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What's it like to be a Mod/Admin?
« on: January 10, 2006, 10:37:02 am »
<font color='#EEEEEE'>I've been a mod since last May. I've been a member here at Furtopia for over a year. As a mod, AND a member, there are some things I would like to address.

First, I'll tell you what it's like to mod. 1) We don't get paid for this, and we don't get benefits. So if you think that we do this as a service to our friends here to protect our forum, DING, you got it right. It's hard, because as well as watching the behavior of others, I have to watch my own, as I must be a role model to new members. Older members also have this role. Also, we are accountable for our own behaviors, just like you, and WS and Kada hold us at a higher standard because we are examples. I don't always feel I set the highest of examples, but I'd like to point out a few things.

If I have ever edited a post, or deleted, or moved something of yours, I sent you a PM to let you know, because I care to discuss with you the situation. I ALWAYS thank you for your cooperation. This is because I have consideration for my peers. This is MY free time, and really, I could just delete something I didn't think was appropriate. But I don't, because I respect my peers.

If I have ever warned you for doing something, again, whether it be on IRC or on the forums, I THANK YOU, because I would think that common courtesy would have you be as courteous to me, as I am to you.  I warn you ahead of time, and send you a copy of the rules page, so you know, and I know, that YOU are accountable for your further actions.

The mods here work as a team. They are MEMBERS as well. We are all human, and we don't change into like, hard ab'd (trust me on this) super furries with the intent to ban. We don't post a thread to ban. We post a thread of one's behavior. Often enough, this thread is progressive over months (depending on the member's behavior) and eventually, someone calls a vote to ban, in which all the staff makes a suggestion of yes and why, or no and why.  This is our system. No one person decides, unless someone is obviously trolling, at which time, the admins place a ban.

You can have any of those little x's under your name or a ban evaluated. Yes, if your behavior has improved, and you've made amends, those little blemishes can go away, however.....if the behavior continues, you most likely have a thread and a ban vote started.

Yes, it is hard for me to tell my friends at times, that they have done something wrong. It's rough on me, coz usually I am the one who tells them. NO they don't get benefits from being my friend. You can ask any of my close friends that.

On that note, I'll close this. This thread itself will be locked, but feel more than welcome to post your concerns, replies, and questions to me. On closing, I love this place. I have a lot of close friends here, enough to consider them my family. Would you not protect your friends?  Please consider this, instead of bringing down the moral of our group.</font>
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2006, 04:31:36 pm »
I think that was very well put, Peaches.

I have unlocked it as you requested for responses.

Please be respectful of others as you post your responses.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2006, 04:50:27 pm »
I've been a member here for quite some time now and have never had any probs with mods or other members I come here to get away from the crap in my life so why start it here.
For the few members that have probs with mods here ,thay should go to some of the forums I've been to you so boo to the mods on those forums and you get banned .
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2006, 04:51:13 pm »
I have only been a member for about a week but I think this forum is very well maintained!
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2006, 04:51:45 pm »
::nods:: I think the staff is doing a great job. Furtopia is a very tight knit community, and you guys keep it that way. When someone breaks the rules and a moderator has to correct the person, some people will take offense to it, even if they are 100% wrong. You are just doing your job -- People shouldn't take things so personal.

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2006, 04:56:37 pm »
Moderating such a large forum is not easy but it's worth it. I've seen so many places go to hell because of lack of moderation. I wouldn't want to see that happen to furtopia.

We really aren't that strict, we make sure everyone fallows the rules, the majority of members don't need us to remind them of the rules but some just seem to not listen or care.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2006, 05:14:24 pm »
Excellent post, Peaches.  '<img'>  *gives you a hug*

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All I'm going to say is this: The staff here at Furtopia is doing the best possible job they can with the resources and time that they have to them. They can do no more other than that. To ask them to do more would be to seek perfection from them and from Furtopia as a whole. In my book, nothing's perfect and nothing ever will be. The staff is not perfect and neither is Furtopia.  Perfectionism does not exist. Those who seek perfectionism are on a foolish idealistic crusade and you will never get what you seek.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2006, 06:30:47 pm »
Every Mod and Staffer here does what we do for one reason and one reason only- to bring to you the members the best forum on the internet that we possibly can. Not everyone is or will be happy with our decisions, but they are done with the good of the whole in mind and not to make any one individual (or even ourselves) happy.

Ever wonder why you don't see many posts from the mods/staff except when we PM someone or correct them on the forums?

