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Title: Fallout 4
Post by: Loc on June 03, 2015, 10:08:47 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE2BkLqMef4

Official trailer :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: ColonelMustang on June 03, 2015, 03:33:43 pm
So Stupidly Stoked!!!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: The Wise one on June 03, 2015, 06:21:33 pm
The hype is nearly too much for me.  :o  x_x
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on June 03, 2015, 07:05:02 pm
I'm suuuuuuuppppppeerrrrrrrr excited!!!! The graphics oh my gosh just gorgeous especially for next-gen consoles. I wonder what the setting will be this time, but it looks more like Fallout 3 (and a huge mix match of other games in one game)except 10 times better and a different setting.
I really hope it will be done better(don't get me wrong the other Fallouts were good) and the voice acting will be better. I think they should include guns from past Fallouts(only some) as unique weapons, and also keep the weapon making from Fallout 3(that was really good). I'm hoping they'll make one for last gen consoles. I'll make sure to pre-order this one for sure :)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on June 04, 2015, 04:10:49 am
looks really nice, cant wait till it comes out (really liked fallout 3 and nv so pretty excited for fallout 4)

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on June 04, 2015, 05:17:58 am
I was looking at E3s list of consoles they are showing RPGs on, and last gen were included. So this game will most likely be a cross-console game so yay for that. Also link shows that last gen platforms were included, so look for a last gen version possibly.  http://mk02jm307.mapyourshow.com/6_0/exhibitor/exhibitor-details.cfm?ExhID=bet2200
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: T-Yoshi45 on June 05, 2015, 01:26:18 am
Whelp...looks like it's time to invest in a PS4. Can't wait to hit the wasteland once more :orraccoon:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Jackie on June 12, 2015, 04:24:11 pm
I see it, I like it, I want it! ^-^

No word of a lie, fave game series ever!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Doc on June 12, 2015, 09:19:11 pm
Fallout 3 was awesome enough. I saw the trailer with my stepdad and instantly wanted the game. Too bad I don't have an Xbox one.  :( Ah, well. Who cares about the Xbox one anyway? ;)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on June 12, 2015, 11:15:14 pm
You do know that there is a possibility that it will be a cross-gen game? Just like COD Advanced Warfare it was supposed to be only next gen, but ended up getting a last gen counterpart from a secondary development team. I believe that Fallout 4 will be the same possibly, just from Bethesda's secondary team. Also AW's pre-orders was only for next gen then a last gen version came out a week after the next gen was released. So there is still a possibility since gameplay reveal of fallout 4 is June 14, and E3's listing shows last gen consoles for role playing game category. So keep your fingers crossed :).
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on June 15, 2015, 12:01:52 am
I just finished watching the E3 reveal of fallout 4 there is tons of things. To much to type, all I have to say in game graphics looked GREAT! There is armor and gun creation. There is TONS of gun creation and armor creation. Also you can now build your own settlement and have traders come in and have your own caravan build up huge defenses to(it looked pretty good in game all around). Note: this is all from the the E3 live stream. Fallout 4 is coming out this November also the return of Dishonored. Dishonored 2 you will be able to choose to play as Corvo Attono or Emily Kaldwin each with have their own set of powers and equipment. Doom is also making an awesome return(got to see some sweet gameplay of that).

Also all of these games are only for next gen consoles and PC. Also Tod Howard said that this game has been in development for a LONG time he said development started in 2009. The open-world of Fallout 4 is HUGE everything is just amazing(like way bigger than all the other games). Also did I mention you can fly now?(vertibirds and such) they showed some sneak peaks of that. VATS is now is more realistic and now is in a more slow motion like. Combat looked really good too. So yah get Fallout 4 it's gonna be awesome!!!!!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kaiden on June 19, 2015, 02:44:21 pm
Hopefully there's an online version, also I know what character build I'm going for.

Also, hopefully you'll be able to actually choose and be part of a faction, like full time, not part time.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on June 19, 2015, 02:57:45 pm
I don't think that there will be a online version, Tod Howard didn't say anything or give a hint of it happening. Also I'd think that it would ruin it, if it were 4 people or 6 people to a map, I could see how that would work. It's coming  out this November and you can pre-order it now.

About the faction thing they didn't show it,but they gave hints of new factions.  Well just have to play it ourselves to find out about the factions and what it might be like.(I don't think online will ever happen, and if it did it would ruin it just like Elder Scrolls Online. Even the console version is just,meh.)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on June 20, 2015, 06:27:01 am
i hope there is a solo option for the factions. new vegas was kinda a disappointment there, chose the legion, NCR, house, or who ever that smiling robot was, i would have liked a solo option (even tho i mostly agree with the NCR) (there might have been a solo option but i dont remember it)

also im not really a fan of all these large quests/missions. the option to do them is nice, and i would still like them in the game, just that its the end game thing is kinda annoying, would like a free roam like game.

as for multiplayer i would really like it if it was at least a few people. so a co-op like experience, not an mmo experience like in ESO.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Loc on June 20, 2015, 08:04:25 am
(http://i.imgur.com/A1FrAkN.jpg)
Looks like no multiplayer.

