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Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Baconstrip on October 30, 2006, 10:46:16 am
So I'm not sure how familiar people are with the term... but Lucid Dreaming is the act of becoming self aware in your dream that you ARE dreaming and can then manipulate the world around  you as you see fit.    I personally have always had very interesting dreams, and I used to become lucid during those dreams quite a bit.  It has died down as I got a bit older, but I am now attempting to regain as much control as I can.   Currently I have maybe one lucid ever 2 months, but with practice that can increase!

Now, being extremely new to the world of furry, I have never had a lucid dream and became an animal, but I tell you, it is definitely possible to become your fursona and do anything you want within the dream.  It just takes an exceptionally long time to practice and get it right (for most people at least).  Some people have more of an affinity than others as well, but I dont doubt with dedication everyone can learn to become lucid.   Lucid dreaming really does seem like the PERFECT tool for a furry to actually become his\her fantasy.

Anyway a quick google search of lucid dreaming should provide you with good sites to learn from :). A movie I would also recommend would be Waking Life.. which deals with lucid dreaming and philosophy.

I dunno, it just seems like the absolute perfect tool for a furry!   I hope it intrigues someone enough to give it the time to have results.. it truly works!

I also apologize if there has been a thread like this in the past...  I did a search and didn't really find anything :)

OH! PS: I hope this is also posted in the right forum!




Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Dark Nation on October 30, 2006, 11:00:48 am
I don't fall into the stage of 'Deep sleep' where you start to dream, the only dreams I have are more like daydreams, made up in my head as i'm falling asleep, so i guess they would be almost lucid dreams :p
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Gwyndolium on October 30, 2006, 11:01:58 am
I had my interest in lucid dreaming a year ago and relearned the ability. But it's not true you can fully control your dream.... Well yes you do but you can't do all the things you want because your mind is very limited in lucid state. Because if you become to minded you'll awake.

I did alot of lucid dreaming but most dreams you know you dream and you do the first thing that comes to your mind. Like for example:
I noticed when I was dreaming and turned some dogs into husky's and hugged them. End of dream..
I have tried furry alot but it never happened to be that it came into my mind so I gave up..

Also I noticed that lucid dreaming is quite draining your energy and it wasn't that nice on school the other days.
So the only thing I use lucid dreaming for is to avoid nightmares. Yes I don't have nightmares anymore because if something bad happens I know I dream and can skip it immediatly or just wake up as I please. For the rest I do try sometimes but I guess I'm not the best gifted dreamer in the world..
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Post by: Mianame on October 30, 2006, 11:12:05 am
My sister and I ghave been able to lucid dream ever since we were little, even before we knew what it was.

I'll say that my talents for it are a little less, but I haven't had a nightmare in close to nine years simply because I'm able to wake myself up the moment they start. I can change and morph in my dreams and I've turned into a feline once or twice, but it is extremely difficult.

For my sister it isn't so hard and I don't think she's had many side effects. She's one of those rare people that never has a normal dream; she always lucid dreams, 24/7. Morphing for her is simple along with summoning things like horses or flying. So I'd say she's the perfect example of practice makes perfect.

The only bad part about dreaming is how little you remember when you have to get up and go right after waking up.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Baconstrip on October 30, 2006, 11:12:58 am
Well becoming lucid is DEFINITELY going to be different for everyone.  I personally have not had the success of people I have read about... but I  certainly think that anything is possible when in the world of dreams. I do think with enough practice and understanding you could pretty much do whatever you want.  Currently, when I become lucid.... I wake up pretty quickly due to being excited.  Hopefully that will change for me someday :)

When I was younger I also often had times where I would become lucid and was able to step out of the dream and wake myself up.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Baconstrip on October 30, 2006, 11:15:30 am
And yes,  the rememberance of your dreams is definitely a big problem with lucid dreaming.  Thats why most lucid dreamers recommend keeping a dream journal and writing down what you experienced the second you wake up.  Also positively affirming in your mind that you WILL remember your dreams helps build that memory too!  I have been pretty lazy about doing it... but it does help.  I remember a large amount of most of my dreams RIGHT when I wake.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Bear Paw on October 30, 2006, 11:19:03 am
Its not an easy state to get to nor to maintain I found. Though the results are more than a little pleasing. It can be a very intresting experiance. Would like to find out if you could (for want of  a better word) stabalise it so as to get more out of it.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Rooster on October 30, 2006, 11:36:22 am
I'm an insomiac, I'm lucky if I get 5 hours a night anyways.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Mianame on October 30, 2006, 02:31:58 pm
It's probably more likely that you have sleep apnea Rooster. That's a case where people have trouble reaching the final stages of sleep causing one to barely get rest, be woken up often, or feel tired all the time. I highly recommend seeing a doctor if you have trouble sleeping. In fact, I recommend that to anyone. I work with my mother every now and then when she does sleep studies and there are major dangers from missing even a few hours of sleep.

So enough preaching from me; back on subject. I've tried convincing myself before I go to bed that I will remember my dreams, but that seems to make me forget them even more. The journal things works great, however. When I actually get up off my lazy butt and use it, that is.
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Post by: DrDeraphis on October 30, 2006, 03:09:06 pm
Lucid dreaming is difficult to do! I think that the hardest thing about lucid dreaming (next to actually doing it) is to remember to keep a dream journal after you wake up all groggy in the morning.

I think that I might have to start working on it again. I've been getting a strange series of numbers and places rattling off in my mind (1960s varients are the most prominent). Also, Isn't it possible to get to the root of your problems (mental illness, addictions, and insecurities) through your lucid dreams?
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Baconstrip on October 30, 2006, 03:16:41 pm
Quote (DrDeraphis @ Oct. 30 2006, 3:09 pm)
Lucid dreaming is difficult to do! I think that the hardest thing about lucid dreaming (next to actually doing it) is to remember to keep a dream journal after you wake up all groggy in the morning.

I think that I might have to start working on it again. I've been getting a strange series of numbers and places rattling off in my mind (1960s varients are the most prominent). Also, Isn't it possible to get to the root of your problems (mental illness, addictions, and insecurities) through your lucid dreams?

I'd imagine that it is certainly possible to explore your problems and come to self realizations about them.  I'd guess its similar to how deep meditation can help you explore your problems..
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Post by: Mianame on October 30, 2006, 03:20:25 pm
All depends on your belief system Dr. There are those that thnk that the mind is doing nothing but playing random thoughts to keep itself working while your body rests.

I presonally believe that dreams do have a strong root in the subconscious, often times bringing up problems that are bothering you without you even knowing it. It's even possible, in my opinion, to dredge up memories from a past life.

But there are many cases where people say that there dreams have predicted past, present, and future problems in their lives, even sometimes helping them get over denial, fears, addiction, and even phobias.
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Post by: FreppleTheFox on October 30, 2006, 06:08:59 pm
yeah i used to lucid dream several times a few years ago. Not on purpose, it just happened.

I was like bugs bunny in one dream, it was weird i was like controlling him.. but only lasted 5 mins or something. strange!
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Post by: Freecat on October 30, 2006, 10:10:45 pm
I had a really strange but pleasant dream a few years ago and upon waking I found I could remember every detail, even the way things smelled. Over time the more I thought about it the more I had the same dream. After a few months of this I noticed many little details of the dream were changing and realized it was me changing them. Then I really started to have fun with it. Doing things like jumping from a tree limb way up in the air and landing on the ground as lightly as a feather would or walking through solid objects. The only part of the dream that I couldn’t control was my direct interaction with the other creatures in it. They played their own roles and could not be controlled for some reason. Maybe some of us play together in our dreams :~).
 That dream doesn’t happen as often now, maybe about once a month. I do find that I’m having many more vivid dreams than before and remember them very clearly. I can’t control events in them as well as I could in the original dream but I’m working on it. =^_^=
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Dark Nation on October 30, 2006, 10:22:48 pm
Quote (Rooster @ Oct. 30 2006, 11:36 am)
I'm an insomiac, I'm lucky if I get 5 hours a night anyways.

Lucky if you get 5 hours?  Dude, that must make you the most well-rested insomniac on earth.  The rest of us have to get by on 1-2 hours a night MAYBE :joke:
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Baconstrip on October 31, 2006, 12:44:12 am
Quote (Mikey @ Oct. 30 2006, 10:22 pm)
Quote (Rooster @ Oct. 30 2006, 11:36 am)
I'm an insomiac, I'm lucky if I get 5 hours a night anyways.

Lucky if you get 5 hours?  Dude, that must make you the most well-rested insomniac on earth.  The rest of us have to get by on 1-2 hours a night MAYBE :joke:

I consider 5 hours of sleep a quality night of rest!
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Gwyndolium on October 31, 2006, 02:17:04 am
I definiatly need 7 hours of sleep a night else I'll crash after a week  :p

And about problems.. You can solve them if you made your own problems. You make your own fears for example and can make hem go away in your dreams if you do it correctly. And about memories it's true. If you lost something and recall it in a lucid dream most of the times you'll find in your dreams where it is in real. And of course dreams are very useful as inspiration as well.. That's why I normally just let the normal dreams go and learn from them instead of doing all yourself.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: LupineMagnum on October 31, 2006, 03:13:30 am
I always have lucid dreams, I have all my life. I don't think if this is a side effect of ADHD or whether it's because I sleep like a log (on an army cadet camp, I slept through 2 hours of gunfire).

Now, being an 18 year old male, these dreams usually encompass a single thing. Of course I have had other, more random dreams, but alot I have are about yiffing a certain blue vixen (no futher explaination required)

I am yet to have any transformation dreams or whatever, I am aware I am dreaming when it happens, but I have no control over what I dream about. Is there anyone out there who can actually control the content of their dreams?
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Mianame on October 31, 2006, 06:59:03 am
I can, to an extent. I had this one girl, Latia, appear in my dreams frequently who would try to run away from me. But I could stop her in mid-run and pull her back. In the first dream I saw her in, I was in a kitchen with black and white tiled flooring, but I didn't like the decor and I wanted to be outside. So I thought on that long enough to make one wall disappear and made the floor fade into grass and the rest of the area open up into wilderness.

That was the one and only time I did it. Now that Latia person always felt like something more than a dream person; maybe an entity visiting while resting, but wither way I know I always had more power when she was around, so something aobut her caused it. I could never just normaly do these things.
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Post by: Gwyndolium on October 31, 2006, 01:35:25 pm
It's possible but it's way harder than people think. You really have to concentrate on the fact it's your dream and they have no power whatsoever so it will do what you want.. Like a sort of bruce almighty feature only harder.
That way I couldn't make a jump.. I just thought why not appearing at the opposite side..

But it's really hard to control all..
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Ginny on October 31, 2006, 05:21:09 pm
I've heard of lucid dreaming, but I've only ever had one, and that one was...wow.  Just...I'll never forget it ^^
Anyway, do you think you could PM me instructions and such...?  I don't have the freedom to google it ((parental controls of comppy ><)).  Anyway, I agree, that next to the transformation files, this does seem to be a great tool for furries.  Thanks very much for posting!!
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Cobalt on November 01, 2006, 09:54:00 am
My old roomie in Michigan had a friend that could do that. I'd love to learn how to do it myself.
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Post by: Rooster on November 08, 2006, 08:57:02 am
Quote (Mianame @ Oct. 30 2006, 7:31 pm)
It's probably more likely that you have sleep apnea Rooster. That's a case where people have trouble reaching the final stages of sleep causing one to barely get rest, be woken up often, or feel tired all the time. I highly recommend seeing a doctor if you have trouble sleeping. In fact, I recommend that to anyone. I work with my mother every now and then when she does sleep studies and there are major dangers from missing even a few hours of sleep.

Oh, it's ok. I know what causes it, though this isn't the place to talk about it.

I just accept it and try to just get rested by chilling out to music instead. Seems to do the trick. I've been an insomniac since I was 18. I'm 21, and pretty healthy.
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Post by: Niiku on November 18, 2006, 04:57:20 am
i become lucid in my dreams quite often, mostly by mistake actually XD i'll realise that i'm willing something to happen (usually a transformation) and i stop, then i start again, and take control of the dream after that. it's quite fun, and rather rewarding too, especially on the few times i've gotten myself to complete the transformation into a dragon, or my fursona, or whatever before i woke up. :3 much more real feeling (and probably a heck of a lot safer) than i'd imagine that silly transformation file to be.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Gyp on November 21, 2006, 07:14:14 am
My experiences with lucid dreaming are not quite like that...

I recently did a project for a psychology class in which I kept a dream journal for three weeks, writing down every detail from every dream I could remember and then, the next night, telling myself that I would remember my dreams the next morning. I have always had good dream recollection and many lucid dreams, but this project helped me compile some statistics.

I have approximately 1.5 dreams a night. Once, during those three weeks, I had up to seven distinct dreams on a single night. Also, 24% of my dreams are lucid.

Unfortunately, when my dreams are lucid that doesn't mean that I can do whatever I want to do. I cannot control the actions of the people around me; only my own. And I can only control my environment itself to a certain extent. For example, I can launch my house into space or add snowmobiles to a mountain, but I can't just decide to abandon one dream in favor of an entirely different location. Also, there are varying degrees of lucidity. Sometimes I am aware that I am dreaming and yet cannot control anything; other times I can consciously control everything I do and yet am not really aware that I am dreaming at all.

I have not become my fursona in a lucid dream... it's never made sense to be a furry, before, in the context of them. I have, however, become an alien, or a superhero, or any number of things... (Unfortunately, the one thing I can NEVER do in my dreams is fly. Never had a flying dream; not once.) If I were to somehow transform into my fursona, however, I doubt the experience would be satisfying. My dreams never make sense and always have "what the heck" elements, if you will. If I want everything to be perfect, I'll just stick with my imagination...
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Post by: on November 21, 2006, 08:09:26 am
i have been able to control my dreaming for, well ever.  when i was a wee lad i had terrible nightmares and i eventually learned how to change them.  one instance i can remember was when i first had darkwolfen (my dark and nasty fursona) i was able to defeated some strange terminator, i have used it ever since and i learned how to just change add, make things more realistic, but i find if i get too involved the concentration needed eventually wakes me up.  its better to change one or two things then let it flow.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: WolfBoy on November 22, 2006, 02:17:46 am
I've been able to have lucid dreams as long as I remember :) .
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Post by: Rozga on November 22, 2006, 09:00:47 pm
I have had dreams like those.  I think the longest mine has ever lasted was about 4 or 5 years.  I think One of my friends in the dream moved, so I ended it, Nya.

~Rozga
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Post by: Foxxhoria on November 28, 2006, 04:51:46 am
I think I've had a few lucid dreams, I think I always contol my actions in a dream, and they always seem so realistic that I think that I am not dreaming, rather, it is reality. I then wake up first thinking "wow, things have gone my way" or "oh boo, I did not want that to happen" and then I'm like "oh, that did not happen!". But, I don't seem to remember some of my dreams
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Post by: Greynard on January 11, 2007, 10:27:46 pm
Hmm, yes I Lucid dream. Its become an expertise of mine, and I can do it whenever I most please.
I think I have a very crazy imagination or something, for the first time I've stopped a nightmare, ((it was some confusing thing about alien bugs reproducing on with thumbtacks [??], it took place at my grandparents house, most of my dreams of a place i've before do now that i think of it)) I sort of made a 'node' for the dreams i've had.

Well... presently, I can adjust most any aspect of a dream I have, down to the movement of a leaf by the wind. And, I think it may have hindered my Vivid Dreaming abilities.

Now, Lucid Dreams are a real power, able to do whatever you may well please and remember things, as well as conquer fears (did it for death, i don't have necrophobia anymore), but Vivid Dreams are what make nights most interesting. As far as I remember of what I do myself in dreaming is looking through clips (pictures, movies, audio, anything my regular 5 senses catch) or figuring out some trivial information I looked up some other time (heh, Grand Antiprism), in a console with that 'node' from the beginning, but as anything from air to my fursona (yea.. It's become easy to think of him and his aspects).
Just perusing over what I've collected in the World and day's imagination. It's a time of connection with what the heck my head's been doing all day, since it's either going too fast for me to catch up or hiding (somehow). Anyway, those few times I DO let a dream loose, I'm usually aware and sit back to watch the show, I'd perfer to be an audience than a director. There may be some times where I forget it, but then it hits me later that day. And for those bits that you get when you wake up, I usually remember those for a while... I'm remembering an odd one right now. They sometimes also turn out to be foresight, but it hasn't in over... Hmm... 3 weeks?

But now I'm sorta going off topic, ask me in some other way than spamming a topic not for it.  :p

Happy dreaming, and be the heck careful. Power is a.. er.. POWERFUL thing.
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Post by: Sequester on January 16, 2007, 03:05:31 pm
Wooow lucid dreaming. I used to be all into that some years ago, consistantly kept a dream journal, always doing reality checks, and looked forward to going to bed. Then I went off to college and now I don't even have a sleep cycle, so it's hard to stay consistant with anything. I had some fairly nice results though, though far from full control. I honestly don't know that I would want to take full control though, as that takes out the element of adventure/surprise.

Some people mentioned it being hard to keep a dream journal -- what worked best for me was to keep a handheld tape recorder by my bed and just use that-- it saves getting up and turning on the light (or computer screen) and trying to write as fast as you can all the details before the dream fades from memory. I always did transcribe it from the tape later when I was fully awake, and sometimes remembered a bit more in the process.

I still have a lucid dream every now and then, and most nights I remember a dream or two. I just don't put a lot of effort into inducing lucid dreams like I used to.
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Post by: Greynard on January 16, 2007, 07:38:46 pm
Heh, weird thing: I took down my Indian-style dream catcher I've had for ages and... Dreams seem... better in a way. Like they're coming from elsewhere instead of my own head.
I remember I had started Lucid dreaming when i was wee young, no more than 10 or 9 (why am i saying wee...?). I had always heard that dreams are what you make of them, they aren't real and they can't hurt you. Well, I'm a hard thinker, and back then I had taken this most literally, and stopped that dream... now I'm getting into the entire "Astral Plane" concept. One thing that happened recently that freaked the hell out of me was, I was remembering back to my first (memorable) dream (one that repeated, it was my first lucid experience as well), this takes place at my grandparents house.
Anywho, I look back and remember a wall at the end of where the pond drain would allegedly be. I found out recently that there once WAS a wall there, I had to eliminate some of it to fix pond draining. So, i looked back (chatting about Lucid dreaming, go figure) and then I realize... WHOA that WAS there?!
So... Yea, dreams are an oddity for me. :p
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Post by: Red Reynart on January 25, 2007, 09:55:11 pm
Lucid dreaminng, wow someone touching on this is great. I am always aware of I dreaming that I have surpreme power over everything associated with it. I am able to reshape my dream and even contact others while I dream threw my dreams. I am very strong in my dreams, but even though I have strong ability I still can not manipulate everything some things happen.

Example: I had way too many dreams of tornados ripping threw my home. Now I can control it, even though I can not stop the tonado, all it becomes is a light breeze on the face.

And yes I can feel things in my dream: sand, paper, ice, etc.

Strange but all true.
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Post by: Landrav on July 20, 2007, 02:27:23 am
I may have had a lucid dream once, and after reading wikipedia I think it might have been a cousin of the False Awakening.  I distinctly remembered waking up and going to school, then coming home and going to bed again--a whole day minus the time from about 4 to 10 when I went to bed.  This puts it at about eight hours--a full night's sleep!  I woke up the next day and until lunchtime I believed it was the next calendar day.  Then I figured it out because of the lunch menu.

I might have to actively try lucid dreaming again.
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Post by: kirbs on July 20, 2007, 05:59:31 am
Delliberately ONCE  :cry:

I'd heard of lucid dreaming for about two years now, and over the christmas holidays I decided to find out what it actually was.

Quote
The ability to control one's own dreams


This sparked my interest and at first I'm like: "This is a load of garbage! dreams are random; 'n' you're unconscious!"

This thought later changed to "I might like to give this a try"

A month later I had my first lucid dream (I was in a war and I had a tail  :blush: ) then school came back and I haven't had much time to devote to lucid dreaming anymore. I never thought it would take so much effort.

That doesn't mean they've stopped, they just get less interesting 'cause I don't expect them anymore.  :cry:

Those who are interested in lucid dreaming; the best method I've found (forgot the name) was telling yourself to wake up around 3-4 am over and over before you go to sleep. Then once you do wake up, walk around the house, read about lucid dreaming, think of lucid dreaming and make sure you are fully awake before you try to go back to sleep again.
By now, lucid dreaming should be the only thing on your mind, then you sleep and hopefully, have a lucid dream!  :)
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Post by: Janner on July 20, 2007, 11:25:54 am
oOoOo lucid dreaming. I've been doing that for years. I did many experiments back in the day and I'll write quickly about them.

Right short history.. I suffer from insomnia of hades, when I'm going through a bout of it (usually lasts 3-4 weeks) is when I lucid dream. I tend to do it more in the morning than at night. And I'm almost guaranteed to do it if there's a gently background noise (tv or radio or something)

I found controlling lucid dreams pretty easy, I can change myself, my surroundings, get people to do things the lot. What I can't do is think when I'm dreaming lucidly..

I decided that possibly it'd be an idea to meditate on an idea and even pray while dreaming lucidly. The times I remembered to, I couldn't concentrate enough to hold something in my mind, it'd come and go as fleeting thoughts, which is what dreams are really, since although dreams seem linear when we remember them, truth is they're only a few seconds long and fleet from one thing to another.

Uhh yeah that's about all I have to say hehe
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Post by: Ag. on July 20, 2007, 11:50:19 am
My experiences are in the opposite direction. I very rarely recall even whether or not I have dreams and do not remember the content of my dreams very much.

Part of this is probably due to the fact that for many years I had terrible nightmares. It got to the stage where I either took tranquillisers and was unconscious to get rest or I experienced the nightmares. I exerted control in the only way that turned out to work, I put dreams firmly in the sleeping part of my mind. I understand that I do dream, having slept over at friends' places and such where I have been known to sleep-mumble. But the dreams don't bleed over and nightmares usually just get cut, like stopping a scary movie.

I tend to read or write a few feelgood stories before I turn in for the night - stories focused on frienship or doing something nice to get myself relaxed and settled into a good frame of mind.
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Post by: Mattspew on July 20, 2007, 02:46:27 pm
For me, I just now got into lucid dreaming (finally found a site) And I've already got results! Here's what happened:

Me and a friend (I didn't recognize him) were on a snow covered hill that I live close to, then we slipped and started sliding down it. Then a snowboard suddenly popped onto my feet and I, for some odd reason, was pretty good at riding it! and when I got to the end of the hill, the snow started melting and I walked around and saw my girl-friend with two of her friends (didn't recognize them either). So we went into an abandoned school-bus and played around in it. For some odd reason, she almost cut my arm off with an ax that was in there  :?:

Yes, I am positively weird.  :)
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Post by: Kyotas on July 20, 2007, 05:03:10 pm
Oh hehehe, this reminds me of a lucid dream I had forgotten about :p

A while ago I had a lucid dream that started of normal, just me as my fursona running about in a desert, just because, I like rocky deserts ^^


But later a much weirder series of events too place.

