Alphas (OOC)

[Sledge]

Look, Gasoline just doesn't burn like that. The only way it would ever explode is if the expanding vapors had enough time to build up pressure. In open atmosphere, it wouldn't have anywhere to build up.

[Sledge]

And yes, argu- I mean, speaking your side- here is perfectly fine. I just don't want the IC thread extremely cluttered.

[Jacoby Quinn]

Look, Gasoline just doesn't burn like that. The only way it would ever explode is if the expanding vapors had enough time to build up pressure. In open atmosphere, it wouldn't have anywhere to build up.

Actually it does...give me two days and I can provide video evidence that ambient gasoline vapor is explosive
i've done it tens of times before (I could fetch my notes, but they're in a box somewhere, they'd give an exact number)
I make it my business to study explosives, I hope to one day build a better bombsquad body armor

[Sledge]

On the topic of the IC thread becoming cluttered... Would you mind removing your giant quote within a quote? Part of the one I put up there is for another player's benefit.

It's my business to put things out. Not to mention the fact that it could easily be too much vapors and exceed the UEL.

[Jacoby Quinn]

On the topic of the IC thread becoming cluttered... Would you mind removing your giant quote within a quote? Part of the one I put up there is for another player's benefit.

It's my business to put things out. Not to mention the fact that it could easily be too much vapors and exceed the UEL.

naive ... any company will exceed safety regulations if it's cheaper, then they fix it directly before inspection day

I worked in a chicken processing plant, I saw at least nine bags get kicked off the line by the metal detector, then put right back on
at least nine every night that is

yes...it's your job to put things out, but you're trying to tell me that an explosive will not combust an explosive vapor

I understand the argument against the river of gas...even if you did miss the main flaws in it, you hit some decent ones, but arguing against this...

[Sledge]

I'm telling you it's not an explosive vapor under those conditions. It's just a flammable vapor. If you don't think there's a difference, you're flat out wrong. Naive is thinking those who do this professionally know less than you, who are an amateur.

[ColonelMustang]

Look i'm just gonna say it.

For starters everybody knows that it's the vapors that gasoline gives off that is flammable, not the liquid itself. However the simple logic of it is, yes for now those contents are under extreme pressure, but the moment any piece of shrapnel pierces that tank, you just lost all your built up pressure. You won't get an explosion, what you will get is a pretty wicked flame fountain depending on how fast the vapors burn off, you also might get a nice whoosh, but not an explosion.

[Jacoby Quinn]

the tanks are vented, you wouldn't have built up pressure anyway...yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIVsJKCl8Ks

Naive is thinking those who do this professionally know less than you, who are an amateur.

arrogance is thinking that just because someone tells you that you are better that means that you are

[Sledge]

I don't think I'm better. I know, however, you've not only aimed insults at me, but by doing so, also aimed them at the whole firefighter brotherhood. Now, those tanks are clearly not vented, because after the pressure is released(that would be the big pretty poof) the flames die down to a typical gas fire.

[Jacoby Quinn]

I don't think I'm better. I know, however, you've not only aimed insults at me, but by doing so, also aimed them at the whole firefighter brotherhood. Now, those tanks are clearly not vented, because after the pressure is released(that would be the big pretty poof) the flames die down to a typical gas fire.

theres that arrogance again.
i'm not insulting anyone, but having a certification or degree in something does not automatically make you better at it than someone without a degree or certification.

I noticed that...but you missed something important, after the first explosion pressure was released....then why the second one?

[Sledge]

Simple. Most stations have multiple tanks and/or diesel tanks.

It does make you better trained. It makes you the one dragging the moron out of the fire after he starts it playing with matches and gasoline.

[ColonelMustang]

theres that arrogance again.

naive ...


I'm fairly positive that's insulting. I could be entirely wrong though. However we wouldn't want you to blow a gasket or anything. It's ok if you don't do well under fire, some people can't take the pressure and they just seem to explode.

[Jacoby Quinn]

Simple. Most stations have multiple tanks and/or diesel tanks.

It does make you better trained. It makes you the one dragging the moron out of the fire after he starts it playing with matches and gasoline.

I take more Precautions with my experiments than the local fire station does well....ever
I even paid $250 to a guy working with robotics to build A small remote control rover to contain, extinguish, or deactivate any out of control experiments, built bunkers 50, 100, and 200 yards away from my test area, keep an ABC extinguisher on hand at all times, as well as a class D graphite extinguisher

to boot the test area is sand

sea...i see what you did there.

[Sledge]

Is your local fire station paid or volunteer? Many volunteer stations don't have the funding to do much more than respond.

And I'll ask again: please remove your staircase quote in the IC thread. I'm trying to avoid excessive clutter...

