Author Topic: XP Vs Vista (Read 9974 times)

Calufa · « **on:** December 02, 2007, 09:09:45 pm »

I'd say that if you don't have any current problems with XP, don't switch to Vista. Let me first say that I have little personal experience with Vista. However, from the reviews I've read (professional and user), people either love it or hate it and there's little in between. I personally don't see a valid reason to switch to Vista at this time as there's nothing new that appeals to my needs. For instance, MS had originally planned an entirely new filesystem (WinFS) that was to be reportedly much faster and better than NTFS, and if it had been implemented then I would probably recommend it. But, as far as I can tell, the improvements are mainly visual and if you want a better GUI, you can already get third party apps to make your interface however you want it in XP.

As for dual-booting Vista and XP MCE, it's certainly possible. But, like Firehazard mentioned, there may be some errors if you try to run certain programs in Vista from your MCE drive. Like he said though, this will only be limited to programs that store/access data in the MCE registry. You could always dual-boot though and simply choose between Vista and MCE when you boot the PC. However, if you go this route, XP MCE may lock you out if you simply pop the HDD with MCE into your new box. If I recall correctly (never faced this issue) if enough/certain key hardware components change (mobo, CPU, RAM...), XP will lock down and not allow you to do anything because it figures you've gone and pirated it. I do remember reports about this when XP first came out, but this may have changed.

Anywhoo, if you like XP MCE and have no current problems with it, stay with it until Vista shapes up better. You can always upgrade later and it'll save you from possible headaches now.

Azreal Oreo · « **Reply #1 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:52:51 pm »

I have a desktop with XP, and a laptop with Vista. I hate vista, and wish that I could have gotten XP but they don't do that anymore. Vista is frustrating, annoying, and a complete piece of garbage. It looks pretty, but that's just about it.

Naokii · « **Reply #2 on:** December 01, 2007, 03:16:40 am »

In another thread, I was wanting help for building my first pc. I decided to go ahead and go all out and make it a powerful multimedia center for home entertainment, gaming and a workstation. The new MOBO I want would do great in Vista, but is it worth it or all hype?

Narei Mooncatt · « **Reply #3 on:** December 01, 2007, 04:58:58 am »

I know when Vista first came out, even programs that said they were compatible had issues or made you jump through hoops to work. That may have been resolved for the most part now, but I still wouldn't want to install it in a self built system. If I'm building my own, I'd personally stay with XP, but I'm looking for good laptops myself and may consider one with Vista. At least buying one pre-installed, I know it will work out of the box. I know eventually Microsoft will work out the bugs it will become more or less stable, but it's still too early and has too much of an iffy track record for me to be confident of it.

Dusty · « **Reply #4 on:** December 01, 2007, 06:59:21 am »

I'd personally go with XP. Vista is still far too frustrating and unstable, IMO.

kirbs · « **Reply #5 on:** December 01, 2007, 07:06:36 am »

gamemaker 6.1 only works on xp, and that's the only windows program that I use nowadays...

Metamo · « **Reply #6 on:** December 01, 2007, 07:56:31 am »

Vista works great for me right now, heh.

Besides, it's newer, so XP will get left behind sooner or later, might as well switch now.

Drake Blackpaw · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2007, 08:50:21 am »

If you have a really powerful processor and around 2gigs of memory, Vista can be a nice OS. However, if you have less memory or a slowish processor, you'll be much happier with XP.

Naokii · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2007, 09:08:43 am »

Just to let you guys know, the MOBO is going to be the Asus P5K Deluxe Wifi with 4GB of RAM and running Core 2 Duo E6750 :3 If I get another HDD and install Vista 64-bit Ultimate on it, couldnt I also hook up my old HDD too and be able to run programs from it like Photoshop, even though MCE is on it?

Firehazard · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2007, 10:38:01 am »

Quote (Nikku @ Dec. 01 2007, 9:08 am)

If I get another HDD and install Vista 64-bit Ultimate on it, couldnt I also hook up my old HDD too and be able to run programs from it like Photoshop, even though MCE is on it?

Probably not. Not because the OSes are incompatible, but because Photoshop et al were installed on a machine that had that hard drive as its primary drive, i.e., the one that had the active OS on it. Generally speaking, installing programs adds files to the WINNT folder and makes edits to the Windows Registry (a database of system settings) of the active OS. If those files and changes are not in the WINNT folder and Registry of the OS currently running, the programs probably will not work. You'll pretty much have to uninstall everything prior to putting in the new drive, and reinstall it after Vista is up and running.

That aside, I don't foresee any major problems happening as a result of using Vista, not with those specs anyway. (Just make sure you get a nice good Vista-certified video card because Vista's DRM relies on having specific video cards ... the same may go for sound cards as well.)

Quote (Narei Mooncatt @ Dec. 01 2007, 4:58 am)

I'm looking for good laptops myself and may consider one with Vista. At least buying one pre-installed, I know it will work out of the box.

Don't count on it! A friend of mine bought a brand-new laptop and it turned out that it didn't even meet Vista's recommended system requirements! Particularly the RAM, which was only half of what it needed (512MB instead of 1GB). ':p'

So be careful.

Streak · « **Reply #10 on:** December 01, 2007, 11:24:04 am »

XP all the way. I'll continue using it until it's not longer supported.

Landrav · « **Reply #11 on:** December 01, 2007, 11:37:11 am »

If you're building a PC for performance, why waste valuable memory on the OS? Stick with XP.

