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Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« on: November 15, 2008, 10:39:19 pm »
Reading about how Kaloyan Alett and a few other members want to possibly have more realistic fursuits, got me to thinking and posting this topic. ;) For those that want to commission someone for a more realistic fursuit, or maybe you're making your own realistic fursuit, or maybe there are fursuit makers out there that need more tips, skills, etc. to better create realistic fursuits for your clients, Have you tried watching all the behind-the-scenes features on sci-fi and horror movie DVD's or looking at books or magazines on movie production or special effects?
Watching all those special "extras" from horror, sci-fi, and fantasy creature films on the DVD's about how the effects were done and the monsters were made might give you inspiration on how to design and construct your own fursuit.
Movie DVD's such as:
The Chronicles of Narnia
The Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Tim Burton's version of Planet of the Apes
........etc., etc., etc.
Or even going to a library or bookstore to research about costume making, movie production, special effects, etc. Also don't forget to look in the magazine section for titles such as Fangoria, Starlog, Cinescape, etc. as there are a lot of entertainment magazines that talk about movies and the movie industry.

Granted, you're probably not going to have or be able to create something realistic like the Hollywood special effects artists are able to create, but all that info. in those DVD's and books can give you ideas and inspiration on materials to use, styles, colors, creature shapes and sizes, etc., etc.

Or if you're feeling really lucky and must absolutely have a realistic creature suit and you have won the lottery, you can buy authentic movie props and costumes such as the following:
Complete werewolf costume from the movie Dog Soldiers.  :o
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Re: Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 10:56:29 pm »
Most of those mags I've never even heard of before. I do look at the special features on movies when it's ones that seemed to use good special effects, in this case good = non CGI.

Movies by James Cameron are among the top movies for me to watch the special features for, along with movies that use sophisticated puppets. It's this very reason, Kobuk, that I watch because to me CGI is just an overused fad, sure it can make things realalistic, but if you want something real looking why not make it right?

I'll have to see those magazines in the future, once again my fursuiting friend you have proven yourself a deep well of knowledge...... Or a dog with waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too much time on your hands.
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Re: Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 11:13:24 pm »
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Or a dog with waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too much time on your hands.

Yes, it's true. I have waaaaaayyyyyyyyy too much time on my hands.  :-[  :D
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Re: Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 01:21:52 am »
Yes, it's true. I have waaaaaayyyyyyyyy too much time on my hands.  :-[  :D

Indeed. :o

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Besides, is that Dog Soldiers costume even "public friendly". I mean... it does resemble closely to a naked human body.
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Re: Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 12:24:26 pm »
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once again my fursuiting friend you have proven yourself a deep well of knowledge...

Well, not that deep. ;) There's still a lot of stuff I don't know or may not have information to. So if I don't post about something in a thread, then someone else can take over or has better info./resources. Everyone is welcome to share whatever fursuiting knowledge they have. :)

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Besides, is that Dog Soldiers costume even "public friendly". I mean... it does resemble closely to a naked human body.

There doesn't appear to be any "bits and pieces" showing on the suit if you know what I mean. ;)

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Re: Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 12:51:52 pm »
Indeed. :o

Each time, you surprise again and again.

Besides, is that Dog Soldiers costume even "public friendly". I mean... it does resemble closely to a naked human body.

The fur in the groin area suggests it's covering naughty bits, but there are no naughty bits on the suit.  If you watch the special features on the Dog soldiers movie however, the suits are not public friendly in the sense they have very little balance and minimal vision in them.  The Stilts are awkwards to move in, and often require 2 helpers to keep them upright when not walking around.
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Re: Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2008, 01:27:56 pm »
The fur in the groin area suggests it's covering naughty bits, but there are no naughty bits on the suit.  If you watch the special features on the Dog soldiers movie however, the suits are not public friendly in the sense they have very little balance and minimal vision in them.  The Stilts are awkwards to move in, and often require 2 helpers to keep them upright when not walking around.

That's part of the reason that I haven't really drawn much from the movie industry.  I've watched some "making of" features that had step by step instructions for some of the most awesome costumes ever... but the costumes are just no use for a convention, a party, or anything else off the silver screen.  Think about Lord of the Rings.  The way the hobbits had big feet that looked so perfect.  They used real yak hair to simulate hairy toes.  I could make latex feet with real yak hair, and it would be terrific, right?  Well, not so right.  Because they had to make, individual yak hair and all, a new pair of feet for every hobbit for every day of shooting.  They only last and look good for one day!  So what use is that to me?  Not much!  Nobody would buy a costume item that I'd have to charge hundreds for (hand hairing takes time!) and that was only good for one wear!  Or how about the beetle monster suits from the Dark Crystal?  If I ever found out how they made those, that would be pretty awesome.  But they were so cumbersome that it was a process of hours to get in and out of the suits, and so heavy that they could only be worn for minutes at a time.  The actors in the suits were actually hung in special racks so that they could rest without taking the suits off during pauses in filming.

So often the way things work on the screen just isn't any good for things that you want to wear out in the real world.

I still love finding out how they did things, and every now and then I do get a good idea that way, but generally it's just interesting, and not the least bit useful to my work.

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Re: Special Effects used to create fursuits.
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 07:48:34 pm »
That's the trouble with "movie Magic".

They look great on screen and if done properly, suggest that they are possible in real life... but that's never the case.
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