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Title: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 18, 2016, 12:23:52 pm
Now that the election is over, I thought it would be good to have a place
to post how Trump, the GOP and Democrats work together. Along with
problems they may have or proposed laws and or changes.


We can give some opinons, but let's not make it a debate. We have
a place for Debates.

Currently Trump and the two major parties are in a transistion, so it's hard
to know what will happen after Jan 20th of 2017.

Trump is testing the waters as he looks to fill his cabinet.  So far he hasn't
really made any solid picks, but he wants to enclude some of his family which
is  likely to cause problems as there are laws against hiring family. Also it's
interesting how Trump is bypassing the same security he called Clinton out for
as he talks to foreign leaders on a unsecure cellphone. Trump tweeted that Ford
wasn't moving it's SUV plan in KY to Mexico, but he didn't pass on the info that
Ford had never planned to move it, but implyed it was because he told Ford not
to. It appears Trump is learning to be a politician.

The GOP is flying high hoping to pass laws to change medicare, ACA and other
things people depend on. Trump said he wouldn't support changes to medicare
or social security, but time will tell.  Also they are talking about starting the wall,
it's likely just talk. They know Mexico won't pay for it. I heard some day the GOP
has their eye on the social securiety fund to cover new expenses. They have done
that in the past, so they may again.

The Democrats are in a tisy trying to figure out how to gain seats in governlment
not only in the federal goverment, but across the country. Also they are makiplans
about trying to slow down the GOP hoping to limit changes to things they worked
hard for. I think they best return to their roots helping the common man, and not
the rich people who can help them selves.


I will post more as I feel there is something to pass along.  I will post links on
significant news reports. This is mostly a commentary on government.. I get my
information at MSnbc.  www.msnbc.com
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Dimocrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 19, 2016, 11:11:22 am
The freedom of the press is very important for a people of any
country.  Trump seems to be trying to convince the public the
press isn't trustworthy. He hides from the press every chance
he gets. He should know as president he is in the public eye, with
no privacy. He constantly tries to hide from the media that he doesn't
control, and still hasn't released his tax returns.

Trump agreed to pay $25 million to settle his university fraud law suit. He
said it was because it would enterfear with his transition work. I wonder
how many people would give away that much money to save a few hours
of testimony.  I have a hunch he was afraid of the questions he might be
asked to answer under oath. Seems Trump feels he has much to hide, Should
we be worried? It might only be a habit he has from being in big business.
Only time will tell.

Not much new on the GOP other they have been showing some concern
about some Trumps proposed cabinet members. Along with the Democrats,
and the media. I think it's odd how the GOP was against Trump untill after
the election and now they practically bow in his presence. Seems a bit
of hypocrisy  to me. Will the GOP show the same concern for any suspicion of
corruption by Trump and family as they did for the Clintons? Politics being
what it is I doubt it, but time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 19, 2016, 05:12:34 pm
you can bet it's all going to be the same. The same broken party is in control of the house and senate. Trump will be looked upon as a temporary annoyance. They will block any of his efforts to 'change' things. I hear trump wants to do a new deal bill to get the economy going. For those of us who don't know what this was. FDR paid people to build roads. As someone put it. Paid one man to dig a hole. Paid another to fill it. This got many people working again and helped fix the slump the economy was in at that time. Until some unscrupulous people convinced FDR it wasn't working. Anyway trump wants to do this with both government and privet monies. This is how I see this going down. He will put the bill forward. The house and senate will hold America hostage over Obama Care. Trump will refuse to get rid of Obama Care. The republicans will refuse to pass any new deal bill. The republicans will also defeat any of trumps proposed changes in special intrust or lobbyist groups.

The irony of  trumps proposed 'truth in media' is it will shut down every media outlet that supported him. If he does try to force this he could be seen as unconstitutional and impeached. Trump has no idea what he's got himself into.

Acting like a spoiled brat will only turn more people against him. Trump is a pathological lier. He will say one thing. Then say something else. Then deny he said either things. He is a psychotic narcissist who wont be able to help himself.  He's going to make Clinton's "I didn't have sex with that woman" sound like Winnie the Poo's "Now were is my honey jar".  There is a pun in there. I do hope you get it.  :)

What would really be fun to watch. If the republican party looks to favor a truth in media bill will fox news network suddenly see the light? Start preaching the glories of the democrats and the evils of the republican empire......... :D

I really hope after these next four years America finally gets it. There is only one way to get Washington to work. Vote people in who are willing to do the job.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 20, 2016, 12:06:12 pm
Trump
I think time will show who Trump really is. He had a meeting with Romney for
secretary of state. On "Meet the Press" one of Trumps people said the meeting
went well. Trump will continue to have problems with mixing his business and
his presidency though. Just saying he won't isn't enough.

Democrats
Senator Sandors says he will work with Trump on some of his progressive ideas, but
will fight him and remind Trumps supporters if his promises turn out to be lies. He
feels Trump should apologize for all the bad things he said during the campain. Also
tell the extreeme right to stop harassing people, and tell them he has no plans to
support their racist ways. He should also publicly apologize to Obama for his claims
that Obama wasn't an ameerican. The statement he made saying Obama was an
american wasn't an apogee.

World thoughts
Some leaders around the world are concerned that we have elected a fascist. Or at
least a man who could turn into one. Several countries have racist nationalistic
movements. Similar to before WWII.. I hope we don't see it grow here.

GOP
If the GOP isn't carful  their ideas could lead to a world depression. Much worse than
the recession we had in 2008. Turning the economy over to the rich without regulations
is a dead end for the middle  class, much less the poor. Our economy is strong, but the
middle class is loosing ground. That's why many people voted for Trump. I fear he will do
little to turn it around. Much less the GOP.

Go to www.msnbc.com    If you wish to read more about about current political news.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 20, 2016, 01:02:07 pm
First MSMBC has the same love of propaganda as fox news network. Not to be trusted. Secondly it would be ridiculous for trump to tell people to not be racist. Seeing the cabinet of hard lined racist he's building. Fueling a divide in this country would only serve his push for trickle down economics. Not going to speculate here. Just going by what he's said and how he's rhetoric has played out through this election. Then adding who he's surrounding himself with.

No matter who our psychotic pathological lier is he doesn't have the power he he wants. No matter who he surrounds himself with.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 21, 2016, 12:05:47 pm
First MSMBC has the same love of propaganda as fox news network. Not to be trusted. Secondly it would be ridiculous for trump to tell people to not be racist. Seeing the cabinet of hard lined racist he's building. Fueling a divide in this country would only serve his push for trickle down economics. Not going to speculate here. Just going by what he's said and how he's rhetoric has played out through this election. Then adding who he's surrounding himself with.

No matter who our psychotic pathological lier is he doesn't have the power he he wants. No matter who he surrounds himself with.

The legislature has the power, but the president can cause problems by appointing people
to jobs they shouldn't have. Be it due to politics, racialism, ignorance or just being
incompetent. Of courese Trump wouldn't be the first man who became president that
gave government jobs to people that shouldn't get them. I imagine most will manage to
do well. If I remember right President Reagan sent about 3000 people home who thought
they were to get government jobs because they were supporters. I imagine they were
sorely disappointed. Apparently he felt handing out jobs for political reasons was wrong.

I admit msnbc has some liberal pundants, but they do invite all parties to speak and answer
questions. Even if it's only to make a speech about their party line.  It was Senator Sanders
who said Trump should appoligize for his comments and to publicly say he doesn't support
racist ideas..  He said that on "Meet the Press" last sunday. Not an exact quote.

I know the news media tends to be biased at times, but who else do we look to? The
internet is full of questionable stories and lies. Most of what I have seen in the major
media outlets is not telling the whole truth, but what they think will keep the public's
interest. After all it is largely a business to make money.

If we discard everything, but what we hear our politicians say directly. We would know
only what they want us to hear. At least the media gives us information we couldn't
know otherwise. If it's biased or full of half truths it will catch up to them in most
cases.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 23, 2016, 12:17:58 pm
It's been a couple days. and Trump has given us what he wants to do in
his first 100 days.  Like Obama he wants to improve our infrastructure, and
work on trade. Nothing said about the ACA or the Wall.. Trump claims he can
mix business with his office of president. It may be legal, but I have a hunch it
is full of land mines for him and his family.  One big problem is he can be impeached
for taking a bribe of any kind. Our founders worried that foreign powers might try
to influence a president with gifts, property or money.

GOP
Isn't it interesting how busy the GOP plans to be now that they have Trump. Obama
wanted to work on infrastructure for years. The GOP said no. Now they appear to be
for it.  They may be looking at Trump with a bit of worry in their hearts. Lately he hasn't
been quite as conservative as they hoped.

Dem
Though the democrats are the minority party they can make it difficult to get laws
or appointments through the senate. They need to be watching this infrastructure
bill as it arrives. It's likely to have a lot of incentives and tax breaks for rich contractors
in such a large deal that has billions of dollars involved.  The public might not care if
someone gets a lot richer as long as jobs are made, but sometimes it's the job of
government to see that crooked deals are not made even if it looks good in the
short term. We should remmeber it's the generations to come that will pay the
price, and the costs should be kept down where possible.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 24, 2016, 11:36:04 am
Trump
He is spending the Holiday with family.. That is fine. But when he is
president will he take off for holidays instead of doing the countries
business? Being president of the USA is a 24 hours a day seven day
a week job.

At over 2 million votes behind Clinton in the popular vote
shouldn't he consider those who voted for Clinton when making
decisions? He may say he owes his supporters, but he has no mandate
to do so. Just because a outdated system that catered to the slave states
put him in office, he shouldn't forget he wasn't the peoples choice.

The GOP doesn't want to talk about the popular vote. They don't want
rock the boat that gave them more power. Will the GOP make sure
that Trump follows the constitution with his business practices? Only
time wil tell..

The Democrats should be pushing for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and
Pennsylvania. There are some irregularities that need to be checked out. Not
so much to change the outcome, but to make sure the vote was accurate with
no corruption.  We can be sure Trump would want the same if he was on the
loosing side..

The Green party is raising money to have a recount for this reason.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 26, 2016, 11:25:43 am
Trump

He claims to be working to keep the Carrier company from moving to Mexico. I hope he is able
to keep Carrier here.. I do wonder how or what incentives Trump can promise to keep the
company profitable enough to provide good wages in the USA. They do have to compete with
other large manufacturers. If they can't compete they will go out of business.

Even if Trump managed to get Congress to raise stiff tariffs on Carriers products, they would
just sell to other countries to make a profit.. If Carrier can continue where it is by making
less money for their stock holders, perhaps they will. We  live in a country that holds free
enterprise, and Capitalism high so it's going to be hard for Congress to stop Carrier if they
really decide to go.


GOP is mostly talking about the death of Castro of Cuba. They want to undo Obam's work
trying to normalize relations between our countries.

Dem is keeping an eye on Trump.

Recounts are staring in Wisconsin. Promoted by the Green and Reform party. Trying to
show the integrity of the voting process. Though the Clinton campain is over seeing
the count, all interested parties are invited to do the same.

During the election millions of ballots were thrown out due to claims they weren't legal.
We need to work to make our voting process better to give all people equal representation.
I fear the GOP has little interest in helping make voting easier. They worked and were
successful in getting the voting rights law weakened by the supreme court.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 29, 2016, 01:20:43 pm
Trump
Ihere are rumors that Trump is looking at privatizing the VA, Medicare, social security, and
doing away with Medicaid. At least the federal government side of things.

Somehow I think the GOP isn't foolish enough to proceed with such ideas. Millions of people
depend on these programs. The Poor, Veterans, elderly, and the handicapped.  I haven't heard
exactly what privatizing means other than people getting vouchers. Then use that to pay for
insurance plans.  Now I really don't think our money grubbing insurance industry is going to
give out insurance to people that have medical problems without charging huge premiums.
Where are these people going to get the extra money? To get on medicaid if it's still around requires
one to be practicaly starving and destitute to qualify.

That would throw a huge expense on the states. If medicaid goes away, nursing homes will
close due to people not having the money to use them. That leaves everything to the private
sector. The private sector is stressed now. So it will leave people to die in the streets, and
homes if they have one. Few family's have the resourses to care for ailing relatives, parents, or
the time. This is another situation where the rich often doesn't understand the needs of the poor.
Or why they are poor.

I know this is a lot of gloom and doom, but it's possible. Hopefully the GOP will come to their
senses and not pursue such a dangerous avenue. Again Time will tell.

The democrats will try to prevent it, but they have limits since they don't control either house of
the legislature.

Personally I don't think there is enough greedy, uncaring people in congress to do such a thing
to those in need, but with everying shifting to the right anything is possible. They did reduce
the food stamp program by 5 billion dollars claiming they were trying to reduce the publics
dependance on goverment. Then turned around and give big subsidies to rich corporate
farmers. Guess rich people are more needy than the poor.  :P It's likely they have more
friends.

Hopefully this stays only a rumor, but one of Trumps appointments has been
trying to privatize everything for years.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 30, 2016, 11:13:59 am
Turns out the Russians were very envolved in trying to get Trump elected. Even though
the GOP and Trump played it down. They knew about it, but didn't want to talk about it.

Trump has made many promises, but his picks for his cabinet gives us little
to hope for.

For national security he picks a man who let his maid see secrete codes.

For health services he picks a man who wants to privatize all the health care the
government provides for the disadvantaged. and poor. Not to mention he is very
cozy with the pharmaceutical industry.

For the treasury he picks a billionair who made most of his money taking
advantage of people.

He picks a woman to represent our country in the UN who has no diplomatic
experience.

For publilc housing he offers a job to a man who's experience is based on
growing up poor. He might understand the need, but not how to fix it.

Trump campained he would pick the best people to help run the country, So far
he has been picking people who supported him and or helped him win. 

I guess we should expenct Trump to want people who support big business.

Turns out Carrier in Indiana isn't moving to Mexico after all. I understand the
state is giving Carrier incentives to stay, and of course Trump and his lacky VP
are claiming they did it. I doubt if we really find out what kind of deal Trump
made to get them to stay, but he had little power other than promises to leave
them alone.

I am very glad for Carriers workers who get to keep their jobs, but I hope the
cost wasn't too high.

GOP
They continue to plan for making changes according to the mandate they claim
to have. I hope they give Trumps appointments the consideration they deserve.

I wish they would change election laws so anyone could run for government office
instead of only rich or famous people. We need to have the government provide
money for those running for office. That way elected people wouldn't have to spend
all their time raising money, and taking bribes from rich people. They don't call it that
but it really is. That's one reason people voted for Trump. They felt he couldn't be
bought. I think they forgot about foreign countries buying him though. Besides
rich people are always wanting to add to their riches. They wouldn't be rich if they didn't

People have a habit of thinking people who make a lot of money are smart and very
intelligent. This may be true in some cases, but it doesn't mean they would be good
running a country.

My brother didn't listen to our father because he never had much money. But his
ideas lead to his own bankruptcy. Partly due to him not listening to our father. Just
because someone doesn't isn't rich doesn't mean they aren't intelligent. To me it
means they have other priorites in life. As long as they work hard and have considerization
for other people they are intelligent and good.

That goes for people in all political parties by the way.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 01, 2016, 12:37:47 pm
Trump
He is emplying he is turning over his business concerns to family, but what's to keep
Trump from passing information to his family to help those concerns.

It turns out that his VP paid Carrier $700,000.00 to stay in Indiana. One wonders why
it took him so loing to do that. I mean he could have done that soon after Carrier said
they planned to move. Some might say Trump threatened to cancel some governlmelnt
contracts for Carriers parent company, but I reeally  doubt they would believe that as
it would have cost many more jobs than saved if he did.

It's likely Trump and his VP the govenor of Indiana decided to use those workers as political
pawns to help Trump get elected. Since Gov Pense waited till after the election I doubt if
he would have tried to stop Carrier if Trump and he lost the election. Of course it's likely
we will never know.

Trump complained about Clinton wanting to help Wall Street.  Well seems Trump is turning
the cabinet into a gaing of billionairs club. Wonder what happened to his belief that we need
to get wall street out of government? Just more of his lies showing up I bet.

The more time passes Trump seems to be trying to make the USA after Putins Russia. Billionair
crooks and him running the country. Or wanting to get richer while they can.

GOP.. Will they put a stop to Trumps plans to grow richer at our countries expense?  I have
my doubts assomey of them are Billionair wana be's too.

I hope the Democrats get their act together so the public will have a choice in 2018, or many of
us may be in bread lines in a few years.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 02, 2016, 12:15:34 pm
Trump
Trump starts his thank you ralleys, or is he campaining for 2020?  People said when he
is elected the lies will stop, he will be presidentual.  I listened to it. He sounded like the old
Trump to me. Playing the crowd loving the cheers with his lies, and exaggerations.

More on Carrier,  seems he saved only 40% of the jobs. 60% are still going to Mexico even
though vp Pense gave Carrier 7 million dollars of state tax incentives to stay.  Carriers
corporate owner gave their CEO over 150 million in goodies  so I doubt if 7 million over 10 years is much of an incentive to the corporatioin which has 6 billion in federal contracts. Not counting Billions in profits last year alone. During the election Trump was blaiming the
government because giving tax breaks to business was a bad idea. Odd it became a good
one suddently. Or was it another one of Trumps campain lies?

By giving a big company money to keep workers here is a bad presidence as other companies
accross our nation can say. "Hey we can say we are moving and get tex breaks. Even if they
have no real plans to do so.

It is good that 40# of carriers workers here  in the USA will keep their jobs, but the other 60 percent will have to find nnw jobs., or hope to.

By the way Trump has added the CEO's of EXON Mobile to his list of possible Secretary of state. The CEO of EXON is a good friend of Putin, so the Russian connection thickens farther.

Trump claims Billionairs are the best smartest people in the world. Why? because they know
how to make money. Just because someone knows how to cheat, step on people, and lie
doesn't make them a good cabinet member, much less a president.  In my opinon anyway.

Trump still claims he won by a landslide. That's a laugh with him 2.6 million votes behind
Clinton in the popular vote. Trump hates this, so he does his best to divert attention away
from it.

GOP
The speaker of the house says he talks to Trump every day. Even though he bad mouthed
Trump before the election he is licking Trumps boots now. I do hope there are enough
people in congress to see Trump for what he is, and not go along with every crazy idea
he throws out. The man he is wanting to appoint as secretary of defense is a retired
military man. This is against the rules. He would need an exception to be eligible as
the military are not allowed to be cabinet members. This guy is even under probation
for lying to the FBI..

Democrats are still trying to figure out how to gain seats in legislatures across the
country. They need to listen to the people. They want good jobs and a decent life.
They seem to feel the Demcrats have failed and are turning to the GOP with hope
things will be better. Problem is many of the problems were created by the GOP. If
the public would educate them selves more they would know better. The social media is
a terrible place to look for the truth even though many think it's better than the news
media. Turns out the Russians fed much disinformation online during the election to
favor Trump.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 03, 2016, 12:13:37 pm
Trump
Wasn't it odd that Sarah Paylan started bad mouthing the GOP for paying Carrier
to stay. I guess Trump didn't give her a good government job. Could it be she wasn't
rich enough?

Trump loves his billionair friends.  Of course most people would love to be rich, and
tend to admire those who are. We should remember though. most Billionairs care
nothing for the common man.  They would throw food away in front of starving children.
They would destroy a forest rather than let people cut it for fire wood..  They only like
us when we have something they want.  Our hard work, and our money. We should
never, never let them run government. Where do you think Unions came from. People
got tired of being stepped on by the ultra rich.  I am sure Coal miners remember living
in company towns, having to buy from company stores. Givem credit so the worksers
had to stay.

I am not pushing for socialisim, people need incentives to work and grow, but getting
rich is like an addiction to drugs. The richer you are the more you want. Most times you
won't care who you hurt in the process.. So we need regulations and taxes to keep a
society healthy.  Other wise it will degrade into two classes. The rich and the poor.

Time will tell how Trump and his Billionair friends do, but we must keep them on a
short leash, or they will likely destroy our dreams.

GOP
They are mostly preparing to run the country as they think best.

Dem
They are still planning to stand their ground where they can, and work to gain
seats during in 2018 mid term election.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 04, 2016, 11:19:36 am
Trump
He continues to claim the media lies about him. I worry that if he can convince the
public to believe him over the major news media he will likely only use the office of
president to enrich his self and his rich friends, and who is going to pay for protecting
all his business interests and properties around the world?

He can say "Much of what I said in my campain was just talk, and wasn't meant to
be taken seriously. " But I imagine when the people get tired of waiting for all those
jobs and tire of his excuses. The truth will start revealing it's self.

Trump said he supports the oil pipeline that is being protested by the Sue Nation.
Apparently he or the congress doesn't care about the problems it might cause now
or in the future. Much less Indian treaties. (Money Rules)

On a lighter side. You think he will try to get the GOP to pay for a monument to his
greatness? Perhaps a nice big statue in front of the Capital building?  Or a bust added
to mount Rushmore?  This of course is silly, but you never know what Trump might
want.

GOP
They were ready to investigate Clinton over the next four years, about anything, but
now "Let's give Trump a chance, he just got elected."  Trump who has much to be
investigated. Even those he is appointing. It's time the GOP works for the truth
and not politics. They are hearing from the public to investigate Trump, but so
far they are making excuses not to.

Dem
They will try to push for hearings on Trump, but being in the minority they will have
a hard time. So the public must press the GOP even harder.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 05, 2016, 12:37:28 pm
Trump
He continues to talk to leaders around the world. Even to Taiwan wich was a NO NO
according to our agreement with mainland China. 

It's likely Trump is working out deals for his businesses around the world along with
his leadership conversations.. There are rumors his businesses are getting approvals
for permits he had been having problems getting prior to the election.



GOP
If the GOP isn't careful they will be tossed out in 2018. They are going to own any
thing they cause or do over the next 2 years, good or bad. Trump and his crowd
might be in for trouble without the GOP to protect them. So they best be careful too.
That mandate they claim to have is pretty slim if it esists at all.

Dem
Haven't heard much new. Just fretting about needing to win more elections. I hope
they get their act together. It won't be easy as the GOP has set up many congressional
districts across the nation to favor themselves.
I know the democrats haven't been working for the little guy as much as they
should, but I think the little guy will soon find the GOP makes a lot of empty
promises.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 06, 2016, 12:58:34 pm
Trump
His people continue to lie either by his orders or their own. They
said that OBama had been slower doing his transistion than Trump
has. Well Obama had his people picked by December 1, 2007. It's
December 6, and Trump is still deciding. I guess Trump can't
stand people thinking he isn't the best at everything.

Another lie by one of Trumps team was the cause of an attack on a
popular Pizza restaurant in DC. It was claimed the restaurant was involved
in gathering children for sex slaves by the Clintons. These kinds of disgusting
lies seems to be what can expect from the Trump team in the future.
Trump just says. "Could be, I don't know. All I know is what' I see on the
internet."  And this is to be our President?

Trump the Tweet master. He said on 60 minutes he was going to stop
tweeting, but so far he hasn't.. He apparently doesn't understand or
care that the world looks at every word he says. The most powerful office
in the world must have credibility. If our allies and enimies stop believing
our President it could lead to disaster. Other countries may start wars
or cause economic problems because of what they think Trump says or
means. No one man, no matter how smart can keep up with all the worlds
troubles and economics to make the correct or best decision without guidence.

So far he hasn't picked people that he can depend on to be honest. The kind of
people he has picked have their own agendas. They may or may not tell or give
Trump the best or correct information. One of his picks is and has spread lies
to make the Democrats and others look bad. Someone like this is dangerous to
our country, and Trump seems to think he is very smart. I fear he is smarter than
Trump.


GOP
Our friendly GOP legislatures are objecting to some of Trumps picks. Enough that
Trump has changed his mind for some. The latest news about the ACA (Obama care)
is the GOP is going to pass a bill that will get rid of it in 3 years. They know getting
rid of it in 2017 might cost them dearly in 2018 so they are putting it off till 2019.
"We will have a repacement by then" they say. They have no plans to,.It's noting to
but a way to hit and run from something they know will hurt them.

Truth be known the main reason they are againsts the ACA is because Obama got it
through congress. It's the same plan they had all the way back to president Nixon.
The ACA is nothing more than a marketplace for insurance companies. Along with
protections for those who have existing problems and to help subsidies premiums
for the poor. It's possible the GOP will come up with a new name for the ACA and
tell us how much better it is now that they have done it.

DEM
They hope to keep the worst of the GOP and Trumps plans at bay, but time will
tell..


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How I get most of my information. I watch MSNBC, and "Meet the
Press" on sunday mornings.

I know some of you feel the news media isn't always honest, but
I will say I haven't found msnbc misrepresenting anything. Also
if they do make a mistake they say so. There is fake news out
there and it all isn't on the internet alone.  Though msnbc leans to
the left. I haven't caught them in a lie yet, but do exaggerat a bit to
make a point sometimes. . The one thing I have noticed is they don't
try to make Trump or either party look good unless they earn it, and
they invite all politicians no matter
which side they are on.

Some of the other major media outlets do have commentators that do
exaggerate and lie to build their preferred audience, but I won't name
them. It's not my place to do so.

The following link is to msnbc's comments and news about Trump. If you
prefer a different source of information that of course is up to you. 

http://www.msnbc.com/topics/donald-trump (http://www.msnbc.com/topics/donald-trump)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 07, 2016, 12:58:44 pm
Gop and Trump are using corporate welfare when the free market and
trickle down economics failes to produce jobs or keep them in the country. Japanese industrialist plans 50 billion investment in US. Trump emplies
credit for it, but the plan has been in the works for months. Also much of the money is coming from Saudi Arabia apparently via Japan. Another rich guy that Trump looks at with much favor.

Some feel a business man will make a good president. That might be well in some
cases, but not the super rich.Money means too much to them. Exon and Russias Putin have worked together to drill for oil in the Gulf of Mexico.This is before
Trump was elected. Now Trump may appoint the Exon CEO for secretary of state.
With Trillons of Dollars at stake it's no wonder why the oil inndustry is against
climate worries. Another good reason to keep billionairs out of government.


The GOP  plans to put a wavier in a spending bill to make it possible for Trump
to appoint a favored retired General as sectretaray of defense even though he hasn't been retired long enough. The current law requires 7 years, but the general
only retired 3 years ago. What else does the GOP plan to tweak for Trumps benifit?

It appears the GOP isn't helping Trump keep some of his promises. Trump campained on requiring the Pharmasutical industry to negotiate prices on drugs
they sell to medicare. This would help lower the price of medicine. Senator
Sandors asked the Senate today to add this to a spending bill, but the GOP run
Senate said "No". I wonder if Trump will press the issue?  I will be surpised if he
does. The drug industry has much of the GOP bought and paid for. Probably some
democrats too.

Carrier's union exposes Trumps lie that over 1100 jobs were saved when it was
less than 740. Trump may not want American aircraft maker Boeing to build the
next Airforce One. If not it will have to be Airbus of france. Trump claims it's due
to price. Trump should be supporting american jobs, not those in other counties.
It's good to try to keep costs down, but with his lies it's hard to know what is true.

If your a political junkie like me, here is a good
place to keep up with politics online.
http://www.politico.com/ (http://www.politico.com/)
and of course all things political.
http://www.msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.com)

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 08, 2016, 12:15:33 pm
Trump
Well it seems our man Trump is anti union. The man who claims to be
for good jobs for americans.  Of course the GOP hasn't been a fan of
unions over the decades. Pushing for right to work laws. It sounds good, but
many business take advantage of their workers if they don't stand together.

Trump said it was the Unions fault Carrieer and other businesses move
outside the country. Trump said they didn't work hard enough. Sounds
like he is calling american workers Lazy. Doesn't it.

He said he would punish those businesses who move with high tarrifs, but
this will only cause problems. Higher prices for products, and trade wars. Our
country used to use Tarrifs to pay for the government, but this mainly punished
the lower class due to higher prices for all goods. So we went to an income tax
instead. This opened up the markets which helped our country to grow.

Trump thinks only the super rich are smart enough to run our country. That's
why he is appointing all those Billionaires.  He likes people who know how
to manage money and people. The military manages people so he has
appointed several retired generals too.. Time will tell how well our country
does under their control.


GOP
Nothing much new, they are just being political claiming they have a mandate
as usual. The Senate did vote a good service award for vice president Biden. He
served for over 30 years in the US legislature.   I think it was unanimous since it
didn't cost the GOP anything.

Dem
They continue planning and working to keep the GOP from destroying the
progressive rules and laws which have been passed over the years.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 09, 2016, 12:17:22 pm
Trump continues making his thank you ralleys, they are more like campain
stops to me. Perhaps he wants to keep his base stired up so they will support
his plans to make money for him and his friends.

He still claims his Billionaire friends are the smartest because they know
how to make money. Well government isn't all about making money.
There is concern for the publics health, security, and our environment.

He is appointing people who have a record of not caring about our
environment. Or health. He appointed a doctor to run public
housing. Why because the doctor grew up poor. That doesn't make
him a good manager of housing.

Seems Trump is giving jobs more as favors to those who supported
him than for ability. Knowing how to cheat, lie, and step on people
may make one rich, but it isn't likely they care enough to make
decisions for the good of the country. More likely it will be for their
own good.

Trump still plans to manage his business enterprises since the law
allows it. Even to produce a new version of the Aprintist. I suppose
as long as the GOP looks the other way he can break any rule or
constitutional rule of law he wants.

The moment he takes the oath of office it's likely he will be eligible to
be impeached by a responsible congress. Perhaps that's why he is still
campaining. To pressure congress to leave him alone, and do what
he wants.

GOP
Many in congress are making excuses for Trumps appointments. So it
will be interesting to see if they can pass them over the heads of the
democrats. Of course it's still over a month before the inauguration so
things could change.

Dem
Not much new other than talking about Trumps appointments. I think
they are going to try to make sure the GOP owns everything they
pass.  You can be sure the GOP will try to blaim any problems on
the democrats. If we remember. They tried to blaim Obama for
the recession even though it was GOP's lack of bank regulation
that created most of it.
 

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 10, 2016, 11:55:16 am
Trump gave Clinton heck for being tied to Wall Stret.
Now Trump puts Wall Street in his Cabinet. Trump continues
to prove he lied and is nothing but a money grubber.

Trump says "We will hire americans" Turns out one
of his businesses in Fla just requested 64 working
visa's for foreign workers. So they can hire them.
Isn't that innteresting. Trump tells you and me to
hire our fellow americans, but he hires foreigners to
save a dollar. Trump tells the public any lie he
thinks will make his supporters feel good.

People that knew Trump said he was a Con Artist, but
the voters wanted to believe Trump. I am sure Clinton
with all her faults would have ben 10 times better as
president than Trump. She is leading by 2.8 millon
popular votes. Trump still claims to have won with
a landslide and a mandate.

GOP
The GOP and Democrats were informed in September that
the Russians were trying to help Trump win the election
for president. Obama tried to get a bi partison report
for the public. But the GOP wanted to cover it up. So
Obama knew the GOP would claim it wasn't true and dicided
not to persue it. I feel this makes the GOP complicit in this crime
and should be ashamed of them selves. They are
not true patriots, but people who only care for their
self interests.

I am not sure it would have made much difference, but
the public had the right to know. I understand Trump is
claiming the CIA report is wrong. I wonder why he would
care as it won't change the election results. Perhaps he
knows the truth, and fears it will hurt him with his supporters.
If they found out he knew he was being helped by the Russians.

Dem
The democrats arn't perfect, but they usually don't
look us in the face and lie. They may tell half truths
and exaggerate, but not black lies that can be proved
as such almost instantly like Trump has and still does.
At least the Democrates try to help the disadvantaged.
The GOP promises Jobs that usually fail to pay enough to
live on, and work to help their rich friends.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 11, 2016, 12:25:00 pm
Trump
It seems Trump can't get away form being a showman as he continues to
do ralleys.  I think he should be trying to learn how to do the job instead of
trying to convince people he is number one.

He is still worrying over the Russian hacking reports. Is he worried that it might
make his election illegitimate? I doubt it would ever come to that. Though it is
possible he knew about it and hoped it would help him. I really think he would
be happy to accept their help. He asked the Russians to look for Clintons emails.
This was asking another government to break our laws. Now Trump is trying to
say it's all politics with no evidence. I doubt if Trump knows enough about the
internet to know or say what is possible.

Trump has been friendly in business with Russia for decades, so why not believe
he would have friends there that might help him.

Trump says "Lets be friends." when talking about other countries. Surely he isn't
that ignorant about world leaders and the ambitious nature of many of them. I
imagine many would stab us in the back if they had the chance.

Trump claims the man from Exon Oil is a great business man and knows leaders
around the world. As I have said government isn't about making money it's about
working to get along with others around the world. Talking about the things we
believe in. Human rights for people, womens rights. Would he talk to Russia or
China about hacking? I have my doubts the man or Trump cares about human
rights among other things we stand for.

GOP
The GOP claims they weren't hacked. Now I would be surprised if they are so
much better at keeping hackers out than anyone else. Though they deny it there
is evidence they were hacked. Besides if they truely weren't hacked. Was it to
help Trump? Seems odd the GOP would want to say it was one sided because it
does make it look like they had the Russians favor.

Well as I said before the election the GOP and Trump are wanting to get rid of
the right to have abortions for women. This of course is the wish of the GOP's
religious base. Without them the GOP would have a hard time getting elected. Some
of the GOP run states have been working to make it hard if not impossible for women
to get abortions or even contraceptives and reproductive health care.

People seem to forget that thousands of women, teenagers and adult both used to
die in the past getting illegal abortions. Some by doing it to them selves and dying
from bleeding to death or by an infection. This isn't just a physical choice, but a
mental decision women have to deal with. I think some get the idea these are
just people wanting to have fun and don't care about the one who is aborted.
It's a hard decision for any woman. Not a do it and forget thing at all.

To those women who think I couldn't know. They are right, I am just relating info I
have read about on the issue.

Dem
They are trying to keep Trump and his people honest, but their power to do so is
very limited. If the Democrats want to win they are going to have to show the
common man they care about them. Not just the upper middle class.

It's human nature to have comfort zones. People who work in factories and other
jobs that are going away due to automation and out sourcing have to be willing to
learn how to do new jobs. People in the GOP like Trump tell them they can keep
those jobs, but it's all lies. People like Trump feel all they have to do is tell the
public what they want to hear then later after elected say it was just generalizing
talk. Another thing is many good jobs don't require 4 years of college, all that is
needed is going to a Trade school. I think the Democrats should talk about Trade
schools and not just college.

We need people for all kinds of work, even jobs that get you cruddy. I used to come
home from work covered in dirt, my dad used to dig septic tanks out by hand. We
have machine to dig out septic tanks now, but good hard work is nothing to be ashamed
of..
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 12, 2016, 12:37:20 pm
I really don't have anything new. Trump plans to have a news conference on the
15th of December.  I hope it's not just a speech as he usually does when he
stands up in front of people.

I have heard him say. "I don't know", but when he does it's usually about something
no one really knows, or about some conspiracy theory. Sometimes I wonder if he is
suffering from some form of dementia. He seems to have trouble keeping on track. He
changes from day to day, even on the same subject. Many older people seem fine most
of the time, then loose track of what they are doing.  It would be possible his people
would cover up something like that. When your around someone all the time one
tends to  not notice things like that. Or if you do you don't want to think it's not as bad
as it is.  I think Reagan was having problems toward  the end of his second term. He
did die of Alzheimers desease a few years later. I had an aunt that died of it when she
was in her mid 60's.

More than one president has had medical issues they have hidden from the public. I
hope Trump is ok, but seems when he is really upset he starts snorting. I saw it in
all of the debates. It's like he has trouble breathing under stress.  The media ignored
it for some reason. Guess it's because Trump said his doctor reported he was in perfect
health. Well he never handed over the results of a  physical made by a disinterested
doctor. So unless he faints or staggers we may never really know.

Time will tell, but I think it should be a law that someone running for president sumit
them selves for a physical by a independant doctor. It's required to have a physical
every year or two to keep a pilots license current, and when you join the military. So
why not as president. A job that requires 24/7  365 days a year attention, someone
who could start a war because they couldn't handle stress.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 13, 2016, 01:13:42 pm
Trump
Clinton now leads Trump in the popular vote by almost 2.8 million votes. Trump says
it's due to illegal voters. No proof to show lying Trump is right.

Well he decided to postpone the news conference. Perhaps next month maybe?  It
seems he feels the public only needs to know what he wants to tell us. A news conference
might embarass him with unwanted questions perhaps. Trump always wants to control
his enviroment. No people that oppose his ideas, no minorities, at least those who might
ask why he fires black people because he doesn't like how they look. Fire women because
they arn't pretty enough to suit him.

He talks tough to a camera and supporters, but seems to be scared of anyone who
might not agree with him. I wonder how well he will stand up to foreign leaders.

He appears to have nothing but business on the brain. I understand when he talked
to the leader of Turkey he mentioned how much he liked the owners of some hotels
he was involved with there. Now it turns out the leader of Turkey has arrested those
people. Accusing them of being part of those who tried to take over the Turkish
government.. That same leader has been asking for an american naturalized citizen to
be returned to Turkey to face prison because he has opposed him in the past. The
Obama administration has refused to send the man back.

You suppose Trump will bend to the leader of Turkey's wishes to  get his friends out
of prison? To send this naturalized american citizen back to face prison or death, if
the leader there promises to free his hotel owner friends. Trump stands to make
millions if they are released.

This is only one thing our man Trump is involved with. Who knows how many
people Trump will sell out for a dollar. Perhaps none, but we may never know.

GOP
Our friendly GOP plans to reduce social security payments and medicare. There
are many people who barely get by as is. Do they care? Apparently they don't.
They don't want to raise taxes on their wealthy friends. We should watch to
see who votes to do this foul  deed, and vote them out in 2018.

Dem
Clinton lost the election by 80,000 votes over 3 states. So in reality the
democrats didn't loose by much. It seems there are 10 electors asking
to see the CIA report on Russian involvement in the election. I understand
there is omse rumors the GOP will have hearings on this issue, but some
are saying they see little proof. The Democrats need to  push the issue as
this is a bad deal. The government should be hopping mad over this, and
wanting to get to the bottom of it. Trump claims it's just a rumor by the
democrats. Who wants to believe a lier like Trump?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 14, 2016, 12:41:30 pm
Not much new other than talk about the Russia connection. I
have mentioned before.If something new comes up I will pass
it along.

Trump
Our man Trump does feel those who know how to make a lot of money
are very smart. I agree, they are smart when it comes to running a
business or corporation.

But running a business is like being a dictator, an emporor of your realm.
Government requires comprimise. Human rights are paramount. A man
or woman who has no experience in government will find it hard when
they find their commands are thrown back at them.Those in business
do have to make deals with customers, but in business you can walk
away from a problem if there is no profit in it.  Often those in government
can't walk away. If they do many people can be hurt.

Turns out Trump has put together a group of Billionairs, and retired
military generals to advise him. I think the Generals are probably the
smartist of the group. They know how to work with government and
people to get things done. Billionairs generally just bulldoze their
way to get what they want. If someone is hurt,  they don't care.

GOP
The speaker of the house is making plans to have several bils ready for
Trump to sign. He knows with both the house and senate in GOP hands
they can ram bills past the democrats with few problems. They expect
Trump will go along with everything they want. I think thats why they
are pretty much kissing Trumps feet over the past month.

I just hope we don't end up under those feet when they are done.

Dem
I hope the democrats can find a few from the GOP to put up a roadblock
against the GOP's express. The GOP has been saying "NO" and done such
little work over the past 6 years they have much they want to pass.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 15, 2016, 01:24:48 pm
Trump
He says we should get along with Russia. Perhaps it would look that way
to a billionaire business man, but not to the average person.

I know some of us here in the USA might not feel Russian involvement
in our elections is no big deal, or even care.

To those who may feel this way best wake up. Russia is about nationalisim,
and they don't care about human rights. They have been working over the
last several years to change Nato countries and other countries to disrupt
their elections. To move their governments to favor the Russian way of
doing things.

You will loose your rights to have guns, to have your own lifestyle, high
taxes. No religious or human rights. The Russian government my seem
efficient, most dictatorships look that way. Russia claims to have a
Parliamentary form  of  government, but Putin and his gang run the
country. He is committed to  make the world over to fit his idea of
running things and the people.

If you wish to live that way, just ignore him, he will see that you
do.


GOP
Some are taking this serious about the Russian connection, but some
are talking like it's no big deal or not something we need to really worry
about. It seems they don't want to oppose Trump who claims it's a
democratic rumor.

Dem
I hope they push hard for hearings on the Russian thing. Even
to create a bi Parisian commission on it to prevent Trump and his
gang from putting a iid on it when he takes office.

Time will tell. But we should watch, and let our congress know
how we feel.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Holt5 on December 15, 2016, 08:14:13 pm
Anyone have some links to what these Russian connections actually are?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 15, 2016, 08:24:44 pm
I know who the Russian spies are! It's Boris and Natasha!  :D  :D

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41760/1171768-boris_and_natasha_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 16, 2016, 11:06:49 am
Has the GOP of NC gone crazy?  Here is a story about the state lefislature removing
power from the newly elected Democrat governor.. Even with crowds of people
calling "Shame" from the gallery the GOP controlled legislature continues it's dirty
work. It wasn't long before the crowds were removed. The NC GOP has been guilty
of making it hard for minorities to vote, and setting up congressional districts to
favor white voters.

http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/north-carolina-gop-tries-strip-powers-governor-elect-n696576 (http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/north-carolina-gop-tries-strip-powers-governor-elect-n696576)


Anyone have some links to what these Russian connections actually are?

Here is the latest on the Russian Putin connection. The CIA and other government
agencys have evidence to show they were involved.

Trump has been claiming it's all democrats wanting to discredit his win. I don't
see how anyone could believe someone who lies half the time. If Trump doesn't
want to believe the CIA, who is he going to believe? His rich friends?  I hope not.

If the actual way they found out about Putins attack was revealed it would likely
comprimise future detection. So don't expect to hearor see that.

Here is a video link on the subject.. It's from www.MSNBC.com if you want to
read more about it. 

http://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/obama-vows-to-take-action-on-russia-for-election-hacks-834534979839 (http://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/obama-vows-to-take-action-on-russia-for-election-hacks-834534979839)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 16, 2016, 04:28:38 pm
Quote
If Trump doesn't want to believe the CIA, who is he going to believe? His rich friends?

Yes.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 17, 2016, 11:48:23 am
Trump
As much as our man Trump claims his election was a mandate, it will always
be tainted by Putins involvement in trying to help him win.

I think this is why Trump never wants to agree that Putin helped him. It would
discredit his election. It is discredited and history will paint Trumps victory
as such.

We must watch this man to see that he follows the constitution and the
people who voted. Not electorally but by the popular vote.

Trump has huge conflicts of interest to deal with. He owes millions in
foreign loans. Will he give favors to those banks who he owes money
to if they pressure him to do so?

GOP
Is the GOP kissing up to Trump to get his signature, or to do what's
best for the country?  So far it seems to be for Trumps favor. We
must hold the legislatures feet to the fire, let them know they will
be looking for another job if they continue to step on our country just
to make their rich friends richer.

They always make the claim."We are for jobs". Sure as long as the jobs
are cheap with no benefits. They don't work to help the common man
have a better life. They cut benifits to the poor and give the rich tax
breaks and welfare. Why? They say "Its for Jobs." The same old tired
line. If we continue voting for them more of us will be begging in the
streets.

Dem
If those who call themselves progressive don't get out and vote next
time the GOP will continue treating minorities, gays, and women like dirt.
Look at what Trump does to women and minorities. It's just the tip of
the iceberg. Look at NC. The GOP there said."The new governor has the state
mansion to live in what else should he want?"


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 18, 2016, 12:14:53 pm

The news has been under attack by Trump. Those who support him
and others have been posting news that are misleading or just plane lies.
Trump plays on peoples fears and needs to steer them to his way of thinking.
to say if your not for me your against me. He won't talk to a reporter, because
he wants to only make speeches. So people will only hear what he wants
them to hear. He doesn't want to explain why he says things. Much of what he
says is lies, so why would he wan 't to explain a lie?L

Many people listen to talk radio. Talk radio is a terrible place to get  news. Talk
radio works to buid an audience, not to tell the truth, and at best the only
part of the truth that pleases their audience. They are much like politicians.
who needs votes, instead of votes they need a big audience or they are off
the air.. Keep this in mind when you listen to them.

Actually I think Trump too a cue from talk radio. Tell them what they want to
hear, and they will follow you. What was the first thing he said? "Let's build a
wall to keep out the bad Mexicans." Many people felt here is a guy that can't
be bought and thinks like I do.  Turns out he can be bought, and only acts
like he thinks like his supporters do I think when he falls out of favor he will
crash. I hope he doesn't take us with him.


Trump
He finishes his last so called Thank you campain for the year.  I suppose
he has refueled what it takes to make him feel good about his self.  He
like most people in show business love adoring crowds. He says anything
to make them cheer. Even if it's a black lie. Later he claims it was just a
game to make people feel good. If so why believe anything he says?

The people need a presidend who is honest, not some kind of money grubbing
con artist.

Sorry if you don't like it, but he hasn't proved he is for anyone but the rich. After
all they are the smartist people on earth. They know how to make money. I guess
that's why he likds Putin. He is supposed to be the richest man on the planet. I
guess the fact he stole most of the money is imaterial to Trump.

Trump has appointed a jewish radical as our ambassador to Isreal
A man who wants all of old Palestine for the Jews.  If this happens
the middle est will explode.  I imagine any property with Trumps
name on it wil then be a target. Who will pay to protect them? and
do we want to risk american lives to protect his businesses?

GOP
Those of us who need medicare, and social security have few friends in congress.
they want to cut it. If not they might have to raise taxes on the rich. Heaven forbid.
Trump campained he wouldn't sign anything that would hurt social security, medicar,
medicade. Time will tell if he was being honest or not.

Dem
Many are saying they need to change, but what needs changing is rules that let
one party or the other have an advantage over the other. The GOP have set up
voting districts to favor white, non minority voters. Elections should not be
controled by either party. Untill we do the GOP and the far right will make gains
they don't deserve.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 19, 2016, 12:51:31 pm
It's Dec 19th and election day for the electors to vote. I am sure Trump will
get the 270 he needs. If not the GOP congress would give it to him anyway.

Trump
Our man Trump is in Florida working I think.. Anyway he says he is
having a working vacation after all his so called "Thank you ralleys" .

I probably won't have much to say till after Christmas. Our politicians make
sure they have their time off for holidays. They spend more time off than
working. I bet Trump let's his Lacky VP do most of the work after the new
wears off..

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 21, 2016, 12:26:11 pm
Trump
Well after all the bad mouthing Trump did toward Clinton about doing favors
for money. It appears Trump is playing the same game. He started a foundation
in Texas, and he promised photo ops with him  Only 1 million dollars a shot.

When this hit the news he made some quick changes.  Well I will say this to our
man Trump. He is going to have a hard time pulling this kind of stuff without it
being in the news. Even if he doesn't like it. He is going to find out that unlike
in business practices he can't cover up the dirt. There are a lot of people
watching his every move. That includes his family and friends.

That could be why he wants to discredit the press.

Many world leaders are watching Trump close, as they have no idea
what he really plans to do. Except perhaps Putin?  Who can say.

GOP
Some of the GOP are pushing for investigations about the Russian connection. I
hope it ends up being more serious than just show. Some are trying to make
light of it. Perhaps wanting to please Trump.

It would be good to have better relations with Russia, but we must stand up
for what we feel is right. Putin is working to disrupt the governments of Nato
countries. He knows Russia can't win an conventional war against the west, but
he might do it politically.

The GOP was asked about getting rid of the electorial system.  "Oh my no" they
say. "It's a part of our constitution, it protects states rights."  I have a hunch if the
election were reversed with Trump having almost 3 million popular votes over
Clinton and lost due to the electorial system they would be ready to see it go.

This is the second time in less than 20 years the GOP has won while loosing
the popular vote. So it's no wonder why they wouldn't want to change it.

Dem
They are still trying to decide how they are going to work with Trump and the
GOP. I am sure it would be tempting to do what the GOP did over the last 6
years, but they would just point a finger at the Democrats and say."It's their
fault why there are fewer jobs." Or what ever else went bad. I say let them
own the dirt they do, but they should try to protect the poor and disadvantaged
from ideas aimed to only help  the rich.

Democrats should be more outspoken. Many times they are called the
silent majority. Well it's time they started hollering, and voting. If they
had Trump would be in his tower pouting instead of being elected
president.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 22, 2016, 12:26:23 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is likely to get stuck in the swamp hisself if he isn't careful. He
was saying he would get rid of government corruption. Well if he doesn't get
rid of his business interests around the world he could become the most corrupt
president in history.

The last I heard he was planning for only having a half trust if there is such
a thing. If not I guess he plans to create one.

GOP
Well our friendly GOP in NC has turned it's back on the LBGT in that state after
promising to undo the law to keep them out of the bathrooms they need.

Now Senator Ted Cruz of Texas plans to introduce a bill restricting the rights
of Gays, Lesbians, and Transgend people over the whole country. He claims it
s to protect riligious rights.  Well he may actually believe his religion wants
him to  do this, but our country is supposed to have seperation between
church and state. Since I am sure some on the forum will be interested I
will try to keep track of how far this bill goes. Trump has already said he
would sign such a bill.. One mans religious rights can be religious bigotry
to another. I have a hunch womens abortion rights will soon be attacked as
well.

The supreme court could declare such laws unconstitutional, but right now there
are only 8 judges with a liberal/conservative even slpit. So a lower court decision
could end up standing if the court voted 4/4. Of course the GOP wants to pack
the court with conservatives. If they do such laws could end up being approved.

Dem
Hopefully the democrats can slow or stop unfair bills from becoming lawas.
Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 23, 2016, 12:11:27 pm
Trump
Our man Trump tweeted that we need to expand our nukes. We have
5000 atomic weopns now. We are currently doing upgrades to those
that are needed. Telling the world he wants more is going to s tart another
arms race. Ever since President Nixon we have been working to reduce
the number of atomic weopons in the world,  not increase them. Trump
shouldn't talk about things like this. I doubt if he even knows what he
is talking about. He should at least wait ill he is president to make such
comments..

I find it hard to understand why the government and or Obama doesn't tell
Trump to shut up. He isn't the president yet. Sure he won the election, but
he is still a private citizen till he takes office on the 20th of January.

We only have one President at a time. I can guarantee if Trump was the
current president, and a president elect started interfering in government
business he would be hopping mad about it.

It's Trumps business to get his cabinet and other appointments selected, but
that's as far as it should go. Making policy with other governments should be
illegal if not treasonous. I have a hunch if I personally was making a deal with
another country without permission  the FBI would be on my neck in no time.

I suppose Obama is doing his best to not turn the transistion into a fight with
Trump and the GOP, but with Trump trying to act like he is already president
with wierd tweets is making us look bad around the world.

GOP
Seems our friends in the legislature is bowing to Trump a lot. I imagine they will
have a stack of bills ready for him to sign on January 21st. At least they hope he
wil..

Dem
I understand some of Trumps supporters are beginning to wonder if they made a
mistake. I heard some say they figured Trump didn't mean some of waht he said
during the campain. Now they are afraid he meant it. 20 million people get health
insurance via the ACA (Obama care) When it goes people who have health
problems won't be able to get insurance. It's likely they will have to sell everything
and go on Medicade to get medical care.  Time will tell. But the GOP feels every
one should buy their own insurance, and if they can't afford it..Well. It's the Ebenezer
Scrooge bit. "If they die it will reduce the excess population."  The democrats will
try to stop it, but they are a couple votes short, so if they can't find 2 or 3 from the
GOP to help it's over.. Perhaps for a lot of poor people too..


I know there are a lot of good rich people, but seems the bad ones find a way
to take advantage of the rest of us. According to Trump only smart people are
rich. Well I can tell him that money isn't everything, and taking advantage of
the needy is isn't the kind of smart I want to be. Just because there isn't a law
on the books doesn't make something right But Trump and his friends apparently
think it does.. Trump said it was smart to not have to pay taxes on the money he
makes, but I bet he would be the first to holler help if he needed protection from
fire or the police. Services we who are not that smart pay for.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 24, 2016, 12:34:14 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is giving Obama a hard time for being on the golf course
so much. Strange for a man who owns several of them. I hope the media
gives Trump credit for all of his activities.

Trump plans to give Israel help in adding new settlements in areas captured
in past wars with the Palestinians. Trump wanted Obama to make a UN vote
allowing new settlements, but knowing how this would create more trouble we
voted against new settlements. 

Other wise I think all our friendly politicians are celebrating the holidays.
Many of them claim to be religious. I hope they show it by caring about the
poor, elderly, and others who are disadvantaged over the New Year.

Except Trump who will likely be tweeting every weird thought he comes
up with. He is probably counting up all the money he plans to make
while being president. I have a hunch by this time next year people
may be calling Trump the Grinch who stole their Christmas. Hopefully he
doesn't get us in a war as well.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 25, 2016, 12:42:13 pm
Trump was on "Meet the Press" this morning.. Perhaps he will make a
habit of having a discussion with the press .. We might not hear much
truth, but perhaps some unfiltered words from Trump.

There was some thoughts from the press that those Trump has picked
might balance each other out. Time will tell, but I kind of imagine we
will see Trump out making speeches pretty often. Probably not answering
many questions though.. 

That's all for now. Hope everyone is having a nice Chrismas today.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 26, 2016, 11:47:18 am
I don't have any thing new to say about politics today. I am
sure something will happen I can mention tomorrow.

Santa would probably have needed a trailer to carry all the
coal he would've given Trump for being a bad boy. Hopefully
next year he will deserve something better.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 27, 2016, 01:12:24 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is fussing at Obama because he said he  could have
won against him.. Trump needs to quit worrying about his image.
He has a country to think about, not to worry if people think
he is a winner or not.

Trump should keep his fingers out of government till he is president. This
business with Israel could blow up in his face, or blow up the middle east.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 28, 2016, 12:43:08 pm
Trump
There is serious concern that Trump may cause another arms race. Putin
did say he wanted to make their missles less vulnerable to anti missle
tech.. How successful the Russians are is hard to say. I have little or no
idea if they can make them so they can't be shot down. I think Putin is
thinking about in theater use of missils. Many missils are cruise now
days whcih are hard to detect and defend against.

With over 5000 atomic weopons we don't need more, just better ways to
deliver them. I think Putin feels much the same.

I hope Obama takes our missile system off of a hair trigger. Trump is so quick
to respond to insults he could start a war. I hope someone with a cool head
is looking over Trumps shoulder all the time.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 29, 2016, 12:30:39 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is up to his old tricks. At a impromto news
conference he claimed credit foe almost 8000 new jobs. Turns
out these are the same jobs that were in the news a few weeks
back.  Trump is playing games with the public trying to claim
credit for the same jobs more than once and pretending they
are additional jobs..

Besides 8000 jobs are great for the familys who get them, but
that is a very small number for a nation as large as ours. Obama
saved 1.5 million jobs when he helped the auto industry a few
years ago. Many millions of jobs have been created under Obama
,but he didn't stand up and brag about it every week or two.

I think we can expeect Trump to take credit for how well the
country is doing as long as ithe news is good, but I imagine he
will try to find a scape goat at the first sign of bad news. In fact
he already has claimed credit for some new numbers about the
economy, and he hasn't done anything but blow hot air.

I imagine we can expect Trump to be the biggest speech maker
in the history of the presidency. He loves to talk to a crowd. He
desires praise, the more the better. Just tell him he is smart or
a nice guy and he claims to be your friend.

GOP
I hope the public will hold our friendly legislators accountable
for how well they obey the constitution.  Somehow I think they
are going to break their oath of office when Trump takes office. It
is their responsibility to hold Trump accountable to breaking his oath
of office if and when he does.

Our only recourse is to vote them out in 2018 if they refuse to do their
job.  I wish the constitution required dismissial of any legislator for
breaking their oath of office. The way it is the congress has to vote to
do it. Kind of like having the fox guard the henhouse.  Of course
humans being who they are I doubt if a constitution that strict could
have been ratified in the first place.



Dem
Just hope they can keep the GOP from destroying the safety net the
poor, elderly, handicapped, and other who are disavantaged depend on.
Only time will tell. I think the GOP is under some kind of delusion that
the public wants them to do it.  If they do I imagine the GOP will find
themselves without a job in few years.

People haven't seen people starving and dying in the streets like they
did in the late 1920's and early 1930's. Farmers leaving land that was
nothing but dust. I hope we don't have to repeat it.

A democracy can only exsist if the people are willing to do their part.
Otherwise the country could fall into an autocracy like Germany had with
Hitler, or like Russia has with Putin. It's the easy way out. The public is
treated like children to be taken care of, and if one gets out of line they
slap them down or kill them. Works fine for those who don't mind handing
their life over to the state. You don't even have to think for your self.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 30, 2016, 01:07:52 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is still worried that his win will be discredited. He
is so narcissistic . One wonders if he doesn't stand and look at his
self in  a mirror. Loving his self, thinking he is so smart, and how
we should appreciate his greatness..

What he does when he is alone is fine as long as he understands  the
job of president and how it can affect the world when he makes offhand
comments.

He still wants to deny a proven fact the Russians tried to  help him win the
election.. As close as it was it's very possible they did.

I wonder if he will keep the sanctions on Russia, or will he forgive Putin
for what he did. In effect thank him for the win.

I think better relations with Russia would be great, but we can't give up our
principles in doing so. Putin would have the world in his image. Authoritarian
leaders around the world. It's true one man leaderships of governments can
be more efficient, but hardly ever fair to the population of a country

GOP
I understand some in congress and the senate don't have the same warm feelings
toward Putin as Trump does. So he may have a bit of trouble making nice with
Putin over the objections of congress.. Especially with the computer hacking Russia
did.

Dem
I imagine the Democrats will join the GOP in punishing Russia over the hacking.

.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 31, 2016, 01:11:12 pm
I guess all the politicans are out partying so nothing new for
today.


I wish the news media would headline. "Why does Trump lie about...? "
this or that. That way it would plant the question for people to think
about. As is peple just ignore  the report of a lie as a bash at Trump..

It might even work on Trumps mind where he would have to come up
with a reason. As is it he just bad mouths the press. It's harder to justify
a lie than to just call a press report a lie.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 01, 2017, 01:20:20 pm
Not much to tell. "Meet the Press" was about how the main media
covered Trump over the campain, and since the election.

The one thing they failed to mention was how the media competes
to get the news out first. This competitions colors the reporting. They
are more likely to say what gets attention in Headlines.  Working to
get at the truth is pushed back in favor of sensationalize.  Trump
knows this and uses it to manipulate the press.

Trump is still trying to divert attention away from Russia's hacking. Trumps
Russia connection is still in question. He is still defending Putin.  I think we
should know why he is. Is it business, or is he only worried about war with
Russia?

War wise I think we have more to worry with North Korea than Russia. An
engagement with Korea would likely drag China into the fray.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 03, 2017, 12:51:00 pm
Trump gets approval to build a new hotel, golf course in
Indonesia since he was elected.

Trump had a big new years party in Florida in a private
club. Members paid $500.00 to be there. With 800
attending he netted $400,000.00 for the night. Odd
thing is he complained about Clinton making big money
making a speech. I don't see this being any different.
Trump is using his position as president elect to
make a lot of money as Clinton did.

Trump called Putin smart for waiting for him to
be president. Not Treason, but likely broke the Logan
act by communitcating with a forign government in a
way that affects the policy of our government.

He has been stepping on Obama's toes ever since he
won the election. I imagine the reason Obama hasn't
been making a big deal out of it trying to avoid a
fight with the GOP and Trump during the transistion.

GOP
independant ethics investigation commitee shut down by the
new GOP.. They want to investigate them selves. and
this way they can keep it from the public eye.

The "Just say no" crowd in congress has been making
plans to produce many bills ready for Trump to sign.
I think there will be a lot of suffering for the
disadvantaged, and less taxes for the rich.

A $200.00 reduction for someone barely making enough
to live on. $25,000.00 reduction or more for someone
who would see $200.00 as pocket change.

Remember that when you vote next tiem.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 04, 2017, 12:06:49 pm
This is a bit long, but I thought I would add a bit about jobs, and what people
will need in the future. Things the GOP and Trump don't seem to be concerned
about. Our politicians have a bad habit of leaving the future to those in
the future. After all they want credit for what they do now..

The world is changing and jobs are moving from manufacturing to high tech. Those
who can't or won't move with it will fall behind. Big corporations around the world are
moving their factories to poor third world countries. Even those are becoming more
automated to cut costs.

Trump and the politicians can promise all they want, but the days of factory career
jobs are becoming a thing of the past. Most jobs are showing up in the service
industry. Auto repair, resturants, cleaning, building, plumbing, ect.  Some of
these jobs can be a career job with a pension, but not very many. Many service
industry jobs don't pay much more than minimum wage.

With the advent of the internet and now smart phones, many people are making
extra money selling services, and objects online. Problem is people are going to find
out when they get sick, injured, handicapped or old. They are going to be hard
up for money to pay for food, rent, doctor, ect.

Also this same transformation is making a small percentage of the population
extremely rich. This is dividing the country into the haves and have not's. I know
the GOP and Trump don't like redistribution of wealth, but if we don't a
disaster is waiting to happen. I don't think any of us like taxes.. How can we call a
country great if in the future the streets are filled with beggars and the sick. Robots
doing work that the average person depended on for a living.

It's time the government moves to see that all our people have at least enough
to live on, sutable housing, and the health care and medicine they need. We educate
people through high school. Why not college, or at least trade schools. If a person
wishes to go on to a higher level on their own. Fine. But we need engineers, mechanical
and electrical. Cyber techs are in high demand now, and more will be needed in the
future.

The GOP is living in the past, and they are ignoring the majority of the population about
social issues. I am not for full socializim, but if we don't accept a degree of it there
will be many suffering and dieing in the future. We have many in that position now.
We shouldn't give a free ride to those who can work. That would do more harm than
good. If a person gets aid, see they do something for it. Even if it's just sitting in a
office chair 8 hours a day. I think most would rather be doing something. Food aid
should be for food people need, not easy to fix food unless they are handicapped.

The public doesn't like to see a healthy person living off the government doing
nothing, living as well or better than they are. It's good to help, but those who
are helped should be willing to help themselves.

The GOP points to the lazy bums when they want to take food from the mouths
of the needy. Instead they should be changing how they are helped.

The GOP found that getting rid of the independant ethics commitee was a bad idea when they got thousands of phone calls from the public telling them to leave the committee alone. Trump jumped on the bandwagon tellhing the GOP to work on better things. Could be the mandate they claim to have isn't as strong as they act like it is. They lost seats in the Congress and the Senate and even though Trump won he still lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes.

Trump  continues to  take credit for jobs saved due to 
Ford not moving to Mexico. Keeping 700 Jobs here in the
country. Turns out Ford had decided to stay sometime ago
due to falling sales of small cars over the past 2 years.  The hybrid cars they plan to build is part of a program Obama worked with Ford about.  As usual Trump tries to grab the spotlight. He would likely claim credit for the sun rising in the morning if he thought it would benifit him.

Trump made the tweet that he was going to have to wait till friday to meet with the intelligence people. Like they were putting him off. The meeting was set for friday in the first place. Trump seems to be still trying to discredit them. He is going to need these people in the future. So he best play nice with them.

The only credible jobs Trump can claim is 800. Though he
is trying to claim 8000.. A very small number so far for the nation, though any jobs saved it good news..

Our man Trump loves using Twitter. If he continues doing so as president. Wouldn't it create a security risk if someone was to hack Trumps twitter account? They could fake a Trump tweet about anything. It could embarass Trump or cause a crisis with a insult to a foriegn leader. He should forget about Twitter as president.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 05, 2017, 11:32:19 am
Trump plans to revamp government inteligence, apparently
fewer people to do the job. With the terrorist threats, and
other dangers we face. Seems irresponsible to me.

Seems the only people Trump credits for being smart are those who
are extremely rich. Perhaps that's why he likes Russias Putin. He is one
of the richest men in the world. I guess getting rich by theft is smart
too, for Putin at least. Oddly enough Putin called  Trump a clown when he
was running for the nomination. I guess if your rich enough Trump doesn't
mind what you say about him...

He continues running down the national media as if only he
tells the truth, and everyone else lies. I see no reason to
believe much of anything he says.

GOP
Starts committee reviews of Trumps cabinet picks.
The GOP leader of the senate had the gall to say the public wouldn't stand for
delays to pick a new judge for the supreme court. After he and others in the GOP refused to even give hearings much less vote on Obamas supreme court
nomination last year. I think some politicians actually believe the public is
totally stupid at times. I hope the public tosses some of them
out of office next time.

Dem
They plan to stand against cuts to social security, medicare, ACA, VA, and
medicade.  Also against any right leaning pick for a supreme court judge.
The democrats already have rallies planned in several states to inform
the public about what Trump and the GOP plan to do. No doubt the
GOP and Trump will counter, but they won't have Obama to blaime this
time.

Grass roots groups are showing up across the country. A large
number of anti Trump people plan to show up in Washington DC on the 21st
of January. I will try to pass along any links to sites
with more information on this, and other demonstrations.

These groups are planning to let Trump and the GOP know how they feel about
their plans to undo social gains since the 1950's. There is a chance the GOP
will get some of the same medicine the Tea Party gave the democrats a few
years back.  Trump may find out the swamp his supporters wanted him to drain
includes many of his friends. I kind of feel the only people he wanted to get rid
of was those who didn't support or agree with him.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Varg the wanderer on January 05, 2017, 06:44:53 pm
Dem
They plan to stand against cuts to social security, medicare, ACA, VA, and
medicade.  Also against any right leaning pick for a supreme court judge.
The democrats already have rallies planned in several states to inform
the public about what Trump and the GOP plan to do. No doubt the
GOP and Trump will counter, but they won't have Obama to blaime this
time.

Grass roots groups are showing up across the country. A large
number of anti Trump people plan to show up in Washington DC on the 21st
of January. I will try to pass along any links to sites
with more information on this, and other demonstrations.

These groups are planning to let Trump and the GOP know how they feel about
their plans to undo social gains since the 1950's. There is a chance the GOP
will get some of the same medicine the Tea Party gave the democrats a few
years back.  Trump may find out the swamp his supporters wanted him to drain
includes many of his friends. I kind of feel the only people he wanted to get rid
of was those who didn't support or agree with him.

I am not happy about a lot of Trump's viewpoints on things, but I think it would be worth noting that the ACA NEEDS to change. The way it is currently written it only increases the cost of health care of those that work... to the point where it is expensive regardless if you have private insurance, government insurance, or no insurance. The only winners here are the insurance companies. I think the act should be gutted, while retaining the mandate that insurance companies insure those with per-existing medical conditions.

Social Security is a by-the-book Ponsi Scheme. The only way it stays afloat is that more people are paying into it than are withdrawing. Many people my age (myself included) have accepted the fact that we will never see a dime of it when we retire, and are getting pretty sore about having to support people knowing there will be no support for us. Social Security needs to be transitioned into a mandatory retirement savings account or some other form of investment so that there is no longer a can to kick to the next generation. In your post above you covered some things I thing should be looked into. If both parties are willing to actually take a look and make some sustainable changes without immediately denouncing the idea simply because of who said it they might actually do some good.

As for college: All is well, but rather than pumping money into subsidizing undergraduate student loans (which people by and large use to get degrees that will have little use in employment), take that money and use it towards putting people through graduate school. We need more doctors and researchers and pharmacists. These are expensive degrees to get, and currently these people have no help in education costs, all while the public screams about them being paid too much. How about we focus money where we want more people to be.

Also, there is a lot of evidence that George Soros is funding these so called "grass roots" protests. Which makes me wonder: Where were these protests when Obama was re-elected? The election is supposed to be the people's voice. Why then are people protesting and rioting over what the majority of their fellow citizens chose? I'm not saying they should be happy about it. In fact I think they are justified in being upset, but what do they expect a protest to do after the election?

There is a funny pattern I've noticed in Congress: Whenever Democrats have something they want passed, they preach about bipartisanship and make promises of compromise, etc... Yet when the republicans want to pass something in the same way it is met with a firm "Over my dead body" and any compromise won't even be considered. Party opinions and platform aside I have to say this seems a bit childish, much akin to (but going on much longer than) the NC GOP members undermining the Governor's power.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 06, 2017, 12:43:36 pm
Yes the ACA does need to be fixed, but all the GOP wants is to do away with it
instead. The big reason premiums have jumped is due to not enough young
people on the program. Another thing the ACA was a plan the GOP supported till
Obama touched it. If they do get rid of it, tens of thousands of jobs will be lost, not
counting hospitals going under due to people not able to pay for insurance or even
get it. Then of course many more people dieing.

Our man Trump was asked about news people Putin had killed. Trump responded saying people are killed here as well. Is he emplying it's ok for Putin to kill news people? What
connnection does Putin have with Trump? Putin claims Trump win is a victory for Russia. Perhaps Putin has promised Trump hotels all over Russia.

I did hear on msnbc that Trump has been selling high priced
real estate to Russian oligarchs. Some going for 100 million
dollars each. I think that would be a good incentive to be friendly with Putin. Imagine the fees Trump gets from a sale like that. I believe the fees run at least 5 percent. I
can't say that's why Trump is nice to Putin, but it's a good bet.

Anyone see the National Inquirer funny paper lately? it has been running rediculous political stories since last spring.Trump is claiming the paper is respectable, and people should believe it. No thinking person  takes that paper seriously.

GOP
The GOP is planning to run hearings for nearly all of Trumps cabinet picks on one day. The same day Trump is planning to have a news conference. It's likely all this is being
run at the same time to keep the national media busy. Since it's Trumps first press confernece in six months the media will likely use for headlines while congress gets away with raming Trumps picks past the democrats. I am sure they hope this will keep more of the hearings out of the major news. Makes one wonder if the GOP thinks they have such a mandate why are they bing so sneaky about what they are doing? Why be in such a hurry? Are they afraid the public will keep some of the GOP members from following the leadership?

To me it proves the DC swamp is still full of crooked politicians.

Former CIA director quits Trumps transistion team. That is rather
interesting. He said he didn't have anything to do so why stay.

Dem
I think the democrats can say. If your one of the tens of thousands who lost their job when Obama care was removed. Ask the GOP. We tried to keep it. The democrats should be able to do a lot of finger pointing. The GOP won't have Obama to point at any more.
Perhaps they will fix it if enough people complain. Then they could call it Trump Care.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 07, 2017, 10:56:59 am
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Trump
Our man Trump continues to lie. He can't stand the fact the
Russian hacking appears to discredit his election. Trumps
image is so important to him he will say anything and lie.
Seems to me lying would make a person look bad. So if he
cares about his image he should start being honest with the
public. If he continues as is he will leave office in disgrace.
Then he can lie to his self, and friends for the rest of his
life.

Also he claims to support the military. He should remember when
he discredits those in inteligence. Many are the same people.

GOP
It seems the GOP is running a race to pass bills, and approve
Trumps appointmens. Perhaps they are afraid the public will try
to stop them by changing the mind of some members of the congress
and Senate.

Seems strange the legislatures would be afraid to hear from
those who elected them. One of the above links leads to a web
page that tells how to properly contact your elected congressman or senator. I think they need to be reminded of who put them in office..

Will the GOP hold Trump accountable if he breaks his oath of office?  Trump has
many business interests around the world. What if he put them above our country?
I heard on Msnbc he is involved with the Mob. Trump claims it's part of doing
business.. Will the GOP investigate Trump or will the GOP allow Trump to do
anything as long as he signs on to the their anti social ideas. I think it's time
we hold our legislature accountable for not doing the job they were elected to
do.

I am sure the GOP is hearing from people who had big jumps in Premiums with
the ACA, but if they have a pre exsiting condition any coverage they might get
without the ACA will cost them dearly. Not counting returning to life time limits on
coverage. People should be telling the GOP to fix it not get rid of it. The GOP should
tell the truth about the ACA, not play politics with it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 08, 2017, 12:57:07 pm
Trump
Our man Trump continues to discredit the briefing on Russian hacking. Trump says
the hack didn't help him win, but he sure liked to use wikileaks which was fed by Putin
ordered hacks against Clinton. If the hacking didn't help him win then why did he use
that information in his campain? He said the RNC didn't get hacked.. The brief shows
they were hacked. But the information wasn't made public.

The GOP seems to be tip toeing around when talking about the Russian hacking. They
seem to be afraid to say anything really bad about Trump. Trump still refuses to single
out Russia on the hacking. Here is a link to the unclassified version of the brief.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/06/us/politics/document-russia-hacking-report-intelligence-agencies.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/06/us/politics/document-russia-hacking-report-intelligence-agencies.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article)

The GOP seems to be fast tracking Cabinet appointments even though they haven't recieved
the needed papers from those who were appointed. The ethics committee is raising issues
on this. The GOP is currently ignoring it.

A GOP leader is saying it's all politics, and that Obama's people were installed quickly in 2009.
I doubt if they would have unless all the "I" s were dotted and "T"s crossed first at the time.

Some supporters of Trump are still saying "Who Cares if the Russians helped. as long as Clinton
lost."  I wonder if those people are looking at facts or want to believe Trumps lies? I did a lot
of checking and Trump is much worse for the country than Clinton would  have been. Almost
everything was conspiracy theories, with little or no facts to support them. I don't doubt that the
Clintons have a few skeletons in their closet, but you probably would be buried with them if you
opened one of Trumps. He was hiding everything he could, and still is.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 09, 2017, 01:25:16 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is supposed to have a news conference this week. Time will tell as he has
avoided to have any for months.. Perhaps it's because he isn't good on his feet. Some people
have trouble answering questions or making speeches without a script.

Trump has stuck his foot in his mouth more than once when talking to the media.  That's one
reaon they put a teleprompter in front of Trump during his campain speeches.

GOP
Just working to get what they want. Doing all they can to reduce government, cut taxes on
the rich, even if it hurts the disadvantaged..

Dem
Still working to delay the GOP and working to improve their image.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 10, 2017, 12:56:14 pm
Trump
Our man Trump has hired his son n law to be a major adviser in the white house. Even
though it's against the law to give government jobs to relatives.  Seems Trumps
lawyers feel they have found a loop hole. I think it's saying the white house isn't
really a government agency. Seems pretty iffy to me.

Trump and his rich gang are having lots of problems getting rid of all those conflics
of interest they will likely have after Trump takes office. Time will tell if the GOP has
the guts to hold them accountable or not.

GOP
Run dog run, you cought it, now what? The GOP have control to rid the country of the
terrible Obamacare, so they are having trouble finding a politically safe way to do it. Now
that they know millions of people (voters) will likely loose their health coverage. When
Obama was in the white house they could pass bills to get rid of it knowing Obama would
save them with a veto. Now they will own the trouble they may create.

Dem
They are using the same delaying proceedures the GOP used when the Dem had control. For
some reason the GOP is complaining. LOL ..  Last I heard the Senate was still working after
midnight. They may be working 24/7 . I wonder if the GOP who did little but complain over
the past 6 years will be willing to put in the time.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 13, 2017, 01:00:42 pm
It's been a few days. Trump had a news conference. The GOP have
started the process to take affordable health insurance from the
people. They say they will replace it with something better, but
after 7 years of complaining they don't have any plans they can
pass through congress.  Trump says it will be replaced almost
immediately, but government doesn't work that way except with
a dictator.

I know the insurance rates have gone up, and people blame it on
the ACA. At least the GOP does. I imagine when it's gone, people
will find out how much it really costs to have insurance that has no
lifetime payout limit or to cover existing health problems. A friend
of mine had to pay $750.00 a month to even get coverage due to a
heart problem. I was paying $40.00 a month for full major medical
at the same time. Now I hear it costs $1500.00 a month for coverage
through the ACA with health problems., and who knows what it will be
without the ACA with exsisting health problems. If they can get it at all.
Unlike the ACA there won't be any government subsities to help pay the
cost of the premiums. The GOP wants to give it to the Rich in tax breaks
instead.

We should move to a single payer system for all americans, but the GOP
would rather commit suicide than pass that. Even though it would solve
helalth coverage for everybody. Granted our taxes would go up, but I
don't think it would cost any more than most  insurance does now for  a
healthy person. Then if you lost your job you could still go to the doctor
or hospital without going bankrupt.

But money talks so it's not likely to happen in the near future.

People voted for Trump because he appeared to be an outsider, but
the big reason there is corruption in government is due to billionairs
like Trump. They don't care for the man/woman on the street. Oh
they make jobs. Then pay as little as possible for them.

Billionairs are responsible for high drug costs, High insurance rates.
High prices for fuel, electricity, and other things people need.

I am all for free interprise, and capitalisim, but it has to be
regulated. Otherwise the rich will stop at nothing to make a
dollar.  Even if it kills people.

They have control of people in government because it costs millions
to get elected these days. We should move to a government pay system
to keep the rich out of the loop. Untill then we will have corruption, no
matter what Trump or any politican says. 

I had a friend who was the cheif of the local fire department. He told me
a salesman tried to give him a bribe to get him to buy a firetruck he was
selling. So you can see how deep corruption can go if we can't put good
people in office. As is most good people can't afford it, and if they take
money from people they will expact payback.

Trump was supposted to be immune, but look at the people he has hired
Billionairs like Trump who made it rich by taking advantage of others.  They
say if it's not against the law it's okay to do. Just because there isn't a law
doesn't make it right, but they think it does. He also has lots of business
interests around the world. So he is not immune from corruption. He will
likely go for money over the country. He hides his tax returns and business
interests. So  it will be hard to catch him. I think thats why he is running
down the media. They can show the people who he really is.

He said he turned down a 2 billion dollar deal, but I bet he would never give
out the details. So it is most likely a lie. We can only guess why he defends
Putin at every turn. Sure it would be great to have good relations with Russia,
but not at the expense of our principles or allies.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 14, 2017, 11:12:06 am
Trump
Our man Trump stated in his press conference he wasn't going to
do business while president. He would turn it over to his son. Trump said it would cost him and family too much money. Now isn't thata too bad. It's likely he will be asking our military personel to risk and perhaps give up their lives, and Trump doesn't want to risk some of his money.. He could resign if he doesn't want to do that. I think it's shameful of Trump to act this way.

GOP
The congressional ethics committee is threatening the Government ethics office for what they said about Trump. Now isn't that
interesting that the GOP is defending Trump. It doesn't surprise me. Professionals, and partican polititicans look out for each other. They have no business checking each other for bad practice. It's like letting a fox guard a henhouse. They don't want to make each other look bad, much less get themselves in trouble.

I think the justist department can investigate wrong doings, but even then they are often partican. If Trumps pick for atterney general is approved. Will he support our constitution or his own beliefs? How much vigor will he have to protect voting laws, Minorites, women, and gays? I fear he will do little to do so.

The GOP senate intelligence committee is finally decideing to investigate the Russian hacking, and syber activity. They didn't really want too though. I wonder how hard they investigate the hacking to favor Trump? It will be interesting to see how much we the public find out.

The GOP had been complaining about Cubans getting special immigrint treatment. Now Obama removed this privalige, and now the GOP is complaining becasue he did what they had been wanting. Obama is only giving Trump some work to do. Once Trump takes office he will be accountable for what happens when he changes what Obama has tried to do over the past 8 years.

Dem
Congressman John Lewis said today that he feels Trump's election is not legitimate due to  the Russian involvement. This is a strong statement by a well respected man. I am sure the GOP will ignore it. He isn't asking for new election.. Also Congressional Democrates are agravated because the FBI gave Trump favor over Clinton. There was a ongoing investigation of Trump before the election and that wasn't mentioned. Why? Because they don't talk about investigations. But they did talk about Clintons. It  could have been a favor to help the GOP, but we may never know.


I hope any stink caused by Trump and the GOP will get strong enough they can't cover it up. Though they will try as politicans usually do. Trump couldn't stand it so he responded to  congressman Lewis comments about him with a disrespectful tweet.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 15, 2017, 11:57:07 am
Trump
Isn't interesting that Trump complains because people think Russia helped him get elected,
it was ok when he called Obama  illegitimate for 6 years. He is going to have to live with
it wither he likes it or not. If he wants respect, then become a honerable man, and stop
lying at the drop of a hat.

He continues to belittle the media and now he is moving the media outside the white house
for briefings. He claims the room that has been used is too small. It wasn't for previous
presidents, This makes it look like he is afraid to have the press too close. Or is he making
room for partisan news people to help support his nonsense.

I noticed "Saturday Nite Live" is still running skits about Trump. Perhaps it will thicken
Trumps skin over time, but I doubt it.

Some say it's just a new normal. Well much of what is called normal has been created
over many years for good reason. The normal worked well for President Reagan. So why
not Trump.

Trump scolded Congressman Lewis , said he should work and quit talking. The congressman
has done much to help his district. Not to help his self, but those who elected him. Trump only
hurts his self by running down a good man.

GOP
They continue to  say. "You lost live with it." I am over the loss, I just want the GOP to
do the job they were elected to do, and stand by the oath they take to support the
constitution of the country. Are they going to look the other way if Trump breaks his oath of
office? If they do we should hold them accountable. Politics should be set aside when the
constitution isn't being followed.

Dem
Congressman Lewis said he would have a hard time supporting Trump. Many in government
support Congressman Lewis and his statements. Though many in the GOP complain that the
congressman is being partisan, and should accept Trumps presidency.


It's sad, but people haven't changed since the countries founding. They still think of themselves
first. It's  human nature, but at least there are some who do think of the country first. I hope
they are able to prevail. A democracy can only last if the people work to keep it. Letting others
do all the work will lead to corruption. People who have been in office for years tend to start
working to stay in office instead of doing their job. We need new people who want to make the
country better for all, not for themselves. Trump claims he wants to make the country
better, but I think it's all about how much money he can make while being president. Directly
or indirectly. Time will tell, but he will do his best to hide it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 16, 2017, 11:40:12 am
It's a big week in Washington DC. I am sure our man Trump will
have a big speech for all his supporters. He gave a 89 year old
man the boot who had spoken at all inauguration since Eisenhower.
Trump gave the job to a supporter instead.

So a local TV station is putting him on TV to anchor their coverage.

Trump seems to think nothing is sacred.

They are predicting the better part of 1 million people to watch Trumps
 inauguration and parade. I wonder how many art just going to see the
parade.  It's Trumps big day. So you can be sure he and the GOP want
to make a big deal out of it.

The next day there is a big event that women are holding in Washington DC.
They are there to show their disapproval of TRump and the GOPs plans. At
last count there were 1200 bus parking permits issued.  So it should have
quite a gathering on the 21st. I wonder if our shiny new president will notice?
I am not sure how welcome he would be at the gathering, but I am sure he
best keep his big hands to hisself.

I understand there were many groups out yesterday on the 15th showing their
disapproval of the GOP's plans to get rid of the ACA.  At last count over 3000
local groups across the USA, who are currently notifiying their congressmen and
senators to keep  the ACA, and other programs that the people need.

The GOP say they will replace it, but so far they have no plan ready, much less
working on one to replace the ACA. Trump says he wants it rplaced, but will he
deny the GOP their goal untill they have a replacement? Only time will tell.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 17, 2017, 12:18:23 pm
Trump
It seems our man Trump is wanting his new job to be 9 to 5, monday
thorugh fraiday affair.  He plans to take off the weekend waiting till monday
to do anything at all. Perhaps he expects his VP lacky to watch the store
while he tends to personal business.

GOP
Seems our congressional GOP members were a bit overwhelmed over the
weekend as many people showed up asking them to not get rid of the ACA
and other things they plan to change. One Colorado member escaped out
the back door when he tired of meeting his voters. 

I kind of imagine this is just the beginning if they continue only helping
their rich friends.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 18, 2017, 12:29:57 pm
Trump
Our man Trump was defended by Russias Putin.  Makes one wonder
why he might be worried about Trumps credibility. I understand Obama
has moved a lot of troops to Poland and Norway. Seems Putin doesn't
like this at all. Now why do you think Putin would not like american troops
in boarder countries?  Would be he has a plan to invade them after causing
instability in those countries government?  To protect Russian people I
suppose. Perhaps Putin thinks Trump will pull those troops out, and if
he doesn't? Could be Putin plans to blackmail Trump so he will.

Putin has used blackmail to get what he wanted in the past. What if
Trump had a friendly party while there last time. It is a fact that Putin
has cameras and recording equipment in all hotels and many other
buildings.  I remember many years ago our diplomats discovered
cameras and listening devices in the American embassy the soviets
built for us. Putin was in the soviet KGB so he knows all about spying
on people. So it's very possible Putin has something that Trump wants
kept quiet, no matter what.

I fear we will have a president who will sell our allies out to protect some
dirty little secret Russia has on him. Only time will tell.

GOP
Will the GOP hold Trump accountable?  I think as long as his supporters
like what Trump is doing they will look the other way. At least most will.

The GOP is considering a healt plan that would give those who have
pre-existing contidiions a way to have insurance. Only thing it would be
a plan for high risk people with high premiums and limits on how much it
would pay. They did mention they might enclude subsidies to help with
the cost. They should tell the voters this plan was tried once before, and
failed because the small states couldn't afford it, and with low lifetime limits
it's not much of a health plan anyway.

Dem
I hope the Democrats can get their act together so they can hold the
GOP accountable. If not it's up to the people in the end.

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Some people may feel this business between Trump and Putin is no big
deal for the USA. Might be innocent, but if we allow Putin to invade our
allies in eastern Europe it could lead to full scale war. I fear once Putin
moves his troops in it will take war to get rid of them. Some might say
give  Putin those small countries, they aren't worth going to war over.
Perhaps  not ,but where does it stop? People have let agressors have
their way in  the past and it always leads to domination by the agressor
or war.  Authoritarians like Putin only respect strength, just like any bully
does.

Facing world distruction perhaps we should let people like Putin have
their way. After all living under a dictator might not be too bad. If you
could call it living, I doubt if many would. :P
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 19, 2017, 12:21:19 pm
Trump
At noon on January 20th 2017 we will have a shiny new
president with the name Donald J. Trump. A billionaire who
feels he knows how to make the country great again. Seems
to me the USA is a great country. In some ways not very
compassionate, but almost anyone can become a billionaire
president.  In my opinon the rich are notorious for not
caring about the disadvantaged except for what they can
squeeze out of them. Time will tell if this
man proves to be the exception.

Our man Trump seems to think only billionairs are smart
enough to be in his administration. Perhaps thats why
he hasn't filled many jobs yet. Several of those he has
appointed have like many billionairs been involved in
suspicious activities putting money above all.

The national security council will be practically empty of
his appointments, because Trump hasn't found qualified people.
At least those he likes. There will be people there, but will Trump
listen to them?

We can only hope nothing blows up this weekend, because
there are few other than Trump to help him with decisions on
what to do. The job of President covers too much ground for
one person to handle it all. Trump may claim to know how to 
handle a foreign crisis. Only time will tell.

I think we can be sure Trump will be tested by China, Iran,
North Korea, Russia, and others during the first few months
of office. So he best get busy filling the jobs. Very few require
senate approval.

Previous presidents had most jobs filled by now, especially
those dealing with the security of our country. Trump hasn't
done it yet.

GOP
Many of Trumps appointments are not having a easy time in
their hearings.. Of course they are largely friends of the GOP
so it's not surprising it's mostly the Democrats who are
bringing up their poor activities. The GOP is mostly ignoring
this and plan to confirm them all. If they do we can expect
to see changes, and some may cause more harm than good.

The man chosen to run the EPA doesn't seem to care if we have
clean air or water. Just leave it to big business. Isn't it odd, those
who run them live in pristine areas. While letting the rest of us deal
with their pollution.

I hope the voters give our politicans the credit they deserve
in 2018.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 20, 2017, 11:29:34 am
Trump
Our man Trump still has over 650 appointments to make for
government agencies. So far only 30 have been made and those need senate approval. What has Trump been doing? Just Tweeting or watching the news on tv? He has had over two months to fill jobs. Some of these jobs deal with national security. It appears it will be months before this work is done. He had time for speeches and bluster. I am thinking Trump isn't much of a manager. I think over the years he hired people to do what it takes to run a business. He just bullied his way through life, and still does. This is the man we allow control of our nukes. We can only hope Trump really understands what he can do to our world.

Those jobs unfilled. Trump is asking some of Obamas appointments to stay
while he figures out who to replace them with. Odd Trump claimed Obama
created isis. Still he wants Obamas man who has been helping Obama stop 
isis to stay. If Trump felt Obama started it why would he want to keep any
of his people? Could it be Trump was lying about Obama? Or worse yet 
was he just guessing, or listening to Putin.

Now Trump takes office with his people under investigation for collaberating with the Russians to get him elected. He has a huge conflict of interest problem as well. He will be open to law suits from people his businesses are causing harm to. I have a hunch his lawyers are going to be very busy. If Trump tries to stop investigations it will add to suspicions of wrong doing. That's what caused President Nixon to resign.

Another thing Trump as president he can no longer promote any private interprise including his own. Also many agencies that regualate business are appointed by the president. So will he tell them to do favors for friends or hisself.

Trump has no business being president with all the possible conflicts of interest he has. I am sure he plans to make millions as president, but he could loose just as much if he isn't very careful.

Today he claimed his cabinet had the highes IQ of any cabinet. Why? because
he thinks billionairs are the smartist people in the world. I don't think knowing
how to get by with not paying taxes, bills, and other debts shows intelligence,
but mostly greed.

I imagine many of his supporters held their nose when they voted for Trump,
he better of two evils so to speak. I hope the nose holding decision was a good
one for us all. I think we should know in a few months. He told the GOP he
would  sign whatever bill they send him. If so we will see his true colors very
soon.

I know how people were treated in the 1950's. It's possible we will get to see
it again if the GOP has their way. Only time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 20, 2017, 10:18:19 pm
Trump said on Day One of his Presidency that he was going to make IMMEDIATE changes to how things are run. Well, here's 3 of them for starters.  :o

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/20/real_estate/trump-suspends-fha-premium-rate-cut/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/reince-priebus-regulations-memo/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-on-obamacare/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 21, 2017, 12:13:28 pm
Trump said on Day One of his Presidency that he was going to make IMMEDIATE changes to how things are run. Well, here's 3 of them for starters.  :o

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/20/real_estate/trump-suspends-fha-premium-rate-cut/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/reince-priebus-regulations-memo/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-on-obamacare/index.html

Thank you for your post Kobuk. I am afraid this is only the beginning.

I hope the womens march gives our friendly GOP something to think
about. Trump lives in his own worlld so he probably fussed because
of the extra traffic. If he even noticed them.

Trumps Speech.

President Trump. In his speech he said he was looking ouf
for all americans.  So let's see if he defends hispanic and
black voters in Texas. Obama's Justice department was.

He also signed a exective order telling to not strongly enforce laws
regulating the ACA. To weaken it.. Now when the ACA starts to falter
because of this they can say. "Look we said it wasn't any good see how it's
failing? "  More people he isn't looking out for. Unless he presses congress
to replace the ACA first.

He is still planning to build a wall along the boarder with Mexico. A waste
of money since walls do little to stop determend people. Over the last few
years many people are going south into Mexico instead.

Our new President is not so much a republican as he is a nationalist. This
country is great due to it's diversity. If we turn inward we will loose much
more than we will gain.

Nationalisim won't protect us from foreign terrorists, in fact it will make it
easier for them to attack us. Trump uses fear, and hate to spread his way of thinking. I hope the good people of this country tell our legislature how
the feel about Trump and their ideas.

Trumps speech also appeared to say he plans to increase police around the country. Perhaps to start profiling as well. So minorities may have even more problems. More people he isn't looking out for.

His speech was aimed at his supporters not those who arn't. After loosing
the popular vote by almost 3 million votes he should be reaching out to all
people not just those who voted for him. If he doesn't I fear the country is
in for bad times. Only time will tell. 

Some probably say "Hey he hasn't had time to do anything." Well his cabinet
picks show what he is. He picked an atterney general who is against voting
rights, Gays, minorities, and womens rights. A head of education who wants
to do away with public schools. A man who doesn't care about the enviroment
for the head of the EPA.. A head of human health and services who wants to
get rid of the ACA, and womens health care, cut mdicare, and medicade.
This is just four of his picks, and the GOP is mostly fine with them.

THe GOP talks about unity, what about the un-unity they had when Obama
was elected. They have no shame.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 22, 2017, 12:23:06 pm
Women stood up on the 21st and let our polititicans and Trump know
what they thought. It made me proud to see people stand up for what
s right. Millions around the world, but if they don't organize our friendly
legislature and Trump will say. "Just a flash in the pan. by next year
they will be gone."

President Trump
He is such a egomaniac. The first words relayed by his press secretary is
about how big his crowds were? Then on Meet the Press Kelly Conway never
replied to the question "why talk about crowds?". As usual all she did was
try to divert instead of answering any question from the press. Does  she
expect us to believe this and can't see what she is trying to do? Why not just
answer the question? She always avoids questions that might make Trump
look bad. I guess Trump pays her a lot of money to make up stories for
him. After all when she worked for Ted Cruz she wasn't nice when she talked
about Trump. Just shows she is working to make Trump look good. Really
kills her credibility though.

Ever heard of alternative facts? What would they be? Sounds like fake
facts to me. She came out and claimed there was alternative facts.
Perhaps she was referring to other facts, but she didn't say "Other facts"

Our new President is going to loose credibility if he worries about petty
things and makes false claims. When he was a canidate we could expect
flip flops, but as president his words count. So swiching position/truths
every day or so will harm him and the country.

I kind of think Trump feels what made him successful in his campain
will continue to work as President. Time will tell. I think it's Trumps plan
to make the Press a whipping boy because there isn't anyone like Clinton
or Obama to blame.  He has blamed the media in the past to cover his
problems.

 Authoritarians like Trump get the idea they are smarter than anyone
else, and end up being loosers. He had 4 bankrupcies so now he is going
to run the country?

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 23, 2017, 12:38:02 pm
This is Trumps first real working day. So it will be tomorrow before I will have
much to say about it.

I do feel that Trump should never have run for president. His habits are going to
cost the government billions of dollars over the next 4 years.  Each trip to his
tower in New York and back will cost 10's of millions in security and travel costs.

I don't think Trump will be happy sitting in the White House for weeks at a time. I
understand he may be leaving each weekend. Each trip will cost 10's of millions
more of hard earned tax dollars. If he really cares about the the deficit he will stay
put unless he really needs to travel.

The secret service needs a lot of infrastructure where ever the president is. So they
have fly several plane loads of equipment where ever he goes. They have to fly at least
two or three airforce one planes so people on the ground won't know which one the
president is in.  In New York there is a constant security force to keep his residence safe.
The military flies fighter jets over New York making sure no one tries anything from the air
especially when Trump is there.  The City of New York will have to be paid for their round
the clock stationing of men and material.

Even a man like Obama who didn't maintain a out of Washington DC residence cost
the government 10's of millions to travel around the country.  It's just part of the
cost of keeping our leader safe from those wishing him/her harm.

With all his properties around the world I hope we don't have to put our military people
at risk to keep his property safe, but it's likely we will. 

I doubt if most people who voted for the man thought about this. It's another reason he
should sell off his properties. He won't because it would cost him some of his precious
money, and his money is more important to Trump than the lives of those who will have
to protect it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: GrayWolf448 on January 23, 2017, 06:16:33 pm
@oldrabbit from what iv heard he stepped down as CEO and place someone else in charge of his companies so he is no longer working at them, but still majority stock holder i guess. not completely sure about this but hopefully he does realize how expensive it is, and limit his visits anywhere.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 24, 2017, 01:29:54 pm
@oldrabbit from what iv heard he stepped down as CEO and place someone else in charge of his companies so he is no longer working at them, but still majority stock holder i guess. not completely sure about this but hopefully he does realize how expensive it is, and limit his visits anywhere.

Yes he did turn over his control over his business to his family. Only thing I rather
doubt if he stops visitiing with them. How do we know he doesn't tell them when
he is going to change a policy that could affect one of those businesses.

He is already being  sued for taking money from foreign governments which is
unconstitutional. As long has he has any control even second hand control of
his properties he will be under suspicion of wrong doing.

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Our president continues to worry over crowds and the popular vote. He
continues to call the media liers even when they report his own words.  It
appears he is  wanting to discredit the media. To what end who can say.

A press conference was more like one seening a country with a dictator, They
took questions first from news services that support the State (Trump) Not to
say they didn't take questions from the major media, but it makes one
wonder where this is leading. Then again it may be nothing at all.

The GOP did approve his pick to lead the CIA.  I imagine most all
his picks will be approved. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 25, 2017, 01:31:57 pm
Trump
So far his exective orders are much the same as any other
republican president would have done. So Trump isn't being
greatly different so far. Even though his ideas about the
media are not good

We can't really say if he is being enfluenced by the VP or
others he respects. Time will tell if he keeps his political
promises or not.

The pipelines he resurected are supported by the GOP, but
claims its to create many jobs is baseless. True it will
create temporary jobs, but once done there will be less
than 50 jobs for pipe line inspection over all. The
Pipline going to the  gulf is for the benifit of Canadian
oil interests not ours.

These pipelines risk polluting the aquifers that supports
much of the central food growth for the country. If it is
polluted we will have to depend on rain alone to grow
crops in the plains states. It happens that Trump owns
stock in the canadian oil companies. With the earthquakes
in Oklahoma will the pipelines stand up to them?

Trump and the GOP are putting much of our fresh water at
risk for temorary jobs. Trump has effectivly shut the
EPA down. The employees are under a gag order as well.

Trump has done much the same to several other government
agencies as well. Web site data for these agencies are being
cleared as well. Time will tell how this works out.

I hope Trump isn't planning to control what they put out
for the public to see.

Trump signed an excectave order to not let federal funds
support abortion or any help for it anywheree in the world.
This is supported by the GOP and any GOP president would have
done the same. I know many people hate abortion and some will
even kill to stop it, but this order will cause more abortions. Since
Obama allowed education for women about abortions the number
of abortions have decreased over the years. This short sighted
idea to defund planned parenthood will cause a lot of suffering
for women and will cause more unwanted pregnancies.

As with many issues, the idea there is a simple fix for a presumed
problem rarely has the wanted effect. Instead it will likely
make the problem worse.

Trumps idea to get rid of the trade agreement with east asia he
promised to do is causing farmers in the midwest to loose a lot
of money because they won't be able to sell their grainn to
the far east. Saving jobs in one part of the country can often
kill jobs or business in another part of the country. I think
president Trump will find out fixing one problem can cause
another. It's not like running a business that usually only
effects local areas.

Another thing the GOP continues to complain about the growth
of government though the federal work force hasn't increased
during Obamas presidency. Even though the population has
continue to grow. Much of what the GOP claims is nothing
but a whitewash to cover aid to their rich supporters.
Through tax breaks and less regulations. Also it turns out
most annoying regulations for business is at the state level
not the federal.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: GrayWolf448 on January 26, 2017, 12:11:41 am
These pipelines risk polluting the aquifers that supports
much of the central food growth for the country. If it is
polluted we will have to depend on rain alone to grow
crops in the plains states. It happens that Trump owns
stock in the canadian oil companies. With the earthquakes
in Oklahoma will the pipelines stand up to them?

Trump signed an excectave order to not let federal funds
support abortion or any help for it anywheree in the world.
This is supported by the GOP and any GOP president would have
done the same. I know many people hate abortion and some will
even kill to stop it, but this order will cause more abortions. Since
Obama allowed education for women about abortions the number
of abortions have decreased over the years. This short sighted
idea to defund planned parenthood will cause a lot of suffering
for women and will cause more unwanted pregnancies.

Trumps idea to get rid of the trade agreement with east asia he
promised to do is causing farmers in the midwest to loose a lot
of money because they won't be able to sell their grainn to
the far east. Saving jobs in one part of the country can often
kill jobs or business in another part of the country. I think
president Trump will find out fixing one problem can cause
another. It's not like running a business that usually only
effects local areas.

that pipe line thing is a little worrisome... hopefully those things hold, and if any issues/faults in the pipe line are detected they will stop using it.

as for the not letting federal funds support abortion i am all for that. i dont see why our tax dollars should go towards people who are not careful. with rape victims i can mostly understand though this depends heavily on why they got raped. if they went out at a bar with minimal clothing and got drunk with some random guy they should have been more careful, if they were walking down the street with normal clothing they should get our full support. people need to start realizing that in some cases the rape victims have alot of fault placed on themselves, though i do still support federal funding for abortions in rape cases.
though for the women who just go out with random guys for sex, get pregnant and demand the government pay for the abortion forget that... i dont want any of my money going towards you just so you can go around having unprotected sex when ever/with who ever you want.

and as for the farmers hopefully they dont fall too far. i dont really know what the trade agreement did, but hopefully even if things get really bad for the farmers it will create more jobs than the jobs lost.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 26, 2017, 01:00:51 pm
I don't favor doing abortions just because it's inconvenient for the mother
to have the child. But some people who don't want any support for
abortions don't care if the mother will die, or if it was a child who was
raped, or due  to any rape. Including incest. One ignorant man running
for the US Senate as a Republican said."The womans body will abort a
pregnancy on it's own if it was rape." He wasn't elected fortuantly, but I
am sure the GOP wished he had been.

They don't want birth control, or education on how to prevent pregncies. They
say once sperm hits egg it's done, and nothing should stop it. Being a man I
can't understand what a woman deals with when she is pregnant, but from
what i have heard having a abortion is very difficult thing for a woman
emotionally. Then when politiicans think they have a right to interfere I am
sure it makes it even worse.  Most of them are MEN who haven't the slightest
idea of what it's like to be pregnant.

Women should have reasonable control of their bodies, and the government
shouldn't order them to give up the right. No more than a homosexual should
be told who they can love or marry.

I know many people do understand there is a need for abortions, but the
radicals who don't create a lot of problems for women who need reproductive
health care. This business of not funding Planned Parenthuood is a snowjob.
Their purpose isn't for abortions, but for womens health..They usually try
to counsel the woman into having the child.  For the most part the GOP
uses this issue to get votes at womens expense.

Trump
The president continues to harp on voting fraud, and how illegal voters
gave Clinton such a lead in the popular vote. Now he plans to have it
investigated. To what end, who can say.

He signed a order to go after illeagle aliens in our cities. The cities have
protected them unless they were shown to be danger to the public. They
will not help goverenment agents to find aliens. The reason? because they
want their residents to feel secure when calling the police to report a crime. Otherwise they likely would not.

Trump is starting the process for the Trump wall. Or perhaps Trumps folly
before it's done. I was wondering to my self, will Mexico let us stand on
their side of the boarder to work on their side of the wall?  Or will we have
to build it set back on us far enough to have room to build it. A interesting
thought at least. What if the river that seperates our country from Mexico
moves. Then the wall could be in the wrong place. I wonder if it will be built
in the middle of the Rio Grand river. Also if I am not mistaken the boarder runs through a large body of water near the southern tip of Texas. Are they going
to buid a wall through it down to the lake bed?

Trump is saying we should take Iraq's oil. Perhaps to pay us for helping
them. I don't think we were invited in the first place. This will cause bad
feelings  between us and the middle eastern oil countries at the very
least. Trump really shouldn't make policy like this publicly untill he
finds out how the leaders of these countires feel. His words alone could
cause misunderstandings that may lead to problems.

GOP
The GOP has turned the Voice of America radio into a partisan state
radio station run at the pleasure of the president. To brocast inside the
USA as Trump pleases. He has already appointed people to run the station.
This is no different than state radio under adictatorship. Trump can brodcast
his opinons, and lies about anything he feels is good ro him or the country.

This station used to be to be broadcast abroad to keep people in other
countries informed of news and intertainment. Also to tell other countries
about our policies. Untill last november it was alwasy ran by non parisan
group of people knolegable about broadcating in general. The GOP changed
it so the president can appoint anyone to run it. I don't think it was an
accident they made this change after Trump was elected..

It seems our politicians will stop at nothing to get what they want politically.
If we let them decide without opposition who knows how far they will go.
Even good people of consious can do bad things when convinced they
should.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 26, 2017, 04:47:34 pm
I don't favor doing abortions just because it's inconvenient for the mother
to have the child. But some people who don't want any support for
abortions don't care if the mother will die, or if it was a child who was
raped, or due  to any rape. Including incest. One ignorant man running
for the US Senate as a Republican said."The womans body will abort a
pregnancy on it's own if it was rape." He wasn't elected fortuantly, but I
am sure the GOP wished he had been.

They don't want birth control, or education on how to prevent pregncies. They
say once sperm hits egg it's done, and nothing should stop it. Being a man I
can't understand what a woman deals with when she is pregnant, but from
what i have heard having a abortion is very difficult thing for a woman
emotionally. Then when politiicans think they have a right to interfere I am
sure it makes it even worse.  Most of them are MEN who haven't the slightest
idea of what it's like to be pregnant.

Women should have reasonable control of their bodies, and the government
shouldn't order them to give up the right. No more than a homosexual should
be told who they can love or marry.

I know many people do understand there is a need for abortions, but the
radicals who don't create a lot of problems for women who need reproductive
health care. This business of not funding Planned Parenthuood is a snowjob.
Their purpose isn't for abortions, but for womens health..They usually try
to counsel the woman into having the child.  For the most part the GOP
uses this issue to get votes at womens expense.

Trump
The president continues to harp on voting fraud, and how illegal voters
gave Clinton such a lead in the popular vote. Now he plans to have it
investigated. To what end, who can say.

^ I don't see this as being an issue. It's only an issue because crybaby Trump is having a temper tantrum because he lost the popular vote which seems to have hurt his pride. Oh boo hoo.  :P Cry me a river.
Is this how the voter fraud issue got started?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/bernhard-langer-donald-trump-voter-fraud/index.html

He signed a order to go after illeagle aliens in our cities. The cities have
protected them unless they were shown to be danger to the public. They
will not help goverenment agents to find aliens. The reason? because they
want their residents to feel secure when calling the police to report a crime. Otherwise they likely would not.

Trump is starting the process for the Trump wall. Or perhaps Trumps folly
before it's done. I was wondering to my self, will Mexico let us stand on
their side of the boarder to work on their side of the wall?  Or will we have
to build it set back on us far enough to have room to build it. A interesting
thought at least. What if the river that seperates our country from Mexico
moves. Then the wall could be in the wrong place. I wonder if it will be built
in the middle of the Rio Grand river. Also if I am not mistaken the boarder runs through a large body of water near the southern tip of Texas. Are they going
to buid a wall through it down to the lake bed?

^ Mexico's President has canceled a meeting with Donald Trump. He has also repeatedly said that Mexico will NOT pay for the wall. Guess this is one campaign promise DT may not be able to keep. Score: Mexico - 1, Trump - 0.  :D
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/politics/mexico-president-donald-trump-enrique-pena-nieto-border-wall/index.html
Trump wants 20% tax to pay for border wall.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/donald-trump-mexico-import-tax-border-wall/index.html

Trump is saying we should take Iraq's oil. Perhaps to pay us for helping
them. I don't think we were invited in the first place. This will cause bad
feelings  between us and the middle eastern oil countries at the very
least. Trump really shouldn't make policy like this publicly untill he
finds out how the leaders of these countires feel. His words alone could
cause misunderstandings that may lead to problems.

^ Trump doesn't care about other people's feelings.  :P It's bad enough we were in 2 Iraq wars, now Trump may be signaling about a possible 3rd?  :o If we go back in again, it's just going to inflame more anger and tensions with Middle Eastern people's and create more radical extremeism against us.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/trump-oil-isis-iraq/index.html

GOP
The GOP has turned the Voice of America radio into a partisan state
radio station run at the pleasure of the president. To brocast inside the
USA as Trump pleases. He has already appointed people to run the station.
This is no different than state radio under adictatorship. Trump can brodcast
his opinons, and lies about anything he feels is good ro him or the country.

This station used to be to be broadcast abroad to keep people in other
countries informed of news and intertainment. Also to tell other countries
about our policies. Untill last november it was alwasy ran by non parisan
group of people knolegable about broadcating in general. The GOP changed
it so the president can appoint anyone to run it. I don't think it was an
accident they made this change after Trump was elected..

^ Source for this?

It seems our politicians will stop at nothing to get what they want politically.
If we let them decide without opposition who knows how far they will go.
Even good people of consious can do bad things when convinced they
should.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 27, 2017, 01:04:43 pm
Here is the link Kobuk.
Voice of america issue.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/voice-america-has-concerns-about-team-trumps-takeover (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/voice-america-has-concerns-about-team-trumps-takeover)


Trump went to talk to the GOP in I believe Pennsylvania. I
hope the GOP paid for the cost of flying Trump there. After
all it appeared to be a political meeting for the GOP.

Trump
It appears President Trump is using unsecured devices for
phone calls, and Twitter. Trump was ready to lock Clinton
up for using unsecured emails during his campain. Now he is
doing much the same. As it stands his Twitter account
could be hacked. Imagine the problems that could cause
Trump and the country.

Trump proposed adding a 20 percent import tax to pay for the
Trump wall. Even the GOP isn't looking at this with much
favor. I imagine Trump is going to have to find another way
to fund it. A import tax would cost US citizens not Mexico.

The Mexican president canceled his visit because of Trump. Of
course Trump claimed it was a joint agreement. Couldn't
be Trumps fault of course.

Anyone notice how Trump starts snorting while talking? He did
it in all three debates...I think it happens when he gets
really upset. I noticed him doing it when he was talking
about voters being registered in two states. He has family
members who are registered in two states. So he best talk
to his family first.  I wonder if he is ever going to
get off this voter and crowd business? He asked the DC park
department to provide photos to prove his crowds were
bigger than Obamas.

I understand Trump may sign orders to undo Obamas sanctions
against Russia for their envolvement in our election. Will
Trump removed more of them? Only time will tell.

Trump may have to rewrite some of his executive orders due
to mistakes and being unconstitutional. I think he will be
finding things aren't as simple as he thinks they are.

A Russian Cyber security man has been accoused of Treason.
Perhaps it's becouse he spilled the beans about the hacking
and the story on Trump.  No way of knowing, but it's very
possible.

Few people in the USA like Putin and his actions. Even among
Trumps supporters. Trump will only say we should get along
with Russia. It's becoming very strange how Trump
continues to support Putin. Even over our allies.
-------------------------------------------------------
Congress
The resistance against Trump and GOP is starting to crack
some of the GOP's solidarity. Time will tell, but it looks like
the peoples resistance isn't slowing down yet, instead it's
increasing.

This resistance isn't just against Trump and the GOP. The
democrats are being asked why they are supporting Trumps
cabinet picks. With phone calls and groups of people at
their home offices.

Public pressure is causing Trump to back off a bit with his
gag orders on government agencies. Time will tell if it
changes.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 28, 2017, 01:08:03 pm
Trump
The president signed a executive order preventing people from some
middle east contries coming into the USA for 90 days. Some were
caught in mid flight and have been stopped even though they have
legitimate visas. Some are people that work for our government.
Those from Syria are barred indefinatly.

This also affects refuges who are looking for a better life. Even for
their own personal safety. Should we let fear change the principles
of our country that we have had since WWII..

I find it odd there are over 40,000 people killed on our highways
each year, but we feel we need walls or armed guards to protect
us. The number of people killed by Terrorists is few in comparison.
We are way more likely to be killed by home grown criminals than a
terrorist. In fact most of the shootings have been by home grown
crazy people.

That's not to say we shouldn't be careful, and try to make sure people
arn't comming here to hurt or kill. But I think we are going to far with
Trumps ideas.

Are we going to return to the way we were before WWII? Our government
refused German Jews entry apparently because they might be spies. Many
were children under 14 years of age. A ship load of 900 Jews were turned
back to die in Nazi gas chambers. Many or most of these people died at
the hands of the Nazies  Many German americans were discriminated
against  as well. It wasn't just the Japanese americans.

The US passed laws to correct shameful practices like this. I wonder if
it's because people today have forgotten, or is it just fear like it was in
the 1930's.

People do terrible things when they are afraid. Having a
president who uses fear makes the problem even worse.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 29, 2017, 12:17:06 pm
Trump
Our new president strikes again. The executive order he signed
to keep out refuges also included legitimate people who happened
to be traveling back to the USA. Even those with Green Cards.
People who worked with our military, and state department. Even
a 75 year old woman in a wheelchair returning from a visit to her
family.

Fortuantly a federal Judge paused this action. Otherwise most would
have been sent back to possibly meet who knows what. Possibly even
death. Trump is likely trying to create a Muslim ban without really saying
it. People are still being detained under somewhat poor conditions.

After this thoughtless order can we expect people in foreign countries
to help our military, or even the state department. I don't think we
can expect any help when promises of protection are broken. It is the
very people that help us prevent terrorist attacks Trump is hurting.

This ban will give aid to the terroists who say the west (USA) is anti
Muslim, and will possibly help them gain support.

Trump is putting more far right people into the National security counsil.
People who don't support rights for minorities, gays, or women. Trump
needs to kick all those hard right people out. They will create more problems
for him and us in the future. I think they are at the bottom of much of the
radical actions Trump has taken.

On "Meet the Press" Trumps man was tripping all over his self making
excuses for Trumps refugee order. He is using the excuse "We are protecting
americans." I am not sure it will work out that way in the end.

One curious note. Some of the middle east countries he didn't enclude
in his entry ban have Trump properies and businesses. Suggests he didn't
want to hurt his businesses in those countries.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 29, 2017, 12:57:48 pm
Quote
Trump is putting more far right people into the National security counsil.
People who don't support rights for minorities, gays, or women. Trump
needs to kick all those hard right people out. They will create more problems
for him and us in the future. I think they are at the bottom of much of the
radical actions Trump has taken.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 30, 2017, 11:11:39 am
Quote
Trump is putting more far right people into the National security counsil.
People who don't support rights for minorities, gays, or women. Trump
needs to kick all those hard right people out. They will create more problems
for him and us in the future. I think they are at the bottom of much of the
radical actions Trump has taken.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html


That link doesn't get into the National security council issues very well. This
link takes you to a video that goes in depth about it. You will have to watch
it for a bit to see it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/trump-puts-steve-bannon-on-national-security-council/vp-AAmnLtN

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 30, 2017, 12:52:44 pm
I suppose Trump is trying to protect the public. I just wish he would take the
time to work out a reasonable order with people in the know. Seems like he
is trying to use common sense methods that will backfire on him. Common
sense rarely leads to good plans. The world is too complicated for simple ideas
to work.

Stopping an 88 year old blind man, and a 5 year old, or a  wheelchair bound 75
year old woman from entering the country isn't going to win Trump any favors..
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 31, 2017, 01:10:20 pm
Trump
Not much new since the problems with his refugee ban. Many people
are out demonstrating against Trump and his cabinet picks.

Republicans and Democrats alike are being swamped by calls and
demonstrations at their home offices.

Time will tell. If this continues Trump is in for trouble if the GOP
stops their support of him. Many of Trumps supporters are still
saying. "Give him time." I wonder how much time they will give
him if he continues acting the way he has.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 01, 2017, 12:05:33 pm
Over 1000 professional Diplomates of the state department have 
protested Trumps order banning refugees. Trump can't fire them,
but I bet he wishes he could.

Trump
Well there it is, Presidnet Trump appoints a GOP conservative
Judge (Goresuch) for the supreme court. The GOP right picked
the man, and Trump gave them what they wanted. A Ivy league
man from Harvard or Yale.

Turns out when the GOP stood in the way of Obama's pick for
the supreme court. It was bought and paid for by corporate america.
Big business wanted a conservative judge that will support their
agenda in the future. They will likely have it with this Judge. He has
supported big business over the worker, and common man.

With this appointment we have another business pick by Trump.
He he has made decisions supporting his religious values over
the rights of others as well.

The GOP is saying this man is highly qualified to do the job
of a supreme court judge, but that doesn't make him a good pick
for the job. No one is perfect of course, but let's have someone
who looks at our nation and balances it against the constitution,
not following the GOP or any policical party when making a
judgment. Thats the reason they get a life time term. To prevent
partisan threats. Of course it's still possible someone could
try to bribe them. It's not very likely as the judges get paid
well and generally have a lot of integrity.

The judges are human of course and in 2000 the judges voted
on party lines for Bush over Gore for president. It's a shame
there isn't a way to keep religious feelings and partison
politics out of the equation. Our constitution was written
trying to do this, but human nature continues to put it to
the test.

The GOP has said that if Clinton had won they would not approve
any appointment of hers to the supreme court. In fact they don't
plan to approve any man that is appointed by the democrats from
now on. Now they are telling the Democrats they should approve
this pick? That is about as hypercritical as they can get. They have
complained in the past that the Democrats were out to pack the court
with liberals. Turns out the GOP wants it full of conservatives
instead. 3 Judges are close to the end of their ability to serve,
so it's possible they could get their way.

It's the constitutional duty of the Senate to advice and consent for
an appointment of the president.. It is not their duty to use politics
as a part of their process. They are supposed to put the apointed
people to the test. To see they are lawful individuals deserving of the
job. Our founders would be pointing their fingers in shame at our
politicians of today.

I have a hunch both the Democrats and the GOP will be
getting an earful of protests from the voters over this pick.
Even the pro life people aren't totally happy about it. Turns
out he wasn't openly against abortion, so they fear he might
not help them get rid of womens right to abortion.

As bad as this all sounds, on occasion a new supreme court judge
turns out to not be what was hoped they would be. So we can hope
if the man is approved he will realize how his dicisions will
affect all the people of the nation, and make them accordinly.

A link to one Senators comments about this appointment.

https://www.merkley.senate.gov/news/press-releases/merkley-statement-on-supreme-court
 (https://www.merkley.senate.gov/news/press-releases/merkley-statement-on-supreme-court)

Link to MSnbc report on the appointment.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-nominates-federal-appeals-court-judge-neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-n714551
 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-nominates-federal-appeals-court-judge-neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-n714551)


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 02, 2017, 12:51:23 pm
Trump
Well it seems our new president likes to give foreign leaders a earful of bragging
and telling them how to run their country. Even to give a thinly vailed warning to
Iran.

I really think all those leaks from the White House was more about diverting the
media away from the nomination of the supreme court judge. I am sure he is
aware of the public pressure on the congress to reject his picks. So he likely feels
he needs to help the GOP by diverting attention to things that sound even more
important. He did much the same when he was running for the office of president.


If Trump starts picking on Iran I think he will find his buddy Putin telling him
to back off. After all Iran and Russia are pretty friendly. Putin has a large Muslim
population to deal with, so he will likely put on a good front trying to show he cares
about them. Including Iran.

I hope Trump learns he can't treat other leaders in the world like they are his lackies.
If he dosen't we may find our selves in a a war before the year is out. Then I wonder
how his supporters will feel about their man Trump? Especially when the body bags
start coming home.

GOP
I don't think they ever expected to get so much flack from the public over Trump.
The GOP has always been the party of the Business man. They support them, and
it's not that surprising they would vote for people who are the riches people in the
country. They always make the claim they are for JOBS, but never care that much
about working conditions, wages except to keep them low. They hate Unions the
same way big business does. So the only way your going to get their attention if
to give them the fear of loosing their prestigious job in congress.

Dem
Our friendly democrats have been sucked into the big money love that many of
the GOP has. I think they are finding if they don't return to their roots they will
find them selves hard pressed to stay in office as well.

If things continue as they are. 2018 may become the real year of change instead of 2016. The 
Tea party made big inroads in 2010, but compared to the public outcry of 2017 they weren't
much more than a whimper. At their height they had an approval rating of 39 percent. The
current outcry already has an approval of 60 percent, and may still be climbing.

Only time will tell. Also I want personally apologize to our Aussie friends for how
Trump treated your countries leader, and to our Mexican friends for how Trump
treated your president, and the people of Mexico in general. I think Trump has little
or no shame when he trys to bully our friends.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 03, 2017, 01:30:34 pm
GOP
The GOP made the claim thei all the phone calls they are
getting are due to robo calling. Well they can lie to them
selves, but the truth will bite them in the end. They can quit
hiding and come out and talk to the voters too. A GOP senator
from Arkansas who's election was financed by a bunch of
billionairs finally said he would come speak at a townhall
meeting later this month. I have a hunch it will be after he
votes for Trumps picks. I am sure he wouldn't want to disappoint
his super rich supporters.Trump has said he will support
removing the law against churches supporting political
canidates. Another place for rich people to feed money to a
favored canidate. I wonder if the GOP realize a lot of minorities
go to church, and they will be able to support their canidates
via church too..

Trump
Trump should never talk unless it's a speech written for
him. He almost always sticks his foot up to the kneee in his
mouth when he tries to make a speech on his own. He like most
people make slipups when they talk to a crowd. With Trump it's
much worse because he seems to look at his self with  visions
of Godhood in the eyes of his supporters. And now as president
his words have real effects on real people.

I think this is why he falls apart when talking to other
world leaders on the phone. He runs off at the mouth about
things people have little or no interest in, and when they
don't agree with his bluster he gets mad and acts like an
idiot. Then people have to make excuses for him. This could
lead to serious trouble.

Now Trump is trying to place blaim on Obama for the problems
the attack he authorized in Yeman where we lost one of our
highly trained Navy seals, and several others injured. He is going
to own the next mistake he makes that kills our brave soldiers.

Trump was complaining about his replacement on the Apprentist
show. Does he really think the public really cares? Now I
understand he has removed the sanctions Obama put on Russia
for their hacking during the election. Put on your bib Trump,
perhaps Putin will spoon feed you some nice words in return.

Come on GOP, Democrats, Let's hold Trump accountable for how
he is acting. How he is ignoring the constitution. I know it's
only been 2 weeks, but he has squandered any good will the
american public might have had for him since he was elected.
His support in Congress is slipping, and if he starts a war
with Iran, who will support him then?

I have heard Trump really desires appreciation of his actions by
the american public if not the world aaccording to a friend of his.
That friend tried to talk him out of running for fear it might cause
him a mental breakdown.

Stubbernly he didn't listen.  The job of president is the  worse job there
is for appreciation, as almost always half the people in the country don't
like the president for one reason or another.That probably includes half
the world too. If this desire is strong enough he may end up having a
nervous breakdown after all.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 04, 2017, 12:22:48 pm
Trump flies to Florida for the weekend. Millions of tax dollars spent for
the trip. Turns out the GOP is having a super big fund raiser for their senators
in Florida this weekend. You suppose it's a coincidence? I think not, he will
stop by.. I think  we can depend on it.

Why is the GOP having a big fund raiser at this time. It's a year before
any primaries? I think Trump told his rich friends and the GOP party leaders
their senators need to be reminded who butters their bread. So send them
off to a big fund raiser for that purpose.

Trump meets pharmaceutical company CEO's. He never mentioned
controlling prices to them as he said he would during his campain.
Ok all you supporters. You should remmind your man Trump of this.
I bet if his supporters started shouting at him for breaking a promise he
like the GOP legislatures would go hide. Or call them paid anarchists.

Trump is he really in control or a figurehead?
It appears Trump doesn't like to read. He depends on others
and television for his information. So if this is the case
who is really running the white house? Is Trump the president
or a puppet of his advisers?

So far he seems to be following the advice of his avisers,
mainly Bannon, and Flynn. Two right wing racists. I have
said it in the past, Trump is a racist because the follows
Bannon and Trump has a record of treating minorities, gays,
and women like second class citizens.

I know many of his supporters felt there was a smart buisness
man behind his harsh comments, but so far that hasn't shown up.
Trump hates it when people disagree with him. So now he is
calling protesters paid anarchists, people against the state of
law. This from a man who defies the constitutioin for his own
gain.

I often wonder why he didn't tell his supporters he was going to put
the same people in his cabinet he was running Clinton down for associating
with. You suppose he was afraid they might think he was a hypocrite?
I imagine he did.

Trump said he felt a dictatorial government was more efficent,
and he appears to be acting like one with the help of his
puppet masters. If the american people don't stand against
him the GOP may give Trump the power he and his billionaire
frends want.

Dictators often use the excuse. I am protecting the people.
That's what Trump is saying about his travel ban, and is
already wanting an appeal to over turn a Judges stay, because
his ban supposedly protects the american people. Trump has even
revoked the Visa's of 100,000, people in secret apparently
trying to give his ban more credibility. To what end will
Trump go to get his way?

GOP
This is for the people in various states. Several GOP controled
states are pushing to control demonstrations. This could lead
to loss of the freedom of speech and assembly in our country.
The laws could require permit approvals based according to
partisan feelings. Say yes if your our party, No if your not.

The GOP can see the handwriting on the wall. They know they
are in trouble if this unrest by the people continues. The
GOP is a minority party. They can only stay in power if the
majority lets them by not voting. So they do things like
setting up voting districts to favor them, Restrict
voting for people who normally don't vote for them.

Most GOP leaders are people who think they need to control
the common man. They don't want the common man upsetting their
playhouse. They will lie to get their way. I have seen ads on
television already trying to convince people to support Trump
and his picks by contacting their senators.

House GOP members voted to let people who are so mentally ill
they can't be trusted to cash their own social security checks
to have guns. It's up to the Senate to vote next. The NRA doesn't
want any restrictions on guns. So I imagine they will vote the
same. And they worry about Muslims. (shakes head)

I think most people who voted for Trump feel it's too soon to bad
mouth him, but it's not so much the executive orders. He is putting
big business ahead of our country and the people. Above all a president
should follow the constitution which his business practices prove he hasn't.
Now he may start a war with Iran. If it happens the price of Gasoline will
go up fast. All thanks to Trump.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 05, 2017, 01:01:40 pm
Trump
He should like the Saturday night live skits about him.
They are getting better all the time. He should be
willing to laugh at his self. If Trump doesn't like
the skits he should act more like a real president. The
skit writers won't stop, but at least he could be proud
and not have to make up lies to prove why he is.

If he wants people to like him all he has to do is be
honest and care about people. Lying and only caring about
his rich friends will gain him nothing but false praise.
This can lead to paranoia, and mistrust of those under him.

Another thing he has to get over wanting everyone to
like him. No president has ever pleased everyone. One
mans like is anothers dislike.

Trump has to get over this egomainia as president. He
can't run the country like a CEO of a corporation. If
he starts firing people for doing their job, it will
cause him nothing but trouble. Especially if people
feel they have to please him instead.

If he isn't careful his approval rating will be as
bad as congress has been. Less than 30 percent.

It seems those who support Trump may be getting together
in groups to show their support.  I hope we don't have clashes
between supporters and protestors. This will only discredit both
groups.  I am sure our man Trump will point at his supports and
say "Look at the huge numbers of supprters out for me." Even if
there isn't a huge number.

I understand Trump has been studying President Nixon, even
to feel he was a good President. I don't think many from that
era would agree he was all that good. Nixon tried to defy the
supreme court. I wonder if Trump wonders if he can get
away with that? I think that just might get him inpeached if
he did.

Seems the GOP feels it's ok for them and Trump to not
follow the constitution to the letter. As if the fact they were
elected gives them the authority to do what they want. Where
will this lead? The court only has federal marshals to enforce
their rulings. Trump has the US military at his beckon call.
Would our military support Trump in that case? I would hope
not, but I hope we never have to find out.

I listened to one of his supporters talking to a reporter. The
way he talked sounded supishiouly like someone who was paid
to be there. The reporter then talked to a protestor, who sounded
more like a regular person would talk. Just there to show
they don't like Trump, not making a speech that sounded practiced.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 06, 2017, 12:22:24 pm
Not a lot to say for sunday. The Vice President decided to go see the
superbowl. I wonder if he even cared that his presence created problems for
many people who went to see the game, and not him. Not counting the
considerable expense it cost tax payers for his protection.

The VP was on Meet the press, and was trying to defend President Trump. He is
a smooth talker so when he was asked why even after bad mouthing Obama for
complaining about a court decision back when he was a congressman. He was saying
it's fine for Trump to do the very same thing now, He replyed "I have learned much
over the years in office." He then tried to change the subject. I paraphrased it, but
that was his excuse. I would say he has learned how to avoid questions.

I don't care which party a politician is in, they should answer the question or say
they can't, and admit it if they make a mistake. This business of trying to spin
something bad into something good just destroys their credibiity in my opinion.

It does seem our man Trump is going to be a president that plans to
travel around the country and the world alot. I imagine he has been one
who likes to travel. Otherwise why have a big comfortable airplane of
his own. Of course it did make him look important to some and a con
artist to others.

So to those supporters of Trump I say be proud. Your man may come
to your city soon, and you get to pay millions of tax dollars for his travel
and protection. Odd he said he wanted to cut government costs, but each
trip he makes costs 10's of millions. He should avoid UN-nessecary trips or
pay the cost his self. I mean a billionaire like Trump could afford a few trips..

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 07, 2017, 01:19:02 pm
Trump
He continues to fight the courts about his Travel ban. One
appeals court has supported the stay untill a hearing is
held. Now Trump says it will be the courts fault if we have
an terrorist attack. As if Trumps order was going to stop
any and all terrorist attacks.

Our man Trump is saying the media doesn't report terroist
attacks. Perhaps Trump falls alseep watching the news. The
media jumps on any attack terrorist or otherwise. They spend
hours on attacks.

He went to our militaries nerve center in Floria, and talked
to those in the military. Not that they could oppose anything
he might say. So it was a good place to avoid protesters while
making one of his usual speeches.

Trump implied our government kills people just as Russia does.
This accually got some of the GOP upset a little. Others made
excuses for Trump. Putin has people in the press killed along
with leaders of those who oppose him.. I really don't think our
government does that. I can't say it's never happened though.
I am sure there are some consperiacy theories out there
that would say it does.

There is some talk that President Trump isn't reading
some of the orders he is signing. The saturday night live
skit about being under Bannon's control might be more real
than we think. Trump said. I call the shots, not any
one else. He sure doesn't like anything that makes him
look wrong or bad. Now Trump claims he wasn't briefed on
the order to put Bannon on the security council. Well he
only had to read it.

I wonder how Trump felt when the guy they tried to
catch in Yeman called him a "Fool"

GOP
Well our friendly GOP voted for Trumps pick for secretary
of education this  morning. Another Billionaire added to the
cabinet. She has little or no knowlege about public schools.
She promotes privately owned schools, and of course she
owns some of them. Talk about a conflict of interest.  It
seems the GOP  will vote for anyone who gives them a lot
of money which she did for most of the GOP.

They totally ignored the outcry from the public to not
vote for her. I hope every senator who is running in
2018 who only cares about the rich are voted out. Along
with those in congress who do the same.

If we don't this country will be controled by the super rich,
and they think the common man is too ignorant  to make any
government decisions. Trump all be said so. He said I am going
to pick the smartest people when I am elected. Almost every
pick is someone who is a billionaire or a friend of one. I guess
he thinks regular people are too ignorant for the job.

Trump still has almost 650 heads of government agencies to fill. So
far he has picked about 40. I guess he is having trouble finding
enough super rich people that want to work in jobs that won't
give them a lot of prestige.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 08, 2017, 01:15:41 pm
Trump
He should cancel his order for a travel ban and draw up a new 
one that fits the constitution. Trump just can't admit he made
a mistake. It apparently goes against his beliefs. He seems to
fear it will harm his credibility of being a strong leader.

His new education secretary is a fund raiser and
donates to the GOP. She also wants to push religion
for schools. Her ideas have caused Michigan to have
the lowest test scores in the country. They used to
be one of the highest.She also doesn't want to educate
kids who are handicapped physically or mentally.

This is the kind of person Trump likes. I think all he
looks for is how much money they make.

Trump continues to use fear trying to make his self look
good to the public. Fear is what dictators use to gain
power. They say "I need more control to protect the people."

So at some point they gain enough to do anything they want
telling the people it's to protect them. This is how Russias
Putin works. He tells the people he is protecting them, and
since he controls the press the people only hear what he
says. I think Trump is using Putin as a model for how he
wants to run the USA.

There is about 20 percent of the population that would
be in favor of a benevolant dictator. One that agrees with their
way of thinking of course. These people feel it's a much
better way of government. Trump has made comments that
he feels it is more efficent.

Several dictators gained power by using fear, Congress possibly
could declare some kind of emergency to suspend the constitution
if they thought it was needed. Marshal law can be declared during
wartime or emergencies. Even though it seems unlikely. It's not that
big a step moving to a dictatorship supposedly only temporally. Often
once a dictator has power they find excuses to keep it. Since  we have
a highly educated military, its likely they would take over, and
reinstate the constitution if they felt the whole thing was  an attempted
take over by crooked people or another country.

Though we feel our democracy is safe, it's people who run it, and
they can make mistakes that sometimes are hard to undo. We only
need to look at other countries, and the bad leaders they often get.
Rich people often feel they know what's best for the public. Perhaps
they do, but they are humans with human failings, that's why we need
checks and balances for government.

GOP
Last night the majority leader of the US senate stopped a senator from
reading a letter from Coretta Scott King. The letter told of the racist actions
of the Senator Trump picked for the US atterney general. He implied it made
the Senator look bad, and he would not allow it to be read. Then the rest
of the GOP senators voted to agree with the majority leaders ruling.
I think this shows what kind of politicans who call themselves Republican we
have in the US Senate. I hear some are afraid of Trump . They should stand
for whats right and not keeping their seat in the Senate.

Later excuses have been made saying the woman Senator had been warned
to stop making bad remarks about a fellow Senator, and not the letter. I think 
they are trying to cover the fact they don't like minorities and what they say.
Especially since they often don't get their votes.

One other thing. The state of Missouri has passed a law making it a
"Right to work" state. If I understand right the AFL CIO union has
asked for a referendum for the voting public to decide.

It's not just a few states that have this law. The GOP is pushing to make
"Right to work" a federal law. I expect our man Trump will support it.

If it comes to a vote i will support the union cause. Big business
always tries to pay workers as little as they can along with few
benifits. This law is a union buster and the GOP knows it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 09, 2017, 11:52:10 am
GOP
I wonder how many people know the senates rule 19 was made
for the Senate to stop fist fights on the Senate floor in
1902.

Senate majority leader used it while a Senator was quoting
a honored black womans concerns of a racist the Senate was
about to vote for . I think he planned to use it on the woman
Senator from Massachusetts hoping to make her look bad.
Turns out she has been a thorn in the GOP's side since she
was elected to the Senate. The same Majority leader allowed
male Senators to quote the same latter the Woman Sanator
was removed from speaking for doing the same.

This majority leader has done much by this action to
stir up more women than almost anything else the GOP has
done. Though the GOP is afraid of Trump. The GOP may end
up destroying it's self trying to keep Trump happy.

After the unsucessful attempts to hack our voting
machines by the Russians. Our friendly GOP votes to
end the commission that worked to protect voting
mechanics in our country. I think this looks bad for
keeping our votes safe from those who would like to
change the results to their benifit. Rather strange
for a party who claims to want legal voting. I hope
this wasn't done to make it easier for GOP controlled
states to restrict voting even more.

Trump
He tells the public he is probably smarter than anyone
else, but then Trump turns around saying everything only
requires simple fixes. If there is a problem he seems to
think he can sign an order to solve it. Just like the
Travel ban. He seems to think this will prevent all terror
attacks. A wall which will keep illeagle aliens out. He
looks like a man who has a lot to learn about many things
as well as government.

All this sounds good, but it's never going to do what 
Trump claims it will. I wonder if he really believes
what he says. If so the country will go down hill
following his lead. It's possible since Obama got the
economy so strong it might coast along well even with
Trumps bad ideas till after the 2018 election.

If this happens the GOP will likely stay in power. Then
in 2019 or later the economy could crash. But if the economy
fails in 2018 the GOP will be out and the democrats will have
to pick up the pieces with Trump trying to blame them
for the problems.

A country the size of the US changes slowly, and unless
something drastic hamppens. Trump could ride the wave 
playing his games. I hope all goes well, but there
will be a lot of people hurt if it doesn't.

Like President Bill Clinton said when he fires tran for the
presidency. "It's all about the economy." That's True as
most people vote with their pocket book in mind. His
wife should have remembered that.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 10, 2017, 11:51:02 am
Trump
Our man Trump looses appellate court decision on his
Travel ban. All three judges voted to keep the
stay in place.

Trump was obviously upset over this loss, but instead
of trying to fix his executive order he continues to
fight vowing to win in the end.

Trump still claims he has greater power than the courts
when it comes to protecting the country. The court reminds
him the constitution and rule of law is to be obeyed even
by the president.

Trump calls it policial even though 2 of the 3 judges were
appinted by a GOP president.

He still claims his order is to protect the country, but he has yet to
prove it's not a religious ban as no proof was given to show terrorists
from the affected  countries have attacked our country. Also he has
made many statements saying he planned to ban Muslims if elected. He
could fix this by amending his order, but that would be admitting he made
a mistake. That is a no no for Trump to swallow.

A Poll of his supporters seem to think it's ok for Trump
to call the court names and even to ignore their ruling.
I wonder if they know it's the court that protects their
rights. Without the courts no ones rights would be
protected. The country would revert to strong man law.

It seems some of his supporters think Trumps word should be
law even if it's unconstitutional.

Apparently our schools are doing a poor job of teaching kids about
government if people know so little about how our Federal system
of government is supposed to work. Somehow I doubt if our new
Billionairess education secretary will try to improve it.


GOP
Untill the GOP congress and Senate get a backbone and tell
Trump there are some things he can't do. Trump will drag them
down with him.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 11, 2017, 11:38:55 am
Trump
It appears Trump is starting the alien roundup he promised
in his campain. Officials denied they were doing it. Seemingly
not wanting to warn those who might want to hide or seek
a safe haven. I wonder if they go after illegal aliens from other
countries like the far east, and Europe. Or just Latinos and
Muslims?

Trump threatens California  and other states for not following his 
unconstitutional orders. "California is out of control." was a statement
by our new president. If he has a problem with a state. Let him go to
court and prove it.

This will just add to Trumps problems. These actions may be
legal, but doing it this way is thoughtless as many children
will end up seperated from their parents.

Trumps security adviser has been accused of collaborating with
Russia to help Trumps election. Even to interfere with
Obama's sanctions due to the hacking. Flynn is claiming he
can't remember what he did. Before he said he didn't do it.
Trump is trying to say it's Fake news.

GOP
Now I wonder if the GOP will investigate this. They haven't
seemed to worry about other possible illegal or unconstitutional
activities by Trump and his people.

Our politicans continue trying to avoid groups of voters asking 
them questions about how they plan to vote and why. These groups
number from a handful to several hundred.

As time passes I think our politicans will realize time is
running out for them to vote and then make excuses for why
they voted to hurt those they might need in 2018 if they
want to stay in office.

Trump continues to harp that there was huge numbers of illegal
votes for Clinton during the election. I think this is part of
a GOP plan to restrict voting even more using Trumps claims as
an excuse to do so. There is no evidence of illegal voting, but
Trump continues saying there is. Trump lies all the time so
why believe anything he says without proof.

Now the new attorney general (A GOP favorite of the extreme right ) says 
he is going after voter fraud, protesters, gays, and minorities that cause 
trouble, with all the power of the US Justest department. I have a hunch many 
people will feel it's more like the injustice department after while.

I know people will try to protest Trumps justice, but they will have
more success in the courts and voting booth than in the streets.
Trump will use all the force needed  to combat unruly crowds. 
Perhaps even enough to finish his rule in the end.

I wonder how long Trump will last before he runs out into
the night screaming "I quit".. LOL.. I understand he is 
becoming very frustrated by protesters, news leaks and how
much work he is having to do.

Trump is keeping Airforce One busy. It's his second trip to 
Florida. Once last weekend and now this weekend. I guess he 
is entertaining the prime minister of Japan at his Florida 
mansion and golf course. Instead of spending millions of Tax
dollars going to his home in Florida why not stay in DC.  As usual 
Trump just has to show off to important people. Many many poor
children could have more to eat with the money Trump is
wasting with his running around.

Unfortuantly Trump isn't alone. Almost all rich people in government
are spoiled, and feel they have the right to use tax dollars for their
own benifit. Of course they don't talk about that to their voters.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 12, 2017, 12:08:45 pm
Trump
North Korea launched a large missile into the ocean perhaps to test Trump.
His only response was to say. "We are 100% behind Japan.  A obvious
answer since we have been behind Japan since ww2. We will have to
wait to see if he has anything more to say.

His policy adviser was questioned this morning on "Meet the Press". It was
hard to follow as as usual Trumps people and politicians want to make
speeches every time they see a camera.

He was asked if Trump thought just being in the USA illegally was enough of
a law breaker to be removed from the country. He wouldn't answer the
question. So we don't know what the accual line is as he kept changing
the subject by saying illegal aliens are dangerous people. I have news for
Trump. Drug dealers and gang members know how to stay out of sight, so
the people who are causht generally are people who just want to work and
have a safe life, not hurt other people.

I personally feel if someone has lived in the USA for 5-10 years or more contributing
to society and not causing trouble by breaking our laws and hurting people. They
should be given the chance to apply for citizenship. If they agree they shouldn't
be deported.

Trump is still trying to avoid the idea that  Flynn talked to the Russa about Obanas
Policies. Strange actions for a national security adviser.

We have to wonder if Trump and the VP knew the truth or did Flynn do it alone?
Either way it puts a shadow over Trump and his people.

When Kelly basicly advertised for Trumps daughters business she found that unlike
Trump she can't publicly support businesses as a government worker. I imagine
Trump gave her a nod for trying.



GOP
Will our friendly congressmen and women stand up for the country or follow Trump.
to the extreme right. Hopefully some will draw the line at some point. I understand
many of the GOP find Trump a problem, but are afraiid of his supporters.  I think
they need to be afraid of those who are protesting instead. I imagine those running
for office in 2018 are worried because they don't know who to follow.

Dem
I think it's nice Obama is enjoying his time relaxing after many years of hard work. I 
hope he can help the democrats get back to the people who supported the party in
the past. Working people, and Unions were the strength of the party, not the rich.

In a way its sad that the super rich really run the country even though the public
elects the politicans. It's true, I remember when Bill Clinton decided to run for president
he had to pass muster of a group of the richest elite behind the democrat party.

I sometimes wonder why I haven't heard of this since. Perhaps the rich people didn't
know this was to be told, and have taken steps to keep it under the radar since.

The super rich have a big stake in how the laws of the country affect them, and protect
them. Even with their riches they have to depend on the power of a country to protect
their way of life and they will do anything to keep it.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 13, 2017, 12:13:13 pm
Trump
Canada's prime minister meets with Trump.  Trump says he wants
to change the trade agreement with Canada. It's probably a good
idea as it's been over 20 years and many things have changed over
the years. Trump best be careful as Canada is a very good friend and
trading partner for the USA all around the world.

Trump is planning to sign a new order to possibly fix his travel ban. Who 
knows if it will be any better. I really don't understand why he is making
such a fuss. Obama wasn't making a big stink about it, and people from
other countries were checked out well. The attacks we had under Obama
were almost all from people born and raised right here in the US.

Health care
Canada is giving better care for less money. They do more preventative care
than the US does. Our politicans should look at Canada to improve health
care in the US. The cost per person averages 47% less in Canada. Some claim you
have to wait for care, but that is only for elective care. More people die in the US
than Candians do to lack of care. Everyone is cared for rich or poor. I am sure
there are instances where people feel they didn't get the care they need, but its
more likely to happen in the US than Canada or many other countries.

It seems it's profit first and care second in the US. I am not placing blaim
on our health care workers, but those politicans who care more about the
relection money they get from the rich than health care for all americans.

Trump was caught discussing security information on N. Korea in front of
people who likely didn't have clearance to hear it. He jumped all over Clinton
for not being careful with security matters, what's his excuse?

Today there are large demonstrations happening in Wisconsin against  Trump
and his travel ban. More are planned across the country. People best work
to change local state canidates in 2018 if they want to make real changes. It's
the GOP controlled states who decide how to set up voting districts for congress.
In 2020 they will be changing them again. If the GOP is in power in your state.
They will set the districts to favor themselves.  I don't think either party should
be allowed to set districts, They should be set to balance voters for all concerns
as even as possible.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 14, 2017, 01:00:31 pm
Trump
I hear our man Trump canceled another one of his ralles. I
guess he was afraid there would be more protesters
than supporters. Maybe he is allergic to "Boooos"

His security adviser Flynn resigns. He should have left
sooner. It may be too late now as questions will be asked
if Trump told Flynn to tell the Russian ambassador the
sanctions would be taken care of once Trump takes office.
Trump has said he makes all the decisions so if one of his
men did something it's very likely it was Trumps design.

I wonder if Flynn is found to be guilty of breaking the
law, will Trump Pardon him? He might, but probably not
a good idea.

I think if Trump would get rid of Bannon too, his probelms
would become less. Only time will tell.

I understand the GOP is finding it more difficult to stand behind
Trump. More of them are speaking out against him and his people.
I wonder how long the GOP can avoid starting investigations on
Trumps activities. Some of which really should be since they have
little or nothing to do with partisan politics.

Trump makes claims he supports women, but Trump has a history
of treating women with little respect. They have to fit his
ideal of how women should look or act to get any favor from
him. He has only 2 women in his cabinet.

Trump gets his pick for secretary of health, and human
services. A smart man to hear Trump talk, I heard he
recieved 250 million to take the job. I guess that could
be considered pretty smart of him.

Trump plans another trip to Florida. Apparently he has gone
so often the secret sevice is saving money by keeping the
infrastructure in place. So that keeps the costs significatly
lower. Only 3 million dollars for the round trip. Stil they
have to fly 2 or 3 Airforce one planes. That requires fuel
and maintenance and man power. Trump used to complain about
Obama spending money to go on a vacation. Obama stayed in
Washington DC most of the time, and went to Camp David for
a weekend of rest now and then. That was just a short helicopter
ride away.

Just more hypocrisy by our man Trump. He also doubled the
membership fees for his club in Florida to %200,000.00 a
year. I guess Rich people feel it's worth it to have the
chance to talk to Trump.

Trump is using his office to make a lot of money. I guess
we should expect it, Most Billionaires acording to Trump are
very smart. As I said before, Trump loves money, and those
who have money. Just look at people around him, almost all of
them are Billionaires. People who will step on the common man
to get what they want.

I hear Trump is having problems finding people he wants for
heads of agencies. Apparently due to all the problems and
iradic behavior of Trump. Perhaps most of his friends are too
smart to get involved with him.

Billionaires may be smart, but they carry a lot of baggage
with them. Many of them do things that would get most of us
put in prison, but they have the best lawyers, and manage
to wiggle free in most cases. Trump is no exception. I think
he will have a lot of problems having his super rich friends
working with him. They all like to run the show, and some could
cause trouble by being loose cannons.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 15, 2017, 12:04:40 pm
Trump
As smart as our man Trump claims to be, I kind of
wonder if Trump is smart enough to know he should ask
for help. Help from more than one person, non parisan experts in
the affected field to compare with each. This idea of his that only
rich people are smartis going cause him nothing but trouble.  Trump
is said to not like reading, instead he  watches TV. He should be 
talking to experts not listening to some one on TV who may or may 
not know anything or just being political.

Trump needs to remember he is working for the whole country,
not just those who voted for him. This business of only wanting
to please his supporters is wrong. He unlike congress should
be non political. His business is working for us all, not his
friends and politics.

Our man Trump knew that Flynn was at risk for being
blackmailed by the Russians three weeks ago.Why did
Trump wait all this time to tell him to go? Over the
past three weeks Flynn had access to security secrets.
Perhaps even names of people who are putting their lives
on the line to spy on Russia and other countries that
don't like us. There are many who would love to see
the USA disappear into history.

Flynn may be the one behind Trumps kindly feel for
Russia. As he has been to Rusaia a couple years ago.
Where he spent time with Putin.

GOP
Our friendly GOP leadership feels there is no reason
to investigate Trump, his security adviser Flynn or
any one else.

They claim they are too busy to investigate wither
the president or his people were involved with
russia before the election and or after. They say it's
the business of their security hearings if they do. I
have a hunch they don't want a public investigation
on this at all.

I imagine if you let a fox guard a henhouse you probably
wouldn't want to tell those who owned the chickens where 
they they went, and why they didn't take their feathers.

The GOP man who was appointed as atterney general worked
in Trumps campain. So I really don't think he will do a good
job or want to investigate his self or those who were involved in 
Trumps campain concerning the Russian connection.  So far he hasn't
disqualified his self, and he should.

I can just about guarentee the GOP would be falling
all over them selves investigaineing Clinton if
she had been accused of this as president. This
has nothing to do with politics. It is about the
safety and integrity of our country. The GOP
should be ashamed for being political at this time.
There will be more than enough time to pass laws
for their ideals at a later date. I think they want to
pass their far right laws now with over a year before
the 2018 election. They know most voters have a short
memory, at least they used to. That might have
changed though.

If the public lets them get by with not doing
their job, where will it stop. I fear many people
will find their rights gone unless they are a white
male, and not gay. or anything ofther what some
religious people think is natural.

I heard they made some rule changes about how
people are quarantined due to sickness. Now this
sounds good on the surface, but they are even saying
if people have symptoms similar to the desase they
are concerned about quarantine them too. This is another
fear tactic. Some desease can take weeks to surface
after someone has been exoised to it. They would have
to quarantine entire cities to stop some diseases. I am
not sure Trump had anything to  do with this, but it's likely
one of his picks did.

There is nothing wrong with being carful, but a balance
is needed to prevent the abuse of human rights.

Dem
If the democrats don't get busy, and start working to
put good people up to run for congress who will.Perhaps
some independents can.. Other wise the GOP will hold
power.

If we leave it up to the billionaire class this country
will continue moving to an authoritarian system of
government.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 16, 2017, 12:24:42 pm
Trump
Our man Trump still defends Flynn claiming the media and
illegal leaks caused the problems. I find this a shameful way
for Trump to defend anyone. If someone makes a serious mistake
it's better to find it out no matter who exposes it.

The cabinet pick for labor secretary was withdrawn today.
Due to some things he did in the past. There may be others who
may meet the same fate eventually. People who have a lot of
money are hard driving individuals. They work long hours
making the money they love. So they tend to be short tempered
if they feel their money or reputation is at stake. This often
causes them to do things if brought to light can disqualify
them to be leaders of government.

Of course many of them have powerful friends that can make
life difficult for anyone they want revenge on. This can make
it hard to expose them as people fear what these people can do.

I think we have noticed that Trump wants to sue people who
accuse him of doing bad things. Like the women who made claims
about him. So he like most of the super rich are ready to give
regular people problems if they get in the way.

Usually when we think of criminals we think of some poor slob
or punk wanting something they don't want to work for. Turns 
out those you wouldn't imagine do bad thing too. Rich people 
are subject to human nature as poor people are. Perhaps even
worse because they have the money to really hurt a lot of 
people when they get dollar signs in their eyes.

GOP
Seems more of the GOP are speaking out against Trump, and
his people. Hopefully more will find the courage to do so. Some
might feel this Russian thing is trivial, but our way of life
could be threatened with things like this. I hope those in
the GOP find their patriotism over politics.


Demonstrations are still going strong across the country. Sp 
perhaps some GOP congressmen are getting the message, and
feel they better listen a bit closer. I hope the democrats
get the message too..

Trumps plan to rid our country of immigrants continues with
hundreds of deportations. Even those with minor offenses.
I think the Statue of Liberty that stands in New York 
harbor would be crying if it could. At the base is a plaque that
reads.  "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses
yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming 
shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift
my lamp beside the golden door!"

Almost all of us who live in the USA are immigrants or
descendants of them. Even Trump. Instead of kicking good hard 
working men and women out, offer them the option to become
citizens instead. Many of our best americans were and are
immigrants. 
 

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 17, 2017, 12:21:27 pm
Trump
Our tweeting president had a long news congerence today, with lots of
lies, and bragging as usual. Probably trying to divert attention about
his failure with security adviser General Flynn and connected troubles.

Twittering Trump claims his Travel ban was perfect till the
bad courts messed it up. He claimed a congressman wanted to have
a meeting, and lied saying the congressman backed out. He asked
a news reporter set up a meeting with him and the congressional
Black caucus. This would be impossible for a news reporter to do.
Trump called the news leaks by people in government are fake news.
Does Trump feel everyone in government lies but him? It sounds like
it.

Our twitter man continues to say he is smarter and better than anyone
else. How can a egotistical man ever do a good job as president. A job
that requires the expertise of thousands of people he needs who I am sure
know their job much better than he does.

Trump doesn't like it when people ask him about being racist or our anti
somatic problems. The question wasn't about him personally anyway. It
was about the rise of  anti somatic activities in the country. But he
is so thin skinned he doesn't listen to the question enough to understand
it. He doesn't like having his administration said to be in chaos.
Instead he claims it's running like a fine tuned machine. Of course
all these things that are said by the press is fake news according
to Trump. Unless it's something he likes.

It's understandable that a politican wouldn't like the pres because
they are a light that shines to hold them accountable. Trump isn't
the first politiican who has hated the press, and he won't be the
last.

Trump claims he has done more in the last month than any president since
Reagan. He hasn't accomplised anything except sign some executive orders
one of which was a travel band that has been shut down by the courts.
Trump had several bankruptcies. Perhaps we can understand why after
only a few weeks of him trying to be president. No one can succeed alone
as president, no matter what Trump claims. When Trump is caught in
an obvious lie he sometimes backs up and blaims  someone else by saying
 "That's what I was told."

GOP
We may see movement from Congress soon with or without Trumps help.
They will likely lay a bill on his desk for him to sign or not. Trump needs to
get on the stick and start working with congress instead of just talking
and tweeting. That is if he plans to get anything he can put his name on.

I really don't mind how long they drag it out.The closer we get to the 2018
election the more politicans will listen to the voters.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 18, 2017, 11:53:44 am
Trump
His pick for the EPA was approved by the GOP, A man who
has sued the EPA several times to help big industry in
his state. I have a hunch this guy doesn't live near a
fraking rig or pipeline. Few people if any who are rich
do. Obviously they can live where they want, but how can
they make decisions on thing they have no experience with.

The approval of this man is more proof that the GOP cares
more about big business than the health of the american
people.

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/the-man-who-ll-head-up-the-epa-827504707659 (http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/the-man-who-ll-head-up-the-epa-827504707659)


Trump and his family are running up high costs for the tax
payer.
Here is link to a page that shows how much our jet setting president is
costing american tax payers. It's more than just trips to florida.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/trumps-florida-trips-cost-taxpayer-money.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/trumps-florida-trips-cost-taxpayer-money.html)

Trump is used to traveling at the drop of a hat and now he
thinks the tax payer should support his disire to be on the
move. Odd he used to complain about Obama spending money for
his travels. Saying Obama should stay in the White house.

Trump seems to still be in campaign mode. He seems to crave adoring
crowds. I am thinking those crowds will be harder to find as time
passes.. Also he should refund the Tax payer when he makes one of
these stops that masasges his ego.

I Get most of my info at these links.

http://www.msnbc.com/ (http://www.msnbc.com/)

http://www.politico.com/ (http://www.politico.com/)



GOP
Many of our friendly GOP congress members seem to be hard to find these
days. Are they afraid to tell peple in their district why they are
supporting Trump?  I would think they would be happy to stand up for
the twitter man.

Many conservatives in the GOP are saying these immigrates are here
illegally, Why shouldn't they be kick them out. I would answer them by
saying if you had went to the trouble to pick them up with a few days or
even months of their entry fine, but to let them stay for 10-20 years or more
then decide to enforce the law. I think that is just politics and not worrying
about law breaking.  If they are caught being a danger to the public, export
those that are. After all they would be in custody and ready to go.

Also many immigrants have been allowed to work here for the benifit of big
business, and the politicans have known this for many years and little if
anything has been done to stop it.

Trumps plan will cost the nation billions to catch 11 million not counting the
economic loss due to many providing needed services.

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/rep-castro-trump-admin-coming-for-undocumented-immigrants-880002627838 (http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/rep-castro-trump-admin-coming-for-undocumented-immigrants-880002627838)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 19, 2017, 01:34:19 pm
Trump
He is still telling us how big his win was. How big his
electorial win was. Even bigger than any president got since 
Reagon. Well he best study the real facts as Bill clinton 
got more both times he was elected, and Bush got more once.
The media interviewed few of his supporters. Some traveled 
hundreds of miles to see him. I hardly think the average
supporter has the time or money to travel that far. I would 
say most that do are activists. You could tell by listening
they were strong supporters. 

Trump often hurts his self by talking about things like
his winning, how smart he is, or bad press instead of 
just doing his job. It's like he doesn't know how to
quit running for the office he won. In a couple years
or so he can start politicing again, but the best way
to win in 2020 is by doing a good job.

Our twitter man Trump falls back on fake facts when
he doesn't have a good answer for a question. I did 
hear he paid for the florida ralley he had. I believe
out of his war chest for the nxe election. I was concerned
that he would use tax dollars. So my hats off to him over 
that.

Trump claims the media is the enemy of the american people.
He should know lies generally require more lies to cover them.
So the last thing the major media would want is loosing the
trust of the people. Putting out the facts is how they
make money.

Talk radio is the worst because they say what ever their
audience wants to hear. If they didn't they would end up
without an audience or money either. So talk radio is mainly
for entertainment, and a outlet for the coffee shop politican
to call in and complain or brag on their man.

Trump is trying to do the same thing as talk radio does. Tell
people what they want to hear, and deny what they don't. Blaim
the major media for his problems. Then in a ralley he gives a
few of his followers a place on stage to
make them feel like he cares.

People are saying Trump needs to lead the country out of the
division we are in. The trouble is Trump doesn't seem to know how to
lead. He is a "Pusher" not a "Leader". In business you have
to push push push to get things done. Trump may get his shoes
dirty when starting one of his buildings, but then he turns it
over to the general contractors because he has little or no
idea how to do the accual building. So he pushes the contractors
to get it done. I have seen people like Trump out on jobs. They
stand around talking to the General contractors who is the real 
leader of the operation. They ask can you get this done by such 
and such a date, or can you change this. Or I want this changed.

Most contractors hate to see people like Trump show up, because 
they act like they know everything, but just cause problems 
instead by asking for the impssible.  Trump hasn't hired people
fo most government agencies as of yet. They are the General
contractors of government. So get with it Trump.

Trump may never figgure out that he can't run our government
like a business, I have a feeling even many of his supporters
will eventually see through Trumps fake claims.

The american people are not stupid. Many look to Trump to improve
their lives, but if he and the GOP start hurting too many people
they will pay in 2018. Even the GOP's fancy voting districts may
not keep them im office.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 21, 2017, 01:01:49 pm
Trump
Our man Trump finally found a new security adviser. This one however isn't likely to be a yes man
for Trump. He appears to be more interested on our country than politics. Only Time will tell.

Trump is working on a new Travel ban. It may have to pass jugdement by the courts. But
perhaps he is taking his time to do it right this time.

The 25th amendmant of our Constitution allows the VP and cabinet to take power if they
feel the President is incapable of doing the job.. I kind of think Trump would start firing
his cabinet if he caught wind of something like that.. There apparently is a fair amount of
discontent among his people in the White House. So time will tell.

GOP
Our friendly GOP has a bill in congress to make abortions of any kind illegal. Even for
Rape, incest, or even to save the life of the mother.. The law would call a woman a
vessel for man to use to create a child. Thus removing any right of the womens
control of her body in that respect. The man would decide under the law if an
abortion was really needed.

This would be in effect from the point of conception, and to even outlaw
contraceptives or any protection. Seems our religious friends feel the act
should only for reproduction and anything else is wrong or sinful. They
should know you can't regulate sex even with pain of death.

I am not in favor of abortion to choose the sex of a child or due to inconvenience,
but this is going too far in my opinion. This will only harm women and will cause
the need for more abortions not less or none. Women died going to back alley
clinics and even doing it them selves, before it was legal.

Our friendly GOP congressmen and women are finding large groups of voters
are still showing up for townhall meetings. Some are even hiding from their
voters. If this continues I am sure GOP billionaires will start pouring money
into advertising trying to keep the GOP in power. I have already seen ads on
TV asking people to support Trumps picks.

This is a good sign people are starting to have an effect with their
demonstrations.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 22, 2017, 11:31:21 am
Trump
Our man Trump talked about how much debt our country has. Now he wants
to spend billions on defense, infrastructure, immigration deportation, and
a big wall  that will add over a couple Trillion dollars to the debt, and does he
advocate a way to pay for it? NO, in fact he is wanting to reduce taxes for
the richest people who have so much money they have trouble speding it
legally.

Our man Trump finally said the anti somatic ativities around the nation
are terrible, but he didn't say."I am fully against it, and I don't want any
thing to do with those who do., and I will have the attorney general go
after them as terrorists." I think he is afraid he might loose some
of his racist and anti somatic supporters who voted for him.

The far right doesn't like Jews, Moslims, LGBT community, women rights,
hispanics, and minorities. Trump has to say he isn't a racist or
anti somatic, but he is slow to bad mouth those who are.

Now investigations are starting about the possibiliy that Trump
and his people are involved with Russia and their war in Urcrane. It
appears there was investments into the gas and oil industry there. Only
time will tell. The new atternory general was part of Trumps campaign
fromt the beginning, so he has no business telling the Justice
department who or what to investigate. He should excuse his self,
but so far he hasn't.

The Trump admnistration is wanting to return to privately owned prisons.
Obama was trying to move away from them.

GOP
Our friendly GOP congress men and women are slowly starting to
oppose Trump on a few things. Some of course will never oppose
him.

The GOP leader of the senate commented to a group of voters in
effect.  "Winners make policy, and loosers should go home."  Perhaps
that is how he thinks it should work, but if the winners step on the
loosers needs they will likely be the loosers next time.

They made up all kinds of misleading stories trying to stop the ACA
in 2009, but now those same people are having to defend the claims
they made, because many people have insurance that could'nt afford
it before, and don't want to loose it. So Congress will have to
fix it or they may find themselves wihtout a job in 2019.

The excuse has been made that those who fail to get insurance shouldn't
be able to buy it if they wait till they get sick. Now this may lbe good reasoning
on the surface, but a lot of people get heath insurance through their employer.
So what happens if they develop a health problem while they have insurance.
Then get fired, or the company goes out of business, and loose the coverage?

Oh not much, now they need insurance and can't get it if the GOP controlled Congress
has their way.  There are many ways a person could get caught sick without insurance.
Comparing  health coverage with insurance for your home or car is a poor example.
Personally I think coverage for health should be guaranteed like it is most of the civilized
world.  Health care should be for all. Not just for those who can afford it.

Our friendly GOP controlled congress sees to it they are covered 100 percent. So why
not us? If they think it would cost too much then let them pay for theirs too. After all
most of them are multimillionaires.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 23, 2017, 11:55:27 am
Trump starts his second month in office.
Not much to say about our man Trump. I do think he needs
to forget about twitter, and do his job. He still has hundreds
of people to nominate for the senate to vote on. Hundreds to 
fill jobs so the government can continue to operate.
 
Seems Trump isn't aware he is the president of all the people
not just those who voted for him.

Our new atterney general has shown his position on the LGBT
community. He has removed the order to schools to follow
Obamas order for schools to protect the rights of transgender
children and their needs. Technically the protection exists
yet, but he isn't enforcing it. I don't think he plans to either.

GOP
Our friendly house and senate members are playing hard to find
unless its to see a hand picked group that might be willing to give
them money. Those that do show up to talk to the voters are getting
an earful. They listen, but have  little to say other than they will have
their staff look into it. A common dodge by politicans.

As long as those who support Trump continue to do so our GOP
Congress will want to avoid their voters asking questions they
don't want to answer. Trump is trying to claim the protesters are 
hired activists out to stop him from doing what the voters want
him to do. Just more of Trumps fantasies, because he thinks he
won sooo big..

Many people are afraid of loosing their health care, and the GOP
only makes dumb excuses. Like "Oh people should get a job so they
can get good insurance. Or you shouldn't wait till your sick to
buy insurance."  All good ideas in theory, but a lot of people
don't have a job that pays more than minimum wage, and they are 
not going to get good insurance and feed them selves much less a
family with that kind of money.

What about people who are born with health problems. How could
they buy insurance before they got sick? What about people who loose 
a job, and without money the insurance companies will drop them due
to not paying the premiums.  Then if they had health issues they can't
get reinstated even if they are willing to catch up on the premiums
after getting a new job. I had that happen to me. The GOP used to
claim the ACA had death panels. Well I kind of think it's the GOP
who is the death panel for the working poor.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 24, 2017, 12:14:32 pm
Trumps white house
It has been reported the chief of staff in the white house asked the
FBI to knock down the validity of the russian connection with Trumps
campaign publicly. Since Trump says nothing happens without his approval.
Is he trying to block something we need to know about?

It has been reported Six people were fired for failing to pass background
checks by the FBI. Makes one wonder who Trump is hiring. Trump is very
smart (at least so he claims) so it's likely he knew them pretty  well when
they were hired. I don't think they should have even been in the White
house till they passed the checks. But they were there. They were all
removed the same day.

I wonder how many times the public and congress will allow Trump to say
"Oops I made a mistake" as an excuse.

The GOP and Trump continue to call the demonstrations against congress
a plan by paid activiests to stop him. He just can't accept the fact he lost
the popular vote. Hand to be millions of people illegally voting for Clinton.
Of course the GOP doesn't want to mention the Tea Party movment was
mostly started and supported by big business billionaires. This movement
is grass roots in spite of Trump and the GOPs claims.

Several doctors feel Trump has mental issues that could affect his ability
to see reality. To think something exists when it does not, and should be
removed from office. What  if he decided we were under attack. Would
others stop him, or would he be allowed to order a retaliatory attack. I
think the vice president should relieve  Trump of his power untill Trump
could be clinicly checked. The constitution allows this with the cabinets
help. I think most of us have noticed Trump  being strange in his actions
and speaking. Saying one thing then turning  around a few minutes later
saying the oposite. Even to claim he didn't. I am sure he would be very
put out if he was removed from power, even temporaroly, but when wars
can be started at the push of a button we should be very cautious.

I fear the VP and cabinet are more afraid of Trumps retaliation on them
if it failed to show he had a problem, than protecting the country or
the world. You know Trump (who claims to be the smartest, healthiest,
and best man of all time.) would want to choose his own doctor.

Even our allies are worried. They asked the VP who was really in charge.
I hope Trump doesn't get us or the world in a war we all will regret. At
least those of us who are still alive.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 25, 2017, 11:41:57 am
Trump
Our man Trump is going out of it's way trying to get
the FBI, Congress, and other securty agancies to play
down the Russian Connection with  the Trump campaign. 
Have them contact the press and say there is little or nothing
to it.

Why does Trump want to hide or prevent investigations about
him and Russia? Why not open it up, and clear the air so it
can be put behind him. Instead they just want to say it's
nothing and we shouldn't worry about it. This just adds
suspision to the whole thing.

Trump continues to lie. No surprise there. He was making
a speech in front of conservatives, and made a cliam there
were people lined up for six blocks outside. There wasn't
even a block or line of people at all. Just a group of
protesters across the streat. Trump needs to get off
this ego trip and get down to doing his job.

Now he is telling government security agencies to find a
good reason to keep poeple from the 7 Islomic countries
from traveling to the USA. He has already heard there
is little risk from traveling from these countries.

Trump is calling the major news outlets an enemey to the people.
So is this going to be an excuse for Trump to not let the major
press in on his news briefings?  He did that only letting in reporters
who show him in a favorable light. The only news he wants people
to see. If it makes him look bad it's fake news. Is this ego or is
he wanting to hide improper activites from the public?

The pundants and media have been dancing around it, but Trump is
an authoritarian. They may not want to make that next step, but
a person who is that way is a Fascist. I first heard it used to describe
Trumps actions today. His supporters may not want to believe it, but
it's a very small step from what Trump is doing now to one of Fascism.
It's a strong word, but accurate for someone who wants control beyond
law and the contitution of a democracy. Perhaps Trump doesn't mean to
be that way but the far right with it's extremist ideals may be willing to
push Trump in that direction. He should dump Bannon like a hot potato,
along with the Atterney General he picked.

GOP
I wonder how far Trump can go before Congress has spine
enough to hold Trump accountable to the constitutions and
the law?

Our friendly GOP congress and senate members are claiming
the people coming to town hall meetings are paid to be
there. Up to $500.00 each. I kind of thhink if that was
the case they could find the money trail.

The GOP may think they are being smart calling these people
paid demonstrators, but I think it's is going to backfire on
them. People don't like being called liers in the real world.

Dem
I haven't said much about the democrats lately. They are voting
against Trumps picks more. I hope they work to get more people
running for state government. Otherwise the GOP will hold power
in the federal goverment, becuse states can make it harder for
people to vote. Especially those who might not vote the right way.
Polictical partys tend to do bad things trying to stay in power.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 26, 2017, 12:19:55 pm
Trump
I heard Trump say in effect. "It doesn't bother me if someone doesn't
like me. Or say something bad about me." Now that is a laugh. He spends
a lot of time defending his self than much  else. During his campaign
he spent the better part of a week defending what he seid about a beauty
contest winner. Trump has the thinkist skin of a president since Nixon.

Trump is more like someone playing the part of being president in a virtual
reality show than someone who really trying to be a good presidnt. He
continues  to only speak to those voted for him insteaad of us all. He
doesn't seem to understand a president is for all the people not for party
politics alone.

Our man Trump, a president over a house of chaos, or is it a lot of
hot air by the media? Trump seems to be tripping over his own feet. The
best way to get rid of bad news is to lay out all the facts. No lie trying to
blaim it on leaks and the press.  I think his war on the press is going to
get old even to his supporters if he continues doing it for months.

GOP
The GOP continues to support Trump by saying it's too early to have
a special prosecutor. With a atterney generals connections to Trump
he has no business with the investigation. Someone who could bury
important data if it protected his career or the Trump administration.

Also a special prosecutor would take the politics out of it along with
the Congress. That way they could just say it's out of our hands.  As is
they are caught up in it as well.

Will the GOP in congress listen to the votors in their districs, or
the leaders of the party? Many of them got a earful at home over the
past week. I think most of them are too ariogant and think they know
what's best, and how much money they can get for their next election
cycle.. Also they tend to believe the demonstrations are paid 
activies for the most part. I think most will only be changed by how
voters treat them in the voting booth.

The GOP always claims the private sector is the best for virtually everything
except for defense and a few agencies like Tax collection, Treasury, and
other things that affect the people as a whole. Problem I see is anytime
you allow the private sector handle things people "Need". People in business
see dollar signs. When people need something they will pay about any price
to get it. Remember $5 gal gasoline? The $20 pills that went to $750.00. If
people need it they will do what they have to  to get it.  This destroys the i
dea of letting the market control the prices. If it's things people only want
then the free market works well. Seems those in the GOP want to ignore
this, and continue pushing to privatise things people really need.

Dem
The democrats elected Tom Perez chairman for the party. I hope he knows
how speak  to the center of the country. If not the democrates may have a
tough time in 2018.

Link to a video about the Democrate election of their Chairman.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/dnc-selects-tom-perez-as-new-chair-884928579885 (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/dnc-selects-tom-perez-as-new-chair-884928579885)




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 27, 2017, 12:17:38 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is going to speak to the legislature Feb 28th
at 9 pm eastern. It will be interesting to see how often
he lies and talks about how big he won the election over
Clinton in spite of illegal voting. I understand he is going
to brag about how much he has done over the last 5 weeks. Well
other than making it harder for people to get home loans, exporting
people who have a right to be in the country, making life harder
for Transgender people, and over 10 million in travel expenses to
Florida. I don't think his administration has done much at all.

He will claim he created lots of jobs, but out of over 150,000 created
in January 2017 he was probably responsible for about 20,000 at the
most, and many of them had more help from Obama than him.

"Meet the Press" asked the Trump administration if they had
someone to send over for an interview. All they offered was
their deputy press secretary. So the program said no thanks
and had a GOP senator from Arkansaw instead. A man who was
bought and paid for by GOP billionaires in 2012.

When asked about how he felt about the large group of voters
who met him last week asking him about their health care. He
basically said he promised to get rid of the ACA when elected,
along with other things. So he didn't really care if they
liked it or not. I guess he doesn't care if people can afford
insurance or not. He did say he would support Medicaid..I got
news for him the working poor are rarely eligible for medicaid.

In Missouri you can't have more than $1000.00 on hand to be eligible.
These days that is barely enough to keep the bills paid for a month
or two. In cities rent alone can run more than that for a month.

I wonder how many of the GOP in congress feel the same way about
the demonstrators. If so they may loose their next election.

There are a lot of good people who claim the GOP for their party, but
the leadership needs to move back from the far right. It's easy to see
someone who is fat paying for food with food stamps and feel they are
lazy leeches on society. But looks is often deceiving. Seems our
friendly GOP likes to point to people who appear to be parasites as
an excuse to cut federal programs for the poor. People do cheat the
system, but I think it owuld be better to make the program so it incurages
those on aid to get off it. When people on federal aid live better than
you can on minimum wages, how can we expect them to work.

Thats why minimum wage needs to be raised. Our new labor secretary doesn't
want that , and isn't even wanting to support higher pay for overtime.

With people like this I find it hard to understand why people still support
the GOP and Trump. The world is changing, and people have to change with it
or they are going to loose out. Manufacturing is moving towared full automation.
This means fewer manufacturing jobs now and in the future. No matter which
party is in power. People need education and training to do the jobs of the
future, not empty promises from big mouthed politicians like Trump. Yes he
is a politician now even though he may not have been one to start with.

Dem
People are asking if the democrats are going to say no to everything Trump
wants. Just like the GOP did with Obama. They said they would support ideas
from the GOP and Trump if they were realistic, and helped the country as a
whole. Not only for Trumps supporters as he implies in his speeches.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 28, 2017, 01:02:04 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is working to discredit anyone or even government
agencies if they say anything that makes it look like had any
connection to Russia. The FBI, CIA, and the Media to name a
few. Even congressmen who are wanting a special prosecuter and
a non partisa commission. This smacks of a cover up no matter
what Trump or the GOP says.

What is the GOP trying to hide. They are claiming there isn't
any evidence of a Russian connection before they even start an
investigation. Trump made a statement he hadn't called Russia
for 10 years. Even though he ran a beauty contest there just a
few years ago. So why did Trump try to say he hadn't been there
even though there is solid proof he was?

After years of unwarranted investigations of Clinton and Obama
the GOP shys away from looking at Trump. Claiming it's a waste
of our time.

Appears the GOP is scared they will loose their chance to pass
tax cuts for rich businessmen and get rid of the ACA. If
Trump is removed from office first. They sure  don't want it
dragged out till next year when they are facing re election.

If Trump wants credibility then lay everything out in the open.
Including his tax returns. He says there is no connection so
prove it. He has lied too much to just take his word.

Trump called for streat rallies across the nation over the weekend,
but it was rather lacking. Only hundreds in total accross the nation 
showed up versus the 3 million protexting Trump the day after his
inauguration. To be fair Trump didn't give them much time to plan.
Guess his supporters are like him in that they figured so many would
show up they didn't need to.

Trump continues to bring in his billionaire friends. They might find
them selves caught up in a big scandle with Trump. Some of them are
friends of Russian oligarchs. Now isn't that interesting. Could it be
Putins interest in Trump is trying to find out where Russian money is
going?

Billionaires have friends around the world, their activities could
involve anything one could imagine legal or not.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 01, 2017, 11:26:24 am
Trump stays mostly with his written speech. Will he stay with
with what he said or not? Time will tell.

Our man Trump made a speech that should make his supporters
happy.  Well written and well spoken, but Trump is a professional 
speaker. A man who knows how to say what people want to hear. 
Time will  tell how much of it was lies or misleading.talk just to
make us feel good. His speech did sound like it was more for the
country as a whole instead of a campaign style speech. Someone
did do a good job writing it.

Some of what he said was misleading, I can't say they were all lies,
but Trump never likes to admit anything but success. Even if he has
to lie to cover up a mistake in judgment or due to ignorance. I
wonder where the money will come from for all his ideas. He didn't
say much about that except for cuts in government agencies. There
isn't a lot of money to be saved cutting the State department, EPA,
and others. So I think he will have a hard time getting even a GOP
congress to agree. Of course the GOP is always willing to cut funds
in things they believe the private sector can do. Even if saving a dime
costs us a dollar in the end. I fear our space program will feel budget
cuts too. It's one agency the GOP has few problems whittling on. This
is short sighted as other countries will pass us when we should be a
leader in aerospace. People should remember NASA works to make
commercial flying safer for us all.

As I figured Trump did try to take credit for many jobs that were in
work before the election, much less over the last 5 weeks. The economy
is doing better because of Obama not Trump. Let's see how it's doing
by this time next year. Oh the stock market is likely doing better with
promises of lower taxes for the rich investor.

The soldier who died in Trumps raid is a hero who followed orders in
belief he was helping make our country safe..I just wish Trump had
used better judgment.Instead of what appeared to be wanting
to make a quick show trying to prove he will be a strong president.
Personally I think he shouldn't have mentioned the raid at all in a
political setting. Especially how it turned out, and with reports it 
gained little if any information which Trump tried to claim otherwise.
Trump should have taken full responsibility as commander in chief.
Instead he is trying to shift the blame to military mistakes, and Obama.

Trump signed a bill into law that allows people with mental problems
to buy guns. Yet he claims he is trying to make the country safer.

His speech was full of promises and ideas, some are good, but talk
is cheap, so let's see how he walks the talk. We need to remember that
Trump is a actor, a member of the screen actors guild by the way. So
he is very good at being a two faced lying con artist who will tell
voters what they want to hear. It is true when we like someone
we tend to only hear or see what we want to. So it's no wonder his
supporters want to overlook Trumps bad habits.  I wouldn't be so hard
on him if he didn't lie, and was willing to follow the constitution instead 
of his wallet.

Trump only cares about one thing. His self, and he will do anything to
make his self look good. Even to use a widow of a service man trying to
show he cares. Many people know Trump personally and agree that he
is this way. In rare instances he will do a kind thing, but not often and
it's likely just to help his image.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 02, 2017, 12:13:37 pm
Trump
Our man Trump thinks he did a great job with his speech. So he is
delaying his new Travel ban as not to step on the news reports of it.
When Trump first signed the Travel ban he was acting like the
country was at a terrible risk. Perhaps it was only more of his
misleading statements as news reports of his speech are more
important to him than his previously stated risks to the country.
He and the GOP are trying to sweep the Russian connection and
the idea of releasing his tax returns under the rug. They are
hoping it will go away.

Trumps atterney General claimed he didn't talk with the Russians,
but evidence shows he did talk twice to the Russian ambassador.
The question is. Why did he lie?

GOP
The GOP voted against asking for more information from the
Trump campaign about the Russian connection. The white house
was told to save all data and emails related to  it.. Trump made
the claim it was done to protect those in the White House.

Our friendly GOP is hiding their latest ACA replacement plan. I
guess to keep their telephones from lighting up to oppose it.
Personally this cloak and dagger way of trying to keep the public
in the dark will likely backfire on them. The GOP just can't
beleive people need help. They apparenly don't care if people
lay dying in the gutter. So they can cut taxes for their
rich friends that give them money to help them get elected.
I think it will take more than GOP double talk and passing
the buck to get re elected if they take peoples health
coverage away, or make it impossible to renew.

The GOP leaders are just like the guy who in stories used
to kick orphans and old people out into the streets because
they couldn't pay the rent or the mortgage. They will sit
in their fine homes and appartments while the poor are left
to beg from their neighbors. Their rich supporters will
put ads on TV telling everyone how good they are, with 
no mention of their heartless deeds. I wonder how they
can even call them selves religious much less pray
with a clear conscience.

Perhaps like the warning to Scrooge they will only have
their money to carry after they are dead. This is only a story
and no one is asking the rich to give away all their money,
but to only pay a fair share to a country they would  not have
all their riches without.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 03, 2017, 01:07:35 pm
Trump
Our man Trump continues to deny he has any connection to the Russian leader,
or any of his men. If Trump would come clean, reveal his Tax returns, require all
of his people to do the same. Perhaps all this business could be cleared up.

Unless of course he and his campaign is guilty of working with the Russians to win
the election. Or perhaps have done something illegal that Putin is holding over his
head. Either way it must be brought out into the open. His supporters may  want
to ignore this, but the majority of the country wants to know if Trump and his people
are being honest. So far their actions suggests they are not.

Just calling it fake news or lies by the press is not going to help, much less asking
other government agencies to support his claims. It just makes Trump and his
people look more guilty. Of what we don't know for sure. The attorney general
did finally remove himself from the investigation, but did he try to stop others from
investigating or cover evidence before he did? After all he like Flynn were working
for Trump from the beginning. The same people who said "Lock her up" during
Trumps campaign. Rather ironic they would end up looking bad.

GOP
They are still chasing their tails trying to figure out how to get rid of the ACA without
being kicked out of office. Perhaps it will go from Obamacare to Trump care. I just hope
they fix it. We should change to the same kind of health care Canada has. It works better
and is cheaper.

Also they need to stand up and tell Trump he has to get off his ego trip and start doing his
job. Not just talking about how big his win was, the leaks, and how bad the Press is.  Also to clean up the Russian affair so theyall can get to work. As is little is getting done, good or bad.

Dem
They are doing what they can to keep the GOP honest, but the minority party has little
control. I am hearing they are out trying to get more people involved in running for office
and voting.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 04, 2017, 12:23:58 pm
Trump
Our man Trump tries to devert attention from reports about 
him and the Russia. To trying to say some Democratic Senators 
had talked to Russians in 2003. Claiming they should be investigated.
This is typical for Trump wanting to strike back if he feels
attacked. Again Trump should open up with the truth instead of
trying to hide, or cover up a Russian connection, but he just
never wants to back down. I guess he feels it makes him look weak.

Trump tweets Obama put a illegal wire tap at Trumps tower to collect
campaign data. This is just another deversion. The president can't order
a wire tap. That the job of the FBI or CIA. and a court has to approve it.
Any taps would have been for foreign diplomats talking with Trumps people.
Not Trumps campaign data unless it was tied to a foreign intity like Russia.

A Russian oligarchs large passenger plane was seen in the same cities
where Trump was various times in and around Trumps election. This could
just be a coinsidence but suspisous at least. Trump may have been doing
some business with him, or perhaps the oligarch was ferrying some
Russian officials to see Trump or his people.

His atterney general has agreed to seen written aswers to questions
about his visits with the Russians. Guess he is afraid to talk in
a public hearing about his lieing previously. The GOP commmettee General
allowed the AG to just write answers to questions.

The State Department has had press briefings on a regular basis
for years, but since Trump took office they haven't had any.
They are promising to start. One wonders why they are so quiet
after decades of daily briefings.

Trump is pushing to seperate women from their children if they come
to our country to escape political terrorisim. To remove small children
from a mother is a terrible thing to do. Especially for the child. These
people are heartless in their actions, and I think Trump should be ashamed.
This is something one might expect from Putin's Russia not America.

The people are to be imprisoned by private intities who are in the business
of detention. Kids and adults alike. Up to 20,000 beds they say. I wonder if
the GOP wil provide the billions of dollars to do all this?

Seems Trumps supporters don't care if he lies. They seem to think
all politicans lie. That is a poor reason to excuse Trump of his
lies, and the kind of people he is hiring. People who live for their
money, not our country.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 05, 2017, 12:09:50 pm
Trump
Our man Trump is in Florida again. The forth trip since he took
office. He claims he is working. Well why can't he work in
Washington DC. and save the tax payer millions of dollars in
travel.. Not only does it cost the Tax payer it shuts down the local
airport while Trump is there. This costs tens of thousands in lost business
to people that depend on the airport to make a living.  This doesn't count
the cost in police protection, and other losses by the public to support
Trump and his people. So far the Trump administration hasn't reimbursed
any costs to the city or the airport. Just another rich guy stepping on
regular people.

Obama often went to Camp David for weekends. A helicopter trip away.
He accused Obama of traveling all the time. So I think he should
remember that the next time he flies to Florida on the Tax payers tab.
He should also move his family out of Trump Tower in NY which is costing
the government a half million dollars a day to protect. Not counting
the city of New York. Trump doesn't seem to care how much it costs
to do all this unnecessary stuff. I guess he thinks he can continue to
act like a billionaire even though it costs the tax payer a lot. I think a
elected official should have to show good cause to travel at government 
expense, and not just because they don't like the weather.

Trump tweeted that he found his Tower was wire tapped, but has shown
no evidence of it. Now if its true there could be something  illegal going
on with someone in his campaign or a court wouldn't approved it. If it's
not true then he is proving how unqualified he is to be president. A
president must tell the truth to be strong, otherwise he has no credibilty.

I wish Trump would quit tweeting nonsense. This just slows the government
down and makes him look weird. Putin called him a Clown early in his
campaign. It was a mistranslation that Trump thought was a compliment.
I really wish he had stayed on his TV show where he could act smart
without hurting anyone.

GOP
Our friendly GOP continues to support Trump and the people he picked 
for his cabinet. Trump still has almost 2000 people to nominate or appoint
to federal agency offices. Something he should be doing instead of tweeting
and playing Golf on weekends. Someone needs to tell him it's a 24/7 job.
Not some high society thing he and his super rich friends can play with.

I was told by some who voted for Trump because they wanted a man who 
wasn't beholding to anyone. Well it seems Trump is beholding to Russia.
If not why is he trying his best to cover or hide any information about his
people talking to Russia. It makes it look like he owes them something.
Perhaps he did something bad in Russia, I don't know, but all Trump has
to do is lay everything out in the open. This is going to haunt him
throughout his presidency if he doesn't. 

As is our government is not working well, and puts us at risk. Only a
strong government deters a war, a weak one that is unstable actually
invites attack.

The Congress needs to hold Trump accountable, and impeach him if
need be. I know they are scared of loosing their jobs if Trumps supporters
get mad at them, but they should think of our country first not re election.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on March 05, 2017, 07:53:26 pm
Quote
Trump tweeted that he found his Tower was wire tapped, but has shown
no evidence of it. Now if its true there could be something  illegal going
on with someone in his campaign or a court wouldn't approved it. If it's
not true then he is proving how unqualified he is to be president. A
president must tell the truth to be strong, otherwise he has no credibilty.

I'm willing to bet this is a ploy by Trump and his crooked Cabinet cronies to divert the public and Congress's attention away from the Russian investigations.  >:( It's just Trump trying to use any tactic he can, including making up "fake"  :D stories to get what he wants.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 06, 2017, 02:53:31 pm
I agree Kobuk its an deversion, along with most of the media too.
Even a few GOP congressmen. Trump is fretting because the media
doesn't love him. As long as he runs wierd tweets I doubt many will,
other than his supporters.

Trump
I don't have anything much as everyone is investigating his Russian
connection and his claim about the wire tap. I am sure something will
bounce down the road soon.

GOP
They don't want a special proicuter to investigate Trumps campaign
for some reason. Perhaps they are afraid they might find something
that would cause them problems with Trumps supporters.
Time will tell.

Dem
They are trying to win some special elections for congress due to
some GOP congressment being nominated by Trump to head agencies
or on the cabinet. Time will tell if the protesters will translate
into enough votes for democrats to win in a normally GOP area.

Time will tell.

It has seemed strange that voters claimed they wanted change in
government, but re elected nearly all of those in congress save
a vary few. The very people who sat on their hands instead of
working with Obama. If they wanted change they should have
voted them out.

Some are complaining the Democrats are saying no to Trump and
making it hard for him to acomplish anything. Well all I see
them doing is trying to make sure we don't end up with some
people who plan to do more harm than good. Though they can't
do much other than delay.

The ACLU is working to make sure Trump follows the constitution. 
Other than that Trump is tripping up on his own. Mostly due to
a lack of inexperience working with government. Not counting lots
of distracting Tweets that make little if any sense.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 07, 2017, 01:09:12 pm
Trump
Our man Trump has possible ties to corrupt people in other parts
of the world. Even those tied in a back door way to terrorisim.
 Is this why he doesn't want to release his tax records? These
kinds of deals make the big bucks because sanctions make it hard
to move money. So the Terrorists throw money at politicions or
dictators to launder it.

I don't think Trump is really out to support terrorisim, but the
law says a business has the responsibility to make sure the people
they deal with are honest people.

Perhaps this is why Trump is pushing against any investigation with
his connections to Russia, for fear he or his family could be guilty
of a crime that people are put in prison for.

Or even worse Putin might have evidence of such a deal by Trumps in
that part of the world. A way to blackmail Trump. I am sure Putin
would be happy to hold something like that over Trumps head.

People who are billionaires want to be multibillionaires, and bad
people around the world know who have money, and they do approch
them with fantastic deals. Deals that are hard to turn down by mony
mad rich people, but if they aren't careful they will find them selves
involved with crimminals, and many of them launder money for
anyone including terrorists.

Now Trump is pushing to purge agencies like the FBI, CIA, and
others in government. If they don't support his ideas he may
accuse them of treason. Trump accused Obama of McCarthyism,
but it is Trump who is guilty of McCarthyism.

It seems Trump was mad about the AG excusing his self from any
investigation into the Trump capmaign. Makes one wonnder why
he would feel that way unless he was afraid of the investigation,
and expected his AG to cover something.

GOP
Our friendly GOP is pushing to change or remove the pentalties
for those who don't have insurance. They know this will drive insurance
premiums even higher. Also they are going to limit medicade substies
for new people. Offer tax credits for the poor who would get little or
nothing since they pay little tax. The hurtful changes will kick in after
the 2018 elections, and in 2020 it will basicaly be gone as far as makeing
inssurace availble to the working poor.

Already 4 GOP senators are opposing this idea to basicly destroy the ACA
by 2020 instead of replacing it. So they may have to come up with something
different without a majority in the senate to vote for it.If Trump stands by
his word he wil throw this back in the GOP's face anyway.

It shows the GOP  feels if someone can't afford health insurance they should
get a job. Well the day the working poor could afford good insurance has past.
The cost of insurance has gone sky high. Some people don't make neough to
pay the premiums and eat too. The only good way is to spread the cost across
the nation like most countries do. That way the big pharmaceutical houses would
have to deal with a nation instead of individuals they can step on. Also much could
be done to reduce health costs with preventive care the poor can't afford.

I hope the public doesn't allow the despicable tactics of the GOP to succeed in
hurting the health of the working poor of our country.






Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 08, 2017, 12:29:35 pm
Trumps 47th day.
Our man Trump is claiming the new GOP health care thing is what he
ran for office on. I kind of wonder how many feel it's what they
really thought he was talking about. Lower premium costs? No. More
people covered? No.. Medicade substies, lower if any. Oh and not to
forget. Big Tax Cuts for millionaires and billionaires. Bless their
hearts. You know they really need it. Perhaps the GOP is saying
thank you for all that money they gave them to get re elected.

If your between 50 and 64 expect extra big premiums with this plan
because you all are generally sickly.

They should lock Trump in the White House. His running around could
help pay for a lot of insurance.

Trumps new travel ban is already on the rocks. He is still trying
to block Muslims from entering the country. Hawaii is already filing
suit to stop it. 

GOP
The GOP had the appointment for the deputy AG was in committee refusing
to say he would appoint a special prosecuter for the investigation of
Trumps campaign and the Russians. I am amazed how many people feel they
can get by with refusing to do a proper investigation of Trump. The new
AG didn't excuse his self untill pressured to. Now he is trying to explain
why he didn't own up to talking to the Russian ambassador when asked.
He is still making excuses.

If they think the media will let it go, I feel they better think agains.
Even if some of those in government are ready to sell us out over money
and politics, I don't think the media will.

The GOP can claim they are following a mandate, but they just might
find out how shallow it really is in 2018.

It seems the GOP and Trump both listen to those weird far right
talk radio shows. All those people give is conspiracy theories.
Trump listens to Fake facts and claims the media reports fake news.

I think it's time for Trump to go back to his Ivory tower and
sulk.. Or go back to his apprentist show. He doesn't seem to
know  our government isn't run by one man with a board of
directors. This works well for a large corporation or a dictatorship,
but not for a nation of free people.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 09, 2017, 12:03:37 pm
Trumps 48th day
During the GOP convention the Trump campaign faught to remove
from the party platform any support to help Ukraine with weapons.
Trump and his people claimed they didn't have anything to do with
it even though they did. Now they are admitting it for some reason. 
Seems the Russian connection with Trump just grows and grows. It's 
even possible that Putin offered to help Trump win if it was removed
from the party platform. There is a bit of evidence for this because
weekieleaks first posted hacked info about the democrats a few days 
after help for Ukraine was removed from the GOP platform.

It's also strange how the Secretary of state totally avoids answering
questions by the press, even to kick them out. This is a first since
WWII ended.  I wonder if Trump has told him not  to. He also fired 
several career workers from the State department. Some of which
had been there for 30 years or more. Is that more of Trumps plans?
I did hear Trump is wanting to cut the size of the State department. I
wonder what will happen when a diplomatic crisis occurs? Especially
with few or no experienced people there to help.

With the State department reduced what will happen to people
we helped to work against dictators and other bad governments. 
I am sure Putin will be happy to see less of this. Does Trump
really think Putin will play nice if we play nice? I hope not. Because
Putin has no loyalty to anyone but his self and wants to rebuild what
he thinks is the power, and influence of the old Soviet Union. He will
step on anyone to accomplish it, including us if he can get by with it..
I hope Trump doesn't learn the truth at our expense, and the GOP is
crazy to let Trump lead us all down the garden path.

Our man Trump has conspired with the GOP to ruin government 
supported health care. This new plan of theirs is mainly
designed to cut 250 billion with a B in taxes from the top 2
percent of tax payers. I can guarantee when this plan is found to
cause increases in insurance premiums. Which it is designed to
do. They will say. "We told you government supported health
care won't work. Even with our improvements."

They are already claiming the ACA is crashing, but those who
know say it isn't. It's just fake facts by Trump and the GOP
leadership. If they really believed health care by government
was harmful to the country I might feel different, but as is it's
all about cutting taxes. They would rather let the working poor
struggle and die than add a dollar in tax to their rich friends.

It's up to the American people to decide. I think most would find
a good single payer plan is much better. To go to the doctor and just
show them your medicard, and your in. If people want fancy health 
care, like face lifts, tummy tucks, private rooms ect. Let them pay extra. 
The rest of us can get the care we need without going bankrupt.

If Trump and the GOP leadership threaten and brow beat Congress into
voting for it, I kind of imagine those people who voted for Trump will
feel differently by the mid term election. Then I imagine the GOP
will wonder what happened to their so called mandate.

Today working women were out in force protesting Trump. It wasn't as
big as the the march on jan 21st, but considering it was working
women during a workday it was a good turnout. I say stand up for your
selves. My mother worked for less than minimum wage for years with
little or no credit for doing a good job.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 10, 2017, 12:50:31 pm
Trump 49th day
Our man Trump in his campaign complained that Clinton was
giving favors for money. Trump as president is doing that very
thing to fatten his wallet.

The GOP leadership has no shame. They are using lies to take
health care from the working poor. Rushing their new plan through
congress because they are afraid the public will talk GOP
congressmen into not voting for it. No hearings to get input
from health professionals, and insurance professionals.

It seems this business that the ACA is crashing is because a
huge insurance company wasn't able to get it's way in federal
court. It's that company's ceo who is spreading the lie.

Also there is little or no premium price control for health
insurance. This is one reason prices are so high. More money
grubbing by rich executives. The ACA has made the insurance
companies a lot of money because more people have insurance,
but they want more, more, more, to feed their craving to be
billionaires. Then multi billionaires. A billion dollars is
a incredible amount of money. More than any one person ever
needs. You could spend 10 million a year for a 100 years.

I am surprised the insurance companies aren't lobbying to keep
the ACA. The GOP has run down the ACA from the beginning. Made
false claims about it. So why wouldn't a lot of people feel it
needs to be replaced after the GOP pounded it into their heads.

So now the GOP is trapped by their own lies, and feel they have
to replace it. Why? Beecause those who voted for them wanted it
done away with. That's their excuse anyway. I think it's an
excuse, because they know 66 percent of the nation want to keep
it and expand it. Of course the other 33 percent are probably
GOP supprters..

Also hospitals and other medical care facilities will loose money
with the change to Trump care. This will result in higher
costs for us all.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 11, 2017, 12:29:25 pm
Trumps 50th day.
Even after almost 2 months Trump still feels he has to lie. I guess
as long as his supporters don't care he will continue. Today there was
a nice increase in job growth reported. Trump laid claim to it of
course. Odd thing though this same reporting entity was said to be
wrong by Trump before. Now he agrees with it.

It turns out Flynn was a lobbyist for the government of Turkey while
he was part of Trumps campaign. Turkey paid him A half million dollars
for his work. He just now officially filed as an agent of a foreign
government. Trump and his people claim they didn't know Flynn was
working for Turkey as a lobbyist. Even though congress told Trumps
white how about it. Did some one keep Trump in the dark? Or is it just
another lie, but why the lies instead of just admitting the truth.

Also it seems people who are responsible to investigate Trumps
recieving money or favors from foreign governments are being fired.
Now isn't that interesting. Is Trump wanting to cover up payments
from foreign government for his self? I mean the GOP loves him after
all. So he can break his oath of offece to suit his self as long
as those responsible to hold him accountable look the other way.

GOP
The GOP Speaker of the house bragged about taking Medicaid away
from the people who need it. Mental health, poor, children, and
I presume older people. Medicaid helps when people are virtually
broke. If someone did this as a private citizen they would be
in jail instead of being a congressman. Not only that Trump supports
his ideas  even though in his campaign he said he would protect
Medicaid, medicare and social security if elected. Trump uses lies
to get his way just like a politician. People might have thought they
were electing a outsider, well they didn't. He is a insider wanting
more monty for his self and his family.

If this plan succeeds I have a hunch the GOP will suffer a huge
defeat in the next election. Of course this plan is stepped in over
several years to hide the effects. More despicable acts by the GOP
and Trump. All this to cut taxes for the rich who make their money
selling to the American public. Also they move company offices out of
country to pay even less in taxes. Trump thinks this is smart.

They appear to want to return to the days of poor houses where the
elderly poor lived half starved and in filth. Perhaps work houses for the
poor, and children eventually. Once we start down this path where does
it end? It took a long time to bring most of the poor out of squalor. It
would only take indifference by the public for it to return.

In the past it was the rich who enslaved the (Lower class of people)
and I think they would do it again if it was allowed. After all the poor
are just lazy ignorant bums, deserving of no ones help. It's the rich man
who has made the country great and the poor are just anchors on the
economy. This is how I see the GOP leadership acting even though they 
would never say or publicly admit it.

This was common a hundred years ago when the super rich stepped on the
necks of the poor. If the public allows this, they will find out first hand what
life was like in days gone by.

I think most government agencies will be under attack. Agencies for the
arts, humanities, Public broadcasting, NPR. The GOP has wanted to limit
this kind of thing for years. They feel this among other things should be
in the private sector and not government. I suppose they have a bit of a
point there, but this is a small expense for government and provides a lot
of good for many people across the country.I think the GOP would close and
sell all the National parks if they thought they could get by with it.

I imagine some feel I am over reacting, and I hope I am, but I say what
I see, and I have been around long enough to know history will repeat it's
self if the people aren't careful. Human nature unrestrained can be a terrible
thing. We already have homeless people in the streets and living out of
cardboard boxes and their cars. People that only go to emergency rooms
for health care and can't pay for it. Many private organizations are doing what
they can to minimize suffering and starvation of the poor and their children,
but they can only do what donations allow.

What makes a country great is how it treats the poor, not how it treats the rich.
Nationalism will make us poorer as a nation not richer. This country was built
with immigrants, and became great because of it. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 11, 2017, 08:15:13 pm
Trump needs to get rid of everyone who is against him. So he fires those who are investigating his ties with Russia. Because every mobster knows. If you get rid of the witness it's like you never done anything wrong. Trump has also trademarked his name on a few more businesses in Russia. Again breaking a constitutional law.

Less than 130 days till impeachment.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on March 12, 2017, 11:29:16 am
Trump needs to get rid of everyone who is against him. So he fires those who are investigating his ties with Russia. Because every mobster knows. If you get rid of the witness it's like you never done anything wrong. Trump has also trademarked his name on a few more businesses in Russia. Again breaking a constitutional law.

Less than 130 days till impeachment.

Of course he's getting rid of people who don't like him or could investigate him. Did you honestly think he wouldn't? I find it really odd and suspicious that Trump fired 40+ attorneys just now. Makes me think there's something fishy going on.  >:(
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/11/opinions/trump-beware-after-firing-bharara-callan/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/11/politics/bharara-profile-prosecutor/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 12, 2017, 12:56:16 pm
Trumps 51st day
Our man Trump has the right to fire anyone in the Justist edpartment.  I kind of wonder why
it's set up so he can.  The GOP put southern good ole boy in as atterney General.  Probably
about as far to the right as anyone since they kicked out the carpet baggers after the
civil wr.

It's the way he got rid of almost 50 federal AG's at once which was strange. I wonder how many
federal corut case were disrupted with this action. Were any affecting Trump or those close to him.
I wonder..

GOP
Our friendly GOP is still promoting their Trump Care joke.  I guess one has to give them credit
for trying. No matter how much it hurts people. The senate might be a sticking point though.

As bad as this plan is the Tea Party crowd  wants to get rid of it all together.  They ran on lies
now they have to deal with it. 

By the way GOP supporters are spending a lot of money putting ads on tv asking people to
support the new Trump care plan.  I guess they are worried they won't get enough votes to
pass it. Isn't that odd. According to the GOP their voters want it. So why the need to talk it up?
It would be nice to know who is spending all this money trying to talk up this plan.

A GOP leader was on Meet the Press this morning and he said people will have a choice. If
they want a better plan they can get it, but at their own expense of course. So the GOP is
offering  to pay, but only for cheap plans with little coverage. The ACA required sustities to
cover good plans not ones that did little to cover health care. He side stepped questions
about the higher costs not covered by their tax credits.

Dem
Just trying to do their job even if the GOP just stalls not really wanting to investigate this
Russian connection. with the Trump campaign.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 13, 2017, 01:09:44 pm
Trumps 52 day
I hope our man Trump is following the activities of world
events instead of local politics. Or his favorite conspiracy
channel online or tv.

North Korea is working to have missiles that can reach the
us mainland in just a few years. Then they can blackmail us
with threats of hitting us or our friends with nukes. If China
backs them up where does that leave us?

Trump has fired almost all the knowledgeable people in the state
department. So who is he going to ask for advice in handling
such threats. What does he plan to do. Send them billions in
money in hope they won't do anything? Seems to be a habit
with the rich. They seem to think money will buy anything.

GOP
They are still pushing their new health plan. Calling it "Obama light."
I suppose they will try to point at the ACA when their plan fails to
help people. "Told you private insurance is best." The GOP have no
desire to help the working poor or older people. If they had their way
social security and medicare would go too.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 14, 2017, 01:22:39 pm
Trump day 53
Our man Trump is now trying to change what he said about Obama
wire tapping Trump Towner. Now he says perhaps it was someone
in Obama's administration and not Obama directly. Trump hasn't
provided any evidence there was a wire tap. It's likely a
conspiracy theory he saw somewhere. Most likely to divert
attention from the investigation about the Russian connection.

Trump always says he wants to do what he promised in his campaign.
Well there was a lot more than a big Wall for Mexico, or immigrants.
Like good health care for all, and protect social securit and
medicare. Time will tell.

Trump and the GOP claim the free market will make health coverage
cost less with better coverage. As of now there is no free marked
system anywhere in the world that works to provide health care
for all. There is nothing but loss when you cover someone with
existing health issues, and no free market can make it affordable.
It requires nation wide cost sharing by everyone to make health
care affordable for all.

GOP
It looks like the GOP's new health plan is dead on arrival
unless they allow hearings and amendments. The GOP leadership
wanted to ram through before the government report came out
on it's effect on the people. Turns out 24 million could loose
health care by 2026. 14 million by 2018. The GOP is trying to 
say it's not accurate, but if 14 million people are out it's
likely the GOP will take a big hit in 2018.

Our friendly GOP is still being called to have town hall
meetings. One only said he would have one if there no "Boo's
directed to him. (Yes Really)

Others have gone out of their way to avoid talking to their
voters. This is not going away like the GOP hoped it would.
This is making the Tea Party uprising look rather limited in
comparison.

I must admit I was suprised when Senator Cotton from Arkansas
spoke against the new health bill. I guess the town halls woke him
up a bit.  He seemed to be a bought and paid for politician before.
Time will tell if he stands against Trump or not.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 15, 2017, 12:39:32 pm
Trump day 54
Our man Trump is wanting to call the GOP's new health play Ryan Care
instead of Trump care even though Trump supprts it. Kind of odd since
Trump puts hiis name on everything he likes or calls his own. Perhaps
he doesn't like it as much as he claims.

One of Trumps family who is in the white house make a huge real esteat
deal with a Chinese company. One with ties to the Chinese government. I
understand this family member owed a Chinese bank 250 million dollars.
After the deal 200 millioin was declared paid. There isn't anything
wrong with making money, but if he is making deals via the white house
it's likely unconstitutional or illegal.

Trump was on the Phone with the Atterney General. Trump says it
was only a best wishes call so to speak. Trump called Bill Clintons
meeting with the AG suspicious. Why shouldn't this be as well. A
president has no business conferring with his Attorney General. The
AG is supposed to be independent of the presidents wishes.

It seems our man Trump puts his self and his family before the country.
It was his decision to be president so claiming he can't get rid of
his businesses is no excuse. If he is worried about keeping or not
making money he should resign.

The North Korean madman is making threats because he dislikes the
war games in South Korea. He has done this in the past, but we can
only hope it's just hot air.  He did make a threat against any navy
ship that enters waters he claims.

Here is a link to a website that has a lot of info on our government, and
people in it. Politics and all.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/contributors/dcreport-org.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/contributors/dcreport-org.html)


GOP
Our friendly GOP voted to not make Trump release his Tax Returns. In
fact only one GOP house member voted to make Trump releast his
taxes. Even though a majority of the public thinks Trump should release
them all. The Clintons have released all theirs back 40 years.

Seems our friendly GOP are a bunch of cowards when it comes to being
against Trump. Never in the past has a congress been cowed so much by
a President.

Time will tell if this continues.

Dem
Haven't heard much out of them except they are  working to run people
against the republicans in 2018.  I wish them well. I think we can be sure
the GOP will use every trick in the book trying to win. Encluding keeping
people from voting where they can. Low voter turnouts tend to help the
GOP win elections. It's sad  when a minority party has the power to control
the government.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 16, 2017, 12:48:41 pm
Trump day 55
Our man Trump is out making his speeches again. Running down the courts
because they won't let him have his way. Claiming they are preventing
him from protecting Americans from bad Muslims. Well it's been 2 months
and no terrorism by Muslim immigrant..

He is still talking about hispanic immigrants. There are more asian
immigrants than Hispanic ones. He doesn't talk about them though.
I wonder why? Perhaps it's because he thinks he can get more mileage
out of the Mexican border issue.

Trump is bragging on the plan to replace the ACA. Saying the ACA is
crashing, and will leave millions wthout health care. This is a lie
generated by the GOP and the insurance industry hoping to make more
money with the new plan.

Also Trumps Tax cut is designed to benifit the rich. The new health
care plan is to benifit the rich via tax cuts. Remember the GOP
believes in Trickle down economics. If the rich have money they
will invest in jobs. It hasn't worked in the past except to make
rich people richer. Trump ran for president to make money for his
self and his family, not to help the American people. If it wasn't
true why hasn't he divested his self and his family from his vast
business enterprises. He has a lot of debt, and may be using his
office to help pay the debt.

Trump has plans to reduce taxes for himself and his friends. Another
way for him to make money as president.

GOP
Our friendly GOP is fighting each other trying to pass their new
health plan. The conservatives want it all gone, the rest are feeling
pressure to fix the ACA. The Senate looks like they won't approve
it. So it's likely dead for now. I am sure the Speaker is unhappy that
his plans to rid the government of entitlement programs isn't sailing
through the house.

He should be ashamed. Charities and foundations do a lot to help
people, but only the government has the resources to help all who
need it. Not counting putting limits on big business who often takes
advantage of the needy. Even with the best of intentions people often
find them selves needing a helping hand.

Before the ACA people bought insurance that didn't cover them like
they thought. So they ended up broke oweing tens of thousands in
health costs. Insurance companies would sell these cheap plans acting
like they would give good coverage. The average person doesn't have
any idea how much it costs to go to a hospital. I was in the hospital
for 1 day with tests that cost my insurance over 12,000.00. So
one can imagine what a serious stay would cost. Low cost plans
would not have paid it. Oh and I had a co pay of less than $100.

The ACA required people to buy insurance that paid the bills, not
plans that pretended to. It's very likely we will return to plans
that do not give the coverage needed if the GOP has their way.


Dem
They are working to do the best they can to keep Trump and
the GOP from causing more harm than good to the people. I
am sure the GOP will try to pack the Supreme Court with
conservative judges. This will likely hurt the LGBT and others
who look and act different for many years if they do.
Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 17, 2017, 01:08:30 pm
Trump day 56   
Our man Trump floated his new budget today.

Money for
A wall between us and Mexico.
The Military. I wonder if Trump is planning a war? I
hear the military is buying large amounts of munitions.
cuts in taxes
giving Trump the life style he is used to.

To name a few.

Cuts
To the state department
To the EPA
To the police
To the humanities
To the arts
To PBS
to NPR
To food for the elderly.
To aid to the poor in general.
To health care for women.

To name a few.

Now I am sure some will agree with all this, but to
allow the elderly and children to go hungry so Trump
can fly to Florida to play golf, and protect his Tower
in New York , not counting big tax cuts for the rich, is
terrible. There are GOP members who think this is fine.
To say "I grew up poor and made it on my own." Well
some people win the lottery too. If everyone was a hot
shot go getter, there wouldn't be enough jobs for them.
Not even part time dirty jobs they might have worked
hard at to get ahead. They probably didn't have a fire or
got sick. Or lost a job when they really needed it. It's a
fact of life some people fall into poverty, and need help.

The GOP always complains that government help makes
people lazy. Most people want to make their own way. It's
called pride. I admit there are a few lazy bums in society,
but to punish everyone because of a few is wrong. Government
could save money by being more efficient.

The way it is it's hard to fire a person from a government job. Even
if they do poor work. A friend of mine who worked in government
as an administrator told me he had a secretary who spent more
time filing her fingernails than working. After several warnings he
fired her. She tried to say it was his fault not hers. I don't remember 
how it came out, but this kind of thing costs us all.

As long as people are willing to try we should be willing
to help them. If not we need to find a way to get them to
work to help them selves. Those who are not able should be 
helped anyway. Sometimes the State and local people can do
a better job of helping, but not always like the GOP likes to
claim.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 18, 2017, 12:03:31 pm
Trump day 57
Our man Trump is the biggest waster of tax payer dollars ever.
To maintain his lavish life style the governemtn has spent almost
20 million dollars since he took office. The GOP is fine with it and
even try to claim Obama spent more on his travels. This lie is a
good enough reason alone to kick the bums out.

Trump is in Florida again. Costing the locals thousands of dollars for
security and loss of business. He claims it's a working weekend. Well
he could work in Washington DC.

A link to show comparison spending with Obama.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/22/trumps-family-trips-cost-taxpayers-nearly-as-much-in-a-month-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#78ddc71a36e4
 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/22/trumps-family-trips-cost-taxpayers-nearly-as-much-in-a-month-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#78ddc71a36e4)

Trump and the GOP have the gall to cut food programs for the poor
and elederly that cost much less than Trumps personal travels.

His last ralley in Tennessee had 2700 protesters
out side the convention center he was in, and kept
out all but those who support him. This is a man who
represents the people? I think not.

Trump is still claiming his Tower was wire tapped. Even to
claim Obama asked the Britsh to do it. How far will Trump go
trying to cover a stupid tweet. To attack friends is wrong. I
think blaiming England is ridiculous. I personally apologize
to our British friends even if Trump doesn't have the decentcy
to do his self.

Trump apparently informed North Korea they were to discontinue 
their weopons program to attack the south or the US. Even if we
have to use force. The only real change is to say we leave all
options on the table to prevent an attack. Unless Trump has in
mind to do a premeptive attack to destroy a missle that could
deliver an atomic weopon. One could say this would be to prevent
war, but who can say what response it would cause. China is a
already defending the North Korean dictator and complaining about
the anti missle system we have sent South Korea.

Trump had a meeting with a dozen GOP house members. He then
claimed he changed their minds on the new health plan from a
no to a yes. Did he threaten to try to cost them their election
next year?  Who can say, but some of them said the would only
change their vote if the plan was amended to their liking. If
you don't like the plan now I am sure you wouldn't l ike the
amendments they would like.  They just want to get rid of
the ACA. No replacement.

GOP
Our friendly GOP is still working to rid the country of the
ACA even if it hurts the working poor. Why? because the voters
said to. That's their excuse. They are still cliaming the ACA
is failing, but the experts say it's doing well, and would
still be better than the GOP Plan.

What they should be doing is fixing it. They complain about
helping lazy people with welfare. Instead they want to give
welfare to the super rich. The poor will get poorer and the
rich will get richer. Every body shout. "Yes master" Because
thats where we are headed. In the past the rich enslaved the
poor, and it could happen again. Not tomarrow of course, but
in the future if we don't change it.

How long will people support the GOP and their far right activities.
The far right claims the immigrants will take over the country if we
don't keep them out. I have heard this kind of thing for years by the
far right. It's nothing more than a bunch of people who want to keep
the country for "White Christian People." and no one else. I wish there
was another land mass these people could go, and set up their muitual
admiration society. Then the rest of the world could ignore them all.

Holland voted down a far right populace politician for a leader. This is a
win for all people. It was a disappointment for the far right.  I hope they have many
more disappointments. Turns out Trump is having an effect on people around
the world. Showing others what having a far right leader is all about. Many are
deciding they don't want it after all. France is having an election soon, and the
far right person who is running there is loosing support since Trump has been
in office.

The Dutch had a 82% turn out to vote. We do well to get 60% I think it's time
we get out and vote. If we did perhaps our politicians would care more about
their voters. Instead of running a welfare system for the rich.

Dem
Not much to say. They are pushing for investigations about Trump and the Russians.
Since they are a minority in congress they can only pressure the GOP to do the right
thing, and hold Trump and his Cabinet accountable.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 19, 2017, 12:29:34 pm
Trump day 58
Our man Trump said he was going to be a full time president. Well instead of
staying in the White House sticking to business as president. He goes to
Florida about every weekend. A weekly vacation so to speak. I guess it's
normal if your a billionaire to go south for the weekend.  He claims he is
doing government business while there. But I think the $3.6 millon it casts
for each trip could be spent better elsewhere.

Also his wife is living in Trump Tower which costs the government millions
to protect. Why? So his kid can finish his school year.  I say send them to
washingto DC, and give the kid a tutor.  I mean lots of kids across the nation
have to change schools because their parents have to move for one reason or
another.  Trump should set a good example instead of acting like he and his
family should have special privileges. I suppose a billionaires kid might be
damaged mentally if he was treated like a normal kid.

Trump still claims Obama tapped his Tower. Trump just can't admit he is
wrong about anything. Even if he makes a mistake in judgment. I guess
he thinks it makes him look weak. Well it hurts his credibility as president.
When can we believe anything he says?

Now Trump is out acting like he is campaigning again. I have heard the GOP
is paying the costs as they should be. I watched some of a speech he made
at one stop. Sounded just like the old Trump. Blaiming and promising to
fix everything. "It's all easy to fix if congress supports me."  Well he has
had almost 2 months, and all he has done is ....

make a few executive orders. The  Travel ban was writting so bad the courts
rejected it. and his replacement isn't any better.

Another order was to make it harder for people to get a loan to buy a house.

He signed a law that allows mentally ill people to  have guns.

A budget that increases the national debt even though he campaigned he
would reduce the debt.

He supports a health plan that will leave 14 million people without health
insurance next year. 26 milling in the next 10 years.

I could go on, but personally I don't think our man Trump is doing a good
job. His cabinet is full of his Billionair friends. The State Department is in
disarray. The Atterney General is suspect of being involved with the russians.
Trump is suspect of being involved with the Russians.

I think it's high time the Congress should do it's duty and start impeachment
on a president who has violated his oath of office several times.
Only Time will tell.


GOP
Our friendly GOP is starting hearings on the Russian connection as well as
Trumps wire tapping claim on the 20th of march. The director of the FBI is
supposed to testify, but he has been known to refuse to answer on grounds
there is an investigation in work. The democrats will try to pressure the GOP
chairman to pursue a strong investigation, but I wonder how willing they are
to possibly show Trump in a bad light. Or guilty of accepting russian help to
get elected.
Only time will tell.

In a few days the GOP will have a vote for their replacement health plan.
They run the risk of it passing in the house, but loosing in the Senate. If
this happens house members will be at risk for voting for a failed plan. A
plan that will harm millions. So in 2018 there will be primaries with
tough questions. So I don't think they want to be tied to a bad bill that
ends up failing to pass.

If you are getting health care with the ACA medicade expansion I would
suggest conteacting your congress man or woman to let them know
how you feel about the new plan. If it passes you may find yourself unable
to afford health insurance that will pay the costs next year.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 20, 2017, 12:37:34 pm
Trump day 59
Trump complains about immigrants from latin america, but the number of
peaple from latin amerca went down by one million last year. But people
from asia, like China, and Melaysia, and others are staying here without
visa's or illegally. It's time we asked Trump and the GOP why they aren't
exporting these people as well as illegal Hispanics.


GOP
I think it's time for the GOP and Democrats to sit down and work out
a health plan for all americans. Canada offers care for all at a lower
cost for Canadians than we Americans pay. They end up with better care
with preventative care. A plan like this would work for all encluding
veterans, elderly, young, poor, and even the Rich. Of course there could
be private hospitals only for the rich just like there are nursing homes
that only the rich can afford..

Sometimes I think the reason the Rich don't want to guarantee health
care is so they won't have to share a hospital room with a poor person
much less a minority. I think some of them would just as soon the elderly
and sick would just die and get it done with. Unless of course it's one of
them. I understand Trump is scared of getting sick, and dieing. Many
rich people hunt down special treatments that could extend their lives.

It's normal to fear dieing, but most of us don't have the resources to get
the care that might help us live longer. I am not saying all rich people are
uncaring slobs. But it seems to go along with the territory. Even the Christian
Bible gives a rich man little hope for salvation. I guess that's why some of
them start setting up foundations trying to prove they really care.

It's time the GOP gets off their political backsides  and get this done so
we can move on to other things like drug abuse, repairing bridges. We
don't need boarder walls. If the government would enforce laws against
hiring illegal aliens the immigration problem would solve it's self.

The GOP is wanting to make people work to get medicaide. That's all
well and good if these people can find a job. Or have a way to get to
the job. Poor people often don't have vehicles, or even a place to live.
Or child care so they can work. So finding or getting a job without an
address or a car is often not possible.

If the GOP wants this so bad, then provide jobs for these people to do.
Even if it's just picking up trash. Or running  errands for the elderly It's 
still a way to show they want to help them selves. And those trying to
avoid doing work wouldn't have a good excuse for not finding a job.

There are many ways to deal with welfare cheats without going to 
extreme measures. Insurance companies investigate people for
fraud, the government could pay private investigators instead of 
having government workers doing it. That way if one started reporting
people improperly they could stop hiring them. I would rather not see
this, but it's better than letting people go hungry or going without health
care.

The GOP wants everying privatized. That's all well and good, but when it
comes to giving aid, or other things they don't have a direct interest in. People
often grow tired of handing out money. Where as the government can appropriate 
money for the purpose. The money still comes from the people, but they don't
have to think about it. One GOP member was saying a person not making much
probably doesn't want their tax going to pay for the Arts, or PBS. But that same
congress man defended Trumps weekly trips to Florida, and that person shouldn't
mind helping pay for that. Good thing he didn't ask me.  :P

Dem
I hope the Democrats say NO to everything that causes harm to the working poor, 
and the country. They ought to lock Trump in the White House unless he has some
government work to take care of. Obama spent less than a 100 million on personal
travel over his 8 year term in office. Trump will hit 100 million in 6 months if you
count all the money spent for personal travel, protecting his properties and family.

Trump is a bigger risk to national security than the immagrants he wants to kick out.
I wish the Congress would impeach him before he starts a war we all may regret.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 21, 2017, 12:37:12 pm
Trump day 60
Our man Trump still claims his campaign was tapped even though
the FBI, and the Justice department both say there is no evidence
to support his tweets. The GOP is still brown nosing Trump. They
constantly make excuses for him even though they know it's wrong.
Trump just can't admit being wrong about anything. It goes against
his way of thinking. He feels it is weak to do so.

His Press secretary in the White House has the brownest nose of all. Not
counting Trumps spin gal Kelly. He ought to resign. He might think it's
a good job, but I think he will find it hard to get a job outside
the far right in the future.

Trump's downfall will likely be due to a cover up more than an actual
breakage of a law. After all few really rich people ever go to jail.
Un like regular people who go to jail for petty crimes.

Trump is saying those in his campaign who talked to the Russians were
just temporary volunteers for his campaign. Evidence shows otherwise.
So he continues trying to lie his way out of trouble.

The GOP health plan, continuing lies, and stupid tweets by Trump is
starting to drag his popularity down. I wonder if that will change
him any? Only time will tell. 

Trump sure likes to give jobs to his family. The presidency isn't a family
affair, but Trump thinks so. He isn't paying them because it would be
illegal to  hire family.  I wonder though. Once out of office will they find
a gift in their bank account from good ole dad? It's not likely we will
ever know.

GOP
Our friendly GOP is doing all they can to get their health plan passed 
in the house. Even to add 75 Billion to the tax credits for people 50
to 64. I am a bit surprised the conservatives would go along with that
much more spending. Perhaps Trump is envolved in this idea. Only thing
the extra money has no ties. It's just money with no real promises to
use it to help the older working poor. I kind of think that money will
end up somewhere else after the vote.

The GOP hearings about Trump and the Russians heard today from the FBI
that the Trump campaign had been under investigation since July of 2016.
The GOP played it down. More brown nosing it would seem. But there is
evidence some in the Trump campaign were envolved with Russia. Perhaps
to win the election. It may take time to find out for sure.

Will the GOP play politics while Russia destroys our democracy?
Only time will tell. What's strange is the GOP were always hawks when
Russia was concerned. Now they just act like it's no big deal that Russia
hacked the DNC.  Well Russia's Putin wants to be the world big shot, and
will do about anything to get his way.

That North Korean madman wants South Korea. His pappy wanted it since
the Korean War. If China had kept their nose out of the War Korea would
have been whole. For some reason China doesn't want a democratic Korean
next door. Somehow they seem to believe it would spread into China. That's
silly, because the Chinese already know about democracy, and tried to get
it in the early 1990's. But the crooked leadership managed to convince
the army to kill the demonstrators. Claiming they were out to destroy
China and it's way of life. The people of China are biding their time and
will try again when the time is right.

I often wonder why leaders around the world are so caught up with power?
They could live the life of a king without being cruel to their people. I guess
it's just the bad old Human Nature at work. Greed and the fear of loosing
control. Those Crooked Chiniese leaders had their bags packed and were
ready to leave the country if the army had turned against them. They knew
the hangman was in their future if they lost.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 22, 2017, 12:19:00 pm
Trump day 61
Our man Trump was in congress emplying threats to congress they would
loose their seats if they don't vote for Trump care. Trump is trying to
say if it fails it will hurt his agenda. I would think if he really cares
about the people who voted for him he ought to be rejecting this plan as
it hurts the very people he promised to help. Of course he may be one of 
those who are rich that feel helping the little guy will hurt the rich.

Trump lies about where the pipe for the keystone pipline will be made. He
says aamerica, but it was made in Rusaia and India, and it's already
sitting in the USA ready to install. So they exempted the Keystone line
from having to replace it with american made pipe. It's just more of his
lies to make his supporters feel good.

GOP
The GOP is pushing to have a vote for Trump care on march 22. Even with
Trumps pressuring members of congress it will be close. They even set up
special exemptions for some counties in New York state to gain a vote or
two. This whole thing has nothing to do with representation of the people.
It's just politics. Perhaps 2018 will be the GOP's Waterloo.

Our friendly GOP is wanting to approve Trumps pick for the supreme court.
They ignored Obama's pick saying he didn't have the right to  pick a
judge in his last year. The GOP is trying to sidestep the first amendment
by putting people in the court that support religious values. To do
so amounts to having a state religion.

The man Trump picked is right down the GOP's alley. He has sided with
big business several times as a federal judge. One case was where a trucking
company fired a driver for leaving his rig to get  warm. He had been waiting
for hours in sub zero cold, and could have died if he had stayed. This judge
sided with the trucking company saying the man should have stayed in spite 
of the cold without any heat. This shows he has more concern for property
than the lives of the working class. The GOP should be ashamed to even consider
some one like this. But as we know big business is king with the GOP.

If a democratic president was in office and was under investigation by the
FBI they would be crying "we can't approve anything by a president that is
under investigation." But the hypocrites don't have a problem since it's
their own man in office.

I think many Americans feel the Russian connection is much to do about
nothing. The problem is Russias Putin is wanting to use cyber attacks
to make democracy and the west in general look bad. Send out vast amounts
of disinformation that looks legitimate. They are already doing this in
Europe. They feel this will at least disrupt political systems to harm
democracies around the world. Putin and Trump both believe authoritarian
forms of government is the best way to govern the masses. The public at
large is just a tool for their use.

Perhaps many people feel Trump is doing a good thing following conspiracy
theories instead of real knowledge from the CIA and FBI, But it's dangerous 
to follow lies and false stories. Trump is either a con artist trying to fool his
supporters or he is being foolish. I tend to think he is a con artist.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 23, 2017, 12:57:38 pm
Trump day 62
Trump seems to think we should believe any and all things he says
as fact. Even if there is no proof to back it up. Perhaps this is 
how he runs his businesses. He has been in court several times accused
of not telling the truth. So perhaps he thinks if I say it it has to
be true. Could it be he is mentally ill?

GOP
The Chairman of the house intelligence committee took some evidence to
Trump about some incidental surveillance that might have envolved the
Trump campaign without telling the committee. The Chairman was working
with Trump during the transition for Trump. Seems interesting he should
even be envolved with his connection to the Trump campaign. This looks
like the Chairman is trying to help Trump which works against a
investigation. Could it be he is lying as well?

Our not so friendly GOP leadership is still pushing to pass Trump Care.
Even though it might fail unless they can get the conservative crowd on
board. They want to get rid of the ACA without any replacement. They
also want to get rid of Medicare, social security, and the Veterens
health care. They know they can't do it all at once, but thats what
their big business supporters want them to do.

I have mentioned in the past that money is adictive. The more you have
the more you want. Just like a dangerous drug. It's likely this adiction
that causes billionaires to step on the poor, the elderly, or anyone
who might stand in the way of their riches growing larger. Just like
Disneys Scrooge Mc Duck they would swim in it if they could.

Cutting the safety nets for the public will likely destroy the
GOP in the end. All this because the super rich doesn't want to
help anyone but them selves.

The GOP is supported by the super rich who think we should let
the  poor fend for them selves. Let the old and infirmed die. They
will sit  behind high walls with a private army to protect them from
the  chaos that will llikely result. Just as the nobility did in pas ages.

You might think this is all new, but the GOP faught FDR trying to
stop the passage of Social security. They faught to stop Medicare
and mdicaid in the 1960's The GOP believes these entitlement programs
will bankrupt the nation. It could happen if the GOP continues to
reduce taxes for the people who are calling to the demise of federal
entitlements. There is enough money to protect people. It's just the 
super rich wants to keep it all for them selves.

I am not against people being rich, but the idea of being multi billionaires
is nothing but greed. No one needs that much money. It's all un nessacaary
built on the backs of the middle class. Bringing down the super rich a few
billion would make the country better for everyone. I am not saying all at
once, but taxing them so they pay a fair share would do just fine.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 24, 2017, 11:42:32 am
Trump day 63
Our man Trump is is using his famous skills to convince the GOP
to pass Trump care. So far it's been rather dismal for Trump. He
is saying if it fails I am done with it. This just proves how
ignorant he is when it come to runing or leading a government. It
has little to do with how a business is run. So he is trying to
threaten the GOP membership  in to go along with him. This will
only make things worse with time.

Trump doesn't even care what the replacement plan has in it. He
just wants to stand up and claim I did it. Then to heck with
those it hurts.

GOP
Our not so friendly GOP is still trying to pass Trump care. It's
the speakers plan to put health care in the hands of the states
who may or may not have the money to provide the care people need.
The Speaker of the house wants to rid the goverment of all entitlements.
Medicare, medicaid, social security, and veterens health care.Send it
to t he states. Privatise it. Give the elderly money to buy cheap
insurance that won't cover their needs. The Speaker is a terrile man
who thinks private industry is the answer to everything. 

The GOP is listening to the insurance industry lobbiests for data. People
who are only interesed in makeing a profit. There is no profit in
comprehensive health care. Unless you remove the high risk people from
the coverage. These people are either idiots or on the take. They
sure don't care about their voters.

The Chairman o f the intelligence committee was out trying to
say he made a mistake by going to the White House before talking
to his commmitee members. Well it wasn't only his mistake it was
the Speaker of the house who likely told him to go to Trump with
something Trump could use trying to prove his claim of being wire
tapped.

If they were to pass his terrible plan it would deregulate the insurance
industry. This would allow health insurance plans that give little coverage
at a lower cost.Also at government cost. People will go to the doctor or
hospital and find they owe huge amounts of money. If they can't pay it will
ruin their credit to boot. After all that they can thank your friendly GOP. and
Trump.

I can remember health plans that promised to pay the bills. Only ending up
covering the hospital room, but not the tests and doctor visits. It's plans
like that people will end up with unless they want to pay huge premiums. Only
the young and healthy under 40 crowd will get insurance at a reasonable cost.
They may even remove the law that requires emergency rooms to care for
the uninsured. This costs hospials a lot, even to put them out of business.  Untill
the middle class wakes up the rich will get their way. No matter how terrible it is.

The ACA was designed to protect the public from those in the insurance industry
from taking advantage of the working poor and others who couldn't afford a plan
that paid the bills. It also covered preventative care. Health costs have gone up
at 1/2 the rate since the ACA has been in effect. The  GOP only lies about it so
they can cut taxes for the rich by getting rid of it. 

The GOP could work with the Democrats to actually fix the ACA, but no they only
care about cutting all entitlements.  Go back to the days where people died at home
in the streets and live in squaler so the rich can get richer. Return to the days when
deseases were rampent because a lot of people can't afford the shots to prevent it.
Or the  medicine to cure it. Return to the days of beggers and hungry children running
like packs of dogs looking for food. All to help the rich behind their gates and guards.

It's a shame the news doesn't go to third world counties and show the squalor and 
beggars in the streets. It's a small step to that kind of life even if most don't think so.
People worry about terrorism, well it's this kind of thing that breeds it. 

Only Time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 25, 2017, 11:29:19 am
Trump day 64
Our man Trump is crying. "It's the democrats fault. They didn't
give us a single vote." Here is a video about what happened to
Trump care. Trump never learns, it's always someone elses fault.

Here is a link to a video on the subject.

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/chris-matthews-the-gop-choked-906055235710
 (http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/chris-matthews-the-gop-choked-906055235710)

Trump seems to think running the country is a family affair. He has his
whole family involved. Perhaps thats how he has ran his own businesses
but he is the president, not his relations.  It's time they were sent home.
They can use government intelligence to make losts of money. This should
be illegal even  if they are related. In the past this would have been a
national scandle. When Carter was president his brother was under
investigation for possible help from the president. If Carter had had
him in the white house the congress would have had a fit.
It's time the GOP got out of bed with Trump.

The GOP has given up on replacing the ACA. It was more of a tax break bill
than a health bill. Cut this and that. The Tea Party people wanted to give
the store to the insurance industry. Just watch the GOP and insurance
industry will sabotage the ACA to prove the claim it is failing. The
GOP by cutting funding to the ACA and the insurance companies by raising
rates even higher.

People can't stop now, the battle has been joined and they have to keep
the pressure on the GOP to keep them accountable. We have to work to
give the american people good health care with single payer like Medicare
does. The people already pay into it. All we need is to make the super
rich pay their fair share. 

The intelligence chairman rescheduled indefinably the next open hearing for
the Trump campaign investigation. The Chairmans actions suggest a cover
up for Trump and those in his campaign. You suppose there will be some
revelation that Trump has found the one person who is a Russian spy? If
so they best have some good evidence or it will add to their problems.

There is reports those in the white house are purging their data devices
for fear of more investigations. Only thing they have been told to keep
the data. So if they are they may be facing jail time if true.

How long will the GOP stand up for Trump. as the days pass Trump and his
people are looking more and more suspicious of being in bed with the
Russians. Perhaps even to have a spy in the white house that is possibly
hearing security matters.

Will the GOP continue to let politics control their actions? Or will 
they get their act together and think about the country instead. Today the 
speaker said it takes time to learn how to legislate. Well they have had 
control of the house for seven years. How much time does it take? A Poor
excuse if you ask me.

If the GOP wants good legislation they should work with the Democrats. The
way it is their factions make it hard if not impossible to get anything done.
Legislation requires comprimise between all parties in most cases. Especially
if they are working on a bill that affects everyones lives.

People in the GOP are mostly business people. So they see the world from
a business perspective.  Even though many Democrats have business
backgrounds they are people who know what it's like to deal with
big business and it's greed. Many GOP members do care about people,
but there are many who feel private interprise will solve any problem
given enough time. Private interprise needs profit to survive, and health
coverage for high risk people is not profitable. They need governlment
aid.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 26, 2017, 11:56:05 am
Trump day 65
Our man Trump is back in florida. He is saying let the ACA break
then we can fix it. If it breaks it will have the GOP's dirty fingerprints
on both pieces. Trump and the Speaker will try to sabatoge it, because
Trump has to win and the Speaker wants to privatise everything.
I could be wrong, but time will tell.

Trump has dumped on his supporters. He said he wanted affordable
health care. But went for a plan that would have dumped on the very
people who voted for him. Trump might be good at selling real estate,
but I don't think he can con congressmen, they are smarter than he is.

The secret service asked for an extra $60 million to pay the extra costs
for protecting Trumps family. So the Trumps can continue their rich life
style. Trumps weekly golf games in Florida for instance. I don't really
think the voters expected Trump to do this. In his campaign he complained
about politicians spending tax dollars for travel. The secret service also
looks for missing people and children. I wonder if Trump would put a few
trips on hold to allow the sevice to do the job of finding kids? I kind of
doubt it.

Trump did do something I felt was good. He signed a bill that helps our
space program. If we don't continue working to advance our ability to
be in outer space. We will find our selves falling behind China and
Russia. It's also a security issue that protects the  country.

GOP
It's sad how much the GOP leadership is letting Trump tell them how
to do their work. They need to stand up and tell Trump to start working
and quit bragging about his self. Also to tell his relatives to go home.
Tell his wife to move to DC with his boy to save the taxpayers millions.

Our friendly GOP is looking bad. Trying to work such a big bill in 17 days
was rather silly. I think they were worried the public would stop the bill
if they took the time. This bill was terrible. It took care from Children,
from older people, from women, ect. The voters are going to have to
change the GOP if they want good health care like most every other
democratic country in the world provides it's people.

The GOP  believes the free market can do it all cheaper. Perhaps it
could if human nature wasn't so selfish. Health care has gone up twice
as fast as inflation over the last 60 years. My father was in the hospital
for cancer surgery where they removed a kidney and the cost was less
than $1000.00 even though he was in the hospital for more than a
week. Granted that was almost 60 years ago, but today that would have
likely cost $100,000.00 dollars. I hardly think there is any justification for
that much of an increase. It's no  wonder why insurance costs so much.
The GOP needs to work to cut costs, not cut care.

Medicine costs have gone up just to make people very rich, not to make
a good living for those who make it. Rules could be changed that would
save people thousands, and the government hundreds of millions if not
billions if the GOP would tell big business lobbyists to get lost.

Also they need to make big business pay their fair share of taxes. If
they did the deficet would likely be much less. It's not entitlements
running the deficet up it's allow big business and super rich to not pay
fair taxes. Makeing rules that let big business set up their head office
outside the country to save taxes.

When CEO's of these businesses get millions in bonuses they have the
money to pay a fairer share in tax.

The GOP best tell the far right to get lost or they will end up being
a failed party in a few years. The majority of the voters are not
far right, and will vote against those who are.

In the late 1800's the industrial revolution began and when it did
enterprising people found ways to make things that helped people
live better. Then human nature took over and these people found
could get very rich by treating their workers like property, and put
others out of business to monopolize the trade. This way they could
charge very high prices. The voters forced them to sell off much of
their monopolies. The workers created unions to force big business
to treat the workers fairly. I think it's time once more to jump on the
necks of big business by voting for people who will make big business
and the super rich be good citizens of our country. In the end we all
would be better off.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 27, 2017, 12:41:48 pm
Trump day 66
Our man Trump says he is wanting to start Tax Reform, but with
the failure to change the ACA he may find Tax reform difficult. Most
of his health plan was to cut billions in taxes to the rich. Now without
that cutting taxes for the rich may be harder.

He like most big business supporters want less tax and regulations.
Claiming it will create lots of jobs. There is a problem, thousands of
jobs are being lost due to stores like Sears and others closing outlets
across the nation. Trump may wish to ignore this problem,, but it will
show up eventually. Many of these closings are in areas that supported
him in the election.

GOP
Our friendly GOP seems to be working to cover up Trumps mistakes.
Trying to make him look good. Even trying to shut down investigations
of Trumps campaign. They have been out of power for 8 years. So I guess
they are desperate to pass some of their plans that will hurt the enviroment
and help the rich get richer. Not counting making life worse for the working
poor.

Now they are wanting to install a judge to the supreme court that is out
to help big business over the little guy. It was pressure from big business
that caused the GOP to keep the seat open even though they should have
put Obamas pick for the court up for a vote. They wanted to use it as a
way to get more votes in the fall election as well.

The Speakers plans to privatize entitlements has been foiled for now, but
like a bad penny it will likely turn up again in the not too distant future.
The GOP believe entitlements are destructive to the country, putting us
deep in debt. This is true if we let the rich, and big business avoid paying
their fair share of taxes. After all other democracy's protect their people
with social programs so can we.

Private enterprise and the market place works well with items the average
person can afford, but only supporting the rich with claims it will help
everyone else is a bad idea. Except for the rich of course. With good
planning costs of basic needs can be controlled. Some things require
us all working together for the public good is needed. Even it has the
bad taste of socialism. Too much socializim is bad, but some is required
to keep a society from falling apart.

If we allow the rich to have most of the money the rest of the people
will work to change the government. In the great depression of the
1930's the country was being pulled in several directions. When people
become desperate they will grab at anything that looks better, even if
it's harmful to the nation.

Even then the GOP was against social programs like Social security, and
have been ever since. I think it was interesting the GOP used money from
the social security fund in the 1950's to help build the interstate highway
system.  The GOP always claim the Democrats are the Tax and Spend party,
but the GOP is always ready to spend money they see laying around like
the social security fund. Since the fund is falling short, and now the GOP
wants to get rid of it. They can always find money for their Pork Barrel
projects to get votes. I am sure both parties are guilty of this.

It all goes back to the voter. If we sit back and do nothing they will think
we are happy no matter what they do. If they run on some plan and get
elected they can say. The people want it. even though they were elected
by a minority of the voting public.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 28, 2017, 12:08:41 pm
Trump day 67
Our man Trump started out blaiming the democrats for the fail
of his health plan. Now he is blaiming the GOP. The very people
he will need to do the tax reform he wants to do next. Trump
seems to just decide and expects congress to follow his lead.
Well I think he will find it doesn't work that way. He isn't a
dictator like Russia's Putin who can have people who don't
agree with him eliminated.

Trump has his family looking over the shoulder of people working in
the White House. Like a bunch of watch dogs. Running to Trump if
someone gets out of line or doesn't want to follow Trump. Seems
that woulc make for a very nervous place to work in. Trump has
run all his businesses looking to family for advice. So now he is
doing the same as presid3ent. I wonder if the supporters knew
they were going to have Trumps family running the white house?

Trump left alone would be more to the left, but family, Bannon,and
the Vice President are pushing him to the far right. I think thats
why he is changing all the time. His battle with those around him
causes him to say one thing and do another.

