Thank you, Narei.
Theres also many stories of people in positions like yours that have found ways to make it in the current system through various programs, be it local, state, federal, or charity. While I don't want to derail too much, I've heard many hospitals have people you can talk to similar to financial aid, where they can help people like you find funding for major operations. Perhaps your hospital or one you can get to has something like that as well.
If Obama gets rid of the medicaid/medicare there go a lot of folks without any medical at all. I am on the medicaid program and no, there are no places to get loans for surgeries, unless one has a home etc that they can use for collateral. Being one of the 'poor' and disabled I have no such personal things. Can't afford them. With the state system the way it is one gets ONLY enough to survive on and some times that isn't enough. Yes, there are other programs to help with housing/food/utilities but still one can only survive on the income. I would much rather be able to go back to work and earn 2-4 times the amount I get now on a program.
With the meds I am on, I would not want to live if all my medicaid were considered 'wasteful'. I would be in such severe pain and unable to move that living wouldn't be worth it. I already have enough problems finding meds that medicare WILL pay for. And every month it is getting to be less and less.
Medicare is for the elderly. What will they do without medicare? Most of them have medicare along with another insurance program that THEY pay for to supplement what their own insurance doesn't cover.
You talk about fixing what we have now but what we have now just doesn't work the way it is. The best thing would be to implement this bill and that would take the worry away from EVERYONE whether or not they can afford to go to the doctor or hospital.
From what I have seen with the care in Canada, lets say, the doctor's get paid MORE by giving the preventive and good care that their patients need. Whereas the doctor's in the US get more money by denying some people care. Big difference. Which would you prefer? That your doctor got paid more for doing his job? Or for not doing his job?
The best way to put it I guess is to put yourself in someone else's shoes. Do some research on how people are treated that don't have insurance.
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THAT REMINDS ME: WS's friend wasn't on any insurance. His mother paid for him to have the surgery to remove the tumor but since he didn't have the money to afford the chemo, he passed away from the cancer continuing to spread. The surgeon's thought they had got all of it but without the chemo they couldn't make sure. Sorry for the misinformation.
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Do you think that on a federal level that you wont see the same sort of cut backs in meds and treatments?
With this bill I do see people being able to get the meds they NEED not what is only available on some insurance program that only wants to pay for the cheapest medicine available. This bill will make the meds available no matter what the cost. So, if someone needs a med that is expensive, there won't be a problem getting it. Yes, one can choose a brand name, which usually is more expensive only because it is a brand name, or get a generic which has a lower price but is still the same medicine. I doubt that would change. I always choose the generic if it is available.
When we get visitors from outside the US, I always tell them to make sure they have their own insurance from their country before coming over. If something happened to them while here, they would not be able to afford it.
Do you have any idea what can happen to people without insurance when ill in the US? I'm sure even members here that live in the US have their own horror stories about their health care. It's scary what our system can do to those without insurance. That's why this bill would be such a benefit. No one would have to worry about whether they are going to get the treatment they need or worry about losing their homes that they worked all their lives to achieve. They won't have to worry about being turned down/turned away for treatment if they don't have insurance.
Back in the day when my son was a toddler I had to go to the ER because of severe pain in my right ear and the tube being swollen. I was seen but turned away for treatment since I had no insurance at the time. I went home and the pain reached it's limit when my ear drum burst. That could have been prevented if we had the same type of health care that other countries had.
Pre-existing conditions also wouldn't be a problem. With a lot of insurances these days if you have certain pre-existing problems you can't get insured anyway.
I have been dealing with my condition all my life. Yes, other peoples hard earned money that pay taxes has been paying for my health care and living since 1990. Now, with the bill, I could have had surgery or what ever I needed way back when before my DDD got as bad as it has and would have been self supporting within a couple of years of surgery.
Looking at it this way, which would you prefer? To help pay for someone to get the treatment they need without the bureaucracy that we have now with our insurance companies, that allows that person to get back on their feet and self supporting sooner than later?
Being disabled is NO fun by any means.
On another note, I believe you also said something about taxing junk food and the like. I would also go for it. But that isn't the problem. The problem with most poor people is that healthy food is almost ALWAYS more expensive then the junk foods. If they have limited funds of course they are going to go for the cheaper foods, which usually is the junk. If the pricing of healthy foods were cheaper then the junk foods, I'm sure you would see people eating a lot less of the junk foods. I believe that is what would fix that problem.
I'm not trying to change your mind about how you feel, Narei. I'm only trying to show the other side of the question from one that is on that other side. We all have our points of view through our own personal experiences.
There is a video that we watched awhile back that really opened my eyes to the health care in the US that I didn't even know existed as bad as it was. I was in shock at how some people here had been treated since they didn't have insurance. Ever since then I have been wanting the NHS for the US as well. Not just for me, because I do have some coverage even though it is limited, but for those that have NO insurance at all.
I know the creator of the film is hated by some and loved by others but the film was quite accurate all the way around. The title of the film is "Sicko" and will open a lot of eyes as to our health care system. I felt so fortunate to have the health care that I DO have after watching that film!
I really suggest viewing that film. It opened my eyes in a BIG way.
Ok, I'm done. LOL