Which I am very glad about. Co-ops without a separate mutliplayer campaign aren't often balanced well for solo play, and I don't have that many friends I actually enjoy playing with.  And ones with a separate co-op storyline run the risk of not having a well developed single player line, and I don't want to buy a game and then not be able to play half of it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on June 20, 2015, 09:49:03 am
one way i see it as working is if the other player kidna just took the role as a follower. if the follower player is fine with no back story (they could role play his or her back story tho) then it should work.

this way they only need to focus on one player's story while the other player gets their own.

tho there is the targeting thing which would really need to be changed
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Loc on June 20, 2015, 10:06:42 am
Issue with a follower player is that would be kinda boring and less immersive for that player. A couple of old school RPGs have this system and it is kinda dull for anyone being the follower role - Not to mention the extra work of putting in a second lot of dialogue for each important character to differentiate between which player is being spoken to - it is rather jarring if a character you have never spoken to knows all about you because another player has spoken to them first, but the game has no way of telling the difference between you (again, a problem I've come across before in games). And while yes, in theory someone -could- come up with and roleplay their own backstory, how many people are actually likely to?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on June 20, 2015, 11:44:35 am
 I'm really glad they're keeping it single player. Plus single player it's more of experience by yourself. It's just some unique feeling of excitement exploring alone(if you don't get a follower,personally I don't it's more fun), and that's sometimes why I like it that way.
Other than that, I'm sad to say this probably is the last Fallout. I could be wrong but they put so MUCH effort into this game, it made it seem like this is the grand finale for the Fallout series.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on June 22, 2015, 07:17:09 am
there would be many issues that would need to be worked out and money would most likely be lost on it (the game will still make money tho) even if there are still a few missing things multiplayer would likely improve a few people's game

It's just some unique feeling of excitement exploring alone

Other than that, I'm sad to say this probably is the last Fallout. I could be wrong but they put so MUCH effort into this game, it made it seem like this is the grand finale for the Fallout series.
that is pretty nice, tho it seems like it would really improve the game experience if you could play with someone close

also just in the fallout lore the radioactivity around is dying off which is going to allow people to rebuild, and grow plants again, making it less of a waste land. (unless they make another one take place in the past, or at the same time as this one)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on June 22, 2015, 08:47:48 am
There might be another game(very slim right now but maybe in the future), but it will probably won't be any time soon. I'm still super excited about the game though. :) I think it would be cool to have it take place in the past, or like 500 years after all the other Fallouts.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on August 26, 2015, 02:42:27 am
just watched the E3 gameplay of the game and many of the features in game are amazing.
here are the things i really like about what is added.
(possible spoilers below)

-from what it looks like power armor now as an entrance animation, so you actually feel like the suit is extremely powerful when you step into this large chunk of metal.
-jetpacks for power armor?: one of my favorite things in games is to have a jeppack, i find flying all over the place ridiculous but if its a jumpjet pack then it makes me feel like my character is really powerful (due to the equipment i have and not just my player level)
-buildable settlements: another thing i really like to see in games, no longer will you have to install some mod, or go into G.E.C.k and build a house using all of those annoying directories (most likely will still be able to do that if you want an extremely personalized home) NPCs might actually move into your towen
some buildings you can place:
 -- foundations, walls, roofs, furniture, guardposts, vendors, turrets, powerstations, lights (some can be colored), traps, crops, and most likely much more
-far more advanced weapon mods: unlike fallout nv you can change more than just attachments, by the looks of the E3 trailer you can alter the barrel, grip, receiver, attachments, ect


the only thing that disappoints me about fallout 4 is the lack of co-op. to me having the ability to play a game that you really enjoy(not to mention just that fallout 4 is really well made by the looks of it) with a friend makes the experience far more enjoyable. i get annoyed when ever i get a companion in fallout or skyrim, and they just seem so soulless. having the ability to get another character in game to actually feel human might actually help with the characters who are not human like. iv read online and it seems that quite a bit of people are ok with being a follower of the main character (as long as single player is an option) but that still kinda takes alot of work. i also read in some article that Bethesda actually made a early multiplayer version of fallout 4 just to see if it would fit in well, so maybe there is hope of a later expansion which adds co-op, or that those files are still inside fallout 4's files making it so a moder can easily understand the main files in the game, and how things work, so that a co-op mod might come out sooner.

