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Offline cybercat

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« on: November 18, 2004, 06:17:14 pm »
I need you all's help.

What can I do to make my art work more appealing?  Aside drawing naughty things which I just don't want to do, is there something I'm not doing that makes some artists really great?

Yea do more backgrounds. I'm working on that part. But style wise or subject matter or themeing is there some where you'd like to see me go?  

Thanks for your suggestions! I really wish I knew what Im doing wrong. Or just not doing at all. It really isn't just the naughtiness is it? Or is it the artist's out right personality. Am I too shy?


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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2004, 04:02:11 am »
Cybercat -


Well, first of all, let me tell you I think your stuff is quite appealing. (and I got a big laugh out of that Harry Potter/My Little Pony thing)

I think art is really subjective, and that there's not really a right or wrong way to do it. There is, of course, a right and wrong way if you're going for realistic perspective, shading, anatomy, etc. (something I don't do) but I don't see any "problems" there, either - in fact, IMHO, you have an especially good way with muscles.


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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2004, 09:37:50 am »
First off, your art is great and I personally think that an artist should do whatever they want to do, and not what other people ask/suggest/tell them to.

But anyway. Here are some things I noticed.
 - Lots of "portraits". Nothing wrong with that, especially since a lot of furry art is just you drawing yourself or your friends. And almost none of your images are overly static, so it's even less of a problem. But just try some spontaneous angles or perspectives sometime.
 - Add something funny. Funny stuff always gets noticed by people. I mean, just thinking about it and I realise that I've known about your Harry Potter/My Little Pony images for a while (as in, longer than a few weeks and I still remember it). It has a downside in that people will expect you to have more funny content.
 - Maybe you're too good, and it turns people off. It happens. So go and make a gallery full of crap '<img'> Just get a piece of A4 paper and the largest marker you've got and try and draw anything. Personally, I like to draw happy suns, smily flowers and stick people '<img'>
Of course, doing that'll mean that some people may think you've gone insane, but it's a lot of fun.

And I don't know, but I guess if you're shy, that could be a factor. I mean, I'm ultra shy and I know that everything I do is crap, so I don't do all that much. And sure, I do suck compared to any real artist, but I'm probably not really quite as bad as I think, well at least at digital drawing/colouring anyway.

Just remember that the harshest critic will always be yourself, and then remember that anything you draw is always good as long as you want to do it and are having fun.


EDIT: y'know what? I just spent over an hour and a half looking through your art, I was gonna go to bed at midnight and it's past 1:30am '<img'>




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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2004, 08:07:17 pm »
I really wanna look at your site, but I gotta wait til I'm not at work.
I would like to say thank you for not selling out yourself for popularity.  It's always good to have your own style.
Rock on.
Also, know that it's hard to get any kind of response from the public at all.  So there could be a million people drooling over your art right now, and you might not even know!  =^_^=
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2004, 09:24:54 pm »
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What can I do to make my art work more appealing?


Now, before I say anything else, I just have to say please do not draw to make your art more appealing to others. Now, believe me, I know what a hard trap this is to avoid. On the one hand, we want our art to make people happy, or sad, or understanding, we want people to feel when they see our art. This is, in my opinion, a fine thing. But then, we also want a lot of people to see our art. And we also want a lot of people to like it. Whether they like it or not, I think, does not really matter, as long as we are sincere.
That said, I'm totally sorry if I missed your point entirely.

If, on the other hand, you have just reached a plateau (sp?) in your art, and you feel a drive to become a better artist, well, I can relate to you there. I see in your gallery you aren't lacking in technical skills whatsoever. But still, they are mostly portraits, which are rather bland. What would do you good is some emotion. Yeah, I know, easier said than done. It's hard to express emotion in a piece without it turning into a simple illustration. Also, for me, it's hard to be feeling the emotion while i'm drawing, which can dilute it a lot.
What I'm trying to say is, I think your pictures need some depth. There isn't much beyond the surface. I'm not saying I actually know how to do that, god, I would give anything to know.

Again, I'm sorry if I took this the wrong way, or didn't explain myself well. If you want to talk more in-depth feel free to pm me.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2004, 08:59:22 am »
I see nothing wromg with the material...most of this it at were-artist level...and a broad range of material...however

your site is a Overload to those of us on dialup.  this is one reason I have such a hard tiome getting my own sites set up, as I don't like using thumbnails, and you use SHRUNK versions of yor pics INSTEAD of thumbs...i am STILL loading your page atm.

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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2004, 04:36:26 pm »
To : animagusurreal

Thankyou!!

To:Kasarn
Yer right too many pinups. =) Got that suggestion alot. And you are right i won't let it become unfun. Thankyou so much =)

To:Kattywampus

I hope ya got a chance to look =)

To:Sskessa
Heh. Thanks so much! Do not worry I am not drawing only to please people but as I do want to sell my art I do need to cater some what to what the public wants. I just won't do it if I hate it or disagree with it. I really appreciate ya taking the time to answer my question!!

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2004, 05:21:36 pm »
Draw what the fandom asks of you.

The key to being a sucessful artist is to draw as much of what people ask for as you possibly can. I think your art is fantastic. I'll be watching you on DA...  ':?:'

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2004, 07:06:20 pm »
If it's a matter of people liking your work, I dont think you'll have much of a problem. Your compositions good, anatomy's definately better than a lot I've seen (hard to tell with furs though ':p') and you seem to vary your subject matter (besides teh previously mentioned pinups)

If it's a matter of getting people looking at your work, it's a bit different. First thing is that your site takes a while to load cause of all the images on one page, so split it into seperate directories. That way people can find subject matter they're interested in.

Once that's done, you'd need to work on exposure. How many places do you post your work on for people to see? (forum, gallery, etc) If someone sees one of your pictures on a forum and likes it, they'll start looking at more, and if they like these they'll mention you to other people too.

The other part to this is kind of a sell out. If you do requests for a few people they like then they'll want to point it out to other people, who will then make requests if they like your work. Eventually you'd get onto charging for these (if you're already doing commissions though, you could do quick sketches as requests and full on pictures as commissions to give people some incentive to buy) This will get more people looking at your work than just generally showing off your work, since people will want to point out their portraits to their friends (places like furcadia or mucks where large groups of people know each other would be especially good for this)

Anyway, hope you find that useful. Feel free to ignore it though if it's not what you were looking for ':p'

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2004, 09:53:21 pm »
I am of the mindset that your artwork should be created because it appeals to you foremost, if anybody else gets it it's only a plus '<img'> There are pictures that people think are so hopelessly misproportioned but I simply love them regardless '<img'>

Browsing your sites there your drawing ability sure isn't in question, so do what you want to do, and eventually they will follow. (or else! ;P)