Author Topic: George Lucas in Heat (Read 5848 times)

Karazynn · « **on:** April 17, 2005, 05:40:01 pm »

Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING can be better than IV, V & VI (four other Star Wars freaks agree with me). Although I've seen the trailer for number 3, and I must say that the 'new' Darth Vadar is pretty damn hot

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But puppets and Olde Tyme special effects whoops CG and computers anyday.

Golgamoth · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2005, 12:21:14 pm »

awwwww if there was a line at my town id be the first scaring people off with my light saber

'> lol yha or my custom made hansolo costume.....

jar the wookie..

i am the freak of starwars

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Rune · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2005, 11:04:18 am »

Episode I and II weren't THAT bad. Well, maybe because I fell asleep during ep. II and never bothered tp go back and watch it again. Ep. I was alright. I'll still see ep. III when it comes out, not on opening day though. The thought of standing in line with oodles of fans dressed up, and waving paraphernalia around just isn't worth it. ':p'

Finnish Fox · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2005, 02:09:07 pm »

I was going to make a clone trooper helm for ep. 3, but due to the lack of time I will probably go as a jedi.

Happenstance · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2005, 10:30:38 am »

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Am I the only one who thinks that the fight between Yoda and Dooku was, very possibly, the most ridiculous, laughable, and downright idiotic swordfight in modern cinema?

No, Mono. You're not the only one who thought it was ridiculous. I guess they figured that if they turn up the lights bright enough, they could blind people to what was wrong with Ep 2. And in most cases, they were right. While I didn't dislike it as venomously as you (as I was refreshed to see Yoda, the most powerful Jedi at the time, doing something actually JEDI), it was half silly. But I felt that it was neat and somewhat fun to watch, though not satisfying or useful to the movie.

Although Golgamoth made some good points as to why Anakin's mother wasn't brought off Tatooine, they could have at least explained this in the movie. And given that Anakin was something of the Jedi "Golden Boy"(prophesized to bring balance to the force, or some such nonsense), you'd have thought that the council would have wanted to make certain that he WOULDN'T turn to the dark side by making sure his mother was safe, even if they didn't want him to become a Jedi in the first place.

Anyway. Lucas did NOT make these movies because he felt the series needed them, not any more. He made them for the obsessive fans, and to make wads of cash. And to show off his technology, I guess. I definately preferred the old models and puppets, as they have a much more real feeling to them, but I do understand that they're expensive. But that's no excuse to have the movie shot with three to 10 actors in front of a blue(green, whatever) screen.

And, I for one, didn't mind the cheese love scene in Ep 2. Oh, wait... that's probably because in the theatre I was in, the screen went black during the whole thing, and people started talking and such while they tried to fix it so I didn't have to hear the horrible, horrible dialouge.

'> I know, I should feel blessed. And I do. ':p'

Monoceros · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2005, 06:37:46 am »

I was moved to post this poll after watching a fan movie about what the f**k happened to The Phantom Menace, Fall of a Saga. But my opinions, obviously, aren't everybody's. (Mine? Both Episode I and II suck but Attack of the Clones is the only movie I walked out of the theatre actively hating.)

So, what's the furry consensus?

Eww. I guess that italicisation doesn't work with poll headings. ':p'

Knark Kitsune · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2005, 07:18:35 am »

We are in agreement, then. Episode I and II were awful movies and a discrace to a good series.

Burr · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2005, 11:52:07 am »

I liked Episode II. I don't understand why it got bashed as badly as Episode I. I feel like it was just bandwagon hating without any reason. So there was some stupid love crap in it. Get over yourselves. Honestly the original trilogy is just as horrible in similar ways (ewoks = Jar Jar Binks, Han & Leia = Anakin & Amidala), it's just that everyone idealizes those movies since they saw them in their childhood and haven't been jaded by years of sci-fi cliches before watching them.

I can't make nearly as many excuses for Episode I though. I've only seen it twice and don't have much desire to do so ever again.

Episode III is gonna rock though, IMO. It just can't suck.. please?

