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Colouring Without A Tablet?
« on: September 03, 2008, 06:20:23 am »
Is it possible? I will want to start colouring my sketches soon, but I don't want to go and buy a tablet right away.

So is it possible to colour with a mouse? If so, could someone please post a good tutorial for colouring with a mouse... thanks  :)


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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 09:59:38 am »
Yes, it is possible to color with a mouse, just a bit of practice, and heavy use of the undo button! I don't know of any specific tutorials out there for coloring, but generally what I do (if you liked my coloring style that is) is to just use the paintbrush or whatever with a really low opacity and just repeat brush strokes over and over to achieve the blending-color I'm looking for. That is, after I've already blocked in all of the colors. I suppose I should finish up my how-to for GIMP users on how I colored my last piece of art, even if it didn't go over well. :P

There's no doubt a tablet would make it much easier! But I know what you mean, I didn't want to go get a tablet right away either (I still don't have one). I'd say just try what you think will work and see what does and what doesn't.
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 10:04:07 am »
My main problem is outlining though, I could use the magnetic lasso tool (or the lasso tool if I hate the magnetic lasso enough... and have a few hours spare time  x_x )

Applying the actual colour can be done very easily with the mouse (in theory), but the idea of having to trace my entire sketch with the mouse is what I am scared about  :D  x_x


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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 10:48:30 am »
oh! I see what you're saying now! You should definitely look into using the "pen tool" for that, at least that's what it is in GIMP. It allows you to mark out anchor points, then bend the lines to match the curve of your drawing, then there's a very very handy button that will paint along that line any width and color you like! I believe it should be something very similar for photoshop users, since it looks like GIMP tries to keep many tools the same name and look while providing close to the same function. Ok, I'll actually start my tutorial very shortly and probably have it up in a few hours, it'll show what I do.
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 10:54:29 am »
 :D No matter how hard I try, the only tool I am unable to use effectively in Photoshop..... is the dreaded pen tool :-[

But I think I will try to use a combination on the magnetic lasso and the *shudders* pen tool before I buy a tablet  :)

On another not, can anyone recommend a nice cheap tablet that is good for beginners? I found this site, but I don't know whether any of these are compatible with CS3 or how good it actually is.

Thanks  :)



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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 10:52:55 pm »
:D No matter how hard I try, the only tool I am unable to use effectively in Photoshop..... is the dreaded pen tool :-[

But I think I will try to use a combination on the magnetic lasso and the *shudders* pen tool before I buy a tablet  :)

On another not, can anyone recommend a nice cheap tablet that is good for beginners? I found this site, but I don't know whether any of these are compatible with CS3 or how good it actually is.

Thanks  :)



Wacom is compatible with Photoshop.  I currently use a 2003/2004 Wacom 4" x 6" Graphire tablet for my work, and I love it.  Someday I may get something bigger, but for now this does me fine.

Here's a little PS trick for simple outlining--make a new layer above your artwork (in case you mess up just throw it out and start over).  Now while holding down the shift key, click your mouse at one spot, move the cursor to another spot, and click again.  Ta-daah, instant line!  I mainly use this to do long straight lines, but it works well on curves just as long as you follow your lines while clicking your mouse.  And if you do try this, make sure that you go to your Brushes palette, look under Brush Tip Shape and turn off the Shape Dynamics. 
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008, 08:54:25 am »
:D No matter how hard I try, the only tool I am unable to use effectively in Photoshop..... is the dreaded pen tool :-[

But I think I will try to use a combination on the magnetic lasso and the *shudders* pen tool before I buy a tablet  :)

On another not, can anyone recommend a nice cheap tablet that is good for beginners? I found this site, but I don't know whether any of these are compatible with CS3 or how good it actually is.

Thanks  :)



Wacom is compatible with Photoshop.  I currently use a 2003/2004 Wacom 4" x 6" Graphire tablet for my work, and I love it.  Someday I may get something bigger, but for now this does me fine.

Here's a little PS trick for simple outlining--make a new layer above your artwork (in case you mess up just throw it out and start over).  Now while holding down the shift key, click your mouse at one spot, move the cursor to another spot, and click again.  Ta-daah, instant line!  I mainly use this to do long straight lines, but it works well on curves just as long as you follow your lines while clicking your mouse.  And if you do try this, make sure that you go to your Brushes palette, look under Brush Tip Shape and turn off the Shape Dynamics. 

That could be done just as easily with a mouse IMO, the only advantage I see a tablet bringing is the pressure sensitivity... other than that it seems just as awkward using a tablet as it is with a mouse...


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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 10:26:09 am »
I don't in any way mean to cast aspersions on coloring through computers, but there's always the option of traditional media like pencils, inks, markers, paint, pastels, crayons, etc. 
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2008, 11:09:53 am »
If I am not using a computer to colour my sketches, I much prefer just shading, its more fun (and I find it easier to do x_x )


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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2008, 11:12:06 am »
And of course, don't forget about the o-so glorious undo button! All-praise UNDO! :)
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 06:19:46 am »
I have found a tutorial for doing outlines with a mouse, and I use it all the time, takes a while but it does work quite well.

Inking

An example of a picture I did using this technique, it's a bit blurry from the low quality settings I saved it as...

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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2008, 07:00:44 am »
THANKS FEIDAI!!!

