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« on: November 06, 2003, 09:48:55 pm »
What little trade secrets do you swear by in art?

Prismacolor Full set of pencil crayons. They can blend so smoothly. Never any problems!

White Gel Pens. Great for 'hard' lighting effects, anime hair, and PVC-look!

Gum/kneedable eraser. Great for touch-ups.

Playboy. Im not kidding. It's cheaper then a medical book, and it's not as smutty as some magazines of that nature. It also gives a realistic look at muscle tone under the skin.
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2003, 12:51:53 am »
All of the above, though I don't have any playboy mags.  '<img'>

I love chalk as well for the easy to create large backgrounds and be able to erase pictures within it!
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2003, 07:30:50 am »
Little secrets? I don't have any really, I normally draw something with three differnt types of pencil but that's about it!
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2003, 01:40:44 pm »
India ink and a plume when inking on a drawing. I'm still learning to be better with it, but seriously, I haven't found anything so far that has such consistant color for inking with that kind of control.

In photoshop, layer color correction for sketches or drawings I want to line. I reset the color of the background layer to blue, and it makes it SO easier to actually draw on a higher layer when I line it. ^^
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2003, 09:46:39 pm »
a quiet place and an open mind are necessary.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2003, 10:16:00 pm »
Ticonderoga pencil...always, coupled with a mechanical pencil for it's usefulness in small detail.
Kneedable eraser, have too dark a line or what not? Presto! it's lighter without the smears and shrapnel of a normal eraser.
And yes, I've used playboys in the past because it's not as "hardcore" as half the other ones out there, and it does have it's usefulness as ecco stated.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2003, 11:24:36 pm »
Photoshop is my god!

I've used playgirl in the past, but I have a deck of tarot cards that has really light/airy illustrations, and I've used it as a guide for a while.  James O'Barr's and David Finch's work has also been a great inspiration to me as well.

I'm very picky with my pencils as well.  It HAS to be a .5 mechanical pencil with a soft grip, an end that dosen't allow the lead to move, and H or F lead.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2003, 09:16:01 pm »
Ideno for inspiration (seriously)...

A kneaded eraser is a must for me when I use (colored) pencils or pastels...

Music...I ussually listen to music whenever I draw...it helps me concentrate... (except school, which is 73h 5ux0r5!!!'<img'>

A circle tablet for starting heads; for some reason when I start the head off in a perfect circle the rest of the skecth looks neater+cleaner too...maybe it's subconcious or something...lol

And Adobe Photoshop Elements of Art 2.0; I like this program alot better than PS7 (I own both). I find it's simplier to use than 7 and I have everything I need in it...plus I've found 7 to be annoying...lol
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2003, 04:20:09 am »
I'd just like to point out, as I'm probably expected to do, one nudgy little detail of this post.

You've just asked people to share their secrets.

To the people above: Those are no longer secrets. This paradoxial post cancels itself out. Once they're posted and read once by someone else, they are no longer secrets so could no longer logically be on this page.

Of course, if they are not here, then you never read them and they are still secrets, which validates their existence on the page.

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2003, 03:19:10 pm »
my favorite paradox was, "i always lie". i dont get it, that means i always lie, but telling you that would be a truth if i really did always lie. i could even be lieing (sp?) right now. well anyways im just rambling on. plus alot of these posts arent really secrets. they are more like personal preferences.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2003, 05:22:48 pm »
Little secrets....hmm.....

Something I did once to work on clothing was take a picture of me and color myself in paint, looking at shadows and ect. The clothing looked pretty good, even if I looked sort of pale. I need to work on clothing some more...mine still looks pretty bad...><

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2004, 11:15:41 pm »
Hmm... Google?  I know I've used it's image search feature to get an idea of what whatever it is I'm drawing looks like.

I don't know if everyone already knows this but... If you're using photoshop and you scan a black and one picture, (like one that you inked for example) then you can make duplicate layer and set it to multiply. Then you can edit a layer below that, and it's like the white part is transparent.