Midnight Fury · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2005, 12:12:19 pm »

I kinda like Episode 1. It wasn't really that bad. But I do have to say... whatever the Big G has been smokin'... it sure ain't the stuff he used to have in the 70's and 80's! ':p'

Finnish Fox · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2005, 12:53:58 pm »

I think episode I and II are ok movies by themselves as separate sci-fi movies, and it is going to take a really good movie to tie it into the originals. I just watched episode I last night, and realized how bad the acting was. episode II was much better, but I still think the force was not with it as much as it could have been. they should have used juggernauts instead of AT-TEs, but I think the juggernaut will be in III. there are a lot of crafts in the original guide of starwars ships that are in the clone wars, and I hope they use 'em. I have also heard unconfirmed reports that jar-jar will be assassinated!

« **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2005, 12:59:52 pm »

Well, I for one will never give Lucas any respect since he created Jar Jar binks. God, how I wish that thing would die..
episope one sucked, episode two was a bit better, and with any luck episode three will be good. I hope so.
But anyway, I'm more of a Dune and Star Trek man myself, so I'm not exactly biased toward Star Wars, anyway.

Taren · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:14:57 pm »

Jar-Jar Binks ruined it for me.

Darkness Falls · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:43:44 pm »

Hrrmh, Episode I was a bit lame. It was okay as a generic sci-fi movie, but compared to the coolness of IV-VI it was very disappointing. Still hate comedy sidekick characters.

I would say the same thing about Episode II, but for two factors; one, it had the Sand People in (random sreaming angry guys are funny) and two, YODA ROCKS! The moment he pulls out the lightsabre and I realised that he's actually going to fight with it rather than some cheap telekinesis cop-out like I had feared was one of the best moments, for my money, in the whole series. We like the Zen mystic ninja death goblin that is Yoda. Alot.

Umm... [/obsessive geekdom]. Sorry. ':blush:'

D.F.

Monoceros · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2005, 04:14:08 pm »

Jar Jar Binks haters will appreciate a moment from "Fall of a Saga". I'm not going to give the movie's secret away but let's just say that someone from Lucas's past shows up and forces him to rewrite Episode I. Increasingly Lucas has less and less control over his own writing. Finally there comes a moment when Lucas, pouring down the vodka late at night, picks up one of his own typewritten sheets and reads, "JAR JAR BINKS". He looks up toward the heavens and screams NO!!! at the top of his lungs.

Still, Jar Jar Binks was just an irrelevancy. He's not important enough to Episode I to damage it seriously. Episode II is ugly down to the bone, though, because Lucas turns its most important character into a whiny adolescent brat (and then casts a horrible pretty-boy actor to play him. And I've got nothing against pretty boys, by the way, just against untalented ones.)

I didn't watch the original SW movies until I was in my early 20s so I don't think that I'm regarding them through a haze of childhood nostalgia.

Also I thought that Yoda's lightsabre fight made him look like Sonic the Hedgehog - you ought to appreciate that, Burr

'> A friend of mine pointed out to me, by the way, something glaringly obvious and illogical about Yoda's and Dooku's (ugh, what a name) fight scene. I didn't notice it until he pointed it out. I'm wondering if others have caught it. Think about the nature of the Force and think about how Dooku escapes in the end - there's the clues.

CarLOS · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2005, 11:07:57 pm »

Jar-Jar Binks saved that crummy movie ':p'

Shabbernigdo · « **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2005, 12:11:12 am »

imo the best star wars movie is the one with the pod racers just cuz it has the racing part.

Pepper Porcupine · « **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2005, 09:33:39 pm »

I havn't seen episode II yet but I did see episode I and as far as I'm concerned, episode I wasn't anything special, just another sci-fi movie I guess, the only good thing about episode I was the "pod racing", because when I'm watching a star wars movie I'm waiting for cool moments. I.E. Death Star blowing up, luke shooting a storm trooper, Darth Vader telling Luke that he's his father and then chopping his hand off... that kind of thing. And the pod racing was the only thing in episode one that did it for me. Other than that, I might as well have been watching Starship Troopers or Cube 2: Hypercube, at least those movies had some pointless violence, which, in all honesty, I want to see if I'm in the mood to watch and action movie, which is what most sci-fi movies are and "Action" is also the section where you'll find Star Wars movies at Blockbuster.

Om · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2005, 12:27:02 am »

Voted "What was Lucas smoking?"