I was within some kind of metropolis, not futurist architecture just many high rise buildings, anyway...

It just seemed like.... an outdoor furmeet nothing strange.....
Other than the fact that a guy was playing final fantasy 7, and instead of playing as cloud he was playing as a pink bunny ^^

Then after a bit of relaxing I got up and starting building things RTS style... then the same guy comes over to be and says...
 'See that tunnel over there?'
*He points to the tunnel*
'The foxes from the other faction like to try and sneak in here through there, I advise you build a point defense turret'
(Stationary gun... thing ^^ )

Then he walks off
And I just remember standing there like..... what did he just say? :p

Thats where the dream ended... not much happened but.... just seemed so random and surreal ^^

Or maybe just because I dont remember my dreams much and this just stands out....
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Post by: Kobo-Kun on July 21, 2007, 12:29:51 am
By the time I realize that I'm dreaming, its usually too late (as in I'm having a nightmare). As for controlling it, that happens randomly.
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Post by: Cobalt on July 21, 2007, 08:55:55 am
I knew someone back when I lived in Michigan who was able to do that kind of thing *very* well, almost on demand when sleeping.

I've been able to do it once or twice but I have to be sleeping very lightly, and the shock of getting it right is usually wakes me up again.
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Post by: Kiboe Motegi on July 22, 2007, 11:35:36 am
tried lucid dreaming, never got it right, i guess its just not my thing
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hanai on July 22, 2007, 08:48:50 pm
When I was younger I'd lucid dream all the time.  Usually I'd go travel/teleport to places I've never been before, flap my arms in order to fly (it looks really weird, but I dunno! I found it cool) or turn myself into a bird or a fox and just explore the land.  I still can  lucid dream sometimes, but it's a rare treat and short-lived.
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Post by: Serra Belvoule on July 22, 2007, 08:52:22 pm
Kinda hard to say I'm "lucid"
Yeah, I get aware of the dream and stuff, but I like to go with the flow, you know? I love dreaming weird, unpredictable stuff.
So I guess it's an unlucid lucidity?
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Post by: Kigurou Sonkei on July 23, 2007, 03:14:29 am
I've been able to do it ONCE whenever I was wee (beat up a blue fuzzy monster... :D ), but since then, nope, never been able to.

Also, I've been trying to follow a guide for it, but this stuff is hard! :shock: Even just trying to write down what your dream was as soon as you wake up is a challenge. Haven't been able to do it, yet. :p




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Post by: kirbs on July 23, 2007, 04:08:54 am
Looks like you're trying to follow the same thing I did. Writing things down helped, but only by keeping your mind on lucid dreaming.

For lucid dreaming to work, I've found that you have to be VERY focused, and spend every waking moment thinking of lucidity... heh. I flunked.
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Post by: Loomy on July 28, 2007, 10:21:37 pm
Hmm,  This is really interesting.  I always control what i do in dreams,  But i never do anything weird because i dont know its a dream.  But even if i figure it out,  i just wake up.

EDIT:  What does happen a lot though is Deja vu.  At least 3 times a week i get it really bad.




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Post by: Gabriel Carver on July 28, 2007, 11:58:16 pm
I haven't had a lucid dream in years. I have dreams sometimes though were I am flying around in the clouds eating cup cakes.
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Post by: Twizler the skunk on July 29, 2007, 12:24:24 am
Iv been asleep and known i was asleep. Iv had nightmare and have woke myself up at times . Kinda a oh ***** wake up wake up moments. But iv never changed a dream. Mostly thies days i dont rember my dreams to well.
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Post by: Scrimno on September 04, 2007, 07:45:39 pm
I used to be really good at lucid dreaming. Coincidentally, I had one last night (A flying dream). I had them most when I wrote them down and made reality checks. In a dream, once I realized I was dreaming, I could wake up, do whatever I wanted, and had super powers. The ability to wake up freed me from my nightmares forever :D  It always took a lot of concentration to transform myself or my surroundings, and most of the time I couldn't do it at all. When I enter a dream, I'm either myself or my fursona and I don't change anything. I just go have fun. I've always had REALLY vivid dreams to the point of hyper-awareness. All the five senses go into overdrive and I obtain somewhat of a sixth, awareness of all around me.  

If you want to try to obtain lucidity in your dreams, here's some tips:
Write your dreams down. I know it's been said several times, but it works. It helps you keep the dream fresh in your mind, helps you recall details of your dream, and trains your mind to retain the dreaming state.
Make reality checks. Several times a day, look closely at an object. Text or a clock work best. If it doesn't look right, or if the words or time look wrong, ask yourself if you might be dreaming, and it will become apparent to you. Soon you'll be able to just ask yourself "Am I dreaming?" and your "sixth sense" will tell you.
Don't pinch yourself. It just hurts.
Let it go. Dreams are brief. If you find yourself doing some menial task, make a reality check. If you're dreaming, drop whatever you're doing and go have some fun!
When you climb into bed, tell yourself you're going to have a lucid dream. Don't focus on any one thing. Let your mind wander where it will. Think about the day's events, or your fursona or whatever. Just keep your mind busy thinking about things. If you're lucky, you might catch the moment when thoughts become pictures.
Plan on sleeping in. Go to bed late so you're genuinely tired, and don't set an alarm. There's nothing more frustrating than being interrupted from a nice lucid dream.

Happy Dreaming!
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Traumerei on September 04, 2007, 08:33:01 pm
I can lucid dream if I get to the point of dreaming. My best advice is to do some sort of 'reality check' whenever you wake up. If it becomes routine enough you will start to do it in your dreams too.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Keryth on September 04, 2007, 10:24:19 pm
Lucid Dreaming, surprisingly i can do this pretty much on demand! Its still weird hen i do lucid dream though, Ill be walking then i decide to fly so I do. It gets even better cuz i can make myself into my fursona too! I cant control the plot of my dream though
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Post by: Holley on September 05, 2007, 03:52:38 am
Once in a while I manage a lucid dream (much less then when I was a kid) ... or maybe I just don't remember them so well.  I can only remember two Furr-ish ones though, one where I was in the garden trying to pounce on my own tail (unsuccessfully) and the other was be wrapped around a sexy black cat lady ... but I won't go into detail there :)
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Post by: Fangz on September 05, 2007, 06:11:02 am
hmm this is interesting, I dream alot at vecations and weekends that I remember when I wake up, any control is rare tho it have happened. Never really looked into this thing but it sounds facinating. Tho normaly in the week I don't have any dreams or don't remember em think it's couse I sleep about 4 hours a night :P hmm I gota look into this stuff
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Post by: D_L_Leonine on September 07, 2007, 09:53:38 am
I trained myself to lucid dream when I was very young.  It's part of the reason I claim to be a lifelong fur.

I had recurring dreams of being chased by a lion and once I learned to lucid dream, I was able to turn and challenge the lion knowing that I was safely dreaming.  The lion befriended me and after that he would sometimes make appearances as a familiar.  Later on I even got to the point where I could summon the creature at will (made some nightmares VERY interesting).

Since I became active in the fandom we have merged into one character and I frequently dream (and are quite aware of it) as an anthro.
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Post by: Kivva on September 07, 2007, 11:57:25 am
My dreams are very rigid, I have never had a dream where I can manipulate it myself.

I have had shifting dreams though, of becoming animals. :)
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Drasune on September 07, 2007, 02:24:05 pm
I've never had a lucid dream, always wanted to though.
At least all my dreams are usually fun and insane (Freud would have a heyday with me (: ).
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Synap on September 12, 2007, 08:39:40 pm
I've trained myself to lucid dream really well, I can manage almost complete control (figured this out in the "I'm so slow but whats chasing me is really fast" dream when I would turn around armed to the teeth.) so all of my dreams have been really furry (and yiffy :blush: ) so I look forward to lights out most of the day
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Holley on September 19, 2007, 04:13:00 am
Had a bizarre semi-lucid dream this morning, and it was all new and with a touch of Furry to boot ... I'll do a cut-down description of the important bits, a psychologist could have a field day with this!

Myself (in Fursona form) and two of my old school friends were in a mall, except that instead of being full of stores there were fairground rides, adventure playgrounds, go karting etc.  We were queing to see the new 3 hour extended edition of Kaze Ghost Warrior, but before being admitted we had to give a sample of blood so they could check if we would have a heart attack during the showing.  
While waiting for the test results we went for a walk but got lost, and ended up outside where a gigantic song & dance routine was being filmed, and everyone was dancing (we joined in but weren't very good, lol).  
Next on the filming schedule was a battle sequence, only all the actors were fighting and dying for real, and we were stuck in the middle of it all.  Having survived that with only minor injuries I then got in a fight with Shredder from TMNT, however I wasn't afraid of him 'cause I had claws :)

And thats when the alarm clock went off!  I know it was lucid since, despite scary / threatening situations I wasn't scared at any point, and a couple of times when the dream was going to a dead end I could 'reset' it and move on to the next thing.

Hope I get another one soon, it was fun! :) Also I got to feel how having a tail helps when you're trying to climb and balance ...




Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kivva on September 19, 2007, 02:35:21 pm
Quote (Holley @ Sep. 19 2007, 4:13 am)
Had a bizarre semi-lucid dream this morning, and it was all new and with a touch of Furry to boot ... I'll do a cut-down description of the important bits, a psychologist could have a field day with this!

Myself (in Fursona form) and two of my old school friends were in a mall, except that instead of being full of stores there were fairground rides, adventure playgrounds, go karting etc.  We were queing to see the new 3 hour extended edition of Kaze Ghost Warrior, but before being admitted we had to give a sample of blood so they could check if we would have a heart attack during the showing.  
While waiting for the test results we went for a walk but got lost, and ended up outside where a gigantic song & dance routine was being filmed, and everyone was dancing (we joined in but weren't very good, lol).  
Next on the filming schedule was a battle sequence, only all the actors were fighting and dying for real, and we were stuck in the middle of it all.  Having survived that with only minor injuries I then got in a fight with Shredder from TMNT, however I wasn't afraid of him 'cause I had claws :)

And thats when the alarm clock went off!  I know it was lucid since, despite scary / threatening situations I wasn't scared at any point, and a couple of times when the dream was going to a dead end I could 'reset' it and move on to the next thing.

Hope I get another one soon, it was fun! :) Also I got to feel how having a tail helps when you're trying to climb and balance ...

I'm so jealous of you!!!!

I want to Battle Shredder!!!

*gives you the cold shoulder*
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Holley on September 19, 2007, 05:16:57 pm
:(

Glad I know you're only kidding :)
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: silverfox on September 19, 2007, 06:43:01 pm
How odd... I started getting into this just before I came across this thread :P

Yeah, I will say that it can be mentally exhausting (especially after 4-5 nights in a row  :dead: ).  Still haven't quite gotten control over it yet, but the night is never boring... so far it's been like a bad game of CS every night... Oh well, can't succeed every night.

Last night, however, was one of my most interesting... I was trying to escape from some people (gang related?), wound up getting them to trust me, then I started to get some control over what was going on... I was wearing a collar and my tail (and for some reason a hat (: ) , then I woke up...  Just couldn't stay asleep long enough.  The only downside is that I was extremely tired.

I'm sure the method I'm using to "train" my mind for this is questionable at best, but it's working so far  :cool:
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Post by: Keryth on September 19, 2007, 06:45:48 pm
Lucid dreaming is one of the most fun things there is whilst sleeping. I taught myself already how to lucid dream on demand *meditation helps that by far*. The two best things i can do in lucid dreams are make myself into my fursona *even though im already in every dream anyway*, and fly. Although flying took time to learn how to do in lucid dreaming. The only thing about lucid dreaming is that you cant alter the scenario of your dream, or at least I cant. One of my lucid dreams, i was my fursona *of course :D * and there was another anthro and we were in the middle of some grassland area when a space craft slammed into the ground and a huge haloish dude came out, then the other anthro and i fought it, won, then an army of anthros ran by towards an army of humans and it got pretty graphic after that. The anthros won, but then everything went ultra bright and i woke up.
Title: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Cocheto on September 19, 2007, 10:55:25 pm
I'm pretty good about remembering dreams... I usually have 2-3 a week that I vividly remember. I even had one last night:P
I have been trying to "train" myself to lucid dream. Heh, whoever you are, furry or not, the idea seems pretty awsome. But I keep getting sidetracked with thoughts while I'm falling asleep, and I haven't had a succesfull lucid dream yet. At least not one I can remember. Oh well, practice makes perfect.
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Post by: Rhyolite on September 20, 2007, 02:45:02 pm
Never been able to control a dream, they always play out as if things are happening anyway, like watching a video with no input, so no lucid dreams for me. I was able to do a full astral projection, once. That was ages go and for a few seconds only but even after a couple of decades I can still remember every detail with pinsharp accuracy.



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Post by: --Rizu-- on September 22, 2007, 01:13:02 am
I had a dream a few nights ago which probably could have been lucid had I done some sort of reality check. Its a long story, but I dreamed going through a whole day of classes. It was kinda a let down when i discovered it was a dream.
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Post by: Edward Vulpes on September 23, 2007, 02:46:57 pm
I had a strange dream just last night that was oddly lucid, even by my standards. At any rate, I found myself in the form of a completely zoomorphic fox, a black bow tie and pair of spectacles being my only real adornment. I do not remember precisely how I came to this, but I found myself entering a Pokemon tournament on Pokemon Battle Revolution in a large, lighted stadium (don't ask- delusions of grandeur). My fox form really didn't come into play for any pratical purposes for the dream, as I was mainly focused on my next move and trying to call up numbers and statistics in my REM state. Yes, I play Pokemon in my sleep. I can't remember a play-by-play of any of the matches exactly, but I do remember that the last team I played before awakening contained an Empoleon and Gardevoir, both of which fell to my Pikachu's Volt Tackle. I received a bunch of grapes as a prize, and spent the rest of the dream being chased by people who wanted the grapes.

...I just said it was lucid, I didn't say it made sense.




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Post by: wulf_star on October 24, 2007, 09:09:17 pm
sorry to bring up an old topic but how long has it taken for all the people who couldn't do it, to learn how?  :D
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Post by: Ginny on November 06, 2007, 05:15:35 pm
Depends on the person, Wulf.  The best way is to take it slow, learn how your own subconscious works, and get used to it.  Ease into everything slowly.
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Post by: Keryth on November 06, 2007, 05:24:22 pm
Quote (wulf_star @ Oct. 24 2007, 8:09 pm)
sorry to bring up an old topic but how long has it taken for all the people who couldn't do it, to learn how?  :D

Try this. Meditate, a lot, try to wake up yourself in your sleep until you feel conscious in your dream, try to fly in your dream-how i can tell if im lucid dreaming, go to sleep while thinking or contemplating something-like make up a plot and make a story in your mind off it. Thats all the ways i could think of, im sure there are other ways.
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Post by: hd25 on November 06, 2007, 05:59:14 pm
I've never been in control of my dreams (when I have them, not that often since I'm not usually in that deep sleep); I've been aware that I was dreaming and tried to wake myself up (usually in nightmares) but without prevail.

btw that whole thing that you can't die in your dreams? It's true - I've had a few nightmares that I wake up right before I hit the dirt.
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Post by: Keryth on November 06, 2007, 06:20:12 pm
Quote (hd25 @ Nov. 06 2007, 4:59 pm)
I've never been in control of my dreams (when I have them, not that often since I'm not usually in that deep sleep); I've been aware that I was dreaming and tried to wake myself up (usually in nightmares) but without prevail.

btw that whole thing that you can't die in your dreams? It's true - I've had a few nightmares that I wake up right before I hit the dirt.

oh you can die . . . you can die . . . I remember not but a week ago I dreampt I was shot in the gut, VERY VERY painful when lucid dreaming i can tell you, but I died and the pain was gone, and I was an anthro in another world. Odd heaven eh? You have a less chance of falling and waking in dreams if you can fly  :D  ! Yea but hitting the ground happened to me as well.
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Post by: Ormspryde on November 07, 2007, 05:26:22 pm
I lucid dream every so often.  Sometimes, I leave my body - sometimes, I can shift my shape, too.  Twice I've dreamed I was a dragon - once, I shifted shape into the form, once, I just 'popped' into dragonform to fight a sea serpent.  (?)
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Post by: Dex01 on December 21, 2007, 05:41:49 pm
never had lucid dreams but I've had thoughts such as "when I wake up I need to finish my CAD coursework for next week"  whilst dreaming which was rather odd  :D



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Post by: Magical_HATz on December 21, 2007, 06:38:44 pm
:/ I can never remember my dreams if I even do dream. Anything that triggers that? Do you tend to dream better when tired or have energy before you sleep?
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Post by: Nikko on December 22, 2007, 05:35:27 am
(:  I have had a few lucid dreams, and yes they were furry. My wife was the victim of my last one though. I woke up after I was in a fight with an alpha male cat just as my wife was leaning over to kiss me before she left for work... imagine the look on her face when I sprang up and yelled as loud as I could... and I sleep next to a loaded gun and a big knife... Good thing I snapped too.  

 ----=Nikko=----
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Post by: Jinjo on December 22, 2007, 11:39:45 am
I've also had a few lucid dreams... but I can never turn into my fursona- only something more realistic. I've had numerous ones of being a coyote, horse and once a mouse (which was scary being so small).

I view my fursona as cartoonish. Therefore I don't think I can get that cartoon figure to become me. :/
The brain is a weird thing...
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Post by: Holley on December 24, 2007, 04:07:20 pm
Well since my last post I've had a bunch of lucid dreams, but they've all revolved around sex, lol.  Guess my mind is trying to tell me something ...
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Post by: Siabus on December 24, 2007, 08:46:36 pm
I cant lucid dream per se, but I can get totally lost in a fantasy while im in bed, half asleep. It's the best. In my fantasy, it seems completely real.  (:
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Post by: me1234 on January 21, 2008, 07:42:42 pm
ahh, I always referred to them as astral projections but generally same concept...

I was told long ago by a very spiritual friend of mine that you could find your spirit animal/totem while doing this. although if thats true the only animals I remember during these experiences were white dragons and deer..hmm...:)
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Post by: wulfstar on March 07, 2008, 09:34:44 pm
Has anyone heard of Silene Capensis? One of my friends told me about this when i was complaining about not remembering my dreams.  :)
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Post by: pandora on March 11, 2008, 04:37:15 pm
I used to have lucid dreams now and again, but with my life sucking so much I've been too depressed to do that sort of thing. It just seems so pointless and I haven't got the energy to even hope for something to happen. I would like to get better at lucid dreaming. What bothers me the worst is that the rare times I do become lucid, I immediately wake up. It's like I can't even allow myself that happiness. :( Just compulsive and stupid feeling, I'm always instantly regretful but only after I've woken up. I wish I wouldn't wake up at all.
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Post by: McMajik on March 26, 2008, 07:13:32 pm
I don't become lucid in dreams often, but when i do, I always turn into something else. Its great, but i rarely become lucid in dreams. Either that, or i forget them by the time i wake up. :'(
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Post by: Vivi on April 02, 2008, 07:11:34 pm
I have lucid dreams all of the time. Although I have found that you can almost never full control the dream, and you can never control it like you wished you could after you are awake. I guess my brain isn't functioning fully enough to do things my conscious mind wants to. ANYWAY I use these dreams for spiritual pursuits. I've never actually considered trying to <i>become</i> my fursona during this. I have become various animals, just not anthro forms. But now that the idea has occurred to me I want to do it.
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Post by: dakota davies on May 13, 2008, 09:34:47 pm
i used to have lucid dreaming fairly often, but latley i havent been dreaming at all :(
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Post by: promagnum on May 13, 2008, 10:58:29 pm
I don't have many lucid dreams, but I do have really strange ones.

One I even wrote down what happened in it WHILE I WAS SLEEPING. Needless to say, I wrote the dream as a ten page story. XD
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Post by: McMajik on May 15, 2008, 04:47:11 pm
Wait, did you dream of writing it or did you actually sleep-walk-write it whine dreaming. Because that'd be amazing.
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Post by: Kaloth on May 17, 2008, 01:38:00 pm
I learned to lucid dream through psionics. And because of this I have complete control over everything in my dreams. This is not so much because I can directly control everything it is more because a lucid dream amplifies my powers. I have only had a very few morphing dreams (i usually use them to test if I can do something with a power, as I don't change anything except how much skill and or power I have.) My most recent test involved me trying to slow my heart to where it becomes inperceptable. I acchieved it but over shot and stopped my heart in the dream which woke me up with a terrible chest pain.  x_x
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Post by: Kudos on July 03, 2008, 06:15:22 pm
ummm i'll dream maybe 1 time every other month if i'm lucky  >:( and iv'e had plenty of probs so u think it would come out in a dream

but when i do i have total control.

nobody ever seems to have any answers for the dream thing...EVERYONE calls me wierd on that one.
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Post by: Luku on July 19, 2008, 01:20:47 pm
I used to have lucid dreams when I was a kid, they grew less frequent as I grew older. I barely dream at all anymore, and when I do it's about something boring like work. Haven't had a proper furry dream for, like, ten years. :(

Although recently a quick bit of lucid dreaming helped me to (finally) get over a recurring nightmare. Yay!

