Post by: Firestorm Six on October 18, 2003, 05:35:03 pm
http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm
if you need power, this super computer should fill the bill ! read some of the specifications, 3.8 GHZ HT processor, , 950 mhz FSB, up to two terabytes of storage, (2000 Gigabytes), up to 16 GB or DDR Ram, etc....
Post by: Sunookitsune on October 18, 2003, 05:44:30 pm
2 terrabytes = 2048 gigabytes
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 18, 2003, 05:59:12 pm
anybody like a wide-screen monitor ? ....how about 92 inches wide ? .... here:
http://www.go-l.com/monitors/grand_canyon/features/index.htm
Post by: Sunookitsune on October 18, 2003, 06:04:01 pm
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 18, 2003, 06:07:16 pm
Post by: WhiteShepherd on October 19, 2003, 02:00:39 am
What they have done there is attached 4 flat screen monitors at the case (inconvenient in realty) and are only using 2 feet to hold them up. Windows automatically will stretch the desktop across any monitors you hook up as a setting (this has been in windows for years). You can easily run up to 6 monitors (yes more than 4 they are doing). All you need to do is add video cards that support multi-monitors (ATI's are great for this).
For example to save some money you can get this same setup. I go to ALDI's and buy 4 of their 19" flat screen at $199 each. Next I go out and buy two ATI Radon video cards (many flavors of Radon design). I spend $219 for a 9800 Pro AGP (refurb) and $99 for a Radon PCI card (we get a PCI because there is only 1 AGP port). Both of these cards support 2 monitors so now our computer supports 4 monitors. Want 6? Just buy another Radon PCI card and 2 more monitors.
So by getting basically EXACT SAME THING a 81" setup you would pay $1,114+tax. Or you can let them super glue your monitors together and pay them $12,499 (or $11,385 for glue!!
. )The multi monitor setup is what I run for maintaining Furtopia. The multi-desktop makes it easier for tracking things. One more good point. They lay out their monitors left to right. For 2 this is OK bit for 4 you can't rally watch more than 2 monitors easily. The best formation is two on top and two bellow. You can check up on another monitor just by a glance of your eyes rather than having to turn away.
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 19, 2003, 02:11:02 am
Post by: Wtcher on October 19, 2003, 03:11:11 am
Now /that/ is a supercomputer unto itself. =)
Post by: Sunookitsune on October 19, 2003, 08:36:32 am
Here's an idea. Get 6 projectors, go in a circular room, and make yourself a 360 degree monitor. Now that would be nice for Flight Simulator.
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 19, 2003, 09:38:13 am
like Darius mentioned, one monitor is plenty, ...especially if its one of high resolution and color. The newer LCD's are getting better, i just bought a new 18 inch LCD, it has a 450:1 contrast ratio , a true "black" screen, high resolution SVGA, and has very wide viewing angle. it has far better contrast, color & resolution than my year old 17 CRT monitor, aswell as no eye strain from radiation. I find it more suitable for my digital graphics & art, though at a price.
I like the ides of a projector for games....(big round room....Imax style theatre like computer monitor....and would be alot cheaper than 17,000 dollars too.
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 19, 2003, 10:17:49 am
My tower case here has 8 cooling fans, computer or manual indervidual fan control, bluestrip lit clearside and the LCD info screen on the front. Its a transcool case.. black steal all round.. all the Audio, USB and Firewire ports are on the top.. it costs $150.00 for the case.
I can run more than one screen, but I don't like the lines of the moniter case joins.. I prefure my ATI TV output and useing the large Widescreen TV's for a moniter.. as a TV tuner and never worry about trying to find a blank tape again.. save the live TV to your computer and write it to DVD..
Your folfy
Chaz
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 19, 2003, 11:47:02 am
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 19, 2003, 12:19:34 pm
There's some cool "liquid" cooling systems out there for CPUs, HD's, etc.
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 19, 2003, 12:30:40 pm
My laptop .. grins the heatsink from the cpu rests in groves on the mettel case.. it has been know to burn your legs and the table if left on too long..