During the campaign Trump claimed he would work very hard to get
his promises done. Turns out he is gone every weekend, tweeting,
playing Golf, and glad handing to make money. Out doing ralles as if
he was still running for office. Seems a lot different than the claim
he would stay in the White House almost with little or no personal
travel. A report showed him to be at a property he owns 1 day out
of 3. One of his golf courses, hotel, country club, ect.  I wonder how
much money he is making using places he owns instead of letting
someone else benifit from his travels.

GOP
The intelligence commmittee chairman went to the white House at night
saying he didn't talk to anyone. No one can get in the White house
without being noticed. The next day he goes with the Speakers blessings
to talk to Trump. No one really knows what the Chairman was up to. He
is a Trump supporter, and part of Trumps team after the election. He
really shouldn't be investigating the Trump campaign when he was a
part of it. Now the commmittee hearings have been stopped with no
real explanation. Makes us wonder who or what the GOP is worried about.

Conversations with the GOP has shown they are still are playing nice
with Trump. At least to the press.. The GOP should work with the Democrats
instead of trying to ram everything past them. They seem to forget they
are not a majority party. They have no mandate to do anything. Except to
follow their oath of office. To work for the good of the country not the
good of the GOP.

The past 7 years the GOP has used the ACA to raide money and get votes to
try to gain power. Now that they have power they can't even do what they
promised to do. They are so factioned they can't get a majority vote without
the democrats. Except for small bills to please some minor group along with
some political pork.

Bills to change regulations that help their friends get votes and make money.
Bills that hurt the enviroment, and make it harder for the little guy or gal.
The Politicians talk like they are there for the people. Only thing is which
people? Billions of dallars for a stupid wall when more asians are sneaking
into the country than hispanics from Mexico. They don't care as long as it
buys votes.

Democrats
If they don't wake up and listen to the people they will stay out of power. We
need people who listen, and explain what needs to be done for the good of us
all. If businesses didn't hire illegal aliens they wouldn't come to the country
 except to avoid being killed in their own country. Seems rich people from
either party hire undocumented aliens.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 29, 2017, 11:23:34 am
Trump day 68
our man Trump is removing Obamas executive orders to push
for clean energy. He removed regulations to help coal
corporations make more money by letting them pollute rivers
with mining refuse. Even though coal is a dying industry in
this country.

Those in energy production have been moving to natural gas,
wind, and solar over the last decade. Trump is likely to
remove tax credits that incurage renewable energy use as well.
If we the US don't invest in renewable energy research other
countries wiil. Like China, Germany, and perhaps even Russia.
Leaving us behind.

There are well over 600,000 jobs created by renewable energy
development and use across the country. Trump actions will
likely cost jobs. Big business doesn't want renewable energy
so the GOP is out to see there is little help for it.

Trump is down to 36% approval. 2 points lower than Obama ever
was. I wonder how low he can go before the GOP is embarrassed by
him.

There is a report that Trump wanted a military parade of military
hardware at his inauguration. He denys it, but he was wanting it. This
is something China, Russia, and North Korea likes to do hoping to
intimidate other countries, but I don't think we need to.

GOP
The GOP has faught against the idea of climate change for meany
years because big business knows regulations limiting emissions
will cost them a lot of money. The GOP Claims they are all about
jobs. But they never want unions, or require a good paying wage.
People in Big business have their eyes on the dollar, not workers
rights. Or the climate. That's the future and they don't care what
happens 50 to 100 years from now. High tides are already threatening
coastal cities. Especially during storms. The warmer the water and
climate gets the higher ocean levels will rise.

The GOP is truning it's back on holding Trump accountable for his
abuse of the constitution and laws. Who will hold them to it with the
GOP in power? The GOP seems to want to pass it's plans so bad they
will let Trump get by with almost anything. Apparently even the
Russians which is wierd since the GOP has always been afraid of Russian
involvment in other countries. 

Several of Trumps picks have been involved with Russia's Oligarchs.
Possible money laundering, Not counting the election hacking for
Trump. The GOP just makes excuses for Trump. If Clinton had done
1/10 th of what Trump and his people have been acused of they would
have had her up on impeachment in the first month.

Time will tell, but perhaps the protests will eventually put enough
fear in the GOP to get action, or at least a non partison investigation
of Trumps campaign and his picks. When Trump had Obamas atterney generals
across the nation to resign. The one in New York was getting ready to
investigate Trumps campaign. Though this AG had Trumps promise to keep
him, out he went with over 40 others. Perhaps he was encluded so it wouldn't
look suspicious when the AG who was getting ready to investigate Trump was
kicked out. Just another bit to make us wonder what is going on behind the
scenes.

A link to a report about one of Trumps men and Russia.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/manafort-linked-accounts-cyprus-raised-red-flag-n739156 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/manafort-linked-accounts-cyprus-raised-red-flag-n739156)

This link has several reports  about Trumps possible Russian connections
if your interested.

www.msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.com)


Fake news is the kind Trump, GOP, Russian oligarchs, and the Far
right  doesn't approve of.  I have to admiit there are some in the
GOP who do look to the facts instead of Trumps alternative facts.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 30, 2017, 12:01:01 pm
Trump day 69
Our man Trump falls to a new low 35% approval. Perhaps his supporters are
beginning to see him for what he really is. A con artist. A man who is only
wanting fame and money. Trump talked about new factories Ford Moters was
building. Acting like it was due to him. Turns out these plants were in
work before he was elected. Just another lie to make his self look good.

It appears the Trump white house wanted the investigation of the Trump
campaign shut down.Seems it has been, at least for the time being. It does
ask the question, why worry about an investigation unless there is something
to hide? According to polls the american public wants the investigation to
continue even if Trump and the GOP does not. I understand the GOP
intelligence chairman is even keeping information from their own committee
members.

Apparently some rich supporters of Trump are worried about his poll numbers
because they are buying ads in 10 states trying to help Trump gain popularity.
These same people helped him during the election. Perhaps they are afraid of
loosing their investment. These people are billionaires and have influenced
Trump on some of his decisions. Also they are far right types. I understand 
they are spending a million dollars on the ads.

This is why we shouldn't let rich people pour money into campaigns of people
they want. The GOP managed to get the Supreme court to allow large donations
for those running for office. This is where these "Packs" came from. A place
where rich people can spend millions to support a candidate of their choice. I think
donations should be limited to what the average person can afford. Not huge
amounts by the rich trying to buy a politician. Hopefully when the democrats gain 
power it will be changed.

GOP
The intelligence committee of the senate appears to be bi partisan unlike
the house version. The senate committee said he was not asking Trump
who or what to investigate. The commmittee will follow the evidence.
Time will tell, but this looks much better than the GOP mess in the
house version where the chairman appears to be collaborating with 
the white house..

Seems the GOP is always trying to hide from the their voters or make a
speech with some kind of excuse. They may think all this stuff will go away,
but I don't think so. If the GOP leadership is trying to protect Trump or his
people because of  some wrong doing it will come back to haunt them. The
public is getting tired of them ducking for cover instead of answering
questions.

People tend to forget, but the two houses of congress are differenct in
that the house of representatives represent their voters. IN the Senate
they look at the bills from the house and decide if they are for the
good of the country, not because the voters like it or not. That doesn't
mean a senator won't listen to the voters, but they try to have a cooler
head about things. Not always of course. They are humans after all., but
I am not all that sure about the majority leader of the senate. He has
a bad habit of putting party over the public good, not counting his personal
interpretation of the constitution which tends to follow the party line.

Polititicans when in office too long tend to think they know what's best
for the people, and rich people tend to think the same. It seems to be
part of human nature to feel success equals intelligence. In reality it's
usually more about luck and good judgment. I heard some of Trumps
supporters voted for him because he seemed so smart on his Tv show
the Apprentice. This shows voter ignorance. Tv shows are fiction by
their design. Trump was scripted to be smart and wise on the show. It
likely had little or no reflection of the man his self. Just shows with
enough advertising anyone can look good. Trump is smart in that he
knows how to make a listener feel good with his lies. That's why he is
called a Con Artist by New Yorkers.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 31, 2017, 11:24:58 am
Trump day 70
Our man Trump is trying to get out from under the Russian connection, but
even with him trying to tweet away from it. There may not be much of a
connection, but if that's the case why doesn't he come clean.

General Flynn is offering to testify if given immunity. Nothing on what
he might be willing to talk about. Perhaps about the Russian connection
with Trump or his picks.

Immunity may be hard for Flynn to get. During the election Flynn as saying
if someone wanted immunity they were likely guity of something. This isn't
always true, but it is odd he would be asking for it after saying what he
did.

I imagine there will be careful consideration before giving any immunity as
it could cause problems with other investigations.

GOP
The house intelligence committee is still stalled, but the senate committee
hearing is proceeding. In the senate hearing there was testomony about
Trump using Russian tactics in his campaign. Does this mean Trump was
tutored by the Russians? Or did he just like the Russian style of politics?
Hopefully more will be found as time goes by.

The speaker was making excuses for Trump saying the president was just
frustrated when he said he would reach out to the Democrats. In other words.
"Trump didn't mean it guys." Or something to that effect. The Tea party
who gave the GOP clout against Obama is causing the GOP problems now.
They are very conservative which makes it hard for the moderates to follow
them. Causing a split in the GOP.

Dem
They are pressuring the GOP to investigate in a bi partasan way to make sure
the Trump campaign isn't connected to a Russian conspearacy or not. Also those
in the white house as well.

The democrats are going to filibusterer against Judge Gorsuchs for the Supremme
court. The judge hasn't been open about his feelings about womens rights, voting
rights, LGBT rights, or health care. Also with Trump under investigation his
picks should be held in limbo untill the investigations are cleared up.

The GOP wants this  big business supporting judge so they will likely do what 
ever it takes to put him in the court. Instead of changing rules they should 
change to a more moderate judge that supports the constitution instead of
the GOP.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 01, 2017, 11:27:43 am
Trump day 71
Seems our man Trump is still trying to prove Obama put
him under surveillance. Well If I had been in Obama's
place I sure would have had any one who plays with
the Russians watched. Especially someone like Trump. A
man who has had  deallings with oligarchs. A gang who
jumps when Putin says "Rabbit"

Trump claims he was too busy running the country when he
was facing a law suit for calling a woman a lier about his
sexual misconduct. The judge may give him a call when
he decides to go on a vacation. Personally I feel he has one
about every weekend in Florida.

Trump doesn't like judges or courts. They hold him accountable
for his business practices. smf activities. I kind of think he feels if
someone looses money dealing with him it's their fault not his.

GOP
I wonder how the GOP will feel when the Russians hack the RNC. Sure
it's nice when the Russians attack their opponents, but they may be
next.Putin like Trump is looking out for his self.

Will the Speaker remove the chairman of the intelligence committee? At
this tim e he appears to be just as dishonerable as the Chairman and
Trump.
 
The GOP seems to be covering up something. If not why not have a special
commission to investigate all this business with Rusaia and the hacking.
The way it is they are and Trump are doing the investigation.  how can we
be sure there isn't any thing crooked going on? I think any time there is
a question or investigation involving one brance of government a special
commission independant of politics should be created.

Most of the news this week has been about the house intelligence committee
and it's chairman. And his apparent complicity with Trump who is being
investigated. Then General Flynn has said he would talk if given immunity.
I think Trump may end up giving Flynn a pardon. After all Flynn was very
loyal to Trump during the campaign.

The ACA replacement was more about a Trillion dollar Tax cut than to help
people have good insurance for health. It seems the GOP is out to discredit
Obama any way they can. Even if it hurts the people. I don't think the GOP
as a whole is racist, but I think many are. Other wise why did they say no
for almost everything Obama tried to do. This hasn't happeend with any
president before.

We should remember the GOP believes the richer we make the rich the
more jobs they will create. Well if you make items they like to buy you
probably would be busy. They don't buy regular houses or furniture or
the average car. It''s all luxery items. Millions for huge homes, filled
with musem quality artifacts. It's the rest of us who buy the items
most people have jobs to make. Also they buy things from other countries
like Trump who bought the steel, and aluminum for his towers from China.
When Trump opened his hotel there in washington DC he bought silverware
and china from other countries. He claimed he couldn't get it in the USA. It
wasn't that it was a way to save money.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 02, 2017, 12:01:50 pm
Trump day 72
Our man Trump made lots of promises during the campaign. I wonder
how many of his supporters are still liking the man they voted for? Of
course some voted for Trump because they didn't like Clinton. Not
because they really liked Trump. Perhaps that's why his support is starting
to fall away.

Trump is starting to make threats againsts the Tea Party.  He isn't likely to
cause them much worry since they have their own billionares supporting
them. This may seem like a good idea to Trump in the short term, but it
could split the party even more. Even errode his own base of support.
Many conservatives voted for Trump only to help defeat Clinton. They don't
really like Trump that much. If he starts working with the democrats his
base will likely desolve. Many of the GOP feel the democrats are too far to
the left politically. The Tea Party (freedom caucus as they like to call them
selves) want to make government as small as possible. Just for the defense
of the country, print money, and to enforce the laws dealing wiht other
countries. Much as it was in the beginning.

It's the beginning of the baseball season. The president usually throse the
first ball to start the season, but Trump says he is too busy. It's likely he
can't throw the ball far enough to keep from looking like as they used to say
a girl. It turns out he did play when he was a teen ager, but was tossed out
for trying to club someone with a bat after striking out. This is a guy who said
he was the best player in New York against players like Mickey Mantle.

Oh Trump is out on the Golf course for the 14th time sence took office.
It's ok to play golf, but not every weekend. If he can't do the job then
resign. The Job of President is for the good of the country not the good
of the president.

Trump is increaseing attacks in the middle east. He ran saying he was
going to get us out of a war, but so far he is puitting more of our soldgers
on the ground to fight a war there. More civilians are dieing since Trump
took office. Apparently at our hands. This will only help Isis and other
terrorist groups when they say the west is out to kill Moslems.

GOP
Congress and Trump should be working to improve our infrastructure
instead of worrying about tax breaks for the rich. If road and bridges
fall down the economy will start to fail. Not counting all the food we
eat, and medicine many need. Also without good roads the gas
stations would go dry. If you use propane for heating you could end
up cold. Parts are needed daily to keep water and power working some
where across the country. Much of our infrastructure was built 50 or more
years ago. Our politicians have been lazy and more interessted in pork
barrel projects than keeping roads and bridges up to date.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 03, 2017, 12:29:57 pm
Trump day 73
The Chinese leader is meeting with Trump. Can Trump work out a deal
with China to curb North Korea's plans to deploy nukes on missles that
can strike the USA. This is a very dangerous situation for the world. China
doesn't seem to be interested in working to stop the North Korean mad
man. They also seem to be against us from doing anything to  stop
North Korea either. So do we wait for North Korean to go crazy and
start a war with nukes, or do we work to destroy their ability to do so?
We can only hope Trump or his people can find the right path.

Trump is meeting with the Egyption leader. A man who wasn't allowed
to come to the white house because of human rights abuses. 
Trump appears to be worried more about security of the middle east
than Egypts treatment of human rights.

Our man Trump sent his son in law to Irac as Trumps envoy. Seems
like a job for a more experienced man, but Trump has fired many 
experinced people who know diplomacy. So I guess he has to fall
back on family. Perhaps Trump doesn't trust anyone else.

Trump is still working to revive the idea of getting rid of the ACA. He
hates to move on even after failing. Will this fruther delay the GOP
keeping them from working to save taxes for their rich friends.
Only time will tell.

There are more reports talking about how much money Trumps
family has. Also who they owe money to. If they owe a lot to
foreign countries, will this keep Trump from making America
first as he promised?  Having a lot of money isn't a problem
legally. It's how they use it.

GOP
The GOP is using every excuse to vote for Trumps picks,
including a judge for the supreme court. They claim the
democrats would do the same thing. That's a poor excuse
to do something wrong because their opponents would do it.
Sometimes I think politicians act like kids instead of adults.

The leader of the senate is all but promising he will change
the rules if there is a filibusterer againsts the appointment
of Judge Gorsuch. Some may say Trump will just nominate
another conservative Judge. So why fight it?  I think the
democrats want to be on record as opposing this judge. So
if he makes decisions in favor of the far right they can use
it when they run for office. It's a shame the constitution wasn't
written to keep a simple majority from removing the filibusterer
that can stop a supreme court judge vote. I think we can be sure
neither party would want it added to the constitution.

Of course there have been surprises with supreme court judge
appointments.  Some haven't been as conservative as the GOP
have hoped. Also some haven't been as liberal as hoped either.
So time will tell.

I just hope this judge follows the constitution, not to give religious
zealots a way to take rights away from people they don't agree with.

The court shouldn't favor the Right or the Left. They should be in
the middle. It's not their place to create jobs, or decide if something
is moral according to any religion. It's their job to decide if a law
or a decision by the president or lower court is constitutional or not.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 04, 2017, 12:43:43 pm
Trump day 74
Our man Trump is letting his son n law be a defecto secretary of state.
He is running around the world talking to leaders. Perhaps as a go between
for his dad n law Trump. Or perhaps Trump is afraid to go to the middle
east since it might be hazardus to his health. I understand he is almost
a germaphobe.

Trump seems he has to hide his connections to Russia. He woud do
better being open with it.

Trump is still waking up early and tweets like some bird in spring.
It's  shame it's little about anything. Talking about Clinton. The
wire taps, and other nonsense. It's time Trump went to work. He claims
to be smart, but he doesn't show it.

Trump talked about jobs in ihs campaign, but he has done little to improve
the jobs. Oh he claims he is, but thosands are loosing jobs. Coal is not
a high job maker anymore. They use drag lines to carve the tops off small
mountains to get to the coal instead of digging mine shafts underground.

Even though Trump and the Speaker set the ACA replacement aside to
work on tax reform and infrastructure before returning it. They are
making noises that they want to go back to it. This may just be hot
air, but with the big tax break for the rich built into the replacement
they may try it again.

Trump invited the Eygption dictator to the White House even though he
has little clout in the middle east thest days.

We may be at war with North Korea soon if China fails to get the leader
of North Korea to back off with his missle program. I have a hunch the
little fat dictator has a fraidy hole or two to hide in if he decides to
starts a war with nukes.

Trump and the Speaker made a show they were respecting Autizim day when
the health bill they promoted was going to cut funding for the same. Such
hypocracy never fails the GOP.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 05, 2017, 12:16:43 pm
Trump day 75
Our man Trump is going to the freedom caucus to see what they would
accept in a health bill to replace the ACA. I have a hunch anything
they would agree to is getting rid of the ACA period or stripping it
of covering people who really need the plan with subtitles. Covering
people who have exsiting cronic conditions at a reasonable price is
not going to happen because there is no profit in it. Unless they charge
prices that exceed the yearly inncome of the average worker.

Trump may be leading us into a war with his enexperience. Hopefully he
will listen to people who understand the seriousness of fighting wars.
Just because we have a very powerful military isn't going to keep some
man like the leader of North Korea from destroying much of the south korean
infrastructure. We may destroy him, but not before many 1000's are killed.
Many will be americans. 300,000 live in South Korea. There isn't any
way to evacuate them fast enough

China wants us to leave North Korea alone. China is trying to take over the
south China sea. Russia is pushing to control countries around them. We can't
fight everyone at once even there wasn't any nukes.

Trump is ramping up troop deplyment in the middle east.Trump complained
when Obama sent troops there. Obama asked Congree about going into
syeria, but they just sat on their hands. Trump hides his dieticians to
send more trops. Or even saying why he is.

If you support Trump and the GOP here is part of
what they are doing for you.

removed Fee reductions for first time home buyers
removed Protection for alaskan bears ..
remove clean air regulations.
regulations for Coal mining.
signed the bill to allow internet providers to sell your browers tracking.
signed a bill to let the mentally ill to buy guns.
lessen health regulations for pesticides, clean air or clean water.
the EPA may be gone in the near future.
Reports that Trump is having private citizens investigated who don't agree with
him.

Heck we may even have fires burning on rivers again. Fish floating you
can scoop up in nets. It will save money for the big corporations,
but you will be more likely to get sick or die of cancer.

I am sure there are several more that can be credited to
Trump and the GOP. I imagine if it will make big corportaions
money they will do it. Why? because it will create jobs jobs
jobs. Not saying they will be good jobs, or if you will have
clean water to drink or good air to breath, but there will be
jobs galore according to Trump and the GOP. Though I think it's
more about making rich people richer. Not counting stepping on
minorities, LGBT, women, and the poor.

Hundreds of businesses are going under across the country. I wonder
how the 1000's of people loosing their jobs feel about Trump
now? Polling shows Trump at 35% approval 57% not. Rather low for
a president in his first 100 days. Perhaps the public who were convenced
Trump was a better choice than Clinton are having second thoughts. Well
it's a bit late now, because the GOP isn't going to impeach him. That mgiht
change if Trump drops to 25%. But that's not likely unless he starts a war
no one wants.

I hope I am wrong, and Trump will be able to make the country better for all.
Not just to make the crooked billionaires richer.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 06, 2017, 11:52:28 am
Trump day 76
Our man Trump said what happened in Syeria was a crime against
humanity. Also he said he looked at Syerias leader differently now.
It's hard to say since Trump changes with the breeeze, but it sounded
like he may have thoughts of trying to prevent more chemical attacks.
He will have to be careful. Putin has already claimed a bomb hit a
chemical storage depot belonging to the rebels, and not a chemical
attack.

Trumps pick of Bannon to the security council was removed by Trump.
The reason given was Bannon was there to look after Flynn. Then why
did Trump wait over a month after Flynn was fired to pull Bannon from
the security council? Bannon is a far right polictical hack with no
business on the security council anyway. So the country is better off
with him removed.

Trump still hasn't filled 512 government jobs after 75 days. He has
time for golf, and weekends in Florida. But not enough time to do
his job.

It was reported Judge Gorsuch is guilty of plagiarism. Trump claims its
fake news or just plain wrong. It's doubtful this will change the GOPs
plans to shove Gorsuch onto the Supreme Court. Can't disappoint big
business GOP supporters by not putting him on the court.

GOP
Our friendly Vice Presiedent has been talking to some congress
members trring to revive the ACA replacement bill. Trump is still
upset because the first try failed, and is pushing to try again. It's
part of Trumps big tax cut plan for his rich supporters. Not to help
peple get better health care.

I have a hunch they are planning to get a plan that will pass the
house ready, then put iup for a vote so quick the public won't have
time to tell their representatives to not vote for it. This may work
but if it will pass muster for the conservatives it will likely cause
the GOP big losses in 2018. I don't think those moderates in the
house want to loose their seats to please the tea party.

Time will tell, but congress will be on easter vacation (bless their hearts
they work soooo hard)  over the next week or two. I have a hunch they
will be hiding from their voters. at least some of them.




 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 07, 2017, 01:14:56 pm
Trump day 77
Our man Trump made the decision to strike a airbase in syeria.  Our navy
fired around 60 cruise missles. None damaged the runways. Perhaps in
case a Russian plane needed to land later. One wonders if Trump talked
with Russia about an attack.. Probably won't ever know.

It's odd Trump was so concerned about Syerian children when he has
blocked them from coming to the USA to be safer. I am inclined it was a
descian based on politics as much as to let the leader of Syera know we
don't approve of chemical attacks. If Trump was so concerned why was he
saying he was ok with Syerias leader a week earlier. Chemical attack
s have been done several times before now.

Trump has claimed over the past several years he was against military
action in the middle east. Guess he changed his mind, or wanted his poll
numbers to rise. It's a dangerous game Trump could be playing and I
hope it turns out for the best. It will be interesting to see what Putin says
about it. I heard we warned the Russians to move out of the way.

Trump needs to get other countries on board against Syeria. Otherwise
the people in the middle east may think this is Americans sticking their
nose into their affairs. If middle east countries were worried about the
people of Syeria they would take care of the job them selves.

GOP
Is the attack legal? The GOP isn't giving Trump a hard time over this
attack. In fact they are saying it protects our troops from a Syerian attack.
I didn't know we were at war with Syeria. But we might be now.

Congress should vote to au8torize this action, but they are trying to say
it's all part of the anti terrorizim thing, and doesn't need it.

Dem
They are mixed on the issue, but feel congress should get involved
instead of just watching.


In the end did Trump have a gut reaction to a picture or was it politics?
USA Presidents have a bad habit of geting involved in other peoples wars.
Military attacks can often lead to getting a lot of our troops killed.

Some Police actions in the past.
Korean war
Vietnam war
Kuwait war
Iraq war

There were some in eastern Europe, and one in Panama if
i remember right.

It's no wonder authoritarian governments build up massive
armies. They expect the USA to attack them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 08, 2017, 11:53:38 am
Trump day 78
It seems strange to me that Trump has been so pro Russia, and so hands
off  Syria he would see one news report about a chemical attack and go off
the rails and turn everything around. When he hasn't cared about Syrian kids
in the past. There were 2 other chemical attacks just prior to the one Trump
was talking about. I think his emotion was an act for the camera. Remember
he is a trained actor. Besides a leader whose actions are based on emotion
is a danger to us all.

This smells of a possible deal where Putin may have put Trump up to
attacking the air base. No damage to the runways. Limited to fuel, hangers,
radar, and some Syrian aircraft. Now it's all done according to Trump, and
the airfield is currently in use after the attack.

Putin hasn't even made it a big thing other than calling it an agressive 
attack on a soverign nation. This chemical attack made Putin look bad
because he had supposedly removed all of Syrians chemical weopons.
He was either made a fool of or didn't do a good job. Either way Syria
made Putin look bad and  Putin is not one to forgive.

Yes it's a conspiracy theory, but it has good possibilites. After all Putin
still plans to meet with the Secretary of state next week. I kind of think he 
would have at least refused that meeting if he was really upset with Trump.

Perhaps Putin saw Trumps polling going down and wanted to help make him
look presidential.. I wonder how long it is before Trump tweets his way into
something weird again? Also some of Trumps supporters have left him over
this attack. Trump was supposed to be america first, not world first.

Also it seems this attack may have caused some arguments within the white
house. Bannon was reported threatening to quit. It appears Trump is listening
more to  his family than Bannon or even the Vice President. What kind of
shakeup occurs is hard to say. The far right isn't happy with Trumps attack
on Syeria.  Only time will tell.

GOP
Well our GOP got their way today. We will have a new Supreme Court judge. Trumps pick to please Big business and the GOP has been approved. I hope I
and others are wrong about him being against voting rights, womens rights,
LGBT rights, and  Minority rights. Only time will tell. Some judges have been disappointing to the  GOP in the past as have the Democrats. We can always
hope he is a better man than his record shows him to be.

The GOP seems to be falling in line with Trump on his attack. Many are saying
it was a good response. Odd they didn't vote to approve of Obama wanting to
punish Syeria for doing the same thing only worse in 2013.

We should remember the GOP cares more about winning than rules of conduct.
It dosn't matter if it's limiting voting, or stepping on the rights of others. It it
gets money from the rich or takes votes from their oppoinets they will do it.
It is a sad thing to say about a major party, but I fear it's a fact. Those in the
GOP best remember governing in a nonpartasan way will end in desaster for
them and possibly our country. Dictatorships work this way. I think the GOP
is afraid of their demise. The country is moving away from conservationism 
and they want to stop it.

Dem
They are saying Congress should vote to approve attacks on Syeria before
Trump orders any more of them. The GOP still doesn't seem to want to be
on record by voting for it.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 09, 2017, 11:51:46 am
Trump day 79
Our man Trump said his meeting with China was productive. Probably
not that much or Trump would have been bragging about how good a
deal maker he is.

Trump said he has no plans to  attack Syeria again, but leaves it open.
So it's hard to say. Trump shouldn't be attacking anyone unless there
is a plan for a ending, and the support of other countries in the area.
Anyone can pull the trigger, but it takes a good leader to finish it. Even
then it can lead to bad events. WWI was started by an assassination.

In todays world it's better to punish with sanctions instead of bombs,
bullets or missiles. Many bad leaders are very rich men, so cutting off
their ability to buy or sell goods hurts them much more than bombing
one of their air bases or those they support.

GOP
They claim Trump had the authority to bomb Syeria, they claim it
follows the approval to attack nations who support terrorist. I don't
know if Syeria supports anyone but it's leader. They don't like ISIS.
They even sounded confused, because they had been letting the
USA attack ISIS in their country without opposition. Syeria could
legally tell us to stay out if they wanted to.

The constitution says Congress is the only part of the government
who can start a war. The president can defend against an attack, but
not start one. Congress should get it's act together and vote to either
support Trump or not.

Tax day is bringing out protests against Trump not releasing his taxes.
70% of the people want to see them. So our congressonal members will
be getting an earful about not forcing Trump to release them, and not
really investigating Trumps Russian connection. They don't like the idea
of Trump refilling the swamp with rich elites either.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 10, 2017, 12:32:13 pm
Trump day 80
Our man Trump seems to be having troubles keeping his people on
the same page. His son n law, and Bannon appear to be at odds. I
think Trumps son n law will end up being top dog, but the first 
family has to get it's act together if Trump is going to anything
done.

As far as Trump turning against Putin. It will take a while
to see if anything changes. We don't know what might be going
on behind the scenes. 

Trump has ordered a naval strike force to stand off the Korean
peninsula. I hope this doesn't push the North Korean leader into
doing something dumb. The Syerian strike has bound to have made
him a bit nervous. Hopefully China has some people keeping a leash
on him. They don't want a united democratic Korea, but I doubt
if they want a war either.

If there is a war products from south Korea will get hard to find.
They sell a lot of electronics and vehicles. If I owned a factory
there I would be sure I had the info to rebuild somewhere else.

Our friendly politicans are on spring break. I wonder how many
will be willing to meet with their voters?  I am sure they got a
overwheming cry to not approve Judge Gorsuch, but they did
anyway. Claiming the democrats wouldn't vote for any Trump
nomination. All Trump had to do was nominate a judge who had
the public interest in mind as a moderate, not right wing rhetoric.

The hard right would have the country run as a theocracy. You
only need to look at the middle east to see how that works.  I am
sure they would claim it would only be for guidance, but I am very
sure it would lead to laws punishing anyone who didn't follow
the state religion. If you doubt it all you have to do is look for 
"Blue Laws" Most of them were created to stop work or business
being  open on Sunday, but some went farther to include morality
laws to cover activities religious people felt were sinful. Fortuantly
most of these laws are ignored or have been removed. When I was
a kid the only place open was the bus station on sunday.

I am not against religion, but it should be used to set a good example
not punish those who decide not to follow the faithful. In the past
religion was a powerful force in any community and it still is in many
places.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 11, 2017, 01:16:15 pm
Trump day 81
Our man Trump is saying Syeria must stop bombing it's
people or he might do more.  Well I wonder why he didn't
have our military destroy the chemical weopons that were
at the air base? Or all the weopons stored there? Just hiting
aircraft, and hangers did little to stop or prevent fruther
attacks. Causes one to wonder why he held back? was it
a deal of some kind with Putin to keep the strike minimal?

Many people feel it was a good thing for Trump to do, but
a lot of people come out to support a military action that
looks good with no losses on our side. Numbers were 51%
liked it 40 % didn't.

GOP
Well sure enough most of the GOP members are hiding from
their voters while on break. Those who do talk to voters seem
to have the opinion it's just democrats fussing at them.

There is an election in Kansas today. The GOP is pouring huge
sums of money into the race hoping to not loose the house seat.
I guess they are afraid if the democrat wins it will scare members
of congress out of voting for the GOP agenda.

It's not too likely the democrat will win, but it does show the
GOP is worried.

Dem
They are out to win the few seats that were vacated by
the GOP for government jobs under Trump. If the Democrats
win even a few of the seats the GOP will be sweating because
the seats are in GOP strongholds. It would show they could
be in serious trouble for the 2018 election.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 12, 2017, 12:09:47 pm
Trump day 82
Our man Trumps 100 day honeymoon is drawing to a close.
He and the GOP are falling behind their planned schedual for
getting rid of the ACA, Tax cut, Trumps wall, and infrastructure .

Even though Trumps son n law is making claims the Syerian
attack proves Trump isn't in bed with Putin. Reports of the
russian connection became stronger with an investigation of
a Trump campaign man was working for Russia. The man had
a history of connections with Runssian spys. Odd thing Trump
tried to say he didn't know the man even though he did. Just
another lie. Only this one makes Trump look bad.

Trump is still havine trouble keeping his people  in line. His
Press secretary caused an uproar over saying Hitler didn't
use chemical weopns on his people. Well the Jews and other
undesirables in germany met their end in gas chambers. M ost
any fifth grader knows that.

It seems the far right is steamed at Trumps Syerian attack. I heard
Bannon didn't have a problem with brown people being killed.  Be it
gas or bombs. There is talk that Trumps daughter pushed Trump into
attaking Syeria.

I would hope military attacks arenl't made because Trumps family
doesn't like something.

Seems the Trump administration is all over the place on what to do
on most everything. Trump needs to sit down and work out a plan for
his administration or  he could find his self at the end of four years
nothing much done.  Except maybe to improve his golf game.

GOP
Well they did manage to hold on to the house seat from Kansas.
But their man only won by 7%. That sounds good for them, but
normally they would have won by almost 30% over a democrat
in a district that is mostly republican by their design. Not counting
the millions spent in advertising.

There are 4 more open seats, so you can be sure the money will
flow like water from a fire hose.They will do everying they can
to hold those seats. Time will tell, but there is a good chance
they will loose some of them.

Dem
Even though the GOP is claiming the protests are all bought
and paid for. (Perhaps its something they do) The anti Trump/GOP
movement is still well under way, and growing. About the only
theing that could save them is big growth in the economey or
a war. People tend to stand behind the leadership in times
of war. At least untill the body bags start comming home.

The way things are going we could be in one before the year
is out. Hopefully Trump will learn how to govern before then.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 13, 2017, 11:55:27 am
Trump day 83
Our man Trump is making more like a real president
again. Is this real or just more lies. He acts like
he never saw children killed before on TV.. There are
children around the world dying. Many from hunger.
Many by bad people. Firing missiles at a country because
they hurt kids is impossible for one country to do, and
would likely cause more deaths than not. Trump should
have went to other nations, and had them complain as well.
This would be more successful than military action.

If Trump doesn't get the state department put back
together it's going to be hard to keep up with
world problems. If we don't we may have to hide
behind a wall. The world isn't like it was 200
years ago when we could hide behind two oceans. We
have to deal with a dangerous world even if we don't
want to.

It would be nice if we could get along with
Russia. But we have to understand how Russia
Feels. Russia has been invaded several times
down through history, so they are probably
perinoid about any chance of being invaded
again. This is probably why they want to
have countries around them as a bugger against
invasion. The USA isn't wanting to invade them
but some future leadership of our country might.
That is what I have heard them say. We have to be
prepaired for a war. Never again will we be
invaded. They keep a large force close to the
boarder with China, just in case it's needed.

Problem now Putin being a crook feels he has to
keep control or end up dead or in prison. Not only
him but his oligarch friends. I think the Russian
people want peace, and a good life for their selves
and famiies. But with Putin on their necks they can't
do much, short of an revolution.

Trump needs to talk to people that understand Russian
politics. Putin like Trump hates to loose, and with
two men butting heads a lot of people could end up dead.
Trump needs to  give Putin a way to save face. If not he
may start a war. One that could end up very bad for us
all.

I fear Trump has been playing with Russia wanting to
get elected. Now he doesn't know how to deal with a
bully who is bigger than he is. The Trump campaign had
several people who were connected one way or another
to russia. Perhaps thinking it's just good business not
realizing Putin had more than business in mind.

Trump tells China they need to  help get North Korea to
loose their nukes.. Well China wants to keep the North
Koreans friendly to them so it's likely they will stand back
and say use peaceful methods. Which is probably a good
idea. To protect against a missile strike from North Korea
we should set up missile defenses to deter an attack. Then
try to appease this mad man in the meantime. Bearing our
teeth will only give this guy more reason to strike first.

GOP
I was mistaken about the amount of money the GOP spent
on the Kansas election. Instead of millions it was #150.000.00
Which is still alot of money for a house race. We need reforms
on how much money that can't be spent on elections like this.
It's hard if not impossible to run unless your very well known
or a millionaire. Also get rid of these packs which can spend
huge sums for a canidate they want to win.

A Poll shows a interesting response to Trumps desision
about firing missiles into Syeria.

2013 When Obama wanted to GOP 22% for. Democrats 28% for.
2017 Trump does fire them. GOP  86% for. Democrats 27% for.

Some say democrats are the same as the GOP when following
politicians. Well this seems to disprove that. Those in
the GOP seem to follow a leader more than Democrats do.

If the protest movement holds the GOP could loose over a
100 seats in the house  in 2018, and several in the senate.

People should remember though. We will still have a GOP
president who can veto. Even if Trump is impeached. His
VP would take over and would likely veto any progressive
bills. If people want change they will need to stand
solid through the 2024 election to push the country to
the center or to the left, and you can be sure the
rich guys in the GOP will be working hard to regain
control.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 14, 2017, 11:56:26 am
Trump day 84
Our man Trump appears to have given the military a free hand in deciding
what weopons they wish to use. A 10 ton bomb was used to destroy tunnel
systems in Afghanistan against ISIS. The President should give final
aproval for special weopon use. The military see a job to do and likely
don't consider the politics before using them.

Perhaps this weapon was used to show North Korea even undergroud tunnels
may not be good protection. Of course if North Korea decides to use a nuke,
then all bets may be off. I fear the Korean people will suffer more than anyone
else. We might be able to knock down any long range missile aimed at the USA,
but that wouldn't keep North Korea from putting a bomb on a boat and sailing
into one of our harbors. Even a detonation 3 miles out would devastate a
coastal city.

Trump is threatening to sabotage the ACA by stopping the substitutes if
the Democrats don't help pass his health bill. It seems Trump is ready to
sacrifice the GOP by taking health care from many millions of people. Just
because they waon't pass his plan. I kind of think Trump is about to get
a rude awakening that he is not a dictator. The Congress isn't under his
control. He is not a CEO of the USA.

Trump signed an order to allow states to not give federal funds to health
care organizations for women who also provide abortions. Planned Parenthood
and others. The GOP has been promising to prevent federal funding of clinics
who preform abortions. It's mainly a promise to religous groups.

GOP
They don't seem to care that Planned Parenthood and others have reduced
abortions over the years. Getting rid of them will likely increase
abortions because women won't be able to get contraceptives and guidence
to keep from getting pregnant in the first place.

There are reports the GOP leadership knew people in the Trump campaign
had contact with Russians before the elections last summer. So why did
they not start an investigation of Trump and his campaign? It appears
the GOP was more interested in winning the white house than to protect
the election from russian involvement. If true they should hang their
heads in shame. Winning by any means is just as bad as cheating.

The Justice department is making excuses for bad activites by the
police. The head of the justice department went to the Mexican
boarder to make a speech about bad criminals crossing the boarder.

Shameful deportations are happening across the country. Including
taking mothers from small children. The Trump administration is
moving to hire private detention centers which are more like prisons
to hold people for an inteterment amount of time prior to deportation.
Trump claims it's for the criminal element, but they are holding people
of all ages, criminal or not.

Also the hiring practices for officers to pick up illegal aliens were
supposed to be such they wouldn't haire people with records of
mistreateing people or those with a bad attitude has been relaxed.
Apparently due to not finding enough good people willing to  do the
job.

I hope there is enough oversignt to prevent human rights abuse.

Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 15, 2017, 11:56:46 am
Trump day 85
The use of military weapons over the pas week seems to not
have much of a plan associated with them. Could it be that
Trump is using the miltary to gain public support? This might
work as long as we don't start seeing body bags coming
home. If he tries anything in North Korea there willl likely be
several thousand body bags on his hands.

Trump may want to be a famous president, but if he starts
a war, with nukes killing millions. He will likely be historically
infamous with the name of Trump one of shame.

When the secretary of state met with Putin he failed to
meet with civil society as had been done for many years.
Be it democrat or Republican. Secretary of state. We should
recognize that Putin isn't popular with everyone.

Though Trumps actions may look like he and Putin are at odds,
even more evidence is coming to light showing a possible colusion
between the Trump campaign and Russia before the election.

Trumps justice department is following ideas of Bannon and other
of the far right. Treating people like criminals wihtout due process.
The leader of the justice department is trying to make the public
think all Latinos are dangerous criminals.  It's this kind of activity
can lead to a police state where all of us are at risk of loosing our
rights.

GOP
Will the GOP follow the constitution or only think of them selves.
Some of their rich supporters are very selfish people who are wanting
to get richer, and are pushing to take food and health care from the
disadvantaged and working poor of our country.  This isn't much
different than what is happening in Russia. They want tough police tactics
claiming to clear the streets of crime. This kind of thing will just drive
crime underground  not get rid of it.

Simple ideas will not cure complex problems. They stand up claiming
they are going to do this and that, but rarely tell how they plan to do it.

Over 70% of the public wants Trump to release his tax records,
but the GOP won't vote to make him do it. Instead they stand up
and make excuses for Trump. Even for the millions of tax dollars
Trump is wasting for his weekend trips to Florida, and letting his
wife stay at Trump Tower, both of which costs us dearly. Obama
spent less than a 100 million in travel over 8 years. Trump is nearly
30 million in 3 months.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 16, 2017, 11:52:10 am
Trump day 86
Our man Trump seems to have flipped on a few issues.

In his campaign he was against attacking Syeria. Now it's ok.
Nato is obsolete, nnw we need  it.
China is messing with currency. Now they are not.
He used to say he was smarter than our Military Generals. Now he
lets them decide on weapon use.
He said he would limit lobbyests access, but many are getting waivers
to lobby for big business.

One big change is Trump plans to not report who he is seeing ore visiting
the white house.  What is  he planning to do that  he wants to hide?
Could it be a cover for making money for him and family?

His daughter said she was for womens rights. Where was she when
Trump signed a order to let states cut funding of woments reproductive
health care.

Trump has always been one to hide his activities unless it's something he
feels it's good for his image. So apparently he is worried that he might see
someone who if known might hurt his image.

One thing that hasn't been talked about. Is how the Wall will affect wildlife
by blocking natural migration routes. Sure birds can floy over it, but the
rest will be blocked like the Gray Wolf, Cougars, White tailed deer, and
others. Trump and many in the GOP care litttle for the environment or
wildlife.

GOP
Congress is saying. Trump is learning and is doing a great job. Even some
Democrats are giving praise for the military action.  It seems people like
to see bombs falling on bad people. At least as long as we don't get hurt
in the process.  Some of these people avoded military service because
they had money., so they should even be talking.

Thousands of people were out protesting on the 15th wanting Trump
to release his tax record. It's doubtful he will. Perhaps if the Democrats
gain control of congress all will be exposed. Including our man Trump.

There was a clash between protesters and Trump supporters in California
Investigations are going on to see who started it. Since protests have
been non violent one wonders if some radical faction was involved.

Perhaps the Chinese leader give Trump a good lecture about North
Korea and the politics there. What they are willing to do or not. It
appears China isn't happy with the North Korean leaders plans to
put a nuke on a misssiler. Much less starting a war with the south or
America.

Hopefully China can convince the North Korean l ead to back off,
but only time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 17, 2017, 11:52:05 am
Trump day 87
It's a long holiday weekend, so Trump has been in Florida. Airforce 2 flew
his wife and son down to be with him. I guess his boy had an easter vaction
from a private school so could get away for a few days.

Trump went to easter services near his home in Florida. I doubt if he goes to
churcch except for show. Most everything he does is for his image instead of
the country.

North Korea attempted to fire a missile on sunday after their big parade of military
weapons. It's failure was a embarrassment to their leader.. I have a hunch those
responsible for the launch were afraid and full of excuses when the their leader
asked why it failed. Nothing new when living under a wild dictator who kills his
relatives and followers for any suspicion of being against him. I understand if a man
protests he and his family are either killed or imprisoned. Including three generations

Shows how paranoid this crazy dictator really is. Perhaps he studied Hitler, a man who
hung most of his advisers when things went wrong. One might wonder how he could
get people to follow him. Well all children are taught from a early age that he is a god
and the USA is planning to invade their country. To rape and inslave the people

Trump is letting China have a run at North Korea. They claim they will work to stop North
koreas plan to put nukes on missiles. If we give them time. They have said this in the past
so time will tell if they follow through this time.

If we start a war, it's likely millions could die in Korea before we USA could stop their
attacks on South Korea.  It is such a sharm the leader of North Korea is such a idiot.
North Korea and it's people could live well given the chance to be more than a police
state.

GOP
They are still on spring break. Some are talking to voters. Most not. Some that are
do it over telephone networks. They and Trump claim all the protests are bought
and paid for by the democrats.  I have a hunch if the GOP loose control in 2018
Trump will claim it was due to illegal voting.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 18, 2017, 01:16:51 pm
Trump day 88
Our man Trump did make it back to the white house for the yearly
easter egg roll. Trump was camped out on a balcony with family
and someone in a rabbit suit. The style was similar to the rabbits
in Zootopia. Those stiff pop stick ears.

I guess Trump was afraid to mix with the kids on the ground so he
sent the atterney general down to read a rabbit story to the kids.
Oddly enough the story was about a rabbit who left home lookinng
for a better life, but decided to return home. Makes one wonder
if it wasn't hinting at imigrants they feel should return home.

The justice department is pushing to deport all hispanic aliens
who are not documented. No word on the Asian aliens yet. Even
those who have no criminal record are being gathered up. Some
have been here for 15 years or more. They pick them up leaving
children with no parents to care for them. Seems the Trump
administration  only wants to create a huge deportation system
that will make millions of dollars for private detention centers.

Trump is claiming his 2016 tax return is under audit and can't be
released. Trump may be hiding who he owes money to and perhaps
money received from foreign governments, ect. In my opinion Trump
will never release them unless he is forced to.

Trump is asking businesses what regulations they don't like or
would like to see go away. BP the notorious oil exploration
outfit had a blow out in northern Alaska. Fortuantly it was
plugged after 2 days. If regulations are removed who knows
what risks these companies will take to make a dollar. Damage
to the enviroment and people is likely.

Trump is trying to say after almost 100 days he has done more to
make american better than Obama did during his 8 years. Even after
all his failures and no fix for health care, no wall, no tax reform,
and no infrastructure.. All he has really done is have the military
bomb Syeria, and Afganistan. Also he could be giving away the store
to get China to stop North Korea.

There is an election for a house representative today. It will be
interesting to see who wins. Across the country democrats have
been winning local elections over the GOP.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 19, 2017, 11:54:14 am
Trump day 89
Our man Trump congratualted the Turkish leader for winning a
referendum that basicly turned Turkey into a dictatorship. To
congratulate a dictator by an american president isn't good.
we should be pushing democratic ideals not authoritarianism.
Turns out Trump owns not one but two Trump towers in the
capital of Turkey. So is Trump being nice to protect his personal
interests or americas?

Trump has businesses around the world. It's time he released
his tax records to see what his financial interests are.

It appears the carrier strike force that Trump said was heading
for Korean waters was found 3500 miles and heading south not
headed for Korea. Trump should fire the people that told him
otherwise. unless of course it was another Trump lie.

GOP
The election in Georgia has been a big interest for both the
GOP and democrats. The GOP has been running hundreds perhaps
thousands of negatives attack ads trying to make the democrat
look bad. Encluding  robo calls from Trump calling the canidate
a liberal.

Looks like the Democrat failed to get 50% so a run off will be
done in June of this year. Even though he didn't quite get the
needed votes for an outright win he did do better than expected
in a district designed by the GOP to be easy for them to win.
I think gerrymandering should be made illegal for any party.
The people shouldn't have to defeat an artifical majority to
put a candidate of their choice in office. The GOP sure doesn't
like it unless it's to their advantage. They changed the rules in
the senate so they could appoint a judge to the supreme court
they wanted without having to deal with a artifical majority.

Seems many in politics are hypocrites anytime it's to gain
an advantage for them selves or their party.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 20, 2017, 12:23:10 pm
Trump day 90
Our man Trumps inauguration recieved over 100 million dollars
in donations. A show that likely only spent 50 million. One
might wonder what happened to the money that wasn't spent for
the inoguration of Trump. Money that can likely be used for
anything Trump wants to use it for. It has been claimed it will
be donated to charities. So far after almost 3 months there has
been no report of what they have done with it if anything at all.

Apparently there were secret meetings with Trump people and
Russian officals during the Trump transistion. Trump claims these
people had nothing to do with his administration. Even when they
had been part of the Trump campaign. Seems Trump wants to
hide from anyone who is under investigation for being secret
agents of Russia. Even though he knows them well.

Appears Exxons old CEO who is the Secretary of state is deciding
if Exxon can get a waiver to drill for oil in Russia again. This
is something Putin dearly wants. Perhaps this is why Putin wanted
Trump to be president. They need Exxons expertise to reach the
vast lakes of oil that rival those of the middle east.

GOP
Will the GOP ever hold Trump accountable for anything? The
investigation about his connection to Russia is continueing, but
will they follow the facts or end up saying nothing so they can
protect Trump? Only Time will tell. The country is changing,
moving to the left wither the GOP wants it or not. All they can
do is try to delay it.

Since the beginning of the 1980's only the top 10% of the
people has gained. The other 90% have stood still or lost
ground. Unless we change the laws to help the middle class
instead of the billionaires the middle class with continue to
go down, and the poor will become poorer. A vote for the GOP
appears to be a vote for the rich, not for those who work hard
every day.

If the politicians won't work to change it. Then we need to put
people in the parties that will make the democrats and GOP work
for the middle class, and not to make the billionaires richer.
This includes state, and local governments, not just the federal.

How long can the billionaire class keep the GOP in power? Only
the way to push back against them is to get out and vote. They
feed on fear and discontent to control the people.

The cable news for the far right. Fox news is in a turmoil over
how it has treated women. Trumps favorite tv news channel. They
apparently fired a far right commentator that Trump said he liked.

Seems working women are speaking out against rich men who think they
are gods gift to women. I say stand up women, these men need to find
out they can't get away with treating women like second class citiizens.
Including Trump.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 21, 2017, 12:10:30 pm
Trump day 91
Our man Trump is pushing to change the ACA again. It's not
likely to go anywhere. Trump just can't stand to loose, and
he wants to finish the work on the ACA to move on to Tax cuts
for his rich friends, and  perhaps for his self and his family.

Trump was fussing at Iran, claiming they were living up to
the spirit of the agreement even though they have been following
the letter of the agreement to not work to make atomic weapons.
We have enough trouble with Korea without attacking Iran.

Trumps atterney general was complaining about the federal district
judge in Hawaii stopped the Travel ban. He said a small island
in the Pacific shouldn't be involved in stopping Trumps travel
ban. I guess he forgot Hawaii is a US state with all the rights
as much as his state of Alabama.

Trump made a big deal about not allowing "Pay for Play" in his
campaign. But it appears Trump has been doing just this since
he has been in office. Takeing money from foreign governments
and others when they want the ear of the president. It appears
much of this money was considered donations for Trumps inauguration.
He got a total of 107 million for an inauguration that likely
cost less than a third that much. Did Trump tell people to
donate to his inauguration to get money he can use for
personal use or debts? Seems congress should be looking into
this, but the GOP doesn't care if Trump is guilty of "Pay for
Play" Perhaps it's something they do as well. 

Trump accused Canada of hurting Wisconsin dairy farmers with
restrictions of sales. Trump is wanting to get rid of Trade
deals which will make this Kind of thing even worse. I don't
think Canada has done anything near as bad as Trump claims. I
wish Trump would quit jumping on our friends trying to make
his self look good.

GOP
The GOP comes back next week talking about the ACA, but they have
to pass a continuing spending bill or the government will be shutting
down the following week. The democrats are not likely going to help
the GOP if they try to pass a Trump plan along with it.

The GOP is dragging it's feet on investigating the Russian
connection for the  election and the Trump campaign.

There is word a supreme court judge might resign this summer. If
true it will mean another senate fight because the GOP will want
to put another conservative judge in. If it's a liberal judge  who
resigns the balance will shift to the conservatives, and it will likely
mean the end of some rights for voting, women, LGBT, and minorities.
Once installed a judge is there till he/she dies or resigns. The
only way to remove one is if they break the law, and that would
be tough to prove or get done. Look at Trump if you don't believe it.
He has already done things that would have gotten other presidents
impeached.

Hopefully they can hold out to after the 2018 election. By then
the senate could be in the hands of the democrats, and they
won't approve a conservative judge for the supreme court. Even
if Trump is still around to nominate one.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 22, 2017, 11:27:06 am
It's earth day, and the GOP tells us our environment is doing fine.
Including Trump. In the future people can look back and tag these
politicians as bad guys who didn't care if we have a place to live
not. We could be energy independant in less than 50 years using
renewable energy. But the oil and gas industry doesn't want it.
There is billions to be mad in renewable energy, but big business
can't see it, and doesn't want to retool for it.

Big oil is trying to discourage people using solar and wind by
promoting laws that will make it more costly, and we shouldn't
be suprised they are supporting the GOP. It's all about money
not the health of our planet.

Trump day 92
Our man Trump and the GOP have an idea to blaim the democrats
if they fail to pass a continuing spending bill to keep the
government running. Now isn't that interesting. The GOP basicly
owns the government, and they are going to pass the buck if they
fail?  Some of the Trump base might believe it, but I donbt if
many more do.

Trump and the GOP are making threats that if the democrats don't
help they will cut funding for health care, and insurance payments
that could hurt millions of americans. It's likely these are empty
threats as it would hurt them more than the democrats.

Trump is saying he isn't telling who is visiting to protect the
security of the USA. Trump complained about secracy during his
campaign, and now he is doing it. Likely to cover up profitable
meetings that have nothing to do with security except for his
self.

Apparently Trump met with two Columbians who don't want the USA to
support the peace talks in their country. They happen to be prior
leaders of that country. So they may have financial reasons to stop
the peace process. Columbia news reported the talks with Trump were
productive. Trump called the meeting just a friendly handshake.

The atterney general was calling cities who refused to help with
rounding up undocumented aliens soft on crime. He got a blistering
response from the New York PD. Seems Trumps men are sticking their
feet in their mouths trying to make Trump happy. I wonder how long
thes people will last or even continue to support Trump?

Trump pick for the Supreme court voted to let Arkansas kill a death
row inmate today. His vote was the deciding vote. So Trump and the
GOP should be very proud.. I can't say wither it was a good decision
or not, but it shows Judge Gorsuch is a conservative.

Trumps 100 day honeymood is about to be over. Probably with no real
wins in congress. Other than his dictatorial rule by executaive order
hhe has failed to do anything. No wall, no health care fix, no tax cut,
and no infrastructure plan. Jobs he has created? Very few compaared to
what he claimed he waould create. In fact thousands have lost jobs
since he has been in office. Trump is calling the 100 day honeymoon
rediculous, since he has nothing much to show for it.

GOP
Is the GOP too fragmented to pass any big ticket legislation? Even
the Wall is running into problems. People who live along the border
are filing suit to stop the walls construction on their land. If these
people don't want it, why is the GOP pushing for it? After all most
states along the boarder support GOP members of congress. I wonder
how long congress will follow Trump down the garden path.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 23, 2017, 12:06:45 pm
Trump day 93
Our man Trump is bragging about how much he
did in the first 100 days of his office. Well he should
just be honest, Most presidents don't get much done
in the first 100 days. It takes a while to learn
how to do the job. To learn what is right or wrong for
the president.

Here is a few things I don't like about Trump

He doesn't care about anyone but his self.
He spends most of his weekends at his home in Florida.
He lies most of the time.
He brags about everything he does.
He claims to knows everything.
He watches tv for information on other countries
He tweets too much.
He can't stand to loose.
He can't admit being wrong about anything.
He has his family working in the administration.
He thinks the government should pay for anything he wants.
He is using his office to make money for his self and family.

This is a short list of faults he has.  Trump has been a
salesman most of his adult life. Much of what he is doing
is due to habits most salesmen have, and Trump is a
master salesman.

To sell
You must be sure of your product.
Brag on the product
Never admit you don't know.
Tell people they need it.
Repeat the claims about how good something is.

There are more, but you can see how Trump is using
sales tactics as president. Doing this to get elected isn't
so bad, but as president he needs to forget it.

The people in congress and world leaders are smart enough to
know sales tactics, and are not likely to be snowed by them. 
If the GOP didn't need his signature on laws they want he would 
have been impeached by now., and of course they want the
support of those who voted for Trump. Otherwise the VP would
sign off on their plans.

Of course the worst thing that can happen to a salesmen is
for his product to fail. So unless Trump can keep his promises
he will be in big trouble. I just hope he doesn't do something
that will harm the country trying to win.

Trump seems to not like Muslims. He seems to think they all are
terrorists. Some Muslims here in the USA feel the Trump administration
is against them, and might even put them in containment camps.
Trump ideas will likely cause more problems with terrorisim. We
need to treat Muslims fairly, not like they are terrorists waiting to
happen. We have had more mass shootings by native born americans
 than anyone else. Placing blaime on any one religion is wrong.


GOP
They have to work to keep the government open this week and
I doubt if Trump wants a government shut down at the end of
his 100 days. If it happens he will belaim the democrats.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 24, 2017, 12:47:22 pm
Trump day 94
Not much new going on. I hear Trump is still trying to pressure North Korea
to stop making nukes and missiles. Trump is expeccting China to  solve
the problem, but it's doubtful they will do all that much.

Trump wants something to brag about even if it hurts a lot of people. I
hope there are enough thinking people in the GOP to stop him.

Trump is planning a big ralley in Pennsylvania this comming saturday.
I am sure if the government has been shut down he will be blaiming the
demcrats, but if it's not he will take the credit. He should be doing his
job instead of making speeches to his supporters at rally's.

We did see thosands of people out for Earth Day. The GOP is still trying
to discredit Global warming, and other dangers to our planet. Trump
appointed a man to run the EPA who cares little or noting for the
environment. So all we can do is hope there isn't too much damage
before we can get back to responsible government.

I guess some people feel the save the planet people are all liberals. I
am sure there are some that are overly zealous, but if we leave it to
the conservatives who only think about the now to save a dollar and
not the future it will be our children who will pay.

The GOP claims they will make jobs.
The Democrats claim they want good jobs.
I think good jobs are best.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on April 24, 2017, 05:10:23 pm
Should be pretty interesting to see what happens at the end of this week. Congress needs to pass a budget bill by the end of the week to prevent a government shutdown. I doubt they'll make it in time. The main sticking point is that the Toddler-in Chief (Trump) and the Republicans want money to build the border wall. One way or another, they say they're going to get it. And they say they'll blame the Democrats if they don't get it. Well, there's a few Republicans too who are opposed to the wall and giving money. So if the Toddler-in-Chief doesn't get what he wants, you can be sure he'll throw a hissy fit and major temper tantrum.  :D
http://www.tmj4.com/news/national/white-house-capitol-hill-scramble-for-deal-to-avert-shutdown

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 25, 2017, 01:10:41 pm
Kobuk I would be surprised if the GOP shuts the government down. Trump
or the GOP wouldn't have much to brag about.

Trump day 95
Our man Trump has many many conflicts of interest as president. Any man or
woman who is a billionaire is likely to have connections to the crimmial
element. Even if they don't want the connection, big money draws criminals
like flies to road kill.

Trump owes a lot of money to foriegn governments like China, and who knows
how much to Russia and others. Trump claims he made a Blind Trust, but he
knows what businesses he owns. He should be required to sell all of his
businesses or resign. I know he doesn't want to, but he wanted to be
President. So he should be willing to accept what it requires of him.

Being president is being a public servant, not a way to make millions using
the office. He should be required to release all of his finances to show
he has no conflict that could cause him to save his money instead of our
country.

Trumps wall will not be paid for by Mexico. Even tariffs will cost
the american people and not Mexico. Trump is trying to get congress
to appropriate moneys for the wall. Tax payer money. A wall won't
stop drug traffic, most of it flows across the boarder in cars and
trucks. Any money spent on a wall would be better spent fixing
infrastructure like roads and bridges.

Trump wants to cut taxes by half to big business. Trump claims to have
drained the swamp. That drain led right back to the White house. He
is in bed with all the rich bad guys he was saying Clinton was working
for.

GOP
The investigation of the Russian hacking of our election, and possible
connection to the Trump campain is going very slow, Even the senate who
started out well has slowed. The GOP leadership appears to be telling the
chairman of each committee to go slow so Trumps supporters won't turn
against them as they might if things go bad for Trump. If he is found guilty
of working with the Russians they would have little choice but to impeach
him. Or be seen to be guilty as well.

The GOP already may have dirty hands trying to protect Trump. They may
find themselves answering hard questions before it's all over. Protecting
someone who breakes the law is just as bad as the law breaker.

The GOP best distance them selves from lying Trump if they
want to stay in power.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 26, 2017, 11:36:28 am
Trump day 96
Our man Trump has refused to provide information about Flynn that
was requested by the Ethics committee. Perhaps the GOP chairman will
push the issue, but I wonder if he will.

Trump claimed to make 30 executive orders in his first 100 days. I
hardly think that is something to brag about. Trump bad mouthed Obama
for making excutive orders saying is was a sign of poor leadership. I guess
that makes Trump a poor leader too. Executive orders can be over ridden
by congress at anytime. Or by the courts, so they have little authority
over the other two branches of government.

Trump is still saying he will push for his wall. The GOP isn't supporting
the idea all that much. So will Trump refuse to sign the bill to  keep
the government running if the money for the wall isn't there?
I think he will continue to put it off as he has many things he can't
get congress to do. He brags about Judge Gorsuch, but the senate leader
changed the rules to get the judge approved. Not for Trump, but for
the GOP. They wanted a conservative judge that favored big business.

Trump said in his campaign that Obama made executive orders like a
emporor, and played golf hundreds of times. Hypocrit Trump is doing 
the very same thing he accused Obama of.

Trump said he was going to work to help women, but he has done little
for women. Except for family he hasn't changed. His Cabinet only has
one woman, and one in the Unitied Nations. Others he doesn't like he
offers them ambassadorships in distant lands. His opposition to  Planhed
Parenthood is more proof he doesn't care about women unless they are
pretty enough to grab.

I heard Trump is trying to get all 100 members of the senate to come to
a meeting on the white house grounds. I guess to hear Trump make a
speech, or perhaps to make threats saying he won't sign a bill to fund the government unless he gets his way. The GOP needs to tell Trump if he
wants to speak to the senate he can come to the senate chamber. Not to
act like he is  a dictator or some kind of King, and do his job.

A meeting like this would be a security nightmare, but Trump doesn't
seem to care. I think it's time the GOP leadership tells him to grow up.
If he tweets and pouts so be it.

GOP
They have a lot to do this week. So they best do more than visit
with each other to get their jobs done. Or the government will be
on vacation while cthe GOP and Trump play games.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on April 26, 2017, 04:37:40 pm
Trump's preliminary tax cut plan has been released. It seems to raise more questions than it provides answers.  :o Nothing new there I guess.  :P  Looks to be another "Take from the poor, Give to the rich" plan.  >:( Be interesting to see how many Trumplicans actually support this tax proposal.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/26/news/economy/trump-tax-plan/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/26/politics/congress-tax-reform-analysis/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/25/opinions/trumps-billionaire-friendly-tax-plan-mccaffery/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 27, 2017, 12:53:08 pm
Yes Trump wanted something to brag about at his big Ralley this
weekend. Gotta get those cheers to feed that big ego of his.

Trump day 97
Our man Trump laid out a one page tax plan. It's just an outline but
enough to show it's a big tax cut for Trump and his billionaire friends.
Also allows the very rich to give much of their wealth to decendants. A
term for that is "Old Money" It is bad for regular people in that it
keeps a lot of money in the hands of a few people instead of spreading
it out into the economy.

Trump like the GOP are claiming big business will create more jobs if they
have more money. Well "Trickle down economics doesn't work." It just makes
rich people richer and the middle class poorer.

Trump had his senate meeting today. It was obviously a photo op trying to
show he is doing more than he really is. Most senators were discusted by
being dragged to a meeting where they learned little or nothing.

Trump, and the GOP is pushing a new health plan that would allow states
to set up plans that would cost people with health problems a lot more
money. Also even to let emergency rooms turn people away that can't pay.
This plan is even more draconian than their previous plan. Appearently
trying to get support from the Tea Party extremists.

If Trump has his way the people who voted for him will likely end up
worse off than they were in 2016. Less health care, and paying more for
it. working harder to make the rich richer. It's likely we will have more
soldiers fighting in the middle east. Perhaps even in Korea at the rate
things are going.

Trump has failed to hire enough people to run the state department. The
one agency that can prevent wars. To work with other countries and their
people. If a disease pops up somewhere that could spread around the
world. Like the Obola break out in africa a few years back. The state
department works to send aid and health care trying to stop such events.

Nafta will stay. Trump agreed to keep the trade plan with Mexico and
Canada. Another flip by Trump who campaigned against it.

GOP
Will the GOP do the job the constitution requires? Or will they continue
to make excuses to keep from finding Trump or his people guilty of
anything. If that is the case only the voters can correct it.

If the GOP vote to take health coverage away from millions of people
they will likely be needing new jobs in 2019.

If the GOP tries to pass Trumps tax cut that is designed to make the
rich even richer including Trump. The Democrats can put a stop to it
since it would need 60 votes to pass. Trump calls it tax reform, but
it's nothing but a tax cut when the deficit is growing bigger every day.
The GOP complains when the democrats spend money for social programs,
but they turn around and want to give money to the rich who have more
than 99% of working people have or ever hope to.


Real estate prices are shooting up. I hope the banks don't repeat the same
thing they did prior to 2008 recession by making too many high risk loans
to people speculating on real eastate. At the time house values were
climbing fast. A person could buy a house and sell it for a big profit in a couple years.

Trouble is people were betting on price increases to pay the loans,so when
the real eastate bubble burst thousands of loans went unpaid. Others ended
up with homes that dropped in value so much they couldn't refinace for
gor enough money to keep the home. So the tax payer had to keep the banks
from going under. With less regulations on banks they might do it again.

Trump among other real estate mogals made a killing picking up repossesed
homes for half their value.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 28, 2017, 11:42:45 am
Trump day 98
President Trump said he hopes to have a deplomatical solution
with NK, but it's possible there could be a major conflict with
them. Not a quote, but close. Could this be a vailed threat to
NK. Presidents usually don't say things this directly, but Trump
isn't like a normal president. We can only hope nothing comes of
it. Trump shouldn't be making statements that could be seen as
a threat of war by that paranoid leader of North Korea.

Our man Trump seems to be worried about Flynn. They don't want
to talk about him. Or provide any information on him. What is it
about Flynn is Trump worried about? Trump even changes the subject
or leaves the room if asked about Flynn.

The Trump administration doesn't want to talk to conngress about
Flynn. Will the GOP press for the information or just make more
excuses for Trump?

GOP
No vote on the ACA replacement for now. I guess they are working
hard to keep the government open.

The chairman of the oversight committee is leaving and may resign,
claming to have a foot injury. Seems odd when it comes to Flynn
Trump and the GOP want to change the subject. What is it they fear? 
Might they fear it could be so serious that it would force them to
impeach Trump?. I guess  that would worry the GOP, and for
sure Trump.

I am sure Trumps supporters would be very upset if congress gave him
the boot for any reason. I think the GOP would dump Trump if they
weren't afraid of a negative response by Trumps base. They still poll
over 90% in favor of him.

The GOP controlled congress has till midnight on the 28th to pass a
spending bill. If they try to tack on something for Trump it's likely
the democrats won't go for it. Trump is already blaiming the democrats
for all his problems. Odd since the GOP pretty much owns the
government.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 29, 2017, 11:49:58 am
Trump Day 99
Our man Trump laments his first 100 days. He said I didn't think
it would be so hard. Well if he had taken the time to study
the duties of the President. He should have studied the
constitution. He should have studied government, and how
laws are made.

Trump has spent his whole life selling real estate, and managing
business, and going bankrupt a few times. Taking advantage of the
public with mind games. This doesn't work with smart people.
Congress may be the slowest working body in existance, but they
are smart enough to see Trump for what he is.

Now with over a third of the congressional year behind him, Trump
is going to have even a harder time getting his ideas passed into
law. Members of congress get more nervous as the next election
cycle draws closer. The public may have a short memory, but each day
brings us closer to 2018.

Trump continues to shoot his self in the foot by hiring people with
no experience working in government. Instead of putting good people
in government jobs he puts friends in. That is one reason he had Flynn
and others who helped run his campaign. Trump should have looked to
other presidents to guide his desicions. Not people like Bannonn or
other people who come from the far right.

I think Trump is worried about Flynn because he let flynn sit in on
security meetings while Flynn was a foreign agent, and it's likely
Trump knew Flynn was, and should have fired him 3 weeks sooner. Trump
claims he chose Flynn because he worked for Obama. Well Obama fired
Flynn. So Trump should have checked to see why, and had the FBI
see if he was still good to be in security meetings.

Trump made a campaign speech to the NRA. He was in his old form
getting lots of cheers telling them what they wanted to hear.

Trump is playing with south Korean trade agreements, and telling
them they need to pay for our protection. This seems like a bad
time to get the people of South Korea upset over Trade and protection
deals.

GOP
The GOP passed a bill to keep the government open for a whole
week. I guess they feel they can twist more GOP arms to get Trumps
plans passed pver the next week. Somehow I don't think GOP house
members are going to stick their necks out voting for a bill that
the senate isn't likely to pass. The last thing they want is having
to run for relection with a bad vote on their record. The speaker
should know this, but continues to push for a bad replacement for
the ACA.

By the way the GOP will make sure they can get good health care
even if we can't. Almost all of them could pay for health care out of
their pocket. Billionaires could build a hospital dedicated for their
care.  So why would they care if we have any.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 30, 2017, 06:31:40 pm
Trump Day 100
Our man Trump seems to still be on the campaign trail. At least
it sounded l ike it at his ralley.

It was sad to hear he quote a poem calling immigrants scaley snakes.
No president should run down anyone like that. But Trump isn't too
proud to step on anyone he doesn't like or agree with. He was still
talking about Clinton, and running her down. Even though he has
has done some of the things he claimed she did and should be put
in jail for. He can't get away from his oversized ego even after
100 days.

Trump hasn't tried to bring the country together once in
the first 100 days. He hasn't tried to make any comprimises. It's
his way or no way. He is smarter than everyone else to hear him
talk. It is a shame the GOP run congress is so cowed they won't do
their duty to investigate Trump and his people. Instead they make
excuses for him.

Now we start the rest of Trumps term in office. It's likely he won't
be held accountable as long as the GOP runs Congress. Perhaps that
will change in 2018, but  only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on April 30, 2017, 11:29:44 pm
Looks like a government shutdown has been avoided........for now. Gov't will keep running till September.
Why is it we can only keep the gov't running for just a few short months, but never longer for like a year or more? Pretty disgraceful and sad if you ask me.  >:(
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/30/politics/government-shutdown-congress-negotiations/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 01, 2017, 11:20:34 am
Looks like a government shutdown has been avoided........for now. Gov't will keep running till September.
Why is it we can only keep the gov't running for just a few short months, but never longer for like a year or more? Pretty disgraceful and sad if you ask me.  >:(
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/30/politics/government-shutdown-congress-negotiations/index.html

Politics of course.  The party in power tries to hold the government
hostage trying to get their way.  I think both parties have been guilty
of it. Seems I remember Bush 1 was forced to sign off on a tax increase
when the Democrats threatened to shut the government down. Bush 1 ran
for president with the promise of "No New Taxes"
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 01, 2017, 12:16:55 pm
Trump Day 101
Our man Trump was wanting S Korea to pay for the new missile defense
system. The Koreans are not too happy about having  the missile defense
as it is. They would rather we wait till their new president has been installed
to decide. Of course the NK leader has been making threats over the defense
system too. But the NK fusses if S Korea does anything military. Nothing
new about that. NK has been fussing since the Korean war.

Trump apparently feels authoritarian leaders are better because they
show strenght. I guess killing people is a sign of strength for Trump.

GOP
Congress will pass a spending bill, but what are they going to fund? They
can leav anything out if they want to.

The house is working on a health care bill to replace the ACA. The big thing
is the state wavier allowing states to opt out to cover people with pre existing conditions by setting up a high risk plan. These high risk plans often have
limit on ccoverage as well as costing much more than other plans. The
ACA kept prices the same for all not higher for people with problems. This
is just a way to to get the conservatives on board, and hoping to keep
the moderates. Even if this is passed by the house it's not likely to make it
through the senate.

As long as the rich gobs run the country we are not likely to have anything
close to a right of good health care for the people like other democracies.
They seem to think anyone who can't pay for insurance is a lazy bum not
deserving of help. After all they think anyone can get rich if they work at it.
They say the poor and sick are the business of Charities not government.

When I was a kid the poor, and sick often died in poor houses that were
filfy with little or no health care. When we let people get sick and die in
large numbers. We set society up for epidemics of diseases that can cost
much more than providing assistance and health care to begin with.

When people grow up in societies that show little care for others they can
often end up feeling it's a dog eat dog world. This can lead to crime and
other antisocial problems.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 01, 2017, 01:42:07 pm
Quote
GOP
Congress will pass a spending bill, but what are they going to fund? They
can leav anything out if they want to.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politics/government-spending-bill-details/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 02, 2017, 12:40:54 pm
Quote
GOP
Congress will pass a spending bill, but what are they going to fund? They
can leav anything out if they want to.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/01/politics/government-spending-bill-details/index.html


I am rather skeptical when it comes to the GOP and Trump. Hope Trump
signs it as agreed to.


Trump Day 102
Our man Trump calles the NK leader a smart cookie. Even an honor
to visit N Korea if possible. All that would do is make the NK
leader look important or at least feel more important to have a
visit from the most powerful leader in the world.

Trump feels he could have prevented the civil war. One wonders
what kind of comprimise he would have offered the south? It was
about slavery, and states rights to decide to have slaves. So
you think Trump would have allowed slavery to prevent a war? It's
hard to say. It's just speculation as the war is history.

Trumps favorite president is Andrew Jackson. A tough president who
had slaves, and had the government move american indians to the
Oklahoma terriorty.

Trump fired the surgen general. Don't know if he will hire another.

Trump signed a excutive order to allow schools to have less nutrisous
foods to the kids. Probably will be liked by the kids.

Trump administration removed enviromental data from the EPA website.

Trump signed a excutive order to open up protected areas of the arctic
and along both coasts of the USA.. That included Califoria. Trump is
likely to get lots of protests over this order. If big business wants
it. Trump gives it to them.

All this may get a few cheers from his supporters, but not from the
majority of the american people.

Trump doesn't seem to understand regulations are for public saftey, not
just to hurt the bottome line of big business. He should set up a
commission to look at all regulations, then remove any that are reduntant
or do little but increase costs.

GOP
The GOP is warking hard to pass the replacelment health care plan. Likely
because the plan they are trying to pass is more of a tax cut for the rich
than a health plan for the people. That would give them a big step toward
the Tax cut plan.

It was good Trumps wall hasn't been funded under the spending bill.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 03, 2017, 11:13:42 am
Trump Day 103
Our man Trump is spinning the spending bill trying to
make it look like he got what he wanted. Even though
it was a win for the democrats. I still wonder if
Trump will sign it. He is saying it might be good for
the country if the government was shut down for a while
this September. He said he wants more senators or change
the senate rules so he can get his way.

Trump didn't mention that all the states along the Mexican
boarder don't want his wall. Trump didn't mention the
house has a GOP majority. If Trump would work with the
democrats. A bit of comprimise with the democrats could
accomplish quite alot. If Trump would work for the good
of the country instead of his self and rich friends he
would do better as well.

Trump continues claiming any news that puts him in a
bad light "FAKE" But if it is good it's the real deal.

Trump wants to run the country as if he was a dictator. To
sign orders that have the power of law that the courts
and congress can't stop. Possibly to punish people for not
agreeing with him.

Trump appears to have little knowledge of foreign affairs.
He seems to feel he can make deals with foreign governments
as he did as a CEO. Trump needs to spend all his free time
learning about diplomacy. Otherwise other leaders will walk
all over Trump. They will get the good deals while we get
the left overs.

GOP
They are still trying to pass a draconian health plan
to replace the ACA. If they do it will likely cost them
dearly in 2018.

The GOP seems to be wanting to forget the Russian attack
on our election last November. Not even push for sanctions
against Russia. The Flynn story may expose more people in
government. Several GOP members of congress were involved
with the Trump campaign. By trying to protect their fellows
the GOP may wish to drop the whole thing. The democrats
will not likely go along with it.

This is speculation on my part, but the GOP seem to be working
hard to keep any investigation on Flynn or the Trump campaign
quiet. There should be a independant bipartsan commission to
do a real investigation that will settle it once and for all.

Working to protect lawless people is bad for the country. If our
leaders don't follow the law how can we expect the public to do so.
This can lead to anarchy. snd cause the country to end up moving
to an authoritarian form of government like Russia. There if you
don't like the leadership they kill you.

All together now...   HAIL TRUMP!!!  j/k  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 04, 2017, 11:39:37 am
Trump Day 104
Our man Trump is still pushing to change the ACA. It
has nothing to do with making it better. It's nothing
but a tax cut for him and his rich friends. The ACA as
is requires people making over $300.000.00 a year are
taxed to help pay the costs of the ACA. The change will
relieve them of this tax.

Trump still hasn't filled agency jobs for t hie government
since he took office. He should have had most of them
before he took office.

Bannon and the VP are still pushing for far right people
to be put in government. Nominating  those who have wierd
ideas, or have opposing views of ideas that have been proven
by science. Apparently they are looking for people who don't
believe anything but conspiracy theories instead of facts.

GOP
The ACA change will make it impossible for people with health
problems to afford insuracne.People with cancer could see
premiums of over $100,000.00 a year. This plan allows insurance
companies to charge any price they want to people with health
issues. It also returns limits to coverage for people. If a state
wants they can limit coverage for most anything they want. This
encludes people who get health insurance through their employer.

The GOP has been promising to kill the ACA for 7 years, and now
even with their lies about it. People want to keep it. This puts
the GOP between a rock and a hard spot. If they vote for it they
will be marked as cruel uncaring bad people. If they don't they
will have to explain why they didn't after 7 years of saying they
would. They should put politics a side and do what it takes to
prevent death and suffering for tens of millions.

There will be substities to help pay the premiums, but this bill
creates a 200 billion dollar shortfall over 10 years. The 8 billion
is not enough to help those who can't afford insurance.It just more
GOP talk designed to misslead the public.I wish these greedy people
had to personally see the results of the harm their actions cause.
Instead they hide from the public or offer snow jobs claiming it's
to help make more jobs.

They claim the states can do a better job of spending money to
help the poor, and others with health care. History has shown
many states do a poor job, and try to avoid spending money to
help the needy. Unless it's for their rich friends.

The FBI director tried to use the excuse he was protecting
the reputation of the FBI when he told the GOP they were
investigating more of Clintons emails. Even though he kept
from the public that he had Trump under investigation, claiming
it was improper to do so. He was crying alligator tears saying
he felt so bad that it may have affected the election. He and
his GOP friends were afraid they would loose the white house
and the senate if nothing was done. It was his job to follow
the rules, not breaking them to protect one political party or
the other.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 04, 2017, 02:58:46 pm
Whether anybody wants and likes Obamacare or not, the House just voted shortly ago and passed to repeal Obamacare. The vote was 216 to 211. Now it goes to the Senate where it will be debated and voted on.
I'll have more links to this developing story later, but here's a few samples for now:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/04/news/economy/obamacare-republican-health-care/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/republicans-health-care-donald-trump/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 04, 2017, 05:29:10 pm
For those who didn't want Obamacare to be repealed for whatever reason and were angry with the Trumplicans for voting Yes today to repeal Obamacare, here's a list of all who voted so you know which Trumplicans (or Dems) you want to vote out of office next year during the midterm elections.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/house-health-care-vote/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Storm Fox on May 05, 2017, 12:56:10 am
For those who didn't want Obamacare to be repealed for whatever reason and were angry with the Trumplicans for voting Yes today to repeal Obamacare, here's a list of all who voted so you know which Trumplicans (or Dems) you want to vote out of office next year during the midterm elections.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/house-health-care-vote/index.html

The pendulum swings both ways.
Those who lost their insurance because of Obamacare, those that go to the website to see no plans listed for them or be told by one of the marketplace operators "There are no applicable plans available for you.", those offered a %60 private hmo plan for the low low price of $400 per adult per month, or those who can't buy any insurance because no insurer covers their county... All of those people will also know who to vote, or not vote for.
But of course that is only if people make their choices based on the outcome of one vote over one issue and completely ignore everything else a particular politician may or may not support. ;)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 05, 2017, 01:08:03 pm
Trump Day 105
Our man Trump bragged today that the house voted to change
the ACA. A change if it becomes law would deny coverage for
millions of people. The people have no shame. It's nothing
more than a tax cut for the top 2% of the rich. It cuts over
900 Billion from medicade to suppliment premium and drug costs
for people who can't afford insurance other wise. People may still
be elegible to purchase insurance, but no protection to keep it
affordable.

Costs to people with health issues will go into the tens of
thousands of dollars a year. More money than many people have
for an income. Older people 50 to 64 could end up paying 5 times
more. Small rual hospitals are in danger of closing due to less
people having insurance.

All you young healthy people out there can smile. If this bill
becomes law you will have the choice to not carry insurance.
Just think if you get sick and go into a hospital you will
likely come out owing more than a $100,000.00.. Won't that
be fun? That's the gift our man Trump is offering you.

You all may not care if some poor guy dies due to lack of care,
but what you pay for your own health care  goes up each time
a hospital or emergency room doesn't get paid. They just raise
prices to those who can pay.

One day in the hospital with texts can cost over $12,000.00.

GOP
The house GOP members today just jumped off a cliff with Trump 
thinking there is a net of supporters below to catch them. I have
a hunch that  net will be very flimsy, and they will fall out of office
in 2018.

It seems many of the GOP feel if someone can't pay they should
die. Or I don't want to pay for some lazy bums doctor bill. Or
some kid a sluty woman had out of wedlock. It's this kind of
thinking that creates social problems across the country.

These people stood cheering for a law that could kill  thosands.
I did not vote for Trump or any GOP man or woman last november.
I used to be a solid supporter of the GOP, but no more.
The GOP I knew as a young man is gone.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 06, 2017, 11:59:51 am
Trump day 106
Our man Trump visits with Fox news about every day. This isn't
big news as Trump hangs on their every word. I think Trump should
use his time for the job of president, and not to visit with
with friends. Who can say what they might be talking about. People
had conspiracy theories with the Clintons. Seems there are good
reason for many about Trump.

Trump fired the white house Usher. A african american woman who was
hired by Obama. Now Trump can decide who works at the white house,
but one wonders if perhaps this person wasn't pretty enough. In
the past Trump has been known to fire women over their looks, and
possibly due to race. The report was she left quietly. It's doubtful
we will never know the truth unless she talks about it.

Now that the house has the ACA replacement out of the way. They
will likely jump to the tax reform bill. This is more of a tax
cut bill for the top 2% of rich people. The cut to medicade was
the first step. It gives the GOP and Trump more room to cut taxes
by 15% for corporate america and those smart billionaire friends of
the GOP and Trump. I have a hunch GOP members will get money
for that generosity if it passes.

The GOP claims big business needs these cuts to create more jobs. I
wonder  how many of these big corporations even pay 15% in taxes
now. Besides they will likely use any money they save in taxes to
update their manufacturing process so it's more automated. I don't
see how that creates more jobs. It will likely end up cutting jobs.

Large sums of money has been donated to help  people run against
the GOP members that voted to  kill the ACA. That was just since
the GOP vote. 30 hours, and it continues. The next 11 days of
recess will see the GOP members facing large crowds of angry
voters. I have a hunch most will hide from their voters.

I heard one democrat say he was getting calls from people
asking how to get in touch with their GOP representative. He
told them to keep trying as he couldn't help. But he did offer to
speak at their town hall if their GOP representative didn't want
to. Many were happy to have him speak and answer questions
their own representative isn't willing to do. I hope more democrats
offer to do this in other GOP districts where the Representative hides
from the people.

I heard two GOP congressmen being interviewed for their support for
Trump care. It seemed I could hear fear in their voices as they tried to
spin how good the plan was. Almost like they were trying  to convince
them  selves along with the interviewer.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 07, 2017, 11:56:22 am
Trump Day 107
Our man Trump went to New York for the first time since he
took office. More campaign stops. I guess Trump is worried
he will loose the 2020 election already. I think Trump is the
first president to spend more time talking about his self
than doing his job. Any time he stays some place other than
the white house it's a motel or club he owns. To make money
for his self. This president seems to care more about money than
the country unless that care benifits him and his businesses.

He didn't run for president for the people. He ran to make money.
There isn't anything wrong with makeing money, but the job of
president is 24/7  about the country, not your self.

Trumps push to change the ACA is more about cutting taxes than
heath care. He needed to remove the ACA tax on the rich first. Now
he will try to get a big tax cut for him and his billionaire friends.

GOP
Trump and the GOP leadership have likely tossed their members under
the bus with this health care vote. Time will tell, but it's real possibility
Trump will loose both houses of congress in 2018. So you can be
sure they will work hard to change government while they can.

I heard one GOP rep say. No one ever died due to not having health
care. Hard to believe isn't it? It's people with this kind of ignorance
who are running the country. If not do they really think the public
is this stupid?  Many people have died due to a lack of health
care. Granted many die due to illness, but if you can't get the care
you need or pay for drugs. You will likely die sooner than later.

I heard something said by a GOP senator. We can set up homes
for those who can't afford care. Sounds like the old folks homes f
from a century ago. Places where the poor waited to die in terrible
conditions. Many rest homes have give poor care. Homes for the
tpoor would likely be even  worse with the GOP wanting to keep
the costs low.

It seems the GOP wants to return to the days where people lived or
died based on their income, be it shealter, medicine, food or health
care. Other countries feel people have a right to what they need to
live. Why shouldn't we, the richest country in the world?

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 08, 2017, 12:37:11 pm
Trump Day 108
Our man Trump had his people on all the news and talk shows telling
everyone how good his new health plan is. It's always easy to tell.
They always have a speech ready. Pat answers for questions. Hard
questions are avoided.

The plan allows States to decide how to use Medicade. Many states
have GOP run governments.  So it's likely they will cut back all they
can. Saying the local charities should handle the poor. Yep just like
the GOP in the national government. Bottom up politics.

Trump is planning to head to the Middle east claiming he will make
deals to stop all the problems there. Well if he succeeds he will be
the first president since WWII to do so. I think he will be sorely
disappointed with the outcome, though  he will never admit failing.

GOP
I wonder how long the Senate takes to pass their version of Trumps
health plan? I am sure the GOP leader will try to  ram something
through. Trump and the GOP want to move on to Tax Cuts for their
rich friends and supporters. The sooner the ACA's tax on the rich is
gone the better. Nothing like making the little guy pay high health
costs so the top 2% of the rich can pay less tax.  They keep saying
the working poor and older people will be protected. I wonder how
medicaid will work better with almost 900 billion less to work with.
It's stretched pretty thin as is.

They keep saying Tax cuts will make jobs. It hasn't worked in the
past. The rich people invest their money in real estate, play the stock
market,  or other high end items. It's the little guy that makes the
economy run.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 09, 2017, 12:56:53 pm
Trump Day 109
Testimony by the acting justist department atterney general
appears to show the Trump administration ignored warnings
that Flynn was a possible risk for the countries security.

Why did Trump keep Flynn for another 18 days when he should
have removed Flynn from acess to security matters till they
could investigate him and those he assosiated with.

Was it just Trump not wanting to believe Flynn was a risk?
Or did Trump know and kept him anyway, putting the country
as risk. Trump ignored Obamas warning to not hire Flynn. Trump
still claims he didn't have Flynn checked out because he worked
in defense security for Obama.

Trump stated he was renewing the war in Afghanistan today. Was
this to push the Flynn investigation out of the headlines?
I wouldn't put anything past Trump. Seems Trump hasn't any
plans to get us out of war in the middle east.

Visas to the US can be basically bought for 1/2 million dollar
investments here. It appears the Trump family is using this to
raise money for new building projects. This is legal, but
there is a report they implied president Trump would expidite
them getting green cards. This would be a conflict of interest
for Trump. They claimed it wasn't intentional to cause people
to think they would get special treatment, and apologized.
Was this the first time? Who can say. Trump got an extension
for this pay for these Visas in the continuing spending bill he signed.
So perhaps Trump wanted to keep this golden goose on the nest.

Trump made a big deal during the campaign that Clinton
was guilty of "Pay for Play". It appears Trump and company
has been making money this way ever since he has been in
office. The GOP just grins and looks the other way.

GOP
The GOP is lying about their new health plan. Not just
spinning or twisting the truth, but out right lies. Seems
they think it's ok to lie when it comes to health coverage.
Just like they have for the past 7 years about the ACA.

These anti tax people will do anything to save their rich
supporters money. The GOP and Trump don't care if it costs
the working class person everything they own for health
care.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 09, 2017, 08:41:24 pm
Trump just fired FBI director James Comey.  :o This'll put a serious crimp in the Trump/Russia investigations.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/james-comey-fbi-trump-white-out/index.html

EDIT:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/grand-jury-fbi-russia/index.html?sr=fbCNN051017grand-jury-fbi-russia/index.html0111AMStoryLink&linkId=37408523
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 10, 2017, 11:00:49 am
Trump Day 110
Our man Trump has shot his self in the foot once more. Firing the
FBI director for his actions with Clinton? This makes no sense at
all. Trump was bragging on The FBI director last October. If he
really felt the director needed to be removed why wait over a 100
days to do it?

Trump claims to be a professional, but he fired the FBI
director without even giving him a chance to resign. The director
found out while making a speech to new people in the FBI. I can
imagine it would have been an embarrassment to him. Could it
be Trump wanted to fire the director while he was out of town?
Perhaps to prevent the director from protecting files prior to
leaving. The reason I think this is when he asked the New York
federal attorney general to resign he refused giving his self time
to protect files from possible loss before Trump fired him. If
Trump has something serious to hide who knows what he might
do, or have others to do.

This all smacks of a cover up by the Trump administration. Every
time someone in government appears to be putting Trump at
risk it's time to fire them. Starting with the Acting atterney
general. A new york federal atterney general looking into
money laundering and the Russians, Now the FBI director who
said the FBI had the Trump administration under investigation.

Trump has been complaining the investigation of the Russian
connection with him is all fake news by the media. He wants it
to go away but he continues to do things to add suspicion. If
Trump wants this to go away. He should ask congress to set up
a special investigating committee, as it he just makes his self
look guilty of a cover up.

Now will the GOP work with the Democrats to set up a special
prosecuter, and special non partisan committee to finish the
job of investigating the Russian connection and hacking to
benifit Trump.

Or will they again make excuses to protect the white house
from a proper investigation. As long as this cloud hangs
over Trump it will grow and be more likely cost them
control of congress in 2018.

Trump and the GOP may say the public doesn't care if the
Russians are involved, but that  is their fantasy and not real
life.

Trump may think he is safe with the GOP and his friends
put in control of investigations. But he best hope the
GOP keeps control, because 2 years from now he could
be impeached and perhaps going to prison along with
many of his friends. This business makes the Nixon water
gate thing look small. Then it was just bad judgment over
a break in to a democrat office. This time it's about the
security of the nation. The very thing he was saying
H. Clinton should be locked up for.

Trump could just be paranoid with no improper connection
to the Russians, but cover ups get people in trouble more
often as cover ups prove intent to deceive.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 11, 2017, 12:57:50 pm
Trump Day 111
Our man Trump has made a few excuses for his firing the
FBI director. Just last week his press secretary was saying
the director was doing a good jop. Now the white house is
saying not to believe what the press secretary said.

The whole thing smells like a cover up, but we have to
depend on the GOP to investigate.. Talk about a conflict
of interest. The GOP should want to set up a special
non partisan committee. But the GOP leadership is standing
against the idea. They say they believe the Director was
properly fired. Perhaps he was, but I didn't hear any
complaints from them when the FBI director broke the rules
to let the public know of a new investigation on Clinton days
before the election.

Here is a thought. Could the GOP want the help of the
Russians during the next election? They know the country
is shifting to the left. So they may be looking for any
help to slow or stop this shift. It's doubtful we will
ever know. But I think the leadership is too smart to
be believing everything Trump feeds them. Even
though they act like they do.

I think the GOP and Trump will stall any investigation
looking into the Russian connection, and the hacking of
computer records of the democrats. It's possible the GOP
wouldn't mind if the Russians did the dirty work of
spying on the democrats again while they benefit and
wash their hands of it.

There is evidence of the Trump campaign meeting with the
Russian government. The FBI director has been fired, its
likely because Trump may have been worried about what the
investigation might find. Trump likely used the Clinton
email business as a diversion for the real truth, and
the GOP say they have no reason to not believe it.

Will the GOP want a new director that is friendly
to Trump? Or will they do what's right and only
support a director that is willing to follow
the evidence where ever it goes?
Only time will tell.

I heard last night that Trump often screams and shouts
at his tv when he see's something he doesn't like. There is
a report the ex FBI director commented that he felt Trump
was crazy. We may find out more now that the ex-director
isn't tied to his job now. Also there is a report the FBI
director was wanting more resources to ramp up the Russian
investigation just a few days ago. Trump may feel this action
will stop the probe, but the director sits at the top. There are
many under him doing the actual investigation.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 12, 2017, 12:54:49 pm
Trump Day 112
Our man Trump has admitted firing the FBI director to put a
quicker end to the Russian connection investigation. This could
cost Trump the presidency. Obstructing an lawful investigaions
is an impeachable offense. This may only be the tip of the iceburg.
The invsetigation by the FBI is following business interests of
the Trump family and Russia.  Trump claims he has no business
interests in Russia. One might wonder if this is what Trump is
worried about.

With the GOP in control of congress and the justice department it's
not likely they will move to do anything soon. I kind of think some
of the GOP members  may fall away from the leadership if more evidence
comes to light.Trump hasn't a lot of support from the public over this
firing. Even from his base.

Reports that Trump asked the director to sign a statement to pledge
his loyalty to Trump. The director wouldn't do it. This alone is a
form of obstruction as well. There is reports Trump requires everyone
he hires to sign a loyalty pledge. Also a non disclosure pledge.
If not he won't hire them.

Trump spends most of his evenings alone in the white house. He invites
supporters and cabinet secretaries for dinner. At night he goes up
to the residence and stays up half the night with his phone. Here is
a mon who could do most anything just spends time alone wanting to
show the world he is number one. Such a waste and sad. If he is
impeached he will likely spend the rest of his life blaiming others
for his failure.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 13, 2017, 12:19:48 pm
Trump Day 113
Our man Trump will say anything to get approval of
his base. That doesn't mean he will do it. But he will
say it. I have heard several people say Trump is mentally
unfit to be president. Not just Joe Blow, but Physiologists.

We should amend the constitution to make people prove
they are mentally and physically fit to run for president.
People who care more for themselves than others is
dangerous to the country. Of course in previous years
congress would stand up to a president instend of cowing
to him.

If you watch Trump make a speech in front of a large
audience you can see him work the audience. I have had
a bit of training in public speaking, and Trump is using
every rule in the book to get an audience to follow him and
believe what he says.

People think of them selves first, so learn what they
want and promise it. Use their language so they will
think "He thinks the same as I do." Trump isn't a good
president because his salesman training doesn't work
with the media. Or other professional people. His
con artist games will hurt him as president.

He blaimed the FBI direactor for being a show boater. I
laughed out loud as Trump is the biggest Show boater in
the country. Trump firing the man who is investigating
him for possible collusion with the Russians was a bad
idea. Cover ups put more big shots in jail than most
anything else.

The GOP would be better off selling their souls to the
devil than going along with Trump. He will lead them
down the garden path, and walk away when he is
done. Trump wants them to follow every weird  idea he
has. You might have noticed he has trouble getting good
people to join his administration. They know what he is
and run from him.

I acually blaim the GOP for letting Trump get by with using
the office of president to make money, or encourage the
Russians to help him.Sure he has strong support, but
they are  not puppets. They have minds. They should do
their jobs first and worry about staying in office later.

GOP
Members of congress are still trying to cliam their new health
bill is better. They say it will cover just as many people due
to cutting waste. Well if 880 billion is waste. Then use it to
pay down the national debt instead of giving it to the
millionaires and  billionaires who don't need it.

The Atterney general is moving to get rid of Obama's
idea of letting non violent criminals out. Instead give
them the harshest punishment possible. Why. Because
punishment stops crime. Well that's been tried before
and it doesn't work. It just fills up the prisons. Of course
those who build prisons or run them like all that money.
It's likely a Trump idea because he said he would be
tough on crime. I say lets be smart on crime not tough.

Trump is starting a commission on voter fraud which is
silly. There has been perhaps 30 cases of voter fraud
across the natiion. This is a GOP plan to make it harder
for people to vote nation wide. Especially the elderly.
People of color, and anyone who might not vote for the
GOP.

This is the most discussing thing yet by Trump. We should
be encouraging people to vote, not make it harder. Without
the right to vote we will cease to be a democracy.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 14, 2017, 12:28:03 pm
Trump Day 114
Our man Trump may be in firing mode. I understand he plans
to fire some of his staff, and possibly Cabinet members. He is
angry because everything is moving so slow. Well Trump is
the mover and shaker. So he is slowing the process more
than anyone else.

Of course Trump never blaims his self for anything. A man
who is perfect in his own eyes. Smart because all rich people
are smarter than anyone else..

Trump will be traveling through the middle east this friday
so it will be interesting to see how that goes. I am sure
Trump will say it was great. as everything he does is.

The GOP is making excuses for Trump fire of the FBI director.
A few comments that it was bad timing, but probably a good
move.  Some times I think Trump could walk out and kill a
few people in front of a news camera, and his supporters
would say."Must have been a good reason for it." GOP would
say "We will look into it." It just seems that as Trump is the
original Teflon man. Nothing sticks to  him.

Basically it seems Trump is leading an anti Washington DC
movement that is tied to the GOP because Trump ran as a
republican. I am not sure they are really pro GOP. This is
probably why the GOP congress is so cowed. They are afraid
that Trumps base supporters will leave the GOP if they turn
against Lord Trump. His followers cheer almost every time he
goes against the constitution, and government norms. I am
afraid his base is blind to the needs of government and law.

GOP
Will the GOP hold the president accountable? It's doubful.
The GOP feels all these public complaints are from a small
number of democrat activists. Perhaps, but if it continues
to grow they may change their mind.

The GOP following Trump on voter fraud. They have been
working to limit voting by minorities because they don't
vote for the GOP. They have been pushing voter fraud for
years in the states.. Now they want to make voter limitation
nation wide.  Trump has used the voter fraud excuse ever
since he lost the popular vote. There is no good evidence of
significance fraud except in the minds of the GOP.
 
In Wisconsin alone hundreds of thousands were removed from
voter roles. Clinton lost by 20,000 votes. It's likely if those
people could have voted the results would have been different.

There is evidence how ever that across the nation states removed
hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions from voter roles. The
supreme court relaxed the rules to keep tabs on state voting laws
at the request of the GOP. Ever since many states have moved to
limit voting. If the democrats ever gain control over the federal
and state governments. They best work to restore the right to
vote across the nation. It should be easier to vote not harder.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 15, 2017, 12:03:53 pm
Trump Day 115
Our man Trump made the comment that leads us to believe there
are recordings of Trumps activities as president. Trump has had the
habit of making recordings of his business deals. So there is a
significant possibility there are recordings Tape or digital.

I wonder what happens if Trump claims there are no recordings? Will
the GOP press for a investigation to see if Trump is recording activities
of his presidency? I have my doubts..

Trump claims the Loyalty question didn't happen. But when someone works
for the government they take an oath to be loyal to the country. Trump has
the habit in his business to require loyality to him. This is likely more of
Trump wanting to run the government as he has done with his business.
He seems to think he is the ultimit boss as president, like he was with
his businesses, but he is likely finding out that isn't the case. The
president is one of a triad of government control. President, Congress,
and the Judicial.

Trump has to learn how to work with others to run the government. Even
if he doesn't want to.  Trump never had to work out compromises in his
businesses. So this transition is difficult for him.

Trump wants to say. "You will follow my orders." Or "You will sign an oath
to be loyal to me." Or even Congress will do what I tell them." and finally
"The Courts will follow my decisions." If not he wants to fire them.

It's likely when the FBI directore refused to be loyal to Trump the man..
Trump  decided to fire him.

GOP
The GOP is making noises like they are wanting more information from
Trump, but will they subpeona records from the white house? So far they
aave been reluctant to do so. This congress will likely go down in history
as being concomitant. Especially if Trump is impeached in 2018.

Congress should put party aside and work for the country. They keep
saying they want to  follow the wishes of the voters. Well a majority of
the voters don't agree with them. Their claim of voter fraud is another
way to disregard the wishes of the people for their own benifit.

Some GOP congressmen are saying they don't want a partisan pick
for the FBI director, but it's likely Trump wants a man who will be
loyal to him.

The voters of N Carolina had a victory. The chief justise of the supreme
court stated they wouldn't take up an appeal to reinstate a law the GOP
state legislature passed that would restrict minority voting.  So it's effectively
dead, but I am sure the GOP will keep trying to limit voting in other
states. The GOP should hang it's head in shame, but they will do anything
to win elective office. The Democrats aren't totally innocent, but it's rare
to see them trying to limit voting.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 16, 2017, 12:07:12 pm
Trump Day 116
Our man Trump apparently gave Isis intelligence that was
supplied by a foreign entity to the Russians. The provider
apparently didn't want the Russians to have this information.

Did Trump give this information to make his self look good,
perhaps to gain more favor with Putin? This was a bad call
for the president. Especially when the providers of secret
information can't depend on us to keep the information from
people they don't want to know.

This may cause providers of valuable info to stop providing
it. This kind of info can protect our own people from terrorist
attacks. If people are killed due to loss of valuable info you
can be sure Trump will be playing his blame game.

Trump has the authority to pass on info as he wishes, but
doing it this way is dumb. Trump seems to think he is so
smart he can make the decision on his own. Not to ask the
CIA, or other security professionals.

Trump has in the past said he can work deals on the
fly with anyone. Trump may be a good business man, but
I don't think he fully understands how information like
this can affect the lives of others working to spy on
dangerous people.

The white house is trying to come up with an excuse for
what happened. Seems they are having to cover for Trump
on a regular basis. Trump never wants to admit making a
mistake. Instead he blames his staff or the press, or
anyone but his self.

Trump had the meeting with the Russians in the oval office
in the white house without American press even though
a Russian media photographer was there. Trump needs to
have the press around for his own protection, but it seems
he wants to keep the press at arms length, and blame them
for his problems.

GOP
This event among others is putting more strain on the GOP in
congress. They are having to defend Trumps ideas and actions
even though they make little sense, and hurt national security.

One or two  congressmen have filed to impeach the president.
Obviously the GOP will stall or reject it. Impeachment is in the
house is like a grand jury. To investigate wither or not the
president has committed crimes. If has been determined he
has then it moves on to the senate for trial. At the end the
senate votes to remove the president or not. I think it takes
a 2/3 vote to remove a president.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 17, 2017, 12:39:40 pm
Trump Day 117
Our man Trump apparently asked the FBI director to not
continue the investigation on Flynn. If this is true Trump
is sliding ever deeper into trouble, possibly guity of
obstruction of justist. Perhaps not enough to get the
GOP to start impeachment, but it's putting the GOP's
credibility at risk with the American people.

The GOP has been and still is avoiding the evidence
about Trumps activities that could be unconstitutional.
Do they feel their agenda is so important they will risk
loss of power to keep old man Trump in office? After all
the VP would likely sign anything they want to pass after
Trump was removed. If they continue to stall around 2017
will be gone, and they will be in an election year. Congress
rarely does anything of significance in an election year.

Perhaps the reason they are stalling is the worry that the
VP might be as involved as Trump is. However the GoP is
being pressured by supporters who give the big bucks to
get on with the legislation promised to them. if not the
GOP may not get those big bucks they need next year.

So our friendly GOP is between the proverbial rock and a
hard place. Impeach and loose Trumps support base, or
keep Trump and loose the big money support. Isn't politics
fun.

If Clinton was president and guilty of any one thing that
Trump has done to violate the constitution the GOP would
be falling all over them selves to impeach her.

Unfortuantly the far right press is doing all they cana to
discredit all reports of wrong doing by Trump. Due to this
Trumps supporters are living in the dark believing it's all
fake news and Trump is innocent doing his very best for the
country.

I watch MSnbc. I know it leans to the left and favors
democrats. I have not seen any reporting that looks unfair.
They offer air time to the GOP, but they rarely ever take
the offer. I haven't seen Trump on there. I think it's
because they know questions will be asked that will not be
designed to make them look good. Truth isn't required to make
anyone look good. So they go to Fox news where those in the
GOP can get by with spinning their stories to make them look
good and the democrats bad.

It's no wonder Trump is good friends with the owners of the
FOX network. Trump watches Fox news and requires all TV's in
the white house to be set to fox news. I have heard it's even
required in most government agencies.

It is odd how loyal Trump is to Flynn. Trump fires most people
if they don't agree with him. But Flynn is almost like family
to hear Trump talk. His loyalty to Flynn may end up causing
him to be impeached when it's all over. Suppose Flynn has
something on Trump? Only time will tell.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 18, 2017, 12:12:55 pm
Trump Day 118
Our man Trump is now facing an independant investigator. He can't
directly fire him. Except by telling the assitant atterney general
to do it for him. If Trump tries to fire the indepenant counsel he
will be digging a hole he may not be able to climb out of.

The indepenant counsel is to deter-men if there is any connetion
betwee the Trump campaign and Russia. The possible obstruction
of justice investigation will continue in Congress. The two may
come together in the end, but the American public needs to
see public hearings where possible. The independant councel
has no obligation to make his findings public except to
congress and the justice department.

Will a new FBI director nomiated by the assistant atterney
general best be non partisan or it will create more suspicions
of a cover up.

A report tells of the GOP saying Trump is being paid by the
Russians. They have denied ed the report till they found there
was a recording of it. Now the speaker is calling it a joke. I
wonder what they will say if it's proven Trump is working for the
Russians after all?

The GOP. They claim they are out there with the best interests
of the counntry in mind. Then we find out they hide their dirty
laundry. Many politicans in this country republicans and democrats
alike are wealthy people who want to stay that way. It seems to
me the GOP is worse. The democrats want to help people by providing
basic human needs, and the right to live with good health. To be paid a
decent wage. On the other hand the GOP wants to let people live very
well, or die in poverty, blaming people for being sick or poor. Along with
racial bigotry, and lack of respect for women's rights. It's the stand on
your own two feet way of thinking. This works much of the time, but
there are always those in need.

Not all politicians in the GOP are this way, but the leadership is.
I think many feel they knows what's best to keep the county strong.
Even if it means allowing some to lay sick and die. A healthy society
must work for the good of all. Not just hand outs, but to help those
who are in need. Local charities do pretty well, but have limited resources.

The story of Ebeneezer Scrooge was a morality story at a time where
in England they had debtors prison, work houses for the poor, and people
died of sickness and starvation. The words "If they die it will rid us of the
surplus population" was likely the thinking of the wealthy at the time. 
People of means have a habit of making excuses for not helping the poor.
The popular story helped to point out the suffering of the poor to people
who rarely thought about it at the time.

I think the far right would like to see us return to debtor prisons and work
houses for the poor. There are reports of some states wanting to make people
do extra work for Medicaid. It would be a small step from that to work houses.
Society is never perfect, but to ignore the needs of the disadvantaged will
cost us all in the end.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 19, 2017, 11:52:41 am
Trump Day 119
Our man Trump is calling the investigation of his connection to
the Russians a witch hunt. Even though Trumps connection with
Russians over money continues to deepen over time. I think it's
the early calls for help by Trump to his supporters. To put pressure
on the GOP so they won't push to have him removed even if he is
found guilty. I think he will be crying for help. "Keep me and the
GOP in power so I can do the job I promised to do."

I will make a prediction. If Trump is found guilty of law breaking
the VP will pardon Trump. The VP's credibility is running thin though.
He has been claiming to be in the dark of things during the campaign
when he was running Trumps campaign. He has even told lies to help
cover Trump. Time will tell but if the house of cards called the
Trump administration falls it might take the Vice president with it.

Trump is immune to prosecution as long as he is president, but that
doesn't protect his aids, or others working for Trump in the white
house. I understand some are already looking for other jobs.

The FBI director that Trump fired has memos recording his conversations
with Trump. If these memos have been properly recorded they may put
Trump on the hot seat of obstruction of justice. Even if he isn't
guilty of being in bed with the Russians. If the VP has knowledge of
this and tried to cover it up. Even at Trumps direction he could be
in trouble as well.

Demonstrators in front of the Turkish embassy were attacked by the
security forces of the Turkish leader who was watching nearby. Claims
were made they were protecting the leader of Turkey, but reports of
the leader telling his men to attack the peaceful protesters were made.
One GOP senator called for the expulshion of the Turkish ambassador. When
asked Trump didn't have any comment much less calling for an apology
from the Turkish leader who he just had a meeting with. After all Trump
has a Trump Tower in the Turkish capital. This is why it's bad for a
president to have business interests in foreign countries.

If the GOP keeps power Trump will likely stay till 2020. Even if Trump
is removed. The VP will likely fill the rest of the term. They want to
pack the supreme court for their own benefit. If one more member or
two of the supreme court is replaced with a conservative. The rights of
the LGBI, minorities and women could return to the way they were in
the 1950's. I fear if this happens it will cause massive demonstrations,
and riots across the nation. Much as we had in the 1960's.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 20, 2017, 11:46:12 am
Trump day 120
Our man Trump leaves the country. For the middle east, and
Europe. It was reported that Trump called the ex FBI Director
names (very childish) while talking to the Russians. Saying the
business with the Russian investigation presure is off.. Some how
I think Trump will be feeling more pressure than less by the time
he returns.

There is a press report that there is a person of interest in
the white house. Someone close to Trump. I wonder if the
investigation gets closer will Trump start firing investigators
again?

It will be interesting to see how his overseas meeting go after
all his bad mouthing of the Moslem people over the las two years.
Will Israel  be happy to see him after he hands their info
to the Russians?  Then on to see the Pope. I kind of think Trump
plans that visit to be more of a photo op than anything else.
Trump cliams to be religious, but I think he is only that way
when it's politically advantageous.

I understand Nato members are working to learn how to handle Trump
when he meets them. They want to keep Nato strong, but who knows
what Trump will say. I think this ia a trade meeting of the G7 so
Trump will likely come out bragging.

When president Nixon was threatened with impeachment he resigned
for the good of the country.I kind of think if Trump is impeached and
removed. He will fight to the end, and probably will go on TV to
rant that the presidency was stolen from him and his supporters.
Trying to devide the country instead of admitting he was wrong and
work to bring the country back together.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 21, 2017, 12:07:08 pm
Trump Day 121
Our man Trump has apparntly signed agreements
to sell hundreds of billions in arms to Saudi Arabia.
Of course he is bragging about it, but we have been
selling arms to the Saudi government for years.

He claims it will create thousands of jobs, but I have a
hunch the arms industry is fully employed, and likely
has been for years. Though the jobs are good, I don't
think the arms business is anything to brag about.

Trump was greeted with pomp and ceremony even
given a gold medal. The Saudi's see Trump as someone
like themselves. Who likes to be treated like a sovereign
or king. I am sure they know Trump is a sucker for a
kind word and a smile.

Trumps speech to the arab world was strong against supporters
of terrorisim, but was likely accepted with approval, but probably
not much else. Trump will have a hard time getting them to work
together.

The secretary of state, the ex CEO of Exxon is likely good
friends with the Saudi leaders. I am sure Exxon does a
lot of business there. The Saudi government has used
their oil money to spread a conservative form of Islam
around the middle east for many years. This has likely
helped to spawn terrorists like Isis, and others.


If the Trillions of dollars spent by governments around the
world on arms had been spent on peaceful pursuits  there
would be a lot less suffering and poverty. I think people
who build arms sometimes sell to both sides of a conflict just to
make money. It's likely it will never change as men of greed
think little of others. Be it an arms dealers or a dictator wanting
more power.

Trump moves on to Israel.  It will be interesting to see what
happens there.

GOP and Democrats
It seems politics has become a path to riches these days.
In the past people ran for office to work for the good of
the country. Now it's for their own good. Run for congress
then after a couple terms leave and be an lobbyist or some
other high paying job.

I have said in the past people should be in congress as a
public servant, not as a career. Or a way to gain riches. If
we only have money grubbers in office we are not going
to have good government.

There isn't anything wrong with making money, but when
someone follows a path that takes advantage of others to
do so it's wrong.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 22, 2017, 11:51:46 am
Trump day 122
Our man Trump and the current leader of Israel are good
friends so we can expect to see Trump getting the royal
treatment.

Trump makes the statement that he wants peace as every
president hast 50 years. 

Apparently Trumps giving the Russians the info we got from
Israel isn't going over well behind the scenes. Time will tell
how it affects how much informatioin we get from Israel in
the future. Trump and the leader of Israel tried to give the
impression Trumps meeting with Russia didn't hurt the info
partnership and trust. Behind the scenes the people providing
info are worried that Trump won't protect it.

Trump was bad mouthing the agreement with Iran to stop
their weapons program. Trump said Obama helped save
Iran's economy is wrong. Obama made the agreement to
stop or slow the nukes Iran was gettng close to producing.
Economic snctions weren't working fast enough on their own.

Trump made the statement he wouldn't allow Iran to have
nukes. This would likely lead to war. Their labs are underground.
It would take an invasion to destroy it along with any misssle
program they might have.  I hope we can find a peaceful way
to deal with nukes and missles, not war.

N Korea is still firing off missles, and claims they can hit american
military bases. The Trump administration is still working to find
a peaceful solution.  One wonders how long it will last.

GOP
The GOP is working on their health bill in the senate, and likely
their Tax cut bill they want to call tax reform. The health and
tax bill both are designed to cut billions in taxes to the top
2 percent of the american rich.

The public best keep the phone lines and town hall meetings
going or the GOP will cut millions from programs to help the
poor. Including health care for kids and food programs.Cuts to
mdicaid that help[s the elderly and disabled. They claim it's
all about making the programs viable, but I think it's
all about cutting taxes for their rich friends and supporters.

I suppose many people will have to suffer and die before the
public understands what the GOP is up to. There is no reason
we can't take care of the needy inspite of GOP claims.

Elections. Trump is already putting ads on TV bragging about
how much he is doing for the working class. I saw on that
said he was making it easier for young people to go to college.
Hopefully it's not another university scam.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 23, 2017, 01:02:16 pm
Trump Day 123
Our man Trump commented he had left the middle east while still in
Israel. Guess he isn't very good with geography as Israel is in the
middle east. Also he commeented when asked about security, Trump
replided defensively. I didn't mention Israel to the Russians. No
one ever said he did. So did Trump spill another secret?. The
leader of Israel was taken aback for a moment. Trump doesn't make
it easy even for his friends.

Flynn apparently is going to take the Fith instead of talking
about the Trump administration and his connection to Russia. In
the campaign Trump made the statement complaining about people
taking the Fifth amendment.Because if they did they must be guilty.
I wonder what Trump will say about Flynn doing that very thing?

The possible obstruction of justist by Trump is continueing to
grow even with Trump outside the country. Trump has spent most of
his life telling others do this or that, and if they didn't he
fired them. He is finding out that doesn't work as president. I
wonder if he will learn from his mistakes? It's hard to say as
Trump seems to have a very short attention span. So when he talks
unscripted he says what comes to mind. Even if it's irrational
or dumb.

There was a terrorist bomb attack in England, President Trump
condemed the attack, and wishes to rid  the world of such
activities. .

GOP
I understand they will start working on the new budget. Trump wants
to cut funding for medicaid, food, health care for kids, women and
the disabled to name a few. In the campaign Trump said he wouldn't
be for cutting help for the needy. Just more of his lies. Perhaps
some of his supporters will be hurt if his ideas are passed.







Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 23, 2017, 07:13:44 pm
Read it and weep, folks. The cuts President Trump wants in the 2018 budget. It ain't pretty. This is Trump's equivalent of "Let them eat cake." or He continues to rob from the poor to give to the rich. >:( The sooner we get this idiot out of office, the better.  :goldpissed:

A few sample links:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/22/news/economy/trump-budget-gift-to-rich/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/politics/mulvaney-defends-trump-budget-cuts/index.html?sr=fbCNN052317mulvaney-defends-trump-budget-cuts0930PMStoryLink&linkId=37936272

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/politics/trump-budget-cuts-programs/index.html?sr=fbCNN052317trump-budget-cuts-programs0805PMStoryLink&linkId=37933918
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 24, 2017, 01:03:36 pm
Read it and weep, folks. The cuts President Trump wants in the 2018 budget. It ain't pretty. This is Trump's equivalent of "Let them eat cake." or He continues to rob from the poor to give to the rich. >:( The sooner we get this idiot out of office, the better.  :goldpissed:

A few sample links:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/22/news/economy/trump-budget-gift-to-rich/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/politics/mulvaney-defends-trump-budget-cuts/index.html?sr=fbCNN052317mulvaney-defends-trump-budget-cuts0930PMStoryLink&linkId=37936272

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/politics/trump-budget-cuts-programs/index.html?sr=fbCNN052317trump-budget-cuts-programs0805PMStoryLink&linkId=37933918

Yes Kobuk. The new GOP and Trump have little compassion for the disadvantaged.
They claim the states will take care of the needy. Well unlike the Federal government
the states have to balance their budget. So if they run short the needy are just out.
Even if it means they will die, be they child , disabled, or elderly.

They claim cutting taxes will create jobs, the age old cry of the rich. We make jobs.
Unions were created due to the kind of sorry jobs the rich create.

Trump Day 124
Our man Trump sent some of his staff back to washington DC.
Perhaps he was wanting to have some people covering him while
he is in Europe. After all the investigation is rolling along.

Turns out the Treasury department is dragging is feet after
saying they would provide the financial records on the Trump
campaign. Perhaps it's just slow going, but is Trump
asking others to slow down the investigation as he did
the FBI?

Truns out Trump asked several people to not investigate himself
and flynn. If this isn't obstruction of justice what is? Seems the
GOP is more worried about leaks of information to the press than
wither Trump obstructed justice or not.

I think the GOP feels they can still win in their highly
gerrymandered districts. Turns out the GOP lost a supreme court
ruling  that will change some of these districts the GOP created
to isolate minority voters. This may raise a few beads of sweat
on the foreheads of the GOP, where they will have to win in a
more fairly set up district. I think gerrymandaring was origianlly
created to balance districts to prevent unfair advantages, but both
parties have been guilty of abusing it. More so the GOP staring
in 2010. Voting dstricts should be setup by a bipartisan commission
not by the prevailing party.

The GOP can say the town hall meetings are full of democrats,
but the election in 2018 will tell. Even if the GOP is tossed out
people shouldn't expect a big change. The GOP will fight to have
their way, and even if Trump is gone the VP isn't likely to sign
bills that go against the GOP way of thinking. So it will be 2020
where we can choose a new president. It's possible the GOP
could regain control of the house even if they loose the white
house. If people want the country to shift more to the center left
they must keep the GOP out of power, because they believe the
super rich should run the country.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 25, 2017, 12:34:52 pm
Trump Day 125
our man Trump is pushing to increase the numbers of troops going
to Afghanistan. Trump seems to think we can stop alkida with the
military. These bad guys hide among non combatants or run to
Pakistan. Are we going to follow them, and spread the war? Who
knows with a man like Trump. If we start destroying villages the
population will turn against us.

Trump ran on getting us out of foreign wars, but now he apparently
plans to get us deeper into one.

More reports that the Trump campaign people were possibly
involved with Russian officials before the election.

Trump told the Philippine President where two of our submarains
were.This is a possible security violation. The military doesn't
tell anyone where our subs are.

Trump calls the super rich very smart. It's possible he
thinks the poor, and minorities are loosers. Perhaps any
one who hasn't made it rich is a looser to him. I had kind
of forgot, but in the past the term looser was used for
people who end up poor or on homeless.

This came to mind when Trump called the suiside bomber a
looser.

GOP
The reported changes created by the ACA replacement bill passed
by the house of representatives is out. 14 million loosing coverage
by 2018, and 23 million in 10 years. premiums going up in the first
year. Coverage costs for older americans could increase by 800 percent.
Not counting the loss of medicaid coverage for children, the working
poor, disabled and elderly. Costs to people with existing illness
could go very high, perhaps $100,000.00 a year for limited coverage.

A man running for congress from Montana apparently attacked a
news reporter. The GOP canidate claims the reporter was agressive,
but evidence doesn't support that claim. It will be interesting to
see if the public in Montana want a man who can't control his temper
when faced with hard questions. Our law makers should be able to deal
with tough situations, without turning to needless violence.

The GOP should distance them selves from anyone who acts like a bully.
It's unamerican in my opinon for our lawmakers to attack the press
physically or otherwise. The constitution provides protection for the free
press. Even when politicians don't like it.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 26, 2017, 12:23:52 pm
Trump Day 126
Our man Trump was giving some of the Nato members a hard
time because they haven't been paying their share. This
is reasonable. Nato members want mutiual protection. They
should be willing to pay their share. Trump was scolded over
the information leaks about the suicide bomer. Trump said
he woul see it was checked into. Trump did push another
Nato member aside so he could be front and center for photo
ops. Not too suprising with a man like Trump.

When Trump met the Pope. The Pope told Trump he should watch
his diet. Trump is fat even though he doesn't want to admit it.

It appears Trumps son in law is being looked at by the FBI.
Perhaps to see what deals he had with the Russians. If they
look into his businesses who knows what the FBI might dig up.
I understand this guy is much as Trump is. A man after the
almighty dollar. Trumps problems may take his whole famly
donw with him. Only Time will tell.

With Trump gone overseas the staff has been working on ways
to respond to reports on investigations by the FBI, press and the
special council. People to go out and spin stories in the
presidents favor. Snow jobs would be a good name for it. Seems
Trumps staff has been keeping him too busy to wach cable news
and be on Twitter while on the trip. Trump will likely go back
to being his self when he returns.

GOP
The man running for the US congress in Montana has been charged
with assult. So far the GOP leadership isn't distancing them selves
from this person.They basicly said if the people in Montana vote
for him it's fine with us. Seems the GOP only cares about winning.
Even if it's someone who attacks a news reporter for no good reason,
then apparently lies about it. Of course the GOP and Trump doesn't
have any problem with telling lies.

The latest report about the ACA shows there are 27 million
people on the program. This is close to the prediction of
there would be 30 million by now. The ACA is failing due
to the GOP cutting subsities to help peple pay the insurance
premiums. Why? So they can cut taxes for the rich.

The strangest part is the ACA was originally a GOP plan, but
when Obama started pushing it. It became Obama Care because the
GOP did not want to help Obama at all. The first two years
the Democrats controled congress and that's why Obama was able
to get some work done. After 2010 the GOP took over the house
and said NO to everything. Including fixing the ACA. A plan
they first proposed, and now want to get rid of it at any cost.

The FBI is holding the memos of the ex FBI director till they
check with the special council who is investigating the Trump
campaign. The ethics committee has requested them, but it may
be sometime before they are released.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 27, 2017, 11:23:00 am
Trump Day 127
Our man Trump's son n law is reported to asking the Russian
ambassador for a secure line to the Russian government. To
keep it private. Perhaps it was just lack of experience or
was it intentionally wanting to keep a converstation secret
from the US government. I think if you or I had done this we
would looking at prison time. So it will be interesting to
see what happens. His security clearance should be pulled if
nothing else.

I imagine Trump will make excuses for his son n law. Though
there may be some back room teling him to be more careful.

This and other business the Trump administration has had with
Russia screams secracy. So what are they trying to hide? Is it
just money matters, or if it's something illegal like money
laundering? The federal country club jail may have some new
members. I am not sure even the GOP would try to protect all
those envolved.

Congressional investiaating committees are asking for all papers
from the Trump administration all the way back to the beginning
of the Trump campaign. Even though the GOP is still trying to
stall and make excuses with each new suspision.

During the Nato meeting Trump elbowed his way to the front sso
he could be seen during a press briefing. Treating other members
with a lack of respect. He should have made clear we would stand
with the other members if attacked, but he didn't. Nato stood with
us after 911 by goint to Afganistan and fighting along side our
troops. Was this because of Trumps connection with Russia? Only
Trump can say.

Trumps supporters might like his bluster, but respect is the name of
the game when talking to other countries. Especially those who are
our friends. Trump needs to learn this.

Trump continues to hide from the press. His claims the press is
bad is unamerican. His supporters should want to know what Trump
is up to. Not just say I am sure he is doing a good job. Trump should
have denouced the attack on the reporter by the GOP canidate in
Montana. People want their freedom os peech. They should demand
accountability from thos in government. The GOP never has liked the
press because they see it as affiliated with the left or democrats.



GOP
Is the GOP like Nero who fiddled while Rome burned? Seems like they
don't care what Trump does as long as they can cut taxes for their
very rich supporters.

GOP supporters may think attacking the press is a good thing. I think
they would feel differently if they had to accept new laws out of the
blue. With no acccountability.

The press shouldn't be expected to spin news to make one party or the
other look good, but the GOP thinks they should for them and not the
democrats. When they don't the GOP attacks the press verbally and  even
physically.

Without a free press president Nixon would have gotten away with his
obstruction of justice . Perhaps those in the GOP think he should have
gotten away  with it. I don't know, but if we allow our leaders to break
the law it will lead to anarchy.

I want to thank those of our military for their service and sacrifice
on this comming Memorial day.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 28, 2017, 12:07:42 pm
Trump Day 128
Our man Trump has been bragging on how much he accomplished with
his trip. He failed to mention what he said in Israel about his giving
info provided by Israel, who didn't approve it. He failed to mention that
he bullied the other members of Nato, and in the G7. I don't think Trump
is the president of Nato even though he acted like it. Several members
(allies by the way) were insulted by Trumps actions.

We need better relations with our allies not worse. Leaders of other
countries are not going to let Trump lead them by the nose. I understand
Germany has little confidence in Trump. The Baltics who have been there
to help us in wars were insulted by Trump. Putin must be grinning from
ear to ear.

Trump enjoyed how he was treated in Saudi Arabia. A country that spends
billions spreading radical islam, and has been for over 40 years. It's very
likely they were behind the 911 attack, or at least supported those who did
it. The Saudi's are scared to death that they will be over thrown if they don't
push conservative Islam. Trump has claimed he doesn't like radical Islam so
why treat the Saudi's like friends. He had complained that Clinton took money
from the Saudi's because of the things they do to their people. Isn't it odd
he accepted a large donation from them even though he didn't think Clinton
should. Trump only needed to be diplomatic, not cozy up to them. Just more
of Trumps Hypocrisy.

Trump is calling reports by the major media fake, or made up stories. Does
he really think the people of america are going to accept his word when he
lies all the time. Perhaps his supporters and GOP want to believe his lies, but
I don't. I have seen the news media tell half truths, or even spin, but I haven't
seen any outright lies. If they did it would catch up with them. Lies end up
needing even more lies. If the major media makes a mistake they correct it.

Trump never admits making a mistake. He is perfect, and smart. In reality
he is foolish and ignorant because he thinks he knows everything.

GOP
The GOP is calling the attempt to setup a secure channel to Russia vis the
Russian ambassador nothing to be worried about. Even though no other
president has tried such a thing GOP or DEM. How long will the GOP stall
and try to cover Trumps problems?  I suppose as long as Trumps supporters
do. I can only say they are walking a knife edge. If Trump falls out of favor
the GOP will fall with him.

I wonder if the working  class really wants the owners of Walmarts to get a 52
billion dollar tax cut? While cutting medicaid for  children, disabled, and the
elderly. We aren't talking about lazy people getting aid, but people who can't
help them selves except to suffer and die. I say SHAME on the GOP, and those
who support such a thing. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

Trump will lie to the bitter end. If he doesn't go to jail he will be on TV claiming
the presidency was stolen from him by the fake media.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 29, 2017, 11:40:24 am
Trump Day 129
Our man Trump has returned, and is claiming the media is making up stories
about his son n law. Trumps son n law will likely be with Trump in the white
house as long as Trump is. He has already said he is totally behind his son n
law.

Being Memorial day Trump is out to lay the reef at the tomb of the unknown
soldier. Trump has shown a lot of support for the military. This is one thing I
commend him for. I hope he doesn't use the military for more useless wars. If
he really does care about those in arms he won't. The biggest honor any
president can give to those who died is keeping the peace, and only going
to war to protect the country and our freedom.

It's sad, but Trump has done things that put our soldiers, and intelligence
people at risk around the world. Now Trump is increasing the fighting in
Afghanistan. Trumps calling the free press names to cover his lies hurts
the nation. I hope he learns better but Trump only cares about his self
and will never really change. I wish Trump was as good a president as
he is at making speeches.

The GOP does little for needy people. So I leave it at that.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 29, 2017, 12:09:22 pm
Quote
Being Memorial day Trump is out to lay the reef at the tomb of the unknown
soldier. Trump has shown a lot of support for the military. This is one thing I
commend him for. I hope he doesn't use the military for more useless wars. If
he really does care about those in arms he won't. The biggest honor any
president can give to those who died is keeping the peace, and only going
to war to protect the country and our freedom.

I think it's a complete disgrace for Trump to be showing support for our troops when he himself dodged serving in the military for our country.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 30, 2017, 12:11:04 pm
Quote
Being Memorial day Trump is out to lay the reef at the tomb of the unknown
soldier. Trump has shown a lot of support for the military. This is one thing I
commend him for. I hope he doesn't use the military for more useless wars. If
he really does care about those in arms he won't. The biggest honor any
president can give to those who died is keeping the peace, and only going
to war to protect the country and our freedom.

I think it's a complete disgrace for Trump to be showing support for our troops when he himself dodged serving in the military for our country.  >:(

I feel much the same Kobuk, but Trump is president, and as president he fulfilled a
tradition that has existed since the civil war.  Many people and veterans across the
nation would have been disappointed if Trump hadn't placed the reef on the tomb of
the unknown soldiers.  I have my doubts that Trump really cares about our soldiers.
We should remember the disgraceful way he treated the Gold Star Muslim family
last augest. Why? To use the fact they were Muslims to gain support from those
who hate and fear others due to ignorance.

Trump Day 130
Our man Trump is feeling the strain due to all the leaks and problems wiht his staff.
He has depended on his son n law quite often in helping him with decisions. Trump
is going to have to decide who to keep and who has to go or he will accomplish little
in his presidency

The big problem Trump has is he still feels a business model will work for running
the country. Running a large business is more like an autocracy than a democracy.
Untill Trump understands the difference he will continue to  have problems with
congress, the courts, FBI, and his justice department.

Trump should be trying to bring the country together. So far he only talks to his
supporters. If he has a ralley he only wants his supporters there. If anyone tries
to speak out against him he says "Get them out of here"  Anyone who hides from
the truth will continue to make the same mistakes. Over and over.

GOP
The GOP is split between the ultra conservatives. amd their moderates. Trump
needs to reach out to the democrats. It is always hard if not impossible to
get everyone in a political party to agree. The GOP is no different if not worse.
The GOP leadership has a very conservative agaenda. If they don't moderate
it's unlikely they will accomplish very much. The majority of the country iwants
to help those in need. Most want people to try to help them selves, but not
forgotten.

The GOP is more of a party for business people. People who start businesses
are hard working stand on your own two feet types. So they don't like to give
their hard earned money to those they consider to be lazy bums. They believe
in bottom up government because they have better control of local government.
Federal control often steps on the plans of local business. Makes them spend
money on things they may not believe in. The party leans toward people wiht
strong convictions. No Gun control, no land control, no labor contols. One could
say it's the "Me Party." Where as the democrats tend to be more of a party for
all the people. In the past both parties worked together, to strike a balance
between each ones beliefs. Untill we return to the days of compromise it's
going to be a mess.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 31, 2017, 12:35:37 pm
Trump Day 131
Our man Trump and the Russian connection investigations are stalling
legislation. Reports of unrest among those in the west wing of the
white house have been in the news for days. Several names to replace
the current crew have been mentioned. Some from the campaign days.

This business with Trumps son n law has caused Trump some consternation.
He claims it's unfounded because it's from unknown sources. Yet
he made that claim from a Fox news report that came from a unknown
source as well. As usual Trump ties his self to any story he feels
will help verify his side of things.

Trump could put an end to this if he would just open up and tell
the truth about why he wants good relations. Is it personal relations
or better ones for the country?  Only time will tell. There are
currently around 20 people under investigation for this and that
tied to the white house. If it turns out to  be illegal they may
all be facing jail time. It appears there could be a lot of money in
the mix. So it could be all about Russian money for Trump and his
loyal friends.

Trumps approval rating edged up a bit with his trip to the middle
east. Why? Who knows. Looked like he caused our country more trouble
than anything else. The Saudi arms sales was pretty much a done deal
anyway as they are always buying arms.

Since Trumps trip gave him a little boost in approval he may be
out of the country more often.

GOP
There are reports the senate GOP leader says there isan't enough
votes to pass a replacement for the ACA at this time. This will
stall the Tax Cut bill since they need to cut medicaid in the
health bill so the government can afford the big tax cuts for
the top 2 percent of the rich.

About everytime you see a GOP member answer questions about
the cuts to medicaid they stutter around trying to make good
excuses for their shameful actions. Making stupid claims
they can big cuts in medicaid witout hurting anyone. It's
nothing but a big tax cut for their rich supporters, of
course they don't want to talk about that.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 01, 2017, 12:23:51 pm
Trump day 132
Our man Trump is likely going to back us out of the clean energy
agreement. If he does it will put the USA behind other country's
in clean energy development over the next several yearss. We will
fall behind the rest of the world. In fact China will likely lead
the world in clean energy production.

You can be sure Saudi Arabia wants us to buy more of their oil.
Continuing to depend on crude oil for energy will fund the terrorists
of the middle east. If the world could cut back on the use of crude
oil it would reduce the money for places like Syeria, and Iran. It's
oil money that allows them to keep a strong military.

It's likely Trump told Saudi Arabia we would continue to  protect
their oil shipments with our military, and as long as we depend
on crude oil we need to.

There is a report that Trump may be letting the Russians move back in
to the two fancy homes that Obama made them leave because of their
interference of our presidential election. Trump is supposed to be making
some kind of deal. Time will tell what Trump does.

GOP
The GOP is the only conservative Party in the world that claims global
warming is a fantasy created by environmentalists. Why? It's likely
because they get millions of dollars to support their re election from
big Oil, Gas, and the coal industry who wants us to continue to burn dirty
fuels. Seems our friendly GOP thinks more of the dollar than the  future
of our planet, and future jobs for our people.

The GOP points to China saying they are building coal fired power plants,
one every 10 days. This is wrong. They are shutting coal plants down. China
is spending billions on solar, and other clean energy. In fact their investment
in solar has driven the cost of solar down for us all.. They know using fossil
fuel is bad for their cities, and the people living there.

Over 300,000 people work in the clean energy business, and it's growing.
Trump and the GOP could slow this growth by passing regulations to hurt
clean energy and help dirty energy. The government should be supporting
clean energy. Not slow it.

The FBI directory that Trump fired has been cleared to testify at congressional
hearings. A public hearing by the way. It will be interesting to see what he
has to say about his meetings with Trump.

H Clinton spoke out today. Not as a candidate, but to explain what she thinks
of Trump and why we should be concerned as a nation. Also she feels women
are still treated differently. Taken less seriously. A double standard. I
felt at the time more people would have voted for her if she had been a
man. I have heard people say. "I don't think a woman should be president"
She didn't loose the real election. She lost the electoral election. A
an outdated process that should be done away with.  Of course the
GOP likes it as it's helped them win 2 presidential elections even
though their canidates lost the popular vote both times.

After hearing what she said. Trump tweeted. "Crooked Hilary." Rather
strange statement since she isn't under investigation and he is. Poor
Trump. He still hates the fact Clinton beat him big in the popular vote.

I think Clinton would serve the democrats better by not talking
about the election of Trump. Many people see it as sour grapds on
her part. Besides it gives Trump an excuse to run her down.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 02, 2017, 11:28:01 am
Trump Day 133
Our man Trump pulls us out of the Pais accords. To hear
Trump talk the world is out to get us. A very cynical
view of the world. The Pairs agreement was is voluntary,
Trum made it sound like we were bound by it. Trump and
the GOP is wanting to send us to the past not the future.

If we stand still the country will suffer. We must
train workers for the jobs of the future not the past. Big
business is always slow to change, but we must be willing to
change or we will loose to those who will.

Trumps speeches always seem to be so dark. Full of gloom and
doom if we don't do what he says. Trump continues to play on
the fears of the public. Clean energy is the future. The days
of oil and coal is in the past.  Especially Coal.

Many large corporations understand this, but Trump and the GOP
wish to follow their big money supporters who want to keep us in
the past. To force people to use energy from coal instead of Solar, Wind
or Natural gas, all of which is cleaner. I understand many jobs depend
on coal. Around 80,000, but clean energy employs well over one million
jobs and counting.

Change is always hard for those affected. When motor cars became
popular many people lost jobs making horse drawn carriages and
wagons. They adapted as people have over the centuries with each
form of progress. Those who won't are left behind.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 03, 2017, 01:01:53 pm
Trump day 134
Our man Trump is making it possible for business owners who have
religious problems with providing contraception for their women
employees Not only that he expanded it to any morel conviction.
I am not sure why religious people are against contraception.
Could be they don't like sex except for reproduction. I have
a hunch most of those kind of people are sexual hypocrites. It's
just another attack on women's rights by Trump and the GOP.

During his speech about withdrawing from the Paris accord Trump
said the Tax cut bill is moving through congress. This is another
lie by Trump. The change to the ACA will have to happen first or
there won't be enough money to cover a tax cut for the rich.

Also Trump claimed he was elected by Pittsburgh Pennsylvania to
withdraw. Well the people of Pittsburgh voted 80 percent for Clinton
not Trump. They didn't ask Trump to pull out of the Paris accord either.
They are working hard to improve their economy in spite of Trump.

There is a report that Trump is calling the ex FBI director a lier.
Seems Trump is even looking into stopping any testimony by the
FBI director to congress. Trump just continues to add more
and more suspicion on his self and his people.

There are reports that Trump wanted to drop all sanctions on Russia 
soon after he took office. Perhaps Trump believes Putin will be a nice
guy if Trump is nice. Well Putin isn't nice unless he wants to be. Perhaps
Trump is wanting a big loan to cover some debts? Only time will tell.

I just found out Trump has twitter bots. His total follower base is
likely half of what it appears to be. Seems Trump thinks he has
to prove people like him even when it's a lie. This kind of thing
is just sad. more proof Trump is a narcissist

GOP
The GOP is still working to replace the ACA so they can work on their
big tax cut. They should be working to balance the budget not cutting
taxes for the rich or big corporations who will likely use any savings
to automate not hiring more people.

The GOP should also we working to regulate drug prices. While
the CEO's big drug corporations are paid muli million dollar bonuses
the common man is charged huge prices for drugs they need. They
claim it's to cover research and development, but they spend millions
on advertising selling drugs and add that to the cost of drugs that
have been around for many years.

I heard a report Trump asked why the government can't bargain
prices with drug company's. He only needs to ask the GOP as they
agreed not to.

Many industries operate on greed and lies. It's time we regulate
to keep them honest and limited to a good profit, not a huge one
for products because people need them to live. Other countries put
reasonable limits on prices for life saving drugs, and products.

Prices for luxury items can be controlled by the market place as
it's a choice people can live without.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on June 03, 2017, 10:47:39 pm
Loc just recently posted about the London terror incidents that happened tonight.
http://forums.furtopia.org/news-forum/ongoing-incidents-in-london/msg1061201/#msg1061201

You can bet that Trump will try and spin this to his advantage and push for his "travel ban" to be reinstated. But the thing is, you can't put out a travel ban on terrorists that are "already" in a country and maybe have been so for quite some time. Travel bans will not stop terrorists. In this day and age of computers, cellphones, social networking, etc., a terrorist organization doesn't need to send it's militants overseas anymore to create havoc when instead it can recruit and radicalise people who are already living in Western countries through the Internet like social networking.
This is the new face of terrorism. The new threat.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 04, 2017, 01:05:32 pm
Trump Day 135  Most news is about terrorist.

Our man Trump responds poorly to the attack in England. His
claims this shows we need his travel ban is wrong. The last
thing we want to do is make the Islamic people feel  like
second class citizens. It is a very small minority who are involved
with terrorism. When people feel they have  no future they are
more likely to kill themselves. Especially if it gives them power
over those they see as powerful.

The far right of the GOP may push for radical actions if we have
any more terrorist acts in the USA. Talk of internment camps are
reported. This would be the worst thing Trump could do. I hope
the report is wrong.  When we start putting people in jail because
of their religion, or dress, we can expect them to push back.

I wish Trump would quit only worrying about the people who
voted for him, and think about the country as a whole. The GOP
has apparently convinced him to follow them, and the rest of us
can jump in a lake. Trump could be a great president, but he
only thinks about his self and plays to those he feels he can
con into following him.

I think Trump knows to stay in office and have a chance to be
re elected he has to play to his base of support. He has a solid
30 percent of the GOP behind him. He would have to do something
totally stupid to loose many of them. The far right of the GOP is
working hard to reinforce local support across the country. Local news
outlets are being asked or perhaps told to only say good things about
the GOP and Trump.

Seems the longer the Trump administration is around the more Trump
thinks he can do whatever he wants. Unless the GOP puts a stop to it
he will just go farther to the right.

GOP
The GOP is mostly supporting Trumps withdrawal form the Paris accord.
Making excuses for Trumps decision as usual.  They keep saying climate
is just haveing a natural warming period. I wonder who made the GOP
expertson climate? They have lots of excuses, but their biggest excuse is
it will hurt jobs and the economy. Well clean renewable energy is where the
good jobs are growing. If we don't push for it other countries will have the
jobs instead.

Already coastal cities are having to raise sea walls, and building pumping
stations to  deal with higher tides. Sea rise will hurt the economy much
more than regulations on emissions. Most of our power plants have
converted to natural gas. I heard a senator saying we need coal becuse
it can be stored at the power plant. Well a power plan goes through train
loads of coal. Storage of enough to last months would be difficult at best.

It's just political excuses that will likely hurt us all in the end.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 05, 2017, 12:54:38 pm
Trump Day 136
Our man Trump loves to brag about what he wants to do. Most of
it is smoke and mirrors. He has already made excuses for not pushing
for good health care even though he campaigned he was for full
protection for all. I think he has people around him who don't care
if people have good health care, The problem with Trump is he listens
to friends for advice instead of professionals who really understand
what the people and country needs.

Trump still wants the 3 month ban on Travel. Perhaps someone should
tell him it's been 4 months since he made his executive order. Trump
and others seem to think we can prevent terrorisim by locking the
boarders against Muslims. This will not stop terrorisim. We have
had more terrorist activities by home people than foreigners.

Trump is still bad mouthing the Mayor of London, England with tweets.
Claiming he left the public vulnerable by saying there was no reason
to be alarmed. I think the Mayor was trying to calm the public. Trump
is just hurting his self with these tweets.

Trump is still claims he is for making the country Great again. Pushing
to rebuild our infrastructure. This is fine, but Obama called for it 4
years ago, and the GOP said no. Not surprisingly Trump is claiming
credit for job and economic gains even though he hasn't done much of
anything except lie and make empty promises.

While Trump is being cozy with Russias Putin he should ask him to
stop sending shiploads of coal and other industrial products to North Korea.
At least till North Korea stops it's missile and nuke program. Shipments
have increased 70% over the last few months. Perhaps to make up for
China's slow down.

Trump is claiming to make the VA better. Only time will tell. Many
have tried over the years.

Trump is wanting to change the Air Traffic control system. Moving to
a GPS instead of radar and ground based navigation aids. Trump will
likely find out how slow change happens. Trump wants to Privatize the
air control system. One operating on non profit. I really hate to see us
move to GPS dependence. Satellite navigation works well, but if there
was a war they are very vulnerable, and subject to signal jamming.
Trump bad mouthed Obama saying he spent billions with no improvement.
Well this will take years to fully implement. It will still require to operate
under government regulation. So even though it's a good idea it's more
about politics by Trump than anything else.

The GOP wants to privatize everything. This is well and good as long
as we can keep greedy people out and maintain public safety. Almost
everything paid for with  taxes are vulnerable to corruption. Many
politicians are guilty of corruption. GOP and Democrat.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 06, 2017, 12:28:45 pm
Trump Day 137
Our man Trump is on the twitter path. Still running down the
Mayor of London, England. He took a statement the mayor said
out of context. Now he is tweeting about his Travel Ban again.
I think Trump is doing all this to get his supporters stirred up
about Muslims, because he promised to keep them out.

Trump is going to hit a wall. The courts don't run for office so
he can't get his supporters to fire any judge. Trump is just
killing his chances to get a Travel Ban with his Tweets. Trump has
managed to win court cases with high priced lawyers so perhaps
the thinks he can do it as president.

Trump seems to think he can do anything as long as his supporters
are happy. He needs to understand there are many more who didn't
vote for him, and if he doesn't work to bring the country togeather.
He won't get anything done. That means compromise, a word that
probably doesn't exist in his vocabuary.

Trump continues to hide his tax records from the public. Even as
president. What is he hiding? He has claimed people will use them
to create fake news about him. If Trump  has nothing to hide he
would benifit a lot by releasing his taxes..

Trump even after almost 5 months in office hasn't filled many jobs
that are needed to  run the government. With all his claimes to be a
good manager he seems to play more than work. Golf, watching tv, and
tweeting wierd statments.

The GOP seems to be afraid of Trumps supporters and the far
right. They best move away from the far right if they want
to stay in office.

When Trump spoke to the NATO allience he failed to declare
he would stand by artical 5. Which means if one is attacked
all will stand with that one even in war. By not stating it
in clear terms it worries the allience. Hopefully NATO will
work more to  protect it's self.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 07, 2017, 02:35:51 pm
Trump day 138
Our man Trump seems to be loosing control. He appears t bes trying to
blame everyone but his self for his problems. He seems to think
everyone should follow him no matter what he does.

Trump seems to treat others like they don't know anything. He acted
this way during his campaign. Like those in government are not to
be believed or listened to.

Seems when Trump gets an idea he goes with it instead of asking for
advice first. This can get people in trouble. If Trump
continues to work like this he is asking for more trouble..

It is true government does seem rather inept at times, but it's the
process of trying to follow laws and regulations that gums up the works.
Trump seems to think common sense answers should be followed.The
country and world is way too complex for this to work.

Trump acts like a coffee shop politiecan who thinks they have all
the answers, but knows little of how government works. People like
this would be lost and frustrated as Trump is trying to be president.
People need years of government experience to do a passable job
running a country. The common sense approach may sound good, but it
will lead to failure. Trump has apparently operated his businesses by
brute force for years. This has worked for him, but it won't work as
president. The only thing saving him is the fact the GOP congress
continues to cover for him.

The ex FBI director will testify tomorrow in congress about his
meetings with Trump. It's likely the GOP will try to spin this to
help Trump once again. A paper has been released saying the
FBI didn't have Trump under investigation. I am sure the GOP
will use this to defend Trump.

Who can say, but Trump and the GOP want to get out from under
the Russian connections with Trumps campaign. So they can carry
on with making health care more expensive, so they can cut taxes
for their rich supporters.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on June 07, 2017, 03:44:47 pm
BREAKING NEWS!  :o

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-testimony-released/index.html

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/06/07/os-jcomey-060817.pdf
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 08, 2017, 12:14:12 pm
BREAKING NEWS!  :o

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-testimony-released/index.html

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/06/07/os-jcomey-060817.pdf


Thanks for the info Kobuk

Trump DAy 139
Our man Trumps meeting with the ex FBI direcort will be
covered in a congressional committee. It appears it's
going to be more contentous between the GOP and Democrats.
Not counting tweets by Trump while it's going on.

Trump asks for Loyalty from those he feels work for him. This
is fine in business, but not in government as each government
employee is to follow the constitution first, even if a
president asks them to do otherwise. Trump told the FBI
director he wanted loyalty to him, apparntly over the
constitution, and the law.

Already the GOP is saying they see no real problem with any
of Trumps meetings. Even though if the director says the same
thing under oath as he said in his prepretory statement, law
professionals feel Trump has crossed the line. Even if he has
only congress can pull the plug on Trumps presidentcy, and that
isn't likely to happen unless Trump does something they can't
cover up.

One GOP sentator said we have no plans to get rid ot Trump
as we have an agenda to pass. Sounds like he felt the ends
justify the means. I imagine if asked the senator would have
a spin on it.

I will comment on the hearing when I lean more about it.
I do think it was rather partisan for the GOP chairman to limit
the senators to one question each. Was he afraid someone might
ask to many questions for Trumps own good? Usually it's 
only a time limit for questions.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on June 08, 2017, 12:23:05 pm
Holds signs and starts chanting:

"Lock him (Trump) up! Lock him up!"   :goldpissed:
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 09, 2017, 12:56:40 pm
Trump day 140
Reports of Trump claiming the ex FBI director is lying about
Trump said he didn't ask for Loyalty even though he has a habit
of asking for loyalty of all who work for him. He claimed the
director leaked what was said in a meeting after he warned
of having taped the meeting. The director made the leak hoping
to get the justice department to put a special prosecutor in place,
not to punish Trump.

Also the director said he would be glad to have any and all
tapes release if they exsist. I will be surprised if any
tapes show up. Even though Trump is in the habit of having
his meetings recorded.

The director felt Trump wanted him to stop investigating Flynn
even if Trump only said he hoped the director would.

I think the hearing indicated Trumps actions and meeting with the
ex FBI director clearly show good reason for the house to begin
impeachment proceedings. It's a process that may or may not end up
showing cause for Trump to be removed. If the GOP fails to do their
duty they should replaced with those who will.

Will the people believe the director who has the the respect of
many people for being honest,  or Trump a man who has the habit
of lying at the drop of a hat.

The GOP is continueing to stall, claiming they need to work on
their agenda instead of worrying about this investigation. They
should be more concerned about the government instead of their
rich supporters who want their taxes cut and and leave health
care to the states.

After all this the Russian investigation goes on, and may end
up including Trump and many of those around him.

Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 10, 2017, 12:13:34 pm
Trump Day 141
Our man Trump said he would sware under oath his side of
what happented in the meetings with the ex FBI director. I
have a hunch his lawyer cringed at Trumps words. Trump
thinks he is so smart he can defend is own actions. I kind of
think he is in for a shock if the Democrats take over in 2018

Trump still hints there are tapes of his meetings with the ex FBI
director. He should turn them over. It would prove who is right.

Trump is always promising to do this or that. "In a short period
time." Or some other amount. It would be nice if he would quit
playing games and support the country as a whole, and not just
those who voted for him.

I can hear Trump now. Vote for the GOP because the democrats
want to get rid of me. That will be his campaign speech for GOP
congress members running for office.

GOP
As it happens in the Senate the GOP are creating a replacement
for the ACA in a back room hidden from the public and press. No
hearings, or any public discussion. They seem to be afraid if the
public found out they would pressure the senators to vote against
it. The GOP needs to get rid of the ACA so they can cut taxe for
their rich supporters. In fact anyone who makes over a quarter of
a million dollars a year. Their excuse is "This will help creat jobs."

I have news for them, the rich will likely buy real estate or some other
non job creating thing. The big corporations probably don't pay much
tax anyway, so the tax savings will likely go for bonuses to the CEO and
his people.

Who pays for this? The working poor and people with health problems.
Well you can be sure those rich people who support the GOP could care
less..

Also our friendly GOP is removing regulations on banks so they can
start gambling with the money the contro again. The very reguations
that were put in place the last time the banks lost giving out risky
loans. Then the tax payer had to bail them out. So thanks to the
GOP and Trump the tax payers will likely end up paying again.


I know I pick on the GOP alot, but the Democrats do bad thing too.
We need to study and check voting records of our congress. Watch
to see what the president does as well. If we the people sit back
and let others decide we may loose our rights to the those at the
top of society. Take the time to VOTE. It's the only way a democracy
will work for all.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 11, 2017, 12:50:49 pm
Trump Day 142
Trump needs to consider where we have military bases in the middle east
before he bad mouths the country our troops are based. Seems Trump is
backing the Saudi's. Is it due to promises he made.. The Saudi's gave a
Trump foundation 100 million. Odd he would accept it after making such a
big deal out of Clinton taking money from the Saudi's. I wonder what else
the Saudi government might have paid Trump to do?

Trumps tweets is where he gives his self most of his problems. He should
toss his phone in the trash compactor and forget it.

GOP
The GOP though troubled by Trumps actions and tweets, they still stand
up for him, and make excuses for him and those he has appointed. They
want to please all those lobbyists who promise them millions in re election
money. All they have to do is pass bills that support their interests.

The Democrats aren't totally innocent when it comes to letting big money
lead them around, but the GOP is running the government now. So it's
theirs to explain if things go bad.

The GOP is out to cut taxes for the richest 2 percent of americans. They
could care less if it hurts people. They claim they care, but their actions
show otherwise. They cut taxes in the mid 1980;s claiming it would make
the economy stronger. All it did was hurt the middle class and make the
rich a lot richer. Now they want to do it again.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 12, 2017, 03:44:47 pm
Trump Day 143
Our man Trump is still saying the ex FBI directory is
lying. Claims he has a recording of the meetings . Well
it's time Trump makes the recordings aviable or admit he
lied. No hope for that of course. Trump never admits he
ever makes a mistake.

Trump is being sued for taking money from forign governments
for his own business. Trump calls it politics, but it's a constitutional
issue  even he dosen't want to admit it.

The Russian investigation continues about Trump and his campaign.
Even the atterney general is to  appear before congress for his
involvement while working with Trump and his campaign.

GOP
Our friendly GOP is still trying to run interference to help Trump and
his people.  Like I said they appear to not care what Trump does as
long as they get to pass their agenda.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 13, 2017, 01:04:11 pm
Trump Day 144
Our man Trump is considering to fire the special prosecuter. If
he does it just adds another layer of suspicion on the Trump
administration.

Trump who said he never asks for loyalty had his cabinet
lay praise on him. Almost like he thinks he should be treated
like some kind of emperor over our country.

Trump lives for this kind of thing. Praise and cheering for
him. He may not visit England this fall because they might
not give him enough praise. Or boo him. He wouldn't be able
to make those who boo'd to leave like he does here.


GOP
Our friendly GOP continues to hide behind closed doors to
work on their version of the ACA replacemennt bill. I think
we can be sure it will be bad for millions of people or
they wouldln't be hiding the details.

The GOP leader of the senate has no shame. He refused to
have a vote for Obamas pick for the supreme court. Even
though it was obviously a political decision

It's rather interessting that the GOP praised the special
prosecuter when appointed. Now they are running him down.
Apparnetly because they think he is doing too good a job.
They are all but giving Trump the ok to to fire him.

I think the GOP feels even if they loose control of congress
in 2018 election. They feel with a GOP president still in office the
democrats can't undo their work. It taks a 2/3 vote to override
a veto, and they know it.

Some people call the GOP the business man's party. I often wonder
why the working people support it so. Most people in business are
good people, and are willing to give a helping hand to those in need.
But unfortuantly it seems the more successful people are they tend to
think anyone can be successful if they only work hard. Trouble is there
are many ways to fail. A bank won't approve a needed loan, a sickness
or an accident can destroy any chance to succeed. Hospital bills can easily
bankrupt the average family. This is why we as a society should work
together. Not to only think of ones self, but for the country and those
who live in it. This is why people are willing to die for their country, to
give us all a chance to live in freedom and happiness. That right should
include health as well.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 14, 2017, 12:52:02 pm
Trump Day 145
Our man Trump is calling the ACA replacement bill the house
passed Mean. Even though he praised the house for the same
bill a few weeks ago. Now he is saying the senate is making a
good plan. The word is the senate plan is moving to extend the
house plan so it will take longer to cut medicaid for the needy
at a later date. to make health costs for older people and those
with preexisting conditions outrageously high. This way they hope
the public will put them back in power in 2018. So by the time
their plan really hurts people it may be 2020 and too late to
put a democrat in the white house.

I wonder how many will suffer and die befor people wake up to what
the GOP has plans to do?  Sometimes I think we need more veterens in
government. At least they know what kind of  country they were willing to
die for. Now days it's mostly rich people, many of them have never known
what i's like to be hungry or cold with no place to go. They seem to think
anyone can make it with hard work, and some don't really care since they
made it on their own.

The presidents son apparently started a new fad today. he got off
the presidential helicopter wearing a gray shirt with the word
"Expert" across the front. I understand the web site selling them
sold out the same day. Kind of appears, like father like son. I 
don't think it was planned though.

The Atterney General testified at a hearing today. Rather made
excuses for not answering questions. One excuse was "Trump might
not want him to answer as he might decide to claim executive
privilege." There is no law that gives a president a future
chance to claim executive privilege after the fact. So the atterney
generals excuse was just that an excuse.

GOP
It seems the GOP really doesn't care if the Russians hacked
the election. Perhaps they think the Russians will work to
keep them and Trump in power. The GOP used to never trust
the Russians. So why change now?

The GOP claim they are all for private enterprise, and capitalizim,
but they support the drug industry which cares little for following
free enterprise. In fact they do all they can to eliminate competition.
People have little or no choice when buying medicine. No free
market to control prices. Yet the politicians especially the GOP
do little to regulate it. Without competition regulation is all
there is to keep prices under control. We in the USA pay more for
medicine than anyone else in the world. Why? Because they have
no limits on their prices. They have raised prices 11 percent
a year for the last two years alone. Inflation has been nearly
flat so there was no excuse other than greed to raise prices
that much.

It will only change if the people vote for politicians who
are willing to stand up against the greed of the drug
industry. If the people do the drug industry will do all
they can to stop price controls including lies and fear
tactics in advertising. They would claim it would be the
end of research for new drugs, but this would be a lie
as they have no plans to stop making drugs. Price controls
in other countries have had little if any affect on their
research.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 15, 2017, 12:32:49 pm
Trump Day 146
Our man Trump appears to be under investigation for obstructing
justice. Of course even if he is found guilty of it nothing will be
don unless the GOP is willing to hold Trump accountable.

If that happens people should replace those in Congress who don't
care about justice for all. Including the president.

That's up to the voters of course, and I hope they do the right thing.

GOP
Our friendly GOP was attacked by a lone gunman. Though I have little
respect for the GOP. Violence is absolutely the wrong thing for anyone
to do toward government officials. Or anyone except for defense.

The rule of law has to be obeyed or the country will fall into anarchy.
Those in the GOP should remember this as well. Covering Trump to
protect their agenda is breaking laws they expect the rest of us to
obey. Apparently thinking the ends justify the means.

When some people see the rule of law being ignored for the sake
of politics it can lead to a few taking the law into their own hands.
This like any act of vigilantism always leads to terrible events
that ignores the rights of others.

I think it's time congress takes a good look at them selves instead
of hiding behind locked  doors and bodyguards. They aren't totally
innocent as one new member physically attacked a member of
the press who was only asking a simple question. I wonder if
the congressman had had a gun would he have used it on the
reporter instead of his hands? I hope not, but with more people
being able to carry guns these days, who can say.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 16, 2017, 12:41:56 pm
Trump Day 147
Our man Trump apparently tweeted he was under investigation. So
it's he who leaked that bit of information. Seems the vice precident
found a high dollar lawyer to keep him out of trouble. There are
reports he is out raising money to pay what it costs to have a fancy
lawyer. It's a shame the rest of us can't do that when we need a good
lawyer.

Also I understand several of those in the white house have retained
lawyers. Trump ought to pay for them as he is likely at the root of
any troubles they may have. There were over 60 who were under
indictment that worked for Nixon. Several went to jail. So working
for a president who doesn't follow the constitution is risky business.

I understand the special prosecutors investigation is growing by the
day. I wonder if Trump can keep from firing him? He is bound to be
nervous. This guy can probably require Trump to give up his precious
tax returns too. If Trump is truly innocent of wrong doing he should
quit acting like he has something to hide.

Sometimes I wonder if the reason Trump doesn't talk is due to a habit
where in business one can't tell the public everything. I am sure Trump
has made huge profits that only his tax man knows about. It's likely
he has had some big losses too.  Trump needs to change his mindset as
president of the country he doesn't have to hide everything. It just makes
him appear suspicious of doing something wrong.

Trump did do something I commend him for. He closed down a committee
that was looking for a way to deal with data problems Y2K might cause.
One might think. Why have a committee working on a problem that ended
17 years ago?  Ask congress.... There are many useless committee's in
Washington that should be shut down. I am sure the reason they still exist
is to please powerful congressmen and senators. The old pay for play deal.

They probably told Trump he could shut this one down to help him politically.

GOP
Our friendly GOP lost to the Democrats in their charity basball game. It's
been a regular event since 1909. I understand this win gives the democrats
a one game lead over the years.

Even with calls of trying to work together the GOP controlled senate is still
playing hide and seek with their health bill. I imagine they make sure they
have very good health care when needed.

I kind of think all the talk about getting along and working to get along better
was just more politics for the folks back home.  They say "We are good friends
with congressman who ever." I would have to see it to believe it. If they were
truly that way they would be happy to do townhall meetings, and not hide from
their voters.

Those in congress should be talking to the voters not lobbyist  of big corporations.
Those lobbyists set up meetings at resorts around the world. It's no wonder
those in congress enjoy the perks that come with the job.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 17, 2017, 12:58:57 pm
Trump Day 148
Our man Trump made a few changes in our relationship with Cuba.
He tried to make it sound like he did a way with Obams deal, but
in reality there wasn't much of a change. People can still go to
Cuba to visit.  I have hear Trump would like to build one of his
hotels in Cupa. So he might be keeping the rules so he can.

The government of Cuba does bad things, but we are almost the
only country in the world that makes a big deal about Cuba activities.

If Cuba was litke North Korea I could understand it. Cubas government
tells it's people that the USA is bad. The more we can be involved in
Cuba's economy the harder it will be for their government to make
that case.

Trump continues to claim the economy is doing great, but many
people are loosing jobs. Lots of businesses closing. If the ACA
is removed it will cost a million jobs in health care. Those are
usually good paying jobs that could be lost.

The national debt continues to climb, even thought the GOP
congress and Trump want to cut taxes. Seems even though
the GOP complains more about debt the democrats have
a better record of controlling spending. The GOP claims they
want to cut government, but with their tax cuts the debt
continues to  climb.

GOP
Our friendly GOP  is investigating Trump and his people. But it seems
it's a bit half hearted though.  Each time the democrats want to
people to testify the GOP leadership stalls with excuses.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 18, 2017, 12:10:36 pm
Trump Day 149
Being the weekend there isn't much new to say about Trump. I did
hear a report he was saying the democrats should tone down their
complaints after the attack on the GOP.. What a hypocrite. After all the
inflamed hate speach he has spewed out  over the last 20 years.
Hate speech only creates more hate. Just like violence creates violence.

The senate did pass a bill to put more sanctions on Russia. Trump is
asking it to be moderated. Apparently Trump still doesn't want to
hold Russia accountable for their election hacking.

GOP
Our friendly GOP complains about voter fraud, and spends millions trying to
keep honest people from voting. They make the Russian hacking look like
childs play compared to the numbers of voters they have removed from
the roles. Why? Because they are likely to not vote for the GOP.

They use every trick legal or not to win elections. They know if they played
by the rules they would loose dozens of congressional seats across the
nation. Why? because they are a minority party. About 30% of the
population. The main thing that keeps them in power is they as a party
work harder to stay in power. The Democrats in many cases don't
get as excited about politics as those in the GOP.

I think this gets back to the GOP being the party of businessmen.
To be successful in business you have to be willing to work long
hours. These kind of people generally are better at winning
elections. After all they know how to sell ideas to the public. Just
as they would selling their wares in their business. I was in business
for over 30 years. So I can see our politicians being salesmen. Be it
something bad or good.

Trump is a master salesman. He knew from experience he could
appeal to a solid 30%. People who like an attack dog style of
of speaking. Not one that is politically correct. So he took a chance
and won. With the GOP's help of restricting votes, and Clintons
email baggage. Trump was the worst pick, but the recession had
hurt enough of the working poor, causing them to vote for someone
different. Hoping for a change that would benifit them.

We can only hope those dissatisfied with the GOP and Trump
will come out in huge numbers to vote. Otherwise I fear minorities
and the working poor will have years of hard times ahead.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 19, 2017, 12:21:25 pm
Trump Day 150
Our man Trump seems to be more interested in politics
than running the government. Many agencies are undermaned.
Trump is trying to blime the Democrats for this, but they have
not control over who he picks, and little ability to stop anyone
from being confermed. It's just another one of Trumps lies.

So fare nothing has been heard from Trump on how to stop
the Russians from affecting the election in 2018. He still acts
like it hasn't been proven they did affect his election. I think
it's because he hates the idea he didn't win wihtout help from
outsiede foreces.. Like I said in my pkrevious post the GOP
likely do more to corrupt the election process than what
the Russians did. Trump continues to talk about his election even
after almost 7 months. Trumps egomainia is one of his biggest
problem.

Trump lives for his money. He has made tens of millions since his
election. He as president is staying as his resorts, and other faciiities
where he cana send the bill to the government. This shows he cares
more about making money for his self than saving money for the
taxpayer.

I think this is why the investigations worry Trump so much. Who can
say where Trumps money will lead investigators. He continues to hide
his tax returns, but the special prosecute can and may look at those
returns even if Trump doesn't like it.

Trump calls the press names, but this is just his way to discrediting
their reporting. He doesn't want those who voted for him to think
he is the con artist he really is. It's interesting how he brags on
news reports that make him look good, and calls other reports fake.

Trump still claims the wants to replace the ACA with a good health
bill. He calls the bill the Senate is working that good bill. Time will
tell. He claims the Democrats are blocking his tax cuts, but he fails
tomention the cuts for the richest people in the country. He doesn't
talk about how his budget will hurt the, elderly, poor, and the sick.
Even though in his campaign he promised to help protect them same
people.

GOP
Our friendly GOP wants to pass the their draconian health bill before
their next break. The leader of the senate doesn't want to wait till
afterwords because he knows they will be called on the carpet for
their deeds. The GOP leadership and Trump want to get rid of the
so they can cuts taxes for the rich. Even if it causes death and suffering.
People Trump likely considers as loosers. I heard a member of the GOP
say "Why pay to save people that are going to die anyway." It's not a
quote, but close to it.

Dem
The democrats are doing all they can to slow down the senates work
because of the GOP's dirty tricks. They want to spotlight the acts of
the GOP. They keep saying the ACA is bad, and insurance companies
are leaving because of they don't know what will happen. Not because
they don't like the plan. If the GOP would work with the Democrats to
fix the ACA the costs would likely drop.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 20, 2017, 11:41:16 am
Trump Day 151
Our man Trump and those working in the white house are hiring
lawyers. Some like Trump are hiring more than one.

The young man who was held in N Korea died after he was returned
to the US. He should have been returned when he became sick.

Trump has called for other americans to be released at once. I doubt
short of war anything could be done. Perhaps Trump should ask Putin
for help. Russia has been an ally of N Korea since wwII. Trump is still
asking China for help.


GOP
Our friendly GOP spent millions trying to keep the house seat from
Georgia. I think the money would have been better spent helping
the disadvantaged. One member of congress is not worth the price.

I think they fear if this seat is lost to the democrats there will be a
mass defection by the GOP membership. Fearing they too will need
a new job after the next election.

The founders did a fine job writing the constitution, but I have a hunch
they would make a few changes if they could have seen the future. I
I think giving the majority total control of committees is a bad idea. It
should be co chaired to keep the majority from running roughshod over
the minority. I think single party control is bad government. I know
sometimes it's a quicker way to pass legislation, but not always a fair
way.

The GOP complained up one side and down the other when they weren't in
power. They made claims of how unfair the democrats were. Now they are
not only doing the same thing they fussed about, but worse. The democrats
had hearings on legislation. Allowed amendments by the GOP.. But the GOP
isn't allowing any of this. Like bullies on a playground, they should be
ashamed.

Only time will tell if the public votes them out. Even then they will likely
work to help the rich with claims they are just wanting to create jobs, but
they usually end up getting rid of good paying jobs to save their rich friends
extra expense. I think they would do away with the minimum wage if they
thought they could get by with it. We know they sure don't want to raise it.

The GOP and Trump both say they are only doing what they were elected
to do. That's fine to  say, but they should follow the wishes of the majority
of the people, not the majority of their party. Especially when it affects
us all.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 21, 2017, 01:42:23 pm
Trump Day 152
Our man Trump continues to complain that the investigations
are interfering with his agenda. Well he could put an end ot it
by being open. Releasing his taxes, and any other info. But
no he hides everything of record.

Trump is having a ralley in Iwoa, I guess Trump needed a pick me
up with the cheers of a big crowd of supporters.  He should be doing
his job instead. There are many agency jobs needing filled.  Trump
just tweets, complains, and plays Golf. More than anything else.

GOP
Well as I expected the GOP canidate won in Georgia yesterday. The
did show a tighter than normal race though. So the GOP election did
show they are going to have a tough time holding on to their seats
in 2018. One senator tried to say sure other contries have free health
but no food. This is misleading. Health care via the government is paid
with Taxes. Why not pay for the health coverage with a tax instead of
paying out thousands for insurance you will loose the first month you
miss a premium payment. With the government coverage you only
loose coverage if you give up your citizenship.

Not because you loose your job, or get too sick.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 22, 2017, 12:18:02 pm
Trump Day 153
Our man Trump said the democrats wouldn't support any health
bill no matter how good it was. This of course is ridiculous. The
GOP claims all the democrats want is socialized medicine., I think
most would rather have that than nothing  they can afford. Medicare
has been around for 50 years with few complaints. In fact the VA has
worse record help veterans with their health that Medicare has, so why
not have Medicare for all. Let people buy supplemental if they want fancy
health care.

The GOP claims the ACA is collapsing. What they don't say iss due to
the fact the insurance industry feels the GOP will make changes and
they don't want to be caught in the lurch.

This business with killing the ACA is mostly about money for the rich.
Lobbyists for the insurance, and health industry has spent almost 80
million in thefirst quarter of this year. The leadership won't talk to leaders
of health care for heart disease, cancer, diabetes, ect, but does talk to
the big money people in the health industry.

The problem I have always seen is healthy people only worry about health
care. Young people who are healthy feel they won't get sick. So it's hard to
convince people they really need good coverage. Instead they buy a cheap
plan that promises everything, but pays little in the fine print. This is what
ACA did. It got rid of these cheap do nothing plans. If the ACA goes those
plans will come right back. Leaving a lot of people bankrupt, and hospitals
in small towns going broke and closing.

The GOP leaders are having people in wheelchairs carried out of the
Capital building because they were in the way. It shows just how little
the GOP cares for the disadvantaged.

I think they should take the GOP to several nursing homes and explain
to those under care why they can't pay for the care they need. Sometimes
seeing the need has much more effect that looking at numbers on a page.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on June 22, 2017, 01:11:27 pm
It would be nice, OR, if you would put links in your posts to further news stories. ;)

Further reading about the health care bill being proposed today:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/senate-health-care-bill/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/republican-health-care-bill-text/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/21/politics/health-care-senate-in-and-out/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/21/news/economy/medicaid-expansion-gop/index.html?iid=hp-toplead-dom&sr=fbCNN062217medicaid-expansion-gop0203PMVODtopLink&linkId=38972075


Trump may win in 2020.  >:(
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/21/politics/david-gergen-donald-trump-victory-lap-rally-erin-burnett-outfront-cnntv/index.html

Trump doesn't want "poor people".  >:(
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/06/22/donald-trump-iowa-rally-poor-people-sot.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 23, 2017, 12:59:42 pm
I would like to post links Kobuk, but my vision gets fuzzy if I read very
much. So I refer people to www.msnbc.com   I know some may feel the
major media is out to get Trump, but they interview both parties. The GOP
members shy away from them. I think they don't want to answer the
questions that tend to embarrass members of the GOP. Trump doesn't
talk to the press that much as he usually puts his foot in his mouth. He
talks on Fox News, but i have a hunch it's pre scripted. Msnbc idoes
favor the democrats, but mainly because the GOP steps on minorities,
women, and the handicapped. I am sure some GOP members feel they
are working to make a stronger economy. If socialized medicine is so
bad for a country then how to Canada, the UK and others survived with
it? They have even claimed our taxes are higher than these other countries.
If that's the case we should easily be able to have it.

I think it all boils down to big business, and their greed. Socialized medicine
would cut into their huge profits. Especially those of insurance and  the
pharmaceutical industry.. For over 150 years this country has been a
Bastion for big business and the very rich. They will fight tooth and nail
to keep it that way. It's they who sent us into Korea, viet nam, and Iraq.
Why because of money they might loose if we didn't. Viet Nam was
thought to have vast oil reserves.  Korea was to stop communism whice
they feared would destroy capitalism. Iraq and the middle eas  has always
been about oil. and stilli is. Unless the people vote to change it, It will
continue. They know how to convince the majority of the people to
follow thier lies.

IBack to the links. I would appreciate it if you posted links now and
here



Trump Day 154.
Our man Trump is saying he is for the Senate bill. I doubt if he has even
read it. Probably listens to Bannon instead.  Trump claimed he wanted
to protect  social programs, but now he appears to have flipped on that
promise.  I wonder how his supporters who depend on those programs
will feel when they get a letter saying their benifits have been discontinued
due to legislation.

Trump has made almost 200 million dollars for his buisnesses  by using
his office of president. When he travels he goes to his resorts, and golf
courses. They bill the governlmlent for the costs. You can be sure Trump
doesn't give the Government a break on prices.  He should use other
locations to help others in business.

Trump is signing a bill that's supposed to make the VA more efficent.  I
will be suprised it it changed much of anything for the veterans . Only
time will tell. It's likely the changes Obama made that will help the most.

Trump claimes he is for our troops, but then he cuts the state department
to the bone. The one agency that works to prevent wars and other actions
that put our troops iln danger. Trump might be a bood business man, but a
poor leader for our country.

Trump mentioned the people that helped bring veterans to Washington DC
to see the war memorials.  He bragged about how good it was.  He didn't
mention if he had helped any veterans so they could see the memorials.  I
mean he has a big plane he could use. No one asked, but I bet he would
have frowned if they had.

GOP
Will the house of representatives vote to approve the senate health bill? If
they do it could become law by the first of July. We need to nag our
congressmen letting them know how we feel about it.  3 GOP votes could
stop it cold.

It should take 60 votes for any major legislation. No matter which party
has a majority in the senate.  Simple majority votes should not apply
to tax changes, or other legislation that affects the majority of the
country.

I have seen law makers change the rules  in the past so they
could get tax increases with a simple majority. When it was supposed
to be a 2/3 vote.  If a tax increase is needed. Make the casse instead.
of changing the rules. Changing rules to get ones way is childish, a easy
to force their ideas that are often poor on everyone. Super majorities were
made to protect us from quick fixes that are often end up bad.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 24, 2017, 12:47:34 pm
Trump Day 155
Trump man continues his lies. When at his ralley in Iowa he
said housing starts were higher since he was elected. Well
the facts show even in Iowa housing starts are down over
the last eight months. He isn't helping housing starts at all.
As usual his supporters eat up everything he says. Perhaps
when their Trump balloon bursts they will see the  light.

Our man Trump supports getting tougher on crime. Now at
first look that sound good, but crime isn't going up accross
the country. Except in a few cities. Those activities art tied
to drugs any more than any where else. The Atterney General
apparntly feels building more prisons will solve the crime
problem. We need to fix the reason for crime. This country
has the larges prison population in the world. So we must
be doing something wrong.

Even conservative judges complain they are forced to give
stiff prison sentances when it isn't warrentd. Obama was trying
to move the country toward a softer approch, but Trump is trying
to say a non exsistant increase in crime is the falut of Obama.

The GOP complains the government is too big, but they support
tossing people in prisons. I have heard it can cost over 50,000
a year to keep one person in jail. That would go a long way in
paying  to educate people so they can live without resorting to
 Gcriminal activity. Sure some will never learn, and some might find
prison a good way to live, but if we don't work to help rather than
hurt we will be spending more an moe on prisons.

The GOP leadership and Trump apparently are going to have to
twist a few arms to get enough votes to pass their draconican
health bill.  Seems if they make it softer the conservatives won't
vote, and if they make it tougher the moderats won't vote for it.
So the GOP leaders are tweaking and fussing. Not counting
threats to members who won't vote for it. I heard a report
a pack is threatening to spend over a million dollars to defeate
a senator if he didn't vot for it. These PAC's should be illeagle.
they can spend millions  to put people in office where individuyals
can't. I think people should only be able to give a politician no
more than a poor person could.

If Trump care is passed. There will be a lot of people with cheap
insurance that leaves them unconvered when they need it. It's
just human nature to want to save money. The ACA forced the
iusurance companies to sell good health insuracan. Of course
good insurance costs more when it pays the bills.

In the past I can remember guys coming around selling
insurance that only paid for the hospital room. So one
would be on hook for the nursing and all other costs.
At the time if you were healthy a good major medical plan
wasn't too pricey, if you had a health problem forget it. but
the cheap plans were very cheap, and a lot of people ended
up bankrupt depending on them. If the GOP have their way
it will happen again.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 25, 2017, 12:54:59 pm
Trump Day 156
Our man Trumps blame game is causing a lot of unrest in the country.
There are a lot of people who feel threatened by foreigners, or anyone
who is or looks different. These people look up to Trump partly because
he says things they want to believe. I doubt if Trump stops his blame
game because he would loose a lot of support from those who voted for
him. Trump may not know how to run a country, but he does know how
to manipulate people.

I fear minorities, women, LGBT, and the hadicapped are going to have
it tough for a few years. I just hope it doesn't lead to violence accross
the country.  Though already some people are causing harm to those
Trump is laying blame on.

A lot of people are closet racists, biggots, and all around haters. Some
use the excuse they are protecting family and jobs. Trouble is its mostly
due to ignorance of the facts. Trumps supporters watch the far right on
tv, and listen to the same on talk radio. They should take the time to
listen to a more balanced reporting before deciding who is right and
wrong. Or who is costing jobs, making jobs. If they don't they are going
to be loosers in the end. We could all loose in the end as well.

I heard something that suprised me a bit. Turns out in France people have
a right to health care at practically no cost. Working people pay little in
income tax.  One might think how could that work? Turns out they do tax
the very rich. People with incomes of over a half million a year pay enough
in taxes to run the country.  Our GOP friends would claim this would
ruin the economy, but France has a strong economy. I am sure people pay
more for some things, but if a country like France can make it work there
is no reason we can't. It's corporate greed that stands in the way..

Those in the GOP claims people in countrys with socialized medicine have
to get in line to get health care. This is true in some cases, but usually
only for care that can wait, More people die due to lack of care in the USA
than they do in countrys with socialized medicine. This is something the
GOP doesn't want to talk about.

The GOP wants to keep health care in the market place to control prices.
This only works if you insure healthy people. The market place will not
work for people with exsisting health problems. The only realistic way
to handle health care is to have everyone pay for health care via the
government  Otherwise many won't be able to afford to get health care
at all. Premiums for hi risk people will be more than their total income.
The GOP say they will help pay this, but not untill they are are destitute
if at all.

The GOP has played politics with the ACA since Obama first introduced it.
They should be a shamed as this plan was a GOP plan to begin with.
Now they want to get rid of it co they can cut taxes for the very rich.
Trump would  get a 7 million dollar cut in his taxes alone.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 26, 2017, 12:49:18 pm
Trump Day 157
Our man Trump had some good news today. The supreme court
allowed part of his travel ban to be put into effect. Only people
who have relatives, job or going to school can travel from the
banned countries to the USA.

This is a temporary decision as they will take up arguments this
fall. Personally I think the supreme court is playing politics as the
travel ban was only good for 90 days. That alone should have caused
the supreme court to not even look at the case. I think it's just to
help Trump more than doing their job. The deciding vote was by the judge
Trump picked. Looks political to me.

Now Trump is claiming the supreme court is saying the lower court
stays were wrong. This is misleading. The court has only allowed
a small part of the travel ban to work. The court will decide who is right
or wrong this fall.

Also the supreme court decided a religious school in Missouri should
get public funds for recovering a playground. If so shouldn't the church
school pay taxes too? This is a dangerous decision as it weakens the
separation between church and state.

Over the years some judges have let personal beliefs color their
decisions. Granted they are only human, but if the senate did their
job properly they would investigate each appointment to learn their
personal records and previous decisions that affect people. Some
say they are supposed to make decisions based on the constitution.
Sometimes decisions have to be based on cultural changes, but
careful not to make laws. Congress is supposed to make adjustments
to laws they pass, not the court. The GOP wants the court to make
decisions that are politically unpopular so they won't get the  blame.

Above all the senate should try to put party neutral people on the
court. Instead over the years both of the major parties have been guilty
of playing politics with the supreme court. If a judge was found
to pull the court left or right. Then the next appointment should be
someone who would likely return it to a neutral position. It's doubtful
a president or the senate will ever work this way as human nature is
always selfish.

GOP
They are still trying to get enough senators to pass their version of
Trump care. It would be nice if they would just pass Medicare for all.
then let people buy supplements for extra care. I have to pay almost
$300 a month for health insurance with Medicare. They have advantage
plans which are less costly, but if you go to the wrong hospital or doctor
you get to pay instead.

The GOP is more interested in saving money for businesses and their
owners than anything else. They promise jobs, and tax cuts, but not
good jobs, and the tax cuts are mostly for the rich. If they had their way
there wouldn't be any unions or any costly health regulations to protect
workers. They would sell the national parks if they could get by with it.
I find it odd how they can stay in power. You would think the public
would notice how the GOP leadership treats the average person.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 27, 2017, 01:11:30 pm
Trump Day 158
Our man Trump sent out a report thata Syeria was about to kill more people
with gas, and he Trump would likely see they paid for it.. I am thinking
Trump made this report trying to devert attention from the health bill in
the senate. I could be wrong, but Trump is capable of about anything if
he wants something bad enough.

Other than that Trumps son n law hired another lawyer. Apparently
he feels he might need legal help. Only thing just because a lawyer charges
a big fee doesn't mean he can get a guilty person out of serious trouble.

Trump and the GOP leadership is twisting arms trying to get the votes needed
to pass the senate health bill. The senate leader is afraid if they don't pass it
now the public will convince a senator or two to vote no.  He and Trump both
should be ashamed trying to rush this bill which could cost millions their
health care, and raise insurance rates for millions more. Not counting those
with health issues will see rates sky rocket. The GOP say they have subsities
to help, but not enough for the working poor.

If they pass it, I think it's only the beginning. They will go after other social
programs next. Medicaid,  Medicare, and social security. The GOP wants to
privatize it all..  History has shown it won't work, people will put off saving
for retirment, put of buying insurance. Then when they loose their job they
are standing in the streets begging. This will lead to more crime, and family
violence.  Free market works fine for many things, but sometimes we have
to help people help themselves.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 28, 2017, 12:03:26 pm
Trump Day 159
Our man Trump had a meeting at the white hous with the GOP members
of the senate. It appeared Trump had them there to discuss the
health bil, but he seemed to have problems keeping on the subject
at hand. Trump should learn more about a bill if he wants to convince
people to vote for it.

Trump continues to call the main media fake news. Sometimes I think he
thinks acting like Russias Putin is a good idea.Trump seems to think all very
rich men are smart even if they steal the money like Putin has. This is how
all authoritarian leaders do. They tell the people what to believe, and not to
believe any one else. Trump has a lot of people who think he is smart enough
to make their lives better, Trump will continue to blame everyone one but his
self for our problems. Hopefully those supporters will see Trump for what he
really is. He only wants people to think he is a Great leader, and if he
fails it will be the opposition at fault.

The GOP leadership gave up on the vote for the health bil, but it's just
a temporary stay. They will be back at it in a couple weeks. So thoose
who want good health care best keep the pressure on, because the GOP
plan will hurt the working poor with a hand out to the rich.


GOP
Our friendly GOP continue to say the ACA is failing, but it's the
uncertainty of what will happen that is driving the insurance companies
away. They want to know the rules before they play the game.

It's true several states never set up the medicaid expansion,, so it is
possible more people might have insurance with the new plan in those
states. The problem is over all the GOP wants to cut medicade and put
limits on the money states can have for medicaid.

The GOP keeps claiming they need to cut taxes to improve the economy.
Cutting services like medicaid removes Billions of dollars from the economy.
Cutting taxes for rich fat cats doesn't put money in to the conomey. They
invest in real estate for the most part due to  tax benifits. That's why
Trump likes dealing in real estate. It doesn't make all that many good jobs
though.

The GOP continues to claim free enterprise is the best way. People should
buy insurance to fit their needs. This is fine for healthy people if they are
in a group plan. Individuals trying to buy insurance pay through the nose
for insurance that gives good coverage. Insurance companies are out to
make all the money they can. Only when hundreds of people or more get
together do the companies offer plans at a better price. This is why the
government should be able to get the lowest possible price.. That is till
a lobbyist comes along crying the blues, and offering money to congress
to get a better deal for the insurance company they work for. This is why
people need to get out and vote. Kick out those in congress who turn
against the people for their own profit.

This is one reason many people feel they have good coverage. They work
for a big business who have good health coverage that comes with the
job. This is fine, but if they loose their job they loose the health coverage.
This is when they find out what it's like to owe thousands for some small
health problem, and end up loosing their credit rating, and in many cases
going bankrupt. It's a shame so many people ignore this till it hits them
personally. Since the ACA started almost 50% fewer people have gone
bankrupt. The ACA needs to be fixed. When Obama worked to get it
passed the GOP made a lot of amendments to weaken the plan. I think
they did this to help the big insurance compainies make more money
and change the ACA so the public wouldn't like it.

The GOP is out to help big business even if it hurts the little guy.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 29, 2017, 12:03:21 pm
Trump day 160
Trump continues to claim the press is feeding fake news to the public
because they want him to look bad. I really doubt those in the media
would or could stick togather well enough to not expose others in the
press of lying.

Each time Trump makes a speech he never gives details. He just says
something he likes is very good, or great for the people, and
many other terms of embelishment. When he talked in his campaign he
said he was going to get smart people, but never said who they were.
It's time Trump started telling us how he plans to do things, and
not just say how good it is, or how bad it is.

Trump has run his business by bluster and embelishment for years,
and is likely not to change.

Is Trump worried about not creating enough jobs? He is picking on
Amazon, saying it's killing jobs in department stores. Amazon is
opening brick and morter stores in case Trump doesn't know. It's
buying by computer that is hurting department stores. Even walmart
is getting into it. Also he promised to Carrier workers more jobs,
but it was a lie as 550 people are loosingt their jobs anyway. I
believe those jobs are moving to Mexico. I wonder what Trump has
to say now?

The EPA under Trump is firing scientists that won't lie or not talk
about the dangers of pesticide and other hazards. Apparently the new
EPA is siding with big business to let them sell chemicals that could
cause cancer.

GOP
The GOP is pushing for harsher laws against immigrants. As if
they are the only people who put the public at risk. Typical
conservative way of thinking. Getting tough has failed in the
past. It sounds good, but when people are treated like dirt you
can't expect them to be good citizens. They point to violence as
an excuse to be tougher. We need to work on the why people do
crime, not just toss people in jail. You never hear the GOP talk
about how many people are already in prison. The USA has the
largest prison population in the world. I think it's mostly due to the
GOP's war on drugs. Instead of putting users in jail they should work
to get them off drugs, Other countries have had success with this. So
we can too. 

The GOP is still trying to protect Trump. Even trying to discredit
the FBI investigation of Trumps administration and Russia. Not
counting about Trumps obstruction of justise. It would appear to me
the GOP is obstructing justice as well. Unfortunately only the Voters
can punish those in congress for their bad deeds.

I think it's discusting how the GOP has had handicapped people arested
for demonstrating in the halls of congress. Are they so afraid of
people in wheelchairs they don't want to walk past them? Is there
no shame in their hearts at all?  I am beginning to think not.

The Trump care bill was planned out by lobbyists and leaders of big
business. They want the bill to help their rich friends. Those rich
fat cats who pay for their re election.

The senate leader kept the Trump care bill out of the finance committee
because it would have failed there. The GOP senate leader has been
avoiding the rules trying to win for the GOP and Trump. It is sad how
the GOP is treating our constitution. Just to please Trump and cut taxes
for the rich.

I say they should at least change the eligibility age for medicare form 65
to 50. That's the age most people start getting sick and if they don't it's
usually 60 or  past 65. That would solve some of the problems. The GOP
leadership hates programs that give money to the poor. They tried to undo
social security for years after it was passed. The same with Medicare. I
have seen them stand up and call the poor lazy bums over the years, and
they still do. If they were as religious as they claim to be they should
want to help the poor and disadvantaged.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 30, 2017, 11:52:51 am
Trump day 161
Our man Trump again makes our country look bad with his discusting
tweets. He seems to not realize that his actions reflect how others
see our country. His supporters should be ashamed of his tweets where
he calls people names, and belittles women. I can understand why people
didn't want to vote for Clinton, but this is different, this is a matter
of pride for our country. People died to keep us free, not to help a man
use the white house to make millions for his self.

Trump said he would make America great again. Well it's been almost six
months and he has done little except talk about his self and making
money using the office of president. Sometimes he acts more like a kid
pretending to be president. Or a kid that has been given a toy store. It has
been reported he shouts at tv screens. This reminds me of some guy sitting
at home on his couch half drunk, and mad because his wife won't get him
another beer. I almost feel sorry for those working for and around him.

Trump is in the process of ruining the state departemnt.The one agency that
does more to keep us out of war than then any other part of government.
 This agency deals with people traveling to and from our country. A matter
of security Trump claims to worry about. Yet he is dismantling it. So who
is going to keep track of visa's and legal immigration.

There is a report that the Trump campaign may have tried to get the lost
Clinton emails from Russian hackers. If this can be proved it may show
callusion with the Russians. Even dealing with hackers is against the law.

Trump is planning a one on one private meeting with Russia's Putin. A man
who likely understands Trump better than Trump his self. He will play Trump
like a harp. We can only hope that Trump doesn't do something dumb. I kind
of think Trump feels if he is nice Putin will be nice in return. Well I
think Putin like the GOP has an agenda, and will get all he can out of Trump.
perhaps even leaving Trump thinking he made a good deal.

GOP
The GOP said the tweets by Trump didn't help the process, but later they
only wanted to talk about the health bill. When it comes to Trump the
GOP membership acts like cowards, and should stand up for what is
right instead. History will likely paint the GOP in a very bad light
when writing about this period.

The GOP decided to go home a day early. Now they can hide from thei
voters over the 4th of july recess. This might be hard as the holiday
is a patriotic one so if the elected officials stay away it will really
make them look bad.

We as the voting public should hold our elected officals accountable
even if they don't want to them selves. If we don't they can get by with
anything they want. A democracy will fail if we sit back and let them
lead us around by the nose. It is a mistake to give one party total
control of the government. We need at least two party control because
one will likely try to push their ideas on us all.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 01, 2017, 11:36:55 am
Trump day 162
Our man Trump is still claiming millions of people committed voter fraud.
This is rediculous and unproven. It's hard enough to get people to vote
much less vote more than once. Trump is working with the GOP to limit
voting. This will lead to voter supression across the country. All some
state has to do is prosicute an individual for trying to vote more than
once, and it will keep many people away from the polls. There is no
punishment for prosicuting someone without evidence. Except to lose
their office.

The GOP has been trying to suppress voting for years by people they
know usually vote for democrats. Now with Trump to push it they may
succeed in making it even harder to vote when voting should be incuraged
not supressed. A commission Trump started has asked states to release
voter rolls showing what party people voted for, and military status,
last four digits of their social security number. Their address.  So
far the states have refused stating in most cases state laws prevent
this. With the GOP controlling most state governments, how long will it
be before they turn over this information to the federal governmlent for
who knows what purpose.

You can Thank Trump and the GOP for this invasion of your voting
privacy. Trump wants to run in 2020, and will do what ever it
takes to win.

Now Trump is pushing to repeal the ACA without a replacement. This
will affect over 30 million if it's done. Seems Trump thinks he
can do anything without his base complaining. Or the GOP for that
matter. If this doesn't bust Trumps bubble I doubt if anything
will. I understand his support is already slipping.

GOP
If the GOP takes health care from enough people it is going to
cause a lot of public dispair. If people are hurt bad enough
they may eventually do more than complain. I hope not, but the
1960's showed just how violent people can get if the government
treats people bad enough. Trump has people stirred up already
so I am afraid we may be reaching a flash point soon. Especially
how the GOP congressional members appear to not care how much
people are hurt by their agenda.

The GOP keeps saying get rid of the ACA because the free market is
the best way to sell insurance at a lower price.. Well how come there
was so many people uninsured before the ACA when insurance was
in the free market? I kind of think if they get rid of the ACA and 30
million are removed from insurance the prices will shoot even higher.
Because it's all about numbers. It takes more money to cover a few
and less to cover a lot. That's one reason group plans are cheaper.

Without the ACA people can have insurance that may costs less , but
when you need it will want a huge deductible before it pays. Even
then it may have limits for this and that. Left to their own devices
the insurance companies will take advantage everywhere they can
So you  best read the fine print with a magnifying glass.

Neither thee GOP or Trump one is working to stop Russian hacking for
the next election. Other countries are so there is plenty of ideas to
help prevent it. Makes me wonder if the GOP feels the Russians will
help them again in 2018.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 02, 2017, 12:55:13 pm
Trump Day 163
Our man Trump was out preaching to the choir last night. Now it
good to give our troops the recognition they deserve, but I got
the feeling he was using them. Politicians have done this in the
past, but Trump really gives one the feeling of being used. It's
easy to get cheers in a auditorium full of supporters.

He never wants to talk to people who don't support him. During his
campaign he would have opponets kicked out. Even for holding
up a sign that he didn't agree with. Claiming it was a  private supporters
only meeting.

A true elected leader of the country should want to hear from those
who oppose them. Otherwise how do they learn? Certainly not by only
listening to the Amen crowd.

Trump continues to lie about the press, even to individuals in the press.
It's the press that keeps government open. Other wise our politicians
could do terrible things to many people. It's this alone that shows Trump
to be a very bad greedy person.

GOP
I was listening to a person on msnbc's show "AM Joy". Theree was an
opinon about why the USA hasn't had Universal health care. while
many other countries do. Our country has a history of racism, anti-
immigration, homosexuals, and yes even hatred of women. So anytime
universal health care is brought up those in the GOP know it will cover
the very people they don't like, and in some cases hate.

Of course the GOP uses every other excuse from free market to raising
taxes to not support it. Now I am not saying ever person who is a member
of the GOP is the same. Many people in the party are good caring people,
but there is enough who don't, or see the poor as lazy to stop any progress
toward Universal health care.

The GOP has an agenda of getting rid of abortion, welfare at the federal level
at least, and slowing immigration. In moderation these things do need to be
looked at, but the far right GOP has become radical about it.

Much of this agenda is driven by a few rich people who spend literally millions
to support and elect GOP people to congress. They reach out to the closet haters
of minorities, LGBT, and non christian religous groups to get their votes. In
reality they don't care about the average working person. They like Trump are
just wanting to use them to help them and their friends to get richer, and to
have the little guy fight and die in wars to protect their riches.

This all paints rich people in a very bad light, but think about it. If you had millions
it's likely you will do most anything to keep it. It's been shown that money is like
an narcotic in that it causes people to want more and more. Why else would a
person with billions want more? I mean they could support hundreds of people
for entire lifetimes. Also rich people like the rest of us often get the idea they
know what's best for the rest of us. The problem is they have enough money
to do things, good or bad.

Fortunately there are many rich people who want to help people, and it's they who
give the rest of us a chance to vote for good people in government. If we don't we
will be at the mercy of the greedy rich.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 02, 2017, 08:34:57 pm
@cause the rat:  How many days did you say till Trump was impeached? 180? 190? We're already a little over 160. You might have to revise your figure.  ;)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 03, 2017, 01:11:51 pm
Trump Day 164
Our man Trump made an offer to a family in England to pay for experiental
care for their very sick baby. Now if Trump was for the support of medicaid
that is largely used to pay for the care of children, I might say that was
good of him. But he is not. So to me this looks like a political ploy trying to
make his self look good. I am sure his supports will hail him because he in
their eyes can do no wrong. But I see his talk of helping kids is limited to
improve his standing in the polls and nothing more. One of his by lines is
"I am President and your not." What a childish claim. Could it be he
thinks most people are so dumb he has to dumb down his comments? It
looks that way sometimes when he never goes into detail on anything
important.

Trump claims his tweets are his way of speaking to the people. If that's the
case he is just making his self look bad with each wierd or discusting tweet.
I heard a report that Trump tweets from the bathroom. With all the weird
tweets he made over the weekend perhaps he was constipated. . Just a
guess on my part.

Trump goes to the G20 meeting this week. I am sure he upon return
will claim he made great deals for the US. The people he w ill be metting
with are not supporters of Trump and his ideas. So he is likely to have
a tough time. I am sure he will blame everyone but his self  for any
problem.

If Trump would stand up and say why he supports this or that. Go through
the basic details he would get more respect. Instead he just talks about
how great he is and how good his ideas are for the people. If he was a
democrat the GOP would be all over the news finding fault with him, but
the cowards just stand around making meek comments if at all.

Trump seems to be afraid to have a news conference like other
presidents had. Instead he has his press secretary try to  explain
his tweets and lies. It's no wonder he has so much trouble getting
good people to take government jobs under his control.

GOP
The leader of the senate is saying he is still working on Trump care.
So they can get a jump start when they return to Washington DC. The
GOP is fretting because after almost 6 months they haven't accomplsied
anything of great substance.

The GOP has complained in the past about the democrats pushing bills
through congress. Then they turn around and try to do the very same
thing, only worse. The democrats allowed the GOP to make amendments.,
but the GOP has not. The democrats had committee meetings about their
bills. The GOP has not. Instead they blame the democrats for their problems. Sometimes ihink kids could do a better job of passing legislation

I could be wrong, but I think term limits would be a good way to stop people
from being career politicians. I know it would cost us good people, but overall
it would make it harder for lobbyists to buy congress. Also there should be
limits on how much each individual, and only individuals can give to any
elected offical. It should be according to how much the working poor can
afford. The way it is millionaires can give huge sums to help a political
party. Or none of these high priced meetings where people pay thousands
to be with a candidate or politician. If a canidate can't get enough people
talked into supporting them, they should go home.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 04, 2017, 12:11:42 pm
Trump Day 165
Apparently N Korea launched a missile that might could reach Alaska,
or perhaps the US lower 48 in a year or two. Our military doesn't know
if N Korea has the tech to keep a war head survivable after such a flight.
Or small enough to ride such a missile.

I fear Trump hasn't the good sense to not let this descend  into war.
Even if we can stop any and all of their misses they will likely turn
S Korea into ruin. Japan may even be hit by N Korea as well.

The new leader of S Korea wants to make a deal with N Korea. This
is very unlikely to lead anywhere as the leader of N Korea wants all
of Korea under his thumb. He want's to be a big shot in the world as
well. It's likely he will continue to build nukes and missiles, and likely
plans to sell them in the future. I understand N Korea is a big weapons
dealer including short range missiles right now.

Trumps trade ideas and moving away from  the climate control agreement
has made Russia, Saudi Arabia, and China stronger economically. Russia and
the Arab states want the price of oil to go up. It's the high price of crude oil
that keeps these countries from going broke, and their leaders rich.

Trump is good at selling real estate, but he  is not a good leader, or understands
how to keep peace in the world. Bombs won't do it. It takes a lot of negotiation
between world leaders. Each one has their own agenda. So a balance has to be
made, and in some cases agree to disagree. Otherwise the world will descend
into war time and time again. All you have to do is look at history to prove it.

In some cases war is the only option, but to survive the people of this world have
to work out a way to live together.

GOP
I am sure our GOP members are out today making speeches, and riding in parades.
All those things politicians do. It's what they do when they get back to Washington DC
that counts. If we don't keep the pressure on them they will ignore the wishes of the
people to pass the agenda of the GOP.

The Conservative crowd in the senate are pushing an amendment that would allow
people to buy what I would call fake insurance via the ACA. This goes against the i
dea of the ACA to make sure people have the coverage they need. It doesn't help to
have insurance that doesn't pay much when you get sick or hurt.


Happy 4th of July to all US Americans. Hopefully we will see many more with life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness intact.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 05, 2017, 01:10:49 pm
Trump Day 166
Our man Trump is heading for the G20. Tri,[ os trying to pressure
China to stop N Korea with the nukes and long rang missile work. It's
likely too late to do much short of war with N Korea. This isn't Trump's
fault as much as it's been side stepped since the end of the Korean war.

I hope Trump doesn't mess up with the N Korean issue. He is making
noise like he is getting impatient with China over the deal. There is no
good way to use war against N Korea so we should use deterrents that
will encourage the leader to back off.  Just hope the N Korean leader
doesn't have a death wish.

GOP
Our GOP crowd is out hiding or in some cases trying to convince voters
they know what they are doing.  Time will tell.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 06, 2017, 12:12:14 pm
Trump Day 167
Our man Trump is in Europe for the G20 meeting. I imagine Trump
will come back bragging that he did great for the country. I
have yet to hear Trump ever admit making a mistake. No one is
perfect even when they do their best. We all make mistakes.
Usually people respect someone that admits doing so.

It seems Trump can't help but talk about his problems with
the investigations going on over his people and their connnection
with Russia. Hanging out a countries dirty laundry is bad for for
any president. Trump seems to forget it's all about the country and
not his personal problems. It appears he cares more for his own
reputation than the countries.

Trump even blaims Obama because he didn't say anything about
the Russian hacking before the election. If Obama had Trump and
the GOP would have said Obama was spreading lies trying to help
Clinton win the election. So it's just Trump trying to devert attention
away from his self.

We can hope Trump doesn't give the store away when
he meets Putin.

Trump should back off on this fake news thing. It is hurting
our country. It's a free press that keeps the rich from
steping on us all.

World economics always favors the rich. It has throughout
history.  Kings and Emperors start wars not the common man.
There will always be poor people, but I think there should a
system that tries to  limit human suffering wherever possible.
This can't be done by one country, it has to be a world effort.
I understand the 3 riches men in the world have more money
than the lowest 3 billion people in the world together.  It's
this kind of unbalance in wealth that causes a lot of unrest
around the world.

It wouldn't surprise me if the world ends up in another
world war by or in the next decade. It's almost like there are
natural forces at work to limit population. If Trump foolishly
starts a war with N Korea it could spread to China. Russia is
friendly with N Korea too. So would they stand by or do as
they did before and try to help them against us? We hear all
this talk about N Korea and their missiles. What would keep
them from putting a bomb on a ship and sailing right up to one
of our coastal cities? They could have one near all our coastal
cities, docked in Cuba or even Mexico.  Even at 3 miles a nuke
would cause a lot of damage.

Only Time will tell.

GOP
Seems the GOP members mostly want to  hide. Even to call
the police to move voters out of their way. Or so they don't
have to listen to them. This is shameful, I think the Police
should only protect the offical from physical injury, and not
to save their ears from cries of injustice by their voters.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 07, 2017, 11:56:26 am
Trump Day 168
Our man Trump is in Germany talking with other members
of the G20. Also Trump is meeting with Putin. There isn't any
reports about the meeting yet.  The news is mainly about how
big the protests are in Hamburg where the meetings are..

It's said the protests haven't been this big since 2009.  There are
opposing groups among the protesters so there is potention for
a lot of violence if they get together. Seems to me it would be
better to not say where they are going to meet till the day before.

Trump shouldn't relax any of the sanctions if he wants to keep any
pressure on Putin. Putin will likely try to make Trump feel good with
flattery. I get the feeling Trump thinks if he removes some of the
sanctions he will get on Putins good side. Putin will  likely see this
as a sign of weakness, and press to get more.

After WWII Russia continued to occupy eastern Europe till the Soviet
Union was dismantaled in the late 1980's. Due to this perhaps millions
of  Russian citizens moved into these countries to do various jobs, and
the military. Putin is using this as an excuse to claim he needs to
protect those Russians that still live there. If those people don't like
how they are being treated, Putin should tell them to move back to
Russia instead.

There isn't much else to say till the meetings end. I am sure  Trump
will put a good face on it no matter what he and Putin work out.

Go to www.msnbc.com if you want to see more reports and videos..


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 08, 2017, 12:56:05 pm
Trump Day 169
Our man Trump met with Russias Putin for 2 hours. Apparently Trump agreed
to forget about the hacking because Putin said he didn't, and Trump left
it at that. Why? Because Trump doesn't believe the CIA. Why? Because they
supposedly said Iraq had weapons of mass distruction and they didn't. If
Trump was willing to find the truth he would find Pres Bush wanted the war to
get more oil out of Iraq. Not to steal the oil, but to help them produce more
oil.

This whole business with Trump wanting to cozy up to Putin is about money. The
secretary of state in the past had a 1/2 trillion dollar deal with Putin to drill for
oil in  Siberia and other places that require american expertise to reach. That's
likely the reason he was at the meeting with Trump.

I was shocked to hear that almost half of GOP voters think Putin is a nice guy.
Just misunderstood, and all the bad things in the news are fake. It's a shame
those who were killed wanting to show Putin for what he is. Can't be heard
He is a crime boss.with  the Russian military behind him. Actually in front of
him, because like all dictators they have to hide behind their body guards.

It is true Putin's Russia has morality laws much the same as the Far Right
wants for our country. So I guess that's the big attraction Putin has for them.
Well perhaps they would like Putins Gun laws too. Or get thrown in jail
without  any rights to due process. Russians can have hunting weapons, but
nothing like we have in the USA. It's true they have contests for sharp shooting
there, but guns for target shooting would be limited, and likely licensed.

Somehow I don't think americans are ready to give up their guns, but it could
come to that if we loose our democracy.

GOP
I want to say first "Not" all those in the GOP really like Trump or the far right.
Many do care about their fellow man. It's a minority who feel we should return
to the past. Trouble is many people only remember the good things when they
think about the so called good old days. They weren't very good when you stop
to think about them.

No Cell phones.
No smart phones.
No internet
No Tablets
No laptops
No desktop computers. In the 1950's computers filled a room, and slower
than your smartphone.
No dvd's
No cd's
No video games
No minimum wage
To name a few things people take for granted today.


No one talks publicly about it much, but many of those in the GOP didn't like
the fact we had a black president. Why else would the GOP have said "NO" to
everything Obama wanted. Even things they would have wanted otherwise.

I grew up in a town that didn't have one black man in the whole community.
In fact in the 1950's a black man would have been put in jail if he was found
in town after dark. I have known people who in private would bad mouth
minorities, and the LGBT would have been run out of town. So I have a pretty
good idea what Obama was up against with those in the GOP.

They preached for years they were going to  get rid of Obama Care. Not the
ACA, but Obama Care. Even to mislead their voters to think  they weren't
the same. They had all those years to work out a good health plan, but no
they want to get rid of all entitlements. To return us to the days where the
poor, old and in-firmed had to beg for help.  Or living in desperation. Why?
Because they think giving the rich a big tax break will make the economy
stronger for all.  This has been disproven over the years, but they keep
trying. I think it's partly because they don't want to help blacks, Hispanics,
or the LGBT. In the 1960's these people put their kids in private schools
so they wouldn't have to  be with black kids. Just kids they felt their
kids should associate with. This just extended racial hatred, and prejudice
against minorities, and LGBT.

The leader of the senate has set a deadline for passage of Trumpcare. He
wants it done befor the august break. that gives them 14 days. After getting
an earful from voters, it's doubtful he can get 50 votes for a plan that will
cause more people to die and rural hospitals to close. Even cost thousands
their jobs.

Come on Trump, you promised more jobs, not less.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 09, 2017, 11:56:44 am
Trump day 170.
Our man Trump has returned to the nest. Tweeting up a storm about all
the good things he did at the G20 and with Putin.

Trump ran for election to make America Great again. Well a person has
to be able to stand up to other leaders in the world. Especially those
who are opponents. Let them know were we/he stands on issues. As is
it seems to be a Tiger in front of a audience of supporters, but turns into
a mouse when talking to someone he can't control or a lleader who doesn't
agree with him.  That doesn't mean he shouldn't be diplomatic, but other
leaders have to know where we stand on things. Backing down trying to
play nice only makes him look weak.

Those leaders in China and Russia aren't looking for a buddy when they
talk to our president. They have an agenda, and will oppose us even
more if they see us as weak. When other world leaders start doing bad
things because they think we are weak or don't care is dangerous. Wars
are often started because of mistakes or miscalulations.

The USA has often been called a paper Tiger, and it seems Trump is
turning out to be the same. A loud mouth at home and meek abroad.
Trump can't make america great by giving other countries advantages
in trade, or loosing the respect of countries around the world. He was
more  like a by stander at the G20 when he could have set the agenda.
I don't think Trump wants the responsibility of being a world leader., much
less make america great. So far he has made a lot of noice while playing
golf. Then charges the tax payers to stay at his own resorts.

Trump has a habit of being a nice guy if he thinks he can gain from
it. This likely did well for him in business, but it likely will be his
downfall, and may drag our country down with him.


GOP
The GOP leadership is still trying to pass Trumpcare. Moving this way
and that trying to dodge the pitfalls. They appear to be moving toward
tax reform. They just want to  cut medicaid so they can cut taxes for
the richest americans and corportations. Many of them don't pay much
in taxes as is.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 10, 2017, 12:53:07 pm
Trump day 171
Our man Trump has been keeping busy on twitter lately. Trying
to defend his meetings in Europe. All he has to do is be honest
instead of all this  spin and lies. Seems he thinks he has to keep
everything secret. Then when someone in the white house leaks
something to the press he calls it fake apparently to cover up the
truth. Sometimes I think he is at the bottom of these leaks trying
to discredit the media.

Nearly all of Trumps people have had meetings with Russians. The
strange thing is they all forgot till the press found out, and reported
it. Then they all remember  suddenly. It appears Trump has had a
connection with Russia for over 10 years. Trump has a habit of being
slow to pay bank loans or declaring bankruptcy. So US banks won't
loan him money. So he goes to Russia and perhaps China for money.
Or perhaps the Russians came to him in the first place. Money has
always been a good way to put pressure on big shots  like Trump.

There may be nothing to this Russian connection, but much of what
Trump and family does makes them look suspicious. Not reporting
contacts with foreign governments can get one jail time when applying
for security permits. Personally I think if one of us did this we would
be in jail by now.

I have said in the past when our leaders fail to hold people accountable
for breaking laws it leads to anarchy. The average man will loose respect
for the law. I hope the GOP understands this as they should. Trump
like many rich people probably feels he can do most anything with a good
lawyer., and enough money.

When Trump ran for office he said he would spend all of his time working
for the country. Instead he complains about the media, playing golf, trying
to make money for his self, and tweets comments that have hurt his
reputation and the country. He seems to think we the USA can sit back
and let the world go by. If we don't work to pressure other countries to
stay honest the rich and crooks of the world will make life miserable for all.
This will wreck our economy in the long run. People only stay honest when
they have to. What will happen when a ship hauling goods has to pay a big
fee to cross a bit of ocean because a leader wants it. This  already
happens, but it will be world wide if no one puts a stop to  it. Driving up
the price of goods for us all. This is just one thing we do as a world
power for our own security.

Putin wants Russia to be a world power, he knows short of nukes he
can't do it militarily. So he is working to  change the world governments
by getting friendly leaders elected. This way he can rebuild the power
the USSR had in the past. At least this is his plan according to those
who understand him. Getting Trump elected apparently has helped him
much more than hurt.  By standing with Putin, Trump made him look
like a equal to Trump and the USA. Trump should have treated Putin
only as a leader not so friendly since Putin hacked our 2016 election.
I think Trump doesn't want to admit to anything that might discredit
his election.

The cease fire in Syria only amounted to a tiny part of the country. The
cyber commission with Russia is like a fox telling chickens he will help
make their hen house more secure. It's more likely it will be less secure
in the end.

Russia has had problems with crime bosses down through history. People
who give protection for money. Putin happens to be Mr Big at this time.
Hopefully this will change in the future, but only time will tell.

Trump has said he had to deal with the criminal element to get jobs done.
So he should understand what kind of person Putin is. Only thing Putin
wants more than just money, he wants to lead the world.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 11, 2017, 01:28:44 pm
Trump day 172
Our man Trump is telling congress to just do away with the ACA and worry
about replacing it later. This shows how little he cares about the working
poor. He promised to stand against the GOP if they didn't make a good
health care plan for all. Just another one of his lies.

Also it appears the top people in Trumps campaign met with a Russian who
told them she had a lot of dirt on Clinton. Trump said he didn't know, but I
really don't think much happened wtih his campaign that he didn't know. At
the same time Trump was asking Russia to do what ever it takes to find Clinton
emails. The stories have been shifting left and right about this, but it could
end up with people going to jail. Even if they didn't get any info. They as any
american should have told the FBI when the Russian contacted them. Instead
they met with her hoping to affect the outcome of our presidential election.

GOP
The GOP leadership and Trump want to finish this health care mess so they can
get on to the Tax reform they want. Gotta save the rich people money. They
need it so bad.

The public is shouting and calling their congress members, even in the halls of
the capital. Driving the GOP to distraction. They should be ashamed calling the
police to arrest people speaking out for their rights.

The best way to get the attention of any lawmaker that ignores you is get out
and vote to kick them out of office.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 11, 2017, 06:19:29 pm
Well, well, well. When you play with fire, you're going to get burned!  :o

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/trump-jr-russia-lawyer-emails/index.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/11/media/new-york-times-donald-trump-jr-emails/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/tim-kaine-donald-trump-jr/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/donald-trump-jr-full-emails/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/russian-lawyer-natalia-veselnitskaya-donald-trump-jr-today-interview/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/donald-trump-jr-emails-special-counsel/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/trump-russia-lawyer-web/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 12, 2017, 12:07:24 pm
Trump Day 173
Our man Trump and the GOP will likely do all they can to twist contacts wiht
Russia away from them and toward the democrats and Clinton before it's over.

TRump has a history of trying to expand into Russia to build one or more hotel
towers. Putin has stood in his way, so it's possible Trump could offer Putin more
than he shouldl as president for personal profit.

GOP
Those in the GOP leadership continue to say the democrats are standing in the way
of their agenda. This is strange as the GOP controls both houses of congress and the
white house. Working together they can just about do anything they want. So excuses
against the other party is just crying on the part of the GOP. It's time they listen to
the people of this country, and not only the wishes of their own party.

Laws and legislation by one patty has rarely stood for more than a few years.  It's
because when the opposing party gets control they reverse it. It's much better to have
both parties working together in an honest manner to pass legislation that affects the
majority of the people. Like entitlements and taxes.

It appears the GOP due to personal feelings about Obama, or possibly due to their
supporters not liking it because a black man was pressident. The GOP has changed
after years of promising to get rid us of Obama care, and almost anything Obama
achieved while in office.  I hope I am wrong, but something has pushed or is pushing
it to the far right. This makes the democrats look like they are moving to the left.
They haven't changed it's the GOP that has.  In my opiion anyway.

The ACA was a GOP health plan, but when Obama tied his hopes to it the GOP lied
about it and worked to stop it's passage. Added amendments reducing it's ability to
work well for the public,  protect the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry.
Now they are telling lies again. The ACA is falutering due to the uncerainty of what
of what it will look like after the GOP gets through with it. It needs to be fixed not
removed. Left to the GOP it will take years to replace it if at all. They want to  return
to the old way that leaves people bankrupt and dying. If they have a health problem
they are on their own.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 13, 2017, 11:06:00 am
Trump Day 174
Our man Trump claims he didn't know about the meeting his son
and the top people in his campaign met with a Russian lawyer.
Who had promised to have dirt on H.Clinton. Odd thing the same
day Trump made a campaign speech saying he was going to expose
all of her crooked activities with Russia the following monday. By
the way he never didcome up with the information after all.

Could it be it was because the Russian lawyer turned out to not
have any dirt on Clinton as promised. So perhaps that's why Trump
never made that speech exposing H.Clinton Russia activities. I think
he knew aboutthe meeting and was expecting the information.
Obviously there isn't any solid proof, but it sure looks suspicious that
Trump knew all about it.

Trump has made many many promises to do things and never follows
up with them. His wife was going to show she was working legally in
the US 20 years ago, but we never saw it. Seems his supporters over
look all this bluster.  I really think if Trump did shoot someone
the GOP and his supporters would try to make excuses for him.

Trump is off to Europe again. I think it's part of the French Bastille
day celebration. I imagine Trump will visit the WWII war memorials
while he is there. I still have my doubts how much he really cares
about our military and the soldiers who fight for us. With all his
lies one never knows when he is telling the truth. It seems he
only got religious after he started running for president.

Trump said Putin wouldn't have wanted him as president. Why? because
he Trump is building up the military. Well Putin isn't likely wanting to
fight a war with us. He is wanting sanctions removed, and with a friendly
man in the white house he feels he can get the sanctions removed. Then
Putin can  hire Exxon to drill deep for oil to feed the Russian economy. This
makes Trumps claim rather doubtful.

GOP
Hopefully the GOP will fail to take health care away from millions
this summer. If they do I imagine the GOP may see the biggest
losses they have had in many years during the midterm election.
They have tied their star to getting rid of Obamacare (ACA). They
use the excuse it's all about a promise they have made to their
supporters. I feel it's just an excuse to give the richest Americans
and corporations a big tax break.

The GOP seem to think they can get by with ignoring the people who
didn't vote for them. As if they don't even exsist. The economy is
doing pretty good today. Partly due to the stock market feeling good
about Trump and the tax cuts the GOP are promising. Mostly the
economy is doing well because of what Obama has done over the years.
Trump called the job growth fake news till he was elected. Now it's all
great and due to all his fine work as president. Looks more like fake
work to me.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 14, 2017, 12:16:23 pm
Trump day 175
Our man Trump has claimed for months he didn't know anyone in Russia. Also
he says he and his family share all information, but then turns around and
says he didn't know his son was meeting with a Russian lawyer to get dirt
on Clinton. I think Trumps lies are starting to catch up with him. Trump seems
to beleave one shouldn't ever tell the truth when a lie will do. I think this is
why he never uses email. It would be a digital paper trail tying him down to the
truth.

As it is with many crooks the boss is very good at side stepping the law, but
his/her cohorts usually that spill the beans. I think Trump has in the past
only followed the law when he couldn't side step it. He might be really good
at it, but he has people around him that may not hold true.

Trump loves pomp and ceremony. The French president has played up to
Trump apparently to gain his favor. Trump was in true form when he started
flirting with the French presidents wife. I am sure Trump would have just
said he was being nice.

Trump supposedly gives corportations a hard time for outsourcing their
work to other countries. Trouble is he isn't saying anything about family
businesses who go to  other countries to have their products made.  Most
are where the labor is low cost. Their excuse is we have to go overseas to
be profitable.

I wonder how american workers feel about how the Trump family who says
they want to support them, but go to other countries instead. I think Trump
should explain to his voters why he is such a hypocrite. Explain why he lied
when he promised to protect health care for all.

Trump best get some better lawyers, I understand they have lost some
cases trying to keep some rich people out of jail. Somehow I feel when
Trump falls he will drag a few big wigs with him. Unless of course he pardons
a few on his way out. The VP might forget to pardon Trump if his political
future is ruined.

GOP
The senate leader is working hard to get 50 votes to pass their crappy
health bill. I am sure whoever was to cause it to fail would catch a lot of
heat from the GOP base. So unless someone is keeping a no vote to them
selves there is a chance it will get 50 votes, then the VP will vote  for the
GOP to win.

If they do win there is a good chance they will go after medicare and social
security in 2019. The Speaker of the house wants to privatize them both.
The GOP hates entitlements, they say people should stand on their own.
I agree, people should, but what about the handicapped, and people born
with health issues. What about people who at no fault of their own end up
broke to starve and die without help. We as a people are better than this,
we are always there to help when our fellows need it. It's a small minority
who don't care, and would probably leave a crying child to die in the street
then deny they saw the kid if asked. This happens  in other countries. If we
let extreemists that don't care about the constitution gain control of the
government it could  happen here. It's a small step from a democracy to a
dictatorship. If you doubt it look at Russia.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 15, 2017, 12:20:18 pm
Trump day 176
Our man Trump is on vacation again spending the weekend at his
resort where a golf match is occurint. I heard a supporter say they wish
the media would leave Trump alone so he could do hhs work. Well
when does he work? He tweets, and yells at tv screens. Fusses at the
media because they won't do what he wants. Tells the GOP to take
health care from the poor.  Claims he doesn't know any Russians which
is just another of his numerous lies. I think this supporter is watching
Fox news and listening to talk radio. All of which is full of misleading stories
of out bad the major media treats the GOP and Trump.

I think the reason the GOP leadership is looking the other
way over all these things Trump and family are involved with., is
because they are just as guilty as Trump is. If a person watches
another break the law and doesn't report it could be found
complicit in the breaking of the law. Especially if they work to
cover it up. Think about the police standing by doing nothing while
someone holds you up and takes your money. The GOP leadership
has been working to cover up Trumps activities as president. They
proably will get by with it politics being what it is, but history
will paint them for what they are.

In the not too distant past the GOP would have had kittens if some
one in the white house was being cozy with the Russians. I am not
sure what happened to them. Even the far right would have been
crying out warnings of disaster for the country. Now they say. Oh
it's a good thing, we need to work with the Russians. Putin is likely
siting with a broad smile on his face.

Trump will sell the country out to the Russians if it makes him millions.
Being the salesman he is Trump knows how to sell his self. He only needed
to agree with every coffee shop politician to get the blessings of the
average white hard working guy accross the nation.  Many people only
remember things about government that irritate them. The $100.00
hammers, the gold toliet seats reported bought be government officials.
Most all of these stories were limited in scope, but it stays in the hearts of
many people.

I think many of Trumps supporters look at Trump as a guy who will stir the
pot of government. To clean up government waste. I know all this sounds
good, but I think they will be disappointed when truth of what he is doing
finally hits home and their wallets. Of course like some people still believe
we never landed on the moon, there will be those who will  always make
excuses for Trump, and blame his problems on others.

GOP
Not much to say about them, but to say they are still trying to pass Trumps
health bill.  They are ignoring any and all connections Trump has with
Russia. I hope the voters hold them accountable in 2018, but only time
will tell.

The GOP continues to claim the ACA is crashing. This is a lie. The problems it has
is mostly due to the GOP causing uncertainty in the market.  Also the problem with
high prices mainly affects less than 10 % of the population.  States that accepted
the plan are still doing well with several insurance companies in their market place.
It's the ones that didn't who have the problems with insurance leaving. Due to not
knowing what the GOP will end up with.  Like all complex laws the ACA needs fixing
and the GOP should work with the democrats to fix it.

Dem
They continue offering their help to fix the ACA, but the GOP just
ignores that help. Even insurance compainies are saying Trumpcare
will be disaster for those who need coverage. But the GOP leadership
acts like a Ostrich sticking its head in the sand.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 16, 2017, 12:29:03 pm
Trump day 177
Our man Trump and the far right media are still calling the meeting with Trumps
people and the Russian government agent a nothing burger. Well our man Trump
has been shown as a lier saying he doesn't known any Russians or had meetings
with them and his campaign. This shouldn't be a suprise as he lies all the time.

His taking credia for how the economy is doing is typical for any politician sI don't
really think much about that. He is even taking credit for the win agains issus in Iraq.
Though  it was in work before he took office.

The economy is doing well for some, but  not others, mainly the working poor. He is
on record for being against the minimum wage.  He like most well off people
call the poor lazy or poorly educated. Why? Because to be rich you have to be
smart. Trump calls rich people smart, so what are less rich people? What ever the
opposite of smart is I guess. You suppose that's why he figured he could win?

Con Artists like Trump depend on people being foolish, needy, or greedy. I imagine
Trump believes the saying. "There is fool born every minute."  I guess that makes the
Russian govenment is very smart. They are oligarchs and we know how rich they are.
I think Trump envies them because he is poor in compassion. 

I can understand why the public is worried more about the economy and jobs than
they are the Russians. But they should be concerned when our leaders break laws or
the constitution.


GOP
The vote for the health care bill has been delayed while a senator recovers after minor
surgery. I am sure that senator was very glad he had insurance coverage. He should
remember that when he returns to the senate. If the loss of one vote wrecks the GOP's
plan they should have hearing to see why, and change it to get more votes. Twisting
arms to get votes is just more dirty tricks.

The GOP are working hard to  discredit this Russian meeting with Trumps campaign.
They should instead be concerned about it. These people have no business in our
government. We need honest people who care more about our country than being or
staying in congress. In the past the parties were more moderate, they could agree
to disagree. Now they don't want to work for the country, just for their party.

All the GOP wants is tax reform so they can cut taxes for the very rich. Where is
the infrastructure bill?We have a lot of infrastructure that is failing. Bridges, railroads,
and many other things our economy depends on.

Instead they work to take health care from those who need it the most, and
tax cuts for the rich. It's time the GOP stood up for the people instead of their
party.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 17, 2017, 12:07:19 pm
Trump day 178
Our man Trump has been in office for about 6 months.  He brags about all the work he is
doing. Seems each week has a new theme. Themes are all well and good, but it takes more
than a press release to get things done.  Trump can't get off this I am the president thing. If
he wants to get things done he should move away from the GOP and try to work with the
democrats. Not to tell them what to do, but ask them what they will agree to. Governing is
all about comprimise. Agreeing to disagree on some things and working to  find common
ground on other things.

He claims compainies should keep their jobs in the USA, but Trump and family hires factories
in other countries to make the products they sell.  Think about that if you think Trump is
all about america first.

He claims he is working for his base, but several of his promises were not reall promises, but
ideas he was tossing out. His wall is still in limbo, his promise of good health care for all is
apparently an empty promisse. Also where are all the jobs  he promised? Many people are
loosing jobs in the retail industry, Some who have jobs don't make enough to pay the bills
and end up in debt they can't pay. The economy growth Obama started is still working, and
of course Trump is claiming credie even though he has done little to help. Mostly pulling
regulations that the big corportations want gone. It saves them money, but how many jobs
does it make? Industry is moving to automation not more workers.

Trump seems to care more about how much money he can make while president than
about the country. He tweeted more about the golf tournament at his resort than he
has about Trump care. Untill Trump get down to doing the jobhe promised to do it's likely
he will continue to h ave problems. Blaming the media for his problems isn't going to
work when his voters loose health care and jobs.

GOP
I think the GOP is in sad shape when they can't work with anyone but their own party. Now
they are waiting for a senator who is recovering from surgery. One senator shouldn't stand
in the way of a bill that affects most of the population. If the GOP does pass it, it's l ikely it
will be replaced when the Democrats take over in the future. Any law thata one party puts
in place will likely be changed. The GOP should fix the ACA. It's a good free market plan. The
trouble is the GOP tied the removal of to their agenda. The problems with the ACA affect a
small percentage, basic plans are sold for $500.00 a year in New York. lWith 13 insurance
companies in their ACA market place. New York did this by putting a 1/2 milling people
on the same plan. Big insurance will offer good deals with enough people in a group.

The market place can be used if the GOP will get off this kill the plan business and
fix it. When elderly grand parents are kicked out of nursing homes, needing care
thay can't get at home. I think our politicians will have to  help or loose their job.
I have a friend who has a grand child that has been on medicaid ever since she was
born. Due to brain damage during birth. She will likely die if she looses the help.
This only  one of who knows how many need help across the country.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 18, 2017, 01:25:29 pm
Trump day 179
Our man Trump is apparently frustrated because the Senate hasn't passed this Trump car.
He is calling to kill the ACA (Obamacare) then come up with a replacement later. This would
cause big increases in premiums and cut over 30 million from the health coverage
they need.  If Trump thinks the GOP is going to replace it he doesn't know them very well. The
GOP wants to privatise all entitlements, social security, medicare and do away with medicaid.

Other countries provide affordable health cre so we can too. The GOP wants to protect the rich
from high taxes.

Trump failed to kill the Iran treaty like he promised, He hasn't started his wall yet. He hasn't provided
good health care for all. Just a few promises he hasn't fulfilled. Where is the infrastructure bill?

I often wonder if Trump has mental issues. The man can't think on his feet very well..  When he makes a
speech he repeats his self, and chcanges from one sentance to another.  It's almost like he has short term
memory issues. I imagine if Trump was suffering from mental problems family and others would try to
hide it. It wouldn't be the first tiime a presidents health problems have been covered up.


GOP
The leader of the senate wants to just remove the ACA. Does he really think the GOP can vote to take
health care from 30 million people?  The GOP doesn't want government health care, much less come up
with a replacement.

The democrates would be happy to work with the GOP to fix the ACA. Not kill it. People need coverage
with the high price of health care. We need to address the high cost as well as fix the ACA. Canada
provideds good health care for 60 percent of the cost here in the USA. Yes sometimes people have to
wait if the need isn't great. Or other low priority care. Like high priced nursing homes, if people want
faster fancier care let them pay for it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 19, 2017, 12:19:03 pm
Trump day 180
Our man Trump continues to keep secrets. Trump seems to think we should trust him
in all matters. Including his talks with someone like Putin.  If Trump didn't have a history
of telling lies, being childish, keeping his taxes secret, and believing people who tell him
how good he is. Trying to stop investigations we might trust him.

Trump at best is a poor business man. With 4 banrupcies that were due to his bad
judgement, though he blaims others. Most people could make money by not paying
bank loans and workers.

I know people want to believe Trump is good for the country, but they need to quit
listening to people like Rush limbaugh, and dig into the facts. Talk Radio guys will
say anything to build their audience. If they think their listeners like  TRump they
will brag on everything he does. Telling half truths and spinning stories so they 
sound good.

Trump tries to blaim others for his problems. The media, the russian investigation,
talk about his campaign.. Well Trump should let go of the fact he lost the popular
vote. Quit worrying how the media paints him.  There will always be people
reporting problems no matter how good a president is.  If Trump can't let go of
his narcissistic woes he will never get much done.

Trump set up a commission on voting. Suppoesdy to stop voter fraud. Well the
GOP does more to suppress voting than any other party. Worry over voting
fraud is nothig more than a GOP plan to reduce voting by people who may not
vote for the GOP. There is ilttle evidence of voting fraud accross the nation.

Trump can't stand the fact he lost the popular vote. He has been crying over
this since the election. Trump has to be number one about everything even if
he has to cheat to make it so.

GOP
The GOP may still try to remove the ACA even if they don't have the votes. Trump
is crying the blues because congress hasn't given him a big win. I don't call pulling
the plug on public health a win. If he does it's time to impeach him.  Along with
those in the GOP who agree with him. The high cost for insurance isn't the fault
of the ACA, It's the fault of the GOP for not fixing it. Untill everying one is in the
pool prices will stay high.

The GOP leadership a\nd their rich supporters are a bunch of money grubbing,
power hungry bums. If they weren't they would want to work with the
democrats to fix the ACA. Not create an unworkable health care system. The
GOP seems to be blind to anything but a free mreket system. Well some things
just won't work that way. Free markets work fine when you have good compitition.
Or if people are buying luxury items. Without regulation greedy people will work
to gouge people in a free market. Just like the guy who charges a huge price
for a product people need during a disaster. Or huge prices for medicine to
make a huge profit.

The democrats are far from being perfect, but they try to work for the little
guy. For Unions, to help the poor, and needy. Most religions say we should
help the poor and disadvantaged. The GOP who claims they support the
religious right should remember this. Many people don't know, but many
in the religious right leadership are more interested in making money than
saving  souls.

There is money to be made from the pulpit and they  know it. Most believe
they are helping people find religion, but the love of money corrupts almost
everyone it touches. It has been proven when some people get rich they will
do about anything to keep it or make more of it. Just like a drug addict.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 20, 2017, 12:10:20 pm
Trump day 181
Our man Trump is now complaining the man he appointed to be atterney general has excused
his self from the investigation of Trump and the Russian connection or anything that applies to
it.  Now why would Trump complain about this? Could it be he appointed him because he felt
as atterney general his friend would break the law and cover for him? Sure looks that way.
Not only that Trump said the special council better stay out of his personal finances. I
doubt if this threat prevents the special council rom doing his job. Even if it requires looking
at Trumps finances.

After running down the atterney general for following the law, I am suprised the atterney
general didn't resign. Will Trump fire him? Only time will tell.

It seems Trump thinks he has to repeat his self over and over again when he talks. Just like
he did during the campaign. Sometimes I wonder if Trump even knoiws he is doing it. Almost
like he forgot what he said a minute earlier.  It's likely his supporters worry about it, but I
imagine world leaders wonder if Trump is right in the head. I understand in meetings he never
stays on the subject at hand, instead just talks about what ever comes to mind.

People say Trump has done alot. Mostly it's just changes to regulations that were intended to
protect people and workers. I think most have been to  help big business make more money. 
It's doubtful they will hire more people with the savings. Or give them a raise. Rich people invest
in the stock market and real estate due to the tax breaks. Congress has always worked to keep
taxes down for those dealing in real estate over the years. Why? Because those in congress
own real estate, or invest in it.

During his campaign Trump claimed he would work every day as president. Well in the last six
months he has spent 54 days at his resorts. Mostly with a golf club in his hands. He has done
some government work while at his resorts, but not much of significance.  It has though made
millions for him, because he can bill the US government for his stay as president.  Theses stays
harm local business,they shut down local airports, streets, and likely costs jobs for the locals.

GOP
I hear Congress is going on their augest vacation after all. If they do they are going to have
to work hard to get much done. They have to get the new budget passed by October.  I
think they are running out of time to get anything done this year.

I wish the GOP would stand up to Trump and do their jobs. Trump is a leader not a dictator.
Trump all but threatened a senator the other day because he didn't support Trump.
I wonder if Trump will ever learn how to govern.. Being president is not the same as being
a CEO of a corporation. He is onely president. The congress can out vote him with a two
thirds vote in both houses. The Court can shut down any law Trump and congress makes.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 21, 2017, 12:07:41 pm
Trump day 182
Our man Trump was reported to be checking into the power of the president on
giving pardons for his staff, family and even to pardon his self. Now this could just
be couriosity, but it makes one wonder if he has a skeleton in his closet he fears
will put him in jail.

Supporters of Trump complain the media talks about the Russia connection with 
Trump all the time. Well it's Trump that keeps the talk alive. He fired the head of
the FBI over the Russian investigation. His people continue ttrying to cover up their
meetings with Russians. Trump had more than one meeting with Putin. That in it's
self is okay, but he did it wiout guidennce or a translator. Trump had to depend on
Putins translator who could have lead Trump to the wrong conclusions.

The Russian talk in the media would die off  if Trump would quit talking about it
in his tweets. The media doesn't make the news, they report it. I admit some
news services do embelish to the left or to the right. Fox news is big for the
far right along with most talk radiao.  The major media trys to be balanced
on their reporting, but there are left leaning stories as well. 

Trump could help his self a lot by not telling lies all the time. Then call it fake
news when the facts show his lies. This hurts his ability to do his job.

GOP
Will the GOP work with the democrats to fix the ACA and help lower drug costs?
I have my doubts. The GOP wants to let the private market control everything.
They claim they want to reduce health costs, but turn around and help the
costs to rise. The Free market will never work well for health care. Except to
make the drug and insurance industry richer.  It's the drug industy that pushes
the pain medicine that  people get addicted to. The GOP claim they want to
help stop this, but I think they will be slow to do it with all the money they
get from the drug industry.

Trump continues trying to discredit the special council. I wonder how long
it will be bfore Trump tries to fire every one doing investigations.

Latest news. Trumps press secretary resigns. I am suprised he stayed as long
as he did. I mean having to make so many excuses for Trump and all.


Dem
The democrats continue to off help to fix the ACA,  and reduce health costs,
but the GOP just ignores them. Or claims the democrats are hurting their
progress.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 21, 2017, 02:08:29 pm
Sean Spicer is out! Hooray!  :D  :D  :D  Now all we need to do is get Bannon, Trump, and Trump's family out of Washington.  >:(
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-anthony-scaramucci/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 22, 2017, 12:12:56 pm
Sean Spicer is out! Hooray!  :D  :D  :D  Now all we need to do is get Bannon, Trump, and Trump's family out of Washington.  >:(
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-anthony-scaramucci/index.html

The new guy said he loooovvves Trump.. Now isn't interesting this guy has bad
mouthed Trump in the past. Just another guy like Trump who goes where the
money is.

I think Trump feels this guy will go out and lie for him on TV. He is a smooth talker and
will make the GOP base feel good.

Trump day 183
Our man Trump is on the war path. The special council is digging into Trumps finances. Even those
oh so secret tax records of his. So he has Fox News running the special council down. Also some
of the GOP doing the same. Problem is the special council is well liked by both parties. So if Trump
does get rid of him it may spread all the info out to the public eye.

Trump supporters claim the media spends too much time talking about Russia. Well it's
leaks and Tweets from the white house that keeps it going. Also Trump firing the FBI director. If
Trump had fired Flynn when he was told he lied about meeting with the Russians
instead of wating almost 3 weeks. The whole russia thing mgith be gone by now.

It's Trumps super ego that is causing him problems. It won't let him accept
the fact the Russian hacks helped him get elected. Then when he lost the popular
vote his ego can't accept that. So he claims there was 5 million illlegal votes for Clinton.
Trump can't let all this go. He embraces Putin, and bad mouths our allies. Why? It's
likely due to the fact Russia loans him money, and may let him build Trump Towers
in Russia. So it's no wonder he would try to be buddies with Putin. Even when it hurts
the country he is suppoed to protect.  People say whats wrong with being nice to
Russia?  Well if Putin gets his way our economy will suffer. He will control a large
percentage of the world economy. That will pull us down and not First like Trump
claims he wants.

Trump only wants to talk about wins not failures. If we ignore the failures we will
repeat them. No CEO worth their salt would ever ignore problems or try to blaim
them on someone else like Trump does.

By the way Trumps immigration bans are causing real trouble with crop harvests
in the southwest. Fruit and vegetables are going to waste because they don't have
any workers to pick them. Before Trump Migrants from Mexico did the work. Few
Americans are willing or able to do stoop labor in the fields.  So all you supporters
of Trump can thank him for higher food prices this fall.

GOP
Don't let the leader of the senate fool you. He hasn't given up on getting rid of the ACA
yet. The GOP leadership wants to get the federal government out of the business of
helping the working poor, much less the poor. They want private interprise to help
the poor. Just like the did at the late 18 hundreds. Where people lived hand to mouth on
public charity. That is if the public cared enouth to help. The rich guys in the GOP know to
take care of the approximate 15% of people who need help they would have to pay higher
taxes. Many poor people are minorities they don't want to help in the first place. Much less
pay higher taxes to help.

The country always does best when we work together. Leaving the disadvantaged to suffer
and die is where we are headed if the GOP stays in power. It is sad that a party of at best
less than 40% of the populations has control of the government. Especially with the agenda
it has.

I think we have GOP people in the senate and congress that have violated their oath of office. I
wonder if there is a law against that. If there is they should be held accountable for their actions.
Even if it has to wait till the democrats take power. If we let people in congress get by with this it
will happen again and again. No matter who is in power. Politics should never be an excusefor
violating the constitution.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 23, 2017, 11:56:32 am
Trump Day 184
Our man Trump continues pressing to end the investigation over his connection
to the Russians. He is telling his supporters it's a witch hunt. Well if the facts
are a witch hunt then so be it. Using conspiracy theories are not facts, but Trump
and the GOP spread them around like they are. This country is moving away from
democracy toward authoritarianism. All the signs are there. Every free democracy
has fallen first by loosing the free press. The government takes over the press so
they can feed the people lies and theories to discredit good people that are trying
to protect us all.

Tv stations across the country are being required to air conservatives spewing lies
and half truths trying to discredit anyone in government who won't support Trump or
those he wants in power. They play on the fears of the people to gain support from a
active minority. They know the majority will stand back untill it's too late to stop them.