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Post by: Baako on July 19, 2008, 02:04:21 pm
I don't know whats wrong with me but my sleep style is rather... odd.
According to some people who have seen me sleep over at sleepovers or w/e say that I'm quite dexterous in my sleep (for example picking up my coat and putting it on) but I never dream.... or at least I never remember them, this led me to believe that I was having a hard time getting REM sleep, but once I am actually asleep NOTHING can wake me, I sleep through thunderstorms and fireworks, people would be able to come into my room, switch on my computer and play some music and I would not wake up  :D

So in the end I dunno whats wrong with me... I'm a heavy sleeper but I don't dream (:
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Post by: Duffman! on July 19, 2008, 02:52:21 pm
I don't know whats wrong with me but my sleep style is rather... odd.
According to some people who have seen me sleep over at sleepovers or w/e say that I'm quite dexterous in my sleep (for example picking up my coat and putting it on) but I never dream.... or at least I never remember them, this led me to believe that I was having a hard time getting REM sleep, but once I am actually asleep NOTHING can wake me, I sleep through thunderstorms and fireworks, people would be able to come into my room, switch on my computer and play some music and I would not wake up  :D

So in the end I dunno whats wrong with me... I'm a heavy sleeper but I don't dream (:

Yeah, one he sat up, adjusted his pillow, then lay back down, whilst practically buttoning his coat  :o *scared*

I get by on little sleep. I generally get to bed at 12-1 and wake up about 5. Normally this is good, as i get a lie in before i have to get up for school.
Atm, with the summer holz, i am becoming slightly nocturnal, staying up til ungodly hours, and waking up at about 12, if i allow myself the luxary of a lie in.
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Post by: Kaloth on July 19, 2008, 05:50:56 pm
I had my first lucid dream, that I didn't control every aspect of, and it reminded me of the insanity within the fandom. First I was talking to my fursona, when suddenly he grew two extra heads. After a few more moments of talking to it, one of the heads became a dragon head. I commented on this and my fursona sort of... popped. Now there was a dragon standing there trying to eat me, so I opened a spellbook and cast sleep on it. Then I picked up a javalin, that was conveniently right next to my hand, and went to slay the beast, which turned into a large gelatinous cube. Let me just say, very exhilarating
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Post by: Duffman! on July 19, 2008, 05:57:09 pm
My only understanding of the term, "Lucid dream" is once when i was half awake, half asleep, and everything went perfectly. I could think completely clearly, and randomly, new thoughts would pop into my head, like ice cubes in the sea that was my mind. The world was crystal clear, even through my eyelids, and i felt completly happy (:. Twoz nice :)
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Post by: Kudos on July 19, 2008, 06:09:10 pm
Sometimes when i dream (the few times that i do dream) i'll have thought about what's going to happen in my day. As if i where awake going over my plans, when i'm actually taking part in my dream. While in my dream i may be trying to get away from something (i have more nightmarish style dreams then good ones). All the while i'll be like "ok where low on bread so i should get some of that today" well something like that lol.

anyone else get these wierd happenings in their dreams. :o
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Post by: Duffman! on July 19, 2008, 06:12:03 pm
Sometimes when i dream (the few times that i do dream) i'll have thought about what's going to happen in my day. As if i where awake going over my plans, when i'm actually taking part in my dream. While in my dream i may be trying to get away from something (i have more nightmarish style dreams then good ones). All the while i'll be like "ok where low on bread so i should get some of that today" well something like that lol.

anyone else get these wierd happenings in their dreams. :o

You mean like premonitions? I used to get those *shudders*. Pretty scary crap, but useful. Foresaw a huge, and fatal argument, and turned it aside, by keeping to people seperate for the day :D. Oh yeah, i rule! XD
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Post by: Kudos on July 19, 2008, 08:22:14 pm
no not preminations, it's my own thoughts. kinda like if u
the thoughts are nowhere's related, like one time i had one of those flying dreams (one of those funny gotta kick yer feet to fly dreams lol), and i was thinking about how i may had to strip down completely for wrestling weigh ins, and how that was going to suck (i'm a very private person lol). i was actually hearing what i was thinking, kinda wierd and like always nobody ever knows what i'm talking about. (:
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Post by: Duffman! on July 19, 2008, 08:25:49 pm
So you hear your own thoughts in the dream, as if some one is shouting them at you?
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Post by: Kudos on July 19, 2008, 08:41:43 pm
no kinda like think to yer self right now...just like that.

i know because it often happens when there is nobody to shout at me.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Duffman! on July 19, 2008, 08:43:34 pm
Oh, sounds like normal thinking to me....

....But then again, i think different to other people, so maybe its just that we're special :D
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Post by: Kudos on July 19, 2008, 09:05:13 pm
Oh, sounds like normal thinking to me....

....But then again, i think different to other people, so maybe its just that we're special :D

Yea but why something like that in such a unrelated situation?

Yup, well aren't furs already special 8)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 13, 2008, 09:24:36 pm
lataly I've been having trouble remembering my dream goals.
I think its because of my messed up sleep schedule causing me to have only partial lucids.

I post my dream journals where I've had the frame of mind to attempt transformation. I'll cut to the parts about the tail.

My first movable tail in a dream was a long time ago.

I was in the Pokemon world as my own creation. I was myself with lightning attacks and 2 tails like that of Raichu.
 I remember that I could move them as If they were always a part of me. But the weirdest part was when I grabbed one of my tails and I felt my hand with the tail which was enough of a shock to wake me up.


First lucid attempt at a tail.

I realized that I had been dreaming for a while so it was about time to try something that could wake me up. I would try to grow a tail. I thought about what it would look like and act like. I put my hand where it would grow but all i felt was this really bony extension of my tail bone. A few seconds later I woke up.

second lucid attempt

 I immediately start work on the tail again. This time I got an actual tail but it was way to small and uncontrollable. It was moving though but it was moving on its own. I tried to make It better by imagining how it would work and the right size but since I had been dreaming for so long, The dream ended before I could continue.

furry dreams

Recently I've been having slightly furry dreams, And I feel like sharing them. I think there kinda funny. It's like my dream sign has changed to any thing furry.

First In the dream.
I'm walking down my old road wearing my digigrade shoes and testing them out. When I'm walking with them I feel faster than normal. After a while of walking I try running, But I feel sorta off balance. I try running as if they were just long feet and that sorta worked.

Here's the second
I don't remember what I was doing but that I had bought a collar to wear.
I was waring like a belt for some reason, But I knew it was a caller. It was a really nice black leather with a shinny chrome buckle, along with having a thin layer of foam on the inside for added comfort. Near the end of the dream I decided to take the caller of and put it around my neck where it belonged, but I don't remember putting it on and I think the dream ended right there.

And the third had to do with my going to a store to buy foam to start work on my fursuit head.

This definitely shows how my mind set has changed since becoming full on furry.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Timberwuff on November 13, 2008, 11:35:26 pm
That's all very interesting! I've only had a tail in 2 dreams, but it was my home-made tail and I was just wearing it. Fun none-the less. Not lucid either btw... still working on that as much as I can. : /
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 13, 2008, 11:56:56 pm
since I've been getting alot of questions about lucid dreaming I'm going to put down about all you need to know toachieve your first lucid with a furry twist.

so here goes

I love telling people about this sort of thing. It's kind of where my expertize lies.

Super epic post

Start off with a dream goal. something you want to do. Since you said become a furry I'll work with that.

Alright I'm going to start off at the beginning.

First thing to do to start the process it to begin a dream journal.
You right down your dreams in as best detail as you can.

After a while of doing this, you can look through you dream journal. I'll felp you with this part.
You try to find anything in common. These will be you dream signs.

They could be anything. I.E. emotions, places, people, things, powers, anything

When you find your dreamsigns ( Its not always 1), If you lucky enough to have one that happens in real life I want you to perfome what is called a reality check. I'll explain.

A reality check is something you do to make sure your dreaming these include.

pushing your finger through the palm. In the dream your hand should streatch like rubber or you finger could just go through your hand.

try counting your fingers. In the dream you might have move than five, less than five, they could be disfigured, or be something totally different.

My favorite
you look at a digital clock. It should be going crazy. the numbers could be letters, or there could be 20 digits in the clock all moving and changing.
This one looks really cool

plug you nose and try to breath through it. In the dream since your real hand isn't covering your nose you can breath through it just fine. This is a very strange feeling.

Look at the ground. In the dream It should look different than it normally does. Like its made out of the wrong material.

I came up with this one
Bite your tongue. Since your in the dream world your experience no pain so your tongue should feel numb, You would only be experiencing the pressure not the pain.

Try to read something. In the dream world words look a little like the clock does. Like there constantly changing.

Look in a mirror. In the dream world mirrors don't seem to work right. It'll look like there all dirty and the image is blurry, or just not you in the mirror.

Try to change the light levels. For some reason in the dream world the light level stays the same. Light switches don't work.

Try jumping. In the dream world you should float back down , or hover , heck you might even fly.

Now the true power of these is using them in groups of 3 to. That way if one says your awake for some reason the others will prove your sleeping.
In the real world all of these will tell you your awake but in the dream world they might fail.

Now that is the easiest way to get a lucid.
I'll get into the other techniques if you really want to know about them.


this is how all of this should work.

Your having a dream with one of your dream signs in it and you relies hay this is a dream sign I'll perfume some reality checks.

After you perform your reality checks and they confirm you dreaming what do you want to do.

Since your dream goal is becoming a furry I'll start there.

Find your self a door any way you can.

Now when your at the door imagine a world where all the people are anthro's
Try saying out loud "this door will take me and bring me into the world of furry's" now when your done saying this but still thinking about it.

OPEN THE DOOR

As you enter the doorway you are transformed into your fursona and you walk into the world of furries.

Congratulations your now your fursons Go commingle with your brethren.


Hopefully this will get you to have that perfect lucid.

If you can I know of a great lucid dreaming website that lets you Write down your dreams in there online dream journal. Make sure to tell me if you join to I can give you a http://www.dreamviews.com/ welcome I;m trying not to advertise this place but it does help out alot.

 
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaloth on November 14, 2008, 03:55:54 pm
Hmmm, I forgot about this thread, but I was looking through my dream journal recently and remembered my last lucid dream. About 2 weeks ago I had a lucid dream and out of curiosity decided to try to shift to my fursona. It worked fine and as easy as I thought it would be to control the dream. But after a while, I felt like I was missing something by holding control for so long, as my subconscious is always more creative than me. So I let the dream take control back, and well I stayed in my fursona form for another few seconds and returned to my usual fantasy world setting where I play whatever kind of character I feel like at that moment.

While I always lucid dream or don't remember them, recently I have been using them to look inward, because I have been going through some things and need some personal insight to make it through it.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 14, 2008, 08:21:50 pm
Its very cool that you can control it so easily. I myself am still working on it lately but due to what ever reason I'm having trouble sleeping lately along with having only semi lucids. I hope this will end soon.
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Post by: Salem on November 15, 2008, 09:51:57 am
It's even more impressive when you can pull it off while fully awake. ;D
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 15, 2008, 10:12:47 am
It's even more impressive when you can pull it off while fully awake. ;D

now that would be impressive.
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Post by: Wolvenblaze on November 15, 2008, 01:07:05 pm
Cool, so you can alter the amount of control you have over your lucid dreams?  Having absolute god-like control over dreams would be awesome and infinitely fun, but I would also like to be placed into scenarios out of my control, yet have control over my own actions and thoughts.  That's one reason why I would never give up living in the real world in exchange for an eternal fantasy -- there's just so much you CAN'T control, which makes it ever so interesting.  If you can do this in your dreams, then it would be better than reading!
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Timberwuff on November 15, 2008, 02:13:26 pm
I think it's a bit much to say "god-like" control over dreams. But in a sense that's true I suppose. I just like how it gives you the ability to try out possible scenarios, to a certain realistic extent. It's also just simply sounds like a whole world of fun! :)

I've managed to have dreams where I've stopped time and teleported around and such! It would be a lot more fun if I could control that now wouldn't it?! ;)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 15, 2008, 03:29:53 pm
there are so many possibilities to explore, as wolvenblaze said you can have god like control but also just put yourself in scenarios that you would like to experience.

As in my lucid tutorial. you can imagine a door with what ever world you wanted on the other side, and when you walk through it your in the world with all of its laws or lack or laws.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Chayst Shade on November 19, 2008, 10:00:17 pm
Good tutorial. Ultimately it comes down to will power. If you believe without a doubt you will have a lucid dream, you will have one. If you believe without a doubt you can do anything you want in a dream, you can do it. Building up this confidence is what the technques are for.

As for you reality check when you bite your tongue, I've come to realize, and others have agreed with me, that reality checks that involve pain are not completely reliable. It IS possible to feel pain in a dream if you expect it to happen.
So the whole pinch me I must be dreaming thing doesn't always work. ;) I know, I've tried.

When I get some spare time, I'll write up some transformation tutorials.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaloth on November 19, 2008, 10:16:28 pm
I had an odd experience with a lucid dream recently.

I keep a dream journal so that I can record and recollect everything that happens in my dreams. Well recently they have been increasingly prophetic, by this I mean that recently my dreams are coming true. An example of this is I will have a dream about a conversation, and then wrte it down in my journal. The next day ( or a few days) I will be in a conversation and it will sound familiar. I check my journal and lo and behold, word for word with what the person says.

Anyways back to my lucid dream story. A few days ago I had a dream, and eventually during it I became aware that it was a dream. I remained in a normal everyday situation but decided to flex my powers by causing minor changes to the way people react to me. Well today I was sitting on the bus behind one of the people I "altered" in my dream. He turned around and started talking to me, and it was word for word what I had in my journal.

Needless to say, I am VERY creeped out right now.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 19, 2008, 10:25:13 pm
Good tutorial. Ultimately it comes down to will power. If you believe without a doubt you will have a lucid dream, you will have one. If you believe without a doubt you can do anything you want in a dream, you can do it. Building up this confidence is what the technques are for.

As for you reality check when you bite your tongue, I've come to realize, and others have agreed with me, that reality checks that involve pain are not completely reliable. It IS possible to feel pain in a dream if you expect it to happen.
So the whole pinch me I must be dreaming thing doesn't always work. ;) I know, I've tried.

When I get some spare time, I'll write up some transformation tutorials.

I have had the bite you tongue fail in the past but the true effectiveness of reality checks occurs when using a lot of them in a row. that way if one fails the rest will hopefull work.

As for the part about believing you will have a lucid only work on those that are suseptable to auto suggestion. for the rest of us it  takes time and practice.


As for dream prophecies. I'm not very well versed in that area. But from a skeptics point you can find anything if you look closely enough.
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Post by: Feathertail on November 19, 2008, 11:40:24 pm
I kind of prefer daydreaming. It leads to stories which I can write down and share with others. ^.^;
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kris on November 19, 2008, 11:49:41 pm
I'm only lucky enough to have a Lucid dream once in every couple of months, but each of the last few times have been as an anthro being in the dream itself.  I do my best to write down the dream asap after waking up from one.  While I'm more partial to daydreaming, lucid dreams are always awesome when they happen, though most dreams of mine are simply like watching a show. 

My most recent was this past Saturday morning.  I got a (perceived) 20 minutes or so of control in the dream, which is -way- more than usual (3-5 minutes or so).  I seem to only have lucid dreams on that razor-thin line between REM sleep and being awake.  Which makes sense since conscious control over your body is gone as soon as you hit REM. 
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 12:05:19 am
I'm only lucky enough to have a Lucid dream once in every couple of months, but each of the last few times have been as an anthro being in the dream itself.

cool on being an anthro.
did you have complete control over the tail and ears or was it like wearing a fursuit?

Do you have lucids randomly or are you trying to have them?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kris on November 20, 2008, 12:34:32 am
cool on being an anthro.
did you have complete control over the tail and ears or was it like wearing a fursuit?

Do you have lucids randomly or are you trying to have them?

In the dreams (esp. the most recent) I had full control over myself.  The environment changed on it's own accord as the dream progressed, but I was still getting input from my body and the environment (footpaws through snow felt kinda cool)  I 'felt' everything, but again that's my brain doing it's best to make up sensory input for what it thinks fur/tail/ears/snout would feel like.  I'll admit, it felt cool, I just wish dreams like this lasted longer. 

The frequency of my dreams appears to be random.  I often fall asleep thinking about things like anthro characters or what not, but pre-sleep thoughts rarely carry over into a dream, Saturday being an exception.  My mind is a messed up place as-is, so I'm not really privvy on trying to induce things like hypnotism and lucid dreams, I just enjoy the random lucid dreams as they happen.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kay Alett on November 20, 2008, 12:44:36 am
I had a dream the other night that I had partialy control of.
I was on an island where this princess was undergoing some sort of ceremony that I was a part of, I know I'm not an important person so finding out I was in the ceremony made me realise I was dreaming. (Hows that for a sense of self worth?) To make a very long story short there were complications and I wound up in quite a few fights, however instead of being able to fly I could only glide.

I strongly remember mimicking a bird when gliding because I couldn't just 'take off' so I'd think of a bird jumping off and gliding down and thats what I'd do, I'd spread my arms like wings and leap, then tuck my legs close to my body and I glide, I even managed to fly a little by flapping my arms.

I wish I could fly like superman, but my logical mind won't let me. So I must abide by the rules of birds when flying in my dreams. :'(

At least it was a fun dream.
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Post by: Timberwuff on November 20, 2008, 12:47:04 am
I know I'm not an important person so finding out I was in the ceremony made me realise I was dreaming. (Hows that for a sense of self worth?)

Awww, that's hilarious, and sad! :(
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 12:48:55 am
I had a dream the other night that I had partialy control of.
I was on an island where this princess was undergoing some sort of ceremony that I was a part of, I know I'm not an important person so finding out I was in the ceremony made me realise I was dreaming. (Hows that for a sense of self worth?) To make a very long story short there were complications and I wound up in quite a few fights, however instead of being able to fly I could only glide.

I strongly remember mimicking a bird when gliding because I couldn't just 'take off' so I'd think of a bird jumping off and gliding down and thats what I'd do, I'd spread my arms like wings and leap, then tuck my legs close to my body and I glide, I even managed to fly a little by flapping my arms.

I wish I could fly like superman, but my logical mind won't let me. So I must abide by the rules of birds when flying in my dreams. :'(

At least it was a fun dream.


congratulations on the lucid now the next step is more controle and better powers.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 12:53:04 am
cool on being an anthro.
did you have complete control over the tail and ears or was it like wearing a fursuit?

Do you have lucids randomly or are you trying to have them?

In the dreams (esp. the most recent) I had full control over myself.  The environment changed on it's own accord as the dream progressed, but I was still getting input from my body and the environment (footpaws through snow felt kinda cool)  I 'felt' everything, but again that's my brain doing it's best to make up sensory input for what it thinks fur/tail/ears/snout would feel like.  I'll admit, it felt cool, I just wish dreams like this lasted longer. 

That's very cool that you had complete control. That's my current goal. I think I've been going about the transformation the hard way. I should try complete transformation instead of a bunch of partials.  P.S. you can increase the length with a few techniques.

Like if you feel the dream failing yell out clarity or rub your hands together. These will help in prolonging the dream.

P.S. sorry for double post
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Post by: Kris on November 20, 2008, 01:06:52 am
While I'm not familiar with how you're going about inducing lucid dreaming, I think with some time and a little patience, you'll achieve your goal. 

I s'pose it comes easy for myself as I've been daydreaming about Anthro beings and the such since I was 6, but I think you'll hit your goal with the results you want and then some, if you don't try to force it.  Just visualize what you want to be, and let your mind take it from there  (:
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 01:11:35 am
While I'm not familiar with how you're going about inducing lucid dreaming, I think with some time and a little patience, you'll achieve your goal. 

I s'pose it comes easy for myself as I've been daydreaming about Anthro beings and the such since I was 6, but I think you'll hit your goal with the results you want and then some, if you don't try to force it.  Just visualize what you want to be, and let your mind take it from there  (:

I've only been daydreaming and thinking about anthros for a couple years so you have experience and knowledge on your side, but I am confident that the next full lucid I have I will achieve my goal.
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Post by: Kay Alett on November 20, 2008, 01:14:36 am
I can't NOT lucid dream, it's almost impossible for me. My dreams are indistinguishable from reality, I can even read in my dreams and feel pain as real as I can in reality. I was once in a dream where I was in the Civil War and got thrown by a canon blast, I woke up and was in terrible pain all over my body.

My sense of touch is very strong and if I go numb in a dream it scares me enough that I immediately wake up.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 01:18:26 am
My dreams are indistinguishable from reality, I can even read in my dreams and feel pain as real as I can in reality. I was once in a dream where I was in the Civil War and got thrown by a canon blast, I woke up and was in terrible pain all over my body.

My sense of touch is very strong and if I go numb in a dream it scares me enough that I immediately wake up.

I've had dream where I felt my surroundings but had no pain.
You don't have to be numb.
 I'll ask for some help with this from the ones I learned from. I should have a solution rather quickly.
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Post by: Kay Alett on November 20, 2008, 10:46:29 am
Solution? You make it sound as if it were a problem. I enjoy my dreams being constatly lucid in this way, it's not a problem. I was simply makeing a statement, but I appreciate that you seem concerned. :)
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 12:18:06 pm
O

The way you said it made it sound like the pain was a problem since it could be so bad.


Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kay Alett on November 20, 2008, 12:43:09 pm
Nah, I'm used to it.  :) ;)
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 01:31:44 pm
I've edited my lucid attempt post to include any furry related dreams I've had lately. I think there kinda funny.
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Post by: Rick Woods on November 20, 2008, 09:33:02 pm
Good call on the nose-holding reality check.  I *really* like that one and I'll have to try it.

For dream journals, what do people do usually?  I've heard some sources say you should try to wake yourself up during REM (with an alarm), jot down a few notes, and then fall back to sleep and you should drop right back into REM.  But maybe you just write down stuff in the morning?
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 20, 2008, 09:39:38 pm
Try writing down everything about the dream as soon as you wake up.
This teaches your brain that you want to remember them, This will cause your dream recall to increase.
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Post by: howodd on November 21, 2008, 01:15:09 am
^ writing down your dreams as soon as you wake up is a really good idea to help with dream recall.  i kept a dream journal for a while, & i got really good at this.

i should start doing it again, though, as i have had problems recently remembering my dreams.

i've been lucid dreaming since i was very, very young.  i think the fact that i was raised pagan with a native american grandmother really contributed to this, because all of the women in my family either lucid dream really frequently, or have dreams that end up coming true shortly after. 

from what i've read & exerienced, it isn't really all that uncommon for people to transform into animals or animal-like creatures in lucid dreams.  the trick is learning control.  i've had several lucid dreams in which i started out as an animal, but i haven't been able to actually control any kind of transformation.

one of the things that helps me pretty much guarentee a lucid dream experience is deep meditation before i fall asleep.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 21, 2008, 01:24:45 am
You sound really lucky to have so many lucid dreamers around you to help you learn.
I've only had a few before really getting into it and learning as much as I can.

I have heard that mediation really help but I as of yet have not learned how.

I have attempted transformation a couple of times in my most fully aware lucids.
I have been having a problem with my sleep cycle lately and that has been messing up my lucid rythem.

I am rather confident that my next full lucid I will achieve my goal to the fullest.
I've been practicing what I will do and how it will work in my head for some time. So I have the utmost confidence that It will all go off without a hitch.

I've been learning as much as I can on the subject of lucid dreaming and my lucid frequency and control have skyrocketed.

Now if I can just get lucid in the first place. All my normal dream signs have changed so that has been screwing up my normal techniques.

 
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Post by: howodd on November 21, 2008, 04:22:53 pm
one meditation exercise that works for me is to picture yourself turning into a tree, like your feet turning into roots & your arms turning into branches.  as you breathe in, your branches/arms get bigger & as you breathe out your roots get deeper.  basically, this just makes your mind focus on your breathing & gives you an image to focus on so that you fall into the trance state.  :)
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 21, 2008, 04:47:41 pm
Thank you for the info I'll have to try that some time.  :)
 Do you have any other advise on meditation. I gladly take all you can give. :)
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Post by: howodd on November 21, 2008, 10:05:40 pm
actually, if you want good info on meditation exercises, you can look up information on what pagans call "grounding."  some of the "idiots guide to..." books that address pagan things really, really have solid information about that. 

if you want, i'm pretty good friends with my head priestess & she knows a ton of meditation exercises.  i could ask her for a couple others that she uses.

the tree one is a really common one in the pagan community, though.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 21, 2008, 10:09:41 pm
actually, if you want good info on meditation exercises, you can look up information on what pagans call "grounding."  some of the "idiots guide to..." books that address pagan things really, really have solid information about that. 

if you want, i'm pretty good friends with my head priestess & she knows a ton of meditation exercises.  i could ask her for a couple others that she uses.

the tree one is a really common one in the pagan community, though.