Your folfy
Chaz
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 19, 2003, 05:21:33 pm
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 20, 2003, 10:11:05 am
The Radeon 9000 AIW is a cool card, as long as you get the full memory on it. not the cutdown version.
I am thinking about upgrading to it.. Or I might just get a new computer.
Your folfy
Chaz
Post by: Firebreath on October 20, 2003, 02:53:12 pm
I have a dual CPU at home (dual P4 2.4 Ghz) and I need to upgrade to WinXP to get all the benefits from HT on my machine (my XEONS are HT-enabled, but win2K doesn't support the feature. I would need advanced server to use it...)
Honestly, for 3800$CAN, I got a dual CPU machine, radeon 9600 PRO 128megs, 1 gig ram, asus board with 1 PCI-32 and 4 PCI-X64 slots and one AGP Pro 8x slot, 2 120 gigs western digital HDD w/8megs cache, and an udigy card. With that, I'm pretty sure that I can come up to those guys, with winXP that is.
So, 7000$US for a machine like that is, IMHO, way more than one would expect...
then again, they ARE using the P4EE (extreme edition) when it comes out in november... and that will be state of the art (although not 64 bit yet...)
Post by: Ante on October 20, 2003, 06:41:07 pm
But, as White Shepard said: it can be done for much less. I just need a job and then I'll buy a better motherboard and upgrade my computer from there.
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 20, 2003, 08:40:04 pm
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 20, 2003, 11:01:18 pm
Post by: Firebreath on October 21, 2003, 01:06:51 pm
And besides, it's usually already a bit cheaper to do so. -_^
-edit-
Firestorm, after re-reading your first statement twice, and always blocking on the fact you mention up to 16Gb of RAM, and considering that even the best CPU from Intel or AMD can't take more than 4Gb total, I read more thoroughly the specs of that machine, only to read that it is indeed a max of 4Gb... And the CPU is overclocked. Although that PuRAM thing IS very impressive, I've never been quite happy with OCed CPUs personally...
But your own mileage may vary. ^^;
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 21, 2003, 03:50:06 pm
Give it a year and that computer will be obsolete.
Post by: Firebreath on October 21, 2003, 07:24:10 pm
How much RAM can Windows manage? LOL
I'm sure that once you're passed the 4 gig barrier, it,s really becoming useless...
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 21, 2003, 07:45:33 pm
Post by: chimera soul on October 21, 2003, 09:26:12 pm
but it sounds cool *hugs everyone in sight*
Post by: Firebreath on October 21, 2003, 10:48:03 pm
All I want is a license for WinXPpro, because this PC is more of a workstation than a home computer, really... x_x
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 21, 2003, 11:04:49 pm
Post by: Firebreath on October 21, 2003, 11:21:33 pm
Call me dumb, but seriously, I don't know that kind of CPU/rig... x_x
unless you mean a P3...
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 21, 2003, 11:25:33 pm
Post by: WhiteShepherd on October 21, 2003, 11:30:06 pm
Post by: WhiteShepherd on October 22, 2003, 02:02:59 am
WhiteShepherd
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 22, 2003, 02:14:45 am
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 22, 2003, 09:46:54 am
As for overclocking.. my laptop is overclocked and has been running well for afew years.. at 150% CPU speed. runs fine.. but burnt out the onboard sound for some reasion. ?
Admitaldly the case gets hot enough to burn wood.. but then what heatsick case doesn't.
Your folfy
Chaz
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 22, 2003, 04:18:43 pm
Now the idea of "Beer" cooling sounds cool ......though it would probally tast a little flat and stale after a year or so flowing through copper, aluminum, and rubber tubing.
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 22, 2003, 04:55:44 pm
Post by: WhiteShepherd on October 22, 2003, 09:23:19 pm
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 22, 2003, 09:28:30 pm
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 22, 2003, 09:43:07 pm
| Quote (Firestorm Six @ Oct. 22 2003, 9:28 pm) |
| I still got my old Commodore Vic20 in the attic somwhere. I can't remember what "speed CPU that had, or if it even had one. |
That would be a 1mhz 6502. With a whopping 5k of ram. Whee!