Skunki: There's an easy answer to the paradox "I always lie". If you lie only part of the time. Then this statement can be a lie without being made true (if that makes sence).





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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2004, 12:46:50 pm »
0.5 or 0.7 mechanical pencil (Either will do, but which I use depends on the drawing's content)

A 'hard' eraser (You know, it's not that moldable stuff. It's just a little squarish eraser)

Strathmore Sketch sketchbook (I cant really use anything but; I'm too used to the way the paper feels to switch over now)

Music. MUSIC! I CANNOT draw without music of some kind. My ability just completely disappears when there is an absence of music.

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2004, 01:50:29 pm »
An airbrush. Great for all sorts of shading and effects.

Toilet paper. I sometimes dab or smear paint with a ball of toilet paper to create textures.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2004, 02:07:50 pm »
1.-toilet paper to prevent doing a mess while inking and doing everything.
2.- Mechanical pencil, very soft 0.5
3.- stylographs ( pens used to ink maps ) of 0.5 and 0.35.
for hard and bolder lines i use 0.5
but 0.35 is kinda hard to control.
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2004, 02:08:34 pm »
Quote (Ecco @ Nov. 06 2003, 8:48 pm)
What little trade secrets do you swear by in art?

Prismacolor Full set of pencil crayons. They can blend so smoothly. Never any problems!

White Gel Pens. Great for 'hard' lighting effects, anime hair, and PVC-look!

Gum/kneedable eraser. Great for touch-ups.

Playboy. Im not kidding. It's cheaper then a medical book, and it's not as smutty as some magazines of that nature. It also gives a realistic look at muscle tone under the skin.

wondering if you can get these kind of gel pens in office max and these kind of shops..
wallmart maybe?
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2004, 08:18:34 am »
If you cant find any white gel pens you could try looking for correction fluid pens. I'm sure I've seen those around and it'd probably work just as well

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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2004, 02:15:13 pm »
extra soft erasers, tech pens and art pens, prisma colors,
and for photoshop the masking tool
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2004, 04:24:08 pm »
came across some new tools (for me anyway) which people might find useful;

Pure graphite stick: Can come in pencil shape or in larger blocks of varying shapes (mine's hexagonal, I've seen rectangular ones though). They allow a type of shading which is very paint like.

Pilot Croquis: Something I found in an art store recently. I dunno if anyone else makes this kinda thing, but it's like a mech pencil with softer leads. The leads are also thicker than in most mech pencils, probably slightly wider than usual pencil leads. They allow the same shading as the graphite sticks in a less fragile form (pure graphite is kinda fragile unless you get one of the thicker blocks) It can also be used like a softer pencil, meaning no more sharpeners (great for in class '<img'>)

You can get leads ranging from HB to 8B I think, didn't see any H leads though

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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2004, 05:50:46 pm »
That's probably a drafting pencil, they take 2mm pencil leads. Those are great. I have one as well, it has a small built-in sharpener, and also a set of 2B and 4B leads. Haven't touched an ordinary pencil ever since I got it. '<img'>
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2004, 02:10:44 pm »
i used to have one of those but a friend of mine got the lead jammed in it... it was okay but it really wasnt a fine enough lead for me.. i prefer the straight up mech pencils.

oh and btw dose any one have a tip on how to keep prismacolor pencils from smudgeing?
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2004, 03:00:33 pm »
You can put a small piece of paper under your hand.
The shop where you bought the Prismas probably also sells fixative spray cans, that also works. Look for one that says "workable", so you can add more color after spraying two or three layers.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2004, 12:36:52 pm »
thanks for the tip ^^
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2004, 04:31:23 pm »
Another Prismacolor trick I learned recently: you can blend the colors on paper with turpenoid and some tissue or a Q-tip. It gives it a more aquarellish look, and it won't smudge either.
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