Once they have control the rest of us will either submit or go to jail. Because they will
brain wash enforcment to follow them. This is how countries like Russia, China, and
other autoritarian goverments keep their people in line.

I am sure most people who read this will think I am over reacting, but if we ignore the
truth, and let others worry about things. One day we may find our selves wishing we
had. One day in the future your grand children may ask. "Why did the police take our
neighbor away? He was a nice man who told us of how the country was in the past.
You will have to say "it's not allowed to speak out against the president or country."

I think having a president who will stir things up is fine, but not to ignore what makes
the country great. It's our rule of law, and constitution that makes the country great. Not
some guy who is out to fatten his wallet at our expense. Trump does what he wants even
uif it's against the contitution.

Trump was on an aircraft carrier making a speech about how strong we are. Well Aircraft
carrier strike groups are fine, but they are much more vulnerable to attack and distruction
with the advent of low level anti ship missiles.  We  should move toward more smaller ships
instead of more huge aircraft carriers that can be sunk with the loss of many sailors and
and many aircraft in one fell swoop. At the end of the soviet union they were perfecting a high
speed attack ship designed to take out aircraft carrier groups. I am sure Putin has continued
to support this. Also China has built misssiles designed to destroy aircraft carriers. Aircraft
carriers were fine in the past, but like the battleships of the past their day is closing.
Let's spend our billions on smaller ships that are low profile to radar for launching air attacks
in the future.

GOP
It's time our congress stands up for the constitution not for their party. We can only hope
the public will teach them right from wrong in 2018. Only Time will tell.

It always amazes me when a polictical party claims it has a mandate of all the people.
Just because they won by perhaps 1 to 3 percent of the vote. If they had won by 2/3
of the vote, then I would agree they have a mandate. Trump claims a mandate when
he lost the vote for president. Claiming a mandate due to the electorial vote instead
of the popular vote is wrong.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 24, 2017, 12:30:36 pm
Trump day 185
Our man Trump is still giving his atterney general a hard time. If he doesn't like
his work, why not fire him?  I think he wants him to  resign to keep him self from
looking like the bad guy.

Trump and the GOP are trying to twist the Russian connection to H. Clinton and the
democrats. Now isn't that interesting since it's he and his people who are talking
to the Russians. Trump has been borrowing money from Russia, selling to Russian
oligarchs. It has been found the oligarchs are involved in money laundering, so did
Trump get his hands dirty washing their money? Perhaps that's what Trump is worried
about. Trump and his people have claimed they had no meetings with Russia untill it
was found out. This asked the question why hide this fact?

Trumps son n law claims it wa staff that caused his security clearence form to be
wrong or lack data.  I really doubt if he signs anything without reading it first. So to
me this is a lame excuse.

During his campaign Trump mused he could shoot someone and not loose votes. Now
he is checking to see if he can pardon his self. If this was allowed, in theory Trump could
order the military to give him a fully automatic machine gun. Then use it to kill his staff
Turn around and pardon his self to get away with murder. Now I know this is taking it to
the extreme, but it shows why letting any president pardon his self is wrong.

GOP
The GOP continues to try to cover for Trump and his people. I really don't know
why they worry about Trump. The VP would likely sign their dirty bills into law as
well. Still they put the hearing with Trumps son and son n law in a closed meeting
when it was reported to be an open one in the beginning. Did Trump push for a closed
meeting? If so why? Is he afraid the public might hear something bad about him, or
some deal he has done? Only Trump or the GOP can say.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 25, 2017, 01:35:31 pm
Trump Day 186
Our man Trump continues to say connections with Russsia had nothing
to do with helping him win the presidency. Trump apparenly is planning
to get rid of the atterney general. Possibly to stop all investigations
of him and his campaign. Or to render them impudent.

Trumps son n law was in a senate committe today. According to a senator
who was there the man was answering questions in a way to keep his
answers so it would be almost impossible to say he wasn't being truthful. Kind
of like a politician.

It seems everyone connected to the Trump camplaign had memory loss for
meetings with Russians untill they were reminded by the press. I could
understand where someone might forget if he/she had met with many
foreign dimplomats during the same time. I understand they didn't
meet with anyone except Russians. So to me it's just more lame
excuses trying to keep them selves and Trump out of trouble.

No one in past presidential campaigns has had this much trouble with
remembering such things.

Trump and company can continue telling lies and breaking their oath
to keep the constitution as long as those responsible to enforce
these rules refuse to hole them accountable.

Untill Trumps supporters take the time to see what Trump is doing
instead of listening to fake news from the far right. I fear little
will be done to correct it.

Trump should be ashamed the way he talked to the Boy Scouts. Making
an adult style political speech to kids of all people. is he thinking
some of them will be voters by 2020? Who can say with Trump. He should
have been telling them to be good citizens not Trump supporters.

GOP
The senators will be voting to debate the GOP plan to get rid of the
ACA again, with no replacement. Attention Trump supporters, your man
said he would make sure the GOP passes a health plan for everyone that
was lower in cost. You keep saying he is doing a good job. How about
his health care promise? The senate needs 50 votes to put the bill up
for debate. So Arizona senator Mc cain is coming back after surgery
hoping to get the votes. I think it's discusting for them to ignore
the people who didn't vote for the GOP. Health care is about everybody,
not just republicans. If it only affected the GOP it would be ok, but
this affects everyone. I bet Mc Cain keeps his government funded health
care, along with the other senators, representatives, and Trump.

This debate thing is just an excuse to get the bill on the senate floor.
The senate leader plans to call for a vote to remove any amendments
at the end of the debate. Then vote to repeal the ACA with NO replacement.
If successful they will use the savings they got by cutting medicaid to
cut taxes for the richest americans. To hear them this will create Jobs
Jobs Jobs. Sure when pigs fly. It will just make richer billionairs, and
few if any Jobs while thousands suffer and die for lack of health care.

In my own state of Missouri people elected a GOP govenor who is cutting
social programs so he can keep from raising taxes. Thousands of people
needing rest home care are at risk of being ejected because the
govenor refused to sign a bill that would have protected these people.
Seems in some cases the GOP will stop at nothing to save their rich
friends a dollar. I didn't vote for him, and proud to say so.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 26, 2017, 12:23:16 pm
Trump day 187
Our man Trump still complaining that his Atterney General
isn't doing a good job. He wants him to investigate
H Clinton for her connections with Russia. She only
had connections with Russia as part of her job for petes
sake. As for her emails. Trump h as given away more
secrets than H Clinton ever had on her email server.

His Atterney general is doing more to follow Trumps
promises about getting ride of ilegal immagrints and
makeing punishment for law breakers. More for the poor
and minorities. Not for those with money and power.

Trump wants total loyalty from people as he did when
he was hiring those to work for him. Trump either
doesn't understand or care that people who work for
the government are loyal to the constitution first
ant the law. Trump seems to think he can do anything
that comes to his mind, and if people in government
don't follow him they are terrible people.

Trump has to learn he is NOT above the law. Of course
if thoes that enforce the laws let him get by with it
he isn't likely to  change. I think some of his supporters
love it when Trump breaks the rules.. I bet they wouldn't
like it if they were victimized and the authorities did
nothing to stop it. HIs supporters need to realize this
stuff is serious, and not a game to laugh at.

I imagine in another year when budget cuts and loss of
health insurance comes home to roost, many of his
supporters will start falling away. Already some of his
base is not happy with the promises of health care for
all isn't coming to pass like Trump promised. Instead
Trump is pushing to get rid of health care.

Trump is all bluster when at a ralley, on TV, or Tweeting in the
oval office. He is surrounded with armed guards in those places,
but he hasn't the guts to call the Atterney general into his
office and fire him if he won't resign. On his TV show his one
on one firing was all an act.

I think Trump is actually a coward. He has lived with body
guards for many years, and likely fears to physically confront
anyone. He waited till the FBI director was out of town to
fire him. Then he did it by having a body guard deliver
the message. I don't think this is the case with women. I
think we know how he treats them.

The stock market may be setting it's self up for a big fall. I
understand banks have been buying stocks to help it stay
up. This can only go on for so long. Then what?



GOP
The GOP had 90 people arrested today be cause they were
peacefully disrupting the GOP from trying to get rid of
the ACA. Shows the GOP is more than willing to toss
people out if they get in their way. I am suprised
the GOP hasn't passed a law to fine people for trying
to be heard.

Democrats
They are using all means to slow the process to give
people time to let their senators know how they feel.
Otherwise there is little they can do since the GOP
can change rules to  suit their purposes.

As I have said in the past. Only by voting a party out
can stop corruption of government by any political
party, be they democrats or republicans.


If we don't, some day we may have people in power
who will find a way to keep power no matter what we
want.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 27, 2017, 11:21:30 am
Trump day 188
Our man Trump tweeted to not allow Transgender people
in the military. I wonder if he knew we have about
15,000 serving. Removing that many people will cause
problems from the top down. It's possible Trump might
back up on this once he see's the trouble it will
cause. Trump claims he discussed this with military
people, but that is another one of his lies.

There is a report Trump did this because conservatives
in congress didn't want to pay for health issues many
Transgender have. Well seems the military spent over 40
million on Viagra and other impotent problems service
men had. The Transgender costs were at most 5 million.
Seems they were holding funding for the ridiculous wall
with Mexico hostage over it.

This whole mess has likely staarted with him wanting
to remove the atterney general. Turns out the far right
likes the atterney general, and is giving Trump some
static over his removal. So now Trump is talking about
how bad Mexicans are again. Hoping to let his base know
that removing the atterney general won't make it easier
on illegal aliens.

What is it about the investigation that has Trump so
worried he must try to stop it? Even if he has to fire
the atterney general to get it done. This may be enough
to turn enough GOP members to set up an congressional
investigational council that Trump can't touch.

I don't think Trump even cares about immigrants in the
first place. It's just a sore spot with a lot of people
he is using to get support. Many of the people he has
hired to work for him were aliens. He authorized work
visa's for a large group so they could work at his
resorts this spring. Guess what? they work cheap.

Trumps Tweets could get us in a war, since Trump doesn't
seem to understand that other netions take his words as
american policy. Tweet or vocal.

Trump appointed a man to the criminal divison of the
justest department that has ties to Russia. Seems Trump
never learns. He complains about the press talking about
the Russian investigation and he continues to feed it.
Oh this guy says he won't excuse his self even though
he worked for Trumps campaign. Is this a man Trump hopes
will stop any movemnt to cause trouble for Trump and
family? Only time will tell.

Trump is making not so veiled threats against the people
of Alaska because their senator failed to support Trump and
the so called health bill he wanted. Every day Trump just
digs his self deeper into trouble. Senators don't take threats
like this kindly.

GOP
The senate leadership is trying it's best to pass a bill
to get rid of the ACA. Trump wants a win and they seem to
think they have to give him one. No matter who it hurts.

The GOP and Democrats have passed more sanctions against
Russia, Iran, and N korea. Trump may not want to sign as the
Russians are saying these sanctions will hurt relations. Well
they attacked our election, so it's likely congress will over ride
any veto Trump may try to use to stop it. Only time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 28, 2017, 12:00:02 pm
Trump day 189
Our man Trumps new man is a real potty mouth. It appears
Trump wanted someone to be out there doing whant he
doesn't have the nerve to do on his own. I wonder how
many of his religious supporters like this kind of
language coming from the white house. You would think
Trump would want someone who could express his self
better. Calling people dirty names looks dumb. This
reflects poorly on the president of the country.

It seems Trump is still trying to puressure the FBI by
accusing top people in the FBI for leaking security
information. To discredit the FBI because they artn't
loyal to him.

Troump is out to stop the investigation about him and
his campaigns connection to Russia. To discredit any
people who are trying to investigate him.

Trump must be getting more desperate, he hired two
people who protected the Govenor of New Jersy form
bridge gate.

There must be a terrible truth Trump is trying to
hide. Perhaps even to destroy him financially and
perhaps put and others in prison. Otherwise why is
he trying to wreck the careers of anyone who is
investigating him.

The strange thing is Trump has done all this to his
self. For some reason he has the idea he is above the
law. This is what is getting him in trouble. The more
he tries to stop the investigation the more trouble he
will have. Even if he fires people, others will carry
on. The only way he could stop it would be to declare
marshal law. Then hide in the white house hoping people
would support him.

GOP
GOP members made noise like they would punish Trump if
he fired the attorney general. I have my doubts. Their
rich supporters are leading the GOP by the nose. If they
fail to do what they are told their campaign money will
be gone. At least from the billionaires. Only a few GOP
members are ignoring the money and listening to the
voters.

This is why the GOP leadership is still psushing, yes still
pushing to kill the ACA. The billionaires that support them
want to get rid of all the social programs that cost them money.
That includes Health care, medicare, social security
medicaid, and health care for the veterans. Yes even
those who are retired from the military.

Trump tweeted lets let the ACA die, and hurt americans.  Trump
appears to be pushing to sabotage the ACA, to punish people
because they let him fail. A president works for the people not
against them. He even said let's change the rules so 51 votes
win. This is weird. Besides I think it's in the constitution that
requires a majority vote to pass.

Even though the GOP lost the vote they will not stop trying to
get rid of entitlements. They want to privatize everything wither
it works or not. Mc Cain voted it down over the process more
than anything else. To move the bill through committes instead
of closed back rooms controlled by rich supporters of the GOP.
Only time will tell if the GOP returns to good government or not.

If the GOP continues to stand with Trump they will fall with him. I
have a hunch they will scatter like rats if and when Trumps ship of
power sinks.





 

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 29, 2017, 11:13:51 am
Trump Day 190
Our man Trump made a speech in front of an audience of police, He
encouraged them to be physically tough with those they arrest. Trump
claimst to be for law enforcement then truns about and tells our police
to break the law. We did our best to get rid of police brutallity in the
1960's. Now Trump wants to go back to it? Many innocent people
were seriously injured with mob violence, and that's what police
brutality is.

Supporters of Trump say let Trump be Trump. Let him decided how
to be president. Well a president is for all americans not just for the
man or woman wearing the title. When a president acts like an idiot
or childish it makes us all look bad.

Trump took an oath to keep the constitutions and the law. Then he
turned around and told all agencies in government to not support the
ACA which is the law of the land. It is the job of congress to get rid of
a law. NOT the president.  He did this so he could claim the ACA was
failing when it was and is not failing on  it's own. It is the GOP controlled
government who is failing the ACA and the americans who need it.
Trump and the GOP continue to break the rule of law in the name of
politics.


GOP
As I have said in the past. The GOP and Trump don't want to help the
poor or minorities because they see them as lazy people. There isn't
anything new about this. They won't publically admit it because they
could loose votes. Trump goes even farther calling them ignorant. If
didn't why does he call rich people smart?

The GOP claimes if they help the poor or minorities they will become
dependant on the government. Well then teach them to help them
selves. Religion teaches us that it's better to teach a man to fish than
to just give him a fish. Most people don't fish these days, but the
same idea applies.

They should set up regualtions that don't take help away when people
start to help them selves. Doing this discourages people from wanting
to help them selves. The help should be reduced slowly as to not
discourage people from standing on their own. When people on aid
get help that could cost more than they would get on minimum wage,
how can we askt hem to give it up? If minimum wage doesn't pay
enough to equal the aid then minimum wage should be increased.

The religioun that the GOP mostly clings to tells us to help the poor and
the lame. To provide food for the hungry and to help children. So why
do they still turn around and ignore the beliefs they claim to hold?

Just saying I made it so anyone who tries can doesn't work in many cases.
People are born with handicaps, and mental problems. Som learn slower
than most. To ignore the disadvantaged only creates desperate people
who will turn to  crime. Nothing is perfect,, but to ignore the needy is
wrong.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 30, 2017, 12:03:41 pm
Trump day 191
Our man Trump hired a new chief of staff. A 4 star general
without much political experience. Is he just another yes man
for Trump?  Or will he tell Trump to give him the authority he
needs to do the job? Or tell Trump when not to tweet? If he
can't or doesn't nothing will change. Only time will tell.

Trump wants to  run the White house like the hub of a wheel.
With him as the hub. Many years has shown it's better to let
staff deal with the chaff of government. The president is there
to make the decisions that only he has an authority to make..
Trump seems to only want to talk about how good he is, play golf
and Tweet instead of being president. The way it is he just wants
to play the part of a president. Much as he played the part of a
CEO in his TV show "The Apprentice". This is why people need the
experience of government to be a good president.

The Sinclaire broadcast group is requiring their affiliates to
play pro Trump reports by a man who has a Russian
accent 9 times a week.. What's next a fireside chat with
Putin? This is another step toward fascism. They are trying
to convince the general public to  support the far right
agenda. The Sinclair group reaches 70% of the country.

Florida agreed to send Voting information to Trumps
voting fraud investigation. There is no evidence of
voting fraud except in Trumps mind. So far most states
are refusing to do this.

N Korea continues to threaten the USA with missile launches
and bomb tests. If Trump doesn't work to convince N Korea
we aren't out to depose the N Korean leader, we could be headed
for a disastrous war that  could include attacks to our own
mainland. Trump has cut the State Department to the bone.
An agency that works to keep the peace and used to  have
people with a lot of experience dealing with bad leaders.

Will Trump go down in history as starting or causing a war that
costs the lives of millions? I hope not. If he does he will blame
it on someone else, that I am sure.

GOP
The GOP will need to hold Trump and his people accountable
if they want to stay in power.


Democrats
There are  a lot of people running as democrats for office accross
the country for 2018. Has the GOP stepped into one meadow muffin
too many? Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 31, 2017, 12:23:11 pm
Trump Day 192
Our man Trump calls his new Chief of staff a great man. Of course
Trump calls everyone he likes great. This man has a lot of experience
in the military, but not much in politics. In the military he could order
people to do their job, but can he lead civilians the same way? I think
he will find one has to work with civilians not order them. Otherwise
they will turn against him.

Trump seems to  think people from the military can do a better job
of running the white house. Well the military works differently than
civilians do, and with politics its mostly comprimise.

Trump is still pushing to change health care to give tax breaks to
the rich, and insurance companies. This encludes tax breaks on
the big bonuses the CEO's of those compainies get. Trump ran
claiming to be a friend of the common man, but instead he is
a friend of rich men, especially the very rich. .

Trump says N Korea will be dealt with, and blaims China for not
helping or stoping N Korea. China would likely have to envade
N Korea to stop N Korea, but they want the government of
N Korea to stay. They don't want a democratic nation sitting
against their boarder. Russia supports N Korea too. We have
to find a diplomatic way or it will end up in a war.

We should use sanctions against N Korea and other countries
that support  N Korea and their military build up. I would
rather see the N Korean leader sitting on his thumb than
starting a war.

Now Trump is threatening to not pay the substies that the working
poor depend on to get insurance.Just the suggestion of doing this
will cause insurance companies to bail out. This is sabotage by
Trump.

Trump continues to  claim the economy is doing much better
since he took office. Well if the economy continues as is it will
have a very modest increase of 1.9 percent. Which isn't very
great. Trump was saying he would have us up to 6 percent.
He and the GOP will have to work much harder to get that.


GOP
They are still trying to find a way to get rid of the ACA instead
of fixing the problems the GOP likely added to it with all the
amendments they tacked on to it in the first place. Some to
prevent the government from making better deals wiht insurance
and drug companies.

The only way to cut costs for health care is by regulation. Too
many people won't buy insurance. Then when they end up in
the hospital they go broke. This runs costs up for everyone
else because losses are passed along to those who do have
insurance We have to have everyone paying or prices will stay
high especially for individuals, and those with health problems.

The GOP didn't like Obama because he is a black man. They can
deny it, but why else would have treated the president the way
they did. No other president was treated this way by the GOP did
over the last 8 years. Obama had his faults, but the GOP just said
NO to everything he tried to do. Even for job creatiing infrastructure
the country desperately needs. Obama asked congress to  work on it
but they said NO.

The GOP has used the ACA as a battle cry for almost a decade,
but haen't come up with a good replacement. I think it's because
the ACA was a plan they liked, but since Obama passed it they
couldn't agree with it wiithout giving a black man credit for it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 01, 2017, 01:35:31 pm
Trump day 193
Our man Trump is under a law suit about writing a false news story
during the campaign.  Also it has been reported Trump drafted a
false story for his son and the meeting with the Russian lawyer.

Seems Trumps problems just keep stacking up. Most of them are
by his own hand. He continues to call them fake news apparently
to keep him and his famly out of trouble.  The way it's going I
don't think his lies are going to keep the troubles away.

Trumps new chief of staff did fire the potty mouth new guy. So
that was a plus at least. I understand he was lead out of the
white house.

GOP
Nothing much new with the augest recess coming up. I think
they are planning to keep the senate open to keep Trump from
doing recess appointments.


Dem
They are continuing to do what they can to protect health care and
keep the rich guys from getting big tax breaks on the backs of the
working poor.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 02, 2017, 12:32:12 pm
Trump day 194
The Trump administration justest department is moving
to undo affirmative action by sewing colleges and
schools to stop them from applying affirmative action.

Also the Justest department is saying gays do onot
have civil rights protection against discrimination.

I could be wrong, but this smells of the Far right
pushing to move our country back to the 1950's.
I think it's a first step moving in that direction.
Nothing heard from the white house as yet. In
the end the Supreme court will decided it.

Trump is apparently stalling on signing the
bill that puts sacnctions on Russia, Iran, and
N Korea. I think this bill puts Trump in a box.
If he signs it, he is admitting the Russians
helped him win the election. If he doesn't
sign it, then it, it makes him look like Putin
has something on Trump.

Trump finally signed it witout photos or
fanfair, but complained that congress was
wrong to pass it.

As outspoken Trump is it's odd Trump hasn't
commented on what Putin has done since congress
passed the bill. Not one public word or tweet.

Day two for the new chief of staff. It would
seem he is okay with the rest of the staff. No
more firings anyhow.

Trump is pushing to change our immigration policy
of over 100 years to one where someone has to
speak english, and to have a skill to get a Green
card. Skill based immigration goes against the
promise to accept the poor and disadvantaged of
the world. Sure letting people in because they
have a useful skill is fine. It will keep them off
the welfare roles. I wonder how skilled people
will feel when a immigrant takes a good job
from them.

I guess that's why Trump hires skilled  foreign
workers for his hotels and resorts. Instead of
using home people to do the work. Could it
be they work cheaper?

Trump doesn't like Amazon for some reason. Could
it be the owner of that huge corportation doesn't
support Trumps ideas? One thing the owner of Amazon
is much richer than Trump, and he did it witout a
millionair father to start him out. So according to
Trump law (Intelligence based on riches) he is much
much smarter than Trump or any one else who he
calls smart.

Trump is bragging about the stock market hitting
a record 22,000. Brag on Trump, most people in
the country can't afford stocks. So it doesn't
really reflect a growing economy. So far this
year the average is less than 2 percent. It
was 2.5 percent or more under Obama.

GOP
Those of us who want good health care need to
keep the pressure on, because the GOP leadership
in the house and senate want to get rid of the
entitlements. The ACA, Mediaid, Medicare,
Social Security, and the Veterans health care.
All to be privatized so they can cut taxes
for the very rich. In other counrtries the
very rich pay the bulk of the social costs. They
don't want that here..Very rich are people that
have 100's of milliions, and billions of
dollars, and they want more no matter who
it hurts.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 03, 2017, 11:38:27 am
Trump day 195
Our man Trump is telling lies again. Claiming the national
office of the boy scouts called him. They didn't. He claimed
the leader of Mexico called him. He didn't. Could it be
Trump really believes he got these calls? Or just trying to
look important.

I really do wonder if Trump is having memory problems. To lie
about things like this seems counter productive at best. It's
so easy to fact check them. I know his supporters don't worry
much about his lies, but if foriegn countries can't believe
him. What would happen in a crisis where a few words could
start or stop a war.

If Trump does have memory problems he should resign for the
good of the country. Problem is Trump probably wouldn't admit
it to his self. or want to. If he does it's likely those around him
would want to hide it. To keep their jobs and the power Trump
brings them.

Trump seems to be afraid of Putin. He never talks against Putin.
It can't be the nukes as China has more than enough of them
to cause much the same damage as Russia could cause. So
why would Trump cow to Putin? He bad mouths all other countries
including China, but not Russia. Perhaps the investigation of Trump 
will bring it to light.

Trump and the GOP continue trying to limit immigration. Even
though our economy depends on the labor foreign workers
provide. Also these people harvest crops we need for the
food we need to eat.

During a press conference today a reporter was reminded the
script at the base of the statue of libery was added later. About
20 years. Well the administration should also remember
the Bill of rights was added to our constitution about 20 years
later too. I think in both cases the importance of their content is
valid.

Trump is loosing ground in the polls. This is likely to worry
the GOP. Perhpas it's why the GOP isn't listening to Trump like
they were before.

Trump scolded his generals because the ware in Afghanistan
isn't going well. Trump promised he had a winning strategy
there. Trump even was complaining that China was mining
minerals there while we spend money and lives. Trump isn't
likely a scholar of history. If he was he would know you can't
win a war with bombs. The people of a country have to want
to change. Otherwise the same people will move right back
in when we leave.

GOP
Even though Trump told the GOP to keep trying to  get rid
of the ACA they are moving on to other business. They will
be up against a debt increase when they return from their
augest recess. Also the budget has to be passed this fall or
the goverenment will shut down.

They have left on vacation even though Trump said they
couldn't leave.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 04, 2017, 12:32:27 pm
Trump day 196
Our man Trump proved how greedy he is by charging
the secret service so much at Trump Tower they moved
out into a trailer on the sidewalk. A rather shameful
thing to do. Trumps people said they had to charge
the price due to costs. I feel so sorry for Trump that
he has to charge such high prices to not go broke. "NOT"

Trump was in West Virgina having another rally. He
should be doing his job instead of having a brag fest.
He continues to call the Russian investigation a witch
hunt. Well time will tell, but Trump should leave it
alone, and let it run it's course. If he is truthful
and honest he hasn't anything to worry about.

There is a report a grand jury has been put together in
Washington DC for the investigation. Trump might fire
Muller, but the grand jury is part of the judicial system
outside Trumps control. Congree is working to protect
Muller so if he is fired, a 3 judge panel will check to
see if there was good cause to fire him. If not he will
be reinstated. Hopefully congress is successful in setting
this up.

West Virgina's Billionaire govener decided to switch
parties. From democrat to republican. Which he was in
the past. Did he run as a democrat just to get elected?
I wonder who orwhat caused that? It seems the more
money people havethe more they want. If there is an
afterlife, I fear they are going to be very miserable in it.

A couple of transcrips were leaked. Here are links to the
transcripts of the calls.

Call to Mexico

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpcalls-915a-flipper%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.53b0b91d6912 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpcalls-915a-flipper%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.53b0b91d6912)

Call to Australia


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.91255b745d3d (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.91255b745d3d)

The attorney general made a speech saying the justist department
will be working investigate all leaks that affects national security.
We should hope they don't use this as an excuse to curb the press
from publishing the truth about our government. The only real damaging
leak was by Trumpwhen he had the Russians in the oval office. Phone
calls by the president shouldn't be made public in that it could keep a
forilgn leader from being open in a conversation with our president.

In Trumps rally it sounded like Trump is saying if the democrats win
they will use this hoax about the Russians to impeach me. I think this
will be his rallying cry for the 2018 mid term election. Vote to keep
the GOP in power, or you will loose me as president. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 05, 2017, 12:20:32 pm
Trump day 197
Our man Trump called the white house a real dump. Asked, his people
claimed he didn't say it. Then when pressed with the facts they
said "Oh its just a joke, he didn't meann it." Now he is at one of
his golf resorts for two weeks to have what he called a working
vacation. In my opinon he has been on a vacation sence he was
elected.

What else would you call someone sitting around watching cable
news and tweeting. Not counting all his complaints about the
media because they don't brag about him.


Trump and the GOP still claim global warming is a hoax,, but
China and India are turning clean energy into jobs while here
in the US we are starting to fall behind.

Big business here in the US is holding us back because they
don't want to change.from the fossil fuels that has made them
incredibly rich. Trump should be pushing for clean energy.
If we don't the rest of the world will leave us in the dustbin
of the past.

Let's use petroleum for chemicals. and heat and  cool our homes and
factories with electricity. Along with cars and trucks. It's the
future even if the rich GOP supporters want to keep us in
the past.

Coal miners are wanting to hold on to the jobs of the past.
We need to educate them so they can do the jobs of the
future instead of trying to bring coal back. It's more
expensive, and makes our air hard to breath. Anyone
who has been around coal smoke should know you can
taste it as well as smell it. In the old days there were
much fewer people using it. Even then our cities were
black from the soot of coal smoke.

Change is hard for anyone, but if we don't we will fall
behind. China and India has learned the hard way that
they needed clean energy. I hope we don't have to learn
the same lesson.

The GOP will give us fewer good jobs instead of more.
Manufacturing is moving to automation with fewer
jobs. Machines are replacing the jobs people used to 
do with hands. Ignoring this is a dead end for unskilled
workers of the future. We need more trade schools to
train workers for high tech jobs. Most people can learn
to do about any job with training. College is fine, but
we shouldn't require people to have a college education
to do a job that a trade school could teach them to do.

A bit on the ACA. If Trump doesn't pay the insurance
companies the subsidies for those who can't afford
the premiums under the ACA. Then premiums will go
up for all.

Ever use a pay day loan? Well Trump and GOP want to
cut back on regulations over them. These loans are
predatory and cost those who can afford it the least
a lot of money. They need to be regulated.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 06, 2017, 12:02:21 pm
Trump day 198
Our man Trump loves Fox News. His supporters
watch the channel religiously. If someone on the
channel speaks against Trump, the ratings drop.
So it's no wonder they promote Trump.

Fox is a male run channel. Women are not
given respect there. Not to say all men that
work there are bad, but the channel is very
conservative. Seems conservatives believe
women should stay in the home. So it's no
wonder women have had to work against
conservatives to  gain any rights.

Trump treats women who work for him
like he owns them instead of  like human
beings. Sure he is publicly nice to women
in his family, and others, but I wonder what
it's like in private? Past reports have shown
him to not respect women.

I often wonder why women vote for the
same type of men who act like they
are god's gift to women, but many do.

I know a conservative friend of mine
says he tells his wife  how to vote. In
this case I am sure a woman would want
to please her husband. I often wonder
how many women follow this way of
voting.

I understand black women tend to vote
the way they want, not their husbands way.
Not to say most women are doormats, but
in general around the world very conservative
men try to dominate their wives. I think this is
why men in very conservative circles treat women
like sex objects insead of intelegent people.

Trump needs to  get rid of the far right
conservatives. The trouble is Trumps base
of voters tend to like the far right. So he
would likely be afraid to get rid of people
like Bannon.

That puts Trump and the GOP in a box.
Because they have to please people who
are going to hurt them with the majority
of the people of our country. To keep power
the GOP needs a broad base, not just  the
far right. In 2010 the GOP won enough
seats in state houses with lies about
Obama nad the ACA  to gerrymander  voting
districts to favor voters who support the GOP.

This way they had a better chance to win
elections to congress. Otherwise the congress
would reflect the feelings of the country instead
of those that reflect a conservative minority.

The United Nations placed sanctions on N. Korea.
Now if China will stand by th sanctions? S. Korea
has given N Korea money. If the sanctions aren't
inforced nothing will change.

Will the Trump administration stop saber rattling
toward N Korea or try to work out a diplomatic
solution. I doubt if the N Korean leader wants to
preside over rubble. I understand the guy worries
about being deposed more than anything else. People
of N Korea look on his family as if they were some
kind of divinity. It's no wonder they support him the
way they do. War with people like this would be
almost to their last man. Much like Japan would
have been if the Emperor hadn't told the people to
lay down their arms.

Trump needs to understand we can't bomb people
like this into submission. So we must work to
deal with them and try to give them what they
want. Russia and China are friendly with them. So
perhaps there is away we can learn to agree to
disagree if nothing else.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 07, 2017, 12:20:31 pm
Trump Day 199
Our many Trump is on what he calls a working vacation. Well
perhaps playing Golf is working for him. Trump feels being
president is a 9-5 five day a week job. I have news for him
it's a 24 hour 7 day a week job. There is reason people get
gray headed in the job. It's very stressful with long hours.
Just because Trump wants to goof off won't get it if we have
a crisis.

Trump is claiming he is creating lots of jobs. Well the last
six months with Trump as president shows the same job
growth as the previous six months when Obama still in
office. When Trump was running for office he was calling
job growth fake news. Now with him in office it's great news.

The economy is doing pretty well for many people, but is the
economy doing well for those who voted for Trump? He promised
he would make things great. He can make a nice speech, but
I wonder how long his supporters will wait for the results.

Trump seems to need the cheers of adoring crowds in the rally's he only allows
supporters to attend as he did during his campaign. Only talking to supporters seems
to be Trumps way to keep his base strong. As a business many he should know zero
growth is a way to go out of business. The same is likely to happen by not trying to build
a larger base. Only allowing the supporters in may make for a adoring crowd, but it's
basically living a lie. Every president has supporters and those who don't support them.
Ignoring those who don't support him fails to teach him what he needs to know. Treating
people who don't support him like looser's will cause him to fail. His conservative base
cheers him on, but for how long?

Trump calls any news that doesn't brag on him fake news. Ronald Reagan said
honesty should be fact checked. The GOP and Trump should follow his
advice.

Will Trump end up starting a war with N. Korea? Or will he do what's right and find
a diplomatic solution. Trump doesn't seem to believe in diplomacy as he has cut the
State Department to the bone. The one agency that knows how to prevent wars.
Conservatives have a record of  starting wars.. Both of the Bush presidencies
got us into wars. Clinton was involved in east European wars. Obama started us
with Isis, and returning to Iraq. Seems all presidents find a way to get us involved
with other countries wars. Trump claimed he would end the wars with Afghanistan, and
Isis, but after six months the war in Afghanistan is growing. Isis is slowly retreating from
Iraq, but they are moving into other parts of the world. Now Trump is blaming our Generals
for failing to get the job done. As usual Trump never takes responsibility for anything.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 08, 2017, 01:01:31 pm
Trump day 200
Our man Trump was giving his vice president a warning to stay
loyal. Seems the VP is doing a bit of politics on the side. Perhaps
thinking Trump might be damaged goods by 2020. So why not be prepared
to run for president just in case. The VP claimed no such thing, but
he didn't deny he was out raising campaign money in Iowa.

One serious problem I see with Trump is his attention span. It has been
reported it's about 2 minutes. People around Trump are thinking about
makeing videos for Trump to watch since he has trouble concentrating
long enough to read one page of a report. Trump claims to be so smart,
but he can't follow a report from his security people, or the military.
Trumps at the age some people start having problems remembering or
concentrating very long. So it is possible he is suffering from mental
loss, and his family and the GOP are keeping it hidden from the public.
He could still function pretty well with assistance, but if his attention
span gets much shorter it will be hard to cover up. Other presidents have
had problems. Even Ronald Reagan was known to fall asleep during the day.

Trump is doing his best to call his vacation a working vacation. What
he calls work and real work isn't likely the same.

Trump seems to  be preparing his base by saying the Democrats are out to
get him over the Russian connection. So if and when charges are brought
against him he can say. I told you they were out to get me. This will
likely work for a fair percentage of his base, but I am sure moany wants
the truth to come out.

Trumps new chief of staff seems to be doing a good job, but he isn't doing
well keeping Trump off of tweeter. Lots of tweets coming down the pike. Some
of his base feel Trump should give his phone a toss, and work on his promisses.

Trump wants to hire 70 foreign workers for his resort in Florida for the
winter season. I wonder if his supporters like this. After all Trump has
said we need to hire american workers. So why isn't he doing it? He
claims he can't find workers. He did put a advertisment in a local
paper. The ad was in tiny print. You suppose he is looking for
people with extra sharp vision? Or was it so local people wouldn't
see it?

Trumps washington DC hotel is making money from lobbyists and foreign
people, corporate leaders. GOP members, ect. Trump is making a lot of
money providing rooms and large dinners and such. It's ok to make money,
but this just another case of Trump using the office of the president to
make money. Some is likely against the constitution.. Trump isn't in
the habit of following rules if there is money to be made.

GOP
there are a few in the GOP that are joining the Democrats to  protect the
special council Muller that is investigating Trump and his campaign.

The GOP says it's going to work on tax reform when they come back in
september. I wonder what happened to infrastructure? They have to pass a
new budget and raise the national debt ceiling as well. Seems they have a lot to
do in a short time.

Democrats.
Our friendly democrats need to get out and make sure they have good people
running for office. Not just getting people out to vote.

GOP is against workers having Unions.
Democrats favor workers Unions.
GOP is against raising the minimum wage.
Democrats favor it.
GOP is for cutting taxes for the rich and big
business.
Democrats are not.
GOP is for removing regulations that protect the environment so
big business can make more money
Democrats do not.
GOP is working to restrict voting
Democrats are not.
GOP doesn't want to help people get a college educations.
Democrats want to help.
GOP doesn't want people to have the right to health care.
Democrats think people should have the right to health care.

This is just a few things that seperates the two parties. The
democrats need to make sure the public knows where they
stand compared to the GOP.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 09, 2017, 12:42:36 pm
Trump day 201
Our man Trump put N. Korea on notice. Saying he won't stand for
more threats. Now N. Korea has threatened Guam. An American
territory in the pacific ocean. It would appear N;. Korea is
calling Trumps bluff. I hope it was a bluff. If Trump was to
attack N. Korea before they actually attack us. How will the
world look at the USA for causing the deaths of Millions?

It's not likely N. Korea will actually attack first unless
the leader has a death wish. The problem is saber rattling
and brinkmanship could lead to an mistake. Once the first
shot is fired it's almost impossible to stop. Especially
when both sides have inexperienced leaders. N. Korea and
the USA with Trump. Will the American people stand by Trump
if a war is started by Trump? Or will  the name Trump go
down in disgrace along with the USA for starting a war
that kills millions.

I hope Trump isn't trying to impress his voting
base by threatening N. Korea.

I hope our military refuses to start a war unless it's
in response to an attack. Trump is unpredictable, and
he should be checked if need be.



The Trump campaign has been turning over thousands
of papers to congress. I wonder if any are missing?
Only time will tell.

There is an report that Trump is thinking about changing to a hired
army to replace our military in Afghanistan. I don't know how serious
this is, but it would be something Trump might like since he thinks
people will do anything for money.

I hope cooler heads prevail. Bombs rarely solve problems in
the long run. It usually causes more trouble than not.

With a state department cut to the bone and a president
who thinks force wins over diplomacy. Who knows where
all this will end up.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 10, 2017, 12:43:48 pm
Trump day 202
Our man Trump made a speech about the Opioide crisis in our country.
Would you believe he said "Just say no" Now isn't that bright of him.
People get on Opioids via prescription for pain. They don't decide to
start using this highly addictive drug for fun. Doctors need to not give
a big prescription for pain that isn't likely to last more than a few
days. I can't point to anyone, but in the past Doctors have been known
to get kick backs from drug makers if they will prescribe a drug. It
is possible this might be going on. Drug companies make a lot of money
with the sale of Opioids.

Trump again acts like he knows it all. Instead of just making an off
the cuff speech, he should have his staff work up a speech that makes
good sense for a change.

The FBI did a raid on one of Trumps campaign managers in July. Apparently
looking for evidence of wrong doing. To do this a federal judge had to
sign off on it. A judge requires very good reason to grant a warrent for
search and seizure acts by authorities. This man has ties to pro Russian
people. Possible money ties as well.

There were reports that N Korea has managed to size down their nukes
enough to be carried on their missiles. This report is a bit uncertain
at this time, but enough to get the attention of the defense department.

Trump doesn't have to tell N Korea we can turn their country into bouncing
rubble. They know that, it's best to let them know life will be tough on
them if they continue to build up a threat to the USA. If they wish to
discontinue the threat we would be willing to help improve their economy.
There is a report N Korea has been experimenting with private enterprise.
It would nice to see them move toward one like China, and forget about
trying to be a world power, of which there is little advantage. They
would do much better selling us things we don't need. Much as China does.

Trump continues to tweet, even more while on his vacation. Can't leave it
to the news. He claims he and Paul Manafort are at war now.. I guess he is
worried his old campaign managers troubles might rub off on him.

N Korea   claims they will fire four misiles at Guam. Not
to hit it, but apparently to show they can. Will this start
us toward war? Only Trump and those in power can say.
What if one accidentally lands on Guam? This kind of thing
is dangerous, and we know Trump never backs down or
admits making a mistake. So war may be inevitable unless
someone says No to Trump. Will Trumps generals follow
Trump in lock step into war? I wish we had some Generals
from WWII. They would know what kind of mayhem war with
N Korea would cause.  Only time will tell.

During the 1990's the Clinton administration had some
success stopping N Korea moving to have Nukes, but when
president Bush took over he decided to give up on it because
of some cheating and wanted to change the N Korean government.
Moving away from a diplomatic solution. When people don't
talk trust goes away and problems grow.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 11, 2017, 11:50:29 am
Trump day 203
Our man Trump is complaining that congress isn't doing it's job. He is bad
mouthing the leader of the senate. Now I am no fan of the GOP leader of the
senate, but Trump needs his good graces to get anything he wants done. So
Trump is hurting his self with these comments.

Trump continues to spar with N Korea. It's typical of Trump to repeat
his self once he gets on a subject of any kind. In this case it's putting
us and our allies in the far east in danger. If Trump doesn't understand
what is needed to really fight a war, then we are facing a lot of trouble.

It could be he is depending on the Generals to take care of the details, but
it takes time to get troops and material into the area. I hope the military
tells him he can't just fight a war only with missiles and bombs.

We may know where all of N Korea's launch sites are, but what happens
after we knock them out? N Korea has a lot of mobile missiles that
can reach S Korea, Japan, and Guam. If we miss a ICBM site we might
have one coming toward the USA mainland. Our missile defense isn't
perfect. Who knows where all their ships and submarines are? We have
a very powerful military, but I fear Trump hasn't any idea how to
handle a war if he starts one. I imagine if he does he will
be blaming everyone but his self for all the deaths.

Trump thanked Putin for removing over 700 american diplomats.
He made out like it saved our government money. Well those
diplomats still work for the government until Trump or the secretary
of State's fire or affect employment of diplomats. Makes one wonder
if Trump is Putins puppet, or just crazy. I remember  during one of
the debates. Clinten inferred that Trump could be a puppet. That
got to Trump. Is it because he knows he has to be nice to Russia?
Only time will tell.

I think it's time congress removes Trump from office for national
security reasons. At least till his mental health can be determined.
The VP is a government professional who isn't likely to drag us into
a war to save face. Trump is dragging the country down
instead of making it great again.

I am sure Trump and his base would make a big fuss, but temporarily
removing removing a president for the purpose of checking to see if a
president is mentally or physically  competent is constitutional.

Trump isn't another Hitler, but like Hitler Trump seems to think he is
smarter than the military. This is one reason Germany and their allies
lost WWII.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 12, 2017, 12:26:21 pm
Trump day 204
Our man Trump continues to spar with N Korea as he has for the
last four days. Trump said "Lock n load" We are ready to respond.
Well the military is generally always ready to defend the country.
The plan to attack missile sites from bombers over the ocean may
not keep N Korea from deciding to attack our base in S Korea.

If missiles are fired toward Guam and land in international waters,
will Trump call it an attack? Or only if they land in territorial waters?
What if they just splash down with no blast? So many unknowns.
They may or may not be armed. We wouldn't knowtill after they splash
down or blow up.


Not only that Trump imploded we might send troops to Venezuela. This is
probably just Trump making noise, but he doesn't seem to understand
when the US president speaks the world listens.


All you nationalists out there take note. Trump seems to think the military
is the best way to solve a problem. I wonder how well Trumps poll numbers
do when a lot of body bags start coming home? Trump should always use
deplomacy first, but it seems to not believe in it. Seems ever since the
report N Korea was able to miniturize a bomb Trump has increased his
rhetoric. Last week the UN passed some tough sanctionsagainst N Korea.
 Trump should have called this a win, but he seems to have ignored it.


Trump may be offering a cabinet position to a democrat senator from
W Virginia. If this is true the govenor of W Virgina would replace the
seat with someone from the GOP to replace him. This would give the
GOP another vote in the Senate. I would hope the senator declines
the offer. He should know what Trump is up to with this manuver.
Trump will likely come up with an excuse to fire him soon after anyway.

If Trump pulls this off he will likely say to the leader of the senate.
"There I got you another GOP vote. Now let's do Obamacare remove
and replace again." Time will tell. It seems Trump is out to undo
everything Obama did while he president. No matter who it hurts.

Will Trump speak out against racism and fascism in our country?
He needs to clean the Far Right from his administration. To show
he doesn't approve of violence by fascist organizations in this
country. Not just say it, but work to stop it. It will be interesting
to see if the justice department and FBI do anything about it.

If they don't I fear it will grow and spread across the country.
It's things like this that spread across Germany in the early
1930's. I think we know how that worked out for their country.

If people want to keep confederate historical items
protected. They should set up museums, and cemeteries
to honer those who died for their beliefs. It should be
left to history where it belongs.

The GOP needs to show they are a party of justice
and stand by the constitution. Otherwise they could
find them selves tied to the far right and their activites.







Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 13, 2017, 12:20:39 pm
Trump day 205 
President Trump comments about the demonstration and violence that
occurred in Virginia. For the most part his comments were appropriate.
But instead  of denouncing the hate groups that attacked clergy and 
other peaceful protesters there. Trump implied all groups were equally
guilty over the years. Trump should have called out the White supremacists
for being Terrorists. After attacking clergy with brass knuckles, clubs, and
bottles of liquid. Lined up with guns as if they were soldiers of an army.
If it had been a Muslim group it's likely he would have called out the
national guard. As it was he called them all bad people.

Trump has a history of racisim, so it's not too surprising he would
 imply minorities would be guilty of racial violence. There are trouble
makers in all groups, but the white supremacists have a history about
hating those they don't like. If he wants to prove he isn't a racist let
him fire Bannon, and other Alt Right supporters in his administration.

Trump isn't likely to do much of anything about the Alt Right. They gave
him untold thousands of votes that helped put him in the white house.
So he isn't likely to do anything to turn them against him.

Trump claims he supports those in the military, but he hasn't said a word
about veterans who have been attacked by white supremacist followers.

How come Trump hasn't called for the justest department to go after the
guilty parties in Virginia? How come the new Attorney General of the US
who has been pushing law and order seems to be looking the other way
except to agree with Trumps comments. He is saying now he will look
into the possibility of hate crimes by those in Virginia.

I think the police should have stood between the groups in Virginia when
the attacks started. Instead they stood back waiting for riot squads. It
seems they were afraid of getting hurt. Well getting hurt is always a
possibility for a policeman. I think the police is trained to protect the public
first and them selves second. I could be wrong though. It is possible they
were told to stand back. It should be investigated, seems when minorities
riot the police is out in force,  so why not when whites riot?

When our country was founded,  they stood up for the rights of the people. If
we fail to do the same our country can fall to those who use hate and violence
to control us all.

For more information about the Virginia attack go to
www.msnbc.com   Or any other major news outlet.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 14, 2017, 12:58:33 pm
Trump day 206
President Trump still hasn't spoken out against hate groups by name or the
leaders of them by name. In the past Trump has tried to side step comment
about hate groups. He speaks out against Muslims, and immigrants, but he fails
to be specific with hate groups. Seems Trump wants the support of hate groups.
To get their votes. During the campaign it was hard to get even a weak condemnation
from Trump of those who hate minorities, jews, and the LGBT community.

The attorney general is speaking out now, but in the past he didn't vote to  curb
hate groups when he was in the senate. He and Trump call for law and order, but
they look the other way for most hate crimes.

I commend the GOP for speaking out against these hate groups, but will they
still stand against hate when this attack is forgotten.? If they continue to
support and vote to put people in power that won't promise to stand
hate. Nothing will change. The New GOP isn't doing a good job when it comes
to protecting, women, minorities, or the LGBT. This needs to be changed or
there will be more problems in the future.

Trump has cut funding for agencies that have worked against terrorists in
our own country. Instead he has been pushing to watch Muslim Americans.

Even if Trump comes out and names hate groups and those involved after
waiting two days. If nothing changes it won't mean much. He needs to
support voting rights, and the rights of minorities.


All this has pushed the Korean problem to the background, but it's still there.
We can only hope cooler heads will find a solution.

Better late than never.
Trump did make a speech naming some hate groups, but no individuals
who lead them. He didn't denounce their approval of him. He didn't say
"I don't want their support or votes.." Trump knows who they are. It's
time the government holds these people and their groups accountable.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 15, 2017, 01:00:18 pm
Trump day 207
President Trumps ex chief of staff is to be questioned
by the special council. A man who likely knows most of
Trumps political activities over the past year. This may
cause Trump some worries.

Also his son n law may have some financial troubles for
Trump to worry about as well. Yes it's the special council
looking for dirty money.

Trump is considering using his power to pardon for a sheriff
that ignored a federal judge. Trump calls him a great man
because he was looking for illegal immigrants in a way he
was told not to.

I wonder how often Trump plans to use his power to
pardon between now and when he leaves office? I think
he still thinks he can pardon his self, and I am sure
he would pardon family, or loyal friends. Only time
will tell.

Today two CEO's resigned from Trumps manufacturing council
today because Trump didn't come down against hate the way
they felt he should.. One was a black man, and one was a
white man. Trump didn't wait two days to repsond. He blasted
the black CEO, never said a word to the white CEO. Rather
odd for someone who claims he isn't a racist. A third CEO left
later. Trump set up this council to lower drug costs. It's doubtful
he cares how much we pay for medicine. Rich people rarely care
about such things unless they can benifit from it.



We must look carefully at our politicians in 2018 to see
who or what they support. If we don't stand up against the
hate in our country. It will consume us.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 16, 2017, 12:11:35 pm
Trump day 208
I was surprised at Trumps news conference, and that is saying a lot.

President Trump made statements that bring shame on him and the
GOP by showing support for hate groups. Saying both sides act the
same is a lie. Trump says people on both sides who do bad things.
But I see hate groups working toward making the country white,
nationalistic, with only the protestant christian religion. They use
violence trying to get their way when they don't have the votes for
it. There is evidence they want to  start a race war in our country.
They believe in seperation of the races. Not together.

Where as the opposition wants religious freedom, voting rights,
civil rights, LGBT, and womens rights. They don't use violence,
even in the 1960's when some were pushing to use violence
leaders like Martin Luther King called for peaceful protests, and
many people were injured by police, and by hate groups, but they
still peacefully protested in the vast majority of cases. Sometimes
they use civil disabeadiance, but it's still with aims to be peaceful.

I know times during demonstrations there are fires set, and looting, along
with some violence, but it's by people trying to stir up trouble, not protesters
I sometimes wonder if they are hired to cause problems, and to make the protestors look bad. I get this impression because many times it's the
same people showing up that cause trouble. They probably know when
damage and violence is done they will loose support from the public.

Trump lied when he said the groups pushing to keep Lee's statue was
quietly marching. They were loud and rude. Also carrying baseball bats,
and some were wearing Trumps Make America Great hats. The fight broke
out the next day when they started to attck the clergy, and other peaceful protesters. Mainly to protect them from that attack. Trump should have told
them to not wear his Make America Graet hats period.

I think Trump did this trying to keep the suport of the hate groups.
Trump didn't call it American Terrorisim which it is, or make a statement
of support for those who were injured. Trump is about Trump, he will do
what it takes to stay in power or make money as president, no matter
who it hurts.

Where will the GOP stand on this? Will they just talk about how bad
this is. Then turn around and continue as before? They risk distruction
of the GOP if they ignore Trumps racist and unconstitutional activities.
Already in the GOP are saying how much they are against hate, but
not calling out Trump for his support of it. It's up to we the voter to
show them the error of their ways.

For more information go to www.msnbc.com  or other major news
outlets. I noticed even Fox news has been against Trump lately.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 17, 2017, 12:58:13 pm
Trump day 209
President Trump discontinued the manufacturing council. A group
Trump bragged about to create jobs. Apparently everyone was in
the process of resigning, and Trump didn't want the embarrassment
of watching his council die away because of his support of hate
groups. Saying there are fine people in them.

I am rather surprised he hasn't had some resignations of white
house staff over his comments. But there is a report Trump had
been saying this stuff off the record. So perhaps they are only
surprised he said it on TV.

The chiefs of staff from the military branches all said they
stand against any and all hate. This could cause Trump some
consternation since he is the commander in chief, and probably
thinks they should toe any mark he makes.

Trump cries about the media telling fake news, but they mainly
report his own tweets, and statements. The vast majority of his
troubles are self inflicted. He still seems to think he is some
kind of an authoritarian who can command all those in the
government. This will cause him nothing but trouble. Presidents
have a hard time as is without trying to be a tin placed dictator.
In Trumps case that would be gold.

Will congress censure Trump over his support of hate? I will be
surprised if they do even this much. It's time those in congress
think more about the country than their job in congress. Stand
up to prove they mean what they claim, and impeach this president.
Along with the VP if he continues to support Trumps stand on hate.

Confederate statues, monuments, and symbols acrpss tje south are
being removed or likely will be in the future. I am sure this will
cause more trouble. Though I am sure many people feel it's part
of history, and should be maintained. Trouble is they are a symbol
of hate and racism to many more people.

If Trump didn't have enough trouble, he is standing with those who
think the symbols of the confederacy should stay. Then compare
those monuments to those in Washington DC. It turns out there
are about a dozen statues to confederate men in the us capital
building. Sent by states that felt they were representative of their
state. I have a hunch these will go as well. Using a confederate
leader representing a state was likely a protest at the time.

A bit of history.
The civil war ended with a lot of hate in our country. Unfortunately
some people can't  let it go. During reconstruction the US government
forced the states of the confederacy to let ex slaves vote. Several
became representatives of state government and a few in the
federal government. When reconstruction ended the feds
(carpet baggars) as some were called, left. Black people were
were kept from voting, tossed out, intimidated, hung, or tossed in
jail by the white supremacists and KKK, or those who supported
them.. They are the ones who put up monuments in protest of the
(North) US government. Trump should be helping to heal the
country, not pushing us to support the past.

It's time we put this hate behind us, and bring our
country together. The GOP claims to be the party
of Lincoln. Let them prove it.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 18, 2017, 11:57:59 am
Trump day 210
President Trump is attacking members of the GOP. This
will likely add to his troubles. He needs good relations
with the house and senate to get his agenda passed.

The GOP doesn't have much time to pass a increase
in the national debt, and a new budget. If they don't
the government will have to shut down. Not raising the
debt ceiling would likely cause the US credit rating to
drop, and cause intest on the national debt to rise.
If they spend time trying to pass a tax cut, or try to
remove the ACA again or pass an infrastructure bill.
They will likely run out of time.

Some of this will require help from the democrats. So
the GOP can't tack stuff on without approval by the
democrats. I have heard the GOP wanted to put some
things in to favor big business at the expense of tax
payers. I don't think the democrats will go along without
some comprimises.

Trump may not want to compromise, so things could get
tricky, and a lot of government workers could be on unpaid
leave. I am sure the GOP will try to blaime the democrats,
but the GOP owns the government and should be able to
keep everything running smoothly instead of blaiming others
for their troubles.

Already there is talk of a presidential primary in 2019. Where the GOP may try
to run someone against Trump if he is still president.

Reports are flying that the Trump administration is considering hiring a
private army to fight in Afghanistan. That might get sticky since a private
army might not worry about killing civilians, or bombing hospitals going
after the bad guys. That would likely make us look bad since the army would
be working for us. Time will tell.

The Russian connection is still going strong. I wonder how long Trump will
be able to watch while his finances are being looked at. Trump has done some
things in the past I am sure he wouldn't want made public. Before it's over
we could be saying Crooked Trump instead of president Trump.

The vice president is returning from a trip to south America early to be at a
meeting at camp David about Afghanistan. One wonders why the VP had to
cut a  trip short just for a meeting he wouldn't likely have much say in.
Time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on August 18, 2017, 01:12:46 pm
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STEVE BANNON IS OUT!  :D  :D :D  :D  :D
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Guess when Trump mentioned about "draining the swamp" in Washington D.C., he didn't realise it would be his own staff! LOL!  :D  :D  :D

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 19, 2017, 12:25:28 pm
Yes Kobuk, Bannon is out, but I wonder if Trump will still call him
as he has Flynn. Or is it war between the agenda of Trump and
the agenda of Bannon? Reports say Bannon feels Trump has lost his
agenda/promise to his voters. Now we will see if President
Trumps thin skin can handle Bannons message.

Trump day 211
President Trump apparently decided to have his chief of
staff fire Bannon. Mr Alt Right his self. I wonder if
this will make any change by Trump. It's hard to say.

Bannon may take some of Trumps support away from
him. His politics are more in line with White Nationalists
than most of the GOP is. He has a billionaire to pay for
Bannons costs to spread his words which may conflict
with Trump.

Reports say Bannon is already saying Trump is working with
Globalists and must return to nationalism. Trump seems like a
Nationalist to me. Perhaps Bannon wants Nationalism to the
extreme.

Trump may still hold his voting base, but he is loosing big
business over this apparent support for hate groups.

If the GOP doesn't distance it's self from hate, and extremism
they will cease to  be a viable political party. Not just in their
words, but their actions.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 20, 2017, 12:46:05 pm
Trump Day 212
If President Trump continues to  say there are fine people in
hate groups, its likely he will loose support. Fine people wouldn't
give hate groups the time of day. Their whole ideaoligy is self
distructive. It goes against the human instinct to look after our
fellow man. We need each other, and to deny this leads to failure
eventually.

Its reported Bannon is working to have a network preaching
far right ideas. Likely to use hate and fear trying to grow support
for white nationalism.  We need to rember people like this twist
the ideas to make them look acceptable. Much like a cult does to
recrut people to their cause.

Communisum failed because it fails to recognise self need.
To succeed an ideaoligy must allow for the human psyche.
Not just self, want, hate, fear, or apathy but the whole thing.

Democracy is a fine ideaoligy, but if people sit back and let
others do the work. It will fall to those who think only of
them selves. It's a very small step to a society controlled
by the very rich. Look at Russia and it's oligarchs. In the
late 1800's the nation had to pass laws to limit the vary
rich. The monopolies they were creating were hurting
the working class and the national economy.

Today we have billionaires, and pople taking advantage of
the working poor wanting to be multi billionaires. Big
money is addictive, and I think as in the 1800's will have
to be regulated. A billion dollars is more money than
most people can get their head around, but those who
have it want more. I really think there is a race going
to see who is going to be the first Trillionaire. I lay odds
Russias Putin. I think he is currently at 200 billion.
We have 2 here in the USA pushing 90 billion in worth.

The business with removing confederate monuments is
becoming policitcal. I know many feel they are historical,
but their history is more about hate than the civil war. I
say put them in musems, and cemetaries with the rest of
the history about the civil war. If people feel these statues
are so important to history. Let's put up monuments to the
Union leaders and generals of the civil war.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 21, 2017, 11:13:09 am
Trump day 213
President Trump ran for president saying what he thinks. Or at least he claimed he did.
Trouble is saying what he personally thinks or what he thinks his suppporters want to
hear often does more harm than good. He needs to think about what's good for the country, not whats good for himself when he makes a speech. I know his supporters 
like his outspoken way, but his supporters are only  a manority, and to be a good
president he must support all of the people. Not just those who voted for him.

It appears Trump is pulling away from the GOP. His attacks on the GOP leadership
sure won't help his agenda. Perhaps he and Bannon are planing to create a new
party. I know Trump felt the GOP failed him by not replaceing the ACA. I wonder
what happens if the GOP fails to do tax reform, Trumps wall or infrastructure
this fall?

Trump and Bannon may think they can build enough support to start a new party,
but even the Reform party that started with Ross Paroh failed after 10 years.
It could be Trump thinks he can resurrect it. Time will tell.

This is speculation, but with Trump who can say.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on August 21, 2017, 06:05:02 pm
The stupidity of Trump knows no bounds.  >:(  :D
http://www.tmj4.com/news/eclipse/president-trump-used-naked-eyes-to-stare-into-solar-eclipse

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 22, 2017, 12:37:37 pm
Trump trying to see the eclipse without protection
is more about ignorance than being stupid. Trump
has a bad habit of thinking he knows it all. Which
is rather childish. Could be a sign of mental defect
as well.

Trump day 214
President Trump made a speech on the war in afganistan. Trump seems to
want to wear down the Taliban instead of defeating them or leaving. This
could drag out the war to who knows when. Trump also told Packastan they
need to stop giving aid and support of the Taliban or other terrorist groups.
I wonder how they respond to that? They provide paths to move materieals
into afganistan. Also he wants India to help, it's doubtful Packastand will like
India's military moving into satanist, or doing anything else for that matter.
Russia has been rearming the Taliban. I wonder why Trump didn't mention
that?

Trump said we should get out of afganistan during his campaign. Did his
generals talk him into attacking the Taliban again?  Who can say. I wonder
if Trump made this speech trying to change the subject with the media. I
mean he called the VP back early from a trip. The VP wouldn't have been on
a trip if this had been in planning for a while. Also the first part of
his speech was about how much he is against hate in the military
and country.

He didn't appoligize for saying there are fine people in the white
supremists, and other hate groups. This move to upgrade the war
afganistan could come back to bite Trump. Many of his supporters
want us out, not deeper into it.

At first Trump called the anti hate people that  protested
in Boston Anti police. Then changed his tweet to call the
protesters good. I wonder who got Trump to change it?
Trump should learn how to spell, or check his spelling
before posting tweets. To heal isn't spelled "Heel"

Trump is heading to Arizona on tuesday Aug 22 for a ralley.
I wonder if he follows his tele prompter or goes into Trump
mode to get cheers? Time will tell.

If there is a big anti Trump crowd outside the ralley for
Trump. It could be very combustible.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 23, 2017, 12:51:35 pm
Trump day 215
There is a report that president Trump called the leader
of the senate abpit why he wasn't protecting him (Trump)
from the Russian investigations in the senate. According to
reports the conversation was heated and filled with profanity
by Trump and the senate leader. This could add to Trumps
troubles as interference with the investigation. This time with
the senate.

Also there was an committee meeting that asked questions
from a man who wrote a dossier about the connnection with
the Trump campaign and the Russians. The meeting lasted
for 10 hours. It's possible a transcript of the meeting
may be made public. That hasn't been decided yet.

Here is something Trump supporters might like to know.. A
billionaire friend of Trump asked to to be given control of
carbon regulation for oil production. Just happened this
billionaire owns a oil refinery. By changing regulatory costs
his companies stock doubled in value. Netting the billionaire
hundreds of millions of dollars. Now the Trump administration.
is trying to cover for him. I wonder if Trump or his family
made any money over this?

Trump claimed he would shut down the government if the
democrats didn't support his boarder wall. Trump said Mexico
was paying for the wall. So why is Trump crying about the
democrats stopping the wall?  Trump should explain why
Mexico isn't going going to pay for it, and tell his supporters
he lied when he said Mexico was going to pay for it. If he does
shut the government down, I think it will hurt him and the GOP
much more that it will the democrats.

In his speech Trump spent a half hour blaming the media for all
his troubles. Troubles he has brought on his self. He also bad
mouthed GOP senators, and said he will work to defeat GOP
senators who don't give him their loyalty. Trump seems to think
all those in government should follow his every word or order.
This talk may make his supporters cheer, but it is a plan for
failure for his presidentcy.

Trump implied he would pardon the sheriff who was convicted
following a federal judges order. This man even lost his last
run for the office of sheriff. So most people didn't vote to keep
him in office. A pardon my hurt Trump in the long run.

In this speech once again Trump proves he thinks more of his
self than the country. He could have talked about others who
helped the country, and what people could do for the country.
Also to encourage our the people to come together instead of
dividing them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 24, 2017, 12:23:57 pm
Trump day 216
Seems Trump is moving on with the Transgender ban to
serve in the military. It seems it will start with not supplying
medical care, or medicine for said members. No info on how
current Transgender members will be handled. Mention was
made about readyness to serve. I would go to www.msnbc.com
for more info on this. Don't go on what I am saying. I have
a hunch it will change over time, but I wouldn't be surprised
if this is a first step to remove anyone in the LBGT community
from serving. Also possibly to return to the policy of not
letting women serve in combat. Only time will tell.

Trump spoke to the American legion today. Not one word
in condolance for the sailors lost in the navy ship
collisions. Little about Afghanistan. He did continue
to comment about how much he is against biggotry, but
he didn't appoligize for saying there were fine people
in the white suprimists,  or saying the protesters
being the same. Trump only cares about Trump.

He should have set his rally aside with respect of those
sailors lost instead, or at least made a public statement
of condolences for the families. I wonder if he has even
called the families to give his personal condolences?

Morality is beyond Trump. He has lived his whole life
for his self, and only his self. So he isn't going to
change. He will continue to lie and cheat to serve his
self and family over our country. I think his running to
be president was all about making money to enrich his
self and his family.  He charged charities tens of thousands
to use his name and facilities. Thats the mark  of a greedy
person if you ask me.

Trump and his family has cost tax payers over 100 million
because they won't limit their billionaire lifestyle. The secret
service has used up their entire budget for a year to cover
Trump and his family in 8 months due to all their travels and
property to protect. Shows you how unpatriotic they are. They
seem to think they deserve it. I remember the GOP complaining
because the clintons charged the secret service rent. That's
nothing compared to what Trumis charging the secret service
to protect his properties. Some will continue as long as he
and his wife lives. Think about this when you pay your
taxes. Gotta support that billionaire.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 25, 2017, 12:05:56 pm
Trump day 217
President Trump is looking into us mining Afganistan mineral resources
to help pay us to fignt their war. It seems we went there in the first
place to attack the Taliban. They didn't ask us to go there. So it seems
we shouldn't be charging them for something we are doing on our own.

Trump likes to brag about what he has done over the past 7 months. Well
here is a list of thing he has undone.He would likely call it done items.
 Click on the link to see the list. I would have posted it, but it's better
 to follow the link.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2157366-List-of-things-Trump-has-undone-or-done-since-Inauguration  (http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2157366-List-of-things-Trump-has-undone-or-done-since-Inauguration)

Most of these are to help big business make more money at
the expense of the inviroment, animals, and the health of
many people.

The investigation of the Trump campaign, and Trump trying to
stop it continues. Trump has been calling senators, giving them
the business because they aren't working to stop the Russian
investigation. Even complaining about a bill moving through
congress to keep him from firing special council. Seems Trump
will stop at nothing to keep his connection with Russia a secret.

Trump has the pardon in work for the Arizona Sheriff that ignored
a federal judge. I understand it only waits for Trumps signature. One
might wonder how many people Trump will end up giving a pardon to.
Only time will tell.


Trumps response to hurricane Harvey looks good so far.  I imagine
he will use this opportunity to make his self look good. So  we will
likely see a lot of federal aid this go around. Trump aside I hope
the storm doesn't cause a lot of damage or loss of life. I fear many
people will suffer a lot of flooding.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 26, 2017, 12:24:42 pm
Trump day 218
President Trump did pardon the Arizona sheriff who was convicted of
breaking the law. This appears to be a political decision by Trump.
Perhaps Trump is planning to pardon more if family or friends are
found to have broken the law. Trump seems to think he can pardon
his self. This may have to be decided by the supreme court.

The pardon power of the president wasn't made to give a president
power to protect law breakers for his/her benefit, but to help heal
situations where people broke laws defending perceived rights. Then
only if they show remorse. Trump seems to think it gives him the
right to protect loyal friends, and family from the law. Just shows
Trump has no business being president. A man who appears to think
he and other very rich people should be above the law.

Also Trump signed orders to ban Transgender people from serving in
the military. Reports say he is leaving it up the secretary of defense
wither those in the military can stay or not over the next 6 months.

The big excuse for this is the claim that medical needs of Transgender
people are too costly. Well the truth is the so called normal people
in the military cost 5 times as much due to taking care of problems
with impotence of male soldiers. Viagra and other drugs for impotence
are very expensive.

One wonders if Trump made these two decisions with hurricane Harvey
hitting the Texas gulf coast so it wouldn't have top billing in the news
media. He has declared emergency status for the affected areas. That
is good at least.

The hurricane may sit and rain for the next 5 days. If it does there will
be record rains for south eastern Texas. It could slide east where it may
cause more flooding in Louisiana. We hope the storm fades much sooner
than prodected.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 27, 2017, 12:32:30 pm
Trump day 219
President Trump is flying again. Traveling the country to promote
his tax bill. Tax cut for the big corporations and the rich. I doubt if he
mentions that  part of it. Big corportations pay little taxes anyway, using
every loop hole they can find. Just like Trump does. One part of his
tax cut will save him millions.

Hurricane Harvey will cost the government billions, and he wants
a tax cut? The GOP is always complaining democrats tax and spend.
This is going to be a spend to help people who need it. Trump wants
a wall that will likely cost 100 billion, and increases for the military. So
cutting taxes though popular isn't always wise, especially with the
extra spending. Trump complained about how big the debt is and
wants to cut taxes?  The GOP claims it will help expand the economy,
but that has yet to be proved. In the past it just helps the rich get richer
and the working class gets poorer. The GOP wants to take  food from the
mouths of children, and  health care for the poor so they can cut taxes
for their rich supporters.

Trump is tweeting all is going well with support for victims
of Harvey in Texas. It's still early, and I don't think all is
going well, just as well as possible. How will the support
be in a month or two? There are going to be a lot of small
communities needing help. Unlike the big cities they won't
give Trump much to showboat about.

Trumps pardon of a man who defied a federal judge shows he doesn't
respect the rule of law. How about other law enforcement officers?
Will they defy judges and look to Trump to defend them? Trump claims
to be for law and order, but it looks like that was another lie.

If the special council finds many of Trumps people guilty, will
Trump pardon them? Will the people look at that and say Trump
did a good thing?  I hope not. If our government doesn't hold
people accountable for breaking the law, who will?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 28, 2017, 11:57:26 am
Trump day 220
President Trump knew when he went to Camp David for the weekend
hurricane Harvey was moving toward the Texas gulf coast.  He should
have stayed at the white house. Now I know he can do his job from
there, but it made it look like he was more interested in having a fun
weekend than staying in the white house to monitor this hurricane, and
the problems  it's causing.

It's just more proof that Trump thinks more of his self than
the people of our country. Yes he is monitoring the storm, and
it's affects to Texas, but I figure it's more about looking good than
real concern for the people. If I was in the flood area, I would be
thanking President Trump for any help. Still the proof will be how
the people get help from Trump and the GOP over the months/years
ahead.

Politicans are always on hand at the time of a disaster, but
after it leaves the news they generally loose interest. I am
sure with Trump and the GOP they will be worried more about
getting their agenda passed than the good people of Texas
in a few months. Of course with primaries coming in the
spring the affected  districts will get attention from their
representatives.

Not much else in the news except for the storm in Texas.
I wish them all the best. More than the "Good Luck" from
Trump. No shame from this president though.  :P  You can be
sure if something goes wrong it won't be his fault.

I hope immigration doesn't use this storm to catch illegal aliens
in shelters. With Trump anything is possible.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 29, 2017, 01:18:41 pm
Trump day 221
It appears Trump was trying to build s Trump Tower in Moscow
Russia during his campaign for president. He signed a letter of
intent in October of 2015. He has claimed over and over that
he has no business with Russia. Or trying to do business there.
Now it's not illegal trying to do business in another country,
but why does Trump keep denying he has business interests in
Russia? This doesn't include the millions the Trumps have barrowed
from Russian banks.

Could this be why he never saying anything against Putin? It has
been reported Trumps wife was invited to sit in Putins office chair.
Seems to me the Trumps are closer to the Russian leadership than Trump
wants to admit. I think we can be sure Trump is always after a dollar.
Even if it hurts our country.

Trump threatened to shut down the government if congress fails to
fund his wall with Mexico. Well if he does it will discontinue any
help the people of Texas get from the government. It's likely those
in congress will combine an increase of the national debit with aid to
the Texas recovery. It is the habit of congress to add pork spending
to emergency funding. If they do it could slow any passage of funds
for the Texas disaster. It's not uncomon over the last dozen years
for congress to spend monnths providing funds for desasters. In 2005
the VP and other GOP congressmen decided not to automatically fund
disasters without cutting government programs. They didn't get their
way, but it did result in slowing funding for disasters since then.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 30, 2017, 12:00:22 pm
Trump day 222
President Trump was in the affected area of Texas. He as most
politicians talked about how bad it is and how strong the people
are in the face of a disaster. Then in the face of a large
friendly crowd he basically started a campaign style speech.
Trump will never change, and will say anything trying to make
his self look like a winner. Even in front of desperate people.

Trump wasn't happy with how his Rally in Phoenix went. Some seats
were shown to be empty. Trump claimed there wasn't many protesters
outside which was a lie he told the crowd. Trump was so upset after
the Rally he fired a man who had been setting up rallies for Trump
almost from the beginning.

For the sake of the people in Texas, I hope Trump doesn't start
playing politics with the help they need. Agendas that Trump and
the GOP want passed can wait. The people of our country should
take prescience  over any politicians agenda.

Congress has a lot on it's plate for September, and Hurricane
Harvey just added more to it. Trump was saying he would shut
the government down if he didn't get money for his wall. So it
will be interesting to see how things go over the next 4 weeks
in the nations capital. I think Trump could have helped his self
a lot by saying forget the wall, the people in Texas need the
money for recovery. It would be the first decent thing he has
done as president if he did.

I do commend the government for sending naval helicopters to help
with the rescue. I hope more military resourses are used since there
are thousands who are still in dire need of help. If I was president
I would be pushing to give them all the help our government could
provide. Trouble is Trump is not a person who cares about people
except for their votes. As a very rich man he basically lives in an
Ivory tower where he lived without want. He sat up a charitable
 foundation, then used it to pay is own expenses.

The hat Trump was wearing is on his campaign website offering
it for forty dollars. Not to  help the people in Texas, but to help
pay his bills for his political campaign. The hat offered may only
be a copy of the one he wore.  Trump should be asking people to
give to a charity for the people in Texas instead of his campaign.
Trump is a billionaire. He could make a sizable donation his self.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 31, 2017, 11:53:57 am
Trump day 223
President Trump made a speech in Missouri today about his desire to
change the tax laws in our country. The problem I saw was he had no
details other than a few figures, and claims the GOP make about tax
reduction. The last tax cut did more to make rich people richer than
making jobs or helping the middle class. Over the las 30 years since
the last tax cut the middle class has lost real spending power while
the top 5 percent has gotten a lot richer. Now Trump and the GOP want
to repeat it. As if billionaires need more money.

Trump claimed corporate taxes should be lowered. They only pay an
effective 2 percent, not 35 percent, or the 15 percent Trump talked
about. The tax cut is for rich people not the working class. Trump
and the GOP lie every time they talk about taxes.

He didn't mention the 21 deaths in Texas during his speech. The only
words he did make about Texas was written for him. Trump just hasn't
the empathy to speak or care for others. Telling the Coast Guard, Navy,
Army, and Air Force to help with the evacuation of the flooded areas is
the easy part. and I commend him for that. The hard part will be the
recovery which will take months and years.

Trump still hasn't filled many government jobs even after 7 months in
office. He also wanted to cut a billion dollars from disaster aid to
help pay for his wall. I wonder how far that goes?

The special council investigating the Russian connection with the
Trump campaign is working with the attorney general of New York state.
Possibly to prosecute some of Trumps people under state law. Trump
couldn't Pardon a person prosecuted by state courts. I have a hunch
Trump is throwing things at his lawyers. Or wants to.. Trump had planned
to pardon his way out of trouble. This would stop this cold.

Trump says he will stand by Texas till they are taken care of. I have a
hunch when Texas is out of the nightly news Trump will move on without
the people of Texas or Louisianan.

Trumps son is going to be called up in front of a senate committee. Trump
called the chairman of that committee to talk about something one day
after it was announced his son would appear. Somehow I think Trump was
wanting something more than the time of day.

GOP
Our friendly GOP have plans to cut funding to government disaster aid.
Possibly in the near future. Also to cut funding for flood insurance.
I am sure funding for the Texas disaster is going to be up front when
congress comes back next week. Back when New Jersey was hit by a storm
a few years back, GOP congressmen from Texas voted against giving them
enough aid for recovery. I wonder how they vote this go around?

It will be interesting to see if the GOP cares enough to give the people
of Texas the aid they need. If they don't the 2018 election may turn some
GOP smiles upside down.

I saw a report today where several rich people and corporations
were making sizable donations. One was $100,000.00.. Okay Trump
lets see you open your wallet if you care as much as you claim to.
It's likely he would use his foundation to send money. Only thing
Trump never put much if any of his own money in his foundation.

Last report 28 dead. It's very likely this will grow. Hopefully not
much if any.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 01, 2017, 12:12:05 pm
Trump day 224
President Trump claimed he is going to donate one million dollars
to help those in Texas after hearing others donating large sums. This
is only .001 percent of one of his billions, of which he claims to have
nine. It would be like a millionaire giving 100 dollars. In the past he
has promised to give money, but somehow forgets, or lets someone
else do it for him. Time will tell if he actually gives some of his personal
money to help the needs of the people of Texas. I have a hunch the
media will remind him if he doesn't.

The investigation by the special council continues. Trumps lawyers
are trying to say Trump wasn't guilty of obstructing Justice when he
fired the head of the FBI. Even though Trump said in an interview
he did it to stop the FBI's investigation of the Russian connection
with his campaign.

Trump is still wanting to get rid of the ACA. I am sure it's because
if they don't it will be very difficult to pass the tax cut he is wanting.
A cut that will likely save him millions. While millions of people
loose health care.

The State department has shut down 3 Russian controlled diplomatic
locations across the country. It didn't remove any Russian diplomats
though. I think Trump is trying to show he is pushing back without
doing anything of significance.

Trump new Chief of staff is getting under his skin. The isolation
General Kelly is doing to keep the white house staff from having easy
access isn't to Trumps liking.

Lately Trump and his cabinet seem to be disconnected to a
degree. Trump says one thing and those in the cabinet seem to
be saying something different. Time will tell how longTrump will let
this slide.

There is a report that council Muller has brought in the income
tax people to go over finances relative to the Russian connection.
Trump may not like his Taxes looked at.

Trump is planning to stop the Dreamer/DOCA program for illegal
aliens who were brought into the country  as young children. This
could affect almost a million kids and young people. Most are
going to school or working, and some are in the military. If
it's removed Trump said they could stay till their cards
expire. Then they must leave. There is a lot of objection
to this. Even among Trump supporters.

GOP
Reports are the GOP is hoping to get bi partisan support for a
budget with aid for Texas without funding for Trumps wall. Perhaps
just a boarder security package without the wall. Somehow I think
Trump isn't going to give up on his crazy wall. Walls do little to stop
people since the invention of gunpowder in the middle ages.  Drug
dealers could fly up to 50 pounds of drugs with commercially available
drones over a wall using a drone programed to land at a GPS location.
Or they could blow a hole in the wall. Or tunnel under it. A  2000
mile long wall would be a maintenance nightmare.  It would be better
to use electronic sensors to watch for people sneaking across the 
boarder. Even a wall will require sensors to detect damage or people
crossing it. Also a wall with Mexico won't stop drugs or aliens coming
in from the far east, like China and the Philippines to  name two.

Trumps wall is just showboat politics. A common sense idea without any
worth. An arcane method that will fail to control a long boarder.

The Vice president visited Texas, a man who wants to cut funding for
natural disasters.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 02, 2017, 12:04:32 pm
Trump day 225
President Trump claims he will make a decision on wither to keep DOCA or
not. He says it will be made on September 5. If he stops the program almost
a million young immigrants will face expulsion from the country. Over 90
percent of these people are productive and are not on any kind of government
aid like welfare. Many are college graduates, business owners, in the military,
and hard working people. If these people are removed it will cost the economy
many millions of dollars. DOCA members are right now helping people in the
storm ravaged areas of Texas and the gulf coast.

There are reports that Trump may hire a police cheif
 that was fired for improper use of his power. I hope
this isn't the case, but Trump seems to like police who
use excessive force and abuse against people they stop
or take to jail. It has been proven that treating people
without any respect causes more trouble than anything
else. People may be cowed at the moment, but will learn
to disrespect authority with mistreatment.

GOP
Will the GOP and Trump work to rebuild Texas? I think since
Texas is mainly a GOP red state. It's likely they will recieve
a lot of federal aid. When Hurricane Sandy hit the east coast
and did billions in damage to the mostly democrat state of
New Jersy. The GOP made excuses, and many people in New 
Jersy are still waiting for flood insurance checks and federal
aid. The GOP govenor was called out for not spending federal
aid properly. I have a hunch there will be many politicians making
sure their rich supporters get money first. The little guy will be
lucky to get aid months from now.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 03, 2017, 12:08:35 pm
Trump day 226
President Trump appeared at a Texas refugee center on saturday. He made
a good show of handing filled food plates to the people. Even to glad hand a
bit. Oh and he did hold a kid or two.  While doing this the was telling people
about all the help he was doing for the people of Texas, and how happy they
should be. Well Trump can't stand it. It always has to be about him, and how
much he is doing.  We should remember Trump is a professional actor. So he
knows how to smile and make a good show. Whet counts is the results, not
how many orders he signs. So lets see how he does in the future.

North Korea apparently detonated a Hydrogen bomb. Trump responded with some
tweets that I doubt helped anything. We need to put economic pressure on China to
get them to shut down their aid to N Korea. The leader of N Korea doesn't care
much about Trump tweets, but he would care if he lost trade and economic help
from China.

A letter Trump appearently dictated while waiting out a rainstorm at one of
his golf resorts showed up. It was about the directory of the FBI and mainly
a rant about him. The letter hasn't been released to the public yet, but bits of
of it have been reported. If the letter has Trumps own words it will be another
strike against him. Also it was reported the VP and  about everyone in the White
house read the letter. So when they backed Trump up when he lied about the
attorney general wanted the director of the FBI fired. This puts them all in legal
jeopardy of conspiring to obstruct justice, including the Vice President.

It would appear Trump not only has put his self in legal jeopardy, but almost
everyone in the white house too. At this rate Trump may get writing cramps
with all the partdons he will have to sign.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 04, 2017, 12:42:23 pm
Trump day 227
President Trump seems to live in a world of his own. He would do much better
if he worked to build his base of voters. Just playing to those who voted for him
is proof he is afraid to loose his voting base. Trouble is his voting base will not
get him re elected. He won't have Clinton to run against. She won't be there to
give people an excuse to vote for Trump because they didn't like Clinton. The
democrats will need to have a canidate who is clean to defeat Trump. Someone
Trump can't find real fault with. The GOP had been running Clinton down ever
since 2012 when they realized she was going to run in 2016, using millions in
tax payer dollars. Using an excuse they needed to investigate her activities while
she was the secretary of state. It's no wonder the public had a trust problem
with her.

We need to  get rid of these big money PACKs that spend millions to elect
people they want elected. This makes it impossible for good people to run
for office. Instead we get people who work for big business to get their
support.

I think we should limit any donation from any one person for any one
canidate to $100.00. Also people shouldn't be able to use their own
money to help keep rich people from controlling congress.

People should be elected because they are liked, not because they were
bought. Many felt Trump would be a good president because he couldn't
be bought. Well it turns out he can be. All someone needs is a bag of
money to get his ear. He has used the office of president to make millions
of dollars. So for Trump it's all about money, and pride. He was already
asking for money before the election. Anyone getting over 5 percent
in the election receives millions of tax payer dollars to help pay election
costs. I am sure Trump was glad to  receive this. Being a billionaire he
could have donated this money to help retired disabled Military people.
After all he brags on them all the time. Words are cheap mr President.

It will be interesting to  see if he stops DOCA. A program to help
kids who were brought to this country. Giving them a chance to
be americans other than being kicked out of the country. Most
immigrants are hard working people. As with all people there are
those who hold out their hand. But over 90% of the DOCA people
are working or going to school. They can't ask for government
aid, or they would be kicked out of the program.

It will be interesting to see what the GOP does over the next few
weeks. Time will tell if the GOP can do a good job when the chips
are down.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 05, 2017, 01:37:41 pm
Trump day 228.
President Trump tossed DOCA in the lap of congress. Now we can see if
the GOP will protect 800,000 kids that were brought to this country as
small kids or babies. Or will they toss them out where they have no where
to go. I think this is a slap in the face of our founders by Trump.
His excuse is that DOCA isn't legal.

Immigration has been a sore spot with the GOP for many years. They have
run for office with the promise to get rid of immigrants. People seem to
want to blaime immigrants for lost jobs, Or high taxes, or any other
problem that they face in life.

In reallity immigration has been the strength of our country. Immigrants
provided the man power for industry, for harvesting crops. Many have
been highly educated bringing technoligy to our counntry. It is true
some immigrants are guilty of crimes, but all races have a crimminal
element. So it's a poor excuse as most every excuse people use
against immigrants.

During the late 1800's we had a large number of Irish immigrants.
People complained then about immigration. In the late 1930's we
turned thosands away who ended up dieing in WWII because they
were Jewish. We should pass immigrationreform and be done with
it. Seems the GOP wants to play politics with it. This is shameful.
The religious right stands with the GOP. A party who hasa record of
turning their backs on the poor, and needy unless it's to their advatage
politically.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 06, 2017, 12:00:18 pm
Trump Day 229.
President Trump is calling for congress to  get busy, but
congress is going to be hard pressed to get things done
they have, much less the stuff Trump wants to please his
supporters and his rich friends.

There are reports that some in congress are trying to discredit
The Russian hacking. They are comming up with all kinds of
excuses to support Trump.  The GOP continues to impead the
investigation, and opposes the democrats when they try to get
relevent information. Unless the public pressures the GOP
to hold Trump and those involved accounatble. I think it will
be white washed by the GOP. The GOP would have likely done this
with President Nixon if it wasn't for public pressure.

I think Trump would like for N Korea to start something so
he could attack N Korea. Then brag about how how well he
planned a response. I hope I am wrong, but he continues
to push the N Korean leader into a corner. At some point
a mistake may be made and millions will die. Some will
be Americans too.

GOP
The GOP spent nearly 8 years running against Obama and the
democrats. They ran against anything that Obama touched. Now
that they have control they are finding out that legislating
is a lot harder than just saying "NO". The GOP is so divided
they will likely fail if they don't reach out to the democrats.

The GOP has a history of being against immigration into the
country. Epecially during the 1920's. They seemed to like
people from England, western Europe, and Scandinavia. For
some reason, which maybe due to a long boarder with Mexico.
Latino's seem to be especially disliked. Trump started his
campign running down immigrants from south of the boarder.
The DOCA program started by Obama because congress couldn't
decide on what to do with the children of illegal immigrants.
These children had no choice but to come with their parents.
The GOP with it's history of not liking immigrants couldn't
get togeather on the issue. President Reagan did give many
children of immigrants a path to citizenship, but the GOP
put an end to it.

DOCA despite the GOP's claims affects children of immigrants
from many countries. Not just hispanics. Trump wants a wall
with Mexico to stop drugs and immigrants. He doesn't mention
how many come here from south asia along with drugs.. Not
through Mexico, but by ship and aircraft. Neither of which
wiil be stopped by his stupid wall.

I have a hunch most of the DOCA people will move to Canada
if they are due to being deported to who knows where. This
will be a big loss for the USA and a big gain for Canada. Vancouver,
just north of Washingto state, has taken in thousands from Hong Kong,
when China regained possession from England. This shows how progressive
Canada is over the US, and has profited by it.

The new Hurricane that is predicted
to hit Florida by the end of the week.
I hope all our members are safe, along
with others in it's path.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 07, 2017, 11:51:45 am
Trump day 230
President Trump reached out to the dmocrats today, and agreed with
a 3 month extension on the debt ceiling. This caught the GOP off
guard. They were wanting a 18 month extension because they didn't
want to have to increase the debt with the 2018 mid term election
cloing in on them. The speaker of the house had the nerve to accuse
the democrats playing politics with the national debt. When the GOP
has been doing that for years.

Is Russias Putin outflanking Trump with his talks with Japan, China,
N Korea, and S Korea. He said he felt N Korea would set their arms
program on hold if the US, and S Korea would stop their military
exercises. Though I think this has been tried in the past, but
N Korea proceeds undercover. Though it probably wouldn't hurt
to back off to see if a deal could be struck. We could still
work to improve our missile defense.

Trump is pushing the GOP hard with complaints. How long will
they continue to support him. Trump might move away from the
GOP. Ever since they failed to deal with the ACA Trump has been
fussing at the GOP membership more than the democrats.

Trump ran as a great deal maker. To make good deals one has to
understand what they want first. Trump doesn't seem to know
much about details. Just outlines of ideas. It's no wonder he
hasn't had much success getting his agenda done. Seems like he
can't understand why the congressional GOP won't follow him
the way those at his rallies do.

GOP
Congress is working on releif funding for Texas. Of course it
appears Florida and the east coast may need billions in aid as
well. With all this expence the GOP is still wanting to cut taxes
for their rich supporters. I know they claim the cuts will allow
growth, and the government will get more in taxes. But it hasn't
proved to stimulate that much growth. The cuts during the Reagan
administration were much larger, so in  that case growth would
have been more. Even at that the rich gained much more than
the middle class did. Since then the  middle class hasn't gained
buying power the way they were during the years prior to the 
the Reagan cuts. Even at this the GOP loves to point to the Reagan
cuts as working proof.

It will surprise me if anything gets done about those affected by
DOCA.  Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 08, 2017, 11:36:51 am
Trump day 231
President Trumps son was questioned for 5 hours by staff in the
senate. Believe it or not he came up with a fourth story about the
meeting with 4 Russians at Trump Tower. For such a young
man he seemed to have memory loss too.. Perhaps it will come to
him next time he goes to congress. In case anyone forgot the meeting
was about getting dirt on Clinton from the Russians to help Trump
win the election. If Trumps son lied he will likely need a pardon
from daddy Trump.

The GOP is still smarting from Trumps desicsian to only extend the
debt ceiling for 3 months instead of the 18 months. Is this a one
time thing with Trump and the democrats? Only time will tell. The
Democrats should pressure Trump to work with them to pass DOCA while
he is in the mood.

GOP
Congress with the help of democrats are working to make over 15
billion dollars that Fima can use to aid the victims of Harvey and
Erma. At this time Fima is almost out of money. The speaker of the
house tried to push to cut foreign aid to help pay for this package.
This might seem like a good thing, but foreign aid saves us money
in the long run. If the speaker wants to save money vote for good
health care. When people put off going to the doctor that they can't
pay for, they end up being seriously ill and the costs skyrocket.

Also they could save the government money by regulating the drug
industry to lower drug costs that are currently over inflated. If
people can't afford their medicine they don't buy it or take it
like they should. There again people get seriously ill and the costs
skyrocket. If there isn't any way to pay doctors and or hospitals
they will go out of business. Many rural areas loose hospitals nad
have to travel long distance to see a doctor. If they can't they end
up needing high cost care.. The GOP is supposed to know what it takes
to have a strong economy then the do things that hurt the people of
small towns. It's the thousands of small towns that have all those
small businesses that make our economy. Instead they support a relatively
few big businesses who avoid paying taxes and go elsewhere to get cheap
labor.

All the best to all those affected by Harvey and Erma. I fear many more people
will be homeless after hurricane Erma is finished.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 09, 2017, 11:27:42 am
Trump day 232
Not a big day for politics with the Hurricane news.

The special council is planning to question several of Trumps white house staff
in the near future. He has called for the paper work and relevant data about
the Russian connection with Trumps campaign.  Now all these people nearly
went down on their knees giving their loyalty to Trump. Will they go to jail
to protect him? I have a hunch Trump has promised them a pardon if they
do. So time will tell how all this works out.

Florida's west coast may catch the brunt of the storm. Trump apparently is
fascinated by hurricanes because I heard a report he was giving it is full
attention. Now it's good he is keeping up with it. I just hope he isn't planning
to play politics with people's lives.

I wonder how much longer the GOP will continue to deny climate change? The guy
Trump picked for the EPA said this isn't the time to talk about climate change. So
when is a good time? The longer they wait the more it will cost in the future. I doubt
if the big business interests care how much our children will pay due to the continued
of fossil fuels, and the damage it's doing to  to our planet.

Again I wish all the best for those affected by both Harvey and Erma.. I understand
we have another following Erma. Hopefully it will turn north in to the mid atlantic
ocean.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 10, 2017, 12:26:27 pm
Trump day 233
President Trump is at Camp David while those in Texas and Florida are dealing
with a disaster. He ought to be at the white house in my opinon. Not cooling his
heels at a presidental hidaway.

I do give him credit for keeping up with the weather. I wonder if he would be
working as hard if the states affected had voted for H. Clinton. As it turns out
this is a fairly easy job for any president. In fact for Trump this might be the
one thing he has some experience with. Working with construction and housing
is right down his alley. Though his part was mostly walking around a construction
sites changing this and that. Something I have seen in my working lifetime.

If the people in the affected areas are happy with Fima this time next year. The
GOP and Trump will be doing pretty well politically. If they are not then they will
be in more trouble because of it. Even if they do well over the next month or
so. The GOP is going to have to spend about a half trillion dollars to repair all
the damage from the fires out west and the hurricanes.  I don't think the  GOP
will want to do that. They would rather give the money to their rich supporters
in tax cuts.  Time will tell.

A big reason there is so much damage with hurricanes is due to how real estate
people build housing. They buy land that can flood. Then build housing with
little  or no consideration for flooding. Cities should reqire housing to be high
enough to handle at least 500 year floods.  Troulbe is many politicians worry
more about staying in office than doing the right thing. So rich real estate dealers
and housing contractors support politicians that will let them build where in areas
that may flood , but not likely to.  It's all about making money, not to  benefit
the public.  Unfortuantly it's not likely to change.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 11, 2017, 12:49:59 pm
Trump day 234
President Trump spoke about the 911 Trade center attack.
Trump  did well representing the office of president speaking
about it today.

Personally I think he should have let the Vice president make
the speech. Trump should have been ashamed to show his face.
During his campaign he lied about the attack. He lied about  there
being thousands of Moslem cheering the collapse from New Jersey.
On the news at the time they mentioned a report of a few on a
building top having a party afterwards, not thousands. He lied when
he said he watched people jump to their deaths. Trump Tower is
too far away for him to see them. He lied when said he attended
funerals for friends he knew who died during the attack. It all
came down to the fact that he used this terrible event to benefit
his campaign.

It's just more proof Trump will use anyone or anything to benefit
himself. He should apologize, but I doubt if he has the morals
to even consider it.

Trump has been doing a good job with the disasters so far. I
commend him for it. Hopefully he and the GOP don't forget
about Puerto Rico. An island of american Citizens. A million
who have lost electrical power on the Island. Also the other
American island territories in the Caribbean.

The GOP has had a bad habit of ignoring the needs of these
island territories. Especially Puerto Rico. I noticed the Media
hasn't said much either. I did hear Fima is in Puerto Rico. I
hope they get the same help as any American should.

These Hurricanes show how much Climate Change can cause harm
to people and the economy. As the oceans become warmer the storms
witll be stronger, and larger.  The GOP is saying this isn't the time to talk
about  Climate Change.  That's the same as saying after a terriest attack
it's not time to talk about terrorisim. It's just an excuse to avoid an issue
their rich supporters don't want to deal with.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 12, 2017, 01:25:38 pm
Trump day 235
President Trump had the Russian ambassator in the Oval office of
the white house while hurricane Irma was bearing down on Florida.
We wouldn't know about it except the Russian media talked about it
with pictures even. After that the Trump administration admitted it.

You suppose it was timed so the US media would have it's attention
diverted with a hurricane?  Kind of looks that way. Guess Trump wanted
to show off the new decorations in the white house to the Russians.

Seems lots of lawyers are being hired by white house staff. Seems
several people in the white house want Trump to remove his son n law
out of the white house. It's doubtful that will heppen. I understand
Trump listens his advice, and has for years.

I understand Trump is going to the US Virgin Islands next week to look
at the damage. Reports are they are getting quite a bit of help from
Fima and the military. But it will take a long time to repair the damage
there. They are getting some help from big business, but it will take
months if not years to bring it back. These people are US citizens, so
they should get the same help as any American. Puerto Rico needs aid to
help repair their electrical infrastructure. They are US citizens as well.

I haven't heard how Trumps golf resort faired with Hurricane Irma. He might
not be staying there for a while. Bannan is still in the news. Saying he
is going to work to help elect conservative congressmen for Trump. He doesn't
have a good record. The last person he tried to get elected only got 15% of
the vote. He will likely hurt Trump more than help him.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 13, 2017, 12:27:42 pm
Trump day 236
President Trump could be looking to the democrats to help pass a bill for
DOCA Dreamers. Trump apparently is saying he would support it without
funds for his wall. Of course the GOP has to allow a vote or nothing will
happen. Time will tell if the GOP will go for it. They have a history of
being against allowing illegal aliens any way to stay.

Will we ever find out why the Trump administration has lied at almost every
turn about connections to the Russian government. Starting with Trumps
campaign to the present. They lie and try to blame others for any deals with
Russia. Trump was trying to get approval to build a massive Trump tower in
Moscow during his campaign. This could be one reason he has been trying
to butter up Putin. Well Putin like Trump looks out for himself. Since the deal
fell through I wonder what Trump is up to now?

Trump purposely hid this deal with Russia. He claimed to not even know the
man who was working to get his Moscow Tower approved. We should be
wondering what other deals Trump is planning to do while president. He can
offer other countries pay for play deals. The same thing he was accusing
H Clinton of doing. He has committed almost every bad thing he accouse H.
Clinton of. The GOP should have impeached Trump months ago, but they are
scared of loosing Trump who promised to sign any bill they sent to him.

The Russian government is using the internet to get the American public to 
turn againsts Moslems, and other immigrants. I kind of think this is to cause
divisions in our country. The old saying United we stand, divided we fall is
just as true now as it was when we started our country. Putin knows it, and
will likely try to  divide us all.

We should look to the major media for information, not the fake news online.
The major media can't lie for long because they are in compitition with others
in the same business. They would love to report a major news telling a lie on
purpose.

Trump seems to be ready to push his tax reform. He gives little or no details
on the plan. He talks about cutting taxes for the Middle Class. This may be
true, but he wants to cut taxes on the very rich most of all. I don't think
the democrats are going to go along with cutting taxes for the rich when we
are looking at huge spending for aid and repairs for hurricane victims, and
damage.

Trump and the GOP clame lower taxes will create huge numbers of jobs,
and big growth in the economy.  They say we will cut your taxes, but how
much in actual dollars for the average tax payer? For the very rich anc
corporations it will be millions of dollars, but for the average tax payer,
who can say. They sure don't want to say, because it might not even be
5 dollars a week for a lot of workers.

They say big business will spend those tax savings creating jobs. Well
over the last decade big business is more likely to  buy high tech machines
to to do the work than to hire more workers.  Repetitious factory work
is becoming a thing of the past. GOP politicians want to avoid this fact,
or claim it isn't true.

H. Clinton tried to  tell coal miners they will need to learn new jobs.
Trump and the GOP turned it around and claimed they would bring
back the coal industry. An industry that is much more automated
than in the past. Coal is dirty fuel since most of what remains is
soft coal that has a lot of sulfur in it. I can remember when the
school in my town used coal for heat.  You could small it blocks
away downwind.,and a coal fired power plant pollutes much more.
That's why China is moving away from coal to renewable energy.
Much faster than we are.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 14, 2017, 11:33:16 am
Trump day 237
President Trump asked ESPM to fire one of their employees because she
called him a white supremacist. She wasn't fired, but was called up on
the carpet over it. Why would ESPN not want an employee to call Trump
a white supremacist? After all Trump is on record of supporting them. I
say tell it like it is. Trump ran saying people should be plain in
their speaking. Unless it's about him I suppose.

The internets social media may have to start looking at ads they sell
space for. To make sure they are not pushing fake news. Especially by
foreign countries. Personally I don't follow most social media, but
many people do. Your going to find all kinds of conspiracy theories on
the internet. I used to hear people on CB and ham radio talking about
things that made no sense at all. Now they are on the internet makeing
the same claims.

The special council Muller is looking at Mike Flynns son as well.
Perhaps to pressure his father to tell what he knows. Flynn has
been involved with several countries in business deals. There
isn't anything wrong doing business, but you have to tell the
government if you want security clearance, and Flynn didn't.

The Trump administration is trying to say the Director of the FBI
he fired broke the law by releasing his memos. Those memos were
the property of the director not Trump. So he didn't break any law.
It's just Trump trying to turn his troubles toward the ex director
of the FBI. This will likely cause Trump more problems.

Trump seemed to think being president allows him to do anything
he wants. It's this thinking that has caused him so much trouble.
All his working life secrecy has been a big thing with him. So as
president he is trying to run the government like one of his
corporations. He is finding out he can't get by with keeping
secrets, because the people want to know what the president
is doing. So the news media will be watching his every move.

Every time Trump talks to the news media he wants total control.
He won't let people ask a questionw without him interrupting as
if he knows what the question is about. This is one reason
Trump is so ignorant about so many things. He seems to think
he already knows it all.

Trump has been inviting democrats to have dinner with him lately.
Even to not invite GOP leaders. It will be interesting to see
how this works out. Is Trump trying to pull the wool over the
eyes of the democrats?  I doubt if they will go along with Trump
unless it's a on the level compromise.

Trump continues to call the major media fake news. I haven't
seen any purposeful fake news by the media. If we don't listen
to the people who actually go after real news. We will be at
the mercy of Trump and the government, and only know what
they want us to know. This is how Putin controls the people of
Russia, and the people of any other authoritarian controlled
country.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 15, 2017, 11:30:31 am
Trump day 238
President Trump strikes again. His remarks about the terrorist
attack on a train in England.  He said scotland Yard knew about
the person who placed the exposive device.  Fortuantly no one
was killed, but Trump didn't have any business telling England
how to respond to terrorists. They are probably better at stopping
attacks than we are. Seems he has to act like a know it all even
when he shouldn't even comment except perhaps make an offer
to assist.

President Trump went to florida, and made some speeches. Even to
ask people to vote for a GOP senator from Florida. Not counting
handing out some food packages. Most people like to see our
polictical leaders at times of disaster. Trump is pretty good
a putting on a good show for the public. He has signed off on
declarations to help the hurrican victimes. Which is a good thing.
I hope for their sake he really cares. Time will tell.

Trump is catching a bit of flack for his apparent support of the
DOCA people. The GOP Right is beside them selves that Trump is
putting off the big boarder wall, and his deal with the democrats
for DOCA and boarder security. I will be surprised if Trump stands
up against the GOP Right. Polls show his base approves of helping
the DOCA people, and not tossing them to who knows where. Personally
I think anyone who has served in our melitary risking their lives
for this country should be offered the chance to be a citizen. To
not do so is rather discusting. But the GOP on the right are ready
to toss them out with no offer to let them apply for citizenship.

Trump continues to claim that some of the people who are against
white supremist are just as bad. This just stirs up problems he
dosen't need to deal with. Trump can't stand to admit being wrong.
We all make mistakes in life, but as president he should take the
high ground by never comparing socially bad people with others.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 16, 2017, 11:53:14 am
Trump day 239
President Trump is still trying to limit immigration from Moslem
countries. Kind of strange as it was only supposed to be a few
months to begin with. It's been almost 8 months. So it would seem
he has had plenty of time to work out a immigration plan by now.
Even though almost all terrorists activities in the USA have been
done by US citizens. Oddly enough Trump never seems to notice them.
Trumps anti Moslem plan will likely cause more trouble than protect
us.

It's interesting to know that "Facebook" accepted payment for ad space
in Russian currency. Seems that should have been a sign who was buying
.ad space. Don't you think? Yet "Facebook" claimed they didn't know of
any Russian buys. I think more is going to come out over time. I think
if a foreign government pays for ad space it should be tagged so the
public can know where it's comming fron or who supports it.

GOP
Well they are at it again. Trying to get rid of the ACA. The GOP
is giving red states sweet deals to get enough votes from undecided
senators to pass a bill thata will cut medicade, and allow insurance
companies to charge huge premiums for those with health problems. I
find it hard to believe the GOP to be so heartless to let people die
just because they are too poor to buy insurance that will pay the bills.

All this will do is put rural hospitals, clinics, and doctors out of
business. Making it much harder for low income people to get the care
they need. Especially the working poor in rural areas. If they accomplish
this terrible act, I hope they pay dearly at the voting booths in
2018. This is just so they can cut taxes for the top 1 or 2 percent of
americans. People who spend huge sums to help them get re elected. The
GOP is largly bought and paid for by the rich. I am sure some democrats
feel pressure by supporters, but the GOP is front and center.

Another reason the conservative wing of the GOP wants to cut health
care for the poor is because minorities make up a big percentage of
the poor, and they don't want to help them. It's this kind of thing
that causes a lot of unrest in our cities. When disadvantaged people
are treated like second class citizens become deperate enough they
fight back. Then the GOP points and says they don't deserve any help.

Senator Sandars and 16 other senators have sponsered a bill that would
setup Medicare for all. You can be sure the GOP will cry. "It will raise your
taxes alot." Well people pay thousands of dollars a year for insurance
that requires huge copays, and deductibles. Yes taxes would go up, but
I have a hunch it would be significanly less than the thousands people
pay in insurance premiums now. I am sure the pharmaceutical industry,
,hospitals, clinics and doctors will be agaisnt it due to  regulations that
will require them to charge less for their products and services. Many
in the health care industry are getting gold plated rich, and will fight
hard to protect their health care gold mine. Even if it means many
poor people including children will suffer and die.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 17, 2017, 12:01:19 pm
Trump day 240
President Trump is going home to New York on September 19
to make a speech at the United Nations. It will be interesting
to see if he can follow his teleprompter for the whole thing. Or
will he go nuclear and make a fool of himself and our country?

Personally I think the UN should be moved to Switzerland. It is
nothing but a nest of spies anyway. It would save New York a pie
of money with all the diplomats gone. It would still be able to
do what little good it does anyway.

Even with all the terrible weather we are having Trump and
the GOP still don't believe in Global warming. I guess they
will still be denying it when they have to use a boat to get
to the capital building in washington DC.

A book written by H Clinton  and her campaign was released
this past week. Trump felt he had to defend himself even
though he won the election.  Poor Trump he worries so much
when he hears people talk about him. Unless of course if
they call him "Great".

GOP
Some in the GOP are calling to have the military to
shoot down one of N Koreas missiles. This won't likely
change the mind of the N Koreans leader. If we missed
it would  give the N. Korean something to brag about.
If we did shoot it down he would likely call it an attack
against them. Let's save that for a missile that is headed
for us or an ally.

Congress is working on bills to place sanctions on China
to press them to not continue to trade with N Korea. Even
if China does end trade. Russia does a lot of trade with
N Korea as well. We should remember that during the
Korean war both China and Russia supported N Korea
with material and jet planes. They trained pilots and
even flew some against the american forces. Who's
to say they won't side with N Korea again even if
N Korea starts a war. China is saying they won't
support N Korea if they start a war, but only time
will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 18, 2017, 12:29:10 pm
Trump Day 241
President Trump posted a video implying he hit H Clinton with
a golf ball. Anyone who thinks this is funny should stop and think
is this something we expect from our president? Even if you don't
like Clinton or what she stands for. Violence is never an answer to
anything other than self defense of your person.

Trump has implyed violence is proper from the days of his campaign.
Encouraging his followers to commit violence agains those who  opposed
him. I think he should have been called down then, but instead people
made excuses for him. Including  the media. I think he should have faced
charges for incitment to riot. I think that's why  Trump decided to not have
his rally in Chicogo. If people had riotedhe could  have been blaimed for it.
Trump still promotes violence,telling police to be rough  on those they take
to jail. More than one of his video tweets have shown violence  toward others. 
The president shouldn't act like a school yard yard bully, but until people of
influencecall him down for his childish actions it will continue. joke, or just
politis. Well if anyone posted a video showing someone hitting him, they would
likely be in jail.

Still the GOP makes excuses for him, even laughing about it.  I wonder if the
video had been with a GOP senator or the speaker of the house, would they
still be laughing and saying "Oh it's just Trump." It just shows the GOP is still
cowing down to Trump and his followers. I think it's a terrible example by a
president, and his lack of respect  for others. Encluding the GOP.

The state department continues to suffer under the Trump administration.
Trump doesn't seem to understand that deplomacy does more to prevent wars
than the military does. Just like any family, the world community  needs to talk
with each other. Also to hold out a helping hand when a people  need help. In
the past before missiles it took hours if not days to start a war. Now it only
requires minutes. Without diplomats to pass along our ideas and plans otherwise
misunderstandings can start a conflict that could lead to a disaster affecting
millions of people.  A nuclear war would make the hurricane damage look like
what a thunderstorm might cause in compassion. Add killing radiation on
top of it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 19, 2017, 01:04:04 pm
Trump day 242
President Trump will be speaking to the United Nations. It will be
interesting to see what his speech is about and if he stays on subject.

Trump is still talking about undoing the agreement with Iran. An agreement
that limits their move to having nuclear weapons. To do so will allow them
to proceed as North Korea has. It may be that Iran may try to cheat, but no
agreement is worse than one that lets us inspect them as this does. The only
other alternative is war. I have a hunch Iran will be tougher to win against
than Iraq. Are we ready to spend another Trillion or more with a new war?
Who can say Russia won't supply them with weapons if we do.

Trumps campaign manager Matafort has been told he will be indicted in
conjunction with the Russian connection investigation. So the investigation
deepens. This may give Trump reason to sweat. Only time will tell.

Trump met with the Malayan leader even though he was apparently caught
laundering a billion dollars buying products from the USA. The Justice
department is currently hunting down said property to bring it back to
the US. Trump is basically  sticking his thumb in the eye of law
enforcement by meeting with him. This is nothing new for Trump he
doesn't respect law and order unless its to his advantage.

GOP
They continue to ignore the needs of the working poor. The
GOP seems to think if you can't afford insurance, it's just
too bad. You can just go begging.  Some don't care if it's
your parents, children or spouse. Shows you how indifferent
some rich people are. They claim we can't afford it as a
nation, but they are ready to cut taxes for the rich by
hundreds of millions of dollars. Money the rich would hardly
miss. The GOP claim it will make jobs. The rich don't buy
much of what  the average person works to make. They
invest in items they hope will gain value over time. Diamonds,
Silver, gold and collectables. Not jobs. Factories buy
automation more than hiring new workers.

So when the ACA is gone the insurance companies will stop
insuring sick people, and charge older americans higher premiums,
and other things the ACA did not allow them to do. So they can
make even more money, and sell insurance that doesn't cover you,
GOP supporters should call to tell their GOP congressmen and
Trump you are glad  to see your local hospital close and no local
dotor or clinic. If the GOP is re elected in 2018 they will try to
privatize medicare, medicaid, social security and the VA. Mark my
words, because they want to get rid of all government aid or care
so the private sector do it all. If they don't you can just suffer
and or die. Just  like poor people did a 100 years and more.

Most people today don't remember how poor people suffered
in the past. I just hope we don't return to those days so the
rich can get richer. Already many many people have to either
go without food, power, to buy medicine. No money for a
doctor, or dentist. Kids go without good shoes or warm
clothes. Granted there are a lot of charities providing for
people, but charities don't have the funding to help everyone
who needs it.

The GOP claims hey are helping the economy grow, but when
they cut aid there is a lot less money going to grocery stores or
doctors, or hospitals. To even cause some to close.  Causing
people to loose jobs. Something they don't want to admit.

The GOP wants capitalism, and free enterprise, but we
have to regulate industry or they will put profit above
health and the environment. They should remember
in the 1930's how the great depression was seeding
discontent, and calls for socialism over capitalizim.  We
need to accept some socialistizim to protect the poor
elderly and disabled. If we don't it will destroy our
country. President Roosevelt saved our country with
his jobs programs. Then WWII forced the government
to feed industry with enough funding to employ
thousands. Then after the war the government gave
low interest loans to ex service men to buy and build
homes. This lead to a lot of growth during the 1950's

The GOP needs to pass a good infrastructure bill to
rebuild the country. It would provide millions of good
paying jobs. Which would feed industry for even more
growth. Instead they want to cut taxes for the rich who
will do little to help the economy.

Sorry about the long speech, but we need to think
about growth, not feeding the rich who can take care
of them selves.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 20, 2017, 12:25:03 pm
Trump day 243
President Trump is using campaign funds to pay for lawyers. These
lawyers are for Trump and his family. It's legal, but for a man
who claims to have 9 billion dollars, I think should be ashamed
to use donations to elect him for lawyers. So far it's nearing
$400,000.00  dollars. So all you Trump supporters, be proud
because you know Trump is using your money to keep him and
family out of jail.

Hurricane Maria is spreading distruction in the Caribbean. US territory
islands, The Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico. This will affect not
just a few thousand, but over 3 million US citizens that live on these
islands and call them home. Will Trump and the GOP help them in the
same manner that they did those on the US mainland? As an american I
hope they do. But in the past the GOP hasn't paid much attention to
these territories. I hope the media holds the GOP and Trump accountable
if they ignore the needs of our fellow citizens in the Caribbean.

President Trump made a speech at the United Nation tuesday. I really
think Trump accually hopes the leader of North Korea will start a war.
China has said it won't defend N Korea if they start a war with the US.
So perhaps this is why Trump continues to insult the N Korean
leader. How will history paint the united states after nearlyall of
the Korean country is destroyed along with it's people.

Trump may want to please his voters, but the average Trump voter
has llttle real knowledge of diplomacy or how to work with other
nations. This kind of speak just confuses other leaders, and makes
them distrust the US when our President talks about nationalism.
I think some left seeing Trump as a hate monger with thoughts
f war in his heart.

If Trump continues to not use diplomacy with other countries it's
very likely we will be in a new war. Communication is the only key
to lasting peace. The Clinton admistration was moving toward
peasce with N Korea, but when President Bush took over he scrapped
the peace initative. That was when N. Korea began serious development
of nuclear weapons and missils to deliver them. So we can thank Bush
and the GOP for convincing the N. Koreans to persue their nuclear
defense.  The GOP isn't the only party that has got us into war,
but the GOP has done their part.

I think the GOP congress will be getting an earful for following
the wishes of 25% of the country instead of the majority. The
GOP is betting that a large percentage of that 25$ or more will
outvote the majority in the next election. With all the gerrymandered
districts and their work to  limit minorities and others voting they
may be right.

It can be difficult to defeat people who work to  deceive by
blaming others, using the publics fear and ignorance to do so.
This is nothing new. Bad people have done this to gain power
many times down through history.

The twin disasters of an earthquake in Mexico and the Hurricane
in the Caribbean is in work. We can pray for those affected. So
far Trump has sent help to  Mexico and declared a disaster for
Puerto Rico  and affected territories. I commend our President
for that. Hopefully help will continue for all US citizens affected
by hurricanes this year.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 21, 2017, 12:47:11 pm
Trump day 244
President Trump continues to have chats with various diplomats and leaders. I have
noticed Trump always talks about how great something is. He was speaking to some
African leaders about how happy they should be because of the resources they are
selling to rich business men. Well it seems Trump doesn't understand that rich business
men often take advantage of poor countries. This is why Trump needs to
listen to people that understand this, before making us look bad or uncaring.

This is why it's so important to have diplomats that understand the language and
culture of foreign countries. Trouble is Trump seems to think he is great about
everything, and doesn't listen to people that know. Sill the State department has
many jobs to fill. Many are diplomats that need to represent and communicate US
 policy. Also to give Americans a place to go when they have problems.
 
Still Trump leaves these jobs unfilled, supposedly to save tax dollars, and has
caused many experienced people to leave the state department.

There are reports that Trumps cabinet members are using chartered airplane to
 travel short  distances they could travel in a car. They should be using commercial
flights instead of spending millions of tax dollars for their own comfort. This shows
how little rich people think about the money they spend. Millionairs and Billionaires
think more of their own comfort than saving money for the tax payer.

Trump signed on to sanctions to countries and businesses that deal with N Korea.
Time will tell how well this works. We can't always believe Trump so we will have to
wait and see how much is true.

We have sent people and equipment to help rescue people under earthquake
rubble in Mexico.  I hope help for our territories in the Caribbean is forthcoming
as well. The flooding in Puerto Rico has people on rooftopsnow. Areas there got
36 inches of rain in 24 hours. The amount Huston Texas got after 3 days. Kinda
tells how bad it is there.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 22, 2017, 12:17:51 pm
Trump day 245
North Korea is claiming it will fire a nuclear armed  missile into
the Pacific ocean in the near future. Apparently to prove they have
the capability to hit the USA or it's allies.

Iran is saying they have multi warhead missiles that can fly upto 1200
miles. This threatens the entire middle east. It's likely Israel will find this
to be a serious threat.

Trump should not be making threats with his tweets. Will these tweets cause
Iran or N Korea feel Trump might start a war.

The new sanctions against N Korea could get the attention of the N Korean
leader. As a leader he needs the support of people around him. These sanctions
could cause them to rethink their support.

I am sure Trump wants a win. Something to point at when running for re election
in 2020 if he hasn't been removed from office. I just hope his desire to stay president
doesn't end up starting a war we all may regret.

GOP
Our friendly GOP is still working to kill the ACA. This is all about cutting taxes for
their rich supporters. Some who have said they wouldn't give them any money if
they don't cut taxes for them. These are billionaires who shouldn't be asking for
tax relief in the first place. They hire tax lawyers that keep their tax rates lower
than the average american as it is.

The GOP could reduce the need for so much money to run for office. Just make
that limits how much people can donate to anyone running for office.  Prior to
television people could run for office with a few thousand dollars. Now it takes
hundreds of thousands to millions. With the internet they don't need so much
TV coverage.

As with most people change is always hard, and the GOP is scared to death the
country is moving toward socializim. Well I have news for them. If people get
desperate enough they will call for social changes, and vote the GOP out.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 23, 2017, 12:00:53 pm
Trump day 246
President Trump met with the Turkish leader and gave him praise. This
leader had his security people attack peaceful demonstrators in front
of the Turkish embassy last year. Not on embassy grounds, but outside.
15 of these security men have been charged, but will likely not return
to the country for prosecution. Trump should be telling the Turkish leader
to have these people returned instead of giving him praise. But Trump
has a Trump tower in the capital of Turkey, so I doubt if he wants to
cause any trouble that might cost him some of his precious  profits.

Trumps inauguration fund ended up being $107 million in donations.
We don't know for sure how much was spent for the inauguration, but
Obamas cost less than the $25 million Trump claimed to spend, and
was bigger with many top names for entertainment. The inauguration
committee has been asked about where the extra money went. Trump
claimed they spent around $25 million, but gave no proof. Turns out
Trump can pocket the rest if he wants. To do what he wants. Remember
he offered a donation of 1 million to the Texas relief fund. Just one million,
and still had at least $75 million he could use for anything in his
inaguration fund. Wasn't that nice of him for being so generous? "NOT"

Puerto Rico is getting federal aid, but I wonder how long the GOP and
Trump will support aid to those Caribbean territories?

After 9 months the federal government finally said 21 states
were hacked by someone. 3 states said it was apparently the
Russians. The Trump campaign and his campaign manager are
still under investigation about involvement with Russia. Trump
continues to deny any involvement with Russia. Trump lies and
tries to blame others for his problems. So time will tell.

I think there are people who feel the Russian investigation
is just politics. I have a link to a webpage that lays out why
we should be concerned over what Russia did.

www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)

I think if and when Trump is impeached he won't go down without
a fight, and will continue to claime he was treated unfairly by
the media, GOP, and the Democrats. Even if he stays till 2020
and looses the election he will be on fox news claiming the
election was rigged, and stolen from him.

GOP
The GOP gave up a bipartisan effort to improve the ACA to make a try
to kill it. Even trying to pay off some senators by offering their states
more money. If they have all this money, then why are they claiming
the country can't afford it? I think many of our friendly GOP have sold
them selves to rich supporters. That is probably why they ignore the
voters at home. It's a shame they don't have to wear a sign on their
back with the names of their owners.

Sure they have to beg to get money for their campaigns, but they could
reduce the costs by limiting donations to individual members running
for congress, and the amount of money spent by anyone running. Instead
they worked to allow political action committes to help support members
running. These PACKS have few limits on how much they can spend
since it's not about individuals donating for any one canidate
running for office. It's more about supporting a party platform
 than individuals.

If congress would actually work to reform campaign spending it
would allow more qualified people to run for office. Also it would
give them more time to do the job instead of raising money from
the rich crowd wanting a pay for play agreement. I think many in
congress want it to be limited to rich players. So change will
be slow to come, if ever.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 24, 2017, 11:52:25 am
Trump day 247
President Trumps call to  fire NFL players if they don't stand for the
National anthem is wrong. It's none of Trumps business to tell people
to fire others. These players are protesting the way the police is killing
black people. Not against the country or our military. Obama had been
pushing for change in  how the police treat minorities. Trump and his
atterney general are returning us to the days of the past where
minorities were treated like second class citizens.

Trump will do anything to build his support. This fight against the
NFL may be a big mistake. Americans love Football. I don't think
they are worried very much about a player not standing up for the
National anthem. In 2011 Trump said it was ok to burn the American
flag. Trumps wife had to remind him to put his hand over his heart
during the anthem earlier this year. So it goes to show it's not about
American symbols, but Trump. We should remember Trump is against
anyone who doesn't support or praise him.

The Trump administration and the GOP are still working hard to limit
voting in our country. Claiming it's all about voter fraud when there
is no evidence of such fraud. It's all about the GOP wanting to win
elections so they can discriminate against minorities and the LGBT.
They know they are in the minority so the only way they can win is
with dirty tricks. If those of us don't get out and vote the GOP will
take and keep control of our country. If they get a conservative majority
in the Supreme Court they can do just about anything they want.
There are many ways to take rights away from people if you control
the government. The bill of rights can be interpreted in many ways.
You might think only the left or liberals want to take your guns. A very
conservative government may decide you don't need them at all. Or
have a right to speak out against them.

Trump continues to bluster against the leader of N Korea. Short of turning
N Korea into bouncing rubble. Threats to do this isn't change N Korea, we
have to use diplomacy. The more talk the better. It would be better to kiss
up to the N Korean leader than killing millions of people trying to get rid of
him. Why should we care if he can brag about winning the ware of words.
We should have left the Koreans alone in the first place. By now they would
likely be more like China with a growing economy, and we would have saved
hundreds of billions and saved the lives of 50,000 UN and American soldiers
in the Korean war 65 years ago.

The GOP continues trying to get rid of the ACA, It's all about saving movey for
the rich, not the middle class. They lie and lie trying to claim it's to save people
money. Most people are insured by employers, the ones that will suffer is the
working poor, and disadvantaged. Canada offers good health care for all it's
people for less money.  That proves we can do the same. They aren't going
broke like the GOP claims we would. Price regulations and preventative care
will cut costs for us all.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 25, 2017, 12:32:18 pm
Trump day 248.
N. Korea claims Trump has declared war on them. Perhaps the N Korean leader said
this hoping to get support from China, and Russia. The UN passed tough sanctions
that will hurt N Korea if countries follow through with them. Time will tell.

Trump had some military aircraft fly north over international water along
N. Koreas coast. Apparently as a show of force. I don't know why Trump
thinks the N Korean leader is ignorant of our power. He knows we can
destroy his country, but he also knows that S Korea will suffer the same
fate, and perhaps one or more of his missiles will hit US territory.
It would be much better to talk.

Trumps son n law is using a private email since Trumps election.  Using it to message
others in the white house. This is what Trump was calling H. Clinton a crook over. Not
turning in all emails she sent or received. I think anyone with a email account has
deleted thosands of emails that are personal or spam. So calling Clinton a crook for
deleting personal email is just a lot of noise by a man who has and is doing the same
thing.

Trump and the GOP leadership is still trying to get enough votes to kill the ACA and cut
Medicaid to please their rich supporters, not their voters. I wonder how many GOP
members have been to medicaid supported nursing homes? To tell them why they may
have to go without care, or by relatives who may or may not be able to give them
the care they need. Many of these people served in the military, and gave of themselves
to help others when they were younger. It is rather shameful how we treat our elders in
this country. When my mother was in the rest home. I went to visit almost every day. I
rarely saw others getting visits by family. Almost like their families were glad to be rid
of them. Not everyone treats their elder families this way, but many could do much more
than they do.

Come on Trump. Our Caribbean territories are not getting the aid they should be getting.
Even after a week people are in desperate need of water and fuel to run generators and
vehicles. If we don't provide the help they need there will be a mass migration to the US
mainland. Not a few thousand, but possibly a million or more. I really think we should build
a large naval base in Puerto Rico to replace the one in Cuba. If we did it would pretty much
solve the economic problems there.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 26, 2017, 01:18:23 pm
Trump day 249
The investigation continues about Russias involvement in our election. Some
with  ads on facebook and bots on twitter. Not counting trying to hack into
voting data. Trump continues to claim it's a hoax. Probably because he feels
it discredits his presidency. Well in my opinon loosing the popular vote by
millions is what discredits his election the most.

There isn't much new. N Korea is on the edge of a hot war with us, The
white houseis using private emails for government information. Aid for
the Caribbean territories is taking too long with many people desperate
for water, and fuel. Trump just says we are handling the situation. Then
complains about football players for not standing up during the
national anthem. Something that isn't the business of any president.

GOP
If our friendly GOP took the same interest they did for H Clinton, perhaps
more would be getting done. They continue to  ignore Trumps indiscretions,
and tweets that do more harm than good for our country. Trump and the
GOP should care more about the people of our country than their agenda.
Trump should care about the country as a whole, not just those who voted
for him.

Puerto Rico has applied for statehood more then once, but our congress,
mostly the GOP have denied it. Now they are blaming them for having a
poor  infrastructure. Puerto Rico has been treated like an unwanted step
child for years. I think it's because of it's Hispanic background, and we
know how the GOP feels about Hispanics.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 27, 2017, 12:03:43 pm
Trump day 250
The GOP decided to give up on removing the ACA due to not having the votes.
Not because it's a bad thing to do. Trump said he was disappointed that it failed.
I guess in spite of his promise to have affordable health care for all, he was
ready to sign a bill that would take it away from millions of americans.  Including
many of those who voted for him.

Trump and the GOP are moving to  do tax reform, claiming to
cut taxes for corportations and the middle class. Details are
in work.

Two people died in a hospital in Puerto Rico because their emergency generator
ran out of fuel. Fuel that should have been delivered to all hospitals there.  It's
been a week after all. I hardly think we could expect a hospital would have more
thana weeks supply of fuel on hand. RED TAPE is slowing aid. Trump could have
the military make sure fuel and water is supplied to all hospitals immediatly. As
well as a communications system for the island till the civilian system is repaired. 
How many more people will die due to government bureaucracy when Trump
has the powerto give the military full power to save lives. He claims he has
people there checking to see what is needed. They could decided that after
the emergency has past.

A hospital ship has been ordered to Puerto Rico. It may be 4 days before it
even starts the 5 day trip. Why did they wait so long. H. Clinton on twutter
told Trump he should send one. Soon after the order was made. It wasn't
her job to request it, Trump was busy fussing about the NFL when he
should have had relief for the Caribbean territories in mind.

A lot of aid is moving, but it has been a slow start. People will begin to
get sick, and die in the thousands if aid isn't forthcomming. 3 million
people need a lot of aid and need it fast. This could end up being the
largest human disaster in the history of the USA.

The Jones ACT, a 100 year old law made to protect american shipping
following ww1. This costs Puerto Rico economy hundreds of millions.
This ACT was bought and paid for by rich shipping interests.  This
ACT should have been done away with years ago. To have a law
like this and then to blame Puerto Rico for being broke is discussing.

Here is a link to the Jones ACT .. This doesn't affect the US mainland
like it does Puerto Rico. Also if needed it should be updated as the
Merchant Marine service isn't near what it was in 1920.
Florida was given a waiver after Hurricane Irma. So why not Puerto Rico?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 28, 2017, 01:06:51 pm
Trump day 251
President Trump is continuing to sabotage the ACA by not guaranteeing
subsidy payments to insurance carriers. Causing an almost 50 percent
increase in premiums. Also they are cutting advertising for sign up
to the ACA this fall. They know if fewer people are signed up the higher
the premiums will be, and in some areas no insurance at all. After all
this Trump and the GOP have the Gall to blame the ACA for failing and
costs going higher.

They want the public to believe it's a bad law. The ACA is just a free
market to sell insurance. The law does require policies to pay the bills
and provide for preventative tests. Without the ACA we will return to
the days when insurance companies selling policies that pay little
leaving people with debt that drives them into bankruptcy and no
credit. All this because Trump and the GOP leaders hated the fact
a black man was president. The ACA is a GOP idea that Obama worked
to get passed. So for the past 7 years they have used their hateful
lies to gain seats in congress.

Alabama voted for a religious radical man as a canidate for the US senate.
This country was started because people wanted religious freedom. If we
put people in office who want only one religious belief it will set freedom
back decades. This guy wants to put homosexuals  in jail for homosexual
acts. He claimes the terrorist attacks are due to morality. By his standars
I suppose. It's this kind of thinking that has caused the suffering of
millions down through history.

Tax reform or tax cuts? It was reported Trump could end up with more
than 75 percent in savings for his self. Trump has hundreds of corporations
who will benifit if Trump gets the tax reform he wants. Tax rates for the
lowest earners will go up from 10 to 12 percent.  Middle class will likely
end up paying about the same. Due to large increases in personal and
family cost deductions. The rest goes to cut taxes for the very rich with
cutting rid of capital gains, and inheritance taxes.  Most of which mostly
affects millionaires.

Time will tell, but it's not likely tax reform will end up with much of Trumps
desires.

Trump is still saying he is working to help Puerto Rico, but people are dying
while Trump and the GOP play politics. This disaster needs military force to
solve. They need help now not next week.   
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 29, 2017, 12:33:52 pm
Trump Day 252
Will President Trump hold Tom Price accountable for spending tax dollars for charter
flights when he could have saved the tax pagers hundreds of thosands. Price offered
to pay for his seat in the aircraft when it was he who wanted a whole plane. He is
responsible for the whole plane not just a pot to sit on. He needs to pay the whole
cost he signed off on.

Trump continues to claim he is doing all he can for Puerto Rico. While people go
without fuel, food, and water. A cruise ship is helping thousands off the island
on it's own.  There are thousands of shipping containers siting on docks waiting
to be dilivered. The US military should be there in force with the means to help
the US citizens of Puerto Rico. This is not a foreign country, but a US territory
that needs our help, not promises and bragging by a president who is worried
more about cutting his taxes than the people of Puerto Rico. It's likely there
will be tens of thousands migrating to the US mainland where they can vote in
2018 in case the GOP and Trump have forgotten.

The special council is pulling white house staff in for questions along with
all paperwork and data about the Trump campaign, and administration. So
Trump and company best get their stories stright.The special council isn't a
GOP buddy trying to cover for Trump.

The Russians are still trolling Twitter, and other social media sites. Working
to divide our country. Anytime you see negative remarks about people who are
talking against the GOP or Trump it's very possible it's a Russian bot or Troll.
It's another good reason to follow the televised news and newspapers instead
of social media for any political news. There is proof that Russian hackers and
Trolls by the thousands are working to divide our and other democracies around
the world. No matter what Trump or the GOP claim to the contrary.

Trump is talking more than the GOP would like about tax reform. They will likely
try to ram this through before the public learn the dirty truth that they mainly
want to cut taxes for their rich supporters and other very rich people. Rich
people buy stocks and invest to make more money. They don't by toasters and
washing machines and other products that make jobs.. Each time they cut taxes
for the rich and corporations the government looses money. Each time they raise
taxes on them the government gains in tax revenue. In spite of the lies the
GOP wants to feed the public.

Trump and his people continue to call news repoarts from and about Puerto Rico
misleading and not telling the truth. People on the ground can see the response
isn't as much as Trump claims it is. They could have been on the Island right
after the storm. Excuses about bureaucracy is common cop out by politicians.

If our military was run like this during a war, we wouild likely loose.  This disaster
needed full control by the military to do the job.  One order was all they needed.
"Do what it takes to save the people of our Caribbean territories NOW." The
president has emergency powers that can bypass RED TAPE. Then sort it out
afterwords. This inaction by Trump will hang over his head from now on.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 30, 2017, 12:03:11 pm
Trump Day 253
I am ashamed to call Trump our president. After his tweets attacking the Mayor of the
largest city in Puerto Rico made a passionate pea to save the lives there. Calling her
and the people of Puerto Rico lazy because they are asking for help. These are US
citizens who deserve the help they need no matter what Trump thinks about them.

Why? Because he can't be at fault. It has to be the fault of Puerto Rico and the media.
Trump never takes responsibility for anything. Even the 3 star General Trump sent there
said there isn't enough men or equipment there to do the job.

I think it's partly due to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands don't vote for president, and
Trump only cares about those who voted for him, and not even all of those. Trump can
deny it, but he is a racist, and doesn't think women or minorities should be elected to
any public office, or own a business of any size. He wants everyone to brag on him and
lay praise on him for anything he does. If they don't he is ready to step on them.

If Trump was as smart as he claims to be he would know presidents never get lasting
praise. Like any politician they are only constantly liked by blind supporters who look
the other way. They don't want to see any evil, hear any evil, or speak any evil about
the man they voted for. In Trumps case that's about 30 percent of the population.

GOP
The GOP is talking about the Carabbean territories needing help, but I have my doubts
if they work very hard to help them. Unlike Florida or Texas there isn't any representatives
in congress to speak out. Fortunately there are some democrats speaking out. Those in
the GOP are mostly making excuses for Trump.

By the way Trump still wants to build a huge Trump Tower in Moscow Russia so he
will continue trying to please Putin.

They will likely be working to pass their big tax cuts for the very rich, and leave
Puerto Rico to Trumps not so tender mercy.

I could say more, but hopefully tomorrow will bring better news.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 01, 2017, 12:31:52 pm
Trump day 254
President Trump has been playing golf for 4 days and tweeting
whild the people of Puerto Rico suffer in long lines for feul, ice,
water, and food.  They arn't in a air condition room while waiting,
but standing in 100 degree weather for hours on end. Trump claims
these people are just looking for handouts because they are too
lazy to work. If he does go to Puerto Rico he won't stand in the
sun. I think he will tell his staff round up a crowd of supporters to
cheer when he makes a speech talking about how good everything
is being taken care of at his command. Because Trump always has
to look good.

While Trump rides around on a fancy golf cart the government
has to rent a golf cart from Trumps resort to follow him around.
The rentals are over $12.000.00  dollars so far. Trump continues
to use his office to make money hnad over fist. It's no wonder
why his cabinet members think they can spend tax dollars for
chartered planes along with air force planes for work and
vacations. Just like boss Trump does.

Trump made more tweets telling the secretary of state to not
spend a lot of time trying to talk to N. Korea.

This business with Trump and the NFL over the national anthem
still continues. This is a first amentment right. People in other
countries are shot and tortured for speaking or acting out their
beliefs. That is why our founders made it right. Trump doesn't
really care about this, it's just another way he is playing to his
supporters and getting acheers at a ralley.

The majority of the public just want to watch the game, and
don't really care or want to deal with the politics of how the
players or Trump feels. I think even his supporters will grow
weary of this over time.

Trrumps habits and use of wifi for tweets and emails make H.
Clintons email problems totall insignificant in comparison.
Perhaps it's time to lock up Trump and his people instead.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 02, 2017, 12:15:04 pm
Trump Day 255
President Trump spoke condolance to the people in Las Vegas.
He plans to be in Las Vegas on wensday Oct 4 2017.

Congress will be making their condolances as well. Some
talk about gun control. For and against. I really doubt if
gun control could prevent a determined person from using
weopons to  kill others.

One good note is the Caribbean territories are getting
better recovery help after almost 10 days.


All news will be centered on the shooting in Las Vegas, so I
have nothing more today.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 03, 2017, 01:04:43 pm
Trump Day 256.
President Trump arrived in Puerto Rico today. Then to a photo op
Where he bragged on the military, fima, and the Govenor of Puerto
Rico.  He shook hands with the mayor of San Juan, then turn away
not saying anything. She was placed out of camera range while
Trump bragged on how well the government had helped the Island
of Puerto Rico. He claimed he wasn't being political, but it was
obvious he didn't want the Mayor to have any attentiono. In fact
she was the only dignitary who wasn't invited to speak by Trump.

Trump reminded the Governor that Puerto rico owed a lot of money, and how
much this is costing the government. Hopefully Trump will go to the hard hit
areas and not just the areas that had strong sturctures that survived.

Trump continues to act like a child anytime someone doesn't brag on
him. Trump talked about political correctness, but when this woman
told a truth that embarrassed Trump he did his best to embarrassed her.

Trump plans to have another photo op with him talking to some locals, but
I wonder how hand picked these people were. We can be sure Trump
wouldn't want to be boo'ed at or fussed at on camera.

Then he is to be flown around the island in the Marine One Helicopter. Then
to land on one of the Navy ships to make another speech.

Trump didn't want to talk about gun laws. Saying it's not the
time to talk about gun control. He and the GOP want to wait
till the public cools off so they can do what they want about
gun control.

Gun control should be more about gun safety, and not letting
poeple who have serious mental problems to not have them.
Background checks may be a hassel, but even though a crook
can steal  a gun or buy one from some individula. It takes time
and trouble to do so. Adding a little trouble to buy a firearem
can save lives. The NRA didn't even want the tech to keep a gun
from being used by any but the person who owns it. This would
save the lives of both the police and children who are killed by
accidental shootings.

It's not likely we will see any change. The GOP has passed laws
that allow the mentally ill to have guns, and were in the process
of allowing silencers for individual gun owners. They are reconsidering
this idea.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 04, 2017, 01:19:59 pm
Trump day 257
President Trump is in Los Vegas visiting hospitals, and making speeches. Why 
didn't he do the same in Puerto Rico. Already 34 have died there. Instead he cut
his visit short. At least hospital visits would have shown he cared.  He should
order an aircraft carrier with many helicopters to carry food to isolated villages and
bring out the sick and infermed. Trump only cares about those who voted for him.

Well there are a lot of people in this country who have family on the island of Puerto
Rico, and I hope they show the GOP and Trump their feelings at the voting booth.

Not much in the news about anythig but the shooting. Congress is avoiding the
issue of gun safety and control. Heaven forbid they do anything to cause the NRA
bad mouth the GOP about gun control.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 05, 2017, 12:31:48 pm
Trump day 258
President Trump is having trouble getting along with his cabinet. Trump still wants
to run the white house like a big corporation with him as the CEO. "I am the "Boss"
and everyone must live with it.

Trump never admits being wrong about anything. This may work well for a salesman
selling products to the public, but not as president. I really don't think he knows
anything except how to sell real estate, play golf, and perhaps how to be an actor.
This idea of his to always fight back when attacked may have served him in the
past, but it makes him look look bad as president. Being a bully will only hurt him.

It's no wonder those in the white house talk behind Trumps back and leak problems
he has to the press. The secretary of state apparently called Trump a Moron. It's
likely  he isn't the only one in Trumps staff who feels the same about Trump.

Trump acts like he is some kind of emperor who like the story can't
tell he has no clothes, and expects everyone in his domain to tell
him how great he is, and how fine his clothes are. In Trumps case
the clothes refers to how smart he is.

Trump said we would remove Puerto Rico's prestorm debt. His people
and the GOP are trying to say we shouldn't believe everything Trump
says. Time will tell, but it's not likely the debt will be cleared.
Even though Trump said it would be.

GOP
They continue trying to cover for Trump. A senate partial report
about the Russian involvement in the 2016 election, the GOP is
trying to say there isn't any real evidence they were helping
Trump over Clinton. They know Trump would have a fit if they
found he won with the Russians help.

The GOP say it's too soon to talk about gun control. They just want
to stall till the public pressure lessens for gun control laws. They
are scared of the NRA. It's too bad health care doesn't have as much
clout. We do need good safety laws for gun ownership. Just as we do
for other dangerous devices or products.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 06, 2017, 12:54:37 pm
Trump day 259
President Trump has removed the requirement for womens coverage to
prevent unwanted pregnacies from the ACA. Trump says it's to keep
government from making people do whats against their religion. Even
if it costs the rights of others.

Trump made some comments that there is a comming storm. It appears
to involve the military, but he didn't say what it might be. Trump never
seems to understand how such statements affect our allies, and those
countries who might think we are out to get. It's this type of thing that
start wars.  Perhaps Trump is hoping it will.

Trump talks like he will undo the treaty with Iran over their development
of nuclear weapons.  This will likely cause them to restart their program
at full speed. 7 nations made this treaty, not just the USA. So it's not
likely we will have any support to attack Iran. In fact we can be sure
Russia will take Irans side, and sell them weapons and material. Not
counting China who is a trading ally of Iran.

Trump should be impeached before he causes a war that could cost
millions of lives. He has already committed impeachable acts, but
the GOP is scared he would turn his followers against them. They
know it would likely cost them both houses of congress. Even at
that they should care more about the country, and their agenda
later.

Trump continues to call the major news fake. It's to be sure to
cover up his mistakes, and to mislead his supporters. The major
media is in a business, if they started lying those in competition
who are in business would be happy to report it.

GOP
The GOP passed a law change that allows the seriously mentally ill to
buy weapons. It would appear the GOP and Trump wants to undo any
and all decisions made by Obama including this law. They don't seem
to care that people who are so mentally ill they can't decide how to
spend their money would have any business with a firearm. Trump was
glad to sign this change in the law.

It would seem the GOP and Trump trust the menally ill to not shoot
people. The very ones who generally end up shooting people.

So our friendly GOP will put us all at risk just to pass their agenda no
matter how stupid it is. As long as it undo's Obama's work while in
the white house.

The GOP claims they can't contact Christifer Steel in Britain. About his
report about Trump and the Russians. Mr Steel has said he will speak
to them anytime they want. So I think the GOP isn't being totally honest.
Seems ever since Trump won the election lies are flying even from
congress as well as Trump. That's nothing new, GOP politics are filled
with lies. Even the democrats at times, but the GOP wins the race
hands down. The GOP leaders will do anything to win their agenda
even if it hurts the country.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 07, 2017, 12:07:08 pm
Trump day 260
President Trumps polls show his approval at 32%, and only 24% feel the
country is moving in the right direction. I think his support is fading as
the months go by. I wonder if the GOP is noticing this?

Trump killed a waiver for Iowa that would lower health insurance
premiums under the ACA. He and the GOP are continuing to cause
the cost of health insurance to climb under the ACA for Americans.
So all those who voted for Trump and the GOP should call them up
and thank them, or perhaps complain.

Still half the people of Puerto Rico are without electric power or
clean drinking water. People in the mountain areas haven't even
seen any aid or help after three weeks.  This after Trump claims
how good a job is being done there. In a country of 3.5 million
americans there are only 15,000 federal workers helping. There
should be 50,000 which is not even 2 people for every hundred.
As is it's less than 1 person for every 200. Florida and Texas both
got more help.

Trump made the comment that Puerto Rico owed 70 Billion. Well
this is from bankers who gambled that they would make money
loaning Puerto Rico money. So it's their loss not tax payers, or
even the people of Puerto Rico. Though Trumop made it sound
like it was to be paid back. Instead of trying to sound cute by
speaking the name Puerto Rico with a spanish accent he should
be working to help the americans there.

The secretary of the Treasury has cost the tax payers $800.000.00
riding in air force planes since taking office. Why? because he wants
a connection to Washington DC at all times in case he is needed. I
hardly think the secretary of the Treasury is needed a all times.
He could call in after landing taking a commercial jet. He is just
another fat cat that wants a cozy ride on someone elses money.

Trump during his campaign complained about waste of tax payer
money, just another lie as he and his staff have spent nearly 100
million on travel in the past 8 months. His staff could be using
commercial flights for domestic travel, at around 1% of the cost.

Obama and his staff spent less than 100 million for demestic travel
over the entire 8 years he was in office.

Trump removed contraceptive care from women that need it through
the ACA. Supposedly to protect religious rights, or morality. This is
just Trump playing to the religious right voters. The GOP and Trump
complain about the cost of medicaid to the government. This action
will just increse medicaid costs when those women who can't afford
birth control start getting pregnant and having babies.

The GOP leadership and Trump are out to make everyone do what
they think is correct. Womens rights, minority rights, and LGBT
rights mean little or nothing to them.

For the first time in seven years jobs didn't increase over the
last quarter.. Jobs dropped. Strangely enough Trump didn't take
credit for it. I am surprised he isn't calling it fake news.  Now he
has had Fima remove hurricane recovery statistics from their
website. Is he ashamed for people to see the slow recovery in
Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands? Who can say.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 08, 2017, 12:22:39 pm
Trump Day 261
President Trump continues to ignore the needs of the Americans
in Puerto Rico. Instead he sits around freting about the news not
giving him praise.

Trump continues to work to keep his voting base. a group who are
slowly leaving him anyway. I am sure he will keep a solid 20 %, but
if he thinks that will get him elected he will be left standing alone in
2020.

I just hope he doesn't get us in a war that kills millions, encluding
Americans. He doesn't mind seeing the working poor to go without
health care, or other needs. I don't think he cares about the brave
people in the military. If we go to war it's  likely thousands will die.
With Trump blaming the generals for the losses.

A GOP senator called  the white house an adult day care center.
After Trump called the senator a coward for not running for
re-election. I wish the rest of the GOP would stand up to
Trump.

Trump is reaching out to the Democrats to help pass a health
care fix. They said they would work to fix the ACA, but not
to get rid of it. So time will tell. The GOP isn't happy about
Trump talking to the Democrats. So time will tell.

GOP
The GOP leadership work to delay or not pass sensible gun control
for the country, but they won't allow the public to enter the halls of
congress without going through metal detectors or carry guns there.
I guess they feel their lives are more  important than ours.

There is a movement within the GOP to have a constituional amendment
convention. They wish to give more power to the states. They want states
to have the power to discriminate againsnt minorities and LGBT, not counting
anyone who doesn't agree with the state agenda. People would have little
chance to appeal to the central government. To even give the states a way
to over rule the supreme court.

You might think this isn't possible, but most states have GOP govenors and
legislatures. So if the US congress can start the ball rolling there are likely
enough states to ratify it.

The GOP has for many years pushed for states rights. They claim to be the
party of Lincoln, but this could even give the states a way to leave the Union.
Something that Lincoln started a civil war to prevent.

They sing a song that it will make the country as the founders wanted, but
don't believe them. It's a far right movement to gain full control for the GOP. 
Why? Because they  and the super rich know in a decade or so the country
will shift far enough to the left to kick the far right out of power. At that
point the super rich will loose much of their control as well.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 09, 2017, 01:37:00 pm
Trump day 262.
The VP left a football game, because some of the players didn't
stand for the national anthem. I can't say for sure, but I have a
hunch the VP didn't want to get chewed out by Trump for not
leaving. Personally I doubt many if any of those who went to
see the game left as well.

There are more important things to worry over than giving
people a hard time for  quietly protesting.

Personally I don't think any VP or President should attend
any sporting event. The cost, and disruption of the local
area shows a lack of consideration for the public at large.
I really doubt if many went to the game because the VP
was there. In fact some may have stayed home because
he was there.

Trump continues to stir the pot in Korea. I still think
he hopes N. Korea will do something Trump can
respond to. A plane shot down, or a missile from
N. Korea going a miss.

Trump is trying to add some immigration inforcement
to the dreamers protection bill. When he had promised
to give the dreamer kids protection without adding on
anything else. The GOP hopes to use this to get the
democrats to  vote for more immigration inforcement.

The dreamer kids are working hard to  stay in the
country without asking for handouts. They will likely
move to Canada who will benefit  from these hard
working people.

It's unfortuant Trump can't see beyond his supporters.
Many of which seem to be short sighted as well.

Fima isn't doing a very good job in Puerto Rico. I
kind of wonder if Trump is telling Fima to do as
little as possible there, and the Virgin Islands.

The govenor of Puerto Rico i s asking for more
money needed to  get the power grid back up.
The death toll is climbing even if Trump doesn't
want to admit his failure there.



GOP
They can't seem to  get zeroed in on any one
thing. They want to protect Trump, misleading
the public about tax reform, and anything that
might help them stay in power. It would be nice
if the GOP and Trump really cared about the
country instead of their agenda.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 10, 2017, 01:23:31 pm
Trump Day 263
President Trump according to staff he screams at his people when
things doesn't go his way, or when he feels insulted. So far he is
being held in check by his top secretaries. Makes one wonder
what Trump might do in one of these times of rage. The GOP
needs to kick Trump out before he starts a war or something
to harm the country and perhaps the world.

Trumps lack of belief in diplomacy, and his thinking military
threats work instead we are headed to a probable disaster.

He doesn't seem to understand that some people will go to
war over words. Even if they can't win. Pride has brought down
many leaders through history.

I wonder how bad things have to get before the GOP wakes up
and works for the good of the country?
Only time will tell.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 10, 2017, 01:33:25 pm
Trump day 264
President Trump claimed he was rich enough to not owe
anyone, but has had his hand out for money almost from the
beginning. I think he is nice to the Russians, because he and
his family owes them millions of dollars.

Those who voted for Trump said they wanted to clean the swamp
by voting for Trump, but he has it running over with the money
grubbing super rich. Trumps friend and hero Bannan is out to get
rid of almost all GOP senators using the money of a super rich
billionaire who wants to control the government because he
wants to change it to benifit him and the super rich.

If by some chance he and Bannon succeed we all may
 loose our basic rights. Especially for minorities,
and the LGBT, with women and disabled not far behind.
The GOP managed to clear the way to let the super rich
spend tens of millions to mislead the american
public with lies and conspiracy theories.

Once they load the GOP with white supremacists who
hate anyone who is different. This country could decend
into a civil war. Then marchal law could bedeclared and
we will be at the mercy of a small group of super rich
men just like Russia.

The GOP continues trying to protect Trump. Even though
they know how unstable Trump is. Seems they don't
mind betting the lives of our brave military by not dealing
with Trump. If Trump discontinues the treaty with Iran it
will give the radicals in Iran a way to gain more power. If
they do then they may try to control other middle eastern
countries with military power or threats. If they bring their
Nuclear program back up to speed, then will Trump decide
to stop them with a war?

Trump doesn't seem to understand how one actioncan
cause even worse problems in other countries. World politics
is like a chess game. If you play without planning you will
likely loose in the end.

There is a report that Trump wants to increase our nuclear weapons
and the means to deliver them by a factor of 10. Trump doesn't seem
to understand that this would immediately start an arms race. We
have enough to turn most of the world into bouncing rubble. With
an treaty breaking arms race life on the planet could be completly
destroyed if we had a nuclear war. There might be a few suvivers
crawling out of shelters, but even they would  likely be dead in a
few years. Due to radiation poisoning of land air and water. It
was after this when the secretary of state called Trump
a moron later.

It would take many years to grow our nuclear force 10 times, and
cost several thousands of billions of dollars we don't have to spend.

Trump claims to be so smart, but he acts just like ignorant people
I have seen who think common sense ideas will fix anything. I hope
the people who voted for him will see him for what he is. A danger
to our country and way of life. Perhaps even the world.

Like Nero who fiddled while Rome burned. Trump talks about people
not respecting the flag while California burns and people in Puerto Rico
die. If he continues to ignore his job he may yet be impeached.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 12, 2017, 12:27:16 pm
Trump day 265
President Trump made comments that perhaps NBC should loose it's license
to broadcast. Well Trump is showing his ignorance again. NBC is broadcast
by individual television stations, by sattelite providers and cable. They don't
have a broadcast license to loose.

Trump claimed he hated everyone in the white house. Except for one or two,
perhaps he likes his family. How can anyone respect someone who makes 
childish statements like this.

Trump is promising to reduce the national debt. He points to the stock
market growth as reducing the debt. Profits on the stock market only
help stock holders who only pay taxes on stocks they cash in.

Trump claims the stock market is doing great, well it's been growing
for many years slow and steady. Mostly under Obama. 

The stock market makes money mostly for rich Americans. It
does little or nothing to reduce the national debt.

Watch out Trump care is  here. Trump is promising cheap insurance that
gives great coverage. You better read the fine print. Cheap plans will not
pay the high costs of heath care. Trump claims this will cause more 
compitition across state lines. He didn't say anything about people who 
have health issues. This whole deal is designed to harm the ACA even
more than it has been harmed by the Trump administration over the last
several months. All designed to drive up premium costs trying to prove
the ACA is a bad deal. They should fix the ACA instead.

Trump and the GOP are hoping if they hurt the ACA enough the public
will want to get rid of it. Well I kind of think if they do destroy health 
care for people who can't afford it. Only to make cheap plans that
don't pay the bills. The public may decide to replace them as well.
/8
Puerto Rico still isn't getting the help they need. Fima just wants
people to fill out forms, and does little to help. Even the hospital 
ship is only helping seven people when they could be helping many
more. It's likely due to paperwork and lack of transportation. I have
a hunch Trump will say the hospital ship is costing to much with for
the care it's providing. I understand Trump is already saying the 
Caribbean  territories may have to handle repairs on their own, and
congress is saying they want to loan the territories the money for repairs
and for them to pay it back costs to the government. I really believe the
GOP wants the territories to ask for independence, because congress has
stalled  for many years to allow their request for statehood.

It's too bad they can't vote, You know they wouldn't pull that with Florida,
or Texas.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 13, 2017, 12:39:20 pm
Trump day 266
President Trump sent his chief of staff out to defend
his lack of ability to lead our country. The news conference
by General Kelly was basicly a whitewash of Trumps problems.

He said being chief of staff for Trump was the toughest
job he ever had. Sounds like he is saying Trump is very
hard to work for. A good president should be easy to work
for. I think we know Trump is constantly changing his mind
except for his plans to make his self look great and richer.

Trump said the country would stand by Puerto Rico last
week. Now he is wanting to leave Puerto Rico to recover
on it's own. New Orleans had help from Fima and the
government for 6 years after the Hurrican Catrina, not
a few weeks. The Americans in Puerto Rico deserve the
same consideration and aid.

I see this as more proof of Trumps racist feelings. I think
he see's Puerto Rico as a foreign country of latinos who he
considers to be lazy people looking for a hand out.

He ran for office blaiming latinos for the countries
drug problem, and dangerous people who needed to be walled
out of our country. He never mentions those coming from
China and the far east who deal in drugs and a sex trade.
I am sure many of his supporters consider most spanish speaking
people as being lazy and looking for a free ride.

I wonder how Trumps supporters will feel when they see food
shortages with prices sky rocketing due to a lack of foreign workers
to harvest vegetable crops. Stoop labor isn't a favorite work for
most Americans, so the large farms find it hard to get home grown
labor.

Now Trump and the GOP are working to wreck the ACA which will
cause millions of people to loose affordable health insurance.
Replaced by insurance that won't cover existing healh problems
even pay all needed costs of a hospital stay. This will cause
people to not get needed care and if they don't die will end
up on medicaid as a last resort. Costing the government
billions more in the long run. Not counting work and taxes 
lost due to people being sick because they can't afford a
doctor or the medicine.
 
What's next. Trump wants to break the nuclear treaty with
Iran. Then we will have another country like N. Korea
working to have nuclear weapons.

Trump is giving it to congress where the GOP may do
anything.

The GOP's hate of Obama goes on and on. Even to put us
all at risk.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 14, 2017, 01:07:35 pm
Trump day 267
President Trump claims to hold Cristian beliefs. A man who grabs women, kisses
them without their permission. A man who says the people in Puerto Rico and Virgin
Islands are getting good care and doing fine, when they are not. A man who wants
to take health care from the poor.

As I understand the Christian religion it's about love, and helping the poor, and above
all the children. I can see why someone in the Religous right not aprove of homosexuals
and abortion, but no one is telling them to be gay, or have an abortion. They can
disprove of anything they want, but to tell others they can't love someone of the
same sex or a different race or no choice to have a baby or not is wrong.

This country was founded on religious freedom. Not any one religion as the far
right would have us believe.

Religion should lead by example, not by force of law. Countries who are theocracies
have few if any personal freedoms that are contrary to the state religioun. We should
remember the days when religions tortured and burnt people at stakes because they
wouldn't agree with a state religion.

I am sure Trump and the religious right would deny they want a theocracy, but I can
see someone like Trump giving them a cabinet position in the future. Especially if
Trump thought it might give him more votes.

Unfortuantly there are many people who feel one man control of a country is a
good thing. It is not,  no matter how good that one man might be. One man
can easily be corrupted by moneyor blackmail. There will always be people
who would try to control a leader with money or lies. Just like lobbyists who
work to convince our people  in government to make lawsto the advantage
of those they work for. Much of the time it is not in the best interests of
the country.

Trump is a good example of a one man government. Over the last 10 months
he has changed rules and regulations he feels will give him more votes. His
tax reform is for his benifit and his rich friends. Not for the middle class and
the poor. When congress  couldn't change health care he is trying to change
it his self. He is giving big business more access to the enviroment even though
it puts it at risk. Big business and  even small business will put profit over the
enviroment every time. It's up to the government to regulate them.

Free enterprise is a great thing, but without regualtions it will go wild with greed.
That is why we have laws against monopolies, and many other regulations to
control businesses.

Trumps actions with N Korea and Iran may cause us to be
at war in a few months. If we are I fear the public will not
want to change government during a war. I hope this isn't
a plan Trump has in mind. Our anti missile tech is about
50/50 not 97% as Trump claimes. The 97% only applies
if we fire 4 intercepting missiles against every one coming
our way.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 15, 2017, 12:30:33 pm
Trump day 268
President Trump continues to tweet about the NFL Perhaps only between
golf shots. I heard Trump cheats at golf. Not just a little but in a way he
seems to think no one notices. Now cheating at golf isn't all that serious,
but it does show what kind of man he is. It shows he will do anything I
mean anything to win. Even to break the rules to do so. With golf it's just
a childish thing, but where does it end?

By the way while Trump may get cheers when he says how bad the NFL is.
Supporters may boo when a player doesn't stand for the anthem and flag, but
cheer when the game starts. Few if any leave like the VP did. People like
football as much as they do the flag, or national anthem. Perhaps more.


Trump continues to suck up to the Russians. Congress voted to add more
sanctions to Russia, but Trump hasn't implemented them. Even though the
law required them to be on the first of October, 2017. That was two weeks
ago.

Trump continues to disrespect his secretary of state. How can the secretary
do his job if Trump changes his mind without telling the secretary first. Trump
has no respect for diplomacy period. He appears to think if I can't bully or
threaten a country into doing what I want I will destroy them.

Trumps Tax plan will cause some middle class to pay more iln taxes, even more
in the future, and the fat cats like Trump  and his family will  save millions in
taxes.  Oh he denys it, but it isn't the first lie he has told.

Trump lay's blame on the Democrats for preventing his success, but the GOP
could pass just about any law or regulation they want. So it's a dumb excuse
by the GOP and Trump because they can't control members of their own party.

GOP
Will the GOP run scared from Bannon's threats to run people against them
in the primaries? So far they publicly say no, but politicians hardly ever admit
what they really think or feel. So time will tell. Right now I doubt if Bannons
so called League of smart canidates will do very well against the GOP favorites.
People give congress about 12% over all, but their own congress man or woman
over 50%. It's a good ole boy thing. "My daddy voted for him so I will." Or
"He got that bridge built that no one else would." Even if the bridge was nothing
but portk barrel politics.  It's hard to defeat a politician that knows what his
supporters want to hear.

Bannon brags after his man won against the GOP and Trumps pick. Only thing
he didn't stand behind the man who won after the polls showed he would likely
win. Kind of odd for a man who claims he can defeat the GOP members up for
election.

Dem
We aren't hearing much from the Democrats these days. They have a standing
offer to work with the GOP as long as it's a compromise and not a capitulation
to what the GOP and Trump wants to accomplish. The Democrats needs to come
up with  a policy that reflects what the country wants. I think they should say.
"We wil impeach Trump" Perhaps the VP if his hands are dirty too. They need to
say this because the GOP will claim it anyway. Also say they will listen to the
GOP about abortion, but not take womens rights to have one away. Women
should have a right to make dieticians about their own health and body.

I think people want the Democrats to be out spoken on their policy. I think a
lot of people liked Senator Sanders because he stood up for what he believed.
If people didn't want it, so be it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 16, 2017, 12:58:29 pm
Trump day 269
President Trump expects everyone in his Cabinet to swear an Loyalty
oath. Well everyone who works for the governlment swears an other to
support the constitution. Trump asking for an oath of loyality is just
a hangup for Trump. Something he demanded from all those who worked
for him in the past.

Trump keeps saying he is just trying to fulfill his campaign promises. Then
why isn't he working to give everyone affordable health care like he promised?
Seems he only fulfills the promises he wants to and makes excuses why he
doesn't do them all. Seems his only plan is to destroy everything Obama  tryed
to do good or bad. Now he wants to lower inspections for the food we eat. I
suppose not only does he want to cut health care, he wants to cut inspections
for the food we buy and eat.

He seems to think regulations aren't needed. Like everyone is honest and wouldn't
hurt anyone to save money or time. In his tax plan he trys to tell us that industry
will use tax savings to cut prices and increase worker pay. Well I have news for
Trump, big business works to make money for themselves, not the people they use
to make it. Not to say they all are like this, but many of them are.

I think getting rid of regulations is to help Trumps businesses to make money for
hisself and his family and friends. I am sure some regulations do little good, and
it's good to revisit their usefulness, but removing them without study is bad.

Trump is treating his cabinet like a board of directors in a big business. Wanting
them to report how much they have cut spending instead of the job they are doing
for the public. He continues to ask for the wall with Mexico, but doesn't mention
immigratioin and drugs from the far east to the west coast.

Trump continues to claim rich people are the best for government agency leaders and
blaims the democrats when the GOP runs congress. These so called smart people end
up spending tax dollars to continue the life style they are accostomed to while doing a
poor job for the agency Trump offered them to run.

Trump said he stopped the subsidies for health insurance to get congress and the
insurance talking. These subsidies are there so the working poor can get health care
not to make the insurance companies rich. If Trump thinks insurance is too high
then go after them not the working poor.

GOP
Trump continues to claim his failures are due to the democrats even though the
GOP is in control of the goverhment. It's the GOP who isn't getting things done
not the Democrats. The GOP spent 7 years saying NO to Obama, now they don't
know how to properly pass anything. They have too many radicals to do a proper
job. Trump has little or no plan other than saying "Get it done"

The GOP was lobbied to change wording in a law to limit distribution of Dpioids. To
do this GOP members got large contributions for relelection. In all the pharmasutical
industry spent over 100 million to get the change done. So they can sell all the
Oploids they want. Kind of shows how big the profits are with drugs when the
drug industry will spend huge sums to lobby congress. Trump claims he wants to
lower drug costs. Time will tell if he really means it.

Dem
I hope the democrats can get their act together. They need to be working to get
more democrats in state governments. Otherwise the GOP will use them to keep
control of the federal government. 2020 will bring a new census and GOP controlled
state will gerrymander state districts so help keep GOP members in congress. They
know they are a minority party and will do anything to stay in power. Even to stop
people from voting especially if those voters are for democrats.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 17, 2017, 12:29:46 pm
Trump day 270
President Trump took questions for 40 minutes. As usual he takes
questions then twists them to suit his self. He was asked about his
contacting the families of the soldiers killed in Africa. He tried twist
it to say Obama didn't do it, which Obam always did. Then after
pressed he said he planned to mail them a letter soon. This proves
Trump doesn't really care about the military as much as he claims.
It reminds me of when he was disrespectful to the Gold Star family
during the campaign. Even to say Mc Cain wasn't a good soldier
because he was captured. Perahaps Trump doesn't respect an
soldier who is captured or killed. Kind of seems that way.

It has been two weeks since the soldiers were killed. Trump has played
golf more than once since, so there he has no excuse for the delay.

Trump stood with the leader of the senate. Both claiming how friendly they
are. I hardly think friends would be cussing each other over the phone which
had been reported a few weeks ago. It seems all Trump has to do is tell the
GOP to jump, and they ask how far. They are kissing up to him. So sad.
Seems only members of the GOP who are willing to say what they think
about Trump are retiring.

A panel of professional psychiatrists claim Trump isn't mentally fit to  be president. In
fact they claim he a danger to the security of the country, and could at a moment of
rage could push the nuclear button. Under the 25th amendment Trump should be
removed from office until a bipartisan panel of psychiatrists can certify Trumps
mental health. I rather doubt this will happen because they know Trump would
retaliate against the GOP even if he was or wasn't cirtified as fit. So it's likely we will
stay in the hands of a man who is likely mentally ill. Who could start a nuclear war
during a tramper tantrum.
 

Congress should pass a law that would require congress to approve the use of
nuclear weapons except to respond to an nuclear attack. There is a bill in work
to do this, but the GOP is stalling it's passage. Odd as it would affect any
president, not just Trump.

President Trump has already hurt this countrys standing in the world. We are
not the beacon of hope for those who wish freedom, and has helped those
who wish to have total authority over their population. No longer do we
reach out to help people in other countries to gain more freedom.
We only help fight terrorists who might attack our homeland.

Trump wants to make the USA a business interprise instead of a country who
leads the world in the persuit of human rights and freedom.

Trump has no shame. Stoping subsidies to insurance for the ACA costs
us all.

GOP
They only have 30 working days in 2017 to finish the budget,
tax reform/cuts, health care, infrastructure, and several other
bills. I wonder how much they really manage to get done
this year.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 18, 2017, 01:19:56 pm
Trump day 271
President Trump a man with little respect for the feelings of others
talked to the mother of one of the soldiers killed. He made a comment
that it getting killed was something her son accepted when he joined
the military. Such a cold unfeeling statement shows how little he
understands one of the basic requirements by a president to  give
comfort and respect to remaining family of those he sends into danger.
Instead he turns the whole issue in to a political football.

Now Trump claims he didn't say it. Trump has a habit to say others lie
to cover his mistakes or indiscression. He isn't a moral person. He didn't
even remember the soldiers name or the womans name.

Trump is trying to push tax reform /cuts, can't stay on subject as usual.
Just has to defend his self, no matter how imoral he acts.

GOP
The  attorney general is answering questions in committee today. About his
converstations with the Russians and the Trump campaign. He claimed he
didn't even talk with Russans, later he admitted talking with them.

The bipartisan work to reinstate the subsidies for the ACA is in work. Time
tell if it goes anywhere. Trump is for it one minute and against it the next.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 19, 2017, 12:37:53 pm
Trump day 272
President Trump is very good at stiring up the anger
some people have toward government, but he cares not
for anyone but Trump.

People may think Trump ran for office to make america
great again, but he ran to fill a personal and financal
need of his own. Trump is a pitiful man who will put s
us all at risk, and his only worry is having to stand
over our dead soldiers frowning because they didn't win
for him.

A man who had time to play golf, but not enough time to
console the parents of brave soldiers who died for our
country. Then when he is forced to do it, he knows not
how, and is afraid to admit it. Every president since
Lincoln understood their duty to console the fmailys of
those who died serving our country.

I think the reason he didn't want to talk about
the soldiers who died in Africa, is because France pulled
our men out, and he doesn't seem to respect those who
die or get captured. Just as he gave no respect to Mc Cain
during his campaign.

Trump claims the stock market is growing due to him.
The market grew studily durning Obama's time in office.
Trump called the rise a bubble during his campaign,
but he has forgot the term bubble now. I fear the stock
marrket is over priced, and is likely due for a big adjustment,
or even a large drop if there a big selloff. The markets
around  the world have been supported by big banks for
several years. This isn't likely to last.

In spite of Trump claiming big business needs tax relief, they
 are growing with large profits. That's another reason the market
is doing well.


GOP
The bipartisan bill to reverse Trumps action to stop the
substidies to help the working poor get health insurance
via the ACA. Has apparently been stalled because Trump
wanted it stopped, and we know the GOP won't oppose
Trump. Hopefully they do pass it over his objections.

In the senates Judicial committee the atterney general
dodged and danced around questions of his involvement
with Trumps firing of the director of the FBI. Also questions
about his involvement with the Russans during Trumps
campaign. Mostly by claiming Trump might not want him to
answer.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 20, 2017, 12:28:31 pm
Trump day 273
The president had the gall to say he has done a great job
in Puerto Rico after four weeks  of making excuses of
why the people there should be doing more on their own.
Trump keeps hollering "Fake" news. I think we should start
calling him a "Fake" president.

Claiming they are lazy. The govenor of Puerto Rico appeared
to be prasiing Trump. Perhpas hoping it get more help for
Puerto Rico and the American citizens therein.

I saw on my local  tv station an advertisement saying the
democrats are blocking tax cuts. Well if anyone is blocking
tax cuts it's the GOP as they are running the country. I think
this is only the beginning of the GOP trying to pass the blame
for their do nothing work to the democrats.



People standing  lines for water, ice, food and fuel for generators.
Sleeping in the open or in homes with no roofs. Trump talking about
how much money Puerto Rio owes. Much of which they owe to Trumps
fat cat buddies. Trump shouldn't be talking as he is going to Russia to
borrow money because banks his credit isn't worth anything here.  I
understand the VP put the state of Indiana deep in debt, when he was
govenor. I wonder why Trump hasn't mentioned that.

GOP
The conservatives in the GOP again are pushing to privatize the
VA. So all you veterans out there may get to buy insurance for
health care. I wonder how that will work as many veterans have
health problems. Existing health problems due to service. I can
imagine the private insuance industry will want rather large
premiums to cover veterans with existing issues.

I should say it's mainly a proposal right now, but bears
close watching.

Just more proof that the GOP and the Trump administration
doesn't really care for our veterans. They will use the excuse
they want to give veterans better care. We have heard about
veterans having to wait months to  get care. I think this isn't
as much of a problem now, but it will be another excuse to kill
the VA. I doubt if the GOP will provide enough money to pay for
insurance or medicine the vetreans will need to get the same care
through the VA now.

Turns out in Wisconsin last November 11% of democrat voters
didn't vote because of restrictive voting laws. The GOP has been
working to make it harder to hccrpss the mation. With the excuse
to stop non existant voting fraud.  A claim that is just to help the
GOP win elections as there is no proof of significan voter fraud. We
should be incuraging people to vote, not discouraging them.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 21, 2017, 12:22:11 pm
Trump day 274
President Trump is interviewing possible nominees for atterney
general for the area Trump Tower in New York  sits. And in
Washington DC. It's possible Trump is wanting people that won't
come after him for legal offenses.  Also Trump has nominated
unqualified men for federal judges. Some have radical religious
opinons. I fear people in the LGBT community may be facing tough
times if these kind of people  are made federal judges. Much less
womens rights.

It seems Trump feels it's okay to bend or break the law if he
can get away with it.

By the way Trumps tax cuts will increase the national debt by over a
Trillion dollars. That's a 1000 billion people. These tax cuts are for
corporations, and the fat cats like Trump. By the time the middle
class finds how little the tax reform/cut works for them it will be too
late. Anyone notice the way it seems Trumps belly is growing?
Perhaps it's those fancy chocolate cakes. Maybe he should leave
his golf cart at the club house. LOL.

Trump apparently sent his chief of staff out to back him up on his
unfeeling phone call to a greving mother about her son being
killed. This is something Trump should have done personally
instead of hiding behind a spokesman. Chief of staff Kelly not
only backed up Trump, he lied about the florida congress woman
who told the press what Trump said. A black woman who who
has done much for her district, and is a close friend of the
family of the fallen soldier. Chief Kelly turns out
to not only support Trump, he acts like him, and after
telling a false story about the congress woman he should
hang his head in shame.

The Trump administration put the African country of Chad
on a list of Moslem countries that can't get visa's to the USA.
So the leader of Chad pulled his army out of the area our
men were killed in. Trump had no business putting Chad
on the no visa to the USA list. They were helping us fight
Isis terrorists in the neighboring country untill Trump screwed
up. It's very possible this was a direct cause for the deaths of
the soldiers. If the Chad soldiers had been there the sneak
attack probably couldn't have happened. Trump never seems
to think about cause and effect in foreign policy.

Puerto Rico has had less than a third the aid and help Texas
recieved after the hurricane hit them. The army could have
provided fuel, water, ad transportation to the american citizens
there. Trump claims he has done a great job, but it's more
like a fake job. almost 60,000 people  have moved to the
mainland in the past month. They could turn Florida into
a blue democrat state for the next election and for 2020.

A news man asked Trump, how about making Puerto Rico a
state?. Trump replied, 'Not now". Well I think this would
be a good time to do it. They have applyed several times
over the years. They pay taxes, and their young people
serve in the military. But congress continues to stall on
the application for statehood for Puerto Rico, and the
Virgin Islands.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 22, 2017, 12:28:18 pm
Trump day 275
It's only 90 days till Trumps first year of being president is over. So far
he has done little but undo Obama's regulations, and even trying to
remove protection for the enviroment. Trump complains that the GOP
hasn't passed anything for him to sign. It's mostly due to his lack of
leadership. Instead he tweets and plays Golf.

Trump continues to poke the leader of N Korea by shows of force by
our military. I hardly think the leader of N. Korea has to be shown
our military power. If he was that stupid I doubt if he would be
a leader. I still think Trump hopes N Korea will do something
that Trump will feel he has a right to respond to. At that point
it's likely to increase to all out war.

I understand about 50% of Trumps supporters think we
should go to war with N. Korea. I wonder if they would
still feel that way if the military draft was in effect. I
haven't heard of people lining up to join the armed
forces. Would Trump still be pushing N. Korea
if his family was at risk?  I doubt it. He got out of going
to Viet Nam because a doctor said he had bad feet. Yet
he is a big golf player. Guess his feet improved.

Trump and the GOP complain about the national debt, then they want
to cut taxes for big business and the ric to the tune of about 200 billion
a year. "Oh it will grow the econ9my" The cry of the GOP, but  there is
no evidence of it working. They point to the 1980's with the Reagan
tax cuts. Well it was huge cut which did work to make the rich a lot
richer. The middle class lost over the years since then.

The age old claim that trickle down economics will help the worker
by helping big business. This is false as big business rarely passes
any savings along to their workers. That's why unions were started.
Big business almost always fails to increase benefits to their workers.
It's human nature to be greedy, and big businessmen are no exception.
CEO's will get millons in bonuses while the workers get nothing.
Along with Trump and his fat cat friends in his cabinet.

It is a big shame that the GOP still fails to support equality for men and
women. Trump runs woment down by saying they will let hem do what
ever he likes, even sexually.  I think the biggest reason H. Clinton lost was
because she is a woman. I heard local women say. "I don't think a woman
should be president." Yes even women say it. Also many women will follow
their husbands wishes, a friend of mine said he always tells his wife how to
vote. I think many men treat their wives more like children than an intelligent
individual. It's probably a hang up from the past when women felt they
had to act dependent and give up all decisions to their husbands. Otherwise
they would end up an old maid with no support. Girls were taught this as
children. To feed the ego of men.  Boys were taught they must protect
women (The weaker sex ) To think they are too ignorant to survive on
their own. This is changing, but will take time as many religions give
men rule over women. Or at least emply it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 23, 2017, 12:04:05 pm
Trump day 276
President Trump continues adding to his shame over his argument and lack
of respect for the family of the fallen soldier he started last week. Trump is
unable to apologize for anything he does, no matter how bad.

It's this crazy way of thinking that could cause us to end up in a war. I hope
his supporters hold Trump responsible for his bad actions as well as those
they feel are good. The GOP sure hasn't.

Trumps test walls are almost finished. He will go to the site where they built
them to check out how they look and perhpas watch someone try to scale
them. Well they won't keep drugs, and people who are determined to cross.
Reports show boarder crossings are the lowest in many years. A big problem
that gets little attention is it will disrupt migrations of wild animals. I am sure
cares little for the migration problems of wild animals. Many wild animals
migrate accross the region every year.


GOP
Our friendly GOP wants to reduce the amount of money people can put in IRA's
that isn't taxable. From 18,000.00 a year to 2,400.00 a year. Why? To pay for
the big tax cuts for corporations and the rich fat cats like Trump. I wonder if
Trumps supporters like that? Trump is claiming it's not true, but it's in the GOP
proposal in the new tax bill.

Trump claims the new tax bill will give workers pay raises, because of the tax
savings to Corporations. Why not just cut taxes for the workers instead? Big
business never passes along tax savings to anyone but stock holders.
and most big stock holders don't need the money except to feed their greed.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 24, 2017, 01:20:53 pm
Trump day 277
President Trump like most politicians lie and tell half truths to mislead
the public and their supporters. This business of Trickle down economics
never works the way he and the GOP claims it does. Also bottom up
regulations don't work near as well as top down regulations do. Local
government can be intimidated by big business in a way they can't
the state or federal government. That's why big business likes local
regulations.

Trump and the GOP are promising to create millions of high paying
jobs, when they have failed to do it time and time again. The GOP is
run by big business. So they will never with honesty work to help
the little guy or gal. The working man or woman are just tools of
the trade to big business. This is why people need unions to protect
workers rights.

The GOP promises tax cuts to gain prosperity. But all it does is
increase the national debt. Everytime the democrats work for
economic responibility the GOP calls it tax and spend. When
President Clinton left office we had a balanced budget. So it
goes back and forth.

Trump promises jobs, but the world is changing and even
Trump doesn't have products he sells made in the USA.
Automation is the future so factery work for humans will
be a thing of the past in the not too distant future. Any
job that is repetitious will be automated. It's likely the
service industry is the best future for the common worker. 

The people like tax cuts so the GOP use them to get elected,
not to reduce the debt with a growing as they claim. Neither
party is without guilt so we all need to work to put the best
people in government.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 25, 2017, 01:22:49 pm
Trump day 278
President Trump made his way to the capital to meet with  with
senators as part of a lunch meeting.  According to reports even
though he went there to promote his tax plan he  ended up talking
about how much he has done in the last 9 months. This seems
to be a habit of Trump. He has to talk about his self and forgets
the important subject at hand.

The Trump administration is working to prevent a teenage girl
who is a immigrant from having a legal abortion at her
own expense. A federal court judge told the government to
allow her to have the abortioin, but the Trump administration
continues to not allow the girl her rights. It appears those
holding her are trying to prevent the abortion untill the
pregnancy has gone past the point she can get a legal abortion.
The man Trump apointed by Trump who can release the girl is
a radical who is totally against abortions and has even put the girl
through unwanted counseling trying to convince her to not have
the abortion. Just another case where Trump cares more about
his supporters than the rights of others.

Trump is reaching out to  religious radicals and their followers
for their votes. People who have murdered doctors who preform
abortions, and acts of hate against the LGBT community. People
have a right to speak out even if it's hate, but they don't have a
right to push their beliefs on others.

Trump continues to  make tweets against against senators and
those in congress. The very people he needs to pass his agenda.
It's more proof Trump has no idea how to be president of our
country. He claimed to drain the swamp, and turned around and
filled it with fat cat billionaires. He may think rich people are very
smart, but many of them got rich by stepping on others. The way
they spend tax dollors for them selves and to keep their life style
shows it.

People might be okay with Trump blowing tax dollars to keep his
billionaire life style, but I don't think the people want to see it in
 those he hires to help run the country, and most of them have
done a poor job of it. It's likely because public service doesn't work
the same as running a business. Something Trump needs to learn.

Investigations about the soldiers who were killed in Africa continue.s
It turns out they didn't have much battlefield experience. Not to
say they weren't good soldiers, but I kind of think even well trained
soldiers need experience to be the best at what they do. It appears
their mission may have been changed to trying to go after a local
Isis recruiter. Did they have proper planning or support? Hopefully
if there was a fault it won't be repeated in the future.

A US company was giving a $300 million dollar contract to help rebuild
the power grid in Puerto Rico. This may have been a deal made because
they were a friend of someone in the Trump administration. The company
is owned and run by 2 people.  The last contract they had was a million
dollar job here in the states. The costs appear to be large for the work
needed. There are some complaints by other power compainies saying
they should have been given the job because of multistate agreements
where power compainies work to help each other. Only thing is it has
the appearence of being a deal made for politics instead of for the
benifit of the people of Puerto Rico.

Hopefully the job is done correctly. Sometimes people in deals like
this aren't that good.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 26, 2017, 11:50:58 am
Trump day 279
President Trump and the GOP is trying to cover up or
divert attention from Trumps involvement with Russia.
They are trying to say the Russian thing is just the
democrats making an excuse for why they lost, and the
real Russian deal is with H. Clinton and the Obama
admistration over the sale of uranium. H. Clinton didn't
get any money for making the deal. Though now the
GOP will likely spend millions more in tax dollars
investigating this. This occurred seven years ago. If it's
such a big deal how come the GOP waited till now to
worry about it? It wasn't secret as nine government
agencies signed off on the deal.

Trump still hasn't implemented the sanctions on Russia
passed by a huge majority in both houses of congress.
This was supposed to be done by October 01 2017.
Congress has requested that Trump impliment them,
kbut so far he has ignored the request. So it appears
Trump is still sucking up to Putins Russia for some
reason, perhaps it's money he owes to Putin. I hope
congress forces Trump into acting, but somehow I
think the GOP is too afraid of Trumps tweets to make
Trump do anything.

The GOP and Trump should worry about the business of
government instead of chasing political dog biscuts.

Today the GOP in the senate voted to prevent people from
sueing banks for cheating customers. Trump sent the VP
over to break a 50/50 tie vote to defeat the bill that
would allow people the right to sue banks. I wonder
how the GOP will argue this was a good thing when millions
of people are often cheated by big banks and financial
institutions. Perhaps this can be implimented once the
GOP is removed from power. It was reported  the senators
had been lobbied for days by the banking  industry to block
the bill. Trump had campaigned he would limit lobbyists,
but if anything there are more than ever before.

This is just more sucking up to rich supporters by the
GOP. They could limit how much money people could spend
for getting elected, but i am sure the advertising industry
would lobby to defeat such a action. They make billions
from election advertising, and would not want that to
change.

Trump and the GOP claim they are working together,
but little is being done. The tax cut in work for
the rich supporters of the GOP may be hard to get
done. Trump makes it hard for the GOP to  work
out deals behind the scene. So time will tell.

Today Trump bragged about being a studend of an Ivy
league college. This means little toward intelligence.
All a person needs is a good memory to pass tests, and
it wouldn't surprise me if he bought copys of some tests.
We would never know if he did, but it does happen. I
think most of us forgot most of what we learned in 
school. Schools are to teach people how to learn. How
to work out problems, how to use knowledge. It's
apparent Trump didn't learn much on how to learn.
He is a fine salesman,  and knows how to manipulate
people but otherwise he just lies, and bullies his way
thorugh life. As people get to know him they soon
find out how to use him. And not to do business  with
or for him.

Even after 5 weeks most of the people of Puerto Rico
are without power, running water, and other necessities.
People are having to resort to natural springs and
streams for drinking water. The storm caused the deaths
of many animals, so their rotting bodies are polluting
streams and springs. So far over 70 cases of serious
illness has perhaps resulted from tainted water. If
the death toll from this kind of thing grows, there
will and should be an investigation for not providing
clean water for the citizens of our nation.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 27, 2017, 01:00:53 pm
Trump day 280
President Trump said he would release all documents on the
Kennedy assassination on thursday. Turns out some agency's
wanted to go over the documents to  black out any information
that might effect national security. Seems odd there could be
sensitive material remaining after 55 years.  In my opinion it's
about covering mistakes than security. Even though Trump claimes
transparency it's likely many pages will have parts blacked out.

The white house is claiming the govenor of Puerto Rico signed
off on the $300 million dollar contract to repair their power
grid. Congress is instigating since there is the appearance
the secretary of the interior who lived in the same town
where the compainy is located.  May have pushed to get the
tiny Whitefish company the contract. Reports are the whole
thing hasn't followed Fima rules and could be rejected even
though work has been started. Then again with Trump who
can say.

The house of representatives voted for a tax reform yesterday.
Though it was a close vote with 20 GOP members voting NO.
It's not likely to become law in it's current form as it takes
away deductions for local and state taxes. A lot of people
who live in areas where due to large incomes pay close to
$40,000.00 in local and state tax. They won't want to
loose this kind of a deduction on their federal taxes.

I am concerned in their hunt to save money to cut taxes
for the rich they will  start taking money from those who
can least afford it.

Trump is returning to the past once more. Claiming advertising
to tell people never to start taking drugs will solve the drug
problem. The "Just say No" push when president Reagan
was in office never worked. So here we go again. The
GOP is trying to save a dollar instead of spending the money
it takes to get people off the drugs. Highly addictove drugs
requires help to escapte it. I think it all goes back to the drug
industry out to make money by pushing dangerously addictive
medication. They told doctors it's not addictive if the use was
supervised by a doctor. Even though they knew the Diploids
are highly addictive.

In the past the GOP felt drug use was a problem for poor
minorities  not white people. Well I think they are finding out
even many of the people who voted for the GOP are addicted
and dieing. If they ignore them they will pay the price in 2018.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 28, 2017, 12:39:29 pm
Trump day 281
President Trump came out calling women who are claiming they were
sexually harassed or attacked liers. He may be talking about women
who are saying he has, but it looks like he is calling all women
liers when they claim sexual harassment. Either way Trump hasn't
any credibility for calling anyone a lier. Much less women who
have been mistreated.

Reports say Special counsil Muller has filed charges against someone,
but it is under seal, so we will have to wait to see whohas been charged.

Perhaps this is why Trump and the GOP have been trying to
shift blaim to anyone but Trump and company for involement
with the Russians. They may have some info that is causing
them worry. If they can discredit the special counsil Muller,
they might not have to follow his recommendations or charges
the justest department might not want to procecute.

Trump is complaining the democrats paid for information about
and the Russians. Turns out a GOP started supporter started
and paid for it till Trump as nominated. Then the democrats
paid to keep the investigation going. Seems strange to me
that even though the investigation was finished in October
2016, the democrats didn't release it before the election.
Trump has no room to complain because he would have
done the same thing given the chance, and probably did.


The eastern district atterney for Virgina resigned. Seems
odd since he appeared to like the job just two days earlier.
He had been doing quite a bit of work for the justice
department so one can only wonder why he resigned.
Could it be he was asked to do something unelthical?
Only time will tell.

It may boil down to wither the GOP will try to come up
with excuses for Trump or not. If special counsil Muller
brings charges to Trump and ore others who were in his
campaign. Will the GOP or the justice depoartment do their
duty or not. If they don't it will be up to the American
people to remove those in the government who won't do
their constitutional duty, by voting for new members. Be they
republican or democrats. If the people do not, we will be at the
mercy of Trump who will very likely start a war with Iran and
or N Korea. If it goes nuclear millions will likely die, and many
may be here in the USA.

It seems the GOP and Trump both feel they must have someone
to blame for their short comings. So they attack H. Cclinton,
Obama, and the News media. The GOP or Trump have no sharme. They spend
millions of tax dollars investigating only for political gain.  At the same time
they want to shut down the special counsil claiming it's a waste of money.

Congress voted to change the senate rules so it only takes 50 votes to
pass their tax bill. I am sure the GOP would have had a fit if the democrats
did this.  And they did when the democrats reduce the needed votes to
approve federal judges.. It should take at least 60 votes to change rules
that affect the whole senate or the country.

I think they are just trying to confuse the public so they can continue to
protect president Trump. So the GOP can pass tax cuts for their rich
supporters. I know people hate to admit they voted for a bad person,
they best wake up or they may find themselves wishing they had
never heard of Trump.

Here is a link to a web site that covers the Russian investigation.

www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)

I fear it will be up to the voters before it's over.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 29, 2017, 12:42:10 pm
Trump day 282
President Trump continues to say all is going well in Puerto Rico, and now it
appears the Trump administration was complicit in hiring a tiny power
company run by 2 people were given a $300 million dollar contract. Then
they try to point to the govener of Puerto Rico. Who is doing all he can to
get power restored. He is now saying the contract should be cancelled.

I doubt if we ever find out how this company got the contract, but Fima
is claiming they didn't approve it.

The GOP and Trump are still trying to divert attention from Trumps involvement
with Russia to a investigation of H.Clinton over a sale of an uranium mine in
Canada to Russia. She had no part in deciding if the sale was approved or not.
It's just Trump trying to get elected all over again. Even after almost a year he
continues to tell us how he won the election. The only reason he won is due to
the electoral system of electing presidents, because he lost the popular vote
by 3 millon votes. He knows it and it drives him crazy.

I think it's time the GOP and Trump started doing their jobs according to the
constitution. Not to make money for them selves, or to stay in office.  It's
time they hold people accounable for the law,  not for political gain.

The GOP leadership tries to claim the investigations of the special counsil
Muller are not valid. Muller is a member of the GOP and was the director of
theFBI for over a decade. There is no reason to say he will favor one party
over the other. Even though some in the GOP are trying to say he should
resign and end his investigation to stop.

Trumps complaints about special counsil Muller could add to his problems.
When a president makes a statement it has an effect which can be called
abuse of power. He even implied Mullers decisions are political.

I think the only reason Trump hasn't been impeached is for political
reasons. The GOP is afraid of Trumps supporters. They would have started
impeachment of H. Clinton in the first month if she had done what Trump
did in his first week of office. Because he then and now hasn't followed the
Constitution which he swore to do when he took the oath of office.

I am thinking it will be women voters who will come out to save us all.
They don't have the ego probem many men have. Women will admit
to themselves they made a mistake when men won't. Women in the past
have stood up for children, and the disadvantaged. I think they know
better than anyone else what war does to loved ones and family.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 30, 2017, 12:39:36 pm
Trump day 283
President Trump claims the indictment of Paul Manifort, and Rick Gates
doesn't show any collusion with him and Russia. This may be true, but
these people were high up in his campaign. So this can't be good for
Trump. This link should have more information.

www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)

Trump may feel this has nothing to do with them, but I imagine Special
Counsil Muller has a lot yet to come. So Trump may need a sweat band
for his head . He was braggine about how much these people did for him.
It appears he may be going to toss them under the bus by claiming he was
fooled by them. Trump and the GOP should have done background checks
on them. Even if Trump didn't know it makes him look bad. After all he
cliamed time and time again he knew the best people and would hire
 them.

The Trump people are saying George Popodopolis was only a unpaid forign
adviser. The fact he pleaded guilty may mean he is making a deal to tell
all he knows about Trump and Russia.

The GOP has dragged their feet on the investigation of the Trump campaign
and to find out how Russia hacked our election. They should be working to
prevent mare attacks in the future. When the 911 attack was made congress
created a special commission to investigate it. They should have done this to
help prevent more attacks on our democracy.. Instead they cower, worrying if
they investigate Trump they won't be relected. It's time they do their job, and
if they don't they should be kicked out.

Time will tell, but this could be the beginning of the end for president Trump
and company.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 30, 2017, 03:16:19 pm
With all the news about Manafort, FBI, indictments, etc. going on, all I could think of was Johnny Cash's song "Burning Ring of Fire" going through my head.  :D

"I fell into a burning ring of fire,
I went down, down, down and the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns,
The ring of fire, the ring of fire."


When Trump and his associates play with fire, they're going to get BURNED!  :D  :D  :D

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 31, 2017, 01:31:30 pm
I think he is feeling the burn now Kobuk.  :D

Trump day 284
President Trump appears to be trying to hide behind H Clintons skirts,
because this uranium business is nothing but nonsense. No uranium was
shipped to Russia. The secretary of defense, and others at the time signed
off on the deal. H. Clinton had nothing to say about it.

Trump is claiming all the charges was about things done before his
campaign. Even though Manifort was still moving money during
the campaign.

Also Trump is claiming George Popodopois had little to do with
him or his campaign. Even though he was trying to work a deal
with Putin to build a Trump Tower in Moscow during the Trump
campaign. At the Time Trump was saying he didn't have any
deals with Russia inwork or not.

The GOP didn't  say much about this deal, but I think they just
want to see it go away. They want to cut the taxes they promised
for their rich supporters.

It's likely the GOP will be facing big losses next year. Even
with Trump begging everyone to vote for the GOP.

It turns out facebook spread fake messages
from Russia. It's likely over 120 million people
read them. It's time for the GOP to admit we
need to take this serious and get busy to
prevent a repeat for the next election.
Trump tries to claim it's not true. I think he
hates the fact the Russians helped him get
elected.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 01, 2017, 01:04:45 pm
Trump day 285
Well as usual President Trump has no shame. His tweets about the
killing of 8 people by a terrorist in New York was policitcal in nature.
Not only that the comment that the Democrats passed the bill that
setup a imigration program this man used to get into the country.
This was a bipartisan effort instead. Also there is no evidence this
man was a part of any isis plan. The man entered the country 7
years ago. Isis didn't even exsist at the time.

Many policitians are condemning Trump for trying to use this tragedy
for political gain. Both the GOP and democrats. Along with those in
New York. In fact the GOP blocked efforts to remove this imigration
policy.

Trump should be trying to find out why this individual did this. Just
trying to blaim Isis or Islam isn't going to stop it. Treating people
who are different with little or no respect will likely cause more acts
like what happened in New York. We need programs to help them,
telling them their religion is bad, or how they dress is wrong. The best
thing is to  show them the respect they deserve. Each civilization has
cultural habits that look strange to others. We all must try to live together
in harmony. Nothing is perfect, but if we don't try, nothing will change.

Trump is even hinting that this mans family might be thown out of the
country. This will only create more hate. Trump doesn't seem to understand.
He just wants to build a wall, and hire more immigration agents.

The GOP in the house was going to vote on their Tax Cut. Apparently
they don't have the votes yet, or even a workable bill. I kind of doubt
if many want to vote to remove tax deductions for state and local taxes.
I am sure they will continue trying to find a way to  pay for their big tax
cut. I fear they will take money from those whoneed it most, then give
to their rich supporters who don't need a dime.

Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 02, 2017, 01:12:18 pm
Trump day 286
President Trump continues to lie. He made the claim the investigation
about his contacts with the Russians cost the democrats 12 million
dollars. Well the costs was less than $150,000 dollars instead. A bit
over one percent of what Trump claims they spent. Besides the cost
is irreverent. It's the facts prodused that count. So far none of the
report has been proven wrong. Perhaps that's why Trump wants us to
believe it's a fake investigation, and finished document. As much as
Trump complains he would have done the same given the chance.

Trump is talking to his buddy Steve Bannon by phone almost every day.
He is getting lots of advice about how to keep his job as president. I
think anything Trump does trying to stop special counsil Muller will
just add to  his troubles.

Trump was bad mouthing the New York democrat senator for having a law
that lets people into the country. When this senator tried to remove the
law several years ago, but was stopped by the GOP. Trump never listens
to anyone but the people on far right news. Trump has a large staff that
he could call on for the facts, but listens to the far right news instead.
Then he feels he has to double down to keep from lookinng weak to
his base. If Trump was the good leader he claims to be he would
check the facts, and go after those promoting fake news that
the far right media. They are bought and paid for by a far right
billionaire. Who supports Steve Bannon.

The hospital chip "Comfort" that was sent to Puerto Rico finally sailed
into port after 7 weeks. After only caring for nine people a day off
shore it's now cared for 700 people over the past weekend.. Many
of which stood on the docks waiting to board the ship. I don't know
what the excuse was, but it's good the  U.S. citizens of Puerto Rico
are finally able to get the care they need.

Trump claimes jobs are returning since he took office. So far it's lots
of promises. Time will tell if it's true or just more lies. A few thousand
jobs means little when millions will be needing work. Not low wage
jobs the GOP is famous for either.  Now the GOP is calling their tax
bill a jobs bill. They should call it "Lets make the rich richer" instead.
Time will tell, but it's likely the middle class will take it on the chin
again. Ever since the big Reagan tax cut the middle class hasn't kept
up with inflation. But the rich got a lot richer. If this tax bill makes
it. It will likely do the same. The GOP claims businesses will hire and
pay more to their workers. If that was the case workers would have
never needed unions. CEO's are are always lookinng for a  way to cut
costs, and it's the little guy that looses.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 03, 2017, 12:45:08 pm
Trump day 287
President Trump is using his salesmanship trying to sell the GOP
tax cut plan. This plan saves Trump 10's of millions in taxes by
removing the minim tax rule. It will save his kids over $500
million dollars in inheritance tax when Trump takes his last
breath. It will save Trump millions in taxes for his businesses.
Trump said the plan didn't save him any money. Perahaps he
doesn't consider millions of dollars amounting to anything. Yet
he charges the secret service $10,000 dollars to use golf carts
at his golf resorts. People who keep him and his family safe.

Now you might not mind Trump using his office to make huge
sums of money, but I think it's unamerican for a president to 
do anything but serve the good of the people. not his good.

The GOP claims they are getting rid of corporate Tax deductions, but
they don't want to tell us what they are. They say they are
cutting corportate taxes to 20%, but they are only paying 18% now.
Unless they take away deductions they will have a net increase in
I think that's why the GOP won't tell us which deductions if any they
are removing.

Trump and the GOP claim big business will hire more people and
pay them more. The stock market proves big business has money
coming out of their ears. Their CEO's and directors are getting big
bonuses, and paying dividens for stock holders. Workers are getting
little if anything in pay raises. So tax relief will just make the top
richer.

Trump and the GOP claims big business will pass along it's profits,
but few ever do. Like I said before, it takes Unions to pry money
out of the hands of big business. The GOP knows this and works to
kill unions where it can. If people don't wake up and put people
in government who care for the common people and the country.
We will all be inslaved by the super rich.

I am not against big business, just the the greed most of them
fall into. It takes regulations to control greed. This is why greedy
businessmen work to get rid of regulations. They will do what it
takes to accomplish this. Lie cheat, to mislead the common man
to  vote for them and their puppets. This country needs to increase
taxes on the upper class not lower them. As is people are loosing
buying power with money moving to the super rich. They just move
on to another business when they fail. The common man goes begging
when they do.

Now the vast majority live pretty well in this country, but if even
a small minority goes wanting. Say 20% we could see riots and
the rise of socializim. Not just a little like we have now, but full
blown social change. The super rich would be well advised to read
history. If a country fails the rich often finds themselves in trouble,
or dead.

If the democrats don't get their act together votes will split off
and likely give undeserved wins for the GOP. Power grabs will
just hurt the country. Democrats need to work for the country,
not argue faults for losses. This just gives Trump something to
point to. Trump continues to attack H. Clinton. A sign of a desperate
man in my opinion.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 03, 2017, 01:52:11 pm
Trump and the GOP's tax plan:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/02/news/economy/house-tax-reform-bill-individuals/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/tax-plan-republicans/index.html

Other links about the tax plan.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/opinions/trump-tax-cuts-sachs-opinion/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/tax-reform-republican-plan/index.html

Trump kills rule that would have made it possible for public to sue banks and other financial institutions. :(
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/01/news/trump-repeals-cfpb-arbitration-rule/index.html?sr=fbCNN110217trump-repeals-cfpb-arbitration-rule0251PMStory

For 11 brief minutes, America was great again!  :D Too bad his Twitter account wasn't deleted permanently. :(
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/02/technology/donald-trump-twitter/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 04, 2017, 12:03:32 pm
Thanks for posting the links Kobuk.

Trump day 288
Seems everyone in the the Trump administration has membery problems.
The US Atterney General claims he can't remember any involvement
with Russians, but time and time again he has had to make excuses for
false statements under oath. If you or I had done this we
would be in jail. I hope special counsil Muller brings crimminal
chargese against him.

Trump would like to get rid of the atterney general so he could
appoint someone who would fire special counsil Muller. Trump has
been told firing the AG or the special counsil Muller directly
will increase his troubles. So now Trump is telling the AG to
go after H.Clinton, and the democrats as they are the ones who
asked the Russians for help. This rediculous claim isn't going
anywhere, but the Far right is pushing it hard trying to help
divert attention from Trump and the Russians. Fortuantly the only
people who are falling for this is Trumps supporters. I know it's
hard to admit to ones self they voted for a bad person, but they
need to wake up to the facts, and not listen to the far right and
their misleading fake statements that support Trumps authoritarian 
way of speaking.

Trump is just like a coffee shop politician who feels common sense
fixes will solve americas problems. I wish they would, but when a
guy in a coffee shop can say this and that on what should be done has
little effect. A president can't. When a president speaks it has the
force of law. So commenting on ongoing court cases is the same as
interfering with them. It effectively wrecks the prosecutors
case, and gives the defense amunition to win, because of interference 
by the president the judge has to consider.

If you have ever tried to buy a used car from a  hot shot salesman,
you have good idea of what kind of salesman Trump is, one that
doesn't know anything about what he is selling. "Everything is great.
It's a great deal. and believe me you won't regret is." Mulitply those
comments a dozen times and you have Trump. Next time you watch
Trump on TV listen for his sales tactics. The people in New York
call him a con artist, because they know him.

If the GOP stands aside allowing the far right to get by with
turning the country over to big business. I hope they find them
selves to be a real minority party. Big busianess only uses people
to get rich. They spend as litttle as they can for labor. Even
if they paid nothing in taxes. Which many pay less than 20% now.

Trump like many on Talk Radio will say anything to keep you on his
side. It matters not if it's a lie. He just wants your vote so he can
fatten his wallet. If you think he is out to save you money or help
you get a good job. I am agraid your in for a big disappointment.
Obama left with a growing economy, and Trump hasn't done much
more than make  promises to keep it growing. When those
promises fail I fear the growth will slow, and if the GOP passes
their Tax cut generations will be payingthe national debt. A debt
Trump complained about during his campaign. They  are claiming
4% growth or more with the tax cuts, but it will be difficult at
best to grow to 3%. Currently the average is a little over 2%.
A rate Trump called over rated during the campaign.

Time will tell, but it's likely we are headed for poorer times and
perhaps a war with N Korea by next  summer. A war that could
spread beyond the Korean peninsula to China, and they do have
the means to fire nuclear tipped missiles at any target they want.
Anywhere in the world!!! Our missile defense might stop missiles
from N Korea, and that's a long shot , but not in the numbers
China can fire at us.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 05, 2017, 12:06:57 pm
Trump day 289
President Trump is in the far east playing golf. It would be nice
if he took the same interest in the country as he does his golf game.
We know Trump respects most authoritarian leaders. So when he
meets with them, he may receive some tutelage on how to be better
at being an authoritarian.  He should learn how to be the president of
our country instead.

It's likely the countries he visits will pander to Trumps ego. Then
when they have him floating on a cloud will get him to agree on
deals to  help them and not the USA. You can be sure he will brag
about any success he might have, even a small one.

It has been reported that special counsil Muller has enough evidence
to bring charges up on Trumps ex security adviser. Flynn and Flynns
son. Will Trump pardon Flynn? Trump often bragged on how good
a job he did. If Trump starts giving pardons to protect people who
worked for him. It could be considered an interference of justice by
the president.

Apparently the Trump administration is trying to cover up deaths in
Puerto Rico. There could be over 70 from drinking bad water alone.
Many others have been cremated though reports less than 50
overall. Seems Trump and those working for him feel it's better
to lie than tell the truth.

A book was released by Donna Brazil. The book apparently shows
bad actions by the Clintons during the primaries to defeat Senator
Sandors. Much of what is in the book fails to show the facts. It looks
like the author is just trying to make money with conspiracy theories.
Instead of helping the democrats, it could hurt the party. Trump has
already pointed to it in his foolish attack on H Clinton. It's time Trump
puts the 2016 election behind him.

This includes the democrats. Rehashing past elections isn't going to
help much to win new ones.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 06, 2017, 11:50:08 am
Trump day 290
President Trump and a plane load of his CEO friends are having
meetings in the far east. He is supposed to meet the leaders of
China, S Korea, Japan, Viet Nam, and possibly Russia.

Due to the terrible church Shooting in Texas. I am keeping this
short. President Trump has given his condolences to those who
lost their loved ones.  I do as well. I hope he doesn't try to politicize
this terrible act. The shooter apparently was a white man born in
this country. So Trump can't use it to support his anti immigration
policy.

Hoping for a better day tomorrow.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 07, 2017, 01:46:42 pm
Trump day 291
President Trump and the GOP claim this isn't the time to talk about gun
control. It was interesting how Trump spoke outwhen 8 people were killed
in New York. Saying the justice systemwas a joke. After this he only wants
to say this isn't the time to talk about gun laws. Trump blaims this
shooting on mental illness, but doesn't push for better mental health
care.

If the shooter had been a Moslem, or Mexican immigrant Trump would have
been shouting to the rafters that he warned us and why we need better
immigration control. One wonders if he asked about the shooters ancestry.


When Trump was campaigning to be elected president he said time
and time again. "I will hire the very best people. What he didn't
say was they all would be multimillionaires and billionaires. Many
which have ties to Russia through buisness or investment.Trump
ran H. Clinton down for having connections to wall streat. Even
though he turned around and hired Wall Street billionaires to help
him run the government. Why? Because they are so smart. Well it's
their kind of smarts that caused the recession in 2007, and made
them richer. Now the GOP has in their tax cut bill regulations to
limit investigations of the super rich.

So when Trump drained the swamp he filled it with muney grubbing
alligators who have Russian oilgarch friends. It's no wonder Trump
won't bad mouth Russias Putin. 9 or more of the people Trump
appointed to lead government agencies have Russian connections.

Seems Trump has either a poor memory or ignorance about car manufacturing
as at a news conference in Japan. He asked the Japanese minister if Japan
could build cars in the USA. Well if Trump was really interested in car
manufacturing he would know that Japan does have car factories in the USA.

Saudi Arabia had a big change in the ruleing family. Many have been arrested.
Apparently a power grab by a 32 year old Prince. Odd thing is Trumps son n law
was in Saudi Arabia the week before this, and  was reported to have spent
several late night discussions with the very prince who is takeing power.
It would be interesting to know what those discussions were about. The Saudi's
own several large businesses in the USA. Perhaps that is why Trump sent his
son n law there. If Trump made some kind of deal, I have a hunch it will
be more for his benifit than our country.



 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 08, 2017, 12:39:44 pm
Trump day 292  It's been a year since Trump won against Clinton. Some
felt he would change if elected. Well people his age are slow to change,
and he is proof of it. In fact I think he has become worse.

President Trump spoke in S korea . Mostly a history lesson about what has
happened since the Korean war. The last part was about life in N Korea. He
didn't call the leader of N Korea "Rocket Man" Could it be because he was
under the guns of N Korea in the building he was standing.  He left S. Korea
right after the speach. He was going to visit the boarder of N Korea, but
according to reports it was too foggy to go so Trump had to sip that photo
opertunity. 

Trump also mentioned it was a year after his great win. and he advertises
one of his big golf resorts. I am not going to say which one, but it's near
New York. It would be nice if Trump thought as much about the country as
he does golf.

The GOP had a poor showing in elections one year after 2016. Trump
claims the GOP losses were becuase those running didn't embrace him
enough. I hope the democrats don't get the big head over these wins.
They still need to show the people what they want to do. Even if the
democrats win both houses of congress they will have to deal with a
GOP president.

The GOP is making excuses for the losses. Typical of politicians after
a poor showing.  One bright point was the win by a Transgender
person in Virginias house of delegates. She won against a man who
had been in office for several years. The man who pushed to take
rights away from the LGBT in Virginia.

Hopefully this is a forcast of things to come in 2018.  I am sure the
GOP will work harder to get a legislative win befor the first of the
year.  I am not sure passing a big tax cut for the super rich is going
ti help them alot. Hopefully the GOP will draw back from Trump a
bit after finding support of Trump hasn't helped much in elections.






Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 09, 2017, 01:15:58 pm
Trump day 293
President Trump is saying we shouldn't blame China for making
money any way they can. Is Trump really saying this after all
his campaign talk of how he plans to punish China for how
the way they take advantage of the USA? Sounds like Trump
has been fed a song and dance by China. Or perhaps a backroom
deal to benefit him or family? Sounds like a good conspiracy
theory some would put on Clinton.

Trump may think China will be nice if he is, but he will likely
find out later they don't care how nice he is. They will do what
they feel is good for them.

The secretary of state claims Trump is just making nice with a
tongue and cheek remarks. You can be sure if someone like
Clinton had said it the GOP would have likely called her unamerican. 

The GOP is still pushing the Trickle down economics idea. They
continue to claim business will pass along tax savings to their
employees. Well I have been around long enough to know people
in business are out to make money for themselves, and if there are 
stockholders, give them dividends to encourage more investment in
in their company. It's the CEO and board of directors who get bonuses
if the company makes more in profits. Now some people down line
may get bonuses, but it's rare to see the common worker benefit from
higher profits. Besides tax savings would hardly be seen as a reason
to pass it along in a pay raise.

If the GOP had their way there wouldn't be a minimum wage, much less
raise it. There wouldn't be any cost of living increases, or unions. The GOP
is about business, and ways to make money for business. The worker is
is only important as long as they are needed. Business will get rid of
employees any way they can. They will automate to have fewer workers.
Business is about making money more than jobs.

I know many business do care about their workers. I commend them
for it, but jobs, regulations and taxes is part of how society works. Some
politicians will use all three to gain power, and they work for the benefit
of those who help keep them in office. In the past one could run for
political office at a reasonable cost. Now it's so expensive politicians
spend a lot of their time raising money. It's no wonder they play
to the super rich for money.

The voter needs to watch politicians, and let them know how
they feel. Otherwise the politicians will do what they think is
best. Often that can be what's best for them. Money can
corrupt even the best of us. So we have to keep them in
line.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 10, 2017, 11:58:13 am
Trump day 294
President Trump and the GOP apparently have no shame, It
seems politics overides the rule of law. A ex judge running for
the senate has been accused of being a pedophile. Does the
GOP even care if a child is sexually abused when politics are
involved? I am not saying all members of the party are this
way, but it appears many want to wait and see. I have a hunch
if he had been a democrat it would have been called a terrible
act of imprality. Proof or not. Where is the religious outcry? Where
were they when Trump was accused of sexual impropriety. Seems
they will side with one evil claiming they are doing it to stop the
immoral democrats. They should look at themselves  before they
point their finger at others. 

Seems women are always  accused of lieing or wrong when they
accuse a  man of touching them improperly.  I can understand
why those who support the GOP might feel this could be suspect.
But they and we should want to be sure, especially with 30 people
are backing up the claim that this man was guilty of this kind of
actions.

I think there is a movement by women in this country
to run for public office. I hope they do. Then perhaps
those men who want to control women can be
curtailed. We should share power with women, not
step on them, or kick them out of the way. When
women worked to get the right to vote, most men
felt women belonged in the home. It's sad, but many
men still feel women should be seen and not heard.

Trump continues to support autocrats around the world. Our country
should be supporting freedom, not dictators who imprison those who
shine the light of truth on them. People like this only respond to
sanctions that limit their personal freedoms to move around the
world and limits their ability to buy goods. So far Trump only seems
to be against Iran, and N Korea. Both due to nuclear weapons.

Will Saudi Arabia use it's military to attack or try to prevent Iran
from becoming a major power in the region? If so I fear it could
end up dragging us into the fray, and it could cause the price
of crude oil to skyrocket.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 11, 2017, 12:37:04 pm
Trump day 295
President Trump claims he is for law and order. He puts a man
in the office of attorney general that claims to be for law and
order. Shouldn't they be speaking out against the Alabama GOP
candidate for US senate? Trump like many say "IF" he is guilty
he should resign. Well who is going to prove beyond a shadow
of a doubt he is innocent? Normally party canidates are
 investigated by the party prior to letting them run for
a high office as senator. Insteadd they let the far right
choose. A group who apparently could care less if the
man is a pedophile or not. People running for public office
need to be squeaky clean, and not tainted by reputation
or actions in their past. If we don't how can we expect young
people to respect law and order if we support and elect criminals
and corrupt politicians.

Trump met with Putin, and after Putin claimed he had noting to
do with the election in 2016. Trump agrees with Putin over the
CIA. Apparently because Trump can't accept the fact he had
was helped by Russia to win. I think Trump continues to support
Putin because he needs Russian money. Banks here won't loan
Trump money due to him not properly repaying his loans.

People in the military feel we will be at war with N Korea by the
middle of 2018. This is due to a massive American military build
up in S Korea, and the region.  I wonder what Veterans day of
2018 will bring us. If 10's of thousands of our soldiers are dead
what will Trump say? Will he blame Obama, Clinton, the generals,
or N Korea? I am sure he won't blame himself.

The GOP, a party who claims to be for Law, order and morality,
would bend to support suspected sexual predictors is unfortunate.
I am sure they have many other people they could support.
It's still party over country, and now it's party over the rule of
law and morality. We see it in Trump, and Congress. Anything
goes to pass their agenda. No matter who it hurts.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 12, 2017, 12:45:46 pm
Trump day 296
President Trump claimed "No one can buy me." So why
is Trump being cozy with  the autocratic leader of the
Philippines? It has been reported Trump is receiving
millions of dollars from the Trump Hotel there, and would
stand to loose these payments if he failed to back the
leader. A man responsible for the deaths to thousands
in his country.

How many other deals is Trump making as president. The
GOP won't force him to release his tax records. I think
many in the GOP are selling their soul to Trump. Letting
him get by with anything to stay in power, and who knows
how much much money they might be making as well.
One GOP senator was reported to say if we don't pass the
tax cut we will loose the big contributions we get from
from our rich supporters. They don't care if it hurts the
middle class as long as they keep their rich supporters
happy.  That includes the poor, and those on social security
and medicare.

Fox News should be called Trump News, because they won't
say anything opposing Trump. The GOP should change it's name
to the Trump Party, because the GOP leaders stand up and defend
Trump no matter what he does. Even if it's unconstitutional.

Dem
Voters appear to be moving to support the democrats, or perhaps
to vote against Trump and the GOP. Hopefully the democrats will
get it's act togeather and have good people running for office.
There are places across the country where few if any democrats
are running for office.

The GOP and Trump are for the rich in this country, not the
common man or woman. Not for law and order, or even morality.
I am sure there are many good people in the GOP, but if they
stand back and let the leadership drag the party down it will
likely be damaged beyond repair.

GOP
Latest polls in Alabama are showing Roy Moore is falling behind.
Will the GOP stand with this man, or do the right thing and tell
him to resign.

The GOP will defend their own till the bitter end, but if an opponent
was accused of a bad thing they are guilty no matter what. The
GOP seems to think it can't win unless it tells lies and mislead
the voters. All they have to do is actually do what they claim they
are for, and be honest about it. Instead they hide behind closed
doors, and make dishonest statements.

They continue to support big buisness who have been laying off
thousands even though they pay less than the 20% in tax the
GOP claims will add jobs. The big tax cut for the rich will creat
over a Trillion dollars more in debt, so the GOP will say next
year we have to cut medicaid and medicare to cover the debt
they caused with their tax cut. I wonder how many GOP seniors
will like it when they have to pay increases for medicare, and
who will care for those kicked out of nursing homnes with the
cuts to medicaid. People already are going wihtout to pay for
medicine, or food or utilities, The GOP doesn't care as long as
they can feed the rich fat cats. Most of which think the poor are
just loosers who can die.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 13, 2017, 01:04:00 pm
Trump day 297.
President Trump is apparently backing up on his claim the CIA was
wrong about Russias hacking. Now he appears to be agreeing with
them a little.

Roy Moore of Alabama running for senate is threatening to sue the
Washington Post over the story of his actions with a 14 year old
girl 40 years ago.  It's rather doubtful he would want a public
airing in court of what he did dating teenage girls when he was
in his 30's.

The GOP should tell him to resign. As long as they support him they
dirty their own party and reputation. The man is likely innocent under
the law no matter what happened due to how much time has past. 
We only know what has been reported, but with politics it's all about
public pertion.

I hear the leader of N Korea called Trump an old man. Trump didn't like it.
I think Trump does look old. That's what he gets from being out playing
all those years. It's a wonder he doesn't have his name on bottles of
sun screen.

When Trump pulled us out of the Paris accords for climate warming. At
the time we and two other counties weren't on board. One was Syria and
Venezuela. Both of them decided to join the accord. Guess they didn't
want to be in agreement with Trump. Even though Trump and the GOP
don't like the idea of moving away from fossil fuels. Some states are working
toward renewable energy.

The world would be much better off not depending on fossil fuels even if it
didn't cause global warming.  We could let the middle east deal with their
own problems if we didn't need their crude oil. Also much of the money
terrorists have comes from the sale of crude oil.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 14, 2017, 01:55:12 pm
Trump day 298
President Trump claims he is wanting to lower the price of drugs. Well
he and the GOP isn't likely do any such thing. The pharmasutical
industry spends millions lobbying congress to let them set prices any wahy
they want.

A few years ago a multimillionaire bought a factory that was making a drug
which at cost was $20. He turned around and set the price up to $750.00. For
no reason except to feed his greed. Congress could regulate drug prices and
prevent such outrages, but the GOP has no desire to do so. As long as voters
keep them in office we will pay the price. Other countries would not allow such
things, but in the name of free interprise the GOP will.

The GOP claims "Let the market control prices." Then why do they pass laws
won't allow competition by small companies in the drug industry? It's because
the big corporations don't want the competition. They spend 100's of millions
advertising hoping the public will ask their doctor to prescribe their over priced
medicine. Then add the cost of advertising to their drug prices. Though they make
billions of dollars they cry we need it to do reshearch. Well it's a lie, they spend a
slittle more on R and D  than they do on advertising.

As long as the public returns "Good ole boys" to congress, nothing will
change.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 15, 2017, 01:05:48 pm
Trump day 299
President Trump and those he appoints including the Vice President all have
a problem with memory. Now forgetting something meaningless is common
to us all, but his people conveniently  forget things few people would forget.
Then all of a sudden when it's reported in the news they remember. The
attorney general claimed forgetting isn't enough to get in trouble, yet about
20 years ago he filed charges against a young policeman for forgetting. Sending
the man to jail for doing the same thing as he and others inn the Trump
administrations have done for months.

It's all about forgetting, denying, and lieing. When will the GOP stand up and
enough? Or will they wait and hope the voters will  send them back to
continue licking Trumps boots?

Guilty or not it seems politicians work hard to have deniability no matter what
they may have done. It's possible something they learned in law school since
most are lawyers. It's time we returned to requiring honesty and morality
for those who represent us in government.

The GOP continues to work on their tax bill, and now will end up
causing health insurance to be more costly, and who knows how
much people with health problems will have to pay. They seem to
think if they coudn't get rid of the ACA directly they will do it with
their relatively popular tax cut for the rich. It's all about finding the
money to cut taxes for the rich. Making the poor and middle class
pay so the won't have to. including Trump and family.

The GOP at the direction of the Federalists are putting
veru conservative judges in lifetime positions. Even if
they have little experience. As long as they are
conservative republicans. No minorities unless
they have a record of conservatism. When Obama was in
office the GOP stalled and did everything they could to
keep these judgeships open till they had the power to
select their own.

Minorites, women, and the LGBT are likely in for a hard
time. Perhaps for a whole generation. If we loose another
moderate supreme court judge to a conservative there will
little anyone can do to get rid of judges with a lifetime
appointment. About the only way is to prove they broke
the law. Which is very rare.

There is talk in the senate to remove the ability for
the president to start a nuclear war. I think to preemptively 
start a nuclear war should require more than one mans
decision. No matter what party he/she represents.
If we are attacked then sure, the president can
respond alone if necessary. The current way it
is setup, is to quickly respond to a soviet attack with
100's or perhaps thousands of nukes. Not a few
by a country like N. Korea. All countries but us and
France use a panel of three or more to use nukes.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 16, 2017, 12:48:02 pm
Trump day 300
President Trump made a rambliing speech about his trip to the
far east. He bragged about how many jobs Japan was promising
to the USA. Only thing it's just talk with nothing agreed in
in writing. Seems all Trump gained in with his trip was a
bigger waistline with all the dinners he had with the middle
eastern leaders. It's well known Trump loves rich food with
lots of calories.

Might be miy imagination, but Trump looks fatter than he
was when he was during his campaign. He has a way to
go to be the fattest president. William H Taft who wieghed
364 pounds, holds the record.

The sexual allegations toward ex judge running for US senator
in Alabama continues to grow even though hedenys it saying it's
just politics. It's strange how the religious community is
supporting a man accused of sexual abuse of young girls. I
would think they would think they would stand back calling
this what it is instead of blindly saying he  is a good man.
Many people thought to be good have been found to be very
bad people. The man who shot almost 600 people in Los Vegas
was thought to be a good man before hand.

Trump was asked to comment about this, but hurried out
of the room with no response.

Dem
A democrat senator from Minnesota is accused of unwanted
kissing of a woman before he was elected over 10 years
ago. Not surprising the GOP is immedeatly opening a
ethics investigation for the senator. This is just politics
since he wasn't a senator at the time. He has apologized
to the woman. If women want to change the bad
habits of men, they best vote to put more women
in office. That way they can punish this kind of
activities instead of just asking men to change it.

Men make comments about women and act like they
understand how women feel. This is ridiculous. Only
women know how women feel. I can only guess, but
men should at least respect their space. Personally
never felt it proper to chase women or push myself
on anywone much less women. Seems a lot of men
think it's something women want them to do. To act
like a master over a woman as they would child or
slave. I consider women as an equal and should be
treated that way.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 17, 2017, 12:12:36 pm
Trump day 301
The Trump administration has removed the restriction against bringing
back parts of elephant to the USA. The Trump administration claims
it will provide more money to protect large game animals from pooching.
I suppose we should ignore the fact Trumps family is involved as many
rich people are in big game hunting and obviously want to bring home
Trophies to show off to their friends.

Trump tweeted to bad mouth the senator from Minnisota for his
actions of Kissing and groping a woman. Even to suggest the
senator did more than accused. Likely to create conspiracies
against the democrat. Trump should keep his mouth shut after
20 women accused him of similar or worse attacks during his
campaign. As it says in the Christian bible. "Let those who are
without sin cast the first stone." Perhaps our higly religious vice
president should remind Trump of that.

Our politicians like to claim they are as pure as the driven
snow, but I have a hunch there are many cases of sexual attacks
and harassment with both parties in government. It's been a dirty
little secret of many powerful men down through human history.

Seems people who support men who attack women, want to blame
the women or girls for being seductive. To make the man they support
a victim instead.

The keystone pipe line sprung a leak spilling of over200,000
gallons of tar sand oil. This pipe line was said to be almost
leak proof. Nebraska is about to  vote to permit the same pipe
line to cross their state. I wonder if the big leak will
affect their vote? Somehow I think a GOP controlled state
won't even care and will allow it to cross leaks and all.

Trumps son was was found to be in contact with Wikileaks
during the campaign. A site that was involved with Russia. This
pretty much ties The Trump campaign with Russia and it's help
to elect Trump as president.

Puerto Rico is still having power problems, at least 50
percent of the island. After 9 weeks they are still
getting shameful help from the Trump administration even
though Trump claims they are getting great help.

The house passed a tax cut bill with GOP cheers.
A bill that would if put into law would save the
super rich billions. Troub would save millions, and
with the removal of the estate tax his family depending
on how long Trump lives could save billions as well.
All this while the taxes increase for the working poor.
The GOP has often said they are for jobs, but their
"Trickle down economics" hasn't ever worked except
to make the rich even richer, and the rest of us poorer.
They don't believe in the Minimum wage, or Unions. They
claim all government aid creates dependency, and should
be eliminated. They say let local government care for the
disadvantage. Well local governments often don't have the
resources to fill the need.


I think we should work to help people get off government
aid, but when the minimum wage pays less than people get
on welfare. We need to have a system that moves people
to an equal and even greater income. The way it is now if
a person gets even a part time job they are tossed off
welfare. Perhaps we should just reduce welfare by the
amount they earn working. Until their income equals
welfare.  Then stop the aid. We will always have people
that try to live off of others, but I think most want to
make their own living given the chance.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 18, 2017, 01:34:19 pm
Trump day 302
Today marks a year since I started this thread. To point out what our
friendly or unfriendly politicans. It depends on who you are. If you have
a job that pays enough to have a decent lifestyle? You might feel the GOP
and Trump are doing ok. If your poor and working two jobs to make ends
meet it's not likely your are happy with how things are.

Now the GOP and Trump want to give the super rich a huge tax cut on
the backs of the working poor and middle class. If you voted for them,
you likely were coned  into believing they cared about you. The GOP
and Trump are out to protect their pocket book not yours. .

The GOP talks about how much they want to reduce welfare, but turn
around and give the rich and big corporations welfare with big tax cuts.
Small businesses rarely ever get this kind of welfare. They don't have
enough money to  buy tax cuts  like the super rich does.

Trump and the GOP clame the economy needs these tax cuts to grow
and make jobs. Well unemployment is at record lows, The stockmarket
is at record highs. Big buisness has record amounts of money in their
coffers. The economy has been growing for the past 8 plus years.  All
this and they still clame we must cut taxes to help big busiess and
the economy.  Their TAX CUTS are about making the super rich
happy. People who have spent millions and millions of dollars to get
them  elected. One billionaire has spent almost 90 million to get
the GOP and Trump elected.

The religious right is supporting the GOP and Trump, even with their
immorality. Why?  Because they say they must get rid of abortion and
homosexuality. Not to help the poor and disadvantaged as the Christian
religion teaches.  Their  leadership says we must get rid of abortion and
homosexuality or the country will die. Well it's more about the power
and money their leaders want. They are using their followers for this
purpose.

Most won't likely want to believe they are being used. Some of their
followers have killed doctors and women thinking they must  protect
the unborn. Others  refuse to give homosexuals the proper respect
they deserve, thinking GOD wants them to oppose those who don't
follow their beliefs.  This leads to divisions across  the country. A favorite
tactic of authoritarians like Trump.

We can only hope for the good of all Americans and the country,
the majority of Americans will stand up and hold the GOP and Trump
accountable.  If they don't  many people will suffer, and may lead
to violence in the future.

The Great depressian of the 1930's almost turned the country
to communism, or socialism FDR pulled the country away from
such extremes by giving aid to those who needed it the most.
The GOP was against giving aid to the poor even then, and would
return us to the days with people begging and dispaire that could
drive us to being a socialist state.

The GOP believes in putting people in prison, even when their
ideas drive some people to crime. We already have more people
than any other country behind bars. It's time we change our
ways of dealing with people. Or we will be building more and
more prisons. With it costing close to  $50,000 a year to keep
people in prison. Just more state welfare in reality. Why not spend
that money to train and educate people out of criminal activiey?
That would likely do a lot to grow the economy, instead of pulling i
t down..


After a year of this and vision failing I don't plan to continue my
daily posts on politics. Instead I will post perhaps weekly or when
there is something big to report on. Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 21, 2017, 01:18:49 pm
Trump day 305
President Trump was on the phone with Putin for an hour. One
wonders who was talking to who. Trump seems to be sending
the world a message that we no longer care how people are
treated around the world. Turing over them over to the tender
mercies of authoritarian leaders of Russia, China and others.
It's true we can't police the world, but if we don't stand for
human rights, who will?

Trum made sure Texas, and Florida got all the help they
needed after the hurricanes hit, but to our american
citizens in Puerto Rico and the Virgin islands. They
can help them selves. After 2 months they are mostly
without electrical power, and the army is leaving.

Trump has been quiet about the senate race in Alabama.
Apparently afraid to remind the public of his sexual
wrongdoing.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 23, 2017, 11:51:57 am
Trumps lies never stop, even on holidays. He was bragging about how
he is changing the way we are fighting in Afghanistan even though little
has changed. It's all about training the local army to defend their country.

I wonder how our people there feel when the president embarrasses 
them, because he won't accept the facts.. They can't bad mouth
Trump, but it's bound to affect moral.

If Trump cares so much for the military, why is he wanting to
privatize medical care for Veterans. This will likely leave many
without the care they need. Private industry is all about
profit, and people second. That is why regulations exist. To
protect those who can't protect them selves.

The GOP and Trump are still pushing for their big tax cut
for the rich. I find it odd that big business would support
tax cuts that will hurt the middle class. The very people
who they need to buy their products.  The rich doesn't
buy low end products. They buy high end stuff that only
supports a limited number of workers. Shows that some
rich people can't see beyond their bank account. If people
have a limited amount of spendable income they are going
pay to have food, gas, utilities, clothing first. Then if they
have anything left they buy a new car, TV, refrigerator, ect.

A N. Korean soldier ran a gauntlet of gunfire from his fellow
soldiers trying escape to S Korea. He fell on the S. Korean
side and was rescued by S. Korean soldiers, and taken to
a hospital with serious wounds. Hopefully he hasn't any
family left in N. Korea, because they would be imprisoned
or enslaved. It's sad how paranoid the N. Korean leadership
is. Given a chance N. Korea could have a strong economy
with a good life for the people instead of having to live in
desperate poverty. Then people wouldn't want to leave.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 25, 2017, 12:22:06 pm
President Trump wants to be just like Russias Putin. An autocrat who can
control the people of our country at his own whims. Do as he says, not as
he does. Trump complained that Obama played too much golf. Then said I
won't have time to play golf if elected. Trump has spent over 80 days at his
golf resorts since he took office. Just another one of his lies.

I think we all remember Trump saying in his campaign. "I will hire the
smartist people. It appears according to Trump if your poor your a looser.
If your rich your smart, and it makes no difference if you cheat people
to get rich. That's the kind of people Trump appoints to run government
agencies. People who seem to feel they can use people for their own
gain. Just like Trump does.

Trump has been using the office of president to fill his pockets from day
one of his presidency. This is why he ran for office. His businesses were
failing, he is in hock to the Russian banks for 100's of millions.  So in a
few years he would have been living like a poor millionaire instead of a
billionaire. He will use us all because he doesn't want to be a looser like
the rest of us.

GOP
It appears 9 million children are about to loose their health insurance
because congress won't renew the program. Is there nothing congress
feels sacred except helping the rich get richer? If there is a judgement
day I wouldn't want to be a politician. Some how i think their fast talk
won't gain them anything but a fast trip down.

People who support an accused pediphie should hang their heads in
shame. Using the excuse to gain another conservative supreme court
judge is not one of morality. Morality is caring for the poor, sick, and
infirmed. Set the example by actions not by laws to force beliefs on
others.


 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 27, 2017, 11:59:56 am
President Trump wants to appoint a acting administrator
of the consumer protection agency.  The GOP and Trump
wants to get rid of it, not fix it. This agency is supposed to
protect consumers from bad banking practices. It shouldn't
be forgotten that big banks often cheat consumers, and
take homes if a person misses one payment.  Typical
acts by Billionaires.

The GOP and Trump are still calling the tax cut a great thing
for the little guy, but instead it's a big cut for the top 5%.
If it's passed expect cuts in government programs for the
poor and needy. Reports tell that social security disability
benifits will be cut next year, along with medicare cuts. Both
of which people pay for through pay roll taxes. Those in the
GOP have been wanting to privatize those and other social
programs for years. They don't mind giving money to big
business though. Currently big businesses have more money
than ever. Oh in spite of the GOP claims money for big business
gives pay raises. No it doesn't. That is part of their Trickle down
economics claim that never works for anyone but the rich.

If the GOP keeps power the country will be run by, and for
billionaires.  If we have a war, guess who is sent to fight. The
little guys, not the sons and daughters of billionaires or even
multi millionaires. The middle class pays most of the taxes.
 
These people like Trump talk to powerful people in authoritarian
countries, and learn how to step on those who don't have
money and power.

Congress is working trying to limit the problems caused by sexual
harassment claims. This has been a dirty little secret for decades,
and likely since the country was founded. There is a lot of finger
pointing, but this stuff crosses all races and parties. I think we
should let the voters decide who stays in office unless laws are
broken.

While Obama was in office the GOP argued we had too many
federal judges. Now they and Trump is putting as many
conservative judges in as they can. These judges  can stay
as long as they live. If they don't support gay rights, or minority
rights, or womens rights. It's just too bad. Most people can't
afford to appeal to a higher court. All this for people who hate
the LGBT, and abortion. Not counting with the support for big
business. The little guy will be screwed.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 29, 2017, 12:24:17 pm
Trump continues to bad mouth Muslems even though they are more likely
to be victims of terrorisim than anyone else. 

President Trump continues to claim the media reports fake news. A man
who lies constantly has no room to talk. Fox News which is basicly Trumps
mouth piece, and called the state media by Trump rarely ever calls Trumps
hand when he lies.

The last missile test by N Korea shows they can
reach the USA mainland. Trump says he will take
care of it. Either he is living in a fantasy world or knows
something the rest of us don't. I guess we will have
to wait and see if one of our cities is reduced to rubble
or not. When and if he starts a war.

The main newsman on NBC was fired tuesday for sexual misbehaviior, the
latest added to a long list of men accross the nation accused of sexual 
harassment and worse. When is Trump going to be held accountable.
Several women have accused him of the same. I wonder if any of his
billionaire buddies he has appointed to office are guilty of sexual
misconduct? It's possible one or more of them has paid off women to
keep quiet.

Several years ago a woman who ran a brothel in Washington DC was
reported to have several politicians were clients of hurs, including
federal judges. Her list of naming them quietly disappeared. It's
no wonder so many women have reported sexual harassment. Supreme
Court Judge Clarence Thomas was accused of the same. It's likely
the only reason he was voted in was because he was a minority or
the accusation would have ended his chances.

The GOP complains about regulations. The problem is human nature
requires controls or it will turn to greed. This is why regulations are
needed. It makes no difference if the society is based on Communism,
Socialism, or free market capitalisim. Humans will cheat, and step on
others to gain riches for them selves. Some in the GOP tell them
selves otherwise,but it's the truth. Most people won't give in to greed,
but those who do will work hard to get rich, no matter who it hurts.

The GOP complain the Democrats won't help them, but they hide in
closed rooms without democrats to create bills that only hurt the
poor and help their billionaire supporters, and wall street.  I hope
the GOP pays dearly for their errogant activity in 2018.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 30, 2017, 12:16:41 pm
Is President Trump loosing his mind? He claims it wasn't his voice
in the video where he was talking about how he treaded woment.
At the time he appoligized for what he said in the video. Now he
even tells people in the White House it wasn't him. This is just one
thing he appears to not have continuity with his past. Much of his
lies and claims do more to hurt him than others. Why would he want
to hurt his self if he was mentally sane. I am sure many would say
this is just the way Trump is, because he doesn't act crazy. Well it's
true he is okay much of the time, but under stress he changes, not just
showing anger, but making strange desicians when his angry. Also
when talking he can't stay on the subject. Like if something pops into
his head he changed to that even if it's totally unrelated.

We can only hope during one of his times of stress he doesn't start a
war with his psychosis. This wasn't a problem as a real estate dealer,
but with the power of a president where might it end?

GOP
Well senator Mc Cain says he will vote for the Tax bil. Last summer he
said he couldn't vote for a bill that wasn't properly run through congress.
Now he plans to do just that. I wonder what they threatened or promised
him to get his vote. The man has cancer, so perhaps he doesn't want to
leave congress with his party mad at him. Hard to say either way. I find
it hard to believe any congresman would vote for this bill. Especially those
leaving office. The rest of the GOP are probably bought and paid for. Some
of them admit it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 01, 2017, 12:00:01 pm
Trump day 316
Trumps good guy Flynn has plead guilty lieing to the FBI. Has he
made a deal with Special counsil Mueller ? Trump may be sweating
because he doesn't know what Flynn might be saying.

GOP
The treasury secretary claimed he was working on a report telling
how good the tax bill is for the economy, but it turns out he wasn't
doing anything about it. So now the senate is up againsts a Trillion
dollar defict if they pass the bill. They were expecting a possible
deficent of half that. I am sure they will wiggle a  way out, but it's
already a bad bill. If they make it worse, Americans will pay a big
price so the GOP can feed their fat cat supporters.

Personally I think it should be unconstitutional to pass any tax bill
with a simple majority. It should take at least a 3/5 majority if not
a 2/3 vote. With a simple majority half of the population is forced
to pay any tax the other half plus one wants to empose. In the past
most tax changes required at least a 3/5 vote, but leaders found
it hard to get their tax increases passed they moved to a simple
majority. This is a poor excuse, if the money is needed, prove it
instead they change the rules.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 03, 2017, 12:37:47 pm
President Trump was happy when the senate passed a tax bill
that will save him and his family millions and millions in taxes.
It was tempered a bit due to Flynn. As usualy when Trump doesn't
like something he calls it fake news. Then what he does like he
repeats time and time again. It's a fact in selling the more you say
something is good or bad, the more people will believe it. As we know
Trump is a master salesman, and his supporters want to believe him.

As the investigation by special counsel Muller closes in on the
Trump administration. Trump will try harder to divert attention
toward someone like Clinton, Obama or the democrats. If and
when a impeachment occurs, you can be sure Trump will claim
it's all about politics, and he won't let it go. For the rest of his
life he will blame everyone but himself for his impeachment.


GOP
Well the GOP members of the senate voted to cut taxes for
their rich fat cat supporters. Oh and they are starting to say
we have to cut spending with all this debt, and they are even
saying we must cut social programs to do it. They already
have a dirty finger pointing at social security and medicare.
So how many older people will die due to hunger, or no heat
to keep warm, or pay for medicine, and healthcare? How
many will be kicked out of nursing homes to die in the streets?
Many older people go to nuring homes because their kids don't
want or can't care for them.


This tax bill won't cause any pain to a healthy young person or
family who isn't going to college. By the way any aid you recieve
to help pay for college will be taxable. Including  scholarships.
Think about that. You may owe thousands in taxes even without
a job. This country needs more college educatedpeople not less.
But the GOP only worrys about their rich supporters, not the
working people who make this country what it is.

It seems the rich never learn. they seem to forget if they take
most of the money, how will big business sell anything? It's the
average person who buys the products factories put out. If the
public reaches a point they can't buy, the factories will close, and
huge numbers of people will be without a job. This will mean
even fewer people will be able to buy products. This is what
creates a depression with millions of people looking for work.
If this happens there will be social change in spite of the GOP or
the rich fat cats. This is how the great depression of the 1930's
was started. We are not a kingdom full of farmers. Our system
depends on people buying products. I fear we are headed for
another big depression that will likely sweep the world. Too few
people are controlling much of the money. The GOP's tax cut
takes even more money out of the hands of the public.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 06, 2017, 12:05:58 pm
President Trump says he wants to recognize the city of Jerusalem
capital of Israel. This will likely set off riots and violent protests in
the middle east. The Palestinaian people claim the city as their own.
Over the past 40 years we have agreed to disagree on this subject.
But Trump made a campaign promise to recognize the city as the
Jewish capital. So instead of forgetting this promise like he has
others he wants to do this as he thinks it will gain him votes. If
it starts a middle east war that gets a lot of Jews killed he may
loose votes instead.

Trump the coffee shop politician continues with his lack of
understanding of world politics keeps us on the edge of war.

GOP
The GOP continues to push for their tax cut for the rich.
Any cut for the middle class is only temporary. In the
next few years the tax will increase unless your a
 millionaire. Where your taxes will stay low. The
GOP claim they have taken loopholes out of the  tax
system, but when asked they couldn't even name one.
they removed. So it's likely some corporations will pay
almost no tax at all.

Some parts of their bill actually encourages some big
businesses to set up operations in other countries.
This will reduce their taxes. Not counting jobs. So goes
America first.

These tax cuts will trigger cuts to  programs for the needy.
Like medicaid, social security, and medicare. All of which
the GOP would like to get rid of. They claim those who
get governlment aid are lazy loosers others shoulldn't
have to support. I guess they include children and the
disabled in this group. As of now they are not renewing
health care program for needy children. 







Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 06, 2017, 12:52:38 pm
President Trump does support the man running for US senate in
Alabama. It's plain to see Trump a man who has many women
saying he harassed them sexually cares, even though the man
he supports is accused of the same and more. It's all about
winning no matter who it hurts or how it looks.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 07, 2017, 12:45:17 pm
 President Trumps idea of recognizing Jerusalem
as the capital of Isreal was a thoughtless mistake.
He could have used this declaration to get Isreal to
make changes that would have helped the peace
process. Instead he gave it away likely for a few
far right votes.

Dem
The senator from Minnesota will resign due to accusations
of sexual harassment. Most of these had little  if any
credibility. The democrats idea of zero tolerance makes
it possible for anyone to get rid of a sitting democrat with
the claim they were sexually harassed. It would have been
better to have used the ethics committee to make
the decision.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 08, 2017, 12:33:09 pm
President Trump continues to brag about how much better the
economy is since he took office. Well the last 10 months of
Trumps administration had less new jobs than the last 10 months
of the Obama administration.

