Big picture update

[Mousira]

Whee, major update of pictures. I've been drawing a lot over this summer, but all the ones from August I've been backed up for scanning. I finally got around to scanning them all in. Including the pictures of all my personalities. (other than my RL self of course... '>) So here they are for your viewing pleasure...

Anime-Style Cat girl This is my try at drawing an Anime-Style cat person... s'not very good in my opinion, but meh.

Genie The face came out a bit odd in the coloring, but I was mostly trying a new coloring technique with this one. I like how it came out otherwise...

The Human Brother of my personality: Kalsam Exactly as this says. I have a full story on my personalities, and I should write it out sometime....  

Magic Isn't always stars and sparkles. I wanted to do a magic picture where the magic spell didn't look like a ball of energy, or a bunch of sparkles. So, 'ribbon-rainbow' it is... '>

Mousira! Showing off her tattoo Yay, it's my prime personality, showing off her Pheonix tattoo. I don't like the legs in this one, but the expression came out great. '>

Another of my personalities: Kalsam Retritro This is my Mystic Half-Breed Personality, and yes, He is male. His Mystic blood allows him to assume any shape/form he wishes, but this is the one he usually appears in. His skin is actualy covered in white fur, but because this is B/W, it's not visable....

My Personality: Setrelca (Not the LFDM character) This name is also used in my story 'Last Furil of Drak Morak' but this picture is my personality named Setrelca, not the character. She is onethird cat, onethird mouse and onethird human.

My warrior Personality: Somuria The 'sister' of Mousira, she weilds the blades of Dark and Light. When she connects the two blades, she can call forth the Chaos Breaker, a large Greenish toned Bastard Sword. '>

[grasper]

cool stuff, all of it, keep up the good work!

[WhiteShepherd]

Cool!  Lot of pictures and I love variety.  As Kada learned the more you do the more and more improvement you'll see come into your work.  Great update and I look forward to seeing the next. '>

  WhiteShepherd

[Kada-Ru]

They are all nicely done, Mousira. I especially like "Anime-Style Cat girl". Her proportions are a bit better then the rest of your creations.

"My warrior Personality: Somuria" I am glad I am not weilding those swords! '>

Great update and as WS said, the more you create, the more you practice the better you get!  '>

Keep up the good work.

[Mousira]

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Kada-Ru Posted on Aug. 15 2003, 12:41 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are all nicely done, Mousira. I especially like "Anime-Style Cat girl". Her proportions are a bit better then the rest of your creations. "My warrior Personality: Somuria" I am glad I am not weilding those swords! Great update and as WS said, the more you create, the more you practice the better you get!   Keep up the good work.

*chuckles* The swords are special in a couple of ways. The sword of Darkness will not harm an evil creature, and the sword of Light will not harm a good creature. So, to be able to wield them both, Somuria is Neutral. (Then, only Chaos can hurt her as those who are Neutral know that order is required to be such. O^-^O) But thanks for the comment!

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WhiteShepherd Posted on Aug. 13 2003, 10:42 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cool!  Lot of pictures and I love variety.  As Kada learned the more you do the more and more improvement you'll see come into your work.  Great update and I look forward to seeing the next. WhiteShepherd

Yeah, I do seem to get better as I draw more. But I'm still a far cry from being an Intermediate Artist. If you like Variety, you may like the picture I've been imagining for a while. I'm going to do it up soon. What's different about it is that I'll be using my genetic Artistic talent for it: Paints. (Everyone in my family of the Horn blood seems to be born with a talent for Art of one variety or another. My father can do topography, my uncle Phil can draw anything he's seen once, and I can paint to a point that, if I focus on it, it can and will look like a photograph.) I'm thinking of doing a picture like that. So when it's finished, I'll be sure to post it.

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grasper Posted on Aug. 13 2003, 8:45 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cool stuff, all of it, keep up the good work!

Thanks, I certainly hope to. O^-^O

[Mousira]

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MidnightDragon Posted on Aug. 16 2003, 11:35 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry about the delay. Nice art Mouse though you seriously need to work on hands. I cant stress the need for anatomy books for artists.

*grimaces* I've looked at those art books. They don't know how to draw hands. If you could actually find one that's right, I may look it up... But the last ten I looked at, had the hands as a circle with five ovals. No joints, no lines, nada. They just showed the circle, then the five ovals and then the finished product. Nothing on how they got it. *shrugs* Also, my hands are drawn in a semi-animeish way. They always have been...

[River Ceed]

I used to look in the library for drawing books, thinking they would help me get a handle on artsy things.  Mind you, this was years ago when I was in gradeschool.  I found them to be boring and tedious.

    Anatomy books, like Midnight mentioned, can be found at any library or school/college.  An old encyclopedia set my parents had even had a transparency layer by layer detailed human body, each layer a different section...skeletal, organs, muscles, fascia, and finally skin.  Looking at the layers individually and then one atop the other helped me understand more about muscle tone and such.  At that time, I was working with modeling clay so the contours of the muscles helped alot.

   They may help anyone interested with both drawing and sculpting.  Some libraries may even have the old encyclopedias I was used to.  I think they were the Collier's Encyclopedia brand.

~River

[Mousira]

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MidnightDragon Posted on Aug. 18 2003, 5:24 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sure... Its funny that anatomy books dont teach you how to draw at all. May I point out that I said ANATOMY books. You find those in schools and Libraries everywhere. Im glad you have confidence in your art but it really needs a heap of work still. You told me you were drawing for five years or so. And yet all these techniques you say you know so well NEVER appear in your art at all. Basicaly it sounds like you talk alot of crap. One art/illustration book would improve your works a thousand fold. Anything on perspective, proportion, and how to sketch is seriously advised for your work. As well you may wish to look into shading techniques. Black and white is manditory to learn BEFORE you work in color effectively. Black and white is where you get your depth and shape. It is where you apply your proportion and perspective. After all, one can color something as realisticly as they want, but if the actual drawing looks unreal, it wont be believable as -real flesh or fur-.