Thanks for the info.
That would be great to get some different types to try out.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Wolvenblaze on November 21, 2008, 11:37:08 pm
Taking all of the advice discussed in this thread and various PMs I'm grateful for, I've been trying my utmost to start lucid dreaming.  Unfortunately, something is stopping me from even getting started.

I began a dream journal a week ago, but a week ago is about when I stopped.  I have (and always had) very restless sleeps, not to mention naturally terrible dream recall, so when  I tried writing down what I could remember, there was almost nothing.  Events that happen have almost no continuity at all (true instance: painting the necks of ducks purple immediately shifted to discussing vacations with Johnny Bravo with no transition whatsoever), so it's almost impossible to put them into words.  I can only recall overlying "feelings" or "ambiances" that I wake up with, barely complimented by vague explanations of what may have happened in the dream.  So I basically gave up for now.

I know the more I try to recall the better I get, but I was wondering: are lucid dreams are easier to recall than regular dreams?  And does just attempting to become lucid make them any more memorable either?  I would assume that a lucid dream, since a sleeper is basically conscious while asleep, would be as easy to remember as a normal day's event, but I want to make sure.

Now for the interesting part of the post: I reached a weird form of lucidity in my dream last night.  All I could remember was that I was caught up in a huge fight with my mom which turned extremely violent -- everyone was in tears, punches and kicks were flying from both parties, and a truly sadistic hatred overwhelmed me.  After we parted for a moment, I realized that neither of us would EVER do anything like this in real life nor feel that way at all, so it must have been a dream.  Of all decisions, I decided to perform a reality check!  I tried to push my thumb into my palm, and lo! my hand was completely elastic, and the thumb pushed straight through!  Now you would think that I would gain at least some lucidity at that point, but that wasn't the case. 

My dream self "realized" that he was in a dream, but still (for some paradoxical reason) thought of the palm-penetrating occurrence as something consistent with reality.  Even though there was awareness that it as a dream, I had no control over my actions or thought processes (as in a normal dream), and I still awoke with that feeling that I just watched something but had nothing to do with it.

Any suggestions concerning what exactly happened, or why the reality check malfunctioned absolutely?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 21, 2008, 11:57:29 pm
I know the more I try to recall the better I get, but I was wondering: are lucid dreams are easier to recall than regular dreams?  And does just attempting to become lucid make them any more memorable either?  I would assume that a lucid dream, since a sleeper is basically conscious while asleep, would be as easy to remember as a normal day's event, but I want to make sure.

Now for the interesting part of the post: I reached a weird form of lucidity in my dream last night.  All I could remember was that I was caught up in a huge fight with my mom which turned extremely violent -- everyone was in tears, punches and kicks were flying from both parties, and a truly sadistic hatred overwhelmed me.  After we parted for a moment, I realized that neither of us would EVER do anything like this in real life nor feel that way at all, so it must have been a dream.  Of all decisions, I decided to perform a reality check!  I tried to push my thumb into my palm, and lo! my hand was completely elastic, and the thumb pushed straight through!  Now you would think that I would gain at least some lucidity at that point, but that wasn't the case. 

My dream self "realized" that he was in a dream, but still (for some paradoxical reason) thought of the palm-penetrating occurrence as something consistent with reality.  Even though there was awareness that it as a dream, I had no control over my actions or thought processes (as in a normal dream), and I still awoke with that feeling that I just watched something but had nothing to do with it.

Any suggestions concerning what exactly happened, or why the reality check malfunctioned absolutely?


For getting better recal try drinking apple juice before bed. Apple juice has a chemical in it that increases vividness along with recal.

Yes lucid dreams are much easier to remember than regular one's. But if you want to completely remember your dreams you will have to practice.


About the RC I have a few questions. When the RC Failed and showed you that you were dreaming did the dream come up with an excuse as to why that would happen? If so this is called false memories. They exist all over the place in dreams It help you deal with things that would normally not make any seance at all.

If the RC worked And you were aware that you were dreaming. I believe I know what happened.
As soon as you went lucid the dream changed tactic on you and went from regular to movie style. You can stop this from, happening by yelling out what you want to happen. When you yell something out in the dream it shows your mind that you absolutely want it to happen and the dream will ab liege.

If you can give me any more info on what happened after the RC, I might be able to help more.
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Post by: Timberwuff on November 22, 2008, 12:01:03 am
Wow.. that is indeed very interesting! But I need to say wolvenblaze, I'm right on the same page with you. I'm trying to do it all to, and am having a rough time at it! So please, Don't give up!! I really can't stress that enough! I've been doing this for a year now, exactly, although only about a week ago I started trying these new ideas, and I still haven't done it yet! It's horribly annoying and painfully frustrating. But clearly you are getting somewhere! Heck, that's even better and closer than my dreams!

If what you say is how you remember your dreams, then please write that down! Create words as you see fit, sometimes there just aren't enough words in English to say it properly!

I too wonder if lucids are easier to recall... it does make a lot of sense that they would. But if they didn't then perhaps we've had lucids before, but don't remember them!

My idea about why this didn't make you truly lucid is a thought I've been pondering: If a reality check fails... then what? You can't practice suddenly taking flight in real life, nor try transforming yourself. What I've been trying to do (since I can visualize dream images very well while still awake, so called "Hypnogogic" (something like that) images) is to while I'm seeing these essentially dreams I realize that I'm flying around a lot, but then I try to gain control of that as much as I possibly can. for example, I try to fly to the mountains I see far off in the distance, then try to claw my way up the side of it seeing how I basically just rammed right into it. I would believe that practice in controlling these dreams is a whole other step. At least you preformed a reality check! Keep up the great work! I can't even seem to think of that in dream... I've just been trying to enter these "Hypnogogic" images... which I've actually done once so far, but I don't recall how exactly. x_x

My hope is that with enough training in controlling these images, I will be able to work that into my dreams, and eventually I'll just become conscious in dreams! Since I need to consciously think where and what I want to do... but the images often don't last to long if you ever stop focusing on them even for a second!
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Post by: Anthro_Inquisitor on November 22, 2008, 12:04:06 am
I have one question about lucid dreaming before I say anything about it.

Are lucid dreaming and logical dreaming two different things? Normally when I sleep there are two states, one where i'm 'awake' and aware of every thought, yet still asleep (somehow, its like everything but my brain has shut off). And then there is the unaware period where I just doze off and dream random things that usually don't mean anything or make sense.

During the first 'logical' dreaming as I call it, my dreams are more like writing a book than anything. I'm rarely in the dream, and usually i'm controlling three chraracters in a plot I make up  :o

During the second I just have freaky dreams that, as I said, don't make sense. For example last nigh I dreamed of a cube being a sphere with an intense feeling of spinning around in a flat peice of paper. Wierdest feeling ever, but that's what it felt like!  :o
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 22, 2008, 12:10:21 am
So please, Don't give up!! I really can't stress that enough!

I've been keeping with you guys for a while and your both very very close to achieving a full lucid.
To quote some one(I cant remember the name)
The feeling of wanting to give up is always the strongest right before you succeed. (paraphrased that pretty badly)

If you can only remember feeling or a few words.
WRITE THAT DOWN!
anything you can remember is good. Even if its one thing when you write it down your telling your brain that you want to keep these memories.

Lucid dreaming and regular dreaming are very different. While lucid dreams seem to make more seance and things aren't that random as they appear in regular dreams.

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Post by: howodd on November 22, 2008, 02:35:45 am
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somehow, its like everything but my brain has shut off

that is what i usually feel like i'm starting to lucid dream, but it's not just that my brain won't shut off--there is vivid dream images happening while my brain is going. 
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Post by: Kris on November 22, 2008, 07:36:02 am
Lucid dreaming and regular dreaming are very different. While lucid dreams seem to make more seance and things aren't that random as they appear in regular dreams.

That really depends. 

As I read this thread, there seems to be an idea that dreaming/dreams are an absolute, that can be controlled by carefully manipulating certain variables of your environment/diet/psyche(meditation).  While this may be true to some extent, the real essence of a dream is controlled only by your own mind.  Myself (and probably a lot of yall too, after a bit of thought) see dreaming as something quite more abstract than what some have made it out to be.  Your brain, on a subconscious level, does have influence on what you dream, but, perhaps, putting conscious effort(pun intended) into trying to force a dream, will likely lead to frustration and possibly, wasted time in the long run. 

Myself?  Lucid dreams for me are -extremely- rare, as in, I can count all that I recall having in my lifetime (thus far), on one hand.  I keep a dream log of particular dreams not for the matter of trying to recreate them, but as a journal to remember the dreams by.  I simply enjoy the ones I do have, and let life go on as normal :) 
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 22, 2008, 09:20:03 am
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somehow, its like everything but my brain has shut off

that is what i usually feel like i'm starting to lucid dream, but it's not just that my brain won't shut off--there is vivid dream images happening while my brain is going. 


What you explaining sounds more like hipnagogic hallucination's more than dreams.
It's what one experiences right before They consciously enter the dream world.
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Post by: Wolvenblaze on November 22, 2008, 02:29:14 pm
Wow, thanks, all, for your advice and support (those who's replies were directed to me).  I'm taking everything into account! 

To Hayaikawa, I don't remember much of what happened after my reality check.  I know that the only "excuse" my dream gave for the failed RC was that pushing a thumb through a hand was something that could realistically happen in real life.  Strangely, though (and I didn't mention this before), the RC made me aware that it was a dream not because of the fact that my palm was unrealistically elastic, but simply because performing the check is supposed to help with the realization.  It's hard to explain, since it seems contradictory, but my dream-thought process went something like this:  "Oh, my thumb went through my hand.  Ok, that's perfectly normal, but since this is an RC and is supposed to make me lucid, I guess I'm dreaming."

I also have another strange issue that I've noticed that maybe some of you have had in the past.  Even though most of my dreams are extremely vague and fuzzy, I occasionally (or to be more accurate: rarely) have extremely vivid dreams that I recall almost perfectly.  They aren't lucid at all, but I awaken being able to recount the entire dream, down to the color of what people were wearing and exactly what they say.  I haven't had one of these in about a year and a half, but the last two I had, I recorded.

Is there any reason for this, and can I use it to help me dream lucidly?
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Post by: Alexandre on November 22, 2008, 03:18:52 pm
Sorry, Wolvenblaze, I have no experience with lucid dreams.  However, I've become increasingly interested in this discussion and finally decided to make an appearance.

I have never, ever, ever had a lucid dream, but the whole idea fascinates me.  Not only does it sound fun, but it seems like a practical use of dreams.  After reading this topic and a little extra information, I decided to try this.  It'll take a little practice, but I think it'll be worth it.  :)

Last night, I was able to remember parts of my dreams rather easily.  I went to visit one of my former church leaders, and when I entered his house, it got incredibly small so I had to crawl through a very tiny space; I'm not sure how I navigated the corners, but I was able to.  I realize that could have been a moment for a reality check.

Another dream, I was in a church (why so many religious themes?), and it was haunted.  I've had this dream before, and I knew what would happen.  While on the stage of the cultural center, the flying ghost appeared, flew around, and the body disappeared while the head flew through the air, screaming.  I wanted to wait until it happened again so I could ask what I could do to help, but the dream ended before I could.

Also, I was watching a performance of a musical; I decided to sneak on stage to talk to a friend.  However, the curtain call started, and I ended up in it.  I bowed and thought, "What's the director going to think of me being here?!?"  The dream ended.

I had one other dream about me trying to catch a plane to Brazil, but I can't remember the details very well.  I do remember catching a bus to the airport and renting a hotel room there until it was time to leave.

Anyway, I'm going to start keeping a dream journal.  I really do remember my dreams pretty well, but I have the hardest time distinguishing between reality and dreams.  I DID have a scary dream a long time ago when I realized it was all fake; I wasn't scared after that.

Thanks for all the info here!  It really intrigues me.  :D
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 22, 2008, 08:22:49 pm
Wow, thanks, all, for your advice and support (those who's replies were directed to me).  I'm taking everything into account! 

To Hayaikawa, I don't remember much of what happened after my reality check.  I know that the only "excuse" my dream gave for the failed RC was that pushing a thumb through a hand was something that could realistically happen in real life.  Strangely, though (and I didn't mention this before), the RC made me aware that it was a dream not because of the fact that my palm was unrealistically elastic, but simply because performing the check is supposed to help with the realization.  It's hard to explain, since it seems contradictory, but my dream-thought process went something like this:  "Oh, my thumb went through my hand.  Ok, that's perfectly normal, but since this is an RC and is supposed to make me lucid, I guess I'm dreaming."


Is there any reason for this, and can I use it to help me dream lucidly?

When your brain added the fact that The finger through your hand was totaly logical is definitely due to a false memory.
But the fact that you did get lucid is a good start. Even though you didn't have full lucidity. It's a very good sign that you can achieve it.

Keep up the good work.

However, I've become increasingly interested in this discussion and finally decided to make an appearance.

Anyway, I'm going to start keeping a dream journal.  I really do remember my dreams pretty well, but I have the hardest time distinguishing between reality and dreams.  I DID have a scary dream a long time ago when I realized it was all fake; I wasn't scared after that.

Thanks for all the info here!  It really intrigues me.  :D

If you have recurring themes in your dreams that's very good since you now know what you dream signs are.
Perform as many reality checks as you can think of when your Dream sign happens in real life and that will transition into your dreams.

Good luck.

Thanks for all the compliment if you have any more question feel free to ask.
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Post by: Timberwuff on November 22, 2008, 09:55:42 pm
I've been thinking... what exactly defines a Lucid Dream?

In my last closest attempt, I was fully aware I was still in bed, I could actually still feel the bed to an extent. But I was in a dream, it was very clear, a man spoke clearly with me, and music started playing incredibly clearly, even though that wasn't happening in real life... but I could still feel my bed.

At first I didn't want to call it a lucid dream since I didn't actually gain control of anything (I was too afraid of loosing the image of the dream) but I was 100% aware of being in bed.

So... is a lucid dream where you concretely know you're dreaming? Or is it when you actually gain control to an extent and start applying your will? In a full lucid dream, should you still feel your bed?

I would love to call my last experience a lucid dream, but I don't want to if it isn't.
Link to my Dream Journal, it will go right to the dream in question. It's in purple right now. (http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?p=945434#post945434)

[Edit]After posting in the Dreamviews forum, it turns out that in order for a lucid dream all you need to do is be aware that you're sleeping.

This means that my dream I posted above was indeed a lucid dream.... >.>   <.<

 :D :D :D

Well then, I need to thank everyone, especially Hayaikawa, for helping me so much... after a year I managed to do it. I just need to learn to do it again and control it! :D
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 23, 2008, 12:36:46 am
Congratulation Lawrence for you first lucid. :) :) :)
Now the fun starts. :D

You can do anything, Now pick a goal and remember it for the next lucid you have.
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Post by: Wolvenblaze on November 23, 2008, 01:08:22 am
Wow, so all you have to do is become aware that you're dreaming for it to be considered lucid?  Even if you have zero control of your thoughts/actions?  That means that I technically had a true lucid dream, right?  Whether I actually achieved one or just simply came close, I AM going to keep trying and see where it leads me!

BTW, thanks for all the effort you put into helping me, Hayaikawa, and thanks in advance for continuing to help me through my adventure!  :D
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 23, 2008, 01:20:19 am
Wow, so all you have to do is become aware that you're dreaming for it to be considered lucid?  Even if you have zero control of your thoughts/actions?  That means that I technically had a true lucid dream, right?  Whether I actually achieved one or just simply came close, I AM going to keep trying and see where it leads me!

BTW, thanks for all the effort you put into helping me, Hayaikawa, and thanks in advance for continuing to help me through my adventure!  :D

Yep all that you need to have a lucid is an awareness that your dreaming anything beyond that is just gravy.

The true fun starts when you begin to explore the world of your dreams, and gain control of you dream body and all the powers you now have.

Your welcome, and I look forward to helping you further.
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 24, 2008, 08:40:10 pm
I find it odd that I have lucid dreams without trying. I look forward to nightmares so I can control my dreams, as I have more power to influence things in them than normal dreams.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 24, 2008, 08:43:19 pm
I find it odd that I have lucid dreams without trying. I look forward to nightmares so I can control my dreams, as I have more power to influence things in them than normal dreams.

Do you have lucids every night or do you just have them often?
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 24, 2008, 08:49:03 pm
I usually have at least one a week. I can tell Im asleep and several times Ive tried the RC of trying to read something in the dream. I did get one once where I was able to read a lovely poem off a house wall, but that was years ago and I could only remember it for a few minutes afterwards.
 One of the best RC's ive found is trying to breathe underwater. If you cant feel the water and can breath, you're dreaming.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 24, 2008, 08:57:14 pm
The breathing underwater is an offshoot of the one where you plug you nose and can still breath. There both extremely effective.

Although you don't sound like a natural you still extremely lucky to have one at least once a week with out trying.

I must hear some story's of your lucid adventure's. :) :)
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 24, 2008, 09:20:59 pm
TBH, I usually let my subconcious make up the story for the dreams, but I have total control of myself, and I know exactly what is going to happen a few seconds before it happens in my dream, So I can block anything nasty that might happen to me. (I even try help people in my dreams, cause seem to be able to read my own subconcious and get them out of harms way). Sometimes though, I take control of the entire thing though.
 One time, I was camping In my dream and it was raining outside the cabin I was staying at. It was boring so I changed the dream so the cabin was on a hill and it started sliding down on top of a mudslide. I could feel every bump as it slid, but It wasnt scary because I knew it was a dream, so it was more like being on a rollercoaster.
 
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 24, 2008, 09:23:44 pm
cool that reminds me of a Lucid I heard on another site.

The dreamer likes to control the weather, so in one of his lucids he created a hurricane. To bad it ended up killing him in the dream. :D :D
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 24, 2008, 09:26:18 pm
Ive only every once died in a dream, and that was cause I knew it was a dream and wanted to know what It felt like in a dream. Aguy broke into our house, and I let him shoot me in the head.

 Never doing that again.

I woke up immidiatley, clutching my pillow to my head thinking my brains were coming out lol.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 24, 2008, 09:28:09 pm
Never doing that again.

I woke up clutching my pillow to my head thinking my brains were coming out lol.

Wow so brutal,

When people tell me they died in a lucid the most i her is just they responded in the same place or in a different dream.

Have you ever been your fursona in a lucid?
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 24, 2008, 09:31:36 pm
no, ive never really tried. Im a very logically minded person, so if something happens that doesnt make sense, I can spot it and realise its a dream.

I might try at some point, but I prefer being myself in my dreams
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 24, 2008, 10:15:05 pm
How would you define a natural lucid dreamer?
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 24, 2008, 10:17:30 pm
Some one who has lucid dreams evernight.
I think Kaloyan Alett is actually a natural since
 he say's every one of his dreams is a lucid.
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 24, 2008, 10:18:36 pm
Ah, I dont dream every night, so I wasnt sure.
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Post by: Kris on November 24, 2008, 11:25:52 pm
Some one who has lucid dreams evernight.
I think Kaloyan Alett is actually a natural since
 he say's every one of his dreams is a lucid.

Depends on how one defines a dream as being lucid.
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Post by: Rick Woods on November 25, 2008, 06:52:39 am
Ah, I dont dream every night, so I wasnt sure.
Oh, yes you do.  You just don't remember all of them.

I'd bet you ten to one that if you set an alarm to wake yourself up during REM sleep, you'd vividly recall whatever you were dreaming about at that moment.
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Post by: Catboy on November 25, 2008, 09:54:37 am
For the first time in a long while I had a lucid last night. It worked (:!
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 25, 2008, 12:12:17 pm
cool lets hear about it.

P.s. i think Dak3ras  was talking about lucid dreaming every night. correct me if im wrong
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 25, 2008, 09:14:57 pm
Well, all the dreams I remember are lucid, so Im not sure then.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 25, 2008, 09:22:38 pm
If every single dream you have is lucid then yes you are a natural.
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 25, 2008, 09:49:57 pm
Well, as I cant remember them all, I have no way of knowing.
 I think I remember how I first started having lucid dreams. I used to get constant nightmares when I was very young and there was a very strange dream that scared me more than anything. I would open the door to the spare room in our house and instead of seeing the room, I would see calm water out into the distance. The only thing disturbing the water was a tiny drip rolling off a small thread (I never saw what it was connected to.). For some reason the water would begin to speed up and became lumpy and the calm ocean I saw turned brown and bubbled and for some reason this scared the hell out of me and I'd try shut the door but I couldnt and I'd wake up. After having this dream at least four or five times, I realised I couldnt be scared of something silly like this, so when I next had the dream, I recognised it, and decided that, as the water turned lumpy, and frightening, I would turn it back Into water by concentrating as hard as I could. Thankfully it worked, and I've had lucid dreams ever since, possibly as a defensive mechanism to stuff scaring me.

And yes, It was a stupid dream.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 25, 2008, 10:01:23 pm
Wow,  that's so cool that you were able to find what was essentially you dream sign so easily and so long ago.

Kuddos on being ably to fight nightmares so early in life, Fighting nightmares is a big reason people get into lucid dreaming in the first place. The only thing I could do about my nightmares was being able to wake myself up when I needed to. If only I knew about lucid dreaming I could of used that get lucid at a young age.
But since I dont get nightmares very often if at all anymore I cant use nightmares like I want to now, the only thing I've got now are my dreamsigns.
 
And  my dream signs have been all over the place lately.
First it was flying, then it was going to pennsic, now its anything furry related. If only they would stay consistent I would have more luck.
but o well this just means I have to work harder at it. now if I could just sleep through out the night for once that would also make a big deference.
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 25, 2008, 10:07:09 pm
err, whats a dream sign anyway?

I think this nightmare is the reason the underwater breathing RC works best for me though
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Post by: Hayaikawa on November 25, 2008, 10:44:41 pm
a dream sign is a recurring theme in your dreams.
It slows people to do reality checks when ever something like it happens in real life, so when it happens in the dream they'll do a reality check in the dream and then become lucid.
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Post by: Dak3ras on November 25, 2008, 11:19:17 pm
oh, thats kind of cool
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Post by: Catboy on December 03, 2008, 08:58:12 am
cool lets hear about it.

P.s. i think Dak3ras  was talking about lucid dreaming every night. correct me if im wrong

Sorry, (I haven't been on here in a while :P). It started as a normal lucid as myself but at one point in the dream I figured out it was lucid and remembered I wanted to be a anthro cat. I sort of imagined myself as that and I turned into it. Then I went on doing various things and at one point found myself out in a big park. Suddenly, I noticed that my dream kitty was sitting on a bench nearby and the rest of the dream is adult oriented ;). Sure wish I had lucids more often, lol.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on December 03, 2008, 12:31:51 pm
Sorry, (I haven't been on here in a while :P). It started as a normal lucid as myself but at one point in the dream I figured out it was lucid and remembered I wanted to be a anthro cat. I sort of imagined myself as that and I turned into it. Then I went on doing various things and at one point found myself out in a big park. Suddenly, I noticed that my dream kitty was sitting on a bench nearby and the rest of the dream is adult oriented ;). Sure wish I had lucids more often, lol.

that revy cool that you had such control and was able to morph so easily.I think my current problem is I'm over thinking things and trying to morph one part at a time. I should try looking for a pill that says insta morph on it or imagine i'm I'm on the holodeck and saying "active holodeck program Hayaikawa furry" I know exactly how i'm going to go about doing it I just need to have a lucid and I'd be set.

well if you want to become lucid more often i can help with that.