The economy is slowly growing, but not any faster than when Obama
was in office. Wages which mean more to most people show low
growth. In many cases wages and buying power of workers is
dropping. Big business works to lower the cost of labor, not to
increase it. Especially businesses that require a lot of labor like
factories.

Our country has been moving to a service industry over the past
few decades. Mechanics, Plumbers, Electricians, people answering
phones, ect.

Politicians like Trump and the GOP like to brag about creating jobs,
but the number of unemployment which is reported at less than 5%
doesn't show the whole story. The number of people needing jobs
and those having to work part time is around 8%. Many of these
people don't make enough to make ends meet if they are lucky. So
they do without proper food, and clothing  for their children. Now
the GOP wants to cut aid to the working poor. They use the excuse
"We shouldn't pay to support lazy beer drinkers. " If they don't like
those who are lazy help them get good jobs instead of kicking out
in the street to beg from others. If they won't work or claim a
disability then see that their kids at least have food, health care
and shelter. If we don't they will likely grow up thinking no one cares
about them, and likely be on drugs or worse. That will cost society
more than helping them in the first place.

GOP
There is a lot of talk about morality these days. I think most people
who call them selves Republicans are moral, but the party leadership
has convinced many they must pass this or that to save the country.
So they must hold their nose and vote for someone who has been
credibly accused of sexual misconduct and worse. If people don't
stand against this ultra conservatism the country will fall into even
more division, When radicals gain power they do things that have
been proven to cause economic losses not gains. Perhaps to start
a economic depression.

Since social security was passed in the 1930's the GOP has wanted
to get rid of it. They know touching it is political suicide so they plan
to create a huge enough deficit so they can claim they must cut
entitlements to save the economy. This way they think they can
get by with it. Trump said he would protect Social security and
medicare. So lets see if he keeps that promise or wiggles out of
it. Many people will starve and die of disease if cuts are made to
these programs. Just as they did prior to their enactment. The GOP
will cause this country to move to socialism if they hurt enough
people. We came close to it in the 1930's.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 09, 2017, 12:30:06 pm
President Trump apparently declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel 
to please the far right. It seems they believe when Israel is returned
to the one state with Jerusalem as the capital, Christ can return to
begin the end of times.  This belief is not supported by the majority
of Christians around the world. It's mostly promoted by people in
the far wanting to get rich. Far right supporters spent millions to
help Trump get elected so he could make this declaration.

Many people down through history have used religion to get rich.
People should investigate anyone who promotes a religous belief
that doesn't follow normal religious facts. Otherwise you could
find your self in a religious cult who is after your money.

GOP
The GOP apparently worried that the special council Muller is going
to find Trump guilty of something. So they and Fox- (Trump TV) is
running Muller down as being political instead of finding the honest
truth. I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP or Trump finds a way to get
rid of the special counsel or at least discredit him.

You can find more on this at MSnbc.
www.msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.com)

Link for Russia investigation.
www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)



www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 10, 2017, 01:37:06 pm
Is president Trump a couch potato? It has been reported he watches
TV about eight hours a day. Add that to his tweeting and Golf, when
does he do any work? In his campaign he complained about how much
Obama played golf, and how little time Obama worked in the white
house. Trump has spent more time traveling for relaxation and playing
golf than any previous president. Trump seems to think he is some
kind of king ruling over his subjects. He seems to think he is above
the law as well.

Trump seems to think the people elected him to what ever he wants.
He constantly lies and seems to be unable to stay on any subject for
more than a few minutes.

He doesn't exercise, and drinks a dozen diet cokes a day. He has a
poor diet that includes extra ice cream and cake. Sleeps around 5
hours a night. Goes asleep with a TV on and wakes up to TV. It's
no wonder his health is slipping and gaining weight. Presidents are
under constant stress and often suffer loss of good health while in
office. So here is a man with relatively  poor health to begin with.
I wonder if he even lasts another 3 years living like this.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 13, 2017, 11:48:31 am
President Trump and his good friend Bannon were likely a bit red faced
after Roy Moore apparntly lost his bid for the US senate. They had bot
supported him completely. Trump and Bannon both have claimed they
would primary any republican running for office in 2018 who opposes
them. It appears their ability to control the GOP voting base isn't
nearly as strong as they claim.

I wonder if they GOP will continue to fear them as much as they have
over the past year.

Trump attacked the senator who first called for his resignation , claiming
she offered to do anything for a donation from him a few years ago.
Ever since Trump started supporting Roy Moore women and the media
have been reminding Trump of his reported sexual misconduct.  Trump
seems to believe if he continues to claim the women are lying it will
go away. This from a man who makes a business of lying.

I wonder with women speaking out as ever before, will any public 
official escape their scrutiny. I hope women across American and
the world start standing up for them selves. Men have taken
advantage of women far too long as it is.  Moores defeat is
a victory for women, and human rights everywhere.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 14, 2017, 12:57:35 pm
President Trump claims he isn't a racist, but why doesn't he have African American
people in the white house. Not to cook and clean, but as advisers and political
professionals and staff. There was one, but she was fired apparently for not keeping
her mouth shut, and trying to talk to Trump.

There is a African American in the cabiet, who is over public housing. Seems odd
Trump would put a Doctor in that position. Trump claimed a black man like the
Doctor who has no experience in housing people would be good because
he grew up poor. Looks like the Doctor is being used instead of picking a
professional in housing.  I could be wrong, but I have my doubts.

President Trump has failed to fill many important jobs in government
since he took office. Most have been Billionaires who care more about
their life style than  the job.

I have nothing against being rich, it's what many of them do with their
money I object to. Buying elections for one. Using it to get rid of 
competition in business . Using it to convince people people of a
lie is another. Many rich people succumb to greed. After all why
would anyone need a billion dollars or more? They could spend
20 million a year for 50 years with a billion in the bank. One
percent interest would be 10 million a year on s billion.

If we don't curtail the greedy rich like Trump and his friends,
they will own us all in the future. Just as they have tried to
do in the past.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 15, 2017, 03:37:00 pm
Trump's paranoia about Russia.  :o
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/donald-trump-russia/index.html?sr=fbCNN121517donald-trump-russia1145AMVODtopLink
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 16, 2017, 12:14:31 pm
President Trumps attack on the FBI shows his lack of respect for
law and order when it effects him. He seems to think he is above
the law as president. He thinks if he says something enough people
will believe his con job.

Trump news (Fox News) parroting Trumps claims that his connection
to Russia fake news. Seems the only regulations he wants to change
only effects big corporations. He isn't interested in removing them to
help small business. The vary ones that employ most of the populations.

Gop
The GOP and Fox News are trying to discredit Special council Muller.
A man when appointed to the job was cheered by his fellow
Republicans. Apparently they thought he would be a good Republican
clear Trump and his campaign of any wrong doing. Now that he
is doing his job and finding law breakers close to Trump they
to get rid of him. Apparently to please Trump and his fake
news crowd at Trump news.

Trump and the GOP might be able to  con Trumps base
of supporters, but there is a growing majority of Americans
who see Trump for what he is. A lier and a con artist who
looking out for him self and not the country. It's likely he
will drag the GOP down with him. Already almost 60 %
of Americans think he should be impeached, and the
mostly ignores the majority of Americans which will
likely lead to their loss. Several GOP members of
congress are not running for office so they won't be
seen as loosers in the 2018 election.

If your a millionaire or billionaire get ready to save
millions in taxes next year. If your not you might
save a few bucks, but in a year or two will likely be
paying more. If you itemize you will see some of
your favorite deductions gone. Trump said this
tax bill would hurt him which is a lie. It will save
him 10's of millions in taxes. Him and most of
top 1% of americans, and some forign corporations
who do business in the USA.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 18, 2017, 11:34:53 am
President Trump spoke on the phone with Russias Putin. Trump said
it was Putin thanking Trump for exposing a terrorist plot that
could have killed several in Russia.

This of course is a good thing if true. Hopefully Trump didn't
expost some of our operatives doing so. Or to reveal how we
collect information in Russia. Trump has been known to do
reveal secret information in the past. In fact some of the
countries we used to get info from have discontinued
providing data to us because of this.

Trump complained that Special council Muller had emails
of the Trump campaign. Trump claimed most were
personal. Rather hypocritical  as he claimed Clinton's
personal emails should be made public during his
campaign. It's just Trump trying to make the special
council Muller look bad. Lawful investigations commonly
collect emails from people they are investigating.
R
eports that Puerto Rico is still at a little over 50%
of electrical power for the island. Also over 1000 have
died because of the storm and poor response by the
Trump administration. It's likely over 100,000 will
relocate to Florida. I have a hunch most won't be wanting
to support the GOP in 2018 considering how little help they
recieved in the past few months.

GOP
The Trump investigations by the senat and house may close soon
after the first of the year. The GOP claims it's a waste of money to
persue it. These are the same people who spent millions investigating
JH Clinton over and over again even though they never found anything.
These people who play politics every day have the gall to say the Special
council is guilty of being policital, and should be fired. It's not the
business of congress to protect a president, but to hold them accountable.

Link for Russia investigation.
www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 19, 2017, 02:58:47 pm
The House just voted and passed the new tax bill this afternoon. The Senate will vote a bit later tonight on it. I have no hope that this tax bill will get repealed, denied, etc.  The Republicans have too many of their members favoring it. It will unfortuneately pass through the Senate and head to Trump's desk tomorrow where he will sign it into law. This whole tax bill was blindly rushed through Congress without anybody ever fully reading it and understanding the consequences of it. The Repubs just didn't care. All they really cared about was appeasing Trump and giving him a legislative win before Christmas and before his first year was up as President.

Trickle down Economics doesn't work and never will work.  >:( As Old Rabbit has probably said before, all this tax bill does is favor the rich and screw the middle class and poor. And not only that, but it will add another $1 trillion or so dollars to our national debt. Now, guess what's going to happen next after several months or a few years? To get "out of debt" and reduce the deficit, the Repubs (Especially Paul Ryan) will put forth plans to cut back on entitlements like Social Security, Disability, Welfare, Housing, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. in order to pay the deficit. Think I'm wrong? Just wait, it'll happen. ;)  Oh, and somewhere in this grand scheme, Trump and the Repubs will find ways to blame the Democrats for the huge deficit while also at the same time denying that they (Repubs) created it. The Repubs will probably also spin doctor this whole situation and twist it to their ends to try and win re-elections during the 2018 midterms.

Sorry, America. But you just got screwed.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 20, 2017, 11:42:55 am
The Senate passed the tax bill last night. :(
To see how the tax bill affects you and/or your family, check this calculator here:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/calculate-americans-taxes-senate-reform-bill/index.html

In other news........Trump Jr. is "promoting" a conspiracy that higher up Americans in gov't won't let Trump do his job and "America be America". Yeah, right.  :P Sounds like a bunch of hogwash to discredit the FBI, Mueller, and the Russian investigations, and to possibly gain sympathy from Trump supporters and Republicans. Seriously? Trump and his base are stooping this low? Wow!  :o
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/19/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 20, 2017, 11:52:41 am
Thank you Kobuk.

The tax bill President Trump is so proud of, and hasn't likely read
will give him a win. We he is right. It's a win for him and his
billionaire friends. Also it's a win for GOP's rich supporters who
have been spending millions to keep them in office.

Now people may see a bit more money in their pay check
next year, but it's only a sugar cube to keep the middle class
on their side till after the next election. All this sweetness will
go away in a few years. Only the tax cuts to real estate mogals
and corporations will stay. By the way Trump and several senators
have considerable investments in real estate. The people don't
put people in office to  help those elected to get rich. I have a
hunch many of these money grubbers will find it hard to get
elected once the people learn what they did. One Tennessee makes
almost 8 million a year in real estate. So it's no wonder he would
vote to cut his own taxes.

While the GOP makes the rich richer they plan to cut insurance for
children and the poor. People they call lazy looser's. This is why rich
people have no business being in congress. They look down on the
the poor. Some have through hard work have made millions, but it
takes a bit of luck along with hard work to become a millionaire
from scratch.

The GOP plans to spend 100's of millions to misslead the public
about this tax cut for the rich. I think they will find them hard to
convince.

I made a comment to a person about the tax cut, he and
others said they felt it's just a gift to the rich, and don't like it.
This from conservative Republicans.

GOP
They have done little to prevent the Russians from having influence
during the next election. They seem to forget the Russians and other
countries who may try this won't always be favoring the GOP.

Trump claims this tax bill will bring jobs back to the USA. In fact it
encurages big business to move jobs out of the country. Also big
business is using their big profits to buy back stock and pay dividens
to stock holders. Not to make jobs. This bill removes the mandate to
buy health insurance. So many will find out what it's like to owe 10's
of thousands in hospital bills with no money to pay for it. A vist to an
emergency room can cost thousands.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 21, 2017, 12:41:30 pm
President Trump and the GOP are patting each other on the back
for their passage of their big tax cut for the rich.

Of Course big business is joining in with big bonuses for their
workers, and even some are raising wages . This is all great,
but why didn't they do this earlier. Big business has been
making huge proffitcs for the last few years. Even befor Trump
in spite of his claims. Let see how long this lasts. So far those
getting pay raises and bonuses are working for the largest
corporations. Effecting around a million or two workers. Those
in the service industry will likely be left out in the cold. The
very people who voted for Trump. Trump had a populace
message in his campaign. Many promises he hasn't kept.
Like health care for all. Protecting Social security, and
medicare. Each time he is reminded of this he often
says campaign promises are just talk. Trump ran to make
money for his self and his family, not to make America 
great for all. The sooner people realize this the better. 

Presidents Cabinet meeting was more of a brag  on Trump
fest than anything else. The vice president was practicly
kissing Trumps feet. This and comments by others was
at the point being ridiculous. Trumps ego often gets in
the way of his good sense if he has any.

I often wonder what Trump is offering or threatening the
GOP politicians when he has them alone. They almost
always start supporting him right after.

I think he tries the same thing with other countries. This
is likely why we are loosing favor and friends around
the world. If the GOP stays in power I fear we will be
at war with Iran or N Korea before 2020 if not sooner.

The GOP, likely following Trumps wishes are trying to
discredit the Special counsel Muller, and the FBI to
the american public. This attack on Law enforcement by
President Trump is dangerous to a free society. If people
loose confidence in those who enforce our laws it could
lead to anarchy.

This tax bill has a lot in it other than taxes.  It opens up
pristine areas of Alaska to Oil and gas exploration. It adds
a 12% tax to products from Puerto Rico as if they were a
foreign country. This will harm our fellow americans there.
The governor of Puerto Rico is appealing to all americans
who have relatives in Puerto Rico to help put GOP politicians
out of office due their lack of respect for their fellow
in Puerto Rico after the storms that devastated their
infrastructure.





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 22, 2017, 01:05:15 pm
President Trump is still bragging on his big tax cut for him, (about 100
million.) the rich and corporations. The rest of us are getting the crumbs.
 Making taxes easier to file was only for those who don't itemize. The large
personal deduction made itemizing less desirable for those who make
a small wage. Those who do itemize will find it to be a larger headache
than ever. The tax preparers will be busier than ever.

Trump claims it's the largest tax cut in history, but even Obama
had a bigger tax cut.  He claims he has done more as president
than others who held the office. This is another lie. Most of what
he has done is remove regulations that protect our health and
the environment.

Trump continues to act like a coffee shop politician with quick fixes
that cause more problems than they solve. Big business always wants
less regulations. Much of what they do is harmful to the enviroment. We
should remember all the places big business has dumped chemicals and
other dangerous garbage to save costs. Then the tax payer had to pay
billions to clean it up.

The GOP is the political arm of big business, and if the public doesn't
curb them we will pay a big price in the end.

Big business is giving many of it's employees thousand dollar bonuses
and some pay raises. All told so far it's not much more than a billion or
so of the 100's of billions they will gain in tax savings.

Hopefully the public at large won't fall for this short term tax savings. The
GOP is betting that a few dollors will buy lots of votes. I like to think the
public is smarter than the GOP, but only time will tell. If the GOP is
returned to full control I fear many of our rights will be gone in favor
of fanatical religious desires and that of big business.

Currently the GOP would loose many seats in congress if the elections
were held today, but with most of a year to go anything is possible. If
we end up in a war many people will vote to keep government the
same. If the economy continues to grow it will help the GOP even
though much of the growth is due to changes Obama made during
his time in office. Not Trump who is better at going bankrupt than
success.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 23, 2017, 12:57:47 pm
President Trump returns to his resort in Florida. I
doubt if the locals are happy to see him as each time
he is there the local businesses are practically shut
down by the secret service.

I have no idea how many millions of tax payer dollars
have been spent to keep Trumps billionaire life style.
He rarely ever uses any businesses he doesn't own
when he is out playing golf or partying.  I doubt if he
 has spent more than a 100 days at the white house
since he was  elected.  Other than going out to rallys
toi feed his ego, and some overseas government visits,
he has spent most of his time doing little except brag
feed his ego, and tweet.

GOP a party who was started in the 1850's once was
a proud party who is falling into the hands of the far
right. At one time they worked for the good of the
people . Now it's for the good of the party.

When the industrial revolution began in the last half of
the 1800's. People who built the railroads, coal Mining,
created the oil industry, banking, and power,. All became
super rich by stepping on those who worked for them.

By the late 1800's the public elected people to the
government who put limits on these monopolies.
Most were broken up into smaller businesses. The
leaders of the monopolies cried we provide thousands
of jobs. Of course they didn't mention the company
towns where the workers were forced to live existence
lives  with little or no health care. Paid only enough to
to barely survive and little more. This made huge profits
for the leaders of business, and did help the country grow,
 but at a huge human cost. I fear we are headed for more
 of this kind of activity by big business. Pay as little as
possible while raising prices.  Support politicians who will
give tidbits to the public to stay in power  while enriching
their rich supporters with few regulations and lower taxes.

There is nothing wrong with being rich as long as your
willing to support the needs of the society who helped
you becaome rich in the first place. If you start to
step on people you will loose in the end. Unfortunately
many people who become very rich loose sight of this
and act like they know whats best for the rest of us.

Only time will tell if the public is willing to hold big
business and the GOP acountable for their deeds.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 24, 2017, 12:36:13 pm
President Trump said Merry Christmas, but was he talking
to us or his rich buddies. I imagine he will be handing out
some goodies at his resort in Florida, at least to his friends
who paid $200,000.00 to be there.

The GOP after passing a tax bill that gives them and Trump
more than us have gone home to hide. Or perhaps they will
be at a party or two attended by those who like them.

Perhaps next year the voters will give them a nice
permanent vacation.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 27, 2017, 11:43:09 am
President Trump is tooting his horn about the economy, but
Obama did as well or better, and brought us out of a recession
to boot. The stock market is doing very well, but world stock
markets are doing well and some better than ours, and they
don't have a Trump for president.

We best hope this fast growing market doesn't pop it's
bubble, or a lot of people will loose their shirt. The same
thing happened in the 1920's when the world  stock markets
crashed along with ours. People lost millions overnight. The
stock market is a gamble rich people play. But stock brokers
will tell you to only invest what you can afford to loose.

Reports by some at Trumps high dollar resort that Trump
was bragging to his rich friends about how much money
he had saved them with the tax bill he signed. This after
all his claims that the tax bill would cost him and his rich
friends. Of course he has denyed this report.

If you depend on government aid this tax bill will likely
cost you some of your aid. The GOP plans to cut health
care and other services for people who depend on them.
They will claim they have to because of the huge deficits
they created with their tax cuts for their rich supporters.

The GOP has wanted to get rid of all entitlements ever since
they were enacted by the democrats. They would rather give
welfare to big business. Isn't it odd many Republicans
congressmen are involved in the very businesses they wish
to support. They always claim it's all about jobs, but if they
care so much about workers why do they hate Unions and
the minimum wage. Both of which they would like to do away
with.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 29, 2017, 11:32:45 am
President Trump spent over a 100 days on vacation in
2017. To hear him they were all working vacations of
course.  He complained about Obama being on vacation
too much, but Trump only works a few hours a day, and
most of that is watching cable news.

Trump still trys to run our country like it was one of his
businesses. He apparently has little idea how to govern
except by decree. All his so called successes have been
from a GOP congress voting to change government to fit
an agenda they have had for over 30 years. Trump has
no agenda except to win, to look good, to be popular, to
be mr big, and have everyone who works for him declare
their total loyalty to him. Trump needs to understand thos
in government are supposed to be loyal to the constitution
not to any one man. Trump needs to understand he works
for all the people not just those who voted for him. Somehow
I doubt he ever understands he isn't the smartest, most
popular man in the world. Instead he claims "Fake News"
when it exposes him for what he is. I think most of us
already have an opinon on what he is, so I won't add mine.

This comming year Trump and the GOP are talking about
infrastructure. After the big tax cut driving up deficits it's
going to be hard to find the money. I think they should
tax big business more on infrastructure since without good
roads and bridges their business would be gone. Being an
election year it's not likely the GOP will pass anything that
hurts people on medicare or medicaid. Hopefully the
democrats will gain control of the senate and or the house.
Otherwise the GOP will continue hurting the poor and the
needy claiming it costs too much. Yet they give billions in
tax breaks to big business even though they don't need it.

Lately many women have come out to talk about sexual
harassment. To change men they have to gain more control.
Women down through history have been treated like second
class citizens. They need to get out and run for political office
if they wish to change the rules on how men can treat women.
Some men will always try to run women's lives, but they have
to stand up for them selves if they want real change.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 30, 2017, 12:05:18 pm
Not much new except the interview lTrump had. This interview
should tell his supporters what kind of man they support. A man
who thinks he is smarter than anyone else. A man who lies almost
continuously. Is he trying to convince himself, or anyone who will
listen?

Personally I think the major media should give Trump credit for
every stupid thing he does. This would make it harder for Trump
to call it fake. The same with the GOP and Democrats.

I think the american people are smart enough to see the
damage  Trump has done.. Some may follow Trump like sheep
to be slaughtered, but I think most see him for what he is. A
 man who will say or do anything to make money and win favor
for himself, no matter who it hurts. Even if it tears our country
apart.

I think Trump will claim any GOP losses in 2018 will be due to
illegal  voters just as he did when he lost the popular vote. I
think election 2018 should be called judgment day for our
country. A day to decide what's right for the USA..
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 31, 2017, 12:27:06 pm
The year ends with the rich getting richer and the poor
poorer. Trump and the GOP worked to pass a tax cut that
saved the riches people in our country a Trillion dollars
over the next 10 years. Leaving the middle class with
little or nothing, but mostly empty promises.

The claim the middle class will make a extra $4000.00 a
year or more. Why?, because of all the money they saved
big business will trickle down to workers. This promise has
been made by the GOP for 30 years, but  the only ones who
benifit are the rich, not the workers.

The GOP and Trump represent the richest people who seem
to forget if they take all the money from the consumer there
won't be anyone to buy their services or products. This is what
triggered the great depression of the 1930's. When people's
income is reduced to the point they can't buy what they need.
Those who provide go broke and will increase the unemployed.
A chain reaction that leads to an economic disaster. It seems
people who are rich will always try to get richer. This leads to
risk taking that often causes loss of jobs and economic
depressions.

This is why regulations are put on big business and to
limit risk taking that can hurt the economny. Of course
big business and rich don't  want to be limited, they feel
they have the right to do anything they want. No matter
who it hurts. Many times in the past the super rich has
cost thousaqnds of jobs for no other reason than to punish
a competitor. People seem to forget the rich are humans
with the same faults and failing as the rest of us. Unfortuantly
with a lot of money a lot of damage can be done. A poor man
making a bad decsion usually only hurts himself, but a rich
man's bad decision can hurt thousands. Regulations help
prevent the latter. The same regulations Trump and the GOP
want to get rid of. Because they think they are smarter than
everyone else. Usually those who think they are smart have
a lot to learn.

Looking forward to what I hope is a better new year
for us all.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 03, 2018, 01:06:16 pm
President Trump continues to act like a playground  bully. His
tweets remind me of an internet bully. Ever notice when he is
physically with other leaders he is meek. At least he gives that
appearance.

Trump always reminds me of a redneck. At least those I have
known over the years. They like coffee shop politicians seem
to think strong talk and quick fixes will solve problems. In
reality this way of doing things usually causes more problems
in the end. When millions of people are evolved there is no
such thing as a quick fix.

It has been reported that Trump had not planned to win the
election. He was mostly just wanting to make a bigger name
for himself. In other words he was using the election to promote
himself and not to make the country greater.

Trump broke with the Asian alliance which helped
China to become a economic world leader. Trumps
lack of experience is costing the USA alot in the long 
run. Trump is a poor business man who gained
fame on a TV show. A show that made Trump
look like great businessman even though it
was all a fantasy. This is why Trump is doing
such a poor job of being president. He is an
actor who needs a script to do anything
worthwhile.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 06, 2018, 12:19:44 pm
President Trump is upset about the book Fire and Fury because he
was under the impression it was gong to make him look good not
bad. The auther wouldn't have had acess otherwise.

Trump and many in the GOP has opened up are coastlines to oil exploring.
They don't seem to realized even small accidents will spoil coastlines and
tourism along with fishing. One like the oil spill in the gulf of mexico would
be very bad. Trump has removed regulations that were put on oil companies
to prevent another gulf accident.  Just like the GOP Trump supports big
business needs over the rights of the people.

Trump seems to think the justice department and the FBI are
supposed to protect him from leagle difficculties  Not only that
but to go after people he doesn't like.

The GOP has spent millions of tax dollars going after the Clintons
for political reasons, which they have admitted.  I think the
democrats should make the GOP repay all tax dollars wasted
by them. Investigating people for policial reasons is wrong and
any party responsible should have to pay for such actions. Any
attempt to deceive the voting public should be punished, be it
for politics or anything else.

Trump and the GOP are still trying to limit voting by any groups
who don't supporet the GOP. A committee was abandoned due
to leagle problems. So now Trump has turned it over to  homeland
security. This may make it easier to limit voting by intimidation.
Homeland security could put armed guards at polling places
which would be intemidating to minorities. I fear the longer
the GOP and Trump run our government, they will work to to
take more rights away from minorities, LGBT, and women. 

Perhaps in the past the country was controlled by white rich
people. The country is changing, the old guard will have to
live with it. I fear it will be a hard fight over the next decade.
I hope we don't end up loosing our democracy. In the 1930's
we came close to doing so. When people hurt they grasp at
anything be it good or bad in the end.

History has shown control by one party leads to problems. Single
party control ends up stepping on the rights of those who don't
agree with the party. Authoritarians like single party control use
the excuse they are working for the people. This is almost always
a lie.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 08, 2018, 12:33:31 pm
President Trump continues to claim the Russians
didn't help him win.  Even though there is plenty
of evidence they did work to support him over
H Clinton.

Russias Putin has been working for several years
to help people of other countries win elections to
gain favorable support for Russian involement in
those countries. It's much cheaper than using
meilitary action to do the same.

The involvement may only be better treaties for
fishing or over flights by spy aircraft. Perhaps  even
to build a military base, or be able to mine for
valuable resources.

So far the GOP and Trump seem to be ignoring this
activity by Russia. Perhaps the GOP feels Putin will help
them stay in power if they don't rock the boat.

After what Trump and the GOP has done since the 2016
elections I wouldn't put anything past them. 

Trump continues to claim he has no involvement with
Russia, and no collusion with them. Of course the special
counsil isn't just looking at collusion, but at cover ups and
obstruction of justice. Also possible money laundering as
well. So the President best be careful he may end up and
a country club style prison in the end.

The GOP is trying to discredit the special counsil, apparently
hopeing the public won't demand Trumps impeachment
when the special counsils investigation is complete. I tend
to think the GOP is loosing credibility as they continue
trying to protect Trump. It's sad to see elected officials
pracitially bow and kiss Trumps feet with their extravagant
praise.

www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 10, 2018, 12:50:46 pm
President Trump allways cries "Unfair" when a court judge
doesn't descide in his favor. From what I have read he has
been this way for many years.  I am sure we can remembers
during his campaign he claimed a judge was against him.

Trump is wanting to change libel laws, apparently wanting
to stop people from writing about him, or any public official.
This would be a huge strike against the 1st amendment of
the constitution. Those in public office are generally not protected
by libel laws. To change this would take away much of our
freedom of speech.  If Trump would ignore those who write
about him, most of it would be ignored by the public at
large, but his ego gets the best of him and he goes on and
on about it all.

Gerrymandering is the process to set up voting districts to
benifit one party or the other. The GOP being a minority
has used this to gain an advantage by diffusing Democrat
voters to make it almost impossible for Democrats to win.
Democrats have been guilty of this too, but the GOP holds
the record for building districks that look more like spagetti
than a fairly balanced district. To the dismay of the GOP some
federal judges have required them to redraw their districts so
they don't discriminate againsts minorities, and to gain partisan
advantage ..

The GOP is pushing back even planning to take this to the supreme
court. Claiming they have a right to discriminate against anyone
to build their voting districts.

The GOP has faught to limit voting for years. Even to place armed
guards outside voting centers to imtemidate minority voters.  They
have no shame when it comes to winning elections. I hope for the
good of the country the GOP looses their fight to gain by this
process that is more about cheating than fair play. The drawing of
voting district should be set by constitution instead of political ideals.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 11, 2018, 12:06:55 pm
President Trump claimes the book "Fire and Fury" is all lies. Yet
during his TV meeting with members of congress he repeated
saying "No Colusion" 7 times in 90 seconds.Makes one wonder
who he is trying to convince. Himself or the public at large?

He complains the media only talk about his connection with
Russia. If he would quit talking about it it's likely little would
be on the news.

After almost one year in office he still wants to talk about H.Clinton.
Just like he was still running for office. This foolishness only
makes Trump look like he is loosing his mind. It seems Trump
has to blame someone else when his performance as President
is attacked. He claimes the FBI treated her better even though
they did more to hurt her chances, and didn't mention he was
under investigation at the same time. To me it just shows how
little he understand his job as president. Instead he continues
trying to sell himself and please his ego.

Now Trump is giving favorable treatment to banks especially
one that has loaned him billions of dollars over the last 20
years or more, and he and his family still owes hundreds of
millions.  This is another broken promise by Trump. He said
he would come down on banks who didn't treat people right,
instead he is doing the opposite.

Trump is still wanting a wall that is a big waste of money. A
fence with sensors to report intrusion would work as well.
People who want to bring people into our country can blow
a hole in a wall. By the time boarder patrols arrive they would
likely be gone. More drugs are coming from the far east
than through Mexico. Also I think most drugs
coming from Mexico are in cars and trucks. There isn't
enough time to check every vehicle that crosses
the boarder. So drugs get through. Also commercially 
available drones can carry up to 50 pounds. That could
carry a lot of drugs to predetermined locations using
GPS. Drop it and fly back. Even if they lost the drone
it would likely be cost effective. A wall won't stop
that. It's just Trump wanting to  make his supporters
happy. Tax payers will end up paying for a wall that
is more show than anything else. It makes the
USA look bad as well.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 11, 2018, 07:14:31 pm
Way to go, Trump!  >:(  Open mouth, insert foot. Ain't no way for Trump to back himself out of this one.  :D What a fool!  :D  :D  :D
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics/immigrants-shithole-countries-trump/index.html?sr=fbCNN011118immigrants-shithole-countries-trump0503PMStoryVideo
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 12, 2018, 12:10:50 pm
President Trump just doubled down on his racist feelings.
Calling people of color a name he should use for himself
and anyone who think they are better than anyone else.
A name that we can't even use on this forum.

Now he is denying it, today he is making a speech about
Martin Luther King. A man who wouldn't put himself above
others. Trump should apologize to all people of color and
to the people of this country for his racism then resign.

No, Trump will continue working to undo anything Obama
did, because Trump doesn't believe a manority or woman
should be or ever be president. To divide the country instead
of working  to bring it together. The GOP leadership doesnt
care about gays, minorities women, abortion, or immigration
except for the votes it gives them by their opposition.

The GOP only wants to pass an agenda they want, and Trump
will sign anything they want. So they are not going to oppose
him as long as they are in power. Much less impeach him.


www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 14, 2018, 12:38:05 pm
President Trump was on the golf course when Hawaii was reported
by mistake to have a missile headed their way. In this case we
should be thankful that Trump wasn't watching TV then to make
a Tweet that might have convenced N Korea we were about to
make a first strike against them.

One might wonder how Trump would respond to a real attack. He
doesn't seem to believe government agencies. So would he
have to see it on Fox News first? Who can say?

The bad mistake saying Hawaii is under attack was due
to a worker there pressing the wrong button. Trump is
blaiming the state of Hawaii for the mistake. I think the
worse part was how long it took to clarify the mistake. A
all clear should have been reported quickly. Not over 30
minutes of terror the Hawaiian  public had to live through.

It seems anytime Trump deny's something, we should believe
him even though he has lied over 2000 times in 2017. Personally
I don't believe anything he says unless proven by facts, because
of his lies. One of the last lies was about Obama paying Britain
too much to build our new embassy there. The facts are it cost
us nothing. The sale of the old building and other deals paid for
the new one. Also it was President Bush had pushed for the new
embassy, not Obama.

Some of Trumps lies appear to be designed to devert attention
his mistakes and ignorant moves. Or perhaps to keep his supporters
happy.

The GOP just makes excuses for him. I really think he could shoot
someone in cold blood and the GOP leaders would try to protect
him.

Several GOP congressmen are saying they won't run for office
during the midterm election. I think it's because they know
they would likely loose, and  don't want the loss on their
record. That way if and when they want to run again they
won't have the name of having lost an election. These are
GOP members who ignored the wishes of the people to pass
the GOP agenda, and not the wishes of the people they claim
represent.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 15, 2018, 12:44:27 pm
The medical of President Trump was as exopected. Trump is in
exellant health. Only thing the doctor mispelled his name when
he signed it.  :P

It is very likely that report was forged by orders from Trump. It's
nothing new for the health of presidents to be hidden. Kennedy had
a back problem. FDR used a wheel chair even though they tried to
hide his need for it. President Wilson had a stroke and his wife
covered for him. So we can be sure if Trump has a serious health
issue we won't likely hear about it.

Trumps foul language continues to cause him and the GOP
problems. The GOP can't remember, and Trump claims it was
just strong language. Trump and the GOP lie to cover them selves
so I am sure the truth is what was reported by the Democrat who
heard Trump say it and repeated it as he always does
with any idea he wants to push.

It's not so much the words spoken as it shows what
is in Trumps heart. Trumps actions over the years
show what he is even though he deny's it.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 16, 2018, 12:06:57 pm
After President Trump found out how his words
hurt him instead of helping him he now deny's saying
them and requiring those around him to deny it
as well. Even the GOP went from a bad memory to
saying Trump didn't say it  Nothing but a chain of
lies which Trump lives by.

It would seem the Dreamers will end up paying the
price of Trump not wanting to agree to giving them a
path to citizenship. This group of people are some
of the hardest workers and best educated of our
country. It's likely we will loose many of them to
countries who appreciate hard working immigrants.
The USA will be the big loosers and this action
by the Trump administration makes our country
poorer not great again.

This country needs immigration reform, but the
GOP wants to use this for votes, so fixing it is
not going to happen as long as they control
the government.

Trump wants to blaime the Democrats if there
is a government shut down even though the
GOP has congrol of the white house, congress
and the senate. The Democrats are happy to
work with the GOP as long as it's a comprimise
and not a giving into GOP demands. Or Trumps
either.

Immigration has been blaimed for job loss, and
crime for many years. When in fact it's diversity
that has mad our country the greatest in the world.
It's usally those who are too lazy to work that
complain the most. Immigrants are willing to do
jobs that many Americans think they are too
good to do. So they blaime others for their problems.
Down through history people have placed blaime on
immigrants. In the late 1800's many people
immigrated to this country looking for a better
life. Now their decendants are wanting to keep
others from having the same oppertunity.

Trump himself is the decendant of german
and Scottish immigrants. Trump and many
others like him have little respect for the
poor and those of color.  To him and those
like him feel these people are only good for
service jobs like cleaning, yard work and
waiting on others. If your not rich your a
looser in his mind.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 17, 2018, 12:31:20 pm
President Trump said he would co operate with investigations so
why did he place a GAG order on Steve Bannon? If Trump has
nothing to hide he should stay out of it. Or perhaps this is more
proof that Trump does have things to hide. There is much
evidence that Trump has had a lot of business in Russia.
Even though he continues to deny it. Most likely more of
his lies.

Our National Parks are at risk under the Trump administration,
Could it be Trump is willing to give anything to big business
as long as they support him and the GOP? Our National
Parks are national treasures. Once they are gone or spoiled
there is no way to fix or replace them. Money grubbing
billionaires like Trump care little for anything but money.
Trump claimed he couldn't be bought, but he has been
selling pay for play and our integrity ever since his
inauguration.

Only Congress or the courts can stop Trump. The GOP
acts like his lapdog and will do little to stop him. He
continues to claim any news that doesn't praise him
is fake. If we loose the free press government can do
anything they want. Trump appears to be encouraging
autocrats around the world to  follow his lead on
calling unwanted news FAKE. There are over 200 news
reporters in jail around the world and increasing. Stalin
of the Soviet Union called the media a danger to the
people, and Trump seems to be following Stalin who
like Hitler had anyone who stood against him killed or
imprisoned.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 18, 2018, 12:29:04 pm
President Trump is playing politics with a government shutdown.
He is likely plans to jump in a the last moment claiming to
save the day when he created the problem to begin with. The
last few days he has been acting undecided saying the Democrats
won't work with the GOP to pass a budget extension that will
prevent a government shutdown.

In reality the GOP can't get enough of their members to pass a
bill to prevent the shutdown without help from the Democrats.
The GOP is claiming the Dmocrats won't work with them. This
is a lie because the GOP won't work with the Democrats to create
the bill  they want to pass. Then when the Democrats won't agree
support the GOP agenda they hope to mislead the public saying the
Democrats are at fault. When it's the GOP and Trump created the
problem, because they won't agree to compromise.

Compromise is how government is supposed to work. One party trying
to push it's agenda on everyone causes division and other problems.
The GOP knows their hard ball actions will be overturned in the future.
So instead of trying to grab all they can they should return to good
government by working with everyone. This way when power shifts
time won't be wasted putting everything back in order.


The investigation with Trump and his campaigns connecting
to Russia continues. This link should have the latest info.

www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 19, 2018, 12:09:11 pm
A possible government shutdown.

President Trump said in the past that the president is responsible
for any government shutdown. Guess what? He doesn't agree with
that now. The GOP and Trump are playing politics by saying this is
due to  the Democrats when Trump caused it by claiming he would
sign a bipartisan bill to fund government. He then changed his mind
backed up leaving the GOP wondering what to do.

Of course the GOP and Trump want to blaime the Democrats. They say
lets fund government now and talk later. The Democrats know that
the "LATER" never arrives. The GOP and Trump are using these kick the
can down the road funding is just them trying to push their agenda.
They don't seem to  care this activcity costs the tax payer because no
one can make plans for government projects. Even the Military can't
work  well this way. They should fund the government for the year
and be done with it.

I hope the public  see's this for what it is. The GOP is trying to use
the fact the Democrats want to fix the Dreamer problem and
insurance for poor kids to get their way. The GOP cries crocodile
tears for the kids and the Dreamers. They should be ashamed,
but they never are.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 20, 2018, 12:37:45 pm
President Trump and the GOP feel all he has to do is blaime the Democrats
to get their way. Trump seems to have forgot he himself said in 2013 that
it's the responsibility of the president  to keep the government working.
Instead he is just claiming it's all the Democrats at fault.

So now our genius President has stuck his foot in it now. His lack of decision
has shut down the government. Seems he forgot the buck stops with the
leader or in this case the president. Instead he listens to the far right when
they claim his supporters will leave him if he doesn't kick the Dreamers
out of the country. Trump made a lot of promises during his campaign. So
far he has done little except make rich people like himself richer. His great
tax plan isn't making more jobs. Perhaps a million people have gotten a
bonus, but mostly it's offset by many people being laid off.

Walmart gave it's employees a raise, then closed a lot of stores. They offered
a bonus to employees who worked at least 20 years. From what I have seen
Walmart has a big trunover so I doubt if they had many people who got them.
This is just one big business who isn't passing much of their tax savings
along to their employees. The GOP could have cut taxes for the middle
class which would have given the savings directly to the people, but  no
they gave it to people who didn't need it.

Trump has cut many regulationss that protect public safety and health. Why?
To increase profits for his big business friends and supporters.

The GOP say they want to work with the Democrats, but it's a lie.
They sit in closed rooms and make bills without any imput from
Democrats. Then when the Democrats won't agree to it they are
called bad uncaring people by the GOP and Trump. The GOP leaders
won't bring bills to the floor because they say passing a bill Trump
won't sign is a waste of time. It's not the responsibility of congress
to only pass bills the president will sign. That's what the presidents
veto is for.  The GOP doesn't want to embarrass Trump by sending
him a bill he has little or no good reason to veto.

This shudown isn't just about immigration it's about the GOP doing
their job. A year long funding and budget needs to be passed. For
3 years the GOP has had continuing resolutions. Stalling time and
time again. The GOP caused the last shutdown. There are many
things that need funding, but the GOP wants to reduce government
so they can cut taxes. They don't seem to care about public safety.
Let the states handle it. Well some businesses are so big they can
intimidate a whole state to get what they want. So we need the
central government to stop bad ideas that hurt everyone.

This shutdown is on the shoulders of the GOP and Trump no matter
how much they cry crocodile tears and whine about it. How long it
lasts should be up to them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 21, 2018, 12:51:41 pm
The Trump Shutdown.

The GOP is shedding crocodile tears for sick kids 
even though they could have had a vote for insurance
coverage for them. Instead the GOP puts it in a continuing
resolutions because they thought the Democrats would
forced to vote for it.

The Democrats offered to keep the government open on a day
by day or two basis while working on a compromise, but
the GOP said No!. The Democrats offered to maintain
pay for the military, but the GOP said No!

This proves the GOP is doing all they can to make the Democrats
look like the bad guys. Even if it hurts people.



President Trump who complains about Latino immigrants is fine
with a surge of Russians coming into the country. In fact he is
renting apartments to them in Trump Tower. I suppose if an
immigrant is rich and white he is fine with it. He talks about
immigrants of color being criminals, but ignores criminal
actions of white rich Russians and people from the far
east.

A lot of drugs come to the country from the far east, along
Asians over staying their visas. Why doesn't Trump talk
about this problem. How come the GOP doesn't require
businesses and them selves to not hire illegal immigrants?
This alone would slow or stop illegal immigration.

The GOP doesn't want to fix the immigration problem. They
want the votes they get for opposing immigration. The
Democrats hands aren't totally clean either. Everyone seems
to forget is this country is made up of immigrants. The only
ones who are not are the Indians who came here thousands
of years ago.

The ad on TV saying the Democrats would be complicit for any
deaths by illegal immigrants because they shut the government
down only plays to the ignorant. If we are going to say this, then
President Trump is complicit for any deaths caused by his actions.

Besides the GOP's actions is why we have the shutdown. The Democrats
finally stood up and said No to the GOP who won't work or compromise.
Also due to a president who can't or won't make a decision and stand
by it. Even the GOP have said Trump won't tell them what he wants.
I think Trump only wants to stand by and let others do the work. He
doesn't want the responsibility required of any decision.

The so called Moral majority has lost their Morality by
supporting Trump. A man who has none. I am not a
fan of abortion, or homosexuality, but it's not my
place to say we need laws against it. People should
have a right to  decide what's right for them selves.
One persons beliefs must not be forces on others.
This country was founded on the rights of personal
beliefs. Not for any one belief. As long as it doesn't
harm others. People who claim their religious beliefs
are harmed should remember the passage "Judge not
lest you be judged."


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 22, 2018, 12:17:39 pm
The Trump Shutdown continues into it's 3rd day.

If you call the White House you hear a message blaiming
the Democrats for the shutdown. Since when is it legal to
use tax payer money to make political claims?  Trump seems
to think it's ok. It's not the business of congress or the president
to blame either side. Instead they need to be working to do the
work they were elected to do, and not try to pass an agenda
they claim the American people want, even though a majority of
the people often don't, and they know it. Trouble is there is so
many lies  by the president and congress there is no real trust
that the GOP the president will do what they say.

If the Democrats do give in, will the GOP and the president keep
their promise?  If they don't it's likely there will be another shutdown
in a few weeks. I fear this is what will happen knowing Trump and
the GOP. Their record is to lie and stall to get their way, and the
far right isn't going to give in easily.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 24, 2018, 12:38:44 pm
President Trump campaigned on making good deals for exports
and imports. So far it appears he has done more to give China
the lead in world trade, not the U.S.A.  This will hurt U.S. workers
and businessmen in the long  run. Good trade requires compromise
when making deals with others. Something Trump doesn't do.
Instead he trys to bully others. He points to the stock market
as proof of his success in office, but the market has been climbing
at a steady rate for the last  8 years. Inspite of the GOP. Big banks
have been dumping money into the market to support it. This may
lead to a crash if trade or sales fails to support it.

Only about half the public own stock in the market, and most of
them don't own very much. It's a rich mans game that most people
can't afford to play.


Trump claims he has done a lot over the past year, but most of
what he has done is to undo what Obama tried to do. Much has
been deregulation that helps big business and creates health and
safety problems for the public and hurts our enviroment. He has
opened up large coastal tracks to oil exploration. Oddd thing
is he kept the coast line of Florida protected. Most of these
areas have been protected since the 1970's for fear of oil spills
much like the one that happened in the Gulf of Mexico in 2010.
Oil spills not only hurts fishing and the environment it also hurts
tourism in the affected area. Trump seems to be very short
short sighted with his decisions. A president has to work with
many people to understand how decisions affect us all. No one
man is smart enough to make such decisions on his own. It may
take decades to undo the damage Trump has done.

Trump claims to be a genius business man, but this is a fantasy
dreamed up for his TV show. In reality he has went bankrupt 4
times, with other failures and isn't the multi billionaire he claims
to be. He is a good salesman, and con artist, but not a good
business man. His super  ego always gets in his way.

The creator of Amazon, a business worth 100 billion, has done
more to help people from his start with a online bookstore 20
years ago than Trump ever has in 40 years.. Trump stands
envious of him claiming he doesn't follow the rules. Well Trump
has no room to talk as his own background proves.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 25, 2018, 12:31:35 pm
The Democrats gave in to GOP attacks and voted to open the
government back up. They should have never voted for a shutdown
unless they were willing to stand firm. They have to fight back and
not bow to GOP threats and lies. They and Trump have no shame
when when it comes to making up half truthes and lies. With them
it's all about winning. No matter who it hurts.

The GOP leadership is doing all they can to protect Trump who protects
their agenda. They know if they had to impeach Trump his voters
would turn against them. Also it's likely Trump would run as a
inonindependent in 2020. This would be a disaster for the GOP as
it would split the GOP vote. This is why they accepted him as a
candidate in 2016.

They are even trying to  discredit the FBI hoping to discredit the
special counsil Muller so when he likely shoes Trump guilty of
a cover up and or working for the Russians the GOP can
say it's just a partisan attack and ignore it. They accuse the
of being partisan when the GOP is nothing but partisan. The
FBI helped Trump win yet the GOP tries to say they are against
Trump.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 26, 2018, 12:43:22 pm
President Trump is a professional lier. He lies when good thing
happen, and when bad things happen. The GOP stands behind
Trumps lies. If Trump deny's anything they claim to believe him.

By doing this they ruin their own credibility. Trump has no credibility
with few if any world leaders. They watch to see what he does
instead. This so called fake news thing is just a idea Trump plays
to cover his mistakes and bad ideas.

I am sure many of his supporters want to believe him. No matter
what he does or says.

If Trump tries this with the special counsil Muller, he will be guilty
of lies that may put him in prison. Probably dragging others
with him. I doubt if Trump ever admits he did anything
wrong. If impeached he will claim it's just a plot by the
democrats to get rid of him. It will be them that are guilty of
lies, not  him.

Trump continues to claim he is putting America first, it's a lie
because he puts his self first. The tax cut saved him and
his family hundreds of millions in taxes. Along with his
rich supporters.

Trump claims he is responsible for the stock markets climb,
but he fails to mention other world markets are doing better
than ours. Also world job groth is better than here in the US.
In fact job groth was better in 2016 than in 2017, Trumps
first year in office.  If we have a recession Trumps tax cut
can't be done again to boost the economy. Doing it now was
foolish when the economy was already doing very well. The
GOP  and Trump did it only for politics and their rich supporters.
Not for the good of the country. Big business was already flush
with money. Otherwise the stock market wouldn't have doing
so well. This just blows the balloon bigger., and if pops people
will go broke like they did in 1928. That  led to the great
depression. The very rich love to gamble at the expense of
the public at large.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 28, 2018, 01:09:08 pm
This tuseday President Trump will make his first state of the union
address . Will he only talk about what he feels he has done for the
country or will he speak to what he need to improve life for all the
people and not just those who voted for him.

Will he mention the special counsil investigation of his possible misdeeds
during his campaign and time in office? To hear him he is pure as the
driven snow. Even though there appears to be much evidence to the
contrary..

When Trump ran for office he claimed no one could buy him because he
is so ricch. This was a lie because he has been bought many times since
the started running for president. Bought by anyone who would help him
get elected.  Far right billionaires top the list.

Trump is good at reading speeches off a teleprompter, but very poor at
speaking off the cuff. He has a habit, apparently developed over the years
of making up lies and stories to fit any subject. Likely good for selling, but
poor for honesty. To sell you must convince those your selling to that
you know what your doing, otherwise your not going to be a good
salesman. Trump being a good salesman uses all the tricks
 of the selling trade to get what he wants.

 Unfortunately people who want to believe Trump and the far right can
easily be led by a man like Trump. Many people are led astray by such
people. Once caught up this way it's very hard to change peoples mind.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 29, 2018, 12:49:50 pm
President Trump is going to have to have an interview with the
special counsil soon. Some are calling this a perjury trap, but
Trump only has to tell the truth to avoid being charged with
perjury.

He can't avoid this interview because if he tries the
special counsel can subpoena Trump to appear
before a grand jury. There he would have to sit alone
without any lawyer support at his side. It's likely to h
happen at the white house recorded on video to prevent
Trump from trying to claim he didn't say something. He
has tried to make these claims in the past.

There are suspicions that Trump may fire the
deputy attorney general, and replace him with
someone who to put limits on the special counsel
Muller. Trump appears to thinkhe has done something
in his past that will get him in serious trouble. Time
will tell.

The GOP is wanting to release a memo that supposedly
 shows that the FBI is working to hurt Trumps presidency.
releasing this memo may hurt national security. It has
been reported this memo has been made up taking info
out of context to make the FBI look bad. Seems the GOP
will do anything to protect Trump. Even lie.

The justice department has told the GOP that releasing this
memo is a bad idea and could hurt the country.

www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 31, 2018, 01:16:14 pm
President Trump made his state of the union speech. The
first part of it was fairly upbeat, but then he went into bad
mouthing immigrants, and N Korea. Not much said about the
future other than some vague promises he always makes.

He talked about all the jobs comming back into the country, but
failed to mention 100,000 jobs were moved out of the country
during his first year of office. He made a huge deal about
Carrier not moving jobs to Mexico, but many of their jobs
ended up going to Mexico after all.

Trump was heard saying he would release the Memo made up
by the GOP to bad mouth the FBI.  Trump will likely use this
memo as an excuse to fire the deputy attorney general, because
the has helped the FBI to investigate the Trump campaign. Trump
will likely replace him with someone who will limit the special counsels
investigation. Or even to fire Muller hopeing to end his Russian troubles.

Trump continues to not do his job requiring him to impose sanctions
on Russia that congress passed last year. Trump claims that Russia
doesn't deserve them and won't empose them. So the question
continues about why Trump won't say or do anything against
Russia. We do know the Trump family has barrowed a lot of
money from Russia. Perhaps this is why Trump treats Russia
with kid gloves. More of Trump first, Not America first.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 01, 2018, 12:20:52 pm
It appears the GOP has tossed out the US constitution in favor of Trump.
The chairman of the intelligence committee has worked with the White
house to create misleading documents trying to discredit the FBI  and
the Justice Department. All trying to convince the public at large the
FBI and Justice department can't be trusted. This last memo he and
in the GOP created if revealed can hurt the nations security by letting
other countries know how we gather information.

People both in the FBI and the Justice department that Trump himself
appointed are warning Trump the memo should not be released. Yet
Trump plans to release it.

Is Trump working for America or Russia? At this time who can say?

Trump said he wanted to  get rid of corruption in our government, hire
the best people, and work hard. Well corruption has increased, and
people he has hired are not the best. To say Trump works hard is a joke. 

Only the voters can stop Trump. The Democrats can't do much more
than complain. The GOP is kissing Trumps feet to pass their
agenda. You can be sure they will do all they can this
year because it's likely next year they will only be able to
complian about the Democrats after the mid term
elections.

You can be sure Trump will be out campaigning. Saying the
Democrats are out to impeach him. So they must vote to
keep the GOP in power.

The GOP and Trump will point to their big Tax Cut and the
economy as a reason to vote for the GOP. Even though the
economy has been growing for several years, not because
of Trump or the GOP. Many of Trumps voters are becoming
disenchanted since they have seen little improvement of
better paying jobs.

A few businesses have passed some of their tax savings
to give pay raises and hire more workers. Is this a token
response or a change? Only time will tell. People should
understand the GOP tax cuts for the public are temporary,
and will go away in a couple years or so. It's called buying
votes. The tax cuts for business and rich are permanent.

Trump brags on the GOP tax cut, but he never mentions
that the same tax cut encourages big business to operate
in other countries instead of here in the U.S.A.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.com)

www.investigaterussia.org (http://www.investigaterussia.org)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 02, 2018, 12:16:06 pm
President Trump tells the GOP they can release the memo to the
public. A document designed to give aid to the President. Not
for the good of the country. Trump will likely use as an excuse to
fire those who aren't loyal to him personally.

President Trump claims he worries about national security, but
the only security he is concerned about is his and and that of his
family. Otherwise he wouldn't even consider any idea to publicly
run down the FBI or the Justice department. Both of which work to
protect us all. Now I am sure some would like to see law and order
reduced so they could take advantage of peoples natural wants and
desires. The FBI goes after moonshiners. They go after organized
crime. They work to prevent terrorist acts. If we let Trump and
the GOP undermine them who will protect us? Without trust how
can they solve crimes. Yes even by those in public office.

Leaders of the GOP seem to feel their politics are above the
constitution. They have a duty to hold the president accountable,
not to protect him. I know the GOP has been held back over the
Obama years, and the far right has racist members who want to
take us back to the 1950's where minorities were treated like
second class citizens if not worse. To put homosexuals in jail,
and take away woments rights over their own bodies.

The Democrats are far from perfect, but they support human rights
the constitution and the right to vote by all citiizens. Not just those
who support their party. The GOP and Trump passed the TAX Cut they
called TAX reform. They claimed it would be easier to file, but truned
out more complex than before. It was designed to make the rich richer
and gave temporary tax cuts to the rest of us to gain voter support.

The only ones that can hold the GOP accountable are the voters. If
they allow the GOP to stay in power they will feel empowered to
remove all protection for the poor and the needy. Social security will
be all but eliminated, along with medicare. They don't believe the
government should be in the business of helping the disadvantaged.
They think that should be a local concern of charities. The GOP leaders
want government small and under the control of the rich. Just like how
it was in the days of kings, nobles, and surfs. Why? Because they think
they know whats best for us all.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 03, 2018, 12:26:55 pm
It appears the memo that Trump and the GOP talked about so much
turned out to be more of a egg than anything of value. The memo is
more about a man named Page who was found by the FBI to be involved
with Russia back in 2013. If anything it supports the special counsel
instead of hurting the investigation. Even with Trumps tweets trying to
say otherwise.

This Memo is more about giving Trump an excuse to  fire people and
excite his supporters than anything else. Trying to say a court allows
monitoring someone with just one peice of evidence is misleading as
it takes alot of evidence and to continue to monitor it's required to
show proof of need every 90 days.

The monitoring of Page was approved by Trumps people so it looks more
like egg in the face of the GOP and Trump than anything else. I have a
hunch they won't be talking about something new in a few days.

I hope the GOP and Trump continue their foolish actions. Perhaps
their supporters will learn how apparently crooked the Trump
administration really is.

I think it's interesting when Trump complains about the investigation
of him not ending even though he feels the investigation of Clinton
should go on and on with little or no real evidence of wrong doing.

This country was built with immigrants and with diversity, but
the far right wants us to close our boarders and stick our
heads in the sand while the rest of the world goes on
without us. Oh and the billionaires will play while our
country goes down the tubes.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 04, 2018, 12:09:00 pm
Superbowl sunday with no predictions from President Trump.

Trump was complaining the other day about people who don't respect
or salute the flag or national anthem . I saw Trump fail to salute the
national anthem on national TV until his wife reminded him with a
jab to the ribs. So if he is so patriotic why did his wife had to
remind him to put his hand over his heart?

Carry on while you can Mr. president. Impeachment awaits you.

These people Trump appointed to be federal judges should be
watched closely. Most of them have little or no experience as
judges. Many of Trumps appointments are mostly Trump
supporters without the knowledge to do the job. Perhaps they
have their own interests and Trumps over the country.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 05, 2018, 12:40:32 pm
The GOP and Trump continue to attack the FBI and the Justice Department.
The people they are attacking are appointments by Trump and members of
the GOP. It appears the GOP will turn against anyone who won't stand
totally behind Trump. Even law enforcement. The GOP has a history of
being for law enforcement untill now. They claim the FBI is being partisan
when the GOP is nothing but partisan.  This is complete hypocrisy by the
GOP and Trump.

The FBI only investigates people and actions. The GOP seems to forget
it's the Justice department who takes this to court. If Trump is innocent he
has nothing to worry about. I think the GOP and Trump are afraid the
public will call for impeachment if the special counsel finds Trump guilty
of a cover up. So they want to discredit the investigators to the
public so they won't call for impeachment.

Trump TV and the GOP keep trying to protect Trump. A man who will
sign any legislation he is told will make him look good. Trump only
cares for himself and his family. He knows how to stir people up, but
knows nothing about how to run a country or even a business effectively.
Without the millions given to him by his father he likely wouldn't have
amounted to anything.

If Trump had properly fired Flynn and not fired the FBI director it's likely
it wouldn't even be in the news. Especially if he would hold the  Russians
accountable  for trying to throw the 2016 election. Instead it's his connection
and protection of Russia that is causing him most of his troubles. He seems to
feel he can cover it all up with presidential powers.  Especially with the GOP
leadership helping him.

 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on February 05, 2018, 04:32:05 pm
DOW falls over 1,000 points!  :o
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/05/investing/stock-market-today-dow-jones/index.html

How's that economy now, Trump? *sarcasm*  >:( Knowing him, he'll probably tweet and say it's all the Democrats fault because the stock market is falling.  >:( NOT!
I just hope this is not a warning sign of an impending recession. Trickle down economics does not work! The stock market may have been going up, up, and up. But as the old saying goes: What goes up must come down. I just hope there's no "crash".  :o
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 06, 2018, 12:18:32 pm
Time will tell how far the market will drop. It may only be
a correction. The market has been rising a bit too fast so
I imagine some have been expecting a slowdown if not a
drop

President Trump has been bragging and bragging about  the
market doing so well. Isn't it odd he hasn't said a word about
the drop. I doubt if Trump understands the market other than
it's going up. Going down is likely causing him to pout.

The GOP is still trying to market their say nothing Memo.
They are trying to say the democrats are wanting to release
security information with their rebuff of the GOP memo.
It's up to Trump if he wants to block it. Doing so will just
add to his problems.

Trump tried to accuse the democrats of Treason because they
didn't cheer during his state of the Union address. Trump
apparently doesn't understand what is needed to be guilty
of Treason. It's all about supporting the enemy during war,
 not how people talk about the government or the president.
I think he is using the word to stir his voter base.  Many of
them probably don't know what treason is either.

Trump needs to learn  that being president doesn't make him
some kind of king or monarch requiring loyalty by all.

Trumps lawyers are telling him not to talk to the special
counsel because they fear Trump will lie or tell the truth.
Either way would likely get him in big trouble or impeached.





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 07, 2018, 12:36:25 pm
President Trump says he wants a government shutdown. He likely
thinks it will make the Democrats look bad.

Trump wants to review the troops wiht a big expensive military
parade. Much like those in N Korea or Russia.. We don't have
to show off our hardware to the world. Trump is like a child wanting
to play soldier with his toy army. If Trump wants to be a soldier give
him combat gear and drop him into Iraq. I have a hunch he would be
hiding in a hole like the old leader of Iraq did.

Bringing in huge amounts of military hardware to Washington DC
cause a major disruption of traffic and commerce. But Trump doesn't
care how much his games cost the public. Just like his trips to  Florida.

Again the GOP is going along with Trump. They say small towns
have parades supporting the military so why not have
one for the nation. Well if that's the case just have a lot of troops
march wit bands playing. Then Trump can stand behind his bullet
proof bubbl saluting them and the flag. Of course Trump wants a
lot of hardware to feed his ego. If they do it they should stand
him up on the lead tank. After all monarchs used to go to war
leading their troops.

Time will tell, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump gets the parade
he wants.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 08, 2018, 12:44:50 pm
All this so called DEEP STATE stuff has no foundation. Everyone they are
blaiming belong to the Trump administratioin. Saying the FBI is against
Trump. Then why did they help him win?

Trump says he stands for the people, but the people he is talking about
are those who voted for him. Not the majority who voted for H Clinton.
I think Trump is a Russian Puppet. Likely because he needs their money.
US banks won't loan him any money. Who knows, Putin may be
blackmailing Trump.

We need a President who is honest and works to benefit and protect
the nation from those who would destroy our democracy. Not one
who looks to protect his/her self instead.

Over the years I have heard many conspiracies about the government.
Most were started by people who add up small but bad mistakes by
government law enforcement, even though most of them are not
even connected. Then cry they are after our rights. As of late with
Trump and the GOP's help these people have gained a voice in our
country. In the past people considered them uninformed radicals.
We have to stand up for the FBI and the CIA. They and the police
are all we have against those who would really take our rights for
their own benefit.

I hope removing GOP control of congress is enough to turn us
away from those racist anti immigrants who think the color of
skin determines who has intelligence or criminal intent.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 09, 2018, 12:39:12 pm
The Stock Market continues to be volatile. The president seems
to be bind to it. Perhaps he will get his sight back when and if it
starts up again. Then iam sure he will be bragging again.

It's likely the President knew about the demestic abuse by his
staff member for over a year and did nothing untill the press
revealed the facts. In the past Trump had said a man can't be
accused of raping his wife. So that shows how he feels about
womens rights.

Domestic abuse is common all across the country. Most large
towns and cities have safe houses for abused women. Yet
the GOP trys to side step the issue.  Conservatives have a
habit of supporting men correcting their wives. Even with
violence. Most men love and care for their wives, and share
responsibilities, but some feel they are the boss, so if a women
crosses the line to  correct the man they often want to put
the woman in her place. Then if she tries to stand up for her
self the man often uses violence to cow her.

In  many cases demestic abuse is due to the man not
being able to control their temper. The woman often
want to blame them selves, and end up being battered
or even killed. Unfortuantly it's hard for women to leave
a man they love even though he is abusive.

In some case religious leaders support the man over the
woman due to religious beliefs. Telling them to stay in the
abusive relationship to save the marriage.  This puts the
woman in a terrible situation. Stay or turn against her
beliefs she has been taught , to leave the abuse.

The GOP best change their ways and start supporting
womens rights are they will start loosing elections due
to woman tiring of being treated like second class
citizens. Putting a woman up on a pedestal is not the same
as giving the the respect she deserves as a human being.

The GOP is trying to blame the democrats for budget sequesters
to slow spending. It was their idea in the first place. The GOP used
to run against the democrats saying they tax and spend. Well at
least that is responsible. The GOP wants to cut taxes and spend
even more. The GOP is mostly a Pork barrel party who buys votes
for their members by passing spending bills  for their districts.
 Many of which end up wasting money. Both parties are guilty
of this, but the GOP has the name.

The GOP claim they are for responsible spending and reduced
government. Then they cut taxes that increases debt when the
economy is doing well. Tax cuts are fine when a stimulus is needed
but not when the economy is doing well.  If they wanted to boost
the economy they should  have given the cut to the middle class.
It's they who spend money to buy products that drive business.

Giving welfare to businesses that are doing well is  worse than
giving money to the lazy. At least the lazy will spend the money
that would drive the economy, by not stashing it away. They
shouldn't do either one. They should invest in new tech that
will help us lead the world in the future.  That would drive the
economy and create millions of good jobs.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 10, 2018, 01:03:55 pm
President Trump said he woudln't release the memo by the
democrats because of security issues. Give me a break, this
memo exposed the GOP member for being the fraud it is. So
Trump didn't want to release if ro political reasons.

He feels the GOP memo will give him a good reason to fire
the deputy attorney general, and appoint a acting deputy
attorney general who will shut down the special counsels
investigation ot himself and his campaign of 2016.

This just adds more suspicion on Trump himself instead of
reducing it. Even if Trump and the GOP get rid of the special
counsel the investigation will continue. Even if the GOP keeps
control in 2018. It will hang over Trump, and when the GOP
loose power and the people finally realize who and what he
is Justice should prevail. Even if it's only by historians.

The GOP budget along with their tax cut will increase our
national debt by Trillions of dollars. Hopefully if the democrats
take power they can undo some of this madness. Otherwise
the dollar will loosee value and drive inflation. The saying you
can't get something for nothing applies. I am sure the GOP
will blame the Democrats when this comes home to roost.

Trump claims he got rich by being in debt. Sure if you cheat
the very people out of the money they loaned. That's why no
American bank will loan Trump a dime. So he has gone to
China and Russia for it. Trump also went bankrupt 4 times
and used tax laws to save taxes over a billion dollars in losses.

Personally I think Americans want to earn money honestly, not
by cheating others like Trump preaches "I did it by being smart."


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 11, 2018, 11:58:38 am
Isn't it interesting that President Trump talks about due process only when
it's for his benefit.

No due process for women, but for men only. To hear Trump talk all women
are liars. That includes those who accuse him of sexual abuse. A man who
thinks if's okay to rape ones wife and grab women sexually or otherwise.
Where is the outrage from the religious right? No the leaders of the religous
right only have power and money in mind. Not human rights, or even childrens
rights when they supported an accused pedifile running for the senate of our
country. Also many in the GOP and Trump did as well.

It seems the far right only cares about their agenda. They don't care about
womens rights or childrens rights or minority rights. and LGBT rights. This more
than just politics , it's about human rights and what makes our country better
than countries with autocratic leaders.  If it wasn't for the News media they would
have it all covered up.

I am not running down all republicans, I know many good people who call them
selves republicans.  it's the leaders of the party that have gone nuts. To do
anything to keep power. Even to lie and protect a president who fails to  follow
the constitution. Who tries to tear down law enforcement and our justice system
for his own benefit.

I hope the rank and file of the GOP realize how much damage their leaders
of their party are doing to our democracy.We need a strong two party system
that works for the good of the country, not just one that lies to get what they
want. One party control never works well. Without limits even good people
can go too far with their own ideas if there is no objections to force them to
see both sides. Without compromise it's just stepping on people.





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 12, 2018, 12:49:05 pm
President Trump is starting to push for  infrastructure.  . Obama
to get the GOP to work on infrastructure 2012, but they ignored
him. Apparently so he wouldn't get the credit. It will be interesting
to see how it goes. I am afraid though the GOP will give some
companies special deals. Money under the table so to speak.
Also Trump is pushing to reduce impact studies to speed up
new work. This would be fine as long as it keeps the environment
protected. Destruction of environment will cost more in the
long run if ignored. Regulations should be reviewed, not
ignored or gotten rid of willy nilly.


Will President Trump fire his chief of staff for ignoring other staff
reported to be abusive of their family? I doubt Trump even cares
privetly if someone slaps their wives around. Trump has been
accused of being sexually abusive himself. He feels if a man
says they are innocent they are, because he says women lie.

Soon commercially available drones will be able to carry well over
one hundred  pounds to a programed location. So how is Trumps
wall going to stop drug trafficking with drones like this. By the
time boarder agents detect such flights the drugs will be dropped
off and on their way to points unknown.

Trumps wall will require a lot of maintinance, not counting repairs
explosives blowing holes in it. It would be much better to use a
fence with sensors. I said in the past they should put internet
cameras up about every 100 yards. Then using  motion detectors
they could catch almost all boarder activity.

According to Trump the Dreamers shouldn't worry because they
are going to be a low priority on the kick them out of our country
list.  If they believe that they had best pack their bags, because
they will loose their jobs when they loose their dreamer status
next month.Then as jobless they will be on the priority list.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 14, 2018, 12:56:16 pm
Reports are the Russianns are already trying to affect the 2018 mid
term election. Yet President Trump is still treating Russia like they
are his buddies that are being treated wrongly by the media.

It's not Trumps job to kiss up to Putin. He is supposed to be
protecting our country from threats to our democracy. Trump
continues to cut the State department. Trump seems to thoink
he can talk and make deals with other countries better. 

Trump still acts like he can run the government like a big business.
He doesn't understand it's not a business with him as a CEO. His
cabinet isn't a board of directors. He can demand total loyalty from.

In business the owner can act like a dictator, but the president is only
one of three. President, congress, and the Courts. They all work
together with equal power. Trump wants to have total power. This is
why he has had so much trouble.

Now it comes out over 40 people in the white house do not have
permanent security clearance. These people can't seem to pass
cclearence by the FBI for one reason or another. So Trump gives
them temporary security clearence to see our most secret documents.
Even Trump as a private citizen couldn't get security Clarence due
to his past activities. So it appears Trump hiring his friends who
likely have been in bed with Trump can't get clearance either.
Who can say what skeletons they have in their closets that could
get them blackmailed? What secrets would they hand out if they
faced threats of exposure?

Trump doesn't seem to understand the danger of this. They
nandle secrets that could get people killed or cost our country
an advantage in military power. A loss of which could get
millions killed.  Or at least soldiers killed.

Some of Trumps supporters may not care if we lead the world
in anything. This might sound good in the short term, but this loss
will cost Americans good jobs in the future. Because other
countries will look to others to buy their products instead. We do not
exist as an island, to do well the people of the world need to work
together. That has been Americas goal, to make the world a
better place for all. Even though some leaders want to step on
others for their own benefit, and power.


His promises are empty except to stay in office.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 15, 2018, 01:01:40 pm
17 die in school shooting in a Florida school.

President Trump and the GOP give their condolences, but nothing to
improve background checks, or the mentally  ill. In fact Trump and
the  GOP made it easier for a mentally ill person to aquire a fire arm
in 2017.

It's impossible to prevent every shooting, but there are a few things
that can be done to improve firearm safety. For the gun oener and
those who live with them. Many kids are hurt with guns that their
parnts leave laying around. There are items to improve gun safety,
but the IRA stands against almost anything that might affect gun
ownership or their use.

Schools should use metal doors, and eliminate back packs. When
I was a child no school kid wore or carried back packs. I am sure
a rule like this would not meet with favor, but it would make it
harder to carry restricted items. Of course this wouldn't keep small
arms out, but if safety is a concern then tradoffs have to be made.

Like seat belts in cars, they aren't needed except in a wreck, but
it's for safety. The Public has to decide if they want guns then
measures need to be taken to protect people from those who
misuse them. At least within reason.

People like to point to the AR 15 simi automatic as a cause of
gun violence, but any simi automatic fire arm with a large
magazine can do the same. Large magazines do more to
harm people than the actual fire arm. So they would be
better advised to go after large magazines than the firearm.

.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 16, 2018, 12:53:15 pm
A new book will be out soon to tell more of the plans and
actions of President Trump. He had 100 executives orders ready
to sign, but many were so over the top he was convinced to set
most aside. One was going to raise tarifs on imported cars and other
products by 25%. Others to greatly limit travel from other countries.
It's likely his ideas though would be liked by extremists, but doing
so would have hurt his ability to get anything done.

Trump went into office thinking he could do anything, but soon found
out he had to work with others.  Something new to Trump as he was
used to being a boss who could get his way no matter what.

It appears the FBI dropped the ball or they may have been able to
have prevented the horrific shooting at the Florida school. A report
had been sent to a reporting site of the FBI about the young mans 
plans to kill people at his school. I wonder how many other tips they
are not taking seriously? This makes our FBI look rather bad. I hope
the political climate of Trumps calling out the FBI for doing inappropriate
actions didn't divert their attention. Seems to me someone at the FBI
didn't do their job.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 17, 2018, 01:04:12 pm
Well well, it seems the Russians did try to affect our election in
2016. 13 Russians were indicted by the special counsel with solid
evidence for doing just that. They best stay in the arms of
mother Russia or they may find them selves facing prosicution
here in the U.S.A.

President Trump claims this proves he had no involvement because
it started in 2014. uess he forgot that was right after he returned
from Russia after his beauty contest there. Perhaps he made a deal
with Putin to help him run for president. It's not likely we will know
for sure. There has to be a reason for Trumps protection of russians
interests other than just saying we would be better off with them as
friends. Putin is only friendly when he gets his way, and if Trump
doesn't understand that he is the fool Putin thinks he is. Trump
needs to put all the sanctions on Russia like Congress told him
to do.

It's now been reported that well over 100 people in the Trump
administration don't have permenant security clearance. Yet they
handle some of our deepest secrets. It apparently due to many of
Trumps picks are rich people who have ties around the world. This
exposes them to blackmail if they have deals or something
darker in their background. So far several of Trumps appointments
have shown how loose they are with tax payer money. The guy
he appointed for the eviromental agency has spent 10's of thousands
for first class plane tickes and for security people to protect him from
the public. He claims he was being bothered by the people who were
flying Coach. Appearnely asking embarrasing questions. Personally
I think these people whould have to show proof of danger to  their
person or family to get governlment protection.  It's likely due to
these rich people who are parinoid due to having a lot of money, and
feel they need body guards.

Trump wants to replace food relief for the poor with food delieeries
instead of giving them money. Talk about creating a huge government
agency. It would rival Amazon with warehouses and distribution
across the nation to hand out 18 million boxes of food every month.
It's much cheaper to send a check for the poor to buy food with. This
also helps the economey since these people go to grocery stores
and farmers markets to buy food.  Of course Trump and the GOP
point to the few people who spend their food money inapproperatly
as an excuse to do stupid things like this. With all the allergys
people have these days would the distribution centers know who
ccan't eat peanuts or bread?

The GOP and Trump are saying we need more mental help care, yet
they have been cutting billions form medicaid which helps pay for
such care. Seems the GOP and Trump have no connnection between
their brains and their mouth.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 18, 2018, 12:59:40 pm
President Trump went to his resort after paying his type of
respect for the school shooting. Then at his resort he went
to a disco party. Heaven forbid should anything get in his
way of his enjoyment. Not even the deaths of 17 at a
school.

He tweeted saying the FBI should quit their russia investigation
and find people planning to shoot Americans. Well the section
of the FBI investigating him isn't responsible for finding shooters.
they are investigating those who work to tear down our country.

He also tweeted that Putin was probably laughing after the indictment
of Russia for election interference. It's likely heads are rolling after
this exposure instead.

Trump only makes himself look bad with his tweets. He should
throw his smart phone in a drawer and leave it there. He should be
getting advice before making any statements. Instead he things he
is so smart he can do it all on his own.

Some GOP supporters are saying that down ballot votes shows Russias
activities had no effect. Well people don't vote the party line as they
did in 50 years ago. I think the Russians mainly want to discourage the
American public from believing in the FBI and other law enforcement. To
disrupt our economy. To divide us as they know division makes us weaker.

Again I ask why does Trump support and protect Russia? Why does he
attack everyone who speaks against him but Putins Russia? What is the
power he has over almost everyone who spends time with him? Highly
respected people follow his lead soon after working for him. Does he
threaten to ruin them if they don't? Perhaps the truth will come out
eventually. Hopefully sooner than later.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org






Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 20, 2018, 11:24:23 am
School kids across the nation are letting Trump and congress know
they are tired of the same old thing. They talk the talk, but never
walk the walk when it comes to gun safety legislation.

Trump and the GOP are calling for a bipartisan committee to look into
the issue. The young people best keep the pressure up because it's
likely the NRA is pressuring Trump and the GOP to stall. They and
the GOP know in most cases if they stall longenough the issue will
fade away. The NRA will likely spend what it takes to limit any and
all firearm legislation. This includes advertising to convince people
they should tell congress to go slow. Otherwise they may loose
their gun rights. Only time will tell.

This issue may cost the GOP and Trump some of their
support if they don't take it seriously. People care
about their kids more than most any other issue.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 21, 2018, 12:44:10 pm
Some in the White house commented they were pleased that
the school shotting diverted the news from the president and
the staff. Rather insensitive of them I think. I doubt if the
diversion lasts long. They earn all the bad press they get.

How long will Trumps supporters stand up for a man who seems
to care more about Russia than the U.S.A. and of course himself.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 22, 2018, 12:46:01 pm
Trump and the GOP are wanting to arm teachers and Armour plate
schools instead of some limited restrictions on gun sales to some
people or the mentally ill. They don't even like putting waiting period
to purchase a firearm. Sometimes if a person becomes angry they
want to harm others. Giving them a few days to cool off isn't a bad
idea. Those against theses laws fear it will lead to stronger gun laws.

A few changes to schools would help, like metal doors instead of
glass doors. Use solid concrete for school hallway walls with strong
doors to classrooms. This would make schools safer during
severe weather as well.

Well it didn't take the NRA long. this morning the CEO of the
NRA spoke out saying how much they had tried to get gun
safety laws passed, but Obama and the democrats stood in
the way. Well why haven't they worked to pass them since
Trump and the GOP took over the government. After all
they gave them millions to get them elected in 2016. So
I am sure when they say rabbit the GOP leaders ask how
high to hop.

I think the GOP wants to keep gun legislation undone
so when they run for office they campaign that they will
protect gun rights because the democrats won't. They
the same with immigration, because if they fixed it they
couldn't campaign saying the democrats won't protect the
country from bad aliens.

The GOP claim they are the only party that will protect
jobs. All the GOP wants is power and money like most
rich people do. So they work to cut taxes knowing the
democrats will have to raise taxes to keep the government
afloat. Then they can point and say we told you they only
want to raise taxes and give money to lazy people.  This
isn't new, but in the past there wre enough moderate to
keep either extreme from taking over.

Hopefully the younger generation will move more to the
political center. Many in the older white generation are afraid of
change, but as they die off change should take over. Hopefully the
Supreme court won't loose any judges this year allowing the
democrats a s chance to take over the senate. If the court goes
conservative many human rights may be lost. The supreme
court should be moderate, not conservative or liberal.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 23, 2018, 12:50:12 pm
President Trump spoke at the republican political action committee.
It was a campaign style speech where he talked about how he won
the election in 2016. Seems Trump can't let his past go. It was odd
they never showed the audience during the speech. Makes one wonder
how big the audience was. The cheers didn't sound that loud.

During Trumps campaign he claimed he would never put guns in schools.
Well just another  broken promise or was it a lie since he is pushing for it
now. Puting weapons in the hands of even trained teachers would put
them and their students in greater danger. During the chaos of a
shooting it would be difficult to see the shooter. Might work to protect
a classroom, but when firearms are available, random anger can
lead to someone being shot. It's likely innocent students could be
killed in a hallway firefight. It's likely fewer people would be killed
if the shooter was mobbed instead, of course that isn't going to
happen.

The special counsel continues to indict people who worked in
Trumps campaign. Mostly about money laundering and Tax
fraud so far. One can wonder what these people might say
about Trumps activities while they worked for him. It's likely
the special counsel will offer deals to those who offer
evidence of wrong doing by Trump and his campaign.

Trump calls anyone who accuses  him of wrong doing
a lier. It seems those around him learn to do the
same. Trump claimed he was going to hire the best
people. Well how come all these great people can't
get security clearance? Even Trumps son n law hasn't
received clearance. Even though Trump lets him see all
of our state secrets.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 24, 2018, 12:27:00 pm
Will Trump take the responsibility to give security clearance
to staff in the white house?  Or will  he continue to let 
unqualified see our state secrets?


It appeaser the pressure from young people is having some
effect on gun safety. Trump and the GOP are making noises
like they may increase the age requirement for the AR15, and
perhaps other simi automatic rifles.  A few big businesses across
the nation have pulled their support for the NRA. Time will tell if
this continues.

It's likely the GOP and Trump will try to please the NRA. So we
will likely see a few changes aimed to placate the public in the
short run. Those who wish to see more gun safety laws will
have to cocntinue letting their politicians know they will not
vote to keep them in office if they ignore them the need to
improve gun safety. Not to take guns from good people, but
to help keep them out of the hands of those wishing to harm
others.

We should remember the NRA supports the firearm industry,
not gun safety laws. The gun industry makes hundreds of
millions manufacturing firearms. A industry started to provide
weapons for the military. Now they sell them around the world.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 25, 2018, 12:21:07 pm
I tip my hat to the young people of this nation for standing
up to the GOP, NRA and the far right.

Hang in there kids, they are running scared.  If they weren't
they would be ignoring you.

The majority of the country is behind the kids, NOT the GOP
Trump and the NRA. NOT their far right racist plans. They even
invited a french extremist supporter of National socialism to
 the CPAC  republican convention, and cheered. I wonder
how many knew they were cheering for a Nazi.

Don't listen to those who claim the government is out to take
your guns. If the government actually tried that there would
be another civil war. This message is a scare tactic to gain
public support. The CEO felt he had to tell his audience he
wasn't calling for an armed revolt. Did he think his speech
was so dark he had to say it? You can be sure he wouldn't
want anyone to think he did.

The president released the democrat memo after blacking out
the embarrassing stuff. Claiming he was protecting sensitive
material. It likely had less than the GOP version which had
nothing blacked out.

It's time our unpresident Trump got up and put his golf bag
away and work to bring the people together. It's time for
him to act like a real president, and not a fake one.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 26, 2018, 12:53:43 pm
President Trump talks and repeats all he plans to do, but most if
not all is just talk. If his voters start fussing at him he will forget
all he said.

Time will tell, but I doubt if much is done to aid gun safety till after
the 1018 election cycle. Then only if the GOP is punished for their
lack of concern for the majority of the people in our country.

Three deputies stood outside the school in florida while the shooting
was going on. I can't really say what they  did was wrong, because I
don't know how they were instructed to respond. Though it seems
any law enforcement officer would have tried to do something. To at
distract the shooter so others would have a chance to escape without
being shot. This is being investigated, so maybe we will find out why.

Congress has returned after one of their several vacations this year. Seems
our law makers are more concerned with being off than doing their job. We
can hope they don't get so tired they leave again before getting anything
anything done.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 28, 2018, 12:32:58 pm
President Trump said he would have went in to stop the school shooter
in Florida. He called the deputies cowards, but I think Trump would
have ran alright. The other way to hide. Trump avoided the draft
claiming foot trouble, but yet he plays golf.

Reports are the chief of staff in the white house is now inforcing
security clearances now. Makes one wonder why it took them so
long to do that. Most of Trumps great people can't pass security
checks due to their out of country activities. Big money often
creates big problems. Many rich people think they are better than
the average person is anyway. One of Trumps cabenet spent over 30,000
in tax dollars for a dining room set for his office.

We don't need people in government who have such disregard for
the tax payer. They work hard for their money. We need people who
respect the office they hold, not take it for granted.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 01, 2018, 12:17:19 pm
President Trump is starting a trade war with these tarrifs.
Trump actions has already cost the U.S.A trade deals in
the far east. Adding to Chinas economic growth and our
decline. Even Trumps tax bill encouraged businesses to
locate outside the country.

These tarrifs will work against cooperation with countries
we need dealing with other countries. Trumps shortsighted
actions will cost us thousands for the items we need.

President Trump had a meeting about gun safety and
control. He appeared to be for good background checks
and limiting gun sales to age 21 and older. I imagine he
will try to pass the buck when his voters start holding
his feet to the fire. After all he was a big gun supporter
when he was running for office.

Personally I think if they are going to limit gun sales, it
should be for simi automatics with magazines. Rifles
with bolt or lever action could be sold to 18 year olds
single shot or bolt action .22 caliber could be sold to
16 year olds. Perhaps even 410 shot guns. Gun
safety training should always be required no matter
the age. No matter how it ends up people who want
guns will have them.

Many young people enjoy the sport of target shooting or
hunting. So some arrangement should be made to accommodate
them. Parents who like to hunt will buy guns for their kids
anyway.

High capacity simi automatics are mostly adult toys, they
have no place in sport hunting, or even target shooting. 
They are weapons of war. There are many people who feel
they need such weapons for defense if the country goes nuts.
Well they better have more than a AR15 in their closet.
They better have a lot of ammunition and a fortified home.
One man with a AR15 isn't going to stop masses of scared
people looking to loot items for survival. They will shoot
back too.

If you think you can take on law enforcement forget it.
You will loose unless you have a massive fully equiped
army. Even then you would spend the rest of your life
holding out. Look at N Korea.

How many people will be fired from the White House?
Already over 2 dozen have left over the past year or
so. Trump seems to think if your not rich your a looser
so he continues hiring rich people who have issues with
foreign countries and money. Billionaires tend to be
money grubbers as well.

Putin was bragging to his countrymen about how strong
Russia is. We know most if not all of their ideas trying
to get ahead of the U.S.A. We have been working on
cruise missile defense for many years.Also missile interceptors
can be tipped with nukes. A incoming missile isn't likely to
survive a million degree fireball, much less the shockwave. 
Nothing is  perfect but its likely aren't as vulnerable as Putin
said. the people of Russia should be worried more about Putin
than the U.S.A.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 02, 2018, 01:01:08 pm
President Trump wants to run the country by decree. No one
person is smart enough to run a country of over 300 million
alone. His claims a trade war is good and easy to win shows
how ignorant Trump is. History has shown tariffs cause more
problems in the long run. All quick fixes rarely fix any thing
with a multi trillion dollar economy.

This is why the stock market is going down. Investors don't
like trade wars. If Trump follows through with it we could have
a world economic depression with the U.S.A. at the bottom of
the hole. I don't think protecting one or two industries is worth
the risk of causing a trade war which would hurt many businesses
across  the nation, much less the world.

Russias Putins speech about his advanced weapons doesn't  really
change the balance of power. If Putin launches nukes at us, he
will bring destruction on Russia as well. Putin stated that Russia
would consider an attack on it's friends as an attack on Russia. I
wonder if this is a not so veiled warning to not attack N. Korea who
Russia supports. It's the support of N. Korea by China and Russia
over the years that has kept N. Korea from failing. N. Korea is just
a pawn in their desire to keep democracy from taking hold and
rejoining the country of Korea.

Trump still refuses to make any complaints against Putin, no
matter what he says or does. What is it that Putin holds
over Trump? After all Trump is willing to complain to almost
all other world leaders. Trump just claims he wants to
get along with Putin.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 05, 2018, 12:51:58 pm
President Trump is apparently guilty of giving favors for money. His
son n law and daughter stand to be driven into bankruptcy if they can 't
make a balloon payment of over a billion dollars next january. So he
with Trumps help has been  meeting leaders and bankers around the
world trying to raise the money. Kind of odd really. Trump says he has
over nine billion, why doesn't he cover the payment for his son n law?

It'd likely Trump ran for president as a  way to raise money for himself
and family. I don't think he expected to win. This is one reason he had
little or no plans ready to take office. The first thing he tried to do is
remove all sanctions from Russia. From the time he started running for
office he has treated Putin with kid gloves. Is it due to  money or
something else? It's well known no American owned bank will loan the
Trumps money.

The only reason Trump hasn't been impeached is due to the GOP's lack of
any backbone to do the job. They are scared of loosing their jobs by making
Trumps supporters mad. They should be concerned about the country not their
jobs. The Trump ministration is more like a gang of thieves than people who
want to make the country great again. This may be why they are trying to
hide from the truth by lieing and calling most news fake.

Trump promised to give all Americans good health coverage, instead he and the
GOP have done little or noting to cut heatlh care costs. Medicare is the most cost
efficient method out there, but the GOP doesn't want to move to a single payer
system that would do much to curb health care costs than the current
insurance plans most working people get with their jobs.  Single payer
isn't the only way. There are several ways to guarantee health care for
all. Another way is to put all insurance companies into a group so they
could work with health care providers to keep prices from climbing so
fast. Medicare won't allow a hospital to charge 200 dollars for a
five dollar pill, but there isn't anything to keep them from charging
insurance companies that much. If this was changed it would help
reduce overcharging by health care providers.

The GOP claim they want free market plans. Well people can't pick
and choose when they get sick or are hurt in a accident. So free
markets just don't work with health care. Let's negotiate the best
deals we can for the Americans, not just let them charge anything
they want for care and medicine.





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 07, 2018, 01:05:08 pm
President Trump has had the largest turnover in staff of any president in recent
history. Trump claimed he was going to hire the greatest people to work in this
administration. So why is he having so much trouble keeping people? This so called
great people can't even get security clearances.

I think it shows Trump only wants to hire his friends and not people who can do a
great job. Where are all those great people he promisted to hire? There isn't any
thing wrong with hiring friends, but they need to know what they are doing. Most
of his are mainly interested in making a lot of money instead of making the
country better for us all.Trump for office saying he wanted to make the country
great again, but it seems he is only wanting to fatten his bank account.

Seems people think Trump is the same man they saw on Trumps so called
reality show the Apprentice.  Well that man was a fantasy character, not
Trump. He is a poor business man who takes advantage of others to enrich
himself. A conman who thinks anyone who is down and out is a looser. I fear
most of his supporters will have to learn that the hard way. As most of his
victims have in the past.

Hopefully he doesn't start a war that could end us all.

The atterney general is going after cities who aren't helping the feds find
illeagal immigrants. The police in these cities know if they report immigrants
they won't help them find criminals. They will be afraid the police will turn
them into the feds.

By the way the Trump administration has decided it's okay for some people to
bring elephant tusks and other parts back from Africa. Trump had said he
wouldn't permit this, but apparnntly changed his mind. His son is a big game
hunter, so it's possible he got daddy Trump to fix it for him.  I get the feeling
Trump and family are the type that think animals just exist for the benifit of
man, and nothing else.

Some people seem to think the democrats want to take their guns. Well if this
was the case they could have done it many years ago. They only want to make
the ownership of gun safer for us all. Not take them away. from law oh biding
citizens. Personally I think it's more about the GOP protecting those who
manufacture guns. Not the peoples right to own them.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 08, 2018, 01:13:22 pm
Happy Women's day to all our female members.


President Trump continues to lie, he is over 3000 since takeing
office.  Today he was taking credit for  gun law changes that
were more likely due to student protests accross the country.

His sexual activities with a porn star some dozen years ago are
still in the news. If proven the payment some 10 days before the 2016
election could be a violation of campaign finance laws. Not only did it
exceed the amount allowed, it wasn't  duly reported.

Trump has been talking to witnesses that the special counsel has talked
to. This is improper as it gives the appearance of witness tampering. Just
one more problem Trump is bringing on himself.

Trump has used his money to get him out of legal troubles for most
of his adult life. He may find his money won't help save him this time
around, or his family.

Some people think Trump is a super business man. Well I think most
anyone could do well with a 20 million dollar head start. The old saying
money makes money is true. Trump is far from super in business with
4 bankruptcies in his background. Now he wants to start a trade war
instead of working hard to improve trade with other countries. His
bullying tactics aren't likely to work with other countries. Already his
tactics are hurting us in the world market place.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 09, 2018, 12:58:21 pm
President Trump has accepted a meeting with the leader of N Korea.
We can hope Trump uses his brain more than his mouth when he does
meet with the N. Korean leader. Trump has a bad habit of speaking first
then thinking later, then tries to back up knowing he made a mistake.
This might work with business  or even with his GOP friends, but I
doubt if the N Korean leader will want to wait to see what Trump
does instead of what he says. Deals with paranoid leaders can't be
changed without causing even more paranoia, or more  mistrust.
Also Trump is vulnerable when his ego is being fed. I am sure the
N Korean leader will play up to Trumps ego expecting this
to gain him an advantage.

The leader of N Korea wants to be seen as a world leader. He will
be concerned that we the U.S. will have his construction in mind. We
have a record of doing that very thing to Iraq.

GOP hasn't done much if anything about gun safety. I imagine it will
take a change in congress to make any changes. Perhaps even a
new president.

Trump is playing the tariff game. How much damage it does to trade
won't be known for a while. If it does cause a trade war , the world could
be in for an economic downturn. Even a world wide depression.

Only time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 11, 2018, 11:48:28 am
 President Trump was in full campaign mode for himself during a ralley that
was intednded to help a man running for U.S. representative. Trump has
a bad habit of having ralleys for others in the GOP, but ends up bragging
about himself. The one he is suppsed to be helping is barely mentioned.

Trump even claimed credit for a successful Olympics in South Korea. Trump
will say anything to get a cheer from the crowds that go to his ralleys. I think
most go to them for the entertainment. There isn't much of a reason otherwise.
Trump just stands there bragging on himself and running down those who
don't agree with his excuses for being president. To hear Trump talk he is
the greatest  thing since sliced bread.

It would be interesting to know how many people make a point to go to
all his rallies  even if they have to travel over 2000 miles.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 12, 2018, 11:26:11 am
Is President Trump following the NRA or the will of the people? He is already
saying there isn't much desire by the public to change age requirements. Congress
is talking a little, but I doubt if any thing is voted on during an election year. It will
likely take a party change to have any real legislation on gun safety.

Trumps Education secretary is running down public schools for not preforming
well. I wonder if it has anything to do with her business of creating charter schools
for kids of wealthier families has anything to do with it. She has made many millions
of dollars this way. Seems like another one of Trumps rich friends to me. People
are more interested in money and power than anything else. Her Charter schools
are doing no better depite her claims.

Is President Trump being played for a fool by the N Korean leader? Who can
say. It seems to me all this change is a bit too good to be true. I hope the
president and his men are checking to see if all the "I's" are dotted and "T's"
are crossed before they sign on to any deal. 

The leaders over the past 70+ years have only had one ambition and that to
take over the whole Korean peninsula. Now they suddenly want to make
peace, even to not complain about the military exorcises that have been
a point of contention since the cease fire 70 years ago. Perhaps the N Korean
leader feels his nukes give him a stick he can hold over Trump to get what
he wants with this meeting. It will give him a lot of prestige standing
with Trump. I wonder if Putin has told the N. Korean leader he should off
Trump a carrot to get what he wants.

No matter what the reason is I hope this nucular threat can be delt with. We
could be looking at Iran playing the nucular card nest. 

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 13, 2018, 03:25:10 pm
President Trump again shows how big a coward he is. Firing his
secretary of state via Twitter is a low blow. Though this man was
poorly qualified to be secretary of state, he wouldn't lie for Trump,
or make excuses for him. So it's not too surprising that Trump let
him go. He at least realized to work with other countries you have
to be honest with them. Something Trump doesn't seem to understand.

It seems anyone who works for Trump has to lie for him. It's no wonder
why so many people have left after working in the Trump administration
over the past 14 months. Over 40 so far. I think Trump is finding out that
many people don't share his idea of putting him above the constitution
and or the law.

After a week Trump finally speaks about the apparent attack on
British soil by Russia. An attempt to kill an ex spy staying in
Britain. This attack put many British citizens at risk as well.
As usual Putin deny's that Russia had any part in it. Though
a close ally of the U.S.A. Trump seems to not support the
British claim. How far will Trump go to with his excuses for
Russia. Even after a large group of Russian mercenaries attacked
a U.S. military base in Syria. Without air support it's likely
many of our soldiers would have been killed. As is the attackers
were mostly killed. Trump has yet to mention it, and Putin hasn't
either.

The GOP in the House of Representatives has decided Trump had
no collusion with Russia. Or anything illegal apparently. Seems
they are more interested in  protecting Trump than the country,
the constitution, and the law. They decided this without telling
the democrats who were asking to interview more people, and
to get emails and other records from the white house. The GOP
are cliaming they have better things to do even thought they
are still investigating H. Clinton. Wasting millions of tax dollars
on a political vendetta.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 14, 2018, 11:41:01 am
President Trump was out in California inspecting wall samples when he should
have been in Washington DC to see school kids marching for gun safety. Makes
me wonder if that was his plan. Because he is sucking up to the NRA after his
promises to do what's right. Just another one of his lies most likely.

Congress best walk the walk instead of just talking. I think these kids plan to
keep the heat on through the mid term election and beyond. If they don't not
much will ever happen. I think we should be proud of our young people for
standing up to big business, and their political puppets.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 15, 2018, 12:05:21 pm
President Trump was recorded being disrespectful to Canda. He tried
to say it was just him joking in campaign mode. Seems  every time
Trump is caught doing something stupid or bad he claims it was just
him joking. I think we can be sure if it hadn't been recorded he would
have called it fake news. He doesn't seem to understand as president
everything he says is taken seriously.

Sanctions apparently will be added to Russia over the attempted killing
of an ex spy in Britian. President Trump is letting others do the job, and
has said little against Russia directly, but it is more than Trump usually
does when it comes to Russia.

It is reported that Trump is trying to make a better deal with Canada
and Mexico by telling them he won't apply Trade Tariffs against them
if they play ball, so to speak. Using threats against our closest trading
partners makes us look bad, not smart.

Trump continues to add loyal rich frends to his staff. Not people who
want to follow the constitution, but Trump himself. Many of them use
tax dollars for their own benifit untill the news media catches them. How
long will Trumps supporters stay indifferent to Trumps games. Even though
they end up costing the government millions.

The GOP and Trump are trying to say their loss in Pennsylvania was to a
democrat who acted like a republican. Trump tried to say the man followed
his on campaign style. Both this and the GOP claim is nonsense as the man
campaigned as a lef leaning moderate who supports unions, and universal
health care.. Ideas the GOP leaders are totally against.

Trump continues to appoint people who are tied to the federalist society.
A conservative body who feels the constitution should be followed as
written, and no allowances for changes in society. Also to follow the
text of laws even though they may have been written over a century
ago. Society changes over time, and should be considered when making
judgments. We should have judges who are human in their thinking,
not like a computer who cares nothing for humanity. The whole reason
for having judges is to add the human factor, not to be a puppet for
the state.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 16, 2018, 12:25:29 pm
President Trump is changing his staff. Saying they have been wasting
money. Well he knows what kind of people they were when he appointed
them. I think he is only mad because they were caught.

Trump is wanting a law that gives the death penalty for drug dealers. Other
countries have these laws. We need to see if they have any effect before trying
the same thing. Besides it takes almost 20 years of legal wrangling to put the
condemned to death.  I would be more in favor of hard labor sentences.

Trump still claims we have a trade deficit with Canada, but he isn't including
services we provide to them. This gives us a trade surplus with Canada. When
figuring Trade it has to include services along with products.

There are reports that Russian hackers have have gotten into our power plants
and other infrastructure. Now I am not a IT professional, but it seems to me a
hacker shouldn't have any access to power plants in the first place. They should
be in the control room of the power plant to have any access to it's
control. If it can be access via the internet then we have fools running our
infrastructure. If remote control is needed they should use closed networks
that cannot communicate with the internet. They can use private lines that
require coded access that calls back requiring a coded response. Then only
allow 3 tries before having to  wait hours to try again. Mistakes should
 set off an alert to possible tampering. Yes this would be a pain to deal
with, but easy to use is easy to misuse.





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 17, 2018, 12:02:55 pm
A late night firing by the Attorney General. Was it at the call of President Trump
or due to misconduct. I think firing someone 2 days prior to their retirement
stinks of witness tampering and continue a coverup by the President. There
was no rush to do this firing. I am sure there are many people who have
retired from public service who don't deserve their pension, but this man has
spent 20 years of good work in the FBI and deserves his pension if anyone
does.

The sanctions Trump placed on Russia this last week only affected the hackers
who were indicted  by the Special counsel and one minor oligarch.  So this
action by Trump did very little to punish Russia. It's likely Putin had a good
laugh when he heard about it.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 18, 2018, 11:56:03 am
The religious right continues to stand behind President Trump. These
are the same people who advocated killing doctors who did abortions, and
bombed clinics as well. So it's no wonder why they would support a man
who claims to stop abortions. No matter what his morals are.

The GOP continues to look the other way when Trump fails to do his job, and
won't create a special commission to investigate Trump and his people. Even
though they know they will likely loose power in the 2018 election. Are they
so afraid of Trump? During two  elections he has failed to help a man win
a seat in the house and in the senate. It seems to  me their support is
doing more harm to the republican party than doing their job of holding
iTrump accountable for his irresponsible and impeachable actions.

When will the GOP stand up for the country instead of doing all they can to
keep power? They give welfare to the rich, and deny aid to the poor. All in
the false claim of creating jobs.

Trump only wants people around him that agree with him. Only people who
will lie for him. Only people who will sign a loyalty oath with him as
if he was a dictator, instead of president.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 21, 2018, 01:14:53 pm
President Trump continues to support Russia's Putin even by
congratulating him for winning an election rigged by him and
his supporters.

Trump wants us to believe he has nothing to do with Russia,
yet he supports Putin at every turn. This action by Trump
just adds to the suspicion that Trump owes Putin something,
or is he afraid Putin will reveal something illegal he is
guilty of. Of course it may only be Trump is hoping if he
helps Putin he will let him do business in Russia after he
leaves office. If this is Trumps plan I think he is fooling him
self. Putin like Trump only thinks of himself and no one else.

Even the GOP are saying Trump shouldn't have congratulated
Putin over a rigged election. Putins actions of attacking people
in England makes Putin a criminal, and Trump shouldn't be
cozying up to him.

I wonder how many women will have to sue Trump before the
truth is known. Trump has spent most of his adult life buying his
way out of trouble. Being president may put a stop to it. Breaking
federal laws as president isn't the same as dealing with law suits.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 22, 2018, 01:11:29 pm
Will president Trump start a trade war with China? If he does
soybean farmers will likely get a hit as they sell much of their
crop to China. Also much of what we buy from China will go
up in price. This will hurt people who depend of low cost products
made in China. Much of what people buy is made in the far east.

Will this action help or hurt Trump. Only time will tell.
China has promised retaliation to tariffs. Trump just
put a 50 billion dollar tariff on goods from China.
Now to see what China does.

GOP Congress is voting for a budget that will likely up our national
debt by over a Trillion dollars. If this bothers you then blame the
GOP for their Trillion dollar tax cut they passed last December. A cut
that was meant to save the rich money instead of helping the
economy. Now some of the GOP are saying the budget should
cuts to entitlement programs like medicaid  and other programs
that help the poor and elderly.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 24, 2018, 12:14:37 pm
100's of thousands of young people are in Washington DC today to let our
politicians know they are tired of  weak gun laws. Where is our president?
He is playing golf at his resort in Florida. Shows how much Trump cares
about it. He is more interested in how much money the NRA  will give him
for his 2020 re election  bid.

One wonders why congress left so fast after the budget vote Friday.
Could it be they didn't want to face questions from future voters?
Hopefully the young people will continue to work through the rest of the
year and beyond. I am sure the politicians feel it will fade after a few
months. Movements like this often do as it's hard to keep many people
interested enough to work for a tough goal.

I am hoping this movement grows. We need to get other
important changes made. Especially how we elect our politicians
The way it is it costs so much to run for the senate or the house of
representatives. Few people who really want to make our
government better can afford to run. Instead the rich and
powerful who have the money end up in our legislatures. To
even attempt to run people have to grub at the feet of those
with money to even have a chance to win. Doing so they have
to promise they won't pass laws that will cost them money.

Congress could change campaign finace laws, but they don't
want to make it easier for the average person to run for office.
They want to keep the government in the hands of the rich
and powerful. This way they can limit regulations and taxes
that would cost them and big business a lot of money.

It's this that has kept gun laws weak so the gun industry can
make billions in profits. This is just one of many things the rich
want to control at the expense of us all.


 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 27, 2018, 12:07:08 pm
Trump and the GOP are up to their dirty tricks again. Now they are wanting
to require people when they respond to census forms to check that they are
a citizen. The GOP knows that people don't always fill forms out as they
should or even return them. Often census takers don't come around to verify
due to cost cutting. They also know people of color and minorities  tend to
be suspicious and or paranoid of  the government, and may  not want to
fill out the form as they should.

This could reduce the number of representatives a state has in areas where
people of color live. People who usually don't vote for republicans. If the number
of citizenry is reduced by an improper census count. A state could could loose
one or more representatives. This could shift power across the country. 

Trump has claimed ever since he lost the popular vote that it was due to
non citizen votes. So now he seems to think this will secure his and GOP
re-election in the future. The GOP has a record of removing the rights
of voters across the nation. They seem to think it's the only way they
can win.

This will likely end up in the supreme court. Another reason the GOP wants
court judges that favor their conservative ideas.

President Trump is keeping his mouth shut, at least publicly over his connection
with the porn star. Apparently to prevent her lawyer from suing him if he lies
about her. We know Trump can't hardly open his mouth without telling a lie.

Trump is having a hard time getting a really good lawyer. Apparently they
don't want to get mixed up in Trumps mess of his own making. Or it could
be they don't trust Trump to pay them.

Also Trump is asking people to come back and work in the White House.
Apparently because he can't find anyone who wants to join Trumps mess,
and possibly end up in jail or end up with a bad reputation.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 28, 2018, 12:50:56 pm
President Trump promised Mexico would pay for a wall along our boarder
with them. So far Trump has hit a stone wall on that.

Now Trump is hinting that the Military
 might be used to build it. Well several
years ago the National Guard was used to build a fence that took 2 years
to build it 30 miles long. At that rate it would take decades to build a wall
along the border with Mexico.

Our hard working soldiers only got a 2.5 % raise with this last budget. Trump
claims the military has lots of money, then why such a small raide in pay?

I think Trump should start a build the wall fund rasing campaign to pay
for his wall. That should show him how much people want it. Perhaps
he might get a Centavo or  two from south of the border.  :D

President Trump still is oddly quiet about his conection with the Porn
star. So far she and Putin are the only two people Trump hasn't spoke
out against. Makes on wonder why. It would be interesting if Trump had
forced her to have an abortion. That is just a conspiracy theory though.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 29, 2018, 11:40:37 am
The meeting between President Trump and the leader of N Korea
is set for april 28.  The N Korean leader claims he will give up his
nukes if Trump meets his demands. He is talking like he wants to
make peace. Only Time will tell.

If Trump manages to get N Korea to give up their nukes, my hat is
off to him. It's possible Trump and the leader of China are working
together to get this done.

Not only would this be a big feather in Trumps hat it would make
the world a safer place. If Trump blows it and starts a war he gets
all the credit for that too.

Trump appoints the white house doctor to run the VA. He appears to
be a fine doctor, but has little or not administrative experience. The
VA is a 200 billion dollar government operation. Not only does the
head of the VA have to administer over 300,000 people that care
for veterans, he has to work with congress to keep the VA working
well. He has to deal with members of congress who want to keep
outdated facilities only for political reasons instead of improving
the care veterans need.

It's doubtful a doctor who has little political experience or
administrative experience will be up to the job, much less do the job.
His news conferecne about Trumps health shows he is a yes man for
Trump. I think Trump likes having military men working for him because
they have to do what the commander in chief (Trump) tells them. The
GOP will likely approve him. We know they are afraid to oppose Trump
on anything.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 30, 2018, 11:59:35 am
One might wonder why  Russia is working on missiles that
can't be shot down.  China too I understand. All this does is
assure mutual distruction for all.

I never could understand why world leaders want to exist in a
world that is radioactive and filled with rubble. Do they really
think they can be emperors over a dead planet? Seems to me
it would be better to just enjoy life as a billionaire. There would
be much more to enjoy. After a nuke war they will have to live
underground with not much variety in their life.

It would seem the world would do better working together for the
common good, not to destroy it. Power comes and goes no matter
who controls it. I fear human greed and lust for power will bring
an end to us all.

I have a new conspiracy theory. Could it be Putin is creating all
this brinksmanship for Trumps benifit? It's likely for Putins own
good as his popularity isn't near as good as he claims. In a fair
election he would have likely lost by a large margin.

The response by young people over gun control is giving the
far right a big headache.  They don't really know how to fight
kids who are very savy with the internet. The other day a commentator
on Fox called a young man a wining kid. This lost Fox several
advertisers. This likely caused some consternation in high places.

Keep up the good work kids.


President Trump is continuing to bad mouth Amazon. It's likely
due to the fact the company owns a large newspaper that gives
Trump some headaches. Trump tries to say they don't pay taxes
and cost jobs.  Truthis they collect sales tax for 45 states, and
have created many more jobs thant have been lost due to their
compit8iton with brick and  mortor stores. Also Trump claimed
they were taking advantage of the US postal system. In fact
Amazons shipments by the postal service has helped the
post office to be more profitable. I think there is some
envy by Trump as the owner of Amazon is forth many
times more money than Trump has. That after only about
20 years. Trump has been working at it for 50 years. Does
that make Trump a looser? could be..

I really doubt many people stop buying from Amazon because
Trump doesn't like the company.

Trump during his campaign claimed he would reduce the number
of lobbyists in Washington DC. In fact  the number is growing and
many are used by Trumps people.

Trump claims the democrats want to do away with the second amendment.
tThis is just another one of Trumps many lies.

Trump claims to be a tough guy, but he hasn't go the nerve to face
someone when he fires them. His toughness is limited to having
others do his dirty work, or to call people names and fire people
using twitter. I actually think he fears personal confrontations.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 31, 2018, 12:44:18 pm
President Trump is out playing golf again. He bad mouthed
Obama for playing golf so much. Yet Trump has spent more
time on the golf course in 14 months that Obama did during
his whole time as president.

Trumps justest department is ignoring police shootings of  blacks
and  other people of color. Even though many of these shootings
smell of racial bias the justest department doesn't want to get involved
with them. Our federal government is supposed to investigate civil
rights abuses when local governments don't. How will people
civil rights be protecte otherwise?

Trump and the GOP want to be re elected but they continue to ignore
the majority of the peoples needs and wants. Time will tell if the voters
decide to re elect them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 01, 2018, 11:43:54 am
It's difficult to wish us all a Happy Easter with all
the troubles Trump and the GOP have created. The
GOP support a president who treats the constitution
like a dirty rag., and ignores the law. His disrespect
for others brings shame on the office of president.

Trump wants to leave the defeat of Isis undone in
Syria to the Curds with plans to pull our troops out.
The Curds are under attack from Turkey. So how can
they continue the fight with Isis? Also Russian troops are
ready to move in when we leave.  Putin wants to use
Syria as a warm water base for their military. Russia has
vetoed all tries by the United nations to protect Syrian
refugees from merciless Syrian attacks on civilians.
There are reports that Russia is directly responsible for
the massacre of the Syrian people. I doubt if the Russian
people are made aware of the truth.

I think the main reason Trump wants to pull out is because
the Turkish leader wants to push the Curds out, and we are
in their way. Trump wants to please the Turkish leader ,
because he stands to loose millions if Trurkey takes over
Trumps properties he owns there. This is one big reason why
we had no business electing a man who has property at risk
around the world. 

Isis will return if we don't see to their total destruction.Trump
will likely claim he is pulling the troops out as a campaign
promise. This move will likely end up with Russia, and Iran
running the middle east. Perhaps to be used as an excuse to
attack Iran.

Trump is still pushing to remove the Doca kids. Making claims
that other immigrants are trying to use it to gain enterence to the
country. This is a lie as new immigrants  aren't elible. These kids
are a boost to our economy, but Trump is trying tu use them to
gain favor from his far right base.

Trumps lawyers don't want him to have an interview with the
special counsel because he will likely lie or make an ignorant
claim. If this is the case shouldn't Trump be removed from
office?  Seems this person either lies or even worse isn't aware
he  is lieing. Reports show he is unable to stay on track when
speaking to his cabinet or any group. Something that most
kids could do a better job of. Seems to me this shows he suffers
from a mental defect, and has no business running our country.
How can he be anything but a danger to us all as president?


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 02, 2018, 12:04:32 pm
Teachers in several states are pressing for better pay and schools for
our kids. I wonder how they feel about Trumps department of education
push to privatize schools across the nation? I really doubt this
will improve pay or schools. Many people would find it impossible to
pay the costs of sending their kids to provate schools.

President Trump continues trying to blaim Amazon for problems our
postal system has. Amazon is helping not hurting the post office. The
post office is hurting due to a law that requires them to cover costs
due to covering pensions that the government was supposed to do.
This was set up by the GOP trying to privatize the postal system.

Also the post office used to deliver millions of first class letters. With
the internet people use email, and other network ways for people
to communicate with friends and family. This costs the post office
more than anything else. At one time the idea was floated to charge
for emails, but it didn't go any where. It might have worked if they
had started it at the beginning, but not now.

Trump can't make a speech without bragging or campaigning. Even at
the white house Easter egg roll he did it again.

I think Trump is making all thes lies to get the major media off his
connection to the porn star, and legal troubles with it. Trump seems
to think Fox news has all the right answers. He even hires people
who have been on the Fox network. It's a shame so many of his
supporters are led down the garden path by Fox (fake) news.


Conservative media is working to cover most major outlets trying to
convince people in small markets to gain favor. So it's likely your
local news will lean toward the GOP and Trump. Not so much lies, but
less coverage of real facts.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 04, 2018, 12:06:21 pm
The battle has been joined. China just upped Trumps tarrif war
by 50 Billion dollars. This will affect many people who voted for
President Trump. So I wonder how many of them are still feeling
good about Trump.

Trump pulled us out of the far east trade agreement. The USA had
much more leverage with it than using tariffs to correct trade
imbalances. 90% of consumers live in other countries, so we
should work to sell more goods to correct trade problems.

So far the tariff issues with China and other countries is small,
but it could escalate into a full trade war. That mightlead to world
wide depression.

Trump tries to fix problems using quick fixes which in most cases
backfire by hurting us more than others. China has a lot more
money than we do. Infact they own hundreds of billions in Treasury
bonds. If they started selling them it would weaken the  dollar. This
would hurt our economy. They won't likely do this as the value of
those bonds would fall. We can all thank Trump for price increases
caused by his great easy to win tariff ideas..

Trump is sending thousands of troops to the border with Mexico. This with
the lowest number of people on the Mexican side of the border in 40 years.
and falling. Also our military man power is small, and the last budget didn't
allow for more. So where is Trump going to pull troops from? National
guard troops are owned by the state they are from, so the govenors will have
to support it. Also this will require a lot of added infrastructure to feed and house
thosusands of men and women. All this because Trump wants a pat on his head
for his work to stop illegal immigration at the border with Mexico. Yet Trump
cares little if anything about the illegal immigration from the far east.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 05, 2018, 11:59:53 am
Dem
It's possible the democrats will take the house of representative this
fall.  The senate will be harder isince most members up for re election
are in states who voted for Trump. Only time will tell. I think the
democrats should point out the excesses of the Trump administration
and how the GOP has ignored it. Talking about Trumps morality won't
help much as most knew how he treats women when they elected him.

Trump said he was going to drain the swamp by limiting lobbying and
government waste. But so far the swamp has grown and would likely
be spilling out of the white house door if it was a real swamp. Seems
Trump and his lackeys feel the tax payers should maintain their high
priced lifestyle.. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump had a gold seat on
his white house toilet. I understand he had one in Trump Tower.
Those he has appointed have been spending tax money like water.
Trump has spent well over a 100 million in taxes for his trips to
Florida to play golf.  I think he should be ashamed, but he appears
to think he deserves it.

People apparently forget that elected officials are public servants. They
like those who serve in the military serve the country. The job isn't
meant to  make them rich or maintain their lifestyle. This why I feel
we need campaign reform. To allow the average person a realistic
chance to run for government office. As is those in congress spend
much of their time raising money to get re elected. They have the
power to set limits on spending to get elected. But I think they want
to keep the richest people in power and control of our country. It's
these kind of people who think government service is a way to enrich
them selves instead of serving the people.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 06, 2018, 12:02:39 pm
President Trump continues to add tariffs on China. Another
100 Billion dollars worth. China calls it a trade war. I think
this is a bad time to be making extra waves with China when
we need their cooperation to deal with N Korea.

Trump is lieing about the trade deficit with China apparently
trying to justify his actions. Makes one wonder who Trump is
listening to. We have some people with strange economic
ideas. Trickle down economics for one.

These brute force ideas Trump is pushing won't likely end up
with anything but higher costs for Americans. If it drives the
value of the dollar down it will be even worse for thos at the
lower end of society. China can buy some of the same products
from other parts of the world. Then what will happen to jobs and
farm markets in the USA. Trump and many of his friends are very
rich, so they can get along even if buying power tanks for the
average family. 

A lot of what we buy comes from the far east and China, so
get ready to spend more money this fall. 

Trump claimed he didn't know anything about the payment
or agreement made to the porn star just before the 2016
election. Yet he is still trying to sue her for something he
says he has no  knowledge of. Seems rather odd to me. Could
it be Trump tells his lawyer "I don't want to know. Just take
care of it." Trump said he didn't have a slush fund for his
lawyer to use, but since Trump lies constantly, who can say? 

Trump claims immigrants are rapists, but there isn't much
evidence of this. Most immigrants are running away from
such things.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 07, 2018, 12:06:16 pm
President Trump is driving the GOP crazy with his actions,
like tariffs, and cabinet members spending money
inappropriately. Yet they still won't hold Trump accountable
for anything. The GOP is sweating the 2018 mid term, but
if they loose control of congress it will be their own doing.

The special counsels report about Trump and his campaign
will likely never see the light of day if the GOP has anything
to say about it. Hopefully the democrats will take power so
they can force it's release. Only time will tell.

It's possible Trump will replace the atterney general to get
rid of the special counsel,. Trump may think this will put an
end to  the investgation, but he is mistaken. It will continue.
Trump has used his money in the past to deal with legal issues
but this time his money won't likely help much.

It appears there are about 4000 national guard troops]
headed for the Mexican boarder. Are we planning an
invasion? Of course not, the troops are apparently there
to watch immigrants cross the boarder. They can't shoot
or even detain them legally. So about all they can do is
report to the boarder patrol "Hey we have some bogies here."

Why not just fly some drones along the boarder to watch
for boarder crossings? They could do that  from a military
base. It would be a lot cheaper  that putting 4000 troops
out in the desert to feed and set up camps for. No! Trump
has to play these little games trying to please his voting
base.

Trump claims it's a national security issue, even though
boarder activity is at its lowest in many years. A wall or
troops aren't goin to stop drug traffic. Most drugs come
across the boarder hidden in cars and trucks. If they tried
to search all of them it would bring traffic to a stand still.

There are many ways to smuggle drugs into the country. By
car, truck, boat, air, containers on ship transports. If Trump
wants to stop drugs or illega entry we have to watch all
ports of entry across the nation. The Mexican boarder is
just a talking point Trump is using to get votes.

Of course Trump could give some kind of an order to
the troops that might  create a real problem for his
self. Only time will tell.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 08, 2018, 12:49:51 pm
President Trump likes the man he put in charge of the EPA,
because he is working to shut the EPA down. Getting rid of it's
regulations that cost big business  millions. But he is also spending
tax dollars inappropriately which causes bad news reports that Trump
finds embarrassing. So he may get fired, or worse put in charge of
the justice department where he would likely get rid of the special
counsel to please Trump.  Only time will tell.

Conservative news and messaging by local tv is growing
due to "Sinclair". A multi-billon dollar network that is trying
to gain over 40% of the media market across the nation.

The people who work under contract for these people have to
read conservative slanted newscasts or face tens of thousands
in damages if they refuse. The GOP and Trump administration
is doing little or nothing to stop this push by the billionaire class
that is trying to control what the public is told. They know local
newscasters are believed more than national news like Fox News
or other national news networks.

Even newspapers are being bought up by hedge fund billionaires
for the same purpose. The rich know they have to  control the
public or face regulations and laws that may cost them millions
or perhaps billions in profits.

Not all billionaires think this way, but with that kind of money even
a few bad eggs can spoil things for us all. The GOP has worked to
limit government care for the poor. Even in the 1930's they fought
to keep FDR from creating make work jobs to help provide
work for the needy. Thay did their best to defeat the passage of
the social security act that millions depend on today.  Many of the
big lakes people enjoy today were created in the 1930' to make
the country better for us all.

I am for free markets, but they must be regulated to prevent
greed and lust for power over others from creating monopolies
that would be used to hurt the powerless and the poor.

We need a strong two party system of government. Anytime one
party takes over their ideology often runs rampant trying
to remake the government fit their own beliefs. Two parties
balances these desires to prevent an excess by either party.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 09, 2018, 12:36:28 pm
President Trump is doing some finger pointing over the poison
gas attacks on civilians in Syria. Will Trump punish Syria? Time
will tell.. He blaims Obama and others for the problems there. 
Well Obama tried to get Congress to agree on an attack against
Syria, but they sat on their hands and did nothing. So if anyone
is at fault it's the GOP who didn't want the responsibility. of
approving an attack on Syria.

Trump was asked how he felt about China hurting farmers here
in the USA. He replied that the farmers were patriotic and would
be willing to give up profits for their country. Well I have heard
some of these farmers complaining about possible losses hurting
them and their communities.  I would say, how about Trump taking
a similar loss of value for the country. I doubt if Trump would even
skip one can of soda pop for the country unless he had a camera to
show it.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 11, 2018, 12:37:03 pm
The GOP speaker of the house said he is resigning to be a father
to his kids. Time will tell if he goes and who will replace him. If
the democrats win in November the exsiting speaker will become
the minority leader. I wonder if the speaker is leaving so he won't
loose in November.  It's harder to  get elected againn if you lost
a previous election.

President Trump is still deciding how to attack Syria. I hear reports
that Syria on alert and moving equipment out of harms way. Perhaps
even to land their aircraft at Russian bases. Russia claims it will
shoot down any missiles entering Syrian airspace. Trump said
they can try, but our missiles are smart. I guess we will find out
who has the smartest missiles.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 12, 2018, 12:21:57 pm
President Trumps appointment for  the secretary of state
was questioned by the senate . In some cases the GOP
members came to his aid when he had hard questions. I
don't think it's the business of the committee or the
chairman to help an appointee to answer questions. 
If an appointee can't answer questions, he/she
should be denied the job.

People who serve in our highest offices should be the
most competent available. Not someone who is there
to please the president or a political party.

Trumps plans to attack syria may be falling apart. He
has said in the past we shouldn't telegraph our plans, but 
he tweeted he was about to attack with missiles. So Syria
has been preparing for it. If Trump wants to give Russia a
heads up, it should be done just prior to the attack not 2
days.

I think we should always try to use sanctions instead of
bombs to convince nations that they need to change 
their ways. This why we need a strong state department .
Trump has been trying to dismantle it because he thinks
he is smart enough to handle diplomacy all by his self.

One of the biggest problems Trump has is he thinks he
is smarter than everyone else. People like this usally 
have little knowledge. A smart man or woman know
their limitations. It's possible Trump is still trying to
use sales tactics to sell him self to  his supporters, but
it looks like by his actions he really believes he is smarter
than anyone else.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 13, 2018, 12:36:06 pm
President Trumps ego is at work again. He created a commission to
investigate the Post Office wanting to prove Amazon is cheating the
tax payer by not paying the proper postage for it's shipments. In fact 
Amazon is making the post office more profitable not less. Trump is
mad at the owner of Amazon because of the news articles in the
Washington Post News. A news paper owned by Amazons CEO.

This news paper is much more accurate than Fox News. A surrogate of
Trump. This media outlet is owned by billionaires who support Trump
and the new  far right GOP.

Trumps personal lawyer is  doing his best to protect Trump by going to
court to prevent the FBI from using evidence found in his offices. It's
likely there are records of Trumps business practices and perhaps proof
of connections to Russia. It's not likely the court will stay evidence found
under a court ordered warrant, which was used by the FBI.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 14, 2018, 11:37:46 am
President Trumps attack on Syria was more of a tap on the shoulder than damaging
their ability to use chemical weapons on their people. After Trumps warning that an
attack was coming they had plenty of time to move critical equipment to safe areas
near population centers. Syria moved their helicopters to safer locations as well.

Syria has used chemical weapons several times since Trump became president. So
his tears appeared to be ones of convenience instead of those who cared for the
innocent.

By law Trump should have went to congress prior to the attack. In the past Trump
complained that congress should approve attacks. So why did Trump do the very
thing he blaimed other presidents for doing the same? The best way to deal
withother countries is by diplomacy, but Trump doesn't appear to believe in
deplomacy, so it's bombs instead.


There are reports that Trumps personal layyer wasn't his lawyer before Trumps election,
so any conversations prior to that would be usable by the special counsel. Apparently
Trumps lawyer made a habit of recording phone converstations as well. This alone could
put him in jail and Trump impeached. I doubt if the GOP has the backbone to stand up
to Trump. Sometimes I wonder if Trump has dirt on many of the GOP congressmen. It
seems after talking to Trump they are changed. It would be easy for a billionaire like
Trump to hire investigators to look into the background of people. Trump has warned
people publicly that he knows things they wouldn't want told.

Trump pardoned a man who was convected of national security violations. The man
hadn't spent anytime in jail and didn't need a pardon. There are suspisions this was
a message to those who are loyal to Trump that he will pardon them.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 15, 2018, 12:02:04 pm
GOP Speaker Paul Ryan is resigning. A man who has worked to cut
taxes for the rich and get rid of the safety net for the poor, disabled,
and elderly. A favorite of the billionaire class. A millionaire who will
retire with a large pension paid by the government. He is leaving after
increasing the deficit by 1500 billion dollars due to the GOP tax cut
for the rich.

The GOP has been against government help for the poor, disabled and
the elderly due to their conservative views.  They believe people who
are poor are leeches on society. Not all republicans feel this way, but
enough do to be a threat to anyone who is destitute.

A 100 years ago people who found them selves poor or old without
the money to survied had to live on the streets, and in filthy homes
for the poor and elderly. Then only if they were available. People had to
depend on the generosity of others to survive. Some people prefer
to live on the street rather than jumping through the hoops the
government puts up to get aid.

It would be cheaper if the government set a minimum income for
all than having all those government agencies that  work to make
sure the person asking for help is eligible. Each time the GOP does
create a aid program it usually makes the person it helps to become
more dependent than helping them get off government aid. I am
sure the GOP and others would cry some people would just sit and
do nothing, but not  so much if the minimum income was just
enough to exist, and  not take it away when they made a dollar.

Also this would do much to help small businesses with all the
spendable income that would be  available.

President Trump has been beside him self since his lawyers offices
were investigated. Also he is mad about the book the FBI director
he fiired has written about him. Trump never likes it when people
tell the truth about him. He only wants people to do what he tells
them to. Even if it's to lie.

If Trump would just ignore all these problems there would be a lot
less unfavorable news about him, but his immense ego won't let him
leave it alone. He still worries over how he was elected, and that he
didn't win the popular vote. He administration has had more changes
in personal than most any other in such a short time. mostly due to
bad choices, lack of expected loyalty and corruption.

Seems Trump just doesn't understand how government works. He
appears to think as president he is all powerful. Then when someone
says No. He gets mad, and calls the person names just as some kid
would do. We are in the hands of a spoiled rich kid that has never
had to grow up. The GOP membership is afraid they will loose their
seats uf they turn agaubst gun, I think this is why so many have
decided not to try for re election  in the mid term election.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 16, 2018, 11:23:56 am
The book written by the ex director of the FBI is causing
Trump a lot of consternation. Trump seems to think everyone
in government should bow and kiss his boots. If they don't he
fires them or calls them playground names.

The director of the FBI is supposed to follow the law and the
constitution, not to be loyal to the president personally.

The ex director said he felt H Clinton would win, and was afraid
her presidency would be harmed if the investigation had come
to light afterwards.  I guess he failed to remember that congress
could impeach her if it turned out she was guilty of breaking the
law. Politics should never be a concern of the FBI. That's what
we have  congress for.

Trumps lawyer is trying to get the search warrant invalidated in
court. He wants to decide what should be protected under the
lawyer  client  protection rule instead of the  Justice department
and the FBI. The warrant was about his business not the President
so it has no effect on client protection. Hopefully the judge rules
to protect the warrant, and not the lawyers business.

By the way Trump traveled to Florida again. There goes another
3 million tax dollars so Trump can play golf.  All his supporters
should be happy. Personally I think there are many people who
would have a much better need for the money.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 17, 2018, 01:04:56 pm
President Trump continues to throw his own people under the
bus so to speak. His ambassador to the United Nations had said
there were more sanctions to be placed on Russia. Then Trump
turns about and contradicts her to say there are enough sanctions
onRussia and had no plans to add more.

It's no wonder why there are few if any good people in Trumps
administration. What experienced person would want to risk
their reputation working for someone like Trump?

GOP House GOP members continue to resign. I wonder how
many will be running for election this fall. Only time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 18, 2018, 12:18:45 pm
It appears Trumps meeting with the N Korea leader is on track. Tim
will tell how it goes when they actually meet. Trump claims to be a
great negotiator, but from what I have seen Trump seems to be weak
when he meets strong leaders.  Trump is a big man on twitter or in
front of a friendly audience, but not so sure of his self among people
like Putin or the leader of China.

Not to say he should act like a bully, but stand up for what he believes.
People may not agree, but they usually respect others who stand up for
them selves. If Trump flip flops around they will try to control him.

Trump met with Japans leader, who was disturbed by the singular meetings
with N Korea. Trump needs to work with our allies in the region or we
harm relations with a deal that doesn't adress their concerns.
Trump has been president for over 14 months and he doesn't seem
to have any real plans or policies. He seems to fear loosing support of
the far right. Each time he hears a complaint from them he backs
up and follows their lead. Trump is more of a follower than a leader.

Hopefully he doesn't let the N Korean l eader talk him into a bad
deal. I am sure Trump would love to return and talk about a great
deal he made. No matter how bad it might be. It's likely the N Korean
leader will promise a lot, but will he follow it up? In the past they have
made promises then broke them later. We need people in N Korea to
see that they do keep their promises. If they block inspections of
their nuke and missile program, there would be no way to verify
their claims.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 19, 2018, 12:06:54 pm
President Trump claims he has been tougher on Russia
than any other president. Well I guess he forgot about
president Reagan. Or almost any other president since
WWII. Trump has going out of his way to treat Russia
with kid gloves, and still refuses to implement the
sanctions congress passed with a overwhelming majority.

Trump claims he will implement the sanctions when Russia
deserves them. Trump would have removed all sanctions
from Russia when he first took office, but congress stopped
him. Trump still doesn't want to give Russa credit for messing
with the 2016 election. Seems he wants to think he was 
elected all on his own. Well if it wasn't for the antiquated
electoral process he would have lost by 3 million votes.

Cuba has a new president. After almost 60 years of rule
by Castro and his brother. Nothing is changing thought
the so called communist government will continue to control
how the country is run.

Leaders of communist governments claim they are against free
markets and capitalism. Yet they live with all the advantages of
a capitalistic country while the majority of the people living under
a feudal system much as people did in the middle ages.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 20, 2018, 11:42:15 am
School kids across the nation are out to remind our politicians
to keep working on gun safety which they have done little
but talk about it, and little of that.

Keep up the protests Kids. Politicians think you will go away
after a few months. They want all that money they get from
the IRA and others who don't want to see any new gun laws.

Speaking of kids, Trumps attack on Syrian chemical sites to
stop attacks on Kids didn't do much to stop attacks on families
and their kids. Even though he bragged about how successful 
it was. Seems Trump only cares about kids when they are
gassed, not so much when they are blown limb from limb
or shot.

There is a conspiracy theory that the  whole thing was
staged. Russias defense system was never activated and
the anti missile system Syria has only fired it's missiles
after all of our missiles had hit their targets. All this could
just be a coincidence, but looks suspicious. Putin could
still be working to help Trump look good. Putin wants
control of the middle east, and Trumps actions are helping.

Trump is bad mouthing the ex director of the FBI over his book
and the memos he made about his conversations with President
Trump. Trump just can't let these stories and investigations alone.
By talking about it keeps it all in the national media. If he would
just shut up we would hear little of it.

People who have known Trump for years fear if his personal lawyer
flips he will likely be impeached. They say the case against his
lawyer is more dangerous to  his holding office than the one
by the special counsel.  Time will tell.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 21, 2018, 11:26:29 am
The Democrats filed a law suit against the Trump campaign, and
many others including Russians for hacking the DNC. Also
many others over the 2016 election. Trump and others around
him are implying it should be thrown out of court. 

A similar lawsuit was filed during the Watergate investigation, and
was won to the tune of 3/4 of a million dollars for the democrats. So
Trump shouldn't be so secure in thinking it's not going anywhere.

Trump has traveled to his resorts over 100 times since elected. To
play golf and hang out wiht his rich friends. Granted he has had
world leaders with him at times, but this could have been done
at the White House. Due to this Trump has spent over a third of
a billion tax dollars just to feed the life style he is used to. He rarely
ever goes to any resort that is owned by anyone but him self. Who
knows how much money Trump has made for him self and family
since he became president. All this even though Trump claimed he
wanted to stop waste in government. Seems the only wast he wants
to stop is about anyone or thing but himself. Not to save the tax payer
money, but so he can bill the tax payer to fatten his own wallet.

This doesn't count the untold millions spent to secure Trump properties
around the world. 

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 22, 2018, 11:27:38 am
Is enough being done to protect the integrity of our election
process for 2018? Who can say. So far the GOP and Trump
doesn't seem to care or to even acknowledge that Russia
tried to interfere with the 2016 election, and likely helped
elect Trump over H Clinton.  Perhaps to put the senate in
the hands of the GOP as well.

Could it be they are hoping that Russia will continue to
help them win elections? If so it could asnwer the why they
aren't doing much if anything to stop Russian interference. I
am sure they would deny such plans.

Fortunately most states are working to safeguard voting even
though President Trump hasn't done anything to encourage it.
He wants us all to think he won the election on his own. The idea
fo needing help to do anything hurts his ego.

When will Trump stop taking advice from Fox News on how to
run the country? It seems he thinks it's the voice of his voting
base. Well only perhaps 3 million people watch Fox, and I
doubt if all of those believe all they say.

Trump should be getting his information from those who know
the facts. Not from those tossing conspiracy theories at their
viewers. Fox appears to be the voice of the far right billionaire
class, and not the voice of the American majority.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 23, 2018, 12:22:19 pm
It seems President Trump is out to distroy or disrupt
anything Obama did or tried to do. This includes the
Treaty with Iran on nuclear weapons. In May Trump
will need to approve an extension of this treaty with
Iran. If Trump fails to do so will the leader of N Korea
feel he can trust any deal Trump makes. Only time
will tell.

Trump is already trying to say N Korea has agreed to
get rid of it's nuclear weapons, but this is wrong or
a lie by Trump. The N Korea leader has promised to
stop working on nuclear weapons and missils to see
what deal he can make with Trump.

Trump is trying to brag he is responsible for the N Koreans
agreement to meet with him. Actually I think it's China
who is telling the N Korean leader to meet with Trump. A
war with N. Korea would cause massive numbers of   
refugees to leave N Korea for China.  I really doubt
if China wants to deal with that.

I hope a deal to rid N Korea of nuclear weapons is
possible, but I doubt if Trump can accomplish it.
If he does I will give him full credit for doing so. I
will give him full credit if he blows it up too. I don't
think Trump has the patience to do so. He wants
instant success.

Trump is calling for voters to put more republicans
in congress even though the GOP controls both
houses now. He claims the Democrats ore obstructing
his work even though he and the GOP control government.
I am sure if the democrats take the house this fall he
will try to claim any failure of his will be due to the
democrats. 

If the democrats try to impeach him he will call it a
witch hunt. Since it would take a 2/3 vote iln the
senate to kick Trump out it's likely he will stay till
2020 unless enough GOP members vote to do so.
I doubt if there are enough GOP members with the
backbone to  turn against Trump for anything.

 Not as long as over 70% of registered republicans
support him.

The main reason the GOP has control is due to
republicans having a greater interest in voting
than many democrats do. otherwise the GOP
would stay in the minority.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 24, 2018, 12:13:22 pm
President Trump had a news conference with the president of France
who is willing to work with Trump on a new deal with Iran. Trump
apparently finds the French President to his liking as he was all grins
and smiles as he shared the news conference with him. Trump is still
running down the deal Obama made with Iran. I wonder if the leader
of N Korea will trust Trump if he breaks that deal?

Trump likes to complain about all the money we gave Iran as part of the
deal Obama made.  Trump fails to mention it was Irans money to begin
with. I think he repeats it trying to make himself look smart.

Trump bad mouthed others in the European Union on trade. Making
public statements like this doesn't help. Deals are best worked out
in private as other leaders have to honer their own commitments.

Trump was asked if he planned to pardon his personal lawyer who is under
investigation. Trump called it a stupid question and imoved on. Does this
mean Trump plans to pardon him? Time will tell.

It has been reported that the White House physician drinks too much and
over prescribes medication.  If these reports are true he would have no
business running the Veterans administration.  This is the same man who
said Trump was in fine physical condition. Hopefully the wasn't stretching
the truth for Trumps benefit.

Seems Trump never does any background checks before he appoints people
to important government office. Just goes with his gut I guess.  Well his gut
often blows more hot air than  making good choices..

I must admit in the past our country was often called a paper tiger. Perhaps
Trumps tactics may change that view. Who can say, but time will tell. We can
only hope Trump knows what line he shouldn't cross. Some people will fight
rather than to back down. It's a shame our leaders don't have to lead the
army when they threaten to start a war. I have a hunch they would look
for a peaceful solution if that was the case. Over the past half century
our presidents have mostly been been under fire, so they knew what our
people in the military are up against. With Trump he avoided the draft with
a claim of foot problems. Yet he plays golf.

H. W. Bush is very ill in a hospital today. Many people often die soon after
loosing their spouse of many years.. I woulldn't be surprised if  president
Bush ldidn't live much longer.  Hopefully he recovers, but time will tell.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 26, 2018, 12:02:31 pm
Apparently Trumps appointment to the VA has with drawn. This makes
about 24 Trump appointments who have with drawn since Trump took
office. Rather odd since  Trump and the GOP control who gets appointed. 

Trumps lawyer pleads the 5th in his civil suit. Apparently concerned he
might incriminate himself  with a parallel investigation on his possible 
criminal activities. Though it's perfectly alright, but during his campaign
Trump ran down anyone who uses the 5th amendment as only guilty
people use it. Does that mean Trump thinks his  lawyer is guilty?

Trump is wanting to preview all the data that was gathered when
the FBI served a warrant to see Trumps personal lawyer had in his
possession. If a judge was to allow this, it's likely Trump would want
to hide any data that might cause him legal trouble. All he would have
to say it was privileged information. This just shows Trump is out to
cover up any and all of his past activities.
 
Trump was on Fox News for an interview. Trump kind of got on a rant
so they told him they had to end the interview. I wonder if Trumps
lawyers were on the phone to Fox begging them to end the interview?
Otherwise what news outfit would want to stop an interview with the
president? Not to run a commercial I am sure. I think this is why they
don't want Trump talking directly to the special counsel, because they
think he will do the same thing, and end his presidency.

President Trump was talking to a wounded warriors group telling them
how much he wanted to improve the Veterans administration. Then why
did Trump appoint someone who is totally unqualified to run it. I think
Trump only tells people what he thinks they want to hear. This is a
sales tactic Trump has likely used for years. Politicians do much the
same. Even when they know they are misleading those they are
talking to. Also Trump wants to privatize the VA. There are several
billionaires who would profit from such a change. Privatization would
likely leave many Veerns without good coverage or care.

People should remember that Trump is out to help himself, and his
family. Not anyone else. That includes the Veterans. I fear many will
continue to support Trump when they shoulldn't.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 27, 2018, 11:59:29 am
The speaaker of the house fired the house chaplin, with no real
explaination. The chaplin was a republican, so what vindictive
strike was this? Seems politics even rises above faith these days.


A report from a committee in the house of representatives is out
and they are claiming there was no collusion between the Trump
campaign and Russia.  Of course this is a totally partisan report
from a GOP run committee. So one should take it with a grain of
salt. Because their is evidence they were out to protect Trump.

I expect they will call any report from the special counsel biased
against Trump, and to favor the democrats.

There are reports that the N Korean leader is willing to end the
Korean war after 6 decades. This agreement is with S Korea. So
far Trump has little to do with it. So far there is no agreement to
get rid of N Koreas nuclear weapons, or any disarmament. Yes it's
still very early, but N Korea has done similar things in the past trying
to get economic aid. Then return to their old ways. It's all positive so
far, but only time will tell. Trump best not be practicing any speeches
a Nobel peace prize yet.

I think we can be sure Trump will take all the credit he can, but if N. Korea
isn't willing to get rid of it's nuclear weapons, Trump has done little to
change anything. Threats to start a nuclear war shouldn't gain anyone
a peace prize. On the other hand Nobel prizes are given out for doing
things by accident, so why not Trump.

Trump still wants to pull out of the deal with Iran and it's nuclear
weapons program. If so how can N Korea trust the U S A to keep
any agreement? Trump and the GOP should get off this business
of doing away with anything Obama did during his time as president.
Looks like a racist policy to me.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 28, 2018, 12:02:11 pm
I haven't mentioned it lately, but the GOP, Trump and most of those
he appoints are against the rights of the  LGBT, Women, and minorities,
religious or otherwise. If this effects you, be sure to vote for those who
support your rights this fall. Otherwise you may find your rights
disappearing.

Those in power claim to be religious, but are hypocrites who only
suppor the richest of us all. They fired the House Chaplin apparently
because he reminded those in congress that they should care for
everyone, including the poor and disadvantaged as well as the rich.
The GOP leadership and Trump apparently afraid his prayers might
diminish their ability to pass laws that only help their rich friends.

The person appointo run the EPA was questions in a committee about
his over spending. He tried to  pass the blaim on career employees.
Perhaps as an a temp to justify firing those who don't support his
changes to the EPA. We should remember this man is in the pocket
of big business. They want regulations that protect the enviroment
removed to increase their profits.

Trump and the GOP continue to claim they are responsible for the
growing economy. Even though Trump and the GOP were running
the same growing enoucmy down prior to the 2016 election.

Trump will always try to make people think he supports everyone
when he only bearly supports those who voted for him and especially
hmself. We should ignore his tweets and comments because
is a pathological lier. Look at his actions not his big mouth.

Ok Veterans, Trump is planning to put his current chief of staff in to
run the Veeterens administration. A man who will lie for Trump when
told to. So you can expect a push for privatization of the VA. Hard telling
whaht else. Trump claims he loves those who fight for the country but
does little to protect their rights.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 29, 2018, 11:56:16 am
President Trump had a big ralley last night. You can tell he always
speaks to friends and family, because he can't handle boo's and
criticism. His crowds would likely cheer if Trump turned around
and dropped his pants. I think Trump has people hired to start
chants and cheers. There is proof he did during his campaign.

Trump is a professional salesman. He knows how to manipulate
people. Just like a charismatic leader of a cult. He feeds his
followers what they want to hear. There are stories of
corruption the public wants to believe and Trump knows
them all. He uses them to build himself up and tare  others 
down.

If Trump thinks he can do the same to world leaders he is fooling
himself. They see him for what he is and will manipulate him instead.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 30, 2018, 12:53:22 pm
The Trump administration is doing all it can to restrict voting rights
for those who don't usually vote for the GOP. The GOP uses gerrymandering
to limit voting districts so people who don't vote for
the GOP by splitting them up to minimize their numbers.

Voting districts should be determined to give equal
representation to the people. If 1/2 the people are
GOP and the other half is Democrats then the
districts should be set up to give each party equal
representation based on voting history. There is
no totally fair way to set up distrcts, so a lottery
system or computer program might be best.

Leaving it up to political parties is never fair for all
 voters. Personally I think  political partys should be
outlawed. The founders of the country didn't design the
constitution to deal with political parties, it was setup
trying to give equal rights to each state. This is why each
state has two senators no matter their size.

I doubt if much will change as policial partyies give a
lot of power to the upper class. Most of them have little
interest in helping the poor and handicapped. If you
think not just look at human history.

A large group of people from central america has arrived
at the southern boarder of our country. Most of which are
women an children. President Trump is turning his back on
these people claiming they are a danger to our national
security.  It's just more proof that Trump cares nothing for
those who are poor, or elderly. To him they are loosers who
deserve their lot in life.

These people should be properly checked to see if they are
deserving our protection. Not just given a slap in the face by
a uncaring governmnt. I think most people in our country
care about refugees. Those who support Trump don't represent
the majority.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on April 30, 2018, 02:36:11 pm
My best friend/ coworker of 9 years is from Vietnam as a refuge.   He has said many times that he would gladly defend this country with his life because it gave him so much more.   He did all that he could to be a productive member of society and it's true he did. He came here with no money,  no education, no family, unable to speak the language.

Just being from another country is not an automatic indicator that a person is"bad". What they do determines if they are bad and shouldn't be let in.

I know that there is concern about job loss and such. I think we can figure this out.
I keep thinking how will Americans be treated by other countries if/ when we start a max exodus of our own...
Golden rule may help here.
Just some thoughts.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 02, 2018, 12:33:35 pm

It seems many people need scapegoats to cover their own
failings.  Most people who wish to immigrate to the U.S.A. are
wanting to start a new life. Not looking for a free ride as some
like to say. Trump is using the fears of some and lazyness of 
others to get votes. He uses this to gain the favor of those
who are too lazy to do stoop labor, or work out in  the hot 
sun for minimum wage.

Trump hires foreign workers for his hotels and resorts. He
knows they will work harder for low wages than many
americans would. He discriminates against women and
American minorities.

It seems President Trump has finally learned that we
need a strong state department. His new secretary of
state appears to be pushing to restore the department
of state with Trumps blessings.  Time will tell if Trump
continues to support this plan. If the new secretary
happens to be caught by a Trump on the fly policy change
that often happens. Which contridicts the secretaries statements.
Will Trump fire him?

Trump often makes poicy changes upon hearing a news
report by Fox News.  He doesn't ask for advice. Trump seems
to think he knows it all.

There is a report that Trump sent men to remove Trumps medical
records from his doctor of over 30 years. The men actec like
goons from some mob boss instead of presenting a signed request
that Trump wanted his records. I think the doctor should have
called the police to report a theft. He said at the time he was
afraid to stop them. One wonders if this kind of action has been
a habit of Trump in the past.

The doctor was reported to say that Trump wrote his own medical
report that was given as Trumps condition of health. in 2016.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 03, 2018, 11:05:51 am
Trumps lawyers and friends claim an interview with
the special counsel is a purgery trap. I guess they are forgetting
that one has to lie to commit surgery. Perhaps they are afraid
Trump can't get through any interview without telling a lie.

Now who would think Trump would ever tell a lie?   Trump claims
he is too smart to be caught in a lie. If you believe that I have
some swamp land on Mars to sell.

I don't know about anyone else, but if a man or woman is unable
to tell the  truth they have no business being our president.

It seems everyone who is connected to Trump is required to lie
for him. Trump requires a loyalty oath from all who work for him. 
This was fine for private business, but those who work for the 
government give an oath to support the constitution above all.
 Even the president.

There are reports that North Korea s about to release 3 american
prisoners.  If so I am very happy for the captives and their families.
The sad part is that Trump will likely claim he is totally responsible for
their release. When it's mostly about the efforts of the South Korean
president. Also it's likely the N Korean leader feeding Trumps ego.

Trump has created a office in the White House for religious faith. Is
this the first step toward a cabinet position for religion? Even this
tiny first step to a theocracy will likely end up in the supreme court
as being unconstitutional.  It's nothing but a ploy to his Evangelical
supporters. If the VP had his way all gays would be sent to
rehabilitation camps to cure their perversion. Because he thinks
being gay is a sin they lead others into. Time will tell.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 04, 2018, 11:51:52 am
President Trump told the press "Learn before you speak".  Now
 isn't that a laugh. Trump never listens or learns much of anything
before he speaks.

His buddy from New York was saying Trump paid his lawyer back to
cover the money paid to the porn star.  Then Trump is saying his
buddy wasn't up on his facts and his lawyer buddy would do better
soon.  I guess Trump must have a lot of trust in this guy. At one
time he was a famous mayor and lawyer, but that was  many
years ago. Sometimes people loose their edge when they reach 
their 80's. Especially after being in retirement for a long time.

Trump and the GOP are bragging about the economy, but wages
are flat considering inflation. Unemployment appears to be low,
but many people have quit looking for work after months or
even years of looking. Or they are doing part time jobs.
Job growth and along with the stock market are growing at
much the same steady rate they have for the past 9 years. In
spite of Trump and the GOP's claims.

President Trump is off to Dallas Texas to a big NRA convention.
I am sure Trump will continue  his campaign style speeches.  Where
he blames the democrats, H Clinton, and Obama for our problems,
and how big his win was in 2016. Along with how many regulations
he has removed. Many of which were made to protect the
environment and public health.  I am sure he will tell the
NRA they can depend on him to support  gun rights. 


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 05, 2018, 11:57:03 am
I think President Trumps speech at the NRA shows him for the 
hypocrite he is. He said he didn't care what the NRA wanted, now
he is practially begging those at the NRA  to support him by saying
 he would stand against any law that affects firearms. The NRA
spent over 30 million to support Trump in 2016. Trump wants
to run in 2020 so he wants to use their money to help
him win.

So Kids if you want gun control laws, you can't depend on Trump, and
I doubt if you can depend on any politician who accepts money from
the NRA. Be they GOP or Democrat.

The Trump administration is forcing refugees at our southern boarder to
wait out in the cold to see if they are eligible to enter the country. This
includes women, babies, elderly, and young children to wait out side
even though some are sick.  A tiny amount of what Trump wastes each
month would  pay for shelters they could wait in.

Just shows how heartless Trump is. Even americans in Puerto Rico is still
needing aid to recover. You can be sure if Texas or Florida who were
hit by the same  storm would not be forgotten by Trump.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 06, 2018, 11:46:45 am
If President Trump pulls out of the no nuke treaty with Iran it's likely
they will return to enriching uranium again. This will give Trump an
excuse to start a war with Iran. A war that Isreal, Saudi Arabia and a
few others in the area want the U.S.A. to do.

This will shut down all oil shipments out of the area. So we and Trumps
supporters will be paying over $5.00 a gallon for gas. This will drag
the economy down and raise prices for everything we consume. If
might even cause a world wide economic depression.

We can only hope Trump doesn't pull out of the Iran deal, but he
seems to be bound and determined to destroy all of Obama's
accomplishments including this.

This could cause N Korea to be less likely to  trust any deal we
might try to make.

Will the democrats gain control of the house of representatives this fall?
Only time will tell. If they do they need to make the party leadership
more diverse. Taking minority groups for granted will cost the
democrats support in the future. We can be sure the GOP is
looking for every advantage to regain power, and those in
the democratic party leadership need to pay attention.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 07, 2018, 11:45:43 am
President Trump and the GOP complain that the Muller
investigation is  taking too lovn. Yet the GOP's investigation
of H Clinton lasted for 4 years with no proof of wrong doing. 

Already the special counsel has several sarges pending against
those who are connected to Trumps campaign.

The special counsel's invesitgaion is only 14 months old, much
less than many investigations. If Trump and his people would
quit fussing about it there wouldn't be much in the news about
the investigation. Yet Trump continues to  complain, tweet, and
fuss  which drives daily news reports. Trumps over inflated ego
is his worst enemy.

I have a hunch that if somehow Trump manages to be re elected
in 2020 he will push to allow unlimited terms for the office of
president. Why? Because he wants to be a dictator much like
those in China or Russia.


Only Time will tell.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 08, 2018, 12:59:00 pm
President Trump, the GOP and their supporters are complaining that the
special counsel investigation is taking too long.  Well if Trump would 
quit lieing and come clean it would go a lot faster. But no he is afraid the
truth about him and his friends will come out. It's likely several would
end up in prison if they told the truth. Several may end up there anyway
unless Trump pardons them all. It's likely Trump will try to pardon himself
if impeached...

Oly time will tell.

Will President Trump pull out of the treaty with Iran?  He has been hinting
that he plans to do just that. If he does I think it will lead to war and when
the body bags start piling up, Trumps reign will end...

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 09, 2018, 11:48:10 am
I think we can all give the president of South Korea a big thank
you for the release of the 3 prisoners by N Korea. I am sure
President Trump will try to take full credit for it. I hardly think
threats of nuclear war is any way to deal with any other country
as Trump has done with N Korea since taking office. He seems to
think why have these weapons if not to  use them.

Perhaps Trump forgets we live on a small planet with no place
else to live. If there is a nuclear war the planet may end up
unfit to live on. Then it won't matter who owns anything.
Nuclear weapons are for deterrents,  not for war. It would be
better for the human race to surrender than use them. Unless 
death is preferred.

I think we need to change our constitution so that anyone
running for the senate or the office of President should be
declared physically and psyphologically fit. Also have a
security check done as well. People in these high offices handle
our secrets and can start wars. At the time of the countries
founding it was assumed congress would put the countries
welfare above their own. The public at large generally hasn't
the knowledge needed to vote for a good person. When most
of what they know is from the statements of those running for office.
for office. Nothing is perfect, but we should strive to make the
union better for us all. Not just for the richest of us.

Trump pulled us out of the nuclear treaty with Iran. I wonder if
the leader of N Korea will trust anything we say in the future. They
don't  need much of an excuse to break their promises. Trump may
claim great things after his meeting with the leader of N Korea, but
with Trump it's lies till we see the proof.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 10, 2018, 11:48:00 am
It's decided, Trump and the N Korean leader will meet in
Singapore on June 12. I imagine Trump will talk about it
from now to the day he climbs on Air Force One.
 
We can only hope President Trump uses more than his
guts to plan for the meeting. It would be easy to insult
a foreign leader unless you understand their culture or
habits. I am sure the N Korean leader is wanting to  make
a deal with Trump, but somehow I don't think Trumps
money ideas will close a deal with a man who enjoys
being number one and plans to stay that way...

The big problem I see with Trump is he can't stay on any
subject for more than a few minutes. He won't have a teleprompter
when he meets the N Korean leader, so he could end up talking
about his big election win or golf...

President Trump met the released prisoners over night after they
landed.  Trump had floodlights, flags, and lots of news people. It's a
wonder he didn't have a brass band to boot.. It's great these
people made it back to the U.S.A. but I think Trump turning
the return into a political event just shows Trump wanted it
to be more about him than anything else. I imagine all those
people wanted to do was get some rest, but they had to listen
to Trump instead.

The Vice president is trying to get the special counsel to end his
investigation because it's taking too long, Well he can get off
his GOP stump and tell us why it was worth spending 4 years
to investigate H. Clinton with no proof. Purely political and was
admitted to be to news cameras.

When Trump ran for office he said he was going to cut back on
lobbsts. It's the pay for play that Trump tried to claim H Clinton
was doing. Turns out the number of lobbyists has increased alot
since Trump took office. So the Swamp grows bigger and bigger
under the man who said he would clean it up.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 11, 2018, 11:38:10 am
It was reported that a Trump staff member remarked that Senator
Mc Cain was irrelevant because he is dieing. This was apparently said
because Senator Mc Cain was against Trumps appointment to lead the
CIA. Trump doesn't like Cain because he shot Trump down when he
tried to destroy the Health care program Obama had created.

Senator Mc Cain wasn't against fixing the ACA, he was against the
way the GOP leadership was trying to do it. They weren't following
proper lawful procedures..

The GOP was paid 30 million dollars by a Los Vegas Billionaire. This
was to pay the GOP for saving him over 600 million in taxes. This is
just one of several payments the GOP has recieved for passing their
tax cut that was designed to help the richest Americans. Trump claims
this tax  cut was for all Americans. Well enjoy it whil it lasts Mr and
Misses  America, because it's only temporary for the average tax payer.. 
Trump and the GOP are just trying to buy your vote for the 2018
election, and will be gone soon.

I think it's time we put people in congress who will work to give
every American the same power over our elected officials. Not
just those who are rich. No one should be able to donate any
more than the average American could afford to give. The
creation of these political action committees were to get around
limits on political donations. They should have to follow the
same limits for political support as any individual would.

The packs could support a political party , but not individual
politicians  for election or reelection.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 12, 2018, 12:07:41 pm
The Trump administration is physically removing babies from
mothers who are trying to get protection here in the U.S.A. At
their home their government is corrupt and gangs kill their
children and rape young girls and mothers.

Yet the Trump administration points at them and claims they
are a security risk for our country to justify government actions.

It appears if a person isn't from northern Europe they should
go elsewhere. This is nothing but racism by those running our
government. Especially those in the Trump administration. 

This country was built with immigrants, most of which were
looking for a new life, not a free ride. It's odd we don't hear
about immigrants from the far east, just those who have brown
skin and are Latinos. I think this is the main reason the Trump
administration has done so little to help Puerto Rico recover.

Almost everyone in this country is a descendant of immigrants. 
Most were from rural areas with little education. When they arrived
they told their children to get a good education, not how to get
a free ride. 

I think it's the hard work ethic most immigrants have that gives some
Americans reason to worry. It's unfortunate, but some Americans
want big pay for little physical work. This leaves jobs wanting that
require hard work at minimum wage. It's these jobs immigrants flock
to. Also people often like to blame others for their own failures.

Trump is in most cases a poor buisness man, but he understands how
to manipulate people and use human nature to gain power. All you have
to do is watch one of his ralleys if you don't believe it. He selling himself
with lies and promises he will likely fail to keep.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 14, 2018, 12:15:47 pm
President Trump has moved our embassy to Isreal to Jerusalem. Trumps
son n law made a speech claiming it would help bring peace to the
area.  I wonder if he knew the Israels army had killed over 40
Palestinian demonstrators due to the embassy move. I really
doubt if Trump cares how many people die because of his decisions, as
long as his supporters are happy. Even if it's children who are killed.

The Trump administration still hasn't apologized for the rude comment
about senator Mc Cain by a staff member. Trump doesn't believe in
apologies as he thinks it makes him look weak. Admitting a mistakes
shows intelligence not weakness.

Trump opens more electronics trade with China. Not for American 
companies, but for a big Chinese company that will unfairly compete
with U.S. companies and creates a security risk for our country. 

Trump tries to look tough when making speeches, but when he meets
with a strong foreign leader he cows  down to them. Trump has done
more to make China great than America since he was elected.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 16, 2018, 12:50:04 pm
North Korea backs off from a meeting with President Trump. Or is it
just a game the N Korean leader is playing to get a better deal from
Trump?

Personally I think the Trump administration has been boasting too
much
and should be quiet about any deal he wishes to make. I doubt if the
N Korean leader wants the world to think he is bowing to Trumps wishes,
much less his own people.

The GOP released a lot of testimonty about the meeting set up by Trumps
son in Trumps tower with a Russian lawyer. Apparently to gain dirt that
would hurt the H Clinton campaign. Shows that even Trumps son has a
bad memory like most everyone in Trumps campaign. His son claims his
father didn't know about it. I doubt if anything envolving Trump happens
without Trumps permission. Besides Trump was promissing his supporters
that he had dirt to tell them a few days prior to this meeting, and never
followed up with it. Just as if the dirt never showed up. Just like it apparently
failed to show in the meeting.

It shouldn't make any difference wither Trump got info or not. Just trying
to get it from a foreign power is unpatriotic and wrong.

You can find out more at the following links.
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 19, 2018, 12:00:50 pm
There was a school shooting in Texas yesterday. President Trump and
congress are saying how bad it is and something needs to be done. Well
don't hold your breath people. Trump and the GOP have no plans to
do anything. They are blinded by the millions of dollars telling them not
to change anything. The only thing that will make a difference is people
showing up to vote.

President Trump wants to be like Russia's Putin. A man who controls
the media and congress. He got that control by winning support of
the people with lies, and promises of making his country great again.
Sound familiar?  Trump is doing much the same. He has a supporter
 base large enough to control congress. If the GOP keeps control who
knows how far Trump can go. Trump knows how to manipulate the
public may try to extend his time in office till he is too old to talk. 
He has hinted at doing this already.

There are reports Trump has bribed "Cutter" a middle east country
to get his son n law out of financial trouble. Using his power as
president. He put thousand of our troops at risk doing this.
Even though Trump claims he supports the military.

Trump has had the postmaster general to the White House several times
trying to get him to double postage for Amazon.com to send packages.
This is an attempt to punish the owner of Amazon for the news reports
Trump dosen't like by the Washington Post. A large news paper in
Washington DC, owned by the same person who owns Amazon. Using
presidential power to take revenge  was one of the reasons for the
impeachment of President Nixon.

This has failed because Amazon has a contract with the post office. Also the
post office isn't loosing money delivering packages for Amazon. In fact they
are making good money doing it.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on May 19, 2018, 12:20:50 pm
There was a school shooting in Texas yesterday.

What depresses me most is that that shooting yesterday morning happened in MY home town! In MY old high school even!
My own home isn't even safe from this stuff and it hurts me right down in my soul because those are my people.
My home that I've been exiled from for 14 years now and I can't do anything but watch helplessly from a distance as even Santa Fe falls victim to the same social problems as the rest of America.
 :'( I have wanted so badly to go back home for all of these years but never moreso than now.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 20, 2018, 11:56:22 am
Yes it is very sad to see this in ones home town. I partly blame Trump
for his division of our people with his bigotry and racism. I hope we can
get past this when people like Trump are pushed out of power. I fear
many will suffer between now and then. We all have to work against
those who wish to harm or take away the the rights of others.



The GOP has been trying to get the FBI and justice department to releast
the name of the informant who gave the FBI information about the
Trump campaign. Releasing names of informants will destroy the
ability of law enforcement to  get information about criminal activity in
the future. What person would talk if they couldn't count on having
their identity protected? In many cases this could put lives at risk.
When will the GOP put law and country before president Trump? It's their
job to  protect the constitution , not president Trump.

The GOP claim they want small government yet they support President
Trump in his attacks on business. Millons of peoples jobs are at risk if these
buisnesses go under because of these attacks. Where is the GOP who say
they want jobs for all? They sit on their hands whil Trump steps on the
constitution so he can get his way. 

Trump continues to dehumanize immigrants, calling them animals. It's
Trump who is inhuman in the way he treats the poor and minorities. Now
the Trump administration is separating babies from their mothers. Claiming
it's for the safety of the child. Perhaps to make it easier to mistreat the parent.

The supporters of the GOP and Trump should hang their heads in shame. This
includes evangelicals who's religion demands care for the poor and children. Jews
who watched the inauguration of the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem said it was more
about President Trump and evangelicals than the Jewish people.

Since Trump has been in office there have been many shooting across the country.
Almost all by home grown individuals Ye Trump continues to blame immigrants are
dangerous to the security of the country.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 23, 2018, 12:43:19 pm
President Trump continues to use one gang "MS13" as an excuse
 to keep people from coming into our country. Yes the habits
of this gamg are very bad, but it's a few people that don't
represent the vast majority of immigrants.

I doubt if a muggle  like Trump would know if he saw a witch.  I know
it's just a metaphor, but I bet he will call the special counsel's report
fake and lies. He has tried to call the whole thing political even though
the special counsel is a republican and was started by the GOP. I don't
think the GOP leadership expected their special counsel to  protect Trump.
Now that he isn't they are against the man they bragged on at first. I
guess they think he is a bad republican.

Congress has voted to get rid of regulations that limit banks from taking
big risks like the did a dozen years ago. The risks that led to the recession
of 2006. Will the GOP ever learn that people are greedy, and need regulations
to keep them honest? I guess not as long as they can use the American
tax payer to cover their mistakes.

Ever notice that the very rich spend little time in jail or prison? It seems all
they need is money and high powered lawyers to get a way with breaking the
law. Even the jails they sometimes end up in are more like resorts than anything
else. I think this partly why government leaders want rich people in congress.
They know many rich people got rich by not following the law to the letter.
People like this will leave loopholes the rich can take advantage of. If regular
people started filling congress this would come to an end. It's unfortuant, but
many people think rich people are very smart. Trouble is many rich  people
got that way by being corrupt and by taking advantage of others. If you
doubt this just look at Unions and why they were started. No one party can
claim innocence, but the GOP ranks high on the list.

A African American woman will be running for governor in Georgia this fall. This
person isn't rich, and had to defer paying taxes to get life saving medical care
for her father. The GOP is already running her down because of this. They have
no shame. Here again they want a rich republican as Governor. Someone
who will support the needs of the rich over the public needs.
 
Trump is backing down on what he wants to accomplish with the N Korean meeting.
I imagine the N Korean leader didn't like Trumps bragging and backed up a bit to cool
Trump down. Trump wants a good meeting to help the GOP this fall. So he is playing
it down so he can come home bragging about his success no matter how small.

By the way the Harley Davidson motorcycle company closed a plant in Missouri. They
are opening a new plant in the far east. This plant takes 400 jobs from the US and moves them to the far east. The plant that closed cost 800 jobs. The company made a billion
dollars last year. Then a big tax break from the GOP. So they had little excuse to
move out of the country. We are not likely to hear much about it from the GOP or
Trump. A man who promised more jobs for the U.S.A. It's likely the GOP will loose
votes from those 800 workers this fall.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 24, 2018, 11:42:17 am
President Trump backs out of the meeting with the N Korean leader on June 12.
One wonders if it was because of the N Koreans bad mouthing the vice president
or not. Many have said Trump shouldn't have accepted having a meeting in the
first place. There should have been much negotiation prior to any meeting with
Trump and the N Korean leader. I think Trump was looking for a win, but relied
it could end up making him look like a looser. So by canceling the meeting  he
feels it will make him look stronger. With Trump it's all about how others see him.

Will China put more pressure on N Korea? Hard to say. Trump is likely to blame
China for this. We know Trump never accepts responsibility for anything that
goes wrong. Trump should learn he can't treat strong man leaders like he does
his GOP lackies. Threats by Trump to use Nuclear weapons is stupid and dumb.
The N Korean leader is fully aware of our power. 

I heard one man running for congress as a republican say. It's Trumps
unpredictability that makes him a good leader. Well unpredicability can start
wars too. Many wars have been started because misunderstandings and fear
of attack. Other countries  should have a clear understanding of our intentions,
not having to guess.

Congress continues it's protection for Trump. They are meeting with the Justiist
department trying to get information about the spcial counsels investigation. We
can be sure anything they find out will go streight to the White House. This totally inapropreiate as investigations need to be kept secret to keep involved parties
 from covering up and destroying  any and all evidence.

Trump is calling the investigation Spy Gate. Actually this isn't a bad name as
Russian spys were involved in their attack on the 2016 presidential election.
It is likely the Russians did help Trump get the job. Trump doesn't seem to
understand it was the FBI who were trying to protect him from the Russians.
To inform Trump the Russians were trying to help him. As it turns out Trump
was likely glad to have the Russians help. He called for them to hack H Clintons
email during his campign.

This isn't the first time Russia has tried to interfere  in our presidential elections.
They tried to get Stevenson to run again in 1960, and others over the years. 
Trump is possibly the first man to accept their help. Perhaps this why Trump
has bent over backwards trying to help Russia.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 26, 2018, 12:08:17 pm
President Trump talks about patriotism, yet his wife had to remind
him to put his hand over his heart when the anthem was played.
That shows it wasn't something he usually did. Also he did his best
to stay out of the Vietnam war, claiming his feet were bad.So to  me
Trump is nothing but a hypocrite when it comes to being a patriot.

He said those who aren't patriotic should leave the country. Well in
that case Trump should resign and move to Russia.

As long as white nationalists run the government we will see racial
abuse to minorities and lack of respect for LGBT and women. Perhaps 
those who hate immigrants should be returned to the country their 
ancestors came from.

President Trump backs up and says he will meet with the N Korean leader.
Perhaps he saw his hopes for a Nobel Prize take wing. If peace with N
Korea is oobtained it will be due to the S Korean president, not Trump.

Trump proves he doesn't care for the rule of law by his demand to investigate
the Special counsel investigation prior to its completion. An act that does much
more to disrupt the rule of law in our country. Trump continues to act like
he is some kind of a dictator. He lies to his supporters to keep them in
the dark about his ambitions and those of his friends. It was reported
Trump told a news person that he was calling the media fake so his
supporters would believe his lies instead of the facts. I paraphrased it
but that was the meaning. He was also reported to say he got cheers
when calling fake Hispanics bad people. He plans to keep doing it.

During Trumps campign he hired a lot of people to cheer and start
chants when he spoke. It's very likely he still hires people to  do
the same in all his rallies.. 

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 27, 2018, 12:23:56 pm
President Trump is trying to convince Americans that the FBI and
justice department are breaking the law. It's the FBI that helped
get him elected. Yet Trump is scared the FBI will prove he is guilty of
crimes so he works to convince his voting base he is the good guy
and the FBI and the media is bad.  It's the FBI that keeps us safe
from those who would kill or steal from the innocent. We must
support the FBI over any politician who tries to say otherwise. You
might find one individual who is bad, but not the agency. 

Trump is trying to claim he was spyed upon by the FBI, but it was one
of his own workers who talked to the FBI. Not a spy from anyone but
the Russians. 

I among many people across this nation would like to see president
Trump impeached and possibly  tossed in prison. But even if the
democrats take both houses of congress it would take more than 
a dozen GOP senators to agree, or it would likely fail. Then Trump
the master of lies would claim a victory saying it's proof there was
no collusion with Russia.

The democrats would do better working to prove to a majority of
the GOP base that Trump really is a lying con artist who only cares
about himself, family, and his close friends. To him American is 
just a place to gain power and riches. He considers anyone who 
isn't rich a looser. Yes that includes his voting base. One day they
may see it, but it will likely be years from now. I imagine some
still think president Nixon was innocent. Just like some think we
never went to the moon.

It's time we fight fire with fire, and call lies lies instead of some term
that sounds nicer. Trump is a master at selling, a con man who knows
how convince people of anything. Especially if they want to believe
anything Trump says.  Many people hate to admit they voted for a
who appears to be a crook. They will keep hoping he is a good guy
after all. Even to make excuses for him.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 28, 2018, 01:00:08 pm
President Trump on this memorial  day spoke at the Arlinngton National
cemetary after the presidentual laying of the reef at the tomb of the
unknown soldier. Trump had people there to  tug at our heartstrings. A
professional as always when speaking to his fans. . It would be interesting
to know what he was thinking at the time, but I bet he wouldn't want
us to know.

Trump is pushing to have his meeting with the N Korean leader on June 12th.
I wonder if it wouldn't been better to schedual  it a bit later to give Trump
more time to prepare for the meeting. You can be sure the N Korean leader has
studied Trump from his wig on down. I imagine Trump thinks his gut will pave
the way to a successful meeting. I imagine those who know better are very
concerned about the outcome. But time will tell.

Trumps calling the investigation spy gate is about Russian spies not
not the FBI. I really don't know why people let Trump tell them
what to think, or believe. I guess every con mans phrase "A fool
is  born every minute" is sad but true. Seems Trump has found a
lot of them. I hope they come to understand Trumps plan before
he hurts all but the top 5% of the country.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 29, 2018, 01:29:10 pm
Is there a massive coverup by the Trump administration over the loss
of life in Puerto Rico? Reports show that perhaps as many as 4000
may have died due to the lack of follow up care that people across
the island needed after the storms that hit in 2017. Trump claimed
the location was hard to get to and only 64 died. GOP Politicians
and Trump worked hardto help Texans and those in Florida. Perhaps
it's because Puerto Ricans can't have representation in the federal
government. They have received more help from their fellow
Americans. Trump has done little as he seems to look at them as
more Latinos asking for a handout.

President Trump is still trying to blame  the Democrats for how the
Trump administrations separating immigrant kids from their parents
Even though the democrats have no say in the current situation. Over
1500 kids have been lost in the system. Trumps people claim the
 kids are fine even though they are lost. Is this a lie to cover up a
real problem? Only time will tell. Personally I think it's more proof that
Trump cares little or nothing for poor people.

Trump is a money grubbing con artist, and the sooner people realize
this the better for America. After world war one Germany was humiliated.
Then when the world depression of the 1930's started. The people of
Germany, Italy, and other European countries were led into Fascism by
charismatic leaders like Hitler who promised jobse for all and to make
their countries great again. The cry of all power grabbing dictators.
These people play on the fears of those who think those who are
different are a danger to their way of life.

Fascism is a trap easily pulled into . The signs are there and if we allow
it to grow we will all loose our rights. Rights to speak, to have guns, and
others. Racism and discrimination will thrive supported by a leader who
will promise prosperity while minorities and the poor beg in the streets.

You may feel this can't happen here, but it can when people sit back
and let bad people gain control. Much of what is happening today
would not have been allowed not too many years ago. I think the
fact we had a black man for president started it with the help of those
in the GOP wanting power. I wonder if they don't have a devil by the
tail. Racism is very hard to control.

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links.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 01, 2018, 12:02:11 pm
June is Pride month for the LGBT. I wish them all the
best.

Seems Trump is bound to start a trade war. Placing
tariffs on our allies and friends is bad for our country. 
We need friends and allies. Trump should put tariffs 
on those who are our enemies instead. Trump and
the GOP will pay dearly if our economy falls into another
recession because of a trade war.

These tariffs will hurt small businesses like farmers. Many
of them voted for Trump. I  wonder if they still will if the
tariffs cause them to go broke?

President Trump is still wanting the attorney general
stop the special counsels investigation of him and his
campaign. Trump seems to think the AG is there to 
protect him. Well I have news for Trump the AG is 
there to protect the people of the country, not the
President.  Trump is  still pushing for an investigation
of H Clinton. This is nothing but a diversion. The GOP
has wasted millions of tax dollars investigating her finding
no evidence of wrong doing. Trump still thinks he can
independantly call for an investigation. This the job of the
justice department not his.



President Trump is claiming he didn't fire the FBI
director to stop the investigation of his campaign.
Even though he stated he did fire him for that
reason during an interview on TV last year.
 

Trump is using the presidential pardon to Benefit
himself. The power to pardon is for deserving individuals
convicted or wrongly accused of federal crimes.  Not for
 political reasons or as pay for loyalty. Those wanting
pardons should go thorugh a review process to prove
they are deserving. Trumps actions are showing to
be an abuse of power. Giving a  pardon to someone
who has admitted his crime is not deserving and Trump
knows it.

Some might wonder why I don't support President Trump. Here
is a short list of reasons.

He lies (over 3000 times so far)
He is a con artist.
He is a racist and a bigot.
He is abusive of women.
He refuses to stand by the oath he took as president.
He  fails to follow the constitution except when it favors him.
He feels the rich should be above the law. This includds himself.
He is immoral .
He wastes tax dollars.

I could go on, but  I think you can see my point. Many people
don't seem to care or want to believe anything bad about him.
Perhaps people see Trump as a champion of the white man.
I know some feel everyone worries about everyone but them.
This is short sighted as we can't let our fears decide who has
rights and who doesn't. It may seem unfair, but sometimes we
have to give minorities a bit of an edge since they haven't
the social power to be treated otherwise.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 02, 2018, 12:08:55 pm
President Trump spoke after meeting with the N Korean
spy master who was representing the leader of N Korea.
Trump was talking about how he liked the letter sent to
him even though he hadn't even read it yet. Somehow I
think the spy master had a laughing fit after meeting with
Trump. The man is likely a genius compared to Trump.

President Trump apparently feels rule by one man is
superior to a democracy. At least he embraces those
who are autocrats. It's true one man rule is more
efficient, but is rarely fair to those they rule. Down
through history kings and emperors have ruled. Some
did well others did not. The czar of Russia met his end
violently when the people tired of his autocracy. Along
with most of the royal family.

Rule by one man may work, but those who do generally
live in fear of being killed. I think Trump understands this
as he never gone anywhere without a body guard. Even
prior to his being elected president. Now he has free secret
service protection till he dies. It's okay of course, but just more
tax payer money for the Trump man.

Trump will likely meet with the N Korean leader, but hopefully
Trump doesn't give away the farm to get a photo op claiming
victory. In the past N Korea has made many empty promises
to get rid of sanctions or gain aid.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 03, 2018, 11:39:17 am
People may ask what Trump is doing, but that is easy to  answer. He
is doing all he can to get reelected and to get more republicans in
congress. It's all about him making money, and more money.  If
the people do better fine, if not fine. He cares only for those who
voted for him, and they better watch out because he will step on
them too if he can get away with it.

The Trump administration claims it isn't their fault if they can't find
the kids of immigrants. They also say we shouldn't worry  because
good people are caring for them even if they don't answer their phone.

I can guarantee if one of their kids was lost they would be doing more
than calling the last person who had them. If that person didn't answer
the phone they would have the police breaking down their door.

The other day Trump implied the job numbers were looking good an hour
before the official release. This gives stock traders (Trumps rich friends. )
a heads up to help them make a lot of money since they know good
numbers generally increases stock value. Anyone else doing this would
have been fired or likely thrown in jail.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 04, 2018, 12:24:41 pm
The supreme court allowed a baker to discriminate because he
felt creating a custom wedding cake for gays  went against his
religious beliefs. This is a sticky issue, but gays have just as
much  of a right to believe in marriage as anyone to disagree.
I think when a person goes in business they have to give up
some of their rights to the public at large. This should
include everyone.

Personally I wonder who paid all the legal bills to take the bakers
case to the supreme court? In some cases I have heard of political
parties paying trying to change laws to get votes. This should not
be allowed unless they are willing to pay all legal bills for both
parties.

Young people are still working to improve gun control laws. The
should be working on their parents as much as the politicians.
The politician will in many  cases smile and agree with you. Then
trun around an do the opposite. You need to check their voting
record and not just listen to their rhetoric. 

President Trump feels he can pardon himself. So if that was the
case he could theoretically break any federal law and walk free.
Perhaps to take millions or billions in tax dollars fror himself, or
even kill demonstrators outside the White house and walk free.

I know these are extreme examples, but it shows the founders
of the constitution would not have meant for the president to pardon 
himself.  This is why the president is immune to several laws. The
president often can't be held to all laws and still be able to do his or her 
job. It's up to the voters to decide if a president goes to far. If people
or congress ignores the improper use or abuse of power by a
president, they only have themselves to blame. A democracy
will only work if the people are willing to do their part by holding
those they elect responsible. Too many times the public only listens
to a politician without checking his record. Some vote for a politician
if he is a party member. Others because the politician brought money
to his district. Even if it was only to  get votes.

This is why some people feel a autocracy is better because the people
don't have to do anything but bow to the leaders whims. It's easy to
rule if you don't have to make deals and treat people fairly.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 05, 2018, 01:15:00 pm
President Trump tells the Eagels not to come to the White house. 
Apparently because most of them didn't want to be in a photo op
with Trump. So true to form Trumps ego rules and he tells them all
to stay home.

Perhaps the fans of the Eagles won't blame Trump, but then again
they might. The Eagles never knelt or stayed in the locker room
while the national anthem was played. It's all about Trump. He doesn't
like people to make him look bad. Especially minorities. Trump failed
to salute the flag or anthem, so I think it's all about getting votes.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on June 07, 2018, 03:27:59 am
It's well known that Trump and eagles don't get along.  :D


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 07, 2018, 11:50:52 am
I understand Trump has some big eagle statues in the white house. I
assume they aren't stuffed eagles. With Trump you never know as he
likes animal trophies.   So I guess the only kind he likes are the birds in
an image or statue he can pat.

I think the main reason Trump likes the military is because they have to
do what he says. Also a dictator who hasn't the support of the military is
lost.

Trump continues to run down the special counsels investigation. Seems to
me if Trump is innocent he would just let the chips fall where they may. It's
his own fault there is an investigation by firing the director of the FBI. Trump
is afraid he will loose support and never have a chance at a second term.

President Trumps tariffs may come back to bite him. Costs to Americans
are already pushing 15 billion in extra costs of foreign products. Trump
may add 25% to the cost of cars made in foreign countries. This will cost
many jobs of people who sell and care for these vehicles. It's also likely
countries will respond in kind for our cars and products. Costing even
more jobs due to loss of exports.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 08, 2018, 11:43:42 am
President Trump was asked if he was preparing ro his meeting with 
the N Korean leader. Trump said he didn't have to prepare. He feels
life has prepared him. He even claimed he won the debates with H
Clinton which he did not.  I have a hunch the N Korean leader will
lead Trump to think he had a great meeting with false promises.
It's the N Korean leader who has prepared all his life, not Trump.

President Trump continues to lie about how well he is doing. Claiming
there are positive changes in Iran where there is not. Claiming success
with N Korea before he even meets with the leader. Claiming success
in Europe when our relations are lower than since WWII.

I fear farmers and other small businesses will feel the crunch unless
these trade issues are improved. Trump seems to think world leaders
will bow to his bluster. They aren't so easily stepped on like individuals
buying real estate.

Trump is hurting our relations with other countries. He cclaims they are
taking advantage of us. Without our friends we won't get very far trying
to stop threats to our security short of war. 

Russia wants all this, they want Europe to break up. Putin knows
it's much easier to push a small country around than a large group
of nations. 

Isolationism is a terrible idea. People have tried this in the
past. Then we didn't need other countries like we do today.
We all live on one small planet. We need materials and
minerals that only exsit in other countries. Standing
alone will cost us the life style we have grown to enjoy.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 09, 2018, 01:00:23 pm
President Trump had his first news conference in over a year. It's
obvious why he doesn't have them often. He blamed Obama for
letting Russia invade Crimea. As if Obama should have went to
war with Russia.

Trump tried to  say the world needs free trade. This isn't possible
as costs vary around the world. The U.S.A. gave subsidies to the aircraft
industry for years, and air travel. Also to the railroad industry. This is done
to help national security. To give such industries a leg up in their beginnings.
Trump is trying to say other countries shouldn't do this. He tried say all
is well with the relations wit the European countries, tariffs and all.

Every time Trump stands up and tries to answer questions he lies
and makes up stories. This time wasn't any different. We have a trade
surplus of 12 billion dollars with Canada even though Trump tried
to claim otherwise. 

He is going to meet with the N Korean leader using his gut
as a guide.  It's hard to say how that will turn out. But I
fear it won't be good. Though I am sure Trump will claim a
big success. It's all about Trump, not our country or anyone
else. Trump is the greatest threat to our national security
since the end of WWII. The sooner his supporters
understand this the better off we all will be.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 10, 2018, 11:43:07 am
President Trump, or should I say Lord Trump? I sometimes wonder if
that is where we are headed with him. To hear him talk he is the
smartist man in the world. The best president we have ever had,  and
anything he doesn't want to hear is a lie or fake.

I fear something disasterous will have to occur to show Trump for 
the terrible person he is. He supports putting kids in cages with 
little or no care or bedding. Yet he still has support. He runds down
football players and still gets support. Allows thousands of
Americans to  die and claimes nothing is wrong. Lie after
lie and his supporters just say "All politicians lie".

People forget a president is for all the people not just those who
put him/her in office. Just l ike the speaker of the house should
be non partisan, but many only work for their party.

Trump appears to think the only good leader is a autocrat like Putin or
the leader of China. It's no illusion that Trump wants to run this
country as an autoocrat. He liekly will if the people keep the GOP
in power. They all cow to his rule.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 11, 2018, 11:45:40 am
Apparently President Trump is a fan of President Nixon. He has
now copied Nixon by bad mouthing the leader of Canada. 

Why? Apparently because Canadas leader told Trump he couldn't
push Canada around. We know Trump has to have the last
word. I personally tip my hat to the Canadian leader for standing
up to Trump. I am ashamed of Trumps treatment of our Canadian
friends, and European allies.

The meeting between Trump and the N Korean leader starts. The
N Korean leader was out touring the city while Trump is hiding in
his hotel room. I have a hunch Trump knows how this makes him
look. Likely pouting as he watched the scene on TV.

We can only hope Trump doesn't give away the farm tryinng to make
his meeting a win for him. This is all about Trump, I am sure he feels
a win here would guarantee a win in 2020 if he can claim peace with
N Korea and  promising to bring our troops home. 

If Trump makes a deal without total verification it's a lost cause. N Korea
has a habit of breaking promises, and will likely do so again. I hear it may
take a year or so before we even know that Trump was snookered.

If Trump truly succeeds in getting N Korea to get rid of it's nukes and
make peace with S Korea I will be happy to give him and the S Korean
President the credit. If a Nobel peace prize is given, it should be
shared by both the S Korean president and Trump.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 12, 2018, 01:48:32 pm
Well President Trump didn't give away the farm, but he is putting up
sale bills for it.

The N Korean leader had Trump wrapped around his little finger. 
All Trump got was a pig in a poke promise to talk. To get this much
our famous make a deal Trump agreed to not haveany more military
training exersizes. Another slap to those in the military by Trump.. The
 training cuts down on mistakes often made during a possible attack.
Mistakes that often get people killed. Trump parited the N Korean words
like "provocative, war games " The exersizes are defensive not offensive
claimed by N Korea.

No agreement to remove any missles or nukes. No agreement for
varification. Nothing to help stop suffering by N Koreans who
are held in the N Koreans terrible prison camps.

Now Trump is saying he will make excuses for N Korean if nothing is gained.

All Trump did was give a murdering dictator a photo op showing equality
with the United States.

I am sure many of Trumps GOP lackies will brag how good his meeting
with the N Korean leader was. I hope all is better than it appears, but
only time will tell.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 13, 2018, 11:55:17 am
President Trump is claiming he has prevented N Korea from
using their nukes. and will do away with them.

Sounds like a statement made in 1938 by a better man thaan
Trump. "Pease for our time." was made after a meeting with
Adoph Hitler. Here is a link where you can learn more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time)

I am not saying we shouldn't try to talk dictators out of doing
bad things, but we must accept what is real, not what we wish
to be so. Giving in to dictators just makes them more bold and
dangerous. Like all bullies, they test us to see what they can
get by with.

N Korea is already bragging about how big a win they had over
Trump. I wonder if Trump can handle the put down if it continues?

The  GOP senate continues to put judges in lifetime terms that
will likely shape the judicial system for many years to come. So
if your an minority, female, or gay it's likely your rights well be
seriously reduced. Even if the GOP looses the Senate this fall
they will continue to put conservative judges in office till the
end of the year.
Of 41 judges they have confirmed.
38 are white
2 asian
1 hispanic.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 14, 2018, 11:40:54 am
Well now it appears President Trump and family are being
sued for misusing their Charity. The very thing Trump accused
the Clinton's of doing. Perhaps that is why he did. People
sometimes compare others with them selves.

It's just more proof that Trump only cares about himself.

These holding centers for the kids removed from parents
letting the media to see how well the kids are being treated.
Only 2 out of a 100 so far. I bet those centers make sure
everything is clean and tidy before they let any outsider in.

Now the Trump administration is preparing to put these kids
in tent cities. That should be fun out in the hot summer sun.
Perhaps the government will put up water sprays for the kids
to stand in. I think we can be sure the media will be kept
away for the most part. I wonder how they plan to keep the
tents warm when the weather turns cold?

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 16, 2018, 11:31:01 am
Well the Trump administration is showing it's white nationalist
roots. Defending the immoral act of ripping babies from their
parents with religious quotes. This shameful act should have our
people in the streets. This could be your children in a future
America controlled by the far right. They would like to take
children away from Gays and anyone who speaks out against
their form of morality.

President Trump said he wanted to be treated the way the
N Korean people must treat their leader. Some how I don't think
most American would be willing to bow and scrape at Trumps feet.
Later he claimed this was a joke. Really? I think every time he
says something that gets a poor response, he calls a joke. It
sure didn't sound like a joke when he said it.

Trump is a autocrat wantabe. Sure single man rule is efficient,
but generally ends up being very unfair to many people. Such
rulers use their own beliefs to rule and punish. Trump and the
GOP leaders are money grubbers who only want to help their
rich supporters.

By the way those of you who are miltary retirees and those
who are disabled. Trump claimed he was raising money for you
when he was running for office. That was a lie. It wasn't untill
he was shamed by the media did he write a check for a million
dollars. Even yet little moneys raised has found its way to the
veterans who need it. Trumps only charity is to his back pocket.
He claimed to love those in the military, but when it comes down
to helping them he isn't around. Trump the billionaire hasn't
donated much of anything to anyone for over a decade.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 17, 2018, 11:27:57 am
After world war one many people felt they were disadvantaged by
minorities and immigrants. So fascism reared its ugly head.
America n the 1930's was filled with hardship for many people . High
unemployment fed fears that immigrants would take jobs. So when
Jewish children tried to escape fascism in Europe the US government
 sent them back to die in concentration camps. Now we are turning
people away who are only trying  escape being killed by gangs we
sent back to their country in the first place.
 
When world war 2 started the US government put Japanese Americans
in camps. Leaving their property unprotected. Even German Americans
were treated unfairly.

We are all immigrants or descendants of them in this country.  We should
feel shame when any one is treated like we are treating people trying to
escape tyranny  in their own country. Namely Latinos from Central and
south America.

The Supreme Court struck another blow to voting rights. They allowed Ohio
to remove people from the voting roles if they didn't vote for two years. This
puts a disadvantage agains the poor and minorities. 


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 18, 2018, 11:39:17 am
The immigration problem continues. Trump is trying to blame the
Democrats even though the GOP controls both houses of congress
and Trump is there to  sign any bill they may create. So Trump has
no legitimate excuse to blame the democrats. He  won't admit those
GOP who run congress won't agree to pass any bill he wants. It's
easier to just blame the democrats who won't help him.

The Trump administration is claiming the kids they are ripping from
their parents are being treated very well. They might be treated well
physically, but not mentally. Tiny kids are screaming and crying with
not even a offer of condolence by anyone. I don't know about anyone
else, but I can remember being that age. I would  have learned to hate
under these conditions. It's this time in ones life we learn how to care
and have sympathy for others.

All the Trump administration is doing is creating hundreds oif not thousands
of future people who will hate the united states. They may not even be able
to love anyone, much less care for others.  So if they come here as adults
they may be the criminals Trump claims all immigrants are.

We can lie to ourselves and say it's the parents fault. we can claim it's drug
dealers using kids to get across the boarder though this is extremeely rare.
Trumps lackies will use any excuse to support Trumps orders, no matter how
wrong or cruel they are.

Trump and his lackeys claim they are following the law, but it's nothing but
a policy created by the Trump administration. It has nothing to do with
a law. It's just Trump wanting to please the far right who voted for him.
There is no excuse to separated parents from their kids when they ask
for asylum in our country. Yet Trump wants it done.

Some may think they are supposed to respect the president, in the case
of Trump there is no cause for respect, much less the GOP.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 19, 2018, 01:23:31 pm
President Trump has likely grabbed a hornets nest by picking on
little kids. Yet he still continues to blame it on everyone but him self.
It's Trump who made the decision to seperate kids from their parents.
Even to send parents back to their country without their children.

I think if Trump is backed up to a wall and his people tell him he
has lost. He will changed his tune claiming he ihas to save the
children from the bad democrats. And his  supporters will
cheer.

Trump doesn't want the media to take pictures, he doesn't
want the media to see anything. He wants to hide this even
from those who support him. He knows video's would bring his
plans down along with him and the GOP.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on June 19, 2018, 01:45:22 pm
In other news.........

Donald Trump wants a 6th U.S. military force: the Space Force.
https://www.tmj4.com/news/national/trump-says-pentagon-directed-to-launch-space-force-branch-of-military
Seriously?  :o Sounds like more of a "Space Farce" to me.  :D

Need to say it, but we don't need a 6th military force for the United States. We've got enough problems in the U.S. (and/or the world) right now that need taking care of without having to worry about how the heck we're going to try and come up with another military force. We've already got the U.S. Space Command which is part of the U.S. Air Force. They already watch and handle any U.S. military space activities, so there's no need for more "duplicity" by creating another military space organization.
Where the heck are we supposed to come up with the money and materials to create another military force anyway? Oh wait, that's right, by cutting back on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Education, and other programs and services that Americans need.  >:( Way to go, Trumptard! What the hell does Trump expect? That we're going to get invaded soon by "illegal extraterrestrial alien immigrants"? So he wants to create another military space force to protect our solar system's borders?  :D

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 20, 2018, 03:44:21 pm
I heard about Trumps space force branch of the military. We already
have military satellites in orbit.  What I fear is this might trigger a
race to weaponize near space. Russia and China, and others
could decide to put nukes on orbital platforms which could trigger a
war at the slightest mistake or misunderstanding. Leave it to  Trump
to add to our troubles with his over sized ego. Trump never seems to 
consider the future, just at the moment. 

Trump used the word infestation when talking about immigrants from
Latin America. A word that refers to  cockroaches and other vermin.
Granted there are criminals in Latin America, but very few of them
have kids in tow. Kids require too much attention for most criminals 
to fool with. These people are humans not insects or animals.

As I said yesterday Trump finally felt the pressure to stop this separation of
family's. Now he is saying he couldn't let this happen anymore. Just as if
he just heard about it. So he will want to be the hero. Even though he
started the whole mess in the first place. He changed back to more like it
was under Obama. Time will tell how it comes out.

I have a hunch Trump got chewed out by his wife. No counting  GOP
members scared of loosing power.

The Trump administration is still trying to hide this even
though they were trying to say it was because of the law.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 21, 2018, 11:43:56 am
Oh now the GOP stands up for the kids. The crocodile tears are flowing
fast after Trump signed to stop the seperation of kids from their
parents.  A week earlier they had nothing to say.

President Trump all but swore he couldn't stop the family seperation,
then suddently he was able to do it.  Typical of this president to lies
every time he opens his mouth.

The Trump  administration is requiring military lawyers to act as
prosecutors to help convict immigrants.  None to defend them.
 Judges are  dragging 4 year olds into court. Even to say they are
smart enough to understand their rights  under our law. Such
judges should be impeached. and disbarred permanently.


Even though Trump signed an order to stop the separation of families, he
isn't ordering the reunification of the thousands of kids who have already
been separated from their parents. So they are still being held by the
Trump administration. Kids from babies and older. Leaving them to cry for
their parents who they may never see again. They may end end up in foster
care subject to who knows what kind of treatment. Foster care isn't always
a safe place for children.  Especially kids who may be mentally upset or
disturbed due to Trumps ordered  mistreatment. 


In reality the Trump administration is guilty of child abuse and child theft
if done by any individual or a care center would be prosecuted and tossed in
jail.

Trumps excuse? National security. Yes these kids are considered a danger to
our security.  The same clarion call that every generation wants to use against
immigration.
 
Oh and to those who think Trump is looking out for Americans. He hires
foreign workers to  work in his hotels and resorts. Over 99% of them.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 22, 2018, 01:07:30 pm
It's sad but we can't believe anything the Trump administration was to 
claim. They change their stories from hour to hour and day to day. They
want to hide everything. They won't let anyone see how they a re treating
the kids they separated from their paraents. Even the first lady supported
the president more than the children. She even wore a coat that said I
done care do you on the back. Trump tried to lie and say it was speaking to
the news media.

They won't allow any media or congressmen to see the kids,
instead they want us to believe the videos they give to us.
Videos that are obviously designed to show the public that
everything is fine and that the kids are happy. You can be
sure Trump was really upset (likely screaming like a 3
year old) when the audio of kids crying for their parents
was released. I actually heard Trump whining like a child
being told NO.during one of his speeches.

Not all of those told to take the kids wanted to do it, but if they didn't it would
mean they would be fired, and if they talked they could be prosecuted. Why?
Trump claims it's all about national security. It's more about Trumps security
than that of our country.

Now they are claiming they are returning kids to their parents in the hundreds,
but there isn't any real evidence to really prove it. It's likely just another lie.
The Trump administration is now trying to change a court ruling so they can put
kids under unlicensed unlimited care.

The Trump administration is spending 10's of millions trying to stop immigration
when they could be working to the cause instead. When we return dangerous
 criminals to a third world corrupt country it just makes the problem worse.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 23, 2018, 11:53:10 am
President Trump continues to call immigrants criminals and rapists. I think
Trumps right wing friends have convinced him that this is true. In the
past Trump was more of a democrat. Trump never seems to have any
policy of his own. It's always someone elses idea or desire.

Immigrants don't come here to to create lawless gangs. They want
a life of peace where they can have a family like the rest of us do.
As a group they are more lawful than any other group in our nation.

Seems every generation wants to claim this nation as their own. Even
though their ancestors came here as immigrants. In the 1850's it was
Germans, Chinese and Irish we were against, by the end of the 19th
century it was eastern Europeans. Now it's Latin americans. Our
country is one of immigrants. No one but  the indigenous American
Indians can call our land their own.

The far right is using Trump to their own ends. Trumps is a self centered
ego maniac who lives to be praised by others. The GOP didn't want him at
first, but found that he would follow their lead and sign on to their policies.
Now Trump under the control of the far right holds congress hostage.

I could call President Trump Evil, but it's not him that is evil it's those
who control him that are evil. Trump is nothing but a tool of the far right.
A group who's fascist ideas are pushing our country to abandon freedoms
for minorities, women and the LGBT.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 24, 2018, 11:55:36 am
Zero tolerance is what President Trump wants. To protect our
country from MS13. Turns out only one immigrant in 1000
has any ties to this gang. MS13 was started in this country and
moved them to  central American by the Clinton administration.
There they grew into a crime organization.

Immigrants have a legal right to declare they need personal
protection from oppression and murder. But Trump wants to
be re elected in 2020 so he will say anything to get his way.
Do anything to get his way even to seperate parents from their
children with his lies.

The far right doesn't want anyone but lilly white people to
settle in this country. It's n othing but biggitry and racism.
This is a last gasp because they know this country is moving
toward people with darker skin, and people who want a right
to love who they choose.

Trump tries to tell us that Latinos are criminals, but boarder
cities with Mexico are the safest in the country. Places that
have the greatest percentatge of Latin immigrants.

If we don't vote to curb Trump and his cronies we may
loose our rights. One party rule is a dangerous game. No
matter which party it is. History has shown one party rule
is distrouctive as it goes to far. Moderation is the only way
to rule.


The far right will want to tell us all what we can or can't
do. Just like conservative leaders around the world do.
Putin in Russia, China, N Korea, syeria, Iran, Saudi arabia.
I could go on, but people in theses counntryies only live at
the pleasure of their government. It could happen here even if
you don't believe it. Hitler took over Germany this way. Then had
millions killed because he didn't think they deserved to live.

Trump claims this is saving the goverment a lot of money. Well
the opposite is true. Millions are being spent. What used to cost
less than 100 dollars a day to hold immigrants now is over 800
dollars a day under Trumps zero tolerance. 

Apparently Trump sent his wife to Texas trying prove the media is
misleading Americans. To show the kids were happy and well treated.
If this is the case why is the government trying to  keep the media
from taking videos inside the holding areas for these kids?

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 25, 2018, 11:56:46 am
President Trump apparently doesnt care what the constitution says, instead
he wants to  rule by decree.  Every person in this country has a right to
adjudication by a court of law. No matter what Trump says or thinks.

Trump should be working to punish these Central American countries
for causing people to leave them, Not punishing those who feel they must
leave to survive.

Trump brags on the Harley Davidson company, but the company is moving
some of it's manufacture to other countries and laying off American workers.
Mostly due to Trumps tariffs.

Trump doesn't seem to understand that tariffs are the same as taxes on
Americans. We have to pay more for foreign products. I wonder if Trump
putting tariffs on the products his companies are manufacturing in other
countries But I kind of doubt it.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 26, 2018, 01:24:02 pm
Though President Trump is calling the supreme court decision a great
victory, they basically agreed the President has the right to protect
the country. Even if the President does more harm than good in the
process.

In short Trump as the right to be wrong. It's up to congress
and the courts to to decide how wrong he is.

The travel ban is nothing more than politics and
religious biggitry, but the loyal judge he put in
the supreme court didn't let Trump down.

Muslims like any law obeying citizen has a right to be
in this country. Even if Trumps supporters don't like it.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 27, 2018, 11:58:30 am
Isn't it odd the GOP, the party of law and order and economic
stability is driving the national debt skyward. The debt is
nearly 21 trillion and climbing fast with the massive GOP tax
cut. Now Trumps tariffs are slowing the economy, and if a
trade war ensues we are headed for a recession if not a
world wide depression.

We are hearing calls to harass cabinet members. This is the
wrong thing to do. It will just make Trump stronger. also it's
unlawful to threaten people.

The best way to deal with the Trump administration is to  get out
and vote the GOP out of power in both houses. Then we can hold
those who have been irresponsible accountable.  Including Trump
and his irresponsible cabinet. Even perhaps the VP too.


This doesn't mean we can't hold demostrations which is our first
amendment right. Shouting and holding up signs is our legal right.
If we allow the GOP and Trump continue to hold power they could
pass laws to restrict demonstrations. Even to say only a few people
can be in a group together. They will use the excuse its for security
or for public safety. Even to restrict  internet useage.

One might say this couldn't happen. Remember the old story of boiling
a frog in water.. Rights lost don't always look bad till they start stacking
up. Then it could be too late.

Trump still wants his wall. He doesn't seem to care that many illegal
immigration is with people hidden in trucks. Most drugs come into the
country in cars and trucks. Not throughth the desert as Trump tryis to
claim. Also even if they started to buld the wall Trump wants it would
take many years to finish. Then we would be busy repairing holes
blown in it by smugglers.  This  is nothing but a ploy to gain support
from his supporters who he has coned into thinking it is needed.

By the way all you union workers are under attack as well. The GOP
has got a ruling by the supreme court to say Unions can't require
union dues for politics or collective bargaining. It's likely they will
push for a national right to work law as well. The GOP leadership
hates unions and will do all they can to get rid of them

I fear this country is heading for riots if the GOP and the Trump
administration continue pushing to hurt workers and the public at
largge.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 28, 2018, 12:38:17 pm
Well President Trump told us he had a great meeting with the N Korean
leader. And that he agreed to get rid of his nukes. Yet 9 days after
the meeting sattlite photos show N Korea working to update their
Nuclear facilities. Trump has no deal for verification inside N Korea.
So they can make Trump look like the fool he is. Trump think if he
is nice they will be nice. It's no wonder Trump declared bankruptcy
four times. Trumps deals are as fake as he is. 

Well with the resignation of supreme court justest Kennedy the
court may go solidly conservative with the help of the GOP. Rather
odd since the GOP has always cried foul each time the court moved
toward liberalism. In the past they cried "Democrats are wanting to
pack the court."

Democrats nearly always put moderates in the supreme court,  where
the GOP puts conservatives. The court should have moderates who
work for fairness to all, not to please the rich and the far right. It's
not the courts place to create law. The supreme court is supposed to
decide if a law or ruling is constitutional, not to please any one group
or party.

Trump promised the evangelicals he would appoint supreme court judges
who would make abortion illegal to get their votes. This includes telling
Gays they can't marry, and it's okay for states to restrict voting by those
who might not vote for the GOP.

So get ready America, if your a minority, woman, or LGBT. It's uphill from
here on. If you want to keep your rights you must work to put people in
political office, state and federal who agree with your needs. The GOP
will only win if we let them by not voting.

In 2016 bearly 52% of Americans voted. A pathetic number. If it was
left up to me voting would be required just as serving on a jury is. It's
the duty of every citizen to vote. If we don't the rich and far right will
take over the country. Leaving us to beg for our lives. Think not? That's
how it is in a autocratic society.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 29, 2018, 12:47:04 pm
Private prison facilities are getting a windfall with Trumps Zero tolerance
policy. These companies that profit from imprisoning people should not be
for profit as this encourages cutting costs that means poor treatment for 
those they imprison. I wonder how well health and human services inspects
such facilities?

Stories are being reported of people having to sleep on a concrete floor with
nothing more than a thin space blanket. The facilitates often remind one of
detention centers used for POW's with Barbed wire topped fences and other
low cost ways to hold people. All this while they charge millions of dollars
for what they do.

These people also run state prisons and federal prisons. I think the whole
idea of running private prisons should be abolished. Even though it's denied
for profit businesses will cut costs every chance they get. The GOP has a
habit of wanting to privatize services even if it hurts people. They will
continue doing this as long as they are in power. The GOP is the party
of the rich and they prove it every day. This is why we see them cutting
taxes for millionaires, billionaires, and big business.

The GOP has for many years used tax cuts to get elected. They know
this will put the democrats in a position where they have to raise taxes
to pay for  public services. Then the GOP will turn around and say they must
cut these services to pay for a tax cut that is needed to help grow the
economy. It's nothing more than a game to help the rich get richer at
the expense of hard working Americans. People who deserve a safety
net that cares for them when then times are bad. The rich use the
excuse that people are supposed to plan for their future and they
the rich shouldn't have to help. Even though it's the worker who
helped the fat cats get rich in the first place. 

Trump continues to lie by saying the big tax cute was for hard working
Americans. It was for the billionairs and big business. Instead of investing
this cut in infrastructure big business has been buying back their stock.
Even though Trump claims otherwise. Trump doesn't mention the
thousands of people who were laid off by the same businesses who
gave out bonuses.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 30, 2018, 11:51:32 am
For many years the evangelical community has worked to reform Gays
and stop abortion. The leaders claim this is the wish of GOD and if we
don't stop these sins GOD won't protect our country. I have news for them
the people who built our nation were not all Christians. This country was
built on religious freedom not on any single theology.   

The followers of these leaders need to look under their halo's and cloaks.
They might be shocked to find out that they are power hungry people
only want to enrich themselves and their friends. This doesn't mean the
religion is bad, only their leaders who think little of the needy while
preaching against homosexuality and abortion. They use people
who feel Gays and Abortion is wrong to build support. While behind
closed doors they count their riches. They may have started out good,
but the love of money can corrupt even the best of us.


I suppose many people feel we need a conservative supreme court to
stop Gays and abortion. Well they best watch what they wish for. A
conservative court can go much farther than stopping Gays and women.
They can uphold laws that take your rights away with any excuse they
wish. The constitution won't protect anyone from the supreme court.

Especially with a congress full of yes men for a president who acts like
an autocrat. Once they have control they can put you in jail for anything.
EvenIf to take your precious guns. If you think this is just a bunch of
hot air on my part you only have to look at other countryes with autocratic
leaders and yes men in their law making body. Putin for one. China for another.
In the 1990's Chinas leaders murdered hundreds to stop a democratic
movement. These leaders had their bags packed because if they lost
there was a rope waiting with their names on it.

Once these people have control its very hard to stop especially if the military
decides to protect the leaders.

President Trump or any leader under investigation should notr be allowed
to nominate any judge. Because they can or will try to put people there
who will agree to protect them. Especially the supreme court as it has
the final word over all other judges, be they corrupt or not.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 01, 2018, 11:56:08 am
President Trump is saying congress woman Maxine Waters is asking
people to commit violence. This is a lie. It's Trump who teld people to
punch people out if they disagree. In his rallys he told his follower to
hurt people holding up signs that Trump didn't like.

Trump has come very close to telling people to hurt others unless they
support him. Not yet of course. He seems to know where the line is.
To encouraged the police to use rough treatment when handling
suspects.

Trump is trying to say the democrats want to get rid of the police.
This is another lie. They are going after the improper activities of ICE
who are treating immigrants like dangerous criminals. People who are
only asking for help and protection from criminals in their own country.
Countries with corrupt governments who won't work to protect their
own citizens from gain violence.

The Job of ICE is to go after those who are dangerous. Smugglers and
drug dealers. Where is ICE when drugs arrive from the far east? Where
is ICE when Asians over stay their Visa's? Instead they go after women
and children, block ports of entry from people asking for asylum. It's time
the agency is cleaned up and not be a political tool for Trump.

Trump uses fear tactics when preaching to his supporters. Telling them
anything he wants them to believe. Even using made up stories. . PT Barnum
couldn't hold a candle to Trump who is a professionalcon artist. When he
was in Russia he attended a meeting where he learned Russian policies and
found them to be to his benifit. If Trump destroys US alliencies around the
world we will be standing alone against China, Russia,and other autocratic
countries who will bleed us dry. Even with Trump gone it will take years to
restore them if ever.

It is true we need good relations with  countries like Russia and China, but
not at the expense of our beliefs and coulture. Autocratic leaders respect
strength and will smell a wimp like Trump in a hot minute. They know
all they have to do is smile at Trump and let him think he is a winner to
get anything they want.

You may not think Trump is a wimp, but I saw it when he met with the
Mexican president in 2016. During the press conference after the meting
Trump appeared to be afraid to say anything. Then during his next
rally he acted totally different. Trump can't even personally fire anyone
much less stand up to a foreign leader.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 03, 2018, 01:29:43 pm
Reports continue to show poor conditions for immigrants. Putting them
in cold rooms. ICE is claiming this will kill germs, yet they provide
little clothing or blankets. The people have to do with the clothing
they came with. Even if it's dirty.

This is barbaric treatment one might see in the 1800's. Trump or the
GOP have no shame. There are over 2000 children still in confinement.
Many of them cry them selves asleep wanting their parents.

Yet Trump still does little to reunite them with their parents. He has
said this is to convince them to not come to America. Trump is using
these children for political gain. An discussing act by the worst
president ever elected to the united states.

The GOP does little but try to protect Trump. They fail to stand by
their oath of office. Their oath is to the constitution not to
president Trump a man who cares noting for the constitution. He cares
little for the law when applies to him or his family.

The GOP claims they can't pass any bills that Trump won't sign. Yet they
passed many bills during Obamas term as president. Even though they knew
he wouldn't sign them. So the GOP is ignoring their duty for political
reasons. They and Trump are ignoring their duty to the country with only
their re-election in mind.

The president is for all the people not just for the GOP or his supporters.
Trump deserves to be impeached, but the GOP is afraid of his tweets. So
they let him and his cronies do whatever they want. Both Trump and the
GOP should be held accountable for not following the constitution.

How can we expect people to  respect laws when our leaders fail to follow
them. I think all those responsible should go to prison, but it's likely the
leaders of the GOP and Trump will never be charged. Since they appoint
the judges and make the laws.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 04, 2018, 12:01:35 pm
President Trumps plan to make America great again is for the rich, not for
the hard working citizen. His last pick for the supreme court proves this.
the Judge made decisions in  favor of big business over the little guy.
His next pick will likely continue this way of thinking. Also to  listen to
the Federalist society when picking a judge. He promised to do away
with women rights to abortion so we can be sure the judge he picks
will do it the first chance they get. I wonder if they had to promise
Trump to do this to even be considered.

Trump claimed he is a great writer, but he uses a ghost writer to
write any book that was sold with his name on it. Just more of his
lies.


It appears we have several GOP senators following Trumps lead in appealing
to Russia for better relations.  Even to act like Russias interference didn't
2016 election didn't exsist. A group of these senators met with Russia leaders
in Russia.  They weren't there to complain, but to figure out how the US might
get along better inspite of Putins attacks in Urcrane and helping Syria kill
it's citizens, including children.  Are these people American patriots or are
they guilty of treason as Trump appears to be? Russia didn't invite the
democrats or even allow their entry into Russia for some reason. 

President Trump continues to forgive leaders like Putin and others for
their actions with nothing in return but empty promises. Trump calls these
great deals, but it seems to me very poor deals. It's no wonder Trump
had all those bankrupties with deals like he is making. Only problem
he and the GOP are setting our country up for bankruptcy instead of his
businesses this time.

The longer Trump has been in office the more corruption is coming to light.
Trump was cozyiing up to the president of Malaysia who stole over 4 billion
in cash from his government. Saying how much he liked him. Even though
the man was under investigation by our own department of justice. We can
only wonder if Trump accepted some kind of bribe when talking to him.

It would be interesting to watch Trump finding a dollar laying on the floor.
It's likely he would either grabit or have a lackey grab it for him.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 04, 2018, 03:32:19 pm
Today is July 4th, Independence Day. While the public is out celebrating and shooting off fireworks, Trump is doing his own version of "celebrating" by claiming various political wins for himself and "shooting" off his mouth on Twitter and in his speeches.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 05, 2018, 12:42:42 pm
There you go Kobuk.. I have a hunch Trumps other end pops of
now and then too.  :D
==========================================

President Trump has already said he will lie to the American people
hoping to make us believe N Korea is reducing nuclear weapons even
if they don't.

If we were to hold President Trump to the same standards as
he was wanting presodemts held to during his campaign he would
be impeached immediately.

He said he would work to increase taxes on the very rich.
as his self.  He lied. He reduced taxes for himself and all rich people.

He said he would work to lower drug costs for thoe on Part D.
He lied. Prices have not gone down much less any sign of doing
so.

He said he would reduce the number of lobbyists in washington DC.
He lied as there are more that ever.

He said he would dry up the swamp in washingto DC.
He lied as there is m more corruption and wasted spending than ever.

He said he would make America Great again. Partly true. If your Rich
he has, if your a minority, a woman, LGBT, poor, sick, or
handicapped, he hasn't.

Now he and the GOP are working to build a conservative supreme court
which will likely take what rights the weakest of us have away. If your
white, rich and own a big business you can shout for joy. At least till
riots break out in our cities. The disadvantaged will only stand for so
much. The rich should remember what happened during the French
revolution when the queen told the poor to eat cake.

Trump is popular among GOP voters. Not surprising as most GOP
voters are reasonably well off or rich. They likely feel Trump will help
them stay that way with expectations of getting richer. Also many
feel the GOP supports law and oder along with having better moral
values. These feeling could errode Trumps support as he has shown
little respect for law and order, much less morality.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 06, 2018, 01:00:03 pm
Trump talks about how smart he is. So why doesn't he talk
to his supporters at his Rally? All he does is stand behind
a podium and act like a cheerleader. I wonder how many
people he hires to  start cheers and chants? We know he
did during his campaign. I  think he is afraid to let his
supporters ask questions. Questions that might embarrass
him. During his campaign if anyone shouted a question he
called them names and a disruptor. Even to encourage his
supporters to use violence to kick them out of the rally.
Trump just uses his rallies to stir up supporters. Not to
engage or properly inform them. Much of what he says
in his rally speeches are lies and innuendos. Even made
up stories. 

Trump is a lousy president but a fair entertainer and
con artist.

Billions in tariffs kicked in for China today. You can thank
president Trump for any and all problems caused by it.

Many farmers who voted for Trump will likely see drops
in sales for soybeans and other exports. Sadly some may
go bankrupt due to  Trumps illegal Harris.

Trumps dropping of the far east trade agreement gave China
control of the far east trade. Leaving the USA out in the cold.

Trump has decided to prevent people who have relatives in
countries considered security risk from joining our military.
The loss of these people  will limit language translators available
to our overseas troops. This is more of Trumps emigration hatred.
He wants to stop all immigration by dark skinned people even if it
puts our militry at risk. He uses the excuse they are a security risk
because otherwise the courts would stop him.

It's been almost a year since Puerto Rico was devastated by two hurricanes.
Still the American island is in need of serious aid for recovery. Even though
the Trump administration claims they did a great job of helping them. Now
aid from fima is running out. People who moved to the mainland are being
told by Fima their housing aid will end. Interestingly enough Fima is offering
to buy them a plane ticket back to Porto Rico. Sounds like Trump is wanting
them to leave the mainland because they look and talk different, and once
on the mainland they can vote. You suppose they would vote for the GOP
after how they treated their fellow Americans in Puerto Rico.  people?

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 07, 2018, 12:12:06 pm
Turns out Trump has had a love affair with Russia for many years.
He wants to buy and sell real estate throughout Russia. In the  late
1980's Trump was trying to buy his way into  the Soviet Union. Now
it's Russia. So it's no wonder he is kissing up to Putin. The problem
is Putin is a lot smarter than Trump. Trump wants to buy and sell the
world, but Putin wants to run it, and will use Trump to get  what he
wants.

President Trump is planning to nominate a supreme court judge
on July 9. It's likely he or she will be very conservative. This will put
many minority and womens rights at risk since this nomination
will make the supreme court conservative.

I find it hypocritical of the GOP to support making the cour this
way. Because in the past they were totally against makeing the
court liberal or even moderate. Some may feel we need to  stop
abortion. Well they may come to regret their wishes. A conservative
court can limit many more rights than abortion.

We should have a moderate supreme court as the founders assumed
it would be. They likely felt the Senat would make sure no radical
would be confirmed. They failed to see the creation of political
parties which have the ability to control the senate any the office
of the president. The Senate was supposed to be held by men of
reason,  not people who want power or money. The house was
for the will of the people.

The fact that barely 60% of the population votes is putting
our democracy in jeopardy. When you have such a small
percentage of the people voting allows a small percentage
of radicals to control the country. With only 30% the far right
can load both houses of congress and even the presidency.

With this control they can change laws to limit voting and the
rights of us all. So get out and vote unless you want one person
in three or four telling you want you can do.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 08, 2018, 12:26:17 pm
Reports are Trump plans to nominate a woman for the supreme court.
This would be fine except the only woman on his list is a cultist. The
cult she is in is an extremest group of women who believe women
should be subservient to their husbands, and to men in general. So
if appointed she isn't likely to support any women who feels
their husband has mistreated her. I guess she feels GOD created
women to be the slaves of men. I wonder how she ever got to be a
federal judge being enlaved to men.

Trump hired a man from Fox News to be his political news director.
This should be interesting as the man has no real political experience
except on Fox News. A news network that works like an attack dog for
Trump, and preaches the gospel according to Trump and the GOP.

President Nixon was heard to say that he needed a state news outfit to
give his side of the news. If he had one it's likely he would have escaped
impeachment.

I was talking last time about Trump being an entertainer. As a salesman
he knows how to capture an audience. This has little to do with how smart
the people are. Trump is using his knowledge of how people think to control
their thoughts. He mesmerizes them. It's almost like hypnosis as they almost
cheer on command. By the time it's over he has them feeling good and
wanting more. It's even easier to  work a audience when they are there
because they like you. It's like a stand up comic. People are ready to laugh
at almost anything if the man or woman is famous.

All good speakers/salesmen have this ability. Some make a lot of
money selling ideas to large audiences all the time.

All we have to fight this kind of control is the fact that almost 
 of the public2/3 of the public distrust Trump. Hopefully they will
vote in November.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 09, 2018, 01:08:57 pm

Trump is planning to meet with the NATO countries in a few days. He has
been complaining that they aren't paying for our military support. It's
true they haven't been doing their part since the early 1960's.  But trying
to shame them in public is a bad idea. Trump apparently thinks this will
help gain support from his voters. It may do that, but destroying our
alliance with Europe is a stupid idea. Russias Putin wants to see Nato
fall apart. He wants to restore the alliances that existed in the past with
the soviet union, and to regain it's power.


Already some of the NATO members are thinking about leaving the
alliance. Trump has made hints he may recognize Ukraines Crimea as
part of Russia.  Trump seems to think a smile and handshake with get
him anything he wants. Trump wants to remove all sanctions from Russia
with the excuse we need to be friends with Russia. This would be great,
but bullies like Putin rarely plan to have honest friendships.

Trump and his billionaire friends can afford to destroy allowances and
even the world economy while the rest of use starve and see our kids
die in wars of their making. This has happened in the past. The rich
and world leaders buy and sell us all.

Trump plans to meet with Putin one on one. Who can say what Trump 
may say or do. Putin knows what he wants, but does Trump? We know
Trump wants to put his name on the world, but Putin wants to be a
world leader. That's a dangerous combination for everyone else. 


The Trump administration is placing immigrant kids/toddlers in
front of judges. The judges sit in judgement of kids that bearly
know how to talk much less defend themselves. They have no
one to defend their rights for them. This disreguar of human
rights is discusting. Judges should refuse to take such cases in
the first place. Anyone who think this a good thing should be
ashamed.

President Trump isn't saying much if anything about N Korea calling
his negotiators gangsters. This was in response to Trumps men
trying to work out the removal of nuclear weapons from N Korea
including S korea. I think Trump is finding out his smiles and sweet talk
didn't acomplish anything, even though Trump promised to stop military
exorsize this summer in S Korea. I understand Trump still plans to have
the N Korea leader to this country later this year. Trump may try to
blame China if this all fails. We know Trump never takes responibility
for a mistake.

The Trump administration is working to stop women around the world
to not breast feed their babies. Why? To help big businesses self baby
formula in foriegn markets. More proof Trump cares  more about selling
than people. Few people in their world countries can afford to buy such
foods for their newborns.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 09, 2018, 11:02:42 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/politics/trump-supreme-court-pick/index.html

Quote
Kavanaugh has also suggested that presidents be shielded from civil and criminal litigation until they leave office, an issue that could be front and center as Trump faces the investigations by special counsel Robert Mueller and potential civil challenges.

I'll bet that was music to Trump's ears.  >:(  Probably one of the main reasons why Trump selected him I'll bet. We all know how Trump is constantly saying he did nothing wrong and constantly "whines" about how the Russia investigation should be ended and such.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 11, 2018, 11:48:52 am
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/politics/trump-supreme-court-pick/index.html

Quote
Kavanaugh has also suggested that presidents be shielded from civil and criminal litigation until they leave office, an issue that could be front and center as Trump faces the investigations by special counsel Robert Mueller and potential civil challenges.

I'll bet that was music to Trump's ears.  >:(  Probably one of the main reasons why Trump selected him I'll bet. We all know how Trump is constantly saying he did nothing wrong and constantly "whines" about how the Russia investigation should be ended and such.

Yes Kobuk, I am sure President Trump chose him as a friendly vote
in the supreme court.  Any person in political office should not be able
to nominate anyone who might have the power to protect them.

Trump continues to lie about NATO nations not paying their way.They have
till 2024 to catch up on any payments to the organization. Besides NATO is
cheap protection for the United States and it's current allies. After the
9-11 attack NATO members joined with us in going to Afghanistan. We
didn't even have to  ask them. No matter whatLying Trump says, we and
the world needs NATO. It's helped prevent another world war.

If NATO fails it's likely Putin will invade Ukraine and the Baltic states with
the excuse he is protecting Russian citizens.

People should get on the intternet. Go to government sites and find out
what the NATO treaty accually says. Don't believe anything else. The
internet is full of people with political interests. Including me. Accually
looking  it up in a book would be the best way to find out if Trump is
right or wrong. Don't pay any attention to his tweets. They are almost
all misleading lies.

President Trump is the greatest threat to national security since WWII.
Stand by Trump if you like, but by the time Trump proves how bad he
is to you . It may be too late. Trump is already trying to deny the fact
N Korea is still adding to its nuclear capability.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 12, 2018, 11:48:12 am
The GOP congress is guilty of harrassment of any whitness
that fails to  support President Trump. Watching the oversight 
committee chairman opposes any aqttemp to stop such
harrassment. Allowing such harassment should require the
removal of the chairman. 

Obviously the GOP are going out of their way to protect the
president from the facts. They are even trying to say the
FBI should do the same.

The GOP is trying to say if a person in the government has
a personal opinion of the president that doesn't agree with them
they should be fired or considered biased.

The attack on the FBI by the GOP is putting the people of our country 
at risk. At risk from criminals and terrorists as well.

The GOP and the president are afraid that the the special counsel is
going to prove Trump is guilty of impeachable crimes. So they are doing
all they can to discredit the justice system and the FBI. Hoping the
people won't demand Trumps impeachment if crimes are shown to
be true. Already several of those around Trump face court trials and
ten have plead guilty. The arrow is swing toward Trump and he knows it.


All this is hypocritical of the GOP who run down those they don't
like every day, and call it politics. Even to spend millions to investigate
people when it is politically motivated. This waste of money and
time will continue until the American people decide to put an end to it
with their votes.



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www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 13, 2018, 11:56:02 am
President Trump has created a first in Britain. The largest
protest march against any US President in history. I have
say Trump has earned it with his anti democratic stance.

Trump has done much to hurt relations with our democratic
allies. He has gone out of his way to speak nicely with most 
every autocrat around the world. If NATO fails Russia will
liekly try to move boarders in eastern Europe. It's countries
pushing other countries aroud that started WWII. With NATO
standing behind it's members countries like Russia isn't likely
to try incursions into it's neighboring countries. This is why
Russia didn't want Ukraine joining NATO.

Trump is using nationalisic feelings in our country to gain
votes for a relection in 2020. Constantly telling lies and
false stories every day. The man cares nothing for
anyone but himself and his family.

A dozen Russian  hackers have been indicted for illegal access
to computers to affect the 2016 election. No Americans thus
far. It's not likely Putin will send these men to the united states
for prosecution. Trump meets Putin in a few days. I doubt if
Trump presses this issue with him. In the past Trump just says
Putin said he didn't have anything to do with it, and that seems
to be good enough for Trump. Both well known for their lies.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 14, 2018, 11:53:09 am
Trump is in the UK right now. Shooting off his mouth about all sorts of issues and making himself look more like a fool than he already is.  >:(

Got to love you Brits. You sure can come up with some of the most brilliant ideas. Love the baby balloon of Trump! Nice play! Toddler in Chief for sure!  :D  :D  :D

(https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/07/13/bb1f80fb-9799-4886-b9ab-fea77231f3ca/resize/620xg8/0a8c78b59b6d6aebac4454981b6e5a35/trump-baby-balloon-ap-18194319302173.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 14, 2018, 11:57:32 am
"Puts dunce hat on the Trump Toddler."  :D


President Trump trys to lie his way out of a recorded interview
by the British press saying he felt the prime minister wasn't doing 
a good job.

Trump won't admit he isn't liked by the people of London. Instead
he blames the British government for this.  A poll shows only  11% of
the people of London like him. 89% would kick him out of Britain if
they could. 

Trump also says the US is paying 90% of the NATO bills. This is another
lie as the US currently pays 22%.  Trump also claimed to say he might 
pull out of NATO  if the other members didn't pay up. Another lie as the
French President reported that Trump did not say that in closed meetings.

Trump claims he got the NATO member to pay more. This is another lie.
The Obama administration who got the members  to increase spending
to 2% of their GMP by 2024. Not Trump.

The GOP controlled senate continues their irresponsible actions. They voted
to put a man with little or experience in charge of the criminal section of the
justist department. A man who could put an end to the special counsels investigation of the Trump administration if others above him were fired.
This man worked for a Russian bank in the past so he should have excused
himselfof any descians the Russian investigation, but he refused to do so.

The GOP congress continues to  claim the FBI tried to get H Clinton elected.
This is ridiculous as if anything the FBI helped Trump get elected. The GOP
and Trump have little or no respect for the US constitution and should be
punished for breaking their oath of office. Unfortunately only the voters can
do this. So only time will tell.

I think the reason people support Trump is that they are afraid. During
Obama the country moved a bit towar the left. Minorities, and the LGBT
gained more rights. Many people fear people who look and act different.
Many people consider homosexuality a perversion and a sin against
their religion. Religion has no place in our government, but many people
feel it should at least guide goverment in it's laws and practice. The
trouble with religion is how it's interpitied. One persons rights is another
persons idea of a sin.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on July 14, 2018, 03:49:57 pm
Trump is in the UK right now. Shooting off his mouth about all sorts of issues and making himself look more like a fool than he already is.  >:(

Got to love you Brits. You sure can come up with some of the most brilliant ideas. Love the baby balloon of Trump! Nice play! Toddler in Chief for sure!  :D  :D  :D

(https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/07/13/bb1f80fb-9799-4886-b9ab-fea77231f3ca/resize/620xg8/0a8c78b59b6d6aebac4454981b6e5a35/trump-baby-balloon-ap-18194319302173.jpg)



It's even more hilarious when you realize that in the UK "Trump" means "Fart".
And I think we ought to adopt that slang because right now our president is just hateful cloud of noxious gas that is claiming to do good but in reality kills everyone who comes in contact with it.
Trump IS a horrible smelly fart of agent orange. :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 15, 2018, 12:02:47 pm
Yes it seems anytime Trump touches anyone they start
acting the same as he does. They start lieing about everything 
and anyone who isn't for Trump. It's almost as if he threatens
them somehow if they don't give him their total loyalty.  Just like
a mob boss. Only Trump is more like a spoiled rich kid who is 
used to getting everything he wants. It's been reported he has
temper tantrums when he doesn't like a news report. I heard
president Nixon was the same way..

The GOP should be telling the states to upgrade their voting systems
to protect against foreign attacks. Instead they are griping about the
investigation of Russia helping Trump. They are trying to  say why
talk about Russia? After all they helped us take power. I can guarantee
if the shoe was on the other foot they would be raising holy heck if
the democrats didn't work to stop foreign attacks on voting. Trump
has tried to blaime the Democrats for allowing their servers to be
hacked. As if the Republican servers weren't. They were attacked
as well. The difference is their information wasn't released to the
public online.

Trump always claims his gut is smarter than anyone else. I wonder
where his gut was when he met with the N Korean leader? Even
though Trump claims N Korea is going to get rid of its nukes they are
still adding them. I hope Trumps Gut does better when he talks to
Putin. Actually I think Trump is more interested in helping Trump than
the United States. This is why the meeting should be recorded as well
as all communications with Russia's leader.

Trump was complaining about Germany paying Russia billions for energy,
while we pay even more to Saudi Arabia for crude oil. I think Trump is
trying to get Europe to buy our natural gas. Gas we would have to
liquefy and ship across the Atlantic ocean. We should keep the gas for
our own use, not selling it to other countries. Selling it would make it
cost more for Americans. Why? because selling massive amounts
would create a shortage, and they would use that as an excuse to
raise the price.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 16, 2018, 12:11:19 pm
President Trump and Russia's Putin met in Helsinki, Finland. According
to the Russian media it lasted 2 hours. The Trump administration hasn't 
told us anything yet. We do know Trump didn't want anyone but Putin
and translators in the room.

Why did Trump want a private meeting with Putin? For all we know
Trump got down on his hands and knees begging for something. Not
likely of course, but without anyone to record the meeting Putin and
or Trump can claim anything. It's likely Trump was afraid others might
find out how he cows down to powerful leaders. Trump has told Russia
US secrets in the past. Could that be why Trump wanted a private
meeting? We know Trump loves to brag, so he might tell Putin something
that could hurt our national security by accident or hoping to trade it
for some kind of win.

Another consideration is since Trump has a history of borrowing hundreds
of millions  from Russian banks. Could it be he was trying to broker a deal
for himself and family? Trump ran for office promising to work for our
country, but so far he has done more for himself and family than American
citizens.   

During the press confer3ence following the meeting Trump admitted he wants
to sell natural gas to Europe. One wonders since only one gas company would
benefit.  How much did they give Trump during his campaign? The question
was asked about Russias interference in the 2016 election. Putin denied
any interference of course. Trump put the blame on the Democrats. Saying
they caused it by not protecting their data, and the whole thing is partisan
and fake news.  It seemed Putin and Trump were working together trying
to deny any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. Trump ended
the question with "I ran a brilliant campaign and that's why I won."

The news conference lasted for some time. I got the feeling Putin and
Trump had preplaned their answer's. The way Trump acted in this news
conference should get him impeached. Trump acted like Putin's puppet.

Putin all but bragged about how great a president Trump is.How much
more proof do  people need that Trump is working for Russia? Or is
Trump just totally scared to confront Putin?

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on July 16, 2018, 01:47:40 pm
I like to imagine Trump cowed down to Putin. He's used to running businesses and corporations and thinks he can run the US like it's a business, not realizing that the stakes are much much higher. If a national leader wants something done strong enough they send in the army
If Putin does another invasion like he did in the Ukraine I doubt very much Trump will step up and stop him.
Maybe it's cause they're working together or maybe it's cause Trump has no idea at all what to do when someone actually puts a loaded gun to his head and shouts demands.

The annoying orange thinks he can run the US like a business. He has no idea how real, genuine politics works. He's a businessman, he's not a politician, And I'll go even further to say he's a bad businessman who has tanked a number of things he's tried doing. Remember Trump University? Trump Airlines? Trump Steaks? How about Trump Vodka which he made to compete against Grey Goose Vodka but failed miserably because nobody wanted to drink it.

And those are just a few examples.
Now it's time for the country as a whole to bear the mark of failure as all those projects of his...
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 17, 2018, 01:38:56 pm
I like to imagine Trump cowed down to Putin. He's used to running businesses and corporations and thinks he can run the US like it's a business, not realizing that the stakes are much much higher. If a national leader wants something done strong enough they send in the army
If Putin does another invasion like he did in the Ukraine I doubt very much Trump will step up and stop him.
Maybe it's cause they're working together or maybe it's cause Trump has no idea at all what to do when someone actually puts a loaded gun to his head and shouts demands.

The annoying orange thinks he can run the US like a business. He has no idea how real, genuine politics works. He's a businessman, he's not a politician, And I'll go even further to say he's a bad businessman who has tanked a number of things he's tried doing. Remember Trump University? Trump Airlines? Trump Steaks? How about Trump Vodka which he made to compete against Grey Goose Vodka but failed miserably because nobody wanted to drink it.

And those are just a few examples.
Now it's time for the country as a whole to bear the mark of failure as all those projects of his...

I  couldn't agree more Kay. Trump is a bad businessman and he is trying to  run
the country like a business.  Also he like many people with little knowledge of
politics thinks all problems can be fixed with the stroke of a pen.

Autocrats like Putin can lead people like Trump around by the nose. They know
how far they can go befor starting a serious conflitct. I think Trump is scared if
heseriously  confronts Putin he might start a nuclear war. It's not likely Putin
would wantto be the head of a country laying in ruin. Much less the cause of it.

Bullies like Putin will keep pushing if you don't stand up to them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 17, 2018, 10:03:52 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/17/politics/trump-backtracks-russia-remarks-transcript/index.html

Quote
So I'll begin by stating that I have full faith and support for America's great intelligence agencies. Always have.
^ What support? I sure as hell ain't seeing it from Trump.  >:(

 And I have felt very strongly that, while Russia's actions had no impact at all on the outcome of the election, let me be totally clear in saying that -- and I've said this many times -- I accept our intelligence community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place. Could be other people also; there's a lot of people out there.

What an imbecile!  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 18, 2018, 12:00:29 pm
It seems President Trump thinks we are all idiots when he claimed he
mis spoke "would for wouldn't" If he had really done so he would have
corrected it immediately not a day later. He tried to say he hadn't seen
the transcript of his remarks till the next day. I am absolutly sure he
was told most strongly on the plane ride home how  big his mistake
was.

When he was on Fox news when he returned to Washington DC He could
have reversed his self at that time, not the next day. It's reported the
vice president and the secretary of state sat down with Trump and worked
out the excuse for Trump. Even when he read the prepared remarks he ad
libed that he stillfelt it could have been others instead of Russia.

The whole press conference by Trump was incoherent. While Putin
spoke to the point Trump just rambled from subject to subject.  He
didn't even answer some of the questions trying to shift the blame
to the democrats and H Clinton for the hacking.

There are reports that cheif of staff Kelly got on the phone and told
repbublicn they should tell Trump that he should clarify himself, apparently
hoping this would get Trump to  back up and change his comments not
supporting the United States over Russia. Even when Trump did it was
half hearted.

I think we all noticed how quick the GOP changed after Trumps so called
clarification.  They are starting to make excuses for Trump instead of 
standing up for our country. The GOP cares more about holding power
than the United States of America.

Trump supporters say they like Trump because he is outspoken and is
strong for our country. Sure didn't sound that way last m onday. Trump
acted more like a whipped oup instead of a strong leader.  He evensaid
Putin strongly denied  hacking our election. Like he shouted Trump down
during their private meeting.

I first noticed this meakness in Trump during the news conference after
he met with the Mexican President. Trump is only strong when he feels he
is in control. Otherwise he is very weak. It's a fact he hasn't the nerve to
fire anyone personally, unless the person is a whimp. Sure he sounds
strong in his rallys where the room is full of supporters. Even then when
someone stands up to him he has his supporters toss them out. He is
afraid to debate them in fron of his supporters.

I really doubt that NATO can't depend on Trump if Russia invades any
member of NATO. They best start building up their own defenses.

The USA will be standing by it's self if congress fails to limit Trumps actions
over the next few years. I wonder if we will every find out why Trump
submits to Putin from the start of his campaign. Trump continues to claim
he has been very tough on Russia. More than any other president. This is
ridiculous, could it be Trump really believes it? If so we are in the hands
of a man who is loosing his mind. 

Those in Russia look at Trump like he is a fool since the meeting with Putin..
Back turning Trumps campaign Putin remarked that Trump acts like a clown.
Trump at the time tried to say Putin was praising him.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on July 19, 2018, 02:56:16 am
Trump continues to claim
he has been very tough on Russia. More than any other president. This is
ridiculous, could it be Trump really believes it? If so we are in the hands
of a man who is loosing his mind.

It's a well known tactic of Trump to make an outlandish statement that he's doing something better than everyone else.
It's a tactic that's served him well in his business dealings and it works against the more simple-minded citizens who would rather just switch their brains off and bring in a president who won't ask them to think about political issues.
Just listen to this crap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA631bMT9g8

And it really upsets me this whole mentality of "Can't someone else do it?" when it comes to politics.
My own dad gets mad at me when I try to bring up politics. He asks a question about why gay people want marriage, or why the Black Panther movie talks about racial issues. Then when I try to answer him he shuts me out. Because he doesn't want to think about the political structure of the country. H doesn't want to acknowledge that the political landscape affects him. He just wants to sit in his room, he and my stepmom, watching tv, and sit in their little bubble and pretend the world outside doesn't exist.

And I see his attitude in a lot of people. People who want the politicians to run things for them so they can sit at home watching their reality tv and pretend there isn't a world beyond the town they live in.
Nearly all of them will never leave their towns in their whole lives. Most of them won't even ever get the chance to step outside of their states so why should they think about the world beyond their front door if they never see it?

(On a side note if I had some god-like power to make something mandatory for all people it would be that every person on earth must spend a minimum or two years traveling abroad, visiting other countries and seeing the world. Every person on Earth.)


Quote
Those in Russia look at Trump like he is a fool since the meeting with Putin..
Back turning Trumps campaign Putin remarked that Trump acts like a clown.
Trump at the time tried to say Putin was praising him.

It isn't just Russia. Countries all over the world have made their own parodies about Trump.
I won't link it here because of the language but look up on youtube "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver" and go to time index 4:05 where Oliver shows just a handful of parodies that other countries have made about Trump.

Trump, and the US by proxy, is a joke in the eyes of the world. Trump got into office with the slogan "make america great again" but he has done the exact opposite.
Obama tried very hard to raise the US' standing and image in the world and maybe if the republicans hadn't held him back so much he could have done more than baby steps. But whatever progress Obama made to make america look decent to the world has been destroyed by our electing a man who is so outlandish, so loud, so selfish, and so ill-equipped for office that he's like a cartoon character. Like an american stereotype as seen in japanese anime that has come to life.

And now I'm going to stop because I feel like I'm just rambling and fear I may have completely lost whatever point I was attempting to make.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 19, 2018, 12:44:45 pm
I understand Kay. It's so sad that people become so set in
their ways they can't acept changes in society.  It's not that
they are all bad people, I think most really feel they are doing
good. This is why we are supposed to have people in government 
that look past emotion to do the right thing.

I really don't know what will change them except a disaster of
some kind. The Great depression changed a lot of people then
again it didn't change others. It's sad, but many people like
to place blaime on anyone but themselves.

Trump is a lousy businessman, and doesn't understand world
politics. But he understands how to manipulate a large percentage
of people. He is a professional actor, and salesman. A man who
probably could sell a furnace to those living on the equator.
A Charismatic  person who understands the human psyche can
sell almost anything. Just look at the various cults and religions
around the world.

If President Trump actually cared about making this country
great for anyone but the riches Americans. He could be a
great president. Unfortuantly he is a man who
care nothing for anyone but himself, and is oversized
ego is dragging his presidency down and likely the
whole country eventually. down.

Sure the economey is doing fine, but his tarrifs
and bad trade deals will put an end to that.
Obama left with a growing economy. The GOP
and Trump have tied their wagons to it. So
when it does slow down or crash it will take
them with it.
History has shown tarrifs hurt the economy. It
was one of the big causes of the great depression
along with a overgrown stockmarcket.
Sound familiar? Time will tell.

Trump has supported Putin from the beginning. What
ties Trump to Putin? Trump hides his tax returns.
 What secrets do they hold? Congress could get them
but they seem to be afraid of what they might find.

