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« on: December 16, 2004, 06:02:53 pm »
can you learn to draw because I can't draw at all and I really wanted to draw an avatar for my fursona but I can't even draw a straight line. can you actually learn to draw or do you have to have a natural talent?
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2004, 06:33:59 pm »
Heres a good site for How to Drawing Furries Ulario has also printed a book thats super.

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2004, 06:38:37 pm »
You can learn to do anything you put your mind to. I think most people who draw have been doing so since they were young, so they have lots of experience.
If I were you, I'd take some classes at your school or, failing that, they can be found at your local community centers (look up your town's "parks & recreation" dept.).
Try drawing from life, even if you don't want to do realism forever, it's a good start. Have a friend pose for you! Draw your pet! Anyone can learn to draw, it's a very fullfilling, and worth everything you put into it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2004, 06:48:58 pm »
Yes, you can learn to draw. Natural talent helps of course, but drawing is a skill, and like any skill it can be learned. The main thing you'd need to do if just starting out is to practice and start really looking at things. You have to know what something looks like to draw it. But the main thing is to do it. You can't learn to draw without trying.

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2004, 09:21:33 pm »
You can't teach someone to draw, the most you can do is teach someone how to use a pencil.  Sure you can help someone by teaching them the physics of color theory, muscles, bones, fur, whatever, but to draw is really something you learn yourself.
          Don't use tutorials on how to draw in general, you'll get off course from what you need to learn, and oftentimes you'll end up thinking that this is the only way to do it.  If you like how something looks, try drawing it (not tracing) and do this about twice a night if you can.  This can be a picture someone else drew, a photo, doodle, or whatever you want to copy.  Just remember that you can't steal it, but you can recreate it for your own purposes as long as you respect copyright and keep it to yourself.  Every once in a while, try to draw something of your own, without looking at the picture, or just modify a pictures pose.  I did this for two years and it's the only reason I'm as good as I am.  This helps teach you different styles too.  Some tutorials you may want to use in exception to my statement are body art tutorials, figure tutorials, and foreshortening tutorials.  If you get into any advanced stuff like CG coloring, painting, or related subjects, you may want some tutorials to get you started.  To answer your question:
You don't need natural talent to draw.  Things you do need:

1. The Passion; you need to want to draw good.

2. Self-confidence; if all else fails, look at someones art that is worse than yours  '<img'>  just don't make fun of them for it, respect it.  This helps you learn that nobody is perfect and there is always room for improvement, no matter who you are or how good you may be.
  
3. Patience; you can't give up because one thing looks wrong (I shouldn't say that since I do it all the time, but I'm working on it) I find that almost 90% of the time I start something and it looks like crap, if I finish it, it ends up good.  This is also why I never leave in the middle of a movie if it looks like crap, it just may get better.

I guess that's all you really need.  One thing you need but must know how to use is self-critisism.  If you never point out your faults, you may never fix them.  Just don't degrade yourself to the point where you tear up everything you touch with a pencil >.>

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2004, 08:16:00 am »
Well, I'm going to tell you what I tell everyone else.  Anyone can learn to draw if they dedicate themselves to it.  All it takes is time and practice.  The reason many people seem to have a natural talent for it is because they start when they are very young.  And children are more likely to dedicate themselves to a new thing then an adult.

Most artists have to work their entire life to be as good as they are.  In my entire life, I've only met one... possibly 2 people who seemed to be born with that talent... which is saying a lot since I am a dual art/graphic design major in college so I know a lot of talented artists.  I've been drawing for nearly 22 years, and I'm still not where I want to be.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2004, 12:45:15 pm »
Quote (Savaaha @ Dec. 16 2004, 6:33 pm)
Heres a good site for How to Drawing Furries Ulario has also printed a book thats super.

':dead:' Incredibly good site!! That's incredibly good. I'm going to have to download that and infuse it into my drawing style. When I figure out how to work a website, I'll put that link there.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2004, 01:12:35 pm »
Quote (Savaaha @ Dec. 17 2004, 12:33 am)
Heres a good site for How to Drawing Furries

There's also an update available of these tutorials.
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2004, 03:41:13 pm »
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If I were you, I'd take some classes at your school or, failing that, they can be found at your local community centers

Weel i had art in school but i nearly flunked the class. That site that savaaha showed me though is really helpful. I think that will really work. Also she said something about a book that ulario got printed what is the book?
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2004, 11:39:24 pm »
This seems to work...

-Pick up a pencil...draw something
-Realise it sucks...DONT THROW IT OUT
-Repeat for however long you need to, refrencing from your previous pics and realising that you're improving
-continue until you realise you can draw now ^.^
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2004, 11:48:11 pm »
I can't draw but I am learning. '<img'> Always keep, your old drawings, be your own worse critic and try to copy it over and over till you get a feel for it. '<img'>

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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2004, 06:54:39 am »
Drawing isn't just straight lines (that's what rulers are for <^_-> )

If you look, animals and people are made of curved lines. Don't worry about getting the lines perfect.

Try getting a notebook (lined, unlined or sketch. doesn't matter for this) Label it practice: tracing, copying, and scribbles. use it to practice drawing. go ahead and trace and copy pictures in it for practice. scribble (its fun!!'<img'> Tracing should work to help practice drawing nice lines. Copying should help by giving you an original to compare to, and give non-tracing practice. Scribble and doodle, you have your own style and it will make your drawings look diffrent from everyone else's. Once you identify your style you can better tell the diffrence between a bad drawing (one that didn't come out right) and one in your style (it looks like that on purpose).

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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2004, 07:22:48 am »
Just practice practice practice '<img'> Anyone can learn to draw.

