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Maybe I should elaborate on why I asked that.

Through the cliques and groups I've moved through there has always been a small percent of people who tries to make the best personification, not just of themselves, but compared to everyone else. My friend for instance berates humans for treating wolves and dogs so badly and writes stories where Anubis, the Egyptian god of the after life (I believe) is looked down on by everyone; where in reality the myths clearly define him as a person NOT TO BE MESSED WITH. Anyway, he tries to personify himself pridefully as a wolf, and acts surprised and jealous when he remembers that my TOTEM SPIRIT, much like my step-father's, is a wolf and I neither act with nobility, or superiority against anyone against me.

He acts all high-and-mighty trying to put his pride before everyone else, and I think it's selfish and he's insecure about what he really is.
There's nothing WRONG trying to be LIKE a wolf, but I feel like he needs to accept that wolves also have down-falls... The only term I know how to describe this as is; god-modding or being Mary or Gary-sues.

Similarly when people mix together animals I think that they are trying to do the same thing by covering up downfalls with another animals ups (oh, dear. Furry now. XD And this is NOT A HASH ON EVERYONE WITH SPLICED CHARACTERS, I've met you people and this is COMPLETELY WRONG, but it's what I thought). I'd still rather have one animal at a time, or have multiple Fursona's. I don't want to put myself out and make myself seem like someone that I'm already not, which is why I want to take SUGGESTIONS.
I suppose whatever gets suggested over and over again will be what I am? XD

Aside from what I thought before; I've talked with the people who have spliced characters, and they're nothing like my friend.
Even so I don't want to splice fursona's.

Furries grew out the science fiction fandom over interest in fictional  aliens that have both human  and animal characteristics.

Maybe some of them did, but as a general statement I'd disagree.  While you might be able to point to the science fiction fandom as to where the term originated ( I couldn't say.) But to say that the furry fandom grew from that is a -massive- overstatement. For example, I myself have had an big interest in anthropomorphic animals pretty much since I can remember which has absolutely nothing to do with science fiction. I was essentially furry just not in name because I haven't addoted the term. And if anything, my love for anthros was fostered by growing up playing with plush animals and watching cartoons and animated films which predominantly include anthropomorphic animals. I suspect this is closer to how it is for most who later come to identify as furry. And it's from people finding they have a common interest in anrthos from which the fandom grew, and continues to grow.


As for split fursonas, I suspect it largely varies from person to person. But I also suspect that there is some level of desire to be unique and not, for example, just another fox. (Though foxes are freaking awesome, so I don't have a problem with being another fox.)

Furries grew out the science fiction fandom over interest in fictional  aliens that have both human  and animal characteristics.

Maybe some of them did, but as a general statement I'd disagree.  While you might be able to point to the science fiction fandom as to where the term originated ( I couldn't say.) But to say that the furry fandom grew from that is a -massive- overstatement. For example, I myself have had an big interest in anthropomorphic animals pretty much since I can remember which has absolutely nothing to do with science fiction. I was essentially furry just not in name because I haven't addoted the term. And if anything, my love for anthros was fostered by growing up playing with plush animals and watching cartoons and animated films which predominantly include anthropomorphic animals. I suspect this is closer to how it is for most who later come to identify as furry. And it's from people finding they have a common interest in anrthos from which the fandom grew, and continues to grow.


As for split fursonas, I suspect it largely varies from person to person. But I also suspect that there is some level of desire to be unique and not, for example, just another fox. (Though foxes are freaking awesome, so I don't have a problem with being another fox.)

Over the last few months I been looking  over various accounts and  timelines in order to consolidate them for a possible material for a furry panel at a multi genre cons. . I noted a common thread that runs  in early furry  fandom in the 1980's  especially at room parties and events at various SF coon notable World Con.  In fact what I been reading  a lot activity in early fandom , pre-confurence ,  history occur at room parties at comicon and various SF cons.

In fact what I been reading  a lot activity in early fandom , pre-confurence ,  history occur at room parties at comicon and various SF cons.