Do you know what you dream sign is?
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Post by: Unknow Coyote on December 03, 2008, 09:57:33 pm
Most of the time i dream i can do anything i want on them...
But the problem it's that i can only do what i could in real life, so it's nothing extraordinary.
When in fact i notice it's a dream, i bite people, pounce at them, push them, eat a lot of weird things  :D
Being to some really weird places and i been going randomly to other peoples house, you find out people in your dreams does pretty weird things  :-[
Hmn, burn tings  8)
Well once i went with a witch (really) and ask her to turn me in a coyote, by the way she say (i remember clearly), that i was mad or insane.
Though, i freaked out...
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Post by: Hayaikawa on December 03, 2008, 10:07:58 pm
well if you want to have more dream powers i have alot i can suggest.

First of all there a reality checks that prove beyond a shadow of a dought that your dreaming.

when you do these reality checks and they prove your dreaming extraordinary things happen that will help you have dream powers.

I have a list in an earlier post in this thread. I dont know if you know but I am helping all thouse that are willing to learn how do lucid dream and how to attain dream powers.

If you have any questions at all please ask my. it''s kinda my thing. I.E. me being the fox dreamer and all.
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Post by: Unknow Coyote on December 03, 2008, 10:37:31 pm
Well I...
It could be good, they get scary at times, so it might be helpful.
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Post by: Hayaikawa on December 03, 2008, 10:51:49 pm
Well I...
It could be good, they get scary at times, so it might be helpful.

one of the big main reasons people get into lucid dreaming is to fight off night mare's imagine your classic night mare and then being able to do anything you want with it. you could fight it, make it disappear, ignore it, or just leave the area that it's going on in.
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Post by: Lone | Wolf on December 17, 2008, 03:53:39 pm
Well... I want to begin lucid dreaming but I don't often have dream recall. I guess It's because I've had a really crazy ever changing sleep pattern for the last year heh, and rarely enough sleep, maybe... once a week i get 8 hours? How can I help dream recall then?
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Post by: Dak3ras on December 17, 2008, 03:58:41 pm
Timing isnt important, I can lucid dream when I only have 4 hours sleep. You just need to realise its a dream
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 17, 2008, 03:59:50 pm
well to start off on anything lucid dream related you want to increase your dream recal.

You do that be writing anything down about your dreams that you remember. it can be anything from the whole dream to a feeling you had or a specific item you saw.

When you write down your dreams it re wires your brain telling it to remember the dreams(since normally they are on super low level importance in memory that's why you forget them so easily.)

after about a week of doing this you should be able to see an increase in how much you remember, when I first started I could only remember about one dream, now on a good day I can remember 4 whole dreams.

Timing isnt important, I can lucid dream when I only have 4 hours sleep. You just need to realise its a dream

it all depends on the person and where they are on there sleep scycle when they fall asleep. Ive had my firts dream of the night be a lucid one. It also depends on how easy it is for you to lucid dream.
When your writing down your dreams this will also increase the vividness of them also boosting your dream recal.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 17, 2008, 04:53:56 pm
cool lets hear about it.

P.s. i think Dak3ras  was talking about lucid dreaming every night. correct me if im wrong

Sorry, (I haven't been on here in a while :P). It started as a normal lucid as myself but at one point in the dream I figured out it was lucid and remembered I wanted to be a anthro cat. I sort of imagined myself as that and I turned into it. Then I went on doing various things and at one point found myself out in a big park. Suddenly, I noticed that my dream kitty was sitting on a bench nearby and the rest of the dream is adult oriented ;). Sure wish I had lucids more often, lol.

major lol

i'v had that too
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: khurynn on December 17, 2008, 11:45:50 pm
This subject really interests me.  About once or twice a year I'll have a dream that I can remember in incredible detail (which I'll record) but usually it's much more vague.  Normally I'll remember only bits and pieces of a few different dreams (if anything at all), usually right when I wake up but sometimes later in the day, when something I see or hear will trigger a memory of what I dreamed about the previous night.  I've tried a few separate times to keep a dream journal but haven't really stuck with it for more than a couple weeks at a time, since I didn't really notice my recall ability getting any better. 

One thing I have noticed though is that I can remember details from dreams much more easily if I wake up in the middle of them, usually as a result of my alarm going off.  I'm the type of person that hits the snooze button about ten times before actually getting out of bed, and I'll often fall back into REM during those cycles... these are the dreams I can usually remember the most from.  Could this be another way of training one's memory to remember dreams better?

Obviously I hope to be able to have lucid dreams some day, and be able to remember them afterward.  I think I could have quite a bit of fun with them  (:
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 17, 2008, 11:51:16 pm
One thing I have noticed though is that I can remember details from dreams much more easily if I wake up in the middle of them, usually as a result of my alarm going off.  I'm the type of person that hits the snooze button about ten times before actually getting out of bed, and I'll often fall back into REM during those cycles... these are the dreams I can usually remember the most from.  Could this be another way of training one's memory to remember dreams better?

Obviously I hope to be able to have lucid dreams some day, and be able to remember them afterward.  I think I could have quite a bit of fun with them  (:

yes that is a way to get better recal, but most people don't use it since it can potentially mess with your sleep cycle. But if your willing to do it ts a gret way to boost recall.

as for having a dream journal for a couple of weeks that enough to know your dream signs.

As for having your first lucid dream, It is one of the most incredible things in existence. You have any power you could possible imagine do anything you could ever want be anything you desire, and with the same level of clarity that real life has for you. It will definitely change the way you see the world, and how you experience it.

I have a tutorial on page five post number 103 of this thread that could help you greatly. I suggest you read it then ask me any question you still have. I'm more than willing to help. :)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 18, 2008, 02:51:40 am
while i find lucids generaly more realistic and more of an experince i find them difficult to achieve

and so i was wondering if any one here has self-hypnotysed

i find it genealy easier to acheive though it is'nt as real (but can feel realer with practice) and you have the same freedom you would in a lucid

so has any-one self hypnotised?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 18, 2008, 02:52:56 am
while i find lucids generaly more realistic and more of an experince i find them difficult to achieve

and so i was wondering if any one here has self-hypnotysed

i find it genealy easier to acheive though it is'nt as real (but can feel realer with practice) and you have the same freedom you would in a lucid

so has any-one self hypnotised?

I've heard of its uses but. I cant go into them here since hypnosis is a banned subject here. sorry
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 18, 2008, 03:01:51 am
while i find lucids generaly more realistic and more of an experince i find them difficult to achieve

and so i was wondering if any one here has self-hypnotysed

i find it genealy easier to acheive though it is'nt as real (but can feel realer with practice) and you have the same freedom you would in a lucid

so has any-one self hypnotised?

I've heard of its uses but. I cant go into them here since hypnosis is a banned subject here. sorry

oh sorry, did'nt know
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 18, 2008, 03:03:17 am
oh sorry, did'nt know
that's ok.

if you got any other questions that don't pertain to hypnosis I'll be happy to answer them.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 18, 2008, 03:13:07 am
i had a look at your 105 post on page 5 and found i t very helpful thanks
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 18, 2008, 03:14:51 am
i had a look at your 105 post on page 5 and found i t very helpful thanks

your welcome, but don't you mean the 103rd post the 105th post is a response to someone?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 18, 2008, 10:05:18 am
oh yeah, lol
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Wolvenblaze on December 18, 2008, 04:20:22 pm
I've heard of its uses but. I cant go into them here since hypnosis is a banned subject here. sorry

WHAT!?!?!?  Why is hypnosis a banned subject?  That's ridiculous!  I see no reason for it to be banned!
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 18, 2008, 04:22:17 pm
I've heard of its uses but. I cant go into them here since hypnosis is a banned subject here. sorry

WHAT!?!?!?  Why is hypnosis a banned subject?  That's ridiculous!  I see no reason for it to be banned!

sorry guys, I'd tell ya all i know, but Kobuk has explicitly told me not to talk about it.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Wolvenblaze on December 18, 2008, 04:30:42 pm
sorry guys, I'd tell ya all i know, but Kobuk has explicitly told me not to talk about it.

Someone PM me then!  I want to hear these unfounded reasons for myself!
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kobuk on December 18, 2008, 09:54:17 pm
Staff Note: The subject of hypnosis on Furtopia is a banned subjuct for the following reasons:
* There is no guarantee or conclusive proof that hypnosis does or does not work.
* Due to past hypnosis experiences/threads on Furtopia that were posted by past members, some other members were complaining of unusual side effects that affected their thinking, judgement, lifestyle, emotions, etc. Therefore, the discussion, encouragement, promotion, etc. of hypnosis is a banned subject on Furtopia.

Further discussion of hypnosis by members can result in disciplinary measures as determined by staff. Thanks for your understanding.

Please continue with the original topic of lucid dreaming only.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 19, 2008, 09:49:33 am
Staff Note: The subject of hypnosis on Furtopia is a banned subjuct for the following reasons:
* There is no guarantee or conclusive proof that hypnosis does or does not work.
* Due to past hypnosis experiences/threads on Furtopia that were posted by past members, some other members were complaining of unusual side effects that affected their thinking, judgement, lifestyle, emotions, etc. Therefore, the discussion, encouragement, promotion, etc. of hypnosis is a banned subject on Furtopia.

Further discussion of hypnosis by members can result in disciplinary measures as determined by staff. Thanks for your understanding.

Please continue with the original topic of lucid dreaming only.

thank you for clarifying that for me, i was wondering
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Wolvenblaze on December 21, 2008, 05:43:31 pm
Thanks.  Legally and ethically, I understand why it's banned now.  Plus, I got the full account of the fateful events from someone else.  :o
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Lone | Wolf on December 22, 2008, 10:12:48 pm
Might as well get this thread back on topic, I still have problems with dream recollectoin. I would log my dreams but once I wake up i have no recollection at all so cannot use the method to improve dream recall. Maybe I'm dreaming about an evil monkey in my closet and my sub-concious is hiding it from me I dunno  :D Any tips on starting dream recall, never mind improving it? I miss dreaming, actually had a few lucids before ageeesss ago. I didn't try to control much in it though more acted the way I wanted to instead of fake dream me would. And was able to stop a few nightmares and wake myself up.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 22, 2008, 10:46:14 pm
I can suggest that before you go to sleep to drink a glass of apple juice, It's been proven to increase vividness as well as recall.

also if all else fail that you wake your self up in the middle of the night, usually since it's so different then the usual dream pattern your body doesn't delete the dream memory as fast.

Also as soon as you wake up(like instantly) write a work down while thinking about anything that you drempt about, so when you can write the whole dream down you look at the word you wrote down and it should spark some memories back.

I hope these suggestions help.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 23, 2008, 06:20:47 am
I can suggest that before you go to sleep to drink a glass of apple juice, It's been proven to increase vividness as well as recall.

i too have problems with dream recall and i will definatly try drinking apple-juice before sleeping
thanks for the advice
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Wolvenblaze on December 26, 2008, 05:07:26 pm
Hmm.  I see why it would be a good idea to write your dream down as soon as you wake up, but sometimes I find that I can remember more of it the longer I think of it (like midday).  Weird huh?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 26, 2008, 06:35:41 pm
Hmm.  I see why it would be a good idea to write your dream down as soon as you wake up, but sometimes I find that I can remember more of it the longer I think of it (like midday).  Weird huh?


some of this i can explain, lets say you have a dream about a tv show you like, but when you wake up you can't remember any of it.
BUT
when that show is on TV it sparks the nearly completely deleted dream memory and brings it back to the main part of your memory.
this has happened to me numerous times and I can vouch for it working, the same thing can be applied to hen you wake up just write anything down while thinking about the dream, and when you read it later in the day it will spark you memories back.

also the more you move when you wake up he more of the dream you will lose your memory of the dream.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Dak3ras on December 26, 2008, 10:17:26 pm
I'm gonna drink some apple juice tonight and see if theres a difference lol.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 30, 2008, 07:31:51 am
i had a lucid .... well i don't know if it was a dream, more like an expiereince

anyway i was sat watching t.v (no one else in the room) and i sortta zoned out and i remember seeing a huge house, really nice, beautifull gardens almost like my ideal furry residence on the furry residence thread.

 http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,34654.0.html

and then some gentel music started playing in the background and i saw the fox of my dreams (anthro) at this point i realised that i was in the form of my fursona and i walked up to her and she ran in to the house so i followed her to find her laying on a sofa by the fire and then (as is sods law) i woke up to find that i had been out of it for about 10 minuites

it sounds more like a vivid day dream than an actual dream but it was lucid because i had control of how everything looked, so i wonder why i dreampet her running into the house?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 30, 2008, 11:20:35 am
i had a lucid .... well i don't know if it was a dream, more like an expiereince

anyway i was sat watching t.v (no one else in the room) and i sortta zoned out and i remember seeing a huge house, really nice, beautifull gardens almost like my ideal furry residence on the furry residence thread.

 http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,34654.0.html

and then some gentel music started playing in the background and i saw the fox of my dreams (anthro) at this point i realised that i was in the form of my fursona and i walked up to her and she ran in to the house so i followed her to find her laying on a sofa by the fire and then (as is sods law) i woke up to find that i had been out of it for about 10 minuites

it sounds more like a vivid day dream than an actual dream but it was lucid because i had control of how everything looked, so i wonder why i dreampet her running into the house?

Congratulations.
question time

Is this your first lucid?
and
Can you explain more about the control you had?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 30, 2008, 02:10:16 pm
i had a lucid .... well i don't know if it was a dream, more like an expiereince

anyway i was sat watching t.v (no one else in the room) and i sortta zoned out and i remember seeing a huge house, really nice, beautifull gardens almost like my ideal furry residence on the furry residence thread.

 http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,34654.0.html

and then some gentel music started playing in the background and i saw the fox of my dreams (anthro) at this point i realised that i was in the form of my fursona and i walked up to her and she ran in to the house so i followed her to find her laying on a sofa by the fire and then (as is sods law) i woke up to find that i had been out of it for about 10 minuites

it sounds more like a vivid day dream than an actual dream but it was lucid because i had control of how everything looked, so i wonder why i dreampet her running into the house?

Congratulations.
question time

Is this your first lucid?
and
Can you explain more about the control you had?


definatly not my first lucid dream, i'v had quite a few.

in awnser to your second question the controle i had was somewhat like a lose connection, at one point i remeber thinking the garden of the house would look nice with toperie cones leading to the door and then they appered
but at the same time i dont remeber wanting her to run inside so it was as if i had controle over almost everthing in the dream

whatever it was i hope it happens again, iwoke up feeling increadably happy
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kinshi on December 30, 2008, 03:37:21 pm
a tenth of my dreams (which i can remember, and that's were the trouble starts, i can only remember about one dream per 2weeks) are lucids, and i CAN teleport, shapeshift, and do whatever the heck i want, but the problem is, that once i realize i'm dreaming, i wake up after a few seconds :( , i DID manage to make a dream last about 30 seconds longer by shouting 'TIME STOPS' once... thats about the only problem i have , and the fact that i can only recall about 1 dream in 2weeks... so it will be very hard to discover my 'dream signs'... the only thing that's constant in my dreams which i noticed so far, is that everything is out of proportion, and there are ALWAYS skeletons with purple shields in it, IDK why.

i once dremt that i was in my old school, and i saw that the stairs were WAY higher than normal (so yeah i noticed i was dreaming), and i took of a la DBZ, aura and all that flashy stuff but i couldn't turn around, only fly in straight lines... i could however perform a kaaaameeeehaaameeHAAAAAAAAA by just yelling it and imagining a blue beam coming out of my hands, blowing up the stairs in tiny pieces... best...dream...ever...
and another one where i was being chased by a skeleton with a purple shield, i just slashed it in two with my mind

also, i tend to have the same dreams lots of times, i had like this weird dream about a giant chocolate man eating easter egg, and i can now predict where it's gonna show up, so when i have that particular dream, i know i'm dreaming and have lots of fun tormenting it
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 30, 2008, 03:38:38 pm
i had a lucid .... well i don't know if it was a dream, more like an expiereince

anyway i was sat watching t.v (no one else in the room) and i sortta zoned out and i remember seeing a huge house, really nice, beautifull gardens almost like my ideal furry residence on the furry residence thread.

 http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,34654.0.html

and then some gentel music started playing in the background and i saw the fox of my dreams (anthro) at this point i realised that i was in the form of my fursona and i walked up to her and she ran in to the house so i followed her to find her laying on a sofa by the fire and then (as is sods law) i woke up to find that i had been out of it for about 10 minuites

it sounds more like a vivid day dream than an actual dream but it was lucid because i had control of how everything looked, so i wonder why i dreampet her running into the house?

Congratulations.
question time

Is this your first lucid?
and
Can you explain more about the control you had?


definatly not my first lucid dream, i'v had quite a few.

in awnser to your second question the controle i had was somewhat like a lose connection, at one point i remeber thinking the garden of the house would look nice with toperie cones leading to the door and then they appered
but at the same time i dont remeber wanting her to run inside so it was as if i had controle over almost everthing in the dream

whatever it was i hope it happens again, iwoke up feeling increadably happy

from the more detail you've given me it actualy sounds more like a semi lucid(where the person is more subconsiously changing the events in the dream world) but cool and very good none the less.

as for fealing happy after a lucid, that happens to me as well there such great mood bosters and a fantastic way to start the day.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on December 30, 2008, 03:45:25 pm
a tenth of my dreams (which i can remember, and that's were the trouble starts, i can only remember about one dream per 2weeks) are lucids, and i CAN teleport, shapeshift, and do whatever the heck i want, but the problem is, that once i realize i'm dreaming, i wake up after a few seconds :( , i DID manage to make a dream last about 30 seconds longer by shouting 'TIME STOPS' once... thats about the only problem i have , and the fact that i can only recall about 1 dream in 2weeks... so it will be very hard to discover my 'dream signs'... the only thing that's constant in my dreams which i noticed so far, is that everytihng is out of proportion, and there are ALWAYS skeletons with purple shields in it, IDK why.

i once dremt that i was in my old school, and i saw that the stairs were WAY higher than normal (so yeah i noticed i was dreaming), and i took of a la DBZ, aura and all that flashy stuff but i couldn't turn around, only fly in straight lines... i could however perform a kaaaameeeehaaameeHAAAAAAAAA by just yelling it and imagining a blue beam coming out of my hands, blowing up the stairs in tiny pieces... best...dream...ever... and another one where i was being chased by a skeleton woth a purple shield, i just went psychotic or something and slashed it in two with my mind

also, i tend to have the same dreams lots of times, i had like this weird dream about a giant chocolate man eating easter egg, and i can now predict where it's gonna show up, so when i have that particular dream, i know i'm dreaming and have lots of fun killing it in all ways possible, flamethrower, bear traps and whatnot , i am however restricted to a 10-20 second killing spree :( because after that, i just wake up. :(

the best advice iu can give you on this is that if you think it will happen it will.
the limit to your dreams is because you think there is one.

every possible restriction people have is because they expect it to be there plain and simple.
this little bit of information causes the MOST trouble for any one attempting lucids.

It's our attachments to the real world that give us these hinderences.

IT'S YOUR DREAM DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH IT.
don't let you mind think it will fail or it will.

remember that you dream for sevural minutes all the time, becoming lucid should in fact extend this time since you are aware of the dream and can change it, including lengthening it(if even it is only for a minute or so)


also next time try dream spinning(when your in the dream world just spin in a circle really fast, this should extend the dream, make it more vivd, as well as possible change your location.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on December 30, 2008, 04:07:03 pm
i had a lucid .... well i don't know if it was a dream, more like an expiereince

anyway i was sat watching t.v (no one else in the room) and i sortta zoned out and i remember seeing a huge house, really nice, beautifull gardens almost like my ideal furry residence on the furry residence thread.

 http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,34654.0.html

and then some gentel music started playing in the background and i saw the fox of my dreams (anthro) at this point i realised that i was in the form of my fursona and i walked up to her and she ran in to the house so i followed her to find her laying on a sofa by the fire and then (as is sods law) i woke up to find that i had been out of it for about 10 minuites

it sounds more like a vivid day dream than an actual dream but it was lucid because i had control of how everything looked, so i wonder why i dreampet her running into the house?

Congratulations.
question time

Is this your first lucid?
and
Can you explain more about the control you had?


definatly not my first lucid dream, i'v had quite a few.

in awnser to your second question the controle i had was somewhat like a lose connection, at one point i remeber thinking the garden of the house would look nice with toperie cones leading to the door and then they appered
but at the same time i dont remeber wanting her to run inside so it was as if i had controle over almost everthing in the dream

whatever it was i hope it happens again, iwoke up feeling increadably happy

from the more detail you've given me it actualy sounds more like a semi lucid(where the person is more subconsiously changing the events in the dream world) but cool and very good none the less.

as for fealing happy after a lucid, that happens to me as well there such great mood bosters and a fantastic way to start the day.

thanks for clearing that up for me *sigh* if only it had lasted just a little longer *cheeky giggle*
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Wolvenblaze on January 01, 2009, 05:32:35 pm
I had a very odd experience last night.  I forgot what the dream was about, and I stupidly did not write it down (please kick me in the face), but I remember that I had conscious control of my actions . . . sorta.

What happened defies anything I've read or heard, but in the dream, through whatever I was doing my earrings started to bother me.  So interestingly, I woke up, took them off and placed them on my table, fell immediately back to sleep, and returned to the exact same dream earringless.  It was definitely my "conscious self" in the dream, or else I would have felt confused and disconnected upon waking up.  I would say that it was a lucid, except that I don't remember it very well, and I don't recall realizing that it was a dream (even though I made the decision to wake up temporarily).

Weird, huh?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on January 01, 2009, 09:28:26 pm
This was defiantly a partial lucid.

The partial awareness, and control with out completely realizing it was a dream are both dead give a ways that it was only partial.

But, this is a very good sign that your getting very close to having a full lucid.

Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Wolvenblaze on January 01, 2009, 09:49:16 pm
This was defiantly a partial lucid.

The partial awareness, and control with out completely realizing it was a dream are both dead give a ways that it was only partial.

But, this is a very good sign that your getting very close to having a full lucid.



