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The second frozen then thawed loaf. Really good! Same great taste and texture. The crust is a bit more flaky but doesn't in anyway take away from the bread.

Made four more loaves today. All four from my modified Shaker recipe. Two loaves I rolled out and make cinnamon swirl bread. Turned out really good.

Because I modified the recipe I can now call it my own.

Rat Bread.

1 package dry yeast.
1 1/4 cup warm water.
1 cup warm milk
1 tablespoon sugar
1 teaspoon salt
4 tablespoons shortening. At room temperature. 
Up to 7 cups bread flour.  I only use 6 1/2 but your conditions may very.

Two bread loaf pans well oiled. your choice. I use olive oil but any cooking oil will do.

In a bowel or stand up mixer. Add your warm water, sugar and yeast. Add one cup of the bread flour. Mix and lest stand for up to 10 minutes. Add milk and shortening. Stir or mix well. Add salt. Add remaining flour 1/2 cup at a time.
Knead for a good 8 to 10 minutes on a floured surface. Dough should stretch when pulled and be smooth to the touch.
Grease a large bowel. Place dough ball in bowel. Turning it to get the oil on the top of the ball as well.
Cover bowel with plastic wrap and let dough sit and rise for 1 hour.
After 1 hour deflate the dough. Knead a few times to get all the gasses out. Divide dough into two equal portions. Knead and press dough to fit bottom of bread pans.
Cover pans with plastic wrap and let rise for 1 hour.
Twenty minutes before the final rise is done pre heat your oven to 350.
Bake for 40 minutes
Cool out of pans on a bakers rack or heavy towel. You can tell the bread is done by tapping the bottom of the loaf. If it sounds hollow it's good. If not place back in pans and cook for another 5 minutes. Try again.
Let cool for a good 2 hours before slicing with a serrated knife.

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foodie furs / Re: Ice Cream Sundaes
« Last post by Kobuk on Today at 08:07:13 pm »
I pretty much like everything in the poll except for caramel and butterscotch toppings, and chopped nuts. I also pretty much stick to only chocolate, vanillia, or strawberry ice cream. Mint or mint chocolate chip might be ok, but I very rarely ever have it.
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Trump day 302
Today marks a year since I started this thread. To point out what our
friendly or unfriendly politicans. It depends on who you are. If you have
a job that pays enough to have a decent lifestyle? You might feel the GOP
and Trump are doing ok. If your poor and working two jobs to make ends
meet it's not likely your are happy with how things are.

Now the GOP and Trump want to give the super rich a huge tax cut on
the backs of the working poor and middle class. If you voted for them,
you likely were coned  into believing they cared about you. The GOP
and Trump are out to protect their pocket book not yours. .

The GOP talks about how much they want to reduce welfare, but turn
around and give the rich and big corporations welfare with big tax cuts.
Small businesses rarely ever get this kind of welfare. They don't have
enough money to  buy tax cuts  like the super rich does.

Trump and the GOP clame the economy needs these tax cuts to grow
and make jobs. Well unemployment is at record lows, The stockmarket
is at record highs. Big buisness has record amounts of money in their
coffers. The economy has been growing for the past 8 plus years.  All
this and they still clame we must cut taxes to help big busiess and
the economy.  Their TAX CUTS are about making the super rich
happy. People who have spent millions and millions of dollars to get
them  elected. One billionaire has spent almost 90 million to get
the GOP and Trump elected.

The religious right is supporting the GOP and Trump, even with their
immorality. Why?  Because they say they must get rid of abortion and
homosexuality. Not to help the poor and disadvantaged as the Christian
religion teaches.  Their  leadership says we must get rid of abortion and
homosexuality or the country will die. Well it's more about the power
and money their leaders want. They are using their followers for this
purpose.