That might be true, but that still does not validate your statement that the fandom grew over "interest in fictional aliens". Again, you seem to be talking about the origins of the term, which is cool and all, but that's only a small part of the story of where the furry fandom came from. It'd be like claiming that the Star Trek fandom grew out of some group using the term "Trekkie", while ignoring the far greater impact of people being fans of the show.

In fact what I been reading  a lot activity in early fandom , pre-confurence ,  history occur at room parties at comicon and various SF cons.

That might be true, but that still does not validate your statement that the fandom grew over "interest in fictional aliens". Again, you seem to be talking about the origins of the term, which is cool and all, but that's only a small part of the story of where the furry fandom came from. It'd be like claiming that the Star Trek fandom grew out of some group using the term "Trekkie", while ignoring the far greater impact of people being fans of the show.

What I am referring to the the origin  of the organized fandom taht became furry. There were plenty of proto furry influences but the fandom seem to organized themselves  around fantasy  and science fiction the move on from there . for example the work or  Mark Merlino and Rod O'Riley  in the early days.

some quotes
"By 1981, interest in a Funny Animal Fandom had grown significantly at Science Fiction conventions, as demonstrated by the following art created by Ken Fletcher at the 1981 Denvention (World Science Fiction Convention.)

from: A Historical And Cultural Explanation Of Furry Fandom
http://spectralshadows.livejournal.com/46979.html
also

A Chronology of Furry Fandom
http://web.archive.org/web/20110711055142/http://yarf.furry.com/chronology.html

I am not denying people with furry anthropomorphic interest exist but is did not become a focal point until the in 80's and SF room parties had played a part along with early magazines.

I am not denying people with furry anthropomorphic interest exist but is did not become a focal point until the in 80's and SF room parties had played a part along with early magazines.

Did not become a focal point? Isn't interest in anthropomorphic animals a prerequisite of a fandom based on interest in anthropomorphic animals? Again, you are talking about where the term came from and the first groups that organized using the term. It's an interesting bit of furry history perhaps, but to say furries grew from that is greatly overstating things. Plus, I don't see where it's particularly relevant to this thread.

The debate on the history of the furry fandom and it's origins can better be started in a seperate thread.

The debate on the history of the furry fandom and it's origins can better be started in a seperate thread.

But that's not what we have here anyway. What we have here is a disagreement on a statement used. To try to start a new thread from that destroys the context and just doesn't work. However, if Action feels he has more to say about it, I'd be happy to continue the conversation by Personal Message.

The debate on the history of the furry fandom and it's origins can better be started in a seperate thread.

But that's not what we have here anyway. What we have here is a disagreement on a statement used. To try to start a new thread from that destroys the context and just doesn't work. However, if Action feels he has more to say about it, I'd be happy to continue the conversation by Personal Message.

I think we are getting off track but  the issue is not a state at all but history, we should have a new thread  and I can add other  issues and observation on furry history.

The debate on the history of the furry fandom and it's origins can better be started in a seperate thread.

But that's not what we have here anyway. What we have here is a disagreement on a statement used. To try to start a new thread from that destroys the context and just doesn't work. However, if Action feels he has more to say about it, I'd be happy to continue the conversation by Personal Message.

The point I am trying to make, Vararam, is that I don't want to see Leeseetsa/Kay's thread here derailed into just a "furry fandom history" thread only. Talking about ONLY the history/origins of the fandom is not what the ENTIRE thread is about. There are other questions and issues which I'm sure Kay would like people to help with.

Hey glad she is moving passed her bad experiance. I know most of these were answered already but here we go. No you dont have to have a fursuit to con, yes really anything can be a "fursuit" if that is what you define it as. (the example costume sounds cool by the way, kinda bohemian-rhapsody, but I digress.)  Most furries I have met are pretty cool, they arent going to tell someone they cant join the fandom, so i dont really think you can be a poser...Some people make spliced characters because they appreciate the traits from multiple animals, some just think its cool. You cant really be too powerfull as a imagined character in my opinion. And no you are not beiing annoying. You are curious, and you are getting answers. I applaud your efforts.