 I, like most of the mods/staff, spend at least 3 hours or more everyday on Furtopia, yet many days I never get to make a single post. Why? I and the others are spending our time reviewing threads, following up on any reported problems, and reporting anything we see or do so that the rest of the mods/staff can review them. Add to that checking on problems members are having with services and that doesn't leave much time for participation. It's not that we don't want to be more active, it's that we have so much that we are doing behind the scenes that it doesn't leave much time.

We really do log and review each and every incident on the forums, no matter how minor. Every mod/staffer gives thier opinion on the action taken (if any) and how the mod/staffer involved conducted themselves. If we feel that something was done that shouldn't, or that a member was chastised wrongly an apology is sent and the action noted. This serves two purposes- it provides a peer review and it prevents any one mod/staffer from picking on somefur unjustly.

Many times when something goes on like what has transpired in the last few days rumors go around blaming things on this mod or that staffer, and the rumors are wrong in most cases. You the members never know this, as we go back to doing our duties and ignore what is being said and posted about us. It's our jobs, we volunteer to do this and it takes a thick hide to continue on when you're accused of something you can't defend yourself on.

We hear the rumors- sometimes they are sent by a concerned fur, other times when someone wants you to see what they wrote. Right now there are rumors going around here and elsewhere blaming two of our mods/staff for recent events, and as with most rumors they are false. You've yet to hear those being accused to deny them, and you probably won't, but they are still false non the less.

Why? Because the actions they are being blamed for were done by me. When more than one mod/staff is on the forums what sometimes happens is that both will take action over the issue without knowing the other has done so.

In one recent case the mod in question contacted the member so they could correct the problem before one of us that can change it found out. Now, thier name is being smeared for trying to help a fur stay out of trouble. What a way to say thanks...

When somefur is promoted to mod/staff and quits chatting with you or answering your threads as often as they used to it doesn't mean that the furson has changed or become powerhungery. It mearly means that they are overwhelmed with thier new responsibilties and are much busier than you would believe.

When they have to do thier job and correct you, it doesn't mean they no longer like you. In most cases it means just the opposite, as we are often harder on our furiends than we are on others. Becoming a mod/staffer doesn't make you any different than you were before except that you now have a resposibility to the others for your actions.

I truely mean it when I say that no other forum I've been on is as well behaved as this one- and that's because of you the members, not us the mods/staff. I'm proud to be a staffer here and I'm proud to serve with each and every one of the other mods and staffers who share the job of keeping this place safe.

If I have ever had to send you a PM for something, or if I ever have to in the future, that doesn't change how I feel about you. This is my job, but you, each one of you, are my furiends and the reason why we do what we do  '<img'>
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2006, 07:45:49 pm »
I've only been here for a little under a year.  In that time, I've found Furtopia to be a fantastic forum.  I've experienced very little of the immature stupidity that I disliked in all of the other places I have frequented on the net; honestly, what more could one ask for on a internet forum?

Most of all, I see furtopia as something *more* than a simple internet forum.  That is, a community of people whom I respect...some of whom I've met and interacted with face to face and can most definately call 'friends'.  I think this is alone stands as a testament to the fantastic job the mods are doing, and that is really what furry is all about.

So far, I've seen no one banned that I didn't expect to *be* banned for some reason or another.  For those who aren't obvious trolls (naming no one in particular), you can tell in the way they post, the hostility or sarcasm in the way they joke and how they react with their peers.

To such anti-authoritarians, I say simply: pick your fights.  As with anything in life, you have to pick the appropriate time and manner with which to disagree with the management.  The furtopia mods have only your best interest at heart.  Being a rebel (who obeys no-one) just to *be* a rebel will only annoy others and will eventually get you fired.

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2006, 08:05:16 pm »
Quote (Far_Raptor @ Jan. 10 2006, 9:45 pm)
Being a rebel (who obeys no-one) just to *be* a rebel will only annoy others and will eventually get you fired.

Very well said, Far. (:

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2006, 09:54:37 pm »
Thank you Kada.

I also wanted to add here.

FURTOPIA is a FREE SITE.

Free hosting, free forums, free chat, free all kindsa other stuff.

It is run on a PRIVATE SERVER. That means the OWNERS of the SERVER say what goes on here. We play by THOSE RULES.

If you don't like the rules, move on and try and find another site that offers as much, and is as well protected.

Everything we do here is progressive. We are constantly moving to bigger better things, always updating, always looking for a way to make our community better. Why? Because we care. Because we love the fandom, and we aren't elitists to say who does or doesn't belong. We don't charge for services, and each new member is greeted with a pounce helmet, and a flak jacket.

