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« on: June 28, 2005, 10:56:30 am »
A song that is played a bit on the show, called "Crazy Bus", is a political metaphor for the current state America. I'll explain the lyrics:
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Crazy bus, crazy bus
Riding on the crazy bus
Riding up, riding down,
Driven by a funny clown.

(This is a metaphor for our life, we live life constantly driving up and down driven by a crazy clown, which is a metaphor for George Bush /Bill Clinton leading the country)

Wacky, goony, goofy, spoony,
High as a plane or a balloon-y.

(This is a metaphor telling us about the on-going drug problem in America)

Crazy bus, come ride with us
As we ride, ride, ride, ride, ride, ride.

(This is the government forcing us to 'ride' with them')

It's a crazy bus, but not a schmazy bus.

(It's a crazy country, but one with a steady economy)

Don't make a fuss, just come with us.

(This explains how the government forces us to follow them in their way of thinking without protesting)

Slappy, sloopy, gloppy, gloopy
Happy-happy, hoopy-hoopy
Dopey, doofy, screwy, blue-y
Gooey, chewy, fooey, dewey
Absolutely bus-a-looey

(This is basically a hallucination metaphor in which the government is leading us falsely under lies or hallucinations of a better future - e.g. free Iraq, etc)

Crazy, lazy, crazy, crazy bus.

(This is a summary of all previous comments)

A flat tire is no problem
Because it's only flat on the bottom.

(This is a reference to the corrupt politicians, meaning that they made bad choices, but it's okay because the past is behind them)

A flat tire is no problem
Because it's only flat on the bottom.

(See above)

So let's go!
Let's go!
Let's GOOOOOO!

(The government is telling us to get a move on and to follow them)

Wacky, goony, goofy, spoony,
High as a plane or a balloon-y.
Crazy bus, come ride with us
As we ride, ride, ride, ride, ride, ride.
It's a crazy bus, but not a schmazy bus.
Don't make a fuss, just come with us.

(These lyrics have been examined)

Slappy, sloopy, gloppy, gloopy
Happy-happy, hoopy-hoopy
Dopey, doffy, screwy, blue-y
Gooey, chewy, fooey, dewey
Absolutely bus-a-looey

(This is saying, we the people are happy we are stupid. In other words, ignorance is bliss)

Crazy, lazy, crazy, crazy bus
Crazy
Bus
Crazy!

(This is summing up that the American people are ignorant!)





Alright, so this isn't a totally serious topic. :p

If any of you want to song, PM me! :p





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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2005, 11:20:13 am »
You Are Retarded, I mean, who wastes there time making nonsensical posts of this length?

WHO?

oh...me...riiight

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2005, 11:24:35 am »
*blinks*


 ':shock:'


as many times as I've heard that "song" I've never thought of it as more than random goofiness, which I certainly approve of.

Is it possible you may be overthinking this just a tad?
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2005, 12:53:39 pm »
You would make a good English major.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2005, 01:20:43 pm »
Quote (Kouga @ June 28 2005, 2:20 pm)
You Are Retarded, I mean, who wastes there time making nonsensical posts of this length?

WHO?

oh...me...riiight

Actually, I'm not retarded. Sorry. ):

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2005, 03:20:23 pm »
Its Ok, maybe next time.

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2005, 03:21:17 pm »
I concur with Arbutus. Perhaps Philosophy would also be a choice.

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2005, 03:30:30 pm »
Quote (kaisilverfire @ June 28 2005, 6:21 pm)
I concur with Arbutus. Perhaps Philosophy would also be a choice.

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2005, 08:24:45 pm »
There goes Arthur off my toons-to-watch list!  '<img'>

Reminds me of how ppl though the characters in The Magic Round-about were all on drugs! Also said that about Mr. Benn.

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2005, 10:32:28 am »
It only has underlying meaning if you have the mindset for it, like almost every other cartoon anyone has said had subliminal messages in it. Children don't care. It's a silly song with lots of different words and sounds that they should be learning to say anyway. So it's good for them to sing it. They're thinking about a crazy bus, not the government.

Unless the author of this song actually says so, I'm going to have to say that I don't think he or she had any intention of putting subliminal messages into it.




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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2005, 11:36:50 am »
**flails wildly for no reason**

(in her best "old hippy" voice) The Government is trying to control us, man.  We must fight the power!

On a more serious note.  Kinda reminds me of the Josie and the Pussycats movie.  I hated the movie, but the idea that the Gov is trying to control us through boy bands is pretty funny.




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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2005, 07:10:58 pm »
[imitation] hey, guys, check this out! Puff the Magic Dragon is really about drugs! [/imitation]

this analysis is flawed and inconsistant on nearly every point [/being a big meany] '<img'>

Serisouly, though, find an thesis and support it with observations and well thought out analogies/metaphores, not "lazy, crazy means americans are ignorant"

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2005, 08:34:22 pm »
Well... It is true that even some kid's book writers use simple concepts to comment on grandscale social problems.  Dr. Seuss is a great example of one such writer (Seuss on Political Standstill. Seuss on war, etc.).  And it could be argued that the creators of Arthur are similar since their Maple Syrup episode was pulled for making a vague mention of same-sex couples.