What i found helpfull was to study others work, look beyond the final image thats infront of me and picture it as different simple shapes.

Starting your drawing as a stick figure and slowly building it up helps too.

I found This guide on figure making a short while ago, it helped me tons. (they have alot of other good guides too)

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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2004, 10:24:48 am »
Quote (Beta_wolf @ Dec. 18 2004, 3:41 pm)
Quote (Sskessa @ Dec. 16 2004, 6:38 pm)
If I were you, I'd take some classes at your school or, failing that, they can be found at your local community centers

Weel i had art in school but i nearly flunked the class. That site that savaaha showed me though is really helpful. I think that will really work. Also she said something about a book that ulario got printed what is the book?

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2004, 04:14:13 pm »
Others have already said it, practice, keep at it, and be passionate about it.

But I will add this, no matter how bad or how good you are, you're always going to find something you don't like about your own artwork. Don't let that discourage you.

Whenever I finish a piece and I think of how nice it looks, then I go online and see someone else's piece that totally blows mine out of the water, it makes me want to quit doing art. But I don't, because I've come to the conclusion that I would be doing artwork regardless if anyone else ever sees it. For every pic I have on my VCL I have about tweenty that didn't make the cut.

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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2004, 09:01:01 pm »
Here's a small tip from me, too.

If you find something you really love to draw, and draw well, keep drawing it. It doesn't matter that you can't draw ocean liners or palm fronds as good as the next guy if you can draw coffee cups and toucans better than they ever could.

The point is to try and excel at what you enjoy, not what you think you should excel at. Eventually it will become something that other people will envy you for and enjoy looking at. It will be "yours", and  all the ocean liners and palm fronds in the world wont be able to dissuade you.

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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2004, 02:34:44 pm »
Well, most of what I would have said has been covered by Ulario already (damn you!  '<img'>)

Only other things I'd add are that you shoudn't worry too much about high school art classes. From my experience they seem to focus more on teaching you to pass exams rather than how to draw (I know someone who, after 3 years of art at high school, said they'd never actually been taught anything about drawing)

Also, the hardest thing about drawing is to draw things as they are rather than as you *think* they should be. that's where people starting later have a disadvantage, they have to override the rules their brain has built up over the years (ranging from a house has 4 windows, a door and a chimney to a roof runs parallel to the horizon no matter what angle you look at it from) It is possible to get around this though, it just takes practice '<img'>

Anyway, good luck with learning to draw. Just give it time and be patient, you will improve with practice (in face, one last suggestion would be to keep old sketchbooks, no matter how embarassing. They'll show you how far you've progressed)

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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2004, 05:47:14 am »
There are some general rules when drawing that will help you out. One thing you may want to do is line drawing. Just look at your room or an object and trace one line to outline everything and it can be as nice or sloppy as you want. The key is just let the pencil move and not get so worked up on it and I find after doing a lot of line drawing I can draw things better as the initial outline is what I have the hardest time with (I can texture the hell out of anything '<img'>). Second, lines are good for an outline, but you really want to define your object by using light and shadow (or various colors). Drawing with light and shadow makes the object look more dynamic and natural, though it really depends on what you are going for.

So, line drawing and drawing with light and shadow, work on that I think you'll be pleased. And remember, practice makes perfect. My main problem is when I have an idea in my head that I find impossible to translate IRL, but you have to start simple and gradually you'll get better.

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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2004, 10:57:38 pm »
Hmmmm, to be honest, I learned most of what i know from looking at others works and copying it to a T, then going back and changeing this or that, and kept doing it untell it was something compleatly diffrent.

But that is a bad habit, or atleast seems to be. As I can't seem to draw really detailed things off the top of my head.

My old art teacher once told me that If you can see something In your head and hold that image. You can draw. Its puting that pen or pencil to paper the first time that scares people. Another thing he said Is NEVER try to make your drawing a masterpiece, just get It down, even If your first attempt is nothing more then a stick figure model of how you WANT it to look.

Of corse he was also high 90% of the time  '<img'>.

Ill flip around and see If I can't find some stuffs to help you. Don't expect to find to many anthro specific drawing tuts, but even human based tuts can help you get things to look right.

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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2005, 06:22:23 am »
The best advice I can give is practice practice practice.  If you are dedicated and truly want to get better you will.  

The art class I took in college was pretty brutal, to pass the class we had to draw 50 pages (25 front and back) of sketches a week.  50 pages a week over 4 semesters is a lot of drawing, but looking at my first sketchbook the improvment is vast.  I guess what I'm getting at is that the best way to get better at drawing, or anything for that matter, is to practice and don't stop, anything is possible.

Also, here's a few tips and tricks I learned to help you practice, these are all practice methods:

1. Don't draw in pencil, or if you do don't have an eraser.  The reason for this is so you don't spend time trying to fix drawings when you should just learn from your mistake and move onto the next sketch.  

2. Commit to a line, if you want to make a curved line, do it in one swift stroke, or at least try to.  Also, don't go over a line multiple times to try to make it work, just let it be and move on.  

3. Don't be too hard on yourself, if you make a bad drawing don't let it get you down, try to learn from what you did wrong and improve it on your next one.  For every decent drawing I do I have 9 others before it that didn't work.  You can be your own worse critic, don't.  

4. Try looking at a drawing and re-creating it, in the long run this isn't the best idea but it works great for getting started.  

5. Go outside and just draw objects, people and animals.  Remember, the more things you draw the more you add to your mental library.  I'm drawing a gryphon for User of Shadows, I've never drawn one before so I actualy had to do a little research before I could start.  The more things you draw, the more you can create off the top of your head, which is by far the hardest aspect of art.  

Those are just a few tips I can think of at the moment.  Hope it helps!
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