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Offline Wendell

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« on: June 21, 2005, 01:15:56 am »


This is Mordecai, one of my alternate characters on FurryMUCK. I have some ideas for sketches I want to make, specifically of him without the bib overalls. However, I've never found any good reference photos or drawings of bare alligator tummies! Almost every image I've ever turned up of gators shows the top or back of the gator, but not the underside. I don't know quite how to handle the alligator belly scales.
Also, speaking of scales, does anyone know of any good dragon images floating around the web? Yours or ones by another artist. I'm looking for some new ideas on drawing those fantasy critters.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2005, 02:21:06 am »
Most alligators can't be bothered to be flipped.
I would say try and get a hold of a tape of a nature show with an insane host.  Steve Irwin the Crocodile Hunter is good.  Pause when the croc goes  into a Death Roll.

As far as dragons go, I would say go to a site like DeviantArt or Elfwood and type in a kind of dragon you want to look at, like "Asian water dragon", "Fire Dragon", or "English red dragon".  Be specific, or you'll get thousands of hits.  
In case you don't know, the general terms I've seen for Dragons are "Asian/Oriental/Eastern" and "English/Western" for the two main types.  Dragon kin includes Drakes, Wyverns, and Wyrms.
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I will go on a dragon hunt in the morning and see if I can find some good ones for you.  What kind of dragon are you looking for?
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2005, 03:15:45 am »
theres one show in discovery channel about the protectors of animals of Miami, theres one guy that fights gators constantly.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2005, 09:36:26 pm »
Hmmm... the show Cesarin mentioned may or may not be a good source of gator references, but it sounds exciting enough to watch just for fun. I do like seeing alligators in motion. 8o)>

Crocodile Hunter might give me some ideas, but I don't know if it would be very accurate. Australian crocodiles quite different from alligator mississippiensis. It would be like trying to draw a fox by looking at your neighbour's pet dalmation. Closely related genetically, but extremely different in features.
(Insist on real gator. Take the taste challenge.) *wink*

Thank you for the new ideas, though. I'll see what I can do about looking on the television.

As for dragons, I suppose I have in mind a Western dragon type. A firebreathing type with long wings, perhaps about the size of a large automobile. Strong hindlegs, plus arm-like forelegs that can be used for grasping objects. Red scales, or perhaps blue, but the colour of the references don't matter to me.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2005, 09:53:15 pm »
I found this by running an image search for alligator bellies, which also turned up a disturbing number of pictures of shoes...  ':dead:' It is a skin! (Don't want to freak anybody out! )

Alligator?

But on closer inspection, the one side looks almost like a turtle shell... But it may just be the way it's sitting. Either way, it could be helpfull!

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2005, 10:14:41 pm »
As for pictures of dragons:

Dragon links

I recommend the "Draco's dragons" link. They have a HUGE archive with all kind of dragons (Mostly western).




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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2005, 11:23:38 pm »
I have a few dragon picts, dunno if they will help or not...

Clicky

Clicky2

Clicky 3
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2005, 12:45:25 am »
Lots of dragon links:

Found at Elfwood
Brett Cushing:
At The Races
Windborne

Others:
Feathered Dragon
Dragon In The Courtyard
Dragon Perch
Head Drawing


Elfwood artists to check out:
Michael Waters- His leaf dragons are amazing.
Jennifer Miller- Gorgeous griffins as well as dragons.
Sandra Staple- little bit of everything.  Lovely pencil-drawn dragons.
Lilleah West- Gore warning, this girl likes zombies!  Fascinating work, ont a few dragons, but good if you're looking for ways to twist the same-ol'-same ol' into something cool.


Fox+Asian Dragon



Hope that helps!




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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2005, 11:33:45 pm »
Banjo found a great ref for gator scales. Thank you so much. I'll be using that when I plan my next drawing of Mordecai.

Also, thanks to everybody for the dragon links. I haven't had time to look through many of them yet, but I will be doing that soon.

Ulario, your dragons are quite spiffy. The first one, "Clicky," fits my needs best as a reference, but they're all well drawn.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2005, 11:42:14 am »
i'll draw a few. i have *loads* of book on animals