Most won't likely want to believe they are being used. Some of their
followers have killed doctors and women thinking they must  protect
the unborn. Others  refuse to give homosexuals the proper respect
they deserve, thinking GOD wants them to oppose those who don't
follow their beliefs.  This leads to divisions across  the country. A favorite
tactic of authoritarians like Trump.

We can only hope for the good of all Americans and the country,
the majority of Americans will stand up and hold the GOP and Trump
accountable.  If they don't  many people will suffer, and may lead
to violence in the future.

The Great depressian of the 1930's almost turned the country
to communism, or socialism FDR pulled the country away from
such extremes by giving aid to those who needed it the most.
The GOP was against giving aid to the poor even then, and would
return us to the days with people begging and dispaire that could
drive us to being a socialist state.

The GOP believes in putting people in prison, even when their
ideas drive some people to crime. We already have more people
than any other country behind bars. It's time we change our
ways of dealing with people. Or we will be building more and
more prisons. With it costing close to  $50,000 a year to keep
people in prison. Just more state welfare in reality. Why not spend
that money to train and educate people out of criminal activiey?
That would likely do a lot to grow the economy, instead of pulling i
t down..


After a year of this and vision failing I don't plan to continue my
daily posts on politics. Instead I will post perhaps weekly or when
there is something big to report on. Thanks for reading.
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traditional and digital artwork / Der Meister tries art...
« Last post by Der Meister on Today at 09:23:41 am »
So here's my art thread! I hope to post here every time I upload something new. It won't necessarily always be furry related.

The only reason I really do this is to get critique, so critique welcome!!

My guide to critiquing my art can be found at https://doctorlugubrious.deviantart.com/journal/My-guide-to-art-critique-714125374
I recommend reading it through to see what I want, but you don't have to.

The first drawing I've posted is this one:
https://www.deviantart.com/art/Insect-Blueprint-715682848
I didn't do any shading or color or stuff (it is just a blueprint) but I'd love critique on the line technique or shape or design or whatever.
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foodie furs / Re: Home made bread. From traditional to no knead refrigerator.
« Last post by cause the rat on November 17, 2017, 11:03:33 pm »
Pulled a second loaf out of the freezer.  The first unthawed loaf was Amish. This loaf is a Shaker recipe. I'll let you know if there is any degradation in the taste or texture of this loaf.

I keep kicking around the idea of trying that no kneed refrigerator bread again. This time let it sit for a week before baking. Hopefully it'll get past that funky overcooked pop corn smell the last loaf had. Ok you caught me. I really do like kicking a dead horse.
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word games / Re: 1001 ways too get kicked out of school...
« Last post by Firelight on November 17, 2017, 04:08:18 pm »
Reenact all the fight scenes from Pirates of the Caribbean. 
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word games / Re: Avatar caption game
« Last post by Firelight on November 17, 2017, 01:39:21 pm »
Your art will be done... Whenever.
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word games / Re: Avatar caption game
« Last post by Michen_S on November 17, 2017, 12:54:45 pm »
Oh no, dont worry.
This one's just a prototype.
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traditional and digital artwork / Re: Michen's Furry artwork
« Last post by Michen_S on November 17, 2017, 12:46:17 pm »


Here's Chandelure! I'm quite happy with how it turned out. Trust me, the paper version looks better than the scanned one. I also think the shading on this one is a lot better than on my previous drawings, which is always a good thing. I know there's still a lot of room for improvement, don't worry. But I liked working on this one because I pushed myself less hard to make it look good and I just tried to have fun making it. Of course I still did my best!

Oh yeah, some colours are not found on normal Chandelures, but I thought it looked a bit more interesting this way. It's intentional.
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foodie furs / Re: Home made bread. From traditional to no knead refrigerator.
« Last post by cause the rat on November 17, 2017, 10:40:38 am »
The bread that came out of the freezer.
The only difference was the crust was a bit stiffer. The bread itself, texture and flavor is just as good. I first wrapped the loaf in cling wrap. Then in aluminum foil.
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