that is just my view on the co-op thing, i'd like to see it as just an add on to the game that is well made (fallout is known for the single player so of course keep that) for someone like me (being in isolation for most of the time) it would help me have social interaction (talking is nice, but i tend to run out of topics to talk about which just leads to silence), but also just for the fact that it would make gameplay more interesting (working together to take out a raider fortification).
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: DoubleSwee on August 26, 2015, 07:03:36 am
I would by hyped if I was allowed to play fallout

cri
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on August 26, 2015, 09:19:56 am
As Grey posted, yes all the features look great! I watched it live on the YouTube live stream. I was so hyped when it was time for Fallout 4. I think the new features will be great for the game. Co- op I think would've kinda ruined the game, I understand you want a friend to be able to play too. It's the whole idea of being alone, in a vast world. It would've been fun to experiment with that feature though if they made it. November is closing in so I'm excited when the game is finally released. I'm pretty sure they're probably going to make DLC, I'm excited if they do or they don't.( Also I wouldn't mind a co-op option but keeping single player, that's something I always wanted too)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Keitsu on August 27, 2015, 12:02:26 am
As Grey posted, yes all the features look great! I watched it live on the YouTube live stream. I was so hyped when it was time for Fallout 4. I think the new features will be great for the game. Co- op I think would've kinda ruined the game, I understand you want a friend to be able to play too. It's the whole idea of being alone, in a vast world. It would've been fun to experiment with that feature though if they made it. November is closing in so I'm excited when the game is finally released. I'm pretty sure they're probably going to make DLC, I'm excited if they do or they don't.( Also I wouldn't mind a co-op option but keeping single player, that's something I always wanted too)
But people can be alone together :P
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on August 27, 2015, 08:17:26 pm
^ true lol  :P
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on August 28, 2015, 03:42:50 am
Co- op I think would've kinda ruined the game, I understand you want a friend to be able to play too. It's the whole idea of being alone, in a vast world. It would've been fun to experiment with that feature though if they made it. November is closing in so I'm excited when the game is finally released. I'm pretty sure they're probably going to make DLC, I'm excited if they do or they don't.( Also I wouldn't mind a co-op option but keeping single player, that's something I always wanted too)

well if someone doesnt like the co-op feature they could always just play single player, everyone has their own idea of what they like in a game, so it would make the game awesome'er(all ready awesome) for some people, but allowing single player would allow people to play solo if they want(doesnt ruin the game for anyone since the choice is up to them).

i wouldnt really consider fallout that great of a game when it comes to the loneliness factor of a post-apocalyptic world, map is too small, there are too many people in the wastes, the large cities/towns give a sense of rebuilt society, airships, and bombers in the skies, vtols all over the place. the only time i have felt lonely in fallout was the statesmen hotel in fallout3/NV (forgot which one). also dont forget about the followers in the game, they make the game feel a little less lonely but their lack of dialog, commands, personality kind mess with the immersion of the game (of course you can just not get a follower, but they are a feature in the game and could be fixed up a bit)

also the new base building feature kinda gives the feeling of setting up a home and settling down(which is a really nice thing to add so that there is more to the game once you complete most of the missions, and is less of a cliff hanger on what your character's future is after the main story). having other characters who actually seem human (other player(s)) would make that part of the game seem far more developed. also at the point of setting up a settlement where people move in, the whole loneliness factor in the game is almost completely destroyed, your character is becoming the leader of people, setting up trade routs, maybe supplies gatherers, farmers, having people live within your walls helping you keep them together, and possibly more to the town system. having actual people in your town might make it seem a little more like its actually a community and less of this:
*enter store* shopkeeper "welcome" *exit*, *enter store* shopkeeper "hi" *exit*, *enter store* shopkeeper "welcome" *exit*, *enter store* shopkeeper "welcome" *exit*
(in other words soulless characters) having another player might make you pay more attention to your friend and less attention of those simple flaws that happen to be really difficult and time consuming to hide. (also like sciex said you can be alone even if you are in a group, in the town example it would be outside the walls that would feel lonely)

i am still heavily looking forward to the game, just having co-op would add to the experience (i say co-op since i dont believe that pvp would work well in fallout)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Amducious on August 28, 2015, 07:26:27 pm
Yeah that makes more sense now. Actually I'd like to be able to have co-op, to a certain degree. It would help a lot, at times I wish it was added since it would be super fun with another actual person.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on September 19, 2015, 06:19:52 pm
well just noticed another thing that might heavily effect the enjoyment while playing fallout (will still play it tho)

just this morning i noticed that with the whole beginning story with the wife/husband and child thing it kinda completely destroys the ability to role play as a gay character(or at least you were in a strait relationship in the past). fallout 4 seems to be putting more focus into your character's personality, unlike where all the previous fallouts put you into a situation but besides the karma stats your personality is kinda ignored throughout the game leaving more space for your out of game role play.

so what are your opinions based on this? do you think there might be an easy way around this besides rewriting the whole story?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Aryd on January 27, 2016, 07:13:22 am
Well, the games out now. I was one of the ones who pre-ordered, so I haven't been able to put it down as of late.