Trump is considering sending Obamas ambassador
to Russia because Putin wants to question him. It's
likely Putin wants to imprison or kill him. The man
has been under threat by Putin for some time. Sending 
this man to Russia could be a death sentence.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 20, 2018, 12:08:58 pm
Trump continues to call the media fake news. He uses this ploy trying
to coverup his misdeeds, and mistakes. Trump stacks lie upon lie trying
to keep himself and his family out of trouble.

Trump is mad at his CIA director because he didn't stay loyal to him during
a interview by NBC. It's possible Trump is looking for a replacement. This is
the same guy that told him the Russians hacked the 2016 election.

Trump has invited Putin to  Washington DC this fall. Even into the
white house.  We can only wonder what secrets Trump may expose
to the Russian leader.

I have heard some Trump supporters say Trumps a man who understands
the little guy.  Do they really think a man who never had a day in his life
where he had to do without, could have any idea what it's like to work
for a living? This guy started out as a multi millionair. It's likely all he had
to do as a kid was to crook his finger and his wish was granted.

People like this have no idea what the average person goes through to
make a living. He may have some idea told to him by friends or by
watching TB, but no real life experience. The kind of experience that
it takes to give one a true understanding of the real world. He like many
rich people feel poor people to be lazy bums that want everything
given to them.

This is why many  in the GOP want to get rid of social programs.
That and to lower their taxes.  They lower taxes then when the
democrats take power they have to raise taxes to cover the
deficits  caused by the GOP's tax cuts. The GOP turns around and
blames the democrats and social programs for higher taxes.

The GOP keeps this going in circles to help them stay in power or
return to power. Just  like they don't want to fix the immigration
problems. They want to use it to help get elected.

Politicians couldn't get by with this if the public would pay
attention to  what their public official do, and vote them out
for such activities. Instead many people listen to their half
truths andlies when they run for election. People shouldn't
vote for someone because their friends or family want them
to. Women shouldn't listen to their husbands on how to vote.
This happens a lot unfortunately.

I see an ad where a man is running for US senate as a republican.
This is well and good, but he is saying his democratic opponent is
too rich to understand our needs. This is so hypocritical when his
party stands behind a billionaire as our president.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 21, 2018, 12:47:38 pm
The GOP and Trump both seem to be avoiding any support to
prevent attacks on our election this fall. They voted to cut
$300,000 in aid to  help state and local officials prevent
such attacks. The Democrats tried to restore it, but the
GOP prevented it. To me it looks like the GOP is hoping
the Russians will help them again this fall. If true they should
be held responsible for breaking their oath of office. 

The other day an unfortunate accident happened that cost 17 lives. 
An amphibious boat was caught out on a lake during a violent
storm and sank. I only bring this up to say the Democratic
US senator said we need to see that these boats are properly
regulated to help prevent this from happening again. Once
before such a tragedy occurred and was found the cover that
protects occupants  from sun and rain was a big cause as it
prevented people from escaping. This was ignored and and it's
removal during lake crossings wasn't required by law. This top
apparently caused several of the deaths this time as well.  A
republican senator opposed making any regulations waiting to
find the real cause that might take a year.. In the meantime the
boats will likely operate as before. The GOP as usual are anti
regulation even when it puts the public at risk. Especially if it
might cost a big business a lot of money.
 
I know Trump says we need to be friends with Russia. I agree,
but not at the expense of our rights. Trump doesn't care about
peoples rights as long as it doesn't affect  him. Many of the
rich down through history have only delt with the masses
when they had to. Otherwise they are ignored and left to
suffer and die. If you think Trump is different I fear your in
for a big surprise.

It seems many of Trumps supporters think the right to own 
firearms exists in Russia. They best think again. To have any
firearm in Russia requires permits, licenses, and registration.
Not just for the weapon, but any and all ammunition as well.

Nearly all firearms that are in the hands of Russians are those
for hunting animals. The last thing Putin and his cronies want
is a population with weapons they could use to overthrow the
government. I doubt if the military foot soldiers  have any
ammunition until they are ordered to use it.

Trumps supporters should keep this in mind when they see
Trump cozying up to Putin. If we loose our democracy it's
very likely leaders that follow will go after our firearms. For
the public good of course. I am sure most would feel they
could prevent it, but such a government would get them, even
if it took years.

A recording of Trump talking about payments to a porn star was
revealed. If it says what was reported it shows Trump has been
lying about his relations with the porn star, and the money as
well. Trump apparently didn't report this on his campaign spending
report. So he might be guilty of breaking campaign laws, and
perhaps other laws that affect money handling.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 22, 2018, 12:13:49 pm
There are reports the NRA may have been used by the Russians to
help Trump in the 2016 election. The Russians apparently sent the
NRA a lot of money to help the Trump campaign. This would be
illegal if it can be proved. A Russian woman who may have been
 involved is in jail. Her lawyers are trying to  get her out of jail.
Only trouble she is likely a flight risk as there is strong evidence
that she is a spy.

The FBI sent the GOP proof of why they were watching  the Trump
campaign due to Russian activities.  The GOP has for months
claimed the FBI improperly watched the campaign. Will the GOP
back up and admit their misdeeds? I imagine they will come up
with an excuse though. It's just more of the GOP's dirty politics.

The Trump administration has only reunited 450 kids out of over
2000. They are using the excuse many of the parents don't deserve
them. Kids are still being held in cages in spite of Trumps lies.
People that support this terrible thing are shameful in my opinion.
Most of these people were trying to escape death, and all Trump
wants to do is send them back to die. This isn't the first time our
government has treated immigrants like this. We turned a shipload
of Jewish kids back in the late 1930's to die in German concentration
camps. I could be wrong, but I have a hunch the GOP was
responisble for their return.

This country was created by immigrants, and should support those trying
to make a better life for them selves and family. It's this disire that has
made our country great in spite of those who think otherwise.

It appears Trumps sucking up to Putin cost him about 15% of his supporters.
At leas temporarily. Even Trump Fox News was in a quandary wondering
how to support their boss. Even the Fox network saw a fall in viewership
causing them to run in circles for a time. 

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 23, 2018, 12:02:05 pm
Trumps ex campign manager Paul Manifort is going to trial this week. He is
being charged with multiple offenses and ties to  Russia. He could get 10
years in prison if convicted. Of course his old buddy Trump might pardon
him. 

The GOP and Trump continue to brag about their big tax cut. They talk about
all the bonuses and pay raises people are getting. Yet in Tennessee only 2% of
workers got a bonus and or pay raise. Most of those who voted for Trump aren't
getting any real benifit out of the tax uct. The Rich and big business is doing
very well because of it. The GOP claimed that businesses would use their big tax
cut to raise pay to workers, but most  have used it to buy back stock from
investors or give big bonuses to management. They can continue to lie about it,
but I imagin those who  aren't doing well will vote for change.

When Obama was trying to get the fed to lower interest
rates Trump was complaining, and saying it was a bad thing.
Now Trump is wanting the fed to lower interest rates.  Just
more proof hat Trump is a hypocrite.

If the GOP keeps control after the 2018 mid term they will
try to change or get rid of social programs. They want the
states or local governments to have control and pay for them.
The GOP wants to get rid of big government because they
believe in bottom up regulations and laws. This doesn't work
because big business can intimidate local or state governments.
This is why big business supporters of the GOP want these
changes. Only a strong central government can stand against
multi billion dollar corporations.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 24, 2018, 01:30:47 pm
President Trump threatens to remove security clearance from
those who have been giving him a hard time. Trump apparently
doesn't like it when people tell the truth about him. I guess he
wants them to agree with his lies. This response shows how
petty Trump is. Just like a little kid that stamps their foot when
they don't get their way.

Trump tweeted a threat to Iran the other day. Trump complained
that Obama was planning to start a war with Iran to win the 2012
election. Now Trump like the hypocrit he is is wanting to  start a war
with Iran to get votes. He knows his support is slipping and fears
a GOP loss in the mid term election. Starting a war would likely
help Trump and the GOP stay in power. Just think Trump will send
our young people out to die just so he can stay in office. 

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 25, 2018, 11:45:56 am
President Trump claims to be transparent, but continuously lies and
keeps secrets from the people. Not because of security for the nation,
but for Trumps security. In the news conference following Trumps
meeting with Putin, Putin said he wanted Trump to be president.
Yet the Trump administration tried to say Putin didn't say it. We can
only wonder what else was said that Trump wants to stay secret.

Trump said in a rally "Don't believe what you see and read. Just
listen to me." I paraphrased it, but it's what he wants his supporters
to think. He wants to put blinders on his supporters, and lead them
blindly with one lie after another. Last I heard Trumps lie count is
over 3200.

Trump says he will make 12 billion dollars available to help farmers
who have been hurt by the tariffs.  What about businesses who have
been hurt by Trumps tariffs? Will he help them too? Most farmers don't
want a handout they want to sell their produce. Seems Trump always
finds money to buy votes with , but none to help the needy or our 
American citizens in Puerto Rico. They are still suffering from hurricane
damage of last year.

If Trump continues to push his tariffs many small businesses and farmers
will loose their shirts. Trump knows how to manipulate people, sell houses, 
and buildings, but very little about anything else.

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www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 26, 2018, 11:59:23 am
President Trump claimed he has made a good deal with the EU. Turns
out he just returned to what Obama was trying to do when he was in
office. With the EU at least. During his campaign he misled his supporters
that we must punish those countries that were being unfair with trade.
What he didn't say was that Obama was already working to improve
trade equality.

Trumps tariffs are nothing more than a tax on Americans. We end up
paying more, and if other country add tariffs in response we pay even
more, and more. All to please Trumps base. People that continue to
support a man who is only interested in making money in office. His
cozing up to Putin is likely so after he leaves office Putin will allow him
to buy and sell real estate in Russia and it's territories. Or to borrow
millions from Russian banks. I really doubt Putin will give Trump
much of anything after he leaves office. He might even expose Trump
as a Russian puppet.

During the press conference after the meeting with Trump Putin said
he wanted Trump in the white house and told his people help him win.

The Trump administration was supposed to have all of the immigrant
children returned to their parents by today. Still almost 1000 have not.
The Trump administration is trying to make excuses saying many of their
parents are unfit or out of the country. Crocodile tears if you as me. Trump
doesn't care about the immigrant children or their parents.

All this is making many in the GOP controlled congress nervous. Some are
actually speaking out against Trump. Just election jitters I am sure. The tea
party crowd brought impeachment charges up for the deputy attorney general
because he wouldn't supmit to their ilegal demands, trying to discredit the
special counsels investigation of the Trump campaign.

Trump had said he invited Putin to visit him in the white house just before
the midterm election. Seems Putin didn't have the time to visit. The GOP
didn't like the idea either. So Trump backed up and said he will plan it
for the holidays. Perhaps Putin is worried that we might keep him. I am
sure Trump would make sure Putin got a royal treatment. First class all
the way.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 28, 2018, 12:00:22 pm
President Trump is starting to claim the Russians are going to help
the democrats win during the midterm. Why? So he can discredit
any win they may have. Including a take over of the house of
representatives. A win there would stop Trump in his tracks. He
will have to deal with investigations on his activities wither he
likes it or not. I am sure the GOP will cry bloody murder while
their buddy Trump has to deal with the truth for the first time
in his life. 

I am sure Trump will reach out to his supporters, telling them how
bad the democrats are. Claiming they are keeping him from making
America great again. If his suppoorters stand in the streets and
act the same way they do in rallies, will there be a clash between
them and those who don't support Trump and his cronies?

If this was to happen it's likely Trump would stand behind his
supporters and against those who don't support him. It's
not very likely riots would occur, but if they did Trump could
call out the national guard, and possibly declare marshal law.

As improbable as this sounds it's how Russia deals with those
who don't support the government. Trump has followed Russian
ways in several of his actions. As if Trump is asking Putin how
to run our country.
 

Seems there may be evidence that Trump knew about the meeting
with the Russian that was going on under his feet in Trump Tower.
Though Trump has claimed he didn't know about it, history has shown
Trump is a micro manager. Nothing goes on with his business that
he isn't aware of. People who work for Trump would be in big trouble if
they broke this rule. Also Trump promised his supporters in a rally he
was going to make a big report on H Clinton just before the meeting
occurred.  The promised info about H Clinton never happened.
Apparently because the meeting turned up nothing about H Clinton
after all.

Where did the tea party go? They were shouting with anger to the
sky when Obama was wanting to help homeowners who were caught
by bad banking practices. He was trying to pull the nation out of the
recession that was started by the GOP allowing banks to make bad
loans. Where are they now when Trump wants to spend 12 billion to
save farmers from his tariffs. Where are the small government activists
in the Tea Party now?

Or did the Tea Party which had racist overtones get taken over by the far
right? I think the Tea Party has become the party of Trump, and the GOP
is so afraid of Trump tweets they follow along like sheep to a shearing.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 29, 2018, 12:09:03 pm
The Trump administration has reunited around 1600 kids to their
parents. There are hundreds more, and reports children are still
being removed from their parents when arriving at the boarder
with Mexico. The courts are ordering the government to finish the
job, but Trumps cronies are in no real hurry except to take people
back to die in the lawless country of their origin.
 
President Trumps attack on football players for kneeling while the
national anthem was played may have been a call to his voting
base to begin with. But it may be Trump working to bild national
furver among his supporters. Ever since he started running for
office he has acting like he supports the military. To build a stronger
military. Is Trump planning a war with Iran? Many of his supporters 
already say they would support a war with Iran. 

I wonder if his supporters are ready to pay 5 or more dollars a
gallon for gasoline? If a war with Iran is started a major shipping
route for millions of barrels of oil will be blocked. Trump knows if
we are at war his chances for reelection is much better. If he was to
start it before the mid term election it might even help keep the GOP
in power.

Also a war with Iran would likely create many more terrorists that
will attack the United States.  Trump is surrounded by people who
want war with Iran. A war with Iran will be much tougher than the
war with Iraq. Iran is a country with 80 million people. Iraq had
20 million, and it's army fell apart once we denied them their skies.
Iran has many many short range missils that will play havoc with our
ships and military bases in the area. They will use them against oil
facilities as well. It's likely the whole of the middle east will be on
fire.

If the price of gasoline rises much it will wreck the economy. It
could cause a world wide depression. The economy runs on energy,
if the price of energy goes up the economy will go down, and down.


You can find out more at the following links.
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 30, 2018, 12:02:37 pm
Trump is threatening a government shut down if the democrats won't
support his wall with Mexico.. I kind of imagine his GOP buddies don't
want it. It will likely hurt them in them just before an election. Trump
seems to think he can blame it on the democrats, but with the GOP
running the government, few but his diehard supporters will
believe that. 

Trump continues to lie about the economy, jobs, and wage growth.
Obama's last 18 months were better than Trumps first 18 months.
The 4.1% GDP was good for the last quarter, but Obama had 4 quarters
that beat 4.1%. Trump keeps saying he has turned the economy
around. From what? The ecomoy was growing when Trump was
elected, it's actually showing signs of slowing not growing
under Trump. Check the link to msnbc below for more information.   

The economy has been growing since 2009. Seems economy grows
under democrats and slows with republicans. The last time we had
a balanced budget was when Clinton was president.  The GOP seems
to think cutting taxes will help grow the economy, but instead it just
increases the deficit and stagnates wages and growth.
who

It would seem President Trump is worried. Otherwise why did he
tweet more than 30 times over the weekend? People who are innocent
let their lawyers speak for them. People like Trump who are
guilty can't keep their mouth shut. Is Trump trying to convince
himself or mislead those who support him? I think it's the latter.

Trump would be a lot better off keeping his mouth shut. Every
time he speaks it is going to be on the news. His claims about
fake news is autocratic by design. The first amendment of the
constitution gives people the right to free speach. Trump can
dispute what is reported on the news, but calling it fake requires
proof or it's just a lie, and we know how much Trump lies.

Trump still wants his s tupid wall. This wall won't keep Asians from
over staying their visa's. For many years Asians have come to this
country by air, and stay. Where is Trump on this kind of immigration?
He hasn't said much if any at all. I guess his supporters don't care
if Asians over stay their visia's.


You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 01, 2018, 12:02:09 pm
Big business and big money run our country. The fewer people that
get out and vote the greater their control. Crooked politicians and
money grubbing corporations work to limit voting and spend
millions trying to mislead voters. People in big business who support
Trump claim Trump doesn't lie, it's because he can't keep up with
the facts, and makes mistakes. If this is the case he should be doing
more reading and less golf playing. Otherwise he should resign.

A man in the office of president should know enough to  delegate 
work.  His job is to make the big decisions, not micro manage
like Trump is trying to do. Trump claimed he would spend 7 days
a week being president and accused Obama of playing too
much golf. This is just more of his lies.

President Trumps ex campaign manager is on trial. Accused of making
millions of dollars without reporting it to the IRS. That and bank fraud,
laundering money.  So far his defense team, and I mean team of lawyers
are claiming the underlings in his business did all the crimes. It
appears they are trying to make the trial so busy with confusing paper
work the jury will give up and say not guilty.

So far Trump is calling any and all things about him and his cronies is
nothing but a witch hunt. All his troubles are due to fake news. This
is just a white wash by Trump. There isn't any way the news media
could agree to lie about everything Trump claims they have. The news is 
business and they would love to report lies by the big news media.
Fox news is nothing but a corporate outlet for the benefit of the far
right and fake news and facts by Trump.

I think this is all about Trumps ego, he wants to be known as the
greatest president this country every had. These investigations of
his wrong doings block this plan of Trumps. So Trump lies night
and day trying to clear his path to greatness.



You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 02, 2018, 12:06:27 pm
Trump wants gas milage standards to be dropped. Why? Trump
claims it will keep the price of new cars lower. If gas prices go up
or even stay the same, the loss of increased mileage will end up
costing the consumer more in the long run. This doesn't count the
increased pollution caused by greater gas consumption. Pollution
that can increase medical costs for us all. Along with even greater
climate change. Hotter summers for us all.

Trump wants to remove the waver that allows California to have
different mileage and emission standards that set by the federal
government. The govener of California says he will fight this  to
keep his states standards in place. Other states are suing to stop
changes in gas and mileage standards as well.

The ACA is under more attack by Trump. He continues refusing to
not follow the law by paying subsidies to insurance companies who
still support the ACA. (Obama Care) Trump claims people are doing 
better with cheaper plans. Plans that don't give the coverage people 
need . Several cities are suing Trump because thousands of their 
citizens have little or no health insurance. This ends up costing cities
millions because of people not being able to pay for health care the
cities are required to provide, paid or not. These actions by Trump
will likely cause health costs to rise for us all. Which will drive up
insurance prices too. With the loss of the ACA people will no longer
be able to get affordable coverage if they have previous or reacurring 
health issues.



Is President Trump guilty of jury tampering? His remarks about the
ongoing trial of his ex campaign manager were inappropriate. Trump
isn't just a citizen who's comments wouldn't have any effect. Comments
by the president carry a lot of weight and if the jury hears or see's them
it could affect their decision. Trump like any president has no business 
commenting on any ongoing investigation or trial.

Trump tweeted that the attorney general to stop the investigation about
his connection to  Russia during his campaign. This is another attempt 
of his to cover up his misdeeds by trying to stop an investigation. Later
his lawyers and friends tried to back his tweet up by saying he was only
stating an opinion, not an official order. There again as president Trump
has no business stating any opinions about any investigation, much less
one that may affect him. These statements alone are likely additional
attempts to cover his possible crimes.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 03, 2018, 12:10:52 pm
With all the good news President Trump could say about the
economy he continues to lie. He seems to think he must
find things to blame Obama and H Clinton for while talking
to his supporters. I think the cheers he receives energizes
him, and feeds  his ego. I think people go to his rallies
for the entertainment as much as anything else. He has
his audience so well trained they would likely cheer at
anything he said or might do. Even if he mooned them
while saying this is what he thinks of the fake news.

Its sad how President Trump stands at a rally and lies with
youn kids in the audience. Such a terrible example for the
young people of our nation. The young are easily led
astray by people with evil plans. Youn people are talked into
meeting men that wish to abuse them every day.

Trump is even worse in that he twists their minds into thinking
the government is out to hurt them. Teaching them that the
poor are loosers, and that it's ok to take advantage of the
ignorant.

Think not? Trump has taken advantage of people all his life.
Not paying his bills, Talking people into buying theings they
don't need or basicly a scam.. Now as president he is trying
to fool us all. Right in front of children who are taught they
should believe the president.

The best thing that could happen to Trump is have the people
of one of his rallys walk out when he arrives. Leaving him with
alone in a empty building. It's time the cult of Trump ends.

People should remember great men/women are led to power.
Those who want power generally have a plan that benefits
themselves, and not the nation or group they wish to lead.
I am sure many people feel Trump only wants to help our
nation, but all I see is a man who cares nothing for anyone
but himself.


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www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 04, 2018, 12:26:07 pm
The trial of Trumps ex campaign manager ended the week with
people testifying about his tax reports and money handling with
banks as well. Millions of dollars recieved without reporting it to
the IRS, Telling banks he was solvent when he wasn't. HIs defense
so far has been trying to put the blame on others. Just a poor rich
guy with bad employees. 

The rights of minorities, women, handicapped, poor, and especially
the LGBT have little or no support from the Evangelical Protestant
movement in America.  The leaders of this religious movement are
using public fear of immigrants, gays, and abortion to gain political
power. President Trump has claimed to be religious to get their
support as well as agreeing to help them with their goals of stopping
homosexuality and abortion. I am sure many others unsaid. 

People who claim to know the will of GOD can be dangerous. Some
will do almost anything they believe GOD wants them to do. Even
to kill people, and destroy the rights of others in promoting
their beliefs.  Trump doesn't do anything to  prevent this. He
may claim he doesn't agree with it, but does nothing to stop
it. To him it's just another tool to help him keep power. Even
if it hurts the nation.

President Trump claims he can sit down with the special
counsel and convince them he is innocent of any collaboration
with the Russians. Some how I feel there is more to this than
a simple meeting. Trump likely thinks he can claim the special
counsel wasn't fair or trying to trap him after the meeting.

All I can say is the special counsel best video the meeting if he
has one with Trump. Seeing the meeting on video would do more
to  convince Americans of Trumps guilt than any paper report would.

Trumps friends continue to call a meeting with the special counsel
a trap to catch President Trump in a lie. A perjury trap is all but
impossible to create. As long as President Trump is honest with
his answers he has nothing to fear in that respect. Of course he
might not want to answer honestly which would put him in a bind.
He can claim the 5th, but that would make people wonder why.
Even Trump himself said if a person claims the 5th they must
be guilty of something.

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www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 05, 2018, 12:02:32 pm
The mid term elections are fast approaching. Trump claims he will
be out 6 or 7 days a week showing his support for the GOP. I imagine
some would rather not have his help. Trump has a solid base for
himself, but it doesn't seem to help others in the party. I am sure
his support will add to voting numbers for the party, but will it
help those running for office overall? Those in congress catch
a lot of blame even if Trump doesn't.

Has President Trump thrown his son under the bus with his tweets?
His son testified that the meeting at Trump tower was about adoptions.
,but Trump tweeted it wasn't about adoptions.  So who is telling the
Truth. This is likely to cause his son some legal problems, and when
did Trump learn about the meeting that he seems to know a lot about.

President Trump and other autocrats around the world hide behind
the words "FAKE NEWS". Why? Because they want to cover up the
facts, and the truth. Yes, I am calling Trump an autocrat. He like putin
have a congress full of yes men and women. This is common among
all autocrats. All Trump needs is the courts to back him up. He and the
GOP are working hard to fill the federal court system with conservatives.
If successful we will be at the mercy of a one man government. It's
already a one party government.

A group of black preachers met with Trump and declared he was the best
president that dark skinned people ever had. I kind of imagine there will
be some dispute on this issue. I am not a black man, but I can still tell
the president has done little to help them. The facts show Trump considers
black people to have a low IQ. This just shows how ignorant Trumps is. There
are many many very intelligent dark skinned people. In spite of Trumps
stupidity skin color has nothing to do with intelligence. Money doesn't either
as Trump proves every day.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 06, 2018, 01:24:21 pm
President Trump continues to divide our country. Trying to say
black people have a low IQ is not going to help the GOP. Many
minorities have been successful in business and have a good
life style. Some even support Trump. I am sure they have good
reasons. Hopefully they are not hurt by Trumps actions.

Trumps people are trying to say the meeting in his tower was 
perfectly legal. Saying getting information on a political opponent
is okay no matter where you get it, even from foreigners. Trumps
tweets has caused him and his son a lot of trouble. Now Trump
and his people are trying to patch it up with lies. It's against the
constitution to get support from foreign governments or people
to win an election.

You can find out more at the following links.
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 07, 2018, 12:15:33 pm
President Trump is trying to claim the fires in California are due to
poor water management. This is misleading and political at a time
people are dying and loosing homes and property. Just more proof
Trump cares more about gaining GOP control than people. The fires
are mostly due to extreme heat and high winds, not about water
shortages. Trumps tweet about not having enough fire breaks
has some merit, but with high winds fire can travel great
distances.

President Trumps desire to undo Obama's work while in office
continues as Trump puts sanctions on Iran. Ones that Obama removed
with the nuclear treaty worked out by the Obama administration.

We know Iran is guilty of attacking areas in the middle east to  gain
it's own control and desire to create a federation of middle eastern
states. One with Islam as it's theocratic center and control.

Iran became a theocracy when the Shaw was deposed in the
late 1970's. Religious leaders still largely control the Iranian
government. Obama was trying to moderate the leadership of
Iran, but Trumps shortsighted actions will likely give the hardliners
more power.

These sanctions not only will punish Iran it will punish Europe and
our country as well. Trump plans to stop trade with any country
that breaks his sanctions. Time will tell to see how many countries
stop trading with Iran. Like China? I have a hunch Trump would
give them an exception.

Trumps racial hatred of Obama is doing more damage to our
country every day.

You can find out more at the following links.
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 08, 2018, 01:03:21 pm
US Representative Collins has been indicted for insider trading. One of
Trumps closest supporters in the GOP. The indictment implies the
congressman gave out inside information about a pharmaceutical stock
that was about to crash in value. Supposedly saving Collins family and
others almost 3/4 of a million dollars. It appears Collinns will still run
for re election this november. So far the GOP isn't calling for him to
resign. Instead they want to wait till after his possible conviction.

To me it's more proof that people like Trump feel the law doesn't apply 
to them. Not only Collins but many of those Trump has put in government 
offices and agencies. It's time the GOP stood up and prooved they support
the law, and it's application to us all. Instead they are putting their control 
of the goverment above the good of the country.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 09, 2018, 12:44:26 pm
A space force? Trump is pushing to create a new branch of the 
military. Already the Air Force handles military satellites and any
activities that might threaten our security in space.  Even though   
Trump claims it won't cost any more than we spend now, but  it will
need a large number of civilians to handle the needs of a separate
branch of the service. There are reports the Air Force isn't taking
defense of our satellite system seriously enough. If this is true,
then it should be corrected immediatly.

Trump claimed he was going to spend a lot of time working
in the White House, but so far he has been at one of his
golf resorts for a toltal of 6 of his first 18 months in office.
Seems off his supporters don't complain about this. Do they
really think he works at these resorts? I am sure he does
invite foreign leaders to his resorts, but what do they talk about?
In public Trump just brags about his election and other nonsense.

N Korea returned remains of about 200 of our fallen soldiers
who were in the Korea war. Trump has made a big deal out
of this, but there are many more soldiers that are unaccounted
for. It is good we have these 200, but at what cost and when
will we recieve the rest?

More sanctions on Russia? Is Trump doing this so he can claim
he is tough on Russia? Russia isn't too happy about them.
Hopefully Trump didn't just do it without checking to see
what effects it might cause. We import some raw materials 
from Russia that we need in industry. Some which could
be vital for our security. 

Pain medicine is causing many deaths across the country. The
pharmaceutical industry is making billions selling these highly
addictive drugs.  Doctors are encouraged to prescribe them
with trips and conventions paid for by the drug industry. So
far the Trump administration has done little but talk about the
problem.

The Judge in the trial of Trumps ex campaign manager appears
to be showing favor for the defense. A judge is supposed to
be a moderator and see that both parties follow the law. Not
make statements or take actions that favor one side or the
other. A lawyer who knows the judge said he is a hands on
type that often gets involved a bit too much. Sometimes
helping one side or the other. This isn't a big problem for
the defense as they can appeal, but the prosecution can't
appeal due to double jeopardy laws. Allowing the guilty
to be set free if a judge misleads the jury by accident or not.

You can find out more at the following links.
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 10, 2018, 12:25:58 pm
The Trump administration was caught exporting a family apparently
hoping to avoid a unfavorable  court decision. The judge ordered the
department of justest to return the family back to the United States
under threat of contempt of court. A contempt charge that would
apply to the Attorney general and the head of homeland security.
They backed down and had the family returned.

If it wasn't for our courts the Trump administration would be allowed
to get by with autocratic orders that ignore our laws, the constitution, 
and human rights. The GOP appears to be working hard to make our
courts more conservitives to help them maintain power. They know if
they play fair they will loose power across the nation.  A power the
rich and big business wants to maintain while taking advantage of
the little guy. They promise prosperity to all with a mouth full of lies.

The parents of President Trumps wife gained citizenship due to what
Trump calls chain migrations. This happened yesterday, but he hasn't
said one word publicly about it. Where is his condemnation now? I think
it's great his wifes parents were able to be citizens of America, but
what about the families of many other citizens who Trump wants to
keep out of the country? Where are the cries of outrage from his
supporters who agree with Trumps stand on Chain migration? Looks
like a double  standard to me. If your rich and or famous, apparently
the law shouldn't apply to you.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 11, 2018, 12:16:37 pm
Representative Collins of New York has decided not to run for
reelection after all. Apparently the GOP leadership told him
to not run as it might cost them another seat in congress. Now
he is trying to remove his name from the ballot.

President Trump is a racist, him and his father both. Yes we
have a 1st amendment right to speak out and stand for what
we believe, but when carried to actions that take peoples rights
it's wrong.

Trump should be speaking out against racism, not reaching out
to get votes from people who think white is right. Some of these
people think black people should accept their lot in life and be
happy to live in America. I fear there will always be those who think
they are better than someone else. Some who look down on anyone
who looks or acts differently. Be it skin color, speech, religion or life
style. History has shown these people can only be stopped by a
government that is designed to protect the rights of all. 

The problem now is the party elected to run the government is not
doing their job. Instead they they are worried more about political power
than the rights of the people, and our nation. The party (GOP) who claims
to be for law and order, against  attacks by foreign power, and for morality.
Yet they seemed to forget all of this  by supporting a corrupt president who
is ready to sell us out for a buck.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 12, 2018, 12:58:04 pm
Trumps attorneys don't want him to have an interview with the
special counsel. They call it a perjury trap. They say Trump isn't
smart enough to avoid being caught in a lie. Even a little 5 year old
kid knows when he or she is telling a lie. Makes one wonder how
Trump handles really smart leaders if he is so gullible.  I really doubt
Trump was able to bully either Russia's Putin or the N Korean leader.
Instead they likely bullied him. Trump acts brave when he is in front
of his fans, but hasn't the nerve to  even personally fire anyone. he
was only an actor when he fire people on his tv show.

There is a book out by one of Trumps ex staff that claims Trump
used racial statements during the production of his TV show
Apprentice, and in the white house.  I won't repeat them, but if
you check link to Msnbc you can find out. Of course Trump and
his  friends call it a lie. Well Trump and his friends lie all the time,
so if there is a tape of it we will know for sure. Yet when Trump
declared he was running for president he called Mexican
immigrants rapists and thieves.

With this person gone from the white house, there is only one
black person in his cabinet and none in the west wing staff,
and he is treated like a token black each time Trump wants to
prove he isn't a racist, with him in tow.

You can find out more at the following links.
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 13, 2018, 12:25:49 pm
President Trump continue to bad mouth the only black person that
worked in the west wing of the white house. If she was to bad why
did he hire her? Seems people only have to brag on Trump to be
hired to work in the government. But if they don't stay loyal he is ready
to get rid of them even if they want to follow the law. Trump wants
everyone to bow and scrape at his feet. He can't stand for anyone
to say anything bad about him. 

As always president Trump can't let anything go. He has to talk and
tweet for days and days about anything that he doesn't like. Or
about anyone who makes him look bad. Seems he is afraid if he
doesn't defend himself people might believe them. All this does
give those he is complaining about credibility. Keeps it in the news
day after day. If he didn't want it in the news he should ignore such
attacks.

His complaints about the special counsel makes it look like he  is worried
about what they might find. There again he should ignore it. His
supporters will follow his lead no matter what.

Trump complains about national security yet if he was just a citizen he
couldn't pass security to work in the kitchen of the white house, much
less the oval office. We can only wonder what secrets he has revealed to
foreign leaders and our enemies. He constantly brags and boasts about
his election and how smart he is. A smart man keeps his mouth shut. 
Trump can't keep his mouth shut. It could be a habit he got from being a
salesman. If so he needs to break it.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 14, 2018, 12:38:01 pm
Trump is still defending hmself against the claims of his racial
misconduct. Calling the person making the claims rude names.
To me it just makes Trump look more guilty. 

The trial of Trumps ex campaign manager is going to the jury
tomorrow. Time will tell what the jury decides. There are over
30 charges to vote on.

President Trump signed a defense bill that had Senator John Mc
cains name on it. Yet Trump refused to even mention his name,
or give him credit for his defense of our  country. Why? because
mc cain wouldn't give Trump a vote that would have destroyed
the ACA. Just more proof of how petty Trump is. Just like a little
rich kid that doesn't get his way. I find it hard to understand
why anyone would support a man who acts like a schoolyard
bully. A spoiled one at that.

The GOP continues trying to discredit the FBI. To discredit the
special counsels report on Trumps coverup and connection to
the Russian government.

We depend on congress to hold the President accountable for
any wrong doing. Yet the GOP controlled congress refuses to
do it's job in this matter. Instead they are working to protect
the president, no matter what he does.

If Trump is allowed to continue his conduct, his supporters as
well as the public will suffer the consequences. Already there
are signs the economy is slowing down. Income for some workers
has improved, but not generally. Thousands have lost their jobs
due to Trumps trade policies and thousands more will likely  loose
their jobs in the future. The free ride of an improving economy 
given to the GOP and Trump by Obama is ending.

Inflation is out running any wage increases this year. The average tax
savings due to the GOP tax cut for the avergae wage earner is $68.
For upper middle class it's about $1000. For the top wage earners
it's about $60,000 in average tax savings. Tax savings by big business
has largely went to  stock buy backs instead of increased wages for
their workers. Remember the trickle down claim by the GOP? Well
there it is. Tax saving isn't going to most workers in wage increases.
 Big business isn't even puting the money into their infrastructure.


You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 15, 2018, 01:56:21 pm
The white house is trying to say Trump bad mouths a lot of people
not just one group or another. Well one can say he has been rude to
minorities, women, and gays. Nice to the far right and other
supporters. Some might say it's just Trump, but that is no excuse for
being rude or nasty. 

In spite of Trumps supporters in congress or the country. The
problem is the rest of the world views our country by how
the president acts. Looking at Trump we must look pretty
weird , and untrustworthy.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 17, 2018, 12:06:38 pm
President Trump is going nuts over the book and tapes released
by his ex staff member.. Filing a law suit in New York hoping to
scare her away. Asking the attorney general to have her
arrested. We can only wonder where it will all lead.

Trumps military parade for this fall is on life support. Seems
the price tag is going from 21 million to 90 million depending
on who is talking. Personally this parade is a waste of tax
payer dollars. World leaders don't need to see a parade to know
how strong our military is. This is just a ego trip for Trump,
and should be cancelled. 

President Trump wants everyone to think he knows it all. (Mr
Perfect who is never wrong..) He never has liked the CIA or
the FBI unless they pat him on the head and say "Good Boy."
It's the same with laws that get in his way.

He has the power to pull security clearances from anyone, but
he is supposed to follow procedures to do so. Not to punish
political enemies. Trump seems to think he can use his power to
punish anyone he doesn't like. Just like President Nixon did. If anyone
needs his security clearance removed it's President Trump.

Every time he does something wrong he claims he has huge
support for doing so. But he never tells us who these  supporters
are. Now he is saying his ex campign manager who is on trial, is
a very good person. Smells like a pardon in the works to me. It
appears if you have a lot of money and brag on Trump your a very
good person. Even if your guilty of theft and tax evasion. I think
Trump is padding his mattress with rich friends.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 18, 2018, 12:21:34 pm
Will President Trump use his power to remove security clearance 
form the special counsel? If he does will the GOP restore it? At
what point will the GOP stand up and do the job they swore
and oath to do?  Only time will tell. 

The GOP claims the democrats are hungup on the race issue.
They say people don't care about race issues. They point to
minorities and say "look how well they are doing.". Trump and
the GOP won't admit black people are targeted by police. Treated
like second class citizens, and a black woman was called a "Dog"
by president Trump because she spoke out against him.  The more
the GOP allow Trump to abuse his power the more he will abuse it.

President Trump wants total loyalty to him by every American.
He considers himself to be a great president. Claiming huge 
numbers of people agree with everything he stands for.

Well over 60 people with national security clearance told him he
is not a dictator or an autocrat. Telling him that they won't bow
and kiss his feet to keep their security clearance. They will stand
up and tell him if he is acting guilty or stupid. Trump doesn't have
the right to tell people they have to show respect no matter what
he does. Power alone doesn't give a president the right to punish
others for speaking out against him or her.

Our first amendment right allows us to speak out against any
elected official for their wrong doing. We are a free country not
a autocracy where a dictator can toss people in prison because
they don't like them.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 19, 2018, 01:03:58 pm
Will the GOP allow all eligible people to vote this fall? Already
several GOP controlled states have passed laws that make it
harder to vote. Especially for minorities and the elderly. Voter ID
laws make it difficulte for the poor. Having to pay for a ID can cost
$10. Enough for a couple meals if your poor.  The GOP claims it's
to prevent voter fraud, but there is little evidence of such activity.

The GOP knows that the poor and minorities often vote against the
republican party, so they are doing all the can to  limit their votes.

President Trumps people continue trying to mislead the public with
lies and made up stories. Today one tried to say the Truth can't be
believed unless it's their truth. Since when does a truth belong to
anyone. Truth is based on facts and evidence, not based on ones 
wants or desires.

Trump and his people seem to feel what the president says has to be
believed. Since when does  a president have a title on the truth. Other
presidents have lied. Of course Trump holds the record as around 5000
of them by now. It's time we the people tell Trump show us . Just like my
states motto. "Show Me".  We can't believe him so he needs to give us
the facts with evidence. Otherwise it's just a lie.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 20, 2018, 12:41:40 pm
President Trump continues his interference in the trial of his
ex campaign manager. His comments about how good the man
is and how bad the trial is inappropriate and should be illegal.
Even to cause the judge to declare a mistrial.

The first lady speaks out agains cyber bullying, but doesn't
mention her husband president Trump who is one of the
biggest cyber bullies in the country..

Our president should not be able to run the country by decree
unless we are at war, or to protect our security. Not for politics
or personal gain. Trump continues wanting to avoid due process
which is design to protect peoples rights.  This is abuse of
power is another reason for his eventual removal from office.
By the vote of the people or by impeachment.

Trump continues to protect the coal industry. One of the dirties
forms of energy. Costs in damage to human health outstrips
any advantage in jobs or the economy. Moneies could be spent to
educate workers for new jobs that would likely pay as much or
more than they do to moving coal from the earth to power
plants. Costs to burn coal is high, and to our health. It's an
enterprise of the past and should be ended.

The Trump administration continues to remove regulations that were
created to protect the environment and human health. Sure these
regualtions will be reinstated in the future, but between now and
then much damage will be done.

President Trump asked the attorney general to sue the providers 
dangerous opioid drugs. This a good start, but we need to make
affordable treatment available to  those affected. Trump could
stand up and not make a political football out of the problem by
calling for everyone to help. Including the drug companies, and
doctors. Some who receive benefits  if they prescribe such drugs.

The tax cut provieded by Trump and the GOP continues to help the
riches people in our nation. CEO's were paid an average of about
18 million in benifits. Over 200 times what their workers make. In
the 1960's CEO's averages 20 times workers salaries. I hardly think
the value of administration of large business has increase that much.
Instead this greed just increases inflation and costs to the average
consumer.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 21, 2018, 12:13:54 pm
President Trump appears to have found a new political toy
to play with. He is threatening to remove security clearances from
several people he doesn't like. But over 175 government workers
with security clearance are calling Trump out.

Is president Trump afraid of what the special counsel may decide?
He and his lawyers seem to be attacking the investigation more
and more as time goes by. If he was innocent he should do his
job as president and let the justist department do their job. Yet
he can't let it alone just like most guilty people who worry about
getting caught. If guilty how far will Trump go trying to protect
himself and family? Will he drag our country down with him?
Only time will tell.

President Trump is claiming rising interest rates are hurting his
economy. I think it's more about it hurting the stock market.
Trouble is, if left alone a racing economy will likely fuel inflation.
Worse yet it could create an economic bubble when popped will
put us in a recession if not a depression that could put millions
out of work. A similar thing caused the great depression of the
1930's. A gut discsion by Trump put him in bankruptcy 4 times.
Hopefull his gut won't do the same for the country.
 
Has the first lady turned against the president? There are some
indications this may be the case. It's too early to know, but her
trip to africa may be part of it. Only time will tell.
 
Microsoft reported they found six fake websites created by
Russian hackers. Theses sites attacked pro democracy
conservative groups who have broken with Trump.. 
I wonder if President Trump will have negative comments
to make against the Russians now? Or will he try to blame it
on others. Theses sites were taken down, but it's likely
more are being created. These sites are fishing for information
they can use for further attacks.

The jury is still deliberating their decision about Trumps ex
campaign manager. It's only been a few days, but the defense
is claiming it's good news. But time will tell.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 22, 2018, 12:22:57 pm
The first two GOP members of congress to support Trump
have ben indicted for breaking the law. It seems more
and more of Trumps political supporters, and friends are
guilty of wrongdoing. Perhaps in this case the old saying
"Birds of a feather flock together" is true.

The trial for Trumps ex campaign  manager is over.
He was found guilty of 8 of the18 charges filed
against him. Trump was saying how bad it was for
a good guy like his ex campign manager to be charged
for things that happend a dozen years ago. So does
this mean Trump is going to pardon him? Trump has
the power, but how much will it cost Trump in political
support?

Well it appears our President has been accused of directing his
lawyer to break the law. Not by the media or democrats, but in
a court of law. Some say a person running for president can do
anything to win as long as they win. Trump ran for office claiming
to be a law and order candidate. Yet it appears he is guilty of breaking
the law himself. Why? Because he wanted to be president.

Will his supporters stand behind a law breaker? If I had voted for him
I would be very disappointed in him now. Trump has denied any and
all wrong doing, but it's no longer a claim by opponents, there is apparently
evidence to prove it. Also this is just the beginning of his woes, according
to Trumps ex lawyer. This makes Trump a unindicted co conspirator of this
crime.

Trump continues blaiming H Clinton for things that mean little compared
to his activities. When will his supporters open their eyes and realize Trump
cares nothing for them except their votes? Some were asked and replied
they would find it hard to give up on Trump. He is their man to the end.
Perhaps they should call it the cult of Trump.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 23, 2018, 12:16:34 pm
Trump is trying to wiggle and lie his way out of trouble over his
payments  to women so they wouldn't tell the public about his
infidelity prior to the election. Trump is trying to say his ex lawyer
flipped only to save himself. Trump can call it a flip, but it's likely
the truth instead. Without witnesses our system of justice would
find it impossible to convict most criminals.

President Trump has stuck his racist nose into South African politics. 
He is siding with white farmers over the black majority. These
farmers have owned the majority of the land since colonial days.
Leaving the black population  to live as second class citizens.  It has
been a slow process trying to level the economy so it benefits everyone.
This redistribution of wealth is a fear of the rich in this country. So Trump
and the GOP will lie and cheat to keep their power and wealth for themselves. 

President Trump and his supporters are using the death of a young
woman for their own benefit. The parents had requested their daughters
memory not be dirtied by politics. Well you might as well tell a dog not
to bark because Trump ignored the family and continues to use it for
his own political benefit. Claiming the fact the man was a illegal
immigrant is why he killed the woman. A lie that Mexican immigrants are
here to kill and rape. A lie Trump has promoted since he started running
for office. Like all cultures you will find bad people, but immigrants rate
less than the general population.

Trump must be worried about being impeached, because he all but
threaten to wreck the economy if it happened. I wouldn't put it past
Trump. He has a vindictive nature and likely would try to punish those
who are against him. Including his supporters in the process.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 24, 2018, 12:31:53 pm
Friends and those Trump depended on are falling to investigations of
wrong doing, Some are being given immunity to get evidence and
statements about Trump and company. How long will the GOP continue
to stand by him? Will they protect him no matter what? Those in the
GOP controlled congress who voted to impeach president Clinton
are avoiding saying the same about Trump, even though Trumps
actions are worse.

President Trumps foundation is a cesspool compared to the  Clinton
foundation. Trump uses it like petty cash for whenever he needs a bit
of cash to buy something for himself or pay a bill. Possibly even bribes.
The state of New York is investigating Trump and company about it, 
and activities connected to it. Trump himself has put little of his money
into it. Trump claims big donations, but evades paying them unless it
comes to light he hasn't.

Trump is a con artist, he sold a lot of people on a fake university, was
involved in fake land sales in California as well. Trump tries to claim he
only sold his name, but ended up paying 25 million in damages over
the university con. Yet his supporters still stand by him. I think Trump
could run down Pennsylvania Ave in Washington DC  stark naked, and
his supporters would just laugh and cheer him on.

Trump can claim credit for the following, but I doubt he ever
would.

The greatest number of lobbyists in history.
Hiring people who waste tax payer dollars.
Picked cabinet members who have little experience.
Claimed to hire the smartest people which he did not.
Staying at his own resorts so he can over charge tax payers.
Spent nearly a third of his presidency at his own golf resorts.
Hired people to get rid of regulations that protect public health.
Complains about being investigated instead of doing his job.
Cries because people are more loyal to the constitution and law than they are to him.
Lies constantly to protect himself instead of admitting his failures.

I could go on, but this is a good example of how Trump has treated
the tax payer over the past 18 months of his presidency.

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www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 25, 2018, 12:34:42 pm
Is President Trump becoming unglued so to speak? Several people that
know him are saying he has lost the sharpness he had only a few years
ago. Even during his rallys he is rambling more and more.  I mean talking
about how his mother cooked a turkey is a bit off the mark.  He can't let
go of H Clinton. No longer an opponent even though Trump acts like she is
following him around. He can't let go of winning his election. He feels he
has to prove it to everying that he is legitimate. Perhaps he is trying to
convince himself. Seems Trump acts more like a Mob Boss than our
president. The  loyalties pledges, calling convicted criminals good guys,
saying legal procedures are wrong. Trump should shut up and do his
job as president, not act like a banana republic dictator.   

Trump has misled many people over the years. I have learned a large
percentage of the public look up to rich people. They see them as smart and
in most cases try to learn how they got rich. I think most people wouldn't
cheat others the way Trump has, but it's easy to loose sight of integrity
when trying to get rich. People start making excuses for doing bad things, 
especially if it will save them from failure. I think Trumps supporters only
want to see the good side of Trump. To think those who speak against
Trump are just jealous of his success. I fear it will take a big fall before
many of Trumps supporters question his integrity.

President Trump and the owner of the National Enquirer, and Star,
worked to get Trump elected by publishing conspiracy theories.
To harm H Clinton, and other opponents  with those supermarket tabloids.
They knew many people read them, not all believe them, but even a
small percentage could be enough to put Trump over the top. It appears
the owner of these publications has recieved imunity to testify against
Trump and his ex lawyer. Reports say he has a multitude of stories and
evidence that could cause Trump serious legal problems.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 26, 2018, 11:59:32 am


I started this thread asking if Trump election would make a difference, make
life better for us all. Unfortunately Trump and the GOP haven't changed. They
are still fighting against the rights of minorities, women, handicapped, and
the LGBT. They reach out to the radical far right to keep the power they don't
deserve.

It seems the GOP is opening the door to  Trump so he can fire the atterney
general. To put someone in office who will support his wishes to stop the
investigation by the special counsel. Trump apparently hope this will save
his presidency and fix any legal issues after he leaves office. He best think
again as this will just prove he is trying to cover up his misdeeds. Some of
which there is no presidential pardon to fix.

One of the last fine GOP senators passed away the other day. John Mc Cain
was one member of the GOP who was willing to honestly listen to people who
might not agree with him, and give them the respect they deserved. He was
willing to put rhetoric aside for the good of the country other than his party.

President Trump has never given John Mc Cain the respect he deserved. He
hasn't even offered his condolences to  the senators family. Apparently has
no plans to attend the funeral. He may send the VP or his wife, but likely no
one else.  Perhaps Trump doesn't want to be upstaged by Obama who has been
asked to  speak at the funeral. Trump should be ashamed to treat an American
hero like John Mc Cain the way he has. To me this proves Trump claims of  support
for the military is nothing but more of his lies. Instead he just wants their votes.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 27, 2018, 12:28:16 pm
It appears President Trumps fantastic deal with his buddy, the leader of N
Korea isn't going any where. Trump cancelled a meeting, perhaps fearing
the N Korean leader would snub Trumps negotiator again. In the meantime
reports show N Korea is continuing to build rockets and adding to their
nuclear stockpile. Perhaps building more H bombs as well.

President Trump announces work on a new trade agreement with Mexico. The
announcement was much more about brag than substance. Trump as usual
made out like it was because of his great deal making ability. The President
of Mexico was on the phone really working on Trumps ego with an almost
embarrassing amount of praise for Trump. Guess he has learned the best
way to get on Trumps good side is to praise him again and again. Oh
and again. Oddly enough nothing was said about Mexico paying for Trumps
wall. I have a hunch Trump didn't want the President of Mexico publicly
telling him no. 

President Trump hasn't said anything about the shooting in Florida. Perhaps
because the shooter wasn't an immigrant. Seems Trump doesn't care if Americans
kill each other. Just when he can use it for political gain.

Trump did twee condolences to John Mc Cains family today, but nothing about the
senator. Even though he is an American Hero. John Mc Cain may not have been a
great politician, but he was a honest one who deserves more respect than Trump
is giving him. This from Trump a man who avoided the draft that sent many to 
fight in the Viet Nam war. The war Mc Cain fought. He Claimed he had bad feet.
Odd a man with bad feet would be a avid golf player.

Trumps supporters don't seem to care if Trump is a crook or not. Polls show him
to have much the same support as he did before it was shown he directed his lawyer
to break the law. I doubt if his supporters want to admit or believe their man is
a crook. I am sure some would stand with him even if he was hauled off to prison.
Of course I doubt if many would want to go with him.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 28, 2018, 02:24:52 pm
President Trump is complaining thata Google is giving the
liberals an edge over conservatives  on searches. Trump is
just griping because the conservatives aren't on top. Search
engines give the most popular sites first. They don't favor
one or the other.

Besides Google is a private company. if they wanted to  give
liberals the edge they could. In spite of our batty president.

Trump finally gave a few remarks giving John Mc Cain a few
good words, and keeping the White houous flag at half staff.
You could tell the way he spoke the words praising Mc Cain
were hard for him to say.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 29, 2018, 12:28:07 pm
The GOP controlled senate is doing all they can to prevent full
disclosure of the written record of Trumps last appointment to the
supreme court. The GOP wants to approve this candidate as soon
they can. Even if they have to cover up his record. They want 
to pack the court with conservative judges who will  support the
GOP and big business, and other GOP supporters. It's just more
efforts by an minority party to  control our country. A party who
ignores the will of most Americans.

President Trump hasn't had anything to  say about the report 
that tells almost 3000 people died in Puerto Rico last year during
and after the hurricanes. Trump claimed only 64 died, and how
great a job his administration did to save lives and help restore
the island. The very least thing Trump could do is apologize for
his failure to protect our fellow americans who populate Purto
Rico. An American territory. Of course Trumps ego wouldn't allow
him to even do that. We should be ashamed of a president who
thinks so little of our fellow Americans. Even people in Texas
are still fighting to get help from the Trump administration.

Trump lied to evangelicals the other day when he said he got
rid of the Johnston amendment. This amendment prohibits tax
exempt entities from supporting or opposing candidates for public
office. It would take an act of congress to change or get rid of it.
The law is rarely enforced so perhaps the GOP would rather forget
it since it was their idea in the first place.

It seems Trump supporters don't care how much he lies as long as
he wants to build walls and kick immigrants out of the country. Even
if he fails to use due process. They seem to be okay with him acting
like a dictator.. All I can say it if the GOP and Trump keep power our
free society will only be a memory in the future. Some people feel
living under one man or party rule is a good thing. Especially if  they
agree with the man. I wonder how they will feel when that man or party
doesn't agree with them? Well by then it will be too late.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 30, 2018, 12:34:41 pm
It was reported the GOP release a private document to a GOP member running
for congress. This document was a application for an security clearance. This
document would have very private information that was subsequently used
trying to harm the democratic opponent. Release of this document was an
illegal act by the GOP or perhaps an individual of the GOP. The use of it should
at lease require a large fine, and apology by the GOP.

Even though Trump claims the economy is doing great people have less
buying power than they did last year. Inflation is out racing any raises in
pay they may have received. Trump and the GOP continue talking about
their tax cut and how much it saves the little guy. Yet it was nothing compared
to the millions it saved Trump and his family. Saving billions for big business who
turned around and used the money to buy back stock instead of giving raises
to theire employees. Sure some got bonuses and raises, but many were fired.
Trump and the GOP claimed the tax savings to big business would trickle down
to their empoyees, but this rarely if ever happens. No matter how often the
GOP claimes it does. Most of the GOP leadership are a bunch of rich money
grubbers who consider the poor and needy  lazy bums.


Florida has a black man running for Govenor by winning the primary , he will
be running againsst a well paid and supported Trump backed republican.
He will cause the GOP and their supporters to spend millions and millions
of dollars hoping to keep a republickan govenor in office. The NRA has spent
millions to keep state politicians favorable to them. So you can be sure
they will run lots of ads saying the democrat will take their guns if he wins.

Ever notice how great and smart people are when President  Trump
likes them? When he doesn't they are losers and unfair. Terrible people
to hear him talk. The media is fake when he doesn't like the news. Even
when it's just relating the facts. To me he makes his self look bad to anyone
who thinks for themselves and doesn't answer to ever dog whistle he
blows. I know many people feel they should look up to a president. But
when that president acts the way Trump does they should ask him why.
They shouldn't take his word as fact. They should demand that he will
talk to  them, answer their questions one to one. Not just standing behind
a podium making a speech. Telling lies and listening for cheers from people
he likely hired  to start chants and cheers. Just as he did during his campaign.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 31, 2018, 12:40:19 pm
President Trump found an excuse to be away from Washington DC today with
the funeral events around Senator John mc Cain. Trump is such a petty individual.
He hasn't the moral fortitude to set disputes aside for the good of the country.

To be a good politician one has to accept many things they may not like. Trump
however doesn't know how to  be a good politician or a good statesman. He is
for only one thing, and that is himself.

Mc Cain did somethings I didn't care for, but he was generally honest about his
decisions. So I respected him for that.  Most politicians lie and tell half truths, but
not Senator Mc Cain. He worked for what he believed in and stood by it. He will be missed by many. Hopefully there will be more like him in the future, but I fear it
won't be soon enough.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 02, 2018, 12:44:21 pm
I didn't post yesterday out of respect for John Mc Cain. It was good to
hear all the factual critizimns  about our egomaniac president during the
funeral..

Trump continues to divide our country. Everything must be his way or it's
the wrong way, and that's what he preaches to his supporters. Sometimes
I think they would jump off a cliff if he asked them to.
 

The Trump administration is out to export Latins who are American
citizens. Especially those along our southern boarder. It isn't
ending there. Latinos who are trying to becom naturalized Citizens
are having to wait over a year beyond-normal wait times. Just
more of Trumps racism. He and the GOP don't like anyone 
who might vote against them.

The GOP has for years tried to turn people against the poor and
disdvantaged. Then if someone runs for office who feels we should
help them a socialists. They want to protect the super rich and big
business. Capitalisim is fine but those who have gotten rich using
the fredoms this country provides should be willing to help those
who helped them get rich. The GOP wants to punish those whe
weren't lucky enough to be born healthy with a silver spoon in
their mouths. Loosers to hear Trump talk.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 03, 2018, 12:22:21 pm
Already the media is fishing to  find out who plans to run for
president in 2020. People generally wait till after the
Mid Term election to keep their options open. Trump has been
running for a full 8 years since the beginning. Trump loves to
hear people cheer for him, so campaigns feed his overinflated
ego. He will lie and tell made up stories. Anything to get
a cheer. It's likely why he is such a good salesman.  It's a shame
it doesn't help him be a good president. Trump knows it's easier to
sell a lie than the truth. Just keep saying it. Convince people it's the
truth even though it's not. Trump works to sell himself as he knows
that is what it takes to be a good salesman.

Labor day marks the usual beginning of the fall campaign
season. Perhaps this will gladdens the heart of many Americans. I
doubt if that is the case. Because it means we will be bombarded
with campaign ads and promises over the next 2 months.

I have always felt campaigns should be limited to a few weeks, not
months and years. As is our elected officials spend much of their
time campaigning and raising money to  stay in office. They should 
be doing their job instead. Rich people want to use political office
as a way to get even richer. Even to pass laws that benefit themselves
and their friends. Call me cynical if you like, but after a half century of
watching politicians, I have seen it time and time again.

Campaigns should be limited to Radio, Newspapers, Internet 
Town halls and mail. Television costs millions of dollars
that makes it hard for the average person to run for office. it
generally does little to inform the voter. One side lies and
both sides tell half truths. So let's stop it. q

Obviously the lobby for the visual media would fight long and
hard to prevent the banning of television ads. But it should be
done. I don't think people running for office should be able to use 
their own money. Allowing this gives the rich an unfair advantage.
The rich often have little knowledge of how Mr and Misses America
lives. Trump claims he does, but why should we believe a lier like him, 
He was born rich. I very much doubt if Trump has ever gone hungry
or had to sleep on the street.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 04, 2018, 01:15:46 pm
President Trump is trying to block data to protect his nomination
for the supreme court claiming presidential privilege. This nominee has
a record of being againsts abortion. Also against any legal action against
a president, no matter what. He is a hard line conservative that does not
belong in any court much less the supreme court. There is a record
that this nnomiee may have lied to congress when he was being checked
for his current position as an federal appellate judge.

The GOP is trying to ram this man through the hearings inspide of a lot of
objections by the publc and the democrats. 70% of the public oppose this
nomination yet the GOP will likely ignore this to please the president. Once
placed on the supreme court he will have it for life no matter how he treat's
the rights of minorities and others.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 05, 2018, 12:20:23 pm
The hearing continues to investigate the nominee for the supreme court.
Listening to the nominee you could almost see a Halo over his head. If he
stands by his word he would likely make a good judge for the court, but it's
likely he is spreading it on thick. Those senators should be wearing their hip
boots.

It was even suggested the nomniee was guilty of having stolen emails in
the past. Unfortuantly the chairman isn't allowing further investigation on
this subject.

Just like most politicians the nominee tries to laugh off serious issues.
Also the man is doing all he can to steal time from the Senators with
long answers when a yes or no would suffice. Then when a senator
from the GOP asked questions he is quick to answere. Not wanting
to steal their time. Probably  because they are trying to make him
look like a angel. It's likely he is a dark angel instead.

Not only we shouldn't be putting a nominee from a president under
investigation for breaking the law. We shouldn't be putting a man
of such tender years on the supreme court. Giving this position to a
young man is a mistake. If the turned out to be a bad judge we will
have to live with him for many years. On the other hand if he turns
out to not agree with the policies of the GOP with his rulings  they
will have to livewith him for many years.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 06, 2018, 12:33:43 pm
There was a news report that President Trump is so incompetent and has
by staff kept from doing or making decisions that would hurt him or the
country. Orders to the military to assassinate people in other countries
and even a leader of a foreign country. Weren't done because it made no
since, or could have started a war. In the report it was said that Trump can't
remember what he does or even says. It appears a group of staff and members
in the cabinet are covering for the president.  Trump has went nuts after
seeing the report and demanded names claiming national security. Well
he can demand, but I doubt if he gets any names though.

Trump can fuss if he wants, but he has shewn himself to be a incompetent
idiot. He tries to say he has done more than any other president to make
the country better.. It's obvious he hasn't.  His ranting a raving shows him
to be a disturbed individual. We can only hope others will keep him under
control. He is good at selling himself, but has no idea how to run
democratic society or government. Gut responses are just guesses. We
need a president that works with facts, not by his guts. It was his guts
that apparently caused him to go bankrupt several times.

The hearing continues for the supreme court nominnation, but other than
a obvious cover up by Trump and the GOP  I have little to say. One has to
wonder what is in the  thousands and thousands of documents the GOP
doesn't want the public to see. After all this is a lifetime job, not a judge
of a beauty contest.

Conservatives teak well of the Federalist society. Well the society is nothing
more than bunch of elitists dedicated to keep the country conservative,
and lately to the far right. President Trump is following their list
of hard line conservatives to be nominated for the federal courts. The
GOP has done everything they could to stall nominations of moderate
judges and save the position for hard line conservatives. The GOP is scared
to death that the country is moving toward socialism. This is why they have
plans to get rid of  social security and medicare. Something they have
wanted to do since they were implimented years ago.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 07, 2018, 11:42:44 am
Seems Trump can't stand it if someone doesn't lie for him. He wants
people he hires to lie for him. He wants the media to lie for him. 
Writers of books are supposed to lie for him too. He doesn't want 
to hear the real facts, just the facts according to Trump. He told 
 his supporters to only believe him. This from a man who won't tell
the leader of Russia to stop interfering with our country. Apparently
because he doesn't want people to think Russia helped him win.

Even though president Trump pulled out of the nuclear agreement with
Iran, the rest of the world hasn't. Trump seems to want a conflict with
Iran. Why would he want to set fire to the middle east with a war with
Iran? Only Trump knows. Hopefully it isn't due to a dumb campaign
promise. 

Apparently Russia is preparing to clean out the remainder of the
Syrian rebels. To do so they will have to push out or attack American
Troops in the area. A few months ago Russian fighters attacked our
Troops and lost over 300 volunteer fighters in the process. So what
will happen if they try to attack our Trooops again? If we stand against
the Russians where would it lead? Will Trump pull our Troops out so Russia
can kill the rebels and their families? Only time will tell. 

The midterm election is only 2 months away.. If you wish to see a cleaner
enviroment or better health insurance that pays the medical bills., or a
better life for you can your kids . Get out and vote.  If you don't the rich
and powerful will step on you. They want more money and more power no 
watter who it hurts as long as itisn't them.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 08, 2018, 12:19:15 pm
President Trump said he fell asleep listening to Obama when he spoke out about him
and the GOP.  I know I fall asleep a bit more than I used to. So perhaps it's a sign he
is feeling his age. I undersant he drives his golf cart almost to the flag to keep from
walking. Perhaps  he is getting too old for the job if he can't stay awake.

Ever notice when president Trump complainsabout someone who makes him look bad 
or wants to change something it's due to national security?  It's because the president
has more authority if it's about national security. Apparently his lawyers have informed
him of this. It's this that gives Trump the feel of an autocrat. Something that Trump dearly 
would like to be.

The Trump administration has failed to return immigrant children to their parents. around
500 of them. Many of their parents have been sent back to central America. They were
tricked into signing documents that allowed the government to separate them. The business
of separating children from their parents was Trumps idea. Treating human children like
animals stolen from their parents. I find it hard to understand why his supporters still
see Trump as anything but a despicable excuse for a human being.

Did president Trump apologize for not giving Puerto Rico the help they as Americans
needed? No! he just continued to say he did a great job even though almost 3000 
americans died because he didn't do his job. He could have sent the military there
to help all who needed it. I think it's because they weren't lilly white like he thinks
all Americans should be.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 09, 2018, 12:47:26 pm
The man the GOP wants to put in the supreme court seems to have
shown he isn't totally honest. Even with the help of the GOP. Seems
the GOP leadership will do all they can to turn the supreme court into
a politically conservative body. They court should be a moderate
court. Not liberal or conservative. Several rights of minorities, women,
handicapped, and the LGBT will likely be lost with this appointment.

With the midterm elections looming on the horizon the people of this
country need to know there are two lines of force in this country. Or
any democratic society. One is money, and the other is the voters.
Money will always win if the people don't get out and vote. With more
Voters we would see lower drug costs and medical costs in general.

Money is sued to con the voter, using human greed and fear to gain
and hold power. Money wants fewer voters. Voters are the enemy.

This is why the GOP fights to stop socialist ideas. Money fears socialism.
Those who have money feel socialist ideas will steal their lovely money.
Money is an addictive drug to the rich. The more they have, the more they
want. Not because they need it. Most billionaires are wanting to be the
first trillionaire. So he or she can stand on that mountain of greed and
shout it to the world.

There is nothing wrong with money, it's the love of it that drives the
rich to acts of greed. It takes regulations to control greed. The GOP
has been bought and pad to protect the bank accounts of the rich.
That's not to say there isn't any democrats who have fallen prey to
money,. Because they have. We the voter must be diligent to
ferret them out no matter what party they claim to follow.

In spite of claims by the GOP and others Socialist ideas make the
country stronger. Sure taxes will be higher, but government services
pay it back if your need arises. People in desperate need will committ
crimes. They get sicker due to hunger and the lack of proper clothing
and a decent place to live. Most religions require helping the poor. Yet
many who call themselves religions will look the other way when a
person is in need. People like President Trump and many in the GOP
want to call them lazy and loosers. Some obviously are, but it's
cheaper to give them aid than putting them in prison.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 10, 2018, 12:43:03 pm
President Trump and the GOP continue to claim they are responsible for
the jobs and the economy. Even though the economy and job numbers
had been growing for years under Obama and was still growing when
it was handed over to Trump.

Since President Trump took over he has done little or nothing to help
 the economy. He and the GOP are still riding the crest of the wave
started by Obama. Counting inflation the average American has
seen little if any increase in buying power since Trump has been in
office.

It is true many workers got bonuses after the big tax cut for the
rich and big business was passed. Though they don't want to talk 
about the thousands who have lost jobs and were fired by the same
companies who gave  bonuses to some. It would seem some of the
 business leaders agreed to hand out bonuses for the benifit of the
GOP. Because most businesses use the tax savings to buy back
stock instead of giving raises in pay to workers. So much for trickle
down economics.

Now with the trade war Trump has started it's likely many will see
costs increase and more job losses in the future. Trouble is it will
likely happen after the midterm election. Then if the democrats
take over one or both houses of congress. Trump and the GOP will
try to blame any down turn of the economy on the democrats.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 12, 2018, 12:29:41 pm
The other day Trump started making fun of how people in the south talk. That southern
drawl we are used to hearing. I wonder how his supporters in the south liked that? Some
may just use the excuse that Trump was talking about his Attorney General instead.


President Trump says the government is ready for hurricane Florence. Well for the sake of
the people in the storms path I hope it's better than it was for Puerto Rico last year, who
saw 3000 deaths due to what Trump calls a success.

At the beginning of this years hurricane season Trump had 10 million dollars moved from
Fima to ICE. Seems Trump is more worried about ICE having enough money to put kids of
immigrants in cages than to help Americans recover from storm damage.

Fima managers say they have almost a million meals, and supplies. Well that might last a
couple days. The trouble is Trump hired his Rich friends to fill government jobs instead of
people who know how to do the work. Some of them are just money grubbers  that
don't know how to manage anything but a country club golf match.

Trump only wants to look good for his voters, and nothing else. Many of those in the
path of the storm voted for Trump so he may bend over backwards helping them. Especially
 the midterm election in under two months.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 12, 2018, 04:03:04 pm
Quote
President Trump says the government is ready for hurricane Florence. Well for the sake of
the people in the storms path I hope it's better than it was for Puerto Rico last year, who
saw 3000 deaths due to what Trump calls a success.

At the beginning of this years hurricane season Trump had 10 million dollars moved from
Fima to ICE. Seems Trump is more worried about ICE having enough money to put kids of
immigrants in cages than to help Americans recover from storm damage.

Link:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/12/politics/fema-ice-funding-hurricane-florence/index.html

EDIT: Another news link.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/12/politics/ice-more-money-fema-dhs/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 13, 2018, 12:33:35 pm
Thanks for those links Kobuk.

As usuall President Trump is fixated on saying how great he was during
last years hurricanes. How great a job was done in Puerto Rico, and
other American states.

We can hope he will wake up and realize we have a new hurricane to deal with.
He can defend his mistakes he made later. Of course we know he never makes
mistakes. It's always someone else to hear him talk. Heck he might decide to
play golf this weekend. He probably will think his work is done by then.

During his campaign he said he would spend all his time in the white house. 24/7.
Instead he has been gone a third of the time. Off to play golf or visit
with his rich friends.

After he was elected he wanted the treasury dept to start printing more money.
Seems he didn't understand printing money would only lower the value of the dollar
and nothing else. This is just one of many dumb ideas our so called smart new
 president has had.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: DutchWolf on September 13, 2018, 10:41:26 pm
From an outsider's standpoint and point of view, primarily one from an EU viewpoint anyway.

The perspective here from people in the EU is that the it does not really matter who govern's the U.S government as president. Regardless of democrat or republican, the same policies are continued regardless of prior political promises during the campaign.

I am really no fan of Trump, As i was not a fan of "lets blow the russians up" hillary either at the time with her weird blackouts and involuntary spasms that made me of the firm belief she should not be either in charge of a nuclear arsenal. Not to mention all the skeletons in the closet she should answer for. Benghazi would be the first she needs to be trialed for in court.

Both where unsuitable and incapable to be leaders, yet the system does not allow more than two candidates.

And each presidential candidate says one thing during campaigns, but as soon they take office. they revert back to "business as usual" as it always have been U.S Policy. Barack Obama was hailed as a peacemaker when he was elected in the E.U. Berlin was packed with people to see him. instead he bombed more country's with means of covert warfare than his predecessor did.

Trump campaigned on the same promise to withdraw the U.S millitary's from confict zones, and again. they are kept in place and instead of de-escalating. situations are escalated millitarily with potentially dangerous and unpredictable, uncontrollable outcomes.

how can two politicians from two radical different directions of the political spectrum, that both campaigned on the promise of peace, take office and switch within a short ammount of time to pro-war?.

What makes the E.U for example to question the U.S position in the world is not Trump itself. it is for example Trump making promises with E.U Leaders and with Leaders like Erdogan of Turkey and Putin of Russia. and for exampe Bolton follows shortly after and he contradicts everything and takes a hostile tone with Russia instead.

It results in both in geopolitical ally and enemy alike question who really is in charge of U.S foreign policy. 

i am not sure how this all is viewed on in the U.S, but the rest of the world views this as the U.S being highly unstable in regards of political leadership and its consistency with its constant appearance of undermining authority of its president and letting it appear as there is an "deep state" element really at play at the level of govenment decision making. From who will come the order?. some war-hawk? or the legitimate goverment?.

For Europeans, we cant go to the supermarket and not run in an war monument of some battle. we are still clearing up the landmines from world war2. when we want to put a railway down we find another massive WW2 bomb we need to disarm and our bomb technicians are sitting there with the sweat in their cracks because this thing has been rottting there for 50 years.

Europeans think very long and very hard now if a decision made overseas from the safety of the Pentagon/congress/White House is in the best interrests of Europe.

Even for a short domestic example, that Trump switched on the money printer's. it is true, he actually did that. and it will not fix the problem.

But, when the U.S has been a state of non-stop war even before 2001. how much do you think that costs?. to fly and ship everything in from half across the world from factory to deployment zone?. for almost 20 years now?.  It is known in the world that the U.S waged its war on terror in China's creditcard. and now China want to see their interrest rate returns.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

As to clarify my opinions and points of views, i am by no way an american hater. i got dozens of friends in the U.S. some of them get even attacked for expressing their concerns with U.S (foreign) policies and/or politics and get stamped as being not patriots and being traitors. while such people even served in combat roles and risked life and limb for their country.

i feel free speech and debate should be possible. regardless if those debates might adress sensitive topics. and that is why i wrote this as a reply.



 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 14, 2018, 12:27:53 pm
President Trumps ex campign manager agreed to work with the special
counsel for a reduced prison sentance. I wonder if Trump will try to
pardon the man expecting it to shut him up. Well that could start a
legal merry go around as the special counsel can force him to answer
questions under threat of jail. No 5th amendment protection once
 pardoned. Trump can keep trying to  save him, but
it will look very suspicious after while.


Thank you Dutch Wolf. This country has a problem in that the billionair class
want to run the country. When humans become super rich they of course
want to protect their wealth. So they try to keep the party in power who
will do the best job of it. Or a president who will.

President Trump to me was the worst of two choices for president. Because
he is a egomaniac. H Clinton may have been a poor choice, but she had a
record of helping people. Unlike Trump who only helps himself. Trump appears to
have a mental problem in that he can't concentrate on anything for long. He
 doesn't appear to be able to  see anything in depth. An idea pops in this
head and he wants to go with it. Even if it may cause a lot of harm to the
country over time. A good president looks for and takes advice from people
who know the facts. Not deciding because it sounds good.

It's good to hear the European point of view from a European instead of
the news where we hear their point of view. We are lucky in our courtry
 where we don't have to worry about being blown up everytime a backhoe
digs it's bucke into the ground. We do find a cannon ball from our civil war,
some of which can explode. But they are few.

I agree we shouldn't be using China's money to keep our country afloat. But
our political parties like to play who can spend or save the most money. The GOP
cuts taxes for the rich claiming it will make jobs. Which it has little effect. The
Democrats want to rasie taxes to balance the budget. The last time we had a
 balanced budget was during the Clinton administration.

So instead of continuing to keep a balanced budget the GOP unbalanced it
when they took power. Of course the 911 attack required a military responnse,
but President Bush decided to attack Iraq to  help big oil in this country. Using
the excuse that Iraq was building weapons of mass distruction. This war
totally unbalanced power in the middle east, and we have been paying for it ever
since.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 15, 2018, 12:59:24 pm
President Trump is running out of people who will lie for him. Eight people who worked
in Trumps campaign have pled guilty of  federal crimes. If it had been one or two we might
overlook it as a problem anyone could get caught up in. But for a man who said he was
going to hire the best people it's looking pretty bad. If these people are an example of
what Trump thinks are the best, we have a serious problem. Trump appears to think
 criminals do the best job. Granted some politicians turn out to be crooks, but at least
they are rare.

So far the Trump administration is doing a good job with rescue following hurricane
Florence. The storm is still in progress so how it al lends will take time.  There are 
people in Texas who are still waiting on Fima to help them out. That's from last year.
That doesn't include Fima's mess in Peurto Rico.

With the midterm election looming I think we can be sure those affected by this storm
will get some of the best help ever fromthe GOP and Trump.

The sexual impropriety by the nomiee for the supreme court is being
call a last minute attempt to prevent his appointment. Personally I think
it was held back to see if it was needed. After all the lade who is making
the accusation knows the GOP and Trump will try to call it a lie. 

Just more evidence the GOP puts their agenda above morality and the
rights of minorities, women, handicapped and the LGBT. This doesn't
count the GOP's efforts to let big business damage the environment. Not
counting their denial of global warming. They know a conservative
supreme court will help them achieve their goals.

It's all about keeping power. They know as the country becomes more
deverse they must limit voting to those who support them. Otherwise
their power will be lost, likely forever with less than a third of voters.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 16, 2018, 12:14:44 pm
President Trump is cutting off aid to  Christian refugees in Israel. He claims they
 arn't real refugees. I think it's because they have dark skin instead of white.
Trump has a history of not wanting to help people of color. This will likely cause
more trouble in the middle east instead of helping. Palestinians are not going to
settle for a one state answer. They want to decide their own fate, not what
Trump thinks they should.

It's day four as hurricane Florence crawls across the Carolina's. Downgraded
to a tropical storm it's still  dumping rain hour after hour. Wind gusts toppling
trees on power lines and houses. Some places may be without power for a month.
or more.

Will President Trump try to play politics with Hurricane Florence? I wouldn't be
surprised as he is with last years hurricane that hit Puerto Rico. I have already
heard GOP members bragging on how much help Trump has been to them. It is
great these people are getting the help they need, but phone calls require
very little effort on Trumps part. He plans going to areas where the hurricane
hit. I have a hunch he will turn the visits into campign speeches for the GOP and
himself.

The GOP (Just say no party) when Obama tried to push for infrastructure repair
wouldn't do anything fearing it would make President Obama look good. So
now people are being flooded in part due to dams needing repair and can't
be used to help with flood control.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 17, 2018, 12:19:51 pm
The GOP can pat them selves on the back, because in Texas they decided to remove Helan Kellar from
third grade history books. Shows how much they care about the handicapped. This woman who was
both blind and deaf created braille. A touch accessible form of printing so the blind could read. I guess
they don't want kids learning that some people can't see to read. Kids should be taught that even with
serious handicaps, people can add to society. Look at Steven Hawkins. Even though he couldn't move
or talk on his own added greatly to the scientific community.

The Presidents nominee for the supreme court is calling the woman who said he sexually assaulted her a
lier. He has been at the White house so perhaps Trump has been telling him how to lie. We know
Trump desperately wants this man on the supreme court to protect him. You suppose he has swore a
loyalty oath to  Trump? It's a fact the man really wants the job, so I am sure he will say anything to
get the votes. He has already put himself under suspicion of lieing to congress.

The GOP should stand up on their hind feet and tell Trump to pick another. But no, they are afraid of
his tweets. The entire list Trump got from the federalist society  will fit the bill, but Trump wants a
fixer on the supreme court. Otherwise he might be kicked out of office, and sent to jail. Trump doesn't
care how much pain or loss of rights this man might cause as a hard right conservative.

I imagine as it was the appointment of Clarence Thomas this nominee will be believed
over the woman. The committee who will decide has 11 old men (GOP), some of which
 might be guilty of similar acts in their past. It's time we had more women making
congressional decisions and laws.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 18, 2018, 01:27:32 pm
President Trump is wanting to release secret documents claiming it will show
 what started the investigation of his campaign and it's involvement with Russia.
This information will likely reveal secrets that may hurt the country. Trump doesn't
care as long as it helps him. It's likely  Trump is hoping it will disrupt the special
counsels investigation of him.

Will the GOP give the woman who has accused the supreme court nominee
of sexual assault a hard time? If they do it will likely enrage women accross
the nation.  Trump and the GOP are complaining  that this woman should have
come forward months ago. I suppose it would have been fine if it had been
revealed after the man took office. That would  have been an embarrassment to
 the court.

The GOP and Trump don't want the FBI to investigate the accusation  because
it would delay the appointment.  They wantt to use the appointment to get
votes.  in the midterm election..

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 19, 2018, 11:59:20 am
Will President Trump go on a firing spree after the election? He is still calling his attorney
general names, and is mad because he won't defend him by stopping the special counsels
investigation.

The GOP and Trump are unwilling to investigate the claim of assault by the supreme court
nominee. Reports say he was a drunk and chased after girls in high school. Also believed
 men should show their sexual dominance over women. Also said it's best for him and
others to keep their extra curricular activities quiet to this day. He can claim he was a
wild kid, but I think most of us would admit we haven't changed a great deal since
our late teens. To mee this shows what the mans base feelings about women are.


President Trump is showing the flag in the Carolinas today. Telling everyone how much
help he is ready to give them. Trump says the words, but there is no empathy in his heart
for them. This storm gives him an opertunity to gain or keep votes. You can be sure any
interaction between the public has been planned. They showed someone driving up
beside the president. There is no way the secrete service would allow anyone to do
that unless it was planned with a government driver posing as a storm victim.

I  wonder how long Trump will keep those affected in mind? In a couple months the election
will be over and I wouldn't be surprised if these people are forgotten. Just like those who suffered
losses in last years hurricanes. Many of which are still waiting on Fima to help. This storm caused
multiple billions in damage, so it will take congressional action to provide the funding.

Personally I never could understand why people want to see our leaders at a disaster. Now
a century ago I could see why people might want to as it shows the leader knows and cares.
 Now days with all the media attention they already know what a leader is doinng. Not just a face
in the distance for most. In the past it was a real caring effort to show up at a disaster. Now it's
a walk in the park. Less effort than playing golf.  I am not directly picking on Trump, but the
money could be better spent helping people. No matter who is running the government.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 20, 2018, 12:13:16 pm
President Trump and the GOP are pushing to pass another tax cut. They claim it
will bring even more money back into the country. They say big business  will
invest trillions of these dollars here. Well so far the big tax cut of last year has
only brought back 12% of the money Trump and the GOP claimed it would.
This is  a high estimate at that. I doubt if big business has Trillions of dollars,
much less bring it back. It's just another tax cut for the rich, and Trump. 

If the GOP holds power after the election they will pass their tax cut and put 
more conservative judges in the court system. They will cut medicaid, social 
security, and medicare. They have been wanting to do this for many years.
They will use the excuse that there isn't enough money and have to make
the cuts. Yet they have the money to cut taxes for big business and the
richest of us all.

The chairman of the judicial committee has set a deadline at 10am on Friday for
the woman to give them a written testimony about the sexual assault she has
claimed against the nominee for the supreme court.  Otherwise they will proceed
with a vote recommending the man for the supreme court.

Is this a test of will by the GOP senate? Or do they really plan to ignore such an
act by their nominee? Are they betting this would be the least of their problems.
11 old men may decide that this woman is just confused. It would be a repeat
of how they treated Anita Hill in 1991. Seems when men gain wealth or power
they feel they can push women around like a slaves. They hold the promise of
advancment of better jobs for sexual favors. Or the threat of loosing a good
job if they refuse.

It's time women stood up to show men they arn't just a peice of meat laid
out for a mans enjoyment. If they don't it will continue as it has for centuries.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 21, 2018, 12:55:12 pm
North Korea is asking for more concessions to denuclearize. Well they are apparently still building
bombs and missles. It's very likely the leader of N Korea is testing Trump. He knows Trump wants a
win. He also knows Trump will bend to his will as long as he helps Trump look good. Hopefully
Trump doesn't do somthing stupid if he finds out he has been made a fool of.

The GOP are worried over this supreme court nomination. They see to think if they don't appoint
this man their base will feel disappointed in them. There isn't any reason to put this terrible individual
on the supreme court. Trump has a long list of hard right conservatives for the court.

The evangelical community supports this man saying he is a good man and has been for many years. Well
they have no room to talk. So called good evangelical people have killed others, some with the excuse
of saving babies. Since the supreme court allowed abortion in the learly 1970's the number of abortions has
dropped. Also many women were dieing getting abortions in back allies and by trying to do it themselves.
I am not a fan of abortion, but I think that should be between a woman and her GOD, not by government
decree. Unfortunately some  people think they know what a god wants them to do, even to kill.

President Trump came out and said why didn't this woman make a complaint to the police when
she was supposedly attacked? Unfortunately many men feel this way. Well not being a
woman they really shouldn't think they know how women feel when assaulted by anyone.

Many men have a bad habit of supporting each other under these conditions. It's likely due to not
wanting to give up their imagined dominance  over women. A historical control by men women
have had to live with down through time. Many women are still taught to use men's ego to survive,
and keep the peace at home. Over the last 50 years many women have been fighting for their
rights as being equal to men. They have made gains,  but it is a slow hard fight as many men feel
women belong in the home. Some men take their role as a bread winner so serious, they will commit
 suicide after killing wife and children if they fail. It seems some men are hard wired to think they should
dominate women. Many women are running for political office this year. They must not be discuraged
if they loose, because men won't give up control without a fight.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 22, 2018, 12:14:13 pm
The GOP talks about the socalled "Deep State". Trouble is there is one behind
the GOP. There are several supporting non elected groups working to shape the
government in their image, and they are using the GOP to do it. Both parties have
similar supporters, but it's mainly the GOP who has the "Deepest State".

It seems the deputy attorney general is accused of trying to remove the president
using the 25th amendment of the constitution. He denies it, but you can be sure
it pains Trump a lot to  think someone he picked could be so disloyal.  Will Trump
fire him? Or will Trump wait till after the election to purge his administration.

Many of the people Trump has hired have an agenda of their own. So Trump shouldn't
be surprised if they turn against him. It's likely why this white house has had the highest
number of leaks to the press than any other.

Will the GOP hurt themselves by putting a man who is accused of trying to rape a
young woman on the supreme court? Do they think the public doesn't care what he
may have done? The leader of the senate is saying he doesn't care because the
country needs a conservative court. The GOP leadership have gotten themselves
in a corner and have to push for this man or risk loosing votes during the midterm.
If it continues without a vote they may decide to move on to a man who they can
put in without so much controversy. Only time will tell.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 23, 2018, 12:46:39 pm
The GOP is the party of the richest Americans, so of course they are going to be against
socialistic ideas. They don't care if women have abortions or not. In fact they would just
send a wife or daughter to another country if she wanted an abortion.  Abortion is just
a way to get votes for a party that does little for the public at large. They are against
the LGBT to get more votes. Truth be known many powerful man pay for sex. Some go to
the far east to abuse young girls that are forced into sex slavery. These girls are then
either killed or tossed into the streets once they are no longer desirable.  Several years 
ago a woman who was in the business of providing women for sex to those in government.
 She threatened to expose her clientele. She was apparently paid off as the public
was never told who her clients were.

It would be interesting to know if any of those on the judicial  committee or the
 nominee was on that womans list. Perhaps even Trump. We will likely never know.
People of money and power work hard to protect these dirty secrets.

It appears the woman who is accusing the supreme court nominee of rape  will testify in
front of the senates judicial committee. It seems the 11 republican senators want to hide
behind a woman lawyer who will ask the questions instead. 11 brave men who are afraid
of a woman they want to call a lier or confused. Some say they can't let a accusation ruin
the nominees life. This is ridiculous as he already has a job as a federal judge. A job many
lawyers would love to have.

It's time we put people in congress who care more about the country than their party. There
isn't anything wrong with standing up for those who elected them, but the average voter
 doesn't have enough information to make a good decision on issues that may affect millions
of people. Trump has put up tariffs to help the steel industry. This may be good for thousands
of  steel workers, but bad for millions of other workers.  This is why we don't let the public vote
for every little thing. The average person often lets emotion control his/her judgements. We expect
those we elect to study the issues and facts, unlie Trump who uses his gut or his emotions to  decide.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 24, 2018, 12:16:10 pm
The GOP and Trump continue to bad mouth the woman who claimed Trumps nominee for
the supreme court raped her. As time goes by pressure from the public continue to 
increase. They want the GOP to NOT approve him for the court. So will the GOP take the
hit by approving him ore back down hoping it's the least of two evils? Of course they
to worry about bad tweets from Trump as well.

 President Trump will be speaking at the United Nations soon.  We can always wonder if he
can follow the teleprompter, or will he go off on a tanget. Last year he was bad mouthing
the north Korean leader and Iran. It will be interesting to see what is up his sleeve this year.

The deputy attorney general has been called to the white house. There is speculation he is being
asked to resign. Could be since Trump isn't there. We know Trump doesn't have the guts to
personally fire anyone. No matter what happens I think it's just another diversion tactic by
Trump to move the new subject off his supreme court nominee.

Even if the deputy attorney general is fired or resigns it won't save Trump from the investigation.
The speical counsel will have moved data to other proceuters around the country. Trump might
think he can put a yes man in h is place, but it doesn't work that way. The next man down the
line gets the job of handling the special counsel, not a new deputy attorney general. The president
could change this policy, but it would add to the appearance of self protection by Trump.

Of course we know Trump has been fretting about the investigation of his campaign and it's
connection to Russia. So it would be no surprise if he turns the Justice department upside down
trying to  stop it. Who ever gave the president control over the justice department made a big
mistake. One would have thought that congress would have limited presidential power over
the justice department after what President Nixon did. 


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 26, 2018, 12:36:08 pm
A third woman has come out to accuse the supreme court nominee of sexual misconduct.
Not in a mild way either.  Even if he was only present while others committed these acts
it makes him look bad because he has denied anything of the sort, and should be disqualified
 to be on the supreme court or any court. Will the GOP ignore these accusations without
investigations? If they do they are not fit to be senators of our fine country.

Single party control of our country is dangerous to our way of life. Single party control 
leads to excess where members of any party can feel they can and should do whatever
they want. Single party control doesn't allow for compromise or moderation. It doesn't
allow for anything claiming they have a right to do whatever they want. Over the past
two years we  have experienced much of what I just said. The GOP has ignored or
changed rules to get their way. When asked they just say we won so it's our right. 
The only reason they won is because too many people failed to vote, or were prevented
from voting, by the GOP.

President Trump tried to say the laughs he got at the UN were with him not at him. Well
he can think that way if he wants, but they were laughing at him. The first time ever
that a president of this country was laughted at while speaking at any official event.

Trump can't help but brag on himself when he speaks. His yes men in the GOP rarely
every tell him the truth, so he probably was surprised to hear anything but a loud
cheer as he usually gets at the rallys that are set up to make him look great. It seems
his supporters don't want to believe any thing bad about him. Some admit Trump lies,
but they just say all politicians do that. Well that is true, but usually not while the facts
are staring them in the face as Trump does.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 27, 2018, 12:38:31 pm
The GOP is holding a hearing supposedly to find out if the nominee is telling the truth when he
said he didn't attack Mrs. Ford.  After listening to the hearing it was obvious they were trying to
cast doubt on Mrs Fords memory of the event. This shows a lack of respect of women by making
it seem that women lie when it comes to sexual encounters.

Though the woman asking questions  for the  gutless GOP members of the committee. Mrs Ford
showed to have a good memory even though she was tested time and time again. No sign  or
confusion of the facts inspite of the GOP's several attemps to cause it.

The chairman lied when he said the committee always does it's own investigations. Though
limiting time for the members of the committee the chairman interrupted several times trying 
to make excuses for the GOP and the committee's actions. If the GOP and President Trump
should be ashamed to let this go on. They should  pull this man as he apparently has a ugly
pattern of behavior in how he treats women. Even while making  decisions as a federal
court judge. Perhaps he should even be removed trom that job as well.

Instead Trump and the GOP have gone to the extent of trying to come up with others
that will lie saying it was them that attacked her. They are doing as much damage to the
nominee as they are to her with this travesty of justice.

This hearing is just another in many hearings where the GOP has tryed to make those
who oppose them look bad. They will lie and or misrepresent anything to get their way.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 28, 2018, 12:28:19 pm
It's all about politics cries the GOP after the hearing yesterday. The democrats don't want the nominee
because he isn't a democrat.  I thought it was odd the GOP members decided to get rid of their hired
speaker when she started asking the nominee questions about the facts relevent to the accusation. Did
that mean they thought she was a democrat in disguise.  The nominee called Fords testimoney a political
smear campaign by the democrats. The chairman said he would be glad to have the committee investigate 
these other accusations. Well it's  very likely they would be partisan investigations as it always is when
political parties are involved. The chairman should have informed Trump to have the FBI investigate other
accusations and witnesses if he still wanted them to consider the nominee for the supreme court.
Instead the chairman calls these other accusations a conspiracy to stall the process.


The nominee was well trained by Trump and his cronies to be a loud mouthed jerk. Just llike Trump is when
he speaks at his rallys. If this had been a nominee by H Clinton the republicans would have been criing foul.
They would have been wanting everyone investigated by the FBI.

I used to be a member of the GOP, but since Obama was elected the GOP has become a stranger to me.
All they want to do is run the country. To ignore the majority of the people of this courtry. To let religion 
decide laws. To use the Supreme court to advance their goals. To help the rich get richer. To blame
the poor for being poor. To blame the sick for being sick. They should be ashamed.  I know many
good people who vote for the GOP.  But it's the leadership of the party who works for the richest
Americans, big businee, and who knows who else. I could go on but one day we all will liky pay
for the  short sighted greedy decisions made by the people running this country.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 29, 2018, 12:37:37 pm
I know my writings have been largly my opinion, but over the last few weeks the news has been mostly political.
I fear it will be untill after the election. I will try to be more about the news in the meantime.

President Trump commented that he thought the nominee did well with  his strong response. Well running
for political office and running to be a judge are two different things. A judge needs to show a calm demeanor
not fiery. A person who can't stay calm under pressure can't be trusted to  make good decisions.

Well it seems there will be a FBI investigation after all. I wonder though, will they have free rein over their
investigation or has Trump limited it in a way to [protect the nominee? Or will the GOP look at the report and
say "I don't care" and vote for the nominee anyway? The nominee's credibility has some serious problems
even discounting his sexual habits. The GOP however is basically stating we don't care what he has done.
We were elected to run the senate, so live with it.

I might be able to live with it if the GOP would accept the reverse when the democrats control the senate.
Instead they cry like little kids having a temper tantrum when they don't get their way. The GOP senate leader
mad a threat to the democrats when they changed the rules. Say he would make them pay, just like a school
yard bully. The GOP has done all it could to keep  moderate judges out of the federal court system. They claim
every judge is a liberal working for the far left. Yet the moment they gain power they start putting far right
conservative judges in power. Not moderate ones, but hard line conservatives.

It was the GOP who changed the rules to approve a
supreme court judge with a simple majority. It had required 60 votes before. Simple majority rule is a
poor way to legislate. It is generally used by people who don't really deserve control. Worthwhile
legislation can get more than 50% support. This includes people approved for a powerful job.

There has only been one supreme cour judge impeached in our countries history. He was an associate judge.
The senate didn't vote to  remove him though. The charge was for being too political. Perhaps this nominee
will be impeached if he tries to play politics in the future. In spite of the GOP this country is moving towared
the democrats way of thinking and away from the GOP. So in 10 years or so there may be a house cleaning
of hard liners who deny peoples human rights.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 30, 2018, 12:31:30 pm
It's no wonder the world is laughing at Trump. At his last rally he claimed the North
Korean leader loved him. Claimed he and the North Korean leader argued then
fell in love with him. This is ridiculous, the leader of North korean loves no one
but himself and his power.

The GOP talks about the Deep state. That is a good name for Fox News who owes
their existence to conservative billionaires. Or Trump news. If your a Trump supporter
you likely watch it. That's fine, but you bestter fact check everything they say. 
Because they are there to feed Trumps ego, and Trump isn't interested in anything
but fake facts that make him look good.


Just how far will Trump let the FBI investigate? It's likely many will say they can't
remember to not get involved. Will Trump and the GOP try to use this as an excuse
to ignore a report from the FBI? It's well known that Trump wants a fixer in the
Supreme Court. The nominee has likeluy already told Trump how he plans to
vote. His response in the hearing showed it. He was talking just like Trump. As
if he was reading a speach from one of Trumps rally's.  The supreme court isn't
about politics it's about justice. Otherwise it's just an arm of big business and
the rich, be they Americans or foreigners.   

Already reports say Trump has limited the FBI investigations to those who claimed
the nominee is a nice guy who never drank to excess.  Not to look into reports that
claim otherwise.  If this is the case the investigation is a joke. I personally think
the justice departtment should be an arm of the court not the president. I am sure
the framers of the constitution figured there was enough checks to  prevent misuse
by the president, but not under radical one party control.

Trump and the GOP claim they are trying to take back power from all those far left
democrats. Well the GOP have had the house for the past  8 years, and the senate
for 4 years. The only change was the office of president which they have had 
for almost 2 years now. So the claim that they  must take back power is mute. The
Democrats can't take power from anyone unless the voters give it to them.

Trump and the GOP are mainly reaching out to white voters. Generally people who
are in their 50's and older.  People who remember this country being mostly white.
Over they last 30 years we have seen a shift towar deversity. This scares many of
those older voters who fear change. They don't like the LGBT, or minorities given a
bit of an advantage to help them overcome prejucice by many americans. Trump uses
this to gain their votes. This group of people are dieing out and will mostly be gone
in a dozen years ro so. Then the GOP will have to change or be lost foreaver in the
dustbin of time.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 01, 2018, 12:27:56 pm
Contrary to reports Trump is claiming he hasn't restricted the FBI. Trump said it's up to the senate
to decide who is investigated. Well that's like letting a fox tell a farmer how to build his hen house.
The GOP senate isn't interested in finding the truth. They just want to say it's about the
democrats wanting to obstruct. 

Well president Trump is claiming he is responsible for a new trade agreement with Mexico and Canada.
Actually it's not much different than the old trade agreement. Trump used much of what Obama had been
working on. In other words Trump used most of Obamas ideas in this agreement. In fact Mexico and
Canada kept Trump from making the deal worse for everyone.  Basically it's the same deal with Trumps
name on it. I am sure he will hold it up to  his supporters as a big win for them. Unfortunately people
have to wait and see since we never know when Trump is telling the truth.

Trump made a big speach along with revealing the trade agreement. Saying it will be great for the
world. He can't stop trying to make one deal sound like a world deal. Everything he is so much
better for the American people. To hear Trump talk all his deals are the greatest ever done. It's no
wonder why people around the world laugh at Trump. North Korea is still building bombs and
missels even though Trump still claims he loves the North Korean leader.

Trump continues to increase tariffs that will hurt farmers and most Americans as Trumps trade
war will increase costs and send more jobs out of the ocuntry. The hatred of Obama by Trump
and the GOP hurts us all. To hear Trump talk every courntry in the worl takes advantage of us.
Just like every president before him was stupid. Trump doesn't seem to understand many of the
deals withoother countries was to let us have access to airspace and military bases. Deals aren't
always about just products, but treaties as well.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 03, 2018, 12:54:26 pm
The FBI investigation according to many reports has been limited to please Trump and the
GOP leaders. Even if they had been given a free hand Trump wouldn't likely accepted any
report that makes his nominee look bad, and the GOP senators are afraid of Trump and his
base of voters. So they want to approve Trumps nominee.

Trump a self made billionaire? A news report appears to show Trump is guilty of tax fraud
and cheating others. His riches mostly came from his father, not by good business.
Here is a link to a video that explains the report. Not just talk, but with
thousands of written records found.
https://youtu.be/OM9f2YAKIJg?t=745 (https://youtu.be/OM9f2YAKIJg?t=745)

President Trump was crediting Dr Ford for doing well during the hearing.
Now Trump during a rally in Missisippi trys to make Dr Ford out to be 
a incoherent fool led by the democrats to keep his nominee to the supreme
court from being approved.  Trump has no shame and will do anything to
win. The GOP appears to be following Trump like a flock of sheep.

People told me that Trump would change after elected, but he hasn't changed
at all. If anything he is getting worse. All he does is lie when he doesn't like
a news report. If congress doesn't pass a bill he wants it's always the
democrats fault, even thought the republicans own the house and senante.
They can pass anything over the objections of the democrats.

Trump has never respected women, so it's on real surprise to hear him run
women down for speaking out aagainst rape and harassment. Down thorugh
history women have been maligned for trying to  stand up for their rights.
Now Trump and the GOP are mad because women are speaking out and trying
to unseat many reppublicans. I SAY MORE POWER TO THE WOMEN !!!!


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 04, 2018, 12:52:31 pm
The investigation of the Nominee for the supreme court is in. As expected
it's a joke. The FBI had their hands tied by Trump and the GOP. They could
not follow up on any leads that might make the nominee look bad.  Now
the GOP and Trump are holding it up as reason to vote yes on the nominee.
I am sure Trumps supporters will feel the same. They only want to believe
the lies Trump feeds them.

This is just more evidence the GOP and Trump have no interest in the truth
unless it benefits their agenda. The leader of the senate was crying alligator
tears claiming the democrats were trying to  destroy the nominees reputation.
The leader of the senate made a speech saying the nominee was too good a
man for the senate to not approve for the supreme court. The leader of the
senate is nothing but a vindictive old man who feels the GOP should run the
country, and will do anything to help the GOP win, even if he has to lie. No
matter what the majority of the American people think. The GOP controlls
the senate an that is all that matters in his opinion.

The founders of our country warned against party politics. It's a shame they
didn't do more to protect our society from vindictive politicians. One
good way would have been setting up committee's with co chairmen
 using the top two parties. This would have made it harder for
one party to control investigations. Of course they didn't think any
congress would allow a man like Trump to stay in office. Much less
elected officials who care more about themselves than the country.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 05, 2018, 12:41:47 pm
The senate voted to proceed on a vote to approve Trumps nominee
for the supreme court. The leader of the senate set it for tomorrow,
october 6 2018.

To hear Trump and the GOP everyone who isn't a republican is a
far left liberal. Personally I take that as an insult. I, and I am
sure most democrats and Independents are moderates not far left
 liberals. It's due to how far to the right the GOP has moved over
the past 30 years.

I think when television became the media of choice for elected officials
to use for their campaigns changed who could control our country. Campigns
suddenly became very expensive to run. This gave rich supporters a way to
buy those who decide our laws and regulations. Many of those  who are
elected spen most of their time raising money for the next election. So it's
no wonder an elected official would be tempted by a lobbyist who has
a lot of money to offer. I think this is what is happening with Trumps
nominee. Big business wants a judge who will side with them in the
supreme court, are happy to pay for one. Think not? Trumps lawyer
accepted huge sums from big businss to have Trumps ear or how
he thinks about their business. They will spend millions to gain
an advantage.

The leader of the senat should have had a little bittie violin playing
when he talked about Trumps nominee for the supreme court.
Telling Americans how Terrible the democrats are treating the
nominee. Well it's not the democrats stalling the process. It's
their own members. All the democrats can do is use the senate
rules to remind all the senators of their duty, and oath.

The nominee made the claime that millions of dollars were being
spent to keep him out of the supreme court. Guess he forgot about
the millions being spent to put him there, but I very much doubt it.
Even a republican ex supreme court judge said the nomine should be
rejected. Not counting all the law professors and judges around the
country who say he should not be a judge on the supreme court. Not
because of his drunken escapades, but his temperament and partisan
statements in the hearing.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 06, 2018, 12:39:37 pm
It appears the GOP will approve Trumps nominee though he is accused
of rape and lieing to congress. The GOP and Trump don't care what
this man has done. Trump wants this man so he can protect him
as a justist in the supreme court, another fixer for Trump. It's
obvious that he has given his loyalty  to Trump so he can be given
the chance to serve on the court. A job he has wanted all his life.

President Trump ran for office by saying he wants to make America
great again. Well what he and the GOP feel is great has nothing to do
with jobs, or how much money the little person makes. It's about how
the country was in the 1950's. That's when it was great for them.

Blacks were treated like second class citizens. Latino's were called
wet backs, women were supposed to be home makers and nothing
else. The LGBT had to stay in the closet. In the 1960's the GOP could
see the changes coming. They were cought flat footed so it took a
few years for them to get their act together. It was the election of
Ronald Reagan that put the GOP on the path to the far right.

Prior to the 1980's the average person in America was gaining wealth
and security. Since then the average person has not gained , they have
lost security or wealth compared to inflation. This revolution has done
more to help the rich and big business than anyone else.
The GOP is mostly supported by only 1/3 of the American people.
As long as democrats and independants sit back and let 1/3 of the
peopole tell them what to do they will. This 1/3 is very dedicated to
hold power and to get their way. They will continue trying to block
the rest of us from gaining power, for they fear diversity where they
would have to share or loose power all together. If we don't use
our votes to protect our rights the 1/3 will continue to take them away.

We used to call people who don't vote the silent majority. Well as long
as they are silent nothing will change.  If people don't vote for change
the GOP will continue to make the rich richer and the poor poorer with
their agenda of reducing government to the bone. Charities do much to
help the needy, but only the governmetn can do the day to day help
that is needed. Prior to social security and medicare thousands of
elderly people suffered an died. There is no reason why the rich can't
help support those who helped them get rich in the first place. Left
to the rich, history has shown they will push the poor from sight.
Religions warns that the needy must be served, and the love ove of
money is a sin.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 07, 2018, 12:46:29 pm
Ok everyone who didn't vote in 2016 is reaping their reward, but if you
find it not to your liking you best go to the polls next month.

The GOP leader of the senate called those who didn't agree with the GOP
an angry mob. Why? Because they didn't stay home and leave the great
GOP do their business in peace. Well many in the GOP won't talk to
voters at home, so people have to come to washington to get their
attention. Want to see an angry mob? Just go to a Trump Rally where the
president encourages his followers to shout and chant. Trump sits on a
razor edge with a mob like that, because one word from him and many of
his supporters would riot and attack anyone who didn't follow them.

Those who voted for Trumps pick for the supreme court talked about how
bad he was treated and that he had a right to shout and cry. Because he
had been treated so bad. Perhaps he was, but how many of those same
people would have given a woman, a black man, or Latino the same
consideration? None, because no person who can't control them selves
should be a judge for anything. But the nominee was insulated from proper
judgement by Trump.

The GOP has few women members in congress. Only one sits as a chairwoman
on a minor committee in the Senate. If the GOP continues to belittle women and
minorites, they will disaoppear as a party. Thousands of those older white
Americans who support them die each year.

We have a fine new supreme court justice, it's a shame he is so partisan.
It will be interesting to see how much this changes the court. I am
sure the nominee had a big party over night. I wonder how drunk he
got? I wonder if his wife makes him sleep on the couch when he comes
home drunk?

I hear people who support Trump think Trump is smart when they hear
about his reported crimes of tax fraud.  I  guess they like paying his
taxes for him. It has been reported the Trump family failed to pay
almost 1/2 billion dollars in taxes over a 40+  year period. Seems to
me people would want those who commit crimes to be punished in
instead of praising them. I think people both envy and admire the
rich. They imagine if they were rich they would want special privileges 
and end up handing them to those they admire.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 08, 2018, 12:21:07 pm
I  sometimes think Trump had everyone in congress investigated prior to
running for president. We know he had Obama investigated. and during the
campaign he threatened a billionaire saying he knew things that might
be damaging. This is mob boss mentality if true. If a Senator or
Representative had a skeleton in his or her closet Trump could have
a lot of leverage with that information. Yes that would be blackmail,
but just a suggestion saying he knew something might be enoughto
change a vote in Trumps favor. In several cases congressional GOP members
who were not supportive of Trump were changed after a meeting with him.

The change may have only been due to a political threat, but it still
makes one wonder.

As I expected President Trump is planning to tell his base that democrats
plan to impeach him and the new supreme court justice if they take the
house of representatives. He feels it will help get his supporters out to
vote next month.

People should know even if both were impeached, there isn't enough votes
in the senate to remove them from office. It would take 67 votes in a senate
that at best would only have 51 or 52 democrats after the election. That
doesn't mean the democrats will sit on their hands and not start investigations
into GOP coverups. That is what Trump and the GOP fear most.

Trump is still saying the democrats treated his nominee terribly. Well  I
think most of us know Trump only wants people to believe his lies and not
the real truth. The democrats only wanted the facts to come out, and
not be a part of a cover up to approve Trumps nominee.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 09, 2018, 12:57:52 pm
The GOP is going out of it's way calling people who spoke out against them
guilty of being angry mobs. GOP leaders and Trump are saying all the conflict
over the supreme court nomination is gving the GOP a big
boost in voter support.

After the swaring in ceremony Trump made a speech apologizing for how bad
the nominee was treated by those Americans who opposed his nomination.. 
Very presumptuous of  our president. I have a hunch many would have said
he isn't speaking for me.

Trump is heading out to do his favorite job. Campaigning!! He loves all those
cheers and chants his supporters give him. All he does is talk about himself.
About how much he has done for the country. Sadly it's virtually all lies and
made up stories. Farmers can thank their lucky stars for the midterm election.
Otherwise Trump would have done little to help offset the tariff damage done to
their income. Trump would have made a great carnival barker, but after two
years as president he would do better sitting on the seat of a dunking booth.

President Trumps ambassador to the United Nations is resigning at the end
of this year. She and Trump made a speech in front of the press. Trump was
full of hearts and flowers toward her. So something is in the works. Trump
doesn't go out of his way to speak nicely about someone unless it's to benefit
himself. Perhaps he plans to give big job to a senator from her state and let
her be a fill in senator. All trying to please women in the GOP.

She was stroking Trumps ego for somereason anyway. So time will tell.

Trump apparently is going to meet with the N Korean leader in the near future.
All we can do is wonder what concession Trump is planning to offer to him. S
Korea is working hard to make business deals with N Korea. Trump was talking
about all the businessmeen who were ready to invest in N Korea. He nevre tells
who might be planning to do so. So it's probably a lie. I can't imagine any business
in it's right mind would want to risk a lot of money on a unpredictable leader like
the one who runs N Korea. Besides most of the people there have little money
to spend.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 10, 2018, 10:19:02 am
You work too hard. Why not take a break from all this political posting? Here, have a hot cup of apple cider and a warm fresh cinnamon roll from Kobuk's Cafe.
*places items in front of you*
It's on the house. ;)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 10, 2018, 01:32:34 pm
Thanks for the cider Kobuk :orbunny: But I think I will continue for a while with my
political news and opinions. There are 40 or more people who stop by every day.

This new hurricane is giving the Trump man a reason to grin. The people of the gulf coast
will get first class help with the election only a few weeks away. The last thing the GOP
or Trump wants is a bunch of people in GOP strongholds  mad at the government.

I hope the storm does little harm, but at least the people will get more help than those
poor U.S. citizens did in Puerto Rico last year.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 11, 2018, 12:19:36 pm
President Trump is complaining that the rise in interest rates are hurting the
economy. Well if Trump was as smart as he claimes he would know the federal
reserve is trying to limit a rise in inflation. But Trump is worried more about how
it affects him instead.

There are reports that Trump will fire the Atterny General after the midterm election.
Even to rplace the deputy atterny general as well. He apparently plans to replace
them with very smart friends who are loyal to him instead of the constitution.

A colonist from the Washington Post disappeared after entering the saudi arabian
embassy in Turkey. There is speculation that he was killed by a hit squad from the
government of Saudi Arabia. Trump claims he has people in Turkey investigating
the disappearance, but Trump and family are close friends of the Saudi leader so 
who can say how much of an investigation it is. After all Trump has been trying
to get loans from the Saudi Prince for his family.

Unfortunately the hurricane turned out to be a bad one. A terrible storm much
like a 200 mile wide tornado. Recovery will take a long time, but I wish
everyone affected all the best.

We have had 6 strong hurricains hitting the United States over the
past two years. Evidence shows global warming may be partly
responsible, but Trump and the GOP are denying it. This country
used to be a world leader, but with Trump and his GOP friends we are
becoming a laughing stock instead.

However our so called great president decided his rally was more important than
the people affected by the hurricane. Trump can't help but lie and make up stories.
He claimed he didn't want to disappoint the thousands of people who were expecting
him. Many of which according to Trump had waited all night in lie. Turns out no one
spent the night in line waiting for the loud mouthed lier. Trump even posted a picture
stole from a tweet made previously, trying to show the lines of people. That picture
showing people who were in line about 5 hours before Trump and not the previous
night as Trump claimed.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 12, 2018, 12:52:54 pm
The GOP continue to call those who speak out against them angry mobs. They don't
like it when women try to stand up for their rights. They seem to think women should
stay home and let them decide what is right, because women are too emotional to rule.
They know women are more willing to help the disadvantaged, and will spend the
money the GOP wants to keep for their rich supporters. One man in Las Vegas has
spent over 100 million dollars trying to help the GOP stay in power. Why? The GOP
saved him well over a billion dollars in taxes with their big tax cut last year.

President Trump likes to talk about how big his win was in 2016,  but it would have
only taken a football stadiump full of people voting in key states overall for his win
would have been a loss. Almost 3 million more people voted for H Clinton than for
Trump. This fact drives him crazy. So he claims it was due to ill eagle voting. If
the truth was known I bet Trump has had his lawyers check to see if he could declare
an election null and void. Especially if the GOP lost both houses of congress during
this midterm election.

Actually the only reason Trump won is because most people thought H Clinton would
win and didn't take the time to vote. It's this kind of thinking that hurts our democracy.
People thinking their vote doesn't count or listen to advertising paid for by big business
who have an agenda of their own.

Many people talk about how broken our government is. Well it's no wonder when only
6 people in 10 vote. When the voter allows the politicians tto decide for them selves
how to run our government, many will run it for their own benifit. The GOP being a
minority party works hard to limit voting. They know if people did vote they would be
lost in the chaff. Instead the GOP should working to grow their party, but they know
the majority of Americans oppose much of their agenda for the country.

It seems Trump isn't talking much about the hurricane, instead he continues to talk
about himself. Trump should be giving the airforce heck for not moving their jet
aircraft out of harms way. The damage to the air base in the panhandle of Florida
has been devastating. This is just a small part of the damage thousands of people
have suffered. Whole towns were wiped off the map. Trump should be doing nothing
but seeing that those people are being taken care of. Instead he has a party in the
oval office. I have a hunch the GOP is wringing their hands over Trumps inattention.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 13, 2018, 01:05:09 pm
The GOP is working hard to  limit voting all across the country. They are
afraid of fairly competing with the democrats. So they have been trying
to limit voting groups who typically oppose the GOP. This may work in
the short term, but will seriously hurt the GOP in the long run.

President Trumps election was a big mistake for our country. Because he
has so many business interests around the world. These interests will take
presidence over national security. He is not going to give up millions if
not hundreds of millions putting sanctions against any country who is
making him even richer. No very rich man could be expected to not do
the same.

Trump has made huge sums of money from Saudi Arabia, so can
we expect him to shoot the goose who is laying golden egs for him?
I think not. This is why we should never elect another like him. He
is trying to say all the money they are spending is to much to put
sanctions on them. He claimed 109 billion. This is misleading as it's
mostly a promise to spend over several years.

He claims they would go to China or Russia if we stop selling to them.
I think not as they have been buying our weapons systems for many
years. So would be incompatable with anything they bought from
Russia or China.  They are dependant on us to keep their wepons working.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 14, 2018, 12:38:14 pm
The GOP are still trying to say women lie when they claim sexual
assult. Even though  sex has been used by rich men to control
women in the work place for centuries. Many women have had to
give into being used for sex to get good jobs or to keep them. So
why should we be surprised when rich powerful men want to call them
liers. Many women are afraid to say anything for fear of ridicule or
worse. It is true that a few women falsely accuse men of assult for
money or some kind of pay back, but it's not very common, and
a lie of this kind is often found out.

It seems Fox News doesn't give Trumps rallys full coverage like they
have in the past. Appears Trumps ratings have fallen off. So Trump is
spending an hour a day on Fox trying to build his ratings up. Trouble
is who is running the country when Trump is out bragging on how
good he is? I can guarantee if Obama had spent an hour talking about
himself on tv, Trump and the GOP would have been raising heck about it.

Both major political parties have been guilty of trying to limit voting in the
past. That was why laws were passed to protect voting rights. Trouble is
the GOP got the supreme court to remove the requirement to get approval
for changes in voting rules by states or districts. Now when states pass laws
that limit voting, people have to file suit in federal court to stop laws that
discrimiate against minorities. I think this is one reason the GOP want
conservative judges in federal courts.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 15, 2018, 12:36:17 pm
The GOP is claiming the democrats are out to do away with Social Security. Well if
you believe that I have a bridge to sell. The GOP has wanted to do away with Social
security since it was created in the mid 1930's. Not by the GOP, but the democrats.
The GOP has played this game for many years. Trying to scare the elderly into
voting for them. A tactic that should cause them all to be removed from office.  I
think politicians who plays on this kind of fear should be disqualified if not thrown
in jail. Just as any con artist would.

Congress should put limits on any kinds of missleading politics. Especially the
kind designed as a lie to scare the helpless. Instead of making excuses for it.

President Trump said he would give one million dollars to senator lizabeth warrens
favorite charity if she took a DNA test to prove she had indian blood. Well she
took the test and she has indian blood. Now Trump claims he didn't say he would
give a million dollars to her charity. Guess Trump forgot he made the pledge on
television. It's likely Trump plans to lie his way out of paying.

President Trump is now saying the Saudi news man who was killed in Turkey was
likely killed by a rogue  group and not by a Saudi directive. Trump said this because
the Saudi's claime they didn't do it. Not due to an investigation, but because he wants
us to believe them. Just like he wants us to believe him when he says Russia didn't
help him be president.

People can believe him all they want, but one day I think they will wish they had never
heard of the name Trump. 

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 16, 2018, 01:58:23 pm
The GOP and Trump claim their changes to boting, like voter ID is to protect
us from illegal voting. There is little or no evidence of people trying to vote
twice  or misrepresenting them selves. It's just a way to limit voting. The
GOP always does best with fewer votes, so the GOP wants to prevent people
from voting. Even the democrats have been guilty of it in the past.. Our
politicians should be willing to help everyone who is eligible to vote. Not
try to limit voting. Anyone who is caught trying to preven voting should
be disqualified from being in government, period.

The GOP controled state of North Dakota is trying to prevent thousands
of native Americans from voting by requiring a street address on the voter
ID card. Since most Indians don't have a street address they won't be
allowed to vote. Why? because the indian community votes for democrats
in most cases, and could help re elect the U.S. senator running
for re lelection. Who happens to be a democrat.

Trump has claimed the reason he lost the popular vote was due to illegal voting,
instead of acepting the facts. Something he rarely ever does.

Trump tried to say he didn't have any financial ties to Saudi Arabia. Perhaps not,
but they certainly do with him. He has talked about how much money he has
made dealing with the Saudi's. Yet he tries to claim he doesn't. Trump is up to his
old tricks. It's all about his money and the country second.

Seems many people want to make the excuse that Trump is just being himself
when he is a loud mouthed lieing jerk. It's sad so many people feel this kind
of antisocial activity is acceptable for the president. If some one wants to
act like a jerk in a beer joint or even a coffee shop so be it, but it's a terrible
example for our young people. For many years we have held our president
up as an example to kids. Now iwith a man who is a pathetic excuse for
a human being as president we can't.

I wish the media would be more honest about President Trump insead of
making excuses for him.  It's a free country so people can vote for who
we like even if he/she is bad or nice. Trump claims he is for the little guy,
his actions say otherwise. He considers anyone who is poor or sick a looser
inspite of his lies.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 17, 2018, 12:37:02 pm
I heard reports there is a slick far right crowd trying to recruit young people in
colleges to their way of thinking. Instead of dressing and acting  like angry
thugs, they are showing up in suits and are clean cut. Speaking in young GOP
club meetings where they try to convince others that white is right. So watch
out for them if your in college. There shouldn't be any room for these types
in any political party.

President Trump said "It won't be my fault if the republicans loose the house."
Does this mean that Trump thinks the democrats will win back the house?
Well perhaps the democrats should try hard to prove the case by voting to
kick the GOP out. I am sure Trump would love to blame the democrats
when the economy slows down.

Though Trump claims the economy is doing well because he was elected, but he
hasn't done anything that really helps the economy nationwide. The tax cut was
to help his multi millionaire friends, not the economy. The stock market was
growing under Obama. Jobs were growing under Obama. So as usual the GOP
always takes credit for a improving economy that the democrats work hard to fix.

Each time the democrats take over they have to raise taxes to prevent runaway
deficits caused by GOP tax cuts. Then the GOP trys to win back control by saying
the democrats are raising taxes to help the lazy welfare bums. Instead of trying to
get people off of welfare the GOP turns around and cuts programs for the needy.
So we end up with people living in the streets where some are forced into crime
to survive.

The leader of the GOP controlled senate was asked why deficits are growing. HIs
answer was as expected. "It's due to social programs, like social security and
medicare." Programs the GOP want to destroy.  It was part of their plan when
they passed the big tax cuts to cause deficits so they would have an excuse to
cut social programs.

So if you depend on medicade, medicare, or social security kick the GOP out.
They want people to believe it's to save the economy. Instead it's to help the
millionaires get richer.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 18, 2018, 01:21:29 pm
Will congress hold Saudi Arabia responsible for the death of the newsman in Turkey? Or
will they follow Trump and claim there isn't any proof to put sanctions on them? Trump
is trying to say he has a 109 billion dollare arms deal with them, but in reality it's not
even 15 billion dollars at this time. So his excuse for no sanctions is another lie.

It's under 3 weeks till the midterm election. Trump is doing rallys 4 or 5 times a week. Trump
loves to talk to his supporters. He doesn't want anyone at his rallys who don't support him. fHe
calls them private meetings. So if  someone speaks out against him he wants them thrown out.
He and many GOP congressmen and women try to avoid the voting public for fear they will
have to answer embarrassing questions.

People are already voting in states that allow early voting. Reports are early voting is heavy and
not just republicans. Democrats are out in big numbers as well. This may be a record vote for a
midterm election cycle.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 19, 2018, 01:16:57 pm
President Trump claims he is cleaning up the swamp in Washington DC,
but he is just refilling it with crooks who misuse tax payer dollars for
their own benifit.

Trump and the GOP say they are for jobs, but they  never talk about 
how good the jobs are, or how much they pay or what benefits they 
may include. They even want to get rid of the minimum wage.

President Trump was making fun of a reporter who was knocked down
by a candidate he was trying to interview. Seems Trump feels it's find to
use violence to get what you want in life. This by a man who won't go
anywhere with out having bodyguards. Even before he was elected
president, where he does need them as any president does.

Trump acts tough in his rally's, but he is a first class coward who
is even afraid to personally fire anyone. Oh he did it on his tv show,
but he was acting then, playing out a fantasy.

Trump and the GOP talk about angry mobs, but when Trump speaks at
a Rally his supporters cheer when Trump talks about using violence. So
we can see who is the real angry mob, led by Trump their mob boss.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 20, 2018, 12:39:09 pm
How long will it take before one or more of Trumps followers 
leads an attack on those who don't support Trump? The GOP
and Trump try to claim the democrats are an angry mob. Yet
followers of Trump are starting to threaten violence on democrats
who are trying to speak at town hall meetings.

Trump claims the democrats are keepoing him from getting his
wall and other things. Even though the GOP runs the government.
if anyone is blocking Trump it's his own party. The GOP won't
all stand as one even to help Trump. So he blaims the democrats 
for not helping him.

A republican friend of mine told me he felt immigrans came
here to get on welfare. I tried to tell ihim people came here
for the work, but he is sure it's the welfare as Trump preaches.
Welfare helps small businesses more than people sitting on
couches. They spend their welfare check for groceries and
many other things that help small businesses.  Other wise
those who loose welfare and don't have money are a drain
on society.

He liked Trumps idea for a wall as he felt it would slow drug
traffic. I tried to tell him that most drugs came via trucks,
cars, boats and airplanes, but he is stuck on Trumps idea.
Over the past several years many more people have been
attacked by our own citizens than immigrants.

President Trump is using fear trying to get his followers out 
to vote. Trump tells his followers that immigrants are out to
to take over the country. Already businesses that depend on
migrant workers can't find enough workers to  do the jobs.

Seems American workers won't do stoop labor. A business
reported that out of 39 workers they had only one was an
American. Though they tried to hire U.S. citizens only one
took the job. If Trump continues to turn away immigrants
many food crops will be left to rot. Then we will see prices
for food will climb even more. 


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 21, 2018, 12:26:11 pm
The GOP and Trump claim they are the party who creates jobs. Yet history has
shown more jobs are created under democrats than republicans. Going all the
way back to president Reagan. More jobs under Clinton, and Obama both. Fewer
jobs under the republican presidents of Regan, Bush1, and bush 2. Inspite of
Trumps claims he isn't doing any better.  The GOP is the party of big deficits and
tax cuts that help the rich more than the average worker.

President Trump is still supporting the lies of the Saudi Prince who is now saying
the man was killed by accident. Trump is trying to say he must defend the
prince to save jobs. Every time he says this he comes up with a larger number
of jobs. Saudi Arabia is only promising to buy arms. The last I heard their was
only 15 billion under contract. Not 109 like Trump claims.

Trump has made hundreds of millions from the Saudi's so it's no wonder
he supports their lies. This is more evidence that putting a rich businessman
in the white house was a bad idea.

President Trumps idea of putting immigrant kids in cages would stop desperate
people from trying to enter our country has failed. Yet he plans to do it again.
Even to send regular army troops to the Mexican boarder. At what end? What
will Americans say if the military starts shooting immigrant families, even if it's 
accidental? I actually believe some of Trumps supporters would cheer if Trump
said they should be shot.

President Trump is attacking Transgender people claiming they have no place
in our society, much less the human race. Trump has the power to deny their
rights by redefining gender. This is more of the far right trying to get rid of
anyone who doesn't fit what they think is normal. .

Who can say how far this might go if the GOP continue to control congress. I
heard a political ad trying to say the democrats are trying to grab power. If
that is the case what is the GOP trying to do, but trying to hold power. The 
GOP must think people are idiots with ads like this.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 22, 2018, 01:17:28 pm
Many politicians mislead their voters, but Trump and the GOP seem to feel
they need to lie about everything that doesn't help them get votes. Some
may feel they all lie, but over the last several years the GOP has gone to
the extreme. Especially after Obama was elected. For example The GOP
used a large number of lies about the ACA trying to defeat it. The GOP
do anything to reduce government, even to starve and let the weak
die. Most people who vote as republican are good caring pepole who are
misled by the party leadership. Which is full of rich greedy white men who
fear the loss of money and power.


President Trump is trying to claim the latest group of people walking through
Mexico toward the U.S. is mixed with middle eastern terrorists. There is no
little evidence to justify this claim.  Trump is playing the fear game to gain
more  votes for the GOP.

Trump claims immigrants will bankrupt our country, yet  the GOP continue to
say we need to cut taxes. If the country was in such  dire straights why would 
they be doing that? If anything we need more immigrants not less. Part of the
reason the unemplyment rate is so low it due to the country needing
more workers. Most immigrants are looking for jobs, not a free ride as
Trump and the GOP claim. They will take jobs many U.S. citizens aren't
willing to do. The Dreamers Trump and the GOP want to get rid of are
well educated and have jobs now. Loosing them would hurt many
businesses due to the loss of good employees.

Trump claims the democrats won't help pass laws to make our boarder
secure even though there are more than enough GOP members of
congress to pass anything he wants.  Trump should be telling his
supporters which GOP members that are blocking him instead.

Many pkeople feel there isn't any real difference in the two parties. They
feel they are all crooks one way or another. So why vote? Well this is the
reason you should vote. If you don't like anyone running, then run for office
yourself. Or support someone else.  If II wasn't visually disabled I would
try it my self. We need more poeple in congress who aren't millionaires.
Very rich people often have little empathy for the middle class, much
less the elderly and the poorest of  Americans.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 24, 2018, 12:42:33 pm
Russia's Putin has declareed that the United States is no longer a
superpower. Why? Apparently because he can tell President Trump
what to do, and how to do it. Even saying that Trump calls him
on the phone asking for advice. I don't know about Trumps supporters
but this makes me wonder who is actually running the white house.
Trump or Russia's Putin?

Trump apparently considers dictators to be smart people who he can call
for advice. Trump would love to be one himself. This is why we need people
in congress who will stand up and keep Trump from dragging our country
down to his level.

President Trump should be ashamed, his hateful rhetoric has likely
caused one or more of his far right followers to send bombs to
democrats or those who don't support him.

It wouldn't surprise me if Trump tries to blame the democrats for
this. So far though the white house is calling it a terrible act wanting
the person or persons caught. With Trump we never know how far
he will expand it. Only time will tell. I do hope the person or persons
involved are caught before someone is killed or hurt.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 25, 2018, 01:16:19 pm
President Trump began his last rally by saying he was supposed to be nicer, but after
makeing fun of this he was back at the same old hateful rhetoric. He can't seem to
controll himself once he is in front of his supporters. Like someone on drugs the cheers 
are a fix for his ego. His supporters may think he is their man, but Trump is for Trump
and no one else.

As I figured Trump is blaming the media and democrats for the bombs. As usual Mr.
perfect is never guilty of anything,

President Trump doesn't seem to understand he is the president of the whole country,
not just the GOP. Not just those who voted for him either,, but everyone. He doesn't 
seem to understand his hateful remarks devide people. A presidents job is to lead the
people, not divide the people. Remarks made in campaigns don't have the same effect
as those made by a sitting president. Trump doesn't seem to understand the difference.

Trump has been campaigning for a second term from the day he was elected. he never
trys to build support, instead he just talks to those who voted for him. Seems he feels
those who didn't vote for him are a bunch of loosers who should accept the fact he is
president and follow his every word. Even if they are lies and false stories.

Trump complains about leaks, then he uses a cellphone that isn't secure. It's been
reported that China and Russia both have been listening in on his conversations. Yet
he still won't give up the use of his unsecured cellphone. The secret service should
takeke it away from him, even by force if needed. Anyone else would be put in
prison for doing such a thing.

Some have said Trump forgets most of his briefings if he even listens to them. So
they don't think he can remember well enough to give out many secrets. He is on
the phone with friends and who knows who else. Trump loves to brag so who can
say how many secrets he tells his frienldls, or world leaders.


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www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 26, 2018, 01:16:47 pm
A suspect is under arrest in connection to the bombing. The man appears to
be a strong Trump supporter. No direct connection to Trump or his campaign
is known. The persons Van had a lot of GOP and Trump stickers on it. So
this should put an end to Trumps claims it's about the media or democrats.
But with Trump who can say. The main thing is no one was harmed or killed.

Only time will tell if this puts an end to the bomb packages or not. There
might be more people involved. I am sure the FBI will be investigating
this crime for some time.

Trump did make a speech where he commented saying he was glad a
suspect was in custody. Also bragged on law enforcement. He did say
the countries division needs to stop. It was obvious the speech was
prepared to keep Trump from saying the wrong thing, like calling the
suspect guilty. It will be interesting to see if he holds the line during
his next rally.

Trump supporters claim he is working to do what he promised. Well where 
are the lower drug prices he promised? Where is the lower cost health insurance
that gives coverage to everyone? Trump is still trying to take health coverage
away from those with preexisting conditions. The GOP is trying to say they are
for coverage for people who are sick, but they  never membtion any limits on
premium costs for them. Coverage that could cost tens of thousand a month
if  insurance companies have their way.

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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 27, 2018, 12:14:42 pm
I really don't think Trump cares about anything, but how to win. Even if people 
are hurt in the process. Unfortunately he listens to the far right who pretends
to support him. he is being used by those wanting power, wither he knows
it or not. Trumps Ego likely leads him to believe he is smart enough to win in
any case. It wouldn't be the first time someone was used to gain power by those
unable to get it otherwise.

President Trumps desperate attempt to gin up the vote for the GOP is apparently
causing radicals of the far right to attack democrats and their supporters. Radicals
often feel they need to help their leader with violence. Unfortuantly it can go both
ways. During the 1960's many people were hurt and killed by bombers and
shooters. Most where far right people who wanted to keep black people from
joining society as equals. If it wasn't for people like Martin Luther King Jr. we
might have had a full civil war. He worked hard to limit retaliation bye blacks
on white.

Trump shows signs of trying to calm the division between the right and left,
but when he stands in a political rally he still attacks his political opponents
with furver. He seems to think when he is speaking to his voters he can
act or say whatever he wants. Even to give faor to violent acts by his
followers.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 28, 2018, 12:37:20 pm
The GOP across the nation continue doing all they can to limit 
voting. They claim they are fighting voter fraud even though 
there is little evidence of it. Ever since the federal government 
let the southern statees take back control of their government
following the civil war. The GOP has tried to keep black people
from voting. And they still are.

If the GOP holds on to power after the midtermelection they will
try to privatize every social program that protects the poor, elderly,
andthe disabled. They will increase the eligibility age for social
security, and medicare. Also to do away with social security, and
medicare coverage for the disabled. All this in the name of
making government smaller. If you think I am wrong just listen
to the leader of the senate. He is already promising to do
away with the social programs if the GOP holds power.

They will use the excuse there isn't enough money to  continue
the social programs. Yet they have enough to cut taxes for
millionairs, billionaires and big business. All they want to do is
help the rich and let others care for the poor. Almost all of
the GOP members in congress are millionaires. So we shouldn't
be surprised by their actions.

By the way the GOP is trying say they will protect health care
after years of trying to get rid of the ACA (Obama care) 
instead of fixing it. If you think they are going to keep that
promise your will be in for a big surprise, because they have
no plans to protect our health coverage once the election is
over. Just like Trump they will lie like dogs to get votes. 

Trump has promised to protect social programs, but with all his
lies we can't depend on what he says, but what he does.

President Trump claims to be against attacks on Jews, but he
continues to  support the far right who has a history of attacking
Jews and minorities. Trump should be leading the effort to stop
hate crimes in this country.

Instead he trys to call a desperate group of people from central
America an invasion. 4000 people or so is not an invasion against
360 million Americans. He should be calling out the hate groups for
attacks on our society, of which is likely far more then 4000 strong.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 29, 2018, 12:53:50 pm
President Trump calls the media fake if they don't agree with him.
Trumps facts which are usually lies, so they often are in dispute. Like
a dictator he calls the media the enemy of the people because they
won't follow his claims to the  truth. Many presidents in the past 
have battled with the news media, but Trumps the first to call them
the enemy of the people. The constitution protects the freedom of
the press even if Trump doesn't like it, and his attacks on the press
is a danger to our democracy.  Attacks which he uses to cover his
mistakes. lies, and bad decisions.

Politics has always been a battle between two forces appealing to the
masses for their support. In the past people did not have access to
a candidates background or voting record. So they had to  depend on
what he or she said to decide. That isn't the case today.  There are
several ways to get information about people running for office.
Trouble is many voters are too lazy or won't take the time to check
the facts about a candidate. Instead they listen to family, friends
or worst of all political ads, and talk radio or TV shows who make
money feeding  opposing political groups lies or misleading facts.

I do watch news shows like MSNBC for information on politics, but
not if I were to see them telling lies or giving misleading facts
not. MSNBC does lean toward the democrats, but they have a standing
offer to those republicans wanting to make their case. They rarely do
since they can't just make a sspeech, or set the subject.


Over the next week President Trump has 10 rallys set up. I doubt if
he changes many voters minds. By now most people know how they
plan to vote.

For someone like my self rallys mean little. It's the man or woman's
reccrd that I use for my decision.  Ads on TV, Rally's, mailers, and
polls don't tell me anything. In most cases they are empty promises.

Unfortunately many people running for office will mislead, and lie
about their opponent  to get votes. Some people say all politicians lie,
but it's the best way to turn off my vote. If both candidates liie I still 
vote, but it's still according to their background and voting record I
look at.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com


www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 30, 2018, 01:13:47 pm
President Trump has sent over 5000 regular army troops to our
southern boarder with Mexico. This is nothing but a show to get
votes for the GOP. Millions of tax dollars will be spent to benifit
the GOP not to protect our nation as Trump claims. I hardly think
it would take 5000 troops to stop a bunch of women and children,
and a few men.

Trump wants to get rid of citizenship by birth. This right is guaranteed
by the 14th amendment of our constitution. So inspite of Trump claims
he can't change the constitution by declaration. It would take votes by
37 states to do so. Unless the conservative supreme court decides to
break the constitution by arbitrarily changing it. Trump also claimed
we are the only nation that does so. He is lieing, over a dozen other
countries do as well.


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www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 31, 2018, 12:22:47 pm
It is shameful how far the GOP is willing to go trying to limit
voting by minorities. All I  can say is they best make the best
of it. In the future they will pay dearly for their shameless acts
of tyranny against minorities and the weak.

President Trump claims to be an Nationalist, yet he still goes to
other countries to fabricate items he and his family sell.  He
bought the steel and aluminum needed to build his buildings from
China instead of the U.S. He should have to  answer to those
actions. It's not the acts of an  Nationalist. 

The GOP and Trump don't want to admit that the treasury dept
had to borrowwell over one trillion dollars to prop up our
government. Why? It's because of the republican tax cut of
over a Trillion dollars to help the rich.  They claimed it would
pay for it's self. If so why the need to borrow all that money?

If the GOP hold power they will use this as an excuse to cut
social programs nex year. The GOP leader of the Senate was
caught seying they would on TV. He is trying to lie his way out 
of it, he knows it will hurt the GOP.

President Trump went to give his sympathies for the Jews who
were killed. This was obviously a political move by Trump. The
political leaders encluding Republicans refused to go with him.
they knew it a slap in the face to those wanting to have funerals
for the fallen. He was asked to wait, but Trump knew he might
loose any political gain by waiting. Trump even lied to  local leaders
saying they should go with him because others had accepted, even
though they haddent. It's more proof that Trump has no respect for
anyone, and will do anything to win.

Trump thinks he won because he was the better candidate, but it was
more of a vote against H.Clinton than a vote for Trump. The least o f
two evils for many. All the democrats should need for 2020 is a candidate
who can give people reason to  vote.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 01, 2018, 12:55:12 pm
I am sure some people think I am a democrat, but I am not. Ibecame
an independant years ago. I look at the candidte not the party. Lately
the GOP has fallen so far into the depts of the far right they no longer
have my respect. Conservatism like the free mlarket is fine, but only
under control by laws of fairness and protection for the common man,
and our country.

The GOP is suddenly worried about coverage for existing conditions
by insurance companies. Over the past 8 years they have done
nothing but try to remove this protection for Americans. Isn't it
interesting that they don't mention how much this so called coverage
would end up costing underr their plan. Before the ACA coverage
for exsisting condition could be obtained, but at extreme cost to
the policy holder. Costs raised rates by a factor of at least 15 over
a healthy person 30 years ago.

If you believe Trumps claim that we are being invaded by a huge
group of terrorists from Central America, then you might as well
believe in unicorns and faries. Trump isn't saying we are being
invaded by faries or unicorns, but he just as well be. Because
this claim of invasion is a fantasy created by Trump to scare
American voters hoping they will vote to keep the house under
GOP control.

Trump fears control of the house by democrats will put hall his
plans at risk, prohaps even his money, as they will investgate him
for real.  Instead of the fake investigation  the GOP has been
pushing.

It's no wonder Trump is willing to send up to 15000 army troops
to the Mexican boarder. Likely at a cost of 100 million in tax dollars,
trying to keep the GOP in control. For his own good instead of the
countries good.

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www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 02, 2018, 12:27:34 pm
President Trump was complaining that the deaths of 11 jews had
slowed his political momentum. Seems Trump cares more about
winning that the lives of 11 people. When Trump went to where
the Jews were killed, he met crowds telling him to go home. Yet
he tried to say it was the media liing instead. 

This midterm election is all about how many people get out and
vote. The GOP wants a small vote so they try to limit votes. The
Democrats try to get everyone out to vote even if they aren't 
democrats. They unlike the GOP want a strong democracy not a
fake one.

The GOP put conservative Judges in federal courts to help them
keep power. Two federal judges have allowed the GOP to limit
voting in two states. These limits may help keep the GOP's hold
on the senate. The leader of the GOP senate said we won so we
get to decide. They don't care if they have to cheat to win. It's all
about saving money for their super rich supporters that help them
stay in power.

No party is perfect. They all have bad operators, but lies and
misleading statements hurt us all. Yet politicians continue to do
it with winning in mind. They fear the truth as it might cost them
the office they desire. It is sad how many times Trump and the GOP
have lied and used misleading statements wanting to hold on to
power. We need people in power that care about the country not to
promote an idea or agenda that benefits themselves.

If you need health care look to the democrats. The GOP only wants
to help the health insurance industry by getting rid of the ACA. That
way the insurance companies can sell junk policies. Leaving policy
holders with a huge hospital bill while the insurance industry
makes Billions.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 03, 2018, 12:58:09 pm
Please get out and vote this tuesday. I don't care what party your
for if any, iwe will loose our democracy if we continue to let politicians
make the rules on their own. Every vote counts. I know it seems 
like one vote has little power, but those single votes add up fast
if people get to the polls. The super rich are hoping you will stay
home. Especially Trump, no matter what he says.

Inspite of President Trumps rhetoric this country stands on the
shoulders of millions of immigrants. People who fear immigration
are ignorant of our history. From the days of the founding of this
country it was immigrants who made it a bastion of freedom and
oppertunity for millions of the oppressed, and the poor around the
world. Not just those from Europe, but from the whole world.

President Reagan stated that it's immigration that makes our country
great, and if we ever restrict immigration our greatness will soon
be lost. It's our policies on immigration that attracts the best minds
of the world. If we become the oppressor of the weak and the poor
the only ones who will come is the uneducated and those who steal,
rape and kill. It's oppertunity that attracts those who wish to make
better life for them selves. Not with crime, but hard work. History has
shown most immigrants turn out to be some of the best workers.

The GOP knows people don't like people who live on welfare, so they
try to use this to run down social programs for the poor and the sick.
Instead of working to make these programs better they want to just
get rid of them. This leaves many people on the streats desperate
hungry, and poorr. Driving them to crime, and can spread disease,
because they can't afford health care.  So in the end the cost to
society is more than the welfare the GOP wants to get rid of.

We should remember it's the rich who want to own the country. They
fear the voter, so they work to limit the vote. Especially by those who
are poor and disadvantaged. It's they who will take the country back
from the rich, or at least put limits on them. At the end of the 19th
century the industrial revolution created people with vast wealth.
They tried to use this wealth to control the country, but the voter
put controls on them with laws against monopolies and laws to
protect workers.

Over the past 40 years the rich have been working to  gain more
power again. If the voter doesn't put limits on them they will
oppress the average person as they have done throughout history.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 03, 2018, 02:33:58 pm
Before people go and vote on Nov. 6th, here's some thoughts I'd like to offer. ;)


Is it just now during the November 2018 midterm elections that voting has been this crazy? Or has voting always been this crazy since the birth of our nation over 200+ years ago? So much mudslinging, So much fear mongering, and so much divisiveness, etc. going on right now. Kind of makes you wonder just what the hell is going on in America right now?

Who should people vote for? Why should you vote? Will my vote make any difference? These and other questions I may or may not have the answers for. But when it comes to who you should vote for, only YOU can decide that for yourself. NOT anybody else. Politicians like to hold political rallies weeks and months before official voting begins. Political rallies remind me of the old sideshow barker at the carnival or circus. Always yapping their mouth off trying to get people to hear about (and buy) their newest product or service or something else.
 
“STEP RIGHT UP! STEP RIGHT UP, FOLKS! See the amazing political candidate and hear his amazing stories and promises of a better future for all!”   Yeah.........riiiight.  :P

But for all the good these political rallies and political candidates do (or don’t do), everything that a candidate says to get people to vote for him or herself is just words. JUST WORDS. Words all by themselves carry no weight. As an old phrase goes: “Actions speak louder than words.”. Whatever a candidate says/promises they’ll do to get you to vote for him/her, it’s just empty words. What really counts on who you should vote for are the actions of the candidate while currently in office or what they have done before in the past. Stuff that they say or promise they can do in the future hasn’t happened yet. So why vote for something that hasn’t happened and doesn’t exist yet?
 
If you’re going to vote for a Mayor, Governor, Congressman, President, or any other official, then at least be smart and do your research about the candidate. Research not only the history of the candidate him/herself, but also research the promises and actions of that candidate and how those actions have either benefitted you and others or harmed the public. Do your own fact checking. Don’t just depend on the newspapers, radio, tv, etc. to do it all for you. Political figures can say and do a lot to try and convince you to vote for them. But really, it’s all just hollow promises. If a politician says he/she is going to promise to lower taxes before he/she is elected/voted in to office, then doesn’t that sound like putting the cart before the horse so to speak? Doesn’t make sense, does it?
 
Too many times in America, I often watch and hear how people vote for a candidate based solely on what the candidate is “proposing/promising”. It seems like some people are voting with their hearts, and not with their brains. They hear what the candidate says at a rally or on tv, etc. and they “fall in love” with that candidate based solely on his words only. If you vote like that, then you are making a mistake.

If we let politicians do whatever they wanted because we either didn’t vote or we voted solely on their “words” only, this country and the people within it would be in dire trouble. You can’t let politicians get away with whatever they want. If you do, you’re just hurting yourself, your family, your children, your friends, and future generations to come. Do your research, folks. Before you vote on any candidate or any proposal like a new water treatment plant, school voucher program, or anything else, do your research and find out how bad or good that person/proposal is. It’s not just government watchdog groups, ethics committees, and rules & laws that keep politicians and their promises in check, but it’s the everyday citizens and their knowledge and their right to vote that will keep politicians in check. ;)
 
"When you train your mind how to think, you inoculate yourself against those who desperately want to tell you what to think."

“We must not promise what we ought not, lest we be called upon to perform what we cannot.” ~ Abraham Lincoln

The best defense against fearing what you do not understand is knowledge. Educate yourself. The more you know, the better informed and wiser you’ll be. ;)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 04, 2018, 12:20:50 pm
Thank you Kobuk, well said.

To those who think voting is too much trouble. Well think about me. I have to get
a ride to the polls, then guided inside. once there I have to  get the poll officials to
vote for me as I can't see the ballot well enough to mark it. So quit making excuses
and do your patriotic duty and vote. 

I hope people aren't discouraged if the GOP hold on to the senate.  The democrats
are at a disadvantage this year with most senators running in red states. In 2020
this will be turned around. We still should get out and vote though as the races are
very close and could go either way.

As Kobuk saidpeople need to vote with their head not their heart or gut as Trump
claims he does. Vote based on actions not their talk. Politicians will promise anything
to get votes. I think it's time we started disqualifying people when they lie or try to
mislead voters. It's time we treated the selection of lawmakers seariously and not
like some kind of schoolyard game.

If you want a minimum wage or good health insurance that pays the bills you best
fote for democrats. The GOP wants to  get rid of them both. If your having trouble
paying for your medicine you better vote for democrats, the GOP won't do anything
to keep medicine or medical cost down. Maybe you have never been sick a day in your
life. But that day wil come and you will go broke trying to pay bills that can run into
the tens of thousands to take care of a boo boo that puts you in the hospital.

The democrats like all parties have their faults, but this year the GOP does nothing but
lie and mislead trying to win.

ou can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 04, 2018, 12:22:56 pm
What to do if you are turned away at the voting polls.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/politics/midterm-election-voting-rights-trnd/index.html

Answer these 5 questions before you vote.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/03/opinions/answer-these-5-questions-before-you-vote/index.html


In other news. Now, about that immigrant caravan down in Mexico that's traveling north to the U.S. ..........

This is an invading force.
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/pop.h-cdn.co/assets/17/40/1024x623/gallery-1507149858-gettyimages-841415576.jpg?resize=480:*)

This is not!
(https://i1.wp.com/www.libertybugle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Migrant-Caravan-2ndWave.jpg?fit=600%2C316&ssl=1)

Know the difference! Don't let Trump and the GOP's fear mongering get to you! They are using fear to scare you and to make you support and vote for them. You can be better than this. Don't let them tell you what to think.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 05, 2018, 12:23:18 pm
President Trump and the GOP have been bragging on the economy. Yet they want
to forget the eight years of growth under Obama. When Trump was running for
president he was calling the economy growth fake, but the menute he won it became
his economy, and the growth was due to him not Obama. This isn't unusual as it's
a political habit to claim success as your own even if it was due to the previous
government.

It's sad, but the GOP always claim they do more for the economy and job growth. Yet
in reality it's always better under the democrats. Then when the GOP takes over they
cut taxes for the rich, and big business claiming it's for job growth. Then when the
economy slows down due to the GOP,  the democrats get to fix it again.

Just remember if you or your parents or grandparents depend on social security,
and medicare. Vote for the democrats. If the GOP has it's way you may have to help
pay their housing, health care and food costs.  If they cut medicaid, you will have
to look after an elderly parent or disabled family member, who has been kicked
out of a nursing home.

We all should help our parents, and in most countries several generations live
under the same roof, but here many don't want their elder parents around, much
less support them.


Well it's down to the wire. Tomorrow decides who will be running our
government. Most of us will be glad to see it end.  Me encluded.

I have always felt too much time is spent running for political office.
Most countries limit elections to weeks instead of months as we do.

Elections are big business in the U.S.A. Newspapers, radio, and televison
make huge sums of money handling ads for the candidates. Not counting
the internet, and businesses dedicated to track voting trends. You can be
sure they all would lobby against any shortening of a political season, since
it would cost them a lot of money.

I am sure this is one of the big reasons politicians haven't put any limits on
politics in this country, much less limit spending.

I  don't plan on posting tomorrow as there will be little to say or report. Please
be sure to vote. Your country needs you.


ou can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 07, 2018, 11:36:19 am
President Trump is calling the election a win.  not wanting to admit that
most senate races won by the GOP were states that went for himn in
2016. I am sure his rallys helped a bit, but the GOP had good support
in the states they won.  In 2020 it will be turned around. More GOP
senators will be up for re election in states that Trump didn't do well in.

The GOP leader of the senate is already calling any investigation by the
democratic house an "Harassment of the president." The GOP and Trump
both will likely be driving this claim all the way to 2020. The democrats
will have to show good cause or Trumps base will see it the same way.
We can be sure Trump will use it as a campaign issue.

Winning the house too more than just getting more votes, they had to
fight gerrymandering in most states. This type of redistricting is nothing
more than cheating by the party in power, and should be illeagale no
matter who is in power.

It will be interesting to see what President Trump does over the next
few days.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 08, 2018, 12:21:54 pm
President Trump may have damaged him self by firing his attorney
general, apparently for not controling the special counsels investigation.
Trump has complained for months that his AG failed, by not 
being loyal to him. According to Trump he was supposed to oversee,
and limit if nessaccary  the investigation of his campign. If this is the
case it would be more proof Trump is trying to cover illegal activity                                                                                                                                                         
by him and his campaign. Trump is trying to replace his AG with a
puppet who will do what he wants. Just as he did with his
supreme court nomination.

Another mass shooting by an American citizen. Trump made the case
that immigrants are here to commit crimes, yet most all violence is by
our own people. When will people realize that Trump will lie to win, and
not work to protect the country or our people?

President Trump proved yet again he wants to control the press. Yesterday
during a so called press conference he argued with a reporter instead of
answering the quesstions he had the reporter removed and his press credentials
removed so he can't return to the white house. Just l ike in his rallys Trump
wants to control the issues. If someone shouts a question he has them
removed. Just like the reporter.

Seems Trumps supporters don't care what law or rule he breaks as
long as he acts the way they want. Even if it's a lie. I fear they will
only believe Trump no matter what the special counsel finds out.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 09, 2018, 12:05:25 pm
Trumps replacement for the Atterny General is getting a lot of scrutiny due
to the fact his appointment is likely unconstitutional. Trump claims he doesn't
know the guy. This is a lie as Trump said on tv he knew and liked him a
few weeks ago. He said he just picked a man who worked for the old AG.
It's no coincidence the person he picked had said many times on cable TV
that the special counsel was doing a improper job. Trump likely picked him to
stop an investigation that may put him and his family in prison.

President Trump and the GOP are up to their old tricks again. They are
claiming election fraud in states where the GOP may loose in close races. 

They never fuss when they win, even if it's by a few votes. Trump is making
noises that there might be a federal investigation if any of the GOP candidates
loose.

All of this is just Trump and the GOP trying to convince their voting base that
the Democrats are crooked and cheat to win. Anyone who really follows
the facts know it's the GOP who are crooked and cheat at every turn. They
are an minority party, so the only way they win is by gerrymandering, and
limiting votes any way they can, along with telling lies. Now they are trying
to call absent T, and provisional ballots illegal. Even early voting ballots as
well. That is those who support the democratic candidate. Even trying to
say vote counters don't have the proper training to do the job.

Hopefully the democrats will stand up to this un American activity and show
the GOP for what it is. "Bought and paid puppets of the super rich."


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 10, 2018, 12:19:34 pm
President Trump went to France in part as a ceramony for the soldiers
of WWI. There is reports that Trump plans to have a meeting with 
Russia's Putin while there. The Europian Union has plans to build
up it's military. Trump had responded calling the French Presidents 
comment a insul, when he said it could be used against the Unightd
States if needed. Trump didn't comment on this later.

Voting in the state of Georgia is still up in the air. The man running
for govenor is trying to claim victory even though many votes have 
yet to be counted. He is even trying to use govenorial powers to
win the election. Trump is even calling for a new election trying to
say there was voter fraud. In fact it's nothing but the GOP trying to
use dirty tricks to win. They are trying to do the same thing in Florida
and Nevada hoping to gain two more senate seats.

President Trump released a modified video trying to show a reporter
hitting a woman staff member attempting to take the microphone
from him. It appears Trump isn't satisfied with lieing, he is releasing 
frauduelent videos now.

With a democratic house Trump is going to face real investigations of
his actions. No longer will he have the GOP to cover up for him. So
we can expect even more bluster from him. Already he is making
threats of war against the democrats if they investigate him or his
family. I think Trump is running scared, because he knows house
protection is gone. Hopefully he doesn't do something crazy between
now and the 2020 election.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 11, 2018, 01:13:19 pm
Trumps call for nationalism could very well cause another world war. It's nations
working  together that helps keep the peace. When countries loose trust with each
other they start building protection for heir own interests. This can easily lead
to preemptive strikes that could lead to world war.

The democrats should investigate the president. They should pass legislation
that  they can point to in 2020 if the GOP or Trump fail to support it. Trump and
the GOP will try to say the democrats were only interested in punishment and not
good government if they don't. The democrats have to stand up and show the public
they are there for the good of the country. Putting limits on Trump is part of that.

How far willPresident Trump go trying to feed his supporters? He is treating
women of color with rude nasty remarks. Calling a professional reporter stupid,
and told a foreign woman reporter he couldn't understand her speech. It's possible
he was distracted for a moment, but his treatment of women says otherwise.

Trump claims he supports the military, but during his campaign he rand down
people who had served with distinction. Especially if they are killed or fail some
way, even to get get captured.  Trump likes the idea of a strong military, but
he does not respect those who serve. If they don't fit his idea of a good soldier
he is ready to expel them. He sent thousands of regular army troops to the
Mexican boarder trying to gain more votes for the GOP. He didn't care that he
was taking them away from their family. He didn't care they would miss being
with family during their fanksgiving holiday. Just to  sit at the boarder and call
the boarder patrol they see an illegal alien. They are not there to fight, if one
of them were to shoot a alien they could face legal troubles.

Trump claims Obama was the cause of cutting spending for the military. Well
the GOP owns it too. They were wanting to cut spending, and the budget cuts
for the military was supported by the GOP.

Think it wasn't about politics? Well have you heard anything aobut the so called
caravan or invasion since the election? Seems Trump has put it out of mind. So
it's not important any more. Trump will have spent over 100 million in tax dollars
for little return.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 12, 2018, 12:35:35 pm
Nationalisim puts our country at risk. Think about it. It you stopped trusting
your neighbor you will start building walls and even arming yourself with
guns and attack dogs. Obviously your neighbor will respond in kind. This lack
of trust leads to conflicts, not prosperity between nations.

This nationalistic push by the far right will destroy our country, and possibly
the world. Trump is pushing it because he thinks it will keep him in the White
House. He doesn't care about you or our country,, it's all about himself and
how much money he can make as president. 

President Trump tweeted that it was bad forest managment by the state
of California that is causing the terrible fires there. I think trying to use
such a terrible event for political gain is more proof of Trumps immorality.
If there is cause to think the state of california is to blaim then investigate
it after the fires, not during them. If anything Trump should be offering
help to fight the fires. Instead he sends troops of the Mexican boarder
for political gain and little else.

To hear our fake president talk the only fair election is one the GOP wins. He
is trying to call for new elections because he wants the GOP to win. It's ok to
want to win, but not by the cheating of any party.

Trump and the GOP care more about winning than they do about our democracy.
These claims of voter fraud harms our democracy, not helping it. Seems the GOP
is so scared of cultural shift in this country they will do anything to win. They are
packing the court system with conservative judges to protect their cheating and
limits on voting. It's time we put limits on the Super Rich and not the average
American.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 13, 2018, 12:47:13 pm
President Trump finally backed down. and is declaring emergency status to  the
state of California over this fire tragedy. I guess he was told his tweet was bad
for his image, and the weather was at fault. Not the state of California who Trump
doesn't like because they voted for H Clinton.

The GOP and Trump are claiming the democrats are trying to steal the governor
and senate race in Florida. What they don't admit is the fact the GOP controlled 
state of Florida refuses to update voting systems in  aereas that are heavily
democratic. This greatly slows vote counts and leads to errors. This isn't new, the
GOP has used this trying to limit votes by democrats for years.

Of course supporters of Trump want to believe him when he claims fvoter fraud.
The day is coming when the GOP's dirty tricks won't be enough to keep them
in power. Hopefully when democrats take power they will put an end to this kind
of voter fraud. If the GOP would quit trying to suck up to the Super rich, they
wouldn't need to use dirty tricks to win. Unfortunately many of those leading
the GOP are like Trump. They think only rich people are smart enough to
run the country. They seem to think the  rest of us need their advice, as we
aren't smart enough. They think ocial programs hurt the country, and designed
to get lazy people to vote for democrats.



You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 14, 2018, 12:46:36 pm
Hate crimes have encreased since Trump took power almost 2 years ago.
Though many try to deny it, Trumps hateful rhetoric is likely the cause. When
asked far right and hate groups are happy with Trump in the white house.
They feel embolden by his apparent support.

President Trump is apparently depressed due to the GOP losses in the
midterm election. Even so upset  his staff is avoiding him where possible.
Trump is a man who isn't used to loosing or told no by anyone.

Trump talks about how good a deal maker he is, but it's winning the deal 
he wants, not the compromises he is facing with the democrats in power.

Compromise is the name of the game with politics. The GOP own on power
has given Trump most of what he wants. Rule by decree. This is going to
change and Trump knows it, and it drives him crazy. As we have seen in
the past, when Trump is aggravated he becomes obsessed with the cause
of it for days.

We should expect to see changes in the white house staaff, as it's
likely Trump is looking to blame others for his failures. Even cabinet
members could find themselves without a job. Changes after the
midterm is common with presidents, but with Trump who can say.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 15, 2018, 12:44:31 pm
President Trumps appointment to the office of atterny general is still causing
problems. The constitution requires the deputy atterny general to take over if
the AG leaves, but Trump is apparently trying to pull a fast one by putting
a fixer for himself in as atterny general. Time will tell if Trump gets by
with it or not.

The democrats continue to pick up seats in the house even after a week
of vote counting in California. The democrats only needed 23 flips to gain
control, but they may end upgaining 40 seats.

According to the news media the Democrats are arguing about who is to
be the speaker of the house. I don't think it's as big a deal as the media 
is making it out to be, but the democrats need to work together and not
fight.

Sometimes I wish there was another party we could  vote for. Hopefully we
will have more moderate independant members in congress as time goes by.

Secretary Carson who oversee's HUD is paying holders of large apartment
complexes millions of tax dollars. This in it's self is fine, but it turns out these
appartments are falling apart with mold, andinfested with  roaches and vermin.

Housing for the poor as this is reprehensible. You would think HUD would require
these conditions repaired, and cleaned up. Yet HUD just continues to give extensions
 
to the owners while paying them over $1000 a month per apartment. Instead HUD
should fine them for renting appartments like these to HUD.

Secretary Carson works for president Trump so it's Trumps responsibility. I rather
doubt if Trump even cares as in his  mind poor people are losers who take money
from his pocket.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 16, 2018, 12:39:43 pm
Presidents Trumps secretary of education has cost tax payers 20 million to
provide her with extra special protection by federal marshalls. More than any
other cabinet member who cost a bit over 3 million. This started when the
secretary was heckled while speaking at a school. This woman is pushing
very controversial ideas for our public schools, so it's no wonder she would
meet with some opposition. I very much doubt if she has any credible
threats of serious violence to her person. Any that are related to her job
as Secretary of Education that is.

I think she is just a spoiled multi billionaire who expects special treatment.
If she feels so threatened she should resign instead of costing tax payers
millions of dollars.

Supporters of Trump should be complaining about Trumps excessive costs
to our country. Trump thinks his billionaire friends are so smart . Instead
they cost us 100's of millions that could help imporove the lives of  many
many American citizens.

A federal court judge rules the white house must return a press pass to a
CNN reporter. The White house had claimed the reporter was disruptive, and
had to be removed. The judge ruled that the reporter was denyed due process.
 I bet this decision irritated Trump, as the judge was one of his appointees.

I saw the interaction between the reporter and Trump. The only disruption was
to Trumps authority, not to the news conference. Trump doesn't like it when his
answers are questioned. All Trump had to say was "No comment", but Trump
wanted to create the problem in the first place. Trumps supporters like it when
he gives reporters a hard time. Just as he does during his rallys.

President Trump is going to California to see the fire damaged areas.  I think this is
Trump trying to rebuild a bridge he destroyed with his tweets about poor forest
management causing the fires. I expect Trump is hoping to improve his chances
for the 2020 election. Trump has no empathy so he best not adlib and stay with
his pre prepared speeches while there. Trump doesn't like the fact California gave
H Clinton a big majority in the popular vote.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 17, 2018, 12:34:15 pm
The GOP leader of the senate is doing his best to hold power for the GOP by putting
young conservative judges in the federal court system. He has been responsible for
allowing dark money into politics. Allowing millions to be donated by billionaires to
help keep the minority party of the GOP in power. He is also responsible for limiting
the peoples right to vote. He feels only the GOP should rule the United States, and
continues to do all he can to stop the democrats so they can't pass any legislation
that helps the average American, or the poor.. In some ways this man is a greater
risk to our country than Trump. The only way to stop him is for the democrats to
take the senate.

President Trump is apparently trying to hand a Turkish claret over to the Turkish
leader, so he will stop talking about the Saudi Prince having a hand in the assassination 
of the Washington post reporter. This Turkish man is a card carring citizen of the U.S.A.
The leader of Turkey wants this man so he can imprison, torture and kill him after
a mock trial for treason. This man has lived in the united states legally for 20 years.
Yet Trump is trying to send him to his death. Likely to please the Saudi Prince. One
has to wonder if it's a bribe. Trump has been trying to borrow money from the Saudi
Prince, so it's pretty suspicious.

There is a handfull of white democrats who is trying to dictate who should be speaker
of the house when the democrats take over. The GOP has been trying to run down Nancy
Pelosi for years. This fact is a good enough reason to put her in the position. She has been
a very effective leader of the democratic party. I think this is whay the GOP worked so hard
to defeat H.Clinton. They knew she could hurt the GOP's image. 

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 18, 2018, 12:54:23 pm
The democrats have a long list of people who will be called to answer questions
under oath in public hearings. The white wash by the GOP over the past 2 years
to protect Trump and his cronies will soon be exposed for what it is. I have
a hunch there is a lot of lawyers being hired to help Trumps appointees get
through these hearings unscathed. 

It's time the democrats put more minorities in leadership positions. Without
women, African American, and other minority voters the democrats would lose
nearly every election. So it's time they recognized their value and their rights
in our republic. The GOP is even worse in that they have few women and minorities
in their caucus.

President Trump wants to control the press. If he can't he wants to say it's
fake. This is an attack on our democracy, not just the press. Trump knows
when his lies are revealed they hurt his credibility. This is why Trump plants
friendly people in his audience. Even friendly fake reporters in his news
conferences. This is why he is on Fox News. They treat Trump like a
prince because they are paid to do so.

Trump has done this from the beginning, putting paid supporters in audiences
to make him look better than he actually is. Trump bad mouths the press, but
he loves the press. He uses the press by lieing and making fake claims. He
knows the press will jump at anything that is strange or fake. Trump used
this tactic during his campaign to get much more exposure than he would have
gotten otherwise. We should expect him to continue doing this hoping to win
in 2020.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 19, 2018, 12:58:28 pm
President Trump tries to claim the CIA is wrong each time they tell him
facts that go against his wishes.  This denial of real facts can cause bad
decisions that may hurt the country economically,  diplomatically and
militarily. Doing this just to help him politically and financially is wrong
and un patriotic. Denying real facts has caused the downfall of many
countries.
 
President Trump continues to make weird claims about the fires in California.
Even to say raking leaves in the woods. Big fires travel in the trees more than
they do on the ground. Actually it's my understanding the reason we have
these huge fires is because we don't let small fires clear out brush and
undergrowth. In this case it's more to do with dry weather and high winds. If
Trump wants to fuss , he should be fussing at the U.S. forest service. They
look after 60% of California forests. His claims that Finland has less fires
due to forest management is just another one of Trumps false stories.
Finland said Trumps claims were not valid.

The next presidential election is 2 years away and foreign interests are starting
to advertise false info on Facebook and other online social media sites. Apparently
in support of Trump and the GOP. They seem to believe keeping Trump in the
white house will continue to weaken United States influence abroad. No
doubt countries like China, and Russia want to gain influence on the world scene.
Dictators around the world would love to see the United States turn inward, and
leave them alone.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 20, 2018, 01:31:18 pm
Well well well it would seem the presidents daughter has used personal email
accounts to send messages to other people in Trumps administration. Not just
birthday wishes or greetings, but white house data, perhaps classified information
too. Not only his daughter, but others in the white house staff as well. Trump
himself uses a unprotected cell phone  to talk to friends and who knows else.

Trump preached time and time again about how illegal this kind of use of emails is for
government workers. So is he calling for his daughter to be "Locked UP"?  Of
course not. "This is different according to the white house. So it's okay for Trump
and his people to break the law. Olh they didn't know it was wrong. This is sad and
laughable as she and others in Trumps circle would have had to have been in a
trance to not know about Trumps attacks on Clintons emails.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 21, 2018, 12:35:15 pm
The democrats decision of who will be the speaker of the house is still up in the air.
Hopefully they get this cleared up before they take power. The democrats have a lot
on their plate without fighting over weho is to be speaker.

President Trump is the lazyest man we have ever had  in the white house. On
monday of this week all he did was watch a horse drawn wagon bring a christmas
tree to the white house. Oh he did give one of the horses a pat on the rump. Trump
claims he is on the phone several hours a day working, but who is he talking to?
Reports say he calls people at Fox news and other friends more than anyone
else. Who can say what he  talks about. It's very possible the leaks Trump
complains about were leaked by himself, because he loves to bragg.

Even though the CIA concluded the crown prince of Saudi Arabia was likely
responsible for the murder of the Washington post reporter, Trump sill claims
he believes the prince when he said he didn't know about it. Trump added that
there was too much at stake to punish the Saudi's for this act. Trump claimed
that Saudi Arabia was spending hundreds of billions which kept hundreds of
thousands of Americans working. The facts are that Saudi Arabia only has
about 15 billion under contract. This supports only about 20,000 jobs, not
hundreds of thousands like Trump claims.

One could claim one life isn't worth the loss of jobs. But how many will be
killed before people like Trump will take a stand for them? Also if we start
putting prices on humanity where will it end?

I wish all Americans a happy Thanksgiving.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 22, 2018, 12:00:24 pm
President Trump had a q and a with the press this morning after wishing
the military a happy Thanksgiving. As usual it was more of a speech
after answering each questions. In many cases he didn't even answer
the question. Just responded with rambling and repeating complaints
about those who oppose him. And of course his claims of
his great decisions and the economy.

Much of what Trump complained about was decisions by the federal court. As
usual Trump made mistakes about which court that was involved. Trump
doesn't like it when the courts block his unconstitutional decrees. To hear
Trump talk he and his people are smarter than anyone else. It's easy to tell
when Trump lies or pushes one of his  dumb ideas. He just goes on, and on,
and on about how bad or good it is.

Trump and the GOP have ben and will continue trying to pack the court
system with conservative judges. You can be sure it it was the democrats
doing it the GOP would be crying foul, and how terrible it is. This will
continue as long as the GOP control the white house and the senate.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 23, 2018, 12:43:37 pm
What is the GOP up to? They are starting a hearing on how the FBI
director handled investigations during the 2016 election. Seems to  me
they should have done that  2 years ago. Now they want to have closed
door hearings where they could leak out of context information. This is
likely some last minute posturing trying to look like they really care.

Will the fake AG try to stop the investigation by the special counsel? It's
hard to say. Even to  know as the AG can coverup almost anything he
wants. A perfect fixer for Trump and his cronies. At least Trump hopes so.

The new democrat house of Representatives can call the fake atterney
general in for questioning. So he might have to talk or face serious
troubles.

President Trump is saying he may shut down the government if
congress fails to fund his big wall with Mexico. Trump is likely
hopeing for a conflict that the army will have to deal with. This
could backfire on Trump if innocent  families are caught in a
crossfire.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 24, 2018, 12:59:33 pm
Is president Trump a coward? After 22 months in office Trump hasn't met
with the troops on forign soil or in war zones unlike previous presidents.
He makes excuses for not going to military cemeteries. Could it be he
doesn't want to face the reality of death? We know he avoided the draft
while tens of thousands wen to war in Viet Nam. Trump has spent most
of his adult life protected by body guards. Now he is under the protection
of the secret service, who will be with him till his death. There is some
evidence he still has his own personal body guards. Could it be he
fears someone in  the secret service might come after him? Who can say.

There is a run off election for the U.S. Senate in Mississippi next tuesday.
Being a red state it's likely the republican will when, but the democrat is
pressing hard. So there is a possibility the democrat could win. Trump is
going there to a political rally. I have a hunch it's more of a rally for Trump
than the GOP candidate. Time will tell who wins.  It would be an embarrassment
for Trump if the republican lost. Especially after having a rally for her.

Southern states have a reputation for being racist and hard right conservative.
They don't do much to help the poor or minorities either.  The GOP have a habit
of blaming the poor for being poor. Instead they work hard to help the rich. This
might make America great for the rich, but not for the rest of us.

The GOP claim helping the rich will make jobs, and cutting taxes will help the
economy. So I wonder why the country does better with more pay for workers
under the democrats who raise taxes, regualte big businesses and help the poor.

The last time the country had a balanced budget was with a democrat in the
white house. Yet the GOP continues to have big debt due to their tax cuts.
It's likely because the  GOP's help for the rich hurts the economy instead
of helping as they claim.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 25, 2018, 12:05:22 pm
A government report on the inviroment came out the other day. It  gives dire
predictions we can expect over the next 100 years or less. Higher temperatures,
flooding coastlines, more intense storms, not counting crop losses and deaths.
Trump  is staying this is a worst case claim, and there is no reason to be concerned.
Well the longer we wait to  fix the problem the more damage it will do, and may
become unfixible in the future.

President Trump wants respect, but he hasn't done anything to gain the respect
he wants. Respect doesn't come with a job, it has to be earned. Trump doesn't
seem to understand this. Any respect he had, he bought. Just like his friends.
If his money went away he would be a very lonely friendless man.

Trump is trying to say Mexico will stop migrants from crossing the boarder into
the united states, but Mexico says they have no such agreement with the U.S.
So time will tell. Perhaps Trump has offered Mexico a very big carrot to do this,
but I doubt if Mexico wants to take care of thousands of immigrants awaiting
to cross the boarder.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 26, 2018, 12:02:37 pm
Russia attacks Ukraine warships within a shipping lane claiming Ukraine
was trespassing in Russian waters. This passage is considered a free
passage for international shipping, so it would seem Russia is testing
world resolve with it's criminal actions. Not standing up to this kind of
action by Russia could lead to war in the future. Especially if they are
allowed to get by with it. Past wars were usually proceeded by acts of
nations bullying others.

So far several nations have called this an illegal action by Russia, but so
far Trump hasn't said anything. There is a international meeting of nations
in the near future where Trump plans to meet with Putin. Time will tell if
Trump will sanction Russia for this act or not? It's unfortunate, but many
of Trumps supporters want the U.S. to stay out of international politics.
Dictators like Putin often test other nations to gain more power, and if
unopposed will keep pushing till there is a war that could involve the
U.S. like it or not.

There was trouble at the boarder with Mexico and California over
the weekend.  Hundreds of people tried to cross the boarder into
the U.S. , but the boarder guards turned them back. Tear gas was
used when bottles and rocks were thrown. No one knows who
actuallyh threw the rocks, but it's not likely womna and cildren did
it. Yet they were gassed as well.

Trump is claiming he will close the boarder with Mexico if this
continues. The interruption of commerce between our two countries
will cost thousands of jobs here in the U.S. So Trump would likely
catch heck if the boarder was closed for any lenght of time.

It wouldn't surprise me if Trump hird Mexicans to throw rocks and
bottles to allow an excuse to use tear gass on families. There isn't
any proof of this, but it's a good conspiracy theory. If you think
Trump is above this kind of thing. Just remember he has hired
people in the past to make him look good politically.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 27, 2018, 01:21:27 pm
Sees people Trump hires lie, it makes me wonder if that is a job requirement. Do you
know how to lie? 

Does Trump plan to pardon thosese who ran his campign? If he does it may show him up
to be the lieing con artist he is. Anyone he pardons can still be called to testify before congress.
Once pardoned they can't claim 5th amendment protection. If they lie to congress they can
be sent to jail. Trump would have to pardon them again, and again if they continue to lie.
Perhaps at some point even Trump supporters would see the light.

Several GM plants are closing in January, putting almost 15 thousand workers out of
a job. Many of them likely voted for Trump. I wonder if they still plan to vote for him
again? After all Trump ran saying he would make more manufacturing jobs. GM is doing
this even though Trump saved them a huge amount in taxes. More proof big business
looks out for them selves and not the workers.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 28, 2018, 12:00:24 pm
The GM plant closings are making Trump look bad, he promised manufacturing
jobs for people living in the areas near those plants. Now they have little
to look farward to in the new year. Will Trump push for retraining like H Clinton
promised? I doubt it verymuch. Trump is troubled by it, but it's going to  take
more than a few tweets to help those people.

President Trump is threatening a government shutdown if he doesn't
get money for his wall. The wall is a big waste of money and the GOP
knows it. This is why Trump hasn't got funding yet. I thinkk he is betting
his wall will help him get a second term in the white house. In fact I think
he feels this business with the Mexican boarder got him elected and
will do the same in 2020.

I doubt if he even cares personally who crosses the boarder. It's
just a plan to keep him in the white house. Where he can enrich himself
and his family. His polan to make America Great is to benefit himself 
and his rich friends. If it helps Mr. and Mrs. America fine, but only if he
benefits from it.

Many people think the wall will stop drugs from coming into the
country. It won't. Most drugs come in by car, truck, air, or by boat.
Some by foot, but not enough to justify a wall that will be breached
many times. We should increase the size of the ports of entry instead.
that would allow better inspection of cars and trucks. Problem is a
port of entry isn't very showy like a big wall.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 29, 2018, 12:00:56 pm
President Trump is off to Argentina for a meeting with world leaders  to make
trade deals, or plans of deals. It would be interesting to  listen into those
meetings to see how Trump acts when the cameras aren't on him. Especially
the meeting with Putin. Will Trump bring up Russias attack on Ukraine ships,
who were within a narrow sea passage close to Russia? Will Trump cow to
Putins will again as he did in the news conference after his last meeting?
Only time will tell.

Late update! Trump has cancelled his meeting with  Putin. Trump said it
was because Russia still help  Ukraines sailors captive.

To hear Trump talk all those who are talking to the special counsel have been
virtually tortured into lieing about him. To hear Trump talk all his political
enimies are guilty of treason. Including the special counsel. I guess Trump
forgot the charge of treason only counts during war time. Makes one wonder
if Trump will call for hangings next. Time will tell.

It appears Trump was trying to gain approval to build a Trump tower in Moscow
during his campaign. There isn't anything wrong with that, except that he lied
about it. Saying he had no buisness activities with Russia. So we have to ask
why did he think he had to  lie about his project in Russia? Trump has been
trying to expand into Russia for over 30 years. So it's no wonder why he has
been so cozy with Putin. We have to wonder what Trump would offer Putin to 
do real estate projects in Russia? Trump might be a good real estate man, but
he knows little about world politics, and could lead us all into war.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 30, 2018, 11:58:24 am
It appears this revelation of his business with Russia has President Trump on edge.
Seems he can't chew gum and walk at the same time. As in the past when he doesn't
like something he can't get his mind off it. Reports from the meeting in Argentina isn't 
going well for Trump as he appears to be more worried about his Russian business lies
than his job as president. Several state meetings have been canceled
apparently due to Trumps agitation.

The democrats continue to make plans for investigations when they take power. Not
just investigations alone, but working to cut drug costs and work on infrastructure as
well. In 2012 Obama pushed for work on our infrastructure, but the GOP only
wanted to get rid of the ACA (Obama care) and little else.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 01, 2018, 12:13:47 pm
President H.W. Bush passed away last night at the age of 94. Bush was a man
Trump could learn alot from. He was a find generous man who believed in giving
credit to others when it was deserved. He could laugh at himself. He didn't try
to be some kind of emperor like Trump trys to be. I didn't agree with his politics,
but he helped end the cold war bygetting Russia to allow the Berlin wall fall, and to
allow Germany to become one again.


Unlike Trump H.W. Bush though rich, didn't act like many rich people who think they
are better than others. Instead he believed in serving the country instead of taking
from the country as president. Also unlike Trump he volunteered to fight during
WWII. Where Trump worked to avoid military service altogether. Bush was a patriot
instead of a money grubbing con artist like Trump is.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 02, 2018, 12:05:18 pm
I don't think Trump ran for president to win, but to get
tons of free publicity that would help his businesses. Winning
may have been a surprise he has used to make himself
even more famous. A desire anyone with a super ego would
enjoy, and like an addiction to a drub would play to the limit.

President Trumps cover up of his Moscow Trump hotel project may cause him
to be impeached if anything does. It will likely end up putting several of his
cronies in jail as they lied to congress and the FBI staying loyal to Trump, by
lieing about his hotel project.

Trumps business habits may have caused him to think it was okay to keep his
project covered up, but he didn't understand shifting from business to politics
chenged the game. So when he lied about his business with Russia on the
political stage he trapped himself, and likely felt he had to keep it secret
especially after Russia released stolen emails. Because he didn't want the
public to think he had any ties to Russia after that.

I doube if Trumps supporters would have cared if Trump was
tryting to build the hotel  in Moscow if he had owned up to it from the
beginning. Even with his plans to remove sanctions to free up Russian
money for the project. Peeople wanted change, and felt Trump was
the best of two evils. The coverup and associated lies that are
creating his troubles.  We caon only wonder what other issues
Trump has. Only time will tell.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 03, 2018, 11:49:04 am
President Trump had bad mouthed the Bush who was in the
presidential primary, and Bush 2 who started the war with
Iraq. Now he has shown some respect for G.H.W. Bush, and
plans to be at the funeral. It would be nice  if Trump would 
show the same respect for our country, and the majority of
Americans.

Trump seems to think he has to fight back if someone bad
mouthed him, or perhaps hurts him financially. As a individual
this would be fine, but as president he should take the high
ground and stayout of the mud. It drags us all down when he
does. Trump apparently can't separate himself personally from
his job as president. The reporting about G.W.H. Bush has shown
us what a real president looks like. A person who serves the country
instead of oneself.   

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 04, 2018, 01:19:35 pm
Trump claims he made a deal with China to delay an increase in tariffs for
90 days. Yet so far China hasn't said anything to support Trumps claim.
Only time will tell if Trump was lieing or not.

President Trump tweets ofer the last few days are enough to get him 
impeached. That is if we had a congress with any honor. When the
democrats take the house they may impeach Trump, but I fear the 
GOP controlled senate will fail to convict Trump of any wrong doing.

The leader of the senate appears to be afraid of Trump. In the first
few months of 2017 the senate leader was opposing Trump, then
he mysteriously changed. Could it be Trump has threatened to expose
something in his past that might destroy him politically or even put
him in Jail? Who can say. Trump has made threats to expose peoples
wrong doing in the past if they failed to support him. We can only
wonder how much dirt he may have on those in government. I think
Trump would do about anything to stay in office.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 05, 2018, 11:47:30 am
President Trump is having to play second fiddle today. He wasn't asked
to speak at the funeral of President G.H.W. Bush. Only asked to attend.
So he has to be still while he and 5 other presidents sit with respect.

This is the first time since Trumps inauguration that he has been in the
same place as President Obama and secretary H. Clinton. One can only
wonder what was going through Trumps mind. I imagine his wife kept
his cell phone during the funeral.

We can only hope Trump will be a better president over the next two years.
I think we can be sure he will continue to campaign for a second term if
nothing else.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 06, 2018, 11:57:04 am
In states where the GOP lost governor races and still have legislature
control are removing powers from the govenor and state leadership.
They claim they are only correcting problems to keep the new leadership
from abusing existing powers. These powers they want to remove are
about giving voters more time to vote, and providing health coverage for
people with pre-existing conditions. It's easy to see the GOP is out to
protect their big business, and billionaire friends as usual.

All across the country the GOP claim they should have a balance of power,
but they try to hold total power instead. They seem to think only they can
keep this country from failing. They feel social programs will harm this
country. The only harm social programs might cause is to the bottom
line of billionaires and big business. It's time these people gave a little
back to the people who have made them so rich.

The GOP and Trump cry voter fraud when they loose elections, but in
North Carolina the GOP apparently tried to steal elections with their
own voter fraud. Isn't it odd that Trump or the GOP  is so quiet ab out
it.

President Trump is complaining about the comparison between him and
Bush 41. Trump lets his ego control him, and acts like a 7 year old when
he doesn't get the respect he wants. The sad part is Trump isn't adult
enough to see it. All he can see is the money he is making as president.

This business where GM is closing 4 factories with some production going
to Mexico, being in states Trump won is driving him and the GOP crazy.
After all the GOP and Trump gave them a huge tax cut. They reminded
GM of the bail out Obama worked to give GM. Of course they didn't
mention Obamas name. Congress is continueing to have hearings with
GM hoping to stop the closures. Somehow I doubt Trump or the GOP
would really care if it wasn't for the votes they may loose over this.
They have shown they don't care if people have health  care or reasonable
costs for medicine.

I hope they do convince GM to  stay since the people need those jobs
no matter who is running the government.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 07, 2018, 11:50:31 am
President Trump ran for election claiming he is against illegal immigration, yet he
hires undocumented aliens. Not only that, he brings aliens into the country to work
in his resorts and hotels. Where are the American workers he claims to support?
It's just more of his hypocrisy. He is out to hire workers for as little as he can pay.

President Trump appointed a new ambassador to the Unighted Nationsd. The one
Trump previously appointed didn't exactly follow his line. We can wonder if the
new one will do a better job of following Trumps line. She has little experience
so the Senate may be slow to approve her. Trump hired her because he liked
her on Fox News. Not for her experience, but because his gut liked her.
Yes that same gut that caused him to go bankrupt 4 times.

Trump may appoint a new atterney general soon. He is a conservative, but one
from the old school, so he might not follow Trumps unlawful demands. He has
the experience so will likely be approved by the senate.

Trump may choose a new chief of staff soon. He apparently has a eye on one
that has more political savvy. As we know Trumps re election is coming up in a
couple years, and Trump desperately wants a second term.

There are signs the economy is slowing down. Trumps tariffs aren't helping it so
Trump may be facing a weak economy by the time he runs for a second term. This
alone could spell the end of the Trump presidency.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 08, 2018, 12:36:02 pm
Will the democrats impeach president Trump? They say they want
to wait for the special counsels report. Well the AG can hide the
report if he wants. What then? Sure at this time the GOP controled
senate wouldn't likely convict Trump, but the process would show
the American people why he should be removed and let the GOP
explain why they want to keep him. In 2020 20 GOP senators
will be up for re election. So they might want to think twice
before keeping Trump. Especially after their big loss in the house.

 The leader of the senate warned the democrats to not harass the
president as it might cost them votes, like it did the GOP over the
impeachment of Clinton. Well what Clinton did was nothing compared
to what Trump has done. So I doubt if the democrats would suffer
much. After all Trums supporters arn't likely to vote for democrats
anyway.


With each court filing by the special counsel Trump faces more and
more trouble. Even yet Trump does nothing but deny his guilt. All
his life Trump has bought his way out of trouble. Time will tell if
he can wiggle out of trouble again. Even with many of his men
going to jail.

The democrats take over of the house removes the GOP cover
Trump has had over the last two years. So now if he tries to
use his pardon power to keep his men quiet it won't work.
Once pardoned his men can't hide behind the 5th amendment,
and if they lie to congress they ccan be sent to jail. If Trump
tries to pardon them again congress can charge them again if
they lie.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 09, 2018, 11:52:54 am
The GOP continues to waste tax dollars with their investigations of H.Clinton,
the ex FBI director and others. This nonsense will end with the democrats
taking power of the house.

Some people are saying Trump could pardon himself. This is ridiculous. Even
if he did he will likely face state charges which he has no power over. Even if
Trump goes to prison it won't be one with iron bars. It will be more like a camp
where he might have to cut weeds or mop a floor. Of course with a man like
Trump being stuck in a room of anykind would be tough on him.

Trump news (Fox News) spent a lot of time talking about anything but the
news of court filings. When they do they try to trivialize it. Their billionaire
supporters pay for this nonsense hoping to keep the GOP in power. They
don't want to  help the poor or help people get health care. They are like
Scrooge who said let the poor die and lessen the surplus population.

With the culture change this country is moving to,  the GOP will have to
change or end up rotting on the vine.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 10, 2018, 11:58:14 am
The supreme court refused to hear a case about medicaid paying Planned
Parenthood for services. 2 states wanted to stop women from using Planned
parenthood, but lost the battle in favor of the women. Planned Parenthood
though accused of providing abortion and fetal tissues do nothing of the sort
for women on medicaid. Planned Parenthood provides mny health services for
women like cancer screenings they couldn't get otherwise. The GOP in those
states should hang their heads in shame for trying to cut health care for
needy women.

Seems many people think we shouldn't indict a president. I could see this
if we were at war, but Trump is the laziest president we have had in over 100
years. So he has more than enough time to deal with legal issues. Think not?
Trump haqs spent 1/3 of the past two years at his resorts, playing golf or
speaking at rallys trying to get himself re elected instead of working for
the country. This doesn't count all the time he as spent lieing, fussing,
and complaining has done blaiming others for his troubles.

Now our country may be facing a recession in 2019. The stock market is
down around 10% for the year. Do they see a recession coming? only time
will tell. I really doubt if Trump can pull us out of one. He and congress has
already passed a big tax cut. If they pass another the government really
won't have enough money to run on, and will go deeper into debt. This
will cause the dollar to drop in value creating more inflation.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 11, 2018, 12:03:26 pm
President Trump is still trying to get his wall with Mexico. He claims
Mexico will pay for it, but if it is built the tax payers of the United states
will pay for it. Trump is saying he will shut the government down if he
doesn't get funding for his wall. A wall is no barrier to criminals wanting
to get into  the country. Trumps claims it will is just shows his ignorance.
I think this wall of his is more about his re election than national security.

Trump apparently feels his shut down of the government will gain him
votes. Time will tell, but I think it will do him more harm thant good
including the GOP.

Supporters of president Trump seem to think all this information about
Trumps criminal activity is just the left wanting to get rid of Trump.

It sad that talk radio and some tv outlets want to support Trump even
with the growing evidence of his bad doings. I think a lot of it is about

money instead of facts. Trump has a big following and speaking in
 a way that favors Trump can make a lot of money from advertising.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 12, 2018, 12:01:17 pm
President Trump met his match yesterday when he debated with the two
democrat leaders yesterday. They offered to give Trump the same deal
he got last time from the GOP. But Trump said he would shut down the
government if he didn't get his wall. I think they should have asked
him about his promise to get Mexico to pay for it. In the past Trump
mention that he would add tariffs if they didn't pay, but that would
be a tax on Americans not Mexico.

Trump supporters should hold Trump to his promise that Mexico pay, not
Americans. Not let him get by with a dodge trying to blame the democrats
for his failure. If they let him get by with taxing Americans for the wall he
will want to forget about making Mexico pay.

If Trump does shut down the government by not signing the funding bill. He
is risking a lot especially since he said he would accept the blame for it. It appears
many conservatis cheered Trumps statement he would shut down the government, 
but how many of them accually work for the government, and if it was to last
for weeks, many people would suffer at Trumps expense. 

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 13, 2018, 11:58:31 am
President Trump appears to be worried about his possible impeachment. Well
he should. Once out of the white house he will be subject to prosecution for
several crimes.

Trumps claim of being a good president doesn't hold water. He has done
little except remove regulations to benifit big business. Many were to protect
the inviroment, and the public health. Yet Trump was likely paid to get rid of
them to help their bottom line.

The net is closing in on Trump and his people. Several of  his GOP friends
are starting to  waver in their support. Especially after their big loss in the
midterm election. Now with  the Democrats holding the house Trump will be
investigated even more.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 14, 2018, 11:50:18 am
Trump and the  GOP have been trying hard to get rid of the ACA.
(Obamacare) So fewer people are using it. Now there are cheaper
plans out there that don't give good coverage. So as in the past
people will find out the hard way that they still owe a lot of money
after they get out of the hospital. They can thank the friendly GOP
and Trump for their monetary headaches.

Trump got over 100 million dollars in donations for his inauguration.
The special counsel is looking into who gave the money. Checking
to see if any was foreign money which would be illegal. Also he is
checking to see where the money went. Less than 30 million was
spent on the inauguration it's self, so that leaves over 70 million
in someones pocket.

President Trump is trying to say his lawyer made the decision to
pay off the pkorn star he visited with. Well I don't think we can
believe anything Trump says. He has lied over 6000 times since
he took office. Besides Trump has a history of not wanting
anything done without his personal approval.

Trump is still looking for a cheif of staff. With all the problems
Trump  has made for himself it's not surprising he is having
trouble finding someone to  work for him in the white house.
There is some rumers that Trump will pick his son n law to
do the job. Talk about a family business. We need laws that
prevent this kind of thing. Trump seems to worry that he can't
trust anyone but family. Makes one wonder what Trump is trying
to hide.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 15, 2018, 11:54:12 am
The GOP found a federal judge in Texas to declare the ACA unconstitutional.
They said they were for covering pre existing conditions, which was a lie. Also
they never put any limits on premium costs for such insurance either. They
continue working to protect the bottom line of big insurance who makes
billions yearly  on the backs of the American people. The GOP took a hit for
their big business protection policies in the midterm. I hope they take a
bigger one in 2020.

Inspite of this judges decision the ACA hasn't gone away, it will take a long
time to run this through the courts. Untill then it's still in force.

The GOP has been trying to get rid of entitlements for many years. They consider
the ACA another ones  like medicaid, social security, and medicare. They feel these
programs will drive up taxes for big businesses. Something rich people want cut.

A child died due to Trumps policies along the Mexican boarder. I find it hard
to understand how they find people to work in ICE thata can do what they do.
The Trump administration must brainwash these people to get them to have
such indifference to suffering by other human beings. People who support this
kind of thing better hope there isn't a God, as it's totally anti christian to let
children suffer. ICE dumps the water that concerned citizens leave in the
desert. This alone is discusting and inhuman.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 16, 2018, 12:44:10 pm
Many people feel Trump is nothing but a mob boss using the
office of the presidency to make himself and his friends even
richer. When you look at Trump in this light one can see why
so many of those worked for him are going to jail. Trump would
be in serious legal trouble if he wasn't the president. Even with
that he is a un indicted conspirator. Yet many of his supporters
don't want to believe he  has lied.

President Trump's support may be cracking a bit. Even Fox News
isn't solidly behind Trump like they were. Will people finally see
through Trumps con job? Trump will use every sales tactic he
knows to sell himself to those that supported him in 2016.

The problem is he needs more, because a lot of people voted
for Trump as a vote against H. Clinton. I imagine meny of those
would vote for a democrat if they like the candidate. The midterm
election showed many people are tired of Trump and his cronies.

The GOP leaders are saying the democrats are wanting to move
the country to the left, and create socialist programs that will
ruin the country. What they don't want to admit is it's their big
business billionaire supporters who  is afraid of liberal programs
that would cost them billions in increased taxes.

They like the NRA are afraid if they let the democrats pass
programs that help the people, they won't be able to turn
it around, because like social security people would turn against
any party who tried to take it away.

Medicare for all would be a great program. It would help those with
pre existing conditions, and would save them 1000's of dollars in
insurance premiums. Yes it's likely payroll deductions would increase
some, but over all it would be cheaper. Unfortuantly big insurance
would try to scare people away from it, just as they do when limits
on drug prices are brought up. It's all about billionaires wanting to
make more, and more money. They will fight, cheat and lie to get
richer, no matter who it hurts. 

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 17, 2018, 11:52:09 am
President Trump and the GOP want to take good health insurance
away from some 23 million people. Trump and the GOP claim they
want to create a new plan that would be cheaper. This is a lie
as they have spent the last 8 years trying to get rid of the ACA.
The only plan they have is to help the insurance companies make
billions providing lousy coverage for those who can't afford their
high priced plans. .

President Trump is worried along with his lawyers. They know
the democrats will do investigations the GOP blocked over the
last two years. Trump and his people just detract and lie day in
and day out. If Trump was so innocent he should quit lieing,
throw his smart phone away and shut up. As long as they keep
trying to cover everything up they look guilty, and more guilty.

Trump might make a good president if he stopped lieing and realized
he isn't that smart, and reach out to those who are.. He is a good
salesman, but nothing much else. He even cheats at golf.

I think the GOP has become a danger to the security of the country.
The leaders of the party are nothing but money grubbing power
hungry people. They are working hard to keep the power they have,
even to change laws when they loose elections, to help them win the
next one.

It's time the American people let the GOP know they will loos power
with their dirty tricks and lies. The democrats are far from being
perfect, but at least they try to be honest, even when it costs them
elections.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 19, 2018, 12:03:49 pm
The state of New York has shut down Trumps piggy  bank he called a
foundation for charity. It seems Trump used it to get kickbacks from
companies he did business with. They called it a donation to Trumps
foundation. This way Trump got money tax free. Money he used for
personal needs, like repairs to a fountain, and paying legal bills. If
the New York state AG can prove this Trump and his family will be
in deep trouble. Trump of course is claiming innocence.

There are reports that Trump is pulling troops out of Syria. It appears
Trump is wanting to claim victory against ISIS.  Yet if we leave, Turkey wil
attack the Curds who have been helping us fight ISIS, which by the way
is still there. Once we are gone it's likely ISIS will regroup and start
growing again. We should stay till ISIS is gone. This is just a political
ploy by Trump, and only helps Iran, and Russia take over the area.

It seems the government shut down won't happen unless Trump fails
to sign a funding bill that is moving through congress. It doesn't support
Trumps ridiculous wall, so who can say.

Also a prison reform bill is working it's way through congress that could
end up releasing many people who have received long sentences for no
good reason. The GOP likes it as it saves money for the government,
and the democrats like it because it's the human thing to do. Since both
parties have good reasons to  vote for it it's getting a overwhelming
passing vote. Even Trump supports it. One of the few good things
I caqn give him credit for.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 20, 2018, 12:17:36 pm
It's about 2 weeks till the democrats take over the house,
and the GOP is in turmoil. Mostly due to President Trump
who is scared of loosing support from his base.

It appears president Trump is getting a lot of kick back with
his decision to pull out of Syria. Most of his support is from
Russia, Syria, and Turkey. Perhaps it was them he wanted to
please. Especially Turkey. If ISIS comes back strong, Trump
will look like the fool he appears to be.

Who will help us fight ISIS once Turkey has pushed the Curds
out of the battle.? Without local support it will be very hard
to do anything in the region.

Trump Twis also catching heck for not standing up for his wall
with Mexico. So it appears Trump is threatening to shunt down
the government if he doesn't get the money to build it. I think
a 2/3 vote could be found to defeat Trumps veto, but I wonder
if the GOP is willing to go that route. They know the wall and
the shut down both will cause them trouble. A strong majority of
Americans oppose the wall. Along with Trumps inhuman treatment
of people seeking protection from Central American dangers.

Trumps stupid wall may box him and the GOP in so tight they
can't do anything.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 21, 2018, 11:44:02 am
The defense secretary is resigning due to Trumps ignorant
actions with foreign policy. During the past two years the
United States has lost a lot of credibility around the world.
Trump claims to care about national security, but he has done
little or nothing to improve our standing in the world much
less our security.

President Trump and the GOP are in a box. If Trump won't
sign a funding bill without his wall, the government will
shut down and the GOP will have their dirty hand prints
all over it.

Trump said he would take credit for the shut down at
the first of the week, but now he is wanting to blame the
democrats. A game that won't fly. Trump  should tell his
supporters that they will have to wait till Mexico  agrees
to pay for it, as he promised many times during his
campign. Or have a fund raiser to do it. That way those
who want the wall can pay for it. Not millions of tax
payers who don't want it.

It appears Trump is going to allow a shut down. It will
be interesting to see how long it lasts. There was one that
lasted almost a month in the 1980's. You can be sure the
GOP and Trump will blame the democrats every day even
though the GOP owns the government. I thinkl the onwly
lights that work in the white house would be in the oval office
while the shut down is in effect.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 22, 2018, 11:37:30 am
President Trump has shut down most of the government. In fact he said
he would take responsibility for it. Now he wants to blame the democrats
because of Fox News and talk radio. These people weren't elected to run
the government, but Trump submits to their wishes daily.

The GOP speaker of the house could have called for a vote to keep the
government open by passing the clean bill the senate passed with a
huge majority. The democrats would have voted with them to give
them a veto proof passage. Yet the speaker cowed to Trumps wishes
and let the country down.
 
Will the democrats stand firm? The GOP,  Trump, Fox News,and talk radio
will be bad mouthing them thinking they will give in. They should be reminding
the public that  this shut down belongs to the GOP and Trump. Other wise the
public will wear down and want the democrats to give in.

The GOP leader of the senate stands at his podium and makes patriotic
speeches, but cares more about the republican party than the country.
Seems the GOP need a land they ccan call their own. A land where the
billionaires roam and play. While their supporters are enslaved to their
whims. Unfortuantly they want to have this rich mans paradise here,
while the rest of us live off their scraps.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 23, 2018, 12:35:14 pm
President Trump is replacing his defense secretary with the deputy defense
secretary. A man who worked in the defense industry. Appears Trump was
mad about the talk of him needing an adult to supervise him. Well when
you have a president who acts like a spoiled brat, it's no wonder people
feel that way.

Well as I figured the GOP is out in force bad mouthing the democrats for not
supporting Trumps dumb ideas. Those in the GOP leadership should stand
against him. Much of his support comes from the GOP leaders standing
up for Trump. If they would tell their base the facts, Trumps support
would mostly fade over time.

President Trump claims criminals and terrorists are invading the country and
we need his wall to stop them. This is crazy. Bad people would not find a
wall a significan obstacle to them. It won't stop drug traffic either. 95% of
drugs come through ports of entry, and would likely use drones to carry
drugs over a wall. Money should be spent on technology to stop illegal
traffice instead. Trumps wall is nothing but a vanity object he can put
his name on, and point to. Improvements to ports of  entry
would do more to stop ilegal traffic.

Trump is nothing but a coffee shop politician who gripes aboiut the
government. They talk about things they know little or nothing
about. They use conspiracy theories they have heard from friends
or talk radio. People like this rarely understand anything other than
a emotional desire for fame.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 24, 2018, 01:48:25 pm
President Trump continues to sit in the White house while letting government
workers go home. All I can say is Trump just as well go to his resort in Florida
instead of pouting in the oval office. He and the GOP could have prevented the
shut down. Instead they want to blame the democrats for their own inaction.

President Trump or perhaps fake president Trump can't seem to keep people
working for him. There is at least 6 acting people working in the administration.
Now he is trying to blaim the federal reserve for the stock market decline. An
office  run by a man Trump himself appointed. The largest decline in many
years.

This could be the beginning to a slow down in the economy after many
years of growth. Trump cliams he caused the growth over the last two
years. So he will likely get credit for a slow down too. We could be in a
full blown recession by 2020.




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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 24, 2018, 02:15:57 pm
The DOW (Stock Market) just fell another 650 points today. Get ready for a recession next year, folks. Looks like we'll be heading into what's called a "bear market". All the tax cuts and economic promises Trump made didn't last very long. And the trade war with China and/or other countries is making things worse. Only about a year and now the bubble has burst. Everything Trump promised only benefitted him, large corporations, and maybe the GOP. The average American citizen like you and me got screwed.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 25, 2018, 11:55:50 am
Yes Kobuk, and Trump will blame everyone but himself. I fear
his gut and the GOP are leading us all down the primrose path.

Trumps gut led him into 4 bankruptcies and we may be next.

Trump said he would get rid of big business lobbyists, yet we
have more than ever before. Most are likely handing Trump
bags of gold. His favorite color.

Trump claimed he was so rich no one could buy him, yet he
is grabbing every dollar he can get his grubby hands on.
Money from big business and foreign governments all.

Like most billionaires Trump only thinks of himself and the
rest of us are expendable.

Being elected president may have been the biggest mistake
of his life. It is shining a light on much of his criminal
activity. Now and in the past.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 26, 2018, 12:03:38 pm
Russia is claiming they have developed a hyper sonic missile that can't be
intersepted. Well this may or not be true, but as with most weopons it's
invulnerability is fleeting. The faster an object travels the harder it is to
change it's course. Satellites traveling at mock 25 can be shot down. So
it's likely only a tracking problem to stop them. Work is being done to
create particle beam weapons, Tesla claimed
it could be done so time will tell.

Another immigrant child has died under Trumps administration. The longer
Trump makes these people stand at the boarder the more will get sick and
die. Some may say "They could return home." Trouble with that is is they
came here to escape being killed in the first place. We can only wonder how
many people have died under Trumps control.

Trump spent the first year of his presidency bragging how much he was
helping the stock market to grow. Now that it is falling he is blaming
the fed for his woes. I imagine the moment the democrats take control
Trump will suddenly say it's their fault.

Trump claims he will only hire the smartest people, then when they don't
work out he hasn't enough guts to fire them. Instead he has someone else
do his dirty work. I am sure many people who support Trump think he is a 
great business man after watching the show Apprintist. What they may not
know is it was all a fantasy to make Trump look good. In fact Trump is a lousy businessman who got most of his riches from his father.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on December 26, 2018, 03:12:28 pm
Directed Energy weapon... this is public knowledge...so the Russians know already.  Yes this is real  ;)

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/directed-energy.html

Russia also has claimed to make awesome human style androids, and later found to be fraud.
Where as we have the real deal.

 :goldglee:

And as for that particle weapon, well.... since it was invented in the , what, early 1940's, and we have had a lot of work on that topic since then, i bet its real now.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 26, 2018, 10:28:26 pm
Directed Energy weapon... this is public knowledge...so the Russians know already.  Yes this is real  ;)

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/capabilities/directed-energy.html

Russia also has claimed to make awesome human style androids, and later found to be fraud.
Where as we have the real deal.

 :goldglee:

And as for that particle weapon, well.... since it was invented in the , what, early 1940's, and we have had a lot of work on that topic since then, i bet its real now.

What does all this have to do with Trump and Congress? Did you post in the wrong forum?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on December 26, 2018, 11:42:56 pm
Russia is claiming they have developed a hyper sonic missile that can't be
intersepted. Well this may or not be true, but as with most weopons it's
invulnerability is fleeting. The faster an object travels the harder it is to
change it's course. Satellites traveling at mock 25 can be shot down. So
it's likely only a tracking problem to stop them. Work is being done to
create particle beam weapons, Tesla claimed
it could be done so time will tell. ...

^  that is what i was responding to. Yes, we have some things to help thwart russias new missle.

If Congress doesn't keep funding for it, it may not make it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 27, 2018, 12:04:05 pm
Trump claimed he signed a contract to build 150 miles of boarder
wall. This is likely another one of his lies. By the way he is up to
7500 lies now. Many are small lies, but a lot are bad ones that
hurt people.

I don't think Trump or the GOP want to fix the immigration laws
here in the United States. They want to keep it as a way to get
more votes. They know it's a volatile issue with many people.
Trump has only spent 6% of the appropriation he got this
year on boarder security. That is solid evidence he has
little interest in preventing immigration.

My understanding is objects traveling at hyper sonic speed can
quickly become unstable if they try to change their course. A
missile could end up destroying it's self in the process. I think it's
likely Putin is trying to convince the world Russia leads in technology
with a system that just does work under good conditions. China
is working on a similar system as we are. You can be sure both would
try to steal any advances we might make.


President Trump made a quick trip to Iraq so he could make a
campaign speech to our troops. Seems Trump can't make a speech
without bragging on himself. It was good he went, but Trump has
no shame or empathy so I wonder how many of our troops really
like him. Trump even exposed a group of navy seals with a photo.
So now every bad guy in the region knows what they look like
and will be looking for them.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 28, 2018, 12:05:32 pm
Trump is saying he will close the boarder with Mexico if the
democrats won't give him the money for a boarder wall. He
can do it, but he will put a lot of his supporters out of work.
Millions of dollars in trade move across the boarder daily. So
I doubt if many of the GOP's big business friends would want to
see that.

The public should understand this business with immigration is
all about the far right not wanting dark skinned people who don't
look and act like themselves, comeing into the country.
All they want is a lilly white population.


President Trump ran claiming he would get rid of corruption
in washington. Yet many of those he has appointed have
used tax dollars for their own benefit or their families benifit.
Rich people who in most cases got their wealth by suspicious
means. People who have a great deal of money tend to think
they are better or smarter than the average person. In truth
they use their wealth to take advantage of people instead of
helping anyone but themselves. 

This is why we should not put the super rich in government.
Because they will continue using the same crooked practices
to take advantage of us all. Trump is a perfect example of this.
It's unfortuant, but many people see the super rich as really
smart people. Trouble is many of them are no better than a
con artist. Some one who would leave a famly homeless and
starving, with a grin on their face.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 29, 2018, 12:06:03 pm
Thousands of immigrant children continue to be held in closed camps
when many could be with relatives or returned to their parents.
We can only wonder how many of Trumps far right supporters
think this is a good thing or want to blame their parents? Perhaps
those who feel this way should be returned to the lands of their
ancestors too, including Trump. How many children will have to
die before Trump has to pay for his uncaring decisions.

This country needs more workers. Jobs that many Americans won't
do go wanting without immigrants.

Trump doesn't really want to build an actual wall. If he did
it would be in work now. The democrats offers up to 26 billion
dollars for his wall if he would sign a bill to give the Dreamers
a path to become U.S. citizens, but he turned it down.

It appears the shutdown will last into the new year. President Trump
continues to listen to the far right.  He has lowered his demand from
5 billion to 2.5, but why hasn't he spent the money he already has?
Over a billion dollars for boarder security sitting growing mold.

President Trump said he would take responsibility for closing the  government
then changed his mind. As usuall the deal maker always wants to blame
someone else for his failures. Trump or the GOP never want to negotiate in
a public forum. Over the last two years the GOP and Trump have hidden in
closed rooms to make decisions on how they want to change taxes ore the
ACA (Obama Care). They should be having open bipartasan hearings so the
public can see what they are up to.  Instead they want to play games with
the peoples lives, only to benifit themselves.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 30, 2018, 11:53:46 am
The democrats take over the house in four days. They plan
to pass the same funding bill that the senate passed in 2018
that allows 1.3 billion for boarder security. If the senate or
Trump fails to pass it the GOP and Trump will be responsible
for keeping the government shut down.

The GOP leader of the senate says he won't have a vote on
anything the president won't sign. I wonder why he had all
those votes for bills when he knew Obama wouldn't sign?

It's not the business of congress to only pass bills the president
likes, or is willing to sign. Thats what his veto power is for. So
he can take responsibility for not signing bills, Not Congress.

President Trump has spent the holidays in the white house
pretending to care about those the shut down put out of work.
The GOP was preparing to pass a funding bill to keep the
government open, but Trump jumped on the phone and called
the house speaker telling him to not pass the bill. The speaker
said "Yes Master " and stopped the vote. Now Trump is trying
to say the democrats are at fault. It's time we take party politics
out of government. The people we  elect should be there to do a
good job for the country, not trying to  get re elected or pleaseing 
their party.

The democrats will offer to give Trump another 1.3 billion for boarder
security, but they shouldn't give him anything. Trump has only used
6% of the last 1.3 billion he got in 2018. At that rate he is good for
several years to come.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 31, 2018, 12:33:36 pm
Trump claimes he wants to talk, but all he wants is his way
or no way. I hope the democrats stand their ground. I
think most people want them to stand up for whats right
and not give into the GOP every time they are blamed 
for problems the GOP caused in the first place.

The GOP always does it's best to shift the blame to
others. They use talk radio and any other media outlet
who will let them con the public into believing their
way of thinking. They have done this ever since
the days of President Reagan.

It appears Trump has backed off his plan to pull troops
out of Syria right a way. Seems when he was in Iraq he
found out his plan would help give ISIS a way out and
would likely be back after the Turks ran the Curds out of
the area.

Well it's about 2019 and the president is sitting in the
white house tweeting and likely on the phone talking to
rich friends, and who knows who else around the world. He
should be on the phone with Mexico begging for money
to pay for his really big wall. It's kind of weird since there
is little support for the wall along the boarder states. Seems
most supporters are farther north. Could it be because they
won't have to look at it, or give up land for it?

It's time Trump quit worrying about what the far right thinks
and do his job. He should know those people will care little for
him after he is out of office. Ex presidents have no influence
on government, or congress. Especially if they are in jail as
Trump could be. 

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 01, 2019, 01:28:00 pm
President Trump is claiming success with North Korea, because
they aren't firing missiles or setting off bombs. Yes they continue
to increase their supply of nuclear fuel that can be used for bombs.
Also they are building new bases and moving their missiles around.

They still won't allow on site inspections to verify they are moving
away from war. Until they do there isn't any way to find the truth.
It's likely they are building more missels and bombs in underground
factories, no matter what Trump claims.

Still shutdown, and Trump wants to claim the democrats are at
fault. Trump says he won't support the bill his own senate passed
unanimously 2 weeks ago. I think it's more about what talk radio
wants than anyone else.  They use this to build up their audiences
to make more money. So if Trump listens to far right speakers
he may be missing what his supporters really want.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 02, 2019, 12:00:43 pm
President Trump claims he is out to protect the American family with                                                                                                                                                                         
his wall. I am afraid a man who tried to take health care away from
family's, and passed a tax cut designed to help billionaires doesn't look
like a man who is worried about the American family.

This business with a wall is nothing more than a rally cheering point he
found. He knows immigration is a sore point with the far right. His so called
far right friends have told him it was a good idea. It's unfortunate, but Trump
never had any real friends. I am sure the far right saw Trump as a man
desperate for fame and fortune who would  work for them when no one else
would.

How long will the public let talk radio and fox news run the country by
telling Trump what to do. I think if they would take Trumps cell phone and
his tv away he might become a passable president. Untill then Trump will
continue to be a money grubbing self centered president.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 03, 2019, 01:00:21 pm
Today the democrats take over the house. Only time will tell if
they are able to pass legislation with the GOP owning the senate
and the white house. They can however pass bills for infrastructure
and voting rights, along with changes to make democracy work
better inspite of the GOP. That way in 2020 they can point to the
GOP and say look what they were opposed to. I hope they are able
to hold the president accountable for his illegal acts and those of
his cronies over the next two years.

Yesterday president Trump had a meeting in the white house
with his cabinet. Several of which aren't official, but acting. As
usual his cabinet spent time kissing up to Trump. , a shameful
act, they should keep their oath to the country instead. Trump
spoke for 90 minutes with lies and bragging. Even to say he
would make a better general than those trained in the military.
This is a laugh as Trump likely couldn't lead a paintball war, 
and win. He even cheats at golf.

Trump never checks his facts, and makes untrue statements
about world history. He said the  Soviet Union went into Afghanistan
to fight terrorism. The facts are they went there to keep the
communist leadership in power. Eventually they gave up due to
public outcrys at home over the big loss of soldiers lives with no
end in sight.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 04, 2019, 12:02:14 pm
The new house of representatives passed bills to open the government
up last night. Yet the GOP leader of the senate is refusing to let the
senate vote on the very same bills they passed 2 weeks ago. Why?
Because the GOP doesn't want to put Trump in a position where he
would want to veto it.

Trump turned down 25 billion dollars for his wall because he didn't
want to help the Dreamers. A group of educated working young
people who were brought to the country with their parents. All
they want is a path to citizenship, but the far right is against
this. So their puppet Trump is too.

Trump continues to claim he is the smartest man in the world. Trying
to sell this very stupid claim to anyone who will believe it. This just
makes Trump look like an idiot to any thinking person, including foreign
leaders around the world.

The Trump shutdown started 2 weeks ago. The media is having a
field day covering it. Who will cave first is what they are trying to
find out. The democrats have a history of caving because they
usually care about the people affected where the GOP doesn't
really care, even though they say they do.

Will the GOP stand firm with 22 senators up for re election in
2 years? There are several in the house as well. I have a hunch
several of the GOP members are getting nervous, and the longer
the shutdown lasts the pressure will build.

It's time we put term limits on the senate and the house. Too many
politicians try to make a career out of being in government. I know it
would cost us a few good people, but I think we would benifit in
the long run. Lobbyists would have less time to control the votes
of members with a fat checkbook that way. I think 2 terms in the
senate and 4 in the house would be a reasonable lenght of time.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 04, 2019, 04:43:05 pm
BREAKING NEWS!

Trump just upped the ante on his border wall position. He's now considering using the "nuclear option" to get what he wants.  :o What this means is that he is considering calling the border situation a "National Emergency" as a means to circumvent Congressional approval to get funding for his border wall. And where exactly would this funding come from? Supposedly from the huge Pentagon military budget.
To the best of my knowledge, I can't remember there ever being a time when a President has declared illegal immigration a "National Emergency"? A national emergency would be something so drastic like an environmental catastrophe, an military invasion from another country, or some other huge and catastrophic event. Average ordinary people from Mexico, Honduras, etc. traveling north and illegaling crossing our southern border is NOT a national emergency. It might be if they were wearing camouflage fatiques and carrying guns and grenade launchers, but they're not. They're just ordinary fathers, mothers, children, grandparents, etc. trying to come to America for a better life. Granted, they're doing it the wrong way by crossing the border illegally, but that doesn't make them an "invasion force".
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/trump-border-wall-national-emergency-declaration/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 05, 2019, 12:06:29 pm
Yes Kobuk Trump is likely going to run into trouble trying to tell
the military to build a 3000 mile concrete wall 30 feet tall. Besides
congress would have to approve funding for such a endeavor. We
need better ports of entry, not big walls people will blow up. He
hasn't even mentioned who is going to maintain such a structure.

Even if Trump was able to start his wall, he would run
into land owners that would be very mad. Especially those
in Texas. They might like Trump in Texas, but not his wall.

One of the new members of congress had the nerve to call Trump
a name I can't repeat here. It was in reference to his wall. The conservative
media is making a big deal out of it. I wonder if a man had said it, would
it have gotten the same response. Or if it had been Trump instead of a
democrat woman. In his rally's Trump has used a lot of foul language, so
he didn't have any room to shame her like he did.
Several people in the white house are getting a $10,000.00 raise in
pay. This while 800,000 are going without pay due to the shutdown.
This just  pocket change to  those in Trumps cabinet. I did hear the
vice president turned it down. At least ill the shutdown is past. I bet
Trump is taking it. Gotta pay for those gold golf balls you know.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 06, 2019, 12:01:28 pm
The democrats will be debating Medicare for all. The GOP calls it
socialism, but in reality it's big business pulling the GOP's strings.
Big insurance and the pharmaceutical industry is making hundreds
of billions without regulations that would prevent price gouging by
them. The health care industry spends many tens of millions lobbing
congress to not regulate prices. For decades the health industry has
rasied prices at a rate twice or more thhan inflation would justify. 

Over the years most people have had good insurance coverage 
which came with their jobs. However co pays have been rising
that are causing some pain to people who didn't feel it in the past.
This may start putting pressure on congress to make changes that
will reduce costs to voters. CEO's of these big corporations get tens
of millions in bonuses while the average person has to scratch out
a living. It's time the richest Americans paid their share.

It's interesting that President Trumps incorrect remarks about the
Soviets invasion of Afghanistan matches Putin's line for his revision
of Soviet history. It appears Trump is sucking up to Russia's Putin
again. How many times will the GOP over look Trumps kissing up to
Putin? Who can say how often Trump talks to Russia leaders. Its a
fact Trump has wanted to expand his businesses into Russia for
several years. Hopefully with the democrats holding the house there
will be investigations on this. I imagine the special counsel has.

Every time Trump starts to make a good decision the far right is
opposed to, Trump flips. It's obvious that the far right media has
Trump on a short leash. Unless congress stands up for what is
 right the far right will continue to run the government.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 07, 2019, 12:45:34 pm
People running for president in 2020 will have to deal with a
constant stream of lies from Trump. They should use Trumps 
own words against him. Not trying to be like him. He will do
his best to keep the spotlight on himself, just as he did in 2016.
The last thing he wants his the news media talking about his
opponents instead of him.

If the shutdown continues much longer many people will not
have the money to pay  bills or even to buy groceries. I think
Trump is privately hoping the democrats will cave when the media
shows people and their families going without the necessities of
life. Trump clearly doesn't care if people suffer or even die, as long
as he gets his way.

President Trump had the gall to say he understood what it is like
to not get paid. A man who never went without anything in  his
life. I think the only job he ever had before being president, was
when he was on the show "Apprentice" where he pretended to
be an expert businessman. Sure he is the owner of a business 
empire, but that's nothing like working as an employee who
depends on a paycheck.

Trump continues to say he might declare a national emergency
to have the military build a wall. If he does he will have to prove
there is an emergency in court. Not just say one exists with
his lies. If he was to get a judge to approve it, that would be just
the beginning. There would be court fights all along the border from
land owners not wanting to look at a big wall, or give up land for it.

It's interesting to note the GOP have a history of being against eminent
domain taking land for public use. This encludes Trump so why isn't
the GOP complaining about Trumps plan to use it? With all that done
it would take 40 billion and many years to build. I doubt if Trump
lives long enough to see a hundred miles built. At best it would take a
year to build 5 miles of his big wall.  Thats if they don't find too
many sinkholes. Even if they were building several segments at once
the concrete required would take train loads of cement to build. Not
counting the hundreds if not thousands of miles of raods to 
transport it.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 09, 2019, 12:27:03 pm
President Trump spoke to the nation last night, but
it was more of a speech to his voting base than the
American people. It was filled with misleading lies
and fear tactics trying to say immigrants are mostly
criminals, killers, and rapists. Yet American citizens
are more likely to break the laws of our country. Over
the past 2 years hundreds of Americans have been
shot and killed by American citizens.

The speech was more of a campaign speech than a
warning to the nation. To me Trump looked like a
squinty old man trying to scare us into supporting
him. Not the man of strength he claims to be.

It's very likely he is afraid the members of the
GOP in congress may  not continue to support
him. Already GOP members in the senate and
house are wanting to open the government in
spite of Trump.

Will Trump declare a national emergency? If he
does we will see a big court fight all the way to
the supreme court. Which may take months. In the
meantime will the government stay closed? Trump
wants money for boarder security, but he only used
6% of the money allocated in 2018 for boarder
security.

Trump is calling his wall a barrier now. This wall
has been exposed as a fraud. Just a campaign prop 
to keep his rally's cheering. Trump admitted this in
a press interview early in his campaign.

Trump claimed his wall would stop drugs and terrorist. but
95% come through ports of entry, and few if any terrorists
come in through Mexico. Most come by air or sea. Illegal
immigrants come in from Canada by overstaying visas.

Since the year 2000 immigration via the southern boarder
with Mexico has dropped by 45,000 a year. Also since
then most people coming are escaping dangers to life
and  limb. Not so much like they used to where many
sneaked across the boarder to get temporary jobs.                                                 

If Trump or the GOP really wanted to stop illegal immigration
they would only need to stop businesses in the country from
hiring them. But the GOP isn't interested in doing this. Turns
out Trump has many undocumented aliens working in his
resorts.  So this might be one reason he wouldn't want to
do this. Undocumented aliens are in big demand since
they work cheap with few if any benefits.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 10, 2019, 11:40:18 am
President Trump hired 17 new lawyers to help defend
him against the special counsels report. He wants
to use executive  privilege to keep the democrats
from investigating him and his staffs activities. If
Trump is so innocent why all this secracy? Only time
will tell.

During a meeting today with democrats Trump asked
if he could get funding for a wall. They said no, and
Trump left having a childish temper tantrum. He didn't
want to have any discussion unless he could get his wall.
So the shutdown continues with Trumps blessing.

President Trump claims federal workers are supporting
his shutdown. Well I really don't think many workers
are going to bad mouth a man who can fire them.

More GOP congressmen are wanting to open the
government even though Trump trys to deny it.
At some point Trump will loose his control over
these members. Trump even went to the senate
begging them to stay with him, but it didn't help.

I think even the leader of the senate will cave
once a number of GOP senators ask him to have a
vote. He knows this shutdown will hurt the GOP
especially if the democrats stand their ground.

The democrats are passing bills each day that
would open the government. Yesterday they
passed a bill that would open the IRS so people
can get their tax refunds. So it's up to the senate
and Trump to make these bills law.

If Trump does declare a national emeregency so
the military can build the wall. It will take money
from other projects the military needs to
protect our soldiers in other countries.

Trump is pointing to a metal slat wall, but a
battery operatesaw would cut through that
will little difficulty. He even tried to say the
democrats wanted the steel wall which is
a lie.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 11, 2019, 12:00:59 pm
The treasurer was called to congress, and asked to
explain why a Russia oligarch should have sanctions
removed from him. Apparently he dodged several
questions saying they would have to ask the white
house. Looks suspicious as it would help one of
Trumps friends.

President Trump is saying he is looking for a
replacement Judge for the supreme court judge
who had surgery last month. Well this is premature
as her condition shows no reason for her to resign.
I am sure the GOP and Trump would love to replace
 her since she is a liberal. I am sure they would
like all 9 judges to be far right conservatives.

President Trump apppears to want a metal wall
now. It has been shown to be easily penetrated
so what good would it be except to stop migrating
animals.

It seems to me there will be a lot of holes cut in
a metal wall. So who will be patching them? Sounds
like a mess to me. Heck people leading people across
the border may put trap doors in the fence.

I understand any fence or barrier will be set back
fomr the Mexican border creating a so called
no mans zone. This being the case immigrants
seeking protection, could stand on U.S. Soil
without crossing the barrier.

Even if Trump gets a metal fence it may take a
year before much of it is installed. This after
Yet Trump claimes the agreement for his wall will
fix everything in less than an hour. It's hard
for me to understand why people support a con
artist like Trump. He is always making dumb
statements like this. He takes for granted his
supporters will believe anything he says.

Trump has found a new low, he wants to use
disaster relief funds to help pay for his wall.
Funds meant to help pay for fire losses in
California, hurricane losses in Texas, the gulf
coast, and Puerto Rico. Somehow I doubt if GOP
supporters in Texas, and the gulf coast
will praise Trump for this.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 12, 2019, 11:52:37 am
How much  pain will Trumps supporters endure
before they demand the GOP senate work
with the democrats to open the government
inspite of Trump? Many of his supporters are
starting to say this is a bad deal, and Trump
should open the government.

How long will it be before there is a serious
accident happens due to a lack of workers
doing critical jobs? People need money to
live. So some are looking for another job.

It appears president Trump is under an
counter intelligence investigation by the
FBI. It was started when Trump fired the
head of the FBI. Not for a coverup, but as
part of an conspearacy with Russia to win
the election in 2016.

It's likely Trump will claim it's the deep
state out to  get him, but it's very unlikely
the FBI would start such an investigation
without reasonable cause. Especially against
a sitting president.

The GOP could save Trump from himself by
passing funding for the government over his
veto. That way he could say he did his best
and blaim congress for his failure.

GOP Congressman Steve Kinng calls himself
a nationalist, but he talks like a white
nationalist. His biggontry shows him up
as a racists who thinks only white christians
should live in the United States. It's likely
many of Trumps supporters feel the same
way.

Will the GOP censure him, or will they continue 
to ignore his discussing statements about non
white Americans? People who may or may not
be of the christian faith? It's time people understand
the consitution of the United States isn't a religous
document.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 13, 2019, 12:03:46 pm
The shutdown is over 3 weeks now with many government
workers suffering while Trump claims they are fine with it.
This shows a lack of empathy and how short sighted Trump
is. Holding almost a  million workers hostage trying to get
money for a wall few if any experts agree we need is a
cruel abuse of power by Trump. The GOP would have
gone nuts over this if a democrat president had done
this. They just kiss up to Trump no matter what he does.

It's past time to impeach Trump. If the GOP controlled
senate fails to remove him, they will likely pay dearly
in 2020.

President Trump says we should be friends with Russia. Fine,
but they don't want to be friends with us. They attack us at
every turn. Not with missiles, but with attacks on our way
of government, on our way of life.  The leader of Russia is
a crook, the leader of a criminal mob in Russia.

The Russian mafia has a history of going after anyone who
is very rich in this country. They offer protection for a price
and if you don't pay you will suffer for it. I think this is how
Trump got involved with Russia to begin with. Trump has
admitted he had to deal with the mob to get work done.
He never said which mob though.

Trump seems to think he is very smart, but Russia's Putin is
much smarter. So Trump may be a dupe, thinking he is making
great deals with Russia, but Trump will only get what Putin wants
to give him.

Trump may not think of himself as a puppet of Putin, but many
people who are dealing with Russia have been tricked into helping
the Russian state.  We need to remove Trump because he isn't
smart enough to know how dumb he really is. Anyone like this is a
danger to themselves, and as the president he is a danger to us all.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 14, 2019, 11:51:02 am
The shutdown is affecting HUD supported homes for the elderly
as well. Many of which could find themselves homeless soon if
the GOP continues to sit on his hands. Some might say let's give
Trump what he wants for the benefit of the people. Trouble
with that is Trump will use a shutdown for anything he can't get
otherwise if we do.

Trump claims his wall is for national security, yet his shutdown
is hurting national security much more than the lack of his wall
ever could.

President Trump, a man who lies almost everytime he opens his
mouth continues to claim he isn't involved with Russia. A man
who has tried to get permission to build a Trump Hotel in Moscow
for years. Not counting real estate deals elsewhere in Russia, and
areas under Russian control.

Trump claims he has been very tough on Russia. More than other
presidents. Yet he has done his best to remove sanctions from
Russia. He was forced to apply even more sanctions on Russia
by a veto proof vote by the senate and the house. This was when
the GOP controlled both houses. Trump always uses the excuse we
need to be friends with Russia. It's Trump who wants to be friends
with Russia. It's not for the good of the United States, but for
the good of Trump Inc..

All Trump s ee's is gold for himself. A money grubbing con artist,
Trump continues to  drag the country down to  his level.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 15, 2019, 01:36:16 pm
The nomination of Barr to the post of attorney general  spoke to
the senate today. It was obvious he supported the president to
build a wall with Mexico. It makes one wonder what else he agreed
to support Trump on. He also wouldn't agree to recuse himself
from the special counsels investigation.

GOP senators in the hearing basically just patted him on the back.
In thata their questions or statements were to support his opinions,
and beliefs not to question them. The democrats did question
them, but in several cases he dogdged by saying It depends on
this or that. Also by agreeing or disgreeing  instead of saying yes
or no.

He will likely be made atterney general because the GOP has
control of the senate, but he will likely do more harm than
good for the rule of law in the country with Trump as
president.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 16, 2019, 12:00:41 pm
President Trump has been breaking the law by destroying  government
documents. Many times his staff have been going through his trash to
trepair ripped documents. This is obviously a habit he had when
he ran his businesses. He seems to think the government should
be run like a business and hides everything he does. This encludes
his meetings with leaders of other countries. Just as he would in his
business offices.  This makes it hard if not impossible for his staff
to help him with government policies.

President Trump has been informed he should have his state of
the union address from the oval office. With the shutdown she
can't guarantee his security. Much less all the congress
(Senate and House), Supreme court judges, the cabinet,
and many Vip's. The media is suggesting it's a political
ploy. Perhaps it is, but Trump has been playing politics
ever since he took office.

This will likely make Trump pout, because he likes
nothing better than to show off in front of the nation.
Just think of all that applause he would miss. Tsk Tsk.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 17, 2019, 12:53:46 pm
I often wonder if those who support Trump will even want to
believe the special counsels report. Trump and his cronies , not
counting the GOP have been denying any connection between
Russia and Trump for the past 2 years. Even though some of
the people who worked in his campaign have ben indicted for
doing so. Trump has a history of not allowing decisions to be made
without his approval. So it's likely Trump was behind them all.

I have heard some say Trump is a gift from god. So I doubt if
they would even care if it was proven that Trump is in Putins
pocket. This religious connection is dangerous to our way of life.
Because many civil wars have been faught over religious beliefs.

Some want to belive foreigners are taking our jobs, but I wonder
how many actually know of one? Do they report them to ICE?
It's likely based on hearsay instead. It's well known people will
make claims even when they have no proof. This mixed with
a famous man like Trump who has no morals, who makes the same
claims with his lies. They grow and grow.

People should remember this country is one of immigrants, not one
of ancient history. The Indian tribes are the only ones who can
this land as their own. Where the rest of us are invaders. So
we should welcome all who wish to make a better life for
themselves as we do. No matter the color of skin or life style
as long as they obey our laws.
 
Trump continues to claim the democrats have been taken over
by the far left. Well with the GOP so far to the right, even moderates
look like left leaning socialists. It's time we put term limits on
politicians. When people make a career out of being in congress
they may start think they are gods fit to the country. I thin a 3 term
limit in the house and a 2 term limit in the senate would make
it harder for lobbyists to buy them. Also they should not be able to
use their own money to run for office. Allowing this puts people at a
disadvantage when running against a rich man or woman.
The shutdown continues. Trying to please his voters, Trump
is forcing many government workers to continue doing
their jobs even without pay. Some are having to choose
between buying gas for their cars to go to work without
pay, or food for their famly. I imagine many will call
in sick. There is talk of strikes by some. Forcing people
to work without pay is nothing but slavery. So I think
Trump is just digging a deeper hole for himself.

The GOP senate voted to remove sanctions on a Russian
oligarch The same GOP senators voted almost to a man in 2017 to
to place the same sanctions on this Russian oligarh. This oligarh
spent millions in lobbying to get Trump to have them removed.
In december he did remove them, but the senate had to agree.
The GOP members in the senat voted to allow it. So do we
have patriots in the senate or do we have people who have
sold out the country for money, and Trump?

The GOP puts party over country by following Trump. A man
who may very well be a puppet of Putin, the leader of
Russia. I think we can be sure the democrats are not
followers of Putin as the GOP appears to be by following
Trump. The GOP used to be anti Russian, but not any
more.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 18, 2019, 11:56:16 am
The vice presidents wife took a job with a religious school that doesn't
allow gays. Some are saying his wife should not have taken the job.
Being the wife of the VP she probably shouldn't have. After all those in the
government should respect the spirit of the constitution. Which says
the government will show no favor to any one religion or it's beliefs.

President Trump showed more of his childish pettiness by preventing
the military from flying the speaker and other congress men to
Afghanistan and Brussels where she planned to speak. He apparnetly
did this because of her not letting him make his state of the union
speech inthe house of congress. Trump claimed the trip was just a PR trip.
GOP members of congress were allowed to use a military plane few weeks
before with no questions asked. Trump even released the speakers secret
travel plans. Just more dirty tricks by Trump.

There is a report that Trump told a lawyer of his to lie to congress.
If true it is more proof that Trump is trying to cover up illegal
activities he has done. Even to tell someone to lie to congress
is a crime.

The longer this shutdown continues government workers will
reach a point where they are unable to even manage to afford
the cost of traveling to their jobs. Even if Trump threatens
them. Trump has a history of not paying people for their work,
so perhaps this is why he doesn't care now. Trump never has
needed a paycheck, so he can't reallyu undersant what
it's like to do without.

If Trump wasn't president, it's likely he would be going to prison
for not reporting moneys spent for the benefit of his campaign. This
is  just one of many things Trump may be guilty of. Yet the GOP
continues to protect him. They seem to think the Republican party
is so important that they will do anything, even to let people
get by with breaking laws. Not you or me, but the super rich, people
who use their money to take advantage of anyone they want.

It's the super rich who sentd our young people to war. They fear any
country or people who might affect their ability to become even richer. 

These people want to run the country and decide what laws are created.   
So they can make money without compitition. They wish to set prices for
products by some arbitrary value that has little to do with it's cost to
produce. Remember the 750 dollar pill a hedge funder decided to charge
for a 20 dollar pill? This is just one of many ways the rich use their ill gotten
money to increase their wealth at the expense of others. This is no different
than someone charging 20 dollars to a person needing a drink of water in
the desert, even though it's cost was 20 cents. People will have to make
politicians suffer before they will put an end to this kind of abuse by
the super rich. Even then the super rich will try to deceive the public
to keep their control.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 19, 2019, 12:04:05 pm
The special counsel commented that the report about Trump directing
this lawyer to lie to congress isn't accurate. It seems to me if there isn't
any evidence to show Trump did this they should have just said so.
Instead they just said enough to discredit the report, not to deny it.
Trump as usual denies any report of wrong doing, and oddly thanked the special counsel for what they said.

Trump is wanting to pull the United States out of NATO. A European
alliance that has kept the world at peach for 70 years. Yes there have
been wars, but no world wars which we had 2 prior to NATO. After
 the 911 attack on the U.S. NATO nations fought to help us.

Trump, like Putin and other autocratic leaders believe a strong man
government is be best way to run countries. It's true those kind of
governments are more efficient, but they are oppressive with few
if any rights for the individual.

This nationalistic idea of Trump will put us all at risk. Once we are
out of NATO Russia will have little reason to not invade the Baltic's,
Poland, and others. Putin wants to restore the power of the Soviet
Union. He will try to do it politically first, but like Ukraine he will
use military force if needed. Russia's history suffered from invasion
by other powers. Due to this Russia wants a buffer zone of countries
they control that surround Russia.

Some say we shouldn't worry about countries on the
other side of the world. This is a short sided idea
that ignores the fact that countries run by autocrats
are never satisfied and wish to spread their influence
to other countries. They have to be shown like
all bullies there are limits to what they are
allowed to do. Otherwise they waill be at our
doorstep in the future. Also a stable world is
good for the economy.

President Trump claims he is worried about national security yet
this shutdown he is responsible for is putting many Americans at
risk. Even the national security he claims he want to protect.
The following is a list of some parts of government who are
having to do wihout money.

Money for the courts
Money for the FBI
Money for airport security.
Money for the National guard.
Money for parks.
Money for the secret service.
Money for the IRS.
and many others.



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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 20, 2019, 12:01:42 pm
It's my wall or nothing, no matter how Trump dresses it up.
The Democrats probably should make a countter offer to
bounce the ball back where it belongs.

President Trump made a speach yesterday trying to claim he
is willing to compromise. There was no compromise, this deal
was him making demands, he, his son n law, and the VP
set it up in a room somewhere. Trump doesn't want to talk to
the democrats unless they are ready to bow and lick his
boots. Just as he expects the GOP to do.

Each time the democrats have met with Trump he asks one
question. Will you give me a wall? When they say  no he
stomps out of the room with no offer to compromise.

His offer to help DOCA, and other imigrants with temporary
protection is something he took away, and now wants to use 
it as a carrot. It's all about his wall, now a wall people can cut
through in minutes with a battery operated saw.

Trump is betting the democrats will cave, because they are
suckers for sob stories and the needs of government workers.
People who mean little or nothing to  him unless they do his
bidding.

This boils down to Trump trying to use the news media to
change public's opinion  which is turning against him, and
kick the proverbial ball to the Democrats. Democrats will
be asked many times if they will accept Trumps fake
compromise.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 21, 2019, 12:02:11 pm
President Trump and the VP stopped by the Martin Luther King
Memorial long enough to place a reef, then away they went with
not a word of praise.. I am sure Trump only went because he
wanted to be able to say he paid his respects to this great
American.  A  man we all should give respect to.

If I was a victim of the shutdown, I would likely be for ending it.
Perhaps at any cost, but it would be a mistake, because if Trump
wins this he will play this game to get anything he wants. And to
him it is a game.

His promise to protect the dreamers and others is only temporary and
not the fix it should be. If Trump was serious he would have offered
a permanent fix. Then the Democrats would have had something to
hang their hat on. As is it's just smoke and mirrors. A cruel ploy  by
a immoral  uncaring president.

The Democrats need to stand firm, caving in will only hurt us all.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 22, 2019, 01:04:10 pm
President Trump is planning a meeting with the North
Korean leader next month. One can only wonder what
Trumps love fest wiht him will brain about. If Trump pulls
the troops out of south Korea we won't be able to put them
back without the threat of war.

Then North Korea will try to use threats to begin control
of south korea. Trump claims North Koreea is obeying the
agreement he made with them, but they continue to
build bombs and missiles.

President Trump claims he will make his state of the union
address on the 29th, but the speaker cays he can't have it
int eh house till he opens the  government back up. So
where it will be is up in the air so to  speak.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 23, 2019, 12:26:30 pm
The senate is working to vote on 2 bills that could
open the government. It's likely Trump will veto any
that doesn't include his wall. Then it's up to those in
the senate and the house to override his veto. 

The GOP controlled senat has been dragging it's feet
for the last month. Mainly due to the majority leader
of the senate refusing to oppose Trump. More proof
the GOP cares more for the rich than the average
American.

Over 20 people are running for the nomination to
run for the office of president in the democrat party.
Perhaps many more before the primaries start in 2020.
Obviously only one will end up with the nomination, but
in the process many good ideas will be put out for  voters
to discuss and decide who to select.

It's likely Trump will follow the process watching to see
who he will have to run against. I imagine he will be
having rallies where he can bad mouth all of the
candidates. At least those moving to the front. He may
even encourage any who he feels he can beat.

It appears president Trumps pr lawyers claims he was
working to get his Moscow hotel built all the way up to
the 2016 election, sent Trump into an apoplectic rage.
After all Trump had told his voters he had nothing to do
business wise in Russia. Trump seems to forget lies lead
to trouble eventually.

Somehow I think people working in the white house cringe
in fear each time they hear Trump go into one of his screaming
fits. I imagine everyone but family makes them selves scarce
when it happens.

The business with the confrontation in washington by these
young people should show us all, that it best to walk away
rather than being afraid of letting others win. Many times
people don't stop and think instead of wanting to win the
fight. This is part of growing up or being an adult. Unfortunately
some never make it.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 24, 2019, 12:30:42 pm
The senate has subpoena Trumps old lawyer Cohen to speak
at a hearing. I am a bit suspicious of the GOP in this light.
Would they be trying to help Trump or find the truth? The
house really should call him for a hearing as well. According
to Cohen Trump has been threatening his family if he talks
to congress. Trump and his PR lawyer may well be guilty of
witness tampering. Good for a 20 year prison term if
convicted.

There isn't much going on other than talk about the shutdown.
The presidents daughter was on tv saying people  should accept
a "LITTLE PAIN" to get a wall with Mexico. I paraphrased it a bit,
bu I think loosing ones home or not having food for a family
is much more than a little pain.

Those of us who know a bit of history will remember Marie Antoinette
of France said "Let them eat cake" when asked about the poor. I am
not saying Trumps daughter should meet the same fate, but she
showed the same disconnect with the masses as Marie did.

This is the reason the super rich should never have political power,
because most of them have little or no personal idea what it's like
to go without food, much less housing. They want to blame
everyone but them selves. One billionaire said they should
take out a loan against their back pay. Well not all people
have the credit to do it. Besides interest on such loans could
amount to hundreds of dollars if not thousands.

The spkeaker of the house gave Trump some pain by telling him
he was going to have to end the shut down if he wanted to speak
in the House of Representatives.

While it is true people should put at least 6 months worth of living
expenses away for an emergency. Many people do not have enough
income to manage it. Espcially with the high cost of living today.
I think this should be taught in schools along with other personal
economics.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 25, 2019, 12:02:19 pm
Another one of Trumps campaign workers has been indicted.
Mainly over lieing to congress about his connection with the
Wikileaks release of hacked DNC emails. Apparently there is
evidence he was directed by a high level person in the campaign
to work with Wikileaks. Could it be that Trump directed him to
do it? Only time will tell.

President Trumps shutdown of the government is likely causing
a 41 minute slowdown in air traffic over New York, and other
parts of the country. Apparently due to government workers
calling in sick.  How long will it be before this becomes a domino
effect that spreads across the nation? Any delays over a major
airport will affect the system as a whole. It's not only passenger
traffic that would be affected, but a lot of air freight travels
across the country to keep businesses running.


This will start to affect the economy if the shutdown continues.
It's likely there will be zero growth for the first quarter as is. If
the public confidence is affected there will be a slow down
in sales.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 26, 2019, 12:06:28 pm
How long will it take before Trumps supporters realized
they elected a mob boss for president? Perhaps they don't
care if Russia tells Trump what to do, as long as Trump
claims he is good for the country. Trouble is even if they
don't want to believe he is a law breaker, it will catch
up with him as it has for many of those who helped
him get elected.