Yay, thanks.  I just hope I don't lose my roll and fall into normal forgettables.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on January 02, 2009, 08:54:04 am
i had a lucid .... well i don't know if it was a dream, more like an expiereince

anyway i was sat watching t.v (no one else in the room) and i sortta zoned out and i remember seeing a huge house, really nice, beautifull gardens almost like my ideal furry residence on the furry residence thread.

 http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,34654.0.html

and then some gentel music started playing in the background and i saw the fox of my dreams (anthro) at this point i realised that i was in the form of my fursona and i walked up to her and she ran in to the house so i followed her to find her laying on a sofa by the fire and then (as is sods law) i woke up to find that i had been out of it for about 10 minuites

it sounds more like a vivid day dream than an actual dream but it was lucid because i had control of how everything looked, so i wonder why i dreampet her running into the house?

i had the same dream last night! and the night before that, not while i was asleep i just sorta zoned out again almost like a really powerfull day dream, it keeps repeating through the same story line (if you can call it that) i'm out side a large house/manor and there in the door-way is the fox of my dreams (anthro), she runs into the house/manor and i find laying down either on a sofa or by the fire and then i wake up (or zone back in or whatever)

it seems to me more like a vivid daydream/fantasy than a real lucid but i do have controle over most of what happens, whatever it is it keeps happening, not that theres anything wrong with that its just a bit wierd that it keeps happening and each time it seems as if i get closer to her than i did the last time

all i know is that i wake up feeling exedingly happy (:
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on January 02, 2009, 10:14:17 am
it seems to me more like a vivid daydream/fantasy than a real lucid but i do have controle over most of what happens, whatever it is it keeps happening, not that theres anything wrong with that its just a bit wierd that it keeps happening and each time it seems as if i get closer to her than i did the last time

all i know is that i wake up feeling exedingly happy (:

hrm,
 the more you say this the more it sounds like a day dream, as you said. But the fact that you're getting further each time intrigues me greatly, I would definitely like to here more about this as your dream progress's.

As for the time after words, having great dreams is super fun, am I right  ;)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on January 02, 2009, 10:36:47 am
it seems to me more like a vivid daydream/fantasy than a real lucid but i do have controle over most of what happens, whatever it is it keeps happening, not that theres anything wrong with that its just a bit wierd that it keeps happening and each time it seems as if i get closer to her than i did the last time

all i know is that i wake up feeling exedingly happy (:

hrm,
 the more you say this the more it sounds like a day dream, as you said. But the fact that you're getting further each time intrigues me greatly, I would definitely like to here more about this as your dream progress's.

As for the time after words, having great dreams is super fun, am I right  ;)

i'll keep you updated and yes you're right *wink,wink* "say no more" ;)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on January 02, 2009, 12:37:02 pm
it just happend again i know it's not been long since my last post but thats day-dreaming for you eh!
i got so close to her this time and then i snapped out of it and came drearily back into the real world.
i'm just wondering if any of this sybolises somthing?

i mean the fox kinda reminds me of a girl i used to like     think about someti..   like
and i wonder if that means somthing?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on January 03, 2009, 09:55:17 am
ok, first of all sorry for posting three times in a row now but i had to post this before i forgot
yep i had the dream again but this time it was longer than ever, i didnt get just get close to her i...erm...well i think you can guess what happend :-[

i just thought it was a bit wierd to have such a vivid day dream/drousy fantasy but what ever it was it progressed very quikly from the first dream to the one i just explained about, if it carry's on still i'll be very suprised

 
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on January 03, 2009, 04:29:38 pm
Cool that you got further than ever.

it's interesting that you got so into the day dream,

i would like to continue the discussion with you but the delicacy of this topic is a bit much for furtopia.

so if you would like any more help with this feel free to contact me via any of the IM's I have.



edit: i fixed the post since im now on my computer




Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Murkrow on January 04, 2009, 03:11:02 am
sometimes in my dream, i think i am controlling my dream. im not sure, but i think i am. o-o i end up in a situation & im like "...well this happend in real life!", where i know im dreaming, but i cant do anything bout it till im like "DAMN RIGHT I JUST DID THAT. ouo"


like the other day, i DIED in my dream. & some say when you die in your dream, you die in real life. in the dream, i was like "...I JUST DIED. imma ghost now? i know im dreaming, BUT I JUST DIED." i woke up like "...HAHA I DIDNT DIE IN REAL LIFE YAY."

...i guess i expierienced what it was like to die. i remember seeing myself dicintegrate, then a flash of white, then black & there i was. floating like a ghost. almost like how you respawn in a video game, cept it was more fun. :D


im not sure, but i think the explosion that caused me to die...i forget, but i think i wanted it to explode. just so i couldnt suffer knowing there was an explosion bout to happen whenever. im not sure if i controlled it or not.


D:? *is confused with that dream*
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on January 04, 2009, 03:20:26 am
from what i've read you had a few semi lucids.

the dieing int he dream and then dieing in real life a not real.
you can kill you self like crazy in a dream and be fine.

if you kill your self in a lucid you'll just respawn next to your dead corpse of be talaported to a new location.



Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Dak3ras on January 04, 2009, 11:31:01 am
When I died in my lucid, it scared the hell outta me. Never gonna let that happen again.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on January 04, 2009, 05:16:34 pm
When I died in my lucid, it scared the hell outta me. Never gonna let that happen again.

trust me nothing can hurt you in the dream world, it's just in your mind.

I've heard stories of people finding fun ways to die.
like playing real life frogger in the dream  :D
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Artic Bat on February 01, 2009, 09:59:04 pm
Ya know a funny way to die is to trip over a can and just die it would be funny yet sad at the same time.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 01, 2009, 10:03:21 pm
O, I've yet to update this with my progress so far.

I've finally broken my dry spell and had 2 lucids inside of a week.
I've also been having trouble remembering the ways that I was going to go about the lucid TF, which is aggravating since I those will work and the things I HAVE been remembering has been failing.

I do feel that I am closer to my goal though.



and don't forget, got a question,just ask :)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: redyoshi49q on February 01, 2009, 11:18:25 pm
This thread is one that I've been keeping a tab on for a while, and though I have not made considerable efforts toward lucidity, I have worked toward it passively.

Having said that, there is something that I need help with.

Several days ago, I had a dream.  It was a close imitation of reality, as it had locations and people that I am acquainted with.  However, the fact that the locations were not positioned correctly in relation to each other and (sadly enough) the fact that I was hanging out with a large group of friends in the area around my house made me realize that what I was experiencing couldn't be real.  For the first time, I was aware of being in a dream.

Now for the bad news...

Immediately after becoming lucid, all I was able to see while dreaming was "reruns" (parts of the dream that had already occurred).  I still wasn't awake, as I still had no awareness of my real physical body, but I wasn't able to continue dreaming, either.

If there was some sort of "magical formula" that might prevent this from happening or continuing to happen in the future (similar to the keep-your-lucid formulas), it would be very nice to know.  The elation of having my first lucid was utterly decimated by my inability to do anything...
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 01, 2009, 11:25:16 pm
well don't let the fact that you didnt do anything in the lucid get you down, stay positive with this, when discusing the dream world, ONLY think about the positive things (I admit this is a problem i have) every single time you think something wont or will happen it wont or will, this ESPECIALLY pertains to problems occurring WHILE  in the dream world, it you think it's over and ruined it will repeat that process,

The same thing goes for expecting something to work.
(this is one of the most important things to remember when discussing dream control)

as for you saying you didnt have control, please expand upon that for me.
like was it your body won't move or your vision was just what was happening and you didnt really see your body move?

A REALLY GOOD way to keep control is to perform reality checks once lucid, these will reinforce the fact that your dreaming and the impossible is possible.

Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaloth on February 01, 2009, 11:25:57 pm
They might actually have been the same thing. As I once read, "Your mind is like a pond and ripples are your thoughts, but excitement is like dropping a boulder." can't think of who said it... but it is an acurate quote.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 01, 2009, 11:27:31 pm
They might actually have been the same thing. As I once read, "Your mind is like a pond and ripples are your thoughts, but excitement is like dropping a boulder." can't think of who said it... but it is an acurate quote.

Exactly, don't over excite your self while in the dream. that is one of the REAL ways you can wake up. It stirs your minds level of awareness up to high and you become aware of your real body and the dream fades to nothingness.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: redyoshi49q on February 02, 2009, 01:03:45 am
as for you saying you didnt have control, please expand upon that for me.
like was it your body won't move or your vision was just what was happening and you didnt really see your body move?
As previously stated, I was able to experience nothing in the dream but reruns.  I saw random, memorable moments of what had previously transpired, and had no motor control or other sensory perception.  It felt like I was remembering the dream itself as opposed to actually dreaming like I was earlier.  I had no control over which parts of the dream were revisited, nor was I able to influence the dream to keep going in its previous direction, despite my efforts.

My best guess to explain the phenomenon is that I, upon becoming lucid, did what I normally do when I stop dreaming, which is to reflect upon what had transpired in the dream.  Normally, this is helpful, considering that it helps me to remember my dreams, but I'm a little confused as to why I wasn't able to do anything *but* this during lucidity...

I'll keep your tips in mind.  Hopefully, I'll have more success the next time I have a dream...
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 02, 2009, 01:14:05 am
your explanation is a likely answer.

when we become lucid different parts of our minds that are usually not doing much kick into gear. And what happened to you could just be a side effect of that.

I just had a thought, could you talk at all,make any noise in the slightest. If the next time this happens i want you to do this.

yell out in the dream exactly what you want to happen, I can guarantee you that what you yell out will happen in the dream, maybe not exactly what you say but it WILL effect the dream world.


It's all now about learning control over the dream world, it will be as easy or as hard as you expect it to be, but what I tell you here WILL help you.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaiyoki on February 04, 2009, 04:19:54 am
I killed myself in a dream once, got run over by an MRT. :P I woke up instantly and flew out of bed, it wasn't a pleasant experience...
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Baako on February 08, 2009, 06:07:36 pm
Its never really bothered me, but I can never remember any of my dreams, it just seems as if I close my eyes then open them again and it's suddenly the morning...

Any advice? I really would like to remember a dream, just to see what it's like.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 08, 2009, 06:45:42 pm
Its never really bothered me, but I can never remember any of my dreams, it just seems as if I close my eyes then open them again and it's suddenly the morning...

Any advice? I really would like to remember a dream, just to see what it's like.

I suggest that if you cant rememebr anything to do exactly this,

before going to bed have a glass of apple juice, then set your allarm for 4-5 hours after falling asleep, you should be in a late rem cycle and your dreams at there most vivid. now when you alarm wakes you up you should be able to remember something about your dreams. AND as soon as you wake up talk about your dreams out loud to your self. this should help them stay in your mind for the day.

good luck and happy dreaming.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Arbutus on February 08, 2009, 08:08:43 pm
Huh. Maybe I'll try that too. I never remember my dreams either... even if I wake up in the middle of a dream, I usually forget it by the time I get to my alarm clock. :(
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 08, 2009, 10:48:50 pm
Huh. Maybe I'll try that too. I never remember my dreams either... even if I wake up in the middle of a dream, I usually forget it by the time I get to my alarm clock. :(
for such an exteamly week dream memory i would suggest keeping a tape recorder near you bed so EXACTLY when you get up you talk out loud about your dreams to the recorded, it puts the dream into a whole new memory area since you did actions regarding the dream, which dont fall under the same super week memory that dreams are usually under.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Alexandre on February 16, 2009, 02:21:32 pm
Wow.

I just had my second lucid dream last night.  My friends and I had been talking about lucid dreaming yesterday, and I seemed to remember that.

My sister and I were riding a roller-coaster that was attached to some wires, and it broke.  The guy in charge came and gave some speech, and we left.  While running away, I started thinking, "Wait.  Roller coasters don't have wires that are THAT frayed without having someone work on them.  This isn't real life.  This is a dream."  BAM!  It was lucid.  Everything was so colorful!

My sister came over and talked to me, and everything got all cloudy and monochromatic.  I just reached up with both my hands and made the clouds separate from the sun so the colors would come back.  It was simply amazing.

The lucid part didn't last long, but it still happened!  For some reason, though, my lucid dreams have both had extremely bright and shiny colors.  I love it.  :)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 16, 2009, 02:31:21 pm
The lucid part didn't last long, but it still happened!  For some reason, though, my lucid dreams have both had extremely bright and shiny colors.  I love it.  :)

that's because your mind is putting more effort into the dream since your aware of it, that's y everything becomes clearer and better looking.


And congrats on your second lucid.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aurora on February 16, 2009, 03:29:21 pm
Wow.

I just had my second lucid dream last night.  My friends and I had been talking about lucid dreaming yesterday, and I seemed to remember that.

My sister and I were riding a roller-coaster that was attached to some wires, and it broke.  The guy in charge came and gave some speech, and we left.  While running away, I started thinking, "Wait.  Roller coasters don't have wires that are THAT frayed without having someone work on them.  This isn't real life.  This is a dream."  BAM!  It was lucid.  Everything was so colorful!

My sister came over and talked to me, and everything got all cloudy and monochromatic.  I just reached up with both my hands and made the clouds separate from the sun so the colors would come back.  It was simply amazing.

The lucid part didn't last long, but it still happened!  For some reason, though, my lucid dreams have both had extremely bright and shiny colors.  I love it.  :)

that sounds amazing, i'v had a few lucids but i've never been able to have total control over them
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 20, 2009, 07:19:59 pm
well i feel as though i might as well update my lucid stuff here, lately i've been having a terriblle dry spell and not having any lucids at all.

but inside of the past week they've all come rushing back to me.

in 3 nights i had a AMAZING lucid with great controle, a nearly completed dream rentry(i was lucid instantly but the dream faded to fast), and another dream where i became lucid but tried something way out there and caused it to fail inside of 20 seconds.

i'm also becoming better at dream reentry and instant lucids. I feel like im maybe hitting a point of clarity to this.

o well, i'm just really happy about this and feel like sharing  :)


And remember guys get back to me on if any of the stuff i've been advising is working.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kinshi on February 25, 2009, 02:43:43 pm
still have only gotten one lucid, however, i did have this 'half-lucid-thingy-conscious' dream

i KNEW i was dreaming, using my dream check (finally found it, in my dreams , if i poke my finger through my hand , it stretches and bones crackle), and i was like, 'AK-47 GET' , to chase of the giant worm...but i only got a small gun  :o i did have a degree of control , but everytihng i wanted was toned down (which means no tanks, machine guns, giant wings, or full fursona transformation  >:( ) i got a small gun and a piece of coal instead of the giant gun and meteor... any advice on this? (1 in 2 dreams is in this strange toned down lucid state now, i get like 3 of them per week, i remember a lot of dreams, but i don't have full control  :o i already tried pep-talking myself into 'if those guys can do it, i must be able to do so too' but i doesn't quite work.)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on February 25, 2009, 02:48:47 pm
still have only gotten one lucid, however, i did have this 'half-lucid-thingy-conscious' dream

i KNEW i was dreaming, using my dream check (finally found it, in my dreams , if i poke my finger through my hand , it stretches and bones crackle), and i was like, 'AK-47 GET' , to chase of the giant worm...but i only got a small gun  :o i did have a degree of control , but everytihng i wanted was toned down (which means no tanks, machine guns, giant wings, or full fursona transformation  >:( ) i got a small gun and a piece of coal instead of the giant gun and meteor... any advice on this? (1 in 2 dreams is in this strange toned down lucid state now, i get like 3 of them per week, i remember a lot of dreams, but i don't have full control  :o i already tried pep-talking myself into 'if those guys can do it, i must be able to do so too' but i doesn't quite work.)

dude thats it, that is a lucid.
the thing is that in the dream you have to remember that it's your mind everything you see and hear and feel is in your head.

one way to get your luid powers up is to just do a bunch of reality checks and watch them fail in front of your eyes and use that to drill the fact that it's your dream into your mindset.

Also try yelling out what you want to happen while your trying to have it happen, that is a great way to increase the control.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Rimpala on March 24, 2009, 10:59:39 am
Will have to say I've acutally had one of these in recient memory where I managed to turn myself into an okapi  :D

Why okapi I'll never know.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Leon the Coyote on March 26, 2009, 01:01:09 am
Now I've Been trying to Lucid Dream for a while and i get some mild control over my dreams every so often. By those few dreams are just OMG....If anyone wakes me b4 i wake myself i will give them such a verbal thrashing. I cant stand when someone stops me from being my Fursona in dream or when I'm in a dream that's full of action (Fighting) or i have the power of flight...Anyways a few tips i know help are:

Keep a dream diary- I know people have said this but it HELPS so i cant stress it enough.

Draw something on your hand b4 you fall asleep- Sometimes this helps since when you enter the dream world and you can tell the writing that should be there isn't. It will help with the realization that you are no longer in reality.

Try and keep your den quite or minimize noise and other influences- Sometimes outside sources will affect your dream in certain ways and you will lack or even lose the control over your dreams. I cant count how many times i fought and dreamed in Spanish because i crashed on my couch and someone started playing Resident Evil 4 while i was asleep.

Sleeping with your eyes open- This is extremely hard to control. I cant do it myself but every so often it happens. And sometimes it will either kill a lucid dream by visuals acting as an outside influence or on the other hand it will help by giving you some massive detail...I can remember scaring the life outta my brother cause of this...I dreamed that we were under sniper fire and when he walked in to the room. he saw me babbling with my eyes open but i was asleep anyways when he got close to me i tackled him to put him in cover in my dream and tried to tackle him in reality. but he just dodged me and i walked myself to bed in my sleep.

Age Factor- It is a sad fact of life that as the average person grows older the ability to Lucid Dream is one That has to be fought for with every ounce of will...I find it tougher and more draining to lucid dream then it did say 5 years ago.

I know i myself am still trying to achieve stable and more controlled Lucid dreaming but these tips should help get the person trying to achieve Lucid dreams, get them and i still practice them myself cause any bit of help usually stays and works and ever improves with time
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: honest_abe2008 on March 26, 2009, 04:39:00 pm
i think i have a problem,lately i havent even been dreaming instead everything will be completely black and it will only seem like its been five minutes then i wake up and its already morning
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on March 26, 2009, 05:51:50 pm
i think i have a problem,lately i havent even been dreaming instead everything will be completely black and it will only seem like its been five minutes then i wake up and its already morning

I got a few questions for you, to help me get a better understanding as so i can help you.


1. Have you recently changed your sleep cycle?

2. Have you recently changer where you sleep?

3. Are you under any stress?

4. Have you recently changed any medication you might be taking?

5. And finaly, are you sick in any way?

aAl of these factors can drastically change how well you sleep as well as your dreams.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaiyoki on April 05, 2009, 01:09:01 pm
i think i have a problem,lately i havent even been dreaming instead everything will be completely black and it will only seem like its been five minutes then i wake up and its already morning

I got that most nights starting from over 2 years ago, I wasn't aware it was an actual problem...
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aleya Lunara on April 06, 2009, 12:26:09 pm
Alright, I had this awkward problem when I slept last. I was in the middle of a nightmare, and I did catch it and enter the lucid state. However, I could not change the contents of the nightmare. The only thing I could do was control myself. I don't know what went wrong, but by the time I did wake up, I was terrified. I was wondering if I could possibly get some advice on changing a nightmare into something else. They seem so much scarier in the lucid state than they do normally.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kinshi on April 06, 2009, 01:14:23 pm
i think i have a problem,lately i havent even been dreaming instead everything will be completely black and it will only seem like its been five minutes then i wake up and its already morning

I got that most nights starting from over 2 years ago, I wasn't aware it was an actual problem...
I used to do that, then i read about lucid dreaming...then i started having dreams. it's weird, i was like I WANT to dream, and then i actually dream, i still don't have control about what i dream, unless it's a lucid of course.
(also, a quick question, I heard that you dream about what you're thinking of when you fall asleep, is this true? because then i could think about the toilet. (seeing as i ALWAYS do reality checks when i'm in the bathroom) Could be pretty handy, so i'd be able to actually force lucids.)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Greeblig Venn Aridarr on April 06, 2009, 03:06:36 pm
All of my lucid dreams involve flying. I once became a seagull and flew over the ocean; another time, I purposefully transformed myself into a dragon (I stretched out the webbing between my fingers to form wings.)

More recently, I have been plagued by sleep-paralysis. I occasionally feel as though small children are climbing on me as I lie in bed, and can hear their voices. Once, as I lay in bed, I opened my eyes to see a small, ghostly apparition of a girl floating in the corner of the room. She wafted towards me, and slipped into my mouth like an icy wind. She slipped in and out of my throat several times like this, whispering "Come to me". Each time she entered me, I felt weaker and weaker.

I also have sleep paralysis hallucinations involving caterpillar-like monsters that sodomize me and do other horrible things. It's not as fun as it sounds, trust me... I'm terrified of caterpillars.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on April 06, 2009, 03:44:53 pm
All of my lucid dreams involve flying. I once became a seagull and flew over the ocean; another time, I purposefully transformed myself into a dragon (I stretched out the webbing between my fingers to form wings.)

More recently, I have been plagued by sleep-paralysis. I occasionally feel as though small children are climbing on me as I lie in bed, and can hear their voices. Once, as I lay in bed, I opened my eyes to see a small, ghostly apparition of a girl floating in the corner of the room. She wafted towards me, and slipped into my mouth like an icy wind. She slipped in and out of my throat several times like this, whispering "Come to me". Each time she entered me, I felt weaker and weaker.

I also have sleep paralysis hallucinations involving caterpillar-like monsters that sodomize me and do other horrible things. It's not as fun as it sounds, trust me... I'm terrified of caterpillars.

those sound like some VERY bad hipnagogik hallucinations, the best way to stop those is to instead of fighting them, just ignore them and enter the dream world, alot of the time that can happen with out you even realizing it, and your already in the dream, you just have to realize that none of it is real and only in your mind.



Alright, I had this awkward problem when I slept last. I was in the middle of a nightmare, and I did catch it and enter the lucid state. However, I could not change the contents of the nightmare. The only thing I could do was control myself. I don't know what went wrong, but by the time I did wake up, I was terrified. I was wondering if I could possibly get some advice on changing a nightmare into something else. They seem so much scarier in the lucid state than they do normally.

well when your lucid your mind is spending more energy on the dream, and thus its more realistic and clearer.
 
one of the main reasons people get into lucid dreaming is to FIGHT nightmares, and I mean fight like use your own dream powers to combat the evil in the dream.

If your having trouble with control I suggest to continually remind your self it's a dream, try doing several reality check, and once you've completely convinced yourself that it's a dream, the using powers, like flying away or you can even just yell at what ever bad is happening to stop, and it should. Remember its only a dream and no matter what you think nothing bad can happen to you, it's only in your mind, and since its your mind take back control.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Aleya Lunara on April 07, 2009, 12:02:24 am
 I did indeed try to fight my nightmare, but I was quickly and efficiently stomped out no matter many times I tried. I never reached the point of omnipotence, and could not speak, something was preventing all sound from escaping me. I was killed many times before I woke up at the point of extreme terror. For some reason I can't face off against my own nightmares. What would be an effective way of performing a reality check? Thank you for looking at this for me.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on April 07, 2009, 12:48:59 am
A reality check is something you do to make sure your dreaming these include.

pushing your finger through the palm. In the dream your hand should streatch like rubber or you finger could just go through your hand.

try counting your fingers. In the dream you might have move than five, less than five, they could be disfigured, or be something totally different.