[Jacoby Quinn]

volunteer
I took state regulations and exceeded most of them though

[Sledge]

Funding's your problem, then.

Alsek, sorry for the bother. It looks like we're wrapping up here.

[Sledge]

So, Colonel... Merit's on a first name basis with his General? 

[ColonelMustang]

Well naturally. I mean do you really expect a person who believes themselves to be an Angel to follow any Earthly Chain O' Command? But to answer your question, yes. The Colonel is on a first name basis with the General.

[Furenzied]

When you think about it...not to bring anything up but even if there was venting, the pressure building up would have to be released just as or even faster than it was generated otherwise an explosion would occur. Depending on the amount of material.

And you think someone who legitimately believes themselves to be an angel wouldn't be in the military on grounds of insanity.  but also unfortunately nobody can trust any organisation these days.

Sidenote...just because people don't have degrees in a field, depending on the field, doesn't mean that they're any less knowledgeable, it just means that they can think about it in more creative ways. Kinda like physics and philosophy, it only takes a bit of logical thought and reasoning with a splash of research.

[Sledge]

Alrighty, guys, I've finally added the Mad Hatter and the Terror to my arms list.

[Sledge]

When you think about it...not to bring anything up but even if there was venting, the pressure building up would have to be released just as or even faster than it was generated otherwise an explosion would occur. Depending on the amount of material.

And you think someone who legitimately believes themselves to be an angel wouldn't be in the military on grounds of insanity.  but also unfortunately nobody can trust any organisation these days.

Sidenote...just because people don't have degrees in a field, depending on the field, doesn't mean that they're any less knowledgeable, it just means that they can think about it in more creative ways. Kinda like physics and philosophy, it only takes a bit of logical thought and reasoning with a splash of research.

I'll say one thing, then I'm done. There's a reason one semester of fire academy contains over 470 hours of training. That wishful thinking will not only not save anyone else, it would likely get you or your whole squad killed. The smallest thing can cause death or worse. That is why a certification is better. Not only your squad, but civilians as well, know they can count on you.

I'm sorry. I tried to drop it, but this comment just... It could get people killed or worse. I had to say something.

[Jacoby Quinn]

When you think about it...not to bring anything up but even if there was venting, the pressure building up would have to be released just as or even faster than it was generated otherwise an explosion would occur. Depending on the amount of material.

And you think someone who legitimately believes themselves to be an angel wouldn't be in the military on grounds of insanity.  but also unfortunately nobody can trust any organisation these days.

Sidenote...just because people don't have degrees in a field, depending on the field, doesn't mean that they're any less knowledgeable, it just means that they can think about it in more creative ways. Kinda like physics and philosophy, it only takes a bit of logical thought and reasoning with a splash of research.

I'll say one thing, then I'm done. There's a reason one semester of fire academy contains over 470 hours of training. That wishful thinking will not only not save anyone else, it would likely get you or your whole squad killed. The smallest thing can cause death or worse. That is why a certification is better. Not only your squad, but civilians as well, know they can count on you.

I'm sorry. I tried to drop it, but this comment just... It could get people killed or worse. I had to say something.

like I said, you DO believe yourself better just because you have a piece of paper

I'd sooner trust a doctor with experience who definately knows what he's doing than someone who falls through a standardized curriculum and has a piece of paper that says his teachers THINK he knows what he's doing

I'm well aware of the dangers and the risks, I've never let anyone else in the test area ever, and I take the precautions that I do not out of regard for my safety, but for any trespassing idiots who may wander on my property.

I put the safety of others before ANYTHING, and the only reason i'm not certified is my asthma.
The department knows what I do, conducts regular inspections on my facilities and equipment, and has even called for my assistance on two arson cases to evaluate what accelerants were used, one of which sent one of my closest friends to prison for 5-7

My neighborhood calls the fire department, then me and I have assisted in 4 brush fires and one house fire this year.

If what i'm doing is playing, so are you, looks to me like we are on pretty even footing.

[Sledge]

  I said I'm done. Your last post simply made you look like a fool. And it makes so many things you've said not match up.

Anyways, back to the actual RP, this is the current version of General Farica Vernon's helmet:


Anyone wants me to draw something custom, just me me know... Only thing is I don't even know when I'll finish with it...

[Furenzied]

I'm kinda feeling that this Rp is slowly getting more one sided to the anti-alpha aspect...

[Jacoby Quinn]

I said I'm done. Your last post simply made you look like a fool. And it makes so many things you've said not match up.

First you proclaim i'm me to be an "idiot playing with matches",I list qualifications to point out otherwise and now i'ma fool.
The only thing I see that could possibly be misconstrued as contradiction is that no one has been in my testing area yet it's been inspected...I would think logic would cover that one since I didn't let them in due to choice...I have to obey the law or I have a list of felonies