I never said that I've only been drawing for five yrs or so, I said 'I've been drawing FURRY for five yrs. I drew animals and other pictures in school many yrs before that. As for the anatomy books, I misread. It happens no need to be  stuck up over it. Look, if you have a problem with my art, don't comment anymore, because you aparently like to only put others down. And I do that well enough on my own. Thankyouverymuch!

[Mousira]

*sighs* I wasn't upset. That's the problem with a message board, when something is empathsized, it seems like the person is angry. I know you've said my art is good, and I thank you for that. I know it still needs work, lords do I know that. I don't like fighting with people, all it ends up doing is hurting me more than them. I have a quick temper, I will admit, but I will also admit that if I am angry at something on a forum, I will leave the forums, then come back later and reply. What use is it to get angry at someone when they may merely be only empathsizing something to make sure it is noticed... Like I do.
I've tried to make sure that when I say a technique or something, that I mention it is 'only an idea' not an actual technique that will 100% positively work. I'm very sorry to anyone that thought I was saying my ideas as a professional.
I absolutely know I'm only an amateur. I will never be as good as many out there already are. Never.
*Re-reads her post about 'putting down everyone and winces'* And of course, I put my foot in my mouth again... I do that way too often. Either that, or people misunderstand me, like when I said in my livejournal that I was tired of the 'Stupid 9-11 Terrorist attack'... Everyone thought I meant that all the people who died were stupid and everything... What I really meant was that I thought the media was stupid for making a really BIG deal of it for nearly a year later... *shakes her head* I'm sorry... I really don't want to fight anyone, and I understand humbly if you choose to ignore me from now on...

[WhiteShepherd]

I've been busy coding so I'm getting in on this thread late.  I don't like to comment on things like this.  But "the way" some things were said really bothers me.

MidnightDragon said:

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Im glad you have confidence in your art but it really needs a heap of work still. You told me you were drawing for five years or so. And yet all these techniques you say you know so well NEVER appear in your art at all. Basicaly it sounds like you talk alot of crap.

MidnightDragon:
First of all I find this post leaning strongly towards insulting.  The best criticisms are worded to  protect the feelings of those you wish to give suggestions too.  Once you hurt someone with words too harsh, you may have stopped a argument before it even started, but any suggestions of improvement are most often lost and often even counter productive.  What bothers me a lot is the lack of concern for the artists feelings that “seems” to be expressed in the way this was worded.  I understand your opinions MD.  But as a Mod it is even MORE essential to get your ideas/opinions across without hurting someone’s  feelings when possible.

Everyone:   
When we work/discuss art here on the forums skill is our metal.  But our mood feelings and “the way we treat each other” ARE the flames we temper that steel(skills) and decide how far we will often go.  There are FAR to many forums out there where big or small god admins and users won’t think twice of hurting someone as a point of emphasizing their point (in reference to other forums and not to you MidnightDragon).  I WILL NOT permit that trend to develop here.

I am strongly impassioned on this point so I will reiterate. Wether most of you are familiar with outside forums or not  we have a incredibly rare and wonderful thing going here at Furtopia.  Many other forums will cut others down for mistakes.  But here wether or not a furson is new/old experienced/not we have a “caring and friendly home here that supports each other grow”.  Everyone has something to give mistakes or not.  That part is worth keeping as it’s the best environment for artists to grow IMO.

  WhiteShepherd

[Kada-Ru]

Hi Mousira. For me, I don't use the anatomy books much either. I have two that I glance at now and then. One, I don't even know why I bought it since the musculature is so OVER done on the bodies which does not look natural to me, they actually make the body look deformed. The other one is very simple and I go through it now and then to look at poses etc. to get ideas.

I'm no great artist either and neither am I a professional. I never went to school for art.  Never had any professional training. I draw because I enjoy it. I have now and then posted techniques which "I" use with my own works but it doesn't mean that it will work for everyone either. If you have techniques that work for you, then by all means post them. Whether some one else uses those suggestions or not is up to the individual.

Fantasy art? Well, that is just what is says. Fantasy. Something that isn't supposed to look real. That is the way I feel about furry art some times. That there is no such thing in RL as a furry so my creations don't have to look perfect. I'm not creating art so that it is PERFECT to the eye of the beholder as to what art SHOULD look like. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes. I know I do! '>  I also know that not everyone is going to like my works. That is fine with me. I like my creations and that is what really counts. How I feel about them is what matters.

[Benjamin]

One of the best resources for drawing hands (and facial expressions) is to use your own. Grab a mirror if you have to, and use your own hands as models. Professional animators and artists do this all the time. There ain't no better teacher than Ma Nature. '>
 
Benjamin

[Mousira]

*smiles nervously to MD* Thank you for being understanding. I don't try to come off as a professional, but sometimes I end up sounding like I do. It's a bad habit that I am trying my hardest to break. *Smacks her paw for good measure*
*nods to Benjamin* That is one of the few things I do a lot. The right hand's in my picture are the ones that are usually off the most because I prefer to draw with my right and model with my left. I sometimes ask my friends to pose for me it is something difficult to really picture in my head, or model with myself. But thank you anyway.
*Gives a small bow to Kada-Ru* I think your art looks really good. You already have one thing over me, you can draw horses. *chuckles and sticks out her tongue for dramatics*
*gives a salute to WS* Gotcha. I'll keep the steel tempered and not at melting point. '> Never good to drip on someone's foot.