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furry games and gaming discussions => gaming discussion => Topic started by: Wereaibo on November 27, 2014, 06:41:24 pm
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Does it bug you? I prefer not having animals as enemies in games. I can hack up humans and abominations right out of Lovecraft all day long but killing animals in games always makes me feel kind of bad. I know it's basically just lines of code shaped like a wolf or dragon but it's just the idea behind it that bugs me. I'd rather BE the dragon or wolf or have them as allies. Having to kill critters I identify with kind of takes a bit of fun out of it. Of course in most games it's unavoidable so I usually just grit my teeth and bear it. But if sparing the beasties is an option I always go that route if I can.
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Yea, it does. Except it's not too bad on mc. I kill animals to survive and then once I can survive through farming I avoid it XD
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It's the same for me.
I know it's not real and is just a bunch of pixels, but it does bother me.
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In Far Cry 3, I tend to run away from bears instead of fighting them, I mean, they're black bears they'd normally just run away! ^-^
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When I played Oblivion, I purposely went out of my way to never kill any wolves. That makes some areas a -lot- harder. I ended up making a spell specifically for this: Without doing any damage, it would momentarily stun and blind the target (making them lose track of you). Without this, it's nearly impossible to get them to leave you alone once they start chasing you.
Yes, it does usually tend to bother me. I also really dislike how wolves are so common as game enemies.
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I show them no mercy I kill animals in skyrim to get gold (Well not anymore because if have over 70,000+ gold no joke) other than that I just kill them because they get in the way of fights, but other than that I don't got bothered by killing them (I usually don't bother them) like Storm Fox said they're just pixels not real life, real life is another story.
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In Far Cry 3, I tend to run away from bears instead of fighting them, I mean, they're black bears they'd normally just run away! ^-^
It does annoy me that animals are programmed to act in ways that they don't act in real life. This annoys me mostly when they make animals unnecessarily aggressive.
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Doesn't bother me at all. Killing things in a game is so far removed from killing things in real life to me, it doesn't upset or annoy me in the slightest. It isn't real.
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At first i was all like "daw, do i have to?"
And now i'm all like "die you lower lifeform!"
Seriously though, i kill anything that's stupid enough to walk in front of my sword/shotgun. Yes, even my allies... sometimes...
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for me it kinda depends on the animal. i tend to refrain from killing dogs/wolfs, horses, cats. it still does bother me when i need to kill a pig/cow/chicken in minecraft tho (i tend to stick to plants in mc)
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At first i was all like "daw, do i have to?"
And now i'm all like "die you lower lifeform!"
Seriously though, i kill anything that's stupid enough to walk in front of my sword/shotgun. Yes, even my allies... sometimes...
That was pretty much my reaction to having to kill wolves in the Lord of the ring games for GBA. Particularly in Return Of The King. They're some of the deadliest enemies in the game, particularly on your first play through. They can reduce your life bar to zero in seconds. Avoiding them is rarely an option. If you try to run they will chase you to the ends of the map. Much like a Terminator they don't show remorse, they don't show pity and they absolutely will not stop until you are dead. After dying and being forced to repeat the map a few times I went from "aeww poor things" to "oh crap! a wolf!kill it kill it kill it" One of the rare times a game forced me to feel aggressive toward an animal.
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I play Warcraft with my gf, but I don't go out of my way to kill animal
characters. Especially the odd rabbit kin that hops by. :D
The others I generally avoid unless it's part of a quest or in defense.
I never cared for hunting in RL. It's hard for me to kill another living
creature except for survival, or in defense of me or mine.
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You're pretty lucky in that rabbits are rarely made enemies in games. In fact I've been playing video games since the very early 80's and I can't think of a single game that had rabbits as villainous characters.
Unfortunately for me some of the animals I identify with most are frequently used as enemies. Dogs, wolves, rats and dragons. Furbys on the other hand are owned by Hasbro and the chances they'd allow them to be used negatively in anything is nil so that's at least one break.
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I kill animals for breakfast. Wait...that doesn't sound right. I eat animals for breakfast after I kill them. Venison FTW
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I liked the bits in Okami where you'd be using the fire attack and little animals would get in the way and run around like crazy for a couple seconds, on fire. I thought it was a silly touch.
