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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2016, 02:25:00 pm »
I paid over $112 for my 6-month dental exam, no x-rays, out-of-pocket.

IIRC, not one GOP vote was cast in favor of ACA. The vote to repeal is only symbolic as it never goes further than Congress.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2016, 10:07:26 am »
Every time we bring up national health care. The industry crys it will cost too much.

If it's such a unprofitable thing, why does the insurance industry make billions
covering people?  They claim covering sick people would be unprofitable.

I had a friend in the 1980's who had to pay $750.00 a month when I was
paying $40.00 a month for major medical.  He had heart trouble, and even at
the price he was paying he was lucky to find a insurance to cover him.

The insurance companies scatter like chickens if there is the slightest
possibilty of risk.. I understand why they don't want to cover those who
will likely get sick, but we as a people should care about those who are
in need of health care they can't afford.

So we spend billions to care for the desperately poor and let the working
poor go wanting. That could make them desperately poor too, and create
more cost overall..
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2016, 07:25:01 am »
The high cost of medical care. Courtesy of Sabrina Online!  :D  :D  :D

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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2016, 08:35:40 am »
Many people get into medicine for the money. It didn't used to be a lucrative business. Doctors
used to work for practically nothing, becase they cared about people more than money.

Law suits and regulations are a big cause of how much a doctor charges to see them. I think
most doctors and people in medicine do care, but are forced to charge more and more by
greedy providers of equipment and pharmaceuticals.

We all pay for greed and unwarranted law suits in higher costs. Then there is the problem of
professionals looking out for each other. Bad doctors and lawyers are often given protection
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2016, 04:06:08 pm »
One reason why my family is poor is because of an accident we could not afford. That Sabrina comic was pretty hilarious but the crisis of medical care in the United States is much worse than you think.

Thank god I live in a state that rolled out the ACA so at least I get Medicaid.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2016, 08:28:49 pm »
Perhaps one of the reasons ACA is failing is that one may stay on the parents' plan until age 26. Yet ACA is counting on the younger age group to pay in as they are the most healthy and least likely to file a claim. Instead, many opt to pay the fine instead as it is the least costly option compared to paying insurance premiums.
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2016, 09:00:05 am »
It seems odd to me. The hospitals and Insurance companies were saying profits were
up after the ACA went into effect.  Now they claim they are loosing money. Seems
fishy to me. 

To get the ACA passed through congress they had to make comprimises that would likely
make it unpopular. Those against it have been trying to kill it ever since. Not because it's
a bad plan. The Gop under Bush had a plan almost the same as the ACA. Allowing the
states to opt out of supporting those who cant afford it, and not forcing the insurance
industry to compete nationally. The ACA has suffered.

The medical and insurance industry is afraid the US will move to a regulated national
health care system. So they will do anything to make it look bad. The ACA has problems
but the GOP doesn't want to fix it. Their big business buddies don't want the US to
have health care price regulations like other countries have.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2016, 12:42:44 pm »
"Millions to lose health insurance under Trump."
http://www.tmj4.com/news/national/trump-plan-would-cause-20-million-americans-to-lose-health-insurance-study-says

I'm not sure how accurate the above article is. I didn't do so well in politics and economics in school.  :-[ But.........it's just "food for thought" for people to read.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2016, 07:40:06 pm »
Many folks had their hours reduced because of ACA. Some were laid off so employers could stay below the threshold to be required to provide insurance to employees. But health insurance is not health care.

A retired clergyman here told us his sister has cancer. The doctor put her on a new treatment but the insurance company wanted to review her medical history before they would approve. Four months later, approval came and the insurance would cover the treatment, but they increased the co-pay. It will now cost her $1300 each three weeks. Fortunately, they have the funds to cover it. Bureaucracy tends to move in such ways.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2016, 08:47:09 pm »
Trump is now doing a flip-flop on Obamacare. Where before during his entire campaign he said he was going to "completely gut" the Affordable Care Act, now it appears Trump is taking a "slight" reversal. At least, partially.  :o
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2016, 11:04:22 am »
Trump is now doing a flip-flop on Obamacare. Where before during his entire campaign he said he was going to "completely gut" the Affordable Care Act, now it appears Trump is taking a "slight" reversal. At least, partially.  :o
http://www.tmj4.com/news/national/trump-says-hes-open-to-keeping-parts-of-affordable-care-act

Perhaps the Trump man is finding out that life as the president isn't as easy as makeing
promises in a campain. It will be interesting to see where it all goes. The people need
the government to give those greedy pharmaceutical companies a kick in the wallet over
the rediculous over charges for generic drugs.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2017, 11:41:21 am »
http://www.tmj4.com/news/national/republicans-obamacare-replacement-bill-the-winners-and-losers

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Republican lawmakers have long vowed that they can make health care more affordable and accessible. Americans will now see if Congress can keep that promise.
 