President Trump apparently realized yesterday he had to
end his shutdown. Just one hour after the airports in New
York started to close Trump called an end to his shutdown.
We can only wonder who called Trump to let him know
either end the shutdown or be impeached. I imagine it
was from someone who he couldn't say no to. Not the
leaders of the GOP, but a group of billionaires seeing their
profits falling fast with the collapse of the airport services. 
Not counting problems with passenger services.

Trump claimed it was because he wanted to let government
workers go back to work and get paid. This is a lie because if
he cared about them he wouldn't have shut the government 
down to begin with. Think it was about his wall?  It was
him wanting to prove to his base he would work to get his
way at any cost. Now he will have to make excuses. He is
saying he will declare a national emergency if he can't get
the money for his wall. This won't work as Trumps term
of office will end before it works it's way through the courts. 
Not counting all the land lawsuits. I figure Trump will try
to claim victory even with total failure.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 27, 2019, 12:00:35 pm
Elizabeth Warren who is running for president is proposing a
wealth tax on the super rich. A 2% tax annually on people
who have 50+ million, and a 3% tax annually for those with
a billion dollars or more. This amount of tax would put no
burden on them, but I am sure they will be criying foul.
People with this kind of money should not mind giving back
to the country that made them so rich. This tax would
generate over two trillion dollars in 10 years.

The GOP and Trump ran on reducing the national debt, but
they lied as their tax cut is running it up even more. All
they want to do is cut taxes for the riches  of
Americans and blame Social programs for the debt.

President Trumps actions in Venezuela has more to do
with Cubans in Florida than the south American
country of Venezuela. They want Trump to stick his
nose into that countries business. The problems there
are terrible, but we need to be on the side of right
not the side of politics in our country.

Will Trumps shutdown that the far right orchestrated
may end up hurting the GOP and Trump. The far right
maybe  leading Trump by the nose, but Trump is nothing
more than a man wanting fame and fortunes with
no real policy for our country. The far right is getting
much of what they want, but getting it likely will cost
them dearly in the future. The 2020 election will likely
put the democrats in control of the White House, Senate
and the house because of Trumps personal desire to be
a autocrat.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 28, 2019, 12:01:16 pm
The number of canidates for president by democrats continue
to grow. On the GOP side there are rumors of some running
against Trump in the GOP primaries. Why? It's due to Trumps
poor national support. He may have strong party support, but
he can't win with party alone. So GOP leaders are afraid they
will loose the White House if Trump runs. There is a possible
wild card though, if a strong Indepenant runs for president
he/she could draw votes from either party. Even to allow
another win by Trump. There is a good chance the senate
will flip in 2020 so even if Trump wins there may be
enough support in a new senate to remove him from
office with impeachment.

President Trump wants us all to buy American products and
hire American workers. Yet our hypocrite in chief imports
foreign workers and hires illegal aliens for his resorts to save
money. That isn't all. He bought cheap steel and aluminum
for his buildings from China. He buys products for his hotels
from Europe claiming he can't find good products in the U.S.A.

With all this why do American workers continue to support a
man who feels he has to lie about almost everything he does?
Yes politicians lie, but never as much as Trump does. It's very
possible he is selling out our country to fatten his wallet. Trump
may turn South Korea over to  North Korea and China by pulling
our troops out. Most may not care, but one day I fear we will
with Trump never was president, including his supporters.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 29, 2019, 11:43:01 am
Lies lies and more lies. Trump and practically every one
connected to him lie constantly. One might understand a
lie that might keep them out of trouble, but they lie about
things that are generally harmless. I heard it said big
shots from New York have a habit of lieing. To say why
tell the truth when a lie will do. And most of Trumps
picks are from New York. Trump like many people seem
to think rich people are smart. Well if you look close you
will likely see a crook who has taken advantage of people
to gain their wealth. Something crooks think is smart.

The government will run out of money on February 15th
so unless congress can come up with something our big
mouth president will sign, he will likely let the government
shut down again. He then claims he will declare a national
emergency to work on his wall. Even if the courts stop him
he can claim to his voters that he did all he could.

The media seems to be centered on Roger Stone since his
indictment. He is due to be in court to adment to being
guilty or not. It's not likely he will plead guilty. The media
has been asking if Trump will pardon Stone, but only time
will tell as his association with Trump has been up and down
over the last several decades.

Our fake atterney general said the special counsel investigation
is close to  it's end. Well those tied to Trump has made this claim
for over a year now. Since our tv watching president follows the
news for his information, It's likely he and other Trump lackies
are only talking to Trump when on the news.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 30, 2019, 12:45:05 pm
President Trump continues to act the fool. Trying to say
he knows more about foreign affairs than his national
security people. He claims North Korea will get rid of it's
nuclear weapons, yet they are building more bombs and
missiles. He claims Iran is breaking it's anti nukes treaty,
but evidence shows they haven't. He claims ISIS has
been defeated, but in fact they have 1000's of fighters
in the middle east and elsewhere.

Trump doesn't want to believe the people who know the
facts. Even when they show him hard evidence. The trouble
with Trump is he isn't smart enough to know how dumb he is.


Here we go again. Another billionaire wanting to run for
president. The super rich have too much baggage to be
a good president. They are going to look out for them selves
first just as Trump has. The super rich arn't smarter than
most people. They are egotistical people who think they
know whats best for the country. The worst are self made
millionaires, they think anyone can do the same as they did.
In most cases they either had a lot of money to begin with
as Trump did, or they got lucky. Once you have a few million
dollars, all it takes a bit of luck and hard work to gain more
wealth. Money makes money. All you need is to be smart
enough to not blow all your money on a bad idea.

Trump went bankrupt 4 times. If it hadn't been for his
father bailing Trump out he would likely not have much
of anything.

It's time we either let people run for public office on tax
dollars or by simple donations. We should never let anyone
pay their own way into office. If they can't convince people
to help and or vote for them they don't need to be president.
The GOP doesn't want anyone but wealthy people in congress
because they know the average man or woman understands
the needs of the elderly and poor. Where the rich generally
doesn't care much about the poor and won't support social
programs that might end up raising their taxes.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 31, 2019, 01:21:44 pm
President Trump claims his wall is being built. If this is the case why
does he continue to fight for it? Trump talks alot, but he rarely
ever says anything of substance. He just rambles and repeats himself.

Will Trumps gut start a nuclear war? Trump is either very stupid
or he is following orders from a foreign country when he trys to
make our national and intelligent services look stupid.  Reports
show that China is beginning to work with Russia to oppose
the United States, and other democratic countries around the
world. They claim to help the people, but they are only out to
help themselves.

The sooner people realize Trump is only for himself the better
off we all will be. And the GOP has worked hard to make the rich
more wealthy over the past 40 years. While the middle class becomes
poorer and poorer.

GOP leaders are wanting the Coffee magnet to run for president
because they think it will ruin democrats hope to take the white
house in 2020.  The GOP feel they may loose the senate, but if
they can keep the White house they can stop the democrats from
undoing all the goodies Trump gave big business and the GOP.

The GOP and Trump are crying foul because the FBI grabbed
Roger Stone at the point of a gun. If the GOP thinks it was wrong
they should go ask the Judge who authorized the search warrent.
There had to be reasonable concern that the man would try to
destroy evidence if he was just told to appear on his own, or the
warren wouldn't been approved.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 01, 2019, 12:21:11 pm
Will politicians work to lower drug prices? Even though
the pharmaceutical industry makes billions selling  drugs
they always cry they need all that money to bring new
drugs to the market. If that was the case why is it that
people who run these companies are multi billionaires?
They spend tens of millions lobbying congress to stop
price controls and to extend patent protection to limit
or prevent competition. It will be a tought fight to lower
the price of medicine because the drug industry will
spend millions on misleading ads to convince the public
that needed drugs won't be created with lower drug
prices. Yet the same drugs in other countries sell for
much less.

Are we headed for another government shut down?
President Trump is making noises like he would if he
doesn't get the wall Mexico is supposed to pay for. 

President Trump has effectively shut down the Venezuelan
oil industry. This will put pressure on the illegal president
to step down. In the meantime this will cause even more
suffering by the poor dealing with incredibly high inflation.

Turns out there is a large number of Venezuelan refugees
living in Florida. So is Trump playing for Florida votes, or
does he really care about the people of Venezuela? Trump
doesn't have a history of caring about people so it's likely
he is after the votes. 

There is evidence Trump plans to send some 5000 troops to
the neighboring country of Columbia. Is this just a threat, or
does Trump plan to invade Venezuela? If he does we will likely
see fuel prices go up as Venezuela produces a large percentage
of world oil production. Also it could end up being another jungle
war like Viet Nam with Russia and China supporting the other side.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 02, 2019, 11:50:14 am
Trumps fake atterney general told him he wasn't the subject of
any investigation, so Trump tweets he has beaten the special
counsil. I didn't know Trump was in a race, or trying to win any
thing against the special counsil. All it's doing is looking for the
 truth about Trump and his friends actions. If Trump wants to
believe his AG,  he does so at his own peril. 

It is sad when people show a lack of respect for others because
of their race or life style. Even though the man who is governor
of Virginia claims he has changed since the photo showing his
racist feelings was made.  He should take the high road and
resign. Only this will show he really has changed.

It seems people who hold high office have a hard time resigning
even when it's for the good of the country. Even now the governor is
trying to say it's not me. Even after he admitted he was sorry he
did it.

Yes Trump should resign too, but if a democrat who has a history of
racist acts refuses to do so, it gives Trump or any other Republican 
good cause not to resign. All this does is continue to divide our
country, and gives others an excuse to do the same.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 03, 2019, 12:02:57 pm
President Trump is saying he will pull out of the short range
missile treaty with Russia because they are cheating. This is
dumb as Trump should be trying to stop Russia's cheating
with talks or sanctions, instead of possibly starting a new
arms race. The nuclear powers of the world already have 
enough bombs to  turn the world into a lifeless globe.
Another arms race just ads to the risk of nuclear war.

President Trump will have his state of the union speech this
tuesay next. We can be sure Trump will brag and lie about the
economy, and all the jobs he has created. His tax cut was for him
his family and rich friends, instead of the average American. Trump
is saying he will push for partasan unity in his address. It's doubtful
if he can keep from blaming the democrats for not giving him the
wall he wants. He will likely continue to claim the wall is being built,
but in fact all that is being done is the repair of existing fences and
barriers. He will likely continue to claim our southern border is being
used by drug dealers, rapists, and murderers that only a wall can
stop. In fact most drugs and those smuggling people across the
border is done at ports of entry, not via the walless border.

Many thousands of kids have been separated from immigrant
parents since president Trump took office. This shows the
heartless attitude of Trump. He turns his back on those
innocents who are powerless. People who support this
kind of activity should hang their heads in shame. Blaiming
the parents is just a dumb excuse by people who want to
look the other way. It makes me wonder how they can call
themselves religious. Virtually every religion condemns the
mistreatment of children.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 04, 2019, 12:47:47 pm
The Democrats across the country are asking the govenor of
Virginia to resign after it appears he was shown to have been
a racist in the past. The democratic party wants to  have clean
hands so they can point to the GOP as being racist. I think
African Americans are smart enough to know who is racist and
who isn't. So I hope the democrats don't over do it trying to
make them selves look good and not patronizing.

A report came out about what Trump does as president each
day. It turns out he does spend a lot of time in the oval office
when he is at the white house. Trouble is sitting watching tv
news, talking to friends on the phone, tweeting, or having
his cabinet and staff giving him praise, while he brags and
lies about how good a president he is, does little for the
country.

He continues to argue with security people on security
issues he needs to know. These people spend years
getting their facts straight while Trump acts like he
knows more than they do. Trump doesn't want to
read reports so they make videos to show him
daily briefs.

This doesn't count the time he spends screeming at the
news, and walls when he doesn't get his way. I understand
those in the white house make themselves scarce when
he is on one of his rants.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 05, 2019, 01:33:42 pm
President Trumps inauguration fund was 107 million in donations.
One was almost a million dollars. The federal prosecutor of New
York has filed a subpoena to see how and where the money was
spent, and who all donated it. Possible charges of lieing and others
may come out of the investigation. This is separate from the special
counsels investigation.

Trump makes his third state of the union address tonight. He is
claiming he will try to bring the country together with this speech.
It's not likely as he has been running the  democrats down ever
since they regained the house of representatives.

Trump believes he can sell anyone anything if he can get in a
room with them alone. Trump never considers others being
smart enough to see through his con jobs. People like Trump
who think they are smarter than anyone  else is not only a
fool, they are dangerous to them selves and others. It's likely
running for president was the biggest mistake of his life.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 06, 2019, 12:03:09 pm
Trumps plan was to creat unity, but  he started out by not
letting the speaker give him the permission to speak. Which
was her right. She let this slide by, otherwise it would
have looked petty on her part.

I am sure Trump loves his applause, except when his statement
about how women have made gains. That got the biggest
applause and Trump knew it wasn't for him.

After 2 years in office Trump has change little if any at
all. His speech though had the words of union, but very
little substance. Turmp likes to talk, but he rarely ever
gives any details of how he plans to do the work.
Trump made the statement the onlything standing in the way
of prosparity is work and partasan investigaions. He should
have pointed to the GOP as they spent millions in tax dollars
going after H Clinton for political reasons. The investigation
of Trump and his campaign has indicted over 30 people for
wrong doing. Far from a political pursuit. The special
counsel was setup by the GOP after Trump fired the
director of the FBI. Supposedly to stop the Russian
investigation.

Trump claim he felt the pain of those who suffe in
our country. Yet he shut down the government which 
harrmed many people. His attack on Obama Care is
hurting many, and it's loss will mean the end of
affordable coverage for people with pre existing
medical issues.

He claimed he has cut costs for drugs, yet their
cost continue to climb. This was only one of his
many lies, exaggerations and fabrications.
Trump has not and never will pull this
country together as he only supports those
who support him, and the super rich.

He mentions how many more women are in
congress, but he failed to mention that the
increase was by democrats and not republicans.

He said our country will never accept socialism,
but he never mentioned how the poor, needy,
hungry, sick, and the elderly might survive in
such a country. I guess he like many in the
GOP want people to beg in the streets, or just
die. The GOP has wanted to  get rid of social
security and medicare, and other programs to
aid the disadvantaged for years. Anything to
cut taxes for the super rich, and big business.

Still pressing for his wall, he told several lies trying
support the idea. Saying El Paso was safer, when it's been
safe for many years prior to Trump.  This country was build
on immigration, and will begin to fail if we turn hard working
immigrants away. Job numbers look great, but when they
get below 4%, businesses have a hard time finding good
people for jobs.

Trump continues to send troops to our border with Mexico,
it's time we improve our ports of entry instead of building
a border army to protect us from women and children.

I wish there had been something good to say about Trump,
but he gives one little reason to do so. He is nothing but
a self centered con artist and liar.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 07, 2019, 11:56:26 am
President Trump is claiming harassment as the democrats start
several investigations of Trumps campaign and his connections to
foreign governments.  Includingif there were any pay for play loans
by foreign banks. Banks here in the U.S. won't loan him a dime,
so why would foreign  banks wish to loan him money?

Trump had a free ride when the GOP controled the house, but they
refused to do their job of presidentual oversight. Now Trump 
wants the democrats to give him the same free ride. I am sure
Trump will cry to his voter base that he is being treated unfairly
through the 2020 election and beyond.

Trump tries to say he can't be impeached because he has done so
much good for the country. This excuse only plays to his supporters.
Good works won't keep anyone out of jail if they break the law.
Besides the only good he can claim is helping big business make
more money for themselves. That of course is only good for them.
For the average american it does little good at all. Most of the
regulations he has removed hurt us all by allowing big business
to get by with dirtying our environment and allowing banks and
other lending institutions to take advantage of people.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 08, 2019, 12:01:17 pm
The democrats have many hearings in work that deal with oversight
because the GOP failed to do proper oversight during the prier two
years. It is sad when a party uses it's power to not hold officials of
government accountable for improper actions.

Today the judicial committee is having a hearing with  the acting
attorney general. Questions to  be asked about his communications
with the president, and the special counsel.

So far the acting AG is avoiding most questions. Seemingly very
nervous when asked a question that might affect the president. Not
to even wanting to answer a yes or no question. Makes one think
he has promised Trump he would protect him.

As expected GOP members of the hearing only asking questions that
don't affect the president or put the AG in a position to make  Trump
look bad.  One can see the AG relax when a GOP member is asking
the questions. Most of which have little relevance to the subject at
hand.

I think it's sad when people try to dodge simple questions of yes or
no. Of course the AG is in a box in that if he answers a question he
can't lie or make Trump mad.  So he just stalls. Also when the
opposing party tries to interfere with a honest investigation they
should be held accountable. At least the public can see these
actions by the GOP. These games of deception just hurt the
country when used to protect dishonest activities.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 09, 2019, 12:05:23 pm
President Trump is already making up nicknames for all the democrats
who are running for president. This is a old habit of his. I think it's time
we made one for him. "Fat Cat Trump" sounds pretty good to me.

Over the past 40 years the GOP has worked to reduce the middle
class because they were a threat to the richest Americans. Because
they were gaining too much power. Power that would put limits on
the super rich if allowed to grow.

The GOP plans to call the democrats far left radicals. People
who wish to move the country to socialism. I have news
for them. There is quite a bit of socialism in our country.
The 8 hour workday, overtime, and vacations were set up
by socialists. Social security, and Medicare both was started
by socialists. People the GOP wish to call radicals.


It seems very odd to me that the govenor, lieutenant govenor and the
attorney general of Virginia would be in trouble at virtually the
same time. I think they should sit tight untill a proper investigation is
done. The fact that the next in line is a republican makes
this even more suspicious. Okay you don't wish to blame the GOP,
but there are more than a few supporters of the GOP who would
like to see them take over the government of Virginia. People who
could care less about the concerns of black people or women.
Especially with the 2020 census coming up. The GOP would love
to  use this to gain another decade of advantage by gerrymandering
districts for the GOP.

People should always remember the GOP leadership feels only
they can keep this country together. Only they can make it so
they can have the American dream. The GOP leadership cares
little for the poor and the sick. To them they are a drag on their
plans to get rich. They don't believe government should do anything
but protect the rich by not regulating profits away from big business..
They consider the poor as leeches on society. This is why they are
against immigration. To them it's just more poor people with their
hand out. Businessmen across the country are happy to hire
undocumented aliens, because they will work for less pay and
no benefits. Even our so called  great President Trump has hired
undocumented aliens for many years. At least until he was found
out. Then he tossed them out like so much garbage. Then deny's
knowing they were there.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 10, 2019, 12:00:45 pm
The 15th is approaching fast. Will the government shutdown again?
Trump says he won't sign anything that doesn't include his wall. They
are putting up fence wire that is dangerous to children and animals
along the border. Wire that could seriously injure someone who
accidentally walked into it.

Already border patrols are cutting roads and taking people to
court on eminent domain to take land for Trumps wall. It's
no wonder some are saying Trump is turning border states
toward the democrats.

Elisabeth Warren declared her candidacy for president yesterday.
Trump continues to call her names. She should quit trying to claim
an a Indian heritage as her dna shows no real connection to any tribe.

President Trump claims President Jackson as his model, but Jackson
was responsible for the trail of tears. Hundreds of thousands of Indians
died while being marched to reservations in Oklahoma. A landfew if
any people wanted at the time. Something Trump should NOT use as
a joke.

Trump continues to use the city of El Paso as an example of why
his wall will stop crime and drug traffic in our country. He claims
the barrier along the boarder near El Passo put a stop to crime by
illegal immigrants. This is a lie as El Paso was  very safe city before
any wall or barrier was built. In fact during the time they were
building the barrier crime increased for a while. Trumps wall
may be what costs him the election in 2020.

The tax cut that the GOP and Trump want to brag about is costing some
an extra $4000.00 in extra tax for 2018. Many are having to  come up with
extra money instead of geting a refund. So many will have ot have more
taken from their paycheck this year. I heard some say they would never
vote for Trump again.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 11, 2019, 12:38:09 pm
Billionaires are greedy money grubbers. If they weren't they wouldn't
bne billionaires. The worst part is that they think they  know what
is best for the country. They may know how to make money under
our current system, but they want to make it better for themselves,
not so much for the rest of us. This is why billionaires and most
rich people are bad for the country when they are allowed to make
laws and regulations.

President Trump is a prime example of  why this is true. He has
spent the last two years working for himself, his big business
supporters, and to heck with the rest of us poor slobs. It's sad
but Trump is playing on human nature to get his way. It's the
way crooked salesmen, and con artists take advantage of
others. They and Trump care nothing for anyone but
themselves.  The way people follow Trump reminds
me of a Cult following. Such things rarely end up
well for anyone, since Cult leaders are crooks working
for themselves.

The bad thing about Cults is once people get caught up
in them they find it very hard to get out. The followers
only want to believe the Cult leader and no one else. I
really think Trump is using the Cult playbook trying to
keep and control his voting base.

President Trump is going to El Paso today to have a political
rally. Reports are that Trump is going claim the wall they
have there is making their city safer. Even though the city
has a history of being one of the safest cities in Texas. Even
before they had any wall.  We can be sure Trump will have a
large number attending his rally. I imagine hundreds follow
Trump rally's around the country.  One can only wonder
how many people he has hired to start cheers and chants.
This is a trick of Trump ever since he started his campaign.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 12, 2019, 01:15:33 pm
A bipartasan agreement was made in congress for keeping
the government open. So now it's up to Trump if the government
stays open. It's hard to say if there is enough votes to over
ride a veto. So we will have to wait to see what Trump does.

Trump tried to claim his rally was bigger last night in El Paso
by claiming there was thousands who couldn't get into his
rally. The fact is the Truth rally was bigger than Trumps.

Trump claims his wall has been started even though there
isn't any evidence of it. Perhaps he is calling a fence a wall,
other than repairs to existing structures, little is being done.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 13, 2019, 12:37:16 pm
President Trump calling for the resignation of democrats if
they say something out of line is hypocrisy, as Trump has
spoken with disrespect about several groups or peoples. If
anyone should resign it's Trump, and his VP lackey who runs
down people for being homosexual, or transgenders.

Trump and the GOP are hoping someone from the far left
will get the nomination for president under the democrat
banner. They appear to think public greed, and racism will
win out over social needs and ideas. Perhaps it will in the
short term, but with drug and medical costs climbing and
insurance for medical coverage climbing ever higher even
the middle class are starting to feel it. As long as it's only
the poor the GOP can probably continue to hold power, but
not so much if the majority starts hurting.

A fair number of upper middle class people has some tax
shock this year. Trumps tax plan put a 10,000 dollar cap
on property tax deductions. So people who pay more than
that are seeing a big jump in their tax liability. People who
have property in states with high property taxes can go
over 30,000 dollars a year. So their taxable income would
go up 20,000 dollars or more in some cases. Something
they can thank the GOP and Trump for.

It appears Trump will sign the bipartisan bill to keep
the government open. Yet he said he was going to sign
the one in December  and didn't, which caused the
shutdown, so only time will tell, even though politicians
don't want another shutdown. GOP or Democrats.

It seems Trump is switching from building a wall to finishing
a wall. He appears to be planning to use money ment for
other programs to fund a wall over time. It will be interesting
to see who will be the loosers if he does this. You can be sure
it will be a program that doesn't hurt Trump or the GOP.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 14, 2019, 11:53:47 am
Democrats running for president need to talk about health
care. Costs are skyrocketing for insurance and medicine. To
the point that most people are feeling the strain. That and
drug cost should be their primary push.

The Green plan by Democrats to work with the rest of the
world to prevent global warming is popular as well. The
GOP paid by big industry is against it. Even though working
Green is the future for us all. Millions of new well paying
jobs will be created. If we sit back and let other countries
do it, we will be playing catch up for years.

The Democrats in the house of representatives passed a
bill out of committee to improve background checks for
purchases of guns. Something the GOP only wants to talk
about and nothing else. Even though there has been many
mass shootings by people who shouldn't even have a gun.
Good background shecks shows to be wanted by 70% of
Americans. Like most ideas, this won't prevent all shootings,
but it should prevent a number of them.

There are reports that there was talk of trying to remove
Trump soon after his election in 2017, due to the suspicion
he was a double agent for the Russians. The vice president
and others are denying any suggestion that this was even
considered by the cabinet or the VP. These denials can only
be taken with a grain of salt as almost everyone working
for Trump lies to protect him ork their job. As we know
Trump demands loyalty to him above all. Even if they
have to break their oath of office.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 15, 2019, 12:07:48 pm
President Trump is declaring a national emergency to
get an extra 8 billion from defense spending to use for
a wall with Mexico. This is a power grab by Trump and
will meet challenges in the courts. Also it's likely the
house will pass a resolution to stop it. If they do the
Senate will be required to vote on it. In that case the
GOP members will have to playu their hand, and let
Trump know where they stand.

President Trump stood making a speech outside the
white house talking about his accomplishments and why
he wants his wall with Mexico. He should be ashamed
how he uses people trying to prove his lies. Still claiming a
wall will stop drugs. Guess he hasn't heard of drones that
can carry over 150 pounds for miles to a pre programmed
location. Compared to the value of the drugs the drone
cost is little, and could be reused.

Trump talks about how he is building walls, yet all that is
being done is repairs and installing razor wire on the American
side of the border. I wonder why it's on our side of his fence if
it's to protect America? Though Trump will try to say a lot of
wall is being built, it will take years to even start. Some barriers
started by the Bush administration are just now being finished.

Trump brags about how the tariffs are hurting China and
other country's who were taking advantage of us. Ye he fails
to tell the truth that it's Americans who are paying the
extra cost, and China and other countries are going to other
countries for their goods. Also his tariffs and even his big
tax cut is causing businesses to leave the country, yet he
tries to say the opposite with his lies.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 16, 2019, 12:01:13 pm
When FDR took office in the 1930's businesses worked people
10/12 hours a day 6 days a week. No extra pay for overtime, or
for holidays. If you didn't work you didn't get paid. No minimum
wage either. Few if any gave benefits like vacations or health
insurance with the job. Only those businesses who were
unionized provided any extra benefits at all. Only those
in managment got good pay.

Guess who would like to return to those days where labor was
under the thumb of big business. Trump, the GOP and big
buisness. When these changes were made the GOP complained
it was socialism, and would destroy the economy. They
worked for years trying to undo these changes, and would
yet today if they thought they could get by with it.

Emperor Trump declared we have a national emergency at the
Mexican border. So now he will try to take money from the military
to build his wall. In spite of his lies he has not added to his wall.
the bill he signed lets him add a few miles of fencing, but not a wall.
Trump always claims he has better data than what the government
professionals provide, but he never tells who. It's always
anonymous people he claims has better data. I think most of
it is lies from the far right and his gut. His gut caused him to
go bankrupt 4 times, so we shouldn't go on that.

Trump says Mexico will pay for it, but tariffs and taxes on goods
from Mexico will come out of our pockets, Not Mexico. Why?
Because they just increase the cost of Mexican goods and
labor to us, not them. If we charge them more they will
just buy somewhere else.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 17, 2019, 11:56:28 am
It seems Trumps supporters love how he fights. They don't care if he
is right or wrong as long as he fights. Kind of like the bar fly who always
has an answer for everything. He is loved as long as he buys the beers.

We can only hope he doesn't wreck our country with his stupid ideas.
That's another problem. Trump has only one plan, and that is to win.
Not for the country, but for himself. So far most of his decisions were
made by others telling him what to do. Decidedly by the last person
he hears. So the GOP and far right make sure they get the last word.

President Trump is back in Florida playing cow pasture pool. Guess
he got tired of playing golf on a computer. Isn't it interesting how
Trump bad mouthed Obama for playing golf when Trump has spent
more time playing golf than any other president as president. Oh
well it's nothing  new for the hypocrite in chief. He and the GOP
politicians all.

King Trumps said he didn't really need to declare a national emergency
except he just wanted money for his wall sooner than later. So he will
have to depend on the conservative supreme court to back him up. A
court the GOP and Trump has worked to put two republican judges
who likely promised to be loyal to Trump and the GOP when he
selected them. Perhaps in the future their purely partisan decisions will
get them impeached.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 18, 2019, 12:16:01 pm
Trump is claiming he has been nominated for a Nobel Peace prize.
This may be true, but it's very doubtful that he would win. The Vice
president was talking to a audience of diplomats and after talking about
haow much good Trump had done there was no applause, total silence.
So with this international feeling toward Trump it's not likely he would
be considered for any world prize.

Trump tweeted he didn't hire the deputy atterney General. Trump
is having a memory lapse as he did hire him. Or it's just a blatent 
lie. He is over 8000 lies now.

It is totally leagle for government officials to talk about the 25th
amendment or any part of the constitution. It's neither treasonous
or illegal as Trump wants to claim. If anything Trump has been treasonous
and not the deputy AG. Why? Trump listens to Putin and others instead
of our CIA, which is much more credible. Putin and other country's don't
have our best interests in mind, and apparently Trump doesn't either. Or
he is totally incompetent, and should be removed from office in either
case.

Some religous people have it in their head Trump is GOD's gift to
our country because Trump is against abortion and homosexual's.
I guess they don't mind that he is a womanizer, and a racist. The
biggest problem I have with religious zealous is that they claim to
to do GOD's work.. Somehow I think we should lead others by
example and not with religous punishment.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 19, 2019, 01:11:14 pm
Trump and the GOP are and will continue to claim the democrats
are far left socialists. This is nothing but nonsense as most
democrats support free enterprise and capitalism. Though it
must be regulated, because it's the nature of man to be greedy
and many people will take advantage of others if the government
doesn't set limits on them. Just as it was necessary to make
monopoly laws in the late 1800's. The fact there are so many
billionaires today is a sign we need more laws to limit greed.

A billion dollars is a fantastic amount of money for any one person
to have. Only greed drives people to want more. Amazon, Apple,
Microsoft, to name a few, prove this with their desire to grow to
greater levels. They make the excuse they are doing this for the
good of the people. An excuse monopolies have claimed in the
past. The GOP defends free enterprise saying competition will keep
businesses from growing too large, and prices down, but it rarely
does as many large corporations gain a virtual monopoly and
start raising their prices higher and higher.  Then spend millions
lobbying congress to make it easier to increase their profits.

The court fights start with 16 states filing law suits against
Trumps decision to declare a national emergency to fund his
border wall with Mexico.  During his declaration Trump stated
he didn't really need to do this, except he wanted to get it done
sooner. 

I really don't think Trump wants to end his fight to get the
wall, because he turned down deal with congress that would
have funded his wall. I think he wants to keep it going to
help his chances to win re collection in 2020.

Trump is still wanting a space force for the military. Seems
to me this is nothing short of science fiction until we have
the technology to fly into and back from space with totally
reusable vehicles. At this time we just barely have the tech
to go to space. Not fly in space the way we do in the
atmosphere. We should leave it as it is, an arm of the air
force.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 20, 2019, 12:32:04 pm
"Feel the Burn." Senator Sanders joined the fray yesterday and
raised 6 million dollars already, with an average of 27 dollars a
donation. So he has strong grass roots support at this time.
It will take a few months to see if it holds with all the candidates
running for president. I like Sanders, but Trump will paint him as a
communist hoping to scare away his support. People should
remember no president can do much to start social programs
unless congress approves them.

With ISIS diminishing many of it's supporters are wishing the
world to forget and forgive. To let them return home as if nothing
happened. I don't have much sympathy for these people who
supported the killing of innocents and the destruction of other
country's around the world. If we don't punish them others
will feel free to join any violent group that appeals to their fancy.
It is sad, but using the idea I was brainwashed is a poor excuse
when news around the world showed what ISIS was, and still is,
ready to murder anyone who opposes them.

President Trump is still denying that he is a puppet of Russia. Still
I think it was good the FBI decided to start an investigation of
Trump, especially after all the suspicious activities between him
and Russia's Putin. A country which wishes to destroy democracy
around the world. Putin believes only strong man dictators should
run countries. He like Trump feel they shouldn't have to deal with
a congress to lead a country.

It appears the Trump administration is working to decriminalize
homosexuality around the world. This is interesting as Trump and
the VP have been supportive of criminalization of homosexuality
here in the United States. And supporet GOP canidates who wish to
do this. It's no secret that the VP has religious convictions that
oppose homosexuality much less the LGBTQ. It is good however
to see Trump appearing to care about peoples rights. We can only
hope it's not something political, like giving Iran a hard time.
One of 8 country's around the world that puts homosexuals to
death.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 21, 2019, 12:01:12 pm
The special counsels report on Trump and his Russian
involvement is reported to be close at hand. Only thing
is the new attorney  General Barr can edit it or cover up
anything that would make Trump look bad or even guilty
of a crime. Barr was nominated by Trump after he sent
the white house a memo implying the special counsel
is a waste of time. The GOP approved his nomination over
democrat concerns.

It's also possible Barr has called a stop to the special counsels
investigation, as several points of interest apparently haven't
been finished yet. It's also possible those investigations have
been moved to other federal prosecutors. Only time will tell.

If the AG tries to white wash this report, I think we all can
assume it is for political reasons. Barr has a record of being
protective of any president while in office. This is likely why
Trump nominated him. Then the GOP followed Trumps orders
to approve him.

Trumps claim the deep state is out to get him is ridiculous.
Any deep state would approve of the of anyone who is out
to protect the rich as Trump has. They want to keep America
for the rich, and the rest of us are just their lackeys.

It's the rich who fears socialism, and were very afraid of
communism. I have always felt the rich were responsible
for getting us involved in Korea, and Viet Nam. They feared
the spread of communism which if successful would have
stripped thme of their riches, and perhaps even to execute
them. Most super rich people feel any governmental social
program a waste of their money. They want private
charities to deal with the poor, if at all.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 22, 2019, 11:43:00 am
Over the past presidency the GOP complained loud and strong
each time Obama used his emergency powers. Now they seem
to have changed their minds. It's just more political hypocrisy
since they aren't interested in stopping Trumps fake emergency.

President Trumps labor secretary was accused of breaking
the law when he was a prosecutor in Florida. I wonder if
Trump will fire him or make excuses for him? Time will tell.

Isn't it interesting that after all the GOP claims of wanting
to prevent voter fraud, a republican has been accused of
ballot fraud in North Carolina. It's also rather odd that
the GOP has been rather quiet about it. Especially after
all the claims they want to stop election fraud. It seems
they are only interested in preventing fraud by their
opposition, not by their own party. A new election has
been called.

President Trump is headed for Viet Nam to have a chat
with the North Korean dictator this coming week. We can
only wonder what Trump will give away to get another
fake agreement with his lovable dictator. If Trump was to
offer a troop withdrawal, it would mean the eventual end
of South Korea. A long term dream of the North Korean
leadership, China, and Russia.

you can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 23, 2019, 12:03:17 pm
When Donald J. Trump ran for president he said he would
hire the best and smartest people. He didn't tell us they
would be billionaires, people Trump looks up to as the best
and the smartest people. Unfortunately many billionaires are
crooks. White collar crooks for the most part. Think about
it. If you had enough money to buy anything, you would
likly become bored spending money. You likely would turn
to using people. In truth billionaires enjoy making money
more than spending it. They want respect from other rich
people. They get it intheir head money will buy them any
thing, including other people. Lately two billionaires have
been accused of using young girls for sex. Instead of looking
for love they want to buy something that looks like it. No
matter who they hurt doing it.

These are the kind of people Trump looks up to, associates
with. So it's not surprising that his picks are involved
in  scandals. Trump wants to call them fine people. But if he
didn't have all his money or being president they would
treat him like a dog. So he wants to impress them.

Our elections are still under attack by Russia. Even though
the GOP knows this they are doing little or nothing to stop
it. They know this helped them in 2016 so why would they
want to stop that help in 2020.

The best way to avoid being misled by this attack is to use
your head. If you see a story that  doesn't fit someones profile
it's likely a lie. Check several sources instead of just believing
the lie. Russian's will pretend to be your best friend so watch
out for anyone trying to feed you information, especially if
you didn't ask for it. Remember the news media is generally
your friend in spite of what President Trump claims. The media
is only a danger to him and his cronies, not our country. Be
very suspicious of any news that supports Trump as the super
rich wants to keep him in office.

Russia is more interested in dividing us than electing Trump
or the GOP. So be on your guard when someone tells you
something bad about normally good people.

you can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 24, 2019, 12:28:16 pm
Trumps former fixer will be testifiing in congressional
hearings this week. It will be interesting to hear what he
has to say. It's likely the GOP members will try to paint
him as a lier. That would be odd trying to protect a lier
like Trump from another lier. At least the public can decide
for them selves by watching.

It appears we are going to have quite a crowd of people
running for president as democrats. Hopefully it won't
divide  people up so much they end up not voting in
2020. We need someone who can energize people
enough that they will want to vote, Many will vote to
get rid of Trump, but it would be better to have someone
the people really want.

It seems odd that if President Trump was so much in the
dark about his campaigns involvement with Russia, why
isn't he really mad at those who worked with Russia
behind his back. As is he is defending them, calling them
good people when the evidence points otherwise. One
could understand him defending family members, but
defending non family members makes him look guilty
by association.

Will the public demand the release of the special counsels
report about Trump? Or will they be satisfied with  a edited
version that makes Trump look innocent at the center of a
group of people that have been found guilty? Like a blind
man being led astray, and in that case would have no
business being president guilty or not.

you can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 25, 2019, 12:11:23 pm
President Trump setup a big party at his Florida resort for
his supporters. They had to pay $500.00 or more to get in.
Some paid up to $20,000 to sit with VIP's. I guess Trump
wanted to keep out any regular people that might show up.
He did provide a video reminding his guests about how
great he is. 

It's not likely the special counsels report will show up till
Trump returns from his visit with the north Korean leader.
Trump is having to wait while the north Korean leader travels
by armored train over 2000 miles through China to get to
Viet Nam. The train only goes 35 mph. I guess the north
Korean leader is afraid of train accidents as well as people
taking pot shots at him. Rather typical of dictators.

The democrats plan to pass a resolution to stop Trumps
emergency declaration over the border with Mexico. Strangely
enough more illegal aliens come in via Canada than Mexico.
Not counting Visa overstays. This resolution, even if it passes
in the senate, Trump says he will veto it. So it will likely end
up in the supreme court. With a conservative majority they
may allow it. Even though conservatives have a history of
being against presidents overriding congress.

you can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 27, 2019, 12:43:18 pm
The hearing to hear from Trumps fixer lawyer is being held 
as I write. The very first thing was the minority leader (GOP)
trying to stop the hearing that he knows will hurt President
Trump.

It is obvious the GOP is going to work hard to discredit this
man. It is true he lied, but according to him it was to protect
Trump. He wasn't directed explicitly, but was under a general
order to fix Trumps problems, and protect him.

The GOP claims the Democrats are avoiding the truth by calling
the witness a liar who couldn't be trusted, ignoring the evidence
he presented.

The GOP is even trying to upset the whittnss by asking questions
in a demeaning way, by implying he is a bad person who
should not be trusted in any way.

It's obvious the GOP is using every trick they know to convince
the viewing public this hearing is a fraud. They are finding it
hard to upset him even though they keep trying hard to do so.
This hearing was supposed to be about Trump, but the GOP wants
to make it about the witness, Trumps fixer lawyer, and not president
Trump.

I think they are doing this is to please Trump they know is
watching this hearing from Viet Nam. It is sad to see the
GOP protect Trump, a man who has been proven to be a
liar and con artist.

It's up to all of us to decide what this hearing tells us about
Trump, the GOP, and the Democrats. The GOP had 2 years to
have hearings when several people around Trump were being
indicted, yet they ignored their duty, and apparently are still
trying to cover up Trumps transgressions.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 28, 2019, 12:25:28 pm
President Trump did stand up to the North Korean leader in that
he didn't remove all sanctions for shutting down one base involving
nuclear weapons.  I give Trump a pat on the head for not agreeing
to such a ridiculous offer. Perhaps the north Korean leader felt
Trump wanted a win so bad he would agree to most any deal.

Perhaps Trump is learning that not everyone wants to run a rich
capitalistic country as he does. I imagine the north Korean leader
is afraid to turn his country over to the people. It's likely they would
either hang him or toss him in prison.

It's likely the north Korean leader is being coached by China and
perhaps by Russia as well. Both would like to have a part in talks
with north Korea and theUnited States.

The hearing with Trumps fixer got very contentious when the 
GOP wabted to prove Trump isn't a racist. They had a black person
stand up who worked for Trump. This kind of proof has ben used
in the past by people claiming they like blacks because they have
a black friend. When in fact they continue to not support people of
color in most cases. Liking people person only because you have
something in common gives little evidence of how they feel about
a race in general. This gambit by the GOP cost them more than
anything else. If they wished to use someonte to give evidence of
how or what they think about another, that person should have
been subject to questions by the committee.

The GOP didn't ask the witness questions about Trump. They
only wanted run the witness down because he didn't tell good
lies about Trump, as many of them do. Trumps fixer also warned
the GOP that they would end up being hurt by Trump just as he
has been, because Trump uses anyone he can, and for his own
benifit.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 01, 2019, 01:10:02 pm
President Trump continues his love for strong man leaders. He was
giving the north Korean leader credit for being smart, honest and
brave. Kind of like a boy scout I guess. Even though this man, if you
can call him that, is guilty of killing hundreds perhaps thousands
of people, even family. Hard telling how many have died in his
prisons and work houses. It seems Trump feels by talking nice
and making friends will go farther than holding them to the
facts. Trump needs to learn these people only respond to strength
not niceties which they see as being weak.

As expected Trump called his fixer a big lier, except when he didn't
say Trump was in collusion with Russia. Then Trump said he was happy
with  that truth. I guess Trump didn't catch his fixer saying he had
suspicions of Trumps collusion, just no evidence to show it. 

President Trump gave his son n law a top security clearance
even though he said he wouldn't. This was done against the
recommendations of our security people. They said he had
too many things other governments could use to blackmail
him into revealing state secrets. This is more evidence Trump
is a big security risk for our nation. The GOP apparently will wait
till Trump does serious damage to our country before they will
stand against him.

The GOP is having it's mutual admiration society meeting
today. Instead of being honest with them selves they are talking
about how good they are and how bad the democrats are. Perhaps
they will believe their own nonsense and cost themselves
a big loss in 2020, as they did in 2018.

I think the public at large is getting tired of how the GOP bows
to  the super rich and ignore regular people and those who don't
vote for them. They say they care about drug prices, and
health costs, then turn around and protect big businesses which
are the cause of all the high prices, along with lobbyists who
work to extend patents that protect exorbitant pricing.

You may feel the GOP protects free enterprise and capitalism.
They do, but the trouble is they mainly protect big business,
not the little guy or gal who wants to get ahead.  The GOP
leadership puts themselves ahead of their country, party and
anyone who votes against them.

There isn't anything wrong with being rich, it's how they treat
those they leave behind. They shouldn't use their money to
take advantage of others, or buy politicians to help them
make more money they don't really need. Rich people
often get the idea they are smarter than anyone else.
Then start treating others like children who need
their guidance. Be it good or bad.


You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 02, 2019, 12:21:26 pm
After the hearing with Trumps fixer lawyer the democrats
plan to have several hearings with people who worked for
Trump and his businesses. The GOP is complaining that it's
a lot about nothing, but they spent millions in tax dollars
investigating H Clinton over and over again, just for
political reasons. And they admitted they just wanted
to hurt her politically.

Many in the GOP leadership feel only they know how
to run this country. They have economic ideas that have
been proven wrong, yet they continue trying to use them.

40 years ago the middle class was growing. Then the GOP
decided to make rich people richer at the expense of the
middle class. Since then the rich have gotten richer and
the middle class has lost, no growth, just stagnation at
best.

It's apparently the plan of the GOP to say the democrats
want socialism. They point to high taxes on the rich, free
college and medicare for all as proof. I thin they best hope
those they plan to run against are stupid. Because the
GOP spends billions and billions of tax dollars giving
subsidies to big business and others. I had a friend
who had a few acres of land and received money from
the government to not plant anything on it, and he
wasn't even a farmer. Turns out many people with
a very few acres of land get money for not planting 
crops. Something they wouldn't do in the first place.

Yes some of these payouts are to help keep farming and
other businesses profitable, but it's still socialism. It helps
those who need it, and in many cases the rich that don't.

The richest Americans only want socialism for them
selves, not for the rest of us. Health care and education 
is very important to keep our country viable. Not a slave
society run by the super rich.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 03, 2019, 11:54:54 am
President Trump stood in front of his GOP supporters and
ranted and raved at the democrats for almost 2 hours yesterday.
It's likely just a preview of Trumps campign for the next 20
months while running for a second term. Of course the GOP
wants him, he will sign almost anything.

It appears the GOP leaders don't care if Trump breaks the
laws of our country. Or his oath of office. Even they, are
breaking their oath of office. It's like Trump and the GOP
use the constitution only when it's good for them, and not
when it isn't.

If we the people continue to allow this, our country as a
democracy will end. We will see our rights disappear one 
by one over time. Just like the proverbial frog being boiled
alive we will find our selves one day without rights. With
a autocrat running our lives and country.

Even if you like the things the GOP and Trump has done.
Allowing our leaders to break laws and the constitution
we are hurting the country, and our selves.

I don't think people would want criminals running our
police, even if they did nice things now and then. It
would make it impossible to depend on, or trust them.
It's no different haveing criminals running the country.
Even if they do thing we might like, they may
turn on us at anytime, because criminals only
care about themselves.

Trump complained about the democrats investigating his
businesses, taxes, and his finances. Trying to say it's supposed
to be about Russia, and his campaign, and nothing else. That's
like saying investigaters are supposed to ignore any crimes
they might find during their investigation. Well Trump, even though
you and others would like it that way, it isn't. Trump ought to have
known running for president puts a spotlight on everything he has
done during his entire life.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 04, 2019, 01:03:18 pm
It's not likely we will see much done in government till after
the 2020 election. The GOP and Democrats will be starting
their primaries by the end of 2019. Trump promised work
on infrastructure, lower health insurance costs, lower drug
costs, more manufacturing jobs, and more, hasn't went anywhere.
So far the only real thing he has done is cut taxes for the
rich, and big business. Yes it lowered taxes for some regular
people, but those are temporary, and many people are seeing
increases in taxes, where they expected less.

The big tax cuts for corporations the GOP and Trump claimed
would give raises in pay for workers, in most cases failed. Big
buisness ued the saving to buy back their stock to increase it's
value. It's just more proof the GOP's idea of "Trickle down
economics" doesn't work. Except to make rich people
richer. Oh yes one other thing. Trump and the GOP has
increased the national debt by over a trillion dollars in the
past two years. Even though Trump promised to lower it.

The democrats are starting hearings to investigate Trumps
business people and family members. We can be sure 
Trump and his supporters in congress will call this an
attack on the president. It is possible some GOP members
will start to pull away if hard evidence of any wrong doing
by Trump shows up.  After all protecting a criminal is
against the law too. Even if they are a member of
congress.

It appears the resolution to stop Trumps emergency declaration
will pass the senate. Trump has promised to veto it, so if the
GOP fails to help override the veto, we will at least know who 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
supports Trump and who supports the Constitution by voting
to override Trumps power grab.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 05, 2019, 12:57:41 pm
President Trump complains as the Democrats continue to
investigate his business activities and finances. It makes
one wonder what he is wanting to hide. He claimns releasing
his tax returns would open up extensive investigations by the
fake news to make him look bad. This makes little sense as the
news media cross check themselves all the time. So if they tried 
to make up a false story, they would be quickly found out.

We must excuse Fox (fake) News as they are paid to support
Trump and the GOP by the super rich. So little of what they say
can be believed. Just like Trump they run anyone down that
doesn't support the GOP or the president. A man who's mouth
gets dirtier during every speech.

President Trump told 104 lies during his 2 hour speech. Yet
a GOP conservative crowd cheered him during that speech
last Saturday. Does this mean those in the GOP could care
less how much of a crooked liar he is? Apparently not so
long as he is their crook, and gives them whatever they
want.

Over the last 2 years I am getting the impression that Trumps
supporters feel all politicians are crooks and liars. So they vote
for someone who they feel will give them what they want, and
care less if he or she is a criminal or not. I hope I am wrong,
because the ends never justify the means.

Once we start down that crooked path it can lead to anything.
Trump supporters may like how he lies and makes up stories to
cover his crooked ways, but if it benefits him he will hurt our
country. Even now he gives top secret security clearance to
those he wants, in-spite of how dangerous it is to our national
security.

Trump invites sports teams to the white house every now and then.
Especially if they are famous. He then feeds them burgers and fries,
and who knows what else. I wonder why he never invites sports teams
of Women and only men? Perhaps he is afraid of women with
muscles.


You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 06, 2019, 12:19:13 pm
As usual the Democrats are not being tough enough. The
GOP isn't afraid to speak out, but it seems the Democrats
are afraid to be controversial. They need to stand up and
defend their members, and not run away from something
when the GOP and far right news media makes it look bad.
They should remember the GOP voters aren't going to vote
for them anyway.

The Democrats have a lot of diversity, so it's to be expected
there will be some variety in how people feel about things. The
new members in the Democrat party are more out spoken and
should be supported, not put down the way the GOP wants.

The GOP found out 40 years ago that speaking out and standing
up for their selves works. So they holler and get on the news
where ever they can to give their line even if it's misleading.  I
am not saying they should lie, but they should tell it like it is
no matter what the GOP thinks. People like to see strength
in their leaders. That's a big reason why Trump has so
much support. Even with all his lies, and racism.

It appears president Trump did a poor job talking to the
north Korean leader. Reports are north Korea is prepareing a
launch site for a new long range missle test. Trump never
listens to peaple that understand how north Korean leaders
think. Instead of having preparation talks, he hops on air
force one and flies to a meeting thinking he can make any
deal he wants. This is just more of Trumps ignorance. He isn't
makeing a real estate deal, these leaders are a lot smarter
than he is.

Speaking of Trumps intelligence. Trump claims he is very
smart, Yet he hides his school records. When he should be
proud of them if he was being honest.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 07, 2019, 12:41:36 pm
The GOP is calling Trumps fixer lawyer a liar again because his
lawyer asked for a pardon soon after the FBI grabbed his office
papers and other documents. He said he didn't ask for a pardon,
but this makes him look like he lied again. I really doubt if he
intended it as a lie. But I am sure the GOP will want to, trying
to protect Trump, their president, who is the biggest liar of all. 

The Democrats in the house have sent Trump a request of several
documents involving many of his actions over the past two years.
Also some relating to his finances. Trump is trying to call this  an
attack on the office of the president. He is already talking about
using presidential privileges as an excuse to not provide some
of them. So it's likely congress will have to file subpoenas for
the information. This will likely end up in the courts, perhaps
even to the  supreme court where the GOP has a 5 to 4
conservative advantage. It will be interesting to see if the
conservative supreme court stands up for the constitution
and not the GOP.

A Democrat member of the house has been been called
Anti Jewish because she bad mouthed the government of
Israel. I hardly think calling out a country for doing bad
things is being an Jewish. Even Jewish countrymen
should complain if their government is doing bad
things.

Of course some people are thin skinned about things. I am
sure some feel it's un American to not approve of the Trump
administration.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 08, 2019, 12:59:23 pm
The anti socialist republican party continues to practice
socialism accross this country. They call it freedom when
they subsidize poorly run companies with tax dollars. It's
only socialism when it helps the little people with health
care and survival. Not when they give big tax breaks and
other subsidies to their rich and big business friends.

Trumps campaign manager was convicted on bank and tax
fraud, not Russia or collusion as Trump claims. His sentence 
given by the judge was too short for the crime. That's not
my opinion, but the opinion of professional lawyers and
prosecutors as well. The judge made comments that he
felt the case was motivated to harm Trump. Seems the
judge was being partason. Something no judge should
be guilty of. One might wonder if the fact he was
nominated to be a federal judge by a republican
president affected his feelings about Trump and
his campaign manager. One can only guess.

As usual president Trump sides with those who are loyal
to him. It doesn't matter how bad they are as long as they
try to protect him. Then they are a fine person. If they don't
he calls them a liar and a rat. He calls his lawyer fixer of 10
years a bad lawyer. If so why did Trump keep him for all
those years. He only became a bad person and lawyer
when he turned against his master, Trump. Now Trump
claims his lawyer fixer directly asked for a pardon. This
is very likely another lie by the liar in chief, Trump.

If Trump is so smart how come he has surrounded himself
with crooked bad people? People he calls smart and fine. I
think all people have to be is rich and loyal, then Trump calls
them smart and fine. No matter how much of a crook they
are.

People say they support Trump because he fights back. Well
I don't call lying about people fighting, it's just lying and
nothing else. Over 9000 lies so far.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 09, 2019, 01:19:28 pm
President Trump the liar in chief is still trying to  call his lawyer
fixer a liar when he said he didn't ask for a pardon. Trump even
claims he asked him directly for a pardon. If this is the case
Trump should go sit before a congressional committee under
oath and make the same claim. But no, Trump is too afraid
to stick his chicken neck out where he would be caught in
a lot of lies that could get him impeached.

He would rather stand up before reporters and lie where
it won't get him in legal trouble. That way he can pretend
to fight with fake stories and lies.

Trump may rule the day he ran for president if the state
of New York files charges againsthim for tax evasion and
money laundering. His power of the pardon won't do him
any good if he or his family is tossed in state prison.

The february job numbers were 75% lower than the
Trump administration predicted. Trump didn't want to
talk about that so he said wages were up. Well wages
aren't doing that well. Just barely holding with inflation.
Other economic  news isn't doing that well either. The
trade deficit is going up inspite of Trumps promise to
lower it. Also the national debt is climbing fast due to
the ridiculous republican tax cut of 2017. During
Trumps campaign he promised to  lower the debt.
the national debt. Just more empty promises made
by the so called great mam Trump. Even though
he had control of both the house and the senate.

Trump promised more and more factory jobs, but
they are still leaving the country to cut
their costs. Trumps idea of tariffs have
made it even worse for many small
businesses across the nation.
It's small buisnesses that
create most of our nations jobs.
So Trump may see even more
low job growth in the future.

I am sure he will try to  blaim all of his failures on
the democrats now that they control the house.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 10, 2019, 12:46:52 pm
The department of justice under Trump claims a president can't
be indicted, but it seems to  me that's why we have a vice president.
He or she can take over anytime the president is disabled for any
reason. Legal, medical, or otherwise. Yet this seems to be ignored
unless the president dies. I think it's time no matter who is in
office, if they are guilty of wrong doing they should be removed
till a decision of guilt of innocence and ability to serve is found.

I think pardons by the president should not apply to family, friends,
or buisness associate. Human nature leads to protective desires by
anyone with the unlimited power to pardon. Even to protect themselves.
I really think only those recommended by a impartial panel should
be pardoned.

There are over a dozen people running for president as Democrats.
Many would claim to be left of center on policies, but some are
moderates. People shouldn't worry about left leaning candidates
running for the office of the president. It's congress who makes
the laws, not the president. Inspite of how Trump has tried to
do since in office.  the president is only a leader, not a law maker.

The big reason we need to get rid of Trump is because he is not
a leader of the people. He ignores the needs of those who didn't
vote for  him. This shows he only wishes to use the office of the
president for his own benifit. His abuse of power and attempt to
devide the people only harms us all. He claimes he wanted to
make the country great again, he has done nothing but pull us
down in the eyes of the world.

Some might not care what the world or other countries thinko f
us, but we have to live with them, and many people depend on
commerce with other countries for their livelihood.  Trump,
due to his ignorance of International economics our trade
deficit has increased since he has been in office. Leaders of
of other countries do not find Trumps bullying tactics
acceptable. They will just walk away instead of makeing
deals that benifit us both.

Trump thinks he is smarter than those who have spent
many years dealing with other countries. There isn't
anything wrong with questioning advice, but he isn't smart
enough to know when he is wrong. I am sure he is a fine
real estate dealer, and salesman, but that's about all.

If we don't elect a different person for president in 2020
our country and our people will suffer even more. Even our
democracy could be damaged, with the loss of rights for
us all.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 11, 2019, 12:30:30 pm
Trump is  still wanting to  build a wall and put funding for it in his budget
for the coming year. Also he is wanting to increase spending for the
military and cut funding for programs that help the poor and the needy.
Programs he and the GOP like to call socialism. Even though the rich
and big business continue to get their government aid through tax
cuts and subsidies. It's a real possibility we will see another government
shutdown in October over Trumps wall.

It's odd to me if a wall was such a good idea why doesn't the border states
agree with it. It seems only states far away agree. I think it's because they
don't have any real experience with what is going on. Just like sheep they
follow Trump and his idiotic iconic wall. There are many ways to circumvent
a wall. Hiding in vehicles crossing at ports of entry, tunneling under it, going
around in boats. Or even coming in from Canada. It's just a ridiculous waste
of money, and makes us look bad to other people around the world.

The news media is always looking to find fault with people running for the
office of president. It's good to point out who they are and their history.
Rather than having it come out late in their campaigns. I do think they worry
that the public will think they are taking sides, if they don't bad mouth the
the Democrats as much as they do Trump. The problem is Trump is so
bad that he gets more coverage. I think he did this in 2016 to get a lot
of news coverage, by being so controversial. It saved him 100's of millions
in advertising after all. It took months before the media called Trumps lies
lies instead of something else they felt was nicer. I am sure Trump will try
to do this during his 2020 campaign. If nothing else Trump is a good
salesman as he knows how to manipulate people, to sell himself.

Trump continues to claim he has been good for the economy, but if anything
the economy is facing a slow down. Trump has been riding the wave that
Obama created, but after two years of poor management by the Trump
administration, it's falling off. How long will his excuses work if job growth
continues to fall?

President Trump continues to claim the Democrats are anti jewish, if so
why is there only 2 jews in the GOP, and 18 jews as Democrats? Much the
same with women. Only 21 serving as republican in the U.S. congress, and
around 100 serve as Democrats. It seems to me it's the GOP has little or
no room to call the Democrats anti Jewish or anti women. It's the far right
that they and Trump holds dear that want a pure white country and to keep
women in the home.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 12, 2019, 01:00:49 pm
Obama's vice president Joe Biden, may be running for president
as a democrat in 2020. He is very popular at this time, but it's
likely Trump will try to say it's Obama all over again or a Clinton
re run. So it's hard to  say how it would work out. He is a good
politician, so he would be good at pointing out why getting rid
of Trump and the GOP is a good idea.

Trump is proposing taking money out of medicare to help pay
for the big tax cut of 2018. I wonder what his older white supporters
will think of Trump when they have to pay out a lot more for their
health care. Trump told his supporters during his campaign that he
wouldn't touch medicare, medic aide, or social security. The GOP
has been wanting to get rid of these programs since the day they
were created. So it's likely they have talked Trump in to  breaking
his promise not to touch them. Fortunately for those of us
who depend on these programs, the Democrat controlled house
will stop all attempts to cut them.

President Trump made a bad statement that commercial aircraft
are too complex and likely leads to crashes. He implied going
back to the old stick and rudder pilot  control would be better.
This just shows how ignorant Trump is. commercial planes
are much safer today due to the high end controls and
advanced avionics. Going back to simple yoke and rudder
controls would put the flying public at a much greater risk.

It appears Trump is playing to  common sense ideas that  many
of his voters think is best. Though commonsense works well in
many cases, it fails when you apply it to complex forms like
flying. I am sure many pilots enjoy flying private planes that
use a minimum of advanced controls like auto pilots and advanced
avionics. I used to fly so I can tell you even the private pilot
uses the best avionics he or she can afford.

It has been found that North Korea is smuggling via shipping
to make millions selling coal, and weapons systems. They use
electronic means and repainting their ships to misidentify them.
Partly to cheat banks and insurance companies. All this after
Trump tries to claim the north Korean leader is a good guy
we should trust. This should show us all he is wrong.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 13, 2019, 12:56:22 pm
Trumps campaign manager appeared in court to be sentenced
for his crimes. He appealed with what sounded like a heart felt
apology. Should have had a tiny violin playing in the background
the way he said it. We can only wonder if the judge believed it
after all his lies. The judge took her time apparently with appeals
that will follow in mind. The judge implied his apology was rather
hollow after all his actions. This includes his giving up a chance
for a lighter sentence. This all ends with a judgement that
gave him an additional 3 1/2 years to his previous sentencing.

As before this mans lawyers walked out and claimed the case
proved there was no collusion between Trump and Russia. Even
though the judge clearly stated the case had nothing to do with
collusion. This is likely just his lawyers sucking up to Trump, to
get a pardon.

Personally I think this just another case where a white man got
a lighter sentence than an poor unknown person would get. Also
where a  poor unknown would be in prison behind bars this guy
basically lived in a hotel like atmosphere with a suite of rooms
with a computer and television for the last several months. It's
time we changed incarceration so it treats every one basically
the same. Especially prior to sentencing.  He even complained
because he had to stay in his suite 23 hours a day.

I fear the only way this treatment of the rich will be more even
is when we have people in congress who aren't rich. Untill them
the rich will keep it the same.

I imagine Trump, who has said his campaign manager is a great
guy will eventually pardon him. Likely not until after the
2020 election though, as it would hurt Trump politically. It is still
possible he could be charged by the state of New York. Beyond any
chance of a pardon.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 14, 2019, 12:18:23 pm
As predicted Trumps campaign manager was indicted in New Yore
on 16 counts. This right after his sentencing in Washington DC.
If convicted he could get  up to 25 years in state prison, with
no chance of a pardon by Trump.

Democrats in the house are passing a resolution that would require
the release of the special counsel's report when finished. Will the
GOP controlled senate pass it as well? If so Trump will likely veto
it. Even so this will give the Democrats something to punish the
GOP with in 2020 if they vote against it.

After several days the Trump administration finally grounded the
Boeing Super max 8/9, after practically every other country using
them did.

President Trump is still putting immigrant children in prison
camps. Run by private companies who are making 10's of
millions in the process. Little or no care is being done to
protect them from sexual abuse. Even though there are
are reports of such attacks. Those running these camps
won't allow the press or those in congress to properly
inspect them. Apparently under Trumps orders. It's
obvious Trump doesn't want the news media or anyone
taking pictures or talking to the kids, for fear of the truth
coming out.

Trump complaints about our laws that allow immigrants
to enter or country as refugees. Calling them bad laws
because other countries don't let people in so easily.
Trump and many of his supporters have forgotten this
country was built on the backs of immigrants coming
to make a better life for themselves and their children.
Unlike other countries our history is short, and our land
was largely empty with tribes of people scattered with
few working together to build a nation. This allowed
people like us from other nations to steal their land.
Yes ifanything we are the outsiders, just as immigrants
are today.

The day we turn our basks on immigrants is the say
our country will start to fall.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 15, 2019, 12:30:46 pm
Trump lost support for his emergency declaration, but he
doesn't care. He said he would  veto the resolution to end
his emergency declaration and go ahead with his plans to
build a wall. A wall he only supports because he thinks it
will get him re elected. Even though it's cost will come out
of the pockets of the tax payers and not Mexico.

Has president Trumps anti Muslim rants caused those far
right individuals to attack an kill Moslem's here and in
other parts of the world? Just  today many Moslem's
were killed during prayers in New Zealand by far right
anti immigrant individuals.

Someone like Trump who seems to  think simple fixes
will fix anything, has created problems for here and
around the world. It's very rare that a simple fix does
anything but cause problems in our complex world.

Trump doesn't seem to understand that he can't run
a country like a business. He claimed he was going to
hire the best people, but instead he hired the worst,
people filled with greed and caring only for their own
benefit. Trump is only concerned about loyalty to himself
and not our country.

It has been proven that radicals strike out when leaders
turn against groups, be they minorities or religions they
don't like. Many times Trump has come very close to  asking
his followers to  commit violence against those he doesn't
like. It's very possible Trump will go too far if he looses
re election in 2020. He has practically said he would
call for demonstrations across the nation if he looses. As
we know such demonstration can become violent.

Unfortunately all they need is a bit of encouragement,
even to kill. It seems they think their actions will solve
problems for the leader, though it just makes things worse.
It's been this way down through history. People listen to a
leader and feel they need to help. Instead they should
investigate the issue, but they never seem to.

As president Trump should call for unity, not just to his
voters , but to the nation. Instead he tweets discontent
and hate for those he feels are against him.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 16, 2019, 12:41:38 pm
Trump claimed he didn't have to pressure any GOP members
to vote against the resolution to stop his emergency declaration
but as usual this was a big black lie. He had the VP there for
days putting pressure on them and saying if they voted for
the resolution they would be helping the Democrats give
a free pass to criminals and drugs crossing the border with
Mexico. Even with all this 12 GOP senators voted to stop
Trumps power grab. Problem is it needed 20
stop a veto by Trump.

Trump claimed he wanted to make America Great again,
the only way that will ever happen is to get the rich
Americans out of politics. To do this will take term limits
and people voting. Trump never wanted to make anyone
great but himself.

The super rich of our country want to call the poor lazy and
a drag on the economy. When the Democrats wish to curb the
excesses of the super rich, they cry socialism or claim they
are against the free market and capitalism. The super rich
hands millions to charities trying to make themselves look
good.

It's time we put term limits on those in congress, this would
help clean out the scum that builds over time. Yes we would
loose some good people, but no one is indispensable. Those
who stay for years are very susceptible to  corruption. Being
in congress is very attractive to many people. They love
the prestige and power it gives them. So some will do most
anything to stay there.  In the house or the senate. Term limits
was put on the presidency, so there is no reason we can't
do it for congress too.

This would bring new faces and ideas into congress as well.
as is we have many who are stuck on old ideas which many
fail to help anyone but the rich. Real estee laws are a good
example. Real estate is still used as a tax shelter for many,
especially the very rich. These laws had helped the economy
in the beginning, but  now it's just a break for the wealthy.
Ever notice that real estate dealers are common as flies in
nearly ever town and city. It's because it's a easy way to
make a lot of money, and has tax advantages. That's how
Trumps father and family got so rich. It's time these tax
laws were changed.

The GOP plays on the public's greed to stay in power. They
cut taxes, then the Democrats get blamed when they have
to raise taxes to balance the budget. Then the GOP claims
the poor should go to charities to get help because social
programs make government too big, and will ruin the
economy with high taxes. Something the GOP wants
to cut at the cost of the needy and poor. If you don't
believe it just lookat Trumpsbudget. It's full of cuts
that will hurt most everyone but the rich.

Billions cut from medicare and medicaid.
Billions cut from farm programs and food
stamps that keep the needy and children from
going hungry.
Increases in interest rates for studen loans.
These are only a few.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 17, 2019, 01:10:59 pm
A white nationalist killed almost 50 in New Zealand. this is
an act of terrorism. Not a sick man with a grudge. He even
said he was a follower of Trump. Does Trump disown white
nationalism? No, other than saying it was a terrible act, he
still supports the white national movement, to say all groups
have bad people in them.

I think it's time we call white nationalists terrorists. Not just
calling them sick people when they shoot kids or religious
groups. Terrorism isn't limited to ISIS, but anyone who
goes out to kill a lot of people. It's not the job of white
nationalists civilians to stop an invasion of criminals.

It's the job of all people to vote for those of conscious
and moral fiber to decide what is good for the country.
Not to follow an immoral leader who was elected by a
minority of misled voters.

President Trump claims he isn't spreading hate with his support
of white nationalism. I really think most of Trumps supporters
don't think of themselves as fascist, but it is at the heart of 
white nationalism. After ww1 Germany and then Italy moved
toward fascism. Germany in particular felt they had to stand
up for themselves with the persecution they felt after their
defeat. This started with only a small group of people led by
a charismatic mad man named Hitler. It spread across their
nation before the majority population realized where it was
going. Then with promises of jobs for all and a great nation
Hitler led a modest sized nation into a war that killed millions,
and nearly destroyed their country.

I am not saying Trump is a new Hitler, but he is a fascist.
====================================
A fascist is a follower of a political philosophy characterized
by authoritarian views and a strong central government —
and no tolerance for opposing opinions.
====================================

I think we can see the Trump movement closely follows fascist
history. The GOP party is being dragged into this fascist cult by
his supporters. We can only hope the Democrats can take control
before it's too late for us all.

Good people often do bad things when they are misled by bad people.
I think once most of Trumps supporters realize the truth they will
quickly leave him and his crooked ways. Hopefully sooner than later.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 18, 2019, 12:50:39 pm
President Trump the mad tweeter is claiming the news media is blaming
him for the shooting in New Zealand. I suggest he get the wax out of his
ears. The media is only pointing out that Trumps support of white nationalists
is encouraging them to commit acts of violence and terrorism. It's true
he didn't tell them to  shoot anyone, but it's a known fact that when those
in power give any support to  radical elements they will commit violence.

Yes it was good to say it was a terrible act, but he must condemn not just
the perpetrators, but the whole movement they follow. The trouble is
Trump is scared to condemn or turn against these people, because
 they might not vote for him if he does. So he dances around the truth.

I  think it's interesting that a majority of the people believe the special
counsels investigation of Trump is a witch hunt. The man leading it is
a republican after all. It seems either the polling is faulty or people
are loosing their minds. Many of the people around Trump have been
shown to be crooks, and his cabinet is full of Trump loyalists who
waste many thousands of tax dollars. Trump his cabinet and his
GOP supporters in congress only follow the law and the constitution
when it suits them.

The democrats in the house have been investigating Trump and his
people, so now Trump is trying to say they are attacking the office of
the president. This is just another of his many coverups.

Sometimes I feel people who support Trump like him mainly because
the is being attacked by the so called establishment, and how he
 stands up against them. It's much  the way people like the
support the underdog. Some say it's how he supports the
white race. Hopefully not. I can remember people complaining
about government waste and excess. They seem to think
Trump is working to put an end to it. The trouble is he is
just making it worse and tweeting lies upon lies trying
to hide that fact.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 20, 2019, 01:18:40 pm
The list of democrats for president is growing. It appears
there is a lot of  people wanting to get a chance to vote for
a president with morals and doesn't lie every time he opens
his mouth. A man who cares about our democracy instead
of wanting an autocracy. Where he runs everything
according to  his wishes. No one man is smart enough
to run a country as big as the United States. In spite of
Trumps claims. A man who has the lowest IQ of all.

Trump the mad tweeter is at it again. Running down a
military hero 7 months after the man died. So much
shame on our country with a president running down
John Mc cain. A man who was proud to  serve our
country and spent years fighting a war from a plane
and tortured as a POW. Trump who paid to stay out
of the draft, so he could stay  out of it, should be on
his knees begging MC Cains family's forgiveness
after his disgusting tweets.

A GOP congressman is suing twitter, claiming
They are supporting the democrats over the GOP.
Also people who called him names as well. If this
suit grows any legs our freedom of speech is at
risk. Already Trump is saying this suit is a
good thing even though twitter has been his
mouthpiece for several years. Trump, Fox news,
and many other conservative outlets best hope
it fails or they will be in the same boat as twitter.

We need a man or woman in the white house who is
more interested in our country and doing the job than
Trump. A man who spend most of his time complaining
about his mistreatment than doing a good job. He doesn't
seem to realize that all presidents get bad press. Crying
about it does him and the country little good.

It's time we get rid of the electoral system of electing our
presidents. This antiquated system where the founders
wanted only educated people to decide who would be
president. Also to give party preference if the vote wasn't
decisive, and to give states more say. At the time this was
probably a good plan, but as with other ideas, it's time
as past. No longer do we limit voting to white male  land
owners. Today all people vote and all peoples vote for
president should be counted. Not just those in states
where the candidate gets a majority vote. The president
leads the whole country, not just those in states who
voted for him or her.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 21, 2019, 01:01:02 pm
Looking to buy a new foreign made car? President Trump
is planning to add thousands in taxes on all new foreign cars
in the near future. Even though Trump may claim this is
to encourage the purchase of American made cars at home.
This is nothing more than a tariff on autos. So it will also
hurt American made car sales in other countries when they
add a similar tax to our cars as well. This will likely hurt
jobs in the automotive industry instead of helping them.
Tariffs do more harm than good in spite of what Trump
thinks. This is why we quit using tariffs 100 years ago.

president Trump is already in campaign mode. Not that
he hasn't been since he was elected in 2016. He has had
several rally's in the past 2 years. Not counting his mad
tweets. He claims he has to use twitter because the news
media lies about him. The truth is he uses twitter to tell lies
to his voters. Just as he does during his rallies.

President Trump says the special counsels reports should
be made public. It's likely Trump will reverse this the very
next day. He should be asked to put it in print and not just
say it. Trump has denied comments he said even when
it's on video. So it's not what he says, but what he does
that counts.

It is possible the new Attorney General has informed Trump
of the special counsels progress and what he the AG
will release.

President Trump has told the Democrats he would not give
them any papers or allow staff to give information during
hearings they may have to attend. He is doing this using
presidential privileged. I would say the war has been joined
as the Democrats in the house have the right to ask or
demand documents from the White House. So subpoenas
will follow. Then  it will be up to the courts and perhaps the
supreme court to decide.  It will be interesting to see if the
conservative supreme court follows the constitution or the
wants of the GOP.

Trump has been bad mouthing the husband of Kelly, one of
his favorite supporter. It's likely she supports Trump because
of the money he pays her and not his policies. I say this
because she was bad mouthing Trump during the 2016
campaign when she worked for Senator Ted Cruz.

New Zealand has made military style assault rifles illegal
for public use, or ownership. To me this is just a feel good
law as any semi automatic rifle with a large magazine can
do the same thing. The main problem is the availability of
high capacity magazines, not the rifle it's self. Laws to limit
magazine capacity would be fine, but it's doubtful it could
be enforced.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 22, 2019, 12:20:18 pm
President Trump is still calling the special counsel's upcoming report a
witch hunt. This is just him trying to convince his voters not believe
anything that might prove him guilty of working with the Russians.

The media is claiming it's about to come out, but it could be some time
before it does. We can only wonder if Trumps attorney general will release
anything that is harmful to Trump. Only time will tell.

President Trump continues to attack senator Mc Cain. An American  Hero
who died 7 months ago. He is trying to say he is just answering questions
about the man, but Trump took time during his last rally to bad mouth him,
and we know Trump never takes question during his long winded rally's.

Trump is mad at him because he opposed him, and Trump wants to call
him part of the establishment. Just as he does anyone who stands against
him, even those in his own party.

Trump is still trying to say the Democrats are anti Israel or even anti Jewish
because they don't agree with his actions about the Jewish state. They know
Trump is just trying to help the hard right leader of Israel to win his election.
Trump tried to say he didn't even know about the election which is a lie,
unless he has been hiding under a rock with his friends.

If the democrats are so much against the Jews, then why do
they have 18 people in congress while the GOP only has 2.

If the hard right leader wins, any peace in the middle east
will likely be lost as he and the hard right in Israel have no
plans to make peach with the Palestinians. It's a shame
people in that part of the world can't find a way to get
along.

The evangelicals are trying to  say Trump is a gift from GOD to Israel. A
typical response from people who think they know what  GOD wants.
However in this case they are trying to  convince their followers to
vote for Trump. In spite of Trump being an immoral unfeeling racist.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on March 22, 2019, 06:27:44 pm
BREAKING NEWS!

THE MUELLER REPORT IS DONE!
  :o

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/mueller-submits-russia-report/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/russia-investigations/#/

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/22/opinions/mueller-report-calm-before-storm-honig/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/22/politics/robert-mueller-report/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 23, 2019, 12:12:53 pm
The special counsels report has been handed over to Trumps
attorney general. We should remember this report is about the
campaign of president Trump, and not to indict the president as
the department of justist rules say a president cannot be indicted.
Also there are several loose ends that question the decision of
the special counsel left undone. These may have been turned
over to other prosecutors. The public needs to know this.

Many in the GOP and Trump are calling this a vindication of Trump
and  others. This is premature as there are many other investigations
of Trump, his family, and others around him in progress.

It has come to light trumps family has been using private emails to
handle government documents. The very thing Trump wanted to put
H. Clinton in jail for. Also the special counsels investigation wasn't
about Trump's coverups as president. So congress will have to
follow up on this. This doesn't count the counter intelligence
investigations on Trump and his family. Was Trump just a
puppet used by Russia? Or did he think he was smart enough
to use Putin for his own benefit? Seems this is yet to be
determined.

We also have to  assume the special counsel was under no pressure
to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. If he was to indict the
president, he being a member of the GOP would likely be an outcast
for the rest of his life. This is why the entire report and background
information needs to be released to the public. This way the public
can see for themselves what the special counsel investigated.

People need to understand how limited the special counsels
investigation was. It's limits haven't even been released in
entirety yet.

According to the AG he will release a basic outline of the report
this weekend. We have to wonder how much will be reported, and
will the AG limit it to favor Trump?  Trumps AG has a record of
wanting to protect a president above all. This is likely why Trump
nominated him.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 24, 2019, 12:33:01 pm
The Gust as well be crying "Trump is our King", the way they stand up
for him. They already refuse to pass laws unless Trump their King will
agree with it. Now they are saying "No indictment", so the  democrats
should bow to Trump and stop all investigations. The special counsels
report investigations were very limited by law, so we have to  allow
other investigations to follow possible crimes discovered over the last
3 years. They should continue no matter what lies GOP conservatives
want to use that will please their King.

The special counsels report is still in limbo while Trumps atterney genera
decides what congress and the public can see. We know Barr has a record
of protecting presidents, so we can only guess what he is up to.

The AG said yesterday he would release a summery or outlin of the
report today. Well the public deserves the whole report, not some
watered down summery that pleases the GOP and Trump.

Conservatives are claiming victory for Trump, but unless they have
a back channel to the AG they don't know anymore than anyone
else. People should know there are still 18 investigations going on
about Trump, his family and others.  It's likely though they
will still cry Trump wins over the witch hunt.

Already the GOP is hinting at starting new investigations of
Obama and H. Clinton. This is just more politics, because the GOP
is afraid they will loose the Senate and the White House in 2020.

The conservatives are saying "No collusion" when those working
for Trump who were indicted had been found talking to Russian
officials during Trumps campaign. So that is collusion even if it
wasn't Trump himself. We know people working for Trump never
do anything of substance without his authorization.

People who don't see anything wrong with Trump working with
foreigners like Russians will regret it, because we will start loosing
our civil rights if our democracy is weakened. Russia has a federal
government with a congress of sorts, but it's so weak that
president Putin has become  a autocratic dictator. People who
oppose him are either killed or thrown in prison. This could
happen here if we allow some autocratic wannabe like
Trump use excuses to take away our rights.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 29, 2019, 12:20:12 pm
Due to  furtopia being down, my news and comments posts have been
delayed. But the last 4 days havent changed much anyway.

The special counsels report, a report of over 300 to 400
pages has yet to be released. Instead all we have a 4 
page summery report from the AG, Barr, another supporter
of Trump.

Barr is wanting weeks to reveal the report to congress, a time
much longer then the GOP driven report about President
Clinton which only took 2 days to release along with
the background information. It makes one wonder what
the attorney general and Trump are trying to
cover up by taking so long, when they don't have
plans to even release the special counsels background
to it's report. Trump is even hinting he plans to
claim presidential privileged to keep parts of the
report secret. This will add to suspicions of Trump's
guilt in my opinion.

Even if Trump isn't found guilty of collusion wit Russia, he and his
campaign management shows a lot of connection between Trump
and Russia, along with wanting their help. This is unpatriotic and
shows how little he cares for our country.

Last night in a rally he claimed total vindication, along with
the filthy language he used against his opponents. He can claim
what he wants, but using filthy language, and lies, is demeaning
of the presidency, and our country.

-----------------------------------------------
The following was written  4 days ago,



The special counsels report, is the attorney general
giving us the straight poop, or is his letter written
to protect the president? If the whole report isn't
released how will we ever know what is true and what
is not? Cleverly written letters can make anything
look good or bad.

According to the AG Trump guilt wasn't established, but
it didn't show Trump being innocent either. So we need
to see why it didn't one way or the other.

The letter was apparently designed to help Trump Just
as I expected this GOP appointed AG to do. Untill we
the public can see the report we can expect Trump to
claim he has been proven innocent, and will continue
to call it a failed witch hunt by the democrats. In
fact he will likely call it that no matter what.

This report leads us to believe we need to continue the
investigation of Trump, his family, and those around him.
I am sure Trumps supporters feel this should put an end
to investigations about Trump, but in fact it shows just
the opposite.

With 18 investigations still in progress. The Trump
administration can't claim innocence. Congress must
continue to show the public the real truth to reveal
Trumps actions along with his family and others who
have worked for them. Many who have been convicted
of crimes.

Of course he won't remind us the GOP went after H-Clinton
for almost 4 years without finding any guilt what so ever.
A real witch hunt for political reason, and there are
indications they want to continue with Obama added on.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 30, 2019, 12:00:51 pm
The house of representatives has subpoenas  the White House
to find out what is going on with security clearances for
people there. It seems Trump is giving security clearances
to people who really shouldn't have them. Including his
son n law.

Also they are calling Trumps new AG, Barr in to question
him about his summery of the special counsels report. He
isn't supposed to  have an opinion on the report himself.
It's up to congress to decide how to interpret it. Or to
settle indecision's. Barr is now claiming he needs to protect
third parties from embarrassment. We can only wonder who
they are.

We should know Barr doesn't believe a president can be
guilty of a cover up. So how could he have a honest opinion
about the Special counsels report. Especially if it shows
evident of a cover up. Barr sent a letter to the white house
saying he felt the special counsels investigation was wrong.
During his hearing for appoinmtne he didn't mean it. After this
the GOP voted to appoint him even though he had no business
being the attorney general. Just because Trump wanted him.

Also others in Trumps cabinet for questionable actions.

Yes Trump is complaining, but it's the job of the house to
over see the actions of the president and his cabinet.
It appears congress will have to subpoena the White house
and likely go to court to pry informations out of the
Trump administration. , and yes even Trump's tax returns
whits he has done his best to hide.

This is why the GOP is putting conservative judges in
federal courts. So they will likely get favorable
decisions when they go after policies, or laws they
don't like. Or keep those they do.

Trump and the GOP wanted to stop government support of
the special Olympics, till the GOP received enough public
pressure to tell Trump to change his mind. Apparently from
GOP voters, because they rarely care what democrat voters
want. Trump claimed he didn't know about it when he told the
press he was for the special Olympics, even though he had not
supported it in any of his budgets.

The other day Trump decided to try again to get rid of the
ACA (Obama care). This has GOP members pulling their hair
out as they wanted to avoid talking about health care. As it likely
caused them to loose the house in 2018, and it may cost them
the senate and the white house in 2020. I think it's just Trump
wanting to get rid of it because it was Obama's big win. Getting
rid of it will likely be Trump and the GOP's big loss.

The GOP doesn't want national health care as it will make
government larger, and require higher taxes on their rich
friends. The  don't care if the middle class can't afford
health care, much less the elderly and the poor.  150
million people have pre-existing health  problems that
insurance companies don't want to sell insurance to. So
the GOP will have to explain to these people why they 
took their health care away from them.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 31, 2019, 12:41:04 pm
Joe Biden who was the VP for Obama has been accused of inappropriate
touching, kissing, or hugging a woman. He says he doesn't remember it,
but most politicians are very outgoing and often have a habit of touching,
and hugging people. I have a friend who is that way, but in a totally innocent
way. It's good this has come out now, but unless someone has a history
like Trump of being a womanizer this shouldn't be an issue.

The conservative media is touting Trump has been vindicated, yet the
actual special counsels report hasn't been released yet. Only a summery by a
prolifically appointed AG who called the investigation wrong to begin with. A
man who shouldn't have been approved because of his political position about
Trump and the investigation.

Though Trump claims innocence, polls don't agree with him. Only about 30% of
the country think he was exonerated. As usual he feels we should all bow and
believe everything he says. Well after over 8000 documented lies I  don't believe
anything he says. Only what he does, where in most cases is disgusting, and full
of lies.

President Trump claimed he was going to hire the best people. Turns out he
hired the best people alright, millionaires, and billionaires all. The best people
to support him and his corrupt antisocial activities. The GOP leadership who
run Trump down during the primaries, now support him blindly. Turning
their back on the constitution and laws unless it favor's their King Trump.
The GOP controlled senate won't even vote unless their king approves it.
Just as Putin controls his congress in Russia. If the GOP still controlled
the house, nothing would be done to investigate the president who
cares nothing for anyone but himself, and little for  his supporters.

If you are a supporter of Trump, and don't want to believe me. Go
check the congressional record online. Be careful of search engines
which tend to show popular websites that may not tell the truth.
Don't just listen to the conservative media who makes a lot of money
supporting Trump. I however am a concerned citizen who see's Trump
as a danger to our freedom and democracy.


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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 01, 2019, 01:15:04 pm
The democrats in the house are planning to subpoena the attorney
general to release the special counsels report. Trump is already
complaining that it's illegal and the AG decides what to release.
I have a hunch Trump doesn't want the whole report released
as it would likely cause him political problems at the very least.

Trump is wanting to put another conservative judge on the supreme
court, so he is suggesting justice Ginsburg needs to resign. Using
her age and past health issues as an excuse. He may want this, but
I doubt if she will leave untill she feels she can't do the job. Hopefully
she will stay untill Trump is gone. The last thing we need is another
far  right conservative on the supreme court.

President Trump plans to close parts of the border with Mexico to
stop immigrants. He hopes this will get Mexico to stop immigrants
from crossing Mexico to the United States. This is another one of
his quick fixes which will likely cost jobs, and cause food shortages
here in the United States. It will also cause immigrants to hunt for
other ways into our country. Giving Trump another excuse for
his wall. Trump doesn't care who he hurts as long as his supporters
like what he does.

With a full one third of our trade with other countries coming from
Mexico it will likely increase the drain on our economy. There are
already signs of a coming recession, and this will only make it
worse.

Trump is removing aid to central American countries which will likely
cause even more people from these countries to head for the United
States. Trump claims this is to encourage them to get rid of the
drug car-tells, and block people from leaving. But it will likely
cause them to turn to China or Russia for aid. Countries that
don't care if we have immigration or drug problems.

Trumps quick fixes only increase our problems. Today's problems
are too complex, going after one thing often causes other problems,
and I doubt if Trump cares as long as it looks good in the short run.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 03, 2019, 12:49:01 pm
Is president Trump suffering from early symptoms of dementia? During
a speech he made yesterday he said his father was born in Germany 
twice, but his father was born in New York. It was his grandfather
who was born in germany. Yes it could be a slip of the tongue, but
why didn't he correct it and then repeat it? Also during the same
speech he was unable to say the word "origin". Instead it came out
"oranges". This happened twice until he managed to say it correctly.
It seems whenever Trump is under stress his mental faculties starts
to fail. We can hope this doesn't happen during a crisis where stresses
can peak for anyone.

Later he said " I am a normal person" two or three times, even
though no one tried to say he wasn't. This too can be an indication of
a lack of mental confidence, and worry of ones own thoughts.

Hopefully the people around him and the GOP isn't covering up problems
Trump may be having. Several time throughout the years both parties
have covered up health issues of presidents. Most were only physical
and not mental. Many people suffer dementia by their 70's and many
do not. Could this be why he comes up with crazy ideas that hurt his
voters, and or the country? We can only hope Trump is as well as his
people claim.

President Trump said he wanted the special counsels report released
to the public. Then added if the attorney general approved it. Of
course Trump knew Barr wouldn't agree with any coverup reported
by the special counsel. That's why Trump nominated him, and I am
sure that's why the GOP controlled senate made him the AG. Not to
go after the truth, but to protect Trump their King.

At first the GOP said they wanted the report released, but now since
the AG basically said Trump wasn't guilty they want to hide the
report and Trump does as well.  So when the oversight committee
voted to  subpoena the AG to release the whole report, they are
wanting to play politics by saying the report by their partisan AG is
all anyone needs, and should be believed.

The GOP, and Trump can claim it's the democrats not wanting to
accept the Ag's report, but the public wants to see it as written.
Not a bunch of blacked out pages claiming to protect the
innocent, or to follow the law.  Trump and his cronies may
succeed in hiding the report, but I think the public will
punish the GOP and Trump if it's not released.

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www.msnbc.com
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 04, 2019, 12:54:40 pm
President Trump is claiming he has given over 90 billion dollars to
Puerto Rico, our island territory in the Caribbean. When in fact
they have only received a little over 12 billion dollars in aid. Why
is Trump being so dishonest about the aid? The people who live
on this island are American citizens. just as those who live in
Texas or Florida, or any other state of the Union. The only thing
is they can't vote for president. Trump has a record of not liking
any one who didn't vote for him. Especially California. The people
of Puerto Rico deserve the aid to help them recover from the
hurricanes of almost 2 years ago. Yet Trump wants to stop the
the aid that is desperately needed. I think it's because they are
Hispanic which aren't Lilly white.  People who Trump, and some
of his supporters look down on with disdain.

Is Trumps attorney general a political hack? A news report claims
the special counsel took time to prepare summary's that could
be released to the public and congress. Yet the AG claims he has
to go through the report to black out (cover up) information
that he claims is required to protect innocents and to follow
the law. Based on his interpretation of the law of course. We
can only wonder who the innocents are, he is wanting to
protect. Could it be they are people Trump wants protected?

It is interesting that if Trump was so innocent, why doesn't
the AG put out more than just a few words leading the public
to believe Trump isn't guilty. There is likely a lot  of  information
that shows how inept Trump and his people are even if they
aren't guilty under the law. Also Barr has the opinion that a
president can do no wrong under the law, and can only be
impeached while in office.

The house of representatives has told the IRS to send them
six years of Trumps tax returns, as well as those related to
his businesses. Trump is still claiming his taxes are under
audit, and he would be willing to release them afterwards.
This tired old excuse isn't going to work as the IRS is
required by law to release them to the chairman of the
committee requiring them. Trump is saying he would
fight this release. You can be sure if a regular citizen
said no they would be tossed in jail or fined. Yet Trump
will be allowed to appeal this all the way to the supreme
court. So what is Trump so scared of? His supporters could
care less what he does wrong, legal or not.

He continues to hide documents that congress has asked
for, claiming presidential privileged. This  leads thinking
 people to feel he is covering up information of wrong
doing, like pay for play deals with other countries, and
big businesses here, and around the world. Trump said
when he ran for office he would stop all the lobbying, but
there is more lobbyists than ever now, and many of
them visit the white house.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 05, 2019, 12:50:28 pm
President Trump claims businesses are coming back to the country.
In fact more are leaving. He never admits that factories are becoming
more automated and require fewer workers. This is why we need more
job training. The factory days of past years will not return, in spite of 
anything Trump tells his supporters. I hope people realize this sooner 
than later.

President Trump said he decided to not close the border with Mexico
because they are stopping immigrants at their southern border. So
is this another lie?  Or did they really start stopping more immigrants?
Only time will tell, because Trump lies too much to believe
anything he says.

Trump then said he would put a 25% tariff on cars made in Mexico
if they don't stop most of the drug traffic. He claimed this would
make the government money. Yes it would, but only from American
tax payers. Not from Mexico.

Trump is traveling to California to look at a 1 1/2 mile section of his
wall or fence. It's rather impressive or perhaps imposing at 30 feet
tall. I wonder how deep it's set in the ground? Will it hold up to  strong
winds or storms? How ever this section didn't require any land grab as
it only replaced a barbed wire fence. If it took this long to put up
1 1/2 mile section, it will take years to fence the border with Mexico.
But I am sure Trump will point and brag about it. I wonder how often
the border patrol will have to repair it. A battery operated saw will cut
a opening in it with little or no trouble.
 
Trump also claimed it's his work that created the economy we have today.
This is another lie, because he hasn't done anything to help the economy.
If anything he has slowed it. The economy started growing under the
Obama administration. Trump is still benefiting from that. As usual
Trump like other politicians always want to claim things that are good.
Trump was running down the growing economy under Obama. Then
when he won it turned into a great growth due to him alone.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 06, 2019, 12:34:50 pm
President Trump stood befor the high fence in California and
said it was his wall. When in fact if was started by Obama.
Trump will tell any lie that he thinks will help him.

Even the GOP lies for the president. They try to say the 
democrats investigation of Trump and his cronies are
un-American and only to get rid of a man they don't
like. They fear if Trump is removed they will loose his
supporters, and their power, and control of the
government.

When President Trump was running to be president he stood
on his podium and shouted that H Clinton should be put in
jail for using a private server for email. Saying she wasn't
protecting our countries secrets.

Now that Trump is president it's his responsibility to keep our
countries secrets. Yet he uses a unsecured cellphone to talk
to his friends and who knows who else. We know Trump loves
to bragg about what he knows, and what he can do.  He gives
security clearance to friends and family. Not just low security
but top security. Not only can foreign spies listen to his calls,
they can likely bribe and blackmail his friends to reveal secrets.
Because at least 25 people who he gave clearance to, were
declared by the FBI not to be trusted to keep our secrets.

Not only should Trump be impeached, hes should be jailed for
the same reason he said H Clinton should be. Even those in
his family use private emails to talk about government plans
and other secrets. So according to Trump during his campaign   
he and his family should be jailed. This doesn't even include
how low the security is at his so called winter White House
in Florida. Where anyone with a pocket full of money,
(including foreign spies) can walk in and talk to most
anyone in Trumps administration.

It's time the democrats went after everyone in Trumps
administration. To make sure they are following the law and
not Trumps law. They also need to hold the GOP accountable
for their actions, and support of Trump and his super rich
friends.

The GOP and the federalist society wish to take us back to a
time where only white wealthy men run the government.
This is why they are trying to load the courts with hard line
conservative. They don't want the government to be
involved with caring for the poor or minorities. They want
this to be handled by the private sector or by law enforcement
to put people and children  in work houses. To jail them
if they refuse to work.

They don't want their rich friends to be forced to help people
they consider to be lazy good for nothings and sick due to
bad habits. This was how many wealthy people felt when
the country was created, and the GOP leadership want to
return to it. They would never openly admit this, but
it's in the heart of the far right.

I am sure most people reading this would say I am over
reacting, but the GOP is slowly moving toward the past
and by the time the public understand it we may end up
in another civil war. It's unfortunate, but many people
who follow the far right have been convinced this is
the right thing to do. Because they are told it's to save
the country and their way of life.

We can hope the people will stand up for the country
first, but I fear most listen to the loudest voices and
not the truth or the facts.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 07, 2019, 01:10:26 pm
President Trump talked to a GOP Jewish organization yesterday.
It likely had a bunch of paid Trump supporters mixed in with them.
He got boo's of disapproval when he mentioned the congress woman
who didn't approve of the leader of Israel. She has received a death
threat because she didn't agree with Trump actions there, or because
of her religion. By the way the man who made the threat was a
proud far right Trump supporter. Of course Trump won't actually
say this was okay, but he implies it by putting the blame on the
congress woman.

This is Trump doing his best to  split off Jewish votes from democrats
to the GOP. At this time Jewish support  is over 70% for democrats.
Trump is stuck at 43% or less in the polls so he will do all he can
to change that. He will lie and cheat, no matter who it hurts.

Several years ago Trump opened a golf course in Puerto Rico. He
borrowed 23 million from a Puerto Rican bank. Then when the
golf course resort failed he left without repaying the loan. This is
just one of Trumps acts where he cheated banks out of money. In this
case the Americans in Puerto Rico had to repay the loan with higher
taxes. With Trumps record of  lies and cheats I find it hard to
understand why he has so much support. It seems they don't want
to believe Trump is anything but a great man.

Trump is the first president in many years to  not have ever had
a majority of national support. His maximum was 47% right after
his inauguration. Since then it has ranged from 37% to 44%.
Most other presidents saw over 60% during their time in office.
If this support of Trump stays the same, he will have little chance
of winning another term in 2020.

Trump called the creater of the The Green New deal a bar tender.
Well to me Trump is a big fat liar. Most bar tenders are good hard
working people which Trump is not. The GOP and Trump are doing
all they can to run down anything that works to save our
environment. They know it will cost big  business and the rich money.
Money the super rich do not want to loose. So they make fun of it and
and do all they can to scare the public from supporting it. It's the same
with health care and other programs that will help the middle class
grow and cause the super rich to decline.

The GOP is working hard to limit voting in the 2020 election.
They know if they don't they will loose big. The GOP has always
been an minority party which depends on people not getting out
to vote. They use every trick and even illegal ideas to keep the
people from casting a ballot. It is true the democrats have been
guilty of similar actions, but not for many years. What is needed is
to get big money out of politics and have term limits. Career politicians
are bad news no matter which party they claim to follow. It's human
nature to feel indispensable, and will do bad things to keep power.

The GOP even hired security guards to stand around the entrance of
a voting center. They did this to intimidate the poor and minorities
to keep them from voting. People who generally vote for democrats.
At the time the voting rights law was strong enough to punish the
GOP over this discussing action. So it's no wonder the GOP has worked
to limit or get rid of the voting rights law.

The GOP leader of the senate, who has been in office for almost 40 years
has done many things to hurt our democracy. His support of big business
and the riches Americans is at the base of his work. He will do anything
to cut the size of government, and reduce taxes on the rich. He has
worked hard to put hard line conservative judges in the federal courts,
wanting them to take rights and aid from the poor and minorities. This
one man alone is a good reason to have term limits.

You can find out more at the following links.
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www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 08, 2019, 01:03:16 pm
The Vice President is a religious radical, and I am sure Trump
chose him thinking he would help him get more Evangelical
votes. This may be true, but his anti homosexual stand and
anti abortion thinking turns many against Trump. When Trump
ran for office he claimed he would stand up for the LGBTQ
people, but he has not. One candidate told the VP that his
homosexuality was his creators decision and not his own. This
was a great comeback, but doubt if it had any effect on the VP.

Unfortunately many in the GOP feel homosexuality
is a learned choice, and not a physiological condition.
So it continues to be a battle for many in the LGBTQ
community. I doubt most in the GOP leadership even
care, and some are likely gay themselves, but they use
the argument to get more votes.

President Trump is apparently scared that the democrats will get
to see his tax returns. We can only guess why he would worry so
much over his taxes. I think he is banking on the Supreme court
to save him. He claims it's because he is under audit. This is no
excuse, but Trump hangs on to it. I am sure if the IRS publicly
said it makes no difference, Trump would come up with another
excuse.

Trump may be placing his re election hopes on getting a big Jewish
vote. Apparently he is very popular in Israel because of his actions
Like moving our embassy to Jerusalem, and declaring the Golam
heights a part of Israel. These acts are popular there, but will it
change Jewish minds about voting for Trump?  He may pick up
some votes, but I doubt if it will cause them to forget what
Trump says when he defends the far right. People who
generally hate the Jews.

There has a been surge of people seeking immigration to the
United states along the Mexican border. This is due to Trump
and unrest in central America. Trump of course is pointing to
it as a invasion, and must be stopped. Well it's mostly due to
Trumps lack of understanding, when it comes to the needs of
people. We should be working to help Central American countries
grow, and become more prospers. Much as we did in Europe
after WW2. Instead Trump is making it worse with his anti
immigration policies and his decisions to cut aid there.

Trump is trying to dehumanize these people, and at what point
will he decide to use force to prevent them from entering our
country. Will Trumps supporters approve killing people and
their children when they try to  cross our boarder? This may
seem implausible, but all it takes is a border guard who
thinks lethal force will make Trump happy. If not a guard
but some of Trumps supporters may decide they need to
do the same. This is why the kind of rhetoric Trump uses
is dangerous. Using fear and generating hate should be
illegal even if said by a president.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 09, 2019, 01:14:09 pm
President Trumps Attorney General was answering and
dodging questions in a hearing this morning. As usual
the GOP members weren't asking any question that might
be embarrassing to the AG or their King Trump. 

The democrats however were after the truth about the
special counsels report. The AG did not want to say anything
about might embarrass Trump. He dodged the question that asked
if Trump had seen the report or not. All he had to say was Yes
or No, but he just changed the subject. So it's likely Trump has
seen the report or at least Trumps lawyers. He was asked why
the department of justice was trying to  kill the ACA, but he
only said perhaps his office wouldn't be successful if it was such
a bad thing. He would not even recognize the damage to millions
of people if the ACA was killed. It seems like the AG, Trump and
the rest of the GOP, care little for peoples health care, or coverage
for pre-existing conditions. He reminded the committee that Trump
had a better health care plan he would release after the 2020
election. Now isn't that interesting. If re-elected Trump will
forget about it I am sure.

Trump has been purging the people responsible for border
protection. It's odd because those he is getting rid of were
being tough on immigrants. It appears Trump was mad
because they wouldn't defy the law and rulings by the
courts. Just more proof that Trump doesn't care about
the law if it gets in his way.

Trump said that Obama was separating children at the border.
This was true, but only for children who were in danger of
harm. Especially if their parent or guardian was a drug dealer
or some other criminal other than being guilty of crossing
the border. Just Trump wanting to mislead the media and
the public to  cover his own dastardly deeds.

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www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 10, 2019, 01:04:05 pm
It appears the Trump administration is going to fight the release
of Trumps tax returns. The law says the IRS shall release the
tax returns of any individual when requested by the "ways and
means committee." Yet Trumps lawyers are trying to say the
the word "Shall" doesn't really mean one has to obey, or
they don't have a good enough excuse for wanting Trumps
tax returns. I imagine Trump will run this all the way to the
supreme court. There is no good reason for them to even
accept the case, unless they just want to protect Trump.

President Trump currently has 10 acting leaders of government
agencies. It appears Trump wants to avoid the normal process
of approval by the Senate, by just putting people in power by
saying they are acting. It appears Trump is having trouble finding
good people who will lie and disregard the law when he wants
them to. So by just having acting leaders he can change them
at his every whim. Trump took an oath to defend the country,
and it's laws, but he only agrees with our laws and the
constitution wihen it suits him. Oddly enough the law and
order party (GOP) goes along with this.

The attorney general appears to be wanting to investigate the
FBI for trying to keep Trump from being elected. This to me is
very strange as if anything they helped Trump in his election.
They had H Clinton and Trump both under investigation, but
only mentioned Clinton publicly. This sounds like the AG
playing politics which is very improper. It's his job to defend
the people not the GOP or Trump.

What the GOP and Trump are calling improper and spying
was the FBI trying to see what involvement Trump and his
campaign had with Russia. It is a fact that Russia did try to
help Trump get elected. Even if Trumps ego wants to deny
it. Trump yet today still wants to blaim the Clinton's for the
countries problems.  He apparently feels his followers want
to hear this from him.

I often wonder why people continue to support Trump even
when he does things that hurt them. It's possible they don't
want to admit they made a mistake, even to themselves..
Just like Trump who won't admit any mistakes.

President Trump is starting to call the Democrats guilty of Treason
for being involved in a illegal removal of the president. This with the
AG's help could lead to an attempt to remove members of
of the Democratic party from congress. Even the GOP is making
similar accusations. I think the GOP and Trump are stepping very
close to political quicksand that could drag them both out of office.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 11, 2019, 01:04:38 pm
The house of representatives is voting to remove Trumps
ban on Muslims entering our country. As if they are all out
to kill people. This is nothing but religious discrimination by
Trump. If anything this will cause terrorist acts, not prevent
them. Muslim communities here in the United States work to
prevent terrorism, but discrimination will likely cause
them to not say anything when they see hate building in
their community. It's just another one of Trumps quick
fixes that does more harm than good.

The creator of Wikileaks was arrested in England. There
he was found guilty of breaking bail. The United States
wants to extradite him with charges of computer hacking
and others. So far Trump has been quiet about this. One
might wonder what Trump might do. During his campaign
Trump spoke highly of Wikileaks. So is it possible Trump
might decide to pardon him? After all Trump likely saw him
as a good guy exposing H Clinton of wrong doing. Only
time will tell. Trump just claimed he doesn't know anything
about Wikileaks. Why should we be surprised, it's just
another one of his many lies.

Elisabeth Warren is saying she would want to see a tax
on corporations making over 100 million a year, over and
above any taxes they may already pay. This tax would be
7% which would likely generate a Trillion dollars over 10
year. Of course we can expect some would be claiming
only 99 million in profits if passed. As usual the GOP is
feeling sorry for the poor big businesses affected by
such a tax, and claim the bad old democrats are
against business and their profits. Even though many
of them pay little if any tax at all.

The GOP brainwashes young college students into
thinking the GOP only wants to protect the country
and peoples rights by reducing the size of government.
This tired old refrain has a bit of truth in it, but turning
the country over to private enterprise alone will put
the public at risk. History has shown the rich look
at themselves as being job creators and not taking
advantage of the public at large. Yet as people grow
richer they become addicted to making money. Then
they care little for those around them. They even
think they are helping their fellow man by providing
services which they place great value on. Using this
as an excuse to raise prices, and not based on it's cost.

Only government can keep big businesses from taking
advantage of the public at large. Businesses must be
regulated to prevent greed and mistreatment of workers.
Care must also be taken to  prevent the reverse as
over regulation can prevent businesses from
making a profit. Only government can determine
the balance. Free enterprise only works if there
is fair competition. Big businesses try to prevent
competition by lobbying the government to make
laws giving them an advantage. This is why we
need strong laws to prevent such activities.

Unfortunately the GOP which is largely controlled
by big business fights to make it harder for
small businesses to survive. The GOP leaders
claims  they care about the little guy, but it's
just a lie. All they care about is money and
power. I am not saying we should get rid of the
GOP, because single party control is bad for the
country. It's the only way to preven extreems

The big problem in this country is a large percentage
of the people don't take the time to vote or even
want to care how the government is run. They wait
till their needs require them to care about the
government. But often this can be too late,
and it takes a lot of work to  bring things back
into balance, since by then many laws exist that
protect the bad guys.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
pres
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 12, 2019, 01:00:34 pm
The mayor of South Bend, Indiana who is running
as a democrat for president has been telling the Vice
president he only has a problem with his policies and
not his religion, when the VP tries to say he the mayor
is running down his religion instead. The mayor is a
homosexual, and we know the VP feels homosexuals
are sinners who are that way by choice and not born
that way.

It seems Trump, the VP, and other evangelicals feel the
LBGTQ's should be spurned and their ways made illegal.
Some evangelicals and the VP feel Trump is a gift  from
GOD.  The last thing we need is people who want to put
religion in government. Especially those who use religion
to deny people of their rights.

President Trump wanted ICE to bus immigrants into
sanctuary cities to punish the cities. ICE told Trump it
would be illegal to do so, and refused to do it.
Trump lies when he claims these cities are protecting
criminals. From the time he started his campaign he
has tried to call Latino immigrants criminals, and
to demean anyone who isn't Lilly white. Using people
who can't defend themselves as political pawns is
discussing, even for Trump.

President Trumps sister filed her resignation as judge
of the federal court, apparently when she found out
she was being investigated by a ethics panel. Perhaps
not, but it seems it has to do with tax issues. Her
resignation stopped the investigation. There are
reports the Trump family has had income tax problems
over the years. Perhaps this is why president Trump
is fighting so hard to keep his taxes a secret.

The Secretary of the Treasury is trying to help
Trump, and may find his self indicted for breaking
the law. Perhaps even their lawyers may find them
selves in trouble. This is because the chairman
of the "Ways and Means committee" has a legal right 
to see Trumps tax returns, and trying to  prevent him
from getting them is a crime punishable by up to 5
years in jail and a $10,000 fine. Of course with
the Justice department, and the AG  in his pocket
Trump might even keep his taxes secret.

The GOP claims they care about children, and want
to stop abortion. Yet they cut programs that helps
kids. Like medicate, child care, early education, and
other programs that help needy families. They
don't even care about prenatal care that  helps
the unborn to start a healthy life.

It seems with the creator of Wikileaks being
extradited to the united states puts Trump in a
bind. The GOP can't just ignore a man who is likely
guilty of helping the Russians, and possibly
helping to break into government computers.
I am sure Trump would like to greet him
with a hand shake, but it could make him
look bad. He may even say things in court
that could hurt Trump.   

Somehow I doubt if Trumps supporters would
even care one way or the other. Unless he
caused trouble for Trump. Otherwise they
probably would cheer if Trump  brought
him to a rally.

Sometimes I wonder if Trumps supporters 
actually realize that he is just using them.
Because he doesn't care for those who
didn't vote for him. He promised to lower
drug prices, and hasn't. He promised to
 lower health costs, and hasn't. Then lies
to cover it by saying the ACA is the
problem. He lies to his supporters
so they will vote for him, not to help
them unless they are multi millionaires
or billionaires who give him lots of money.
All Trump wants to do is get rid of Obama's
policies, be a big shot, and be re elected
so he can make more money for himself.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on April 13, 2019, 11:38:22 am
Think those tax cuts Trump gave the American people really helped you out? Think again.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/politics/tax-reform-winners-and-losers/index.html

The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.  :'(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 13, 2019, 01:13:24 pm
President Trump doesn't hate all Muslims, only those who don't
have a lot of money. He loves Saudi Arabia which is a very
rich Muslim country that is strict in its religious beliefs.

Trump has been calling a congress woman who is a Muslim
down, claiming she supported the attack on 911. This is a
out of context claim that Trump continues to promote. Even
though she has apologized for any misunderstanding. She like
most Moslem's did not support the attack. Unfortunately a few
of Trump supporters threaten her life, and Trump apparently
doesn't care if he puts her life at risk.

President Trump is still threatening to bus immigrants to  cities
who wish to protect law abiding immigrants. Well the mayors
of these cities are saying bring them on. They are willing to
accept immigrants, even if Trump isn't. I understand the large
numbers of immigrants showing up at the border is driving
Trump crazy, because thought his disgusting treatment of
immigrants would stop the flow.

Trumps supporter should understand this business with
immigrants is Trump wanting to  get re elected. He
doesn't care about people, just himself. If he really
cared about stopping or slowing immigration he would
be working with the countries they are fleeing. Working
to make changes that would give people a reason to
stay and not come to the united states.

But no, that is what Obama was trying to do and
Trump hates anything that Obama had his hands on.
So instead of going to the source of the problem he
wants to build a wall that will do little to solve
anything.

President Trump told border security to turn immigrants back
even if it's against the law. Trump said he is willing to pardon
people who do his bidding even if it's illegal. Using the power
of the pardon to break the law is a impeachable offense. How
many times will Trumps supporters stand behind a man who
cares nothing for the law or the constitution if it gets in his
way?

I don't think Trumps supporters want an autocrat in the white
house, but that is what Trump wants to be. He is using fear and
hate to control people who support him. He knows many people
fear change, and as the country becomes more diverse, change
is inevitable. Someone like Trump may slow it, but he can only
delay it. Unfortunately many people will be hurt in the process.

The Democrats should start the impeachment process, yes the
puppets in the Senate won't remove Trump, but the process will
show the American public things the Trump administration wants
to hide. His new Attorney General is helping Trump by being a
fixer for him. The AG is supposed to be for the people,  not  to
do the bidding of the president. If Trump feels he has been
wronged he can go to the police and report it just as any
other citizen can. It's not the job of the AG to do investigations
for him.

The AG's looking into the FBI's investigation of Trump's
campaigns connections to Russia is inappropriate as it was
settled already. If the AG goes after Trumps opponents on
Trumps orders, we will be loosing our rights to Trump, a
man who wants to be dictator. Just like Putin of Russia, or
the communist leader of China. Both who can have their
opponents put in prison.

Trumps supporters may think this would only be people like
H. Clinton or some other democrat, but he could do the same
to any citizen if he felt they might cause his down fall. Including
a person  who may have supported him.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 14, 2019, 12:58:15 pm
Some of president Trumps policies and actions hurt those who
voted for him. We can only wonder how long they will continue
to support him? Even if they go broke, loose health care, pay
higher taxes, and even loose their jobs. Seems some people
 just can't admit they were  wrong. Even to themselves. In
some cases it's possible they really fear the government will
take what's theirs and give it to those who don't deserve it.
So the vote for people who claim they won't help the
undeserving.

President Trumps new Attorney General is acting like Trumps
personal attorney. Trump and Barr deny it of course. Bar was
against the special counsels report before he ever saw it. So
it's no wander he would try to say Trump is innocent immediately
after it's release to him. Now Barr is trying to say the FBI and
Obama administration may have spied on the Trump campaign.
This was settled in 2017, but Trump still claims he was spied on
so Barr is being a good puppet, and let's Trump tell him what
to do. Even though it's unconstitutional.

With an attorney general doing Trumps bidding, how can we
trust the AG to not redact everything that Trump wants hidden.
He can claim the blacked out pages are lawfully redacted unless
a federal judge forces him to unredact them. This could take
months if not years. Because Trump largely controls the justest
system of the government. It may stay almost completely 
redacted until a democrat wins the white house. Even then
a judge may have to release  much of it. Of course Barr
may not hide that much, but we will have to wait and see.

As long as the GOP allows it Trump and do just about anything
he wants till the next election. We can only wonder what may
happen if he looses. Will he step down, or will he try to  contest
the election with the help of the supreme court? We can hope
if Trump looses, it's by a large margin, or I think Trump will
try to fight it, claiming it was rigged against him.

Just as in 2016 we can expect Trump to play the same game
running for re-election in 2020 with the news media. He will
say or do outrages things to get on the news every night.
The news media will feel obligated to find faults with his
opponents if they find fault with Trump. So we will end
up hearing a lot of bad things about his opponents. This
saves Trumps hundreds of millions in election advertising.

If the democrats don't start shouting to the rafters, the GOP
will out shout them. The public has a habit of listening to the
loudest voice, so when the far right controlled GOP accuses
a democrat unfairly they should stand as one against it. The
GOP will drive a wedge in any crack to split them anyway they
can.

Some may feel I am a democrat, but I vote as a Independent.
Both parties have their faults, it's just that the GOP has allowed
the far right to control their party. This had turned them away
from conservatism to nationalism. I and many other people who
voted for the GOP have become Independents because they can't
support what the GOP has become.

Here we go again, the democrats are giving the IRS more time
to release Trumps returns. Seems the democrats have no backbone.
They need to stand firm and make the GOP follow the law.  They
should put those trying to prevent the release of Trumps taxes
in jail by claiming they are in contempt of congress.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org







Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 15, 2019, 01:14:40 pm
Trump's attorney general is saying he expects to release the special counsels
report this coming Thursday. Only time will tell as he could delay it even
further if he wants. We won't know how much of the report the AG will
hide. How much for the president or the law? Who can say? I think
it's interesting that the AG is timing the release during the Easter
congressional holiday, which runs for 2 weeks.

I wonder if Barr will redact the section he used to decide Trump was
innocent? If he does it will continue to cause trouble for him and
the president. He must prove his decision wasn't political, or the
public will demand to see the entire report.

President Trump continue to run down congress woman Omar, claiming
she should resign due to her comments about 911. If Trump would clean 
out his ears he would know she did not support the attack on 911. Instead
he is wanting to play politics with a Moslem woman of color. If anyone
was responsible for the 911 attack it was Saudi Arabia. A Moslem
country Trump loves, because of all the money they could loan him
and his family.

People should know after 911 Trump made a claim of damage to property
he owned, when there was none. To me this is much worse than anything
Congress woman Omar said. Improperly asking for money that was intended
to help those who were harmed by the attack is disgusting. It seems people
with money get by with things a regular person would go to jail for.

Besides it's not the business of the president to tell a member of
congress they should resign. That is the business of congress not
the president. If anything Trump should resign for breaking his
oath of office, and his corruption of the presidency.

Unfortunately Trump continues to convince the members
of the GOP that he is making the country great again. Trump
knows how to manipulate people by playing to their fears and
and self interest. People that truly know Trump know he is a
lying con artist with no morals at all. People should remember
when he had a wife at home caring for a baby, he was out having
sex with another woman. I find it hard  to see why any decent
minded person would ever consider voting for the cad.

The president is supposed to set a good example to the nation,
not play politics with peoples lives or make judgments of others.
He should be trying to see that the people are treated fairly, and
not taken advantage of. Instead this president works to convince
his supporters he is doing a good job when he is actually cheating
us all, and many of those he appoints try to as well.

He and his so called best people are proof that most of the rich
only look out for themselves. Unfortunately they get worse when
they gain political power. This is why it's a bad idea to put any
very rich person in government.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 16, 2019, 01:03:44 pm
The white house is showing concern about the release of the
special counsels report. I will be surprised if 20% of it is
readable. Trump's attorney general has already said much
of it will be redacted.  Yet several of the white house employees
are worried that if their statements are revealed in the report
Trump will be enraged and fire them. Perhaps it's these innocents
Barr said he would protect.

Trump has hired a group of lawyers who's job it is to hide his
finances. Be they tax returns or business practices.  So far 
they are using the excuse the democrats should not be allowed
to have access, because it's just political, without any legal need.

It's doubtful any judge will buy this excuse, but we can be sure
they will  try to take it all the way to the supreme court. I don't
see why the supreme court would even look at it. Their job is
to protect the constitution, not the president. Trump, however
seems to  think the supreme court is in his pocket after putting
two people he likely thinks will support him on the court. 

It appears Trump will have a primary opponent to deal with
next year. A republican from the northeast is running against
him for the nomination. It's not likely Trump has anything to
worry about, but it will detract him a bit.

During the fire that was burning the Notre Dame Cathedral, Trump
was true to form in his comments about the fire. Trying to blame
the french for not using air drops to stop the fire. As usual he
showed his ignorance as a drop of tons of water would have likely
knocked the building down, and possibly spread the fire. Also the
water mass would have been moving forward at over 200 mph.
Dropping water on a forest is a lot different. Besides those drops
are use to prevent fire spreading, not to  quench it.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 17, 2019, 12:09:51 pm
I feel the democrats and those running for presidentshould do more to
defend Moslems and other minorities. Especially those members of
congress Trump attacks. These people put alot at risk when they stand
up agains a president supported by radical groups. They are much
braver and patriotic than Trump ever will be. Trump doesn't even
have the nerve to personally fire anyone. If you think his tv show,
 "The Apprentist" proved him to be a great buisnessman and person
of strenght, forget it. That was a fantasy with Trump only acting
the part.

President Trump likes to point to 911 when he talks about Moslems, yet
most of what he says are lies. During a debate when he was running for
president he claimed he lost many friends when the twin towers fell. Yet
there is no record of him attending even one funeral. When friends die
the family often asks  friends to be pall bearers, so where was our so
called great president? Using the 911 attack on American to further his
campaign with filthy lies shows how imoral Trump really is. It's not likely
Trump has any personal friends, much less those who died in 911. Oh I
am sure he has many fair weather friends, but how many would stand
by him if he lost all his money?

I watched the TV coverage of the 911 attack and never heard anything
about thousands of Moslems cheering as the towers fell. There was one
report of a group of Moslems on a building top having a party, but that
was only a dozen or so, not thousands like Trump claimed.

Trumps attorney general has a record of misleading congress and the
public when he feels he should. In 1989 a report was in the news
saying the FBI was given the right to go after leaders of other countries,
and basically kidnap them. When asked, the then deputy attorney
general Barr told Congress misleading statements about this. Apparently
tryint to protect president Bush. It was later during the Clinton administration
the truth was revealed. So when Barr redacts the special counsels report,
how will we know wither Barr is protecting Trump or not? He wouldn't
say when asked if he had showed the report to the white house. 

It is interewsting that Trump is having a counter report prepared when
he has claimed the special counsel declared him innocent. It would seem if
he feels the report was favorable, what is he afraid of? With Trumps record
of lies, how can we believe any report he has made defending himself.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on April 18, 2019, 11:48:50 am
THE MUELLER REPORT IS OUT!  :o

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html

Live updates:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/robert-mueller-report-public/index.html


Quote
"If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

Even though Mueller's investigation may (or may not) be done, Congress still has the power to investigate further.
Quote
"With respect to whether the President can be found to have obstructed justice by exercising his powers under Article II of the Constitution, we concluded that Congress has the authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice."

Quote
"Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the (Trump) campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in the election interference activities," the report said.

Quote
"The Russian contacts consisted of business connections, offers of assistance to the campaign, invitations for candidate Trump and Putin to meet in person, invitations for campaign officials and representatives of the Russian government to meet, and policy positions seeking improved US-Russian relations," Mueller wrote in the report.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 18, 2019, 12:25:38 pm
Even though Trump claims the special counsel was only
created due the the Democrats. People should remember
was created when the GOP held both houses of congress.
So there isn't any way the special counsels investigation
could have been started without the GOP wanting it too.

Well now we know Trump's attorney general is there to
defend Trump, and not the people of this country. He said
the president was so frustrated and angry over the politics,
he made mistakes. Well bless Trumps heart. If he couldn't
handle the pressure he should have stayed home. Also the
AG tried to say there was no crime. Well the special
counsels report wasn't to put Trump in jail, so to speak.
It was to find out how the Russians got involve with his
election, and to see if he was guilty of a coverups. It's
up to  congress to take it from there. Yet the AG wants
to intervene in Trump's behalf.

The AG said the special counsel couldn't find intent to
commit a crime. Well Trump's lawyers wouldn't let
him testify so the special counsel could tell if Trump
meant what he said. Answering questions via lawyers
makes it impossible to see anyone intent. In the report
the special counsels admits they had to give up. This
made it  almost impossible to clear or charge the
president of guilt. Though they would have l liked to
do so. So it should go to congress to decide.

I have to admit there is more of the report than I
expected shown. We still don't know if the summaries
made by the special counsels have been included
or not.

There is too much about the report for me to relate here
so you should go read it for your self. The links at the b bottom
of my post will lead you to more information about it.

Turns out the white house had the report on Tuesday.
Apparently to give Trump's lawyers a chance to create
a rebuttal to the report.

One of Trumps lawyers said Trump didn't ask anyone to lie
because he doesn't think people should lie. This is from
Trump? A man who has lied over 9000 times since becoming
president. This shows how Trump corrupts virtually
everyone who works for him.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 19, 2019, 12:03:32 pm
President Trump is declaring he has been cleared of any wrong doing, yet
the special counsel report does not clear Trump at all. It says they
couldn't indict Trump due to department of justest policy, so it is
left up to congress to decide based on the evidence that would likely
convict Trump in a court of law. If Trump isn't impeached or looses
the 2020 election he could be hauled into court and charged. Only
time will tell.

The GOP senate leader has basically dared the democrats to impeach
Trump, because they, the GOP won't convict him. The AG was asked
to go to court for a release of grand jury information, but he
refused knowing it would take an impeachment to get a judge to
release it otherwise. I bet he figures they won't impeach due to
the GOP's control of the senate.

According to the report those in the white house prevented Trump
from removing the special counsel, and doing other things that
would have caused him a lot of trouble. Trump even asked
his people to illegally create records that would cover his lies.
When the special counsel sent Trump questions he claimed he
 wasn't able to remember facts well enough to answer over
30 of the questions. This from a man who claimed he has a
very sharp mind. It's more likely he didn't want to answer
them. The special counsel should have subpoenaed him
to speak before a grand jury. Even if it had taking a lot of
time running through the courts to get it done.

Trump likes to brag about how well he gets along with the
leaders of Russia, China, and North Korea. The reason is
 because they like any leader they can manipulate such as
Trump. Putin called Trump a clown in 2015. Trump lied when
he said Putin bragged on him at the time.

Trump has no backbone when he is around strong leaders,
so he brags on them and submits to their will when face to face.

Trump wants his followers to think he is a strong leader,
but he is nothing  but a mouse when confronted by leaders
of other countries. I first noticed this when he met the
president of Mexico during his campaign. So quiet and
meek until he was back in a rally where he was again putting
on a show of strength. His show of strength only comes out
when he with supporters and knows his bodyguards are near.
He doesn't even have the nerve to personally fire anyone.


The strange thing is the special counsel decided Trumps family
wasn't smart enough to be guilty of any crime of conspiracy
or coverup. This makes me wonder if the special counsel was
pressured into leaving them alone. Of course they may be under
investigation by another district. Say New York. Which may have
more jurisdiction. The special counsel was limited by the GOP for
a unknown reason. Perhaps even political.

The GOP want to end any investigation of Trump and family because
it has cost tax payers too much already. This seems odd to me as
they didn't mind spending millions investigating H. Clinton time and
time again even though they knew there was no evidence of wrong
doing. It appears investigations are only okay when they the (GOP)
do them.

I am sure Trump and the GOP are feeling pretty good, but this that
feeling will likely sour with the investigations still going on in the
house of representatives. The GOP can no longer work to stop
hearings on Trumps transgressions.

When the media asked people what they think about things they
never seem to  ask follow up questions. I think the media should
ask people why they like this or that. People have a habit of just
wanting to say I  like something broadly without any real knowledge
of what they are talking about. They listen to advertising or their
friends instead of actually checking the facts. This is harmful to our
democracy as it allows people to use government for their own benefit.

Political rally's do little to tell us anything about the person running for
office. Unless that person is asked good meaningful questions. Trumps
ralley's are nothing but feel good meetings of his supporters as he
never takes questions. He expects them to accept his statements
as fact, and cares nothing for opposing views. People who only talk
and never listen learn nothing. Conversely those who never check
facts are doomed to learn little if anything at all.

You can find out more at the following links.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 20, 2019, 12:23:58 pm
The Mueller Report shows the Russians did try to get Trump elected
over H. Clinton. Trump has tried to  deny it, but he wanted them
to help him win. If we don't work to protect our voting system
from attacks they will try the same in 2020. Congress was working
to pass a law requiring all states to have a paper record of
peoples votes, but Trump went out of his way to stop it. Why would
 Trump try to stop any law that would help keep voting secure?
I really think he is expecting other countries to help him in 2020.

I heard a supporter of Trump say I know he is a terrible person,
but I like him because he is doing what he said he  would do.
I would ask this person if they would be fine with Trump if he
stole their car or burnt down their house, because he kept
his promises? People seem to have lost there belief in right
and wrong so long as it has some benefit to them selves and
beliefs, and as long as it only hurts others.

I think people feel so disconnected with government they don't see
a problem with a president breaking his oath of office, and using 
lies to get around laws and the constitution to benefit himself. So
tied to a belief or party so much they vote to hurt themselves
instead of voting for the good of the country. This is why we have
laws. People left to their own devices will operate on emotion
just as many Trump supporters do, even if it hurts others.
Our laws stops this so the rule of justice is preserved for all.
Ignoring laws will lead to anarchy, and the breaking down of
a fair society.

Trump is more than a terrible person, he is an immoral person
who has no empathy for others. He is an unpatriotic person who
does not believe laws or the constitution should apply to him.
Just look how he treats children of immigrants, or minorities
of color.

The special counsels report lays out much of what Trump really is,
a liar and a lawless cheat. It seems when people become connected
to  Trump they are corrupted, almost like a infection from a disease.
The sooner this president is removed from office the sooner the
healing process can begin.

If we don't stand up for good government who wilt? We can't depend
of politicians to do it. We must demand by voice and votes to  hold
those we elect accountable. No matter which party they wish to
claim, and no matter how innocent they claim to be. Ignoring the
facts will only leads to more corruption.

Lets all stand up for a fair democracy, and let the far right
white nationalist fade away. It's time we work to build a
diverse society where people of all colors and beliefs
can live in peace and harmony.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 21, 2019, 12:30:59 pm
To impeach or not to impeach, that seems to be the question
now. The GOP of course is saying Trump is a innocent babe 
who has been treated so terribly he should be left alone. Even
though when Clinton was guilty of lying about sex with a staff
member, the GOP said he should be impeached.  Well even
though that was a bad thing, it is nothing compared to the bad
things Trump has done. This shows the hypocrisy the GOP
plays time and time again. Instead they should hold Trump to
the same standards as they did President Clinton.

It seems the Democrats always worry about someone getting
mad at them. They should know most republicans are not going
to vote for them, no matter what they do. One thing people like
about the GOP is they can generally depend on what they are
going to do. Where the Democrats often swing in the wind. People
may not agree with someone, but they like it when they can
depend on them.

The Democrats have been backing off the impeachment of Trump
for the last two years. Trump was eligible for impeachment by the
middle of 2017. It's true they couldn't do anything until they
won the house of representative, because the GOP was covering
for Trump from the time he was elected. Yes it's true the GOP
controlled senate won't likely convict Trump, but the impeachment
process will expose Trump for what he is. So when the GOP
senate members run for re election in 2020 they will have to explain
why they didn't convict Trump, even though he should have been.

There is 20 GOP senators running in states that are moving toward
the Democrats in 2020, so by not convicting Trump they would likely
put their re election at risk.

It's time we put politics aside and impeach Trump. This is about
holding Trump accountable for his law breaking, power grabbing
actions. If we don't, whats to keep another president from doing
the same? I hope the Democrats stand up and do their job and
impeach Trump. Trump will bad mouth them no matter what
they do. So they should quit worrying and do the work they
were elected to do.

Yes we want them to work on health care and infrastructure,
but they can do both. There are dozens of committees that can
hold hearings, so they can work on many things at once. Just
because the media only covers a few of them doesn't mean
the others are sitting on their hands.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 22, 2019, 12:09:16 pm

President Trump may be shaking in his boots, but his voters
would never be allowed to see it. Trump claims he can't be
impeached, because according to him he hasn't broken any
law. Well I have news for Trump, impeachment can be done
even if a president hasn't broken a law. The GOP impeached
Clinton saying just the appearance of doing wrong was enough
to impeach.

The Democrats seem to feel impeachment might hurt them
in 2020, but it didn't hurt the GOP when they went after
president Clinton.  So they should do their job and start
impeachment. Trump and the GOP will cry foul, but they
will anyway. The conservative media is trying to say Trump
didn't do anything wrong accepting help from Russia.
This is rather strange as the GOP never liked Russia before.

Trump stood in front of a bunch of kids during the Easter
egg roll at the white house, and made a political speech.
Must have been good as even the apparently near sighted
Easter bunny who was wearing glasses clapped his paws.
Trump can claim it was he who has made the economy
great, but he has had little to do with it. The economy
was growing for years under Obama, and Trump is just
benefiting from that.

Trumps lawyers filed a law suit against the democrats, trying
to stop them from accessing his financial records. We can be
sure Trump will do all he can to prevent his finances, including
his tax returns from being exposed. I am sure he feels the
supreme court will protect him. Especially after putting two
conservatives justices on the court. One of which should be
impeached as he is just a political hack for the GOP.

Speaking of the supreme court, the court has accepted 3 cases
deciding wither the LGBTQ community is covered under the
civil rights law of 1965. The lower courts have been back and
forth with decisions to say it does protect them and some
say it doesn't. I would say to those in the LGBTQ community
to watch this closely. The one justest who stood up for them
was justice Kennedy, who resigned so Trump could put
another conservative on the court. I wouldn't be surprised
to see the supreme court vote against the rights of the LGBTQ
community 5 to 4. We know many in the GOP disapprove of
the LGBTQ just to gain votes. This includes Trump who lied
when he said he would support them.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 24, 2019, 12:50:59 pm
Trump and the GOP are giving social media a hard time because they 
feel conservatives are being targeted and followers removed. Well this
is nothing but politics as social media is only removing illicit accounts.
It happens that most of them are either robots or accounts created by
foreigners and other GOP supporters creating multiple accounts designed
to help the conservative far right. So this gives the appearance that
social media is helping the Democrats, when there is little or no evidence
to support this.

Trump continues to claim he won the election with no help from Russia
or any other country. Well Trump can continue to lie, but the facts show
he did get help from Russia and accepted their help gladly. It appears
Trump and the GOP both want help from other countries as they are
doing little or nothing to stop it.

Trump continues to hide everything he can from scrutiny by the press
or congress. It's likely if he had read the special report it would have
been even more redacted that it was. It's time the Democrats start
enforcing their subpoenas, by putting people in jail. As is they are
waiting for a judge to say it's okay, even though they have the right
to enforce them. I say let them sit in jail till they do as the subpoena
 requires or a court agrees with them. Then if Trump tries to pardon
them, subpoena them again. If the Democrats don't get tough,
Trump will stall and stall, hoping to win in 2020.  With Trump,
nice guys don't win.

Trumps claim of transparency is ridiculous  as many of his lies
are. Now he is inflating the costs of the special counsels
investigation, saying 2 years is enough, even though the GOP
spent 5 years going after H. Clinton. Spending who knows
how much in tax dollars in the process. They even admitted
it was political. So the GOP should have to  reimburse the
government of all costs.

There are now 20 people running for the nomination to be
president in the Democratic party. This is a record number.
There is one  GOP governor running against Trump for the
nomination by the GOP to run. As yet only one, but more
may join against Trump. History has shown when a incumbent
president is opposed by a member of his party, he looses. Only
time will tell if this re occurs in 2020.

ou can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 25, 2019, 12:23:25 pm
As I said yesterday we are at 20 Democrat candidates
and counting for president with the addition of VP
Joe Biden.  Or sleepy Joe, as our so called president
claims. I think it's time the democrats come up with
a nick name for Trump.  Perhaps just LLT. (Lawless lying
Trump) or (Lazy lying Trump). Since he spends most
of his time tweeting playing golf and watching TV.

Trump, like most of the super rich has little interest in paying
people a decent wage. So VP Biden should do well has he has
a history of being a Union supporter. It's  time the government
works for the middle class instead of the richest Americans.

People should  know  that the GOP would do away with the
minimum wage if they thought they could get by with it. This
includes Trump. The GOP would outlaw Unions as well if
they could. The GOP has been working for years to  create
right to work laws in the states. Such laws are designed to
kill unions. The GOP is against any group that works for
anyone but the rich, and big business. People should know
most people work for small businesses and not the big
corporations the GOP supports.

Also most of the judges Trump and the GOP have been
putting in the federal court system are supporters of
big business and not the little guy. Many of them care
little for the LGBTQ community, rights of women, and
people of color.

I do support free enterprise and capitalism, but both
have to be regulated. Otherwise greed will cause those
who have been successful to take advantage of those
who have not. This is why in the late 1800's, laws to
stop monopolies and Union busting were made. Yet
the rich and big businesses still work hard to  make
themselves huge sums of money, not caring who
it hurts, especially the middle class and the poor.

During the last few weeks the Democrats have had CEO's of big
corporations in hearings to explain why they don't pay their
employees a living wage. But they just sat their looking stupid
with no good reason for it. They didn't care, they get paid
more than 50 million a year while their workers don't get
paid enough to pay their bills. Yes, some would say they should
cut corners to make ends meet, but most have no corners
to cut trying to support a family. It's time we vote the GOP
out, so laws can be made to curb the excesses of the rich. It's
time they pay their fair share.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 26, 2019, 12:58:57 pm
President Trump actually did something good this morning.
He told Americans to get vaccinated for Measles. Many people
have not vaccinated their children due to being misled into
thinking it may cause other problems like Autism. This and
other false claims have put thousands at risk.

It appears Trump approve paying North Korea 2 million dollars
in ransom to get the release of an American they put in jail for
stealing a propaganda poster. This of course was nothing but
an excuse to hold an American hostage. Apparently the man
wouldn't do what they wanted, so they tortured him to the
point of death. He did die a few days after being returned.
North Korea claimed the 2 million for to  cover medical  costs,
which was a lie, perhaps a way to  give Trump an excuse to
pay the ransom. Holding people for ransom, is a habit of
North Korea. Trump claims he didn't pay any money for
anyone, but Trump has no credibility so it's likely a lie.

It seems Trump must think his supporters are stupid when he
lies about things anyone can prove to be false. He is trying
to claim statements made by his white house counsel to
to Mueller were lies. The Mueller report stated that the man
was very credible. Besides to lie, put him at risk of going
to jail. Read the report to find out, if you dare.

The media loves presidential campaigns as they like to stick
their noses in to the background of candidates. Even though
this likely embarrasses the candidates, but it's better to get
things out in the open early. I am sure their opponents would
rather expose them a few weeks before the election instead. So
the media is doing them a favor.

I imagine people who are claiming Joe Biden has done things
in the past that disqualify him to  be president, likely want
someone else instead. While it is true he did do things then 
that some don't like, people should realize times change
and should give people a chance to show they have changed
as well.

Trump called Joe Biden an old man. now isn't that a laugh. I
bet Biden is in better health than Trump. Trump is likely 40
pounds over weight, and is a man looking to have health
problems at anytime. I actually asked a doctor if he felt
Trump was  over weight and they said definitely. Yet Trump
claims otherwise.

Trump claims the supreme court will protect him from
impeachment. I don't know who told him that, but they
best read the constitution. Impeachment is a matter of
congress only.

I sometimes wonder if Trump carries an applause sign to
his rally's. Because the applause and cheers seem to follow
on command. Trump continues to say all major media reports
is fake news. Yet Trump is the biggest fake of all. It looks like
people who like him, just want a man that looks the other way
while they commit racist acts against minorities and work to
take rights away from the rest of us.

We best hope Trump looses in 2020, because we are headed down
a path to loose our democracy to radical nationalists. People who
will eventually lead the world into a nuclear war. Why? because
countries run by radicals will start fighting each other to have
total control. Even if we avoid war the masses will loose all
rights, as the people of Russia and China have.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 27, 2019, 01:08:30 pm
 President Trump is constantly committing impeachable offenses when
he tells congress they can't subpoena anything he doesn't want them
to have. Congress needs to start enforcing their  subpoenas by putting
Trumps people in jail and or fine them if they continue to thumb
their noses. Trump doesn't have the right or the power to over ride
subpoenas from congress. The more congress runs away from doing
their job, the stronger Trump will be. Trump is going to  blame the
Democrats, no matter what they do. So they just as well do their
job and  not worry about Trumps big mouth.

I wonder if Democrats are going to shoot themselves in the  foot by
not nominating Joe Biden. A man who can attract many white voters
away from Trump. With 20 people running it's true there are some
who are more progressive than Biden. Personally I would vote for a
dog over Trump, a immoral individual who only cares about himself. In
2020 we need the most electable person to run against Trump, not some
perfect individual that doesn't exist.


It's a fantasy to believe a president can fix everything in government. Only
congress can pass legislation that will pay for the needed repairs to our
infrastructure, health care, lower drug prices and needed changes to  voting
rights for us all. That means a congress who is willing to work for these
things. If we continue to have a split congress, nothing will be done. The
GOP controlling the senate will fight anything that doesn't let them help
the rich who pay for their re elections.  The rich want a free ride where
they don't have any regulations or taxes that keep them from making
and keeping vast sums of money.

50 years ago we had a more balanced government with moderates in
congress who were willing to work with he left or the right wings of
each party. In the end they usually came up with a law that was fair
for the country. Since the 1980's the GOP started fighting hard to gain
control of government. Radical elements pushed for lower taxes for
the rich. They claimed workers would be treated fairly if businesses
made more money. This would be done by lowering taxes for business
so they could pay their workers more. This is another fantasy as it
doesn't allow for greed. Few people are willing to  pay more for work
unless they are forced to. The GOP leadership ignores this fact, or
they just don't care.

A presidents job is to work with congress, not fight with them. Yes a
president can veto a law he/she feels is bad for the country, but the
congress can over ride if it feels they are right and the president
is wrong.

I feel the only way we are going to move this country toward a
more balanced society is at the ballot box. The GOP leadership
has always felt government should be small, and limited to
defense of the country and the constitution. They don't believe
government should be involved with helping the poor, they
feel this is the job of the private sector to deal with social
issues. History as shown this rarely works, and leaves many
people to starve or die in the streets. Only governments
can see to the needs of those individuals who find them
selves in need of help. The private sector has little if any
reason to help people who they think don't  deserve it. So
they are left to their own devices. Which often leads to
theft or sickness and  death. All of which affects society
in whole.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 28, 2019, 12:42:54 pm
If Trump is so innocent why is he trying to  stop congressional actions
to investigate people who talked to the special counsel. I think Trump
is afraid if the public watches hearings where they actually see, and
hear people tell what he did they will be more likely to believe them,   
instead of his lies about the report.

Will Trumps attorney general explain why he misled people about
the Mueller report? I think he will dodge the questions, and try to
make excuses. Even to say he was misquoted. Only time will
tell. It's likely Trump has told him to either lie or not answer
questions that would make him look bad.


When will the news media stand up to Trump, and hold him accountable
for what he says? They should call him a liar when he lies. When he
makes the claim that the news is fake, why not show how fake Trump
is. Use his own words against him. Even his supporters will find it hard
to call that fake. When Trump has a rally, ask why is it only Trump
supporters allowed. Ask him why he won't talk to people who don't
agree with him.

Trump may know how to handle the media, but the media should be
smart enough to turn it right back at him. When they talk to  the
GOP leadership, confront them whit their own words that contradict
their current position and ask them why they changed. They shouldn't
let them dodge the questions either. Then if they refuse to come back
tell us why. Point to them and tell the public they are afraid to answer
honest questions.

I am sure Trump supporters like how he tries to block immigrants
from central America, and people from Islamic countries. Trump
claims these people are a danger to our country when nearly all
acts of violence are by white extremists who are home grown
citizens. Trump never comes out and directly blames them for
hate crimes. Instead he just calls the hate crime bad. Even if
he does blame a group, he claims it's just a few bad people
all groups have.

Another attack on Jews occured in California on Saturday. It was
fortunately the killer was subdued before he could kill more than
one person. Still he seriously injured three others.

Hopefully one day we will find out what Trump does that
convinces seemingly good people to lie and mislead the public.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

them
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 29, 2019, 12:26:15 pm
he Democrats have to stand up to the GOP and Trump. This
kissing up response will only gain Trump support. They have to
stop worrying about loosing the next election and do their job.
The GOP discovered years ago being defiant gains them
support. It seems people want our leaders to fight for
what they stand for. Backing down just looks bad. Especially
when they are right with the law on their side. Trump will
lie and the GOP will mislead the public. So the Democrats
have to counter with truth and facts, and not be afraid to
call a liar a liar, and hate for what it is.

Our master liar Trump is at it again. As if he ever stops. He
He lies when he claims his wall is being built. It just a upgraded
fence that replaces existing barriers.

He lies when he talks about the economy. Where many
of his 2016 voters are not doing well.

He lies about the Mueller report. Saying it shows him innocent.
Which it doesn't.

He wants us to return to private health insurance which he
claims works better, which in many cases offer policies that give
poor coverage at a discount, leaving many owing tens of
thousands  they can't pay.

He lied when he promised lower drug costs
which are still going up.

He lies when he claims the environment
is okay, and science shows it is not.

He lies about abortion, with misleading statements
that go against the rights of women. Late stage
abortions are only done to protect the woman's
life or because the fetus is brain dead or some
something that would prevent it to live.

He lies when he says he is sending immigrants
to sanctuary cities. Mayers of these
cities say they are welcome, even
though Trump tries to claim otherwise.

He lies when he claims to help the Jews. Yet
he won't order the just it department to go
after the white supremacists. A wing of
the far right.

This is just a small number of Trumps lies and misleading
claims he makes on twitter, to reporters, and at his rally's.

People should realize Trump will say anything to gain
support for his re election. Even blatant black lies that
can be easily proven wrong. Trump is such a good liar
he probably could fool a lie detector. The scary part
is he probably believes half of his own lies.

Since Trump has been in office he has failed to fill
hundreds of government jobs. Many of which worked 
to stop or keep an eye on dangerous radicals who think
the country is being over run bye minorities.

Trump claims he is trying to prevent terrorism, but he
does little to  stop domestic terrorism. Instead
wants to call it a minor problem. That is until it's
committed by a Latino or Islamic person. Then it's
a much bigger problem. I bet the only thing that
bothers him when people are killed is when it wasn't
done by some group he hates.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 30, 2019, 01:33:28 pm
At Trumps rally in Wisconsin last saturday, Trump told 61 lies, taking
him well over 10,000 since he was elected. Of these likes the worst
was about abortion. He said women and doctors were killing viable
babies after birth. He even said the Democrats supported this. What
Trump didn't say is there are laws against killing any baby that has
 a chance to live.

The human body generally aborts non viable babies naturally. This is
called a miscarriage. But with technology some are brought to term
when they wouldn't otherwise. We don't hear about babies being born
without brains, or without faces, or organs. These terrible deformations
rarely ever find their way into the news, so many people never hear
about them. So antiabortioniist ten to forget the facts when they tell
of  after birth deaths. They will use any excuse to take away women's 
reproductive rights.

Either Trump is listening to these filthy lies, or he is using them as an
excuse to  run down the Democrats. During ww2 Hitler lied, claiming
the Jews killed their babies. So one can only wonder if Trump is using
the same filthy lies trying to wen in 2020.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 01, 2019, 12:47:02 pm
Mueller is not happy about how Trumps attorney general is
misrepresenting his report. He sent a letter to the AG
telling him so. When asked the AG said he hadn't heard
from Mueller when testifying to congress. This apparent
lie could get the AG in legal trouble. The AG tries to say
it's his decision to decide what the report concludes.
Even though Mueller meant for Congress to decide.
Because of the policy of the justest department not to
indict a president.

Trumps attorney general spoke before the senate judiciary committee
this morning. He tried to justify his decision to say the Mueller report
showed no crime by Trump, or had any connection with Russia, during
his campaign.

GOP members seemed to be only interested in how Democrats tried
to defeat Trump. Also they seemed to be very interested in how much
money Mueller spent on the investigation. Yet they never mentions
how much they the GOP spent during the 5 years they investigated
H.Clinton. Even though they knew it was nothing but political on their
part. They are even trying to blame the FBI for
not supporting Trump more than they did.

The GOP members worked hard to protect Trump. I really don't think
it's the job of the senate to protect the president. They should be
trying to work for the country,not the republican party, or Trump.
The Democrats tried to ask the AG about the Mueller report and his
previous comments about it. The AG stalled and did his best to
defend every point that showed Trump cover up in the report.
The AG even tried to explain why people in the report said what
they did. People should be able to speak for them selves, not
have their words tossed around by a political hack.

Trump should be proud of his AG, a good defense attorney that
should be trying to work for the people of the country, and not
for him, the president. He even told several lies in his statements.
Trump who has lied over 10,000 times should be proud.

The Report showed how Trump uses people to break the law. It
It seems even the AG is one of his puppets, along with  the leader
of the senate. I  can remember when the senate leader opposed
Trump. Then he changed. We can only wonder what Trump does
to get people to  lie for him. Perhaps a bribe?  Or by blackmail?
Hopefully one day we will find out.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 02, 2019, 12:29:54 pm
Trumps attorney general actually said if a president  should be
able to kill an investigation if he feels he is innocent. Now if that
was the case, how to  we ever find out if a president was guilty
of anything?

Also it seems there is a rash of forgetfulness in Washington DC,
and in the white house since Trump took office. The AG couldn't
remember if he was asked about investigations by the white
house. We know Trump and the GOP are both interested in
investigating the FBI and others. So why didn't the AG just
say yes or no. Perhaps he knew the white house can't legally
ask him to do any investigation and would cause Trump
trouble to admit it.

Also Trump claimed he was unable to remember howto
answer over 30 questions asked by the special counsel.
This by Trump who has said many times he has a very
sharp mind. This doesn't count a number of Trumps
people who made the same claim when they were asked
by the special counsel. This gives the appearance that
Trump told them to forget or lie. Professional people
are not that forgetful.

The AG complained the letter from Mueller about the
his misrepresenting his report was written by a inept
staff instead of Mueller. The AG knows very well that
he and Mueller both use staff to write their letters.
So claiming it was poorly written because it was
likely written by staff is a dodge trying to say it
misrepresented  Mueller's feelings.

Trump is working hard to stop all investigations about his
actions during his campaign and since he took office. Those
he can't stop he works to hinder, by not responding to
subpoenas. Trump doesn't care that he is not above the
law. He expects his followers to support his lawless
activities as long as he claims his innocence.

The GOP are complaining there was FBI workers calling
candidate Trump rude names, and saying Trump wasn't
fit to be president. They seem to forget that many of the
GOP were saying the very same things early in 2016. It
wasn't until Trump won the nomination that the GOP
started saying Trump is a good man and needs to win.

Just because people don't personally like someone
doesn't mean they won't do their job. Especially
professionals like who work at the FBI. Seems the
GOP, and Trump want the FBI to protect anyone
they like. Of course Trump only likes those who
support him and his lies.

Trump is breaking the law when he has his staff campaign
for him. Only elected officials can legally campaign for
Trump. Non-elected government workers can't, and
if the department of justest was doing its job they
would be prosecuted. Someone seeing them do it should
file a complaint. Because Trump will use them as long
as he can get by with it.

The GOP only want to continue with their agenda, which
to fill the federal courts with conservative judges, reduce
the size of government. Also they want to get rid of all
entitlements like social security, medicare, and medicate,
and most all other programs that provide aid to individuals
in this country. This is nothing new, they have  fought the
passage of any entitlements, claiming it will destroy the
government. They point to history where when governments
failed it was due to growing too large. This is true if the
economy can't support the government. But our economy
can easily support  higher education, health care, retirement
income, and even a minimum income for all Americans. But
until all Americans are required to pay their fair share in
taxes, our deficits will increase. Not because of entitlements
as the GOP wants to claim.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 03, 2019, 12:17:34 pm
I was curious to find out how all these nice job
numbers were showing up, with all the weather
related disasters. So I did a little googling
and found the following website.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-jobs-report-is-overhyped-heres-why-thats-a-problem/ (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-jobs-report-is-overhyped-heres-why-thats-a-problem/)
This site shows how these reports are made, and shows they can 
be over a hundred fifty thousand off. Up or down. The true
numbers may not show up for months. Yet politicians try to
point to numbers that are rarely accurate. No matter which
party is making the claim. When Trump was running for president
he likely used the lower possible numbers trying to say the economy
was bad under Obama. Now that he is president he is using hyped
numbers for his own benefit.


When Trump's AG said it was okay for Russia to help Trump during
the 2016 election. H Clinton said perhaps  democrats should ask
China to find Trump's  tax returns, because the news media would
reward them.  Seeing it's only fair if Russian help Trump why not
have China help the Democrats? She said this just to show how
bad it sounds. Not saying people should ask any other country for
political help.

I have a hunch Trump and the GOP would cry foul if China did try
to help the democrats in 2020. Even though they were okay with
the Russians helping Trump in 2016.

Well now, it appears the GOP and Trump are no longer telling Mueller
how good a job he did. It seems now that Trump knows what the
Mueller report really said about him, he is all bent out of shape over it.
Apparently the GOP is too.

Perhaps they are afraid of what Mueller will say when he sits at a
committee hearing in the house of representative in public view.
It is possible Trumps new AG shut down the Mueller investigation.
on Trump's orders. After all Mueller's report appeared just a few
weeks after Barr was confirmed by the GOP senate. Mueller could
spill the beans if directly asked. 

Trumps AG said he felt Mueller shouldn't have been doing any
investigation unless he planned to prosecute Trump. This is
a strange statement since the policy of the Justest department
doesn't want to indict a president while in office. Mueller said
this is why he didn't try to file charges against Trump.

Trump and the GOP are using this trying to say this is why Trump
is innocent. We can only wonder if the AG stopped it so he could
help Trump get out of trouble.

The GOP is trying to  say the public is tired of this investigation
of Trump. Well I really don't know, but I really doubt if most
people are really concerned about how long it's taking. They may
not like how Trump continues to delay it. The GOP certainly didn't
worry about how long it was taking when they investigated
H Clinton for years and years while knowing she was innocent.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 04, 2019, 01:07:28 pm
We only know Trump talked to Russia's Putin, is because
the Russian controlled media told the world they did.
The report was they talked for 90 minutes. We can only
wonder what all they discussed. Trump implied that
Putin said the Mueller report started out big and ended
as a mouse. Trump claimed Putin would know since
there was no collusion with Russia. Trump believes
anything Putin his hero says. Even when he tells Trump
Russia didn't work to help him win. Well we know
that is a lie. Trumps ego won't let him believe he only
won because of Russia's help.

Trump tells us we must get along with other countries
like Russia and China. But that doesn't mean we should
bend over for them. Doing so gives them a feeling they
can step on us without any worry of punishment.
History has shown us when authoritarian powers
think other countries are weak they start pushing them.
Just like any bully does. It's a big cause of war, and
with nuclear weapons it's too much of a danger to
ignore.

How long will the democrats run scared from their duty
to protect the constitution? They seem to think if they
impeach Trump, or Bill Barr the Attorney General they
will loose the 2020 election. Well not doing their duty
could cause them to loose it. Because Trump, the GOP
and the Russians will work hard over the next 18
months to make the Democrats look like they are
only playing politics to get rid of Trump, a man
who is easily manipulated with a carrot of power
in front of his nose.

Yes while it is true the GOP controlled senate will protect
Trump and the AG, but in doing so they show the public
where they stand. Which is against the constitution and
laws they swore to uphold.

The Democrats are our only barrier to Trump from being
a autocrat, and he will work hard to consolidate power over
the government as long as he holds his office. He will continue
to threaten anyone who stands against him.

His supporters need to understand what Trump is. If they
fail to, they will one day regret it. Because once we have
a dictator running the country, he can do anything including
taking guns from any group, or individual who poses
a threat to him, imaginary or real.

It won't only be guns, but to imprison people who have a
voice or pen that threatens him. Then it will be too late
to turn it around, peacefully at least. I am sure people
have seen what happens when a country is stricken by
a revolution. Often those who take power aren't the
good guys. We must do everything we can to prevent
such an end with our laws and constitution.

People must vote to put an end to Trumps and the
GOP's desire to totally control the government.
Otherwise we will be enslaved by the super rich
who will do anything to keep their money and
control of the government. This is how things are
done in Russia today. Likely the same in China.
There is your future if you support Trump and his
puppets in the GOP. Don't believe me alone, check
the facts yourself. Remember Trump is a liar, so
only believe what you see him do, not his lies.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 05, 2019, 12:45:18 pm
Much has been said that Russia helped Trump win in 2016,
but I think a lot of people in his country don't feel a woman
is capable of being a good president. Also many felt H Clinton
was sure to win, Even Trump thought so. So many of those who
voted for Obama stayed home instead of standing in line to
vote for someone they felt would win anyway. This should
show people that every vote counts. In this case a vote in
2020 for democrats may save our democracy, and way of life.

The Florida GOP controlled legislature has voted to  keep
people from voting if they owe money to the court system.
This is nothing but a poll tax. If signed I am sure the ACLU
will sue the state of Florida, but it will likely be after the
2020 election before the state looses, even if they do.

This is more proof that the GOP will do anything to sop people
from voting. Especially those who might vote for the Democrats.
This isn't just Florida, every GOP controlled state is working
to limit voting. Because they know when large numbers
vote they loose. This is un-american and unpatriotic, but the
GOP leadership think only they, and the richest people know
how to  run the country successfully.

Trump and others of the far right are complaining that some of
the online social websites are against them, because they are
removing far right conspiracy pages. Of course Trump is trying
to say this is illegal, but at this time online sites are protected
by the constitution, and can publish as they wish. I can guarantee
Trump and the far right would like to stop any web site that tells the
truth about them. The way things are going our constitution may
be gone, along with our democracy if Trump is reelected.

The far right and even the GOP are trying to say Trump
is tough on Russia, even the toughest president ever. This is
nothing but lies. Trump has been trying to remove sanctions
from Russia, ever since he took office. Not the other way
around.

The speaker of the house said Trump may try to claim the
next election is invalid unless he looses by a large number.
I have felt this way for some time now. I think this is why
he nominated the last justest to the supreme court. A fixer
for Trump if I ever saw one. So Trump likely feels the now
conservative supreme court will stand up for him, even
to allow him to stay in office.

I  think we know Trump wants to be president so he can
push his enemies around and make money. Also he knows
as of now, the loss of office would find him eligible for
indictments where he would end up in prison for the rest
of his life. But if he is reelected most of his lawless acts
will time out by 2024, and he will no longer be libel
for indictment. Then with his money he can likely stall
any other prosecution for years.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 06, 2019, 12:52:19 pm
Another carrier strike force is moving toward the Arabian
gulf. Iran said they are ready to fight if attacked. Trump
has a large military force there. So if Iran did attack they
would find themselves in a bad way. I hope Trump isn't
setting up a situation where he can start a war with Iran
at a moments notice. If the polls show him failing a win
in 2020, he might think a war would keep him in office.

Even his so called deal with North Korea appears to be
failing as they are starting to test missiles again.

China isn't backing down from Trumps promise of 25%
tariffs. So Trump has said he may have to impose them
after all. I have a hunch this will make the GOP squirm
as they know it will hurt our economy.

What I see is president Trump's ideas are starting to fail,
and he will start trying anything to stay in office.

President Trump is running scared, or he would NOT be
trying to block congressional investigations. If he was
as innocent as he claims he should support all investigations.
Then if he see's something that's incorrect, he can dispute
it, but with all his lies how can we believe anything he says?
Yes as president he has to be careful where he goes, but
even when he was running he feared people.
Even with crowds of children.

If you think I am wrong, when did you ever see him personally
fire anyone. When did you see him sand up to anyone when he
didn't have bodyguards nearby. During a news conference
with Putin you could see how cowed he was. He never disputed
anything Putin said. It's no wonder Putin of Russia, and the
leader of China see Trump as a weak leader.

Sure he has a strong presence at his rally's, where he has a
room full of supporters, and bodyguards to spirit him away at a
moments notice. Even when he was running for president,
he rarely ever mixed with the crowds, unless he knows they
are friendly. I think this is why he only allows supporters into
his rally's. He is scared of being one on one with people who
don't agree or like him. How often does he stay to shake hands
with regular people? Usually he is spirited away where he
doesn't have to personally meet his supporters. Instead he
lets others do it for him.

How can we expect a man who runs from confrontations
to be a good leader? He is a coward who fears to stand
up to anyone he doesn't control. So he plays the nice guy, 
and lets other leaders push him around. Of course he
disputes this, but as before, how can we believe him when
he lies with nearly every word he says.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 08, 2019, 12:16:27 pm
I know my posts are starting to get rather long, but it seems
more and more things need to  be talked about.

he judicial committee met this Morning to decide if  Trumps AG
should be held in contempt of congress for ignoring a subpoena.
Well as expected the GOP members made a big show of how
terrible this action is for the AG. They want their king Trump
to know they are there to protect him. They apparently don't
care about the rights of congress and the constitution. Just
how to keep power for their party, so they can get their way
over the wishes of most of the people of this country.

Sometimes I wish the chairman of thee committees would
have a tiny violin playing when the GOP members do so
much crying.

Some of Trumps tax records have come to light, and have shown
him to be one of the worst businessmen in history. He lost over 1
billion dollars in just 10 years. Much if not all of his fathers money.
Where he got this much money to loose his still yet to be known.
We know he has borrowed millions, much of which he has never
repaid.

Trump responded claiming big loss reports are just a part  of doing
business in real estate. Yes this is true to  some extent, but these
losses weren't all in real estate. This is shows we need to change
tax laws for real estate dealers. Lawmakers of both parties have
worked to make the business of real estate a virtual loop hole for
income tax.

Seems rather odd to me that every time congress ask for
something they have to  get a judge to  agree with them. If the
police had to get a judges permission to arrest people for
breaking the  law, It would create no end of problem trying to
prevent crime. Imagine trying to stop a drunk driver if they
had to ask a judge first. You can be  sure if a regular person
was told to appear in a congressional hearing, and didn't
arrive. They would be in jail post haste, and no judge would
be asked for permission. Only after the fact, not before.

Yet the president can say no and it takes weeks threading
it's way through the courts to do anything about it. As long
as it doesn't effect national security many of these things
should not require a judge to decide.

Trump is just stalling as I am sure his lawyers have
told him he can't win against lawful subpoenas. Trump
has used stalling tactics all his life to avoid justest.
Used his money to drag out law suits to keep from loosing
them. This hasn't worked every time, but with enough
push back, some prosecutors will say it's not worth the effort.
This is why rich people often get off easy compared to anyone
else.

Over 700 prosecutors that used to work at the justest
department signed a letter saying Trumps AG is basically
crazy saying the Mueller report doesn't show Trump
being guilty of a coverup. They say if Trump wasn't
president he would be indicted immediately.

Personally I don't see any good reason to  not
indict Trump. After all we have a vice president
to take care of business while the president is
being adjudicated.

Trump is complaining that he has lost 2 years of his
presidency because of the investigation. The truth is
if Trump had kept his mouth shut, the news media
would have said little about it. Except when one
of his people was indicted. Even then he never needed
to say anything. It's his own fault this has been in
the news for the past 2 years or more. All his complaining 
just made him look guilty even if he wasn't. It would
take a constitutional change for him to get any extra
time added to his term as president. So this is just more
hot air by Trump.

It has been said many people in the republican party
may start thinking having a autocrat would be a better
form of  government. Well history has shown control of
government by one party or person leads to loss of
rights, along with and increase of corruption. It takes
a balance of ideas to make government better for the
majority of the people. When the founders of this country
created the constitution, they understood what absolute
power does, and wanted to keep it from happening in this
country.

I really don't think the people of this country would
like the government run without any controls on our
lawmakers. That is what people fought and died
for. So the people would have a say in how they are
governed, and taxed. Things might go fairly well for
a few years, but soon greed and lust for power would
 show it's ugly face, and the people would likely revolt
when phased with a very corrupt government.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 09, 2019, 12:52:38 pm
The GOP wants Trump to talk more about the economy, They
feel this is the key to them keeping the white house and the
senate. Only thing is Trump won't stay on the subject they
want him to. Depending on who gets the democratic
nomination for president. It could be Trumps lack of political
savvy, and his big mouth will cost him the election. There
again if the democrats pick the right person, Trump is finished
anyway.

Even though Trump is a very poor business man, he tries to
con people into thinking he is responsible for how good
the economy is. If he continues to  pursue these tariffs our
economy will slow down. He still claims the tariffs will only
cost exporters like China money, and not Americans. Just
how stupid does he think people are? If we put a 25%
tariff on an import, the price for that import goes up by
the same amount.

During Trumps last Rally, someone called out "Shoot them".
Instead of calling him down, Trump made a joke out of it. This
shows Trump knows where not to cross the line. Knowing if he
was to imply his followers should shoot democrats, would likely
cost him GOP support, then he would be quickly removed
from office.

Strangely enough a GOP senate committee subpoenaed Trumps
oldest son to appear to clarify previous statements that shows he
lied to the senate. Trump is already wanting to block this subpoena,
even though it's by a republican led committees. The white house
is even calling the chairman of that committee a so called
republican. We can only wonder where this may lead.

As I said before Trump is running scared. He wants to be
impeached knowing the GOP in the senate won't remove
him. Then he will say this is proof of his innocence. This
is likely why he is blocking all access  of documents along
with people who were involved with the investigation to
the democrats. Also he doesn't want people to spend
hours on television talking about all the bad things he
has done. He knows this would have a much greater
impact than the Mueller report it's self.

Trump wants all this talk about the Mueller report to
go away, because he is afraid it will eat away at his
support.

In spite of what the GOP and Trump are claiming the
democrats are working on legislation, and have pass
the following, but the senate is blocking them claiming
Trump wouldn't sign them.

cost reduction for medicine.
improvement of voting rights.
Changes to take big money out of politics.
Changes to  immigration policies.
bills to reduce damage to the environment.

This is just a few of the actions taken by the democrats
since they took the house. The GOP wants to  hide the fact
they are blocking nearly all of these bills to protect their
rich friends and Trump. If Trump had to veto them it would
give him bad press.

Trump is still talking about his win in 2016. Still running
Clinton down as well. I am sure the GOP is sighing in the
background wishing Trump would get off the past and talk
more about the economy. Ever notice anyone Trump likes is
a very good person, but otherwise they are a rat. Even
if he used to like them.

Even though Trump is one of the worst business men in
history. He still claims he knows how to make a country
like North Korea and Iran very rich.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 10, 2019, 12:07:02 pm
The Trade war is likely joined, as China said it may respond
in kind to Trumps tariffs. If a full blown trade war spreads
around the world, the world economy could fall into a
recession if not a depression. Yes China is a bad trader,
but tariffs hurt everyone. Not just China as Trump wants
to claim. Get ready for higher prices for many things we
need.

The Democrats need to play hard ball with Trump and his
cronies, or they will end up on the short end of the stick.
Trump is a bully and will do anything to win. So if the
Democrats don't fight back we will all loose.

Trump has sent one of his lawyers to Ukraine, supposedly
to check out Joe Biden's sons business activities there.
How can we be sure Trump hasn't told his lawyer to
pressure them to come up with something bad or illegal
he can use against Biden? Ukraine is dependent on Trumps
favor for weapons. So it's likely they would want to  keep
Trump happy. I wouldn't put anything past Putin to give
Trump any dirt he might have as well. True or not. This is
more inappropriate actions by Trump. Just as he did in 2016.

Well North Korea is still launching missiles. Yes they are
short range, but they can still hit our Troops in south
Korea, and it's not too much farther to those in Japan. Yet
Trump is still claiming he is in love with the murdering
leader of  North Korea. We can only wonder how
long this affair will last.

It seems according to  a man who spent a lot of time with
Trump back in the late 1980's, said the reason Trump is such
a failure at business is that he quickly looses interest
in them, so they fail from the lack of attention. He felt
Trump hasn't changed, and likely spends most of his
time thinking about anything but the job of president.
And only responds to spur of the moment realities
that makes him look bad. It appears only others in
the White House are keeping the government from
falling apart from the top down. Very much as Nero
did while Rome burned. Trump just sits and watches
TV while our government goes down the tubes. Just
like a kid with a new toy. Trump plays for a while then
looses interest till someone wants the toy, then he
wants it again.

Well we have something else to thank Trump for. Iran
is saying they will start working to enrich uranium in
60 days if sanctions aren't reduced. This is Trumps idea
because he hated Obama so much that he has tried to undo
every thing Obama did. Even a deal that discouraged Iran
from developing Nuclear weapons. 

Somehow I think Trump must have been a fan of  the TV show
"All in  the family." He is so much like the Archie Bunker
character in his way of thinking it's pathetic.

Well it appears Trumps last appointment to the supreme \
court has triggered a wave of antiabortion laws in several
states. Some of which are tyrannical in scope. Anywhere from
putting a woman in jail for having a miscarriage, to life
imprisonment for having an abortion. Even years of jail time
if they go to another state where it's legal.

This is all driven by the GOP, which use abortion to  hold
power. It has little or nothing to do with saving the lives
of unborn fetuses. If you think not, then why it it that its
mostly men in congressional bodies that vote to stop abortion?
I think it's also men wanting to control women. This is why
we see spousal abuses by men. Many men think of women
as children who need guidance, and are too emotional to
know whats right.

Many men will continue to take advantage of women
until women stand up for their rights. They will have
to gain control over state, and federal congressional
bodies to prevent such abuses to continue. Unfortunately
some women want to please men to the point of giving
up their rights. I know a man who tells his wife how to
vote, and I am sure this is fairly  common. Hopefully some
will vote the way they want and lie to their spouse about
how they voted.

It's likely the abortion issue is the glue that holds Trumps
support together. Oddly enough Trump wasn't against abortion
until he ran for president. So it's likely he turned against
women's rights when told it would help him win. We can only
guess how many abortions he paid women to have.

If people don't get out and vote in 2020 Trump stands a
good chance of winning again. Many people support him
thinking he cares about the country. Well it's unfortunate
that people only listen and don't check the facts. Trump
will only do more harm to our country the longer he is in
office.

It appears the next generation of woman are standing up
for their rights than those of years ago. So perhaps over
the next few years we will see a shift in power toward
women. I probably won't be around to see it, but it can't
come too soon.

ou can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 11, 2019, 01:03:49 pm
Trumps followers appear to think he is smart, because they
think he is a successful rich man. Well if you believe that your
just another one of his suckers. Trump has spent his whole life
lying, cheating, and getting around the law. Much of what he owns
he cheated others out of. People who think that is being smart best
not try the same thing. Unless you have a  couple dozen lawyers
working for you, and a very rich father you will find your self
bankrupt and in jail.

As I have said in the past, Trump is a salesman, and knows how
to manipulate people. People who know Trump call him a con artist
and a clown. He knows the average man or woman look at rich people
with envy and think they must be very smart. They feel those who
fail are losers. My own brother considered our father a bit of a loser,
because he never made a lot of money. This is why Trump wants to
hide his tax returned. Because it will show him to be the failed
businessman he really is. People might not like him if they knew
he only succeeded due to a rich father and skulduggery.

Women are facing a return to back alley abortions, because if the
radical anti abortionists get their way. The conservative controlled
supreme court will strike down the right to abortion. The GOP supports
the radicals wanting their votes.  Women once pregnant will loose all
rights, and will face jail if they don't do all they can to  bring a baby
to term. Even if they are too poor. The radicals don't want it known
that abortion actually lessened after the supreme court made abortion
legal. They want contraceptives made illegal too. It's a wonder they
don't force women to get pregnant as well. After all there are many
viable eggs in a woman's ovaries.  They might even make a
hysterectomy illegal.

These radicals work hard to protect the fetus, but not the baby once
it's born. They support the GOP who cuts funding that feeds children
of parents who are poor. Also they support cutting health programs
for the same children. They also want to cut programs that help keep
poor women healthy.

Men might think this only affects women, but they could hold men
responsible for having good health when trying to get their wife
pregnant.

Once we allow radicals to run our government , anything is possible.
Even though we might not think so. All it takes is a very few people
in power to make life miserable for a great number of people.


So remember that, the next time you think it's too much trouble
to vote.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 12, 2019, 12:31:50 pm
President Trump is a good salesman. It's a shame he doesn't
use his talents for the good of the country. Instead he only
wants to sell himself, and those who will work for him,
not to the public at large, but to his supporters.

Training to be a good salesman requires a good understanding
of human nature, and psychology. Trump apparently took the
time to learn this well. Ever notice how he acts like he is being
mistreated when people talk bad about him? This is his way
of getting sympathy. Another key to gaining support from
people who want to believe in him.

Another key is not showing a lack of confidence. To sell
one has to make people believe the item or idea is a good
one. The quickest way to loos a sale is for the audience
to think you don't know what your talking about.

Trump knows this, and is one reason he tells his
supporters to only believe him and not the news
media. I am sure most of us remember how quick
Trump started running down the media during his
rally's. He  knew his scams would easily catch up
with him if people started checking and believing
the facts. So he lied, telling his followers the
deep state was out to stop him and them from
making the country great again.

This idea of making the country great again is
more of his plan to sell himself. His age and
wealth gives him the appearance of knowing
what he is talking about. In reality it's nothing
but a scam to make people think he cares about
them and the country.

He stood up at his rallys claiming he would hire only
the best people, but nearly all of them are just
looking out for themselves and not the country, just
as Trump is doing. Sadly many of them don't even
know how to do anything but enrich themselves with
your tax dollars. Trump said he had so much money
he couldn't be bought, yet there are lobbyists going in
and out of the white house daily. We can only wonder
how many show up at his Florida resort.

If he really cared, he wouldn't be operating on
emotions instead of facts, but Trump knows
emotions have a much more powerful effect
on people than facts do. One of the first things he
did was to convince his followers to believe the CIA
didn't know what they were talking about when they
said the Russians helped him get elected. The last
thing Trump wanted his followers to believe he lied
about being connected to Russia.

I  could go on, but people should track Trump from his
early beginnings to now. I think they would find
that our president is nothing but a scam artist who
is out to make a lot of money and be a big shot. He
is afraid to be honest, because he doesn't know how,
and likely feels those who are, will fail, and be
called losers.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 13, 2019, 01:05:02 pm
Well now, will Trump treat China like he does congress?
If Trump goes into fight mode with China on trade, it could
cost US consumers a lot of money. With over a year to the
2020 election, there is plenty of time for people to get tired
of paying through the nose, and support Trump too. China
has an advantage over free enterprise in that the government
can and does subsidize their industries.

China buys a lot of soybeans, and the tariffs are driving China
to look for another place to buy them. This can and is hurting
US farmers. Some are even going out of business over Trumps
tariffs.

The whole idea of tariffs ended a hundred years ago, to end
trade wars that do little but hurt the economy of nations. Depending
on how far it goes, it could create a world wide depression. They
were made illegal a hundred years ago except for use during
wartime. This is just another one of Trumps bad ideas, and may
hurt us all. Seems if Trump gets it in his head something looks
good he goes for it all the way, because he thinks he is so
smart. Then only worries about it later, if it hurts him in
the polls.

This idea of his, that he is smarter than anyone else may be
his downfall. Over the past two years he has wanted to do
a lot of things that would have really hurt him, if not for people
who really are smart and convinced him otherwise.

It seems the news media just wants to talk about impeachment
and the 2020 democratic campaign. The democrats in the house
are passing a lot of good bills, but the media rarely mentions it.
The senate and Trump are blocking this legislation and only talk
about the bad ole democrats. When it's the bad ole Republicans
who are blocking progress on infrastructure and health care.

People say they want the democrats to compromise, but
Trump and the GOP are just saying NO to everything.  Even
on bills they want, because Trump wants them to make the
democrats look bad, no matter what.

I wish the news media would stop trying to make everyone look
just as bad as Trump. They seem to think they must balance
their reporting, by finding fault with the democrats when they
find fault with Trump. In 2016 they used to talk about Trump
then look for something bad about H. Clinton. This helped
cover Trumps stupidity, and hurt H. Clinton. I expect that
Trump will try to make the same thing work in 2020.

Trumps followers seem to think Trump is doing great with all
his stalling tactics. Well it might look sweet, but when Trump
breaks his oath of office he is hurting the country a lot more
than the democrats. What Trump is doing isn't politics, it's
breaking the law, and hurting the government. This hurts
everyone. Yes, even those who like Trump.

 The GOP should be wanting to impeach Trump because
they claim to support the laws and the Constitution.
Instead they are nothing but a bunch of puppets who are
scared of Trump and his tweets.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 14, 2019, 01:14:04 pm
It appears Trump Attorney General is following Trumps wishes to
investigate the FBI over their investigation of his campaign.
This is just another one of Trumps ideas that he can punish anyone
for not going along with what ever he wants. This will only hurt the
credibility of our FBI, and justest system.

Will Trump make a mistake and start a war with Iran? Trump has
preached for years that we should get out of wars in the middle east.
So how will he explain a decision to  send troops to fight Iran?

A war with Iran will shut down shipments of oil from that region
all together. This will likely send gasoline prices to 10 dollars a
gallon, and if Trump opens up the strategic oil reserves to hold
down prices. How long will that last? High energy costs will wrest
the economy, and probably cause a worldwide depression.

It's cheap energy that drives a strong economy. High fuel
costs will send prices skyward. I hope Trump is smart
enough to understand the danger he is playing with.
The trouble is Trump would be a lousy chess player as
he can't see the causes of his actions beyond a few
days.

He needs to fire the hawkish people he has around him.
Trouble is Trump thinks he is smart enough to control
them. What he may not know is they are smarter than
he is. They will make small innocent looking moves
working toward their plan to put Trump into a trap, 
where war may be impossible to stop. I fear Trumps
ego will keep him from admitting any mistakes.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 15, 2019, 12:30:31 pm
The state of Alabama shows how bad religious hypocrisy can get. I
know people who claim to they are against abortion because GOD
made them do it. Yet they go out and commit adultery when it suits
them. Now congressional action has been made to stop any abortion
in Alabama, even though they know it's unconstitutional. Why? To
get the support of radicals who have killed doctors and bombed clinics
in the name of their beliefs to  save the unborn. To make rape victims
carry unwanted babies to  term, even though the mother may only
be a child themselves.

These radical care little for the mothers who they think got  pregnant
by playing around. I heard one say."The woman's body will aboard
any fetus that resulted from a rape or insets." There is no medical
evidence of this idiocy, but they claim it anyway.

The whole idea of being against abortions was started by a man
in California who felt it might help him get elected. Unfortunately
this has spread across the country. Mostly by religious  people
wanting money and power. Yes, I am sure some as I   do don't
like to see any fetus aborted, but it should be a woman's right
to decide what happens to her body. Not decided by a bunch of
dirty old men who have no conception of what it's like to be a
pregnant woman with no means of support, or even a job.

If they care so much for the unborn, where are the state
homes and clinics to care for women who have unwanted
pregnancies? Oh no! They just want to punish women who
find them selves in trouble. These radicals say this is why
they like Trump. Because he has put judges on the supreme
court to take a woman's right to choose away. Trump has even
said he felt they should be punished as well.

Trump and the GOP are still doing all they can to prevent  legal
action that would help protect the environment. Trump wants to
keep coal as a energy source, just to get votes from people
who working in a industry which has past it's usefulness. Not
only that, it costs a lot of money  to use it. It takes large
filtration systems to catch all the pollution it creates.

This country needs to lead the world in clean energy, we
have a chance to create millions of jobs doing it, but if
we don't countries like China will do it instead.

Yes, clean energy will cost more in the short run, but  if
we don't, it will cost the next generation a lot more.
Unfortunately most politicians don't care what happens
in the future. It's all about getting reelected.

This is why we need to put term limits on our congressmen,
so lobbyists will have a tough time convincing them to not pass
laws that will cost big business more money. It's likely the only
way to make the changes the environment needs.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 16, 2019, 01:12:03 pm
President Trump is claiming the democrats are wanting to
investigate him again. Well it was the GOP who started
the special counsels investigation, not the  democrats.
It was the deputy attorney general that Trump
appointed, who asked Mueller to investigate Trumps
actions. Trump wants us to forget it was his own fault
the investigation started when he fired the director
of the FBI. Because he wouldn't swear loyalty to
him.

Poor Poor Trump. To hear him talk, everyone hates him. Even
though he want us to think he has done so much good. Claiming
the non existent Deep State is against him, oh and of course
the democrats are too. Claiming it's because they lost the
election. Well I would be the first  to give Trump credit
when deserved. Only problem is he has done so  little
good, he just looks bad.  Still his supporters feel
sorry for their King. Some admitting  he does a few
bad things, but they have to support anyone who
will save the unborn. Even if he is a unpatriotic
criminal.

People don't seem to understand, supporting a criminal, no
matter how much they like them, makes them just as bad.
Thinks about it. If your neighbor refused to tell the police
who  broke into your house, and killed your dog.  Because
the person who did it was someone they liked. How would
you feel? This would be nothing compared to what Trump
is doing to the country with his lawless actions.  Yet his
supporters stand up for him again and again.

Treating Trump like some kind of a Robin Hood is
a terrible mistake millions of people are making. Doing
good deeds never excuses one from breaking the law.
If people don't like a law, vote for law abiding citizens
who will work to create laws that are good for us all.
Trump just works to divide the people, because he
hates anyone who doesn't support him. Think not?
 Trump has turned against those he used to like,
because they didn't protect him.

Trump will do anything to win, even cheat. It's
the same when he plays golf. Ask anyone who
has played the game with him. They will tell
you they only do it so they can try to influence
him on something they want, or for the
bragging rights.

Trump is a mentally ill  man who should be pitied
and not given control of anything. It's not his
fault, he is just unable to have feelings for others.
hopefully he will loose the 2020 election. Then his
immoral actions will only affect himself, and those
he deals with.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 17, 2019, 01:10:12 pm
President Trump is pushing hard to build his tall fence so
the can point to it. He wants make the fence difficult to
climb over by painting it black and adding spurs.  It's so
sad we have a president who will go to  such cruel methods
to only please a few for their votes. Even if he gets his way
only 65 miles of fence can be put up by the end of the years.

At this rate he might have 300 miles done by 2024. That is
if he wins in 2020. If not he will do well to have 100 miles
done before the election.  At best he would only have 10%
done if he totally gets his way. After that it will just be an
eyesore with the name "Trumps Folly" on it.

So far there is little of his fence built, even though he claims
other wise. This is a giant waste of money, by a man who only
thinks of himself, and uses others to get his way. Drugs will
still cross the border hidden in trucks and cars. This could be
limited if Trump would use the money to make the points of
entry tougher to get drugs through. Unfortunately Trump  has
hung his hat on a so called wall, and is afraid to back away
from it. Trump might be an idiot, but he knows how to keep
his voters, no matter who it hurts.

President Trump is claiming once is enough. Well it sure
wasn't for the GOP who investigated H.Clinton over a  dozen
times, and they admitted it was for political reasons. So he and
the GOP have no excuse to block oversize investigations by
the democrat controlled house of representatives.
The Mueller report shows over a dozen attempts by Trump
to block, and or coverup wrong doings. Trump knows
he could lose support if his people watched public hearings
on the Mueller report. It has nothing to do with wasting time,
it's the responsibility of the house to do oversight of the
administration. Especially if there is evidence of possible
wrong doing. The GOP had no hesitation to investigate
President Clinton  for improprieties that were nothing
compared to what Trump has done.

The GOP being a minority party has no qualms with
cheating, and to even side step the law when trying
to keep power. They know it takes every vote they can
scrounge up to win elections. So it's no wonder why
the lie and cheat if they feel they need to.

What is  sad is the GOP being the party of the rich, and
business, feel they must keep power to protect their
monies and status. They fear a shift to a more socialist
controlled government will force them to help people
they see as losers, who will only waste money, and
drag the country down.

No doubt some would do this, but the vast majority
of the people want to earn their own way, and not
live on hand outs. All they want is to be treated fairly
by big business and insurance. To  be paid a fair wage
for a days work. Not having to declare bankruptcy
just because they don't have good health, which keeps
them from having good insurance at a price they can
afford.

Big business and the rich might be able to live on their
fat for a time, but one day soon they will see their profits
fall if people  don't have the money to buy or pay for
their services. Then the country truly will start to fail.

It seems odd to me why people in big business don't
realize they are heading for a cliff, by not working to
increase the size of the middle class. The very people
who buy most of what they sell. Over the past 40 years
the rich and big business has done just the opposite as
they have caused the middle class to diminish over the
years.  All apparently due to greed. and stupid ideas
by a few.

Prior to this the middle class was growing, driving a strong
economy. This was making some people very rich. It has been
determined by psychologists that money can be addictive and
drive people to  do stupid things as other addictions do. So this
could be what has caused the rich to fall into the trap of letting
greed control their practices, which will  likely cause their
destruction if not the world. 

Only the people with their votes and hard work can save us from
the very rich who are driven by their greed, and lust for power.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 18, 2019, 01:00:45 pm
Trump is using tariff because China is smarter than he is. Trump
may be a good salesman, but only when he can con those he
is selling to. Leaders of countries are smart people, smarter
than Trump is apparently. When he has to resort to bullying
tactics, it just shows how ignorant he is.

This is partly why we are so close to war with Iran. Trump seems
\t think he can bully people when he can't make a deal otherwise.
I don't think Iran will let Trump bully them. Trumps actions has
done little but give the hardliners in Iran more power.

It seems the men of the GOP feel they can tell women what
to do, no matter what. Perhaps they are afraid to threaten
them with jail over having an abortion. So they go after
doctors, and health clinics women need. I am thinking
women voters in this country are just about fed up with
what the GOP is trying to do to them.

Women, people of color, and the LGBTQ are under attack. The
leaders of the republican party are using division to stay in
power. They are out to take rights away from anyone if it will
gain them a few more votes. 

It's not just abortion rights, but civil rights for people of color
non Christian religions, and the LGBTQ. They want to separate
them from the Lilly white Christian race in America. Oh they
would never admit it, but it's for the votes, so they can
stay in power. It's just a radical form of apartheid that
used to exist in South Africa. I don't think most people
agree with this, but if Trump and the GOP keep the
senate it's what we could see in the USA. Because they
are filling the court system with conservative judges who   
would support much of what Trump and the GOP want.
 
Trump is leading this, and giving the GOP the courage
to take rights and entitlements from the people so they
can cut government, which in turn saves the rich money.

If the democrats had not taken the house away from
the GOP, we would be seeing the GOP working to privatize
all entitlements, and when they failed the people who
depended on them would be tossed into the streets to
starve and die. That's not all, because the loss of 100's of
billions to the economy would put millions out of work.

This short sighted plan by the GOP if enacted, would
not only cost them power, but would likely turn the
USA into a socialist country. Just as the great
depression nearly did in the 1930's.

Speaking of socialism, the GOP have supported
corporate socialism for years. They were against
Obama's aid for the auto industry, but that was just
because they didn't like Obama. So they don't want
to talk about that.

I do hope the democrats get the nerve to stand up
to Trump and the GOP. I think the people want to see
the democrats come down hard on them both. I know
they are worried Trump might win if the do, but I think
there would be a lot of cheering going on if they started
putting some of Trumps cronies in the capital building
jail.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 19, 2019, 01:05:46 pm
It seems the democrats are wanting to sell impeachment of
Trump to his voters. This is going to fail in my opinion, They
don't care how bad Trump is, just as long as he is for nationalism,
and against, Islamic's, Latino immigrants, people of color,  gays
and abortion they will vote for him. They have to go after the
GOP in the states, the US senate, and house for not standing
up for the constitution of this country.

They should go ahead and impeach Trump. The Mueller report
has all the evidence they need. Then when the unpatriotic GOP
fails to remove him, the democrats can use this against those
GOP senators running for reelection in 2020.

Yes it's harsh to say the GOP in the senate are unpatriotic, but
they are standing against the Constitution most every day. Their
leader stands up and says "we can't vote for a bill the president
won't sign." It's not the job of the  senate to ask permission of
the president for anything, much less how to vote.  There are
many bills ready for consideration by the senate from the US
house, but the GOP senate just sits on them to please their King, 
Trump.

Fox News is complaining that the democrats running for president
won't come to their town hall meetings. Well I hardly see a good
reasons to give Fox News credit for anything with all the hate that
comes out of their programming. Their support of a president to
divides the country for his own personal benefit.  I say let them stand
or die by their own sword. Democrats don't need to be dragged down
with them.

GOP leaders and Trump are trying to say they really don't wish to
stop women from having an abortion after rape or incest. Even the
evangelist leadership is backing down from that. They are getting
a lot of backlash from women over laws  making young girls have
babies. Not counting the claims rape is mostly because of a date
going bad. They are finding they are being struck by their own
petard, because of their extreme laws, and radicalism. 

Most people don't like abortion in general, but woman
should have the right to choose what happens to their
body within reason. They are not a vessel of the state,
 but human beings with their own rights. Those who
hate abortion for any reason, should work to limit the
need for abortion in the first place. Provide contraception,
see that women have access to good health care. Provide
for the needs of children. This would reduce the number of
abortions everywhere. 

As long as women have little support from the people who
are responsible for making them pregnant in the first place
this problem will continue. Yes! I mean MEN. Few if any of
the male GOP congressmen  are interested in providing
care for needy children, much less their mothers. They
want the private sector to do it for them.

This isn't about abortion, but control of women in general.
This is why it gook over a 100 years for women to even get
the right to vote. Conservative Men want them to stay home
where they  think they belong. I know men who still think
women shouldn't be allowed to vote.  It's time all women
stand up for their rights as human beings, and not look to
men as their slave masters.

It might just help if all those men who vote for the control of
women, where told by their wives to sleep on the couch,
until they changed.

ou can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 20, 2019, 12:31:10 pm
The people running for the democratic nomination for president
are warming up. With just a few months before the primaries
start, the candidates are out in force, looking for your support.

Though I am not in favor of candidates giving Fox News any
credibility by getting on their town hall shows. It does cause
Trump some indigestion. So perhaps there is some good
after all. Getting under Trumps skin causes him to do crazy
things that might cost him votes.

It's easy to tell who Trump thinks might have a chance to defeat
him. It's the one he tweets the most about. So far Trump seems
to fear that the truth will defeat him. So he is trying to keep the
truth about him hidden. Even though he only has one GOP
candidate running against him, Trump is stepping up his rally's
in preparation for 2020. Though he has been running for reelection
since he won in 2016.

If anyone is interested, I haven't really decided on one yet,
but I do like Elisabeth Warren's out spoken way of talking.
She is letting us know what she wants for the country.
So I will be watching how she does.

President Trump appears to be playing the same game with
Iran as he did with North Korea. Making threats, and calling
them names. Even moving a carrier task force there as he
did with North Korea. I really don't think the leadership of
Iran which is not singular as it is with North Korea will be
affected the same way.

Trump seems to think money will buy anyone, or get them
to agree with him. If Trump thinks a fight with Iran will be
a quick defeat, he is likely very mistaken. Iraq was a country
with a leader who most of the people didn't like. Iran has
some de centers, but the vast majority would fight hard for
their country. Also Iran has been planning a defense against
the united states for many years.

A war with Iran would turn the whole middle east into a fire
storm, and shut down most if not all oil and gas exports.
They know the world needs oil and gas, so they will hit
the oil, and gas production  fields through out the
middle east. They have a huge number of short range
missiles which can do the job before we could do mush
of anything to stop them.

Then the gas lines of the 1970's would seem short, even
with 10 dollar a gallon prices for gasoline. This would likely
not only cost Trump reelection, he would be lucky to get even
one electoral vote. The GOP would likely suffer a big defeat
as well, as they seem to support Trump's every play.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 21, 2019, 01:10:34 pm
Trump must be really afraid of Joe Biden. During his rally he said
Biden left Pennsylvania with no thought of protecting their jobs.
He failed to mention Biden was only 10 years old when he along
with his parents moved to  Delaware. So I really doubt Biden had
much choice, and a 10 year old boy could do little to  save jobs
for anyone. Just shows how desperate Trump is.

I have a hunch history will show president Trump period in office
some of the darkest days of our nation. The sad thing is Trump could
have been a fair president, but he only wants to be a big shot. Someone
who can say I was a great president. Trump has spent most of his
life trying to prove how smart he is, but the people around him only
see a narcissistic clown trying to  con everyone into thinking he is a
great business man.

I actually think he feels he is a great president. It's his narc-ism and
ego that keeps him from doing a good job. Instead of building a wall
to keep immigrants out, he should be sending people to their country
of origin, and try to  correct what is causing them to leave in the first
place.

Also his hatred for President Obama clouds his judgment. So he
wants to destroy everything Obama touched or done as president.
No matter how much it hurts the people of this country. He claimed
he would lower drug prices, but hasn't. Said he would lower health
costs, but hasn't. Said he would protect social security, and medicare,
but was planning to let the GOP privatize them both. I think he is
afraid to stand against the GOP and their bad ideas, fearing it will
cost him reelection.

When the island American state of Puerto Rico was severely
damaged by hurricanes Trump tried to say they must pay
moneys they own to banks before receiving aid, (apparently
thinking the bankers would like him for it.) He did send
limited aid, but not nearly enough to help them recover.

He just can't help it. He just wants to show off to a group
of people who never gave him credit for anything. To offer
them tax breaks and jobs. It's sad, but they are just using
him, because they know by feeding his ego they can get
much of what they want.

If this was all there was to it, it wouldn't be all that bad, but
he is wanting to con the leaders of other countries, and they,
being smarter than Trump will use him to  gain advantage over
our country. Give him money so he will to make deals that could
cost us lives as well as economic harm.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 22, 2019, 12:49:47 pm
Trump claims the congressional investigations are a waste of
time, because the Mueller report exonerated him. What his
Trump trying to hide? The Mueller report did not exonerate
him. In fact it showed he is guilty of many attempts to cover
up his illegal actions. If you don't want to believe it, read the
report yourself.

Trump hires people to lie for him, his new attorney general
was hired especially to be his protector. The man had a
record of protecting presidents, because he thinks they
should be treated with total respect. A perfect choice for
someone like Trump.

Trump lies when he says he wants to pass bills that will take
care of infrastructure, and other things. If this is true, why
didn't he do it during his first year of office. Instead he just
-complained about the news media, and the special report
being a witch hunt. He claims he wasn't able to do his job
because of the investigation. Again this was his fault, there
was no excuse for him to open his big mouth and complain.
If he had kept his big ego under control, the media would
have said little about it.

The democrats are working hard to pass bills that will create
jobs and help the people of the country, but Trump and the
senate stands in the way. Trump wants to be like a king, and
get his way period. No compromise, no nothing. He just stands
in front of them and says this is what I want. If he doesn't get
it, he runs away and lies to the media. Just like a  spoiled little
kid, who runs crying to  his mommy when others won't play his
games.

Only about a third of the country say they want to keep Trump in
the white house. So I imagine Trump will spend the next year
and a half trying to convince  people the Democrats, and the
media are liars and hate him, because he beat H Clinton, and
he is the only good man for the job. Will people believe his lies,
or do they even care?

President Trump picked a man of color to run HUD. Saying he
should have a good understanding of poor peoples needs. Well
as it turns out, the man is more interested in furnishing his
office than his job. Spending thousands of tax dollars on dishes,
and other items. One would think he is running a high priced
restaurant instead of an office of family services.

He was asked by congress about reports from people not getting
the services they deserved. The man sat there and acted like
someone who didn't know anything about HUD, and tried to
tell congressmen he didn't need to answer them. Sounded to
me like he was trying to be a loyal member of Trumps
realm instead of someone doing their job. This person has no
excuse for not being able to answer questions, as he is a very
intelligence man.

It seems like almost everyone who works for Trump, will make
fools of them selves rather than turn against him or even tell
the truth.  We can only wonder what Trump tells them, to get
such loyalty. Even lawyers will stand in court and act like
first year law students, instead of competent lawyers. It
could be offers of money, or perhaps threats to ruin them.
Who can say? We know Trump threatens GOP congressmen
that he will try to prevent their reelection if they don't
do what he wants.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 11, 2019, 12:57:11 pm
I have been gone due to a problem connecting to furtopia.

The news media is promoting the debates between the democrats
running for president at the end of June. With 23 people running
it should be quite an event.

Trump is still doing all he can to block investigation by the democrats
on his interference of criminal investigations by the special counsel.
Even saying Mueller had written letters to apologize after his statements
last month. As usual Trump will never tell the truth if a lie will do. In
his mind at least. It's been his way for most of his life.

The senate continues to stonewall virtually every bill the house has
passed. Claiming there is no point in voting for a bill Trump won't
 sign. This is just an excuse as it's not the job of the senate to
let the president tell them what to do. It's time the leader of the
senate started following his oath of office and not worrying about
what Trump will tweet.

Even though many democrats are pushing for the impeachment of
president Trump, the speaker of the house is saying the people
of the country aren't ready to support it. I think she should start an impeachment inquiry at least. The constitution allows for this. If
they find Trump is guilty of crimes, they can condemn Trump
without involving the GOP run senate at all. After all the senate
can only remove Trump,  not indict him. Trump would claim
vendication if they didn't, even though their failure to remove
him would not prove his innocence.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 12, 2019, 01:09:55 pm
The GOP and many others worry the country is moving toward
socialism.  The problem I see is we already have socialism for
big business. In the past it was for railroads, and the aircraft
industry. Yes it was done to promote these industries, but
in many cases they are still being subsidized. The Oil and
gas industry for one. This is nothing but corporate socialism.

If those in the GOP are going to preach against socialism,
they should work to stop it for big business as well. But
no,  they want the money big business funnels into political
campaigns to keep them in power. The GOP claims they are
for jobs, but they don't support unions, or decent
wages for the working man or woman.

Left to the GOP we would have people dying in the
streets due to exposure and hunger. They have
fought to stop the passage of most ever social
program. They claim people should stand on their
own, and the disabled should beg in the streets or
die.  Just as it was 100 years ago. Trump claims
this will make America great again. Perhaps so if
your rich, or born rich as Trump was. He and the
GOP claims social programs are handouts for the
poor and lazy, and should be left to private charities.


Trump ran on immigration, and claims the united
states should be for natural born Americans. He
seems to  forget most people in this country are
descendants of immigrants.

Trump claims the democrats aren't doing anything but
investigate him, but they have passed over 200 bills
that are stuck in the GOP controlled senate. He claims
he could get work started on infrastructure, but what
he won't admit is he can't do it because of his tax
cuts which is costing the government billions in
revenue.

The GOP is against campaign reform because they
don't want the average person being able to run for
political office. They want to keep them for the richest
Americans who won't likely raise taxes, or vote for
social programs. Also they don't want term limits, so
charismatic politicians can stay in power for many years.

Political office should not be looked at as a career, but
a form of service to the country. One that is shared by
as many people as possible. People often think of them
selves as being indispensable after a few years in office.
This is another reason for term limits. New people bring
new ideas for old problems. Lobbyists would have less
control over members who can't be bought.

Trump claimed he was so rich he couldn't be bought,
but his campaign was barely started before his hand
was out to accept contributions from those wanting
favors. Now as president he still has his hand out for
every dollar he can get. He is making millions from his
hotel just down the street from the white house. When
he travels, he makes sure to stay at his resorts so he
can charge the tax payer for his own benefit.

Trump claims to be the healthiest man who ever was
president, but he couldn't even sit on a floor cushion
at a state dinner in Japan. Apparently fearing he would
be seen needing help getting up and down. With that
fat belly of his I doubt if he could even cross his legs. I
asked a doctor of mine if she thought Trump was fat,
and she nodded yes. He is hardly an example of a
healthy man.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 13, 2019, 12:48:24 pm
If anyone needed proof of Trumps lack of respect for the law,
his statements that he would accept help from foreigners
to get reelected should prove it to any thinking person. Of
course it's possible his supporters don't care if another country
tells them how to vote. Or perhaps they don't  care if Trump
is working for foreign countries to get their help, and
money to fill his own pockets and those of his family.

I can remember when people complained about a boss hiring
family members, but Trumps supporters don't seem to mind
when the GOP and Trump does it. The wife of the senate
leader is one of Trumps cabinet members. A woman who owns
a huge amount of stock in a company who supplies materials
to build roads across our country. And she has the cabinet
position that oversees road building of federal highways. Her
stock holding goes up in value each time she approves road
repair or building. She said she would sell that stock when
she was approved for the office, but failed to do so. So she
has made millions since being in office.

She is pushing to get road projects going in the sate that
her husband is the senator of. This to help him get
reelected. The very man who got her the cabinet job in
the first place.

It seems ever since Trump was elected, corruption
by the GOP and Trump continues to increase. Even
though Trump said he would work to stop it when
he ran for office. Just more of his lies, and the GOP
membership in congress is learning to lie the same
way.

This  kind of corruption will eventually destroy the
government and our economy. It has happened before
in other countries, and will happen here if we don't hold
our politicians accountable. It's all about power and money.
Love of either is the root of evil in any society. A democracy
will only survive if the public will stand up for what is
right, and vote to put good people in office.

Will Trump start a war with  Iran to get reelected? if he does
he and the GOP will suffer when the price of energy goes up
so much it puts the country and the world into a depression.
Unfortunately we all will suffer right along with them. Loosing
jobs and paying for high gas prices. I imagine Trump will tap
our strategic oil reserves trying to keep the driving public
happy, but that won't last long feeding our economy which
depends so much on energy.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 14, 2019, 12:30:13 pm
Trump is ignoring the Hatch act. This law states that non elected
people can't help elected officials run for office while doing their
government job. Trump want everyone he has hired to break
this law, and support his reelection no matter what.

Apparently Trump got some flack over his statements that he would
accept foreign help to win in 2020. So he is backing down  trying to
say he would only report it if was bad. He didn't say what he thinks is
bad though.

He tried to say as president he couldn't report foreign leaders to
the FBI. Well he should report any foreign country offering to help
him win. No matter who they are.

Accepting help to win an election is against the law, so Trump saying
he would do so is breaking the law. So I wonder why this doesn't make
him ineligible to run  for reelection in 2020? I am sure the GOP would
want to claim he hasn't been convicted.

It seems every time Trump brakes the law, most of the GOP
acts like they can't talk. They hide from the media and their
voters. Seems they are afraid Trump will tweet about
them.

The debate at the end of this month will have 20 of the 23
democrat candidates running for president. Of course the
3 who didn't make it are complaining a bit. Yet the rules
 for getting in the debate were set almost 6 months
ago. So it's more sour grapes than anything else. They
know there will be another debate in July, so they
can work to get in that one.

The speaker of the house isn't wanting to start any impeachment
hearings yet. She claims they need to  wait till more people are
on board to press the republicans to remove Trump. Well I don't
think an impeachment inquiry would hurt, and it would give them
more power to per-sue the crimes of Trump. As is Trump is going
to use every delaying tactic his lawyers can think of to drag it out.
He likely feels once the primary season starts the democrats will
back off. That is in January. So time will tell.

I get the feeling the news media is more interested in starting an
impeachment of Trump than anyone else. They have been talking
about it for some time. Trump should have been impeached within
six months of his inauguration to be honest. But the GOP wanted
to stick their heads in the sand, and ignore Trumps criminal activity.

It's time we put term limits on these people in congress. They want
to make a career out of being a politician. The trouble with that is many
will all but sell their soul to keep the job. Not all of them, but enough
that it creates corruption in government. Not just the GOP, but all
parties.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 15, 2019, 12:47:25 pm
Trump claims all politicians use foreign help when running for office.
This is more of his lies, or his ignorance. While it is possible one or
two may have done so , it's against the law. Trump says he would
have to see the information before turning it over, but this is wrong.
The FBI must look at it, and they can decide it it shows improper
activities or law breaking by someone running for office. It's not
the place of the president or candidate to be judge and jury
over an opponent.

It seems Trump supporters will let Trump get by with anything
as long as he is against abortion, homosexuals, and immigrants.

There is a name for this. It's called selling your soul to the devil.
Oh I am sure if asked they would deny it, but supporting Trump is
the same as patting a thief on the back after he stole your
possessions and raped your wife. Then tell him to come
back anytime.

Yes this is being extreme, but sometimes it takes an
extreme example to help people see what a corrupt
leader is doing to our country. People may think these
crimes of his are just breaking simple regulations, but
allowing someone in power to break laws can lead
others to do the same, and we have seen those Trump
calls great people do just that.

Yes, you may not like or agree with others, but
to have a safe society people have to work
together, and sometimes agree to disagree.
Forcing people to obey laws that go against
basic human rights will lead to violence or a revolution.

The ends never justify the means, especially when the
means hurt innocent people. Yet Trump does this all the
time. Trump like a child is testing us, to see how far he can
go, or get by with. He will continue to do this until he his
forced to stop. Our constitution presumes elected officials
will support or change the constitution, not break it, or our
laws. We the people have to hold them accountable, and not
listen to those paid to  support corrupt politicians. We much
educate ourselves so we can vote them out. Otherwise we
are doomed to live under the fist of tyranny. This is what
our founders fought against, and worked to create a country
that suffering people could escape to.

If we allow a minority of people who live by greed and
the desire of obtaining power we will loose our rights.
Just like a frog who can be boiled, unaware of his
fate, the people of a country can loose their rights one
by one till it's too late to get them back. This is what
Trump is doing. He is grabbing power by installing people
that will support him, even when he breaks the law.

He and the leader of the senate have been putting judges
in the courts. Judges who will support the GOP over what
the majority of the country desires.  The danger is the leader
of the senate is not a patriot, but a just say no tea party
radical. A party who wants to remake our government so
it will only support the rich. Support them if you wish to
live under their thumb as the surfs did during the middle
ages.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 16, 2019, 12:43:47 pm
When Trump tells his white house staff to break the law.
Congress should tell them they will not be paid if they
fail to obey subpoenas, the law, or our constitution,
including Trump.

It has been reported that the CIA isn't telling Trump are best
secrets for fear Trump will pass them along to our enemies.
Like China and Russia, or even North Korea.  If he thinks it
might help him personally.

No matter what Trump says, his actions show he cares little
if anything for our country. Much less his voters, or the GOP.
The bad part is they can't see it, or want to admit it.

President Trump, our so called genius claims he never makes
any mistakes, or forgets. Yet he wants to hide  or cover up his
errors in judgment with lies. He claims he answered written
questions the special counsel sent him. According to reports
his answers were he couldn't remember. This from a man
who calls himself a genius.

Every time he does an interview with media that isn't out to
help him. He makes mistakes he often has to correct after
being told how much damage it does to the GOP.

Even a liar like Trump finds it hard to keep track of all of his
lies. So he lies to cover his lies. Then blames the news media
for his troubles. (shakes head)

Trump implied during a tweet, he expected his voting base to
demand he stay in office, even if he looses the election in 2020.
Well he wouldn't be the first ex-president to try this. Only
problem is the duly elected man or woman would have the
right to have him tossed out of the white house. Perhaps
even in chains. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Trump
has his plane ready to take him out of the country on the
morning of January 20, 2021.

Trump told his attorney general to investigate the investigators
who were trying to find his connections to Russia. The 
investigators were the FBI with the permission of the court
to do so. They were not spies, as the attorney general was
told by Trump to say, but was the FBI doing their job.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 17, 2019, 12:42:05 pm
It seems people worry about a new president wanting to create
social programs. They shouldn't worry as only congress and the
senate can create them. A president can push for them, but in
most cases adding social programs is a slow process because
the GOP doesn't like any program that increases the size of
government. They claim they want people to  stand on their
own feet, and not be de-pendant on Government. This
sounds good, but doesn't work in the real world. People
get sick, or disabled and loose jobs. Without aid they
will turn to crime, or spread disease. This costs society
more than the social programs would in the first place. 

The supreme court made 2 decisions today. One was to  send
a case back to the Oregon supreme court. Telling them they
should give the religious beliefs of people more consideration.
Apparently the court didn't want to get into the political
weeds making a decision affecting the LGBTQ. Two, not
changing the rule that allows states to charge someone
with the same crime in state court after a prosecution
in federal court. Saying this does not create double
jeopardy for a defendant.

The pressure is on with the first presidential debate coming
in a little over a week. The candidates know a poor showing
will pretty much end their chances of getting the democrat
nomination for president.

Trump is officially declaring his run for reelection in 2020.
Yet in reality he has been running for a second term every
since 2016. Oddly enough all of his rally's have done little
to improve his chances. It's mostly due to him not reaching
out to new voters. He won't let anyone into his rally's
unless they declare they are a supporter. He uses the
excuse the rally is a private meeting of his voters. Trump
can't stand hecklers, apparently afraid they will hurt him.
Trump is a good speaker, but can't think on is feet. If he
tries he shoots himself in the foot with weird statements.

Trump will likely try to use immigration as  his main reason
to be reelected. Though the GOP would like for him to promise
health care, and lower drug prices. Only time will tell if Trump
follows their advice.  Even though his use of immigration didn't
help the GOP in 2018.

Trump like most authoritarian leaders have a ego problem.
They can't admit to themselves any  failure what so ever.
So when his pollsters told him he was behind in the polls,
he fired them. Saying they didn't do a proper job, because
he knows he has to be in the lead. His ego won't let him
accept the truth.

It's this kind of thing that causes people working for Trump
to always give him good reports, instead of the truth. This
problem has led to the loss of wars, and failures of countries
under dictators. This is why allowing one man or one political
party to run a government fails in the end. They start thinking
they are too smart to fail, and will punish the people if they
try to oppose them.

Trump never has had a majority of support in this country.
He continue to deny this fact, claiming it's fake news. His
denial may hurt him, because if his supporters start thinking
Trump will win, they may not come out to vote in the numbered
he will need. I think this is what partly cost H.Clinton the
election in 2016. Many of those who supported her didn't take
the time to vote, thinking she would win.

Without strong party support, someone like Trump wouldn't
last as president. The GOP doesn't really like Trump, they
just use him to get their way.  The vice president would
sign their bills, but he doesn't have the voter support Trump
has, so they want to keep Trump. Hoping to stay in power.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 18, 2019, 01:37:44 pm
Trump seems to think he can bully Iran into submission. Well I don't
think they are concerned about meeting with Trump as the north Korean
leader was. They know Trump is a liar, and can't be trusted. I imagine they
are watching his actions and not paying any attention to his words.

We can hope some radical in Iran doesn't do something that Trump can
point to as an excuse to attack Iran. I don't really think Trump really
wants to  tip the scales too far. A war would would stop the
transport of about 30% of the worlds oil needs.  So I am sure the GOP
leaders have hammered Trump with the knowledge that the economy
would be wrecked over a war with Iran.

Trump is claiming he will remove millions of ill eagle immigrants over
the next several months. Well he is going to damage the economy by
removing thousands of workers from jobs, many of which are needed
to keep the economy running. His supporters should understand many
immigrants fill jobs that many Americans refuse to take. Stoop labor for
one, and other jobs that may not be fun to do.

Trump may have the idea these people are just people with
their hand out. They are not all criminals. You can be sure if
a immigrant shot someone Trump would be the first to  talk
about it. They are escaping crime and death. They are
not wanting to cause trouble, they just want a better life,
and are willing to work for it.

Trump could take the money he wants to spend on his stupid
wall and hire judges, and others to process these people. Also
he could send aid to hes countries. This would encourage these
people to  stay home. The trouble is it wouldn't make the news
or be a big wall he can point to. Trump just wants to win another
term as president, by making his supporters think he is doing
something to help stop immigration. His wall will never be built
but Trump wants to  say he is building it, even though little is
being done.

He says this will stop drugs, when most come in Trucks, trains
and from China. Some come from Canada as well. The wall is
just a idea Trump uses to get votes from people who want to
believe Trump is for the country. which he is not.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 19, 2019, 12:52:47 pm
Another one of Trumps so called great men was found to
be inappropriate for the office Trump chose him for. Our
country is being run by Trumps gut. He chooses people
because his gut tells him to. Because of this he has had
the most number of job turnovers of any president.

Anyone can make a mistake, but Trump works at it. I
am sure this is why he went bankrupt so many times.
His gut caused him to make bad choices. So now his
gut is making bad choices for our country.

It's time we had a president who makes decisions
based on facts, and not some stupid feeling of his.
A feeling that is driven by how someone looks
on TV, instead of ability. And of course Trump
picks rich men so he can impress them with
the oval office. He doesn't care about anyone
unless they have a fat bank account or fame
he can exploit.

If Trump had been a honest businessman he could
have been a fine president. A good businessman or
woman knows themselves best of all. They know
their strengths and weaknesses. They know how
to make good decisions, and when they don't have
enough information, they go find it instead of
guessing as Trump does.

Last night at his latest rally, Trump told his supporters
about his2016 win. How he won against H. Clinton.
He just can't get Clinton out of his head. One of
Trumps biggest problems is his  super big ego. So
he will talk about anything that will cause his crowds
to cheer. Now he is feeding them with hate for anyone
who isn't going to support him.

Will Trump go too far, and send his people out to beat
up democrats and others who don't support him? He
was getting very close to  doing it during his last rally.
Telling them the democrats were out to destroy the
country, and their way of life. This is how the far right
talks to new converts. They use hate to excite their
crowds. People who have been reformed from cult
groups like the KKK say the same.

It was hate that drove the brown shirts in Germany out to
beat up Jews and destroy homes and business of people
who didn't agree with them. We can only hope we don't
see this kind of thing starting in our country. I don't think
Trump wants anything like this, but he wants to win so bad
he  may go too far.

Instead of working with the democrats Trump wants to fight
them. If he cared for the country he would tell the GOP they
need to work with the democrats. He would tell the senate to
stop sitting on  the bills from the house, and find compromises
for the good of our country. But no he can't change is ways.
all his life he has been able to get his way, and now he things
it should be the same as president.

I just wish those who support Trump cared for the country
as much as they say. So far it's all about Trump, a man
who has no idea how to run this great country. All he
knows is how to divide us all, this for his own benefit
and no one else.

The only way to stop immigration is to remove the
reason for doing so. People only want to leave their
homes to for health and safety. Trump wants to plug
up immigration at the wrong place.  He needs to go
to the source and make life better there. Also stop
businesses from hiring them,  but no even Trump
hires illegal immigrants.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 20, 2019, 12:26:01 pm
The supreme court decided a www1 memorial shaped
like a cross can stay. People who felt it was a government
supported religious symbol had fought to have the 40
foot high cross removed, or placed on private property.
Considering many  if not most veterans grave stones are
shaped like a cross, it seems reasonable to me, even
though the cross is symbolic of the christian religion.

Will Trump strike back at Iran, after they shot down
one of our drones over international air space? Trump
has been treating Iran like he did North Korea, thinking
they would ask to talk rather than go to war. Well Iran
doesn't care about talking to a liar like Trump. So how
far will Trump go? He made the statement that they
made a big mistake destroying our drone. So time will
tell.

I wish that the media didn't try to make a big deal
out of every misstatement by democrats. They are
just helping Trump, just like they did in 2016. When
they felt they had to show fault by the democrats
every time they found fault of Trump. This gives
Trump a lot of free coverage and he knows it.

Trump is getting millions in support by dark money
and political action committees. Big business is
giving millions to to Pac's that support GOP
members running for election when they promise
to vote against regulations and laws that cost big
business a lot of money. It's time we pull the plug
on this type of corruption by the GOP and even
some democrats.

It will take putting a lot of honest people in office
because getting elected costs a lot of money, and
politicians are glad to  get money, even if the source
is corrupt. I think people should have to show they
have minimal support, then fund them with tax
money. Cutting out big money all together.

Trump is heading back to the far east toward the end
of the month. He plans to meet the leader of China. He
hopes to get concessions from China. Trump would
like to be able to say he won, and will remove the
tariffs on China. Though Trump wants us to think
he will get what he wants, but I would be surprised
if China gives in to Trump. I doubt if the tariffs are
hurting China as much as Trump claims they are.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 21, 2019, 01:04:05 pm
Reports are Trump decided to not retaliate with a strike
on Iran because it would have likely killed 150 people. It
would be nice if he cared about loss of lives caused by
other decisions of his. Yes, it is good Trump backed off
any attack. After all it was only a unmanned drone.
Of course if Iran continues to make attacks, Trump
may decide to  retaliate anyway.

According to a military source, we could have saved the
drone. Did Trump order the military to not defend our
drones? If so why? Preventing a missile from taking
out a drone shouldn't be a political problem. In fact
it should have been a bragging point for Trump.

Or is Trump wanting an attack on a drone to be
successful so he can play mind games with Iran. I
think Trump wants a face to face meeting with the
leader of Iran, so he can come back home claiming
he made a big deal to prevent a war. Just has he
has tried to do with North Korea.

I would be surprised if Iran falls for Trump and his
lies. They aren't looking for Trumps blessings like
the North Korean leader was. This acting like a bully,
then offering a hand of friendship seems to  be a
ploy of Trump. This will solve nothing of substance,
but only delaying the problem to a future time when
Trump won't be president, and will please his voters.

Trump ran saying Obama gave Iran too much when he
made a treaty to stop Iran's development of a nuclear
bomb. So he pulled the U S out of the treaty, and put
sanctions back on them. All this because he wants to
make Obama out to be a terrible president.

Just shows how little Trump thinks of our country or
even the world. Presidents of the U S have always tried
to limit nuclear weapons, but Trump doesn't care about
anything but himself, and is too stupid to realize what
a nuclear war would do to the world. Perhaps he feels
he can hide in a shelter for a few weeks then everything
would be fine. This would be a fantasy. It would take
many years for our planet to recover, if at all.

Though Joe Biden has worked for civil rights most of his
career, he seems to be having trouble understanding the
needs of  minorities. People who are targeted by the police
and law enforcement over white people. They are treated
unfairly by the justice system as well. It's time both parties
start waking up to the needs of all people of color.

Even though the democrats do claim they want to make a
difference, they end up letting the far right keep them from
doing more to help all minorities. We can hope this won't keep
people of color from getting out to vote in 2020. Or we can
expect more years of far right hate controlling our government.

It's not just Trump, but people like the GOP senate leader that
cares little or nothing for people of color. He doesn't even
care if people have health care or not. All he wants to do is
pack the courts with conservative judges who feel the same
way.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 22, 2019, 12:38:48 pm
Reports are showing Trump was telling lies as usual when he
said he didn't know the number of deaths an attack might
occur just before he was to order it. Casualties are part of any
planing of an military attack. Trump would have been told
this in the beginning, not at the end as he tried to say. Also
and attack would have been on infrastructure not the people
involved. The destruction of a radar facility would not have
had 150 people in it. Radar dishes are remotely operated,
because they know they are subject to being destroyed in
any attack. So we can only guess what kind of game Trump 
is trying to  play.

Trump ran with lies about immigration. He claims he wants
to fix it, but only wants to block the boarder with Mexico.
What about people who overstay their visa's? Why not stop
businesses from hiring illegal aliens? No, Trump just wants
to build a wall instead of fixing the real problems. Trump
even had a sign put on a bit of wall Obama had built. With
the name "Trumps Wall" in big letters. So far little of any
wall has been built, in spite of what Trump claims. Trump
wants something people can see with their eyes, because
he feels it will give him more votes.

Trump has been claiming Obama started separating families
at the boarder, but it's just another lie. Trump puts kids in
cages, and responsible for setting up large prison camps
to hold immigrants instead of  working to increase the number
of processing centers. In his mind, making life tough for
immigrants will make them stay home. What he doesn't seem
to understand, is no matter how bad he makes it, it's better
than what they left at home. Trump has no idea what it's like
to be really miserable. I imagine to him a miserable day is
when his cook didn't make him a chocolate cake.

Trump doesn't like sanctuary cities, saying they are  high
crime centers. What he doesn't say is the crime isn't by
immigrants, but Americans. Now he says he will have ICE
remove 2000 immigrants this Sunday. They will watch churches
and other areas people gather to find as many as they can.
I think he is doing this hoping to raise his bad poll numbers.

With Trump it's lie, deny, cover up and hide. This is has been his
habit for years. Now he is trying it with congress. Most likely
just to delay, as I am sure his lawyers have told him it won't
stand up in court.

Since Trump has been president the air we breathe has
become less healthy. In fact science is saying there may
be an additional 1400 people die each year due to it. The
reason being Trump has removed regulations that were
designed to improve air quality.

This is only one of many dangers Trump is creating for
the American public, if not the world. This isn't all Trumps
fault. The GOP leadership is working hard to end all
regulations that might reduce big business profits.

The GOP and Trump claim they are trying to save jobs,
but would remove the minimum wage if they could get by
with it. They do all they can to get rid of unions, and life
saving regulations. Just to save their rich friends money.

Some claim the democrats only want to redistribute wealth.
Though there is some truth with this, The rich have gained
their wealth on the backs of the average Americans. Who's
taxes built roads, bridges, and much of the infrastructure
that makes it possible for businesses to thrive.

Over the last 40 years the rich have worked hard to cut
their taxes, and done little to help the middle class grow.
This is self defeating, because without a strong middle
class, big business will find it hard to sell goods, and
as the infrastructure decays they won't be able to grow.
Also a strong middle class pays the taxes needed to
keep our country strong.

Trump ran for president saying the national debt is getting
out of hand, but the first thing he did was cut taxes for
the rich, including himself  which just increases the debt
even more. The GOP and Trump claims the tax cut will
grow the economy, but so far this hasn't happened.
Even after two years.  So the debt climes and the GOP
wants to cut entitlement programs like social security,
medicare, and medicate to pay for their crazy ideas,
and tax cuts for the rich.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 23, 2019, 12:48:44 pm
The democrats now have 24 people running for the nomination
to run for president. Makes me wonder with six months to go,
how big a crowd we will have in the democrat primaries.

The democrats are going to have to get tough with  Trump
or he will step all over them. It means nothing to him to lie
and break the law, as long as it benefits him. Trump said he
didn't want to kill Iranians over shooting down a drone, but
he is willing to put thousands of Latino immigrants health at
risk just because he wants to be reelected. He uses the excuse
that he is protecting the country. What he doesn't want people to
know this country always benefits from immigration as it has for
almost 200 years.

During the first part of the 20th century we accepted a half million
immigrants a year. People who wanted a better life and to escape
tyrannical governments. They made our country  better, because
they wanted a better life for their children. Not to turn the
country into one filled with crime.

There is one man in the GOP running against Trump, as if he
needed any excuse to stand in front of a nearly riotous crowd,
Trump will likely ignore him and talk about H. Clinton. Or
anything that will get the crowd chanting and cheering, to
feed his ego. I fear these people will only listen to good
things about Trump, and not the facts that show him to be
the worst president in our history. To ignore historical facts
that show we need to have friends abroad. Trump plays up
to dictators who will never be real friends of anyone, because
they give him money. We can only  hope our old friends will
forgive us in the future.

The large number of immigrants showing up at our southern
border is due to Trump and his threats to close the border.
They apparently feel they must come now or forever be
locked out. This is making Trump look bad, so he is making
threats again to go after all illegal immigrants, hoping to
improve his poll numbers.

Trump lies, claiming Obama started putting kids in cages,
and he is just following it up. What he doesn't say is how
many millions he is making for these companies to run
private prison camps to hold immigrants. People who
will support him during the next election.

The justice department who is now supporting Trump with
his new fixer, the attorney general. Is sending lawyers out
to try stupid arguments in courts for Trumps benefit. Judges
forced to listen in discuss as smart lawyers make fools of
themselves following the AG's orders. It seems everyone
is afraid of Trump, for fear of loosing their jobs.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 24, 2019, 12:52:07 pm
President Trump puts more sanctions on Iran, mainly on the
leadership. This includes banking and other financial services
the U S controls.

Trump continues to act like a businessman instead of a president.
He thinks all he has to do is go talk to  the leaders of Iran to
solve the problems we have with them. In reality it takes a lot
of diplomatic work to work out differences between countries.

But Trump doesn't believe in diplomacy. He thinks two leaders
can work it out. Just as two business men would. The trouble
is a country is full of people leaders don't control. So it takes
time to work out all the compromises needed to make treaties
work for both countries.

I don't think Trump will ever understand this. His common sense
plans just don't work, because working  with countries is too 
complex for common sense ideas to accomplish anything.

The GOP and Trump say they are against socialism. Does that
mean they want to have individuals paying for the  following
services?

Fire protection.
Police protection.
Education for children
Emergency services.

Some would say we already pay for these. Yes we do with
with taxes. And anything paid for with taxes is socialistic.
The main reason we have these social programs is for the
common good. So why wouldn't health care be for the
common good? And so would higher education.

Some would say I don't want to help pay to send a rich
kid to college. We pay for their protection, so why not the
education too? When they start making money they will be
paying more in taxes, so it's for the good of all to help them
make more money. We could limit higher education to
bachelor degrees and trade schools, but it's for the good
of the country to have highly educated people. But if they
decide to use their education to benefit another country.
They should have to repay their cost of education here
first.

Some might not like this, but most businesses frown on
employees using their training for other jobs. (moonlighting)

The GOP is just wanting to  protect their rich supporters.
Coverage for help care started when someone created
a business called insurance. It's unfortunate for uncounted
numbers of Americans that we didn't put government
health care in place first. Because insurance businesses
work to  increase profits on the backs of unfortunate
people.

Though we did create basic education for children from
grade 1 to 12. But people found they could make a lot
of money with higher education. Businesses have done
much to help make  our country great, but in some case
it has done much to hurt people. It takes laws and regulations
to keep many businesses from taking advantage of the public.
This is why we have monopoly laws.

We should be careful with our development of social programs,
but when it's for the common good we shouldn't depend on
private businesses to do so. Individuals in many cases will try
to over charge due to greed, and the desire for power.

Many have used the excuse that free enterprise and capitalism
should be paramount, but the good of the people has to be
considered, or oppression by the powerful can, and will result.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 25, 2019, 01:19:20 pm
A woman of integrity has accused Trump of rape. What does
Trump say? She isn't pretty enough for him to bother.  That
implies he would rape a woman if he was attracted to her.

It is sad how little his supporters even care if he did it or not.
Trump once said he could shoot someone and get by with it. It
seems this may be true. When Trump said he would only pay
attention to a woman he liked the looks of at a rally, you could
here cheers from  the audience. Just shows what kind of people
support trump. I don't think many are that way, but some of of
them are. It is sad how many men only see a woman for her
body and  nothing else. This is how Trump is, and he plays to
those who are like he is.

Trump had said he didn't mind insults, but when Iran called him
mentally ill, Trump lost his temper. It's well known that Trump has
a thin skin when people bad mouth him. So it's not a surprise.

I really don't think Iran is responding the way Trump thought
they would. He seems to  think everyone can be led around
by their pocket book. Well this isn't likely to work with Iran or
even North Korea in the end.
You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 26, 2019, 12:49:30 pm
How far will GOP congressmen and senators go , just to
get a pat on the head from Trump? They lie for him, and
kiss his feet so he won't tweet bad things about them.
They don't even care when he breaks the law or steps on
the constitution. All they care about is their job and
keeping the GOP in power. So the rich will have the
country for their own playground, and the rest of us
can get by the best way we can.

President Trump tries to  say the democrats are out
to get him. So if he is so very innocent, why does
he want to hide and cover everything up? He should
be wanting people to talk to congress, not run from
them. Perhaps he fears they might not stay loyal
to him.

The only reason I have heard for his hiding
his taxes, is everyone will try to find fault with them.
If they have been audited as he claims, they should
be just fine anyway. Of course if a investigation was
to show Trump cheated, he might have to pay back
taxes and penalties.

Now Mueller, (Not a Trump person according to Trump)
is going to testify to congress, So Trump and his friends
are trying to claim there is nothing more to say. I am
sure the GOP will try to make a circus out of it. They
are so afraid if they don't help Trump enough he will
tweet bad things about them.

Immigration at our southern border is growing due
to Trumps bad decisions. These people are afraid if
they wait they will never be able to enter the united
states. They are willing to risk everything to escape
death and starvation in their own country. To sacrifice
 them selves for their children. Trump having no
feelings for anyone but himself cares nothing for
them.

Trump stood with a straight face and lied saying
he is treating kids better than Obama did. To hear
Trump it's all the democrats fault. Yet Trump is
paying 750 dollars a day to care for each kid.
These overpriced care takers ought to be thrown
in jail for how they treat the kids. If parents
did the same thing to their children they
would be put in jail. The GOP leaders,
and Trump have no shame. I don't know
where they get these so called care
takers, but any decent person would
quit rather than treat kids the way
they have been told too.

Tonight the democrat debates start, if you can
call it a debate. With 10 on stage teach
night they won't have much time to answer
questions, or state their policies. I think it's
more of an media event than anything else.
To show off the candidates to  the American
public. We can be sure Trump will be tweeting
like a big fat bird while it's in progress. Trump
only respects himself, so he will likely say
anything to get attention.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 28, 2019, 10:36:42 pm
The supreme court showed it's racists stripes by not allowing
federal courts to  limit extreme gerrymandering. No matter
how racially they are designed. It was a 5/4 decision by
conservative justices supporting the GOP.

It is wrong no matter which party uses this totally partisan
discussing undemocratic redistricting to hold power. The only
defense to this is to put people in state governments who
will vote to not use gerrymandering in the first place.

The other decision by the court was to not allow the question
on citizenship to  be place on the 2020 census. A proven desire by
the GOP to limit voting by Hispanics, and other minorities.. The
court did say they would look at this again if the GOP could come
up with a better supporting lie. Not exact words, but it was implied
by the chief justice. So Trump is trying to  come up with one.

Trump was sitting with Putin today, making jokes about our
so called fake news with him. Putin like Trump wish to control
the press. He even made a joking remark to Putin that he
must not mess with the U S election. Trump remarked the
other day that it was only his business what he discussed
with Putin. As if Trump owned the government, and we all
worked for him. It's the business of the government when
a president makes deals with a foreign power. Especially one
who is out to  destroy our way of life.

I don't have anything to say about the democrat debates at
this time.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 29, 2019, 12:54:52 pm
The democratic debates show there is a lot of support for progressive
ideas. I just wonder if the moderates and independent voters are ready as
well. If not we could end up with  Trump again. Because the GOP voters
will likely come out in large numbers to support Trump, and the democrats
need independents to help them win. I am not a big fan of  Joe Biden, but
he is a moderate, and may give democrats the best chance to beat
Trump.

Hopefully the democrats can break through the conservative barrier and
show Trumps supporters he really is a crooked corrupt man who should be
impeached. To show he is only helping himself and not the country as he
claims.

Okay, if the democrats continue to bow to the GOP and Trump
can we expect the voting public to support them? They voted for
a bill that is supposed to help immigrant kids at the border with
Mexico, but only with the promise of Trump and the GOP to use the
money to help them. Trump will likely use the money to expand
his prison camps of misery. He has no plan to do anything, but
create more misery and pain for immigrants. Because he thinks
it will get him reelected, an make him millions and the  people
running those camps that should be called concentration camps
a lot of money.

We have to call a dog a dog, and not cozy up to  people who
have no morals. People who only want to hold power over the
rest of us. While doing all they can to enrich themselves.
This country wasn't created to make billionaires, but
to be a refuge of the downtrodden, so they can make a
better life for us  all, and not just for a few.

History has shown us that the powerful will treat everyone
else like dirt. They will lie and cheat, or do anything that will
keep them in power. Just look at the middle ages. In those
times people only survived if the powerful wished to allow
it. People may think times like this could not return, but
already countries like China, and Russia only give people
rights that benefit the leadership of those countries.

Trump started calling the news media fake, because he knew
the news if believed, would spell his end. Trump lives to lie.
So he has to tell his supporters he is really telling the truth,
or joking, and that the media is the ones who are telling lies.
And to say everyone who doesn't support him is against them
and the country.

While it is true an autocrat can run a country easier than a
president can, but one man or woman is never smart enough
to make laws for millions of people. Dictators around the world
like to  think they are smart, or want the praise of the people to
feed their ego. Then when their bad ideas cause pain and death
for the people, they have to use force to stay in power. This is
why all autocrats suppress a free news media, because if the
people learn the truth, they may be deposed. I think Trump
asks autocrats for ideas about public control.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 30, 2019, 12:50:57 pm
President Trump met with the North Korean leader for a photo op,
A handshake to help Trump say he is still working to make peace
in the region. This changed nothing except to  give both leaders
a way to tell those in their own country how good they are.

Even though Trump claims success, North Korea is still building nuclear
material for bombs, and likely building more bombs and intercontinental
missiles as well. Trump is saying Obama tried to meet with North Korea
which is another one of his lies. Obama never offered to meet with them.
Knowing it would only give a murdering regime credibility. Trump
seems to think if I am nice, they will be nice back. This is a ridiculous
plan that no world leader would use. These strong man leaders
only respect power, and nothing  else.

Trump wants a Nobel Peace prize very bad, because Obama got one,
and if he doesn't it will drive him crazy. I am sure he thinks he deserves
one, but has done nothing to earn one. They don't give them out for
failures like his so called success with North Korea.

The Republican party, a party that used to support law and order, is
going out of their way to prevent voting by anyone they feel might
vote for democrats. Now with a conservative partisan supreme
court things will get worse. If people don't get out and vote the
GOP will take permanent control of the government for years to
come.

Once they  have that control, they will try to privatize all social
programs. They want the federal government sized down to the
very minimum to only benefit the rich and powerful. So if your an
average American, minority, woman, LGBQ, or handicapped
individual you will have to depend on yourself. The GOP doesn't
want the federal government involved in aid or defense for
anyone, but  their rich supporters.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 01, 2019, 12:58:02 pm
 It appears the Trump team is afraid of senator Harris, because
she is gaining on Joe Biden. They are trying to say she isn't
black enough to talk about black issues. Well I don't think African
Americans are going to fall for such talk. Even though Trump
supporters  are wanting to divide the black vote.

If Joe Biden wants to win the nomination he is gonna have to
own up to mistakes he made in the past. Acting like Trump by
denying everything isn't likely to work. No one is perfect, and
the democrats did some shameful things trying to work with
the GOP in the past, and he should admit it.

It appears Iran has exceeded their possession of enriched uranium
according to the agreement they signed with Obama. Trump pulled
out of this agreement last year. Since then he increased sanctions
on Iran. This may help Trump gain support from Europe, because
they have no desire to see the middle east fill with nuclear bombs.

Trump is claiming success with his meeting with North Korea. Seems
North Korea would agree to freeze their nuclear program if Trump
removed the sanctions on North Korea. That would be a good start
if  it includes giving up their nuclear weapons over time, along with
verification. As is they are still building missiles and bombs. One
can't believe the North Korean leader, much less Trump. North
Korea has made promises in the past, only to break them later. So
only time will tell. Mean while Trump will brag about it.

I think Trump is jealous of the authority dictators have over their
populations. How loyal their people are, and the way they snap
to attention when their  leader looks at them. We have seen this
in the White House when he has meetings with staff. The way
they kiss up to Trump and follow his every whim. Trump really
wants to be treated like royalty and with respect, but he doesn't
seem to  understand that respect has to be earned, not bought.

Trump is like a little kid when it comes to military hardware. He is
wanting to have a big show of military equipment in and over
Washington DC for part of the forth of July celebration. He wants
to make a big political speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial
as well. Personally I consider this whole thing a GOP driven event,
and they should pay for everything except the normal fireworks
display. As is the tax payer will be stuck with the tens of millions
that this ego driven event of Trump will cost.

The military has been trying to explain to Trump that heavy military
equipment will wreck the streets if they try to make a parade out of
it. Trump still wants the hardware. He seems to  think it will impress
other countries. Well they already know what we have. Other countries
like  North Korea, China and Russia like to show off their goose
stepping soldiers, and equipment for their own ego. Not to impress
the U S A. I think Trump feels this flag waving will get him more
votes, and could care less about the cost to tax payers.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 02, 2019, 01:37:49 pm
I wonder if those military guys and gals liked it when Trump told
them they had to feed his ego by giving him a parade on the 4th.
I mean it's likely they would have rather enjoyed the day with
family and friends. Instead of spending a hot day in a dress
uniform.

I am sure Trump knows the people who support him love seeing
a display of our military power. This is the first time any president
has tried to turn independence day into more of a celebration of
himself, than the country. Past presidents understood independence
day is for the people, and not the president. But Trump will use any
opportunity to show off.
 
Trump still owes 7 million dollars to the Washington DC park service
over his inauguration in 2016. Even though he had raised over a 100
million dollars  to cover the costs, he just can't  turn loose of a dollar
if he thinks he can get by without paying his bills. Trump has done
this in the past, forcing people to sue him, if they want their money.

I find it hard to understand why people think Trumps cheats and law
breaking is so smart. I really don't think they would like it if Trump
cheated them out of their money, but I guess it's okay as long
as it some one else's money.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 03, 2019, 12:34:15 pm
I wonder what Trump supporters think now, that one of 
Trumps government agencies has reported with pictures
of the atrocities being placed on immigrants along the
Mexican border. I know they want to believe it's a
news media conspiracy, but this time the news is just
reporting a Trump administration report of over
crowding, lack of sanitation, food, and very poor
treatment of little kids, and adults. I have a hunch
Trump blew his top when he found his people
silt the beans about his treatment of these people.

There was a rather odd occurrence yesterday. The VP was
immediately called to the White House. Though he was on
route elsewhere at the time. Also Trumps twitter account
was totally quiet for 6 hours, which is very unusual. This
This leads us to think Trump, our so called healthy president
may have had a serious health issue. I doubt if we will
ever find out unless it keeps him from rally's and other
speaking events.

Oh my. There be tanks in Washington DC. You suppose Trump is
worried that the democrats are going to invade the White house?
Obviously not, but we would be better off if Trump was playing
with military toys on a big game table instead.

Hopefully none of the many underground  tunnels under the
streets and grounds near the capital and White House don't
collapse under the weight of heavy military equipment. This
will be a first test of them, many of which date back to before
world war 2.

I am sure many veterans would rather Trump spend tax dollars
to help the VA instead. Many of them have to  wait months to
get mental, and other needed health care.

Trump still claims he will have the question of citizenship for
the 2020 census. Even though printing of the forms without it
have been cleared to start. Trump doesn't want to loose no
matter what it costs the country.

Senator Harris is still climbing in the polls after her showing in
the debate last month. Joe Biden and Sanders have slipped
somewhat. Warren is still gaining and strong as well.  The News
media is almost giddy about reporting all this. Most of
which means very little with six months to the first primary.
A lot can happen between now and then. It's often
hard to  have a policy for a primary that works well
for the national election too.

Personally I would like to see a woman president, but
unfortunately many don't think  women can  handle the
job. I think this hurt H. Clinton as well.

ou can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 04, 2019, 12:21:01 pm
Alaska is having record high temperatures. In Anchorage where  the
average high is usually in the 60's it's in the mid 80's, and air conditioning
is a rarity. So global warming is going to melt more than the ice. It
could end up with people dead from heat stroke.

Also high temperatures around the world are causing fires, and
water shortages. Some how I think this is just the beginning if
global warming isn't  properly dealt with.

Will it rain on Trumps parade? There are possible storms predicted for
the area. So his supporters may end up wet, and if it's cloudy, the air
show will be a bust.

Trump has had a VIP section set up for the show. I  kind of imagine there
will be a tent over them, or they will be sweating it out after paying
many thousands of dollars to shake Trumps little hands. Meanwhile
Trump supporters will have to deal with the heat or rain on their own.

For the good of the country I hope Trump doesn't try to turn this
into a rally for his reelection. If he does, it could trigger fights in
the crowd, as unlike his standard rally there will be those who
don't support Trump in the crowd. Some of his supporters use the
excuse we should support the president, even if he isn't a good
person. I might agree if Trump didn't think he is above the law
and ignores the constitution.

Trump has decided he will ignore the supreme court, and use an
executive order to put the citizenship question on the Census.
It shows the justice department under Trumps attorney general
is ignoring the constitution as well, by turning against the court
on Trumps behalf. 

Trump is likely pushing for the count of citizenship to help him get
votes, but if fewer people take the census it will affect more than
politics. Big business uses census data, and will affect money for
schools, and many other government funded programs. Like many
other things, common sense ideas sound good, but can cause a
lot of problems overall.

I often wonder  how many of the do nothing committees that have
existed for many many years, till exist under Trump. Most of these
were created to buy votes from political parties.  These committees
waste millions in tax dollars, and have little to do with government.
People on these committees are basically just showing up to sign in
to show they were there, then leave. Yet they are paid for a days work.
It's part of the good old boy system to get the other parties vote. Both
parties have been responsible for this waste of tax money.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 05, 2019, 12:57:36 pm
I think VP Joe Biden would make a good president, but he needs to
stop being so defensive. He should just let it go and say that was a
different time and lets look to the future. If the democrats start back
biting each other, they will give Trump a lot to hit them with.

Personally I think the news media wants to see controversy
among the candidates. It makes better news than if things are
running smooth.

Trump is bragging on the job numbers for June, but I wonder
why he didn't mention those for May? Could be because they
were poor? He never mentions things that don't look good for
him. He continues to claim how much our military has grown
since he was elected. Well it takes a lot of  years to build up a
military. All the equipment that was parked in Washington DC
likely existed before Trump ran for president. Yet Trump claims
otherwise. No one mentions that military cut backs were part
of the GOP desire to cut spending.

When Trump made his speech before the Lincoln Memorial he
mentioned a airport was attacked during the revolutionary
war. I wonder how many planes were destroyed. Trump
of course had an excuse, claiming the rain messed up his
teleprompter. Perhaps, but even without a written speech
any adult would know there were no airports during the
revolutionary war. Trump said he was rattled by the crowd
and weather. Well the crowds at his rally's don't seem to
rattle him, so it's just another one of his many lies, because
he never wants to admit any mistake.

Trump claims he is a strong leader, but he never wants any
one in the room when he talks to other leaders. It seems to
me a strong leader would want the world to see how tough
they are when talking and dealing with other leaders.  Not
cower and hide. I remember when Trump met with the Mexican
president. Trump was anything but strong. When he had a news
conference with Putin, he showed no strength at all.

We can only hope he doesn't beg and cower when he is alone
with a strong leader like Putin. That's not to say he shouldn't
compromise, but we expect our presidents to stand up for our
country and values.

Trump seems to think he only needs to  talk to other leaders to
make good deals. Well the problem is talking to a leader is the
end of a process. Not at the start which gives up all the  marbles
to begin with. Decisions need to be worked out first to get differences
and other issues worked out. Otherwise problems will still exist. This
is Trump wanting to deal with world problems just as he would with a
business. Well countries don't work the same as businesses do, and
it's time Trump learns this.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 06, 2019, 12:50:24 pm
Trump has the entire justice department looking for a way to circumvent
the supreme court, so he can get a citizenship question on the Census.
This has been a desire of the GOP. They feel the poor and immigrants
won't fill out the Census, because they don't trust the government. so
this will give more numbers to people who generally support the GOP.
This ends up hurting states, because with smaller numbers they get
less representation in the federal government.

Trump wants to claim the Census is for citizens only, but this is a lie,
The Census is a body count so the government will know the needs
of the population as a whole.  Not just citizens.

Where is the country going when we allow our government to treat kids
worse than animals? Where are the people who should be in the streets
calling for the impeachment of a man that would be in jail if he wasn't
president.

If we don't want immigrants, then send them back home. Don't put them
in cages just to make a lot of money for filthy money grubbing  private
security businesses. Businesses who hire people who have no business looking
after the needs of innocent children. Much less adults looking for freedom and
safety for their families.