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You're pretty lucky in that rabbits are rarely made enemies in games. In fact I've been playing video games since the very early 80's and I can't think of a single game that had rabbits as villainous characters.
Unfortunately for me some of the animals I identify with most are frequently used as enemies. Dogs, wolves, rats and dragons. Furbys on the other hand are owned by Hasbro and the chances they'd allow them to be used negatively in anything is nil so that's at least one break.
In Terraria rabbits die allot :o The zombies and slimes kill them just by touching them.
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I don't feel too bad, depends what I kill, and even then it's not much of an issue. I find it strange that some people have no problem murdering thousands of people but lord forbid someone shoots an animal in a game. I understand it but it still seems strange.
In Far Cry 3 I go specifically for what I need and if it's hostile then I either use it to kill people like a creeper or just kill it and sell the skin.
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I think it's because in most cases the humans you're killing are legitimately in the wrong. Generally in video games you're up against forces who are aiding in the destruction or enslavement of the population at large. A human mook attacking you is doing so purely out of malice. And, hey, if you work with an evil overlord you forfeit your right to complain when you're carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey. You brought it on yourself.
Animals on the other hand only usually are attacking out of hunger, defense of territory, or having the misfortune of being enslaved by the bad guys and used as living weapons. They are rarely attacking out of true malice and aren't nearly as deserving of death as the humans who are attacking in order to stop you from thwarting some evil plan that, if they were decent people, they wouldn't be taking part in in the first place.
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You've never played any GTA games have you?
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Vice City is probably one of my all time favorite games. And the designers of the GTA series refuse to add animals and children to the games for a very good reason. People can be monsters. It's one thing to play the villain and slaughter your way through hapless civilians. Adding young children or animals to the mix, beings that are usually innocent and helpless and the fun factor takes a sharp downturn. Adults at least have the capacity to defend themselves. I've been on the receiving end of a few angry mobs in various GTA games. But young children and animals are helpless. Innocent. Pure. Sure they're just lines of program but the concept behind killing an innocent, helpless being is unsettling. We've all had encounters with scummy adults and older teens. It's easy to project these encounters onto the civilians massacred in the GTA games. But doing the same thing to children or animals, particularly those commonly kept as pets such as dogs and cats, is unsettling. These beings depend on us to keep them safe. Killing them, even in a video game, is just unsettling.
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You're pretty lucky in that rabbits are rarely made enemies in games. In fact I've been playing video games since the very early 80's and I can't think of a single game that had rabbits as villainous characters.
Unfortunately for me some of the animals I identify with most are frequently used as enemies. Dogs, wolves, rats and dragons. Furbys on the other hand are owned by Hasbro and the chances they'd allow them to be used negatively in anything is nil so that's at least one break.
Yes many of the enemies in games are the larger carnivore animal types. In warcrafts
Pandara there are long tailed rabbit character types that one is forced to kill or be killed.
I did try to avoid them, but they think all outsiders are out to grab their food. So they
attack and attack and attack. Even their kin. :D
Most of the rabbits in the rest of the game are just one of the small animals used for
background effect. Rabbits, Squirrels, Skunks, ect.
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You're pretty lucky in that rabbits are rarely made enemies in games. In fact I've been playing video games since the very early 80's and I can't think of a single game that had rabbits as villainous characters.
Quest for glory 4 had evil bunnies that would attack you. (I think it was basically a nod to Monty Python).
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If it moves and has a life bar I try to find new and unique ways to deplenish it.
It's all just pixels, not like there's a real animal being hurt.
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It doesn't bother me to kill animals in game, if it attacks me it's my virtual life or it's and I value mine a lot more (partially because i can never remember when i last saved). However i also don't seek them out unless required by a quest (My one exception to that rule is dears. You have tasty tasty meat i can either sell or cook with.)
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While I love animals, I generally don't mind doing so in games such as Skyrim and Minecraft. Both deal with having to kill animals to survive. You have dragons that attack you if they lay eyes on you, and I'd rather not become flame charred lizard/reptile because I happen to be related to them in a sense. And in Minecraft, you can starve to death if you don't eat. Yes you have grains and such, but meat deals better with your health. Like, it staves off hunger longer than things like bread and baked potatoes. The animals I use as a food source are treated well in minecraft. I have them penned in so the wolves can't get to them easily, and I deal with the wolves that try and attack my critters. Plus I have to tamed wolves that I don't have go into battle because I don't like seeing them get hurt.