« **Reply #12 on:** December 01, 2007, 11:46:02 am »

XP would be better. That's what I have right now. Someone I know has vista on his laptop, It messed up at least twice this year. I think.

Firehazard · « **Reply #13 on:** December 02, 2007, 09:02:46 pm »

Quote (FelixSunnyFox @ Dec. 02 2007, 4:34 pm)

The only thing you have to worry about is older systems around 2005 they die with vista.

That last statement right there is why I hate Microsoft for making Vista the way they did. The very idea of an operating system that brings computers built only two years ago to their knees would be flat-out unthinkable if Microsoft didn't have the huge stranglehold on the market that they do. It's bad enough when a piece of real software does it (heck, most games sold nowadays will probably still run fine on computers more than two years old). All it really has going for it besides the fact that it'll eventually be an industry standard, is that it looks pretty. As Zaphod Beeblebox would say, "10 out of 10 for style, but minus several million for good thinking."

But that's not the topic. The topic is whether you should get it. Should? Maybe, maybe not. Can and it probably won't hurt to do so? Yes.

Oh, one other point I just remembered: If you plan to use it for gaming, I would definitely recommend Vista for it because DirectX 10 is Vista-exclusive, and most new video games will probably start requiring it pretty soon.

FelixSunnyFox · « **Reply #14 on:** December 02, 2007, 04:34:06 pm »

Vista works fine I have converted over to windows vista ultimate have it fully updated and it works just fine, all I had to do was flash my Bios and update some drivers after that it all works like a charm and I have it installed on my self built rig works with my physx card, my sli 8800 and the nforce board. The only thing you have to worry about is older systems around 2005 they die with vista.

Seraph Vulpine · « **Reply #15 on:** December 02, 2007, 08:15:02 pm »

Quote (Streak @ Dec. 01 2007, 10:24 am)

XP all the way. I'll continue using it until it's not longer supported.

Exactly what I was gonna say

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Serra Belvoule · « **Reply #16 on:** December 02, 2007, 10:03:38 pm »

I'm all in for vista!

Naokii · « **Reply #17 on:** December 03, 2007, 12:37:55 am »

whoa..Vista really is a " love it or hate it" OS then. If I do go with Vista, I'd rather go with a new HDD just in case. As far as major hardware changes, we are talking EVERYTHING. o.o; From an old Gateway with P4 and 512mb of RAM to The newest Asus board, the Asus P5E3 Deluxe with Quadcore and 4GB of RAM :3

Tav Nymblewynd · « **Reply #18 on:** December 03, 2007, 12:50:40 am »

I"m anti vista all the way. XD i have my reasons. : P I even made a shirt to buy from cafe press with the logo:

VISTA is the new ME : P

Cobalt · « **Reply #19 on:** December 03, 2007, 02:16:15 am »

I'm going with XP on this one. I have a self-built gaming computer and I'm loathe to give up system resources to the OS. I do however bow to the fact that eventually I'll be forced to make the move over to Vista if only for the compatibility with MS DirectX 10. I'm rebuilding my system for when that happens. (Better RAM, CPU, mobo, etc...) but untill I have to, I'm going with XP.

As Tav pointed out, it hasn't been long enough to prove weather or not Vista is going to turn out as simply a newer version of ME.

sniffswind · « **Reply #20 on:** December 03, 2007, 01:17:25 pm »

lets put it like this

in the latest "I'm a mac/I'm a PC" commercials from Apple, who is promoting their new OS, Leopard, even PC admits he went back to XP, which means Apple noticed.

I like the look of Vista (I've played with a vista loaded comp), but it has as bad a rep with computer users as we do with the media concerning adult subjects.

if what my now ex had told me when vista first came out it true, it's not worth bothering with Vista because it takes every drop of the computer for itself. and i thought XP was a memory hog!

Naokii · « **Reply #21 on:** December 03, 2007, 01:37:36 pm »

*sigh* if only it were possible to build a pc and use a mac os. PCs have more power, but get short shifted on the os. :/

Tav Nymblewynd · « **Reply #22 on:** December 03, 2007, 02:38:20 pm »

Quote (Nikku @ Dec. 03 2007, 10:37 am)

*sigh* if only it were possible to build a pc and use a mac os. PCs have more power, but get short shifted on the os. :/

it is possible from what i've heard. its just VERY hard to get the mac OS off the pc if you want to take it off. I'd like to try it someday. (it should be possible because mac's use the same chips now as pcs)

and for refference, it is true, nobody knows if vista is going to be the next ME, but I like to hope and pray it is. XD I was so hyped to buy it, but once i found all the DRM crap on it, i spazzed, and spazzed more after i found out what it demanded. it claims to be more secure, but it was supposedly cracked wide open when Microsoft gave out trial copys at a hacker convention. I think the hack was called the blue or red pill (now fixed though). nothing is truely secure when its a pc

http://badvista.fsf.org/what-s-wrong-with-microsoft-windows-vista

Naokii · « **Reply #23 on:** December 03, 2007, 02:44:41 pm »

I can actually build a powerful pc and use a mac os s'long as I dont intend to uninstall?! o.o;

Serra Belvoule · « **Reply #24 on:** December 03, 2007, 05:05:41 pm »

I've always been on the "to each it's own" ideology. I'd just like to point out some of us have been using Vista for some time now with no issues. There's also those who used it and can't stand it.
But you know, I'd just wish they wouldn't make biased sites like the one "badvista", or the very sold out microsoft announcements. Everything has good and bad things, so why not letting anyone choose on their own accord?
Well, that's what I wanted to say. *whew*