The House finally revealed its plan to repeal and replace major portions of the Affordable Care Act on Monday. While the bill will likely change a lot before it lands on President Trump's desk, it's already possible to see whom the winners and losers in the individual market and Medicaid could be.
 
Titled the American Health Care Act, the legislation calls for providing refundable tax credits based on a person's age and income. It keeps the Obamacare protections for those with pre-existing conditions, but it allows insurers to levy a 30% surcharge for a year on the premiums of those who let their coverage lapse. It lifts the taxes that Obamacare had imposed on the wealthy, insurers and prescription drug manufacturers. And it loosens or removes several of the health reform law's strict insurance reforms so that carriers can offer a wider -- and some say skimpier -- suite of policies.
 
The bill also eliminates the enhanced federal match for Medicaid expansion starting in 2020 and caps the funding for the entire Medicaid program.
 
The most glaring weakness of the GOP bill is that it will likely leave millions uninsured, experts said. Republican lawmakers have repeatedly skirted that question, but reviews of preliminary drafts by the Congressional Budget Office confirmed the problem, sources said.
 
"With Medicaid reductions and smaller tax credits, this bill would clearly result in fewer people insured than under the ACA," said Larry Levitt, senior vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation. "The House GOP proposal seeks to reduce what the federal government spends on health care, and that inevitably means more people uninsured."
 
Experts remain divided over the impact on the individual market. Some say insurers would flee or jack up their rates if millions of people drop out. Others contend that the Republican bill would stabilize the market and premiums because the reforms would give insurers more flexibility and entice more younger enrollees to sign up for coverage.
 
"If we let the ACA continue on its current trajectory, people really will lose coverage," said Doug Badger, senior fellow at the Galen Institute, a free-market, health-care think tank.
 

Here's who would likely lose under the Republican plan:
 
Lower-income folks could be left uninsured. Obamacare contains many provisions to help poor and lower-income Americans. It expanded Medicaid to cover adults who earn up to $16,400 a year -- some 11 million people in 31 states and the District of Columbia are now insured as a result.
 
Also, those with incomes just under $30,000 receive generous subsidies to lower their premiums, deductibles and out-of-pocket costs on the individual market.
 
The American Health Care Act would reverse much of this. It would end the enhanced federal Medicaid funding for new enrollees starting in 2020. Those already in the program could stay as long as they remain continuously insured. But since up to half have a break in coverage each year, it's likely participation would fall off quickly, said Jocelyn Guyer, managing director at Manatt Health, a consulting firm.
 
But the Republican bill would go beyond just eliminating Medicaid expansion. It would overhaul the whole program, which covers more than 70 million people, by instituting a cap on federal funding based on the number of enrollees in each state. This would limit federal responsibility, shifting that burden to the states. However, since states don't have the money to make up the difference, they would likely either reduce eligibility, curtail benefits or cut provider payments.
 
All this could hurt not only poor adults, but also low-income children, women, senior citizens and the disabled.
 
The legislation also would eliminate the subsidies that reduce deductibles and co-pays for moderate-income policyholders on the individual market. And the tax credits it would provide would not go as far Obamacare's subsidies.
 
Folks making $20,000 a year take the biggest hit at any age under the GOP plan, a recent Kaiser study found. A 27-year-old would get only $2,000, instead of $3,225 under Obamacare, on average, while a 40-year-old would get $3,000 versus nearly $4,150.
 
However, the biggest loser would be a 60-year-old, who would receive only $4,000, instead of nearly $9,900 under Obamacare.
 
Older Americans could have to pay more. Enrollees in their 50s and early 60s benefited from Obamacare because insurers could only charge them three times more than younger policy holders. The bill would widen that band to five-to-one.
 
That would mean that adults ages 60 to 64 would see their annual premiums soar 22%, or nearly $3,200, to nearly $18,000, according to a study by the Milliman actuarial firm on behalf of the AARP Public Policy Institute. Those in their 50s would be hit with a 13% increase, or just over $1,500, and pay an annual premium of $12,800.
 
Also, the GOP bill doesn't provide them as generous tax credits as Obamacare. A 60-year-old making $40,000 would get only $4,000 from the Republican plan, instead of an average subsidy of $6,750 from the Affordable Care Act, according the Kaiser study.
 