My favorite
you look at a digital clock. It should be going crazy. the numbers could be letters, or there could be 20 digits in the clock all moving and changing.
This one looks really cool

plug you nose and try to breath through it. In the dream since your real hand isn't covering your nose you can breath through it just fine. This is a very strange feeling.

Look at the ground. In the dream It should look different than it normally does. Like its made out of the wrong material.

I came up with this one
Bite your tongue. Since your in the dream world your experience no pain so your tongue should feel numb, You would only be experiencing the pressure not the pain.

if you do these in the dream this will repeatedly prove to you your dreaming, and will increase control rather nicely.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Greeblig Venn Aridarr on April 08, 2009, 02:26:58 am
I lucid-dreamed last night. I tested to see if I was dreaming by trying to alter my body (I made my nose long and pointed.) I tried to transform into a dinosaur, but it only half worked and I ended up moving like a dinosaur, but still human shaped. At one point, I woke up and was paralyzed (I could hear that static-hissing and see my bedroom) I did what you advised me to do, Hayaikawa, and just allowed myself to fall sleep again by not fighting it. I was inside the living room of my house, flying (floating to the ceiling.) I decide to try and get outside, but I can't get through the window. I think I must have managed to make myself float through it somehow, because the next thing I know I'm outside, on a film set containing my house. It's all deserted. I'm still floating, and I see a mirror. I decide to look, so I can see how I really perceive myself in my own mind. I am wearing my ordinary clothes (hat, coat and boots.) My face is unnaturally thin and attenuated, my eyes cold and hard... and the entire right side of my face is pinkish and raw, as though it had been burned recently and was still not healed.

I realize I'm in an office building, and I float out into a corridor. There are workers there, and they are all animals. (a weasel and an elephant I recall vividly)

They are in a board meeting of some kind, and I get fed up so I decide to try and manifest a unicorn. I visualize a door made of plywood, and open it. It there it is! It's pure white, with golden, transparent hooves and pink eyes. But it has an unusually small head, and it doesn't look well. It begins to mutate until it becomes it tiny, white thing resembling an alien-queen chestburster (from the alien movies).

Then I started to get paranoid that I would accidentally manifest a caterpillar, so I woke myself up.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on April 08, 2009, 02:31:11 am
I lucid-dreamed last night. I tested to see if I was dreaming by trying to alter my body (I made my nose long and pointed.) I tried to transform into a dinosaur, but it only half worked and I ended up moving like a dinosaur, but still human shaped. At one point, I woke up and was paralyzed (I could hear that static-hissing and see my bedroom) I did what you advised me to do, Hayaikawa, and just allowed myself to fall sleep again by not fighting it. I was inside the living room of my house, flying (floating to the ceiling.) I decide to try and get outside, but I can't get through the window. I think I must have managed to make myself float through it somehow, because the next thing I know I'm outside, on a film set containing my house. It's all deserted. I'm still floating, and I see a mirror. I decide to look, so I can see how I really perceive myself in my own mind. I am wearing my ordinary clothes (hat, coat and boots.) My face is unnaturally thin and attenuated, my eyes cold and hard... and the entire right side of my face is pinkish and raw, as though it had been burned recently and was still not healed.

I realize I'm in an office building, and I float out into a corridor. There are workers there, and they are all animals. (a weasel and an elephant I recall vividly)

They are in a board meeting of some kind, and I get fed up so I decide to try and manifest a unicorn. I visualize a door made of plywood, and open it. It there it is! It's pure white, with golden, transparent hooves and pink eyes. But it has an unusually small head, and it doesn't look well. It begins to mutate until it becomes it tiny, white thing resembling an alien-queen chestburster (from the alien movies).

Then I started to get paranoid that I would accidentally manifest a caterpillar, so I woke myself up.


Congratulations, you pulled off quite a few difficult things rather easily.

When you looked into the mirror, that is always a good reality check since it is almost ALWAYS wrong, and just looking into a mirror will get people lucid a lot of the time.

Also kudos on summoning the door and using it effectively, you got the basics down but just need to work on making it exactly what you want instead of similar.


Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 08, 2009, 09:01:16 am
Hayaikawa, I wan't to bring up a trick I use.

When you are in a tough spot, fighting for your life, etc, look down at your hands. Somehow, this gives you control. I think it short-circuts something in your sleeping brain. What I mean is, it's like it activates circuits of conscious control. In the dream world, it arms me.

I think that's primal. So look at your hands when you need.

Also, I have noticed that reading will wake me up. In RL, I can read upside down and backwards, but if I try to read something in dreamworld, it always wakes me up.

I believe that reading in dreams activates waking conscious circuits in the brain. That is, you must be conscious to read, so the mind wakes you up so that you can consciously understand. This is a natural function of the language center of the brain.

This is why you can only start to read books in your dreams, but never finish them without waking.

Do you have a different experience?

P.S. It's time we hammered all this stuff out.

- Wingshadows, serial dreamer.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 08, 2009, 09:59:30 am
Hello Baako, Arbitas: just wanting to remember your dreams will bring that much closer to lucidity.

By desiring to understand yourself, you will set in motion a chain-reaction or whatever you want to call it: the human mind is, amoung other things, a bio-feedback mechanism.

Then you must cross the Abyss. I'm not joking: the time will come when you are afraid to understand your dreams. That is the gulf you must pass.

BY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR DREAMS, YOU WILL DREAM MORE LUCIDLY. Keep a dream journal. Do you understand?

Most people you meet in the real world are afraid to understand themselves. You must pass beyound this point.

There is enlightenment in here. Your subconscious mind is trying to tell you something important, in the only way that it can. And it is a part of you, never forget that.

And your mind will generate allies in your quest. For me, it was a man and a woman who where very wise.

Seriously, seek and ye shall find.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on April 08, 2009, 02:51:08 pm
Hayaikawa, I wan't to bring up a trick I use.

When you are in a tough spot, fighting for your life, etc, look down at your hands. Somehow, this gives you control. I think it short-circuts something in your sleeping brain. What I mean is, it's like it activates circuits of conscious control. In the dream world, it arms me.

I think that's primal. So look at your hands when you need.

Also, I have noticed that reading will wake me up. In RL, I can read upside down and backwards, but if I try to read something in dreamworld, it always wakes me up.

I believe that reading in dreams activates waking conscious circuits in the brain. That is, you must be conscious to read, so the mind wakes you up so that you can consciously understand. This is a natural function of the language center of the brain.

This is why you can only start to read books in your dreams, but never finish them without waking.

Do you have a different experience?

P.S. It's time we hammered all this stuff out.

- Wingshadows, serial dreamer.

The hands thing is a form of reality check, where most of the time your hands in the dream doesnt lokk right, like you have more fingers or some are short or something, and when you see this you brain tries to  compensate for the messed up visual by making the dream more vivid, and it is this action that leads to increased lucidity and control.

And the exact same thing happens when reading in the dream, words in dreams for what ever reason take a LOT of mental power to visualize and remember, for example take a look at some newspaper artical, can you memorize the whole thing? Probably not, so when your in the dream and try to MAKE the artical you have to have a semi permanent exact memory of the text, and when you try to do that it takes a LOT more brain power to keep the dream going and the dream will usually fail if you try to put  to much effort into reading.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Leon the Coyote on April 08, 2009, 08:30:43 pm
I dont seem to have much trouble with reading in dreams, most of the time if i read in a dream either it's been relavent to the dream or something that triggers the lucid, but not rather by making it more vivid but switching it to another subject with me having absolute control...but i think the reading doesnt bother me too much because i devote hours a day to reading and have a photographic memory.

As far as reality checks go yes the hands can be a trigger for a lucid and is quite often a very effective trigger but i found out taht after keeping a dream journal for a while I saw common triggers as to waht starts a lucid dream so now in addition to reality checks I can also pick out things around me that signal when i've entered the dream world, but of course they are personal triggers so these ones in particular are really a me only thing
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 14, 2009, 05:07:18 am
Hayaikawa, are we both saying that using the mind wakes us up?

Chirgath, are you telling me that you can read more than a few pages of a book in your dreams? That floors me, it really does. I spent years fighting through ruins, killing mutants, watching people slaughtered by robots, etc....

All that time I was searching for the enemy plans. I wanted to save the dream people from slaughter. We fought beside each other.

I think i tend to wake up when the message starts to become clear. Chirgath, is the message ever truly explained to you?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 14, 2009, 06:07:24 am
Let me tell you about the world I dream about. Like all serial dreamers, it is consistant,
although sometimes I have dreams in reverse sequence (end first, then backwards to the
beginning).

As best as I can tell, this is the origen dream: I'm in a hallway, and on the walls are the history of the world. It starts in an unreadreadable script, but as as I walk forward I can start to read it. On my left hand side are pictograms of farmers and battles and cities, then names and dates, but that is unimportant. I follow it up towards modern history. A voice is narrating it to me.

It breaks into English, and now I understand it. I mean, I can read it. I follow it into the nuclear age. I read about Vietnam and stuff. But I mean, I don't care about Atlantis and all the things in the past, I keep going.

The hallway I'm in comes to a stop at one point, and then it takes a sharp left turn. The point it turns at is the present.

To this day I wish I had spent more time looking at the past, because I swear a voice was trying to tell me about Atlantis or something.

Anyway, I turn around the corner, and it goes a few more feet and ends in a blank wall. I mean, it's right there in front of me. History takes a sharp turn and ends.

It goes a few more feet. But I don't recall what's written on it, because I wake up at that point. Horror.

The end is a blank wall. And I hope that part is where I die, instead of everybody. And you just can't dream about what comes after your death. Because it comes to an end.

But, and I want to ask the others about this, I'm not the only one who has had this dream.

For about ten years I've browsed dream forums and I've come across others who also have has the "hallway of history turning left and ending" dream.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Leon the Coyote on April 14, 2009, 10:54:38 am
I can only read when it is relavant to the dream but other then that i really dont read, i just know i have the ability.

Most of my dreams are filled with action, happyness, sadness, and the whole spectrum of emotions, and feelings.

Just a few weeks ago i can remember being in combat with a squad i command and being pinned down by snipers. Next thing i see is my brother dashing in the open so i run to jump tackle him into cover not giving a care as to my well being. The dream takes all sorts of twists and turns after that.(All at my command).but mostly it just involves fighting the enemy in dramatic sequences

That's just one dream of hundreds of action packed dreams which i never know what i'm gonna step into....For my lucid dreaming i preview the dream then alter it to my whim then run through it. Sometimes it's a sandbox world though. It's never the same either at least not for a while. I've visited space, fantasy worlds, fought through zombie infection, Blasted and befriended demons as required, and whole other things that would just blow your mind.

It is through some common factors that all my dreams become quite clear as to what they are, although there is no reality to it. The common factors show what i am and parts of me i would not have found out otherwise. and other parts i knew but the dreams seem to show it by playing out scenarios same or not.

What i found out is taht:
I am a protector, In all dreams the common factor is i protect people, or animals

I am a leader, I knew this but in my dreams i'm always taking point and giving orders.

I am resiliant and stubborn to a fault. Never in my dreams will i ever give up EVER, even if i know the outcome is bad for me.

I am a tactile person, If i'm not building, manipulating or otherwise using something there is something wrong in the dream and i am not having a lucid or it's just a dream where i can relax becaue life is chaos.

Flight is me, 4 of 5 dreams i will posses the power of flight or at leaast some form of it

So really just cause i can read in a dream doesnt mean i do it all the time and just spend the time reading that would be a waste of my dreaming abilities. Now on the other hand it does mean my dreams can be more vivid, with one drawback...I have been locked into a dream and been unable to wake myself up even though i know it's but a dream. These have lead to some scary and tryly awakening moments. Sometimes i have to be shaken awake but most people are happy to since i'm screaming and babling. So really reading in dreams does say something about someone and increases the vividness of the dream vistas visited

Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaloth on April 14, 2009, 03:50:35 pm
I have been away from this thread for a while, but I saw a point a while back that I would like to address. Another tip for being able to recall your dreams is to work on your memory. I did this for a good long time, and find my memory incredibly... powerful? Every night before you fall asleep, write down everything that happened during the day. If you want include thoughts and feelings, but the important part is to make sure you get every little detail. The more you work at it the better your memory will become, and the more you will be able to remember dreams. Oh and also a dream journal is a wonderful thing.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 19, 2009, 02:38:19 am
Chirgath, we have something in common.

Let me tell you about Backworld.

I have a consistant dreamworld setting. Like you I am fighting. Like you I tend to lead small units, or rescue small groups of people from the enemy. Perhaps like you, Backworld is much like the real world, only abandoned and run down.

But the people aren't just gone. I first noticed years ago when I walked into an Albertsons parking-lot, emptied of cars, and there where row after row of skeletons. They had been  lined up and executed. I walked through a parking lot that was turned into a graveyard. People had been rounded up and deliberately shot. And then the truth started to come out.

Genocide is a common theme in Backworld.

And the trains run on time. I've hopped trains, and I've seen the prisoners. And I've watched them roll past me while I watched the tracks.

And it's called Backworld, because that's what the survivors on the outskirts call it, implying that the source is at it's center.

I've tried to penetrate it on many occasions, going in with others, in buses, by train, walking, you name it. By myself, and with other small groups of soldiers.

So let me tell you about the enemy. In my dreams, I face something that could not possibly be a vision of the future. Rather, I'm facing some kind of psychological source of evil.

For instance, my enemies include the undead. I can't conceive of a future where the dead rise from their graves. I once went through Miami on a hijacked tour bus trying to reach the capitol building, and we had to skirt around a family planning clinic. Nothing is more horrifying than walking into an abortion clinic of the undead. And that is just to unreal to be prescient, so it must be somehow psychological.

I suspect my enemy comes from within. My battle against evil is a battle against the Id. And I see that played out nightly in my dreams.

And I have to ask myself: why fight? If this is the inside core of my being, why am I trying to oppose it?

Well, I can't cotton to evil, and somebody is going to get his butt kicked. Somewhere inside my mind, there is some kind of central command bunker or something, and probably somebody is in charge of it. And somehow I know I am being tortured every night by some abstract concept or something that a) needs a good butt-kicking, and b) should stop torturing me.

I hope your situation is better than mine, but anyway, keep dreaming.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on April 19, 2009, 07:24:50 pm
well, as for light to be shed on your dream world,
 to me its just another dream, with just slight differences I'll admit, but still just a dream.

I can give you decent advice on things to try if your lucid in this world, but its up to you to decide on weather or not you want to know them, or feel you can even use them.


Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 19, 2009, 07:25:21 pm
I want to tell you more about my dreams.It got some furry bits in it, so bear with me.

Chirgath, this may be important to you.

I'm trying to find the "enemy commander" of my combat dreams. I have met leaders before, and I know some kind of hierarchy is present. On the lowest level are dream figures called "Brutons", which are like malformed, neanderthalish people. They have a type of "super-bruton" leader, which carries a small stone on his belt covered with runes. The stone works like a walkie-talkie.

I confronted one after I had slain his squad. He drove up in some kind of police 4x4 vehicle (this happened in a field in the country, surrouned by scrub trees, with a dirt road leading into it), and got out and walked towards me. I shot him in the head with a shotgun, but he kinda' shrugged it off.

I'm using a pump action, so I keep firing. I blow consecutive levels of his face off, knocking him to the ground. I mean, beneath each face is another face. I stand over him, and the final face is that of child, looking back up at me like that scene in "The Empire Strikes Back" where Luke meets Anakin in the place Yoda told him not to go.

Another type of leader is what I used to call "the black-robed sorcerers". They can fly, and infest important building in the ruins, which I suspect they turn into colleges to create more black robed sorcerers.

Anyway, I descided to hunt one down and make him talk. I caught up to one in the ruins, and I wailed on him with my way-cool dream telekinesis (which feels like using a phantom arm - note to self; the next time I corner one it's getting a psychokentic wedgie just for fun .

I expected him to fight back back with magic, but instead he turned into a black cat and ran. So I turned into a fox and chased him. I caught up to him in an allyway, and went straight for his little black cat throat. I chomped him, and then I worried his head off.

I wanted to make sure he was dead, so I carried his head in my little fox jaws to a small living pool, with clear water and plants and stuff. And I dropped his head into it, and a turtle came up and ate it.

Now, I realize that the sorcerers aren't alive at all: no blood. It should have spattered everywhere, and I should have tasted it. The black robed figures are undead necromancers.

Anyway, I want to tell you about my bad-butt dream powers. I can fly, I have telekinesis. I can see in the dark. I can heal the dying by laying on hands and "opening something up", I'm not sure how better to describe that sensation.

And I am one hell of a well armed marksman. And sometimes, I can shrug off weapon hits.

Also, I've become a number of animals. I'm a shape-shifter. I've only been the fox once, but I've been wolves several times, birds a few times, and once a sea serpent.

I've also been a silver scaled Manticore, but that is another story.

I have also died a few times. And come back. And once, I had my right leg amputated by doctors in a hospital. I could *feel* it, as they took my leg away from me.

Anyway, for me vivid dreaming is a mixed back of horror and awesome, and I await with baited breathe any light anybody else can shed on it.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 19, 2009, 07:44:31 pm
Can I get a moderator to delete the poorly formatted version of my above post? Reply #268? I fixed it in reply #270.

I don't wan't anybody to have to suffer through reading that.

Over and out.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kobuk on April 19, 2009, 07:58:46 pm
Quote
Can I get a moderator to delete the poorly formatted version of my above post? Reply #268? I fixed it in reply #270.

I don't wan't anybody to have to suffer through reading that.

Over and out.

Fixed. ;)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 19, 2009, 08:00:56 pm
Any advice from fellow lucid dreamers would be welcome, Hayaikawa.

P.S. I just realized I can modify my own posts, so I'm deleting the bad formated one in #268 myself.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kobuk on April 19, 2009, 08:15:50 pm
Too late. Read my post above. I already fixed your problem like you wanted.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on April 19, 2009, 08:21:12 pm
Any advice from fellow lucid dreamers would be welcome, Hayaikawa.

well, if your looking for the source of the dream world, the core of it, I suggest finding your dream guide.

It's basically a manifestation of your subconscious.

there are many ways to summon your dream guide, from just yelling for them to show up, to opening a door and expecting them to be there.

You should be able to ask your dream guide many things, they can even help you with certain tasks.



Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Leon the Coyote on April 19, 2009, 09:44:49 pm
I like the dreams but i cant seem to think of anything taht would make sense as an explanation of waht it could mean...I'll have to think on it...btw those dreams sound crazy vivid...sometimes i cant stand vivid dreams or at least when i lose control of them...When i do alot of the time they go bad and i get locked in a dream, and have to be woken up by an outside source...When i start screaming is when people come to wake me..anyways I'll respond again if i cna think of something
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 20, 2009, 02:54:19 am
Thanks Kobuk. I won't abuse my mod powers (more than most, I understand the need for restraint).
Hayaikawa, I've actually met the dream figures that are supposed to guide me.

Um, I'm part Comanche, so you can ignore this sentence, but do pure blood Europeans experience anything like this? I'm just curious. Well, OK, I want to know.

My spirit guides are a man and a woman: parent figures. I mean, I feel the Great Spirit, but he never sends me animal missionaries. Instead, a man and a woman tell me that I can have anything I want. Let me give you an example:

It's dark, and I'm walking along a beach. Ahead is a camp fire. I walk up to it; it's my friends and stuff. We talk, but the dream becomes lucid. I'm here because I'm looking for answers. One of the people around the campfire is not like the others. She is a witch, or a wise-woman.

I look into her eyes and ask: "what is the source of your power?"
And she takes my hand in hers, and we start to fly. We fly above the clouds, and I distinctly remember looking down at the cloud-tops. And we keep climbing.

We travel into orbit of the Earth. Ahead is a kind of battle-fortress, in orbit. We travel to it. I leave her, and I go into the fortress, and it's a lot like a stairway dream, where you endlessly try to find something in a maze of hallways and stairs and stuff.

But I find it. Inside the fortress, in orbit of the Earth, is a small room where there is a single point of light, inside of a locked box. And from that light-source are coming thoughts, and I experience them in exactly the same way that the dying soldier described "The Domain of Er" to Plato 2,500 years ago": that is, I see the center of my own mind.

In a locked box, in a fortress, in orbit of the Earth.

An inaccessible location.

That is probably the deepest I have ever probed into what it means to be a lucid dreamer.

And for the rest of you, all you need do is keep a dream journal. The human mind is a bio-feedback engine, so the decision to try to understand your dreams is simply the first step. And that very decision will begin to awaken you.

And, ahem, for some, it will be an awakening of horror.

But you have to take the good with the bad.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on April 24, 2009, 07:38:36 am
"Beware of Evil, in all of it's many forms."

Those whe the first words the mayor of Miami wrote on a scroll, sitting on his desk. I have trouble reading in my dreams, but the skeleton in the chair behind the desk gave me thought.

I fought long and hard to get into the capitol building. And we where pursued by The Dark. And that is where they came for us in full force. In the dream, we where able to use the official seals (the stamps and stuff), to seal doorways, so The Dark couldn't enter. But I saw it. And also, I've been killed by it, and when I awoke I came back as one of The Dark.

I'm not sure what The Dark is. It looks like jumping shadows that steal the light from buildings and hallways. The Dark destroys light, and it's appearence is the only time I can't see in the dark in my dreams. Normally, darkness in my dreams means nothing: I can see everything perfectly. But not like visionics of thermal imaging: imagine you can see everything, only the background is black.

And there are *things* in The Dark. Undead, like wraiths. When I was killed by The Dark, I arose the next night as one of them.

I remember trying to tell the Army about The Dark, but they where busy controlling escape routes from Miami, and it was daytime. Those battalions... when I left I was sure that none of those soldiers would be left alive after darkness fell, despite things like "atomic powered searxh-lights".

No, when I left, I was sure the leaping shadows of darkness where enveloping everything. And I already knew that nothing could stop it. But I did have a few cool scenes where I had to scrape zombie children of our hi-jacked school bus. And blow shotguns rounds into their limbs, to make them drop off.

Later, I had a dream where me and some other soldiers dug up a corpse that been sleeping in the ground, and exposed it to sunlight. That's where I learned that the only way to stop The Dark was to dig up those that had been consumed by it.

I think that changed the course of the battle, but I can't remember having any victory moments. God save those other soldeirs, though; they stayed behind and tried to fight. I was just afraid of The Dark, because it blinded me.: I can't fight what I cannot see, I just can't.

Sometimes valor, etc....

Still, I know that all things in my dreams are a part of me, and to this day I feel like I abandonded my post. Those soldiers where a part of myself, and I left them to die. And come back as part of The Dark. And I still ache to have stood beside them. Like the mayor.

When my team and I was tied down in the basement of the capitol building, waiting for daylight and putting official seals on all the entrances, I opened one of the doors, and I saw the shadows. The encroaching shadows. Leaping down the hallway, consuming the light.

P.S, I was told by a higher authority that after you read this, you will never sleep again. It's OK, though - you have to sleep, sooner or later, and when you do I will be there.

P.P.S: Just joking about that last part :)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on May 15, 2009, 04:35:15 am
Surely, somebody has to say something about vivid dreaming at this point.

If you don't, I will do it for you.