Post by: WhiteShepherd on October 23, 2003, 12:54:15 am
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 23, 2003, 09:18:04 am
I still have a box full of Tandy computers, Amigas, Ataris.. all the old clasics..
I also had the Origanal PONG console.. rember that ?
I rember my first 'home computer' after the sharp.. it was a Olivette 086 at 6Mhz.. I had it running at 16Mzh before it overheatered and locked up..
Also a fun thought I got my P2 to run at 1Mhz last week.. Yes thats One Mhz, underclocked.. just becouse its possable.. and was a jumper set board without the book..
Have fun all,
Your techno folfy
Chaz
Post by: Firebreath on October 23, 2003, 11:55:06 am
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/index.html
Enjoy. ^^;
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 23, 2003, 03:57:34 pm
it was cool when it was first availiable. I remember when i recieved an old 486-60 laptop from my uncle many years ago, I thought it was a leap in technology from my old Vic20, 10 Mb of ram , 200 Mb HD, parallel port , floppy drive !...futureistic stuff *
Post by: Wtcher on October 23, 2003, 04:03:05 pm
As for Windows Activation - I personally don't feel that this was ever a form of copy protection. I feel that it's a form of user tracking, and it's ridiculously bothersome because some people (ie. me) like to swap parts in and out of their machines from time to time.
Thusly, I don't play with XP. Also, it eats up a lot of memory I'd rather conserve for more important things (like running software applications and games).
Post by: Firestorm Six on October 23, 2003, 04:23:56 pm
| Quote (Wtcher @ Oct. 23 2003, 4:03 pm) |
| Firestorm Six - you said you had a Vic-20? Do you also have the game Escape from Mount Drash? |
I faintly remember somthing about the game, but i'm sure i never had that one.
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 24, 2003, 11:16:01 am
XP is too memmory hungry for my liking and with my laptop only having 64MB. I don't run XP.
(man I rember when 4MB was alot of RAM... now I see software at wal-mart recomending 4GM !!! )
I rember the Vic-20 I had to fix afew in my first computer job.
I was there for the 1st Pentum.. I was there the night Windows 95 came out.. *sighs* gods I feel old...
LOL
Your Techno Folfy
Chaz
Post by: Firebreath on October 24, 2003, 02:27:53 pm
I'd switch to XPpro only for that... because I hate having CPUs that are HT-enabled but not the OS to support it... :\
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 26, 2003, 09:43:11 am
The new version of Linux supports Hyper-Threading too.
And that uses alot less memory than any version of windows.
Just an opption
Also does the HT support in WindowsXP make up for the memmory hogging ?
Your folfy
Chaz
Post by: Kattywampus on October 27, 2003, 01:12:07 pm
Post by: Kada-Ru on October 27, 2003, 06:30:17 pm
There was one game for it, I played it a lot at the time but don't remember the title. Every now and then I will hear the 'tune' on tv and it would bring back memories of playing it!
Post by: WhiteShepherd on October 27, 2003, 10:20:12 pm
Post by: Darius Greywind on October 27, 2003, 10:23:26 pm
Post by: WhiteShepherd on October 28, 2003, 02:02:46 am
Though OS/2 has been kept up to date and has had a lot of improvements since it's early days. It's actualy quite fast and useful especialy as a server.
Post by: Chaz_wolf on October 28, 2003, 09:34:27 am
I have a full set of just about every opperating system now.. from DrDos1 to Apple Desktop 2 and Windows 1.0 to Windows ME..
LOL
I have throwing computer disks and programs away, you never know when you might need them.
Your folfy
Chaz
Post by: Firebreath on October 28, 2003, 07:28:16 pm
Nah, really, I gotta stay with microsoft.
But not like I really mind. I grew fond of the OS with time, and it hardly ever crashes on me, so... I don't see why I'd swtich.
Besides, even the memory part wouldn't bother me too much. I got 1 gig ECC dual channel DDR2100 RAM. If I really need the memory, I'll just go buy another gig (400$CAN or so...) but it would be worth it. ^^
Post by: NachtwolfES on November 11, 2006, 04:19:22 pm
it is illegal to sell anywhere except the US
Post by: Kobuk on November 11, 2006, 10:25:23 pm