In general though, if the critter is an enemy that is trying to kill me or my teammates/pets/critters, I will kill it first/back. If it isn't trying to kill me or any of my teammates/pets/critters, I tend to leave them alone though
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Those rats aren't going to kill themselves and drop Humanity.
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Species bias, I'm a canine, thus I attempt to re frame from the unnecessary deaths of other canines... unless the game forces me to ... *hugs Sif (Dark Souls)* TwT
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In farcry 4 its really different usually animals don't squirt up in your face the blood flows down
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I have no issue with it. They're not real.
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It depends about the game I'm playing. If it's MC i have no problem with killing those cubic animal like creatures.
For most of the games: If it's cute i feel bad about killing it. If it's ugly i have no problem killing it. :D
Usually when i play skyrim i use the calm spell ("sedative" effect) on animals and just walk past them. But if it's pack of wolves i just brutally kill them. Because 1. The spell is single target and it drains lot of magic 2. The wolves in normal skyrim textures aren't that nice looking 3. They are coded as aggressive animals.
And humans are animals too so...
Killing humans in games? I can answer my opinion about that in one mission name "No Russian". (one of my favorite mission)
Still waiting for game where you can play as dragon
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Still waiting for game where you can play as dragon
It exists. Divinity 2 and Dinvity: Dragon Commander are two that spring to mind.
The only animals I won't kill in games are passive/neutral lizards and other reptiles. Mainly because I usually game with Dany on my lap and she looks mildly disapproving.
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Once when I was playing Minecraft, I had a doggy following me around. It was actually the first time I had tamed a wolf.
And for those that don't know, when a pet is following you in minecraft, if it gets too far away, it will teleport back to where you are.
Well, I was up on a tall structure I was working on, and was in a particularly narrow area, and the doggy came out with me. It then fell off, whined from the fall damage, teleported back and immediately fell off again... this happened like four of five times in a row before I had time to react. The doggy died and I felt absolutely terrible after that.
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Still waiting for game where you can play as dragon
It exists. Divinity 2 and Dinvity: Dragon Commander are two that spring to mind.
The only animals I won't kill in games are passive/neutral lizards and other reptiles. Mainly because I usually game with Dany on my lap and she looks mildly disapproving.
Don't kill me loc but I still kill geckos after I get the animal friends perk in the fallout games ^^- the only things in games I won't kill are canine class animals, which is why I refuse to play Dark Souls, cause Sif :<
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Don't kill me loc but I still kill geckos after I get the animal friends perk in the fallout games ^^-
You monster D':
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C'est la vie, I'm a canine call it species bias :/ *shrugs*
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If Far Cry has taught me anything, it is that every animal in existence is an evil man-eating monster that wants nothing more than to slaughter you for the sheer sport of it.
My response is to shoot literally anything that moves with the biggest gun i can find. I'm yet to find a reason to seek out a less violent solution. x_x
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You're pretty lucky in that rabbits are rarely made enemies in games. In fact I've been playing video games since the very early 80's and I can't think of a single game that had rabbits as villainous characters.
Unfortunately for me some of the animals I identify with most are frequently used as enemies. Dogs, wolves, rats and dragons. Furbys on the other hand are owned by Hasbro and the chances they'd allow them to be used negatively in anything is nil so that's at least one break.
In Terraria rabbits die allot :o The zombies and slimes kill them just by touching them.
One time in Terraria, it was night and I saw a rabbit outside, so I opened the door to my house, and was like, "Get in here bunny rabbit! Quickly!!!" And right as he does come in, he gets corrupted and attacks me. Learned my lesson on that. Now I just build around bunnies at night so they don't get hurt
XD I never ever kill animals in that game except if they brutally attack me
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I literally go way out of my way to avoid killing creatures other than humans. And I play some RPG's so it's very difficult to avoid. For example, in Dark Souls the rats aren't too hostile, so I try to sneak around them. If they go to attack me, if I am safe to do so, I run away, very fast. At one point you are forced to kill an animal for storyline purposes and my gods is it the most depressing fight ever. It will most certainly make you cry. Also in other games where creatures are friendly, I will often spend lots of time with them! Even if they are programmed with basic actions...^.^...I'm very much a lover of animals.