The sick could get coverage, but it could be more limited. The GOP plan actually provides stronger protections for those with pre-existing conditions than some prior Republican proposals. Like Obamacare, it requires insurers cover these folks and prevents carriers from charging them more because of their health.
 
But the Republican plan would lift the requirements that insurers cover a certain share of the costs and provide a specific array of benefits -- such as maternity and prescription drug coverage. This change would allow carriers to offer a wider selection of policies, including more with limited benefits. That could make it more costly -- or more difficult -- to find more robust plans that the sick often need.
 
"You won't be able to find a comprehensive plan anymore," said Sabrina Corlette, research professor at Georgetown University's Health Policy Institute.
 

Here's who would likely win:
 
Younger Americans could get cheaper plans. Obamacare was designed so that younger policyholders would help subsidize older ones. That would change under the Republican bill because it would allow insurers to charge older folks more.
 
This means that younger Americans would likely see their annual premiums go down. Enrollees age 20 to 29 would save about $700 a year to $4,000, on average, according to the Milliman study for the AARP.
 
Those under age 30 would also get a refundable tax credit of up to $2,000 to offset the cost of their premiums, as long as their income doesn't exceed $215,000 for an individual. It's more likely that younger folks who are earlier in their careers would fall under this cap.
 
The GOP tax credits would also likely be more generous than Obamacare's subsidies for these folks. For example, a 27-year-old making $40,000 a year would receive $2,000 under the GOP plan, but only gets a $103 subsidy from Obamacare, on average, a Kaiser analysis found.
 
The healthy could buy less expensive policies. Some Americans are not happy that Obamacare has forced them to buy more comprehensive policies with higher premiums that provided what they consider to be needless benefits. The American Health Care Act would once again let insurers sell skimpy plans.
 
But these bare-bones offerings -- which come with lower premiums -- are all some healthier Americans want. Restoring these options would draw in some folks who've opted to remain uninsured and pay a penalty, rather than sign up for too-generous policies, Republican lawmakers argue.
 
Higher-income Americans could pay fewer taxes, get more tax benefits. The legislation would eliminate two taxes that Obamacare levied on the wealthy to help pay for the law. Nearly everyone in the Top 1%, who earn more than $774,000 a year, would enjoy a hefty tax cut, averaging $33,000, according to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Those in the Top 0.1% would get an average tax cut of about $197,000.
 
And the bill would allow folks to contribute more to Health Savings Accounts, which are primarily used by better-off Americans who can afford to sock money away for health care expenses.
 
Also, the Republicans would enable people higher on the income scale to claim the tax credit to help pay their premiums. Under Obamacare, an enrollee who makes more than $47,500 is no longer eligible for a subsidy. The GOP plan would let a policyholder making up to $75,000 claim the full tax credit. The benefit would phase out slowly until the enrollee hits $215,000 in income.
 
Insurance companies could get a big tax break. Obamacare allowed insurance companies to deduct only $500,000 of their executives' pay as a business expense. The GOP bill would repeal that limitation, starting in 2018.
 
Top insurers pay their leaders millions in compensation every year so this provision could mean a nice tax savings for the companies.
 
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2017, 04:16:05 pm »
P.S. - 

Maybe the only people who should be writing up a new health care law, etc. should be the doctors, nurses, patients, and hospitals. It's plainly obvious that Congressional lawmakers don't know what the hell they are doing and know nothing about how health care in America works.  >:( I say, send all of Congress and the White House out to hospitals and clinics around the country to see and talk firsthand to doctors, patients, pharmacists, etc. to see how health care really works and how it affects the American public. Especially see and talk to the patients of every race, gender, and age who have every symptom, disease, and illness imaginable. Once they've seen with their own eyes the long lines in waiting rooms, the emergency room visits, etc. and heard the stories from patients with various medical conditions, then maybe Congress will be a bit wiser and smarter to tackle health care reform in this country. So until they do that, then don't bother pitching to me or anybody else your so-called American Health Care Act.
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2017, 10:11:12 am »
Thanks Kobuk this is a comprehensive layout of Trump Care. I think
it shows it favors the rich over the poor and older people. It appears
there is some incentive for young people to get insurance with the
lower costs, but I have my doubts if many take advantage of it.. When
a person is young and healthy they don't think about getting sick much
less dying.

I often wonder if those GOP congressmen were ever hungry or homeless
out on the street. I think some of them think."I started out with nothing
I did ok." Well people win the lottery too. The world is full of needy
people, and to ignore them invites crime and other huge epenses for
society. People who can't afford to see the doctor wait till they are almost
dead to go to an emergency room. There it costs society a lot more than
a few doctor visits would be.