The world I dream of is in ruins. Lethal robots patrol the landscape. All important buildings are guarded or destroyed. Drone weapons hunt civilians.

You run for your life.

This may be the future. I'm a vivid dreamer, and like some of you I have had dreams that have come true. But more importantly, I have never had a dream that didn't come true. For instance, I watched a man drive a car down the access ramp of a local highway, right into a 18-wheeled rig, and die, only to hear about it on the radio the next day.

I had to sit there, and listen to what I watched in my dreams, play out on radio before breakfast. And I know how hard this sounds, but it happens over and over again. And I know how hard this is going to sound, but when people around me die, I dream about it before it happens.

We are all going to die.

It is coming. One example after another. And may God have mercy on our souls, because the machines won't. They will come for us, and they will come, and their is nothing we can do to stop them.

God help us all.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on May 15, 2009, 09:44:09 am
-.-

I can tell you straight up, thats never going to happen for like 3.

For one, i've had many friends say the same exact thing about there dreams only to have me explain it away.

Secondly, the whole machines taking over thing, is actually quite propostoris if you keep up with all that we are doing with machines. It just wont happen.

3rd, its just a dream. you pic and chose the things that are similar or the same and only focus on those, the number of things that DO NOT happen I'm sure beats out the similarities 10 fold.




On a different note, i had a semi lucid the other day, nothing really special about it, lasted like 30 seconds and i was barely away before I woke up. I seriously have to stop being so lazy and go back to writting my dreams down, my recall is absolutely terrible right now.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kinshi on May 15, 2009, 11:07:38 am
On a different note, i had a semi lucid the other day, nothing really special about it, lasted like 30 seconds and i was barely away before I woke up. I seriously have to stop being so lazy and go back to writting my dreams down, my recall is absolutely terrible right now.
I have only had 2 full lucids, and half of my dreams is semi-lucid...why won't my powers of FIRE AND FLAMES work...lol
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on May 19, 2009, 02:36:00 pm
*jumps up and down*

My ridiculous dry spell of only second long lucids has FINALLY ended.

last night i had one that lasted several minutes.

It wasn't anything special like becoming my fursona or finally getting a tail,
But I still managed to do a few things with out performing any reality checks.

I attempted to grow a tail in the lucid but only managed a large bulge on my rear end -.-
which actually woke me up.

I also managed to telepathically rip part of my house away by motioning my hand at it, very fun ^^

Other than that it was mostly just being aware it was a dream for a decent amount of time.

Also early in the morning I had remembered 3 different dreams, I only remember the lucid and bits of the second one, I spent way to much time doing things before writing them down. But this is all a great sign of things getting back to the way they were.

*does a happy dance*

Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Simo on May 20, 2009, 11:38:40 pm
Um, I'm part Comanche, so you can ignore this sentence, but do pure blood Europeans experience anything like this? I'm just curious. Well, OK, I want to know.

My spirit guides are a man and a woman: parent figures. I mean, I feel the Great Spirit, but he never sends me animal missionaries. Instead, a man and a woman tell me that I can have anything I want.

Yes.

I'm not going to discount any possibilities. The last scientist who thought he knew everything (William Thompson a.k.a. Lord Kelvin) ended up greatly embarrassing himself. If there is a Great Spirit out there, then he's ready to transmit whenever you are ready to receive. May be we'll have the answer some day when we get the flaws out of Quantum Physics. Or may be not.   (:
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: wingshadow on May 28, 2009, 07:52:24 am
Hayaikawa, Chirgath

I want to try an experiment.

I have been wondering for a long time if vivid dreamers can contact each other in their dreams.

Here is the plan: we try to to look for a book buried somewhere in a location that's hard to get to. For me, that means stairway dreams that go down, and down, deep into an important building: I suggest a library, but a university or a government building should do.

In that building, somewhere in the basement or the archives, look for a book.

Mutants, robots, sorcerers, whatever will try to get in your way. Show them no mercy, for they are the enemy. Go in with your team - they are part of you, don't leave them behind.

And write your real name in that book. I will write mine.

I will try to find it, regardless of the cost, because finding the truth is why I write my dreams down in a journal.

Just an experiment, of course.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on May 28, 2009, 05:35:22 pm
Hayaikawa, Chirgath

I want to try an experiment.

I have been wondering for a long time if vivid dreamers can contact each other in their dreams.

Here is the plan: we try to to look for a book buried somewhere in a location that's hard to get to. For me, that means stairway dreams that go down, and down, deep into an important building: I suggest a library, but a university or a government building should do.

In that building, somewhere in the basement or the archives, look for a book.

Mutants, robots, sorcerers, whatever will try to get in your way. Show them no mercy, for they are the enemy. Go in with your team - they are part of you, don't leave them behind.

And write your real name in that book. I will write mine.

I will try to find it, regardless of the cost, because finding the truth is why I write my dreams down in a journal.

Just an experiment, of course.

I'll do what i can in my next lucid, since I wont be able to go on such a quest in a regular dream.

But I don't know how long it will be before i have my next lucid.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kyrnz on August 04, 2009, 03:06:49 am
I remember having a lucid dream once, I have no idea how this came about but the dream was about Apollo 1 (the capsule that burned up during testing on the ground killing all inside). in this dream, crystal clear I shook hands with each of them and I watched them get in their capsule, I apparently knew what I was doing as I was messing with a control board of some sort then I hear "Fire in the cabin" and I rush out the doorway and wake up... kinda creepy to me
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Sanguine Foxxe on August 04, 2009, 12:53:15 pm
My interest in lucid dreaming was at a peak a few years back and has been in a steady decline, but in recent months I've begun to pick interest back up.

I've managed to re-teach myself the technique, and so long as I don't have any engagements or anything scheduled for the day, I'm usually at enough of a state of rest upon awakening to slip back under, into that grey area of sleep and awareness. I can usually get into a full lucid state rather than semi-lucid, and I do have some control - limited though it may be - over my dreams almost on a nightly/morning(..ly?) basis.

I've attempted various things in a lucid state (though I'm a bit untrained... my mind keeps getting away from me, and even though I'm still in control, I tend to get away from the point and don't think about it until awakening), but for some reason, "morphing" in a dream is something I've never been able to do.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Magical_HATz on November 19, 2009, 01:48:23 am
I've always been interested in lucid dreaming. Sometimes I get lucid dreams before I wake up and sometimes I don't. For the post part I don't dream at all. Might be due to college stress and either sleeping for too long of a period or too short of a period. I've been meaning to keep a dream log by my bed and now that my Mom helped me clean my dorm room, SHES AWESOME, I have a night table where I could put one! :D  I'll get to work on strengthening my dream recall since that's probably why I think I don't dream at all.

Speaking of dreams, does anyone know anything about meaning of things in dreams that aren't lucid? I've had at least 2 dreams in the past few years that involved me being in a scary rickety elevator. Is it a stress induced fear being manifested?

Any other tips other than keeping a dream log to help with dream recall? Not necessarily lucid dreaming, just inducing dreams in general?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Pom on November 26, 2009, 12:42:18 pm
I have quite a few mental "issues" and i keep a dream journal. I am starting to suspect I'm having lucid dreams more and more often, the only problem is that the part of me that controls my dreams is the part of my mind that is the "bad" part... I often wake up in cold sweat or in a state of wonder, I don't rely like this part of me as it makes me do counter-productive things ect. But sometimes looking back at what I've written in my journal these dreams tell me things about myself. However it isn't always stuff I want to know. What should i do?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 26, 2009, 04:23:11 pm
I have quite a few mental "issues" and i keep a dream journal. I am starting to suspect I'm having lucid dreams more and more often, the only problem is that the part of me that controls my dreams is the part of my mind that is the "bad" part... I often wake up in cold sweat or in a state of wonder, I don't rely like this part of me as it makes me do counter-productive things ect. But sometimes looking back at what I've written in my journal these dreams tell me things about myself. However it isn't always stuff I want to know. What should i do?


I'm prolly the wrong guy to answer a dream meeaning question cince i see dreams as just dreams nothing special or hidden meaning behind them.

but most of the time when people learn things in there dreams about themselves its usually just stuff they know in the back of there mind and are looking for a reason to bring it to the front and have it be more a part of what they know about themselves.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: DeltaFur on December 08, 2009, 08:35:06 pm
In my dreams, I never realize that I am dreaming. Once, I was so wound up in my dream of a day of University, I actually thought that I had gone to school in my dream. Although I never remembered getting up in the morning, hmm...  :D Lucid dreaming is out, for me. My dreams are mostly filled with me doing things like breaking my boundaries and doing something reckless and wild, just for the hell of it. Exploring buildings that had been destroyed by nuclear bombs many years ago, stealing bikes to chase girls and get to important appointments on time (at the same time, lol), that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: TundraVixen on December 23, 2009, 01:22:18 am
Wow..Im really tired right now ^^;
Yeah  so I've once had a dream that I embraced(hugged) a Fox ^w^ I recently started to love foxes since last year however cats have always been my fav animals!One way in which I had a 'lucid dream' was praying that I would dream of this certain guy whom I wanted to know about...I was thinking about him for a LONG time during the day!x3 So I did have a dream of him going out with another girl at some disney place...?Lol I was there and managed to remember him with another girl walking away...?It was like that so...yeah.Another recent dream involved a Furry Dream ^o^ Im so lucky right?Yeah so I dreamed...and in my dream I had felt my head and felt my fox ears...I had pictured the gray fox ears I had sown onto a head band to be those...I was walking after all.Then I remembered being in a odd boat-like place its hard to explain but yeah it rocked a bit..?I wanted to get off somehow chatted with two wolves like I remember being infront of something and seeing Wolf pictures represting the wolves and then me as Orange fox represented..I really have to draw it to explain it...so then I somehow ended up in a store where I looked over this phone area where phones were walkie-talkie ish and shaped like dog-related things like a bone lol so I talked into one and someone talked at the other line requesting food...'nom' lol.I dunno odd but lucid like dream?Most likely my lucid dreams have me morphing usually as a cat...never a fox...yet?LOOONG lolz...I hope I have a lucid dream tonight =3
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Zhono Veranhaut on January 11, 2010, 09:12:08 pm
Ah lucid dreams, I can't believe I just now noticed this thread!

They are pretty much constant for me. Some funny, some action-y, some scary, a few...erm...yiffy :-[, most make no since whatsoever... I've had them all.

One that particularly stands out in my mind was a visual representation of "I Am the Walrus" by The Beatles (I am obsessed with that song). What was weired (I mean other than the fact that I was having a dream about a song that The Beatles made specifically to confuse people) was that I wasn't even my fursona like usual, I was another one of my characters known as "Garren the Panther" (a nice change of pace if you ask me). I ended up having to save The Beatles (who were all arctic foxes; not beetles as one would expect) from some kicking penguins. Then I had to put them in an English garden before a girl named "Semolina Pilchard" climbed up the Eiffel Tower. I had to sit on a cornflake while wait for a van to come and take me to that English garden but the cornflake fell into some custard that was dripping from a dead dogs eye.

I ended up sinking into the custard and ending up in a room with policemen sitting in a row. It tuned out to be a bunch of those Russian dolls (you know, ones that can be stored inside one another). At that moment, I realized that I was dreaming, and started to look for a way out. Then I found a door that lead into a room with the Beatles tied up! I had to fight a giant penguin with a plastic spoon to get to them though. I jabbed the penguin in the foot, causing him to turn into a mushroom. A door appeared behind The Beatles and I carried them through the door. Behind the door was the Garden. I had made it just as Semolina reached the tip of the Eiffel Tower! The rest of the dream involved me listening to The Beatles play. After a while of this, everything froze. A door appeared in front of me. I opened the door... and woke up!

Yeah... My dreams can be a bit crazy. But they sure are fun! I wonder what my dream will be tonight...
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Sky Striker on January 20, 2010, 03:43:19 pm
I've really only had lucid dreams twice, and it was really odd how I became aware. One was realizing that I didn't receive my grades from school on a box and the second was realizing that I had been to this place in a dream before. Unfortunately both times after I became aware I only had control over myself, and then for some reason each time I gain awareness my dream slowly takes back control over me.

It's odd how that happens.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Shim on May 18, 2010, 11:12:42 pm
Bump, and,

I'm totally new to this, and even though I've read through most of the pages on this thread, I'm still not quite sure I understand everything, so I'm a complete newbie here.  I first heard about lucid dreaming a few months ago, and I was intrigued, but could never actually..do anything? (The blue indicates "NEWBIE STATEMENT").

Recently though, I've been having trouble remembering dreams, and after reading this thread, almost all the way through, I've learned that its hard NOT to have dreams.  Even if each scenario was only seconds, or minutes long, it still happened.

Any possible hint as to why I can't remember anything, when I try to make it a point to?  I've been keeping a journal, or rather, a page, so far, of random bits and pieces of a total of 3 dreams I've had? 

Lucid dreaming is something I'm very much interested in, but I have no idea where to start, because none of what the thread says seems to be working for me personally.  Any advice?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Avan on May 19, 2010, 12:00:26 am
I like to manipulate my dreams; going in, on and out. Well, can't really control the out part when the dream is disrupted mid-process, but I can do the first two.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaloth on May 19, 2010, 01:22:38 am
Bump, and,

I'm totally new to this, and even though I've read through most of the pages on this thread, I'm still not quite sure I understand everything, so I'm a complete newbie here.  I first heard about lucid dreaming a few months ago, and I was intrigued, but could never actually..do anything? (The blue indicates "NEWBIE STATEMENT").

Recently though, I've been having trouble remembering dreams, and after reading this thread, almost all the way through, I've learned that its hard NOT to have dreams.  Even if each scenario was only seconds, or minutes long, it still happened.

Any possible hint as to why I can't remember anything, when I try to make it a point to?  I've been keeping a journal, or rather, a page, so far, of random bits and pieces of a total of 3 dreams I've had? 

Lucid dreaming is something I'm very much interested in, but I have no idea where to start, because none of what the thread says seems to be working for me personally.  Any advice?

I have a few bits of advice for you, though I seem to be in the lucky minority where they have just... always happen for me. Anyways my advice, don't just try to keep a journal of your dreams (though that is a very good habit). First you need to be able to remember your dreams for a lucid dream to mean anything. Most people start with improving their memory in general (a good thing in the general course of life as I've found). Start by keeping a journal every night. Write down as many details, feelings, thoughts, anything really, about the day as you can remember. If you don't remember something, don't try to guess what it was because the empty hole in the journal will lead you to try to fill it in next time. If you want (I know I do) I come back to my journal the next morning (when I'm writing down my dreams) and make a few annotations on it.

Another thing about lucid dreams, is that you have to discover that you are in a dream. This can be difficult, however there are some things that the subconscious does not keep as well as the laws of physics do. I have a few things that I do periodically (even while awake, because you never know...) The first is I'll glance at my hands every once in a while. Often times during dreams, I'll notice that my hands grow or shrink for no apparent reason. (Feet are the same way). Often times in dreams, things will warp and twist oddly (walls, floors, any old item). If you see something act oddly, close your eyes for a second, if it acts differently when you open them, it's likely your in a dream (or some sort of reality bending zone, in which case... good luck) if it still acts the same way, it might just be something you don't understand (there might be magnets nearby, or some other logical explanation) The easiest thing to tell, but not always the easiest to check, is clocks. I have never had a dream that has had a correct timeline. For example I'll look up at a clock (this was in a classroom most recently) and see that it is 5:15 (This sends me a small red flag, because I wouldn't be in the class at that time) so I close my eyes for a second and check again, when I open them, I notice it is 11 (When I would be in this class actually) and think that it might have been my imagination, so to be sure, I close my eyes again and tell myself that when I open them, the clock will read 25:07 (to be absolutely certain). Sure enough it happened, so I realized I was in a dream, and floated out of the class (Who wants to spend precious dream moments in a classroom learning about history?).

Anyways these are some general tips I have. If you want to talk more in depth, this is a topic that fascinates me and so I've put in a lot of research, You know where to find me.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Sky Striker on May 19, 2010, 03:49:09 pm
So what you're suggesting is constantly check in real life to see if you're in a dream so that behavior comes normal. Then you are more likely to do so in a dream you don't yet have awareness in because it's something you usually do. Then when you check to see if you are in a dream and it turns out you are you gain awareness.

Not a bad idea. Although my friends will be constantly wondering why I keep checking reality...
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Nathan Wolf on May 19, 2010, 03:49:26 pm
I don't dream anymore.

After I discovered how to cancel dreams I haven't had a dream since.
I remember all kinds of dreams from when I was a child.
Wanting to get the swingset before the campire got to me.
Helping out a group of people who feared me because of the things I could do.

Things that do not ever make sence in any way. shape. or form.
I would love to dream again but my sleep schedule has ruled my dreams for too long and I would have to go under some fairly heavy drugs to pass out soon enough for my brain to revover and start the shows again.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kaloth on May 19, 2010, 11:21:48 pm
If you're subtle about glancing at your hands out of the corner of your eye, or checking the time (I'm a bit OCD about that anyways), people don't really notice. (Note: I check the clock every 5-6 minutes out of habit... not one I gave myself one I developed)
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Shim on July 20, 2010, 12:27:46 am
I'm not entirely sure how to explain this.

I have slightly-lucid-dreamed before, but this scenario always seems to play out.

Usually, if I have a lucid-dream, I fly.  I'm not sure why, but always flying.  The problem, is that I try and try, and I always start up, and end up falling at an angle.  I can only fly for a couple of seconds before I just completely fall left or right in midair.

Is there any logical explanation  :o?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Foxpup on July 20, 2010, 06:58:39 am
I'm not entirely sure how to explain this.

I have slightly-lucid-dreamed before, but this scenario always seems to play out.

Usually, if I have a lucid-dream, I fly.  I'm not sure why, but always flying.  The problem, is that I try and try, and I always start up, and end up falling at an angle.  I can only fly for a couple of seconds before I just completely fall left or right in midair.

Is there any logical explanation  :o?
Yes, you're too heavy to fly. :D Seriously though, I've had this happen a few times when I first started lucid dreaming, probably because I was thinking "Woo! I'm flying! ... Wait, this is impossible... ARGHHHHH*splat*". Try not to think logically. Remember, there is no spoon.

*wonders why I haven't posted here yet*
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Shim on July 20, 2010, 08:15:10 am
Try not to think logically. Remember, there is no spoon.

*wonders why I haven't posted here yet*

Alright, "logical" probably wasn't the best word for me to use there  :P.  But I'll keep what you said in mind.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kishi on July 20, 2010, 12:11:42 pm
I'm not entirely sure how to explain this.

I have slightly-lucid-dreamed before, but this scenario always seems to play out.

Usually, if I have a lucid-dream, I fly.  I'm not sure why, but always flying.  The problem, is that I try and try, and I always start up, and end up falling at an angle.  I can only fly for a couple of seconds before I just completely fall left or right in midair.

Is there any logical explanation  :o?
Maybe you're losing control of the dream?

Ive been a similar situation several times.

I was flying around my cul-de-sac in circles, but I fell whenever I did something.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Ryffnah on July 20, 2010, 05:31:15 pm
Usually, when I fly in dreams, I end up mostly bouncing around off of the tops of trees.  Kind of like in Crouching Tiger; Hidden Dragon, come to think of it...
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: TaoxFox on July 31, 2010, 11:10:33 pm
I've only had one :\
it lasted for a couple minutes, but it was worth it. ^_^
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Sigurd Volsung on August 02, 2010, 04:35:09 am
I've had a couple that involve Anthro Vixen's and Feline femme fattales and engaged in things that would be censored here so I'm not going to bother saying them, I'll just let you use your imagination.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: TaoxFox on August 02, 2010, 02:37:38 pm
I've had a couple that involve Anthro Vixen's and Feline femme fattales and engaged in things that would be censored here so I'm not going to bother saying them, I'll just let you use your imagination.

I've heard about many people who've had those sorts of dreams. Honestly I wonder if I ever will :\

Does anyone have a certain method that you use to induce lucid dreams that seems to work for you?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Tiririn on August 27, 2010, 04:58:26 am
I lucid dream every now and then, it's really fun, I usually can't control EVERYTHING in the dream, but I can explore the dream, and I often end up running on all fours because it's faster and easier, it's fun.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Kobuk on August 27, 2010, 10:35:44 pm
Somewhere in this thread, I believe Hayaikawa was right. Drinking apple juice does help with lucid dreaming. But......I'm not drinking juice, but have been snacking on apples instead before bedtime and it's helped with dreaming.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on August 27, 2010, 11:41:12 pm
Somewhere in this thread, I believe Hayaikawa was right. Drinking apple juice does help with lucid dreaming. But......I'm not drinking juice, but have been snacking on apples instead before bedtime and it's helped with dreaming.

hehe, yup.

some chemmicals in apples help dreams a ton ^.^
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: A_Foxice_Building on August 31, 2010, 04:35:58 pm
The last time I lucid dreamed I controlled EVERYTHING! But that was before I was furry, so I sorta missed the oppurtunity to explore that. And the time before that it was freaking creepy so I yelled to wake myself up. It did work, but heck, I realised it was a dream and what I was seeing not even my twisted brain could come up with.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: xelhua on November 07, 2010, 07:47:40 pm
Experiencing Lucid Dreaming is fun! Especially when you want to take a bite out of something that looks really tasty and your five senses some how are active! There's a movie concerning Lucid Dreaming, it's called "Waking Life" it gives you a few pointers on how you know when you're lucid dreaming and when you're not. Have you tried Astral Projection? It's a bit dangerous but it's great. I don't know, for me my first tries were  exhilarating! Lucid dreaming is fun when you're having surreal dreams and you can manipulate your sorroundings at will. Now that's the best part.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Serra Belvoule on November 07, 2010, 09:28:27 pm
I am not saying that this is false or anything, but I don't see why apple juice helps with lucid dreaming... Is there an actual scientific reason or just trial and error?
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Hayaikawa on November 07, 2010, 10:53:23 pm
I am not saying that this is false or anything, but I don't see why apple juice helps with lucid dreaming... Is there an actual scientific reason or just trial and error?
mostly trial and error, but it's fairly accepted by the main lucid dreaming community.
it might be some chemical in apple juice that helps, but idk for sure.
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Avan on November 08, 2010, 12:34:28 am
Cheese results in insane dreams apparently  :D
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Serra Belvoule on November 08, 2010, 06:52:30 pm
...Ok *slightly confused*
Should we try a list of diet/dreams? :3 That could amount for a VERY interesting experiment!
Title: Re: Lucid Dreaming, perfect for furs :)
Post by: Mr. Apple on December 01, 2010, 10:15:53 pm
when those dreams happen to me, they are almost always absurdly more random than the other dreams. I've never intentionally got to the lucid stage (if it's even possible) but I find that when you obsess over something to the point of agony, stay up extremely late, and have really funky food, then when you wake up, then go back to sleep, what you were dreaming about 1 out of 5 times will be what ever you obsessed over, and turn lucid. I usually hate it because I get so attached to the dream world that when I am ripped away, (i have to get up for school etc...) I'm depressed all morning.