Furtopia has been here since, what? 2002? Yeah, and it's THRIVING.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2006, 10:52:30 am »
I've been on here for about two years. I think all the mods/staff do a wonderful job. People who blame the saff when they get caught are everywhere they're just mad becuase they got caught.  If ya'll ever need to correct me I'll still love ya and furtopia.

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2006, 11:31:22 am »
As the others said its not an easy job, many of us are up late taking care of alot of things. And if we do our job right youll never know a troll hit at 3 am or that the forums went down to a mail spammer even for a few mins.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2006, 04:34:00 pm »
Lots of <3 for Furtopia!

This is, honestly, one of the most mature forums I've ever been on. Everyone here are basically friends XD

And Peaches is right. To those who complain: This all is FREE. You don't have to pay a single cent, so if you don't like it, simply go somewhere else and stop complaining.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2006, 08:22:14 pm »
I've been here since....huh....a while back, and I don't think i've found a friendlier forum. You are all so accepting and nice! (with a few execptions^^)  
You mods are doing a super job, heh, without you, Furtopia wouldn't exist.
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2006, 02:44:35 pm »
I'm going to say something here that is a little different than most.

WS and I created Furtopia. WE pay all the bills for it so this IS considered our home.

Most of the members I have had experience with not following our rules since the beginning are under 21 and still living at home. I am quite sure they are not allowed to talk or act the way they did here because it was against their PARENTS rules. When someone goes to a friends house they have to follow the rules of THAT house.

Well, I am a mom and grandmother. And that is the way I run it. I expect everyone that comes to OUR home, to respect us and our rules, which 99% of the members do.

And what happens when a guest doesn't follow the rules of the house? They are asked to leave. Now we don't ask members who are acting up to leave immediately. We believe in giving them a chance to change and respect us and our rules. If they can't, then yes, they are asked to leave and if they continue their disregard for OUR home, then they are banned from ever coming back.

I'm sure that is the same in many homes in RL. I know they were in mine when my son was growing up and had friends over.

So, if members want to think about what they are doing, realize, this is OUR (members included) home and our rules MUST be respected and followed, whether they agree with them or not.

Now, for the mods and staff, this home has grown very large in the past 3, going on 4 years, now and we have many 'guests' so to speak and as I stated earlier, 99% of them follow our rules without problems or question. We had to bring in 'help' to help with our ever growing home duties because we can't do everything any more like when Furtopia was first started.

The ones that don't like are rules are more than welcome to leave and go elsewhere more to their liking but nothing is going to change the way WS, I, staff and mods are going to run this place. It is OURS AND the members that truly love being here.

So, throwing little fits because one doesn't like our rules, well, we HAVE the right to show them the door.

When mods/staff/us are not available we have quite a few members that keep an eye on the place for us. Even though they don't have a title by their name, they have just as much right to correct someone when they are misbehaving and reporting to us as our mods/staff. I hear this complaint a lot. "Well so-and-so isn't a mod/op so they have no business saying anything to me about the rules." Excuse me? I have had babysitting jobs where kids feel that their babysitters have no rights to reprimand them when they act up. Only their parents can. What do I do? I tell them that their 'parents' aren't here right now and I am. So, they WILL do as they are told. Normally, that is all it takes.

Besides, if the member isn't disregarding our rules, they wouldn't have to be warned by anyone ANYWAY. So, please remember WHO's home this is. IT isn't your own home. So, respect our home, our members and our rules and you will do just fine here.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2006, 11:24:37 am »
Much of what I have to say would just be repeating what my fellow staffers have said above. Instead, I'll go a different route...

If you're someone who enjoys Furtopia, continues to come here, and helps keep this place positive, I want to thank you.
If you're someone I've talked to in the line of my mod position and have understood where I was coming from, Thank you.

In my time here, I've only had direct contact with one person who was obscenely rude when I requested that they follow our rules. To everyone else - THANK YOU!

I myself run a very busy life - full time graduate student with research, teaching and my own learning obligations, as well as the running and maintenance of our household. I take time from all that to volunteer some of my time here because I believe this place is a good place. As the others have said, this is home.

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2006, 05:11:05 am »
I think that it doesn't matter how reasonable you are, you'll still get hostility from time to time; it's part and parcel of being an authority figure :F. I administrate a board with over 3000 members on it and deary me have I gotten some stick sometimes XD. Once, this group of members made a big topic about the staff, editing pictures of wartime Nazi dictators with pictures of the staff. They even wrote a massive rap about us; it was absolutely fantastic XD.

