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Offline Sadarius Wolf

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« on: December 13, 2004, 08:05:23 pm »
I want to get a computer coloring program for Christmas, but i've been told not to get PSP. So I want to know what YOU think is the best to get! Any answer is fine, and I would hate to stick with colored pencils, because there are pieces of mine hat deserve better! And, unbelievable to some. I don't know all abbrev. so could you type them out at least once? Thanks.
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Blending, fill, layers, a way to get only the black lines to show on the original layer, less than.. oh.. $300 (but that's not the major issue), and somewhat easy, I can handle difficult.
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2004, 09:54:07 pm »
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and I would hate to stick with colored pencils, because there are pieces of mine that deserve better!


Well, I just want to say, don't underestimate any medium. Colored pencils may not have that "Ooh shiny" appeal, but they can add a lot more depth to your work than a computer program could. Go with what you enjoy working with rather than what's popular.

Sorry I can't help you with your actual question though... ':p'
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2004, 10:58:41 pm »
I use Photoshop, but GIMP is free and does 98% of everything Photoshop can do - link... I'd check it out before you decide what will at best be some 300 bucks for Paint Shop Pro, upwards of 600 for Photoshop...

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2004, 11:15:09 pm »
I can testify to GIMP's cababilities. I've used it exclusively for several years now ':cool:'

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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2004, 02:52:57 am »
I got PSP for 30.

But yeah, colouring pencils, if used well, are a wonderful medium that shouldn't be put down.

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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2004, 03:09:54 am »
Some of the best wildlife art I've seen was done with colored pencils. (Just an example)

Anyway, you can find the installers of Gimp for Windows right here.




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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2004, 03:17:41 am »
I got a 404 on that, but it still stands, lol.  I just like seeing hand-coloured art, it has this distinctiveness to it that I don't see in much computer-colouring =/

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2004, 03:37:54 am »
Oh, it seems that wetcanvas.com doesn't allow deeplinking. (If you've never been there, go take a look! It's an artists forum, but with great WIPs and tutorials, and a wildlife section.)
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2004, 12:09:13 am »
Well I'd say if Photoshop wasn't around 800 dollars that it would be your best choice.  I have Photoshop 7.0, I had 5.0 earlier and taught myself.  My dad introduced me to PS 5.0 and taught me a few basics, now about 3 years later, I'm 20 times better than he is.  So if you need any help with Photoshop, I can help.  Otherwise, well...I have no experience with Gimp, and very little with PSP.  I like Photoshop because no matter how long I use it, I always find another feature that is significantly helpful to my art, even though I suck at CG coloring  ':cry:' .  I haven't tried colored pencils that much, but my sister got me some Prismacolors so I might as well try my paw at it.  As far as what medium to use, go with anything.  I find that if you're REALLY good at CG, it's the best looking.  For example, Jeremy Bernal.  While CG art is interesting if it's really good, painting, sketching, or coloring with pencils still has great looks too.  I'd say just moderate what you draw.  I need to do that.  As long as you have fun doing it, do it.  Anyway...yes.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2004, 04:38:14 pm »
hmm...buy *quizzical look  ':?:' *

I would have to say not to get Paint Shop Pro, as I hear it slammed so much when compared to photoshop  '<img'> I've used it a few times and wasn't very impressed. One thing you can do, and the best way to really find out which is best for you, is to get a demo of Adobe Photoshop 7 or 8 (aka CS). Also, Corel Painter XI is another one I know a lot of artists prefer over photoshop because of all the capabilities it has. I guess it's not so time consuming to make brushes and settings and what not with it and it's offered as a prize on a lot of the big CG forums. You can get a demo of both which will allow you to mess with them (I think Corel Painter XI is fully functional, I haven't installed the demo yet).

Also, just from what I have seen, Photoshop is used mainly for very smooth hyperrealistic coloring while Painter XI is used to achieve a more traditional feel. They both are great programs once you understand how to use them. If you want to manipulate images or do other functions aside from simple drawing, Photoshop might be your best bet. But like I said...demo  ':p'





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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2004, 03:02:17 pm »
I swear by photoshop.  Version 6.0 for my coloring, and CS for a lot of my backgrounds.  I don't use it because it's what's popular, but it's because it's what I'm best at.  When I do real media coloring, I have a really soft touch, so a lot of the times when I use them, my shading dosen't look very deep or it just dosen't have the "edge" that I want it to.  Another reason would be the fact that I frequently get frustrated because I can't get the smoothness and rich colors that I can with computer programs.

There are a few websites out there where you can buy those programs cheaply.  I got my version of photoshop cs for around $100.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2005, 06:39:04 am »
Photoshop is an amazing program, as well is Painter.  But even though I use Photoshop everyday at work there's just some things that it can't emulate.  If you get good enough with colored pencils, there's nothing anyone can make in Photoshop that can match it.  I'd suggest trying out a free program first, never tried Gimp, but seems to be popular.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2005, 04:19:31 pm »
i need to get a tutorial on painter.

i've had someone tell me you cant do #### on painter classic. but i've seen some awesome art done with it.... i just gotta figure out how they did it.
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