As far as I know, I'm not breaching any rules by stating what I think. I'm not wishing harm on anyone, I just believe that people should have more of a spine and not allow the empty words of some vague internet troll to control them.
The problem there is not all of those trolls are empty words. That is where that law is coming in. Not everyone is strong enough nor have the 'spine' to just suck things up and move on. Bullying has harmed many kids growing up. That is what bullies do. Degrade others because it makes themselves feel so much better because they don't know how to play well with others. Same with trolls. They don't have much of a life themselves, probably bad grades, low self esteem so to them making others feel bad/sad what have you makes themselves feel good.
We here at Furtopia hear that all the time. FREE SPEECH. Well, at Furtopia, we still control what can and can't be said here.
In all reality, those people are allowing themselves to feel offended and should still be responsible for taking their own lives, not the random troll who pushed them to it.
That's it right there, what I put in red. People don't ALLOW themselves to feel offended. Yes, things are on the net. The world wide web. So what? Words can still hurt whether face to face, written or even typed. For those who do commit suicide there are probably other things in their life that have led to that decision and not just the words on a monitor.
If you state a rule to me that shows that I absolutely need to remove that, I will, but I feel like you asking me to remove it is unfair, especially considering the topic being discussed.
The original topic was about the law being passed about cyber-bullies. Not about people committing suicide.
I didn't see anywhere in that link that people were committing suicide because of trolls/bullies. To me, making the statement you did was not warranted because it had nothing to do with the law being planned. Bullies/trolls should be held accountable for their actions no matter what the results.
If we were to post EVERY rule to cover everything that is 'common sense' no one would be able to enjoy the forums as it would take them years to read all the rules. We just ask that members use common sense when posting their thoughts. It doesn't have to be a stated rule.
1. Be respectful of the staff and your fellow members at all times. Insulting or bashing other users will quite possibly get you a warning and/or a ban.
For me, I would consider your statement "
I just believe that people should have more of a spine and not allow the empty words of some vague internet troll to control them. In all reality, those people are allowing themselves to feel offended and should still be responsible for taking their own lives, not the random troll who pushed them to it. would be insulting to the people who have been bullied/trolled.
And not all suicides are for the same reason.
Here is a story that I have not shared with anyone except my closest family:
I had an older sister who became an RN after raising 8 kids. She had wanted to be an RN as long as I can remember. She quit going to school to raise her kids. After all of them, but one, were out of the home she went back to finish her schooling and training to be what she always wanted. After working as an RN for two years she got a job working in a respected hospital with other RN's, nurses, doctors and other staff members of the hospital. One of her patients was a higher up in her church. She respected him greatly. Then one day, because there were a couple nurses that didn't like my sister, they decided to bully her on the job. They told her after this patient died that it was HER fault he died because she over dosed him. My sister knew she didn't do anything wrong but still went over all her notes and knew she hadn't caused his death. But these 2 nurses were determined to bully my sister into 'leaving' her job. Well, after a week of this and an internal investigation had begun, my sister did just that. She quit her job. She drove 2 states away from her home. Put a hose into the tail pipe. Duck taped it to the passenger window. Closed all car windows and vents and she drank a soda pop, took some drugs and began writing down what she was doing and why. On the way to work one morning a trucker noticed a car pulled off to the side of the highway and saw a woman sitting in the driver seat. He didn't think any thing of it. On his way home from his job he noticed the same car still in the same spot and so was the woman inside. He knew something was wrong. He pulled off the highway and went and checked on the woman. She was dead. That woman was my older sister. In her letter she stated that she couldn't bear the thought that she actually killed someone when all she wanted was to help people. She also didn't want to put her family through a lengthy court trial and the cost would be enormous to her family. She wanted to save her family from the court hearings, the way people would look at her and her family and the financial burden it would cause.
He reported to the cops who came out and took care of the scene and took the letter into evidence. They also went and investigated the nurses at the hospital that my sister had mentioned about what they did and said to her. You know what the police found during that investigation? NOTHING! Why? Because the nurses responsible for everything that led up to my sister taking her own life denied everything. And because of this it was my sister's word against theirs. Guess who won? It also turned out that my sisters patient died of natural causes and she had indeed done nothing wrong in administrating his meds.
If these nurses hadn't bullied her like they did for days on the job, she would NEVER have taken her life. For me, these nurses were VERY responsible for what my sister did. My sister was a very strong woman. She could stand her own against anyone. But this time what went wrong? Nothing. Not on my sisters side that is. On the nurses side? They played a very evil game on my sister and it caused her to take the only way she could see of saving her family the humiliation of what happened and the financial burden to defend her in court.
And she died believing that she took a mans life as an RN because of what these 2 nurses did to her.
It still makes me angry to this day when I think about what those nurses did to her. She died Dec 14, 1994.
For me, I really feel sorry for all the bullies and trolls because they don't seem to have anything better to do with their own lives than to harm others.
