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the polling booth / Re: Removing Confederate statues and memorials.
« Last post by Loc on Today at 05:12:04 am »
I'm curious - to people who want the statues to stay, do you also think that the statues of Saddam Hussein shouldn't have been toppled? I mean, they're an important part of history too, right?

Trump rambled on about people like Washington having their statues taken down next, because he was a slave owner. However, people like Washington are not EXCLUSIVELY famous for keeping slaves. They did things which -actually- made the country, or made it a decent country, and their statues honour those things. Lee's sole contribution was to fight to keep his slaves. And that's what his statues represent - The slave-owners kitted up for war, riding off to defend keeping other people as property. This is what we have problems with, and what no one on the side of keeping the statues has said anything about yet - You can memorialise a horrible event as a lesson without glorifying the wrong side. If those statues were of slaves being freed, or the slave owners NOT in a position of power, people would not have issues with them.

Removing a statue doesn't suddenly make an event not happen. There are books, the internet. It is literally impossible to wipe the slave owners off the map at this point. Removing the statues is not a "slippery slope" at all. It's simply saying "America is not proud of our racist, enslaving past".
the polling booth / Re: Removing Confederate statues and memorials.
« Last post by Acton on August 19, 2017, 11:37:00 pm »
I say the issue is more complex. I rather err on the side of liberty as a Black man. Those who are calling for the removal of confederate monuments are  closer to ISIS, the Taliban,   Chinese during cultural revolution, and soviet communism than  freedom fighters.

As for violence  when fighting violence  with more violence ever solved the problem.   
anime / Re: Ghost In The Shell movie
« Last post by Kobuk on August 19, 2017, 07:59:03 pm »
A bit late aren't you, Shim? Took you this long to post a reply.  :P
anime / Re: Ghost In The Shell movie
« Last post by Shim on August 19, 2017, 05:30:01 pm »
I'm hoping to go see this film sometime next week. ;) Anybody else planning to see it?

Shim, I understand you don't like Scarlet Johansson to play the lead role of the Major in the film. But here's something I read which you might want to take notice:

Director Rupert Sanders recently told CNET that he stands by his casting of Johansson, who he calls “the best actress of my generation and her generation, and the person I felt most embodied the physicality and the ability to inhabit that role.”  The director of the first Ghost in the Shell movie, Mamoru Oshii, agreed but for different reasons, telling IGN: "The Major is a cyborg and her physical form is an entirely assumed one. The name ‘Motoko Kusanagi’ and her current body are not her original name and body, so there is no basis for saying that an Asian actress must portray her."

Of course the director is going to defend his work. What does this prove?

If a person's brain is placed inside a bio-mechanical cyborg body, whether in male or female form, then how do we really know what the original biological body was? The cyborg could look female and talk in a female voice, but did the brain actually come from a female body? What if the brain was from a male body, but placed in a cyborg female body that had a feminine voice?

People can say all they want that the Major must be female and must be Asian/Japanese because of the look of the cyborg body and because the anime/movie is in Japan. But the big questions are:
Are you sure? How do you know?

Actually yes because if you saw the film,
Spoiler: show
She's revealed to have originally been a Japanese brain put into a white woman's body
news forum / Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Last post by Old Rabbit on August 19, 2017, 09:25:28 am »
Yes Kobuk, Bannon is out, but I wonder if Trump will still call him
as he has Flynn. Or is it war between the agenda of Trump and
the agenda of Bannon? Reports say Bannon feels Trump has lost his
agenda/promise to his voters. Now we will see if President
Trumps thin skin can handle Bannons message.

Trump day 211
President Trump apparently decided to have his chief of
staff fire Bannon. Mr Alt Right his self. I wonder if
this will make any change by Trump. It's hard to say.

Bannon may take some of Trumps support away from
him. His politics are more in line with White Nationalists
than most of the GOP is. He has a billionaire to pay for
Bannons costs to spread his words which may conflict
with Trump.

Reports say Bannon is already saying Trump is working with
Globalists and must return to nationalism. Trump seems like a
Nationalist to me. Perhaps Bannon wants Nationalism to the

Trump may still hold his voting base, but he is loosing big
business over this apparent support for hate groups.

If the GOP doesn't distance it's self from hate, and extremism
they will cease to  be a viable political party. Not just in their
words, but their actions.
Sounds like a good idea. It's always good to work out the story from the
beginning to the end before hand.

Yes and a detailed Synopsis between 1500 and 3000 words will keep you on track. Gives you a solid reference point and helps you avoid the plot bunnies.
furry lite™ / Re: Furry puns
« Last post by Michen_S on August 19, 2017, 05:43:30 am »
Why aren't wolves allowed to see aquariums at zoos?

They always howl at the full moonfish.
furry lite™ / Re: Furry puns
« Last post by Subzerus on August 18, 2017, 06:23:05 pm »
My backyard bunnies are always hoppy to see me.

Backyard bunnies happy to see a house coyote? Birdphemy! Also that pun was a bit on the snout.
general non-furry discussion / Re: The "Bad News" thread.
« Last post by Rocket T. Coyote on August 18, 2017, 01:45:39 pm »
Had to suddenly detour around a bad auto accident yesterday. Saw a rescue helicopter land on the road ahead.
news forum / Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Last post by Kobuk on August 18, 2017, 10:12:46 am »


Guess when Trump mentioned about "draining the swamp" in Washington D.C., he didn't realise it would be his own staff! LOL!  :D  :D  :D

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