But then again, you could just be over-analyzing this one.  Like Bob Dylan (allegedly?) said when people finally asked him what he's lyrics were representative of:
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"I was just trying to rhyme, man."

The same might be true of the Crazy Bus song.  Some kids writers include social commentary, but the great majority are just trying to get by any way they can.

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2005, 08:46:39 pm »
you depress me greatly  ':cry:'

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2005, 04:51:18 am »
That's not subliminal, satirical, or even allegorical maybe, but not subliminal....
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2005, 08:09:12 am »
Quote (Terastas @ June 29 2005, 11:34 pm)
Well... It is true that even some kid's book writers use simple concepts to comment on grandscale social problems.  Dr. Seuss is a great example of one such writer (Seuss on Political Standstill. Seuss on war, etc.).  And it could be argued that the creators of Arthur are similar since their Maple Syrup episode was pulled for making a vague mention of same-sex couples.

But then again, you could just be over-analyzing this one.  Like Bob Dylan (allegedly?) said when people finally asked him what he's lyrics were representative of:
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"I was just trying to rhyme, man."

The same might be true of the Crazy Bus song.  Some kids writers include social commentary, but the great majority are just trying to get by any way they can.

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2005, 10:14:35 am »
I don't think this is supposed to be taken serious... unless it's in an English class.

The Old Man and the Sea was about God and life and that human efforts mean nothing. I think god was a shark or somesuch nonsense. We can never just -have- a story, we must pick to to death with meaning that may not have existed within it from conception! *Huff*

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2005, 11:12:59 am »
Ignoreing the fact that looking at te song like that may have been simply for fun for just a moment... '<img'>

My question is, what would be the point of puting a subliminal message in a song on a show with a target audiance of people who won't pick up on it? '<img'>

It's supposed to be for kids, no? I submit that's it's just for fun.

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2005, 02:09:37 pm »
I can't belive I read this........


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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2005, 07:43:20 pm »
Hmm..... Well, some of it is  abit of a stretch, but there are some intriguing observations. Deep.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2005, 10:58:42 am »
Nice observations, Taren. I completely agree with you. It's very clever and subtle, the way good children's work is supposed to be. I don't think it's a stretch at all, and when you read the lyrics, and you just think of America/Britian, it's falls perfectly overtop.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2005, 11:19:01 am »
I was channel surfing one morning, and on Arthur... they were doing a spoof on the stock market.  Instead of cash, they were using socks or something like that.

Then there was this frog with a huge cigar and a stovetop hat (your stereotypical capitalist in many cartoons) and he was trying to get the Arthur's sister to trade in her dog to pay off her debts.  It was crazy.

Yeah, that show has lots of hidden messages.  but name a cartoon  show that DOESN'T.  nobody can, because there are many hidden socio-political refrences/messages in children's cartoons.

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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2005, 06:03:56 pm »
Quote (Xiongmao Simba @ June 28 2005, 11:24 pm)
Reminds me of how ppl though the characters in The Magic Round-about were all on drugs! Also said that about Mr. Benn.

Wait.. They werent? Well now I'm even more worried. ':p' '<img'>

And actually this gave me a good laugh. Its not a very serious analysis and flaws could be found in it if someone wanted to, but why would they want to? Its just a bit of fun after all.

Besides, it could be true. The American Government does actually brainwash its children through TV far more than tou might realise, as one relativly new to your fair country I have to say that some of the stuff on Nickelodeon or even some of the little advert slides thats are shown before movies at most cinemas still scare the crap outta me. O_o

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2005, 09:23:20 am »
Yea... i  can see what you are saying about that song but more than likely its coincidence. As for me, if I want to jam to anti government and anti corprate tunes, i just play 'Animals' from Pink Floyd. Every song is pitted to the coruption of the corrupt corprate world.

Pigs on the wing(representing false tratys of respect, teamwork and companionship between corprate employers and employees alike which then leads up to the mood of 'dogs''<img'> Dogs(representing backstabbers in the corprate world. then depicting a life wasted from backstabbing and crawling up the corpreate ladder, only to fall with not one person to care about you when you are gone)
Pigs(representing Corprate bosses and those in charge, who greedily grab up money and step on others to achive thier spots on the corprate ladder) Sheep(the lower end. The ones used ans tools by higher-ups. The laborors or lower corprate end) pigs on the wing pt. 2 (the innocence and realization. this song helps equal out the anti- vibes of the album.

Well this is my favorite album in the world, so excuse me for the long post. But my friend Emily did an essay about homosexuality in childrens cartoons and one of her topics was the Arthur offshoot, 'Postcards for Buster' not sure where she went with it from there. i didn't get a chance to read her final copy. But anyway...i belive there are some subliminal messages hidden in cartoons. And quite possibly, the crazy bus song was attended for messageing, but its still to vauge of a song to deside for sure.
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2005, 05:12:34 pm »
i totally get what you are saying, i mean, it makes sense and all, but it was all accidental.....  my aunt has a book on the dude who wrote arthur  and its all based on his childhood (i could go into oober great details on each individual characters, but ill spare you)
but creepy nonetheless-
i've never actually looked that close at arthur, never had the time-
seriously, thats wicked awesome how you thought all that up, though, so more power to ya, man!!!!!

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