President Trump wants to stand in front of our flag spouting patriotism  to
benefit himself, not our nation.  Many men in the past have used this same
tactic to gain power, because they know people who respond will work harder
to win change than the rest of the people. This is how Hitler grew to power
in Germany. claiming the Jews, and poor immigrants would ruin the country.
Now Trump is doing much the same claiming immigrants will  wreck our
economy and take jobs. At least he isn't having them killed as Hitler did.
 Trump like others think they know whats best for the people. This
never fails to end up hurting more than helping. And they
never want to admit they are wrong.

Will we, like the people of post war Germany have to live down the
shame of  Trump, as they had to with Hitler? Only time will tell, 
but the longer Trump is in power, the worse things will get.

It was immigrants who made this country great, not self centered
money grubbers like Trump. A man who has used the office of
president to make himself even richer. Sucking up to countries
like Saudi Arabia because they give him millions of dollars.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 07, 2019, 12:52:54 pm

If anyone thinks Trump is out to help the little guy, they best get there
head out of the sand, and read the Mueller report. Trump only cares for
himself, and nothing else. Oh he talks the talk, but it's just a bunch of
lies. He will say anything trying to make his supporters believe him.

Just listen to his speeches, when he lies he repeats it over and over. It's
a sales gimmick to make something sound believable. Trump is a lousy
business man, but a con man to his core. He would have made a great
carnival barker. It's a shame he doesn't use his talents to  help our
country instead of himself.

It turns out boarder patrol men and women are trained to be-rate and
mistreat immigrants at our border with Mexico. Trump thinks if they are
mistreated they will leave and not return. Other wise he would just ship
them back home. He claims he can't send them home because of our
asylum laws. This is just an excuse, since when has Trump worried about
laws or the constitution.  He only follows the laws or the constitution when
it suits him.  His supporters think Trump is strong, but he is nothing but
a loud mouthed bar fly. If he didn't have a pocket full of money he would
be ignored.

The GOP leadership continues to carry the stink of Trump. They fear his
tweets. Many of them called Trump an idiot who should never be president.
But when he was nominated they all changed. One said after the bus video
told of how Trump treats women, said he would never support Trump, than a
few months later turned around. It's the same for many of the GOP in congress.
What does Trump say or  do that takes people's souls. Could it be money,
or a nasty threat of ruining them? We can only guess.

People have a bad habit of following rich people around. They seem to
think some might rub off on them. Well so will the stink of a skunk if
you get to close. Some of the rich do care about humanity, but many
only care about how much money they can cheat or con people out of.

Will Trump defy the courts? If he does, and is not taken down for doing
so, we are no longer a democracy. Our federal government would be
much the same as the Russian federation with president Putin running
the government alone. Trump believes as most strong man leaders do,
a authoritarian form of government is the best, and could try   to stay
president permanently. With his control of the justice department it would
be hard to  oppose him. It might require the military to take Trump from
power. Hopefully it will never come to this. So we must get out and vote.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 08, 2019, 01:02:25 pm
It appears a British diplomat called Trump a few unflattering names. I
don't think he said anything but the truth about the president, but of
course Trump didn't like it. So it's stirred up a few diplomatic problems.

Trump's head of the Labor department helped get a billionaire a reduced
sentence even after it was shown he sexually abused children. Just more
proof how little Trump thinks of the law. He will hire anyone he likes
no matter what their morals are.

This country often allows the super rich to get away with crimes anyone
else would spend much of their life in prison for. They have a virtually
unlimited amount of money to  drag out court cases till prosecutors are
ready to  make a deal. This is how Trump has stayed out of jail in the
past.

It's time the super rich are treated the same as the average person on
the street. Wither it's the law or a civil case. They should not be able to
use their own money for defense, or to go after others. The system should
provide good legal help for all. As is people of means, and power, have an
unfair advantage over the poor, and the weak.

But as long as congress is usually filled with lawyers, it's not likely anything
will be done that might hurt the profits of lawyers. I have always felt lawyers
should not be allowed to run for any office that helps create laws, because of
their conflict of interest. Just closing their law practice means nothing. They
will always look after the business of law, and the money it makes for them.
Yes many lawyers are  good people, but sometimes some must suffer for the
good of all. 

I never could understand why people worry so much about wither a president
is to the left, right or center. People should worry about a president being
honest, supporting the law and the constitution. They should have a history
of being for all the people, not just those of one party. Yes presidents are
human, and are going to make mistakes, but they should want to support
the will of the people, not a party or any special interest group.

It's the congress who decide about laws that are left, right or center. Not
the president. He can only sign or veto bills. Even if he makes executive
decision,  congress can over ride them. People should put those in
congress according to how they believe, not just the president. In 2018
many people voted to give control of the house to democrats, but in
not giving them control of the senate, little can be done. The leader of
the senate cares nothing for the people, only for himself and the
wishes of the tea party.

Trump fails in that he isn't honest, and only cares about his voters,
in hope of being reelected. It's okay to be for the  right, but not so
far you go against the laws and constitution of the country. Not to
support division, or people who use violence. Trump wants to win
reelection so bad he breaks his oath of office, and covers up all of
his wrong doings and mistakes. And worst of all he lies constantly.
It's his fear of the truth that makes him a danger to himself
and the country.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 10, 2019, 12:38:15 pm
President Trump claims he has a thick skin when asked by reporters. Well
in my opinion someone with a thick skin wouldn't worry about what people
thought. They would just carry on with their job, and if pressed might say
they were sorry people felt that way, but I am doing the best I can.  Instead
Trump just tries to blame the person who bad mouths him, and if pressed
will blame others for his problems. Because Trump wants people to think he
is a genius who never makes a mistake. He even  blamed the weather when
asked about his speech which included airports were attack during the
revolutionary war. If you listen to that part of his speech, there was no
hesitation, he  said it like he believed it to be true.

Did Trump take part  in the underage sex acts with the accused billionaire
in the 1990's? Seems Trump is wanting to hide his close relationship with
the accused. Reports are Trump spent a lot of time with him during
those years.  Apparently president Clinton  knew him as well, but
said the relations hip was mostly trying to get money for the Clinton
foundation. It would be good to know who all were involved in the crime.
It would likely drag a bunch of the rich delete into court, and make a lot of
lawyers very rich.

Government reports seem to show some of the young Latino  children who
are held along the boarder with Mexico have been sexually assaulted by border
agents of the U S. We know this happens in Mexico, but it should never
happen here. There is no excuse for this, no matter the stress. Also some
reports of border agents punishing children for complaining about how they
are being treated. There is no excuse for this either. If guards feel they can
punish kids, or even adults, they should be removed or fired.

To hear Trump they are being treated like kids at summer camp, and it's the
fault of the democrats for any overcrowding or shortages. He said this after those
in his administration said they had plenty of resources. Seems Trump can't keep
anything straight or honest. He tells so many lies it's no wonder he gets mixed
up at times.

The GOP senators are complaining that Trump isn't getting rid of regulations
fast enough. Apparently pressured by their big business donors who gave
them millions for reelection. Expecting relief from profit harming regulations.
This one of the main reason the GOP is putting conservative judges in courts.
To reduce controls on corrupt money grubbing people.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 11, 2019, 12:54:39 pm
Trump claimed he would hire the best people. Unfortunately Trump
only see's dollar signs, loyalty, and personal looks when he picks
people.  Not their ability, or desire to do anything but get richer
than they already are. No matter what it costs the tax payer.

Where is the GOP who stood for law and order? They stand quietly
by while Trump breaks law after law, and treats the  constitution
like a dirty rag. When will people start punishing them for their
dirty deeds? If they don't we could loose our democracy. I know
it's not perfect, but it's better than what most other countries
have. People can become rich beyond their wildest dreams, but
at the cost of others. This is why we need regulations to limit
the  destructive power of Greed, and it's lasting effect on our
environment.

It appears Trump wants ICE to go after 2000 immigrants who have
no legal status here. At that rate it would take 16 years to remove
11 million if they removed 2000 a day. So it easy to see this action
by Trump is nothing more than politics. It would be impossible to
remove them even that quick. Even if they stood in line to go.
 This business of Trump removing illegal immigrants from this
country is nothing but a fantasy he is feeding his supporters.

We should be working to help make the countries these people
come from more desirable. If the Latin American countries had
good jobs, and law enforcement, these people would never leave
in the first place. Also many of the illegal aliens would go back
if they felt there would be a good life for their children. People in
general don't want to leave home in the first place. But if there isn't
any future or threat of starvation and death, they will  risk everything
trying to  find a better life for their children.

Trump has no idea what it's like to live as these people have to. He
has no understanding of doing without food or health care. Every
day of his life he only had to holler, and hired servants would be
there to follow his every wish. So he see's others the same way.
He thinks everyone can be de-swayed by the almighty dollar. You
can see this in how he talks to the North Korean leader, or even
Iran. It's because he doesn't understand anything else.

Trump has spent enough money trying to  stop immigration to
make a real difference in Latin American countries, but no, Trump
wants a symbol like a wall that he can point to, feeling it would get
him reelected in 2020. Already other countries like China, and Russia
are working to gain influence in these poor countries. This is the way
communism is sold around the world. Promising of equality for all,
but instead it's just a curtain of lies. China, and Russia are only
interested in the natural resources they can steal  while offering
to help.

The GOP is doing all they can to convince people that immigration
is a bad thing. They fear diversity, because it will weaken their ability
to hold on to power. Latino's and other people of color want equality
more than the money that the GOP offers to gain support. If the
GOP fails to change, they will be lost to history by 2040. Most of
the old white men and women will be gone by then. Along with
their votes.

The younger generation is smarter, and likely can see the cliff the
GOP is rushing toward. I am sure the GOP leadership will do all
they can to build support  from young white people, but it's a loosing
battle. Women unlike their parents won't stand for the good ole boy
way of doing things any more.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on July 11, 2019, 09:34:42 pm
...
We should be working to help make the countries these people
come from more desirable. If the Latin American countries had
good jobs, and law enforcement, these people would never leave
in the first place. Also many of the illegal aliens would go back
if they felt there would be a good life for their children. People in
general don't want to leave home in the first place. But if there isn't
any future or threat of starvation and death, they will  risk everything
trying to  find a better life for their children.

...


I have always thought this.  If we make other countries strong enough to support themselves, and friendly to us because they WANT to be friends with us, then we all benefit. Someday I fear America will be judged by other nations in a war or other such event, and we may be judged by our actions towards other nations in the present time.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 12, 2019, 12:49:05 pm
It's obvious Trump is running scared from his old friend in Florida. He doesn't
want anyone to think he was involved in any way with attacks on underage
girls. As usual he claimed his Secretary of Labor asked to resign, but I am
sure Trump had him removed, because of Trumps fear that the longer the
story about his Secretary of Labor went on, it could make him look bad, or
perhaps bring things to light Trump wants to hide.

This whole thing is more proof of Trumps poor management. No competent
leader would put a man in a job with a background this Secretary had. It
also shows the same for the leader of the senate, because his record was
known when he was accepted for the job.

Trump cries; "The democrats always want to point out his mistakes." Well if
he would do a proper job, instead of putting his money grubbing friends in
jobs where they have no business being, the criticism would be much less.

Now he has almost a  dozen of his friends working as acting heads of
government agencies. People who should be vetted by the senate first,
not just put there, because Trump thinks they are good people. So far
Trump has a poor record of picking good people. In fact most are bad
people with a lot of money, or because they bragged on him.

This morning during Trumps press conference he is claiming the
the reduction of immigrants is due to him, and Mexico, but it's
likely because this is the hottest time of year for the path
many immigrants have to  take, and are probably waiting
for cooler weather.

As always, when Trump stands in front of a camera he starts bragging
on how good a job he is doing with lie after lie. As I have said before
when he repeats himself, again and again you can depend on
it being a lie. 

When will Trump work to lower drug prices? When will he start on infrastructure,
 or protecting social security, medicare,  medicaid, and health care? He
promised to do these things, but hasn't. He wants to blame the democrats
instead of admitting his tax cut for the rich and spending for the military
is making it impossible to work on needed projects like infrastructure.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 13, 2019, 12:09:21 pm
The Vice President  stood and lied about how the people held in detention
centers. Claiming they are being treated well, when he knows they are not.
No Christian, as the VP claims to be could see what Trump is doing to these
immigrants and lie about it. Instead he should resign, rather than being a
party to it. But no, he like all of those who are  tied to  Trump, just lie and
lie, to please Trump, and his supporters. I imagine the VP is doing
this so Trump will keep him as VP in the 2020 election.

Trump continues to lie, hide, and cover, this is why he is working to
 keep people from talking to  congress. He knows his supporters don't
pay much attention to the news, but seeing people in congressional
hearings is more believable than any  news program, and Trump
knows it.

The has been a lot of talk on the liberal news about the rich getting
sweet deals from prosecutors, and lawyers. It seems there is a good
ole boy club of  rich lawyers who offer their services to people who
can pay huge sums to get away with crimes. Who can say how big
 this club is, but it like  all things with the rich, It's money, and
more of it.

This is another reason we need to get money out of the legal
system in general. Because it gives people of means an unfair
advantage over the rest of us. As long as lawyers can charge
any amount they want, there is no justice for anyone, but the
rich. The best cure is to set the fees lawyers can charge. Set
the hourly pay for services. Some get thousands for little or
no work at all.  I think the first thing we should do is vote
lawyers out of our law making bodies.

Yes this sounds like I hate lawyers, but it's not that, because
there are many good honest people in law. People who want
to protect the weak and innocent from the rich predators
among us. The bad people depend on citizens not voting and
not taking the time to understand or find out what is actually
going on. So people who have a conflict of interest
should be kept from making laws for the good of us all.

Unfortunately most of these bad, and greedy lawyers are
members of the republican party. This is why you see so
much work being done to limit voting. They know if the
average American gains control they will be the losers.

This is why new nations start out with good intentions,
then as time passes people of greed take power to protect
themselves. Unfortunately things have to  get really bad
before the crooks are thrown out. Seems it's the nature of
most people to  be reactive instead of proactive. So they don't
want to believe something is wrong till it hurts them personally.
By then it's really hard to fix, because laws will have been made
to protect the crooks, and their supporters.

If things get bad enough, the only fix is a constitutional convention.
A reset of sorts to correct problems created by people of greed.
Otherwise the people may rise up, and use violence if corrections
fail to be made. Something that rarely ends up solving anything,
because of the chaos it causes.

The best thing everyone can do is work to  put good honest
people in congress,. Both state and federal. Then get out and
vote. Otherwise nothing will change, and  may get worse.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 14, 2019, 12:56:55 pm
he GOP wouldn't have to try limiting voting if they would
support minorities instead of only doing what white good old
boys want them to do.

Now Trump and his GOP cronies are telling descendants of
immigrants who were born in this country to go home. Well
in that case Trump should go back to where his ancestors
immigrated from. Along with anyone else who feels this way.

How long will the GOP stand by and let President Trump break
the law? Perhaps as Senator Sanders says, it will take a
revolution of voters to send the grand old party a notice that
they must change or end up in the dust bin of history.

The problem is many Americans want to sit back and let the
world go by. To wait till their ox is gored to come out of the
shadows and vote. We can hope that that Trump, the worst
president in history will bring them out to get rid of him, and
if there is any justice left, send him to prison for the rest of
his life.

If Trump holds on to  power for another term of office our
democracy will shift toward an autocratic form of government.
One where law will be the will of he leader, or president, and
not the people. The far right crowd may think Trump is a great
president, because he does things they like, but they will not
like where this will end, because only the elite will have the
power. Much the same as China, and Russia. So if the government
wants their guns, they will take them, if people refuse they will go
to prison with no rights at all, and prisons will be much the same
as immigrant detention centers are today.

Like Russia it's the super rich who want power, they use human
nature to gain control over law enforcement and the military
with promises of the good life to those who do their bidding.
Then they  play people against each other to keep control, even
to have them killed if necessary.

I know most people can't believe this could happen here, but it's
already starting. Russia is in the process of turning Europe in to
states under Russian control. Putin wants to  make them dependent
so if they try to  walk away he will turn off their power and gas.
Also he is manipulating their elections to get hard liners who support
Russia in power. Something he wants to do here, and will succeed
if we don't get out and vote to stop Trump in 2020. Putin just wants
the united states to stop trying to liberate the world. So he along
with other  strong man leaders can run the world and it's economy
to suit themselves.

If you think we can stand alone, and ignore the rest of the world, think
again. People of power will never stop till they control the world or
destroy it. I know we can't police the world, but we can make it very
difficult for bad leaders to prosper by leading other countries toward
a democratic form of government. This is what Russia, China, and other
countries like them want to stop. The world is heading into a dark time
for us all, if we do nothing, but watch.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Iara Warriorfeather on July 14, 2019, 09:58:00 pm
How long will the GOP stand by and let President Trump break
the law? Perhaps as Senator Sanders says, it will take a
revolution of voters to send the grand old party a notice that
they must change or end up in the dust bin of history.

The problem is many Americans want to sit back and let the
world go by. To wait till their ox is gored to come out of the
shadows and vote. We can hope that that Trump, the worst
president in history will bring them out to get rid of him, and
if there is any justice left, send him to prison for the rest of
his life.

I hope people wake up and see the parallels between the current presidential orders and those carried out by the Third Reich...Trump definitely needs to be impeached or voted out. I really hope people get rid of him, one way or another, because this country is supposed to be "of the people, for the people and by the people," according to our Constitution. What was the point of the Declaration of Independence and establishing a democracy if people are to be this apathetic? Our founding fathers are likely rolling in their graves and I hope we can make a change for the better soon.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 15, 2019, 01:02:57 pm
Trump is playing a new gambit where he hopes to deny immigrants
asylum. He is saying they must get asylum from another country first.
Namely Mexico. This desperate move by Trump isn't  likely to go anywhere
without congressional approval. Trump seems to think all he has to do is
make an executive order to get his way on about anything. Trump will
try anything to make his base voters happy. Except the promises to fix
infrastructure , lower drug prices, or about anything else he promised.

He brags on the stock market, but most people don't gamble their hard
earned money by putting it into stocks that can become worthless overnight.
I am sure most notice he never talks about the stock market unless it's
going up.

Before he was elected he was running the growing economy down, but
afterwords he claims the growth is all due to him. Also he said he would
work to  reduce the national debt, but it has grown over a trillion dollars
since he was elected. and he has done nothing to slow it, much less
reduce it.

Past presidents have always worked to tamp down racism, but Trump
encourages it. He seems to think by creating more division it will help
him with his reelection. So the GOP jumps on board instead of trying
to heal the division that is growing with Trumps every racist tweet.

With over a year to  the next election, how far will Trump go if his
polling numbers fail to show him gaining on the democrats? He
is likely to continue trying to stop immigration by Latins, and
other people of color.

His current attacks on minority congress  women  will only
hurt any support from people of color he might have.

Trump appears to think if he can get a huge turn out from
his base he can win. Well it is true only about 60-70%
of the population vote during presidential elections, he
probably figures a 90% turnout by his base can overtake
the democrats, and others who might vote with them. It
is true republicans turned out in greater numbers during
the primaries in 2016. I am hoping the desire to rid the
country of Trump is great enough to bring out a huge
number of voters. If not I  fear Trump might win the
electoral vote, while losing the popular vote as before.

In spite of what the news media wants to say, I think
a lot of people felt H. Clinton was going to win, and
didn't take time to vote. They  never thought  Trump
could win. Also many bought the lies made by the GOP,
Conservative media, and Russia that H. Clinton was
a bad person, so they felt why not try Trump, because
he couldn't be any worse.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 17, 2019, 01:18:00 pm
It's time our country put term limits on congress members. Career
politicians are too susceptible to play for pay. They start thinking
no one else can do their job. Yes we would loose a few good people,
but a constant flow of new ideas should help much more than it
would hurt. I think a limit of 12 years of service would give any in
congress time to work ideas through to law. That would be 6 terms
for house members and 2 for the senate. Also end any and all
retirement pay for them. Also the government should pay campaign
expenses for people who have reasonable support. As is they have
to spend too much of their time raising money.

To hear the GOP and Trump, the democrats are too far to the left.
Their ideas will wreck the economy and the country. Isn't it odd
every time the GOP takes control of the white house the national
debt climbs faster, along with large deficit spending. Mostly due to
their crazy tax cut trickle down economic ideas that only make
the rich richer, and the middle class poorer.

Ever since the days of president Reagan the GOP has used this trickle
down economics idea. Claiming if you cut taxes for the rich and big
business, they will pass along the saving to the working class. Even
though they still make the same old claim, it never works, because
greed rules, and they use the saving to enrich themselves.

This is why the middle class stopped growing in the early eighties,
and the rich started getting richer. If we could  return tax rates to
what they were then, government could be operating at a surplus
instead of a deficit. Yes it would have to be adjusted to allow
for inflation, otherwise it could slow the economy and reduce
income for the government.

If we do nothing by allowing the GOP to continue their plans
to keep the rich happy. The national debt will reach a point
where the interest costs alone will out run the ability of
government to pay it. When that happens the value of the
dollar will crash, and inflation will skyrocket, and even a
wheelbarrow full of money won't buy anything. This may 
cause a world wide depression which could start a war,
which could end civilization as we know it.

Yes this is a dire prediction, but the GOP and Trump are
driving us toward a cliff. The first to  suffer will be the
poor, then the middle class, followed by the rich who have
other resources to draw on.

Trump and the GOP claim the democrats will destroy the
country with their socialist ideas. They should talk, the
entire government operates using socialism. Every agency,
be it FBI, Senate, courts, the white house. They all use tax
dollars to operate. None of it is run with private funding.

An end to socialism would stop all retirement pay, not just
social security, but all of it. National parks could be sold
or left to decay and rot. Highways, and bridges would fall into
disrepair. Public schools would close, no police, or fire protection.

This is just a taste of how our country is run using tax money.
Yes we most keep our spending in mind, but only the GOP uses
poor economic ideas to stay in power.

Countries like Sweden have many social programs to help their
people, and yes they have high taxes, but people don't need as
much money with programs available that pay much of their
needs, and they still have a strong economy.

We could do as well if greedy people would get out of the way
and let our people grow, all of them, and not just the rich.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 18, 2019, 01:08:18 pm
Trump sent 500 troops to Saudi Arabia, seemingly to help with
their war with a neighboring country. The last time troops were
there, it caused demonstrations against the United States. Hopefully
this isn't a  prelude to a war with Iran.

Trump showed his true colors at his rally last night. Full of his
lies, and a 15 minute rant about 4 congress women he wants
his supporters to hate. It's likely a dozen or two of his paid
supporters started a chant of "Send her back" in reference to
one of the congress women who immigrated here when she was
12 years old. Trump even suggested the woman married her
brother.

Trump love to  have an opponent. Since there isn't a democrat
nominee yet to oppose he apparently picked these women to fill
his need. Trump will continue to use hate and racism, because
he believes it will get him reelected. Hopefully it  doesn't lead
to racial violence. If it does, Trump would likely try to blame
the democrats. Or worse people of color.

Trump first started his campaign with  racial statements about
immigrants crossing our southern boarder. Trump has a history
of not liking people of color. Only one of many types of people
he sees as inferior.  A short list includes, Women, Blacks, or
anyone of color, yes even  Jews, gays, the poor, or anyone who  isn't
rich. He would turn his back on most of his  supporters if he
didn't know who they were. How many times has he shook
hands with people he didn't know personally? When he arrives
at a rally, he appears on stage, then leaves the same way. If
he personally greets any supporters its few if any at all.

Trump is a cowered who fears strangers, and has spent most
of his life with body guards. It's too bad his supporters don't
really know what he thinks of them. All they have to do is listen
to how he talks about the democrat's, and that is what he thinks
of most Americans, including his supporters privately.

I am sure his supporters would never believe it, but I am afraid
one day they will have reason to hate the name Trump.

The far right fears diversity in our country. People who won't follow
their racists way of thinking. So they are doing everything they can to
slow immigration. People who think this way aren't new, they have
been around since the founding of the country. They are hiding in
waiting for a chance to come out and oppose any new group of
immigrants. They use skin color, religion or most anything else as an
excuse to  deny them into our country. It has happened several times
in the past. These people fear change, even if it's good for them.

Change will come, even with the far right opposing it. Hopefully without
major violence. Only time will tell.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 19, 2019, 01:01:54 pm
Trump is trying to say the people at the rally decided to chant, but
he encouraged it with his tweets over the past several days. His
supporters didn't dream it up on their own, and he knows it.

Trump said he tried to  stop the chant, but continued to  bad mouth
Omar after waiting for the chant to die down. Trump is likely planning
to say "Love it or leave it." as a major part of his campaign. A
patriotic chant from the days of the VietNam war.

Trump claims he doesn't want war with Iran, so why did he hired
the same people who talked president Bush into starting a war
with Iraq. A war Trump used to bad mouth the younger Bush
during his campaign.

I think Trump feels he can use patriotism to get a large
percentage of his base out to vote. Depending on how he
uses it, it could back fire on him. I don't think most people
associate racism with patriotism. So the more he bad mouths
groups of people it could move people away from him.
Perhaps not to vote for democrats, but to stay home.

I really don't think Trump wants a hot war with Iran, but if
he continues letting the war hawks he hired mislead him
we could be in one soon. Trump needs to understand Iran is
not the same as North Korea. They could care less about
being seen shaking his hand. Obama gave Iran a path to
help the  middle east be a better place. Yes they are doing
things that are bad now, but  the people are pushing for
moderation over the extremism of their religious leader.
Trumps sanctions are only giving the extremists more power.

The democrats have another debate scheduled on CNN next
week. It will be interesting to see how the candidates do during
this  second debate. Biden is still holding a strong lead, but
most of his support is center with the black  vote. He must
gain a broader support if he is going to  win against Trump.
Otherwise a better candidate is needed. It's still early, the first
primary is still almost 6 months away.

Next week Mueller will testify in a house hearing about his
report on Trump and his actions shown in his  report. I am
sure the GOP members will try to make a joke of it. So the
democrats must work together to help Mueller tell the renal 
story of Trumps ill eagle activity, and not the misleading
report of Trumps attorney general claiming Trumps
innocence.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 20, 2019, 01:05:20 pm
It seems Trumps circle of friends include some pedophiles.
Now this isn't proof that Trump is guilty of such activities,
but it's very likely he was aware of their sexual preferences.
I have been around long enough to know that generally
friends talk about sexual preferences. Not always of course.
It really doesn't surprise me that the super rich feel they
can get by with most anything they want, and the video
where Trump talked about how he treated women shows
he is much the same way.

I really don't care what Trump does in private as long as
it's with consent of his friends, and legal. But these
evangelical preachers ought to be ashamed of supporting
a man like Trump. If they are worried about the unborn
and Gays, the Vice president would fill that bill just as
easy as Trump, and would make a better president.

I am sure most of us know the GOP works to protect
businesses, and the people who own and or run them.
Their excuse for this is they wish to protect jobs and
 the economy. Also to stand up for capitalism
and the free market which is the cornerstone of
business in our country.

Now as an retired businessman, I fully understand
that jobs and the economy does depend on business,
but the general public has to be protected from
people who use business to steal, and take advantage
 of people with sales and those who work for
them. Also to prevent damage to our environment
by those in the pursuit of profit.

The problem is the GOP not having the support
of the majority of voters, have a habit of
misleading the public to gain votes. prior
to television the cost of running for political
office wasn't a great expense, but as
time has passed the cost has grown to the
point that a politician has to spend a great
deal of time raising money to make a
successful run for office.

This has led to reaching out to the rich
who can give a great deal of money. The
problem is when rich people give a lot
of money, they expect those who they
support to give something back. Usually
fewer regulations that affect businesses
and their bottom line.

Over time this hurts the public, and
our environment. Supporters also
want lower taxes which lead to 
deficit spending for the government.
So the GOP claims they must
cut social programs to cover the
tax cuts for the rich. If you ask a
GOP member of congress he/she
will try to blame the other party
instead of telling
the real truth.

It's sad,  but a lot of people fall for
 the misleading stories that the GOP
feed their voters. Partly due to
people believing people who have
money must be smart, but in many 
cases, unfortunately they are just
dishonest.

This is how Trump is, people look at a
man with a ton of money and think he
must be a great business man. Also because
they saw him play one on TV. Trumps
success isn't due to being smart, but due
to  having a very rich father. Otherwise
he would be lucky to even have one business,
and deep in debt.

The GOP works for the drug industry, getting
millions in support for reelection. Because the
drug industry doesn't want any price
regulations. They had congress create  laws
limiting competition to benefit them. So they
can set prices as high as they wish. During
the 1970's Generic drugs hit the market.
This helped keep  prices down, but eventually
they realized they could raise prices on generics
 too. Even in some cases they became higher
than name brand drugs. So the drug
industry just raised the price of name
 brand drugs higher to hide it.

The founders of many of the drug companies
wanted to help people have a healthy life and
didn't worry about getting rich, but over the
years people who could care less about peoples
health have taken the companies over, and now
it's just profit and nothing else.

Trump is working to deregulate at any cost.
Even to decimate agencies like the FDA. An
agency that helps insure save foods for us all.

Also to destroy the environmental agency,
so the government can't protect the quality
of our air and water. All in the name of profit.

This is just two cases, yet people in the
GOP refuse to believe Trump is hurting
anyone. By the time they start suffering
the GOP will try to pass the blame to the
democrats. I just hope unless the GOP
wakes up, they cease to exist as a
power in this cntry.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 21, 2019, 01:02:58 pm
Is Trump defying his aids and the GOP with his racist remarks
about 4 women congress members? It appears so as Trump continues
to bad mouth them, and claims they are the face of the democrats.
Even with his racist remarks support in the GOP polls went up a bit. So
we can likely expect more of it from Trump.

It's more proof the GOP is no longer the party of Reagan or Lincoln.
It has become a cult of Trump. His supporters want him, even
though he lies, and breaks laws, they like how he stands up
 against government norms.  Trump talks the same way  many
people think about government. Down deep many people
don't like favors given to minorities, the poor, immigrants or
homosexuals. They apparently look to Trump, thinking only
he, will work to stop all things they don't like about the
government.

People may not want to admit it, but the movement  in
Germany, Hitler started in the 1930's was based on the
very same thing. He used racism, and hatred of minorities
claiming they were taking jobs, and  unfit of living in the
country, and yes, only the white arian race who is supreme,
should. just as Trump claims only white people love the country,
and more people of color is destructive to our country.


In both cases it's based on fear of change. Several
times white America has stood against immigration.
Mainly the Irish, Italians, and the Jews. The black race 
coming here as slaves apparently didn't count as
immigrants,  yet Trump supporters want them to
go home to Africa. The problem is most blacks have
a longer American heritage than most white
people do.

Trump may want to blame the countries problems on
immigrants,  but we need them. It's the diversity they
create that makes our country great, Not Trumps racist
claimes.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 22, 2019, 12:49:58 pm
This coming wens day Mueller will testify at a house
hearing. To explain his report about president Trump
and his activities in is report. Trumps attorney general
claimed it showed no wrong  doing by Trump, but it
showed just the  opposite. The report showed many cases
where Trump is guilty of breaking the law, but as president
Trump can't be charged. So Mueller expects congress to
deal  with it.

The GOP and Trump will continue to call the democrats a
bunch of socialists who will destroy the country with
communist ideas. They hope this will scare the public
into voting for the GOP. You can see this in how they are
talking about the 4 women congress members. Claiming
they want to  turn the US into a socialist country. Well we
already are a socialist country in that tax payers support
public programs. The VA is one of the biggest.

Socialism we mainly need to worry about  is government
ownership of common businesses that works against free
enterprise. not  social programs that help the poor and
disadvantaged. Also to have regulations to prevent
improper business practices.

The Trump administration is calling Iran's claim of catching
17 CIA agents a lie. Well since the Trump administration lies
all the time, who can we believe? Hopefully it's a scam. Generally
the US government never admits anything about spy's. So they
would be on their own. Especially Iranians working for the CIA.

The news media is trying to predict democrat leaders for the
nomination to run for president. I kind of wish they wouldn't
try to make predictions. I think the do more  harm than good
by confusing the public. During the last debate, they asked
the candidates if they supported health care for immigrants.
This just helped the GOP, by giving them a talking point,
because GOP  supporters and others feel this is unfair to US
citizens who must pay for  health care. They forget allowing
the sick to  go untreated, can spread diseases. Or just don't
care.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 23, 2019, 01:19:19 pm
Trump is apparently freaking out as Mueller is about to
testify before congress. Even tweeting that Mueller should
not be allowed to appear at the hearing. Just what is
Trump so afraid of. He has said time and time again Mueller
showed him to be innocent. So why fear his testimony? Of
course if Trump has been telling lies, and told his Attorney
General to lie, and others he can fire if they aren't totally
loyal to lie. He might have something to worry about.

I think Trump is afraid when the public see's someone other
than the press testifying wrong doings by him, they might
start believing it. He has worked hard to create the belief
among his supporters that all news that isn't good for him is
fake. Unfortunately many of them take Trumps word on this.

When Trump ran for president, he never expected to win. He was
only wanting to spread his name, here and abroad. Why? Because
he needs money. He claims to be a multi billionaire, but there is
evidence he isn't nearly as rich as he claims, and owes hundreds of millions in loans to foreign banks. As president he is making tens of millions from other countries, and from rich people who wish
to cozy up to him. He will likely make a quarter of a billion dollars
 during his 4 years in office, and perhaps more. Another 4 years
could net him even more than that. So it's no wonder he is working
so hard to win. He cares little for the country, other than how much
money he can gain from the job.

When leaders like Trump use corruption to gain money or power, it
causes them to fight to retain power, because good honest people
know corruption when they see it, and will work to unseat any bad
leader, and even to imprison the guilty. In other countries
corrupt leaders will often try to use their military to keep power.
I hope Trump doesn't try to do the same. I hope those in the
military would oppose any such action by Trump.

Trump needs voters from the far right, so he will promise them
all they want. So they apparently see him as their savior, and
will hang onto him as long as they can. They should remember
getting a wish, is not as good as it appears to be, The future
they might win, could bite them in the end. History has shown,
tyranny, no matter who spreads it often lose. Just as they
did during our civil war, and the french revolution.

How far will Iran be allowed to defy the world? Will Britain
send more naval ships to the middle east to protect their
shipping? Will Trump do the same? Then will Iran attack
warships, or not? Seems we are heading toward the brink
of war. If Iran continue to block oil shipments, world
economies will slow. Already a shipload of corn in
Brazil can't leave port due to a lack of fuel.

How many ships will be stuck in port, before the world
economy is affected, and even cause food shortages. I
think Iran is betting holding the world hostage, will
be a win for them. If Trump had not pulled out of the
agreement Obama made along with several other world
 countries with Iran, we would not be facing this problem.

Trump has made many poor decisions, because of his hate
for president Obama. He apparently feels he must do away
with everything Obama did during his presidency. No matter
who or what it hurts.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 24, 2019, 11:59:09 am
During the Mueller hearing, it's obvious that the GOP members
were trying to discredit Mueller, and detract from what the
hearing is about. "The special report." Some of the GOP
members are downright rude to Mueller to look helpful to
their boss  Trump. and his supporters.

The report shows multiple actions of coverup and working with
the Russians by president Trump. Yet the GOP continued to speak
of investigations that Mueller wasn't involved with. One member from Florida just ran off at the mouth instead of asking questions. Some
GOP members ask why not all those who lied  weren't indicted.
Knowing some traded information to be excused.

Admittedly some of the democrats were trying to embellish the
report to some degree, but not misrepresenting it. One GOP
member asked if Trump could be charged after leaving office, and
Mueller said "Yes". I don't think that member expected that
response. I am sure Trump squirmed when he heard that.
Because it shows Mueller considers Trump guilty, and should be
indicted for criminal actions.

I am sure Fox News and other conservative outlets will try to
paint the hearing as an unsuccessful attack on Trump, and how
the GOP members did their best to help Trump by discrediting
Mueller and his team.

I imagine Trump will be tweeting overtime about this hearing and
how terrible it was for him and the country. Trump has and will
continue to lie for his own benefit. His lies total well over
10,000 since taking office.

Trump and his administration lie about how people and their
children are treated at our southern boarder. Even US citizens
have been held in detention centers for weeks, because they
have Spanish names, with darker skin color. Trump seems to
think mistreatment of Latins will help his reelection. Though
it may not. Most people despise his treatment of small children
at our boarder. Putting them in cages with only a concrete floor
to sleep on. With little good food or sanitation.

I hope the American public is able to see how the report
shows Trump to be guilty of crimes against our government and
our democratic system for his own benefit. Even though the
GOP did their best to convince them otherwise.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 25, 2019, 01:05:18 pm
It's a hoax claims president Trump. Well I certainly didn't expect
him to admit to his crimes. So Trump clings to the GOP, who claims
the report is tainted, with people who hate him, and even the
GOP. Of course the GOP want us to forget how much they bad mouthed
Trump during the primaries of 2016. To hear them Trump was a fool
who had no idea how to run the country, and that is just a few of
the remarks they made about him. Even Russia's Putin called Trump
a clown until he was nominated.

The GOP leader of the Senate killed a bill that would help protect
the country against attacks on our election process by foreign
countries. GOP members claimed the bill would put federal controls
on states, and their elections. Controls that would keep the GOP
from limiting votes, and attacks on minorities rights to vote. With
only about 30% of the voting public in their party, the GOP fears
minority voting  that usually goes for the democrats.

Now with a party that is even farther to the right, they will
need every independent vote they can get. Even if they have
to cheat to keep others from voting. A few years ago the GOP
hired security officers to stand outside a voting center, to
intimidate minorities, to keep them from voting. The supreme
court at the time punished the GOP for this. So the GOP worked
to get the supreme court to soften the voting rights act. They
got the court to also allow corporations to donate millions in dark
money to benefit political parties. This gives the GOP an advantage
as many of their supporters are very rich.
 
If the Democrats don't start fighting back they will find it hard to
oppose the GOP for anything. It's time they stop being nice, and
jump on the GOP for their dirty tricks. The problem is many in the
GOP are willing to work hard for what they believe. Where many
Democrats just sit back and let the  politicians have their way.
The GOP has depended for many years on the silent majority not
getting out and voting. Then when President Reagan won with
coat tails that carried the GOP to victory in congress for the first
time in years, the GOP started  playing hardball, and  sucking up
to  the rich to help them with tax  cuts and fewer regulations.

This began the slow decline of the Middle class. Also services by
the government that used to be free changed by charging
fees for federal parks and many other things the public used.   
I have heard reports the Trump administrations wants to ad charges
for even more government services. Government weather reports for
one. This is how business men like Trump and the GOP think. Make
people pay for everything. Unless they are a GOP member in government.
Then the government pays them. The Democrats are far from being
perfect, but they do little to harm our country, in the persuit of money.

If Trump wins in 2020 he and his friends in the GOP will continue to
reduce government services, no matter who it hurts.  Trump  has been
giving billions to commercial  farming so his  tariffs won't hurt so much.
What isn't being told is some of them are owned by foreigners who gain
millions with Trumps subsidies. We should be helping American farmers
not foreign ones.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 26, 2019, 12:26:19 pm
Joe Biden is still well ahead of other candidates for president in the
democratic party. People of color appear to be giving him most of
his support over his competition.

Several candidates met with the NAACP, even the one GOP candidate
running against Trump. He was well received along with the democratic
candidates.

Even though voting security is in desperate need of protection, the
GOP leader of the senate refused to authorize monies to help with
cyber security across the nation. He used the excuse that it was only
the democrats wanting to prevent others from helping the GOP win.
 Like Russia, China, or the computer geek down the street.

I am sure most in the GOP don't want to think other countries
are affecting voting, but the GOP leaders seem to think all things
are fair, as long as it helps them win. Well they should remember
this kind of attack can work both ways. Reports are that Iran is
working to affect our 2020 election as well as Russia, perhaps
other countries too. If we are lucky, maybe they will all
cancel each other out. But we can't depend on that.

All things tied to voting should not be accessible online, but
software companies promise security and keep their programs
tied to them, so they can make millions on updates. Like other
big businesses they care more about their bottom line than
our country. It wouldn't be so bad if they truly  worked to
secure the systems they promise to protect.

Most of the problem is Trump not pushing for voter security, other
than keeping minorities from voting. If he wants people to believe
he was elected by the people, and not through involvement by
others. Then he should support cyber security.

The news media wasn't giving Mueller high marks since his hesitant
way of speaking made him look uncertain of the facts. Perhaps not,
but the public watching the hearings should have learned that
Trump, and the GOP has been misleading them. It showed Trump
was found trying to  cover up his attempts to stop legitimate
investigations by the FBI, and the special counsel.

The speaker of the house still doesn't feel there is enough support
for the impeachment of Trump, and wants to continue investigations
with the help of the courts. Many in the  party want to move
forward,  but the speaker feels the best way to rid the country
of Trump is with the 2020 election. I would like to believe even
though the GOP controlled senate would not remove Trump,
by supporting Trump who is apparently guilty of crimes, could
cost them their reelection to the senate.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 27, 2019, 12:39:44 pm
Trumps supporters were told during the 2016 primaries that
he is nothing but a con artist. Even though we all  know what
a con artist is, people ignored it. So now we have a president
who is no different than the person who calls your phone
and tries to con you out of your identity and money.

As president he continues to con his supporters into thinking
only he will protect the country from those who will destroy it.
If your a conservative who is afraid people of color and gays
will take over the country. You should be more afraid of Trump
and the GOP leadership. They are wanting to  turn this countries
government into  an authoritarian system, much as it is in Russia
and China.

The reason people of power like authoritarianism is because
they don't have to ask the people for anything. They just pass laws
and regulations to benefit themselves. Then if you try to speak out
against them, they will put you in prison. If you have a lot of
support they will have you killed, and point their finger as some
one else.

Trumps attorney General is pushing to have the death penalty
restored, so the federal government can put people to death
again. Will they make sure the guilty will be killed, or will
it just be for political gain, as some small time prosecutors
do trying to get reelected.

Trump claims he is building his wall, but all that is being done
is replacing barriers that need  repair.  It will take years to
build even a small amount of new wall. Every mile will have
court fights with land owners that will take years to conclude.
If you doubt that, only now after 10 years has the building of a
small section of wall been done, and Trump had nothing to
do with it.

Trump and the GOP want people to think they are responsible
for the economy. This is a lie, because they have done little
to make jobs, or even to keep jobs in the country. Trumps
continues to make his empty promises while hiring people
in the far eat to manufacture products for him to sell.

The president is for all the people, not just those who voted for
him or her. Yet Trump thinks he only has to give lip service to
those who support him. I hope they finally realize that Trump
considers them fools at his command. 

So be a pawn, because if you continue to  support Trump and
the GOP leadership, you will loose your right to speak out, your
right to  own a gun, and any other right that the authoritarians
have reason to  fear.  You might even want to convince yourself
that you as a conservative will be safe, perhaps, but it will only
take someone who has a grudge against you and your screwed,
because due process rights will be gone. They only need to
accuse you of being against the government and your
done, on both sides.

Another bad thing about authoritarianism is it's a dog eat
dog system. Much the same as a criminal organization with
hit squads fighting for control. You will never be safe, even in
your own home.

We can thank the democrats for trying to stop the destruction
of our system of government, and the protection of our constitution.
But it will be a hard fight since Trump and the GOP control much
of the government. They must fight hard, and use tough tactics or
they, and we the people will loose.

Impeachment is a process, and should be pursued to help the
public learn the truth about Trump, and his people, who only
want to enrich themselves at the  cost of our country. They can
walk away, while the rest of us are left to suffer with whats left.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 28, 2019, 12:38:23 pm
The democrats in congress are saying they are doing impeachment
investigations. So they can gain access to grand jury data. They
do not plan to vote for impeachment unless the public shows they
want Trump removed. So far the senate could not come up with 20
republican senators to vote Trump out other wise. Even if they did
I doubt if the senate leader would stand still for it.

Trump  is claiming cities with poor and people of color, are infested
with rats, and  roaches. While his Florida resort was cited with 78
violations by the local health department, for infestations over
the past 3 years. Trump wants people to think he cares about
people, but he invited homeless people into his apartment
buildings hoping they would drive out his poor, and elderly
tenants. Because he wanted to turn them into
high priced condominiums.

Trump promised to drain the swamp in Washington DC, but he has
done nothing but make it deeper. Lobbyist practically fight their way
to see Trump. A man who will sell America for the right amount of money.
Think not? Trump has sold government lands in the west for mining,
 continental coastal waters, here and in Alaska to big oil. We will loose
most if not all pristine forests and lands if Trump stays in office.

Trump wants to run the government as if it was a business. In a
business the CEO is a dictator. He/she runs everything. This is why
Trump went bankrupt 4 times. He doesn't know how to run a
business that makes money. He keeps taking money out of the cash
box to spend it for adult toys, and women. If it wasn't for his fathers
money, and the TV show "The apprentice", he would have been
broke, and deep in  debt.

A business man  should never be the head of any government.
They don't have the right mindset for it. They want to run everything,
where a government depends on decisions made by many people.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 29, 2019, 12:56:39 pm
Trump removed his head of the intelligence agency. Why?
Because he wants loyalty more than anything else from his
nominees. Not loyalty for the country, but Trump. The
current one was guilty of telling Trump the facts, and not
nonsense to make him feel good.  So Trump nominates a man
who has no experience in intelligence, but brags on Trump
at every turn. Since the Senate is filled with GOP puppets of
Trump they will likely vote for him. Because they care more
about staying in office than they do the country.

This has been Trumps way all his life. He only likes people who
give him praise. So he has nominated those who brag on him
with promises to be loyal, instead of capable people who can do
a good job for our country.

It was unfortunate, but in 2016 more democratic senators were
up for reelection by far than those of the GOP. So it's no wonder
why they held the senate. In 2020 however it's turned around
with 20 GOP senators who are up for reelection. So there is a
good chance the democrats could take back the senate. If Trump
can be removed as well, much of the damage caused by the GOP
and Trump, could be reversed.

This is another reason why we need term limits, as is people who are
harmful to the country, but are able to con voters into  voting for them
time after time, can stay in office for many years. This is why the
 president is limited to  two terms. It's too bad  limits weren't put
on congress, and the senate as well.  It's time we kick the con
artists out, and have new ideas with new people.

I fear if Trump is reelected, he will push to be allowed to have
as many terms as he can be elected to. Because he wants to
have the same power and money as the leaders of China
and Russia.

Will people of color and others come out in record numbers
to vote in 2020?. To remove Trump and his hateful divisive
rhetoric, so he can be put in jail where he belongs. Only
time will tell, but perhaps if Trump continues to run down
people of color, women, the LGBT and others, he will help
us do the job. Perhaps he will shove his foot so far into
his mouth, his supporters won't be able to pull it out.

I think Trump hopes the people held in disgusting pens
at the border will riot. So he can just pack them all up
and remove them from the country. I know his supporters
think Trump is doing a good thing by removing undocumented
aliens from our country, but many jobs they do will go wanting,
and many businesses will suffer without them and the money
they spend.

If Trump and the GOP wanted to slow or stop  illegal immigration,
they only need to penalize, and fine businesses for hiring them. The
dirty secret is the GOP doesn't want to, because many businesses
depend on them for jobs many Americans refuse to do. Also they
will work for low pay with few if any benefits.

This is why Trump likes to hire foreign workers and immigrants to
work in his resorts. When this was found out, Trump fired them
even after their years of good work. Just shows Trump only hires
Americans when he has to.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 30, 2019, 09:53:10 am
Want to know where Democratic candidates stand on certain issues, folks? Well, here ya go:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/politics/2020-democratic-candidates-issue-guide/#/
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 30, 2019, 01:20:22 pm
Trump continues to play the racist game. I think he is following the
example of David Duke who tried to convince voters  his political
opponent was against  not only him, but anyone who felt minorities
had a free lunch.

His opponent defeated David Duke by pointing out what kind of man
Duke was, instead of just calling him a racist. I think this would be
the best way to defeat Trump. Point out his history, and the failures
of his presidency. Otherwise Trump will try to say the democrats are
against him and his supporters as Duke did.

Trump has failed at most everything he promised. Jobs are continuing to
leave the country. Factories are closing. Trump brags about the stock
market which most Americans don't have the money to play in. Yes
the economy is doing well for people who have money, but poor whites,
and minorities, it's not doing all that well.

Sure most Americans have jobs, but many are at a wage that won't
pay all their necessary expenses. Even with multiple jobs. Trump will
try to blame the Democrats, but they should point out Trump and the GOP
have no plans to compromise. Trump agrees to a deal, then turns
around, and breaks it. Because conservative media claims Trump
isn't standing up to the democrats enough.

The public must understand that Trump is selling out the country to
enrich his self and his rich friends. If he is reelected, this will continue
and our country will  suffer for it. Along with our children.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 31, 2019, 12:44:14 pm
The second debate for the democrats running
for the office of president was on last night.
The first of two 10 person debates. It was
largely about policy to make sure the people
of this country have good health care without
driving them into bankruptcy. Universal health
care has been a long battle to protect the big
insurance corporations, and drug industry, by
the GOP.

It is true we need to avoid socialist plans, but
many businesses, when they grow large put
profit above public need.

When health insurance was first created, it was by a
group of people who wanted to help people with health
costs they couldn't afford. Not to make themselves rich.
Of  course when rich men saw that  there was money
to be made providing health coverage, they started
companies that in the beginning provided plans
people could afford. Once established prices were
increased. Now their profits are in the billions, with
no concern for the public. 

The GOP leader of the senate Mitch O'Connell  is
working with Trump to block legislation coming
from the democrat controlled house. Not just
partisan legislation, but legislation to protect
our system of government. Because Trump wants
foreign governments to be allowed to help him
and the GOP to  win in 2020. Many of the bills
coming from the house the GOP oppose, is to
raise the minimum wage, lower drug costs,
and other things to help with public needs.

The GOP and Trump are wanting to convince
the public that democrats are socialist who will
wreck the economy. Odd thing though, every
time the GOP gains control the we have large
deficit, and when the democrats take it we don't.

We should remember that when Obama won the
presidency our economy was in bad shape, following
a republican president. Then grew every years Obama
was in office. He turned a strong economy over to
Trump. A man who has done little to  do anything, but
fill the pockets of himself and the richest Americans.

Trump ran claiming he would put the best people
in his cabinet, but so far those in he has hired
are corrupt people out to enrich them selves. Not
to make America great as Trump wants to claim.

I really believe most republicans care about the
environment, and costs of living. They are just
caught up in the Cult of Trump. Hopefully they will
come to realize what Trump is, a con artist who only
cares about him self. Any good he does for the
country will only be by accident.

Trump loves Saudi Arabia, because they spend huge
sums of money with him and his family. This is
why he blocks any legislation that goes against
his Saudi friends.

The other day Trump had a signing ceremony in
the rose garden of the White House, for a bill
that would guarantee funding for the first
respondents on 911 attack on the twin towers
in New York. During his monotone speech he
made believe he cared about them, and the
problems they had. Though he did nothing to
get the aid passed through congress. He even
lied saying he was there after the attack in
support, but no one applauded as the first
respondents there knew it was a lie. Just more
lies Trump hopes will get him more votes.

The Trump administration is now claiming they
want to work with Canada so people can order
drugs from there, to lower their costs for
drugs. We shouldn't be surprised that this
will take 2 or 3 years to implement. That is
if Trump is reelected. I am sure if Trump was
to win this plan would disappear, or declared
unworkable.

We should remember the GOP candidates running
for office in 2018, promised they were for
coverage of preexisting health problems, but
they never mentioned any price controls while
they were trying to get rid of Obama care
which give coverage for preexisting conditions
at no extra cost. I can guarantee any plan
for preexisting conditions set by private
insurance would be thousands per month. 

Trump still claims China is suffering a lot because
of his tariffs, but reports are showing China's economy
though down a bit is still better than ours by a factor of
two. Over 6 percent while ours is a bit over 3 percent for
the last quarter.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on July 31, 2019, 03:35:40 pm
Welcome to the 2019 Furtopian Debate, folks. Our first speaker tonight is a well known and long standing member of Furtopia, Mr. Kobuk D. Husky. Tonight, he will give his views to our audience as well as fursons everywhere about various political issues in this country that are of concern to fursons of every species, color, size, etc.

Mr. Kobuk, tonight's topics are the following: Health Care, Gun Control, Immigration, and Climate Crisis. You'll have 5 minutes per topic to express your views and what you propose to do on those issues if elected President. You may begin whenever you're ready.


A sharp dressed husky behind the podium looks out at the audience before him, then clears his throat to begin speaking.
 
Health Care:
"For too long, people have watched as health care costs in America have skyrocketed. They are constantly fed up with higher prescription prices, higher copays, higher, out of pocket expenses, and so much more. There is a solution to the health care crisis in America and it starts at the most basic lowest level. When I look around at all the people here and everywhere else, my question to you is "What are YOU doing to lower costs and improve health care?".
If people want better health care, it's not necessarily the pills, doctors, surgeries, etc. that will make them better. Yes, these things will help. But it ultimately falls to yourself to take care of your own body at the most basic level if you want to stay healthy. It's your body and your health. Therefore, it's YOUR responsibility to take care of it. Not somebody else. Now granted, there are people with various disabilities, diseases, and other severe conditions who cannot properly take care of themselves for whatever reason. This I understand. But for the rest of the populace who is "out and about", the more you take care of yourself by eating healthier, getting regular exercise, proper amounts of sleep, etc., the healthier and better you'll be. And the more you take care of yourself, the less you'll have to rely of doctors, pills, etc. to take care of you. Yes, you'll still need to go to regular yearly routine eye exams, dental checkups, and so forth. But the more YOU take care of yourself, the less you'll have to rely on doctors, prescriptions, etc. which means more costs. All those doctor visits and prescriptions add up over time. Think of the money you could save if you ate healthier, exercised reguarly more, etc. and didn't have to go to a doctor all the time. Think of it this way. Who's going to be in better health or who's going to have more expenses: The person who brushes and flosses his teeth 2x a day and takes proper care of his mouth? Or the person who rarely brushes, doesn't floss, and hardly sees a dentist?
In conclusion, if we want better health care in America, then we need look no further than our own selves. Don't believe me? Then go look in a mirror sometime. At the most basic level, WE need to start taking better care of our own bodies,.


GUN CONTROL
"We don't need more common sense gun laws in America. What we need is people to have more COMMON SENSE when owning and using a gun. Yes, I do support people to have and use a gun per the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution. But I want them to have and use a gun SAFELY and  RESPONSIBLY. But I will also say that I do agree with my fellow political candidates in that I would ban assault weapons, large magazines, and bump stocks. I also agree with having universal background checks and having some form of Federal license to own and use a gun. Having and using a gun shouldn't just be a right, it should also be a privledge. Owning and using a vehicle is not a right. It's a privledge. Something you have to earn. A gun should be held to a similar standard. If you want to own and use a gun, then show that you can safely and responsibly use it. Require people to have a license for a gun just like they have a license for a car. Have mandatory training classes for owning and using a gun in order to get a license. And if elected, I will set up a program to add more training facilities, more educational programs, etc. to help train people to safely and responsibly use guns.

IMMIGRATION
"What exactly is a wall going to do? How exactly is it going to keep illegal immigrants out? Hate to say it, but it won't. I'm not opposed to spending money to fix or replace broken sections of wall. But if any of my political opponents want to build a 100% completely brand new shiny wall from scratch, then they've got a political fight on their hands. Walls aren't going to completely stop illegal immigrants. They will always find some other means of getting into a country. What I would do is increase funding for more border patrol personnel, more security cameras and other measures, and increase more spending for the DEA, Coast Guard, and other selected agencies. I would also end child seperations at the border as I am totally against that. Children need to be with their parents. I would also increase funding and materials for border processing facilities, and hire more immigration judges to hear more cases.
But if we want to stop or at least slow down the flow of illegal immigrants, we need to start at the source. We need to somehow change or put pressure on the countries where illegal immigrants are coming from. You hear all the time how illegal immigrants are coming to America because conditions in their own countries are so bad. Things like corrupt government, drugs, poor housing, no jobs, etc. What we need to do is somehow put pressure on those governments to change their ways and to start helping their people. Therefore, I would try to find ways to improve relations with those countries and try to get conditions changed in those countries.


CLIMATE CRISIS
"Everything in life changes. The Earth is no exception. Whether the climate changes that the Earth is experiencing are man made or naturally occuring is unknown. So many scientific reports are conflicted on this. But one thing is for certain: These climate changes are happening. Polar ice is melting. Summers are getting hotter. Hurricanes are getting more intense. And the list goes and and on. And if we do nothing to abate these climate changes, then every species, including the human species, will surely suffer and die. We can't just sit back and watch as the world unfolds around us. This planet is the only one we've got. Shouldn't we at least take better care of it? There's nowhere else to go. It'll be at least decades or even centuries before we can travel to other planets and colonize them. The world is running out of resources. The oceans are filling with plastic. And countless animal and plant species are becoming extinct. This has to end. Here, and now. If elected, I would increase more programs for renewable energy sources, especially solar and wind. I would also increase more programs devoted to recycling and reusing various materials. Coal and soon oil are dinosaurs of a bygone age. The future is for more "greener" and renewable sources of energy. But some political opponents don't see it that way for they want to take a step back rather than going forward. They're not willing to take risks to save this planet. I am. Everything moves forward at some point. Not backward. Horse drawn buggies -> Cars. Typewriters -> Computers. Pay phone booths -> Cellphones.


Thank You Mr. Kobuk for your answers to various political issues. I'm afraid your time is now up.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 01, 2019, 12:35:18 pm
This plan by the Trump administration to allow people to
import drugs from other countries is a scam by Trump.
Just to get reelected. Once he wins, this will go away
Because Drug manufactures don't want the competitions,
and as long as the GOP is running things they will do
whatever the drug industry wants, just as they do with
big oil. It's all about money.

If you doubt it, The drug  industry is spending millions on
misleading TV ads trying  to get people to stop using
warferin, a low cost blood  thinner. with a higher priced
replacement. It's just another  scam to make more
money for a industry which made  almost 80 billion
dollars last year.

The leader of the senate is putting conservative federal
judges in as fast as he can. The GOP senate and Trump
want judges that will protect the rich and big business.

If we don't get the GOP out of power, the federal court
system will do little to protect the common man from
the powerful. Especially against big business. Once put
on the bench, federal judges are there for life. The
only way to kick them out is by impeaching them.
That takes 67 votes of the senate. Which is very
hard to do, especially with the GOP wanting to
protect conservative judges.

The two supreme court judges that Trump put on the court
are both conservative and partisan, and should be impeached.
Judges who are partisan have no business on any court.
It's not their job to make laws, but to interpret the
constitution as it relates to a law, and it's effect on society.
Partisan judgements are only to support party dogma,
and rarely anything else.

Judges being human have a hard enough time making fair
decisions without following party allegiance. If people don't
like a law change it. It's not the job of the courts to do, but
the GOP doesn't want to get their hands dirty passing unpopular
laws, so they are  wanting the courts to do it for them.

The second group of 10 democrats running for president were
putting on their stuff last night. Attacking Joe Biden for the
most part. A lot was said about health coverage for the people
of the US. I really think the best idea is to give the public the
choice between a medicare program and private insurance. The
public is largely unsure about government coverage.  I have been
on medicare for years. It works very well, better than any private
insurance I ever had. I think given the choice most people will
move to a medicare program. It will just take a few years, and
many of the rich will stay with private care, because they want
special treatment, with the money to pay for it.

I think the democrats need to talk more about jobs, They should
work to let the public know they will work to get good paying jobs
for the masses. Many people have to work two jobs trying to make
ends meet. Also they should let the people know they will work to
keep trade between our nation and foreign countries fair. It's not
possible to keep it fair for everyone all the time, but they must
work to keep it as fair as possible. Trump claims he is working
for fair trade, but how can we believe a man who has lied almost
11,000 times since taking office.

When Trump ran for president he said he would work so all would
have good health care at an affordable cost. So far all he  has done
is work to give health care back to big insurance. With costs so high
many can't afford the premiums much less the co pays that reach
into the thousands of dollars. Now he wants to take coverage away
from those who have preexisting conditions. This will cause the
deaths of uncounted thousands, because private insurance can't make
money covering the sick, and would charge tens of  thousands per
month if they did.

The reason people lie is to cover up mistakes or cheating. So we
can only wonder what Trump lies to cover up. All  we can do is
watch what he does, not what he says. The trouble is, much of
what Trump does is a cover for mistakes, or his attempts to make
money at the expense of our country. The only cure for Trumps
impropriety is to get rid of him, and hopefully put him in jail.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 02, 2019, 01:00:36 pm
Polls show the democratic debate didn't change candidate standings
much. Joe Biden is still ahead, follows by Sanders, Warren, and Harris.
The rest are about the same as well.

The debate led by CNN moderators was contentious, with some putting
some blame on Obama. This blame was really aimed at Biden, but the
media, and Trump made a big  deal about the connection to Obama.

Members of the GOP are resigning rather than running for reelection.
This is happening across the country, mainly moderates who are
tired of trying to support a president that is destroying the republican
party, for his own benefit, and is likely pushing the country toward a
recession with his economic ignorance.

China may be willing to wait till after the 2020 election to make
any  economic deals with the US. Trump claims his illegal tariffs are
hurting China big time, but there is no evidence of this. It's mostly
a tax on American consumers. We can only wonder if Trump will
ever admit he is wrong, or just push tariffs even higher.

If Trump starts a real trade war, it will  be disastrous for people
around the world. Including the US. This is why the use of tariffs
were discontinued a century ago. It could take decades before
such a war would be ended with treaties among nations.

Speaking of treaties, Trump is pulling the US out of a treaty
President Regan made with Russia in the 1980's. A treaty
to stop the building and deployment of medium range
missiles. He claims it's because Russia is in violation of
the  treaty. Well we should be trying to stop Russia's
violations with  diplomatic pressure and sanctions rather
than starting another arms race. A race that won't be
limited with  Russia. China is wanting to deploy medium
range missiles as well.

So instead of making the US safer, Trump will be sending us
back to the very dangerous days of the nuclear arms race.
The more missiles, the greater the chance of an accidental
launch that could start a nuclear war, which could be all
but impossible to stop.

North Korea is deploying nuclear capable medium range
missiles that can reach Japan, and others. Trump claims
these don't break any deals he made with North Korea.
Tell that to our troops and friends who are within
striking distance of these weapons.

The wife of a very rich coal magnet is getting the job of
representing the US in the united nations. Her  husband
gave a million dollars to the GOP, and another million to
Trumps inauguration fund. Trump never cares if a person
is qualified or not, as long as he has their support.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 03, 2019, 02:05:17 pm
The puppet Trump wanted to install to lead the various
intelligence agency's removed himself from nomination.
A more qualified person was put in as acting administrator
until Trump finds someone else he can control. Trump
doesn't want to be told the facts about the leaders of
other countries. Instead he wants to decide that for
himself. So he can get by with treating dictators like
friends, so they will give him their support and money.

Trump knows Russia helped him, he just doesn't want
to admit it to his supporters. Also he wants their
help again in 2020.

Trump has placed a man to lead the department of the
interior who wants to sell all government lands to
private commercial interests. This includes forests, desert
lands, coastal areas, and national  parks. Mining
industry, the oil and gas industry, and lumber industry
will soon be able to invade these lands to strip them of
natural resources, and how they leave them.
after will be up to them.

 Unless this is stopped, the pristine lands
we enjoy will be turned into waste lands. Lost for all
time.

The super rich will control all lands for the use of them
selves, or to those who they let or can pay to visit
them. I have said the GOP and Trump care only for power
and money, not for our country and it's natural beauty.
Only our votes have the power to put cuffs on the super
rich. If we don't, in a few years they will find away to
 even prevent that. It's not just the poor and disadvantage
at risk, it's all of us if we stand by and let it happen.

I believe if allowed the super rich will one day be in
control of the police, health care, schools, and many
other things government controls now. They will make
the laws to control the population. They will decide
who lives and who may not. Because they will do anything
it takes to protect them selves, and their power. The
common man will be little more than slaves to them. Not
only here, but around the world. 

Deny this if you dare, but the longer Trump and those he
controls, will bring ruin to our democracy, and the freedom
we enjoy.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 04, 2019, 01:11:59 pm
The media wants to blame guns for the violence in our country, but I
think it's more due to a lack of leadership in our  country. The GOP
won't stand up to big business and do what the majority of what
people want. People don't need guns like the AR 15. I am sure
some feel they need one for protection, but most people who
buy guns for protection end up killing themselves friends or
family, instead of a robber or killer. It takes a lot of training to
handle a firearm properly, especially when facing a dangerous
individual.

I think it's time we require training and the  licensing of individuals
who wish to  have a firearm. This wouldn't keep the public from
owning weapons, just making sure they know and understand the proper
use and care of them. Also it would help prevent unstable people from
obtaining a firearm.
 
Will Trump speak out against white supremacist, or will he continue to
support  them to get their votes?  Of course he doesn't say he approves
of their violence, but not speaking out against them is the same as
supporting them. People who fear and hate different  social ideas look
to a leader, they want to feel they are doing good work. Trump should
use his bully pulpit and condemn without any reservation these people
and their hate. Say it in a way that they would know it was him alone
and not because the media wants him to.

I fear Trump is unable to feel any shame for the hate he has  sown. It
all about wanting to win, and cares nothing for the lives his rhetoric 
may cost. I don't  think Trump is able to have moral feelings, because
it's just how his  mind works. Many psychiatrists have reported that
Trump is mentally deficient  in that he can't feel for others. You only
need watch him when he speaks. It's  a man pretending to be president,
trying to convince others of the same.

It's time those in the GOP to stand up and denounce Trump for his
hateful speech. I think if they did Trump would shrink in fear, and
reach out to his supporters for help. I think that help would be
small if the GOP members in the house and senate stood up and
told the party members that for the good of the country, Trump
has to go.

As long as the GOP leadership support Trump and his rhetoric, 
Most of the party members will as well. They listen to conservative
radio and TV, which feeds them the same poisonous rhetoric every
day. Not that the conservative media likes Trump all that well,
 They just tell people what they  think their audience wants to
hear. All to make them selves a lot of money. Before Trump was
nominated they were calling him an idiot among other bad things.

I don't know why people hate others so much. If they are so
afraid of immigrants, they should tell those in government
to eliminate the cause that brings people to our border. Just
killing them won't change anything. People who kill others hurt
themselves and their families. In the end they  only make a
bad situation worse. It's sad, but the people these killers follow
are just power mad individuals who use others to do their dirty
work. It's a shame, but we have a president who cares little for
anyone but himself.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 05, 2019, 12:52:02 pm
Trump knows how to make a good speech, now let's see him
walk the walk, and not just talk. Ever since he declared his run
for the office of president he has been spewing hate toward
 Latinos. So does he think one speech will cure all those people
he wants to call monsters? People who often quote the same hate
Trump spews in his rally's. Personally I  think that prepackaged
speech he gave today was him trying to cover himself and
the GOP for their lack of action in the past.

We may ask, why didn't Trump take questions after his speech?
Trump is very poor at thinking on his feet, so I imagine his staff
warned him not to. Afraid he would say something that would
wreck the speech he just made.

Both the house and the senate are on vacation, so it will be at least

a month before they will do anything more than talk on TV.
Trump wants to blame Mental health.
Violent video games.
The internet.
Lack of partisan legislation, much of which
has been blocked by him and the GOP.

Trump and the GOP both won't speak out against the NRA. An
organization who supports the manufactures of firearms. They
are against any legislation affecting the purchase or use of
firearms. I am sure this is why Trump left Guns off his
list of  causes.

I know many feel they need semi automatic firearms for family
protection, and large magazines for them. Personally I feel this
would only be effective against a small number of people. Trying
 to stop a mob of desperate people would take a lot of fire power.
Especially if they had guns too.

Protection against home invasion  doesn't require an ar15, a good
hand gun with training should give all the protection needed. Personally
I feel a good pump shotgun would do as well, and wouldn't kill the
neighbors with wild shots from a handgun.

All the laws in the world won't stop crazy people, but making it a
bit harder to gain  firearms would limit killings without taking firearms
from the general public. States that have passed laws on firearms do
show fewer killings by a fair amount.

Trump made some serious hints about internet control. If every
internet provider is held responsible for what is published, there
will be few internet providers left. Only those who can afford
the manpower to keep a complete check on their users. Sites
like Furtopia and other forums will  quickly disappear. This won't
stop the dark net, as overseas providers will make sites available
for a price.

The hate post of the El Passo killer posted only a half hour prior
to his attack. So it would have been virtually impossible to have
found and reported it before hand. Trump is just trying to
 place blame on anything but himself, and his use of hate.

It's time the GOP stand up and tell Trump to stop his speeches
of hate that divide the country, and encourage the actions of
those who hate. During Trumps speech he placed blame on
white supremacists, but he personally did not say he was
against them, because he wants their votes.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 07, 2019, 12:38:46 pm
Trump is already trying to put blame on politics, to
point at his political opponents instead of his own
rhetoric. He even made the claim his rhetoric brings
people together. Perhaps this brings his supporters
 together, but he may find it brings enough voters
together to defeat him.

Trump is traveling to Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, Texas.
Many people in both cities want him to  stay away,
they feel he is partly responsible, and his being there
is disrespectful to the victims.  This doesn't count the
$500,000 dollars he still owes the city of El Paso, Texas. 
This is what the city spent to give Trump protection
during his last rally there.

I am sure many people feel they should be able to
carry a AR15, but we restrict other styles of firearms,
a sawed off shotgun for one. Also machine guns.
These were restricted because of their danger
to the public and law enforcement.

Already the GOP is supporting Trump and his
rhetoric. It seems they are so afraid of Trump
and his supporters, they will support Trump
for almost anything. They may find this lack
of national morality will  cost them their
reelection as well.

Moscow Mitch, the current name for the leader of
the senate, still plans to block any action to control
the sale of firearms. Along with many other bills
the house has passed and sent to the senate. He
claims there is no point in move them as he expects
Trump to veto them. In reality he is protecting
GOP senators from a voting records that could cost
them their reelection. Not counting how it might
affect Trump with a long list of veto's.

Trump and the GOP is making the clame this violence is
due to mental illness. Then why did the GOP vote to
allow people who are officially mentally ill to buy firearms?
Trump signed this bill into law. This was one of the first
things the GOP and Trump did in 2017.

The GOP and Trump should be reminded of this each time
they make the claim that mental illness is the cause
of firearm violence. 


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 08, 2019, 12:44:18 pm

Trump is doing all he can to convince
the public, that  this talk about these
shootings is political more than policy.
Trump like most of the GOP fears the
NRA and the conservative media who
wants to dial down the talk about
 guns, and any new laws for them.

When Trump went to El Paso, he went straight
from the airport to a hospital. He would not
allow any news reporters to go with him into
the hospital. Then when he came out he claimed
he was greeted wih praise by everyone including
those who were injured. This is very likely a lie,
but as usual Trump is in campaign mode when he
see's a camera pointing his way.

This business of cover up and lie shows Trump is
afraid of the truth about anything he does.

Trump purposely  avoided the large protest
crowds when he visited the cities. Fortunately
there wasn't any violence while he was there.

I wouldn't be surprised, if during his next
rally he claims that large numbers of people
came out to cheer him in both cities. Though
most did not.

There was reports that ICE grabbed almost
700 immigrants who were working in Mississippi.
I wonder who these businesses will get to replace
them? It's doubtful the jobs are easy to fill
by citizens who want high pay for job
that doesn't get their hands dirty. Most
of the jobs were food processing. Now hundreds
of kids have no home with parents to care
for them. For the time being schools are
providing food and care, but that isn't going
to last. Some of the kids have relatives, but
most will likely end up in foster care.

This action by Trump will cost the government
millions of tax dollars. Previous presidents avoided
grabbing huge numbers due to  the high costs
envolved. Trump however cares little how much tax
payer money he spends. It's all about him and winning.

The democrats continue trying to get people who
worked for Trump in for questioning. Trump however
is doing allhe can to prevent it. We should be asking
why he is so afraid of the truth. If Trump didn't  lie
so much, he wouldn't have anything to fear.
Unless of course he is guilty of a crime.

The media continues to claim the US has more
shootings than any other country. I am not so
sure of this claime, but the GOP seems to use
the whole firearm business to gain votes.

It seems strange to me that people who are so
worried about the unborn, care so little for kids
who are killed with firearms. They support the
GOP who takes food out of the mouths of
children. They put children in cages, and treat
them worse than dogs in a cities animal control
facility.

I personally don't think gun laws will stop people
who really want to do mass killings, but they can
be useful to stop killings by spur of the  moment
design. Especially when a person cant just run down
to the local gun shop and buy a gun while wanting
to hand out somekind of revenge.

Laws must be about people, not so much the tools
used to  committ violence. I think part of the problem
is due to so many people growing up in broken
families. No father to look up to, so they often learn
to live on the streets. These people often grow up
feeling society cares nothing for them, so they care
little in return. If they must learn to  survive on their
own they will be feral by nature, and cost society
much more than any social program the GOP
wants to  cut.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 09, 2019, 12:37:34 pm
Trump continues to brag on everything he does. He claims
he  is for background checks on gun purchases, but it's going
to be weeks before the senate comes back from vacation. By
then Trump and Moscow Mitch will claim it's not worth
their time. Hopefully I am wrong, but I doubt it.

Of course he and the NRA may come up with useless checks
and claim he fixed the problem. These so called intelligent
checks could mean anything. Trump never mention the
tens of millions the NRA gave him and the GOP for reelection.

Trump continues to claim shootings are due  to  mentally 
ill people. Then why did he sign a bill to allow the mentally
ill to buy guns in 2017 ?

Trump is going on vacation. Personally I think he has been
on vacation ever since he took office. He has used air force
one to fly to his golf resorts over 100 times. He won't
play at Camp David or any other course. He wants to use
his own, so he can charge tax payers tens of thousands in
fees. To fill his own pockets.

Word has leaked out that when Trump visited the hospitals
in El Paso, and Dayton. None of the injured people wanted to
see him, much less hear him. Turns out he just walked the
halls so his staff could make a video. Apparently the hospital
staff was respectful, but little if any praise was given to
Trump. 

Trump continues to employ undocumented aliens at his golf
resorts. He claims he is checking them, but many have spent
years working for Trump.

When ICE grabbed almost 700 undocumented aliens at
food processing plants in Mississippi. None of the business
owners were even charged with hiring undocumented
aliens. Trump made the excuse these businesses were
always looking for undocumented aliens and weren't
guilty of anything. Just more of Trump and the GOP
looking the other way when it's a business who likely
supports the GOP.

The way ICE treats immigrants and their families is
disgusting, and downright deplorable. They should
be hanging their head in shame. If I knew someone
who was in ICE and guilty of mistreatment of immigrants
I would not have anything to do with them.

I have full respect for law enforcement as long as they
treat others with the respect they deserve. Using the
excuse that they are just doing their job, should get
them fired. The problem is good people won't do
the things Trump wants, so he hires people who will.
Or has  good people brain washed into thinking they
are doing good for the country.

Trump is still making excuses for the North Korean
leader, saying he and the leader are good friends.
Trump said he agreed with the North Korean leader
over the military exercises in South Korea. Claiming
they cost too much. This shows  how ignorant Trump
is when it comes to knowing how the Military
 maintains readiness. Without these exercises
many of our military could die due to  friendly fire.
Also these exercises don't add to the cost of
deployment there.

Trump continues putting people in jobs only if
they support him. Trump doesn't care if they
support the country. All he wants his their
loyalty, to him, and their praise. Just like a
spoiled rich kid would act.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on August 09, 2019, 07:19:47 pm
Say goodbye to salmon in Alaska, folks. This is just more proof that Trump only cares about big business and money, and little or nothing about wildlife and the environment.  >:(

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/us/epa-alaska-pebble-mine-salmon-invs/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 10, 2019, 12:17:55 pm
Trump has said many times he cares for children,
yet his ICE raids did nothing to protect the needs
of immigrant children of workers, who in almost all
cases are American citizens. While Trump sits back
and ignores them, then puts the blame on their
parents.

If Trump really wants to limit immigration
he and the GOP only need to stop businesses
from hiring undocumented aliens. A lot of people
come to the country to make money. Many of them
send money home to relatives. Some come to
 work then return home during off season
work.

Trump has hired foreign workers for many
years. Yet he stands up at his rally's
and says we should hire Americans. Trump
is nothing but a hypocrite. He hires people
he can pay low wages to, rather than hiring
American workers at a fair wage.

Where is the outcry from his supporters
who claim America first? Where is the
outcry to punish businesses for hiring
foreign workers over Americans.

Trump and the GOP want to keep politics
in a turmoils, because they know if
the public is happy they might punish
the GOP for cutting programs that hurt
people of this country, and they might
notice the GOP mainly works for the
rich. Also people might vote for the
democrats, and that could cost them
the power the GOP leadership desire.

This is because the GOP is a party with
a minority of voters. So they do all they
can to stir up their members so they will
want to vote. This is why they pretend to
care about abortion, and say they are
against the LGBTQ, and immigrants who tend
to care about people over money. They use
fear and hate if nothing else works.

Trump and the GOP are working to cut
government workers. Many from agencies
that protect the health of Americans.
Also agencies that farmers depend on
to make money while they grow the food
we need to eat. These cuts are costing
us experienced workers who over many
years have learned what it takes to
do a good job for the people.

They have cut environmental agencies
that protect our air and water. It
will be too late when people start
to die from cancer, caused by the
damage big business will do for
profit.

If you doubt this, just look back at the
1960's. Rivers had fires burning on them.
Big business was dumping chemicals in
land fills. Where when it leaked out of the
storage drums, it contaminated ground water.
Without regulations that Trump and the GOP
want to  get rid of, we will see this again.

The justice department under Trump
is refusing to prosecute possible
crimes by police, and big business.
This will allow even more damage 
 by those who only care about
profit over the public health,
and our country. Also they ignore
civil rights claims by minorities.

If we don't vote Trump out and take
the senate away from the GOP, this
country, and it's people will suffer
greatly. Trump's  tariffs are already
putting the country and the world
at risk of a recession.

Trump continues to claim China is suffering
a lot even though there is little evidence
of it. Will the GOP continue to spend billions
to keep small farms from going bankrupt?
Already Trump is only paying them half of
what the tariffs are costing them. So it's
likely many will be gone by 2021. Even if
Trump ends his tariffs, China isn't likely
to star buying produce from American farmers
again, because they will have found new places
to obtain their produce.

I have said it in the past, but the  super rich are
doing all they can to run the country. They put
people in government who will help them make
more money. No matter who it hurts. The rich
will build their homes in pristine areas that the
common man will be kept out of. They will lie
with scary advertising to keep the public from
voting for government controls. Already they spends
100's  of millions to support the GOP, and Trump. A
man who lied when he said he couldn't be bought.

If you think the super rich and powerful are nice
people, think again. They will try to get rid of anyone
who might have the power to destroy their world.
These people use their money to take advantage of
anyone they can. For sex, theft, and whatever else
they need or turns them on. Most of the super rich
give money to charity, perhaps hoping to buy their way
into heaven. I leave that decision to GOD.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 11, 2019, 01:03:26 pm
The millionaire who was accused  of raping young girls was found
dead, apparently due to suicide. He had been put on a suicide
watch a few weeks ago, but was taken off for some unknown
reason. The FBI is investigating this  suspicious death, but I
have my doubts how far it will go. Especially with attorney
general Barr. A man who will  stop at nothing to protect
Trump if not his own name. After all this man was reported
to have made these girls available to  the powerful and
the rich. Men who would do almost anything to protect
themselves from being accused of raping young girls.

Though his clients and friends may feel relieved by his
death, it's likely not the end but the beginning of a much
larger investigation.  It's time these people were exposed
and made to pay if found guilty. When the rich and powerful
are allowed to get away with crimes it hurts us all.

Trump was considered a clown by other rich people in New York,
now these same people are giving Trump what he desires. Their
respect. At leas in public, but I bet they are still laughing at
him behind his back. While they enjoy tax brakes that do nothing
but fill their pockets with money. 

It's sad, but many of the people who support Trump are in his
mind no better than the dirt under his feet. He has fooled them
into thinking he is working for them, and them alone. The
truth is, Trump considers anyone but the rich a waste of skin,
and good for nothing but to serve the rich.

I am sure Trump supporters want to believe him, but are
blinded by his promises to make America great. To rid our
shores of people they see as parasites. As in Hitlers Germany
Trump is using people's fears of change to control them.
Using their hate of seeing immigrants, and the poor get
 aid while they work hard for less.

Yes some do take advantage of government programs so
they can lay around and do nothing, but this could be
cured by making being on aid a pain. People who ask
for money should have to spend their days in schools,
looking for work, or sitting in a office.
 
We shouldn't punish people who try to help themselves.
When we take their aid away each time they do, we
encourage them to  sit at home and do nothing.

Some don't want us to  give the poor health care.
This is being shortsighted. People who are sick
can spread disease, and can become disabled
permanently. Ending  up costing us more.

Also  people who have nothing are prone to
committing crimes. This requires millions in
taxes for police and confinement. Not counting
time consumed in the courts. The annual cost
to keep one person in prison can be $50,000
or more.

Trump wants to round up people who came into
our country illegally, Not because they are
parasites, most of these people have jobs, and
pay taxes. Wile some American citizens sit on
welfare. He is just using this for politics, and to
keep the worst of his supporters happy. 

The GOP leadership just sit and hide. Many of
them won't show up to speak at town hall
meetings.Apparently a Afraid of embarrassing
questions.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 12, 2019, 01:18:24 pm
ICE has no issues with grabbing undocumented aliens, but
they seem to over look any laws a business may have
broken, by hiring undocumented aliens. I have a hunch
Trump and the GOP has a list of big businesses who are
 allowed to hire who ever they wish.

These workers are required to  cut up 24 chickens a minute. It's
no wonder they want people they can intimidate. There is
bound to be injuries working at break neck speeds. This at
a little over 10 dollars an hour.

Already one of the big chicken processing plants his having
a job fair to replace over 200 workers lost to ICE. So why isn't
the management in jail, or out on bail? The plants billionaire
owner most likely is a big donor to the GOP and Trump.

Trump is tweeting conspiracy theories. The very last thing
any president should do, Because it has the appearance of
a cover up. We may never know what if any involvement
Trump had with the accused pedophile. Trump denies
he was ever part of it. Though there was a reported
case that was dropped, where Trump was accused
of attacking a young girl.

 Unfortunately with enough money one can usually
 buy themselves out of trouble. Be it chicken processing
or sexual attacks.
 
Trump loves twitter, because he can make unfounded
claims, without the media filtering out his lies. So he
feeds his followers with conspiracy theories that have
little or no basis in fact. It's a shame Trump feels he
has to lie constantly to keep his supporters in tow.

Trump is a racist, and a white supremacist.  He claims
he is against this, but history has shown who he is, even
if he denies it. He and his father both discriminated against
blacks, and other minority.  Even the boor, no matter what
race or religion they might have.

People voted for Trump, because he made a lot of promises,
and the fact people wanted change. The trouble is Trump
has lied to the people. He apparently has tried to  make
new trade deals with China. The problem is he doesn't know
how to make deals between countries. He tries to intimidate
them, at least publicly. So far all he has done is hurt farmers
and small business men.

He promised savings for health insurance, and lower
drug costs. Little or nothing has been done to accomplish
this. He promised more factories, and jobs, but factories
are leaving, and jobs are minimum wage with few benefits.

The only promise he seems to be following up with is his attacks
on immigrants. To remove them, to block their entry into our
country. His wall is a total failure even though he continues
to claim he is building it.

His attempt to discourage immigrants by  treating them like
animals is hurting him and the GOP. Only time will tell if his
terrible treatment works in the end.

When asked Trump just wants to blame the democrats
for all of his troubles. Such a cop out for a man who
claims to be a genius.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 13, 2019, 05:07:20 pm

Trump is floating conspiracy theories that Clinton
 had the accused pedofile killed. Well if anyone had
the man killed, it could have been caused by Trump,
 because of his control over the justice department,
and they, have control over federal prisons.

It will be interesting to see if Attorney General
Barr does do a good investigation. Or just a short
one placing blame on prison officials. 

Trump apparently doesn't like animals either,
Because he wants to do away with the endangered
species act. Why? To allow big business to do
things for profit that may drive species to
extinction.

If you think this would only affect animals, well
think again. Humans are biological creatures
too. and what kills animals often kills us as well.
Many of those who run big business care little for
the environment when chasing profit.

Yes! Protecting endangered species does cost time
and money, but it also protects us, and the world
we live in.

Trump is increasing his attack on immigration. Now
he is wanting to limit immigration to people who
have health insurance, and a good credit score. Few
insurance companies offer coverage beyond the country
it is issued in. So it's Trumps aim to only allow
Lilly white professionals to become American citizens
from now on.

Now Trump isn't going to get a free ride with these
directives. People who care about endangered species
will be suing the Trump administration in court, and
others will be doing the same to stop Trumps crazy
immigration plans.

This country was founded, and built on the backs
of immigrants, not a bunch of rich money grubbers
like Trump and his cronies.

It appears Trump and many rich people want to make
this country a haven for the rich, and the rest of
us would become dependent on them.

Trump continues his lies, now totaling over 12,000
lies and misleading statements. For instance.
The economy is not the greatest in history.
The economy did better under president Eisenhower,
and other presidents.
He is not making our country great.
He isn't building a wall with Mexico, much less
making them pay for it.
just repairing what little there is of one.

This is just a sample of his lies.

He just wants to keep his followers confused enough
so they won't know what is a lie and what isn't.
Trump ran for president to make money, and nothing
else. He is using the GOP, because he never could
get elected otherwise. If he gets a second term,
the GOP will be destroyed along with our democracy.
Then he will try to get a third term, and just might
get it, because the supreme court would be in his
pocket by then.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a direct link
to the Mueller Report, but You really should read it. One of these
sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 14, 2019, 01:03:04 pm
Trump made a speech saying he was loosing billions
by being president. Now there is a laugh. He would be
gone in a heartbeat if that kind of money was at stake.

He even said he had a toy truck when he was a child. Duh,
virtually every boy had toy trucks, so this was a rather silly
remark. Perhaps he should have mentioned his teddy bear
too.

Trump decided to back down on his tariffs for China on
September 1. He claimed it was to save money for people
going back to school and the  holidays. Now isn't that
interesting. Trump has been claiming for months that
his tariffs only hurt China, Not Americans. So rather than
 admit he lied about who his tariffs hurt, he just acts like
he never said it. I hope people were paying attention,
but I have my  doubts.

I rather think Trump was worried about the stock market
more than the extra expense for the public. Ever since
he was elected he has been bragging on the stock
 market, but lately it had been dropping due to worry
over Trumps tariffs. So now that Trump pulled back,
the market has stabilized somewhat.

The idiot that Trump hired to handle immigration is
trying to rewrite the poem at the base of the statue
of liberty. Trying to say it was talking about people of
lower status, and not the poor, and disadvantaged. This
man needs a course in American history. Trying to claim
immigration was a thing of the past is nothing more
than an elitists idea of the present. People came to
this country for a new life, not a free ride as Trump
wants to claim.
 
Trump got a few GOP senators talking about legislation
on firearms. These  senators are hiding in a room
apparently trying to hammer out legislation the NRA
and the far right can live with. I fear this is just a stalling
tactic to keep the public happy till emotions cool down.
Then either try to  forget it, or offer something that will
do little to improve gun safety.

Demonstrations in Hong Kong continue,  but I fear the
so called communist government of China will send in
 armed troops if their police isn't able to  contain it.
Then hundreds if not thousands will die. Because China
doesn't want this to spread. They know people across
China want a real democracy, and would put the current
leaders to death if they had the chance.

The Trump administration is doing nothing to help anyone
but China. We should be using diplomacy to limit any
violence China may use trying to contain it. Only
pressure from the world community could convince
China to soften  it's response. Something Trump could
 bring on China if he cared, but Trump has no interest
in such things unless it hurts his pocket book.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 15, 2019, 12:43:37 pm
More disgusting facts have been revealed. Immigrants
who are being detained after crossing our southern
boarder are being held in hidden prison facilities that
are in Louisiana, and Mississippi. last reports over 8,000
are being held in these prisons.

The owners of these prisons claim they are following
federal guidelines, but I have a hunch they just barely
do. Then only when they are under inspection. There are
reports by those who have been in these places say
before inspectors arrive there is a big effort to sanitize
the facility.

These detention centers have a history of not providing
proper food, water, and sanitation for those they have in
custody. And guilty of not providing proper space or
comfort to sleep.  Even though they are well paid to
do so.

Worse yet, some of these people have little access to
legal help, and many are held for months in these
terrible conditions.

I think Trump is using his power to  detain immigrants
to make money for his rich friends, where he expects
them to turn around and give money to him for the favor.

I think these prisons were put in out of the way places so
the public wouldn't have to see, or hear the cries of those
mistreated by Trump.

One would like to think Trumps supporters have christian
hearts, wither Trump does or not, but I am beginning to
wonder. .

Though hundreds have died from hate crimes since Trump
was elected. The Trump administration want to  claim
white supremacy is disappearing. I am sure minorities
and the LGBTQ community would say other  wise.

Much of this hate has been encouraged by Trump's
rhetoric  that gives the worst of us presumed permission
to commit violence against those who are different. It's
you are either with us or against us idea that Trump
tells his supporters. He should be telling them he wants
support from all, not just those who like him.

From the start Trump has made his presidency one of an
American minority. Not for all the people, but for those
who support him. The president of our country  is elected
to lead the country as a whole, not just for those who
voted for him. But Trump only likes people who  like
him. So the rest of us can just kiss his backside for
all he  cares. Even those who supported him only get
his attention if he thinks it will gain him votes.

From the beginning Trump called his rally's private  places
for his supporters. No one else is welcome. Trump just can't
deal with people who oppose him. So he hides from them.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 16, 2019, 01:05:43 pm
It appears Trump is pulling back on any serious firearm
legislation  Though he said he would push for some.
 I imagine his friends at the NRA bent his ear over it. There
is still hope for red flag laws. It's likely the GOP fears loss of
money for their reelection more than people being  killed.

Even though a large majority of the American people want
stronger gun laws, Trump stood at his rally saying guns are
safe, because only people can pull the trigger. Trump used
to say no one could buy him, but it appears the NRA has.

The stock market took a bit of a tumble the other day due to
fears that a recession is on the way. Trumps tariffs are pushing
the world economy that way. Already some world countries
have economies that are slowing. Some even receding and no
longer growing.

Is Trump afraid of a recession? Is this why he is speaking out
against the congresswomen, claiming they hate Jews. Perhaps
it's  another diversion to confuse the public so they won't think
about the economy.

Then at his rally he tells his supporters they have to vote
for him if they want to protect their retirement. Is this
Trumps only policy? One of fear? Where is his plan to
make America great again? As is his promises have been
empty for the most part. Is his only answer  to those
who question him, is to have them thrown out of his
rally's? During the first 2 years of his presidency he had
control of the house and the senate. Instead of working
to use this majority  for the good of the country, he
spent his first 2 years  complaining the democrats were
out to get him.

Trump apparently wants to buy Greenland from Sweden.
Sweden publicly stated they had no wish to sell the ice
bound island. with the climate changes Greenland may
soon be really green. Then it will be much the same as
Alaska. Full of accessible minerals, and perhaps coal, and
oil as well.

Greenland was first settled by Eric the Red over 500 years
ago. Then left due to the climate. As time passed People from
Sweden have settled there. About 60,000 as of now.

We have treaties with Sweden that allow us to place military
installations there, unless Trump gets mad and we loose
them. If we really had wanted Greenland we should have
placed a bid for it at the beginning of the 20th century.
I kind of imagine the Soviet Union has tried to buy it already.
Could be Russia has since. As long as it has a ice pack,
shipping around Greenland will be hazardous.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 17, 2019, 12:45:20 pm
The top 4 democrats running for president
are all ahead of Trump who is stuck at 39%.

Joe Biden is still on top, then Sanders, Warren,
and Harris. Can Biden hold on to the top
position? Only time will tell, but lately he
has shown some weaknesses that Trump is
likely to exploit.

So we can expect Trump to  be  making all
kinds of accusations, trying to make himself look
better than them. Only thing Trump lies so much,
can he convince anyone of anything?

In spite of Trumps rhetoric, his rally's aren't
as full as they have been. Seats empty, and
yes, even people booing Trump. So many he
can't have them removed fast enough.

As I  have said in the past, Trump can't deal with
people who oppose him. He just turns his back on
the audience waiting for the booing to  subside.

If a few continue to  shout he tries to insult them,
 and if that fails he wants them removed. Trump
went to a large Shell facility to speak, and as
usual he tried to turn it into a political rally. He
claimed the plant was there because of him, but
it was started in 2012, Trump's policies nearly
caused the plant to be closed before it was finished.
The audience there was mostly union members who
were only there to  keep their overtime pay, not to
listen to Trump's lies. 

The apparent suicide of the accused pedofile was declared
a suicide, even though there is evidence it might have
been strangulation by persons unknown. Officials have been
punished due to him not being watched closely enough.
Much of the finding by the examination of the body is  yet
to be released. We can only wonder if this is being  done
to protect someone or evidence for a trial? We know
attorney general Barr will stop at nothing to protect himself,
Trump and others of power. So is a coverup in progress or not?

Trump is still bad mouthing the Moslem congress women,
hoping it will rub off on the democrats. So far however
it seems to  be helping the congress women.

Trump still tries to say he is out to protect the LGBTQ
community, but he has done many things to hurt them
since he has been in office. When he was running he told
religious conservatives that he would work to put a end
 to unnatural marriages. He spoke against transgenders
as well. Trump may have supported LGBTQ people in the
past, but he has thrown them under the bus to  be or stay
president. Some in the GOP claim they want to protect the
LGBTQ, but use the excuse they have to follow the
constitution. To hear them they are pure as the driven
snow, but I think that snow is more yellow than white.

It seems Trump is backing off his promise to work for
firearm background checks. Probably pressure from
the NRA. An organization run by a leadership
that spends millions on it's top people. Even though
they are loosing members who have lost faith in it's
original reason for being.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 18, 2019, 12:41:07 pm
Trump should work to stabilize central America instead
of trying to block the people who are trying to escape
death and starvation at home. The money he is spending
on blocking and imprisoning immigrants would go a long
way to fix their problems, and his problems too.

Trump lives and dies with the stock market. We can only
wonder how much money he has tied up in it. He brags
when it goes up, and is quiet when it goes down. If we
had a crash, he might jump off is tower.

Trump is still talking about the purchase of Greenland. Even
though Sweden has said no sale. Perhaps Trump thinks he can
build a golf course or Trump dowwer there.

Trump is trying to blame shootings by white supremacist a
mental issue of  sick people instead. If Trump really believed
people with mental problems shoot people, then why did he
sign the GOP bill  that allows mentally ill people to buy
firearms?

I do think mass shooters do have mental problems, but it's
Trump's rhetoric that encourages a sick person to kill, 
because in their mind they are helping  him.

A mentally ill person may not know the difference between
political rhetoric and a real threat to the country. Sometimes
I wonder if Trump even knows.

Trump ran claiming he would work to  fix the infrastructure
of our country. Well it's been almost 3 years and nothing. In
fact it was his big tax cut for the rich that took the money
needed to  do the job. What does Trump say? It's the democrats
fault! When in fact the democrats have tried time and time
again to do the job, but Trump stalls because he knows that
 he spent the money on the tax cut he promised to his rich
friends.

It's time the  voting public puts people in office who really
want to fix our government. There is so much corruption
it would take a book to list all the money grubbing that
exist, even before Trump. "And it's not limited to  the GOP
either."

Even people who do contract work for the government tack
on extra costs, because it's a government job who will pay
more. A billion dollars was spent to set up a web site for the
ACA. Why? Because the government by law, had to hire a
big money grubbing company instead of people who could
have done a better job for much less.

Politicians in the past have added on sweet deals to laws for
political gain. So over the years it's gotten completely out of
hand. Even with a two thirds majority and a good president
it would take years to  undo all the mess. With people who
were on the take, would be crying that the undo will
destroy the country.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 19, 2019, 01:13:17 pm
Trump continues trying to  divert attention from his troubles
with his lies. Seems when people cheer at his rally's he
thinks it is a  vote of confidence. Well a crowd is only cheering Trump as an entertainer,  not  so much for anything else. He just might find out
how empty his support is in 2020.

As usual Trump is trying to pass the buck. He should know as
president Truman said. "The Buck Stops Here."  That is with the
president.

It's very doubtful that Trump who went bankrupt 4
times can do anything to make our economy better.
Placing blame on the federal reserve, news media,
or the democrats won't help the economy.

Of course if Trump had a few Trillion dollars to spare
he might give the economy a real boost. But alas
he hasn't his father to lean on any more.

He and his paid puppets spent the weekend trying to
paint a good light on the economy. If everything is so
good, how come they think they must defend it. A good
economy will defend it's self.

The average growth is 2.1% when Trump and the GOP
had predicted by now it would be 4% or more. Why?
Because they sold the public the idea that big business
would put their big tax savings into growth. Instead they
mostly put it in their pocket. Money squirreled away does
little to help the economy.

Trump and the GOP continue to  use socialism as a fear
tactic against the Democrats. They cry it will destroy the
economy, and our free market system. What they don't
want to talk about is how well other countries like
Canada, Sweden, and other democracies around the
world are doing with government health care and several
other social programs. Their governments don't use
socialism to crush free enterprise. Instead it gives
growth to their economies. When people have
money in their pockets they can support small
business across the board.

Trump and the GOP only want to support big
businesses, and the  rich. The little guy rarely
gets the support the big  guys do. I had a small
business and know from experience.  The bigger
you are the better deals you get. It's mostly
due to the fact that big business hands the GOP
money for  reelections. Where the little guy
rarely has   extra money to feather a
politicians nest.

With the GOP is all about how much money you
can give them. They claim they care about the
little person, but after they are elected our needs
fail to exist.

There isn't anything wrong with being rich, unless
you use the money to hurt others. In the past
most people in business provided a service to
the community as much as wanting to build
wealth. Now it seems the bigger a business is
the less it cares about service over profit. The
desire today is to be a billionaire, not creating
a society that makes life better for us all.

I fear this form of greed if allowed, will eventually
turn the country into one of servitude to the rich,
and little else.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 20, 2019, 01:16:55 pm
The military launched a cruise missile that traveled
500km to it's target. So starts a new arms race.
Trump claims we must work to improve our missile
capability, but for other than missile defense
I see no reason to do so. We should use diplomacy
and sanctions against Russia, rather than trying to 
match their arms. We already have the ability to
destroy life on this planet, so why build more?

The more arms, the  more likely a war can be started
accidentally. When people who wish to run the lives of
others gain power, there is always the chance of war.

The trouble with Trump, he loves the idea of a strong
military, but doesn't have the knowledge to use it.
I fear we are in the hands  of a man who may start
a nuclear war.  A man who feels he must always win,
at any cost. 

Hopefully we have people in the military who will filter any
idea Trump might try, if it puts all of our lives inn danger
without good cause.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 21, 2019, 12:08:20 pm
Trump is playing up to Putin again by trying to get
Russia back into world business affairs. Russia was
booted out when they invaded Ukraine. But I  guess
Trump thinks we should forgive and forget Russia's
transgressions. Especially since it was a decision of
President Obama.

Trump is hitting the immigrant kids again. Now wanting
to detain them in cages for as much as 60 days or until
a judge  decides what to do with them. A judge put
a 20 day limit on this, but Trump is trying to  get
around this by creating a new rule for ICE. Trump
should know the moment this goes into effect it
will be contested in court.

Trump with his big mouth has insulted at least 80%
of the Jews in this country. Saying if they don't vote
for him, they and democrats as well, are disloyal
 Americans. Trump seems to think he can get by
with bullying  anyone. Perhaps  he will make enough
people mad at him, so they will vote him  out of office. 

There is a prediction that Trump will lose against
any of the democrats running. Who would get at
the very least 278 electoral votes. 270 wins. Yes
its too early to say, but the person making the
prediction accurately predicted the outcome
in 2016, and 2018. So Trump best have his bags
packed by 2021.

Well as I figured, Trump is mad at Denmark because
they won't agree to talk about his purchase of
Greenland. So like all little boys, he is in a
pout, and refused his state visit there.

I hope Denmark doesn't kick our military out of
Greenland, but with Trump, who knows what he
might say. Which could cause a falling out with
Denmark. An  ally of the USA for over 200 years.

Trump is claiming the talk about a recession is
just the media and others trying to actually start
one to hurt his chances for reelection. Well open
your eyes as well as your big mouth Mr president.
There already is a world slowdown in production
of products. Businesses don't want a lot of
products on hand if there is a chance of a
slowdown of the economy. Your stupid
tariffs started it for the most part. Not the
media or the democrats.

Elizabeth Warren had her biggest rally yet with
over 12,000 people inn attendance. I think
this was a great turnout for those in Minnesota.
One of those Midwest states Trump thinks he
will win in 2020.

The news should ignore Trump unless he actually
talks about policies, and not politics. Let him pay
for the coverage of his political nonsense. If they
don't they should have to  give equal  time to
all the democrats running for president as well.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 22, 2019, 12:44:19 pm
Trump signed a bill that will remove student debt
for our disabled veterans, and those who are not. 
Even though this was a bipartisan effort started
by a democrat. Trump made it sound like it was his
idea.

Trump floated the idea of a 10% tax cut for people
who are wage earners. But with a trillion dollar deficit
facing the country, the democrats and some of the
GOP would want to raise taxes on the rich to pay for it.

This made Trump mad, so even though he ran on reducing the
national debt, he cares more about winning than  the deficit we
face. If the GOP sill had control of the house, they would likely
be reducing all social programs. Including social security, and
medicare. Two programs the GOP never liked. Instead of
increasing taxes for the riches Americans.

Trump is still trying to  blame Obama for letting
Russia invade Crimea. Seems Trump wants to blame
H Clinton, and Obama every time he sucks up to
Putin. As if he wants to apologize for any interference
the Obama administration caused.

Well it seems the truth is finally coming out. Trump
considers himself a deity, the chosen one. Not me
saying it, but Trump during his press conference.
I have heard evangelical preachers calling Trump a
gift from GOD, but I am a bit surprised that Trump
sees himself that way. Perhaps he is mentally
disturbed to a greater degree than even I thought.

Yet the GOP leadership just stands and shakes their
heads. When they should be working to remove a
man who is dangerous to himself as well as our
country.

We can only wonder what Trump will do if the economy
drops as it appears it may do. Will he become hysterical
over it? Who can say what he will do if he loses the
election.  If it's close he will likely want to invalidate it
with the claim of ineligible people voting. Hopefully it's
a big loss, or it could split the country.

Reports are Trump plans to go after anyone who
might keep him from winning in 2020. No facts,
just anything, including conspiracy theories   
that he thinks might help him win. So it's going
to be crazy Trump all the way. He might even toss
the VP under the bus if he thinks it will help.

Seems Trump calls any woman of power "Nasty"
unless she agrees with him. This is how he
referred to a leader of Denmark, because
she called his plan to buy Greenland " Absurd".
Of course Trump never likes anyone who doesn't
agree with him, and calls them bad names. Just
like a little kid would if he couldn't get his way.

People were hoping the 2 shootings early this
month would tip the balance to get Trump and
the GOP to pass meaningful gun legislation, but
the NRA is fighting it, so save gun manufactures
profits.  By the  time the senate is back from
vacation they won't do more than give their
condolences to the families. About
the only thing that has any chance is
red flag legislation.

Well there is 10 democrats eligible for the next
debate, and possibly 3 more if their poll numbers
get high enough. I don't think the DNC really
wanted to have another 2 night  debate, but it
looks like there may well be one anyway.

The candidates are crisscrossing the country
hooping for the support that will gain them the
nomination. People are looking for a winner, but
it will take a strong get out the  vote by the
 democrats to  win the day.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 23, 2019, 12:43:58 pm
Trump and the GOP claim they are against
socialism. Yet Trump tries to order businesses
around. In a true free market system,  what a
business does should be controlled by their 
ability to make a profit. Of  course due to
greed businesses have to be regulated when
they try to take advantage of the public. The
GOP should admit they have to use socialist \
practices at times to protect the public, country
and workers.

Trump, or should I say Lord Trump? Has left to to
be at the economic summit. In a way I think they
should just lock Trump out. Because he is likely
going to lie about how great he is, and try to tell
the other members what to do. As if he is some
kind of economic genius. I am sure  the other
members of the G7 know better than to
listen to Trump, a first class con artist.

China has turned on Trump and put more tariffs of
their own on the U S A. His bullying isn't getting
Trump anywhere with China. In fact China has
benefited from Trumps being president.

It's possible China will try to help Trump stay in
office. Not for the economy, but to keep the U S A
from growing in renewable energy, and other advances,
Along with more international influence.

This is something every authoritarian government has
not liked about the U S A. Before Trump we worked
to give people more freedom and human rights around
the world, but Trump could care less who has rights
or freedom. It's all about Trump and nothing else.

As we near the next debate among the democratic
candidates, some are pulling out. Some will likely
run trying to defeat GOP senators up for reelection
next year. We can hope the senate cam be flipped
to stop Moscow Mitch from packing the federal courts
and his blocking of house bills the senate should
vote on.

This blockage is due to the GOP leaderships fear
of loosing the support of  big money and Trumps
voters. Moscow Mitch claims he is just blocking
votes for bills he knows Trump will veto. Well
let Trump veto them. That's part of his job. Not
the senate.

Also some may run in state governorship's.  We
need more democratic governors to stop the
GOP from gerrymandering congressional
districts to their favor in 2021.

It's time we stop the use of Dark Money. Money
that comes from anonymous sources. All
political support should be in the public eye.
People and other entities should be proud to say
who they support, and not do it while hiding
under a rock. Especially when it's by
big business.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 24, 2019, 12:44:03 pm
Trump is claiming his remarks about being the chosen
one was just a joke and sarcasm. Oh yes, that is always
his excuse when he says things that end up causing him
to look mentally disturbed.  The trouble is all the other
things he does that hurts our country. These so called
jokes make him and our country look terrible to the
rest of the world.  No competent president would
make himself out to be a fool, or mental.

How far will the GOP let Trump go before they stand
up on their hind legs and say enough? If Trump is
reelected, will they continue to cower in the
shadows, afraid of Trump and his vile tweets?
Only time will tell.

Trump came out and ordered businesses to pull out
of China. Well this is one power Trump does not have.
So he can just pout if he doesn't like it, because it
would do great harm to those businesses to turn
away from other markets around the world, especially
China. It's up to Trump to deal with treaties of Trade.
Trump is finding that being president isn't a walk in
the park as he tried to claim when running for the office.

If he does try to enforce this by putting sanctions of
these companies for not doing his bidding. The stock
market will really drop along with profits. Then
as these companies loose money they will start
firing workers, and that will put others out of
business, and their workers will loose their jobs
too. When one business goes it often pulls others
with them. So starts a recession, and
with luck not a depression.

It seems every time the GOP and their love of the
rich, runs the government. We end up with big
deficits due to tax cuts for the rich. Cuts they
always claim will improve the  economy, but rarely
if ever does. Because the GOP never takes greed
into account.

The rich unlike the middle class don't spend
the tax cut on goods most people buy, they
invest it to make more money. Also the rich
that benefit from these tax cuts only amount
to about 5% of the population. Though they
take many billions  out of revenue needed
to run the government.

Then when the economy starts to fail people elect
democrats, who are left with the work to fix the
problems the GOP created. These fixes often are
painful, so people turn around and put the GOP
back in power to ease their pain. This cycle just
goes around  and around. The trouble is as it
does the deficit just continues to grow. Because
people won't stay with financially responsible
people. Instead they go with those who claim
cutting social programs, and tax  cuts, which is
mostly for the rich will fix everything.

A lot of people who voted for Trump
felt Trumps craziness would end
once he was elected. Well as I
thought his craziness is just how
he is. A mentally disturbed individual
who has no business being president.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 25, 2019, 01:03:47 pm
Trump made a comment that he wished he had
made tariffs with China even higher. If he does
it will just push us closer to a recession.

There are reports that France may be trying to
start talks with Iran, and perhaps encourage
them to speak to  Trump. or to other  diplomats.
The Europeans want Iran to stay wit the treaty
Obama made, even though Trump does not.

Some people don't really care what the rest of
the world thinks about Trump. They want America
for Americans. This is why they don't want
immigrants, and white nationalists don't want
immigrants of color.

Nationalism will cause us to loose jobs as many
of our larger businesses export to other countries.
They may even decide to move out of the country
rather than having to  deal with Nationalists.

Sitting back and letting the world go by has been
tried before. It didn't work then, and won't work
now. If we don't help other countries keep strong
democracies, they will move to authoritarian forms
of government. I can guarantee those kinds of
governments will never be our friends, and a
world without friends will cause our demise.

Trump plays to people that feels the government
shouldn't help a lazy couch potato guy or gal.
One who may lives next door with a loud dog
and a  half  dozen kids who never behave.

The trouble is Trump tries to paint minorities
with this picture. When it's not a minority
problem. I had a neighbor who was just like
that and he was as white as they come.

We tend to  notice minorities more, but in reality
most of them work as hard as anyone. Some even
harder. How many people  do you know would do
stoop labor for minimum wage or less?

The problem I see is when someone who is on
welfare tries to help them selves, their welfare is
immediately  cut. It's no wonder why people give
up when they can't even make a dollar without
being punished.

It takes time to go from being homeless and jobless
to being able to afford the things many of us enjoy.
I sometimes think those in government want to keep
people dependent on aid, rather than helping them
succeed. I think the GOP wants to keep people on
aid, so they can point to them when wanting to be
reelected.

Trump is still pushing to hold immigrants in custody
while waiting for adjudication on their asylum claims.
With charges of over $750 a day to hold these people,
private prison owners are making millions. We can only
wonder how much money they are kicking back, to help
Trump get reelected.

Trump is apparently sending help to Brazil. To help
with the big fires eating at the amazon jungle. We
can only wonder why Trump is doing this. I am sure
he feels it will benefit him, as it will us all.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 26, 2019, 12:23:48 pm
Trumps offer to help with the fires that are destroying
the amazon jungle was nothing compared to what
is needed to help stop them. He might as well tossed
a cup of coffee on the fire.

After this and how much federal land have been opened by him
to big business he still tries to claim he is an environmentalist.
If it wasn't so sad, I would laugh. Hopefully we can undo
much of his environmental destruction when he is gone.

It seems the G7 was more about talking nice to  Trump
than work to help the  world economy. Trump is still trying
to tell the public that his tariffs only hurt China, and not
the buying public. Trump said he was sure China would
capitulate soon. Somehow I think the leader of China is
smarter than Trump, and the sooner Trump realizes this
the better.

Much was said about Iran, but Trump is still wanting them
to bend over, and accept his terms. The deal we had with
Iran was very good, but Trump hates Obama, and broke his
hard  fought treaty with Iran. So now we may end up with one
more nuclear power in the world. Because Trump wanted to
make Obama look bad.

Trump just lies on and on, even to people who know he isn't
being honest. They can only hope he doesn't wreck the
world before he leaves office.

The stock market bounces up and  down with every tweet
and speech Trump makes. At what point will investors feel
it's time to run before they loose their shirts? It's doubtful
that Trump will ever know.

Trump wants Russia back to the G7, and tried to say Obama
should not have kicked Putin out. When asked about the Crimea
 invasion, Trump changed the subject, and claimed he punished
Syria for gassing children. Even though his attack did little
more than damage a runway.

Trump makes claims of great plans, but never gives details about
them. That of course gives him an escape route when nothing
of consequence happens. I consider all his talk just bragging 
and lies until something really happens.

Some people would worry about telling lies, but Trump never
cares if his lies are proven to be lies. He just keeps telling them.
Then if one backfires enough he just tells another to cover
it up.

I really don't know why anyone would believe him on anything.
Especially if it might cost them money. Trump still tries to say he
is loosing money being president. It's just more of his lies. I hope
the economy isn't harmed by Trump, but people who voted for him
may wish they never heard of him in the end.

Trump is wanting to setup the next G7 at one of his resorts. Now
he wouldn't admit it's to make him and his family money. But
because he has the very best accommodations. Instead he should
try to help businesses other  than his own, but that wouldn't
help him and his wallet.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Glycanthrope on August 27, 2019, 08:42:46 am
Nice series of informative posts, there.
But let me just nudge in a few comments on the undergoing Trump/Greenland/Denmark debate.

Trump has not made an offer to buy Greenland from the Swedish (as you mention in your first post.)
If Trump calls up PM Stefan Löfven, to put in an offer for Greenland, he will likely be met with uncomfortable silence and giggles.
Greenland is of course a part of Denmark. (Which you correctly quote in the following posts,) Not Sweden.

"Eric the Red" landed on Greenland in Ca 1000AD, which arguably is more than 500 years ago. Erik was from Norway, which was a part of Denmark until 1814. Thus, Greenland, Norway and Denmark share a very long history together. 

Regarding the actual sale

First: Regardless of how ambitious the offer, Denmark cannot legally sell Greenland. Period.
Greenland and its people are protected by the series of UN writs concerning indigenous people, written in the wake of WWII.
Legally, that piece of property is simply not for sale.

Trump and his followers are quick to quote how Denmark sold the Virgin Islands (and its people) to the US in 1917.
Denmark later agreed with President Truman to host the U.S. owned "Thule Base" in northern Greenland, during the 1950's.
From a political POV, It makes perfect sense to demonstrate how the U.S and Denmark have previously traded property to mutual benefit, and argue the recent Trump proposal is not - as PM Mette Frederikesen commented "Absurd!"
But times have changed since WWII, and indigenous people are protected from being trade items.
- At least within the U.N.

Second: In 2009, Denmark and Greenland formed the "self-governance agreement," which (among many other things) stipulate that Greenlanders are their own, self governing people. However, they politically share their landmass with the Danes. Which brings us to...
 
Third: Part of that same agreement states that the Greenlanders can go independent of Denmark, any day they decide they are ready to go solo. From that day onward, Greenland, its people and the entire landmass fully belongs to the Greenlanders.
However, currently Greenland receives an annual 600.000.000$ in financial support from Denmark, which evens out to
$1000 per capita, every month. So the temptation to stay affiliated with Denmark has so far remained strong.

Summing up: should Trump somehow manage to close the deal, it automatically comes with an expiry date.
And that expiry date is set by the Greenlanders themselves. Not a a great deal, Donald... it's sad... you're not gonna love it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 27, 2019, 01:22:52 pm
Okay Glycanthrope
Thanks for the clarification about Greenland and Trump.
 My posts are to inform more than to give Trump and
the GOP a hard time. I feel the public needs a place to
remind people about Trump and the GOP who
supports him.

I am an independence where I feels my country is being
harmed by a man who cares nothing for anyone but
himself, and a party who cares more about power and
money than the country they
want to represent.

Stay tuned, as I plan to keep posting till Trump is
removed. Either by impeachment or the voters.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Glycanthrope on August 27, 2019, 06:26:31 pm
Well put, Old Rabbit.  I understand what you are trying to accomplish here, and I fully agree with your sentiment.

My point in the above post was to clarify some of the legal aspects that tend to be overlooked during the current debate on
handling the ownership of Greenland.

It's my observation that most of the world simply shrugs off President Trump's ham-fisted approach, as yet another silly flight of fancy.
Yet, we Danes do feel concerned about the future of our Arctic brethren.

Greenland is undergoing a massive transition these years, due to global warming. While most of the world bemoans the
consequences of the melting ice, the Greenlanders themselves remain surprisingly content. The rising temperature and receding ice uncovers virgin soil that allows the Greenlanders to grow crops, in turn making themselves increasingly independent of imported goods.

Good for Greenland, yet it is a double-edged sword.

Greenland is a treasure trove of rare metals and minerals. For generations, Greenlanders have picked up precious stones, including emeralds, rubies and diamonds straight off the surface with their bare hands. They even have stipulated a law that allows anyone to freely harvest gems at their own discression. But with the receding ice borders, the country is quickly turning into any prospector's wet dream. Given the vast size of the country, the supply is almost limitless. This has caught the attention of - not only the US, but also Canada, China and Russia. All of which are making frantic bids on how to tap into this modern Klondike. Alarmingly, these are also countries that have a major impact on global warming. In a perverse turn of interest, global warming is thus turning Greenland into a get-rich-quick scheme for greedy investors. This in turn may put a damper on the efforts to stop global warming, if we continue to put the wrong people in charge.
 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 28, 2019, 12:52:44 pm
Yes, though the audience here is small. It's young people
who have the most to loose if greed over takes the world.

It appears debate number three by the democrats will be
one night with ten candidates, instead of two nights. Those
who haven't made the grade are complaining. Well if after
months  of going after support hasn't made them at lease
2%, it's time to do something else. So stop with the sour
grapes and work to help defeat the madman in the white
house.

Trump is taking money from FIMA to help pay for boarder
legal problems he is having to deal with. So if we have
more disasters this year. What will people do when FIMA
runs out of money because of Trumps sticky fingers.

Attorney genera Barr is paying Trump 30,000 tax dollars
so he can have a holiday party at his Washington DC Hotel.
for those who work at the Department of Justice. Just more
of Barr's kissing up to Trump at tax payer expense.

Trump is wanting to use eminent domain laws  to clear
the way to build his wall. He is even telling those who
will build the wall they can break the law if they need
to, and promises to pardon them later. When Trump
ran for office he complained that eminent domain laws
were bad, and now he likes them.

The person who sits in the white house is
nothing but a disgusting individual. Today
he decided to have people who came here
for life saving medical treatment must now
leave. Not after their illness has been
cured, so they can just go home and die. How
 does this make our country great? These are
mostly  children. Not even immigrants, or any
threat to our country.  In the past Trump has
said he loves Children, but we can see it was a
filthy lie.

Just how bad does Trump have to get before he
is summarily removed. What shame does the people
of this country have to endure, before this
terrible person looses support as our president?

How can people who call them selves Christians
stand by and still support a man who acts more like
a creature of the devil than one of GOD? What
will they say to their maker when judgment day
arrives? Somehow I doubt the excuse they supported
Trump to help save the unborn will be enough.

The GOP stands up and claims they care about the
unborn. Then  once the unborn become children
they loose interest in them. In my state alone the
GOP Governor is taking children off medicate, even
though it will mean their death. Where is their
concern when it might not buy them votes?

Why is it the GOP wants to punish a doctor or the
clinic who performs the abortion, but not the woman
who wants one? The woman gets a pat on the head,
and is told to finish her pregnancy next time, even
though it was started by insets, or rape. The GOP
wants to say being pregnant is a choice made by
GOD, and not the woman.

Then I say leave it between GOD and the woman, and
not by politically driven laws.

What is Trump hiding when he doesn't want
his tax records seen by congress? Trump
claims he has done nothing wrong, and totally
innocent of everything. So as I say. What
is he afraid of? Could it be he lied about
his finances?

I kind of think when a man has to go to a
corrupt bank to borrow money, and likely has
a Russian oligarch cosigning his loan. Is likely
not wanting people to know. Especially if that
man is president of the united states, and wants
to be reelected.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Glycanthrope on August 29, 2019, 08:03:49 am
Your audience here on Furtopia may be small,
but you certainly do not stand alone in your skepticism towards the Trump administration.

According to (yet another poll this week) (*)
54% voters would be completely unhappy / somewhat unhappy with Trump doing a second term
16% Don't care
29% Would be Happy / Very happy

(This was based on Ca 5000 voters in general -not just GOP supporters.)
But the numbers may suggest a growing desire for replacing Trump.

Now I may be biased (or lacking information because I'm observing from abroad), but it seems to me the democrats have the stronger hand at this moment, as Biden, Warren and Sanders have become household names -also outside the US. Over here, Sanders is the favorite candidate, hands down. (He has said many loving words about Denmark (**)  so... we love him right back. That's KARMA, baby.)

But ask anyone about Joe Walsh, and the chances are good they will start singing "Hotel California."
Bill Weld? John Kasich? Seems to me the GOP has some catching up to do.



Sources:
(*) https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-08-21/usc-la-times-republican-poll-trump-populism
(**) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ei72MwEcPQ
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 29, 2019, 11:48:21 am
Yes, the GOP and their cult leader Trump may get spanked
in 2020, but voters must turn out in big numbers to be
successful against them.

VP Joe Biden is still the democrat favorite to be nominated
to run for president in 2020. Yes it's still early with months
to go before the first primaries. In a way I kind of wish the
parties would  return to choosing candidates in private. That
way we wouldn't have to put up with almost a year of people
running for president. I think by the time we have the real
election, people are so tired they just want it to end.

I think all elections should be limited to 3 months from start
to ballot. Also campaigns should be paid with tax dollars. That
would help limit influence by big money. As is candidates have to
spend much of their time raising money instead of doing the
job they are elected to do.

Trump is still pushing the Space Force idea. This sounds
cool, but is a waste of money until we have craft that
can easily fly into space and back. Right now the Air
Force is handling it as well as technology allows.

Well it appears Trump is wanting to look good
for this hurricane. It may do a lot of damage
in his favorite state of Florida. So he wants to
keep those  voters happy. He will need them in
2020.  I have a hunch Trump will be staying at
the White House this Labor Day weekend. Of
course  knowing Trump he will likely be wanting
to play golf, and may sneak off to do so. If he does
he could end up looking like he doesn't care. Now
who would think that?  :P

As usual Trump wants everyone to think he is
perfect in every way. So he bragged that his
people did a great job in Puerto Rico this time
as well. Though the last time was a disaster.
Because he doesn't consider them true
American citizens, and would like to forget
about them.

The FBI director Trump fired because he wasn't
loyal to  him. Was found not guilty of releasing
classified documents. That's the memos the director
wrote about his discussions with Trump, a man who
wants to hide anything that might make him look bad.
No matter who it hurts.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 30, 2019, 12:51:31 pm
Well as usual Trump and the GOP are up to no good
once more. Not only are they opening up Alaska to  oil
and gas exploring, they want to open Alaska's wilderness
to lumber, and mining operations as well.

Not only will  this destroy  a pristine environment many
rare species of animals depend on, it will pollute the
rivers that millions  of Salmon breed in. Salmon  that
many many people need  for food. Not counting the
damage to a large fishing industry. Also many people
who  live in Alaska will loose their way of life.

The loss of another large forest will deplete the worlds
ability to maintain life on this planet. According to  science
about 8% of the worlds oxygen is created in Alaska. Yes,
a small amount, but when you add it to the fires around
the world, and ocean pollution we loose more and more
breathable air, and it ads much to global warming as well.

Trump is trying to cut foreign aid around the world. This is
a bad idea. Oh I am sure Trump's supporters will cheer,
but this aid helps give people hope, otherwise countries
like Russia will move in and turn them against us. The
U S A depends on it's friends around the world for
national security, and many other  things we need
to survive. These ignorant acts Trump play's for votes
does serious harm to the country.

The media is making a big deal out of Joe Biden messing
up a story about a military man deserving of a medal.
This after Trump has lied and made mistakes over 12,000
times since taking office. I am sure Trump is pleased, and
will likely add to it.

Well Trump canceled his trip to Poland and sent his
butter wouldn't melt in his mouth BP instead. I guess
Trump felt he needed to put on a caring face since the
hurricane will affect his voters.

I wonder how those voters will feel if FIMA runs out of
money? Especially since Trump took 250 million out of
their budget the other day.

I think this business of kicking seriously ill children
out of the country, where they will likely die, was
either one of Trumps sick ideas or one of his sick
greedy underlings trying to make  points with him.

Otherwise I think the white house would have had an
excuse ready to give the press. As is they seem to have
been caught flat footed on the issue. So far I haven't
heard anything from the white house via the media.

The way this story is growing, Trump will have to explain
himself, or he will have the GOP leadership on his case. He
may feel he can ignore the democrats, and the media, but
if the GOP turns  on him he is in trouble.  If the current
Polling is accurate, Trump is in trouble anyway.

It seems the white women to supported Trump in 2016,
don't like how he is treating children and people in
general, and the polling shows they don't plan to 
vote for Trump again in 2020.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 31, 2019, 12:41:29 pm
Trump is complaining that one of his loyal staff members
told the press things that embarrassed him and his family.
I think Trump is likely just over reacting as he hates any
leaks to the press about things he might say off hand.

Trump has a habit of leaking secrets to friends and possibly
to the enemies of our country. Because he likes to brag to
those that didn't respect him in the past.

Just as I figured, Trump couldn't stay in the White House
this weekend. He is off to Camp David so he can play golf.
When Trump ran for office, he said he would be working
all day every day, but so far he has been gone over 200
days to play golf, an stay at his resorts.  Costing tax
payers millions and millions of dollars. When Obama
was president. The GOP complained if he went to visit
his grandmother in Hawaii. Yet they never complain
about Trump and his waste of tax dollars.

I just wonder if those ranchers in Texas will stand still
while Trump grabs their land to build his wall? People
don't like the government grabbing their land for
any reason, much less for a wall many of them
don't like.

Texas has been marching ever closer where they
may flip to the democrats. This may just be the
finger that tips  them over. If it does, Trump best
pack his  toothbrush, because it will mean his
loss for sure.

In fact several southern states are moving away
from the GOP. Not just because of Trump, but
it's the changing population who doesn't like
GOP cheats and policies.

The GOP along with the Evangelical leaders are
doing all they can to deceive white people so they
won't follow the democrats. They know if the people
put the democrats in power, their power and corruption
will be at an end.

It's sad how the Evangelical leadership deceives
their followers with misleading claims. It's been
shown that some of their leaders spend millions
for personal homes, perks, large aircraft, and
vacations.  All from monies taken from donations.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 01, 2019, 12:13:47 pm
Trump made a speech today bragging on FIMA and how
much he has worked to help those affected by disasters
like hurricanes. Ye there are still people in Florida and
Texas who are still waiting for promised help from
FIMA on damage from the last hurricanes. This doesn't
even count Puerto Rico, who have thousands of American
citizens with homes that only have tarps for roofs.

Trump continues to lie about the economy, and about
China. He hides the fact that farmers are going bankrupt
due to his policies and tariffs, not counting the small
businesses  that are failing as well. 

The average American will  soon see higher prices at Walmart
and other discount stores  due to Trumps economic war with
China. He claims we don't  need  more background checks for
guns. Even though people  can go to a gun show and buy one
if you have the money and a smile.

Trump alone isn't causing the division in our country.
People fear others who look or act different. It has been
known for centuries that people have this fear. This is
why people put scary faces on war masks, and war
ships.

Trump and others of the far right use fear to convince
others to join their cause. They claim people of color
are going to take over the country. They claim gays
will destroy the morality of our youth. The trouble is
it's easy to talk people into believing these things,
especially when the far right uses religion to support
their ideas.

The GOP has for years used gun ownership to get elected.
The NRA, which is mostly a puppet of the gun industry,
works hard to increase sales of guns, by stopping new
laws that might restrict their purchase.

Each time the democrats try to make laws that hold
people responsible for their firearms, the GOP, with the
NRA pushing them, cry the democrats are wanting to
take your guns. 

Trump and the GOP are saying gun violence is due to
people with mental illness. Then why did they pass a law
that allows people with mental illness to buy guns. They
did this right after Trump took office, and he signed it into
law. I wish the media would question GOP members more
on this bit of hypocrisy.

We have another shooting, this time from a man on the
run from law enforcement. 7 dead and 20 some injured. I
myself used to feel if the public was armed, they could
defend against mass shooters. The facts are almost none
of these shooters are stopped by the public.

I  think most of us would have a hard time actually shooting
another person. Also any hesitation would likely get you shot
by the shooter.

I am not against firearm ownership, but I fear we are being
forced to pass laws to restrict ownership of them. Perhaps
to license people as we do for driving a motor vehicle. To
make them responsible for their firearm and it's use. Even
to require them to have liability insurance. Though I hate
to make big insurance more money.

None of these things will stop all violence caused by firearms,
but it has been shown to reduce violence in states where they
place limits on them.

I know some people feel they need a military style semiautomatic 
like the AR15, but if the government collapses, or we are
invaded. Most people wouldn't have enough ammunition
to last long, then it would just be a high priced door stop. 
And if it broke, few could get one fixed.
 
I fear if we don't try to put responsible limits on firearms
and their ownership. One day if not already will have
people walking the streets ready to  shoot anyone who they
feel are acting suspicious. To shoot someone who insults
them. This wild west mentality has to be stopped or we
will end up with a dog eat dog society, where no one
will be safe. Already the police are likely to shoot first
and question later. Especially if they feel they are up
against a person of violent intentions.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 02, 2019, 12:06:06 pm


Well here it is another Labor Day. I just wish president Trump
would do more than brag and lie about how much he is doing
for the country. I know many of his supporters who don't live
at the boarder with Mexico think Trump is doing a good job
to stop immigration. Trump calls them anything but human,
most of them are just people wanting a better life for their
children. Not a free ride like Trump and the GOP wants to
claim.

Immigrants down through the history of our country have
been people looking to make a better life for themselves
and their children. This is how our country has become the
great nation it is. Otherwise if the immigrants had been
looking for a free ride we would be a third world
republic with nothing but thieves, and beggars in
the streets.

The far right plays on peoples fears, by calling immigrants
a threat, because they don't want diversity in this country.
They want it as a haven for white rich men. Then people of
color to be a working class they can exploit.

This desire will not  last, though they may hold power for a
time. They will loose in the end. All they will accomplish is to
cause pain and suffering for the masses, and many of those
who blindly support them.

Trump went to the FIMA offices in Washington DC for a photo
op yesterday. Trying to show how much he cares about those
in the path of the hurricane. If he really cares, how  come
people are still waiting for help after the last hurricane? Not
just Puerto Rico, but in Florida and Texas too.

The GOP and Trump continue to support people   who want
guns for protection. If guns were so good for protection
Texas should be the safest state in the nation. Because
they have the greatest number of firearms. Yet inn the
last two mass shootings, the public had to wait for the
police to stop the shooter. Using a firearm for protection
takes more than a finger to use it. It takes a lot of training,
and even then success isn't guarantee. Just look how many
police were shot trying to  stop the killer.

Untrained people will often harm themselves or family
instead of the attacker. Teachers who wish to carry
guns to protect kids in schools, are required to  have
at least 100 hours of training.

Those in the military go through a  lot of training,
they learn how to take care of the weapon, and
how to safely use it. Then only get ammunition
when they need it. Unlike walking into a gun
store to buy one like the public does, where they
may never had one before. Much less used one.

It's time we require training, and proper health to
have a firearm. Just as we do for the safe  operation
of motor vehicles. Both of which are dangerous in
the wrong hands.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 03, 2019, 01:19:02 pm
Trump spent most of the weekend playing golf and tweeting
about the hurricane and the news media. He tried to say this
hurricane was the first F5 that has hit the mainland in many
years. Yet we have had 3 since he has been in office. Just
more lies, or rants by a delusional old man who suffers from
memory loss.

The vice president stopped in Ireland where he spent time at a resort
 owned by Trump. He could have spent the night on the plane. Air
Force 2  which has very nice accommodations. By stopping there
he then had to  fly 150 miles to Dublin to speak to the prime
minister. It was Trump who wanted him to stay at his golf resort
so he could charge the U S government for the VP's stay.

This is just more of Trumps way of making money by being
president. Of course he claims he is loosing money to justify
the money grubbing actions he has played since taking office.
Over this time he has made millions from the government and
foreign dignitaries. All this from a man who claims to be a multi
billionaire. If he is so rich why charge the government anything?
Seems unpatriotic to me.
 
Moscow Mitch, the leader of the senate  still claims he won't
try to pass any bill the president doesn't want to sign. It seems
he has forgotten that what the president wants is irrelevant.
If Trump doesn't like a bill he can veto it. It's not the senates
leaders responsibility to protect Trump by vetoing bills for him.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 04, 2019, 12:32:37 pm
Trump is taking billions from the military to fund
his wall with Mexico. A wall that was supposed to
be paid for by Mexico. So the soldiers Trump claims
to support will have to live without funds needed
for repairs on things Trump wants to leave undone.

Will the economy hold with Trump placing tariffs
on China and others? Already the world economy
is slowing. Our economy may not slip into an actual
recession, but virtually stand still. If unemployment
starts to grow, Trump will have a hard time claiming
The economy is doing great. The stock market with
low interest rates will do good for a while, but not
for long. Especially if business profits begin to drop.

Trump is going to have a hard time being reelected
even with a good economy. Even with huge sums of
money to spend on his campaign. The public is likely
to turn against him. He only squeaked in last time, so
any loss of support will mean his end.

Now that the hurricane has left the Bahama Islands
rescue efforts are in process. So far the death toll is
at 7, but could be more as searches continue. It
it good we are helping these people. I wonder
why Trump isn't asking who will pay? Probably
due to the fact the Bahamas are the playground
of the rich. Unlike Puerto Rico who though citizens
of the U S, are looked down on by Trump.

It will take a long time to repair the damage. Many
of the smaller Islands are more like big sand bars
than solid ground. After 2 days of 200 mph winds
and heavy waves, some of them no longer exist.
It will likely take help from several countries to do
the job.

After public outrage spread  across the  nation
The Trump administration backs down from removing
kids who are receiving life saving treatment, that was
promised by our country. . Many could not believe
even Trump could  be so cruel as to do such a thing.

This back down from removing kids who need life
saving treatment, may only be temporary. As they
still want to review their need with a lot of
bureaucracy. Which could be used to quietly
removed them anyway.

This is more proof that even though Trump claims
to care about kids, is nothing but a filthy lie.
He is ready to remove anyone, no matter what
their need is. I would compare Trump to a slimy
worm, but that would be demeaning to the poor
creature. .

Trump continues trying to block all legal
proceedings against him. I wish the democrats
would get tough, and arrest these individuals
who refuse to follow the law. Then let Trump go
to court in their behalf. Instead of the other
way around. Even if Trump tried to pardon them
congress could keep arresting them, requiring
Trump to pardon them again and again.

It's likely the democrats want to look like they
are trying to work with Trump, but he just uses
anyone who doesn't stand up to him.

The democrats are far from being helpful to
people who are needy. They and the GOP do
little to help people work their way out of poverty.
Instead they setup laws that punish the poor each
time they try to help them selves. I hope there
will be a change as time goes on. I don't
expect the GOP to change, but if we can
get more progressive people in office
the people can have a more fruitful life.
One that isn't just for the richest Americans.

The NRA is bad mouthing Walmart, claiming
they are punishing law abiding citizens by
not selling firearms and the ammunition
people want. It isn't just Walmart, other
outlets of firearms are doing much the
same. They know the majority of the
public isn't in favor of assault weapons,

Perhaps a compromise where people
could own such weapons as long as
they met federal guidelines. Much
as they do for fully automatic weapons,
and other weapons of war.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 05, 2019, 12:50:07 pm
Trump has gone to court to get permission to cut funding
for schools, and day care for the children of our soldiers.
This doesn't count other needed repairs for military facilities.
All to get money for a wall that will never be built. If built it
would take a decade or more, and would need  constant
surveillance and repair.  All because Trump thinks it will help
him to be reelected.

Trump falsified a weather forecast. Claiming Alabama was
in the path of the hurricane. This is against the law, but the
Attorney General who is one of Trumps puppets, says the
president can do no wrong. 

It's possible Trump heard someone say if the hurricane hit
southern Florida it might pass into the gulf of Mexico. Trump
just can't admit he is ever wrong about anything. He could
say someone told him this, but no he has to be right, even
acting like a weather forecaster, which he isn't.  This nonsense
by Trump, caused the U S weather bureau to come out for the
first time ever against a president, to say Trump was wrong.

Also Trump claimed a GOP senator from North Carolina asked
for an emergency declaration. Only the Governor can ask
for such declaration, not a senator. Another lie involving
a emergency  declaration. Trump cares nothing for others
unless it serves himself.

Trump and his cronies lie continuously. It makes no
difference who it hurts. Even if cost lives, and money.
Some of them after selling out our country, go to work
for foreign companies that they helped to cost tax payers
money.

According to leaks from the White House. When Trump
claimed he got phone calls from China, asking to start
trade talks. Was a lie, because Trump wanted to boost
the stock market. This is against the law. Anyone trying to
manipulate the stock market is breaking federal laws.

Trump and the GOP are involved in corruption all through
the government. Even in states. It's all about power and
money. Yes democrats have been guilty of this in the past,
but nothing like the GOP.

When Trump leaves office he will likely be charged with
several crimes. I am sure he will hire a number of lawyers
trying to keep him out of jail.  I hope prosecutors stand
strong, because Trump will do all he can to drag out
court processes.

I really think Trump will leave the country on January
19, 2021 if he looses. Then let his  lawyers work to
stay any conviction.

The GOP wants to call the democrats socialists,
but the GOP isn't against socialism for big
business, only for the common man. Besides
the kind of  socialism the democrats are
proposing, is for the common good, Not to
end the free market or capitalism. Many countries
around the world have systems of government that
works very well with social programs, along with
a free market and capitalism. Yes the rich
wouldn't be quite as rich, but people can still
become very rich, even to be billionaires.

The problem is, money is like a drug, the more
you have the more you want. Only society can
put limits on the very rich, because most of
them never would. Yes many do give large
sums to charities, but in many cases they
looking for tax breaks, or hoping for a path
to heaven, fearing the flames of Hades. 

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 06, 2019, 12:53:54 pm
Trump claims he won't tell our enemies what he plans to do,
yet he tells our opponents in Syria, and Afghanistan that
we are planning to leave. So why would they agree to
do anything knowing we will soon be gone. Trump ran
saying he would get us out of these wars, but so far
we are still there. The people there will receive terrible
treatment once we leave,  especially women, but I
doubt if Trump really cares.

It appears Trump may support a minimum of gun legislation.
Minimal red flag laws, and possibly background checks to
include gun shows, but not one on one gun sales or trading.

Only time will tell. I am sure the NRA will be working to stop
any new controls on gun ownership. Trump got 30 million from
the NRA in 2016, so I am sure he wants more of their help this
time too.

I have a hunch many people don't know that our government
required registration of rifles and hand guns used for war
at the beginning of the country. They didn't want bands of
people out looking for revenge, much less turning against
the government. At our countries beginning there were
several groups who didn't necessarily approve of the
new federal government.

People could have their firearms for hunting and self
defense, but not for uncontrolled militias. So if a renegade 
group started trouble using registered guns they could
be more easily rounded up. Not a perfect solution, but
nothing ever is.

President Putin of Russia said he offered to  sell the U S one
of his nuclear powered cruise missiles. He didn't say wither
Trump wanted  to buy any or not. This is rather interesting
since one of their tests went sour, and has spread radiation
over part of Russia. These nuclear powered missiles aren't
the new idea Putin claims them to be. The U S looked at
using nuclear powered missiles in the 1960's, and decided
they were too dangerous to be useful. It appears they were
right, even if Putin doesn't want to admit it. 

Trump's plans to  take monies from the military is catching
a lot of flack. These monies were to  be used to deter Russia
from making any invasion of NATO countries. It also  stops
repairs to needed infrastructure for our soldiers. Since
this is a money grab by Trump, the courts will have to agree
with Trump, before any monies can be diverted to save
the wall Mexico is supposed to pay for. Not the military, he
claims he wanted to  make better. Just another lie that will
hurt jobs in 23 states.

Just more proof Trump will do anything he feels will
help him win another term. No matter who it hurts. Even
GOP congress men and women will likely loose their seats
due to his dumb ideas. He claims the wall is being built,
but all that's being done is repairs and replacing old
barriers. Parts that he will likely stand in front of for
campaign photos. Congress has given him billions
already for boarder protection, but little has been
spent. We can only wonder what Trump has done
with it. It's odd he comes up with billions to subsidize
farmers, so why not use some of that instead? They
seem to think his wall is a great idea, so they shouldn't
fuss about it.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 07, 2019, 01:01:33 pm
Some want to say Joe Biden is too old and possibly having memory
problems. Well look at Trump. He will be in his mid 70's if reelected.
Also he is constantly making mistakes about facts. So if anyone has
a mental issue it's Trump.

Let's wait and let the primaries decide who is running, then we can
decide who should get our vote.

It appears our president is continuing to use his powers to enrich himself
and his family. Turns out Trump is apparently requiring military flights to
land for refueling at an airport near his golf resort in Scotland. Then
making the crews spend the nights there. So he can charge tax payers
for their lodging. Also the fuel sales makes it possible for the small airport
to remain open. If closed his resort would suffer greatly. This is just one
location, who knows  how much Trump is manipulating government
spending for his own benefit. He might even be profiting from fuel sales
for all we know.

For some reason the military is trying to hide this activity. Either by Trump's
orders, or some weird devotion they think is owned to the president. The
Commander in Chief of the military. Congress oversight is looking into this,
but so far the military is stalling. This week the committee may have to
subpoena those responsible.

Apparently the weather bureau in Alabama was told to change it's statement
that the hurricane wasn't a threat to Alabama, by the federal weather
service. So it would support Trump's lies. So now when you get a weather
forecast, it will be according to Trump, and not what it really is. Of course if
you really get hit by a hurricane, Trump will blame the weather bureau instead.

It seems almost all government workers, and the GOP are scared to oppose
Trump, no matter what his lies represent. The GOP used to claim they were
for truth, justest,  and the American way, but that is gone. The GOP is no
longer republicans, but  Trumpians.  A cultist party of Trump. I sometimes
feel they would walk off a  cliff if their Supreme master Trump, commanded
them to do so. 

If he gets another 4 years, I think they will be on their knees to  him, with
demands that he is made president permanently. They   don't question what
he does. When Trump said don't believe anyone but me. They might as well
have said "Yes Master". Because that's what they do.

Trump calls the news media the enemy of the people. In reality it's the enemy
of Trump, and his lies. I am not saying the media is always fully truthful, but
without them Trump and his cronies would be stealing everything, including
the kitchen sink if it had some value.

If the democrats do take power in 2020, they must take powers from the
office of the president. To keep a future president from trying to follow
Trump's example.  Also if the democrats can take two thirds of the states,
we should have a constitutional convention. To get rid of corruption by a
those wanting to take overwhelming power. To get rid of gerrymandering,
to get rid of political PAC's. Groups run by the super rich trying to take
political control of the country. To expand the supreme court to 12, and
if a justice shows to be partisan, remove them.  Above all set term limits
on all elected officials. When people make a career out of law making it
leads to  corruption. Last if not lease get rid of the electoral process, this
antiquated system that was designed to prevent uneducated people from
electing a president should be done away with.

Some would  say all this is a pipe dream, but all it takes is people taking
enough interest in our country to make it better for us all,and not just for
the riches of us. Get out and vote, not just for yourself, but for the
good of the country. Vote to get rid of corrupt politicians. They are just
criminals who should be in prison  instead of congress. They will try to
fool you, but look at their record not their words.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 08, 2019, 12:49:55 pm
It's too bad those in the GOP don't have the backbone to stand
up to Trump. My hats off to those in the British parliament who are
standing up to a prime minister who is a Trump wannabe.

Trump wants to, or already has sat down with the very people
who were responsible for the 911 attack on New York. If Obama
had  done this, the GOP would have went nuts.  Or if any democrat,
as far as that goes. Our policy is to never talk to terrorists. So
where is the GOP when our president deals with murderers.

Trump seems to think he can do foreign policy by twitter. This
will never work, because people can't publicly agree to terms
their supporters don't agree with, or understand. Agreements
with foreign countries have to be done behind closed doors. Or
nothing will be done, unless one side totally capitulates.
Something no serious leader would ever do.

Trump seems  to think he can make deals with his bullying,
and if that doesn't work he kisses up to them. Just like his
claims  he and the North Korean leader are in love.  Rather
disgusting, considering what that leader does to his people.

If Trump is in love, does that mean Trump is okay with north
Korea continuing to  build H bombs? Or fire off short range
missiles? Or even to launch a submarine that can fire nuclear
tipped missiles? It would seem so, as when asked, Trump
doesn't seem to care.

Trump wants to claim that he has improved relations
with North Korea. When in fact it is just the opposite.
The North Korean leader wants the U S out of south
Korea, and nothing Trump has done is changing him.

We should leave Afghanistan, but if we leave it to a government
who will capitulate to terrorist control, we should never have
went in the first place. Because it will become a bastion for
terrorist groups who will treat their populations the save
way ISIS did to Iraq. In fact ISIS is already there.

I think these terrorist groups use Islam trying to justify their
desire to treat others any way they like. Especially women. While
it is true people are easier to rule using religion, but for the
abuse of women, it's nothing but an excuse.

Trump and the GOP are trying to prevent anyone from running
against him in a primary. So what are they afraid of? Or is it
Trump that  fears or hates any opposition to his reelection,
especially from  members  of the GOP.

The one thing Trump hates is having to debate his policies or lack
of, with any serious debater. This is why he never has town hall
style meetings. He doesn't want to answer to the public. He only
wants to preach to them.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 09, 2019, 01:00:01 pm
A lot of people in the Bahamas say they would like to
come to the U S as they have nothing left. I wonder if
Trump will welcome them, or not? Perhaps those who
have rich friends hear and have white skin, but I doubt
he will otherwise. At least for long.

Well summer vacation for congress is over. One of several
they have each year. Will the democrats stop pussyfooting
around and go after Trump and his cronies, or not? They
got a majority in the house of representatives so they could.
Yes Moscow Mitch is still trying to protect Trump, but GOP
senators will have to explain why they did so little, when
they run in 2020, even Moscow Mitch.

It's time we hold our law makers accountable. The reason
Trump can get by with his criminal activities is because
congress doesn't want to do the hard jobs. They want
to hand it off to the president, or the courts. Otherwise
Trump couldn't do much other than play golf, and tweet
tweet tweet, in the White House.

Here is an update on Trumps meeting with the supporters of
terrorists in Afghanistan. Turns out he cancelled the meeting
scheduled for Camp David. Claiming it was cancelled due to
an soldier being killed. If this was the  reason, why have a
meeting in the first place? They  have been killing our people
for years. I think Trump knew the meeting plan was going
bad, and he wanted a way to save face. We know Trump
never admits  failure, so he blames others.

It would be great if a deal can be struck to get all the
troops out of the middle east. Trump isn't smart enough
to do it. Much better men have failed. We either have
to just walk away, or spend years trying to do a deal
that isn't going to  make either side happy.

Trump invited police officers to the White House. Officers
who risked their lives to stop very dangerous killers. Personally
they should  have refused Trump request as  it is nothing but
a political show, a show where Trump is trying to prove he cares.
It is sad  such brave honorable people have to  accept medals
of honor from a man who has no honor at all. I think I would
have told Trump to just mail the medal to me.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 11, 2019, 12:33:16 pm
It is 911 once more as  the U S A remembers the attack
on our country. An attack, much like Pearl Harbor will
live in memorial.

Today Trump, our shameless president made a long winded speech,
where he lied about how much he cares for those who suffered, and
due to diseases from the attempted rescue, and clean up. While standing
at the memorial of the attack there in New York, Trump lied about
how much he tried  to help after the attack. The first responders know
who was  there, and Trump wasn't.

Trump bragged  about the bill he signed, giving permanent aid to  those
affected, when he had nothing to do with it. In fact the first responders   
themselves had to fight to get congress to even consider the bill. Over
the years they had to beg for help and for the renewal of a bill the GOP
begrudgingly  passed, then only for a few years. Finally this time it was
made good for the lifetimes of those affected. Not pushed by the GOP, 
until they realized it would cost them too many votes to oppose.

Though many of those responsible have been killed or punished,
we after 18 years are still trying to finish our response to this
attack.

Presidents come and go, but the war goes on. Neither party
wanting to do what it takes to end the war. I really don't think
we are going to end it by telling the bad guys we are going
to leave even if they don't make a deal. They have to 
think they themselves will be destroyed. But when a country
like Pakistan gives them aid and shelter, it will be an endless
war. I am sure the leaders of Pakistan fear if they
don't, they too will suffer reprisals. Unless we can
get cooperation from surrounding countries, I  fear
we may have to walk away in the end.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 12, 2019, 01:04:12 pm
Another  debate by the democrat candidates is
on for tonight if I am not mistaken. This time
there will only be one, with 10 on stage. Still
too many, but will likely diminish by the time
the first primary is held.

Trump is still trying to blame the news media
on his weird claim that Alabama was in the path
of a hurricane. For days Trump couldn't let it go.
He just has to be seen as right about everything,
no  matter who he hurts. He doesn't seem to
understand it's his own fault these stories 
last for days.

Trump is being true to form in that he has
decided to not let refuges from the Bahamas
to stay in the U S, till they can return to their
island home. Even to be allowed a  short stay,
they have to get permission at the U S embassy
in the Bahama's first. Though  proper, with
thousands needing relief many  could die while
waiting for a visa. Trump is using  his tired old
excuse that he is protecting  Americans  from
criminals. I suppose there would be some,
but I think Americans have more to fear from
home grown right wing terrorists than anyone
else.

The GOP leadership is closing primaries across
the country, trying to  prevent any other
GOP member from running against Trump. They
are even hiding data that shows how vulnerable
Trump is in these states. I imagine Trump is
behind this, because he fears having fellow
republicans talking against him, that might
help turn people toward a democrat.

There was a hearing yesterday about the removal
of seriously ill people who were invited  to this
country for life saving treatment. The GOP
members did their best to say it is all a hoax.
Even though two of these people were at the
hearing. One of which had trouble speaking
due to his lung condition.

The shameless GOP puppets of Trump invited
a commentator from Fox News who sat next to
these sick young people and ignored them, 
while claiming they didn't exist.

Just how far will GOP members go to protect
Trump. A man who has no shame. They should
be ashamed to show their face in public,
much less run for reelection.

Trump stands at his rally's and tells filthy lies,
or say anything to get cheers from the crowd.
The truth is not in him, and it appears those
GOP members who fear Trump will lie as
well.

I used to be a republican, but no more, I
will never vote for anyone who associates
with the leaders of his disgusting party of
Trump. Because it has nothing to do with
making this country great, nay it drags us
down in shame. while Trump's only interest is
making all the money he can, and the GOP
is only interested inn making billionaires
richer.

Trump and Moscow Mitch are continuing to
put right wing judges on federal courts. And
yesterday a hearing was held about one who has
a history of opposing immigration, because he
believes this country should only be white, and
Christian. Even the GOP senators were asking
this disgusting person hard questions. So we
can hope he fails this test. Other wise we
could have a hard right judge just below
the supreme court.

Yes many people agree with Trump and his
treatment of immigrants, but they are in a
minority. Many wish to return to what they
think is the good old days. Days when people
of color knew their place in society. When Gays
where hiding in closets. and Latinos were called
wet backs, and women had to depend on men.

Though this may look inviting to many people,
it will lead this country to ruin. We have to accept
people for who they are. As long as they do no
harm we should accept them. Forcing them to be
something they are not will lead to disruption of
our society. Already our prisons are filled with
people who should be working, not a burden
on society. Forcing people to obey laws against
their natural needs will just increase the prison
population, which is already too large. and
dis proportionally  with minorities.

Prisons in this country are privately run, this is
nothing but a way to make bad people rich.
People who care little for anything but the dollar.
So those in prisons are treated with little respect.
Just with dollar signs over their heads. Jail has little
to do with reforming those who turned to  crime.
Instead we should be treating these people with
understanding. Only those who pose a danger
to society should be imprisoned. The rest should
be helped by society to be productive citizens.
For what it costs to  keep someone in prison
they could be sent to college.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 13, 2019, 01:33:57 pm
The debate went from health care to gun controls. Also on immigrants.
Personally I think they were fussing to much with each other. The
democrats must work to  protect health care, and  lower drug costs.

The GOP only want to turn everything over to big business, and
big business just wants to make all the money they can. NO
matter  who it hurts. Big business doesn't want free enterprise
as they lobby congress to get rid of  small business competition.
Competition that would lower profits they want  to increase.
Because higher profits increases the value of their stock, and
higher stock value makes millions for the owners.

The law suits against Trump over his making money from foreign
governments took a step forward yesterday. An appeals court
reversed a decision against Trump, by business owners who said
they lost business due to Trump using the office of president to
take their customers away. Since the constitution doesn't allow a
president to  make money from foreign governments, I would think
it would be an easy win for the business owners. But Trump has
put a bunch of lawyers on the case trying to win,  because he
doesn't care if the business owners loose money or not.  As in the
past, Trump uses his money to drag cases out till his  opponents 
either go broke or give up.

As I figured Trump told an audience the democrats will take your
guns. This is a tired old claim by the GOP for years. They use the
second amendment to  buy votes. The GOP leadership or Trump
don't care how many people die due to oversized magazines and
assault rifles.  Just as long as they can hold power. 

One of the  democrat candidates said we may need to take assault
rifles away from people. So Trump makes out like it's all of the guns.
Personally I think it should be more about large magazines than guns.
Because there are a lot of firearms that use magazines.

I find it hard to understand why any person of color would
support Trump, much less the GOP.  The GOP and Trump
treats them like so much trash,  especially Trump. Look at
immigrants.  Trump and the GOP want to keep all immigrants
of  color out of the country. Especially Latinos.

Trump was crying that the democrats and the news media were
the cause of him not fulfilling his campaign promises. If Trump
would Keep his big mouth shut, tell the truth, instead of trying
to cover up his ignorance,  stay off the telephone, get rid of his
twitter account, TV, and stop   worrying about what the media
and others think about him. He  would have plenty of  time to
do  the work he promised he  would do.

It's the above acts that Trump is unable to change, that causes
all of his troubles. Watching TV to learn facts is never a good idea.
the media and talking heads often make mistakes, and some
twist the truth to fit what they want, or just lie. No president
should use television news reports to learn anything. Trump
won't listen, to people who really know the facts, especially
if the facts don't agree with what he wants to believe.

Trump has spent his whole life learning how to lie, apparently
because he thinks  it's the only way to succeed. Since this
Con Artist way of thinking never works well, Trump is failing
to do the job he lied saying he wanted to do. Because he really
didn't think he would ever win, so he is just using the job as
president to fill his pockets with money, and to be the big shot
he always wanted to be.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 14, 2019, 01:35:51 pm
The news media loves controversy. If it doesn't show up they work
to create it where little exists.  The last debate was controversial, but
it wasn't as bad as the media wants to  say. Even though it's
early yet, some of the candidates feel they must make a lot
of noise, or be lost in the pack.

Trumps hired fixer our Attorney general, is up to his dirty tricks again.
He is refusing to hand over grand jury information requested by the
house judicial committee. Information pursuant to an impeachment
investigation. Fixer Barr and Trump want the democrats to declare
they will send article's of impeachment to the senate. Because Trump
feels when the GOP controlled senate refuses to remove him, he can
go to his supporters and say "I was declared innocent".

Trump and the GOP think this will cause the democrats to loose
elections across the country, and perhaps even the White house. That
is their hope anyway. It is sad that the GOP cares so little for the majority
of the people, they are willing to  do anything to keep power. To be fair
they apparently feel they are only wishing to  save our country from
people who wish to bankrupt the country with socialism. While it is true
overzealous social programs could be damaging to the economy, So far
all I have seen from the democrats is to ask every citizen to pay their
fair share. Including the super rich, people who hide much of their
money from the IRS directly, or by using rules made by the GOP to
save them from taxes they should pay otherwise.

Money from honest taxation would be more than enough to cover the
social programs proposed by the candidates. With enough left to reduce
the national debt. A debt that Trump has increased by 2 Trillion dollars.
So I wonder why his supporters aren't giving him grief for his promise to
reduce the national debt instead of increasing it.

This back and forth control by each party, is more harmful than
social programs. The GOP puts us in debt with big tax cuts, then
the democrats have to raise taxes to lower deficits. The GOP wants 
to blame social programs for deficits, and when regaining power with
promises of tax cuts, do it all over again with more tax cuts.

They want to  claim the tax cuts will create  jobs, and money saved
with same cuts will  be passed along to workers in pay raises. This
idea of trickle down economics was started during the Reagan
administration. This was touted as to help the middle class, but
in reality it was designed to make rich people richer. Up to that
time taxes though not that helpful to  the rich, didn't hurt them
with all the tax shelters built into the tax system, many rich people
paid little if any tax. Prior to the Reagan years and trickle down
economics, the middle class was growing, since then it has been
staying the same, if not smaller. The rich however, are getting
richer, and over the years have gone from multi millionaires to
billionaires. A sum so vast, most people would have a hard
time spending it all. Even at a couple million dollars a month.

If the people don't stand up to this policy of greed our country will
go down. The rich will suffer little while everyone else will loose most
if not everything. Countries like China could move in with the demand
of payment. They have bought trillions of dollars in U S bonds to pay
for the illicit policies of our politicians, mostly by the GOP. Already much
of what we use is made in China or the far east. Much of the medicines we
use are made in China, or their ingredients. If we don't change this they
would only need to  stop sending us this medicine and millions would
suffer and die before it could be replaced.

Currently the public sits back depending on our politicians to take
care of things that keep us alive. If they screw it up, we are in trouble.
This is the big reason Trump needs to go. He has no interest in anything
but himself, and the GOP just follows him like a  puppy dog looking
for a bone, and a pat on the head.

Trump and the GOP cry the democrats are socialists. Yet the GOP
hands out billions in subsidies to big business. Subsidies is the
same thing as socialism. Just by a different name. They don't
care if someone starves, or a kid dies from an illness, just as
long as their big business allies are fine.

I don't think all GOP members feel this way, Many have no
plans to  run for reelection in 2020. Apparently not wanting to
run with the dirty policies of Trump following them. Much less
having to defend him.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 15, 2019, 12:58:08 pm
Trump and his attorney general are blocking all attempts to get
information about himself, and his actions. Trump hired Barr
to do what his previous attorney general would not do. To be
his lawyer and personal prosecutor. Barr like all of Trumps
picks stay loyal to him, or he will remove them to fine someone
who will be loyal to him and not the laws of the country.

Any person who is elected for president, must stand up for the
constitution and the laws we all must obey. If they don't the
constitution requires impeachment, because a person while
in office is immune to prosecution. So impeachment is the only
way to remove a criminal from the office of president.

Trump puts our intelligence community at risk every time he
talks to countries that wish our demise. Countries like Russia,
and China. These countries will do anything it takes to  gain
power, economic or militarily. Trump has show he has no control
over his ego, virtually a man who thinks he should be king of
the world. History has shown, those who think of themselves
smarter than anyone else, lack the intelligence to know
otherwise. A person like this is a danger to themselves
and those who follow them.

The democrats in congress need to  get tough with Trump
or he could end up with another term in office. Trump
will do anything to win. The democrats should go after people
who fail to show up to testify. Not just with a subpoena, but
with handcuffs. Go to  court after if need be, But these
people need to find out Trump may not be able to, or even
want to protect them. I think the public would support this
type of action by the democrats. They need not worry about
those who support Trump. They won't support the democrats
anyway.

The last judge Trump put on the supreme court has more
accusations of sexual misconduct, among other transgressions
where he lied to the senate.  Even though this discussing
person should be impeached, I doubt the GOP will ever vote
to remove him. They want a conservative  majority on the
supreme court, and they don't care if one of the justices
should be in jail instead. This man is only there because
Trump wanted him there as a fixer, and should be removed.

It is sad how many people support Trump and his cruelty. He
reaches out to those who feel the rest of the world is out to 
get us. Seemingly to know it's they  who will agree with him.
Not for the the good of the country,  but for himself. We all have
our darker side, but most do not allow  it to control us. Not
like those who kill others in the name of  Trump, and his
policies. I  think most of those who support  Trump are
misguided. Just like those who don't understand  the needs
of LGBTQ. They listen to those who use religion, and fake
facts to  gain power and money. People who think their needs
should be above all others. No matter who it hurts.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 16, 2019, 01:11:20 pm
Though the GOP and Trump continue to claim
humanity isn't causing climate change. Northern
lands are loosing more ice and snow. The ocean
over the north pole is becoming more ice free
as well. And soon will have countries like Russia
making territorial claims on rights to search for
resources there. The U S doesn't have the same
capability as Russia does in the Arctic, so conflicts
could arrive.

During his campaign Trump claimed he would
work to increase factory jobs. So with businesses
moving jobs to Mexico, and GM closing factories.
Will Trump  put pressure on GM management to
turn around? Or was it just campaign rhetoric. 
I think Trump  will claim it was his work if GM
backs off, even if it was due to Union pressure
instead.

Unions should not look to the GOP, because Trump
and the GOP are historically against Unions. If you
think not, just look at how the GOP works to pass
right to work laws across the country.

Trump told the justice department they need to
protect justest Brett Kavanaugh. We should be
asking why would Trump tell the justice department
to protect anyone? Could it be because this man 
promised Trump he would be loyal by not making
any judgments that would go against him? Some
might feel no justice would make such a promise,
but this man has a reported history of not being
honest,  and is accused of being a drunken womanizer.
I think he knew he would never be nominated again
with his personal history, and this was his only
chance.

Why did Trump work so hard to get this man on
the supreme court? Why did he limit the investigation
of Kavanaugh during his senate hearing? There was
no rush. The senate waited over a year to replace
a justice a short time ago. Yet Moscow Mitch
said we had to be quick this time. I think it
was because our corrupt leader of the senate
knew  this man would not be approved unless
they did it quickly, and Moscow Mitch wanted to 
please Trump no matter what.

So now the GOP will have to defend a man who
never should have been approved for the supreme
court, and they  know it. This corruption of senate
proceedings should cost the GOP dearly, When
they tried to  get rid of the ACA they used dirty
tricks, and did the same when they passed a Tax
cut designed to benefit their  rich supporters. A tax
cut that is putting the U S A deeper in debt to the
tune of Trillions of dollars. Even though the GOP
and Trump claimed it would not.

Corruption in Washington DC is nothing new. People
from both the democrats and republicans are guilty of it.
One of the big ones was a democrat speaker of the
house. Corruption should be rooted out when ever it's
found. Because it hurts not only the rule of law, it costs
the respect of voters. And when voters feel their votes
don't really count, they stay home.

It seems odd to me that if the U S is exporting oil, why
would we have to pay more just because a foreign oil
provider production was cut by an attack? Yes I know
the oil and gas industry feels they should be able to
charge world oil prices even at home, but to me that
is just money grubbing. It gets back to the old pricing
according to value, and not the cost, which is just
plain old greed in my opinion.

If the price of oil rises very much, it will be a drag
on the world economy. An economy that is already
under strain due to  Trumps tariffs. This could easily
drag the U S economy down as well. So you can be
sure Trump and the GOP are getting nervous. Our
strategic reserves can prevent shortages, but not
price increases to the driving public, and higher
fuel prices for trucks will end up with higher
prices for food and other products as well.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 17, 2019, 01:04:22 pm
The Trump administration is apparently blocking
a whistle blower in two cases. One about how the
IRS is mishandling a audit of Trumps taxes.
Another is about something to do with intelligence
handling by the white house, and possibly the
president.

The house of representatives is supposed to
get this kind of information, but it appears
Trump is blocking it via the justice department.

Trump may have kept his business activities
under wraps, but even though he wants to do
the same as president. It's against the law. It's
the duty of congress to review the actions of
the president. The GOP doesn't care enough to
do the job, but the democrats were elected
to see that Trump obeys the law. So far
Trump has worked harder at hiding his dirty
work than doing the job he was elected to do.

Reports are that Trump has told Saudi Arabia
they only need to let our military know what
they need attacked, relevant to  Iran, and he
will order the military to do it.

Apparently Trump is doing this to repay them
for all the money they have given him and his
family. If so Trump should be impeached and
thrown in prison, including family if they
were involved.

Trump treats Saudi Arabia with kid gloves, and
bows to their demands. of the 5 vetoes he has
made since being in office, 4 of them were to
protect Saudi Arabia. Now in the past
presidents have worked to help the Saudi's,
but  not to the degree Trump has. Also we are no
longer dependent on them for oil. In fact we
produce more than they do.

Trump claims he has no desire to go to war with
Iran, but with Trump every word should be
looked at as a possible lie.  If Trump
feels it would be to  his benefit, I think he
would send our soldiers against Iran with
no concern for them at all.

Trump has brought this crisis with Iran on  himself.
 He just had to pull out of the agreement Obama
made with Iran, because he feels he has to undo
everything Obama did. So now he has put sanctions
on Iran to the point they are hitting back. If Trump
had been smart he would have continued to improve
our relations with Iran, but no, he lets Saudi Arabia
tell him how to respond instead.

Trump was asked if he supported the auto workers
strike. But after a lot of talk he never said
that he did. He even claimed the UAW supported
him when there is evidence they voted for Clinton.
Trump just has to lie, and lie again and again.
Apparently afraid of the truth.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 18, 2019, 12:40:35 pm
Trump and the GOP continue trying to remove regulations designed
to protect our environment. Caring not to protect our geological and
biological  heritage over big business profits. If this continues we will
loose natural forests, lakes, wildlife, and much of what we enjoy. Not
only that, but with the loss of clean air and water, people will start to
die from the pollution.

If we don't work to stop the wishes of big business to use up our natural
resources soon it will be too late. We should be working for new ways
to reuse what we have, not throw it away.

Senator Sanders has dropped to  third place (15) in the polls behind
Senator Warren (25). Joe Biden remains in the  lead 6 points ahead
at (31).  All the rest of the candidates  are far behind in single digits.

Senator Warren is getting huge crowds at her rally's. Over 20,000
in New York last Monday night. This is likely getting Trumps attention,
and will likely be calling her names again.

Suddenly Trump the slum lord, claims he cares about the homeless
in our cities. Especially California. Well I think we can be sure this
new caring attitude of our president will only last till he is reelected.
Unless the far right tells him to do otherwise, then it won't last long
at all.

What the homeless need is affordable housing, and jobs that pay
enough for them. It's likely if Trump does anything he will support
developers who will build housing that will cost a lot more than
the homeless can ever afford. Then Trump will point to developments
claiming how much he his helping.

Trump is putting more sanctions on Iran, though there really isn't much
left to put them on. Iran is warning Trump that any military attack will
get a big counter attack from them. One that is aimed to hurt the U S.

The democrats are pushing to get the senate to  vote on one of the bills
aimed to improve background checks for firearm purchases. Our infamous
senate leader Moscow Mitch continues to let Trump tell him when to vote
on bills, and when not to. Seems the GOP has forgot the senate is an
independent body, and not under the thumb of Trump. If a president
doesn't like a bill, he can veto it himself. It's not the job of the GOP
senate leader to do it for him.

Trump continues to hide and cover up his activities. Doing all he
can to keep the public and democrats in the dark. The public needs
to know what Trump is really doing, and not what he wants them to
know.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 19, 2019, 01:00:38 pm
Trump is planning to be at the United Nations, where he
wants to build a coalitions of nations against Iran. I have
a hunch this will be hard to do, as the Iran crisis is a problem
Trump created in the first place.

Trump continues to hide his tax returns. We can only wonder
what he is trying to hide. It gives to speculation that is must
be something damaging, or he wouldn't be working so hard
to hide them. Of course it could just be paranoia, another
one of Trumps mental issues. I really doubt he would loose
votes from his supporters, even it they showed him paying
no tax at all. Something he called smart during one of his
debates with H Clinton. 

It seems the whistle blower which is an intelligence official
found out Trump made a promise to a foreign leader. Now a
president can do this, but in this case it apparently was
something harmful to the country. Or he wouldn't have
put his career at risk to speak out. Of course as usual
Trump and his cronies are trying to  cover this up, Trump
even called it presidential harassment.

As we know Trump and the GOP have little respect for
the environment. So Trump wants to prevent California
from having higher pollution standards for cars and
Trucks than the rest of the country. I imagine most of
the younger generation didn't see all the smog California
cities had to deal with during the 1960's and 70's. But if
Trump has his way they may get to  see it there in
the future.

I would be surprised if the GOP goes along with this, because
the GOP is always claiming they are for states rights, and this
is certainly stepping hard on them. California isn't the only
state that sets standards for emissions. 15 other states do
as well. I think this is mostly Trump going after California
because they generally don't support him.

As I figured, while in California Trump made a point to  visit
the boarder with Mexico, so he could point to a wall he claims
was his own. Though the wall he pointed to was built to replace
existing barriers. He even scratched his name on it.  Trump
never misses a chance to show off.

It's likely in a few years automation is going to  drive a lot of
people out of work. So proposals for a minimum income of
$1000.00 a month for American adults is being proposed
by one of the presidential candidates.

I am sure this will be a plan, hard to ever become law. The
GOP would likely fight it even harder than they did against
Obama Care or social security. Both of which they want to
get rid of.

The rich always wants to point to poor people as being
lazy bums. So they would never want any tax they might pay
to be used this way. As a business man, I think this would be
a fine idea. The more money there is that people can spend,
the better it is for local economies. In reality a thousand a
month isn't a lot of money, but to a person just getting by it
can be a big help, and in many cases it could keep people from
being homeless.

Trump is now claiming he wants to keep people from being
homeless. Rather odd for a man who used to  throw poor people out
of their homes. So he could make millions building condos. I
imagine Trump will be making many promises as his reelection
approaches. Then as last time they will be forgotten if reelected.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 20, 2019, 12:42:12 pm
Trump is calling the whistle blower a very partisan person. Yet
he wants to keep that person from telling the intelligence
committee what he knows. If Trump is innocent of any wrong
doing, why is he trying so hard to cover it up?

For some reason Trump isn't allowing the release of the
military aid voted for by congress to Ukraine. There is a good
possibility Trump is doing this to get the leader of Ukraine to
start an investigation about Joe Biden's son. The subject of
what the whistle blower said is about a promise Trump made
to Ukraine, so it seems Trump wants to hide an apparent
attempt to get Ukraine to  create a false story that would
hurt Joe Biden's chances to be elected president over Trump.
If true this would be a criminal act by Trump to  manipulate
the 2020 election. Much as he did in 2016 with  Russia's help.

Speaking of Russia, it's possible Trump has been refusing to
send the military aid to Ukraine hoping to please Putin. We know
Trump has pulled money from the military that was meant to
help eastern Europe defend against any invasion by Russia.
It's no secret that Putin wants to recreate the Union of states
Russia had with the Soviet Union. It's likely Trump hopes
Putin will help him get reelected, if he helps Putin.

The GOP has been trying to make a big deal about Joe Biden's
connection to Ukraine for years. Apparently because they think
he might want to run for president. Just  as they did against
H Clinton. Isn't it interesting they ignore Trump's acts which
are much worse than anything Biden or Clinton ever did.

It's amazing how  dumb Trump thinks the public is. He talks
about how much the military has improved since he became
president. It takes several years to build, and improve
ships, missiles, and equipment. Not counting defense against
any opponent. Trump bragged about a new aircraft carrier, that
 will be the biggest ship in the  world. Well it could be the
biggest ship  to ever sink if a nuclear weapon was to hit it, or
even come  close to it. We should have more smaller ships, not
one or two really big ones. Big ships used to be an advantage,
but not now.

Trump was in true form this morning with his news conference.
Telling one lie after another. He claims the news media lies all
the time, but Trump continuously try's to mislead the public with
his tweets, because the media won't pass along his lies. Instead
they tell the facts, something Trump fails at, and never wants to do.
Because the facts would show him to be the self serving con artist
he is. 

Another of his lies was about China. Claiming the U S is getting billions
of dollars from them due to the tariffs. When in fact the money is coming
from the pockets of Americans who have to pay more because of the
Trump's tariffs. Now it is true the tariffs are having an effect on China,
but it's putting small farmers out of business, along with higher prices
for us all.

Trump  tried to claim there is unreported numbers that say the economy
is doing very well. Somehow I  really doubt this. Growth is slowing, no
matter how much Trump wants to  say otherwise.  Stock market
numbers do little for the average American.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 21, 2019, 12:43:45 pm
If the people of this country want clean air and water, and
if they want pristine places protected from big business
greed. They must vote to remove Trump and the GOP from
power in 2020. Yes even the democrats are far from perfect,
and take money from big business lobbyists, still, it's a first
step in taking back our country from the rich, and big
corporations.

Trump and the GOP still wish to deny global warming, to
protect profits of big corporations. Only removing them from
power will put a stop to this careless act of greed, and the
hold of power  over the future of the country and world.

Yes people who work in the industries of energy will have to
change jobs, because, coal, gas, and oil is putting the future
generations to come at risk. Already events of weather extremes
are occurring around the world. It will likely take generations to
undo the damage that the industrial revolution caused over the
last 150 years. If we  don't start now many of those who come
after us will suffer a shorter life, with a miserable existence.

Big oil has convinced Trump to remove the rights of states
to set their own emission standards. A first step to stop the
move toward electric cars and trucks. Think not? Trump is
pressuring automotive manufactures to turn back  to
higher fuel consumption. Even with threats to use legal
means if they don't comply.

I am starting to believe Trump can do or say anything
he wants with impunity. The democrats seem to also
fear the supporters of Trump. We are at the mercy of
a dictator. Without the help of the GOP, only the voters
can remove him. Even if Trump  looses the election, It
will have to be a big loss, or he will try to invalidate the
results. And with this conservative supreme court he
and the GOP just might manage it.

It's time the democrats get a backbone, and use all the
power they have. No matter how much the GOP and Trump
complain about it. Unless they do, the GOP and Trump will
turn this country into an autocracy.

I am sure many people think to them selves that everything
will work out in the end. I fear though, once bad people have
the power, they won't let it go, and we will be under their
thumb. This is why we had a revolutionary war. People of power
stepped a bit too hard on peoples necks and they rebelled.
I just hope for the sake of future Americans all will turn out
well. Perhaps Trump will go just far enough to loose the support
of the GOP, but I have my doubts.

The way kings stay in power is because enough people of a
country support them, and their reign. I don't think  even the
GOP voters would support a all powerful  dictator unless he
followed their wishes. This is why Trump watches the news,
and the polls. It's also why he has continued his rally's. Trying
to hold on to his support. He apparently believes if enough of
the  members of his minority party gets out and votes, he can
win over the democrats.

Believe it or not, the future of our country will depend on a win
by the democrats over Trump. If Trump and the GOP hold power
our environment will suffer, along with the health of our children
and generations to come.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 22, 2019, 12:46:07 pm
Several years ago I felt climate change wasn't a big deal, but with
glaciers melting around the world, and ice shelf's the size of
Rode island breaking off from Green land and Antarctica,  due
to ocean warming, it's no longer a wait to see prediction.
It's here !!!

Denial by Trump and the GOP is proof they will lie to protect their
corporate supporters. Supporters who shell out millions to help
Trump and the GOP stay in power.  They know it's oil, gas, and
coal that is the basic cause of temperature rising, but they are
out to make all the money they can before the people finally
shut them down.

Trumps protection of Saudi Arabia, and telling manufactures
to make cars and trucks use more fuel is all about helping the
oil industry. Also Trumps willingness to help the Saudi's against
Iran is both about oil, and the military industrial complex. Both
who make literally Trillions of dollars selling oil and building
weapons of war.  Not just for the U S, but to sell to nations
around the world.

The people of Iran want a more modern country like the west,
but the Saudi's are afraid this movement will change their
government. An autocracy where the king, or prince runs the
country by decrees. The leaders of Saudi Arabia are rich beyond
belief, and will do anything to  stay in power. So they offer Trump
millions to help them. With Trump money is his GOD, and he will
follow it anywhere. Even to start a war with Iran instead of working
for peace.

The far right wants power at any cost. This plan uses corporate
America to buy elections. They only support candidates who work
to help the richest Americans gain power.  Candidates who won't
play the game are attacked with advertising led by the far right.
The far right uses religion to  convince large numbers of people
to vote and support the GOP. It will take hard work to turn this
around, because the far right is the devil working to destroy
democracy here, and around the world.  In the end those
who have little money will serve the rich. Just as they do
in Russia, China, and other autocracies.

This is why the far right is working hard to keep Trump in
power, a fool they can manipulate to do their bidding. I think
Trump feels this business with Biden's son working in Ukraine
is Biden's Achilles heel, and likely wants to use it like he did
using H Clinton's email to win.

Trump calling someone else corrupt,  a man who is the most
corrupt president we ever had would be laughable if it wasn't
so serious. Now of course the GOP is in step with their king,
and are calling for an investigation of Biden.  This is just politics
as the matter was settled years ago. However just like when they
investigated H Clinton time and time again, they are wanting  to
to the same with Biden. They hope if Biden is dominated people
will forget about how bad Trump has been, and feel Trumps no
worse than anyone else.

The democrats should just laugh at the GOP members and
Trump. After all when the GOP controlled the house they
said we are in power, so live with  it.  It's time the democrats
stop worrying and do what they need to do. Impeach Trump
and let the GOP hope they won't loose their office by protecting
Trump. The GOP doesn't care about the rules when they apply to
them, so it's time the democrats quit trying to be normal, and do
what it takes to win. The GOP will cry foul no matter what.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 23, 2019, 01:07:43 pm
Trump is sending a large number of troops  to Saudi Arabia. According to  Trump
they are only there to give protection from air attack by Iran. We may just find
out how hard it is to stop attacks by drones and missiles that come in low.

Trump wants to cover the whistle blower message, because he is just a partisan
person who is out to hurt him politically. Though with enough pressure Trump may
give in and claim it wasn't a big deal anyway. Trump made a claim of honesty,
this from a man who has lied over 12,000 times since taking office.

Trump claims he has nothing to hide, yet he works hard to cover anything he fears
might hurt him politically. He claims every accusation about him is nothing but
the democrats wanting to get rid of him, because of his good work. Which if it
wasn't so serious  would be laughable. Trump has done nothing, but harm to
our country, to our environment, and economy. Unless of course your a multi
billionaire with a corporation wanting less regulation and taxes, Then each day
the GOP and Trump work to improve your profits. That is as long as your are
willing to pay for their reelection. Otherwise any help would be accidental if at all.

Trump has no problem pointing his finger at Joe Biden and his son, when his own
 children have been using their fathers presidency  to make money for themselves
and their father, Trump, the master of corruption.

Trump claims he wants to make this country great, but if he cares so much about
others. Why does he only stay at his resorts, and why does he want all those who
work for his administration to stay at his  resorts and hotels? A man who said he
didn't need anyone's money. Yet he expects foreign officials to  only stay at his
personal hotels,and resorts, to keep him happy. He should be encouraging these
people to stay at the place of their own choice if he cared about anyone but himself.

This isn't smart, it's just plain greed, and people should be ashamed to support
him. Especially those who claim to be religious. Most all religions tell their
followers to reach out to the needy, and to give strangers aid, not to treat them
and their children like animals as Trump does. Almost daily, Trump shows his
disdain for the  poor and the needy, here and elsewhere. Trump claims he is
only protecting  Americans, but facts show immigrants are generally only
dangerous to Trump's reelection. 

Trump and the VP stopped by at the United nations environmental conference
just long enough to have their pictures taken, then they left. Trump and the
GOP care little for the environment. Though there are rumblings that the
younger members of the GOP are pushing to give consideration to it. So
hopefully the GOP will change. Trouble is, by the time a new generation affects
decisions by the GOP leadership, it will likely be too late.

In an Iowa poll, Senator Warren slips just ahead of Joe Biden. Iowa of
course hasn't a large African American population that generally support
Biden, likely helped Warren come out ahead. Though Warren has been
gaining on Biden for months.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 24, 2019, 01:25:17 pm
Trump seems to think he is above the law, It is a violation of federal
law to accept or solicit information from a foreign country (Ukraine
in this case)  for the  purpose of affecting a federal election. Trump
has all but admitted doing this. If it turns out to be true, it's an
impeachable offense. No matter what Trump wants to call it. If
the GOP controlled senate fails to  remove Trump, they will have
to explain to their voters why they failed to uphold the law.

I am sure Trump will want to claim any information should be used
when it affects an election, no matter where it comes from. But in this
case there are reports that Trump pressured the Ukrainian president
to start an investigation on Joe Biden's son, and he is continuing  to
claim he  held back the aid due to corruption  or because NATO wasn't
doing enough. Even though European countries have given 15 billion
in aid. It appears Trump is trying to come up with any excuse he can
to save himself.

Only time will tell, but if Trump is allowed to get by with this, he
will stop at nothing to make his opponents look bad.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 24, 2019, 07:36:50 pm
IMPEACH!


It's officially started, folks.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-ukraine-09-24-2019/h_39afbe91eceed0399e0b0874faad1105

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/impeachment-nancy-pelosi-house-democrats/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/pelosi-impeachment-transcript/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/24/the-point-with-chris-cillizza-impeaching-trump-impeachment-101.cnn

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/senate-whistleblower-complaint-mcconnell-warner/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/joe-biden-trump-congress-impeach/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/donald-trump-nancy-pelosi-impeachment-ukraine/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-ukraine-09-24-2019/h_3b4c7bd033fe7bdb83936e9a0e95b2f0

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/opinions/trump-ukraine-democrats-only-choice-impeachment-honig/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/impeachment-process-trnd/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/pelosi-impeachment-polling/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-choice/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 25, 2019, 12:35:12 pm
The Ukraine transcript.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 26, 2019, 12:26:47 pm
Thank you for the above links Kobuk.

In the hearing with the Director of intelligence was held this
morning. The GOP complained about the democrats for their
terrible treatment of the Director of intelligence, Trump the
justice, department, and claimed the whistle blower was not
being accurate, because it didn't fully agree with a transcript
provided  by the White  house, people who have no credibility
when it comes to the truth.

Even though the democrats tried to get the director
to respond, his answers apparently were purposely designed
to delay and distract when he talked to the democrats. Not
so much when asked by the GOP, much of which were
about issues other than about the whistle blower?

It would seem some in the GOP feel president Trump, their king
should have iron clad protection about anything he tells or asks
of a foreign leader. No matter what, even if the president gave
a enemy aid to defeat our military. I am sure they would deny
it, but I heard a GOP member say the communication with foreign
leaders should never be disclosed. So how  would we ever know
if a president sold out the country for his/her benefit if this was
the case?

The intelligent director danced around the issue, but he didn't release
the whistle blowers letter because it was about president Trump. When
he realized this, he turned it over to the justice department, led by
Trumps attorney general Barr who was part of Trumps communication
with Ukraine president, and he likely gave it to Trump. I know several in
the GOP want to  make this issue much to do about  nothing, but it
involves the justice department, the state department, and the
president.  If this is allowed we won't likely have any more whistle
blowers, because it would be a futile  effort, at least against the GOP.

This whole issue is about Trump implying to the president of Ukraine
to investigate Joe Biden's son, or loose aid desperately needed by
the Ukrainian military in their fight against Russia's attacks. It's
very likely Trump hoped this action would please Putin of Russia
as well. Something Trump has been working to do since before
being elected president and after. There are reports That Trump
may owe hundreds of millions in loans from Russia and their
oligarchs. During Trump's campaign there was reports that he
was visited by Russian oligarchs. No solid evidence to  support
it though.

I sometimes wonder what Trump could do to turn the GOP
against him? They continue wanting to protect him, even
with Trump's latest acts. Apparently so afraid of his
tweets, they will turn their backs on the constitution and
the law. Trump wanted all this to  be locked away, because
he knew it would harm him. If it wasn't for the whistle blower
he would have likely gotten by with it, and the GOP apparently
are trying to say Trump is innocent, while wanting to  blame the
democrats.

Either Trump is an idiot who thinks it's okay to ask help from other
governments to aid his  reelection, or he is nothing but a corrupt man
trying to escape an action he knew was wrong. In either case he
should be impeached, and the GOP needs to live with it.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 27, 2019, 12:48:00 pm
I imagine the media reports are driving Trump crazy. They are having
a  field day with the possible impeachment of him. Even Fox news
is wondering what to report if Trump is no longer president.

Polls are showing a move to support impeachment, even now it's
50/50, and there is a majority in the house ready to vote for
impeachment if decided. Perhaps as early as the middle of
November.

Trump threatened those people in the white house who told the
whistle blower about his communication with the president of Ukraine.
Calling them spies, and guilty of treason, and should be executed.

Now Trump is trying to say the whistle blower is just a partisan hack,
or someone working for the democrats. Trump seems to forget he has
already turned over a transcript that proves he solicited damaging
information to help his reelection.

We must protect whistle blowers, they can be the only defense
against corruption by government officials. People who work hard
to cover up their abuse of power, and misuse of tax dollars.

The house has responded, telling Trump any intimidation of
witnesses will be strongly condemned. It seems Trump
feels he is immune from any breakage of the law.

This action by Trump is more proof that he is not interested in the
security of the United States if he feels he needs to protect himself
first.  He may feel he should be able to gain dirt on a political opponent
however he can, but when a president breaks a law, or does
something politically damaging. In a way other countries can see,
he has given them the ability to blackmail him, to use that
information to get favors, or decisions they want, that could
harm our country.

Also it appears white house lawyers have been putting other transcripts
of political nature into a super secure computer system. Perhaps for
it's protection, or perhaps to  hide it. In either case this information
should be sent to congress. Especially now that it has been shown
Trump possibly asks other leaders for information to help his reelection.
Who can say what Trump has done in the past.

Trump is feeling the pain, because he is coming up with excuses and
trying to place blame on others. This tactic is normal for Trump. He
blames, accuses, and then says everyone is out to get him. It would
be nice if for once he would just admit he has done something wrong.
 But his ego just won't let him do it. This is why he never had any business
being president. Above all a president should not lie, or put self interest
ahead of the country. Trump just doesn't understand the concept of civil
service.

The leader of the senate is already saying  he may not even consider
having an impeachment trial, even if congress submits articles  of
impeachment to the senate. Claiming he doesn't see any reason
for impeachment at this time. It appears Moscow Mitch is possibly
corrupt as well. He changed the rules to help put far right conservatives
on the supreme court, so he is capable of anything. I wonder if GOP
senators want to go home and tell their voters why they ignored their
duty as senators. To not even vote to clear Trump.

It's time we teach citizenship in our schools, not just what it means, but
how the lack of it can destroy not only a country, but a society as well.

This is why congressional office should not be a career, but a service
to the country. Career politicians are subject to  corruption, which can
harm the country. This is why big business isn't controlled. They buy
protection from our congress, and by a corrupt president if one exists.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and you can likely
fine a link to  the whistle blowers report as well.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 28, 2019, 12:45:57 pm
It turns out when Trump med with Russian's in the oval office, he told them
he was fine with the help they gave him to be president. Perhaps even
to  say he would remove all sanctions when he could  do it. All this after
he swore up and down to the public that he didn't  get any  help from
Russia. In fact Trump wanted to  hide the meeting altogether, and
we only found out when Russia broke the news.

Now reports of more conversations are coming to light. Phone calls
to the Saudi King, and prince, to Putin of Russia. Now there isn't any
problem with a president calling other leaders, but when white house
lawyers start hiding the content of the calls, we have to wonder what
is going on. Especially when they hide them on super secret servers.

Perhaps it's the magic of a billionaires life style that turns people to
Trump. A man who can at a whim fly around the world, women fawning
after him, could turn most peoples heads. Even to  think it might be
worth the risk of a few years  in jail by working for him. Then if he
promises to protect  them, could bring them in, like a fish on a hook.
Only thing is Trump will toss them in the trash to protect himself.

The GOP senators privately despise Trump, but fear the loss of office if
they speak their minds. They stand around claiming, "I haven't had
time to read the whistle blower report. (9 pages)". I think that shows
how  little they think of the country. Well they should spend a few
weeks in Russia's parliament. There they can see what they are
asking for. To be dragged out and shot if they don't play ball.

Intimidation is Trumps law. Not only is he threatening anyone who
is in the white house who turns against him, he threatens all of congress
and the senate if they don't work for him. Also to fire those who don't
remain loyal to him. Trump seems to think he can run the government
as a business where the boss is a dictator who can fire anyone.

He could get by with this if those in the GOP continue to  support
him and his authoritarian acts. Yes it's likely some of his followers
would strap on a bomb for him, but to save our democracy we must
remove him from office. If not by impeachment, by the ballot box.

Trump and the GOP are going to do all they can to delay and delay.
They know the public has a short memory, and will loose interest
if this investigation drags out too long. Yet if the it is pushed to fast
the GOP will say it's just the democrats wanting Trump  gone wither
the facts show it or not. They feel if it isn't done by the first of the
year, politics will put an end to it.

In reality Trump should have been impeached 2 years ago. He has
done many things that would have gotten any democratic president
impeached. I have a hunch the GOP would have started an impeachment
of H. Clinton within a month of her inauguration. With Trump on TV
demanding her removal.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 29, 2019, 12:40:03 pm
Well Trump is doing all he can to distract the public by continuing to
attack H. Clinton. Someone he feels will stir up his voting base. The
old lock her up game. Well even if she was guilty, which she is not, she
can't be charged due to the time has ran out on the charge, and Trump
knows it. It's just  a desperate attempt by Trump to stay in office.

If Trump was really smart, which he is not. He would try to make a deal
offering to resign, if he is pardoned of all charges. I really doubt that his
super ego would allow him to do it. Even though it would be the best thing
he could ever do for the country, and himself.

It's sad how the GOP and Trumps cronies continue trying to say this business
where Trump was caught using his office to threaten a foreign president, for the
purpose to help his reelection. Is a lot about nothing. Makes one wonder what
Trump is telling these people? Is he threatening them, or paying them, who can
say. I can see why a GOP member of congress might be worried, but ex
government workers, are doing it as well.

Trump didn't just ask Ukraine to  investigate Joe Biden, he tried to get
Ukraine to admit it was they who were out to  help  him in 2016, and not
Russia. A dumb attempt by Trump since the Mueller Report showed proof
it was Russia who did it. Trump is trying all this  even though memos of
his conversation with the Ukrainian president shows he did it all.

Trump and the GOP have decided an attack on the whistle blower is the
best defense. Even though the memos of Trumps conversation prove the
whistle blower is telling the truth. Yet the GOP feel they can convince the
public it's a democrat ploy to get rid of Trump. So we can expect to hear
huge amounts of hot air coming from the GOP and Trump.

When Trump ran for office, the GOP were calling Trump a danger to the
country and the party, but now they are doing all they can to keep him.
Just what is their reason wanting to keep Trump when they all know he
is a terrible person who should be in jail and not the white house? They
get on TV, and radio, making fools of them selves kissing up to Trump.
When they know he is hurting our country. I hope the GOP ends up with
the worst election of their parties existence. Because they no longer stand
for the country, but only their party, and Trump.

The American public appear to be in favor of the impeachment inquiry
with polls showing over 50%, and climbing. Perhaps this is why the
GOP and Trump are getting so desperate with their attacks. We can
only wonder how long it will be before cracks start to show in the
defense of Trump. It may take the loss of public support for Trump
before the GOP members start worrying more about their reelection
than Trump.  Only time will tell.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 30, 2019, 12:37:18 pm
Some wonder how the accusation  that Biden did something wrong in
Ukraine is affecting his campaign. So far if anything it is helping him, but
those running his campaign are working hard to bring out the facts over
Trumps lies.

The GOP is claiming the democrats should be doing congressional work
instead of fighting with the president. Well isn't that interesting, the GOP
controlled senate has done little but sit on the 200 plus bills passed by the
democrat controlled house. All the GOP senate leader is doing, is to be a
puppet of Trump. By letting Trump tell him what to do, and putting every
right leaning conservative man on federal courts. No matter wither their
qualified or not. If Trump wants them the GOP work to install them. It's
been the desire of Moscow Mitch to fill the courts with conservative judges
ever since Trump took office. He cares nothing about fairness as long as
these judges help the rich and big business  supporters of the GOP.

This is why the last two supreme court justices are right wing conservatives.
I can remember the GOP crying the democrats only want to fill the courts
with  liberals, yet each time they put a moderate on the court. When  all
the GOP want, is right wing conservatives.  People who care more about
the  rich than the rights of the common man.

The GOP has always been a supporter of business, but only over the last
40 years have they been working for the riches Americans, and not the
middle class. People who are hard working Americans. People who mostly
drive the economy. The rich only take from the economy, not the other way
around. Unless we return to supporting the middle class this country will
turn into a country for the rich and only for the rich. Some likely feel I  hate
the rich, but no, I only want a  country that works for all Americans and not
just those controlled by greed.

Under Trumps wishes the state department is investigating H. Clinton, and
many of those who worked in the state department when she was secretary
of state. This is nothing but a diversion to turn the news away from his
possible impeachment. Just more tax dollars wasted by a president who
fears removal for his crimes.

The GOP is dancing all around the facts, trying to protect Trump. It was Trumps
own words that is getting him in trouble, yet the GOP is trying to blame everyone
else. Trump is on twitter hoping to convince his followers it's all about the democrats
wanting to get rid of him. He is claiming the democrats should be working to pass
legislation and forget Trumps crimes. Well I say, tell the senate to get busy, because
the house is doing it's job while the GOP controlled senate is not.

Some say the democrats should work for health care, and drug prices. Well they have been,
but the senate and Trump are blocking any movement to give Americans better health
coverage, and lower drug costs. Trump and the GOP only want to help big business grow
richer at the cost of lives. It's the belief of the GOP that only free enterprise can do the
job.  Well I agree, but only if competition is allowed. The GOP has removed competition
at the request of big  business. This is why costs are rising. No real competition, and
it's the fault of the GOP.

The GOP try to claim the democrats want socialism, but they are misrepresenting the
definition of the word. Socialism is where the government owns businesses, and
everything about an economy. We use limited taxes that help share the cost of  needed
goods and services to the public. Police, Fire departments, Public schools, and most
city utilities are controlled by governments. All socialist in nature, but you don't see
the GOP complaining about them. The GOP claimes that the private sector is best.
I would agree, but greed often rules over the public good, and must be controlled.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 01, 2019, 01:36:11 pm
Trump is working hard to  please Putin, to  remove sanctions that have slowed
the Russian economy. This causes the Russian people to be upset, and makes
it harder for Putin to keep the support of the people. The sanctions also prevent
access to the oil and gas that exists deep underground. Putin needs help from
American oil companies expertise to drill for it.

So Trump is trying to convince Ukraine to make peace with Russia, even though
Russia has stolen their lands, and killed thousands with the war Putin wants
so he can claim the entire country of Ukraine as part of Russia.

Once Ukraine is part of Russia, sanctions will be removed, but also Russia's
attack on our election to put Trump in office, have caused other sanctions. So
Trump wants to disprove the Mueller report that Russia did it. If he can then all
sanctions could be removed from Russia.

Who knows what reward Trump expects to get by helping  Putin, but his
acts put our country at risk along with Europe.

Trump only cares about himself and the money he wants to make. He like
his supporters will likely wonder what happened when everything falls
apart.

According to Trump the democrats are attacking him and the country. He is so
innocent and perfect in every way including those who give their loyalty to  him.
Everyone else is bad, because he is perfect, and to say different is a lie.

This is why he claims the news media is bad, because they don't agree with
him and his lies. Unfortunately many of his supporters have been convinced
Trump is everything good, and only he speaks the truth.

We can only hope these people  see the light, and realize where he is leading the
country. Not to prosperity for all, but  to the destruction of our democracy. Many
of the richest Americans want a system much like that of Russia. With a dictator
who supports the rich the way Putin does.  A society where only the super rich
control us all. When they do, workers will have  no rights, and any strike will be
taken down. Using force if needed.

\People like Trump see a controlled society as a way to hold power and gain
riches. I fear if they succeed, it will be very hard to turn back, because like
Putin's Russia the police will treat any objection with brutal force to stop it.
Then the Civil war Trump threatens will likely happen.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Also the
whisle blowers report as well.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 02, 2019, 01:08:56 pm
Senator Sanders apparently had some blockages that affected his heart. Doctors
put 2 stints in to open the arteries. It's very good Sanders is doing well physically,
but this is likely to put a damper on his chances of nomination to run for president.
We can be sure Trump will use it against the senator.

The speaker of the house had a press conference today where she reached
out to the president. To support the efforts of congress to reduce drug  costs,
work on infrastructure, and trade agreements.  Seems Trump is claiming he
can't do anything with an impeachment hanging over him. Even though
president Clinton, and Nixon continued to work while they were facing
impeachment. 

She was asked about gun violence prevention,
and replied the president called about it, but little
of substance was said by Trump. Seem Trump didn't
have much to  say on the subject.  She  reminded
the press that a bill had been sent to the senate about
gun control, but nothing had been done about it.

she also reminded the press that the house will treat
the president fairly, and follow the constitution. No
matter what Trump tries to claim.

The house committees are warning Trump and the
state department, that any obstruction will be looked
at as an admission of guilt, and added to Trump's articles
of impeachment. They are not going to play Trumps game
of lie and delay to drag his impeachment out for months.

After this Trump had a news conference (more of a speech) where he
had a virtual temper tantrum. Crying about how bad the democrats
are. Repeatinhis complaints again, and again as he always does when
he doesn't like what he hears. Every time he talks about his conversation
with  the president of Ukraine, instead of being honest he just claims it's
perfect, nothing about the content, just perfect. Even though his own
past words say otherwise.

Trump says everything about Ukraine and his conversation is wrong,
and says it again and again. As I have said in the past, when Trump
goes into his hard sales mode, it's generally just lies, and more lies.

Will Trumps supporters squeal with delight as Trump pushes to
investigation H. Clinton over her emails?  Only time will tell, but I
wouldn't be surprised. They love anything trump tells them to love.

The big problem with Trumps supporters is they don't want to believe
anything bad about him. They just think it's politics against a man
wanting to do good things for the country. This  con artist play is
how people end up supporting a cult monster like Trump. It's
happened in other countries with disastrous results.  Hopefully we
can get rid of Trump and his crooked people before it's too late.

Trump is trying to call his impeachment an attempt by the democrats
to illegally take power from him. It seems Trump only wants to use the
constitution when it is helpful to him, and ignore it other wise. Just how
long will the GOP leadership cow down to a president who continues
to break the law, and his oath of office?

Do they really believe Trump won't turn against the GOP when it
serves his purpose? If they don't they are just fooling themselves.
Trump is a user, and is only loyal to himself and no one else.
If allowed his corruption will damage our country.

When someone like Trump has power, they will use it to their own
advantage. Like a child he will test to see what his limits are, and will
push, and push till someone with authority says NO. Then he will have
a temper tantrum, making threats. Unfortunately Trump won't just hold
his breath.

Trump has spent the last 2 1/2 years trying to  find people who will  do
his bidding without question. He has had some success, with a attorney
general, Intelligence director, and secretary of state. All who work for
Trumps benefit, and not the country.

It appeared  Ukraine is backing down, and is ready to make a deal with
Russia by accepting elections in Crinra that will give Russia legal
control of the land they have taken. Also to accept controls over
decisions Ukraine may make with  other countries.  This is being met
with disapproval by the people of Ukraine. It seems their new president
is being forced to do this because Trump wants Ukraine to make peace
with Russia, by stopping weapon sales to them.

If this goes as planned, Trump will want to remove sanctions from
Russia. Possibly allowing oil companies to begin a 1/2 Trillion dollar
deal with Russia, to help with oil exploration.

The GOP warns against big government, saying it could cause the
downfall of the country.  To an extreme where the economy couldn't
support the government, It could be true. The truth being it's corruption
that brings down government. Not it's  size. Governments down through
history have mostly failed due  to corruption. The Roman Empire fell due to
corruption. They tried to enslave the Germanic people, who turned
on the empire. It was corrupt people who caused it all.

Corruption has to be fought, otherwise it can, and will destroy a nation.
I have a hunch it was corruption that caused the soviet union to  fall.
Now it's a corrupt leader Putin running Russia, who will likely cause
problems for millions of people. Until it fails as all corrupt systems
do.

Nation's with corrupt leaders usually stay in power by putting corrupt
leaders in their military, and law enforcement. This to prevent their
own demise.  Many countries have been corrupted by discovery of Oil
or valuable minerals. The money is used by corrupt leadership
for them selves while the people suffer when they should  thrive.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Also the
whistle blowers report as well.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 03, 2019, 12:38:26 pm
One of Trumps biggest failings is the way he wants to
believe conspiracy theories over facts. If one of his
long time far right friends misleads him with a false
story, Trump falls for it. The better he likes the person
who tells him the lie, the harder Trump falls for it. 

Trump doesn't know how to do anything but dump his
troubles on everyone else. He is trying to involve the
Vice president by saying he knows what is going on
too.

Now Trump is asking China to investigate Biden, and
son. It will be interesting to see if China plays along.
After all they unlike Ukraine can say no, and if Trump
bumps up the tariffs, it will hurt Trump more than them.

Trump doesn't seem to understand he can't ask other countries
for help to  win his election. It goes against the constitution of
our country. It just more of him trying to use common sense
ideas to do the job of president. If people want the president
play by Trumps rules, the constitution will have to be changed
to allow it. That will take the vote of the congress, senate, and
2/3 of the states to  agree.

People have to  learn, common sense doesn't work to run a
democracy, or a republic. A good common sense idea might
be good for some, but is usually bad for most. If Trump's ideas
how to run a government were so good, the founders would have
used them. There isn't anything new with the way Trump wants
to do. It's just authoritarian greed, that hurts the majority.

As as investigations go, how about Trump's family. Reports
show they have benefited from ole dad being president. Just
how many countries has Trump held out his hand asking help
to win in2020. What has he offered to get that help? Only
time will tell.

People who think the democrats aren't doing their job need to
quit listening to the GOP, and look at the congressional record.
If anyone isn't doing their job it's Trump and the GOP. They just
want to accept money from big business, and vote to help them
make higher profits. This is one of the main reasons we have
high drug costs.

The last few days, Trump doesn't really answer questions from the
news media. He just starts a rant about how bad the democrats
are treating him. A rant that often varies with lies that change
according to the mood he is in.

Some may wonder if Senator Sanders is up to the job after his
heart problem. People need to realize a lot of people lead very
active lives with stints holding their arteries open. It's better to
have a president who is honest about how his health is, than
one who lies about his health. I have a hunch Sanders and his
family are seriously discussing his plans wither to pursue his
candidacy or not. Also this is why we have a vice president.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Also to the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 04, 2019, 12:38:30 pm

Some might think Trump's asking help for his reelection, from other
countries isn't a big deal. Well I have a hunch most people wouldn't
want another country telling them how to live, or much of anything
else. So why would they want some other country telling them who
we should have as president. I think it's just supporters of Trump
looking for any excuse to keep Trump in the white house.

Trump had a diplomat removed from Ukraine, because he said
she wouldn't go after Biden and his son. This person had a history
of being a hard worker against corruption, including the corruption
Trump was trying to start. So Trump got rid of her.

Trump doesn't seem to understand how dangerous it is to damage
the state department. An agency which has done more to prevent
wars than any other part of our government. It's just more of Trump
thinking he can do the job alone.

Trump is bragging again about an economy he has done little
to help. Factories are closing, farms are going broke, businesses
are closing, but to hear Trump everything is great. The latest
jobs report a 3.5% unemployed is good, but considering
the job losses, I sometimes wonder if Trump and the GOP are
doing something to make things look better than they really are.

Trump was in front of news reporters again today, where he
continued his loud mouthed rants about the democrats and
Biden. You can always tell when he rants, because he apparently
thinks shouting makes it more believable. He even  claimed
he doesn't care about politics, but wants to get rid  of corruption.
If that was the case he should resign, because he is the most
corrupt president in the history of our country. It was obvious
he was on defense today, which is unusual for Trump.

The fact Trump believes in conspiracy theories shows he has no
business being president. Leaders who follow conspiracy theories
lead them selves and their country to disaster. Hitler likely lost his 
war due to this. Stalin, and Hitler had thousands murdered
due to such theories.

It was reported that Trump wanted immigrants at our boarder
with Mexico shot down if they threw anything at the boarder
guards. Also he asked about building a moat with alligators
and snakes along his wall. Also sharp spikes running along
the wall top. He was told he couldn't get by with this, so
Trump abandoned it. Just more proof of how little Trump
thinks of anyone but himself.

Trump says he won't release anything to the house until they
have a house vote to start an impeachment. In my opinion
this is just another excuse to hide his illegal activities. He would
just come up with something else if they had a house vote. It's
just a delaying tactic, because he knows the vote would be to
continue the impeachment inquiry.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Also to the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 05, 2019, 12:50:20 pm
Another whistle blower may step forward to back up the first whistle
blower. Trump has been calling these people all kinds of names trying
to discredit them to his voting base. It seems his supporters still want
to support Trump even though his own words show his guilt. I find it
amazing how gullible many of his supporters are. It's no wonder why
so many people are taken in by con artists like Trump. I guess that's
why so many people believe in conspiracy theories, and  Trump uses
this weakness in people to hold on to support.

Now there is evidence the memo of Trumps call telling the Ukraine
president to investigate Biden or else, is missing some of  what
Trump said in the call. This  doesn't surprise me, because  I don't
think they would have released the memo if they felt it  made Trump
look totally guilty. I imagine Trump had a fit when he found out they
released what they did.

I don't know how people can work for a man like Trump. They
never know what he will do or say. I understand he walks around
the white house loudly ranting at times. I imagine most of the staff
find a place to hide when he does. My brother was a lot like that, so
I can understand what they might be going through.

Trump calls Joe Biden corrupt, because he possibly helped his son make
a lot of money while Vice president. An accusation which hasn't been
proved, even after a 40 million dollar GOP investigation.

Trump really shouldn't place blame for something Joe Biden didn't do,
but he is totally guilty of. He has helped his family make millions since
he was elected to the office of president. The old saying "People who live
in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks." Applies  in this case.

Trump and company will do anything to stay in power. It's time the
democrats quit pussyfooting around and go after these people for
supporting Trump over the constitution and the law.

It's time they impeach not only Trump, but the Vice president,
the secretary of state, and Attorney General Barr.

If they don't these people will work to help each other stay
in power, and when they are done, this country will be  so
damaged it will take years to recover if not decades.

This foul group doesn't care about anything, but power and
money. They are harming the environment, and our public
lands, forests, waterways, and our national security. All for
the good of the richest Americans.

We can't depend on the GOP, which is no longer a party of
the people, but one owned by Trump. While it is true, the GOP
would find it hard to impeach the VP along with Trump, because
it would put the speacker in the white house. Nancy Pelosi, a
democrat. But if they don't, we can expect the Vice president
to pardon Trump and others with the excuse of not dividing
the country. The same excuse president Ford used when he
pardoned Nixon, after he was elevated to the white house,
For all we know a pardon was promised to Nixon.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Also to the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 06, 2019, 12:45:51 pm

Reports say there is a second whistle blower, and will likely
reinforce  the first, and has first hand information. Trump
and the  GOP have been trying to say the first whistle blower
was  reporting hear say. So this will stop that. Trump is
wanting  to find out who these people are so he can tell
his supporters  about how bad, and who they are.

Trump and the GOP have been working hard to spin all this into
the ground,  and out of sight. Yet after two weeks it's still going
strong. So we can only  wonder what Trump will try next. He is
even trying to say his asking China for help was a joke. Seems i
remember him saying that when he asked Russia for help. In both
cases no one laughed.

No one should believe any accusation by foreign countries to
help Trump be reelected. Because they will do it to benefit
themselves. Trump is warning our allies to support him or
else he won't support them, and telling countries that want
to keep him in office, like Russia to help also.

Trump is even telling the media and others there will be a
civil war if he is removed from office. Is this a threat? I can
see a handful of supporters trying something if he is removed,
but I think state governors would have the national guard
out to stop them in short order.

People who support Trump shouldn't work for a man who lies
about his own statements he made himself. I can understand
why they might not want to  believe the news, but when he
tries to  deny his own words, that should be the uncrossable
line of support.

Trump has been trying to deny his own words for days. At first GOP senators
were struck dumb, fearing to say anything, but now some of them are out
selling their souls for Trump with lies and misleading the public where they
can. It seems we have a bunch of mice in the GOP controlled senate cowering
as Trump watches them like a wild cat looking for his dinner.

I think these GOP senators are working together trying to  figure out how
to protect Trump and even to a greater degree, themselves. The leader of
the senate Moscow Mitch is putting up ads at home saying as long as he
is running the senate Trump will stay. Just shows how unpatriotic he is.
Partisanship should never go against the constitution. It time we remove
all these senators who act more like mice than men. Or perhaps I should
say RATS.

I wonder where all these Federalists are? People who
want to protect the constitution. Seems they are hiding
under the floor boards as well.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 07, 2019, 01:19:12 pm
Senator Sanders is apparently doing well recovering from his
stay in the hospital for his cardiac troubles. Some are saying
this will hurt his chances, but I think he will come back strong.
We can be sure if this had happened to Trump, we would have
never heard about it. I still wonder what happened a few months
ago when the VP was called back to the white house because of
an apparent emergency. Could be Trump suffered some kind
of problem, that could have incapacitated him. I douse if we
will ever know.

It appears Trump is wanting to pull us out of Syria again. It
was last December when he tweeted we were pulling out. This
caused his secretary of Defense to  resign. If we pull out the
Kurd's will be attacked by the Turks, and pushed back from the
boarder with Turkey. The leader of Turkey see's the Kurd's as
terrorists. I can't say who is at fault, but Turkey has been
against the Kurd's for many years.

It wouldn't surprise me if Trump is just doing this to  help
the leader of Turkey. Trump has property in Turkey, so he
could be protecting his wallet again. He apparently is letting
our allies in the area like the British to get out on their own.

It's likely ISIS will use this opening to come back. When the
Kurd's are forced to leave, thousands of ISIS refuges held by 
them will be turned loose. Reports are most of them will
attempt  to rebuild ISIS again. Trump claims U S troops
are running the prison camps. This isn't true. Just another
lie by Trump, or he is purposely misleading the public.

It's just more proof that Trump, who only thinks in the present will
find his pull out will set the area aflame again. If Trump would listen
to experts, he would be more successful, but he thinks he knows it
all and is perfect in his actions.

There is talk the democrats are following Trumps play book. If
anyone is following Trump, it's the news media. They are so
afraid of looking partisan they bend over backward to give
Trump the benefit of the doubt.

This is how Trump used the media in 2016. He kept steering
the pot to stay on the news. This kept his opponents from
getting the coverage they deserved. We can expect Trump
to do the same this time. Also the media feels if they give
Trump bad press, they have to give all Trumps opponents
the same treatment.

It's time they call Trump out when he lies, and call it a lie, not
some other term that sounds nicer. Admittedly they have
improved over 2016, but Trump is a master at marketing so
the democrats will have to be on the ball, and treat Trump
just as tough. Otherwise Trump will walk all over them.

Already the media is putting members of the  GOP
on TV showing their arguments against the democrats.
I say give the candidates just as much press as the GOP.
All of them, and don't give the GOP more than one response
for the presidential candidates. In this case that would be
about ten responses to each GOP comment. If \ they fuss,
let them run more people for president.

Trump continues to fight the release of his taxes, just
what his Trump afraid of? Will it show why he works so
hard to help Putin of Russia? I don't see it hurting him
all that much if it's just to show he pay's little or no
tax. In one of his debates with H. Clinton he responded
saying basically only fools pay taxes. How else would one
think when he said it was smart not to pay tax. With 
Trump, we are all stupid fools unless we are very rich.
And that is the way every con artist thinks.

If Trump would use his talents for the good of the country
instead of himself. He could have been a good president.
But no, he see's everything and everyone just like himself.
People who grab everything they can, and lie to win. In other
words it's Dog eat Dog in his belief.

The GOP senate is continuing to support Trump for fear he
will work to remove them from office. For the last several
years the GOP has been self centered, and not for the good
of the country. This all started when Reagan was president.
It's time the public gives these turncoats the boot, and rebuild
the GOP. A party that wanted a country that was morally strong,
believed in hard work, and stood for all Americans, not just the
very rich. Also believed in working for the good of the country,
instead of just working to win, as Trump does.

One last thing, it was reported that Iran used a cyber attack against
the GOP the other day. Apparently they didn't get much, but who can
say, because the GOP wouldn't admit if if they did. I am not in favor
of this, but it is nice to see the GOP getting some of what Trump 
wants to deny.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Along with
the whistle blowers report.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 09, 2019, 01:06:46 pm
Trump is claiming the impeachment inquiry by the house is
unconstitutional. Trump needs to do a bit of study, impeachment
is the sole constitutional right of the house. Just as they did for
president Nixon. Trumps refusal to cooperate is himself going
against the constitution. Improper use of power was one of
the articles of impeachment used against Nixon, and will
likely be used for Trump.

Trump is trying to say he is being tried unfairly by the democrats,
but they are not putting him on trial. That happens in the senate
because an impeachment is just the indictment, and the senate
decides his removal. Trump needs to read the constitution he
took an oath for, that he has failed to uphold.

Trump is still trying to find out who the whistle blower is, and
the democrats are doing all they can to protect him or her.
They know the GOP would love to tell Trump if they found out.
Just to get a pat on the head from their King.  They don't seem
to care, that the law protects the identity of a whistle blower,
even from our corrupt president.

Trump still claims his Innocence while trying to hide his corrupt
deals with world leaders, especially Ukraine. I kind of think according
to the polls, Trump is loosing support even with Republicans. So I
imagine Trump isn't sleeping quite as well.

Well the corrupt leader of Turkey has his army moving into
Syria. He claims it's just to setup a safe zone 20 by 250 miles, 
supposedly to keep their enemy the Kurd's away from their
boarder. So who is going to look after the ISIS refugee camps
when the Kurd's are gone? Who is going to keep Russia and Iran
from  moving into the areas we once protected.

According to the Turkish leader, he wants to move Islamic
Arabs in to this safe zone, so the Kurd's can't return. This so
called peace plan by the Turkish leader will likely make it possible
for ISIS to rebuild, with 70,000 some odd supporters and fighters
that could soon be in this zone roaming free.

Trump claims he is pulling our people out of Syria, because he wants to
end our involvement in the middle east. This move of Trump will undo
any gains we may have made there. We were in the area to help the
Kurd's defeat ISIS, and to help Syrian opposition to the corrupt leader
of Syria, that Putin wants to keep in power. 

It's more likely Trump made this move to please the leader of Turkey, a
country that has made Trump untold millions of dollars. Trump got ten
million from Turkey just to use his name. It turns out when Turkish
diplomats are in Washington DC they stay at Trump's hotel, and have
large events there. So Trump as he admitted during his campaign, has
conflict of interest, when dealing with the government of Turkey. Now
Trump is inviting the corrupt leader of Turkey to the white house.

It isn't just the Kurd's we are leaving behind, there are several allies  who
were there too. So they will have to move out as well. Trump apparently
made this decision alone, without consulting with our allies, or our military.
A typical move by Trump, a man who considers himself a genius with
anything he does. This attitude of Trump puts us all in danger, as he
makes wild decisions without asking for help. So far Trump has been
able to back down from his bad decisions. Hopefully he won't step
into something harmful the U S can't back out of.

Trump doesn't seem to  understand, when he speaks the world
see's his words as the current policy of the United States.  He can
try to play his games with his opponents, but world leaders listen.

The LGBTQ, people Trump claimed he would stand up for, are under
attack by Trump. His justice department is at the supreme court
claiming it's fine for businesses to fire people for being gay. Apparently
claiming sexual rights don't include the LGBTQ. I am sure Trump is doing
this to please his evangelical supporters. As he has done with opposing
abortion. 

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
And likely the whistle blowers report too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 10, 2019, 12:42:25 pm

The RNC is spending over a million dollars a week on internet ads. This
in it's self is okay, but many of these ads are there to mislead and lie to
the American public. Any internet platform should be ashamed to  allow it's
business to be used in this manor. We can only wonder what Trump told the
CEO of Facebook when they met a few weeks ago. According to Facebook the
ads they per mitt have been fact checked, but who is checking the fact
checkers?

Two business men and a congressman were apparently involved with
transferring foreign  money into helping Trumps reelection campaign.
The two business men have been taken into custody, I don't know who
the congressman is, or his party affiliation if any. This is more proof
other countries feel Trump wants their help to stay in office, and is
glad to get it. They know if they please Trump he may return the
favor.

The carnage continues as Turkey pushes into northern Syria. Our people
have to stand and watch as Turkey attacks not only Kurdish troops, but
civilians and children too. Even GOP senators are telling Trump this is
wrong, and is likely the biggest mistake of his presidency.

Trump is claiming any ISIS released from prison camps will return
home to Europe. Yet at least 10,000 fighters are from Syria and Iraq.
So it's likely ISIS will grow again, and I am sure they have weapons
hidden through out the area they used to control.

This time they will likely be after any American they might find, and as
before be heading's will show up online. Perhaps some will remember
when ISIS burned prisoners while held in cages. Those who had their
heads cut off were the lucky ones.

Trump, when asked about loosing allies, said he can get new allies
anytime with ease. This just shows how little Trump understands foreign
policy. Countries won't send troops to help someone who will cut and
run as Trump is doing.

When Trump took office, one of the first things he did was to begin the
destruction of our foreign intelligence agencies, and even the FBI.
Because he has the  idea they pass along misinformation, and not
to be believed. Why?  Because Trump believes in conspiracy theories
fed to him by the  far right, and even Russia. Fortunately those working
in the CIA and  other intelligence agencies are not easily removed
or controlled.  So even though Trump has fired many of those
who head them, the rank and file continue  to protect our country
the best they can.

I imagine our Troops are shamefaced when they have to just watch as
a ally of ours is brutally attacked. Trump says he is for our troops, but
I wonder how many only follow him because of duty and country?
 

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it.
And likely the whistle blowers report too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 11, 2019, 12:52:47 pm
Trump is at his lowest point in his presidency. The GOP senators
when asked by reporters, dodge and fail to have answers fearing
Trump will talk about them on twitter if they do. Even though Trump
wants to deny it, polls show support for the impeachment inquiry
and to even remove him from office. At some point even GOP
senators will be afraid to support Trump.

After hearing some of what Trump said in his latest rally, it's
obvious he plans a campaign of lies and rude remarks. Much as
he did in 2016. I think his opponents should use Trumps lies
against him, and I think the democrats would do better sticking
with  policies the public is interested in, and not have to listen
to fights.  They aren't going to convert Trump's supporters
anyway, they are blind to Trumps true agenda. So let Trump
rant and rave alone, like most bullies he is lost without a foe. 

The ambassador to Ukraine that Trump had removed is speaking
to congress today. Telling her side of how she was treated, when
she was trying to get rid of corruption. The story is she was removed
because she was in Trumps way, and wouldn't help build a case
of lies about Joe Biden and his son. I hope she is able to get
the truth out, in spite of Trump's lies and his cronies.

Trump is trying to  call it a win when we leave our allies to
face a force who is out to kill them. How is a win when we
run out on a  people who died to help us defeat ISIS?
Trump seems to think anything he does is a win, no matter
who it hurts. Trumps supporters should be ashamed of Trump
after he shames our country by running out on those who aught
and died for us.

It's not that much different than how he has left Puerto Rico when
they still need help recovering from hurricanes of over a year ago.
Men from Puerto Rico have fought and died in the U S military.
Yet Trump treats them like second class citizens.

I think when Trump goes to his rally's, he feels he must tell
his supporters that only he is good, and all others are crooks
who wish to help themselves, and not the country. Trump as
others who lie and cheat as he does, think everyone else is
just the same, so he treats them that way. It's  common for
people  like Trump to see the world filled with  bad people,
and think they must be the same to survive. So he fights, 
perhaps in his mind to do good, who can say, because he 
never wants to admit he could be wrong, and lies to cover
his mistakes. The longer Trump is in office the greater
our troubles will be.

It takes  a smart man to know his limits and is willing to
look to others for advice. This is one of Trumps failings, he
like other bad leaders in history think they are smarter than
anyone else. This often leads to their destruction and often
the country they wish to lead.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 12, 2019, 12:54:28 pm
The two businessmen who were arrested just had a meeting
with Trumps personal lawyer. They had one way plane tickets to
Europe when they were caught. Trump claims he has no connection
with these men. Who were apparently involved with Trumps personal
lawyer to investigate Joe Biden in Ukraine.

Trump never admits knowing anyone he feels might hurt his base of
support. In this case the pictures show Trump with these men apparently
sitting down to dinner. So it's likely he knows them, much more than he
wants to admit.

There is no evidence that Biden did anything illegal in Ukraine, in fact he
was working against corruption there in spite of anything Trump says.
Also these men were apparently involved in giving Trumps super pack
300,000 dollars from a Russian oligarch. Since this came to light
several GOP congressmen have given their share of this ill gotten
gain to charity. I have a hunch all these congressmen claim innocence.
of having any knowledge about the monies source. They ought to be
suspicious of anything Trump is involved with. It could cost them
their seats in congress.

Trump uses the word Treason loosely, but if anyone is guilty of Treason
it's president Trump. The most corrupt man ever to serve in that high
office. Once the public realizes how bad Trump is, the GOP members
will no longer support him, fearing the loss of their office in 2020.

Several long time workers in the state department are resigning, they
can no longer support Trump, and his corrupt foreign policies. These
people are patriots who will not work for Trump, a man who cares only
for himself and not our country. He stands at his rally's telling lies and
making filthy remarks, wanting cheers from people who blindly
follow him.

Trump tried to prevent the ex ambassador of Ukraine from talking to
congress. A woman he removed because she wouldn't help make
up lies about Joe Biden and his son. So to Trump she is a bad
person who is against him. Trump wants his supporters to
think anyone who works against him is against our country.  When
in fact it's Trump who is hurting the U S A with his mad desire
for fame, and all the money he can get.

f think Trump is trying to help Putin, because he is one of his last
resources for money, and I think he still hopes to build Hotels in
Russia. I really doubt if Putin will do much of anything to help
Trump once he is no longer president. Putin called him a clown in
2015, and likely still thinks of him that way.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 13, 2019, 12:43:11 pm

A friend of mind said "Don't worry, all will be well in the end." I
fear many people who look at Trump feel that way. They are
willing to look the other way just because he does a few things
they like. If we put Trump in office for another 4 years, we will
be standing alone in the world, and countries like Russia, and
China will hold the rest of the world hostage to get what ever they
want. Some might say who cares, but this will likely lead to another
world war. Possibly a nuclear one.

Trump is still denying his own words where he told the Ukrainian
leader that he must investigate Joe Biden and son to get military
aid. Aid that is needed to defend against Russian aggression.

We can only wonder what he told the leader of Turkey just prior
to telling our forces to pull back, and not defend our Kurdish allies. I
have a hunch if that conversation was made public, Trump would be
in more trouble than ever. Because Trump has a lot to loose if the
Turkish leader turned against him. The statement by Trump that
he would shut down the Turkish economy if they go to far, is likely
a lie, because Trump didn't say what would be too far.

Trump claims he is pulling out of Syria to end our involvement in
the middle east. Well how about the thousands he is sending to
Saudi Arabia? Also there is still a thousand  troops near the
fighting between Turkey and the Kurd's.

Even though Trump claims he wants us out, he continues to
support a war Saudi Arabia is having with a neighboring country.
A bipartisan bill passed by both houses of congress men to end this
support was vetoed by Trump. So this shows he has no real plans
to pull us out of the middle east.

A newsman on Fox News resigned, possibly because he didn't
promote Trump and his lies. If so this is unfortunate in that it
gives pause to any reporter of the news to speak out against
the GOP or Trump if they wish to keep their job. All news outlets
should tell the facts, and not promote misleading information,
just to please a corrupt politician.

The Trump administration is trying to say homosexuality is wrong
because it's was started by people of today. Claiming it was rare
in the past. Well as it turns out it was promoted by the Romans
because they felt it would make a stronger fighting force if men
loved each other. It's likely was a common practice throughout
the ancient world.

This business that the Bible talks against homosexuality
only occurs in the Old Testament. A section of the Bible Jesus
taught was no longer the law, replaced by the new testament.

Over the years though, religious teaching still wants to cling
to the old testament in spite of Christs teaching. Conservatives
want to use the old testament selectively. They ignore animal
sacrifices,  and other practices shown there in favor of passages
that  support the believes they wish  to promote.

This is one reason I don't follow major religions as they all have
an agenda that usually is just to benefit themselves. Seems the
larger they are, the more corrupt they are. At least the leaders
can be. It's usually due to money, and what it will buy.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and you can likely
fine a link to  the whistle blowers report as well.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 14, 2019, 01:09:24 pm
As predicted ISIS prisoners are escaping while the Kurd's defend
against the Turkish invasion. The Kurd's had no choice, but to ask
Syria to help them against Turkey. So the Russian backed military
of Syria is moving toward the fight. We can only wonder what will
happen when they meet the Turkish  troops.

Apparently Putin is talking to the Turkish leader about a deal with
Syria. So it would seem Russia will take over now that Trump has
told  our troops to forget the Kurd's and leave. So Trump has handed
Russia the very thing Putin wants. Seemingly more evidence that
Trump is working more for Russia than the United States. Especially
when it comes to foreign policy.

We still have about one thousand soldiers in Syria, and it's going to be
tough if they are surrounded by the fighting. They could come under
attack anytime. Trump the big deal maker should have worked out
a deal with Turkey so the Kurd's could have a peace treaty or to
agree to leave each other alone. No, Trump just backed down, and
walked away from our Kurdish ally who lost thousands fighting to
defeat ISIS. While we mainly gave support from the air. Now there isn't
likely  anyone ready to help get our troops out, and Trump will be
responsible for any deaths or injuries they may suffer while escaping.

More people are testifying in congressional hearings to further the
impeachment inquiry of president Trump. So far evidence continues
to build against Trump. Even though Trump continues trying to lie
his way out of his troubles.

Trump unlike any other president has put his family in white house
jobs. Some with high security ratings, even though they couldn't get
the approval from our intelligence agencie to have those jobs. So
Trump with the power of the presidency gives them the clearance
anyway. Likely because he feels they will be loyal to him, no matter
what he does.

These children of Trump have made millions using Trumps presidency,
while Trump wants to say Joe Biden helped his son make money. There
is no evidence of this, but there is plenty of evidence Trump has help
his family made millions as president.

The bipartisan effort to put sanctions on Turkey for their slaughter of
Kurd fighters and their families is slowly moving through congress. I
have a hunch Trump will veto it, even if it passes both houses.

Apparently Turkey is supporting, and using Al-Qaeda Terrorists as part
of their attack on the Kurd's. Along with Arab's who wish to make the
area their home. Turkey is mainly giveing air support, and artillery
while others do the ground fighting.

The loss of allies in the area will create Syria as a land for Terrorists
to train, and strike out around the world. Trump wants to claim ISIS
has been defeated, but this is a lie. ISIS has terrorist fighters in
many places around the world. The only place they met defeate was
in north Iraq and Syria. Now it's likely all to do over again the next
time they kill abunch of Americans. I have a hunch the Kurd's
won't be much of an ally next time, so it will be up to our troops to
to do most if not all of the fighting. Isreal will likely be a target in
the future, and other middle eastern countries too.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and you can likely
fine a link to  the whistle blowers report as well.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 16, 2019, 12:45:06 pm
Today marks Trumps 1000th day in office. and he is just pitiful.

President Trump  sent the VP to Turkey to make a deal to stop 
the attack on the Kurd's. Now isn't that interesting. Why did
Trump  decide to  wait till Turkey started it's invasion of
Syria to make a deal? Trump could have done this before
telling our soldiers to not protect the Kurd's. Or did the
Turkish leader  mislead Trump. Or did Trump just pull our
troops back to protect his investments inside the country
of Turkey?  Then when Trump  started getting flack
from  his supporters in the senate he decided  to back
up. Trouble is Turkey isn't stopping, even at Trumps
insistence.

Trump has imposed some sanctions on Turkey, not that
much. Apparently  trying to stop congress from putting
really strong sanctions on them instead.

So now the Kurd's have turned to Russia and Syria for
help.  The Russians are moving into our abandoned
bases. To use tax payer facilities. Hard to say what
equipment was left behind. If Trump had planned
properly we could have removed much of our
equipment, instead of giving it away.

Israel is concerned, because the American troops in
Syria were limiting Iran's involvement in Syria. 
Once gone Iran will move in and south toward
Israel.

Trump had a news conference. More of a speech and
rant than anything else. Where he blamed the democrats
or everything, but for breaking the kitchen sink.  It was
full of lies and misleading statements. He even said
farmers were doing great, even  though many are
going bankrupt. He said China was buying produce
from them, even though the deal is yet to be agreed
to.  He loves to  brag on the stock exchange
and said everyone gains when it goes up. This
is a lie as most people  own little if any stocks.

To hear him talk everyone is corrupt but him and the
GOP. This improper use of the word "Corrupt" is Trump
trying to diminish it's meaning. If people hear something
long enough it tends to be lost in the noise, and
people loose interest in it.

Trump continues to  brag on the economy. Claiming
how good it is. Well it is if your rich, and especially
if you own a big business. Trump and the GOP
cut their taxes, even though they weren't
paying that much. Some none at all.  So now
our deficits are climbing ever higher. and if
the GOP gain power, they will cut more
social programs. Because increasing taxes
would cost them support from their rich
donors.

Trump still claims tariffs are paid by those who
sell to us. What he doesn't want to admit is
tax payers of this country pays instead. Because
of the higher prices tariffs put on products we buy.

Trump continues calling the impeachment inquiry
by the democrats unconstitutional. He claims they
need a house vote to make it legal. Well Trump
and his GOP puppets need to  read the
constitution. The speaker of the house
knows this is just a de-version, and Trump
would turn around and claim it was a
partisan vote by the democrats to get
rid of him. Since there would likely b
few GOP votes for it.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 17, 2019, 12:53:39 pm

Elijah Eugene Cummings died last night, and was an American politician
and the member of the U.S. House of Representatives for Maryland's 7th
congressional district.  He was a fine man who worked for the people, and
for the good of the country. He will be greatly missed.

All but 60 members in the house voted to condemn president Trump for
turning his  back on the Kurdish fighters. When asked what his plan was.
Trump said to keep America safe. The speaker responded. That's a goal,
not a plan. It was about that time Trump went into a rant for several
minutes, and never answered the question about a plan.

The GOP tried to say Trump wasn't ranting, it's just his way of talking.
Well it's time Trump grew up and started acting like a proper president,
and not having a temper tantrum trying to get his way. We need a good
honest leader, not a red faced schoolyard bully.

Trump tried to say he personally got rid of ISIS. He didn't get any credit
to those who sacrificed lives, and blood to protect our country. Trump called
his secretary of defense he fired last year, a weak general. Just more  proof
that Trump considers he and only he is smart enough to be president
and even how to run our military.

The Vice president is in Turkey, apparently trying to fix what President Trump
screwed up. There is little evidence so far that the Turkish leader has any plans
to stop. Unless the Kurd's totally surrender. I imagine the leader of Turkey is
listening to Russia more than he is to the U S.

The speaker of the house remarked that she felt Trump paths all lead to
Russia. In the past Trump has claimed the reason for trying to work with
Putin was one of peace. This sounds fine, but how much is Trump wanting
to give Russia for his so called peace, while Russia tries to corrupt the nations
of NATO in hope of it's destruction. Putin has said he wants to recreate the
Soviet Union by pulling it's nations states back into the fold.

I have a feeling Trump was hoping to get out of Syria so he could use it as
a campaign issue he could point to. After all he did promise to get us out
of the middle east when he ran for election. I think he found in reality it's
a lot harder to leave any conflict than he expected. So he decided to  just
walk away, not expecting the flack he got. Especially from the GOP.

The impeachment inquiry is adding more evidence each day that Trump
planned and  worked to have Ukraine come up with a false claim of
corrupt and illegal activities by Joe Biden and his son. Biden who
threatens to defeat Trump in 2020 has Trump fearing he will loos and
is willing to  do anything to remove Biden as an opponent.

So apparently when his plan ran into a wall put up by honest
diplomats, Trump had them removed, and threatened Ukraine if
they didn't go along with this fraud against Biden. Obviously Trump
did not expect the trouble this would cause. Even his work to cover
this up is hurting him in the polls. The last poll is showing 52% agreeing
Trump should not only be impeached, but remove from office.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 18, 2019, 01:10:05 pm

At a news conference at the White house the Acting chief
of staff spilled the beans by telling the press it was normal
to use pressure to get information from a foreign country,
against a political opponent just as Trump did, and people
need to live with it.

Even though this was recorded on camera the white house
tried to claim they didn't say it a few hours later. I have a
hunch the chief of staff is going to the wood shed over
this. Probably even fired. I am sure Trump and the GOP
are hopping mad, because they have been trying to
deny it for a couple weeks now.

The chief of staff also said the G7 meeting next year would
be held at Trumps large Florida resort. This is illegal, no
matter what the GOP or Trump wan to claim. The constitution
does not permit the president to accept money from foreign
countries, and this would likely make Trump millions in
fees paid by foreign leaders. Not counting costs to our
government.

sIt would seem the VP managed to stop Turkey's advance
into northern Syria for the time being. Trump as usual is
calling it a win. He doesn't care about all the deaths his
dumb decision caused. Or the fact this so called safe
zone will likely give ISIS a place to regrow. Because
most of those Turkey want to live in this zone are
themselves radicals and terrorists that The Turkish
leader wants out of the country.

Trump tried to relate this to a schoolyard fight, well
when people are dragged out of cars and buses,
including children, and executed, is nothing like
a school yard brawl.

This isn't just war, it's criminal in nature, and in my opinion Trump
 is responsible for it. Perhaps  he should be required to pay reparations
out of his own pocket, but that will never happen. If anything was
paidit would be by taxpayers of course.

Trump may see a softening of support from the Evangelical
community as his decision has caused the deaths of Syrian
Christians, and puts many more at risk. It may hurt his
support from Jews as well, because the vacuum created
by our  leaving will give Iran a chance to threaten Israel
from bases in Syria.

The impeachment inquiry continues to show how Trump's
 illegal actions were meant to harm his political opponents.
Every person testifying in congress just ads to the evidence
of Trump's guilt. This is going to make it all the tougher
for GOP senators when their  decision is required to
remove Trump or not.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 19, 2019, 11:26:29 am
Trump tried to say the Kurd's were happy with the deal he made
with Turkey. Well I hardly think so. This statement by Trump is
like a guy saying his wife is happy after he gave her a good
beating.

Trump has no concept of how the president is supposed to do
the job. He thinks he is above the law, and only cares about
his rich supporters, and voters. Then only if they stay loyal to
him. His voters need to wake up and see  Trump for what he is.
A self-serving con artist. A man  who cares only for himself and
his family, and I am not even sure about the family.

These statements from the white house just show Trump
thinks the Ukraine business is proper, just as he thinks
making money as president is alright, and the constitution
is only there to protect him, the president.

People voted for Trump feeling he would remove corruption,
from government. I don't think they wanted a corrupts president
like Trump instead. Perhaps they still support him, not wanting to
admit they made a mistake.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 20, 2019, 12:35:08 pm

Trump has backed down on having the G7 summit at his
big Florida resort. He is blaming the Democrats, and the
news media for his loss. The latest plan is at Camp David,
which is a presidential retreat. Where Trump won't likely
get any money out of it.  Of course Trump may try to
move it again. So time will tell.

Well there is an interesting turn of events in the middle east.
Instead of our troops coming home, Trump is moving them
to Iraq. Why? Trump say's it's to keep ISIS out of there. So
what happened to ISIS going to  Europe? Trump is also
sending more troops to Saudi Arabia. So all this Talk by
Trump to get us out of the middle east is just more of his
lies. He is still tweeting soldiers are coming home. Well
probably due to troop rotation more than anything else.

Trump is trying to divert attention to Joe Biden and son
hoping to move the media away from the mess he made
in Syria. The trouble is, this mess is likely going to  spread
through out the middle east. The Kurd's were creating a
home of sorts in northern Syria, but to please the Turkish
leader, Trump turned everything upside down.

Trump will likely blame Islam for any new attacks by
ISIS. These people are using old radical ideas to create
a power for themselves. So it's likely they will continue
trying to grow. I fear Trump will want to punish Islamic
people here with his lies. Especially if there are attacks 
by ISIS in the U S.

The state department cleared H Clinton about her emails after
another investigation. It's time the GOP and Trump get on with
the countries business and stop these dumb attacks. H. Clinton
isn't running for anything. Same for the media, this is old news.
The email business was a con job by Trump.

Talking about emails, Trump's children who are working in the
white house have deleted hundreds of emails when they were
supposed to have been archived. Why doesn't the media harp
on that now and then?

The problem with the national News media is they are always
trying to compete with each other, and work to gain attention.
So they post anything that stirs up  interest, even if it's not good
for the country. It would be nice if a  non partisan news outlet
could compete for the public good, and not for some  politician,
or party.  Fox news is supported by a multi  billionaire who
thinks the GOP and Trump are doing a great job. So they
can just spread anything, as long as it helps the GOP and
Trump. This gives the freedom of the press a black eye.

There is no such thing as fair reporting, news should be
about the facts, and not to please people, corrupt
politicians or leaders. This is how strong man governments
operate. They force the News outlets to protect them. Unless
we work to put  honest people in government, we will end up
being like Russia, China or any other place that has no freedom
of speech, or anything else. People who think having one man
running things is good. Will likely wish otherwise in the end.

The GOP and Trump continue to complain about the democrats
and the impeachment inquiry. This is them just trying to protect
Trump and their party. Not the constitutions or the country. It's
time we hold the GOP responsible for allowing President Trump
to get by with his crimes, and connections to Russia.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Also to the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 21, 2019, 01:00:21 pm

The partisan supreme court supports Gerrymandering by the
GOP. In a ruling today they said it wasn't the business of federal
courts to stop this or decide wither it discriminated racially or not.
They ruled it was political only. I think we can expect more partisan
rulings as we go forward, because of a 5 to 4 political advantage in
the court.

It's been the desire of the GOP for many years to have a solid
conservative right wing advantage in the supreme court. In
past they would cry the democrats are packing the court each
time they put a moderate on the court, yet they the GOP
always put right wing conservatives there. They know
moderates won't always agree with them.

So it will be left to each state to allow Gerrymandering or
not. We can be sure the GOP will create voting districts
that will help keep the GOP in power when ever they can.

The GOP works hard to support the rich, and the big
corporations.  They call democrats the Tax and Spend
party, while the GOP just cut taxes for the riches
Americans. People who give millions to  support the
republican party. The rich always want to   claim
they make jobs, but never want to pay, or give 
workers a  fair deal. This is why we have unions.
To protect workers from greed.

People tend to vote  for the GOP with their promises
of jobs and lower  taxes. But deficits climb  each
time the GOP takes  power. While they want to
blame the other party and social programs when
the  government  runs  short of money. So when
the democrats return to  power they have to 
raise taxes, while  the GOP  points and puts
the blame on anyone  but themselves. 

Now Trump is worried about ISIS, even though he claimed they
would head for Europe. So now he is leaving a very small force
(about 200) of American soldiers to keep ISIS from taking
possession  of a Syrian oil field. He even said the Kurd's would
help  us. Now isn't that interesting. Trump, who turned his back
on the  Kurd's wants their help? Somehow, I don't think they 
will have the time.

So when they don't help as much as Trump wants, he will likely
start calling them ungrateful and other bad names. Seems that
is always what Trump does when people do things he doesn't like.
To call people names. Just like a schoolyard bully would.

The GOP in the house are wanting to remove the chairman
of the Judicial  committee, because he won't give into their
demand to stop investigating Trump unfairly. Now isn't that
interesting. I am sure if it was a democrat in the white house
the GOP would be working overtime to impeach him or her if
they did what Trump has. They wanted to  impeach President
Clinton for telling one lie, Trump has told over 12,000. But the
GOP publicly ignore them, because they are afraid to speak
out against Trump.

The son of the Evangelist Billy Graham said Trumps work to
bring about a cease fire was good in that it help protect
Syrian Christians, and supports Trump again. Even though
it's likely the Arab radicals supported by Turkey are still
killing women and  children. I doubt if they are asking
if they are Christian or not. I have a hunch his father
would not support a man like Trump. In fact he was
non partisan unlike his son apparently is.

The truth is, many of the leaders of the Evangelical
movement are greedy power hungry con artists. I
think they best hope there isn't a god, because they
would  have a lot of explaining to do. And I doubt a
god could be lied to. Something Trump should think
about.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it. Also to the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 22, 2019, 01:41:25 pm
The violence continues against the Kurd's, no matter what
Trump wants to claim. Trump is totally responsible for this
by giving the leader of Turkey his approval to invade Syria.