Anyone wanna talk about the game? I was really hoping that this would be the game where we got a Sing-Along option. Where the lyrics of the song currently being played over the radio would be on the bottom of the screen. Maybe with a little Vault Boy head bouncing from word to word.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Loc on January 27, 2016, 07:20:12 am
xD That would drive me nuts. I already know most of the words and sing along anyway, or turn the radio off and have my own one playing in the background.

It's a great game though :3 Love it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Aryd on January 27, 2016, 07:41:31 am
I'll be honest. I was really scared that they were gonna change the game to much. For example, I was super scared of the whole settlement system. But it turned out that it was really cool! I'm currently trying to reach maximum affinity with Preston Garvey. Also, I've pretty much ditched all the quests in the game. My stepdad got me one of those giant guide books, with the locations of all the collectibles and guides on how to complete the quests and stuff. So I'm currently on a bobblehead and comic hunt.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on January 28, 2016, 01:37:34 am
to me fallout 4 was kinda a disappointment...
i love the new power armor. wished it was harder to maintain though. for ex: exoskeleton can get damaged, adds bonus weight when no armor pieces attached (when armor is equipped on the skeleton it weighs nothing), harder to find skeleton and armor (though allow a method of crafting makeshift skeleton+armor)

i love the weapon modding, wished it was more realistic though. for ex: make high tech scopes not craft able. i hate it when i take 9 aluminum cans, 4 alarm clocks, 4 rolls of duct tape, 5 screws from where ever, 4 silver lockets, 3 microscopes, and 2 telephones. a high tech scope like that would take custom made circuits (a telephone doesnt make sense), and better machining.

with the new weapon modding you could say there are many guns you can use but i would like to see far more variety since this was after fallout NV (i miss having the LMG, M14/m4 carbine?, That Gun, random rifles, specific .50 cal rifles, grenade launchers, the classic fallout sniper rifle ect) also weapon progression really annoys me. the game kinda forces you to go from pipe rifle, to 10mm, to hunting rifle, to combat rifle, to plasma rifle, to rail gun due to the increase of enemy's health

i love the base building but it's got issues too... for ex: i step out of the vault looking for my son and im meant to be a desperate father worried about him... na ill just stop by my house and build some crazy pixel art and the whole story goes at my pace (you can wait a year and everything will be the same, and no quests will have failed) that's one of the problems i saw with the story line in fallout 4. also somehow i take 10 forks, and a tree and turn it into a metal wall... or i take a few plungers and somehow i fabricate a wall made of massive truck tires.

the combat annoys me due to the progression of the weapon types. in fallout 3-NV you could be using the first weapon you found till the end of the game and it would still kill, in fallout 4 it feels like borderlands where you progress up levels to fight harder lever enemies, with the next gun. (i would love to be able to use a pipe rifle i found in the beginning of the game but heavily modified, but at later levels it barely kills) also the enemies have just become bullet sponges when you increase the difficulty, and they dont act any smarter.


*spoiler-----------------spoiler---------------spoiler-------------------spoiler------------*
and the story line just felt far too linear. fallout 3-NV had far more dialog, and the story was much more interesting. i feel that they could have done the same for the common wealth/institute. maybe have more option that choosing one side and having to kill almost all the other factions. also i wished there was a way to convince the institute/Shaun to stop enslaving synths, and instead come out to the common wealth, and help out the minutemen (who i view as the only good faction)

The game was fun for awhile, though for me it didnt last as long as fallout NV (i haven't even played NV's DLCs) to me it feels like they took a large step from the original first person fallout games, and are heading towards a more general FPS audience.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Aryd on March 24, 2016, 01:02:48 pm
Well you know, Bethesda does have plans for a "survival" mode in the game. You can read more about it here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/47cc06/fallout_4_survival_mode_full_overview_extracted/
While it may not change the things you described, it should make the game significantly harder.  :)

In other news, the Automatron DLC came out, and I just spent a good day finishing it. It's really cool in that you can create your robo-buddies from scratch, and pretty much get full control over everything. Plus, if you're too lazy to make your base-game companions like you, I don't think that the robots have affinity, so there's no way your robot will get mad at you and refuse to travel. Also, the DLC adds a few more locations and weapons, which are pretty interesting. Definitely check out the DLC if you want a little more content to the game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: GrayWolf448 on March 25, 2016, 12:05:10 am
that DLC seems pretty awesome. im going to stay away from it(and fallout 4) for now though. (most likely going to wait till survival mode and the mod tools are out though so i can play the game start to finish with all content) didnt play much of the game so hopefully once many new things are out ill be able to play the game for awhile, not getting bored