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Also in other games where creatures are friendly, I will often spend lots of time with them! Even if they are programmed with basic actions...^.^...I'm very much a lover of animals. [/color]
I've been playing LoZ: Twilight Princess, and in the town there are dogs that you can play fetch with. I don't think it does anything for you as far as the game is concerned, but I often stop to play with them a bit when I'm passing by. ^^
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I hate when my sister play Skyrim. She always kills wolves and foxes, but that's not all. Even though they're code and light, I find it quite disturbing that she likes to pick them up and haul them around, throwing their limp bodies around. It's why I won't let her play Skyrim on my Youtube channel.
I avoid killing animals as much as possible. Except for mole rats and mutant hounds in Fallout 4. I fill them with 5mm rounds and laser burns. If I absolutely have to kill a wolf in Skyrim, it's usually because I don't have a horse, I'm over-encumbered and can't fast travel or there's a pack of them that keep bothering me. I don't kill people in games unless I'm in a reckless mood and they get caught in the path of my mini-nukes, car-bombs or collapsing buildings. As for Minecraft, I tend to go with plants for food unless I'm going someplace far away and danerous. Then I bust out the steaks and porkchops.
So my answer is I am not comfortable with it.
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I see no problem killing animals in games. It's just pixels after all. :P I really don't understand why some people get so bent out of shape about it. Some people take gaming wayyyyy too seriously. :P
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I see no problem killing animals in games. It's just pixels after all. :P I really don't understand why some people get so bent out of shape about it. Some people take gaming wayyyyy too seriously. :P
yep exactly
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I see no problem killing animals in games. It's just pixels after all. :P I really don't understand why some people get so bent out of shape about it. Some people take gaming wayyyyy too seriously. :P
Exactly. In games, I'll kill animals and have no regrets afterwards, because that's just what it is: a game. Believe me, in real life, I absolutely hate hunting (and thankfully, my redneck jerk of a dad recognizes that). Thing is, just because I'm not a fan of hunting doesn't mean I'm a vegan or anything. I'm fine with eating things that were once animals, but I draw the line at taking lives (this doesn't necessarily apply for things like wasps and ants, given that they're about to sting me or something).
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To me, the death of a fictional animal follows the same rules as a fictional person. If it was just some random common background character, i hardly blink an eye. Wolves, bandits, dragons? All free game in my book. However, if it was a (almost always named) character that i had actually gotten attached to... Well, let's put it this way; after playing though all of Borderlands 1 as Mordi, there were some events in Borderlands 2 that i... didn't enjoy. And i think that experience actually led me to enjoy the game that much more, because i became more invested in the game, on a more personal level.
It's really not that different from getting attached to a TV or movie character, or even an RP character. Yeah, people will tell you things like "it's just a game" or "It's not real", but i'd be more concerned for my mental health if losing someone i cared about, real or not, was not upsetting in some capacity.
(Looking back on what i just wrote, i feel this turned into more of a point about CHARACTERS in video games, but who said those characters couldn't be animals? After all, in Fable II i left thousands of people to their death just to bring my dog back to life!)
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If I absolutely have to kill a wolf in Skyrim, it's usually because I don't have a horse, I'm over-encumbered and can't fast travel or there's a pack of them that keep bothering me.
The wolves in Skyrim are friendly if you are a werewolf in wolf form. And I use a mod that makes them also friendly if you are a werewolf that isn't is wolf form. ^^
Also, if I see a fox get killed I'd usually reload from the last save and then try to make sure it doesn't get killed. Maybe it's silly, but if I seen someone playing Skyrim and purposely killing the foxes, that'd bother me.
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Also, if I see a fox get killed I'd usually reload from the last save and then try to make sure it doesn't get killed. Maybe it's silly, but if I seen someone playing Skyrim and purposely killing the foxes, that'd bother me.
That's not silly at all.
People are nasty and cruel to harmless little animals all of the time in real life, whether it's sport hunting, culling, or just some random sick pieces of garbage doing awful things to a puppy (http://myfox8.com/2016/02/24/2-teens-charged-in-sc-puppy-shooting/), real life is full of crap like that and it sucks.
So it makes sense for those who care about animals to not want to see such things happen in our escapes from this sucky reality, which is what video games are, role playing within a fantasy world to escape this reality.
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It's only a game!