Anyway, for as long as I've been around here (which isn't very long at all, really) I haven't seen any nastyness. This is the nicest, most friendly forum I've ever witnessed and I think the staff here do a commendable job. I think having so many adults here makes it easier, whereas the place I'm at has tons of teenagers, just aching to show their dominance XD. So we get the odd fight now and again.

So, I've had quite a bit of experience as an administrator and, as a result, I respect good admins and mods when I see them. Thank you for doing what you do :3.


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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2006, 12:48:11 pm »
In just a couple of months I've been here I've found that not only do the mods do a great job, but also they are the most capable reliable people I've seen in a long time. I just wanted to sincerely congratulate them and thank them too for their great effort.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2006, 02:08:17 pm »
*Tosses two cents into the jar as well*

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Kada-Ru left something out when she said it was a free server.  That something is "it is a free server that gives you a lot that most others don't."

Okay, let me see what we get:

-  Decent amount of space (some give you that, some give you next to squat)

-  Lots of flexibility when it comes to website rating (a lot of free servers have limit on rating, PG-only, usually.)

-  No limit as to file type (Many disallow certain types of files, I ran into one that disallowed CSS files! ) *

-  No banner ads.  (RARE amongst free servers, Furnation's the only other one I've used that allows that)

- Server-side support, including server side includes and PHP.  (Many webdevelopers I know were amazed Furtopians got this.)

- Decent tech support.  Is it any wonder that the mods here are so busy?


Considering how much we get by being furtopians, it's only natural that they ask we follow some rules.  On that note *Hugs all mods and staff, and double hugs for Kada-Ru and Whiteshepherd*  You all rock!  '<img'>

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2006, 10:39:46 am »
A lot of members find Furtopia either by looking for hosting/forums/IRC chat, but the funny thing is, they don't know about all three! '<img'> I'm surprised at how many in the IRC don't know that Furtopia is mainly a website hosting service, now with over 1500 hosted sites through Furtopia, Artists World, and Creative Paws - G rated site only. We also have Every 1 Host, which isn't widely advertised and is a pay site, mainly for businesses.

And of course, most that are hosted through us don't seem to realize there are the forums and the open IRC chat.

We, mods/staff, do try and get all three to see each other as often as we an.

So, Furtopia isn't just the forums and IRC.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2006, 07:50:32 am »
I've been here not as long as many other furs, so I guess that my oppions are not as valued as many others but I'm gonna write this just the same '<img'>

I believe that this website itself is the light in a tunnel of Eternal Darkness, the Oasis of many a lost fur.  A VERY unusual place, devoid of major spamming or flamming when compaired to most other mainstream forums  When a massive forum can find the ability to have reletively high trust, friendliness and equal understanding can a forum be described as a host to a utopia of tranquility, peace and we, ourseleves.

I also believe that we furs are a peacefull and kind people, the sort that secrets could be trusted with.  I value the thoughts, oppions and views of any furs here than 79% of the people who I engage in conversation with in real life.  I still cannot define what makes a Fur, but I must support it as I feel the growl from within, the primal instincts in conflict with human intellegence and Gothic culture, but enough of me.

I never had much conversation with any of the mods here as I am new of the bat to this forum, I joined in August, I think.  But I stand as a silent witness to how everyfur here can be everything they wish to be an more as long as they treat they fellow fur right.  I cannot stress this enough.

As the old quote goes:

"Treat others as you yourself wish to be treated" - Jesus

All right, it may not be 100% correct, but I can barely remember it as I am not religous, But I canguess that you catch my drift

I believe that through co-operation and trust can we Furtopians keep this website free of all sort of Degenerated Behaviour.

But even saying that, a Degenerate person, is still a person after all.  We MUST bear no grudges to anyfur.  Behaviour can be forgiven through apologies.  I can say that the mods here are far better at that than any other forum's mods.

That.  I can assure you.

I welcome anyfur that disagrees with me or my views, so long as you do so in a pleasent and good-mannered way.

 Slap me on one cheek, verbal or phsyical, and I'll turn the other.

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2006, 11:58:08 am »
Tseng, you write a very nice post. But there's one thing wrong with the following: V

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so I guess that my oppions are not as valued as many others


You're wrong on that part. EVERYONE'S opinions are valued here. Don't sell yourself short. '<img'>  *hugs*
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2006, 12:05:16 pm »
Thanks, I guess that my happiness at visiting here, just swelled up until it busrts - creating my very detailed post.  I guess I forgot to think higher of myself. ^_^


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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2006, 04:32:24 pm »
Kobuk is quite right, Tseng Fox! '<img'>
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