Thats exactly what I was looking for! :D

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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2008, 10:06:45 pm »
O M G!!!!! :o

I just had a BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!!
for those of us with tablets....what if we inked for a fee? since it seems to me that you guys do have access to a scanner you could email your images to tablet owners who could do that part for you...coloring would be extra of course but if inking is the hardest part well...there ya go!!!! and for others who have no scanner access you can mail the originals have those scanned and inked and maybe include a a CD of your art so that you can have it in digital form!!!!!!

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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2008, 05:14:25 am »
 :D I'd rather practice my non-tablet colouring than pay for all my sketches to be inked ;) thats just a bit lazy :P


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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2008, 02:05:49 pm »
I use Adobe Photo Shop 6.0 and coloring with the mouse is killing me!!!!! I cant afford the tablet i want to get yet either, so i know what its like.  I spend hours just doing photo edits and coloring using the mouse, the undo button is so hard used the letters are wearing off and its starting to show "no"   :D
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2009, 12:06:32 pm »
:D No matter how hard I try, the only tool I am unable to use effectively in Photoshop..... is the dreaded pen tool :-[

But I think I will try to use a combination on the magnetic lasso and the *shudders* pen tool before I buy a tablet  :)

On another not, can anyone recommend a nice cheap tablet that is good for beginners? I found this site, but I don't know whether any of these are compatible with CS3 or how good it actually is.

Thanks  :)



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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2009, 05:34:26 pm »
oh! I see what you're saying now! You should definitely look into using the "pen tool" for that, at least that's what it is in GIMP. It allows you to mark out anchor points, then bend the lines to match the curve of your drawing, then there's a very very handy button that will paint along that line any width and color you like! I believe it should be something very similar for photoshop users, since it looks like GIMP tries to keep many tools the same name and look while providing close to the same function. Ok, I'll actually start my tutorial very shortly and probably have it up in a few hours, it'll show what I do.

all hail the pen tool --bows-- though photoshops pen tool sucks XD

then again its a vector qualitynot a raster quality, their for photoshop has some rather harsh restrictions, best use illustrator then import the .AI file or even use Flash and import the file.

havn't had illustrator yet >.< so thats a no go for me. XD

silly me...i had it stuck on "type on path so it was leaving an outline over the image. XD
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2009, 10:38:14 pm »
I don't in any way mean to cast aspersions on coloring through computers, but there's always the option of traditional media like pencils, inks, markers, paint, pastels, crayons, etc.  

blasphamy...........................never use traditional when u can use digital, and never use raster when u can use vector.

traditional is nice but it last as long as the paper its colored on does, digital last forever.

u can always scan the traditionally colored art...thus making it a digital file, but it lacks quality, no matter how good u are.

raster is nice but it loses data/ quality when scaled expecially scaled up, vector retains all data no matter what the size is forever!!!!!!


a lot of big artist use photoshop for drawings, but should really use illustrator, simply for the vector advantage, though the pen tool is much harder then the brush, u can use it with a mouse much easier then in PS, plus if u want yer art as big as a house, as long as u have enough paper...u have a house size anthro, no flaw in detail.

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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2009, 11:52:50 am »
I never use a tablet. I use the toggle feature between the polygonal and freehand lasso and that can help a lot.
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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2009, 12:57:19 pm »
Wow this topic is still up?!  :D

Well I'm getting a tablet now and have pretty much figured out the pen tool and convert point tool..... moving onto AAE animation now =3


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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2009, 05:24:52 pm »
Even though you said you are getting a tablet, I figured I'd mention this as it's a good technique to know about whether you are using a mouse or a pen/tablet. (I'm assuming working in photoshop here. For other programs they may or may not have something like this)

A way to create an inking like effect is with Layer modes. Specifically, take the layer with the drawing and set it's layer mode to Multiply. You can then add a Levels adjustment layer above the drawing layer. Make it a sub-layer by holding alt while clicking between the two layers (the cursor will change to a symbol of overlapping circles). This will make the sub-layer only effect it's parent layer.  Depending on the consistency of the drawing lines and the how well it scanned you can often adjust the Levels with the adjustment layer to give nearly the effect of being inked.  It may not have the same smooth quality that inking generally gives, and it's not good for every image, but for some images this can be a quick way to give a nice outline to work with without the need for inking.

IMPORTANT: after you do this, lock the layer so you don't accidentally draw on it. Coloring is to be done on other layers placed underneath the drawing layer.

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Re: Colouring Without A Tablet?
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2009, 06:04:10 pm »
Even though you said you are getting a tablet, I figured I'd mention this as it's a good technique to know about whether you are using a mouse or a pen/tablet. (I'm assuming working in photoshop here. For other programs they may or may not have something like this)

A way to create an inking like effect is with Layer modes. Specifically, take the layer with the drawing and set it's layer mode to Multiply. You can then add a Levels adjustment layer above the drawing layer. Make it a sub-layer by holding alt while clicking between the two layers (the cursor will change to a symbol of overlapping circles). This will make the sub-layer only effect it's parent layer.  Depending on the consistency of the drawing lines and the how well it scanned you can often adjust the Levels with the adjustment layer to give nearly the effect of being inked.  It may not have the same smooth quality that inking generally gives, and it's not good for every image, but for some images this can be a quick way to give a nice outline to work with without the need for inking.

IMPORTANT: after you do this, lock the layer so you don't accidentally draw on it. Coloring is to be done on other layers placed underneath the drawing layer.

Thats the method I use right now ;)


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