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It's only a game!
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Yes, it is only a game.
But who chooses to play a particular game? Who chooses to partake in a particular activity within a game?
The choices made to play a particular game, and the activities enjoyed within a game are a direct indication of what stimulates the happy or reward response in a given player's brain. It's all relative to what a person likes, what they desire, and what excites them both consciously and subconsciously.
And the manner of stimulating content can very well define a person's psychological state and identity, or potential extremes thereof.
Another way of putting it... Disturbed is as disturbed does. And people don't go finding enjoyment in cutting little animals in half like in the picture you posted (even if it is only a video game) unless they are in some way mentally disturbed.
And of course Kobuk, there's no need to show us any more of your most favorite video games. :P
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Also, if I see a fox get killed I'd usually reload from the last save and then try to make sure it doesn't get killed. Maybe it's silly, but if I seen someone playing Skyrim and purposely killing the foxes, that'd bother me.
Not silly at all. It bothers me a ton.
On one of my Fallout 4 characters, I can calm animals because perks. I did this with some mole rats in Vault 81 and thought they were kinda cute when they aren't trying to feast upon me, in their own wierd way. I found it silly, but I tried to calm them. The ones that did not comply were filled with lead and lasers.
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Another way of putting it... Disturbed is as disturbed does. And people don't go finding enjoyment in cutting little animals in half like in the picture you posted (even if it is only a video game) unless they are in some way mentally disturbed.
But... i enjoy Happy Tree Friends though... :'( HAVE I BEEN A MONSTER MY ENTIRE LIFE!?
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Another way of putting it... Disturbed is as disturbed does. And people don't go finding enjoyment in cutting little animals in half like in the picture you posted (even if it is only a video game) unless they are in some way mentally disturbed.
But... i enjoy Happy Tree Friends though... :'( HAVE I BEEN A MONSTER MY ENTIRE LIFE!?
I can't tell if you're serious or being sarcastic. :/
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but if I seen someone playing Skyrim and purposely killing the foxes, that'd bother me.
Sorry. I will obliterate anything on the map for leather.
It's just a game, I just cant be sad that the pixels stopped being animated.
Another way of putting it... Disturbed is as disturbed does. And people don't go finding enjoyment in cutting little animals in half
Speak for yourself. Dripping in leather armour with sweet new kicks to match only so I can go out hunting for better quality leather.
The archers life is a hard day of killing critters
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Another way of putting it... Disturbed is as disturbed does. And people don't go finding enjoyment in cutting little animals in half like in the picture you posted (even if it is only a video game) unless they are in some way mentally disturbed.
But... i enjoy Happy Tree Friends though... :'( HAVE I BEEN A MONSTER MY ENTIRE LIFE!?
I can't tell if you're serious or being sarcastic. :/
That makes two of us. ;) (I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, though.)
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It definitely depends on the animal... I don't like when it's non-optional, though. And it's one thing if it's 'kill this not to starve', or 'kill this before it kills you', but something else if it's 'kill five of these guys because some guy said to'... and even with the dangerous animals, I like when you have the option to run.
I feel bad if I accidentally kill a peaceful animal I didn't mean to just because it startled me in an area where I was preparing to face enemies.
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I mentioned that it bothers me that wolves are so often enemies in video games. Well, it also sometimes bothers me that spiders are so often enemies in video games, but for a completely different reason; I find them highly creepy. So I have no problem with killing them. Maybe I should though cause it honestly seems kind of mean when you look at it a certain way.
"I have to kill you because I don't like the way you look" :o
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I couldn't care less what my enemy is, I kill them the fastest possible. Although I do kill the occasional idiotic NPC ally too :P
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anyone here play subnautica? the developers of the game specifically said that they are not going to add any lethal weapons to the game (with the exception of a diving knife that is all ready in game) because they dont want it to turn into a "kill everything you see" type of game and more exploration/learning how to avoid the deadly creatures.
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anyone here play subnautica? the developers of the game specifically said that they are not going to add any lethal weapons to the game (with the exception of a diving knife that is all ready in game) because they dont want it to turn into a "kill everything you see" type of game and more exploration/learning how to avoid the deadly creatures.
I want to play Subnautica. I watch IGP play it. Jacksepticeye used to and he got me into the game. I can't play it because my toaster refuses to run games that graphically intense.