Agree on the Jar-jar point... if anyone happens to have read the novels, the Gungans are supposed to be a really cool warrior race... and they're not in the movie.

And besides, Anakin being all whiny is just annoying.

Though Mace does have BAMF written on his purple lightsaber... at least that part was well-cast.

-Kai.

Rikimaru · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2005, 05:10:41 pm »

personally i think nobody will rate the more recent ones anywhere near what the old ones were...unless theyre a 7 year old kid and lets face it...kids that age dont appreciate movies as much as older people do so adding jar jar was just a way of drawing in more children to the series because to me, it doesnt seem like the originals were intended for child audiences. thats my own opinion anyway.

i enjoyed episode II, i thought the acting was quite good and just because anakin is going to turn into darth vader doesnt mean that he has to be a hard as nails arnold scwartzanegger (yes i cant spell) kinda guy. would you not complain if you were in his position? (not speaking literally of course lol) the only bad point i found in episode too was overdoing yodas talking backwards...it got to a point when it made yoda sound stupid. which was quickly redeemed by a lush lightsabre duel!

episode I was just lame down to every last detail. i suppose the introduction of a double ended lightsabre was pretty cool, but seeing as it is a prequel the technology should be worse than what is in the older movies. which is something i hold against both of the newer ones. the technology is much smoother and obviously looks superior to the originals which is retarded...theyre supposed to be prequels lol.

is it just me or have i also heard that theyre making 3 sequels too? i think i heard it somewhere...more than likely me just being retarded though.

anyway enough said lol.

Burr · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2005, 05:23:57 pm »

The reasoning behind the technology being better in the prequels is that years of war have destroyed all the wonderful technology of the past. Much like the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome. The same thing happens in Battletech. Most of the Inner Sphere technology is quite inferior to the technology that preceded it during the heydays of the Star League, which is why when the clans (formed of the league's remnants) came back they put on a major smackdown.

Happenstance · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2005, 08:24:31 pm »

There's lots of things I didn't like about those two movies. Episode 1 irritated me more, but it's probably a slightly better movie from the point of view of the series. Both would be alright as stand alone movies... but they're rather poorly written and done in my opinion.

For one, I greatly dislike the massive use of computer graphic technology. It doesn't have the same charm and realism as the old models.

As for Jar Jar, he irritated me immensely, but I do think that he was more or less the way he had to be. It wasn't so much his character as his lines that were insufferable.

Darth Maul was, in my opinion, the WORST villain I've ever seen. We know he's a bad guy, because they told us he was. Other than that, he has no character development whatsoever. Then he dies. I know he's not supposed to be the "main" bad guy, but that was pathetic.

Anikin the boy-hero also bugged me big time. Just because he's supposed to be the pivotal character in the series DOESN'T mean everything has to revolve around him. I can accept the pod racing, though I thought it was entirely too drawn out and overblown. It's the part where he saves the day during the invasion that really irked me.

I think that having Anikin be arrogant and even a bit whiney fit his character for Ep 2, seeing as how he knows how powerful he's supposed to be.

The thing that got me the most was the extremely forced inclusion of C-3PO and R2D2. I'll accept R2 being in Ep 1 as the ship's robot, but mostly just for "fun", not as a serious plot point. And 3PO should have been left out of these two movies all togeather. If they don't have his and R2's memories erased in Ep 3, they just didn't try at all.

Erf. Enough rambling from me.

Finnish Fox · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2005, 08:36:00 pm »

I think they really tried to force some humor into eps 1 and 2. I've seen a lot of stuff for ep 3, it looks ok, and the ARC 170 starfigher and Venator class star destroyers look so awesome.

Hat-Kun · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2005, 04:45:52 pm »

Quote (CarLOS @ Mar. 28 2005, 11:07 pm)

Jar-Jar Binks saved that crummy movie ':p'

Oh you can yiff right off.

CarLOS · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2005, 11:51:25 pm »

Quote (Hat-Kun @ April 01 2005, 1:45 pm)

Quote (CarLOS @ Mar. 28 2005, 11:07 pm)

Jar-Jar Binks saved that crummy movie ':p'

Oh you can yiff right off.

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Coven · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2005, 02:31:29 am »

empire was the best hands down, although nothing beats Jedi's climax and the battle between luke and darth.

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