The GOP and Trump are short sighted people wanting to save their rich
friends some taxes. To put desperately sick people to a hospital stay they
can't pay for, or die. With affordable health care these people can get
the care they need before it becomes very expensive to cure. Preventative
care saves millions in health care. This in turn saves us all money.

This idea of pulling your self up by your own boot straps is a good thing to
teach, since we want people to pay their own way, but to ignore those who
fall through he cracks is a bad idea and costs us all more in the end.

Keeping a crimminal in prison can cost $50,000.00 a year per person, and
their health care by the way. This doesn't include the cost of police, courts,
and other things that go along with the cost of crime. Granted there will
always be those who do bad things. Even Billionaires  have been crimminals,
they often get by with it, but leaving people to their own devices  to survive
just encourages it. Desperate people do bad  things. 

It's up to us all to help our law makers make desisions that benefit us all, not
just the rich, big business, and their friends.

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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2017, 11:28:28 am »
First there was the "Affordable Care Act".

Next, they'll be the "American Health Care Act".

But at the rate Republicans and the White House keep screwing the American people over, maybe it should just be called "No Care Act" because that's certainly what's going to happen.  >:(  >:(  >:(
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2017, 12:53:54 am »
maybe it should just be called "No Care Act" because that's certainly what's going to happen.  >:(  >:(  >:(

I always thought that the "No Care Act" is what we already have considering that you can't buy insurance in some counties and what you can buy is expensive garbage ($350 a month for a 60% coverage hmo is the cheapest of two available options for my county), and then there's the subsidiaries that pay down the cost (if you fall into the niche group that can apply) so you can get insurance... often with around an $8,000 deductible.

So yeah, no care act sounds about right.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2017, 07:15:11 am »
I always thought that the "No Care Act" is what we already have considering that you can't buy insurance in some counties and what you can buy is expensive garbage ($350 a month for a 60% coverage hmo is the cheapest of two available options for my county), and then there's the subsidiaries that pay down the cost (if you fall into the niche group that can apply) so you can get insurance... often with around an $8,000 deductible.

So yeah, no care act sounds about right.
Agreed. I haven't been able to get anything but utter crap for insurance since the ACA was passed. When I had back problems it was actually cheaper to pay cash, I was also seen faster and I received much better care. The only reason I forked over the money for lousy insurance was because I was forced to.
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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2017, 02:40:14 pm »
Read it and weep, folks. 14-26 million Americans could be without health insurance/coverage.  :(
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/cbo-report-health-care/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/cbo-cost-american-health-care-act/index.html

As I previously said, it's called the "No Care Act".  >:(
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« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2017, 01:28:32 am »
I read the article and I doubt anyone would weep over speculative numbers that are seemingly pulled out of the air.

Honestly... predictions of premiums, estimates of eligibility, and it's even stated that most of the predicted 14 million to be uninsured by 2018 will be those who choose not to buy insurance as the mandate will no longer force them to do so. (and where they even get that number is a mystery.)

It all just seems like meaningless numbers.
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« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2017, 08:46:38 am »
There is more to the new plan than just choice of insurance. It's the
subsidies many people need to buy insurance that will give them
the coverage they need. Before the ACA many people had insurance
that was a joke. The ACA required the insurance companies to give
coverage that works, not something that just looks good at a lower
cost.

The GOP talk about choice, but they don't talk about good coverage 
that is affordable. I kind of think many people will end up with insurance
that covers little or has limits that leave them uncovered.

As always the GOP likes to give people a choice in life. It's part of what
makes free enterprise work. That's fine if your buying a clock that doesn't
keep good time because you can't afford a good one, but with health care
you could die or become disabled for life due to not having the care you
need. Free enterprise won't work when you have to cover everyone. Covering
people with health issues works against the whole idea of insurance. To
cover people with health issues requires communal aid not insurance. That's
why the GOP doesn't want it. They don't believe in giving communal aid via
the government. Rich people are notorious for being selfish.

Time will tell. But if the GOP votes to make good care unaffordable to the
working poor, I hope they get what they deserve in 2018. They should be
fixing the ACA so people can afford good care not cutting billions in taxes
for the richest people in America.

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Re: The high cost of medical care.
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2017, 02:13:55 pm »
The new "American Health Care Act" which has been touted and pushed by Trump and Republicans has failed today to pass.  :D President Frump is now going around laying blame for the bill's passage on Democrats and any Republicans who voted No on it, whilst not taking any blame himself, the git.  >:(
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