If we leave Afghanistan the same way, thousands will  die
at the hands of Alquaeeda, and ISIS. These people wish
to use radical laws of Islam to control women and have
total power over the people. We should give people who
supported us a way out, just as we did when we left
Viet Nam.

President Trump is trying to call his impeachment a
lynching. Trump can say what he wants, but if anyone
is guilty of a lynching it's Trump in the way he treats
the constitution.

He claims the constitution allows him to receive money
or other things of value from  foreigners. But the constitution
planely states a president cannot. Or receive any payment
other than his duly assigned salary.

Trump also claims the house of representatives doesn't
have the right to have oversight of his actions. It has
every right to investigate what he does, in-spite of his
wishes to cover, and hide all that he does.

Trump just doesn't seem to understand he isn't a CEO
of the country, but a president that must follow the laws
of the land. I feel the GOP is just as guilty as Trump in
that they look the other way when Trump breaks the laws
and the constitution. It's time for the voters to punish
both the GOP and Trump during the next election. If
they don't, we will lose our democracy in favor of an
autocracy. Where the president can punish anyone
at his every whim. That includes stepping on the
rights of the people. Just as the leaders of every
other country like Russia, China, and North Korea
do to their people.

That might sound okay to hard line conservatives,
but they won't for long, because when you give
power like that to a human being they will use it
to please themselves and no one else.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 23, 2019, 12:48:07 pm
Yesterday a ambassador who was sent to Ukraine by the Trump
state department spoke in a hearing at the house of representatives.
He basically verified that Trump was holding up aid to Ukraine until
their new president started a fake investigation about Joe Biden
and his son.

Trump continues to lie about the problems he caused in Syria. The
Kurd's are having to run for their lives while Turkey invades their
Holmes. Many women, and children have fallen victim and are
being killed. Not just Kurdish fighters. At least 100 ISIS prisoners
are at large in the area.

It has been the plan of the Turkish leader for years to push the
Kurd's out of Syria and away from Turkey's boarders.

Russia has made a deal with Turkey to patrol the boarders to
keep Kurd's and other undesirables out of the so called safe
zone that Turkey is creating. In the mean time Turkey is moving
millions of Arab refugees into the area evacuated by the Kurd's.

After all this Trump is declaring victory for himself. To here him
talk only he was able to get our troops out of Syria, yet we are
staying to protect oil fields from ISIS. We should wonder why
we have to if others are to take care of ISIS. He didn't say how
many troops ill stay in the area, Syria, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia.
All this when before Trump decided to withdraw was relatively
stable with ISIS contained. Trump said Turkey would hold ISIS
prisoners from escaping.  This when Turkey did little or nothing
to stop ISIS in the past. So what incentive do they have to hold
them now?

Trump tried to say the Kurd's are happy about how everything
turned out. I really don't think the tens of thousands are happy
camping out in the desert, cold and hungry, because of Trump. 
As usual Trump paints a picture he wants everyone to believe.
I am sure during his next rally he will give big cheers when he
tells this story that is full of misleading statements and lies.

Trump even said Turkey would make sure Syrian Christians
would be protected. Well I really don't think Turkey worries
about Christians, or they would have stopped people
going to join ISIS in the past. People who would kill
any Christian they might find.

The U S is the looser with Russia and Iran
gaining a foothold in Syria where they can
spread their influence through out the middle
ease. While it is true we should try to get out
of the middle east, but in a responsible manor
and not walk away leaving our allies to die.

President Trump follows his game plan of "Deny, Delay, and Divert."
Something he has done most of his life. When he paid a 25 million
dollar settlement right after he was elected. He knew having a active
law suit in the news would likely make him look bad. Otherwise I am
sure those people would still be fighting for a settlement.

The three D's that Trump lives by. I am sure some of his supporters
think this is smart, but if they were the ones wanting justice from
Trump, they would likely feel different.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 24, 2019, 12:42:31 pm

I think it's interesting how the GOP and Trump claim
it's unfair to have hearings in secret. I guess they want
to forget how they worked in secret to get their big tax
cut passed, and when they tried to get rid of the ACA.
They didn't even allow any democrats in the room. Where
in the hearings there are GOP members included.

Even though the democrats are playing by the rules, the
GOP and Trump want the public to think otherwise. These
hearings are kept behind closed doors trying to prevent
witnesses from changing their stories to match others. I
am sure if in these closed door hearings the GOP heard
anything that wasn't true, they would be on Fox News
spilling their guts about it. So far all they are doing is
complaining about the investigation of their king by 
democrats,  not about what they are hearing from
witnesses.

Even though the fighting goes on against the Kurd's by
Turkish backed fighters. Trump claims they are happy.
Trump claims it's fine for the Russians to take over Syria,
and make a deal with Turkey. Perhaps we should consider
kicking Turkey out of NATO if they wish to ally with
the Russian bear.

The GOP may want to keep quiet about Russian
expansion, in support of Trump, but doing so
will lead to more instability of the region, the
world, and will diminish our National  security.

An unruly mob of GOP members forced their way
into a secure room to prove to Trump their King that
they will do anything to protect him. Even to break
their oath of office, and house ethic rules. Not only
did they come into a secure room with their unsecured
cell phones. It shows their disregard for our national
security by doing so.

I think the speaker should have everyone of these
members Ventured for their flagrant disregard of
their oath of office and house rules. I am sure if
the democrats had tried this with the GOP in
power, they would have jumped all over them.

It was reported that Trump approved this illegal
action, so I guess they didn't want to be called
"Never Trump Scum" if they refused. A word
Trump used to  describe some one who testified
the facts as he knew them about  Trump's self
serving political acts against Ukraine. Even apparently
trying to help Russia to succeed in taking control
of that country by with holding aid.

Seems the GOP and Trump are more interested in
keeping power than protecting our national security.
More proof that they need to be voted out of office in
2020. 

The leaders of the Evangelical movement have been
preaching to their membership that Trump is a
virtual gift from god, and they must support him so
God  won't turn his back on us all. It's been the
plan of the Evangelical leadership for years to use
Christianity to grow rich, and gain political power
by misleading their followers. In doing this they
are turning their backs on the teaching of Christ.
Who preached we should love our fellow man,
look after the poor, and especially children.

So by supporting Trump, a man who treats
immigrant  children worse than animals,
should look at their leadership with suspicion
when they call Trump a gift from god.

Trump a man who stands at his rally's
using filthy language just to get cheers
from those he has misled. Wanting them
to think he is working for them. Trump
will say anything  including lies. A man
like Trump teaches people they must
cheat, and  lie to succeed in life.  A
terrible example  to our  children, the
leaders of tomorrow.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 25, 2019, 01:09:33 pm
Elijah Eugene Cummings funeral was held today, a man who was an American
politician and the member of the U.S. House of Representatives for Maryland's
7th congressional district.  He was a fine man who worked for the people, and
for the good of the country. He will be greatly missed.

Some probably think I hate president Trump, but I don't. What
I don't like is what he does, and his refusal to do the job he was
elected to do. As a man he is a pathetic individual who we can pity,
and has no compassion for his fellow human beings. Sadly, he
won't likely ever change, possibly due to mental defect.

Attorney general Barr has started a criminal investigation of the
Justest department. Apparently following Trump's desire to prove
the Russian's did not help him get elected. Either Trump is trying
to protect the Russian leader for his future benefit, or it's because he
just can't accept the fact he needed help to win.

It may just be another diversion, where Trump hopes the media will
stop talking so much about the impeachment inquiry. Also Trump will
use it as a talking point in his campaign. Because this investigation
could last beyond the 2020 election. In the meantime  many individuals
career's could be harmed because of Trump's need  to be vindicated. 
As I said he cares nothing for others, but himself.

This political attack on our justest system to benefit Trump and the GOP
is damaging to our system of justice. There is no place for politics in the
department of justice. Trump's attorney general appears to think he
must protect the president, even though it's makes him and  and his
justice department lawyers look rather foolish in court.

I am  sure Trump isn't getting much sleep with the polls showing even
more  support for his impeachment and removal. It's close to 50/50
now and  could be a majority soon. Those in the GOP still support
him,  yet even there he is slipping a bit, and more with independents, 
who show 53% in favor of removal.

I think Trump will spend more time attacking his opponents, and
the democratic party, than anything else over the next year. Other
than doing damage to our environment, and cutting taxes for the
richest Americans, he has done little while president. When asked
why he has done so little, he blames the democrats, and anyone
else who has opposed him. The real problem is his ego. The far
right only needs to call him up, and tell him not to compromise,
because he will do anything to keep the appearance that he is a
winner, and is working for his supporters.

So he sits and watches Fox news, a outlet who gives him strong
support. Their support,  and the cheers he gets at his rally's
feeds  his ego. I think he leaves his rally's thinking America
loves him. If he had spent the same  amount of time doing
his job as he has looking for praise, he might have been a
better president.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 26, 2019, 12:53:48 pm

It seems Microsoft got a 10 billion dollar defense contract 
to set up cloud servers for the military, and were chosen
over Amazon.  Since Trump has been trying to  hurt Amazon
because  they own the Washington Times, a news outlet that
won't  lie for him. There is suspicion that Trump told the
defense  department to not use Amazon. Trump had said
in the past  he didn't want Amazon to get the contract. 
It very well  could be Microsoft got the contract legitimately,
but it needs to be looked into.

Trump is moving more troops to Syrian oil fields. I guess he
thought the Kurd's would do it, but he probably found out
that they had other concerns to deal with. Like saving the
lives of their families.

Trump is saying he might sell Syrian oil to pay for our
involvement there. The problem is this breaks international
laws, and is just nothing but theft. Calling it spoils of war
doesn't work except for mercenaries.


The GOP are still trying to claim the Democrats are treating
Trump unfairly. They want to hide the fact they had private 
hearings  when they were attacking H. Clinton. This is nothing
more than hypocrisy by the GOP.  They seem to  fear Trump
and his tweets, so they work to  please him. Even  though
it makes them look  like hypocrites who are  willing to  break
their oath of office to get a pat on the  head from their king.

The GOP stand and complain, when the Democrats are following
the very rules the GOP wrote in 2015, when they were in power.
Of course they want to forget about that.

It is rather amazing what Trumps lawyers are willing to do for
him. The same for Justice department lawyers. They all act like
a bunch of puppets on a string. We can only wonder why. Perhaps
they are betting if they save their boss, their rewards will be
really great. They are taking a big risk though, because if
Trump is gone so will his support, and their careers could
be ruined. Also if they are expecting a big reward, Trump
will likely make them sue to  get it.

If you think otherwise, Trump owes millions in debt to cities
across the country. Money to pay for security, and fees to
cover other expenses incurred with his rally's, and presidential
visits. They are trying to sue Trump, but his lawyers fight
saying Trump as president can't be sued.

Some of these debts date back before Trump was elected. It
just shows how much of a cheap crook  he is. He, and the
GOP have over 100 million for campaign expenses, but they
don't have dollar one to pay his debts. I really don't know how
Trump gets anyone to work for him, because this habit of not
paying bills isn't new.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 27, 2019, 12:54:14 pm
The world should be glad to know the current leader of ISIS has
been taken out by U S special operation forces. I think we should
give these people all the credit for doing a job that was very
dangerous, and well  done. It would been good if he could have
been captured instead, but that was hardly possible.

Though president Trump is claiming this was all about his
ability as a tough leader to get the job done. He just couldn't
help but politicize it as he went into great detail talking about
the raid. He should have just stated the man was killed, give
credit to those responsible, and  left  the details to the defense
department. I am sure Trump  is going to brag about  this at
his rally's. Even to say this was  bigger than the killing of
 Ben Lauden under Obama. 

It's  likely ISIS already has a new leader, and  he may even
be a  better one as the last one was more of a  killer than a
planner.  Also I rather doubt he died begging, and crying as
Trump  claimed. This demeaning tactic by Trump  could make
ISIS more dangerous in the short run.

Especially if Trump continues saying the man was crying.
Something I wouldn't be surprised to here him say at his
rally's. Because I really don't think they are scared of
anyone. Much less beg from mercy.

Trump and his followers should understand ISIS is an
idea, not a cult following. The defeat of ISIS may take
a generation or more to defeat. No matter what Trump
wants to  claim.

This is an symbolic victory over terrorism, but hardly the end.
Of course the GOP want to point to  their king, and say how
this shows him to be a fine leader  and president. But it hardly
excuses all of his criminal acts of the past. Trump and the GOP
should leave politics at home. The country needs to stand as
one when working abroad, be it in war or against terrorism.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 28, 2019, 12:56:41 pm
Trump continues trying to block impeachment proceedings
in the house of representatives. So the judicial committee
is letting Trump know, when he blocks information or people
from investigative hearings. It will be considered as a sign of
guilt by the president, and added to the articles of
impeachment.

It turns out there was no direct audio coming in from
the raid to kill the ISIS leader. So we have to  wonder
just how much crying from said leader was real, or a
fabrication by Trump. After all there were 3 others who
died when the leader set off his wearable bomb.

There is a report that the attack dog who was injured
during the raid, is doing well. So it's obvious the dog
wasn't very close to the leader when he blew himself
up. The story about the dog normally would be classified,
as well as how the helicopters flew. Seemingly innocent
details can give our enemies a edge in the future. What
Trump uses to show off, could harm our troops. 

Trump used the excuse for not telling the Democrats,
because he  expected they would leak the raid. Trump
should  look at himself, his staff, and GOP members
he talks to. who might be leaking  what he talks about.
He even uses a unsecured phone making calls to friends
and supporters. Who can say what he leaks to people he
considers loyal to him. What  does he tell China, or Russia.
We know he loves to brag.

In Chicago today Trump spoke to members of law enforcement.
Yet a big part of his speech was as expected, about the raid
on ISIS. Even blaming Obama for not killing the leader first.
I am sure this raid will be a big part of his political speeches
over the next few months. Especially if it helps him in the polls.

I really don't understand why people want to give Trump
so much credit for something that was obviously planned
and  executed by others. The only part he had, was to say
go do it. So when he brags on himself over it, he is actually
taking away from the hero's  who actually did the job. Heck
the dog did more than Trump did.

It will  be  interesting to  see who if anyone benefits  from
the oil he is moving troops  into Syria to protect.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 29, 2019, 01:09:07 pm
We are drawing ever closer to the primaries, so we will
soon know who the public really wants to run against
Trump. I think VP Joe Biden is likely the current favorite,
but this could chage if he doesn't take the early lead.

Trump apparently fears that Biden can defeat him, with
his failed attempt to get Ukraine to hurt Biden politically.
So we can expect more attacks against Biden from
Trump.

The house of representatives is planning to have
a vote to start formal impeachment of president
Trump. To soon start public hearings as well. This
will make it all the more difficult for the GOP to
continue their defense of Trump.

Trump, one of the first presidents in a century that
doesn't have a dog. Ope well of the military
attack dog who was injured during the raid. Trump
even wants to see the dog at the white house
when possible.  Dog's can usually sense
a person who doesn't like them, or one who
is bad in character. So I think Trump best use
caution if he tries to pet this dog. He could get a
unpleasant reaction from the dog. Attack dogs
generally aren't friendly pets for anyone but
their trainer.

Trump attended a world series baseball game
in Washington DC. When his picture was shown
on the giant video screen, he was not only booed,
they chanted "Lock Him Up". Apparently Trump.
was taken aback, by this turn of events. As if he
was surprised that he wasn't shown affection by
the crowd as he is at his rally's.

We know those at his rally's are told if someone
shows opposition to Trump, they are to shout this
person down, and wave their signs. Until security
comes to remove the offending person.

It seems those who work for Trump do their best to
make Trump feel he is loved by everyone. Except by
democrats  of course. We can only wonder how far
this goes. Trump always claims everyone agrees with
him. So keeping Trump in his bubble of love, and
not what's true is  likely done on
purpose.

Some have said there was more evidence against Nixon, due
the tapes. Well I am sure if there was a voice record of Trump
in the oval office, he would be done on both sides, and leaving
in handcuffs and leg Irons.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 30, 2019, 12:32:54 pm

Trumps GOP puppets are working hard to please
their king, no matter how foolish it makes them
look. Members of Congress, and  lawyears all. We
can only wonder what threats or promises Trump
uses to get their loyalty and support. Could it be
a bribe? It's doubtful, sinse Trump hates to give
money away. Of course a bribe can be many other
things, but we may never know.

Trump continues to hide information while claiming
innocence. He cries, I am the best president ever,
and to remove me would be a crime. Not his exact
words, but it's how he wants us all to think. If he
is so perfect and innocent, let him prove it with facts
anbd not with his lies, or his parties excuses.

If anything Trump is the worst president we have
ever had, no matter what he says. He is a selfserving 
con artist, and the sooner he is gone the better off
we all will be. I am sure the far right want him to
stay, because he does their bidding, good or bad.

When a president calls a man who has served our
country faithfully all his life rude names, and lies
about him. Just to protect himself, it's time to look at
that president and wonder. What else has he done for
his own good and not the country. Even if he has done
a few good things. If we start excusing people for bad
things, because they did good. Where will it end, what
about those who were harmed?

Mob bosses often gave money to the needy, Just to
get a good name by the local population. Then turn
around and do terrible things to benefit themselves.
even if a criminal does good things. People
need  to remember, a criminal is a criminal, and
by supporting them, makes supporters equally
guilty. Not for the good, but for the bad.

Trump has said he could kill someone and not
loose votes from his supporters. This statement
and others should have disqualified him to run
for the office of president.  No matter how many
people want to vote for him. If the GOP were
truly patriotic, they would have  told Trump
and his supporters, we cannot accept  such
a man for the high office of president. The
GOP will always have the name Trump as
an anchor against any claim of morality.

Trump should have been forced to  run as
an indepentdent. Yes it's likely the GOP
would have lost elections over this, but
sometimes people have to  do whats right
and not whats good for a party. The GOP
would have survived, and they could have
stood proud, and not with shame.

The impeachment of Trump will continue
inspite of what Trump or his puppets in the
GOP want. He won't likely be removed by
senators who care more about being a
senator than the country. Hopefully there
will be at least a majority vote against
Trump in the end.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 31, 2019, 12:57:52 pm

today the house of representatives is voting to have public
hearings for the impeachment inquiry of President Trump.
So now the GOP who moaned and groaned because of all
the closed hearings. They are now claiming the rule changes
to be voted on are unfair, even though they give the GOP
and Trump the ability to bring their own witnesses in
defense of the president, as long as they are credible.

The GOP complains about closed hearings, yet in
fact they  created the rules for closed hearings so
they could have them. and they had them when in
were in power. The leader  of the senate said they
were in  power, so live with it. We heard the same
thing from the white house.

Turns out Trump has been on the phone calling GOP
members who might vote with the democrats. With
threats and bribes, because he doesn't want any
GOP member voting with the democrats. Perhaps
so he can call it a partisan witchhunt. Trump can
put on his pointed hat, because it's about him.

The vote for the new rules passed, so the
GOP and Trump must live with it.

It will likely be around 2 weeks before we see
any public hearings, but for those interested,
most of it will be on daytime TV. I am sure across
the nation, every TV in a public place will be tuned
in. This is what Trump and the GOP are afraid of.
As with any autocrat like Trump, can only existst
by controling the news, and hiding the facts.

We can be sure the GOP and Trump will be doing
all they can to make these public hearings look
like a circus. The GOP and Trump claim they want
fairness, but all they do is lie and mislead  to
protect Trump, their king.

This is how a man like Russias Putin stays in
power. When the public learns the truth, a
leader like him has to fight to stay.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 01, 2019, 12:52:36 pm

Trump is moving his official residence to Florida. He complained New
York was treating him badly, even though he pays them millions in
taxes. Of course Trump doesn't want anyone including his supporters
to know how much he pays in taxes. Until his tax records are made
public, we only have his word, and his word means nothing as he
constantly lies.

Trump tells his supporters he is pulling our troops out of the middle
east, but it's a lie. Thousands of our soldiers continue to serve there.
Even more moving to Saudia Arabia, and about 1000 in Syria to protect
oil fields there. Why not let Trumps Russian buddies watch the oil? I
have a hunch Trump thinks we can sell the oil for the U S, but that would
make us look like crooks in the region.

The GOP want's people to think the Democrats are only working to get
rid of Trump and nothing else. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
The Democrats have passed over 100 bills, many of which lay in the
GOP controlled senate who do nothing, but put conservative judges
in federal courts. Judges who care little for the LGBTQ, and the
common man over big business.

During the first two years when the GOP controlled everything they did
little, but try to get rid of the ACA, and cut taxes for the rich. The GOP
when Obama was in the white house did very little except complain about
the ACA. So they have absolutely no room to claim the Democrats do nothing,
when the GOP does nothing, but help the rich. 

Some people might say the impeachment of Trump is just the Democrats
wanting to get rid of him. People need to remember the constitution isn't
a republican or Democrat document. It's for everyone. If The GOP wants
to turn their back on their oath of office in support of their king. That is
up to them. If they wish to put party over their oath that is their problem.
The Democrats represent people who care about the constitution, unlike
the GOP and Trump apparently want to use the constitution when it
benefits them, and not when it doesn't.

They work  hard to mislead people to gain power. They could change election
laws to vastly reduce the expense of being elected to congress, but they want
to keep it under the control of the riches Americans. It's the desire of the GOP
to make our country for and about the rich, and let the poor depend on handouts
or starve, and if sick, die. If you think not just look at the record, the GOP cut
programs for the needy every chance they get.

It's the attitude of the rich that will eventually move our country to  socialism.
Why? Because by working to increase profits for businesses, they increase the
number of poor and needy people across the nation. They don't promote the
free market system, but just the opposite. Working to cut competition when
ever possible. Complain about regulations that hurt big business profits, then
turn around to create regulations that make it harder for small business to
survive. Especially if they threaten the profitability of big business.

In some cases big business can lower the cost of products, but they are
run by humans, and unfortunately subject to greed. This why it's always
better to have a lot of smaller businesses, and not a few in number of
very large corporations. Big business can drive small businesses into
bankruptcy by artificially lowering prices so much the small business
can't compete. This is why monopoly laws were created.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 02, 2019, 01:00:18 pm

Trump has sent 14,000 troops to the middle east since may of this
year. While still claiming he is pulling troops out. His decision to
let Turkey and Russia remove the Kurd's from northern Syria his
created a worse  problem. Now he sends armoured troops to Syrian
oil fields, claiming they are there to keep them from ISIS, when the
Kurds had ISIS controlled already. Inspite of Trumps claimes, Turkey has
helped ISIS over the years. So we can't depend on them ore Russia to
contain  them. So we have Trumps genius requiring even more troops
to be sent to the middle east.


After over 12,000 lies Trump seems to think people should believe him
when he claims innocence. Even though several of his top campaign
workers have either gone to jail, or have been indicted. Does this
sound like a man who is working to stop corruption as he claims?
If he was worried about corruption, why would he hire so many
corrupt people to work for him? Sure anyone can make a mistake,
But over the last 3 years he has hired even more corrupt individuals
that have resigned because they were caught being corrupt. Not by
Trump, but by people checking on suspicious acts by them.

If Trump was the only problem, we possibly could just let the voters
decide, but he is the head of a party that has been corrupted by him.
A party that works through it's own members to protect him and not the
country. Not to even stand by their oath of office, but for their own
benefit. So we must hold those party members a countable too. If
we the people stand by, and allow this corruption to stand, our
democracy is at risk, because other corrupt people will follow.
So let us all vote to show this corrupted party they must either
be disbanded, or reformed.

The GOP has a habit of crying foul if they don't get their way. To
even claim there could be a civil war if they don't get what they
want. They seem to think hate is a plan they must use if nothing
else works. Even president Nixon, a man who had the decency to
resign, rather than fight,, because he loved the country, and the
people. Trump on the other had only cares about himself, not his
party, or the country, except for the money he can make being
president.

Even with the economy slowing, Trump claims we are having
the greatest economy ever. Trump fails to mention that many
people have to work 2 jobs just to make ends meet, because
one doesn't pay enough. Trump doesn't talk about cutting the
minimum wage, that the GOP and he wants to do. The longer
Trump is in office, the harder it will be for people to even have
a home to live in. The GOP and he claim they want to stop
abortion, but cut medicade care for children, even resulting in
the deaths of many.

Trump claims he loves democracy, but works against it every
day. Claiming the democrats are the problem, not him. He
may have the support of his cult following, but I think people
who don't live in Trumps bubble of disbelief will vote for anyone
but Trump in 2020. People in his rally's are a hard core following
who will travel a great distance just to see their King. If Trump
thinks they represent most voters, he is in for a big shock.

I fully expect Trump to claim if he looses the election
it is invalid, and will expect the supreme court and
the GOP to back him up. That is why hopefully his
loss will be big enough to shut him down permanently. 


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 03, 2019, 01:02:33 pm
Trump still wants to know who the whistle blower is. Just
so he can bad mouth him or her. There isn't any reason
other than that. Trump runs anyone down who tells the
truth about him. He just wants loyalty, and nothing else
fom people who work for him. No matter what he does.

Trump stands in his rally's telling one lie after another.
Telling his followers that the Democrats are after them,
because they are after him. He should stand there and
own up to his greed, and ask them to forgive him. Tell
the truth for once. Of course he won't, because they
would turn against him.

Trump claims the deep state  is at fault, well I have
news for him, it's his greed  and his rich cronies who
are at fault. Many of them may end up in prison if he
looses in 2020. Including himself.

His Attorney General won't do anything that would hurt
Trump. He blocks investigations, and starts others if his
boss Trump wants them. Personally I think Barr should
be indicted as well. A man who seems to think the president
can do no wrong. Even his lawyers tried to tell a judge Trump
is immune from any of our laws.

Trump is trying to claim it was Ukraine and not Russia that
hacked into the DNC. This is obviously Trump trying to protect
Putin of Russia, and make a excuse for his treatment of Ukraine.
Because the Mueller Report shows it was Russia under the control
of Putin who did the hacking after Trump asked them to do it.

Many people seem to think Nationalism is a good thing for
the country. Well if we were on a planet alone it might be
a good thing, but we live on a planet with many nations.
Nations we must get along with. No longer can we point
to big oceans for our protection. Also many of our businesses
depend on trade with other nations. We like going to Walmart,
or Amazon for cheap prices. Well if we stand alone prices will
double in many cases. Because we as a people want high pay
for their work. This isn't always the case, but mostly it is.

We should strive to make all people have a good life, not just
to make a few very rich. The GOP and Trump especially consider
the poor ignorant leeches on society. Until societies riches are
more in balance our country is at risk, just as it was during
the great depression of the 1930's.

A shirt, or pair of pants made by people making 50 grand a
year, would cost a lot more than someone making 5 grand a
year as many far east workers do. Think 50 grand is a good
wage? Well with a family, just add up housing, insurance,
food, utilities,  transportation, and clothing. You will find
after taxes you  would run out of money before all bills
were paid.

This of course applies for city living, but even people
living in rural areas still want to be able to have nice
things. To live what a lot of people call the American
dream takes at least 100 grand a year. Because the
people want more money, and more things. In the
past many people worked hard for little money. I had
a friend who used to live in Seattle, Washington. He
said businesses there would hire people from the middle
of the country first, because they were harder workers.

When I was in school we were taught with a good education
we might make 100 grand during our working life. How things
have changed. Many new homes cost 1/2 million dollars, and
new cars 50 grand or more. It's no wonder why so many people
have to work 2 jobs, and in many cases both parents. I remember
during the 1960's first seeing this, and thought how hard it would
be to raise a family.

Our politicians seem to not care, especially the GOP. They do
nothing to reduce prices, or provide child care for desperate
parents. Education helps, but there aren't enough jobs that
pay enough, even if everyone had a college degree. We need
more trade schools, and a minimum income. Also national health
care for all. Not just for those who can afford it.

We must go after the super rich and make them pay their share.
They shouldn't be able to  sit back and take advantage of the rest
of us, just because they were fortunate in business, or by an
inheritance.  They use the  infrastructure we all paid for to make
money, so let them help pay the bills. If we don't have a strong
middle class, their  businesses will have to cut prices to survive.
Because if we are all poor, their products won't sell.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 04, 2019, 12:55:12 pm

Trump is still claiming California isn't keeping their forests clean. Well
let's hand Trump a rake, and tell him to go for it. It's ridiculous to say
forests must be cleaned. It would take thousands of people working
full time to keep forests clean of flammable debris. Trump is just wanting
to punish California because they didn't vote for him, and likely caused
him to loose the popular vote. This vindictive attitude that Trump has is
part of why he has no business being president. I have a hunch home
owners in California won't take kindly to his threats of cutting federal
aid they need.

Trump's supporters should ask why he is building a wall people can cut
through with a 100 dollar saw. If you don't believe it, it's already happening.
The boarder patrols found a sawed opening where apparently drug smugglers
made their way into the U S. So Trump's multi billion dollar barrier is a waste
of tax dollars if it's designed to stop drug traffic. You can be sure those bringing
illegal aliens into the country will use the same method.

I think the drug dealers, and those bringing people into the country are a
lot smarter then our so called genius president.

Trump is calling anyone testifying in congress a "Never Trumper". Well as a
never Trumper myself, I take my hat off to them. If Trump is so innocent he
has nothing to fear from the truth. If any of these people are not being honest,
Trump should be ready to show the proof. The problem is Trump doesn't
want people to believe in the facts. He has spent his life attacking anyone
who doesn't agree with him, either in public or in court, and with his money
most  people have to give up, and let  him win by default. I think Trump is
wanting to follow the same plan as president. So far he and his under paid
lawyers  are loosing in court. So I imagine he thinks the people he put on
the supreme  court will stand by him in the end.
 
If the GOP and Trump had their way, they would privatize social security,
medicare, medicate, and health care for Veterans. According to them all
these programs should be dealt with by the states or private enterprise.

They know it would not be possible for the states or the private sector
to provide the funding  for these programs, but they don't care. They
don't want to raise taxes  on the rich to pay for  them. So they tell
the public these programs will  bankrupt the country. This from a GOP
controlled congress who has been  borrowing money  for years to
cover deficits, because they care more  about the rich than  anyone
else.

Trump is trying to tell people in his administration that the
Democrats are just bullying them, and they don't have to
show up at a hearing, even though it means defying a
lawful subpoena. 

I wish the Democrats would start fining these people that fail to
show up at the hearings because Trump said not to. I think that
would get their attention. Trump might claim he would pay the
fines, but they have  a better chance of growing wings than to
get money out of Trump.

I wish the news media wouldn't look for every little problem
the Democrats might have from Trump. It only helps him
because he wants to be in the news all the time. Trump used
the news media to help him win in 2016. So he will try it again.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 06, 2019, 12:34:07 pm

Trump's man in Kentucky looses even with his help. So it 
could be Trump doesn't have the magic to win elections
for other GOP members as they thought.  Some might
say the Democrats barely won, but it's more than that.
Trump won by  30 points when elected. That's a 30
point loss of support since 2016.

It's likely a loss in a red state like Kentucky will soften
support for Trump by the GOP in the senate. Only time
will tell.

Trump still wants the name of the whistle blower that told of
Trump's call with the president of Ukraine. Trump should
know the whistle blower has been irrelevant ever sense 
he released the transcript of his call. He just wants 
someone else to blame for his impeachment troubles.
Besides the whistle blowers name is protected by law,
and Trump's attempt to get it should be another article
of impeachment as every law he has broken should be.

The GOP is running out of ideas to protect Trump with
every testimony that shows Trumps guilt. Any other
citizen of this country would be looking at prison if
they were guilty of the same thing. Yet the so called
law and order party wants to look the other way and
say it's not impeachable, or even illegal. Every GOP
member of congress guilty of ignoring Trumps guilt
should loose their seat of office in 2020. I know this
would be harsh, but it would do a lot to protect our
democracy. Because it would put the fear of god in\
all politicians. Be they Democrats or Republicans.

I know Trumps supporters love it when Trump attacks
people who tell the facts about him. Trump wants to say
it's  just the deep state that doesn't like his way of doing
the job as president. The problem with that excuse is he
brings his troubles on himself. Firing the FBI director
because he was investigating a loyal person Trump wanted
to protect. Also over the past 3 years he has lied, and has
done his best to cover, and hide every wrong doing he has
committed. His claims of innocence make no since when he
refuses to give evidence to prove it. He seems to think just
saying he didn't do it is all the  proof anyone needs. I am
sure every criminal in the country would love this, as they
nearly always never admit doing anything wrong. If we let
anyone get by with this, we are headed for anarchy. A society
where no one is safe.

It would be bad enough if the things Trump does only affected
our country internally, but Trump is destroying our ability to
have an effective foreign policy. It's due to Trumps thinking
he can make deals just as he did in business. In business
one can walk away, and it only affects the business, not
a country, or the human rights of the people in them. Something
Trump cares nothing about, and apparently his supporters don't
either.

This might seem correct to people pushing for nationalism,  but
it's self destructive, in the world we live today. We must work
with other nations. The planet won't survive otherwise. We can
have our own laws  and culture, but if we don't work together
human life on this planet is destined to end.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 07, 2019, 12:42:18 pm
Trump's VP went to New Hampshire to register Trump into
the GOP primary for president. Personally I think if Trump
has time to play golf, he has time to register his self, and
not ask his lackey to do it for him. People there were
chanting 4 more years. Of course they were supporters
cleared by the secret service to be close to the VP.

Trump continues to demand loyalty from all of those he nominates
or hires, to himself personally, not the law or the constitution.
Just as every good Mob boss would.

The GOP is now trying to say Trump is too dumb to be able to
extort anything from a foreign leader. Well so they say, and I
might agree, but the phone call that got Trump in trouble
was part of an extensive attempt to get Ukraine to start
a false investigation of Joe Biden. While telling them to
investigate or their president won't get to visit the white
house, or get  any weapons for defense against Russians.

Though it seems strange why so many people support Trump.
I think part of it is due to the fact many people are in awe
of any man who is very rich. Especially the super rich. They
will do most anything to get a favor from them. I think this
is one reason why Trump attracts corrupt people. They likely
feel they can get a free ride or can get a lot of money
if they please him. After all even a million dollars isn't a
great lot to  a man who has billions.

People also think the super rich are very smart, and want
to ask them how they became rich. People should know
rich people will do most anything for a dollar. They will
spend all the time it takes to  succeed. Where the
average person thinks a rich man has it easy, but
in reality they work harder than most anyone else.
Not with physical labor, but by selfish actions, and
the more they have the worse they get. They don't
always succeed. Many will go bankrupt time and
time again. Often dragging others down with them.

Some like Trump get their money handed  to them
by their rich parents. Trump would be bankrupt if
it wasn't for the money he got from his father.
He also made a lot when he did the TV show
"The Apprentice". Where he pretended to be a
smart businessman. When in reality, he is a
terrible business man who has been lucky to
stay afloat. The TV show saved his butt, otherwise
he would likely be deep in debt.

Trump went to Saudi Arabia right after he was
elected. Possibly to make a deal for his son n law
who was headed for bankruptcy because of a bad
investment. Apparently he got the loan, as his
money problems has seemed to have disappeared.

This could be why Trump has been supporting
the Saudi's over the last few years. Weapon sales,
and thousands of American troops to protect their
oil fields.

Trump wants people to think he is a great deal
maker, but his foreign policies have been mostly
a disaster. Even if Trump looses his bid to be
elected for another term, it will take years
regain support from many of our allies.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 08, 2019, 01:02:08 pm

Now, the GOP and Trump don't want public hearings. After weeks of
complaining about closed hearings they turn about face. I think the GOP
is following Trump, a man who knows when people watch them it
will damage his credibility. Perhaps even with some of his supporters.
We  can expect him to tell his next rally not to watch or believe
anything they see or hear in these hearings, only him, because
they are only a hoax and full of lies.

To hear Trump everyone lies but him. The news lies, the Democrats lie,
His extortion of Ukraine is a lie, those who were listening to  his phone call
lie, and of course anyone who doesn't agree or support him lie.

By saying this, it should make Trump out to be unbelievable. Yet
his supporters continue to stand with him. I really don't think his
supporters are stupid. Not really. They are just caught up thinking
Trump really wants to make America great again. The problem is,
like  most super rich, his idea of great is for the rich, and no one
else. I  fear by the time they realize this the only thing great will
be the damage to our country.

They should ask Trump why he and the GOP are against the minimum
wage. Why do so many people have to work at 2 jobs to survive? Why
are so many without homes, or have enough to  eat? Trump has done
little to change this, in fact jobs are still leaving the country in spite of
Trumps claims. This doesn't count all the farmers who have gone
bankrupt because of Trumps tariffs. Tariffs that take money from
the pockets of Americans more than those of China.

Michal Bloomberg, a billionaire from New York is possibly running for
the Democratic nomination for president. Little Mike as Trump calls him
said he would be glad to run against him. Of course you never know
with Trump.

Personally the last man or woman we need in the White House is
a member of the super rich. They have too many conflicts to be
able to do a proper job without damage to their own interests.

Some of the Democrat leadership are worried that Warren could be
too liberals to defeat Trump. That is hard to say. I think any of
those running stand a good chance to beat Trump. After all Trump
is facing a lot of voters who just want to see him go, and would
vote for anyone else.  I have said in the past that I would vote for
a dog over Trump. At least when a dog barked it would be to
protect us, instead of just barking a lie. 

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 09, 2019, 12:49:44 pm

It's doubtful Trump will do much work at the job of
president between now and the election in 2020.
Already he is  having 2 or more rally's a week. Even
showing up at big games. Just more proof Trump is
more interested in being reelected than doing his job.
Which he spends little time doing.

He still hasn't paid costs to cities who have to provide
security, and crowd control for his rally's. At the rate he
is going, he will be owing 10's of millions to cities he
likely will never want to pay.

Trump wants his supporters to think he is innocent of
anything the Democrats claim. He doesn't want them to
know he is guilty of bribery and extortion. When he told
his administration to not release funding to Ukraine. He
wants them to believe his lies about his claims of Ukraine's
corruption instead. Each time he talks to the media he just
rants and raves about how bad he is being treated by the
News media, and the Democrats. When Trump leaves office,
either by removal or by loosing the election, he should be
taken directly to jail. Just as any other American citizen
would be having done the crimes.

To be sure the GOP will do their best to turn the upcoming
public impeachment hearings into a circus. These GOP
members have no excuse trying to cover up Trumps
law breaking. In fact every last one of them should
be removed from office as well. Because their guilt
even worse than Trumps. It's against the law for
anyone to protect or support a law breaker as
the GOP is doing. It makes no difference, even if
their voters want Trump. It's not their decision to
make. Besides, their voters have been lied to, so
they don't know how to vote.

The GOP should be defending the country, by telling
their voters the truth. Instead they shake in their boots
afraid Trump will call them names. Or loose their seat in
congress.

It's time we put term limits on our politicians.  As is
people in congress never want to leave. Serving  there
should be a duty, not a lifelong career. Allowing them
to stay encourages lie's and corruption.

If you wonder why it costs so much to go to a doctor, or
especially the emergency room. It's because the rich doesn't
care, because to a billionaire it's pennies to them. Since they
run the country they want to help their rich friends that run
big insurance who make billions by raising premium costs.
They have no incentive to cut health care costs, because they
can decide who and what to cover, while individuals either pay
or die.

There are 600 billionaires in this country, and most of them
only care about themselves. They see the progressive Democratic
party as a threat to their riches. So they spend hundreds of millions
hiring GOP politicians to protect those riches. They pay the conservative
media to lie and convince the public health care will bankrupt the 
country.

We can expect they will use their money even more this year, because
more people are voting than ever. They see this as a danger to their
control of the country. If we stand by and let them get their way our
costs of living will continue to grow, and even 2 jobs won't be enough.

It's time we as voters make the rich pay their share. They use the
infrastructure to make their billions. So they should help pay the
costs the same as every one else does. To be sure they will complain
and make excuses, and to say it will hurt the economy. Well the only
economy it will hurt is making it harder for them to pay for their
forth mansion. I have no problem with people having a lot of money.
It's when they use it to take advantage of those who have nothing
that grinds my gears.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 10, 2019, 12:33:18 pm

The GOP continues trying to get the name of the Whistle blower to
Trump their King. Even though to expose a whistle blower is against
federal law. Just more law breaking by Trump and the so called law
and order party. It's time they were removed from office. Every last
one. It's not just politics as many one to  claim. It's breaking the law!!.

It's likely this attempt to reveal the whistle blower,is to discourage others
from doing the same thing. The Trump administration is so corrupt, they
likely think it will cause other whistle blowers to come out.

The GOP doesn't want to talk about the crimes of Trump. Instead
they try to dodge and divert peoples attention away from them
instead. By only wanting to talk about how unfair the Democrats
are, hoping the public will think it's a lot about nothing in the end.

GOP members are trying to say since Ukraine got the aid anyway
Trump did nothing wrong. This is a lie because even an attempt to
break the law is a crime. Say a robber goes into a store, and after
stealing something, is caught before they could get away.  The robber
would still be guilty of attempted robbery. If you don't think so as any
lawyer or policeman.

Trump is not new to bribes and extortion. He  does this every day
with GOP members of congress and the Senate. Offering large
amounts of money for their campaign if they will stand by him.
If they don't he threatens to get them removed from office, by
supporting an opponent in primaries. I think they worry too much.
Trump hasn't had much success with his support. Several people
running for office have lost even with his support. In fact there is
talk some may tell Trump to stay away during their next campaign.

The Democrats seem to  forget that Trump just barely won in 2016.
Mostly due to many voters not getting out to vote, because they felt
H. Clinton was going to win anyway. Even Trump thought she was going
to win. In fact it was only the electoral system that elected Trump, not
the people. Trump hates it, but the fact is he lost the popular vote by
nearly 3 million votes.

I think Trump and the GOP are betting the electoral  system will put
him back in the white house, no matter how bad he looses the
popular vote. I do hope he looses by a greater amount than he
won by last time. If it's close he and the GOP will go all the way
to the supreme court, trying to get it overturned. With a 5 - 4
conservative court he just might get his way. If this was to happen
we really could have riots in the streets.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 11, 2019, 11:34:24 am

Now Trump wants to claim the Democrats have edited the transcript
of his phone call. Just shows how desperate Trump is. After telling
the people to read it, he doesn't want them to believe it.

Those at the White house apparently worry every time Trump starts
shouting at his TV screens. They all have to snap to attention when
he walks out of the oval office. All expected to say yes sir, and agree
to anything he says or wants. Any other president would be mostly
seen and not heard until he had listened to the facts and read the
reports. Not Trump he thinks he knows it all, and tells everyone too.

Let's have a good Veterans day, and give our respect to those who gave their
lives for a strong country.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 12, 2019, 01:00:40 pm
The supreme court is hearing arguments about DOCA. Trump wants to
kick them out of the country. Mostly because Obama let them stay, and
we know Trump wants to undo everything President Obama did. It's likely
any decision by the court will be in the spring of 2020, so it will be a
campaign issue. Just as the courts decision on Obama care will be.

Trump wants to claim most all immigrants are leeches on society, but in
most cases immigrants come to this country for a better life. Not
for a handout or commit crimes as Trump and the GOP supporters
wish to think. In fact most immigrants are people that are willing
to work hard, and do much to make our country stronger, not
weaker.

Some may think this business where Trump used Ukraine a lot about
nothing, but it wasn't just trying to make the Bidens look bad. Trump
was trying to help Russia, by claiming Ukraine was guilty of the 2016
hacking of H. Clinton's emails, and not Russia. Why? So the sanctions
could be removed, that punishes Russia for invading Ukraine. If we
stand by and let Putin take over Ukraine, he will continue trying
to rebuild the Soviet Union and control the countries within it's
old boarders.

The GOP prepare to put on a show, knowing their King will be watching.
They are in a bit of a box because Trump wants total loyalty. So even if
they feel the public might like a particular attack, it must please Trump
 as well.

Lately Trump has been jumping from one excuse to another, so it's
been hard for the GOP to keep up with his talking points. I wish
they would just tell the truth, and let the chips fall where they
may. Then if they want to  keep Trump, the  voters can either
reward them or not.But no, they don't care about the truth,
they just want to hold power. In my opinion they are just a
bunch of rich men afraid the Democrats will take their money,
and give it to the poor.

The GOP and many of their supporters think people like
being poor, and wouldn't work even if given the chance.
The facts are, nearly everyone would rather make their
own way, and not live on handouts. Sure there are a
few who prefer living on the streets, but it's due to
the government making it difficult if they try to
get ahead. If they ask for help, the government
puts all kinds of hurdles in their way. If they make
a dollar, they stand to loose all aid. So why even
try.

We can't put the blame on either party, because
both parties have been guilty of using the poor
to get votes. The Democrats trying to help, and
the GOP wanting to keep them on aid. It's time
we work to help people make a living wage.

Some states want them to have a job to keep medicaid,
but how can a person get a job when they don't even
have transportation, or a telephone. These so called
smart politicians should find them jobs, and see that
they have the means to keep it. Also minimum wage
is not enough for a family to live on in many places.
Yet Trump and the GOP want to get rid of it, much
less raise it.

During the 1960's one job would just bearly keep
the bills paid, but by the end of that decade it was
taking 2 jobs if you wanted any extra money at all,
and it's gotton worse since.

This is why many children end up on the streets.
Both parents have to work, and unless a grand
parent is around to help, they have no one to
guide them. For the good of the country we need
to see no child is left to their own devices. If we
don't more will grow up mad at the world, and
think no one cares.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 13, 2019, 01:09:47 pm

It is sad to see a political party like the GOP turn against the
constitution in favor of a president who works for his personal
interests, even though they put our national security at risk.

Now president Trump is using his authority to pressure Ukraine
to investigate a political opponent. Not only that, but also try to
prove Ukraine was responsible for hacking the Democratic party
in 2016 instead of Russia. Even though it was clearly shown
that Russia was the responsible party by the Mueller report.
Trump has shown over the years a uncommon support for
Putin, the  Russian leader. We can only guess why Trump
feels this way towards a known opponent of the United States.

It is known however Trump wants to expand his real estate
dealing into Russia. Even to build a hotel in Moscow. So it
could be Trump is trying to gain Putin's favor with this in
mind. It is also known Trump has borrowed heavily from
a bank who has roots in Russia. So could it be he is
under pressure to repay these loans? This would be
a good reason to have his tax returns  released.

We also  know Trump was wanting to remove sanctions
against Russia, but was prevented by the GOP controlled
congress. At a time apparently before Trump was able
to fully intimidate GOP members well enough to get his
way.

The GOP minority leader in the public hearing made
the claim that the Democrats consider Trump a Russian
plant or perhaps a spy. I don't remember the Democrats
making this claim, but Trumps actions would lead one to
feel this way.

The two witnesses who appeared in today's public
hearing gave solid support showing Trump desire
to gain information ab out the Biden's for his political
benefit, even if it was false. Even if he had to prevent
the release of military aid to  Ukraine to get it. Even to
say the information meant more to Trump than Ukraine
it's self.

It was also shown Trump had non official people in Ukraine
apparently  to let the new president know he had to play
ball if he  wanted any more aid.  When the US government
officials found this out they started asking questions
which let them know the white house was behind it.
Trump then proceeded to remove those US officials in
Ukraine that could block his efforts.

Now it could be Trump felt he could do this legally, and
may have felt he was doing some kind of business deal.
The problem is he was doing it for his personal benefit
and not for the United states. Something the constitution
does not allow for any government official. Especially the
president.

The GOP went into twisting facts trying to make Trump
sound innocent, and just being a good president when
they took over. So they are using every trick they know
to undo anything said by a witness that might harm their
king.

It is shameful on their part, when they try to cover
unconstitutional acts by anyone, much less a president.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 14, 2019, 12:43:55 pm

Trump spent time with the Turkish dictator yesterday. The
Turkish leader apparently felt he needed to prove to Trump
how bad the Kurd's are, by showing  Trump a video which
likely  misrepresented the Kurd's. It's common knowledge
that Trump is more likely to believe a video than anything
else. Even GOP members at the meeting commented the
video was suspect.

The big GOP talking point yesterday wasn't about what Trump did,
but about hearsay. It seems unless it comes from Trump directly it's
just hearsay. The big mouth GOP member who demanded that the
whistle blower show up. Was asked, let's put Trump in the witness
chair if you want to know what he really said, but the GOP member
didn't have any answer for that. Because he knew Trump would
never show up, and would likely lie his way into a certain
impeachment if he did.

The one thing that did catch the GOP off guard was the
phone call by Trump to his man at a restaurant in Ukraine.
This call overheard by staff gave more evidence that Trump
was directly behind the extortion of Ukraine. Not only that,
but to use a unsecured cell phone in Ukraine means
the Russians were listening in as well. Trump has been
told time and time again, using a unsecured phone is
dangerous to national security, but Trump never listens.
Perhaps Trump wants the Russians, and other countries
to know what he is doing.  Who can say.

Trump has said he has perfect memory, but each time he
is asked about meeting certain people, or about phone
calls that might make him look guilty. His memory fails
for some reason. I am sure this loss of memory is his
way of protecting himself for possible court battles, since
it's a good defense as any lawyer would tell you.

It seems the only defense the Grand Old Party can come
up with is to say the Democrats are being unfair. Not must
about what Trump is accused of, Because they know his
actions  are impeachable, and to admit that would send
Trump into a screening ranting fit. With them
getting the blame.

Isn't it interesting, when the GOP is in the majority
They say we are in power, so live with it. But when
the Democrats are in the majority, the GOP claim
they are being partisan, and very unfair. They
want the public to forget that the GOP care little
for  compromise, or bipartisanship unless they are
in the minority, or need votes from the Democrats.

Many call this politics, but it should be illegal, no
matter who is in power. It's fine for a party to have
their own ideas about things, but without compromise
nothing good is done. In the mid 1850's we had single
party control that likely led to the civil war. We have to
work together, otherwise too many people are hurt, which
can lead to violence.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 15, 2019, 01:20:54 pm

Stone, a long time friend of president Trump has been found guilty,
and will be sentenced for his crimes. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump
pardons him. If not now, before he leaves office.

It appears Trump fears the testimony of the former ambassador to
Ukraine. An ambassador he had removed, because she could expose
his attempts to use Ukraine for his own benefit, and of his friends.
Anyone who wants to  believe Trump over her, should ask if she had
such a bad reputation, why did Trump appoint her in the first place?
Why did the GOP senate  approve her if this is true? This person who
has worked in the state  department for 33 years. For republicans and
democrats alike, can  speak with pride about her years of service.

Trump's discussing and tweets of lies about this person, just shows
how bad he is, because she has a clean record of proper service to
our country,  not one of failures as Trump is trying to paint her with.
Doing this while she is testifying is nothing more than witness
intimidation. Not just her, but all those who may wish to speak
out about him. Just more proof to show Trumps abuse of power,
and the office of president.

It seems the GOP feels a president should be protected because
people voted for that person, and their vote should be respected.
Yes, their vote should be respected, but if a person obtains the
presidency with the aim to benefit them self and not the country.
This would be a fraud committed against them, and their vote
should not be considered, since the candidate misrepresented
him or her self.

I sometimes think Trump feels the presidency gives him the
means to commit crimes without consequence. Then when
he leaves power he can be pardoned. If not by himself, he
could resign the day before, so his vice president could do
the job. He could even have the pardon all signed and ready
to go even now. Just needing a date added to it. Not only that
he could pardon all those who aided him if he chose to.

It's apparent the founders never expected we would have
a self serving person elected as president, then protected
by a political party. If they had,  I am  sure they would
have setup a process where he or she could not use
the pardon to escape prosecution. Or allow such a
person to pardon anyone else. Especially if he or she
broke their oath of office.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 16, 2019, 12:47:11 pm


With each public hearing I imagine Trump is becoming more
desperate. Will his supporters stay with him if he becomes
so extreme with his claims, they become hard to believe.
Will the GOP stay while Trump makes radical claims?
Only time will tell.

The GOP have been trying to say none of the witnesses have
first hand knowledge, but Trump is blocking witnesses who do
have first hand knowledge from testifying. I am sure if the situation
was reversed the GOP would be crying foul to anyone who would
listen.

It seems we do have a mob boss for president. Blocking
witnesses or making threats made toward anyone who isn't
totally loyal is  the trademark of one. Trump may not have
thought his tweet  would cause him  trouble, but to intimidate
a witness while  they are testifying  in a official hearing is
against federal law.

Some may want to say this is just Trump being Trump, but
witness intimidation is a serious crime. Even if some people
want to excuse it. Imagine yourself being charged of a crime,
and your dependence on a witness you have, that can exonerate
you is threatened so they will lie. Causing you to go to jail. I
think you would consider it serious as well.

It seems Trump wants to believe conspiracy  theories  given
to him by friends. It's likely they feed him these theories to
make him happy, and if Trump is happy, he may help them
make a lot of money. This conspiracy of Ukraine hacking the
DNC in 2016 was started by a Russian intelligence agent,
who fed it to Manafort, who told Trump. I think Trump feels
helping Russian's Putin will help him get reelected, as he
did in 2016.

Trump likely feels removing the sanctions on Russia will gain
Putin's help for sure, but he needs a good excuse to remove
them. Trump probably feels putting the blame on Ukraine will do
the job.

The GOP used to consider Russia a threat to our way of life,
but since Trump has been in office, they appear to be changing.
The leader of the GOP controlled senate is helping a Russian
oligarch so he could build a large Aluminum plant in the state
he belongs to. Why, because he thinks it will get him reelected,
and he wants to fill the federal court system with judges that
will only work for big business, and the GOP.

Some may think letting a Russian invest in our country
is good, but it's a foot in the door that may in the future
allow Russia to threaten our economy from within.

Just how far will the GOP go. If Trump is reelected for another
4 years, it's likely influence from Russia will increase with
Trumps help. This shift away from defending the country
in favor of Trump may end up destroying the GOP, because
they are a minority party, and if they make the majority
mad enough they can vote them out of power  permanently.
Perhaps even to have a  constitutional convention, or to amend
the constitution enough to wreck the  playhouse of the super
rich, and the GOP. People who only take, and rarely ever give.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 17, 2019, 12:10:36 pm
It seems president Trump had a physical yesterday, and
it's no surprise that he was declared totally healthy. Yet
this physical was not a full one, where usually when a
president gets a physical, it's by several  doctors checking
them end to end, so to speak.

Somehow I think Trump is hiding possible health problems.
Because there are reports where he stumbles, and slurs his
speech now and then. This could be early signs of dementia.
It's not uncommon for presidents to hide health issues, but I
am sure Trump would want to hide a hangnail.

The GOP continue trying to say the witnesses are giving
secondhand information. Well this excuse is likely to  fail
with people closer to  Trump testifying soon. It's time the
GOP stand up and admit their king has no clothes, and do
the job their oath requires.

The GOP complain the Democrats aren't being fair in their
hearings. I can guarantee the Democrats are far more fair
than the GOP would be if things were reversed. They want us
to forget when they were in power that they had many private
meetings that kept the Democrats in the dark.

The GOP and their king Trump complain about the LGBTQ and
abortion, but when one or more of them are guilty of sexual
impropriety, they want to look the other way. Of course if a
democrat is accused of this, they are ready to call for their
resignation.

Just where is the so called morality the GOP claim to have?
Just where is their patriotism when their president sides with
a known aggressor (Russia) who attacks our election process?
Where is their claim of law and order when they support a
president who breaks our laws, and attacks the constitution?
Where are they when Trump and his friends attack the courts?
Where are they when Trump treats children like animals?
Why do they want judges that only support their ideas, and
not those of the majority.
Where are they when Trump wants to remove people knowing
they will die without the health care they need to live. Even
though  they were invited here in the first place?

This minority party works hard to  run our country in the
way they want, and not the way the majority wants. It's
time they are punished by voting them out of office.

It seems they are willing to suck up to anyone, even a corrupt
president if they feel it will get what they want. This is how
countries fall into chaos and anarchy.

Yes I can see the attraction  to having a autocrat like Trump for
a president, but even though such a  president can accomplish
a lot, they can  also cause a lot of harm.  Because there is
nothing to  control them. Just look at Russia. Their leader is
the head of  a criminal group of oligarchs, who tell their people
what  to do or what to say, if they want to  stay alive or out of
prison. That could happen here if we  sit back and not vote
to keep our democracy. We already have the rich wanting
to  run the country, so all they need is a leader who is willing
to make them even richer, as Putin does for his oligarchs.

Trump like all leaders who want total control, use threats,
and cover up their wrong doing. Trump seems  to believe a
business model is best. Trouble is  businesses  are
dictatorships, which do a terrible job running a society.
Trump is a lousy businessman anyway, and would
likely be broke if it wasn't for a huge inheritance. This
is likely why he keeps getting himself into trouble. Because
he wants to operate like a dictator, and not a president.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 18, 2019, 12:57:53 pm
There will be another democratic debate this week. Still 10 on stage.
It appears this many may enter the primaries. So it will be interesting
to see who Iowa decides they want. A win there doesn't seal the race,
because in many cases others went on to win the nomination.

Trump is starting to complain about his secretary of state. Saying
he shouldn't be allowing his people to testify in the impeachment
hearings. Since Trump doesn't like anyone who isn't totally loyal
to him. He may fire his secretary of state before long.

If he does, we will likely have another acting official working for
president Trump. Over a dozen so far. Trump appears to not care
to send a nomination to the senate. Just hire acting ones instead.
The problem with acting officials, they have no real authority.
Trump wants and thinks he can run the country and the government
all by himself. Almost half  the offices in the white house have no
one working in them. So it's likely people who depend on
government services are going without.

The GOP lost the governors race in Louisiana. Even though
Trump did his best to help the GOP man win. Is this a warning
to the GOP and Trump? So far Trump doesn't seem to see it
as such. I guess his big rally crowds have him feeling invulnerable.
It could be Trump will do better on the ballot than those he campaigns
for, but I think the GOP leadership may feel otherwise after a second
big loss in a GOP stronghold.

If the GOP continues it's losses, the GOP leadership may decide
they need a new man to run for president. I hope they do. Trump
would go nuts, and run as an independent. Killing any chance the
GOP might have.

Trump is saying he might testify or answer written questions
for the impeachment hearings. I see this as just more delay.
Trump's lawyers would not want him to sit and answer
questions. They know he would be on a rant as soon as
the chairman  began the hearing, and the GOP would be
white with fear, and afraid to speak.

The last time Trump was on the witness stand in a court,
he told lies, and got himself in trouble. This was in the
past before  elected to office. Trump can't help himself.
He just has to gripe and shout if he feels threatened.
This is likely why he doesn't like courts of law, much
less called to them.

Also the committee would likely be waiting for weeks to get
any written questions answered by Trump.

I am sure most of us have seen the demonstrations in Hong Kong.
Well this could be our future if we don't put a stop to the far right
and Trump. A minority who is only interested in power and money.

Think not? Sure a minority may like authoritarian control, but
this will lead to unrest, when the far right passes laws to punish
minorities for not bowing to their control, and the LGBTQ. Not
counting the way they want to  treat women. They think women
should stay in the home and raise kids. No abortions either,
unless they  are rich enough to have it done outside the
country.

Going from a democracy to authoritarianism is a shorter
step than most people think it is. So we must vote,
because if those who desire power by illegal means
gain control, our votes may not count. In 2017
Trump was claiming many voters were illegal.
We can expect the same if Trump looses in 2020.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 20, 2019, 01:13:38 pm

The public impeachment hearings continue. If you have been
watching, I am sure it's easy to tell how much pressure the GOP
is in. They have no shame. They are doing their best to discredit
anyone who tells the truth as they know it, because Trump wants
this done. No matter who it hurts or danger it might put them in.
They must protect Trump or he will call them a never Trumper.
A term anyone should be proud of. But apparently bad news
for a GOP congressman who doesn't kiss Trump's feet.

They didn't even respect a respected service man, who's only
crime in that he didn't support Trump's lies. The same for others
who were not the least bit partisan, but as I said just guilty of
 not supporting Trump and his puppets.

I imagine most people watching these hearings can see what
the GOP is trying to do. I imagine Trump supporters love the
GOP's attempts to protect Trump. Those of us who believe in
the rule of law, and order want Trump removed, in spite of
the GOP's attempts to cover up Trumps crimes.

Isn't it interesting that Trump was fine with giving aid to Ukraine
in 2017, and 2018. But in 2019 when Joe Biden interest the race
to get the democratic nomination for president, he suddenly decided
Ukraine must be investigated to get any more aid. To be sure all
corruption is removed. To admit they and not Russia tried to mess
with the 2016 election, and the Biden's. Because Joe Biden could
possibly defeat him if nominated to run for president in 2020.

It's this attempt by Trump to discredit the Biden's, by bribing
Ukraine. Also Trumps further bribing attempts to discredit the
Russian   involvement in the  2016 election to Ukraine. Is what
the GOP is trying desperately to disprove. Even though they
very likely know Trump did it. It wouldn't be the first time the
GOP has tried to make a lie sound true. They do it just about
every time they and others run for office.

Isn't it strange, even though Trump claimed he would hire
the best people when he was running for office. So why do
we see  many of Trumps men indicted,  and some now in jail.
Trump himself would likely be in prison \if he  didn't have the
immunity of being president. So why  does the GOP, who claim
they care about law, and order  stand up for the most corrupt
president in American history?

Loosing the 2020 election is Trumps biggest fear, and will likely
do anything in his power to win reelection. Including using the
powers of the presidency to do so. It's likely the GOP
controlled Senate won't vote to remove Trump, Unless the
GOP leadership feels it will benefit them politically. If so they
would dump Trump in a heartbeat. Secretly they dislike him,
and would love to  hand the job to the Vice President, but
-they fear Trump's supporters, and his tweets.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 21, 2019, 12:57:11 pm

The debate went pretty well last night. I kind of wonder how
many took the time to watch after a day full of hearings about
the crimes of Trump and his cronies. Mostly they made promises
that will be hard to keep unless the democrats can get a majority
or even better, 60 seats  in the senate. You can be sure the GOP
will fight to support their rich supporters. Because without them
they would likely loose  elections.

Yesterday one witness  stated that everyone at the highest levels
knew what Trump  was up to. Even the Vice president, and state
department. I  imagine Attorney  General Barr knew as well, but
didn't seem  too interested in  being involved.

The hearings continue giving evidence that Trump wanted the
Ukraine president to say his government was investigating the
Biden's, and election interference during the 2016 presidential
election. Apparently Trump hoped this would destroy Joe Biden's
chances for nomination, or winning the presidential election.

Of course the GOP committee members do all they can to offer
doubt to the public, hoping to discredit the witnesses. Also they
are putting  on a show to please Trump. I am sure he worries the
statements by the witnesses will cost him votes, and perhaps the
election. So he pressures the GOP to stand solidly behind him, hoping
the public will believe its just a partisan attack by the democrats
to get rid of him.

One sad thing about all this is it discredits any attempts we make
to curve corruption around the world. How can they believe us
when those at the top of our government are so corrupt. I sometimes
think Trump is asking Putin for advice. We know Trump looks up to the
Russian dictator with awe, and envy. So why wouldn't he take advice
from a man like that? A man who is corrupt to the bone.

Standing back and looking, the Trump administration is looking more
and more like that of Putin's administration. Rich oligarchs and a congress
that follows his demands. All Trump needs is a hit squad, and if he is in office
for another term he may get one.

Over the years I have heard those in the GOP say the Democrats will
wreck the economy, and cause the down fall of our country. Because
of a bloated government that spends too much, and over taxes the
people. This is the line they used to spread. Since the election of
Obama, I really don't know what they think. Seems they will use any
lie or misrepresentation to win control of the government. Then when
they have it, they loose interest in the common man. They seem to
think the U S A should be a bastion for the rich, and any attempt by
the democrats is a desecration of their plan. So they use any means
to stop voters that don't support the GOP, or convince the public
only they deserve to rule.

I think it's interesting that Trump implies a lot of people have his
concerns, when he accuses others of bad deeds. When in fact it's
just himself when he makes the statement. I suppose he thinks his
statement alone will cause many others to believe him. Even if it's
a lie.  President Trump is one man I believe could pass a lie detector
test while telling any lie he wanted. Yet I think he tells so many lies he
has trouble keeping them straight. Perhaps even to start believing his
own lies after while. His lies total over 13,000 since taking office.

He claim's the Democrats aren't doing any thing but trying to
impeach him. What he doesn't say, is well over 300 bills lay in
the senate, because the corrupt leader of the senate won't bring
them up fora vote. Just to keep Trump from having to veto them.
Veto's  that might hurt him politically.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 22, 2019, 12:50:15 pm
Many people seem to feel almost every politician is corrupt, So they
think even though Trump is corrupt, he isn't any worse than the rest.
This is just a  cop out, because to accept a crook this way harms  us
all.

Too many times people say, You can't fight city hall.  This is only
the case when people sit back and do nothing. Politicians become
corrupt when people ignore them. A democracy only remains
strong when it's people work to  keep it that way. If a man
or woman fails to do their job, it's time to replace them. This
is why we need term limits. To stop people from making a
career of government service. No matter how  good they
appear to be. Without change a system degrades, This is
why we need new people with new ideas, Society changes
with time, and  those who make laws should be changed
too.

Trumps friends in the senate plan to investigate  the Biden's. This
is just more noise by the GOP to help their King. Not for the good
of the country. They are calling for all information about Joe Biden
and his son from the state department, and else where. What do
you bet they get full cooperation, unlike the information requested
by the impeachment hearings, which was blocked by Trump.

Trump was chasing his tail on Fox news saying how unfair the
democrats were. He lied saying the GOP had no witnesses . They
had three. People who worked in the white house. Trump didn't
like them, because they didn't lie for him. So he ran them down
by saying they were low level staff. Even though they were very
smart people who wouldn't turn against the constitution for
president Trumps favor.

Trump apparently want his supporters to think the impeachment
inquiry is like a trial, but it's not. It's only an investigation. So
courtroom  terms mean nothing, no matter what Trump claims.
If the attorney general was doing his job, he would be assisting
the impeachment inquiry instead of working for Trump.

Trump is in a hurry for the impeachment trial, because he plans
to use the results in his campaign to be reelected. I really  doubt
if enough GOP senators have the guts to remove Trump. So he
will stand at his rally's and claim he has been proven innocent.
Not only of his impeachment, but of the Mueller investigation.
An investigation that gave proof of his abuse of power. If
Trump  was under indictment, and tried in a normal trial 
with a jury of nonpartisan citizens. He would likely be convicted
on all counts, and spend the rest of his life in jail.

Even if the GOP senators don't wish to remove Trump
They should at least acknowledge the fact he was
wrong to use his power for personal gain. Yet they
don't even want to do this for fear that Trump will
attack them, and possibly cost them their office.

The GOP members are making comments about why many of the
witnesses were born in foreign countries. Well  perhaps it's a warning
sign of complacency. Perhaps it takes someone with a better understanding
how great a democracy is to stand up against a corrupt president, when they
really  understand how bad it is to live under an authoritarian dictator.
Their parents know, because they have experienced it, and told their
children how lucky they are to  live  here as they grew up.

So people born here have only read about such places. They 
haven't  any understanding unless they know someone who can
really explain it to them.  Also people of privileged often don't
 experience the same problems even in an a authoritarian system.

It's unfortunate, but people become complacent  once they have
a life that is good. They only become concerned when they
start feeling the pain, when they loose their rights. Then they are
willing to stand up and fight for themselves and their children. The
problem with this, is by the time they realize the need to fight they
often have to die, or loose everything while attempting to  regain their
freedom, and some will turn in their friends to gain favor, or to 
keep a bit of power.

I think the GOP and even supporters of the far right are guilty of
this, by turning against our constitution, and way of life. Hoping to
keep power, or gain it. They foolishly believe those they put in
power will give them favor. But even they will suffer in the end.
Once a dictator has control he will kill and start wars to keep it.
The general public is just fodder for his needs. He will take a
country  down rather than give up power.

I wish more people cared enough to stamp out corruption, no
matter who it is. Not look the other way to get some small gain.
Some are willing to even give up rights in a means to an end.
This is like selling your soul to the devil, because you will 
always loose in the end.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 23, 2019, 12:35:39 pm

The people who testified during the past two weeks have shown,
not only did Trump try to extort and bribe the president of Ukraine
to hurt Joe Biden with a false   investigation. He is guilty of
supporting the Russian claim that Ukraine, not Russia was
involved in our 2016 election. Apparently with threats and bribes
the GOP is going along with Trump's lies, and support of Russia
our greatest adversary.

The GOP a party who used to stand for patriotism, the constitution
and the rule of law, is letting Trump drag them into a world where
corruption rules instead of the constitution. Apparently because they
fear the loss of  political power to the Democrats. A party they believe
will bankrupt the country with their tax, and spend idea's. Something
that worked very well until their idea of trickle down economics designed
to help the rich,  was started  by the GOP when Reagan became president.
Since then the  spending power of the middle class has changed little
while the rich  has grown quite a lot, while the cost of living forces the
others to do without or work at 2 or more jobs.

President Trump continues to use his marketing skills trying to
convince his supporters that he is innocent, and the greatest
president ever. This con artist cares nothing for his supporters
except for their votes. Oh he stands in his rally's crying how
great he is, but refuses to let people in that might cause his
followers to start thinking instead of listening to him.

A salesman cannot let people think he might be wrong about
nything. It's the quickest way to loose a sale. I know from
over 40 years of business experience this is true, and
Trump does  as well.

If you ever watch him speak to an audience, you can see he
follows the rules of public speaking. Look at your audience while
speaking, and above all include your audience. He does this by
claiming his opponents are not only against him, but those in
his audience as well.  Also he fishes for speaking points that
get cheers, and builds on them. Trump never was a good
businessman, but quickly learned how to not only be a good
 salesman, but a con artist as well. Just ask anyone who has
done business with him. Banks and business people alike avoid
Trump like the plague, because you have to  sue to get paid.

Some may think this makes Trump a smart man, but woe
to anyone he owes money to. This is why he has to use
foreign banks to  borrow money. I think this is one reason
he is working so hard to hide his tax returns. He fears  if
his supporters find out who he does business with they
might not support him anymore.

Trump has admitted dealing with the Mob, claiming it was
necessary to do business in New York. I don't care what he
claims, but when you deal with crooks, it's going to rub off
on you. You can see how he acts even as president. He uses
Mob boss tactics trying to get his way. So we have no idea
how deep this goes.

Unfortunately as one builds wealth they find it harder to be
honest. Many billionaires are honest people, but many are
not, because it's easier to make money by being dishonest,
and it's been proven, riches is like a drug. The more you have
the more you want. Like any addict some will break laws to
get their fix. So it's no wonder why Trump has hired dishonest
people. People who live in his  world, where money is everything.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 24, 2019, 12:46:10 pm

I really hope we don't go from Trump to another billionaire. No matter
how well intention they might be. All billionaires have too many
conflicts of interest to be a good president. Besides money corrupts,
and a lot of it corrupts even more. I find it hard to believe any of
them would give up a huge part of their riches for the good of
the country. Do they understand, being president is being a
public servant? Trump sure doesn't. I just don't see a billionaire
going from a ruler of industry to a servant of a country. They
are rich because of ego, and being a master of their world.

Trump has no respect for women, just look at how he has treated
them in the past. Anytime a woman stands up against him he calls
them names, and runs them down. Accusations of sexual impropriety
follows Trump even though he tries to deny it all. That video where
he told how he treated women said it all.  Basically saying women
follow money and will let you do anything to them if your rich enough.

Trump continues to brag on "his" economy. But the economy is
more than the stock prices he loves to brag about. The real
economy is slowing down. Trump and the GOP claimed their
big tax cut would bring about 4% or more growth. Well it's
 Growing only at 2%, and may only be 1% in the fourth quarter.

I am sure Trump and the GOP would not want to admit it, but
under Obama growth was a steady 2%. So Trump and the GOP
have nothing to brag about. In fact Trumps illegal tariffs are
killing home owned farms. Many are only surviving on Trump
welfare. Paid for by the public due to tariff induced higher
prices.

Trump wants to brag about how much money big oil, and gas is
making, and how it cuts into Russian sales in Europe. That
is good for them, but Mr. and Misses America are not doing so
well. Having to work 2 jobs and doing without to make ends
meet. Doing without needed medicine due to the money
grubbing pharmaceutical industry. Prices Trump claimed
he would work to lower. Just more lies by our corrupt
president and the GOP. 

The GOP is so afraid of Trump they won't stand up
for our country. Trump has looked to Russia ever
since they started loaning him the money he needs
to survive. Trump will do whatever Putin wants short
of handing him the keys to the white house. When
Russian planes harassed our navy ships in the black
sea, Trump told his staff to not talk about it, and our
navy to just live with it. I find it hard to understand
why anyone would support a president who is selling
himself, and his party to an enemy of our country.

Now I wouldn't have a problem with conservative
media, if they would just say it like it is. Telling lies
and misleading the American public is un American.
If they wish to talk about conservative ideas, fine,
but supporting a corrupt president and party is
just wrong. I am sure they wouldn't support
anyone else who would do them harm.

A one time friend of Joe Biden is turning against
him because he wants to please Trump. A GOP
senator who called Trump a terrible person in
2016 is  selling his soul to Trump. Like many
in the GOP, they put their desire of their political
office over the good of the country and the
constitution.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 25, 2019, 01:03:19 pm

Trump continues to abuse the pardon power of the presidency. He
pardoned a navy seal, because he felt his removal was unfair to the
man's service in the military. Trump needs to understand, even when
a person works hard to gain a position, wither it be civilian or in the
military. The job requires this standard of duty must continue. Just
as the job of president. Trump put in a lot of time and work to be
elected, yet he feels now  he can just lay back an work when he
wants. The job of president is 24/7, not 9 to 5 on weekdays.

Trump promised to be on the job more than Obama, but hasn't spent half
the time Obama did while in office. Spending much of his time playing golf
at one of his resorts. During the first 6 months, Trump charged the secret
service 250,000 dollars for doing their job of protecting him and his family.
Since Trump only wants to stay at his personal resorts, much of the money
when straight into his pocket. Some praise him for not accepting his salary,
but he breaks the constitution by making money using the office of president.
By law the only money he is to be paid personally is his salary. I am sure he
would complain, but it's part of being president.

Most are saying Trump should stay out of military court decisions. Well it's
too bad, but Trump has a right to be an idiot, because his intervening in
such decisions  that go against the chain of command is a big mistake. If
someone in the military goes against orders, not because the order
is bad, but  because they don't care to  follow the order. They have to
be  punished. Otherwise discipline is lost, and discipline is at the hart
of  the military.  The last thing we want is allowing bad people to be bad.

It's just Trump seems to think common since is best, because he isn't
smart enough to know better. Things are rarely as simple to fix as they
appear to be. Especially when dealing with human beings. This is likely
why Trump has been a failure in business. If is father hadn't given
him a half billion dollars to play with, he would likely be broke.

The founders gave the president the title of commander in chief, but
I really doubt if they meant for the president to actually be a super
general. Just a middle man between civilian control and the military.
Trouble with Trumps ego, he likely thinks of himself as a super general.
I hope Trump doesn't get us in a real war, because he might decide
he could run the war better than our experienced Generals, which
would be a disaster.

Senator Lindsey Graham apparently has sold himself to Trump. The
man was dead set against Trump in 2016, but now he seems to think
his support of Trump is his bath to be reelected. It is sad to see a good
senator turn against our constitution just to stay in office. I am sure his
old friend John MC Cain would be ashamed of him if he was still alive.

I fear several GOP senators have convinced them selves they must
stand with Trump. I hope the voters hold them accountable for breaking
their oath of office by supporting a man who cares nothing for our constitution.
They say Trump did nothing to be impeached for, yet he is guilty  of abuse
of power, the emoluments clause, along with bribery. A president only has
to break his oath of office to be impeached. Yet the GOP does not care.
They claim it's because of the voters, but when the voters were against
removal of the ACA, they called them radicals. The GOP lost 40 seats
in the house in 2018, I hope they loose even more along with the
senate in 2020.

The GOP took over the Congress in 2010 by using lies about the ACA, The
far rights fear of a black president, and gerrymandering several states to
gain power.  They worked to  deny president Obama any success, by
doing little, but trying to kill health coverage for those who need it. The ACA
was a GOP plan, but when the democrats worked to pass it, they called it a
disaster, and did their best to add amendments trying to make that true.
The GOP doesn't want to do anything, but make government smaller with
only helps for the rich and big business.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 26, 2019, 12:50:10 pm

The GOP wants to claim Trump is just doing things in a different way, and
should be allowed to stay in office. Well his different ways are breaking
laws and his oath of office. There is no excuse for allowing anyone especially
a president to get by with that. It's time we vote to remove a corrupt president
and his corrupt followers from office.

Personally I think much of our problems with politicians is MONEY. It's very
hard for the average American to run for any political office when people
with money can spend large sums to convince voters they are the best
man for the job. Yes it's usually a rich man that uses their money in this
fashion.  Just look at the GOP, virtually all are men. Where the democrats
have over 100 women in our Washington DC law making bodies. More than
10 times that of the GOP.

We have 3 billionaires spending millions trying to convince voters they will
do a great job, and will beat Trump if nominated. Or as a independent. While
those who depend on donations stand in their shadow. Now I  am not saying
these super rich men are bad people. On the contrary I think any of them would
make a much better president than Trump. For one thing they are smarter,
and understand the workings of government much better as well. I just feel
people who really know how it is to work hard, and have seen first hand the
needs of Americans would be a much better politician, than a born with a
silver spoon in their mouth multi millionaire who cares more about their 
money  than the average persons needs in the country.

If I had my way, all federal and state elections would be paid for by the
government. No one would be allowed to use their money, or donations
except for gathering names on a petition to get on the ballot. Then they
would have the same amount of money as their opponents trying to
convince voters they are best for the job. Once in office they would be
subject to term limits. 6 terms in the house and 2 in the senate. Governors 
and presidents would have 2 terms. Also all elections would be won by a
majority vote, including the president.

Some might feel the electoral system brings presidential nominees to their
small state. Perhaps so 200 years ago, but with national television coverage,
rallies are no longer needed for people to hear their policies and plans for the
office. The only reason Trump has all his rally's is because he knows people have
short memories when it comes to politics, and would soon loose interest in him if
he didn't have them. Besides they are just feel good places for Trump to boost\
his ego. He isn't interested in anything they might want to say otherwise.

 President Trump wants to have almost 500 miles of his boarder
wall done by the 2020 election. Well I hear there is 83 miles done,
but most of that is just fence replacements. Of course Trumps puppets
are claiming it's almost all new. I also heard he is handing the job over
to his family. So far no money from Mexico to  pay for Trumps folly.) (wall)
I wonder how often they are putting a sign on the wall showing Trump's
name? After all his supporters need a named icon for their king.
He might as well have them lit with flood lights at night. 

Another thing, I wonder how many ranchers are going to bow to
Trump and let him build on their land without trying to stop it? If
Trump has to  win law suits to build, It could take months or years
to get anywhere.  During Trumps campaign he told his supporters
that he didn't believe in using public  domain laws. I guess he has
changed his mind, because he plans to use them now.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 27, 2019, 12:58:43 pm

Trump continues calling the process of law, and the constitution the
deep state standing against him and his supporters. That is if he doesn't
agree with it. The office of President doesn't give anyone the right to break
laws, or the constitution. There is a process for changing laws if they are
wrong. To disobey them because you don't like them is nothing but
Anarchy, and will lead to chaos, and the break down of our society.

With the last appointment to the supreme court, the GOP  have gained
a long desired goal of having control of the high court. We can only hope
they don't use this new  power to drive our country down with their aim
to only help big business and the richest Americans. While everyone else is
forgotten. The richest Americans should remember the French revolution.
If you drag enough people down, they will strike out, and it's usually the
richest people who lose in the end.


It's sad, Trump could have been a good president except for his greed.
Like most con artists, he thinks everyone else is just the same as he is.
So he feels he must fight, or lose it all. Also it's likely he sold himself to
Russia, his credit isn't any good here, so he ran to the only people who
would give him the loans he needs. Now he must help those who loaned
him money, or lose everything.

I just wonder if he is smart enough to know what line not to cross. Russia
and other governments run by tyrants will help a man like Trump if he will
promise a gift in  return. We can only hope Trump doesn't give our democracy
away for his own benefit.

I think Trump knows he may lose in 2020, so he is working hard to fill his
promise to Putin. He tried right after he took office, but the GOP wasn't 
under his thumb enough to be able to remove the sanctions Putin expected
him to do. Now with the democrats in control of the house, he can't get
enough votes to do the job. So he is trying to prove Russia is innocent, he
has been claiming it wasn't Russia ever  since he has been in office. Putin
now  wants to claim Ukraine is the culprit, so Trump jumps to the call, and
pressures the president of Ukraine to agree.

The GOP doesn't want to accept the possibility That Trump is a pawn of
Russia's Putin. So they deny and claim Trump isn't, and say it's just the
democrats making the claim. For our countries sake, I hope the GOP is
right, but much of the  evidence has Trumps fingerprints all over it.

It seems Trump's use of filthy language brings him loud cheers. So he
shames the office of the president by talking this way in his rally's. This
shows Trump has no morals, because a president who uses foul language
demeans the high office, and lowers himself to the gutter of society.

These cheers by his supporters shames the GOP as well. They should
have enough pride in themselves to be disgusted by Trumps use of
foul language. I am sure some of them use the same kind of language
them selves, which is their right, but it's a poor example made by a
president to use in front of children in his rally's.  It's likely the people
in Trumps rally's don't realize how bad this example sets for
the next generation. Not just Trumps language, but how he
lies for personal benefit. Something I am sure most families
would punish their children, if they did the same thing.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 28, 2019, 12:26:26 pm
HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone. :orbunny:


Interestingly enough the GOP worked with the Democrats to pass a
sanctions bill against China's leaders for their actions in Hong Kong.
Trump was against it. Apparently fearing it would ruin his perceived
friendship with the Chinese leader. Well Trump is fooling himself if
he thinks he has a friend with any dictator. They, like him are only
looking out for them selves. Of course we don't know what kind of
personal deal Trump has, if any with the Chinese leader. We do know
Trump looks out for Trump, no matter who he is talking to.

Trump is still trying to claim he asked nothing from the Ukrainian
president, except that he works to stop corruption. Well the memo's
of his conversations with the Ukrainian president says otherwise.
Also the witnesses in the public hearings stated  Trump wanted
the Ukrainian president  to look into the Biden's involvement,
and find corruption even if  there was none. Then to get on CNN
and tell  the world how  corrupt the Biden's are. 

Trump was preventing any military  aid, that was approved
by congress to be sent till the Ukrainian president did as
he wanted. Then when this indefensible  act of Trump was
about to succeed, a whistle blower exposed it. So Trump
quickly released the aid, because he knew it was an illegal
act  to hold the aid for personal reasons, and has since
worked to  cover up his involvement.

As usual when he speaks at his rally's, he is a innocent man
the so called deep state, along with the Democrats are out to
remove him from office, only because they don't like him, and
nothing else. 

Unfortunately his Cultist following wants to believe him,
including the GOP who is afraid to oppose Trump for almost
anything. Ever since Trump started running for president, he
has played the victim. He knows people often support the
underdog, and has played it all the way. I have a hunch
history will show how corrupt the GOP became in their
defense of Trump. The most corrupt man to ever be
president.

Trump never expected to win, so he is doing all he can to
profit from it. I hope his supporters wake up and see Trump
for what he is. A self serving con artist. The trouble is, the
conservative media is doing all they can to prove Trump to
really be a good president, and the victim of the deep state.
We can only wonder what the so called deep state is. After
all politicians are put in office with votes, not some imaginary
control center invented by the far right. If anyone is the deep
state it's the far right.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 29, 2019, 12:33:29 pm

People who go to or watch Trumps rally's should realize there,
is a strong possibility he has people there hired to start cheers
and chants. He did this at the very beginning. He paid people
50 dollars to clap and cheer for him. About 90 if I remember
correctly. He did the same thing at every debate he was at.

It only takes a small group of people, a 100 or so to start
chants, even in a big audience. Trump is a professional at
manipulating people. His supporters should take the time
to look at his history. Trump hasn't changed, and never will.

Trump can't help, but believe almost any story told him
by the far right, and those he trusts. Especially if he feels
they have some credibility, and follow some belief he may
hold. The reason he doubts the CIA, and FBI is likely because
they either made a mistake, or oppose something he wants to
believe.

He wants to blame the CIA for leading us into the war with
Iraq. Even though it was president Bush and his crowd that
wanted to modernize Iraq's oil production. Also to possibly
turn Iraq into a democracy. It was a bad idea that killed
thousands and cost us over a trillion dollars. Not only
that, Iraq is still a mess, after years of us trying to
help them. It just proves you can't change a culture,
even if you get rid of the leaders. 

Trump is cozy with Saudi Arabia because they sped a
lot of money on him. He doesn't care that they treat
women like second class citizens. He doesn't care
how many people they kill. He even has the U S sell
them weapons they want, so they can have a war with
a neighbor who doesn't agree with them. Trump
has sent thousands of U S troops there to protect
their oil facilities. Even though we no longer need
their oil. He wants them happy so they will continue
to be his friend, and spend lots of money on him. They
own a whole floor of this New York Trump tower. I
understand they paid Trump 50 million for that floor.

Now it's fine for Trump to make money for himself,
but not using the office of president to do so. This is
something Trump doesn't seem to understand. He
seems to think returning his salary is a big deal, but
it's the only money he can legally make as president.
Yet he works to make millions from the oval office.

His supporters might think this is cool, but it's against the
constitution. Trump took an oath on the Bible to keep the
laws, and protect the country, and the constitution. Yet he
was hardly in office at all before he broke his oath. An oath
he apparently  thinks is a joke.

It's time the GOP and his supporters wake up and stop
supporting a man who is nothing but a self serving
con artist who cares only for himself. The only great
thing he will ever do is great harm to our democracy.

His supporters might think stopping immigrants at
our boarder is a good thing, but this country was
built on the backs of immigrants, and everyone
but the American Indian is a descendant of a
immigrant. Even Trump.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 30, 2019, 12:45:50 pm

The republican party is playing with fire by supporting a lawless  president.
A party with only 29% of the population, they are  very dependent on
independents to win any election. A party who does little to support
the women of their party is a dangerous game. I personally know how
members of the GOP treat their women. They tell them how to vote, and
consider them good housekeepers and mothers, but don't want them
in government, because they care about people. Something that would
cost the rich supporters of the GOP money.

If you doubt this, just look at congress, and the senate. The GOP
members are almost all men. Not only men, but mostly white men,
with few minorities. Trump is working to move the party back to
the days of the 1950's. A time where black people were second
class citizens, women were expected to stay in the home, and
Gays  were considered to be godless criminals. Abortion was illegal,
and it may again be soon. Minorities were mostly used as an under
class of workers, by the upper middle class and the rich, mostly
for stoop labor.

In the past the far right was considered to radical too get anywhere in
politics, but with Trump they have gained a lot of power. A power  that
is dangerous to our democracy. Because they only want our country to
be controlled by rich white men. They claim they are for a free market
system, but they help big business get rid of competition instead. They
work  to increase profits on the backs of the poor. This worship of greed
will  not only damage the GOP, it will damage the country as well.

This "Deep State" the Far right, and Trump complain about is the
rule of law, and our constitution, not some secret class out to get
rid of Trump, and his Lilly white followers. The GOP senators haven't
the guts to stand up to Trump, and remove him from office. The only
way, will be to  vote him, and the gutless senators out of office.

If we don't, our country will no longer be the land of  the free,and
home of the brave. It will be the land of Trump instead, and Trump is
moving us closer to Russia. A country the far right apparently wants
to embrace. Because Putin appears to have a very conservative set
of laws. Laws that keep undesirables either in jail, or out of the public
eye. Something the far right and  Trump would like to have here.
This includes any and all rights of free speech. Because it threatens
those who break laws, and lie to stay in power.

If we just sit and  don't speak out, people like Trump will rule our
lives. Unfortunately most people just want to sit back and let the
world go by. Then when things go bad, they wonder why, and want
to blame others. I may be too concerned, as a personal friend has
told me, but just sitting and watching does little good. So expect
me to continue as long as I can, or until the 2020 election. After
that anything I say will do little good. Especially if the worst
happens and Trump is reelected. Then anyone speaking out
against him would be at risk.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 01, 2019, 12:44:07 pm

There is no evidence that people living on government aid are happy
with their life style. Oh I have heard the conspiracy theories that they
just sit and have kids. Even those that tell of people on food stamps
buying steaks for their dog, because food stamps won't pay for dog
food. This would be silly, I doubt if anyone would spend a limited
fund source on food that is much more expensive than a bag of
dry dog food. Food stamps is a co pay. They have to buy the
stamps, the cost is based on the money they have to spend.

I have also heard that some buy a  pack of gum to get the change
from a dollar food stamp. I am sure some people use every trick to
get money so they can buy things the stamps won't cover.

This is no excuse to punish everyone who depend on them because
a few try to cheat the system. Yet president Trump plays on his voters
ignorance. He wants to cut funding for food stamps and other government
aid that helps feed the poorest people in this country. Using the excuse
it's because of people cheating. Why, because he thinks his supporters
will like him for it. Because he knows they believe the conspiracy theories and
lies that circle the internet, and if he says it's true.

The GOP claims they are for a good economy, but when they cut aid for
the poor it hurts businesses in towns and cities across the nation. The
poor use the aid to buy food and other items they need. This benefits
small business, and discount stores like Walmart. Yet the GOP worries more
about tax hikes for the rich than the businesses who depend on spending
by the needy.

Trump claims he cares about kids, but cuts to food aid puts kids at health
risks due to not having enough to eat. The same can be said about the
GOP. Where are those in the GOP who claim to care about the unborn.
Shouldn't they care just as much about them after they are born?

People support Trump because he is working to stop abortion. These people
who hate abortion are hypocrites for the most part. In my state, the GOP
is doing their best to stop abortion in the state. They do it for votes, not
to save the unborn. I say this because they removed thousands of kids
from medicate roles, which has cost the lives of an untold number of
sick children. Yet the antiabortionists say nothing about this. So what's
their excuse for not caring about the born? Also they only blame doctors,
though doctors never do abortions unless the woman wants it done. Yet
the antiabortionist never go after women, just the doctors. Especially
the GOP and Trump, who appear to only care about votes.

The GOP is supporting Trump all the way. Nothing seems to
turn them against him. Oh I have heard them say it's because
their voters support Trump. Well when they tried to get rid of
Obama care, they ignored the fact most voters support Obama
care. They ignored the fact most people didn't support their tax
cut for the rich. They only seem to care if their rich supporters,
or voters care, even though their voters only constitute 29% of
the voters in the country. Trump doesn't appear to understand
that he is the leader of the country, not just the GOP. He has
done little or nothing to  appeal to anyone but the GOP voter.
This could cost him the election if nothing else can.

In the future when a democrat becomes president, I am
sure the GOP will have a fit if he or she acts in anyway
as Trump has. They don't seem to care that this possibility
exists. Otherwise they would hold Trump accountable, and
not hide their heads in the sand while he breaks laws and
misuses his constitutional powers, and ignores those of
congress.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 02, 2019, 12:51:25 pm

President Trump is flying to a NATO anniversary meeting in Britain today. 70th
If I heard right. Reports are Trump would like to help Putin of Russia with his
plan to dismantel the alliance. This is likely why Russia is working to help
Trump's reelection. Because with another four years Trump could get the
job done.

The GOP senators seem to support Russia's claims that Ukraine was the
guilty party, not Russia who attacked the 2016 election. Is this just a
support of Trump? Or have our GOP senators fell so much under Trumps
control they have to supportd Putin?  I wouldn't say this, but several
GOP senators went to Russia instead of home during a 4th of july period.
Something that seems pretty strange to me. At the very least, not very
patriotic.

The Ukrainian president had a  interview with Time Magazine. I really
don't see how we can believe anything he says about Trump. Because
he is depending on Trump for support and weapons with their fight against
Russian aggression. He should know by now any thing he says against
Trump could stop the aid they desperately need.

Of course Trump cherry picked one of his statements, where he implied
Trump didn't pressure him for the aid. Though his statements were rather
ambiguous over all. Trump still wants to say he cleared him of any wrong
doing. This is typical of Trump, and his con artist tactics.

The GOP and Trump continue to cry that the Democrats are being very unfair
with their impeachment proceedings. Yet Trump won't go or send anyone to
the hearing to defend his actions. He seems to fear it will give credibility to
the process. Something he doesn't want to do.

Trump calls the Democrats a do nothing party, yet he and his puppets in
the senate sits on over 300 bills passed by the democrats in the house. It's
more like the GOP is a do nothing party. They spent years doing little but
complain while Obama was in office, and not much more with Trump. All
moscow Mitch wants to do in the senate is to pack the federal court system
with conservative judges that will support the GOP and big business. They
only care about their rich  supporters and the money they get from them
to help them stay in power.

The do nothing GOP still have no plans to pass gun safety laws. They seem to
think it would cost them votes. In the 1990's Assault rifles were banned, but
when they got power the GOP removed the ban. Since then gun manufactures
have made hundreds of millions selling assault rifles to the general public. Now
there are over 10 million across the country. Obviously  the vast majority of
owners have no plans to do mass shootings with them, but I think they are
more of a novelty to most people. Because they are a poor gun to use for
hunting, and for self defense a hand gun would work better inside a house.

I am sure some feel if the government was to fail or we were invaded, these
types of weapons would be good to have. Well they best have a closet full of
ammo to go along with them, because they use bullets up and a hurry.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 04, 2019, 12:32:04 pm

The judicial committee hearings start today. To determine if president
Trump should be impeached. As usual GOP members are trying to protect
Trump, their King. They only complain about the process, because the facts
show Trump to  be guilty, not innocent as they wish to claim.

The actions of president Trump show him breaking his oath of office.
His puppet Attorney General works to protect him from any investigation
or crime he might commit. Trump has complained from the time of
each offense that he is perfect and innocent, he as president wants to
be immune from any offense, and tries to say the constitution gives
him that total power, which it most certainly does not.

It would be nice if we could listen in when Trump talks in private to his
GOP subjects. I think most people would be shocked. Trump  demands
total loyalty, and likely makes threats and bribes to get his way. During
a public meeting with his cabinet, each member including the vice
president did everything, but kneel and kiss Trumps feet.

The GOP and Trump both wish to claim it's all about   the Democrats
being mad over loosing the election in 2016. This is nothing but a
diversion as there is no evidence of this. During 2016 the GOP
started a investigation of Trump. When he got the nomination
they dropped it. The Democrats found out about it, and picked
it up. Of course the GOP want to claim the it was wholly started
by the Democrats. Since then the GOP and Trump have worked
to make any complaint about Trump a Democrat issue, so it
can be called partisan.

It's very likely the GOP members of the senate will do as Trump
demands, and vote to keep him in office. They fear loss of financial
aid to be reelected, and to be called unpatriotic scum by Trump on
twitter, and when he talks to news reporters.

This all boils down to protecting the constitution and the rule of
law in our country. Not the Democrats, or Republicans, or even
bless his heart Trump, but our democracy. If Trump was a true
patriot he would resign, but he cares only about himself, his
pocket book, and his pride. Not the rights of us all, or our
country. As bad as president Nixon was, he at least was
a patriot, and resigned for the good of the country.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 05, 2019, 12:51:17 pm

Trump complains his impeachment is disruptive to  his job as
president. This is just Trump blowing hot air. Nixon, and Clinton
both continued doing their job as president while under  investigation. 
 So perhaps we should ask, why can't Trump do his job? Is this proof
he isn't good enough to do the job of president?

When asked why the Democrats don't wait to let the voters
decide to remove Trump. They explain Trump wants to misuse his
presidential powers to win in 2020. So they must expose him,
even though they know the GOP won't likely remove him.
Otherwise each time Trump gets away with his criminal acts
he will do more. He plays to dictators around the world, and
turns against our allies. Why? Because dictators will pay for
Trumps help, and democracies won't.

The speaker of the house is calling for the Judicial committee to
go ahead and vote on articles of impeachment. Then to have
the house it's self vote to send them to the senate. President
Trump is in a hurry for his GOP puppets to vindicate him once
the actual impeachment trial in the senate begins. Trump
doesn't want a real trial, because it would bring out all of
his misdeeds. Instead he expects them to just vote to
declare him innocent, so he can go out to his rally's
and claim his defeat of the Democrats, his innocence,
and that he has been vindicated. Not only by the Mueller
investigation, but for his actions with Ukraine.

Of course his supporters will cheer him, as all good cult
members do for their leader. They don't seem  to understand
that he has them by the nose. He will say what they want
to hear, while he proceeds with his plan to enrich himself
and his family. He  cares not for them, or the country. He
only does enough to keep their support and nothing else.

It is sad how he is using Nationalism to benefit himself.
He gave the Turkish leader permission to enter Syria. Likely
to protect his financial interests in Turkey. During his campaign
he admitted he would want to protect his interests there, and
apparently has. The sad thing is his supporters don't seem to
care that his decision will and has cost thousands of lives. They
don't seem to care that Trump is costing lives in Ukraine.
They don't seem to care when he harms immigrant children.

He does all this to feed the needs of Nationalists in our country.
Because he wants their votes. They cheer each time he argues
with foreign leaders. They like it when he appears to stand strong
against other country's, while claiming it's to help the U S A.

Nationalism has it's appeal, but we live on a planet where we must
exist with other cultures and people. To deny this endangers us and
our economy. Yes we need to work toward fair trade, so we aren't
taken advantage of. The problem is Trump isn't smart enough to
do this. If he was, how come he is one of the poorest billionaires
in the country? How come he has gone bankrupt 4 times? How
come his credit is so bad, he has to go to Russia to borrow
money? Having a president who is dependent on how he gets
along with other countries for his finantual health can only
lead to decisions to benefit him first, and the country second. 

All this puts the GOP in a box, where they want to keep control
of the white house even though their president is so corrupt
they can't even deny his guilt. Instead they attack his opponents
on process, and not the facts that surround their president.

Though the GOP will vote to keep their King, we can hope good
voters will understand that a vote for Trump is a vote that will
destroy our democracy. Because Trump will continue with his
personal needs over that of the people, and country. Moscow Mitch
of the senate will continue to fill the courts with corrupt judges who
will support the rich over the common man or woman. So we must
win the senate as well. The GOP wants to say government aid is
socialism, but if we don't many will suffer needlessly, while the
rich fill their pockets with money.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 06, 2019, 12:42:01 pm

Though we need the news media to safeguard our democracy,
I wish they didn't try to create so much controversy. Yes it sells
news, but even though Trump bad mouths  the media all the time,
he uses their passion for controversy to gain the spotlight over his
opponents.

The Democrats must use Trumps tactics against him. Or he will use
them as he did in 2016. Though he just squeaked out a win then,
he has spent the last 3 years trying to create passion among his
voters, so they will come out in huge numbers to support him.

Trump and the GOP continue trying to say the Democrats aren't
doing anything but try to impeach the president. Yet they have
passed over 400 bills during the last 11 months. 250 of them
are sitting on moscow Mitch's desk waiting for him to put them
up for a vote.

So if anything it's the GOP and their King Trump who are doing
nothing. The GOP putting corrupt judges on the federal bench,
and Trump is out trying to make money for himself and family.

Trump bad mouths Joe Biden for helping his son get a job in
Ukraine, yet he, Trump, has been helping his kids make money
using  his office as president. Trump has done his best to turn the
presidency in to a family business. Giving his family jobs even
though they aren't fit to do them. While helping his friends
make money as well.

I am sure his supporters want to point at his tariffs on China
and other countries as proof of his good works. Well these
tariffs cost Americans more money than anyone else. If I
were still in business, the tariffs would be increasing costs
to my customers by 25%. Also they are putting family farms
on the auction block. Farms who have been held for generations,
until Trump's tariffs put them out of business.

Some might say we have to stand with Trump even if
it hurts. Well some farmers who lost everything have
committed suicide. Something we shouldn't be proud of.

The so called great deal Trump made with Canada, and
Mexico does little to change the deal we already had. Trump
makes big claims, with little or no good results. It just shows
how bad a business man he really is. In the past he would
start a business, then forget about it. Expecting it to run
it's self while he played games. Now he plays golf while
his cronies do a poor job for our government.

His wall with Mexico, a wall Mexico is supposed to pay for,
will never be built, perhaps a hundred miles or so, and it's
not even strong enough to  stop anyone who wants to cut
through it. So it may deter a few immigrants, it won't stop
anyone moving drugs across the boarder. His wall is nothing
more then a political waste of money he is using to get votes.
Mexico, by the way will never pay for it.

Trump during his campaign claimed the world is laughing at
us, and he would gain respect for the country if elected. Well
this was just another of his 14,000 lies. At the NATO meeting
Trump himself was laughed at. Not only is Trump not building
respect for our country, he is bowing to Russia's leaders by
backing down and supporting their claims over those of our
experts. An act of a coward rather than a man of strength.

The trouble with submitting to a dictator is each time they get their way, they
do something worse. So Russia's leaders will continue trying to reelect Trump
because he will submit to their will. It's anyones guess why Trump works for
Russia's benefit, but it's likely money related.

When a Russian hit man shot and killed a man in Germany, Trump didn't
do anything to punish Russia. Russia has done several things over the past
3 years with little or no response from Trump.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 07, 2019, 12:56:21 pm

It appears the Democrats will vote to send articles of impeachment to
the senate by the end of this year. Unfortunately many if not all of the
GOP senators have already decided to vote no, instead of waiting to
see all the evidence against president Trump.

They may feel they must do this to save them selves from a blistering
attack by Trump. Well if they really do vote to keep the most corrupt
president ever in the white house. Then they will be complicit and in
agreement with every illegal act Trump commits. They best hope Trump
doesn't commit a crime that turns people against him, because if he
does, the republican party will suffer the biggest loss since their
inception. Because by voting to keep a known criminal, makes
them just as guilty as he is.

This includes the American voters. Though their guilt won't likely
cost them much harm initially. The loss to the country and eventually
their rights under a lost democracy, will harm them and their children
for many years to come. No longer will they be able to complain about
government with immunity as we do today. Once authoritarian rule
takes over, we will be subject to his every whim. Just as people are
in Russia, and China today.

I am sure many of those who are in the far right think  having a president
with unlimited power should be a good thing. Perhaps it might in the
beginning, but power corrupts, making a good man bad once greed
takes over, no matter how well intention a person is. 

When country's were run by kings, the man on the throne could be very
well liked, but men don't live forever, and often they were replaced by
men of greed, and they often destroyed a land once prosperous and
good for their own benefit, and eventually them selves. Usually those
who suffered the most, were the small businesses and the poor with a
collapsing  economy.

Trump is riding a wave of an economy I feel is artificially high. Just like
an ocean wave that crests without support, it will likely collapse in the
near future. Trouble is it may not occur until 2021, and if Trump still
has the reins of power he will have no idea how to fix it. Taxes are already
so low a further reduction would likely do little to help.

I fear the GOP and Trump wouldn't be willing to spend money to help
anyone but the rich. The economy isn't based on the billionaires, but
small businesses, and the man or woman who works hard to support
them selves and a family. I really don't think those in the GOP leadership
understand this or even care.

During the great depression of the 1930's  It was Franklin Roosevelt,
a Democrat who helped keep our country from falling into the hands
of communism. Yes there was a movement toward full socialism in
this country. With 25% of people out of work, and hunger rampant in
the streets of cities, people were willing to accept anything.

It was Roosevelt who fought for the little guy, not the GOP who were
still wanting to work for the rich man, and let the poor fend for
themselves. This if not for Roosevelt, could have put a end to our
country as a free market system, but more like Russia with  a
dictatorial leadership.

We must hold all our politicians accountable. If we don't they will
work not for us, but for themselves. This is why we need term limits
to keep corruption out of government, or at least limit it. People who
crave power will lie and cheat to get it, and do anything to keep it.
We must not believe a man who hides his crimes under claims of
political power. We should demand he stand willing to show his
innocence with proof, and not by trying to blame everyone else. 

I know many in the GOP like, and want to believe Trump because
he does things they like. But we should not accept a corrupt man
just for a few things we like. Instead we should strive for someone
better. Even if it takes a while. We must protect our democracy, or
we will lose much more than we will gain.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 08, 2019, 12:56:30 pm

Since the Justice department was taken over by Trump and the GOP, it hasn't
done a good job of protecting minority rights. If Trump stays in office it's
likely it won't get any better, because the far right only want Trump to protect
Lilly white religious gun toting Americans. Not the LGBTQ or minority's.

We can only wonder what Trump wants to hide. He wants to say he  was totally
open with the Mueller investigation. This of course is a lie. He hides his tax
returns, by putting loyal people in office to  protect him. Trump has misused
the powers of the president to protect himself and friends, ever since he
took office, and he  will continue to do  so as long as he is there.

The GOP claim they  want iron clad evidence that Trump is guilty, or they
won't believe anything bad about  him. No matter the evidence, as long as
he claims he didn't do it, they will stand by him. I get the feeling he would
have to stand up  at one of his rally's and admit his crimes before they would
do anything to remove him from office. Then I think the GOP leadership
would try to talk him out of admitting it.

The GOP is now wanting to feel sorry for Trump. He has been treated so bad.
Well Trump has caused every bit of any trouble he has had since taking office.
It's not about his crappy ideas, it's his breaking of laws and his oath of office
that is getting him in trouble. The GOP want to claim the Democrats are at
fault, and bend over backward to protect Trump, and look the other way
each time he breaks the law. This includes the crimes of his cronies, and
some of them are going to jail.

If Trump didn't have the support of his attorney general, and the GOP
he would have been removed 2 years ago. Governors and Mayors all
have been removed from office and gone to  jail for doing things
Trump is guilty of. The only difference is a sitting president can't
be indicted due to a claim by the justice department. That doesn't
mean he is innocent of anything. Even if he isn't removed from
office because the GOP won't vote to impeach him. It doesn't mean
he is innocent as impeachment only removes a president. It doesn't
make him innocent, and can still be charged with any crime he is
guilty of after leaving office.

He has already claimed he can pardon himself if he thinks he will
be charged with a crime after leaving office. He just might get by
with it, since the supreme court is likely on his side. At least the
two judges he put there probably are. We can only hope he doesn't
get a chance to  appoint another.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 09, 2019, 01:07:52 pm

It is very sad that a major political party like the GOP would let themselves be
corrupted by a  president who obviously cares only for himself. A man who
works to help a dangerous opponent of our country namely Putin of Russia. Even to
pressure  Ukraine, an ally that is defending it's self against this same opponent.
Using unproven  theories as an excuse to withhold desperately needed military
aid for that country.  Only to benefit himself, and a dangerous enemy of our
country. Apparently for some  unknown reason. A reason Trump has worked
hard to cover up.

There are reports that in private many in the GOP don't like Trump, but fear
his attacks which might cost them their seat in congress and the senate. So
they feel they have to stand up for him. They risk a backlash for failing to
stand up for the constitution and the law. Though many like some of what
Trump has done. Many do see him as a danger to our democracy as he
defends Russia, a historical enemy of ours.

Those in the GOP claim the president of Ukraine said he wasn't pressured.
Well with a virtual gun to  his head, I don't think he would admit anything
that might harm his country. Trump said in his conversation he wanted
a favor. I don't think any president would risk loss of needed aid to
not help a man like Trump, much less admit it.

The GOP have made many claims of unfairness by  the Democrats with
the impeachment process. Yet each time their so called concerns are
taken care of, they come up with another one. During each of the
hearings GOP members use every method of disruption they can
think of. They demand votes just to disrupt the hearing as they know
how the vote will come out. They support Trump and his cover up of
first hand evidence, claiming that evidence would be unfairly handled
by the Democrats.

The GOP claim the impeachment by the Democrats is a big waste
of tax payer money, but want to forget the millions they spent
with one investigation after another of H. Clinton in the past.
Investigations that were clearly political, and admitted so by a
GOP congressman in public.

The GOP said this impeachment is unfair, because Trump received
63 million votes in 2016. They forgot to mention his opponent got
nearly 3 million more, and only lost due to our antiquated system
of electing a president with state electors instead of a popular vote. 

The GOP said it was bad because this impeachment is happening
during the holiday season. They apparently forgot their impeachment
of President Clinton was during the holidays as well. 

I could go on, but it's obvious the GOP is only interested  in protecting
their president and not the facts or the truth, and will do everything
they can to convince the public Trump is innocent with their misleading
statements. They have no shame, they only want to hold power without
concern for the law or the constitution as it applies to Trump, their King.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 10, 2019, 01:06:42 pm

Trumps attorney general Barr continues to support Trump's claims
that his campaign was improperly attacked by the FBI. We should
ask why Barr feels he must protect Trump and not the people of
our country.  Why does he still claim Trump has no connection
with Russia. Even though many of his top people have been shown
to have been. Trump is a man who runs everything. If someone working
for him is doing something wrong, it's very likely Trump is behind it.

The attorney general Trump first picked, would not support Trump's
claims, so Trump fired him and hired Barr, a man who appears to think
the president is a virtual king, and can't be investigated,  or do wrong.
Not only that he appears to follow Trumps every command. He works
tirelessly trying to prove conspiracy theories Trump apparently wants
to believe. This is wrong, and Barr should be removed. He has no
business being a attorney general period. Trump seems to think
the department of justice works for him, and no one else.

Trump supporters feel he can do no wrong, because he appears to
support their wishes. Well he only does what it takes to keep his
voters happy. Even if he has to tell lies to convince them that he
cares. They seem to forget all the promises he made, because
they want to keep him in the white house.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 11, 2019, 12:55:52 pm

A hearing in the senate where the GOP is attacking the
FBI, for what they are calling a illegal investigation of the
Trump campaign. This is just the GOP trying to divert
attention from the impeachment process. Hoping to
confuse the public for the party's protection.

Trumps corruption of the GOP is more proof we need term
limits for senators, and representatives. Of course those
in power are against anything that might affect or diminish
that power.  It wasn't until Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat
was elected to 4 terms that the GOP worked to set a 2 term
limit on presidents. A limit that was good for the country. Not
just for the GOP, who feared it might happen again.

I find it interesting that the GOP, a party who was the most anti
Russian party of our country, has turned around, apparently so
they can agree with president Trump their king.  To deny further
actions by Russia to affect the 2020 election, smacks of a  lack of
patriotism for the country. We can only wonder if they will become
patriots again when Trump is no longer president. Or are they only
interested in political power and not the country? Hopefully voters
will remove any politician who cares more for himself than
our country.  The problem is power hungry people will do
anything to stay in power even if they must deceive
the voting public to do so.

I think we can depend on Trump doing everything  in his power as
president to get reelected. It likely matters  not  if it's legal or
constitutional. The GOP will likely continue to claim Trump is innocent,

because they want to use his political support to hold on to power.
Some might think this is just politics, but it's dishonest, and  they
should be punished for it. The GOP should stand for the constitution
and their oath of office, not a corrupt president.
 
With all their defense of Trump they avoid the facts that show his
guilt, and attack the Democrats for a so called unfair process. Their
attacks are full of hypocrisy, because if the situation was reversed
they would be on fire trying to remove a Democrat.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 12, 2019, 12:45:23 pm

I am not a big fan of Joe Biden, but the claims by
Trump and the GOP have been disprove, Yet they
will say anything to please Trump, their King.

The GOP cries, Ukraine got their aid, and Trump didn't
 pressure them. Well even if we want to accept
this misleading claim by the GOP. Trump has
abused his power by ignoring lawful subpoenas
from the house of representatives. Forcing court
judgements the White House knows they will lose.

In other words they are just stalling with the hope
it will take so long Trump will face election before
the public finds out the truth.

I sometimes wonder when watching these hearings,
when the GOP  member gets his time to speak he or
 she seems to think we are all  hard of  hearing. 
Perhaps they forget they have a microphone, and
want the world to hear every word they scream out.

This act of shouting is hardly needed, but perhaps
they teach it in law school. Perhaps it's a way to
convince people of a lie, by using intimidation.

Perhaps all this hyperbole by the GOP members
is to get a pat on the head by Trump their king.
So he will help fund their reelection, and not try
to have them removed from office. 

I can understand how Trump can deceive his
supporters, but people in the GOP leadership
who really know what is true still publicly support
Trump. A man who thinks south Korea should move
it's capital, a city the size of New York farther away
 from the north Korean boarder. An absolutely stupid
idea from a man who could order a nuclear attack on
another country at a moments notice. He even
wanted to move all American citizens out of south
Korea it's self. Something that would likely cause
north Korea to think we were planning an invasion
as soon as our people were out of danger.

These people in the GOP have to be just as crazy to
support a man who thinks moving a city of 25 million
is realistic. At what point will the GOP come to  their
senses, and admit Trump is a danger not only to our
country, but to the world.

So far, only those people who understand the dangers
Trump could put us in, have stopped these childish
plans of his. If he is reelected, reports are Trump will
likely pull us out of NATO. Leaving Europe to defend
it's self against Russia. I am sure many shortsighted
people think it's no big deal what Russia does, but it
will lead to war. A war we won't be able to stay out of,
and very likely end up being a nuclear war that may
destroy us all.

The GOP is willing to put the world at risk just to hold on to
political power. I am beginning to think some of them actually
believe their lies, and misleading statements. Perhaps like  a
friend of mine, they feel everything will work out just fine.
Because they think they can control Trump. We can only
hope Trump does have controls. Because Trump is playing
with every life we hold dear if they don't.

If the GOP get their way, and they will likely vote to keep
Trump their king in the White House. I hope every GOP
senator who votes to keep Trump, who is up for reelection
loses, including Moscow Mitch. The corrupt leader of the 
Senate.

When will people see Trump for what he is. A self serving
con artist, who lies and cheats for power and personal
gain. All this would be bad enough, but he isn't smart
enough to do the job, and likely suffers from dementia.
Trump wouldn't be the first man with medical problems
to be president, and like Trump, their supporters worked
to cover it up. But in the case of mental problems it could
be a danger to us all.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 13, 2019, 01:10:35 pm

It appears the house will vote to pass 2 articles of impeachment for
Donald J. Trump, our president. Moscow Mitch, the GOP leader of the
Senate has already said he will run the trial as directed by Trump, his
King. This is more proof of GOP corruption in our government. The
Senate is supposed to have a trial for the people, not to benefit Trump
or the GOP.

Trump continues his rants and raving about how terrible the Democrats
are over his impeachment. To hear him talk, he is the greatest president
ever. Trump has spent the last 2 1/2 years claiming to be a victim of the
bad old Democrats. He wants to claim it's about their loss in 2016. Trump
blames the FBI, because they investigated his campaign. A campaign using
several people who have been indicted and some convicted of crimes against
our country. People Trump calls great and unfairly treated. Well it's typical of
corrupt people to hire others like themselves. and Trump has hired a lot of
them.

Many people may have watched the red faced arguments by the GOP,
and felt perhaps they must be right. Thinking, how could anyone work
so  hard, and be dishonest. People should be paying attention to the
facts, not how politicians talk. Because they are professionals at
misleading people. This is why we need term limits. To keep most
of the professional politicians at home where they can't use public
office  to enrich themselves. Being in government should be a service
not a career.

Professional politicians will claim they are there to work for the
people, but when the camera is gone, and the microphones are
off, not all, but a few revert to being self serving criminals. The
longer they stay, the more they tell themselves that they are
there for the good of the people. A typical failing of human
nature.

People may look at our rich politicians, and think they must
be smart, or they wouldn't be rich. This is rarely true, because
riches are often gained by good luck, and the drive to be rich.
This drive often leads to dishonesty. So in reality rich people
are generally a poor choice to make laws, or make decisions
that effect our lives. Because they will look out for themselves
over the good of the average person, or even the country.

I have seen this when I was in business. I knew a businessman
who cheated his workers to make a few extra bucks. He was 
caught, and had to make reparations, He continued his business
and made a lot of money. But at heart he still cared more about
himself than people around him. Unfortunately people like this
decide to  run for political office, and instead of using their
drive for success to do a good job for the people, they work
to enrich themselves.

The Democrats passed a bill that would require the government  to negotiate
 drug prices with drug providers. It was sent to the senate, who are
working on their own bill that won't help reduce drug prices, because
Trump said he wouldn't sign the bill by the Democrats, because the
drug companies claim the bill will cost them so much they wouldn't
be able to bring new drugs to market. This has been their claim  every
time price controls of any kind  show up in congress. A lie they feed the
public to keep prices and profits high. They aren't going to stop creating
new drugs as long as there is money to be made, no
matter what they claim.

If their claims were true, why are their prices so much lower elsewhere
in the world? It's because other country's won't let them gouge the
public like they do here in the U S, and as long as the GOP is in
control the drug  companies will  get their way.

The GOP claim they are for free markets, yet they help the big drug
companies by passing laws that kill off competition for the drug
companies. Competition that would force the big drug companies
to lower prices. So they pay GOP members of congress to protect
them. Why the GOP? Because the GOP is a party that works to
help big business, and the rich.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 14, 2019, 01:16:43 pm

The GOP has lost not only elections but almost 50 members due to resignations
since Trump took office. These people are true republicans who think more of
the country than supporting a corrupt president. It is a shame so many in the
party want to ignore Trumps unconstitutional acts. To ignore his grab for money.
His work to aid Russia. Much of what the GOP approve now they were completely
against before Trump was elected.

Trump is using the GOP for his own benefit. Using his power to bribe and
threaten them if they don't support his ever act. Using his power to pardon
as a way to lead people into crime, with promises of presidential protection.
Perhaps it the fear of losing power than keeps the GOP in line, but we
should be glad these people aren't soldiers because they would turn
us over to the enemy to protect them selves.

So we can expect the GOP senators to vote NO to remove Trump from
office. Not because he is innocent, but because they want to  keep
their seat in the Senate. They know Trump would try to have every
Senator who voted against him loose their seat, and would spend
millions trying.

It appears the GOP likes the idea of foreign interference in our elections.
Because they think it's how Trump won, and carried many in the party to
be elected, or reelected. The GOP being a minority party that depends on
dirty tricks to get elected have no qualms allowing other countries to help
them stay in power.

The GOP is working to stop the progressive movement in our  country.
They are doing this by filling the federal court system  with conservative
judges. Judges that will give little or no support to minorities, the 
LGBTQ community, or women's rights.  We can already see their drive
to stop all abortions. Not to save lives, but for votes, because they
continue cutting aid for families and children.

Though the GOP has leaned toward this in the past. I think it was
the election of Obama, a black man to the  white house that  has
moved the GOP farther to the far  right than ever. With the GOP's
desire for power they allowed the Tea party in. An extremely far
right group who saw Obama as a threat to white America. So they
and the GOP did their best to  make Obama a one term president.

This has pulled the GOP so far to the right, they have lost their
way, They claim they are for the majority, this so called majority
is non existent for the GOP who at best have only 40% of the
country. Unless they can attract independents they often loose
elections. Also they depend on women, and Trumps attacks on
families and children is costing their support. The GOP and Trump
should remember the nearly 2 million women showed up the day
after his inauguration in protest, and Trump went out of his way
to ignore them.

Trump has spent most of his time in office accusing the Democrats
of attacking him. He has political rally's time after time. As if he started
running for reelection the day he took office. This playing the victim
seems to be his way to gain a sympathy vote. So when he breaks his
oath of office he tries to blame someone else, no matter how nonsensical
it is.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 15, 2019, 01:10:40 pm

\Nationalism is a cancer on any country. It's nothing but selfish acts 
against neighbors. There isn't anything wrong with wanting to
protect our way of life, but if we can't get along with other countries
we will hurt our selves. Nationalism has been tried in the past, but
it always ends up hurting. The big trouble is at the heart of Nationalism,
in that it's wanting to blame others for ones own problems. Blaming others
never solves anything. Trump is wanting to use Nationalism, not for our
good, but for his.

  I think Trump could have been a fair president, but he is so self centered
he feels he can do what ever he wants, and unfortunately does. As I felt
in the past, Trump won't accept a loss. Not only that he wants to be
president till he decides to leave. Perhaps even to create a Trump
dynasty, where he could pass the job to his descendants.

Perhaps those in the GOP really want a Royal Family running  our
country, but they will regret it. Because if Trump manages to fix
our government for his benefit and his rich cronies. The rest of
us will just be dirt under their feet, because he won't even need
our votes any more. 

Trump talks to Putin of Russia often. Is he asking for advice? Who 
can say. Trump hides his conversations with Putin and others, so
we can't know unless the supreme court forces him to release
them. And if Trump were to win the 2020 election, he would
likely put 2 more justices in the supreme court. Then the court
could be in his pocket for sure.

As long as the GOP feels they and they alone must run the
country, the majority must stand against them. Trump is
working to fix the military, by removing Generals who he
feels oppose him, and replaces them with those who
support him. Is this a plan where he can take over
the country if the voters try to remove him and
the GOP? I really hope not, because that could in
fact start a real civil war.

When Trump was attending the Army Navy football
game. Some cadets apparently signed a symbol of
white power with their hands. If true, and nothing is
done to correct this, we are in real trouble. I can imagine
Putin telling Trump how to keep power,  and support
by the military is at it's heart.

I think Trump, and the far right and their racial bigotry
should move to Russia and join with their friends there.
Because the world they want is very much the same 
as Putin preaches. Perhaps they could create that
great country they claim they want. Unless of court
Putin puts them in jail, or sends them to Siberia.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 16, 2019, 12:55:32 pm

In spite of what the GOP wants to claim, Trump should face
impeachment, and removal. The evidence shows he was and
is using the  office of the president to aid his reelection. He is
also guilty of abuse of power by refusing orders by congress
to supply relevant data, and people to testify. An obvious
attempt to hide the truth from the American public.

The GOP leader of the senate claims Trumps exoneration is in the
bag. I am hoping the public will see a fast track to save Trump by
the GOP, will show it to be the sham it is. Just to save the White
house for the GOP, and nothing else. To show the GOP will do
anything to hold power. Even if they must break their oath
and defy the constitution to do it.

I am sure many GOP supporters think it's okay, and the ends
justify the means. Well I am sure the radicals who use the GOP
only care about what they want, and the rest of the country
can just live with it. I fear if Trump does win, he will put us
all in a much worse condition, because great to him is all
about him and his rich friends.

Well it seems our president is micromanaging the war in Afghanistan
again. This might be okay, but Trump isn't smart enough to know
he needs to ask the experts first, and use their advice before
making decisions that puts a lot of people at risk. As is he plans
to evacuate all of our troops out before the election. This political
move by Trump puts our troops and those of our allies at risk. It
also makes any deal with the opposition there all but impossible.
Because by knowing we are leaving anyway, there is no reason
to make any kind of deal for our safe withdrawal. Trump just
wants to be able to say. "I got us out of Afghanistan, just as
I said I would". He only wants to win, and cares about
nothing else.

If we don't bring the people out who helped us there, they will
face execution, and torture. Some of Trumps supporters might
not care, but the next time we go into a war, few if any in the
theater will offer to help us.

As I have said in the past, Trump is just like a stupid bar fly who
thinks simple fixes fix any problem. When he has a rally he only
wants supporters to attend. Well if he doesn't gain new supporters
he will loose. Perhaps he thinks all he needs to do is get more of
his supporters out to vote. I suppose more people will vote for
him this time around, but Hopefully for the sake of our democracy
more will oppose him. 

The News media loves all the controversy over the impeachment
of president Trump. Because it sells. The commentators and talking
heads are just giddy. Not to say they don't take it serious, most just
enjoy it over dry news about government work.

I wish though, when they interview people about who they support, they
would ask them why they do, or not. Because just liking or not liking
someone doesn't say anything about the person they are talking about.
Yes it is more difficult to get someone to say why, but it is much more
informative. Also it could show their support or not isn't due to the
facts, but for party allegiance. Which in many cases shows a lack of
interest in government.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 17, 2019, 12:23:02 pm

Moscow Mitch stood up to bellyache about the senate minority
leader for proposing that the senate during the trial to call 4
witnesses. Witnesses that  president Trump wouldn't let testify.
in the house hearings. This appears to me that Trump called
Moscow Mitch to say he didn't want these people made to say
anything about him. So the senate leader bent to Trumps will,
and won't likely allow any vote that would require these people
to show up.

The last thing Trump wants is a honest trial in the senate. From
the time he took office he has worked to corrupt our system of
government, because he knows if he didn't he could not get by
with corrupt acts himself.

So the cover up continues. Trump with the help of the GOP has
worked to hide any and all evidence against him. I think we can
be sure the Trump puppets in the senate will vote to keep Trump
in the white house. Why? Apparently because they the GOP knows
what is best for our country. Which according to them is the rich,
and big corporations. Entities who's sole purpose is to run this
country in a way that makes them the most money.

This is something the Democrats generally won't go along with.
So to continue to get money from the rich the GOP must work
to keep power at any cost. Legal or not. Even if they have to
break their oath of office or the constitution.

At the beginning of Trumps term, many in the GOP still stood
for the country, but over the past 3 years Trump has either by 
bribes or threats corrupted the GOP. Those members that saw
a failed election in their future  resigned. The good ones
resigned and are speaking out against Trump, and their
regrets for the party they once loved.

Trump has spent the last 3 years with rally's and the conservative
media has worked hard to keep him in office. All Trump has to
do is be against immigration, the LGBTQ, gun laws, and abortion
to keep the Far Right support. He wanted to punish women for
having abortion,  but party leaders told him that would cost too
many votes from women.  So he backed away from that. But
women should see Trump for what he is. A man who see's
women as objects to be used, and not  respected. Unfortunately
many in the GOP feel the same way.

The GOP over the last several weeks have complained time
and time again that the Democrats are unfair, and each time their
claim is unfounded they come up with another excuse. Instead of
complaining when Trump fails to provide witnesses and evidence
they holler, and blame the Democrats when they should be asking
Trump what he is hiding, This isn't politics, it's breaking the law and
defying the constitution by the GOP, and Trump their King.

The claim by the GOP of not enough evidence is a sham, otherwise
they would stand with the Democrats and against Trump to get all
available evidence from the white house, and not make excuses
for Trump.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 18, 2019, 12:48:59 pm

The house of representatives are having a floor debate,
and vote to impeach president Trump today. The GOP
want to  claim it's based on hear say evidence. Yet
when Trump refuses to let subpoenaed witnesses and
documents  released to hearings that would likely
show direct evidence of guilt. They claim their
president has the right to claim executive privilege.
es he does, but during Trumps own campaign, he
said people should use no excuse to cover up evidence
as he has done as president.

Yes the Democrats could have gone to court to over
ride Trumps claim, but that would take months, when
Trump is obviously doing this to cover up his crimes.
If Trump had no record of hiding evidence in the past
there would be a much better reason to wait. But he
lies constantly, because this has worked for him in the
past.

The GOP claim the Democrats should not impeach Trump
because he won the election. Yet they and Trump want to
forget Trump lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. 
Something that drives Trump to distraction. So soon after
his inauguration Trump wanted to prove it was due to
illegal voting,and failed to do so.

The GOP continue to  claim the Democrats are so unfair. This is
interesting, Because when the GOP has power they step on the
minority without fail. They complain about closed door hearings.
But when in power they use it to shut us all out of the process.
They hide in closed meetings where they plan to mislead the
public about those they fear might defeat them honestly.

Every time a GOP member of congress speaks  out for
president Trump. It's to please Trump their King. To get
his praise. A pat on the head while telling them how
good a job they did, but if he doesn't approve he calls
them  names. Something they fear most of all. 

When Trump was running for president, he claimed he
would work hard and not waste time playing golf like
Obama did.  So isn't it interesting that Trump has spent
almost a third of his time as president at his golf resorts.
 Oh yes, and working hard to Trump is 9-5 Monday
through Thursday, and Friday if he can't get away. I must
admit he does invite foreign dignitaries occasionally to
stay at his resorts. Not free though as Trump expects
to make money if nothing else.

He does invite friends to share a game of golf, but
they soon learn  Trump has to win the games if they
wish to please him.  Many of those who have played
golf with Trump have told others Trump  cheats at
golf, and drives his golf  cart on the greens. Of  course
since Trump owns the course  no one is going to
complain.

When Trump travels he always wants to stay
at his own resorts. This is so he can pocket the
money he charges the government to  stay at
them. This is where he disregards the constitution, 
which says  a president can't use his office for
personal gain, be it domestically,  or foreign.
For some reason neither the GOP or his
supporters mind his disregard for the
constitution.

Somehow I don't think if a Democrat
president was to do this the GOP would 
be so generous, much less others in
the party.

This is only one of many times he disregards
laws, and the constitution. Not counting breaking
his oath of office, where he swore to uphold the
laws of the country and the constitution. Seems
his supporters don't  mind because he supports
many of the things they want a president to do. 
It is sad when people are willing to  support a
man who disregards  the law, and the constitution,
just to get what they want.  This  makes them and
the GOP just as guilty as he is.

One day they may  regret  this, because  accepting
help from a foreign  government  as Trump does,
can work both ways,  and  one day foreigners may
want to  help  Democrats instead. And I am sure
when thathappens  the GOP will cry we must impeach.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 19, 2019, 12:56:03 pm

We have IMPEACHMENT of President Trump.

Now the Senate under Moscow Mitch wants to call it a political
move by the Democrats. So since the GOP has a simple majority
he claims game over. No defense by the president   needed. No
witnesses needed. The president said he is innocent, and that's
all we need to know. He is the leader of our party so to the
Democrats, and the constitution, we thumb our noses.

The speaker of the house says she will wait to see what rules
the GOP controlled senate decide to use before submitting the
articles of impeachment. So we will have to wait and see what
Trump tells Moscow Mitch, and how he wants him to run the trial.

Even though the media is making a big deal out of this so called
delay. The speaker has to know what the senate wants, before
she can properly proceed. I am sure the conservative media, 
Trump and the GOP will brow beat her until she submits the
articles to the senate.

For the GOP it's all about keeping the White House. Because
they want to continue putting conservative Judges on federal
courts. Something they can't do without the white house. They
know it's the courts with their judges that can't easily be removed.
Who can hold the GOP policies in place. Even if they don't have
the white house or congress. Now with a conservative majority in
the supreme court. Something they have wanted since forever,
they feel they can stop the progressive movement in our country.

Everyone who depends on the government for their lively hood is
at risk, because the GOP wants to stop all government aid. Returning
to the days where city streets are fill with beggars, not just adults,
but children as well, and the old  sent to live in homes where they
grow sick and die. It wouldn't surprise me if we  see work houses
in our  future, and laws to replace bankruptcy with prison.

I am sure most think this will never happen again, but it wasn't
that long ago when this existed here in the good old U S A. It
wasn't till people got tired of letting the rich run their lives, that
it was changed. I fear it will have to happen all over again, with
millions suffering to please the billionaires. In the past it was the
millionaires,  and before that is was land owners with slaves.

It starts with conservatism, not so much bad  people, but people
who want to blame the disadvantaged   for their problems, and
those of the country. It is true some people are lazy, but it's a
much smaller number than politicians like Trump want to claim.
He uses this ignorance to gain support for a conspiracy that he
and the GOP claim,  must change to save our  economy, and the
country. If people sit back and allow corrupt politicians like Trump
and some in the GOP to stay in power, it will be they who ruin the
country for us all. Because the corrupt only stay, at the will of the
people.

No one will make a perfect president or congress person. If someone
is elected who turns out bad, then replace them. No one is indispensable.
it's about the country, not any man or woman who may be in political
office. So vote for those who are honest, because those who lie, only
wish to help themselves and not you or the country.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 20, 2019, 12:50:05 pm

The Democrats tagged Trump with impeachment, and boy, he doesn't
like it. Reports are he is so mad he can't hardly talk. Especially sense
a woman, the speaker of the house is making him wait. Trump wants
to stand up on his hind legs and shout. I have been exonerated twice.

This of course isn't true. The Mueller report showed several reasons to
impeach Trump, not exonerate him, in spite of what Trump's attorney
general claimed. And even if the GOP senators refuse  to remove him,
it doesn't change the fact that Trump held up aid to  Ukraine to get
an investigation of Joe Biden for his own benefit. An  investigation
based on false accusations.

There are 20 GOP senators up for reelection in 2020, so they will
have to explain their reasons for voting to keep the most corrupt
president in American history in office?   Will their excuse that
politics made  them do it, be enough for their reelection?.
Only time will tell.

As I said yesterday, the speaker is being attacked for
not sending the impeachment articles to the Senate
immediately. Trump is crying that he wants his trial
over and done with. Moscow Mitch of the senate is
claiming the Democrats are afraid to do it, because
they know they will lose. It's all fake excuses, because
there is no rush. Besides Moscow Mitch and Trump don't
want a fair trial with documentation and witnesses.
They just want to declare Trump innocent, and
nothing else.

Some want to claim Trump wouldn't try to get favors as
president. Trump never does anything, unless he can be
paid for it. Either with money or something of value. It's
just the kind of person he is. Just like a mob boss. He
keeps tabs on those he does things for.  A good man
or woman doesn't expect pay for helping others. In
business yes, but not otherwise.

Helping others when they need it, shows what kind
of person you are. Selfish people like Trump have no
empathy for others. Just like a person that goes into
disaster area selling water for $5 a bottle. It's all
about them and nothing else. Over the last 3 years
California has had several disasters, but since they
didn't vote for Trump, he does little to help. In fact
he blames them for their problems.

Trump, the most vindictive man who has ever held the
office of president. Keeps track of who supports him and
who doesn't. There are still people waiting for government
help from storm damage. It's likely they live in areas who
didn't give Trump a win. So it's likely they will have to wait
a long time. 

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 21, 2019, 12:59:45 pm

Moscow Mitch, and Trump are calling the speaker and the
Democrats names for holding up Trumps impeachment trial.
I think it's interesting that Moscow Mitch and Trump want to
forget about all the bills sitting on Moscow Mitch's desk
waiting to be acted upon. over 250 as last count. Moscow
Mitch only wants to  load the federal courts with bad
judges who will support the GOP. and their policies. So
Moscow Mitch and Trump's claims that the Democrats
do nothing but attack Trump is a sham, and nothing but lies.

Though a president needs to talk with world leaders. Talk is
always better than not, but in Trumps case it appears Trump
 takes advice from Russia's leader Putin, a man who is much
smarter than Trump. A man who wishes the down fall of the
United States. He called Trump a clown prior to his  nomination,
then change as he decided he should attempt  to help Trump
win, because  he could see Trump was a man 
he could easily manipulate.

Anyone who is ready to believe conspiracy theories over facts
as Trump does is a sucker ready to be picked, and Putin along
with  other world dictators know this, and are ready to use
Trumps stupidity  for their own benefit.

Actually the GOP is worse than Trump, because they know
better. We can excuse Trump a little, but not them. These people
are playing with fire win they accept Russian propaganda to
support their political ends. Something the GOP would not have
dreamed of doing a few decades ago, and should be severely
punished for turning against the constitution and oath of office,
just to hold onto  political power.

Trump over the past few years has had a lot of support  from
the evangelical movement. Largely from older white members,
and not so much from the black community, or young people.
Interestingly enough a prominent  magazine. "Christianity Today"
published a scathing headline about president Trump. Saying
he should be removed from office, because he is so immoral,
and those evangelicals who support Trump, should remember
who they are and  who their lord is, and it's not Trump. Of
course president  Trump didn't like the editorial,  calling it
a left wing magazine,  and would stop reading it. As  if he
ever did, because he  never reads anything but headlines.

The following is my own opinion, and not necessarily that of Furtopia.

I think most of Trumps evangelical support comes from those
who want to stop immigration. This is strange in that Jesus told
his followers to treat strangers as they would them selves. They
seem to support the removal of aid for the poor, and health care
for them and their children. Jesus promised dire punishment for
such acts. So it's time they point to their religious leaders, and
ask why they should turn against the teaching of Christ?

It's gives one to think they have turned against the teaching of
Jesus to follow a corrupt leadership. Personally I would fear
using Christianity for political gain. It says in the bible to
mislead the followers of GOD will bring terrible consequences.
 I imagine the Devil as described in the Christian bible would agree.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 22, 2019, 01:19:03 pm

Seems the national media just can't admit the Democrats can win
over the GOP. Anything they do hurts them and helps the GOP to
hear them talk. I think the media is afraid if they don't give the
GOP the edge, they can't get interviews of GOP leaders. Well
wouldn't that be too bad. I guarantee GOP politicians would
never turn down a spot on a news program where they can
brag on themselves and Trump.

Trump worked hard to make his impeachment a partisan
decision with threats and bribes. Typical of his form of
politics. I really don't know why the media is making any
deal of partisanship, because congress is a group of people
who are supposed to vote as their voters wish, not their
party.

Why is Trump and the GOP in such a hurry? Does this mean they
plan to just have a GOP vote to dismiss the impeachment? Or Try
to? We know Trump wants to claim he has been exonerated, so
perhaps this is why he is in a hurry, so he can go have rally's
where he claims complete innocence.  I am sure his cult followers
will screen and cheer for Trump their King. Something Trump
lives for.

Nationalists need to look at history. Corrupt people use nationalism as
a  way to  build support for themselves, and it always ends up bad for
those who  support them. Corrupt people, both in Japan, and Germany
used nationalistic  themes to gained power, and look where it led.

After WWII communism was used as a form of nationalism to
convince the people it would raise them out of poverty. But
the corrupt leaders who pushed it, only had power and money
for themselves in mind. So the people gained little or nothing.

Nationalism is a dead end, no matter how it's sold, or who sells it.
Nationalist tried to keep us out of WWII, and if we had, it's likely
we would be looking at a imperialist Japan, and a Germany pushing
to control the rest of the world, and both out to divide the Americas
between them.

Nationalism is rising again with Trump and sadly even the GOP at the
lead. People  never seem to learn. Using a plan that many people see
as good for the country as a  way to gain, and hold power. If we sit
back and allow this, our country and economy will go down with the
richest Americans riding on our backs. Because Nationalism is nothing
but selfish greed at it's heart.

People of other countries are our neighbors. We do have to stand up
for ourselves, but not unfairly. In most cases others will treat us fair if
we treat them fair. Trump is trying to claim he is looking out for us, but
tariffs hurts us more than other countries. This is why it was declared
illegal a hundred years ago except during war. I don't know if Trump
understands this or not, but his tariffs have hurt a lot of people here.

Yes China does take advantage when it can, but so far his so called
big deals haven't changed anything, and in most cases hurt our trade
with other countries. Of course Trump claims he is having great
success by pointing to the stock market. A market that most
Americans can't afford to play in. Unfortunately Trump is still
riding the Obama economy, and of course claims it to be
his own. I fear we are in for a recession, if not in 2020, 2021.

One odd thing is I can remember when politicians claimed high
employment wasn't good for the economy, but now they want
to claim  it's good. Perhaps it's because the GOP is in power,
and not the Democrats.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 24, 2019, 12:47:03 pm


Sadly, immigration officials under Trump's cruel system is causing deaths,
and rapes of children and adults when they are returned to  Mexico. There
to wait for a decision about being accepted for asylum. Using Mexico as
a holding area for these people puts them in danger, and should be
illegal for any president to do.

Sadly, Trump supporters don't want to believe these reports
are true. Perhaps they should remember their history. The German
people didn't believe Hitler was killing innocent people, until after
the war. It  may be the same with Trump's actions as well.

It seems some people think asking a foreign leader to lie about
someone to help a politician is normal. I think people who use this
excuse are just justifying their support for Trump. I wish the media
would follow up by having people explain their support, and not just
accept a answer at face value. People often use excuses they have
heard, and not due to their own research.

The GOP is still using Russian propaganda to justify conspiracy
theories used by Trump. Trump is fed these theories by Russia's
President Putin. A man Trump wants help from. It appears Trump is
being a yes man to help Russia instead of the United states. Think
not? There is evidence of Trump using arguments where he was told
by Putin our people are wrong, and Trump believes Putin over
our experts.

Moscow Mitch and Trump continue fighting to keep the facts
out of the impeachment trial of Trump. They don't want any
evidence or witnesses brought up. They just want to have
a  quick call to judgment, and claim Trump is innocent. Because
truth and facts make the GOP and Trump look bad.

Well with 64% of republicans wanting witnesses and documentation.
The GOP just might be getting themselves in a lot of trouble with their
efforts to cover up the evidence.   The GOP and Trump want to claim
it's all been settled, and the Democrats will just want to drag the
trial out to hurt Trump's chances for reelection. This is just more excuses
by the GOP and Trump who want to hide the evidence with a quick trial.

President Trump doesn't like wind mills, claiming they are
unsightly and noisy. Also claiming they reduce property
values, and kill birds. Well surprise surprise, Trump is wrong
about bird kills. Cell phone towers are just as dangerous to birds.
Most wind farms aren't built near housing, with no evidence of
effecting property values, and most people care more about the
environment than worrying about having to look at a wind mill
nearby.  Besides  major airports  create more noise pollution
than a wind farm ever could, and  Trump doesn't complain
about those.

Trump tries to claim win mills are all built in China or Europe.
This is wrong too. Wind energy is big business here in the U S.
Making thousands of good jobs available for Americans. Trumps
lies are in support of the oil, and gas industry, people who
give huge donations to Trump and the GOP.

The GOP, and the Trump campaign are out to intimidate, and do
all they can to keep people from voting. Especially those who might
vote for Democrats. Already the GOP is working to purge voting
rolls in Wisconsin and any where else they can. They do this by
nit picking any error the person did during registration. All this using
the excuse that they are wanting to stop voter fraud. A claim that has
no evidence of need. Over the past decade fewer than 50 votes out of
a billion votes show any evidence of fraud. This is nothing more than
cheating by the republican party. They had been stopped for attempting
to intimidate voters by paying to put gun toting watch groups at polling
stations. Unfortunately this 37 year restriction expired in 2017, so the
GOP is ready to do it again.  Perhaps the Democrats should  have
their own people to escort worried voters past the GOP watchers.

Truth should always be the goal by people in public office. Now I am
not claiming the Democrats never lie, but the GOP apparently think
they are the protectors of the American society, and use this to
justify their attempts to win at any cost. This is a old idea of the
GOP. Just listen to Moscow Mitch. He calls any group that is
opposed to the GOP, radicals and hate groups. It matters not
even when these groups belong to the majority of the people, because
only the GOP should  rule, even though they have little more than 30%
of the population. This is why Democrats held control over congress
for many years, but in the early 1980's a new generation convinced
enough voters to put them in power, and since then the rich have
grown while the middle class stayed much the same, unlike prior
to this time the middle class was growing. 

We can only hope The GOP lose the Senate and the
White House. If they remain in power things will only
get worse for minorities, women, LGBTQ, and the
poor. Perhaps even the loss of Social Security and
medicare for the elderly. Because the GOP only
have money for the rich, and not for the poor.

Like Ebeneezer Scrooge the GOP is building chains of
greed for themselves, and I doubt if they ever change.


You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

All the best for a happy holiday season.  :orbunny:
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 25, 2019, 11:18:03 am
Today is about love, and not politics, so I prey for Trump, and
his misguided friends. I hope their heart grows in  away it helps
them work for us all instead of just themselves. 

That would be so Cool!

Old Rabbit  8)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 26, 2019, 01:12:25 pm

So far the Democrats running for president are mainly promising health
care coverage reform, and lower drug costs. Of course Trump and the GOP
are trying to hand it all over to private insurance who they claim can do
the best job. People should understand, even though they may have
good  coverage with their job, there is no guarantee. The boss or the
insurance  provider can  change that coverage at a moments notice,
and if they change jobs, in most  cases, loose the coverage altogether.
Especially if they have a  serious health  issue. They would be much
better off  with a medicare  style plan, and of course big insurance
doesn't want that.  They stand to lose  billions with  a government
plan. So they are handing  millions to the  GOP to help them stop it.

North Korea promised a Christmas present for the U S. So far it appears
the north Korean leader has lost his calendar, or changed his mind. We
know Trump wouldn't like any kind of test that would threaten the US.
So only time will tell. So far Trump claims some success with keeping
North Korea out of the nuclear club, but I really doubt he has accomplished
anything of substance.
 
President Trump continues to attack the Democrats for impeaching him.
Claiming they didn't allow any witnesses or evidence in his defense. This
is just nonsense as the Democrats gave him several opportunities to
provide witnesses of substance, and documentation to prove his
innocence.

Trump has done nothing but work to keep witnesses and
documentation out of the hands of the Democrats. Evidence
Trump apparently fears would convict him. This is nothing
new,  Trump has been known to do much the same thing anytime
he felt he could lose legal cases. Just like a mob boss, he uses
his money a threats to get his way. Not personally though, he
apparently hires others to do that. Now he has the GOP hired
to do his dirty work. And if they don't he threatens them with
job loss, and political ruin.

I have heard reports that his impeachment is driving him
crazy. Because it puts a stain on his name, and his name
means everything to him. Money and reputation. He makes
millions each year, from others using his name.

Trump's habit of counter attacking anyone who is against
him, may peak over the coming year. So it will be interesting
to see just how far he is willing to go with his rhetoric, and
actions trying to keep the office of president.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 27, 2019, 12:55:35 pm

The latest on Trumps famous wall with Mexico is at 4 miles, and waiting\
on court battles with Texas ranchers who don't want to have their land cut
up. In some cases Trumps fence would set back a mile from the boarder.
This would cut some small boarder towns in half. Leaving citizens with
little land left to farm or live on. People are being told they must sell
land that has been owned for generations to the government for
Trumps wall.  It turns out Trumps wall isn't popular along the
boarder. Just in states farther north, where people know little
of what is really going on.

Trump claims it will stop drug traffic, but most drugs cross the
boarder in cars and trucks. Not on foot as Trump's supporters
want to believe. Also most people wanting to come into the
country arrive at points of entry. Smugglers  would easily
cut holes in Trumps fence if they wished to bring people
in otherwise.

President Trump claims the Democrats are a do nothing party. Even though
they passed over 400 bills after just over 11 months. Hundreds more than
the GOP did during the first 2 years of Trump's time in the white house. So
Trumps claim is nothing but hot air he is blowing at his supporters.

If anyone is a do nothing, it's Trump and the GOP. They are sitting  on over
250 bills in the senate so senators won't have to vote on them, or Trump
won't be forced to veto bills his supporters might like, and the far right
might not. Also this is a defense plan that Moscow Mitch is using to
protect senators in states where they could be at risk in 2020.

This link will take you to an article giving a good description of how the GOP is
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump (https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump)

Trump is bragging about the stock market again. Claiming it's due to
all his great work as president. What he doesn't say is all he has done
is lower taxes for the richest Americans, and cut interest rates to help
the stock market. This does benefit a fair number of people across the
country, but mostly the wealthy over the lower middle class and the
poor. Which is around 45% of the population. Since most of the 45%
are Democrats, Trump and the GOP care little for
anything they might want.

Some might feel Trump deserves another term because of how the
economy is doing. Well they best hope we don't have a recession,
even a small one. Because Trump has already done all that can be
done to help strengthen an already strong economy. So if we have
a down turn  he has nothing left but his hot air to save us from a
depression.  Then Trump the bankrupt king will have no idea how
to bring  us back from the brink of a disaster. One that could
collapse economies around the world.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 28, 2019, 12:47:26 pm

Trump and the GOP are bragging about how great the economy
is. The trouble is it's based on deficit spending, and artificially
low interest rates. Basically a balloon growing, because the
economy hasn't got a strong base to stand on. When the balloon
bursts many people will loose it all, and Trump and the GOP
could end up getting the credit.

Of course if it happens after Trump leaves the white house he will
put the blame on those who followed him. Especially if they are
Democrats.

With the GOP controlled senate ready to declare Trump their King
innocent. Perhaps the speaker of the house should just hang on
to the articles  until the public forces the GOP to hold a fair trial.

It's already at 70% for a fair trial, and likely will grow even
more as Moscow Mitch continues saying he is out to keep
Trump in the White House. Even if he has to break his oath,
and the constitution to do it.

It all goes back to the claim that only the GOP knows how
to run the country, and they will do anything to stay in power.
That  includes denying peoples right to vote, along with the
rights  of minorities, LGBTQ, Women, and the disadvantaged. 
If you think not, just look at how few women and minorities
there are in the GOP.

This idea that women don't belong in government is common
among men in the GOP. This if anything will kill the party,
because women in the younger generation are fed up with how
men treat them, and they no longer have to  depend on men to
survive.

The GOP had planned to privatize social programs in 2019, but the
loss of the house of representatives killed those plans. There excuse
was the government can't afford to continue social security, medicare
and medicaid. They were going to use the loss of revenue by the
big tax cut as an excuse to cut them. Even though they claimed
their tax cut would expand the economy enough to pay for it. I
think they knew as most economists did, it wouldn't. So now
the debt  is climbing at a trillion dollars a year. Trump ran
claiming he would reduce the national debt, but his big
tax cut for the rich showed it was all a lie.

So now if the Democrats do take power in 2020, they will have
to increase taxes. Just as they have to do each time  they take
over after the GOP's excesses. Then of course  the GOP will
point and claim only Democrats raise taxes, and ignore the
reasons the Democrats had to raise them.



This link will take you to an article giving a good description of how the GOP is
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 29, 2019, 12:34:18 pm

I am sure anyone who has listened to Trump always here
the refrain. The Democrats hate me. I don't think we have
ever has such a insecure man as Trump for president. To
hear him talk, he  is always the victim. Then at his rally's
he claims his supporters are too.

If anyone is a victim, it's our democracy, and it's laws. Trump
has spent the last 3 years complaining, because the Democrats
won't pledge their loyalty to Trump, their  lord and master, If
you don't think Trump expects this kind of treatment, just
remember how those in his  cabinet virtually kiss his feet, and
the Vice president does as well at cabinet meetings.

We can only guess why Trump feels he as president should
be treated like a King. He is a public servant, a man who
serves the  people, not a political party. Something  he
apparently doesn't understand. A president is supposed to be
the moral center, a example of what is good, by standing for
the law, and constitution. Instead Trump seems to  think he
should act like a representative in congress who supports his
voters. A president is there for the good of all, not just those
who voted for him or her, and definitely not for his or her own
benefit.

I really don't think Trump understands as president he must
give up his business concerns, and those of his family. This is
why Trump should have never been elected. He has no
 understanding of what it means to be a public servant, and
the restrictions it places on those holding the office. Just
like a soldier, a president has to dedicate their life to the job.
People like Trump who only serve themselves can not be a good
president, and his supporters only hurt the country by doing so.

The worst part about Trump as president is  how the GOP allows
Trump to defy the laws and even the constitution. They give up
their oath of office, and  duty to the country by supporting Trump
and his lack of patriotism. I know the GOP wants to keep power,  but
to allow a man like Trump to harm the country is truly unpatriotic.

The GOP, for the good of the country, should remove Trump, and accept
the ire of Trumps voters for the good of us all. No party should allow
one man to ruin the country just to keep power.

This link will take you to an article giving a good description of how the GOP is
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 30, 2019, 01:59:41 pm

Joe Biden, the VP of President Obama needs to think a little
more before he  answers questions from the press. I have
noticed over the past year he has hurt him self by having
to back track due to something he said. I am not a big fan
of Biden, but we need someone who doesn't step on himself
to run  against Trump. Because who ever is nominated,
Trump will do his best to manipulate them.

Apparently Trump decided to counter attack an Iranian
group in Iraq that attacked our troops and killed
an American contractor. Iraq is complaining that they
weren't consulted. I am not sure why Trump made this
decision without talking to Iraq first. Since it wasn't an
immediate response.

Attacks on the Jewish community has been increasing
over the last few years. It seems people are using
the social media to spread their hate. It is sad that
people feel they must use physical violence against
those they don't like. If they feel a group of people
or some individual is bad, speak out against them
or better yet talk  to them. Killing never solves
anything. It just makes things worse.

I hope president Trump speaks out against violence
and promotes legislation declaring such attacks as
acts of terrorism. It's not a solution, but at least
those responsible could be pulled off the streets and
held till they are tried for their crime.

I know many people fear change, and want to blame
those who are different for their problems. We must
educate our young people so they can't be drawn into
conspiracy theories that seem to show different people
and their religion, as being dangerous to our way
of life.


This link will take you to an article giving a good description of how the GOP is
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 31, 2019, 12:48:44 pm

We can only wonder how long the speaker will wait to see what Moscow
Mitch decides. Will he allow witnesses, and other evidence during the
senate-impeachment trial, or not? Will the public stand for a quick
dismissal? Doing so could put several GOP senators as risk. Something
the senate leader would not want. The last thing he wants is loosing
the senate to  the democrats, much less the white house. So Moscow
Mitch is likely  wanting this trial over with as each day brings more
proof of Trump's guilt. Guilt that would make it more difficult to
exonerate Trump.  Something that I am sure Trump and Mitch both
dearly want.

An attack on our embassy in Iraq by Iranian supported demonstrators
may be Trumps first real test as president. How he responds could make
or break his re election. So it will be interesting to see what he does. A
harsh response could start a war, and a weak one could make him look
bad. So time will tell if he can find a good balance. Of course it may
depend on how Iran responds in the end. This is one of those times
that give many presidents gray hairs. So Trump may have to add more
orange to his hair, unless it's just fake hair.

It is possible that Putin of Russia might convince Trump to let Russia
take control of the entire region. Who can say, as we don't really know
how much control Putin has over Trump, and Trump might think his
nationalistic supporters would like it if he pulled our troops out
completely. I really don't know enough to say what should happen.
That is why presidents should listen to those who really know.

It could be getting serious as Trump only spent an hour playing
golf, hardly enough time to play at all.

This link will take you to an article giving a good description of how the GOP is
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 01, 2020, 12:50:03 pm

Welcome to 2020. It's time to  talk about saving our  environment,
and what Trump and the GOP are doing about it. Or I should say
NOT doing about it.

 The GOP leadership in our government claim climate change isn't
due to humanity, but science has shown increases in temperatures
and ocean levels over the last 150 years. Most of it since the start
of the industrial revolution. We can either close our eyes or accept
the truth. A truth that demands we have to  change or face disaster
for our planet. Which is due to pollution, and not due to natural
events as the GOP wants to claim. 

President Trump started out by pulling us out of the world
agreement to reduce carbon usage. Then started pushing
the use of dirty coal for energy. So it's obvious that Trump
has no plan to cut pollution or carbon consumption in our
country, or the world for that matter.

Since Trump has been in office, he has opened our coastal
areas for oil exploration. Government lands for Mining, and
national forests for logging. All of which ads to pollution and
destruction of the environment. Not counting the risks to
pristine lands and seashores. All to benefit big business.

Though the coal industry  does provide jobs, but those mining
coal can learn other jobs that pay well. Jobs that don't hurt
the  environment. They should want a future for their children
that is fit to live in. Not one where they have to fight terrible
weather, driven by a ruined environment.

Yes it will cost more now, but if we don't pay now to save
our planet, it will cost a great deal more in the not to distant
 future.  Not only in money, but in lives.

The republican party  who work mostly for big business, doesn't
want to increase costs  of living to save the planet, and definitely
not cost big business  their profits. Many of these people only
care about their seat   in congress, and not the future for our
planet or our children.   By the time our coastal cities flood,
and food crops fail, it will  be too late to make a difference or
even stop global warming.   It may even be too late now, but
what will you tell your  descendants if we do nothing?

Yes I know a lot of people like Trump and the GOP because they
are against immigrants, abortion, and gay's, but if the planet
becomes to hot to support life,   It won't matter who runs the
country, or the world, and only the rich will have any chance
of  life, while the rest of us suffer and die.

Yes this apocalypse is in our future, though it might be 100
years, but more likely less than 50. We can't wait to see. If
we do,it will be too late. Just like a fire, climate change starts
slow, but once well started it will be very hard to stop.

The danger from a climate gone wild is the wars it will start.
Because people will fight to survive. Millions will be on the
move to find a environment where they can live. National brders
won't stop them, or their military, and they will use any and
all weapons to keep from losing. I am sure in desperation a
nuclear war will start. A war that will send survivors back to
a hand to mouth existence if they are lucky. If not it's a reset
for the planet, and the life on it.

Only time will tell, and we should vote to save the planet first
and our petty differences later.

I wish all a happy and better new year. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 02, 2020, 01:07:15 pm

Yesterday I talked about the GOP and Trump's  response
to the  environment. It's not just the air  we breathe. The 
ocean's are warming too. At a  point the warmth will cause
the release of large  amounts of green house gasses trapped
on the ocean floor. Also these temperature changes can affect
ocean currents. The gulf stream is a major flow of warm water
that helps keep Europe  warm. The ice melt in Greenland could
affect this flow turning Europe much colder.

Already warmer ocean temperatures
are causing huge areas of ice to break
away from the antarctic ice pack. This
loss is allowing glaciers to dump huge
amounts of ice in to the antarctic ocean.

All this just adds to sea levels. Levels
that will flood islands and coastal areas
that provide homes for millions in the
future.

Trump likes to brag about how much money he is raising for his
campaign to be re elected. Well he is just one man. If you add
up all the money raised by the Democrats for president, Trump's
doesn't really match up. We should remember Trump lies all the
time, so anything he says is suspect.

The war hawks were out on news shows over the weekend. Trump
is promising a response to the attack on our embassy in Iraq. So
we can only wonder what Trump will do. He is playing a dangerous
game with Iran, and even with Iraq as there isn't a stable government
to work with there. And a lot of the Iraq people would like to see
us leave.

President Trump might be able to sell real estate, but he is a lousy
diplomat. His dismantlement of the State Department has put our
country at risk. Trump thinks he can talk anyone into anything.
So he thinks diplomats are a waste of time. Well his idea of kissing
up to the North Korean leader has only made the murdering crooked
leader of North Korea stronger, not weaker, Or even to stop building
long range missiles and nuclear bomb to put on them.

Also his bullying tactics with Iran hasn't done anything to cool tensions
in the region. If anything it's getting worse, and may soon explode into
war. I am sure we  do a number on their air defense, and Navy rather
quickly, but that is just a start. They are not the Iraq we stepped on
several years ago. Iran has a huge ground army,  and war tested
dedicated fighters to go with it. It's likely Russia  will be happy to send
them weapons that could do a lot of damage. Putin has a large Moslem
population to keep happy, so he will help Iran if they need it.

Another thing is Iran fighters are not going to stay in Iran, they will
attack us anywhere in the world if a real war is  started. Iranian fighters
only need the word and they will be on the move. The attack on our
embassy is just the  beginning. Because they could attack the embassy
in Iraq with many more followers. Possibly to the point where Trump
might authorize deadly force to stop it, and that could push the region
into a full blown war.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 03, 2020, 01:09:06 pm

Well president Trump did it, and harshly. There is no doubt the general
he had killed was a terrible  person. But one mans murderer is another
mans hero, and this General was a hero to the nation of Iran. Trump
said this man should have been killed years ago. If so why did he wait
so long. Trump could have done this in 2017 if it was so important.

President Trump is claiming this assassination was to prevent attacks on
diplomats and other officials by this Iranian General. Though this man was
an excellent tactician, it's doubtful his death would stop plans for attacks
he already had in work. Any great military man would have his death
prepared for. So country's around the world, including the U S are
increasing security to  prepare for a response from Iran.

So it appears Trump thinks he has shown himself to stand strong
against terrorism. To punish Iran for the attack on the U S embassy.
Well the opposite is true. Trump is a reactionist, with little or no plans
or policy except to put pressure on Iran, instead of diplomacy. We can
hope Trump isn't spoiling for a war, hoping Iran will give him the
excuse to respond with total warfare.

The U S under Obama and 6 other countries  worked out a plan to
keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Trump with his hate
for Obama pulled the U S out of the deal. So now they are restarting
their nuclear program. Also since Trump broke the deal, Iran increased
it's acts of terrorism. People in the know told Trump it was a big mistake
to pull us out, but Trump with is plan to undo all of Obama's work did it
anyway.

Of course the GOP and all of Trumps supporters are hailing Trump as
a hero for getting rid of this terrible man. Trump even implied he
couldn't brief the leaders of congress, because they couldn't keep
it secret. I am sure Trump was told he needed to inform congressional
leaders, but as usual Trump thumbs his nose at the rules. It's likely
Trump would start a war with Iran without congressional authority
if he thought it would benefit him personally. Unfortunately as long
as the GOP stand with Trump there is little the Democrats can do.

Trump may think a war with Iran would keep him in office. It is sad
that it might just do that. A lot of people feel it's best to not change
leadership during a war. I wonder though when body bags start piling
up. Will his followers continue to support him?

All is speculation now, but I am sure we will soon hear from Iran, and
not just the cry's to attack the U S A, but with violence to the innocent.
A war with Iran will cost thousands of lives, and trillions of dollars. Trump
seems to think it would be a quick win. This just shows Trumps ignorance.
Even once the military was defeated it wouldn't stop. 

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 04, 2020, 12:58:43 pm

President Trump claims he doesn't want a war. Then why is he trying to goad Iran
into starting a war with the U S? So far his only excuse for assassinating Iran's top
General is because he thought the General was about to kill a lot of Americans. So
far there is little evidence of any special threat other than to our embassy in Iraq
by a mob.

This General's death was well deserved, but what plan or strategy  does this
begin or continue. I think Trump used this as a distraction for the most part. Yet
I really think Trump wants a war, not started by him, but by Iran. Because he ran
for president claiming he was going to get the U S out of the middle east. So if he
started a war, it would show he lied. It's likely Trump wants this because he fears
he will loose  the election in 2020, and a war might keep him in the white house.
He accused  Obama in 2011 that he would start a war with Iran to win the 2012
election. So we know this would  be in his mind. So all our people who have
family in the  military should understand Trump will put your loved ones at
risk for his own benefit. He has added 20,000 troops to the middle east already.

Now Trump is flying to the middle east. Is he hoping there will be a threat
on his person? A threat he could use to give him an excuse to respond
with another attack.

We best hope Iran doesn't decide to really try to hurt the U S A. They have
thousands of missiles and could have a 300,000 man army attacking the oil
industry of the middle east. Shut down oil shipments through the Red sea,
an turn U S embassy's through out the middle east in to rubble. Yes we could
destroy their air defense, and Navy, but by then there wouldn't be any oil
leaving the middle east, which would put the worlds economy in chaos.

It's this threat that I really doubt Trump understands. Trump thinks everyone
in the world worries about money the way he does. So they just couldn't
destroy the income oil brings them.

In past years Trump claimed Obama couldn't make a deal with anyone. Yet
Trump has had little success with China, Iran or North Korea. He claims
his new deal with Mexico and Canada is better, but shows little change or
improvement over the one we had. So far Trump's deals consist of Bullying,
and Charms. Neither of which haven't had any success. Instead he creates
a problem, then if he fixes it, he brags about it.

Trump best hope there isn't a war, because it will wreck the world economy
and that will hurt ours as well.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 05, 2020, 01:10:35 pm

Apparently I was wrong when I said Trump was going to the middle east.
At the time I thought it was odd our cowardly president would go anywhere
near where their might be danger. At least not by saying so first. I think
it was actually the secretary of state  that went instead. One of Trumps
lackey's.

It seems Trump hasn't come up with a honest excuse for the assassination
of Iran's top General. Except to claim he was planning attacks. Something
this really bad guy made a career out of doing. Now Trump is making
threats against Iran's cultural sites. I wonder if Trump realizes this would
be a criminal act. A war crime that could get him charged by a
international body. A judgment even the supreme court couldn't
overturn.

Trump best study international law before he walks into something
he can't back out of. Even wars have rules, and Trump best learn
them, because he could be held libel   for war crimes, and the
GOP couldn't help save him. He might escape prosecution
here, but he couldn't leave the country.

So far Trumps action hasn't received much if any support from
the international community. Now Iraq's governing body is pushing
to expel the U S military from the country. So what will Trump
say about that? Is Trump going to use military force to stay in
Iraq? Only time will tell.

Apparently the secretary of state has informed the Russian
Ambassador of of Trumps reasons for the assassination, but
not congress. This is an insult against the constitution by
Trump. To put an enemy of the country above congress
shows a total lack of respect for constitutional rule. The
secretary of state was on news shows making excuses
for Trump. Instead  he should be talking to congress.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 06, 2020, 01:07:43 pm

It's likely Trump is doing this to distract the news away from his impeachment.
Ever since he ran for office he has done this. Each time the news centered around
something he didn't like, he would do something to change  the news. This time
his use of Iran, may have been a step too far, but only time will tell. As the GOP,
and his followers see him  almost like a sword and shield
wielding King, there to protect them.

As I figured they would, the people of Iran have made a martyr of their top
general. I am sure Trump was told this would likely happen. When Trump was
running for office he said he didn't want war, and would bring our forces home.
Yet he hires some of the worst war hawks in government for advisers. It's no
wonder we are moving toward another middle east war. This with a president
who is a neophyte, worst yet he thinks he is smart enough to know how
to run a war. Something the last 3 years have shown he doesn't know
how to do anything but cheat tax payers, by running our country as
he thinks a mob boss would.

Trump is threatening Iraq with sanctions if they get serious about wanting
our troops to leave the country. In the past Russia was an ally of Iraq. So
sanctions could send them right back to Russia for help.  That would put
Russia back in control of a large part of the middle east. Syria, Iran, and
Iraq, with influence growing in Turkey. This would put Israel at risk, and
they have nuclear weapons. Weapons  they would likely use if they were
about to be driven from their country.

Also Saudi Arabia and others around the Red sea would find themselves
at risk as well, and will likely be attacked if we use those areas to base
our troops while fighting Iran.

Yes, we have the military power to defeat Iran, but with a man like Trump
at the helm, I fear we will loose thousands of troops. The people of Iran,
unlike Iraq won't welcome our troops, and will face constant attack while
trying to occupy Iran. Also Iran fighters will attack any American anywhere
in the world they find them.

So Trump's plan to use a war to stay in office will put our national security
at high risk. Something Trump supporters may grow to hate if thousands
of our troops come home in bags. Not counting other Americans killed
 due to  Iranian terrorists.

If Trump thinks threats will work against Iran, it's a shame it's not him
who stands to loose, and not our people. Now Iran is putting their nuclear
program into high gear. So Trump will likely use this as an excuse to start
a war. A serious problem he created by pulling out of the deal Obama made
in the first place. Just because Trump hated the fact we had a black man in
the white house.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 08, 2020, 12:54:32 pm

President Trump likes to feel important. So when he feels like he has
something special to say, he loves to make the world wait, 30 minutes
this time for his speech about Iran. Something I did notice was that
he was out of breath, like he had been running. He did come down
stairs as he entered the room. So perhaps he had just ran up stairs
so he could  come down. If he was that much out of breath climbing
a set of stairs he may be having medical issues we don't know about.
I also noticed he was having a bit of trouble with the pronouncement
of a word  or two.

He left immediately like he wasn't feeling good. Of course it could be
because his people told him not to answer questions. As when he does
he often sticks his foot in his mouth with his bellicose bragging.

Trump warned Iran he wouldn't let them have a nuclear weapon, but
said nothing about how he might prevent it. Basically his speech said
little we didn't already know. I got the impression he really didn't want
to be in the room, much less making a speech. Almost like he
was upset and was trying hard not to blow up in front of reporters.

Trump just couldn't help himself. He had to blame Obama, by saying
Obama's deal with Iran paid for their missiles. This is a ridiculous
claim. The 150 billion they got with the deal was money that belonged
to them, not us, as Trump has always wanted to claim.

Trumps hatred for Obama has done harm to our national  security, and
his breaking of the nuclear deal brought on  attacks by Iran that have
killed so many since. This is a big reason Trump should be removed,
and or not re elected. A president who has hate in his heart is a danger to
himself and our country.

Moscow Mitch and other republicans are calling those who are against
war with Iran, un-american. This is typical of war mongers as many in
the GOP are. It's the right of all Americans to  speak out, when they
see something they believe is wrong, and war to feed the ideology of a
few is definitely wrong.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 09, 2020, 01:00:51 pm

The Ukrainian plane that crashed soon after taking off from an Iranian  airport
was likely caused by a missile strike. A missile likely launched due to fear of
a U S counter attack. This is what happens when war is started. These people
could still be alive if Trump had used good sense instead of making an attack
he apparently has no good excuse for, other than saying the man they killed
was a terrible person. To be sure Trump didn't fire the missile, but actions
like his often have bad results.

Moscow Mitch continues to protect Trump by not wanting a honest trial in
the senate for his  removal. As usual the senate leader claims we the GOP
know what's best for the country, so live with it. 

The house is planning a vote to prevent Trump  from making preemptive
attacks on Iran. Unless approved by congress, as provided in the war
powers act. Of course Trump will likely veto it even if the senate is
allowed to vote on it. Hopefully there will be a veto proof vote to
stop our corrupt president from starting a war he feels should
get him re elected. Now some war mongering members of the
GOP are crying it will help Iran by keeping Trump from attacking
them when he wants to.

Trump lied today when he claimed the speaker supported the Iranian
General Trump killed. She  said she didn't like anyone to die. Not pointing
to any one person as Trump does.

The GOP and Trump may like war if it helps them politically, but
I haven't seen very many soldiers who like war. Those who do
are a danger to the country, and peace loving people. War is always
a act of last resort. Diplomacy is always preferred, something Trump
doesn't understand. With him it's either buy them, bully them or
con them. Then if that fails hire people to kill them, just as a mob
boss would. Those who support a man like this should be ashamed.

Trump claims we are safer due to his attacks on Iran, but if we
have to leave Iraq. Who will keep ISIS from coming back? Iran
has terrorists around the world that can attack at the wish of
Iranian leaders. These people don't wear uniforms, and can
mix with American soldiers or tourists. And many are willing to
die to accomplish their ends.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 10, 2020, 12:55:30 pm

After a week Trump claims Iran's top general was out to attack our
embassy's. I find it odd it took the Trump administration a week to
come up with this excuse for their attack on Iran's general. The
secretary of state claimed the senate was told this, even though
none of the senators mentioned it, and some claim they weren't
told this at all.

It's rather obvious that Trump thought this up at his rally and
now his cronies have to claim this as well. If the general had
this plan about to go, his death would likely not stop it, but
if anything promoted it's completion. So far nothing but a few
rockets have been fired at any embassy, which have missed.

A General comes up with the plan, but the troops do the job.
So his death wouldn't have stopped a planned attack, especially
if it was really immanent. It's likely the mob attack on our
Iraq embassy gave Trump an excuse to attack Iran. So the
fact the general happened to be available gave Trump an
opportunity to change the news  headlines from impeachment
to Trump ridding the world of a terrible Iranian General.

I don't think Trump understood how much flack he could
catch over this. Especially from Iran. Also he seems to feel
under appreciated for something he probably thinks should
have gotten him a lot of praise.

Trump thinks his word should be law, so when congress
asked for the justification. Trump went to his rally with lies,
misleading them by saying the Democrats were wanting
him  to get their permission to protect Americans. Claiming
this would keep him from doing his job. What he didn't
explain to his rally is congress was only asking  for the
reason or justification  for the attack, not to give
permission to prevent an intimate attack as he
claimed.

Puerto Rico suffered strong earthquakes not long ago. Trump
did approve some aid, but during the last budget he cut
funding for government aid for the continuing recovery from
the 2017 hurricane damage to the island. It seems Trump is
still mad because of the bad press he got because of his inaction
at the time.  It's obvious Trump considers the people of Puerto
Rico second class citizens because of their Hispanic heritage.
He doesn't seem to care that many young people from Puerto
Rico have given their lives fighting for our country.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 11, 2020, 12:54:19 pm

If Trump wasn't president he would be laughed off any stage he
got on to make a speech. The sad thing is he is president, and
even worse  he has support from people who think he is working
for them. One day they will come to realize just how bad he is. We
can only hope he doesn't wreck the country before he has to leave
office.

I often wondered how Trump would handle a crisis, and it took one
of his own making before he had to deal with one. It doesn't really
surprise me that he is blundering his way through it. Because he,
instead of  doing what he promised, he hired bad people instead
of hiring people who know what to do. Why? Because good people
wouldn't lie for him, or give him total loyalty. Then when career
people wouldn't lie for him either, he had them replaced with more
bad people. So instead of draining the swamp, he just made it deeper,
and instead of making it harder for lobbyists he turns the white
house into a haven for them. All this in the  name of making money
for himself. Because working for the country instead of himself is
being a looser.

If our embassy's were at risk, how come none were warned? This
just shows he will lie about anything to make himself look good. His
hate for Obama is putting our national security at risk, along with our
environment. He is working to undo anything, and everything Obama
did, no matter how good it was.

Not long ago Trump cried about the fact he is yet to receive a Nobel
prize. Something Obama got, and it drives him crazy. Trump is a child
in a man's body. He desires praise for everything he does, and if he
makes a mistake it's always because of someone else. We all want
to be appreciated, but true praise comes from hard work and giving
of ones self for others. Something Trump is unable to do. If by chance
he does do something, he wants to be paid for it.

More strong earthquakes are hitting Puerto Rico, but help from the
Trump administration is slow to come. Yes FIMA is there, but not to
help individuals, but for structural damage. I have a hunch the only
ones that will receive aid is people who give Trump praise, and friends.
He will likely only help others as much as he feels necessary. It wouldn't
surprise me if China, or Russia offered them help with hopes of gaining
a foot hold on the island. Just as they are doing in south America.

The latest on the passenger plane that was shot down over Iran, is it
was shot down apparently by mistake. By their national guard who
took credit for it. It would be interesting to know why they didn't shoot
at the previous 9 passenger plane's that left earlier that morning.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 12, 2020, 12:59:35 pm
It's 296 days to go till the 2020 election, and hopefully Trumps loss.

It's time voters tell Trump he isn't good enough to be president, or
smart enough. I have to admit the media has misrepresented some
of what he says. I think if left alone Trump might have some good
ideas, but he is too much of a coward to stand up for himself. He is
too afraid of loosing the next election, when he should do what is
right, and not what the far right or GOP leadership wants him to do.

I think the GOP leadership knows how corrupt Trump is, but they don't
want to loose the White House, and they feel Trump is their best chance
to keep it. They know Trump will give them far right nominees, many of
which aren't even qualified for the federal courts, and even the supreme
court. People they feel will protect their rich donors, rid the country of
homosexuality rights, abortion, put minorities in their place,  along with
keeping immigrants of color out of the country.

I know a lot of people who are republicans, and most of them are
good people. They have been misled by Trump and the GOP to keep
the rich in control of the country. The rich don't want regular people or
women running the country. Because they know they will help people
they consider lazy, and good for nothing. People they can send to fight
wars for them, because their kids are too good to risk in war. Think not?
Most of those in government who want war, rarely ever send their kids
to fight wars. Except as officers who's job is to manage wars and not
fight them.

It appears the impeachment trial in the senate my start next week.
This so called trial is likely going to be more of a joke as Moscow Mitch
 is out to keep Trump in the white house at any cost. The GOP have
no interest in having witnesses and evidence they know will show
Trumps guilt. A guilt that will make it hard for them to vote to 
keep him. Because 20 GOP members have to explain to their
voters why they voted to keep a corrupt president in office, and
it might cost them their re election.
 
This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below will have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 13, 2020, 12:52:50 pm

It's 295 days to go till the 2020 election, and hopefully Trumps loss. 

It's 3 weeks till the Iowa primary, and it appears the candidates are
feeling the pressure. Seems a battle between Sanders and Warren is
about to be joined. Personally I like Warren, but the bias against women
being president with many voters might make Sanders the better choice.

Moscow Mitch still wants to make the impeachment trial short and sweet
for Trump. So time will tell if this will help the GOP and Trump, or hurt them
this November. As with all politics, impeachment may be the least of their
trouble by election day. The economy could be down, or we could be at
war. With Trump who can say.

Trump has already shown he is running against the perceived socialist plans
by progressive candidates. Plans that would cost the richest Americans a little
of their money, and that of large corporations as well. Some of these people
and corporations pay little or no tax at all with the help of the GOP and Trump.
Something Trump calls being smart. Yes the GOP have worked hard to allow
so called smart people to avoid taxes. Then they blame government deficits
on public programs for the poor, and elderly.

It's all about greed. The GOP plays on peoples greed, and their ideas that
the poor are poor because they want to be. I guess they think old people
want to be poor as well. To be sure good planning and  a bit of luck generally
keeps people from being needy. But a disability or serious health problem
can put all plans askew. Also having to ask for help is demeaning, where
public aid is generally thought of as being owed to one for being a
legal citizen of a country.  Just as taxes are owed as part of being
a legal citizen too.

President Trump continues to pressure Iran. Wanting them to capitulate.
To give into his demands. Trump doesn't seem to understand why anyone
would be willing to give up money and prosperity by refusing his  demands.
Trump will have to learn, not everyone worships money as he does. He has
tried the same thing with North Korea, but that leader worships power
more than money. 

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 15, 2020, 12:39:32 pm
293 days till the 2020 election.

President Trump is signing a treaty with China that is according to Trump a great
advance in fairness. Though Trump will make a big deal out of it, it still depends
on China standing by their promises. Something they have failed to do in the
past. We must remember Trump lies, any time it stands to help himself. Just
as he is doing with the new trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. An
agreement that has a change more in name than value.

Trump continues to brag on the stock market.  Gains that benefit the rich
much more than the average American. Just more proof Trump and the
GOP are out to  benefit the rich, and to cut anything that benefits the
needy or poor, and how it can reduce the deficit without raising taxes.

This is why they don't want government involved with health care. They
know it would require raising taxes. So they want to turn it over to big
insurance corporations that care more about their profits than public
health, much less it's cost to the average American in insurance
premiums or drug prices. The GOP and Trump claim competition
will cut costs, but the GOP works to remove competition from their
big business friends, so they can charge any price they wish.

I will be surprised if the Senate leader Moscow Mitch allows any witnesses or
new evidence to be delivered during this sham of a trial. In his mind the senate
knows whats best for the country, and he as leader works to keep that power for
the GOP. This is why he is working hard to put conservative judges on as many
federal courts as possible. Judges that have the same beliefs as the GOP leadership.

He also knows it's very difficult to remove a federal judge. Basically it takes a
two thirds  vote by the senate. A vote that is hard to  get, especially if one
party disagrees. This was why there was a rule requiring a three tiffs vote to
put a man on the court, but Moscow Mitch changed the rule so he could
do it with a simple majority.

You can be sure all these conservative judges won't give minorities,
women, or the LGBTQ a favorable ruling if they can get by with it.

So the only way this conservative firewall can be broken is with
congress passing laws to limit the power of judges. Otherwise
the rights of the average person will be curtails to favor the
far right.

It seems that many of the GOP members of congress and the senate worship
power and money over the good of the country. We know Trump loves money,
and all that it will buy for him. I don't really think power is a big thing with him.
More likely it's the respect of  the rich he mostly desires. Over the years the
upper class has thought of him as a big mouth con artist, and laughed about 
his losses and bluster. So being president has made him a big man, a man to
chase after for favors. As president, Trump can hand out  valuable government
contracts. Or at least give them leads and inside information to make millions.
They only need to give him money, praise and  valuable advice to get his favor.

I think this is why he enjoys his rally's. The crowds  feeds his ego, a ego that
needs praise and respect. Something he has desired all his life. I don't think
he can even admit to himself that he isn't smart enough  to do a good job
as president. He desperately  wants to be known as a great president, a
president that is much better than Obama. Because he apparently thinks
no black man or woman could be as smart as he is, or anyone of color for
that matter. 

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 16, 2020, 01:02:30 pm

292 days till the election of the century.

Moscow Mitch stood at his podium and said. Trump didn't break the law. This
was totally said for the benefit of their GOP base of voters. Because he knows
a president only has to break his or her oath of office to be impeached, and
Trump has done this several times since taking that oath he doesn't respect.
Also the leader of the senate knows very well that Trump has broken the
law, not once, but several times.

Attorney general Barr claims a president can't break the law, because he
is above the law. A claim he makes that the constitution gives a president
total immunity. A belief held by Barr that those who have no partisan 
reading of the constitution, experts all, say is wrong. Trump nominated
Barr because of this, and the GOP made him attorney general knowing
Barr felt this way. Trump wanted a legal fixer, and he got one with Barr.
A man who uses his office to protect president Trump, and not the people.

Since Trumps impeachment a lot more evidence of his guilt has come
to light. Of  course the GOP want to ignore it all, as they have throughout
this  process. Instead they complain about fairness for Trump their King.
All because they want to keep control of the presidency for themselves,
the GOP.

Since this trial will be on national television, we can expect a lot of partisan
posturing. Especially by the GOP. The Sargent of arms made a statement that
if any senator failed to keep quiet during the trial, they could go to jail. Some
how  I doubt if that is enforced to any degree.

So far the decision wither to have witnesses or not hasn't been made, but there
could be up to five GOP senators breaking with the senate leader, and will vote
to have witnesses and evidence as a part of the trial. Only time will tell if this
happens or not, but national polls show even with republicans 70% feel
witnesses and evidence should be added. So I am sure GOP senators are
under pressure to vote for them. Especially with 20 of them up for re
election.

I will try to keep readers up on the impeachment trial.
Modestly anyway, ignoring the nonsense as best I can.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 17, 2020, 01:00:24 pm
291 days to go. Mr President.

President Trump has complained all along that the so called DEEP State stands in
his way. As it turns out it's his own people who are blocking him in most cases. This
is likely why he has fired so many people. He only wants people who will go along
with what ever he wants, legal or not. Then if they get caught he fires them for
making him look bad. Just more of Trump's mob boss mentality.

Can Trump stay off of Twitter during his impeachment trial? I really doubt it.
If he was really smart he go to his Florida resort, and play golf or whatever
else he likes   to do till the trial was over. Above all stay off line and not watch
television.

Instead I am sure he will stick his nose into the trial, and complain  on Twitter.
He may even  fire one or more of his lawyers if they don't do as he wants.
Trump's big problem  is he isn't smart enough to know how dumb he  is. It's

It's a shame many of his supporters just follow Trump along, while he herds
them  like a flock of   sheep, instead of thinking  for themselves. But anyone
who  has been in a cult  would  see Trump for what he is. A money hungry
con artist who will do what it takes to stay in the White House.

He has hired a bunch of high priced lawyers, lawyers he expects to stand up for him.
I wonder if they agreed to work for him for the good of the country or for their own
good? Only time will tell, but one I won't name said a president should be held more
accountable than any other American. So will he stand by his word or work to keep
the most corrupt man ever, in the white house? Already  just agreeing to be Trump's
lawyer seems to show his hypocrisy.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 18, 2020, 12:57:08 pm
Only 290 days more to put up with election politics.

The group of lawyers Trump has to defend him in his impeachment trial, look
like they belong in a made for TV drama instead of real life. They are using
excuses that make no sense to any honest constitutional lawyer or professor
in a college of law. It appears they are there to give the GOP senators any
excuse they can come up with, so they can vote to keep Trump without looking
like they are part of Trumps cover up. A cover up Trump continues to work on.

It seems Trump has a failing memory, because 20 years ago he called one of
his impeachment defense lawyers anything, but a good lawyer. Now he can't
brag enough on him. This seems to be a common problem Trump has with his
memory, because he often claims he doesn't know people he used to  hang
out with. Of course he could be telling lies instead. I wonder which one of
these excuses his followers and the GOP like best, lies or a failing memory?

A while back Trump changed rules to allow new roads, and other government
projects to be started without a proper environmental impact study. Studies
that prevent very costly mistakes, when later it's found out they are harmful
to the environment. Though these studies take a lot of time, history has shown
it saves money in the long run. It appears Trump uses the ignorance of many
to gain favor by removing rules history has shown we need to protect our
environment.

Trump like many in the GOP favor big business interests over the environment
and the public good. They do this to gain donations that help pay their re
election costs. Also big business want to support those in congress who
will look out for their profits.

This shows we need to change campaign finance laws so those elected
officials in government don't have to spend half their time raising
money  to be re elected. Instead tax money should be given to those
people support for elected office. Also we need term limits to have
fresh people in government. Not good old boy politics keeping people
in office for 20 - 30 years or more. Also change how we elect a
president, so he or she is elected by a popular vote of the country.
Not by an antiquated system of electors.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 19, 2020, 12:44:11 pm
289 days to go. Make sure your registered to vote, because the GOP might remove you if you
for got to dot an "I" ore cross a "T" when you first registered.

The GOP and other Trump supporters always claim those who are indicted have no
credibility. Especially if they make Trump look bad. If this is the case, then why
give Trump any credibility either? If he wasn't  the president he would have one
and likely more indictments against him.

Moscow Mitch wants to keep the press away from Trump's impeachment trial. To
keep them from senators too. I guess he and Trump are afraid if the public finds
out how really crooked they are, it would be politically bad for them. This has been
a habit of the GOP for years. They want to hide their unscrupulous acts from the
public eye. Just as they did trying to kill Obama care, and their passage of the
their tax cut for the rich.

It is sad how the GOP feel they have to cheat, and remove voting rights. If they
didn't try to push their condescending ideas on the American public, and work
for the average person instead of the rich. They wouldn't need to. Now they
are letting the most corrupt president in modern history tell them what to do.
doesn't matter that Trump has committed criminal acts, Turned against
the constitution, and his oath of office. They still want to support and even
lie for him. I hope the GOP suffers their biggest loss in their history, during
the next election. Because to me their acts are unpatriotic, to say the least.

It's time the GOP stand up for their oath of office and the country. Trump is bad
for America, not just the GOP. Trump hasn't the mental capability to be the
president of the united states. Even as a business man he was a failure. If it
wasn't for his fathers fortune he would be broke, and living on welfare.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 20, 2020, 12:49:48 pm
288 days to go. One year from today hopefully Trump will be out, and
perhaps indicted the same day. I bet he tries to pardon himself.
Even if he is allowed to do it, it won't save him from state crimes.

The trial starts tomorrow. Will Moscow Mitch go for a dismissal?
So far he is hiding his plans to defeat justice. It's possible enough
GOP senators mess up his plans by voting to have witnesses after
all. Something that could turn Trump's world upside down and shake
it. Who knows what might fall out. We know the GOP leaders and
Trump want to keep it hidden, so it must be really bad.

I understand the GOP defense is likely to be, "Yes he did it, but it isn't
impeachable." Well it's up to the senators to decide if it's impeachable 
or not. Impeachment doesn't require anything but for a president
to break his oath of office. When the constitution was created
there was no laws for them to state except Treason and Bribery.
Seems to me holding back money for a favor is a form of bribery.
Only time will tell, but I don't think the GOP senators have the
guts to remove Trump, even though they should.

History has shown when a political leader hires people who
end up going to jail. That leader is usually just as guilty
as they are. If Trump didn't have the GOP to protect him
he would likely be in prison, just as is lawyer fixer is now.

Bloomberg, the billionaire running against Trump may not
deserve the nomination, but at least he is reminding the public
what kind of dirty president Trump really is.

I know a lot of people feel the Democrats are out to get rid
of the right to have firearms. This is a falsehood the GOP
use, because they know a lot of people will vote for them
if they appear to protect gun rights. The truth is it would
take a constitutional amendment to take firearms from
the public. This would require a 2 thirds vote of congress
and 2 thirds of the states to pass. The only thing Democrats
can do is regulate the use of firearms, and accessories.
This would be very limited, done mostly by states.

Another thing people should remember is Trump has failed
to keep even half of his campaign promises. He tries to
blame the Democrats for this, but his tax cut for the rich
and his huge budget for the military used up the money
needed for improving our infrastructure, and other projects.
Obviously this had nothing to do with the Democrats.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 22, 2020, 12:47:51 pm
286 days till Trumps reckoning. It's likely he will claim vindication when
this so called trial fails to remove him, but we as voters will have the
last say.

Trump is in Switzerland pretending to be president while at home his
impeachment continues. He loves to claim how great he is. He creates
a problem, then if he manages to fix that problem he wants to claim
his greatness over it. Trump isn't even a passable president, but he
knows how to manipulate people, and how to convince his supporters
he is doing great things that have little or no value to anyone but
himself.

During his rally's he only wants to make a big speech about how
great a job he is doing, or to claim all his problems are due to
the Democrats. He never takes questions from his supporters.
One of them yelled a question and he called that person a rude
name, rather than giving a proper answer. He knows if he starts
answering questions he will likely hurt himself politically.

Though the GOP claim they want a fair trial, but they voted to not bring
relevant witnesses or evidence before them. We can only ask, what are
they afraid of? What is Trump afraid of by not providing evidence to
prove his innocence? Trump claims he can't, due to presidential
privilege, but that privileged is at his discretion. So that claim
just shows he wants to hide evidence.

The GOP want to put off witnesses till the end if at all. This is just
stalling, and Moscow Mitch will likely ask for a vote to dismiss after
arguments from both sides are made. Claiming there isn't any reason
to continue.

With 70% of the public wanting witnesses and evidence. I wonder what
excuse those senators up for re election will say to their voters if they
vote to reject witnesses and evidence at the end. A trial without witnesses
or evidence is no trial at all. So far the GOP are just making a joke out of
Trumps impeachment. Just as he wants it to be.

Politicians who claim innocence should want the proof laid out where all
can see. Coverups just shows those involved are afraid, and want
to hide something that would ruin them politically.

The GOP leadership are saying the impeachment articles  don't
justify removal of a president. These people are smarter than that.
They are just hoping the public is dumb enough to believe them.
This is risky on their part. Perhaps the public wilt forget by voting
day that the GOP voted to keep a very corrupt man in the white
house. But if they don't, the GOP could regret it for years to
come.

I find it strange the GOP would put so much at risk just to
keep control of the White House. They don't like Trump, they
just like the voter support he has. Because the Vice president
would give them conservative people for judges, and help
big business too, but it's very doubtful he could be elected
president.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 23, 2020, 12:49:37 pm
285 days to go. The GOP should be following their oath, but
it seems they care more about staying in office  than
protecting our democracy. History may show this GOP
controlled senate being the most unpatriotic of our time.

While arguments were being made, some of the senators were
seen walking out, one even had a interview on Fox News when
he should have been in the senate chambers. The chief justice
should be calling these members down  for their lack of attention,
but apparently not. I can guarantee if a jurist in a court trial did
any of these things they would be fined or held in contempt.

Trump has the gall to tweet telling senators that having
the witnesses Democrats want would damage national
security. If anything having Trump as president damages
our national security. He talks to Putin of Russia who likely
gives him advice. He talks to other dictators around the
world more than our allies. Trump has publicly stated he
believes Putin over our CIA. It's likely Trump would sell us
out for money, if the offer was big enough.

Trump is nothing but a schoolyard bully in a mans body. He is
a child mentally and a danger to our country and the world. The
sooner he is removed from office the better for us all. Any man
who has temper tantrums has no business holding the most
powerful office in the world.

The only thing that could stand between us and a nuclear war is
our military leaders. Men Trump calls babies, and stupid, because
he thinks he is a military genius. A genius who isn't smart enough
to know his own ignorance. A true genius would never think of
them self that way. Because they would know their true limitations.
Something Trump would never admit, probably not even to
himself.



This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 24, 2020, 12:46:21 pm
284 days to go. The GOP have tided their political lives to Trump. A man who
has in most elections since his near loss in 2016, has done little to help GOP
members win re election. It seems his followers like him, but they don't
listen that much to his demands on how they should vote.

I think the GOP and even the News Media have forgotten how close Trump came
to loosing. This near loss shows Trump may be popular with a substantial part
of the population, but not in control of them. Perhaps not even enough to
re elect GOP members who have turned their back on our country, just to
support Trump, a corrupt president. Elections over the past 3 years show how
much the GOP is risking, and in November they will earn their reward. A reward
they may not have wanted.

Those defending Trump, may claim he was only holding aid to stop corruption in
Ukraine, if that was the case why didn't Trump question this in 2017, and 2018?
He signed a bill giving aid to Ukraine in 2018. This claim of Trump only started
after Joe Biden entered the presidential race in April of 2019. Then why did he
hire a private investigator when he had the full power of the U S government to
do the job? The more you dissect this scheme of Trump, the more corrupt it looks.

As it happens even those in the White House were concerned, and worried it
would cause Trump trouble, but he never listens to advice he doesn't agree
with. The Mueller report showed how far Trump would go to cover up wrong
doings. But his attorney general claimed the report showed nothing wrong.
A man Trump and the GOP hired to protect and fix problems for their King.

The public at large may find it hard to see the problem, so the Democrats should
simplify it. A good example is where a home owner goes to city hall, and asks for
a permit to add a room on to their house. The person responsible for granting
permits tells them you got it, but I need a favor first. Give me a thousand in cash,
and the permit is yours. I think this would hit home with most voters. It's a form
of  corruption that has put many people in prison across the country. People in
government can't ask for personal favors  to do their jobs. Though some still try.

It seems Trump thinks he can run the country like a business, and offer bribes
to get the work done. He hadn't been president more than a few days when he
wanted to make it legal to offer bribes. He complained when his staff told him
he would have to get  congress to agree. So apparently Trump does believe as
the big eared guys in the TV show Star Trek do, that offering bribes is the proper
way of doing business. Perhaps the GOP does as well.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 25, 2020, 01:10:19 pm
283 days to go. The presidents men speak out to defend him.

To hear them talk Trump is a great president, and how terrible it is that
such a great president be subject to impeachment. Isn't it interesting that
they want to talk about how good he is, but not about how he hides evidence.
Or to keep people from testifying about him. A innocent man does not hide
while claiming he didn't do it. An innocent man would want all evidence
revealed. So we can listen to all the excuses by his defense, but we won't
hear any part of what he is hiding.

Also they talked about how sad it would be to remove a president who
the people voted for. They failed to mention it was less than one hundred
thousand votes that gave him the win, and not by the majority of
the people, where he lost by almost 3 million votes.

The defense is playing selected hearings videos as the Democrats did.
Only thing  they fail to mention that their questions are asked in a way
to lead the  witness in most cases. Something a judge wouldn't allow,
but the GOP  didn't have to worry about a judge,  and if the Democrats
stopped them  hey would claim it was unfair.

They talk about Trump phone call, but I have yet to hear them read it
from start  to finish. Instead they want to point out things that have
nothing to do with the articles  of impeachment. Like Trump talked about
how much money he is giving  them over what  Germany is. Trump
seems to think our national security should be paid for by other
countries. Even to take natural resources  from them in payment
for our aid.

This just shows how little Trump understands diplomacy. If we
started to take resources that way, it would cause constant warfare,
and hate of our country. He just can't understand business practices
do not work between nations.

They also claimed Trump was only holding aid because of corruption, so
why did he wait till 2019 to complain about it. He approved aid in 2017
and in 2018 as well. So this corruption excuse just doesn't fly.

It seems the GOP is wanting to claim the whistle blower had a political
bias. Now isn't that interesting. So why is his report the same as the
transcript of Trumps call? If there was bias it would have been 
different. The GOP and Trump have been trying to intimidate
anyone who might think about reporting wrong doing by
Trump or anyone working for him.

Much of the defense of Trump is there isn't any direct proof that
Trump did this. It is true Trump didn't come right out and say I am
going to extort Ukraine, but his words, and actions leads one to
believe it Well much of that has been hidden by Trump himself.
A the GOP wants to protect him, and will likely vote to dismiss
instead of requiring new evidence or witnesses. Also the defense
is wanting to give senators talking points, so they can go talk to
voters and defend their protection of Trump.

Some in the GOP complained when the Democrats accused Trump
of putting GOP senators heads on pikes if they don't support him.
They complain on this, after all of what Trump has done to
anyone who causes him trouble? It's nothing but sour  grapes.
Because they know if Trump thought he could get by with it,
he might just do it. Also they know if they turn against him
he will spend millions trying to ruin them politically, and
possibly more.

The worst statement was Trump feel he has good reason
to believe Russia's Putin over our CIA, This effectively gives
Putin control of Trump's thinking. Control that could tear
down our allies around the world, and loss of trust by
other Nations.

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 26, 2020, 12:56:36 pm
282 days to go. If they don't have the facts to defend Trump, then lie.

During their defense of Trump on Saturday they claimed the whole house
had to vote first to legally subpoena evidence or witnesses. This was a lie.
And they did vote to start a impeachment inquiry. Of course it was a partisan
vote since Trump had told all the GOP members to not vote for it. If they
did it was reported Trump would work to cost them their seat.

They claimed Trump was concerned about corruption. Another misleading
defense as he didn't do anything till Joe Biden entered the race for president.
A man that has a very good chance to  defeat him.

Another misleading statement was that Ukraine didn't know the aid was cut off till
after the call Trump made in July. Truth is they were asking about it in May.
They knew the aid had been approved, but where is it?

They also said the president of Ukraine said he wasn't under any pressure by Trump.
What would anyone say if they had a virtual gun to their head. Because if he said he
was being pressured, Trump would likely leave Ukraine without any aid.

This has been the way the GOP has defended Trump all along. They come of with one
excuse after another. To claim the process was unfair. Even though the Democrats
satisfied every one of their excuses as it went along. It appears they still want to
use the same old excuses. Perhaps they think we have forgotten, now that they know
the Democrats can't come back and dispute them on the floor of the senate.

The GOP say the Democrats should have gone to court to get evidence  and
witnesses. The reason they didn't, is that it would take months if not years
to defeat every defense Trumps team would use to fight it. They would
run it all the way to the Supreme court again and again. If Trump isn't
removed he will use all the power of the presidency to win in November.
No matter wither it's legal or not, and the GOP will be behind him all the
way.

It is sad for our country in that the conservative media continues to protect Trump,
the most corrupt president in modern history. What will they say if when we put a
Democrat in the white house that does the same thing? What will the GOP do if
this happens? I have a good hunch they will be squealing like stuck hogs, and
demanding immediate impeachment. You can be sure they will demand all
evidence and to hear from all witnesses as well.

Some of the GOP are complaining about the Democrats and media calling Trump
names. Guess they forgot all the nasty names they called Trump during his
campaign. Now they practically kiss Trumps feet. I think the GOP leadership
will do what ever it takes to keep political power. Perhaps they think Trump
is bad, but by the time he is out they can fix everything he wrecked.

That is very short sighted, because Russia and  China are gaining influence
around the world. If Trump continues with another term. It will take many
years if at all to undo the damage to freedom for people around the world.
Some might think we shouldn't care, but if we are alone, others will control
trade, and commerce. Leaving us behind.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 27, 2020, 12:58:30 pm
281 days to go. Over the weekend evidence came out by first hand account
that Trump did want to hold aid from Ukraine till they publicly accused Joe
Biden of corruption. Of course Trump is calling it a lie. The problem for
Trump is the man is willing to testify this in the senate under penalty of
perjury. Will  Trump do the same?

The interesting thing about this is, this man is very conservative, and the
GOP leadership pushed to have him working for Trump. So will they turn
on him now? Then go with Trump and his lies. A man who lies nearly 
every time he opens his mouth. 

Will this new evidence sway a least 4 GOP senators enough to vote to see
it? Or will they join with Trump and his cover up? I have a hunch there are
a lot of people expecting to get a pardon from Trump. Other wise they will
be spending time in prison when Trump is gone. Perhaps even Trump's
attorney general, and Trump himself.

Already Trump's supporters are wanting to say even if Trump did it, it's not
bad enough to impeach him. To follow this logic impeachment for any reason
will never happen, for any president. In spite of what Barr claims, the president
shouldn't be immune from legal investigations or indictments. We have a vice
president to step in if needed.

The Iowa primary is only a week away, and it appears Senator Sanders is in the
lead. Not only that, he is leading in New Hampshire too. The first states voting
for a Democratic nominee for president. If he wins in both states, he will have
a start that my be hard to stop. Time will tell, but already the GOP is taking
notice, and will be bad mouthing him if he does take the lead.

People who worry that Sanders is a socialist, shouldn't worry, because he can't
do much unless congress, and the senate agree. At least, unlike Trump he cares
about the people, not just those who vote for him. Also he cares about national
security, and won't be the puppet of big business and world dictators for the
money it might gain him. Something Trump lives for.

I think Sanders would make a fine president. He isn't perfect, and unlike Trump
he doesn't claim to be. He will work for our health and environment, and I am
sure he will attempt to undo Trump's harm to our country, and work for our
economic health. Unlike Trump he will work for jobs, not just claim to. Stop
wasting money on a wall that exists only for Trump's good.

I think all those running for the Democratic nomination would do the job,  unlike
Trump who mostly pretends to, and spends a third of his time playing or tweeting.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 28, 2020, 01:00:35 pm
280 days to go. You can tell Trump's defense team is following his orders.
Some have reversed their opinions since they were for impeachment of
President Clinton some 20 years ago. So are they working for the good
of the country, or their back pocket and Trump's favor?

If abuse of power isn't impeachable, just what is? Trump has given national
secrets to Russia, a country who wants us out of the way. Though Trump
has done a little good, which is debatable. We have to hold him accountable
or we might as well give him a crown and scepter. Where we must obey or
have our heads put on pikes. 

Some say to be fair Trump must have a defense. Well to be fair to the
people there should be witnesses and evidence too. Only thing is the GOP
and Trump don't care about the people, or the constitution. They only
care about themselves, and the power they want to keep.

If you think they do care about the people. Then why only the rich, and not
the average American? It's been shown Trump thinks little of people of color,
and to him women are only good for rich men to play with. He implied this
in a video.

The sad thing is people voted for him after seeing this. I am sure many will
vote for him again, but this time there will be a real effort to defeat him.
Because this time, people know him much better than before. Even lies
from his friends in Russia may not be enough to help him win.

Some might feel why not accept evidence from a foreign country. They
problem with that is it's validity can't be proven. Allowing a president
to extort such evidence would likely be used to harm any opponent
that put any corrupt presidents re election at risk.

Not only has Trump tried to get dirt on Biden from Ukraine. He has
attorney general Barr traveling the world looking for anything he can
find to hurt Joe Biden. A man Trump fears will defeat him. Trump
barely won in 2016, and he has done little to increase his voter
base since then. So he may lose big, and take many GOP
politicians he has corrupted with him.

Will the GOP controlled senate do as the people want, which is
having evidence and witnesses? If they fail to do so, they may
pay dearly by losing their next election. This puts them in a
box, because having witnesses will keep this impeachment
trial going for weeks, and new revelations about Trump's
guilt continue to build. Perhaps to the point where they
will have to vote to remove, or at least for his guilt.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 29, 2020, 01:00:38 pm
279 days to go. Moscow Mitch, and Trump don't want evidence or witnesses.
 Both of which are required in any fair trial. So apparently the GOP and Trump
don't want a fair trial. Just a vote by the GOP controlled senate to acquit
Trump, the most  corrupt president in modern times. So we must ask WHY?
If they do join the president in his cover up, they should be voted out of
office, because they care not for what's right, but for their own benefit.

The so called trial moves to the question stage where senators ask questions
of the defense and prosecution. These questions are asked through the chief
justice who will decide if the question is relevant or not. Time will tell, how
involved he wants to be. Since the constitution doesn't give him much
guidance.

After this there will be debates to decide on witnesses, evidence, and any
other thing they wish to do before their decision wither to remove Trump
or not.

I think it's time we take politics out of the constitution. Because when a
decision that effects us all occurs. Politics should not be involved. Instead
the facts should decide, not by partisan politicians who are only concerned
about the next election, and who will help pay for it. Some might feel voters
should decide. The problem with that is they often don't know what is really
going on, and corrupt politicians won't tell them the truth.

I don't think the founders had partisanship in might when they wrote our
constitution. I think they felt there would always be enough honest people
in government to hold the line on corruption. Unfortunately this idea has
failed. Not just now, but people down through history have tried to benefit
themselves in government. Not just congress, or the senate. It's very rare
for a president, but even there  it happens, and with that power it can be
a danger to our democracy.

I am sure every corrupt mayor or governor  would love to have a partisan
trial when they have been caught doing wrong, and the kind of trial the
GOP is giving Trump would bring smiles to them all. This is why impeachment
trials should not be political, but a real trial with real non partisan jurists. As
is it's rigged when a political leader has control. Control that does nothing
to help justice. As is our impeachment trials have nothing to do with justice
when partisanship takes over. Be it the GOP or the Democrats.

I fear it will take a revolution to make any real changes to the constitution that
would effect political power. Because the voting public isn't interested enough
to make these kind of changes. It would require electing people that the
establishment  would work hard to defeat, and so would big business concerns,
along with the rich.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 30, 2020, 01:11:18 pm
278 days till the election, and it seems the GOP are betting Trump will
help them win. Otherwise why would they turn against the constitution
in support of him. They may regret their lawlessness, because over the
past 3 years he hasn't been of much help. It may be his supporters like
him, but that doesn't necessarily translate to the GOP members running
for office, because the GOP has lost hundreds of seats across the nation
since Trump won the White House in 2016.

Trumps defense team has made statements that make little or no sense at
all. Almost like they are speaking to Trump instead of the senators. To
please a man who thinks he can do no wrong. One actually stated Trump
can do anything he personally feels is good for the country. No limits at
all, and definitely not impeachable. This lawyer tried on TV to say he
didn't really say this. He should have said he said it to please Trump
instead. Because it's on video.

In a court trial it's illegal for the defendant to intimidate witnesses
or jurists. But both the senate leader and Trump are doing this with
senators to convince them to vote their way. This is fine when trying
to get senators to vote for a bill, but it should be illegal when deciding
a point of law. This act should add another article of impeachment to
Trump, and at least a big fine for the senate leader to pay.

It seems the GOP leadership feels only they know how to run the
country. I think this is just more rich men wanting to control the
system of government for their own benefit. To protect their pocket
book from the Democrats, who will give their money to people they
don't like. People who can just die and remove the surplus population.

Sound familiar? 200 years ago when the book "Scrooge was written,
the rich truly felt they were the elite  of society, and everyone else
were lowly commoners. People they  could cheat, and punish if they
got in the way. This way of thinking is still around, and if we aren't
careful they will return to it. Just like the frog who was slow boiled.
The rich will turn up the heat, by  taking our rights till they have
full control.

We are at a critical time, because if Trump thinks he may lose a
state, he could call the governor, and tell him he must close polling
sites in areas that favor his opposition for the public good. How?
just a claim to protect people from the spread of a disease. A
danger that would be hard to disprove, and could stop thousands
of votes.

Once he wins, even something like this wouldn't get him removed
with the help of his supporters in the GOP. He might just try something
like this, because he has gotten away with breaking the law and his oath
of office already. All for the public good according to Trump, and his
GOP puppets. 

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 31, 2020, 12:55:40 pm
277 days left before the people vote. The senate seems prepared to acquit 
without any new witnesses or evidence. Is the GOP afraid of what this might
prove? It could just as easily show Trump innocent. It's likely president
Trump who knows the truth, is afraid of what could come out, and has
told GOP senators  to acquit him, without witnesses, and evidence, or else.

They shouldn't be afraid of Trump. If he cost them their seat he would lose
the senate for the GOP. His actions just might do that anyway. Because over
70% of the people want new evidence and witnesses, and by voting no the
GOP senators may  sealed their fate. Perhaps they are betting the people
will have forgotten by election day, but it's very likely the truth will continue
to come out, and they will have to explain their actions time and time again.

The GOP claim witnesses and evidence will take too long. This would be the first
impeachment trial without witnesses. They had a impeachment trial to remove
a federal judge that allowed 22 witnesses. So it appears the GOP feel an
impeachment for a judge was more important than one for the president. Judge
impeachments happen more often than we might think, yet the senate continues
to do it's buisness. The same could be done during diliberation of new witnesses
and evidence for the president. Inspite
of their claim.

This fast joke of an impeachment trial is so Trump can be on TV during the superbowl,
so he can brag to the millions of people watching that he was found innocent of all the
charges by the Democrats, twice. Because he thinks the Muellar report showed him
innocent too. Then to brag about how great a president he is during a state of the union
adress on February 4. Though an acquitment by a simple vote of his party is hardly
proof  of innocence, he will still claim it.

With this escape from conviction Trump will have no fear to use any means to win in
November. So we can expect to hear Trump call his opponets anything but fit to hold
the office of president. Because only he can save the country from all the bad
conspearacies he can come up with.

There is a rumer that Moscow Mitch may delay a vote for acquital till next
week. Could be he can't get enough votes because a GOP senator or two
don't want to give Trump bragging points on tV and during the state of the
union.  Only time will tell.

The media  continues to worry about the  Democrats ability to win in November.
The media loves controversy, so I think they want to keep things stirred up.
So we can expect them to keep the election very close till the end.
 
This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 01, 2020, 01:01:37 pm
276 days left. Well the GOP senators joined Trumps coverup by voting to
not have any witnesses or new evidence. It seems, like Trump, they were
afraid for the public to hear, and see solid evidence that Trump used the power
of his office for personal gain. Not only that by not supporting Ukraine, he put
our national security at risk, because if Ukraine falls to Russian control
Poland will have Russian tanks facing their boarder.

Some GOP senators even admitted Trump's guilt, but claimed it didn't
rise to  impeachment. Well if breaking laws and not following the
constitution isn't impeachable. What is? They apparently are scared
of the cult of Trump, because even those senators who don't plan to
tor run for re election seem to fear him. 

Some might say, why worry about Europe and it's disputes with Russia.
Because if Europe falls under the thumb of Putin, We will lose our influence 
of trade there. Being alone means the rest of the world can limit our access
to world trade. Also the loss of freedom around the world will cause
unrest, and dictators often dispute trade and boarders. Setting up
more chances for wars. Especially with global warming driving people
from lands that rising ocean levels will submerge.

Trump uses Nationalism  to gain votes, but he has little interest
in our country. He claims he is against abortion, but it's likely he
has paid for several due to  his promiscuous acts with women. 
He claims to support minority rights, but he treats African Americans
and other minorities like second class citizens.  This includes women
and the LGBTQ community.

He claims to be a born again Christian, but doesn't follow religious
values. He claims to care about children, but locks immigrant children
in cages, with little or no care. He plays to  the worst of us at his
rally's. Even to be a puppet of the far right who wants a return to
the early 1950's socially.

Trump and the GOP brag about the economy, but the economy
under Trump is slowing down. His best year was 2.8% for the year.
Last year was 2.1%. This after all the promises that his big tax cut
would give us 4 or even 5 percent growth. He brags about the stock
market, which has done well, but only about half of Americans
gain from it. Trump brags when it goes up, and is silent when
it goes down.

Most of all he plays to peoples fear of change. A change where
White Americans will be in the minority. This scares those in
the far right. They consider Trump a bulwark against his
change. and they look to Moscow Mitch to turn the federal
courts so conservative they will slow this change by limiting
the rights of minorities, and people of color.

If we the voters allow the Trump and the far right to  control 
government. This country will be set back  decades for the
rights of many Americans. And the poor, sick, elderly and
handicapped will be forced to  beg in the streets. Because
private charities  don't have the resources to deal with it.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 02, 2020, 12:48:12 pm
275 and counting.

Tomorrow is primary day for Iowa.  A day where Democrats will start
to decide who they hope will defeat Trump in November. Will it be
Joe Biden? Obama's Vice president, a moderate that some in the
GOP probably could vote for. Or Senator Sanders, a progressive
who admits he is a socialist. Or Senator Warren, a woman who's
policies are much like Sanders.

I am sure Trump would claim Senator sanders is a communist, because
of his socialist ideas. What Trump and the GOP fail to mention, is the
subsidies they give big business is socialism for the rich. They claim
it's to create jobs, but the  big tax cuts they gave big business was
used more to buy back stock they sold, instead of growing to create
new jobs. Yes some got bonuses, but the country needs jobs that
pay enough to cover rising expenses caused by inflation.

The GOP and Trump don't want to increase the minimum  wage. In
fact they would get rid of it if they thought they could get by with it.
Just like health insurance for people with preexisting conditions. Oh
they claim they care, but once elected they want to forget about it.
Just as Trump did.

There are 2 billionaires in the group. Neither are like Trump. In
fact they are true billionaires, unlike Trump who is more of a
small time billionaire playboy  than anything else. Trump
claims to be a great businessman, yet he went bankrupt
4 times. Where these two are real, and I mean real. successful
billionaire  businessmen who didn't have  it given to them
like Trump did.

I am not a big fan of putting another billionaire in the
white house, but at least these people are smart
enough to do the job, and have a history of helping
people. Unlike Trump who only has a history of helping
himself. Something his supporters should judge him by,
instead of his lies.

Actually Trump shouldn't be eligible to run for president, as
it was admitted by his  defense team that he broke the law.
Something they claimed he couldn't be impeached for.

Perhaps someone should take this to court so Trump would
have to prove he is eligible, so he could actually run for
political office this November. If I had the money, I  sure
would. Of course his people would claim he hasn't been
convicted. Yet he would be under indictment if attorney
general Barr wasn't protecting him.

I figure Trump has a pardon for himself already made out
and signed by the VP. So if he loses  the election he can
resign a few days before the new president takes office. So
the VP could have the pardon power.  All he would have to do
is date the paper of pardon. That could save him from federal
offenses, but not those by the states. Something that would
likely take years to deliberate.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 03, 2020, 12:38:20 pm
274 days till election 2020.

It's primary day in Iowa, and the crowd of people working to get the  Democratic
nomination to run for president, are working hard for all the support they can get.
By tomorrow one of them will have made their first step toward their goal of being
president of the United States of America. Then it's on to  New Hampshire hoping
for another win.

I imagine Trump will be bragging about a big win each time he wins primaries
across the nation. Even though he has no real opposition.  He hasn't had much
success in helping others in the GOP win elections, but we can be sure he will
continue to try.

If Trump really cared about the country, he would resign, but his ego wouldn't
allow him to do such a honorable thing. This self indulgence where he considers
himself to be a genius is one reason he shouldn't be president. Other leaders down
through history who have felt this way, not only harmed themselves, but their
country as well. Any student of history should know this to be true.

Will the GOP senators feel good after they vote to keep a corrupt president?
Could be they will, or perhaps they hope it will please Trump's Cult enough
to get re elected. Those retiring may feel it will keep them and their family
from being harassed by those in Trump's cult. Perhaps it will in states that
want a king instead of a  president. Personally I want a president that cares
about all the people, not just those who voted for him or her.

Trump doesn't seem to understand he is president of the United States,
not the republican party. It's not his job to work for the party. If he wanted
to work for the party he should have run for congress, or the senate. I
sometimes think a president should be limited to one 6 year term. That
way the party's policies wouldn't be so important. Be they Democrat or
GOP. But for the good of the country.

The senate was created to be a non partisan body. Not one to  follow the
wishes of any group, but to keep the law and the constitution. Over the
years though, corruption has entered the senate. Corruption to give groups
control of the body. In such a way to give them power for their own good
and not the country, or our democracy. I fear this corruption is a disease
will be very difficult to  cure or end. Only those senators who wish to make
our democracy stronger will vote to return the senate to the independent
body it was men to be. Others will vote to keep the power they desire,
and not for the good of the country, or our democracy.

It's this corrupt senate that allows this corrupt president to continue working
for himself, and not the country. Worst of  all he cares not for our democracy.
or the constitution except when it works for his own good. Now it's up to the
voters to rid this plague infecting our democracy. A cure he will work hard to
prevent between now and November.

The voters will have to be strong in their conviction, because many will
try to convince them into thinking Trump must be re elected for the public
good. Since the senate has given him permission to get help from
other countries. We can expect those corrupt leaders who like him
will do all they  can to help him win.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 04, 2020, 01:06:54 pm
273 days to go, and we hope the DNC doesn't mess up as they did in Iowa again.

Though the news media is making a big deal out of it, I think most people know who
did fairly well last night. In case anyone is interested Trump won the GOP Caucus last
night. There were two opponents, which is good. Because Trump should have to work
for the nomination, otherwise the RNC would
just declare him the nominee. 

I won't guess about the winners last night, but should know tomorrow. Of course
Trump is making a big deal out of this DNC mess up. Even though the GOP did
a poor job last time in 2016. It's likely both parties will want do end the Caucus
way of choosing nominees, and Iowa may pay the price by not being the first
state to choose next go around.

Tonight Trump will give his Sate of the Union address, in case anyone wants
to tune in. Be prepared to hear Trump claim his greatness, and why he needs
another 4 years to finish making the country great again. I am sure he will
mislead and  lie, so his supporters will cheer at his next rally. Rally's where
Trump makes sure only his supporters are allowed to attend. Because he only
wants to hear cheers, and no questions from his cult audience. It's been shown
any time Trump gets boo's he turns his back on the audience. I guess to hide
his pouty  face.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 05, 2020, 12:53:10 pm
272 days left.

Not the state of the union, but the start of Trump's campaign for re election. Even to
be rude to the speaker of the house. The third person in the line of succession for
the office of president. She rightly tore up Trump's speech after he finished.  Because
it was more of a political rally than the state of the Union speech by a true president.

As I figured, Trump was a true con artist last night. Oh his words sounded so good,
but there is little or no substance behind them. He claims the economy is all because
of him.  Yet growth was better under president Obama. Yes  unemployment is down, but it
was dropping faster during Obama's last 3 years than during the first 3 years of
Trump. 

He claimed he is for lower costs for health care and medicine, so why hasn't he worked
for it. He asked for a bipartisan bill to do this, and he would sign it. Well there is such
a bill waiting in the senate. So he only needs to tell Moscow Mitch to put it up for a vote.
He won't because the pharmaceutical, and insurance corporations  don't want it, and I
 am  sure he doesn't want to lose the money their lobbyists have offered not to
pass it.

infrastructure repair was mentioned, so where was this during the last 3 years.
I can tell you. He spent too much money with this big tax cut and on the military. 
Something he wants to blame others for not getting work on infrastructure done.

A sad thing is Trump has no compassion for others. Yes he talks compassion,
but he has none in his heart. People who have compassion show it when they
talk, they show it with their body language. Trump didn't change when he
talked about people who had suffered a  lot. Just a monotone speak. Only 
changing when  he started talking ab out himself, and how great he is.

He runs down sanctuary cities. He doesn't care that people would be afraid
to report crimes if the police turned them over to ICE. So crimes would
increase if there was no protection from ICE in these cities. Crime that
would effect Americans as well as immigrants.

Trump claimed there was a blue collar wave in  job growth, when thousands
have lost there jobs during his time in office. He talked about farmers doing
better when many have gone bankrupt because of his trade war.
His fake claims of caring about service men, and there family's was only
political. Our service men in Iraq who were harmed with Iran's missile 
strike has been ignored by him. Claiming their headaches, are  nothing
serious.

As I said Trump knows how to use words to make people feel good, but
it's just talk. He has no plans to do anything that he can't point to.  That
fence he calls a wall is something he can  point to. Otherwise he wouldn't
care about it.

He talked about helping people of color last night, because he knows
he will need their vote this fall. They shouldn't let his false  promises
gain their support. Because Trump cares little for them and will never
change.

If Trump is re elected, he will do nothing for the people. He will work to
please his voting base, but little else. What he will do is work to  make
all the money he can as president. And I am sure he will push for a third
 term with the excuse that the democrats ruined his first term. When all
his problems over his first term were his own fault.

Another sad note is how he is misusing the Medal of Freedom.  Much as a
king would give knighthood to someone who is loyal to them. This medal
was meant for those who have done great things for our country. Not
as a medal of loyalty to a corrupt president.

It was curious how he had his wife give Rush Limbaugh the medal instead of
doing it himself. Perhaps Trump was afraid he might catch Rushes cancer if
he got close. Trump has admitted to being a germophobe. So it could be the
reason. Rush didn't deserve the medal anyway. Trump just did it so those
who like Rush would like him for it. .

This report on our pathetic president only gave some of his lies and
misleading statements during his speech. The American voter must
listen to the facts, and ignore Trump's lies. Otherwise Trump will do
a lot of harm to our democracy if he is in office another 4 years.  Not
counting putting the sick, poor, and elderly at risk with his far right
conservative policies.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 06, 2020, 01:19:19 pm

Over the next 271 days all but one GOP senator will have to explain
to his or her voters why they voted to  keep the most corrupt president in
history, in the white house.

 The vote to acquit had barely been made when Trump's attorney general
notified all federal  prosecutors across the nation to not investigate anyone
running for office till after the election this November. Unless he the
attorney general approves it. I have a hunch the only ones he will
approve will be those investigations of  democrats in close races, Not
those in the republican party.

This is obviously an attempt by Trump to help the GOP gain seats. I 
wouldn't be surprised if several investigations of democrats appear, good
or not,  over the next 9 months, and it's likely Trump will tell the public if
and when they do.

The speaker of the house stated that Trump appeared to be under sedation
When he was making his address. I myself thought he was rather quiet 
with his monotone speaking that night. It is possible that he was on
medication. It's anyone's guess why.

Trump ran Mitt Romneydown because he didn't vote they way he was
supposed to. According to Trump he had no right using religion to make
his decision. A vote that said Trump is guilty. A hard decision for a man
who knew it would cause him trouble. Trump shouldn't be running people
down for their religious beliefs, after all Trump was claiming this country was
 built for and by Christians. Perhaps Trump doesn't like Mormons unless
they support him. This business of only liking those who support him is
a recurring theme of Trump.

Trump knows how to work an audience. It is his profession as a
salesman after all. This is how he builds his support, by making
people think he cares about them. When he likely considers them
fools, just as any con artist would.

Something people should remember every time they listen to one of his
speeches. Because he will tell you anything you want to hear. Lies mean
nothing to him. Just as long as it gets him what he wants.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 07, 2020, 01:06:05 pm
270 days to go, and Trump is on the attack.

Trump calls anyone who doesn't agree with him  terrible
and evil. Governing is about  compromise, not by royal
declaration, from a tyrant like  Trump. He will lie and cheat
to hold the office of president. Not for the country, but
for himself.

In the past I have called him a coffee shop politician, and
he continues to prove it. I am sure we have heard idiots
in bars and coffee shops telling the crowd how easy it would
be to fix the worlds problems, problems they have little or
no understanding of. This is Trump in a nutshell, and  worse yet
he sells us out for  all the money he can get for himself and
family.

If Trump wasn't so selfish and self indulgent, he could have
been a fair president. Especially if he used his talents for the
good of the country and not himself. Trump constantly complains
about how bad he has been treated. What his ego won't let him
admit is he has caused nearly all of his problems with his hiring
of corrupt people and ignorant demands. It matters not how
long he may stay in office his problems will persist. Because
he will never change.

Trump calls the speakers tearing up her copy of his speech illegal.
He has no business calling anyone out for destroying documents.
He has done it many times himself. He claims he won the case
against him for breaking the Emoluments clause, but what was
decided by the court as the house can't bring the case against
him for breaking it. It must be done by those it effects. Like
a business owner. Such  cases are still moving through  the
courts. Something Trump didn't want to admit.

Trump just can't admit that he doesn't have the majority
support of the American people. He wants to point to his
big rally crowds as proof the country isn't really divided.
This delusion has persisted since his election. We should
be concerned that Trump may really be mentally 
disturbed or has dementia. Either that or very
persistent with his lies.

The New Hampshire primary will soon decide
who they want for president. After the Iowa mess
it's a toss up. Joe Biden was the front runner, but
apparently came in 4th place. So it will be interesting
to see how he does in this primary. Unlike Iowa it's a
vote of the people and not a caucus. I personally feel
the secret ballot more accurate, than one where everyone
knows who you claim to be for. I sometimes wonder how
many of those who vocally claim to be for Trump, but
secretly plan to not support him. Worrying they could
lose friends or be harassed if they spoke their true
feelings about him. 

I can remember when people wouldn't have stood for
a man like Trump. In the past he would have lost so
bad he likely wouldn't have even got one electoral
vote. It is so sad how the republican party has let Trump
drag them so far into the gutter. Before his nomination
the party leaders were being honest about him, but then
then they decided to turn away from country and the
constitution in favor of protecting their party, by
supporting Trump. I fear if they are not punished
for this, our democracy may be lost in favor of an
autocracy.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 08, 2020, 01:01:49 pm
269 days till we can choose an honest person for president.

Yesterday Trump had those people fired that told the truth about
him in house hearings. How dare they be disloyal to him. Because
according to his followers is a great president that deserves total
loyalty, because Trump their King can do no wrong. According to
his corrupt attorney general he can't be investigated or charged
with anything, or by anyone, legal reasons or not.

Trump has spent the last 3+ years convincing those who like
him. That they should only listen to him, and no one else. This
blind devotion to a corrupt president is dangerous for the
country and our democracy.

We are still waiting for Trump's Tax returns, but the
corrupt senate is already looking at Biden's returns trying
to help Trump their King, and not the people. We need to
remove the corrupt GOP members of both houses. Because
they won't follow their oath or the rule of law, for fear their
puppet master will put their virtual heads on a pike.

Trump seems he should be able to run the country like a
corporation. There he could demand total loyalty, and fire
anyone, but not as president of a country. In a business
the owner is King, but not in a democracy. Because he
does not own the country, or the people.

Trump only knows  how to manipulate his followers, by misleading
them with his lies. Taking advantage of their ignorance, and desire to
follow a man who they feel is working for them. They don't seem
to care how much Trump cheats tax payers. By only going to stay
at his properties, and charging the government double for it's
use. Charging the secret service who protects him, his property,
and children huge prices while claiming he isn't charging them
at all. This act of greed is something he calls smart. Yes he
calls it smart when in fact it's a form of theft. Something that
would get anyone else in serious trouble.

He may get by with these lies now, but when the truth comes out he
will find history painting him as the most corrupt man who ever
held the office of president, and guilty of damaging our standing
around the world. The name Trump will likely be used with disdain
for decades to come.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 10, 2020, 12:50:44 pm
267 days till the Trump is trumped. At least he should be.

Some of the GOP members said they had hoped Trump would
have been changed for the good after being impeached. 

Well so did a lot of voters when he was running for the office.
I can remember hearing them say, Trump  is just in campaign
mode. he will settle down as president. Well  I think those who
said that should admit they were wrong. Because Trump will
never change. Once a con artist always one.

Trump likes to brag about his supporters being out in all kinds
of weather waiting for his rally to start. Even a day early. Well
I wouldn't even go to a rally, much less one who only wanted
supporters and no one else. I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump
campaign paid them to stand there. Just for Trump to Bragg about.
The day he started running for president he paid 90 people to cheer
for him, and paid people to cheer him during the debates he was
at. So why not outside rally's as well.

It's likely he has people paid to start cheers and chants in his
rally's too. This is how he manipulates people. Making them think
his way and no one else's.

Trump knows he will need people of color to help him win another
term. So he is bringing people of color to his rally's hoping this
will gain their support. They should understand, Trump only
uses people, and will lie trying to prove he cares about
them. Later he will deny any promises he might make.
During his state of the union address he made the claim
he would see to it that children of color would get scholarships
to attend schools that would give them a great education.
Well as it turns out this was another  of Trump's lies. The
school he was talking about doesn't require any scholarships,
it's a public school available to good students of any color.

I hear his supporters talk about all the good he has done for
the country. Well working to please 30% of the  people isn't
doing much for the country. He claims he is for clean air and
water, but removes regulations that protect the environment.
He like the GOP claims he is for jobs. But thousands have lost
their job since he was elected. There were more jobs created
during the last 3 years of Obama's presidency than during
Trump's first 3 years in office.

Also Trump is handing our coastlines to big oil. Isn't it odd he didn't
include Florida's coast as well. I think he was worried it might cost
him Florida's vote this November. A vote that would likely end is time
in office.

Some might feel all this is just politics, but Trump is working to please
big corporations for their money and support. Not for Mr. and Misses
America as he claims with his lies.

Sure many people like him because of his stated position about abortion,
Gay's, and immigrants. If people are for him because they consider him a
gift from GOD, they should fire their preachers, because most religions
expect their followers to help strangers, Children, and the poor. None
of which Trump wants to help. In his mind they are losers undeserving
of anything.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 12, 2020, 01:13:23 pm

265 days till we can watch TV, listen to the radio, or open our
mailbox without being reminded who should be elected. I think
it's time we put a limit on how long political campaigns can
run. Two years is too much for the run for president. Even
a year is too long. If we elected a president by popular vote as
every other  election in the country is done. They could limit it
to 6 months. It would be hard to do, because those who make
millions carrying political advertising would fight hard to keep
it the way it is.

Well it appears Trump is at it again. Attorney General Barr has
taken over prosecution of Trumps friends. To keep them from
serving time in prison. Even though jurists found them guilty. 
As usual Trump claims he had nothing to do with it. Since
when did Trump tell the truth? He apparently doesn't want
to have to pardon them, as it might cost him a few votes.
So he lets Barr do it for him. This may backfire, because
judges don't like politics to be involved with legal issues.
At least honest judges don't. So Barr just might try to
change judges for one that owes Trump a favor. I could
be wrong, but it should be closely watched.

Trump continues his vengeance against those
who testified for his impeachment. He is implying
that those military men who testified in the hearings
should be punished by the military. Even more than
their being fired from the white house. One wasn't
even involved. Just a brother of the man who testified.
Likely figuring it would add to the hurt. All his firings
and vindictive acts are likelydone to intimidate others so
they will keep quiet about him. Just more of Trump's
mob boss mentality.

The primaries continue. Senator Sanders won in
New Hampshire last night. Biden came in fifth
Senator Warren forth. Both of who were considered
to be front runners. The news media and pun dents
are all over the place about who is going to win the
Democratic nomination. These first two states really
don't represent the Democratic party that well as
the population is 90% white.

The next elections is the Caucus in Nevada, and primary
in South Carolina. Both states are much more diverse
in their population. So it will better test the popularity
of each candidate has with minority voters.

During each election process the News media  seems
to hunt for things people might not like about a candidate.
This isn't really that bad, but it would be better to center
more on their strengths instead. If a candidate is a crook,
we need to know, but people make mistakes in life, and
looking back decades for them doesn't tell us who people
are today. Sometimes people don't change, but that is
generally easy to see.

People  voted for Trump, even though he showed how bad
a person he was nearly every time he opened his mouth.
The trouble with Trump is  he knows how to manipulate
people. Using his knowledge  of how most people process
information. he can con  people into believing he can do no
wrong. Something he has learned over his lifetime. Anyone
who has had training in sales and speaking would spot
this almost immediately. With Trump everything is about
money. Since most foreign leaders care more ab out power
than money, it puts Trump at a disadvantage. So they manipulate
him.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 13, 2020, 12:57:39 pm

264 days, and Trump is showing his true self. One supporter of his
said I would vote for him again, but if he offered me a job. I would
want to get paid up front. Seems people want to believe Trump is doing
a good job, but wouldn't work for him. People should realize that
a man who cheats people has no business being president.

Several lawyers who were working for the justice department resigned
when attorney general Barr started pulling strings for Trump, and working
to help Trump keep his crooked cronies out of jail. Barr should be removed
from his job of attorney general. He seriously harms the rule of law, by
working to keep Trump's convicted friends out of jail. 

When asked the GOP members had little to say. As usual they would
rather  hide their heads in the sand than speak out against Trump.
Just more reasons  to get rid of those in the GOP who are caught up
in the Cult of Trump.

Bloomberg is spending 100's of millions on ads in his run for president.
I am not a fan of billionaires being president. But at least his ads are
reminding people about Trump and his disgusting term in office. If
if Bloomberg does get the nomination, I will vote for him. Though
he has his faults. At least he has experience, with a history of working
for the people, unlike Trump who is learning, but only how to do a
better job of harming our democracy, and rule of law. All the while
taking all the money he can from tax payers for himself.

With all of the candidates running for the nomination, we may not have a
nominee for president till one is chosen at the Democratic convention in
July. So we can expect a long fight along the way.

Joe Biden and senator Warren are hoping for a come back, but time will tell.
Both feel they will do much better during the next two state primaries.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 14, 2020, 01:08:08 pm

263 day's left. Attorney general Barr publicly told Trump to stop interfering
in his business. Trump replied, "It's legal for me to do it." I think this was
meant to be a news event more than a real conflict. Trump likes to capture
the nightly news every chance he gets, and it doesn't matter wither
it's true or not.

This could also be a way to quell concern by Trumps followers that
the attorney general is letting Trump tell him what to do. Because
there has been a lot of concern that this may be the case. We must
work to prevent any and all political control of the justice department.
As is Trump can have anyone investigated and charged of a crime, if
he wishes to do so. Even for political reasons.

Another reason Trump needs to go is he is infecting school kids with his hate.
Some might say, it's just kids, but kids grow up and growing up to hate
Hispanics and other minorities is damaging to our democracy. Just as much
as addiction to dangerous drugs is. If we have Trumps hate, and division for
another 4 years, it could take decades to undo the damage. Kids learn by
example, and when they hear their parents agreeing with Trump's divisionist
trash, they take it to school with them.

It's obvious that Trump doesn't care how his division affects young people,
because it's all about him, and his staying in the white house. He doesn't
have to live with the mess he creates, because he can just return to his
ivory tower and ignore it.

It seems the news media is worried about who is going to win the nomination
for president by the Democrats. Just like they did in 2016. They find fault with
everyone. The trouble is they only talk once about Trump, and then they pile on
the rest. I think they are afraid people will think they are "No Trumper's". Well
perhaps they should be. They need to remind the public about Trumps mistakes
along with those the others have made.

Trump hasn't given minorities any respect. From the time he first worked for his
father in the real   estate buisness. He has faught court suits time and time again
for not following the rules. He treats women like second class citizens. Any person
without his money would have been in jail for things people have accused him of.
So for every thing the news finds fault with others, they could find many things
about Trump to remind the public of.

Perhaps his followers want him to turn government upside down and shake
it. There are manythings Trump could do to make government better, but
he doesn't have the time, because he only wants to work about 6 hours a
day and four days a week, and much of the time is spent complaining and
watching TV. He doesn't care that being president is a 24/7
job. When he ran for the job, he said he wouldn't leave
the white house, just another lie as he has spent a third
of his time playing golf and attending parties since in office.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 15, 2020, 12:40:05 pm

261 days to go. Will Trump accept defeat, or will he claim the
election had to be rigged for him to lose? Then try to have it
declared invalid by the supreme court? If this was to happen,
would the public stand for it? Hopefully this doesn't happen,
because it could lead to riots, and loss of life.

Trump needs to lose so bad even the corrupted members
of the GOP won't try to reverse it. People might think this
could not happen, but in authoritarian countries like Russia
it does. Trump attacked the popular vote in 2016 because it
showed he lost by almost 3 million votes. So he tried to prove
it was due to fraudulent voting by illegal immigrants. Something
Trump was never able to prove.

Attorney general Barr feels a president should have all but
complete power over the government. He feels the only thing
 president should have to answer to is the voter, or  impeachment.
This way of thinking should get Barr impeached himself.
Because it doesn't follow the constitution or the rule of
law. Now if the country was in a major war, or having a real 
national emergency. Then a president would need authoritarian
power temporarily , because congress is too slow to  respond to
such emergencies. We are not fighting a major war, or facing an
emergency. So a good president would not do as Trump has.

Trump is the first president in modern history who has attempted
authoritarian rule. He would not  have any chance to do this,
except for the GOP, which he has corrupted since being in office.

Trump has convinced his followers we must greatly limit immigration.
We must ask then, who will harvest food crops? Every year many many
people cross our boarder with Mexico to work in fields. This is stoop
labor for the most part, and most American citizens won't do this kind
of work. Those coming from Mexico don't stay. They are here for the
harvest to make money, to take home to their families. They have no
interest in moving to the United States.

I wonder how many of Trump's followers would be willing to do this
kind of work. To spend hours in fields sweating under a hot sun.
Most of us never think about how food ends up in the supermarket.
Vegetables, fruit, and rows of canned goods we depend on to eat.
Without people to harvest it, those shelves of food will become
empty. Where will people find their food to eat in our cities.
The worst part is, once this breaks down it will take a lot of
time to restore. While desperate people go hungry. I can
pretty  much guarantee Trump and his rich cronies won't
starve, and won't care if others do. Just as they don't care
about the sick or the poor.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 16, 2020, 01:03:00 pm

260 more days till the people of the United States decide if they want Trump
to continue as president. A man who is a gift from GOD for some, and a
autocrat by his actions. While it is true many people live fairly well under
autocracies. Unless you have the money to bribe officials in such a system
you most certainly will not. Also if you don't agree with the leaders of a
country under such control,  you have no chance, short of a revolution to
change it. Something I think we all should remember.

Yes the United States is governed as a republic not a democracy. But
the body that makes the rules and laws is elected democratically. If we
allow a president to rule alone. We no longer have a republic as setup
by the constitution. It becomes a Monarchy where we no longer have
a president, but a King who can do anything to anyone without control.

I don't think Trump started out wanting total control, but those in the
far right have convince Trump he must listen to them to stay in office.
The Far Right have been working for decades to gain power over the
Democrats. Because they hate homosexuality, people of color, especially
non white immigrants who have different religious beliefs. such as Jews
and Moslem's. They have taken over the conservative wing of the GOP
as well. This movement attempted to  do this a hundred years ago, but
failed. Now they  apparently feel it's their last chance to save White
America from those who wish to change it, even if they have to change
the government to do it.

The support of Trump has unfortunately become a cult. As with
most cults, it's very hard to convince the cult leaders followers
that the leader is taking advantage of them. So we can expect
Trumps base of support will try their best to keep him in November.
Trump will use all the power he has to stay in office, even to lie
and cheat.  Only the hard work by Democrats can defeat Trump,
and his  supporters.

As Americans we must listen to the facts, no matter who they may
show to be bad or corrupt. If we don't we will lose the rights under
our constitution. Because the corrupt will always lie and cheat to
get what they want. No matter who it hurts.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 17, 2020, 12:51:51 pm

259 and counting down. The Nevada caucus is this Saturday.
We will find out how well this one goes after Iowa. Personally
I think they should go with a secret ballot primary. Because
the way it is people have to  publicly show their preference.
Which in some cases cost friends, and respect. Also it takes
lot of time, and people have to show up at a certain time.

They are mixing early voting with a caucus too. This may  cause
confusion. Already some are complaining that they  haven't enough
instruction to properly run the caucus this Saturday.

The greater number of minorities in Nevada may change who comes
out in the lead this time. The first two states have  much greater
white population. So this caucus will show which candidates have
the best minority support.

Over 1000 people who have worked in and for the Department of Justice
have signed a open letter telling Attorney General Barr he must resign.
Because his actions imply he isn't following the rule of law, but the rule
of Trump. Also this diminishes the respect for law and order. When people
see the apparent disregard for the rule of law by the Justice department,
just for the benefit of president Trump and his friends. Others may demand
the same treatment. Claiming whats fair for the presidents friends should
be fair for them as well.

Ever since Barr became the attorney general he has worked for the benefit 
of the president, and not for the people and rule of law. His apparent ideas
about that the president should be protected at all costs, seem to be the
reason he is working to help Trump and friends. When this man was being
confirmed by the senate, he was showing he may work for the president.
Yet the GOP felt they must submit to Trumps demand, and approved him.

Trump apparently expects AG Barr to discredit the Mueller report. A report
that Russia was involved with Trumps election in2016. Something Trump has
wanted to deny since his election. Also it gave evidence that of Trumps
corruption. This report alone should  have caused Trump to be impeached.
Ever since this report came out Trump has worked to cover up anything he
thinks might show his guilt.

People can point to Trump and complain that he is being treated very bad
by the news media and the Democrats. If all their claims of his guilt are
wrong. All Trump need to do is release the information to shows his
innocence. Anyone who was charged with a crime and had the evidence
to  prove he or she didn't do it, would want it released. Yet Trump just
wants people to believe he is innocent because he says so. I can guarantee
if this could be used as a defense in courts of law, the prisons would be
empty. Because all criminals claim they are innocent.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 19, 2020, 01:06:45 pm
257 days, and how many friends convicted of crimes
will Trump turn loose on society. Trump is using the
presidential pardon to release people he likes. Not
because they were put in prison improperly. There
are over 13,000 convicts up for pardons, but Trump
has no interest in giving them a presidential pardon. So
to the supporters of Trump, you can see what he thinks
of the average American. In his mind they are losers, 
and once he is re elected he is going to try for a third
term. So he will continue with his rally's, because it's
the only way to keep the cult of Trump strong. He knows
people have a short attention span. So they must be fed
with his lies constantly.

Trump apparently chose some of these people
because  of large donations to his campaign
by their friends and families. Basically more of
Trump's pay for loyalty and money. Trump feels
people will do anything for a dollar. So when he
runs up against someone that he can't buy, He
is at a loss for what to do. So he just tries to
bully them.

Trump feels he can beat Senator Sanders with ease. So
he made a  speech saying how terrible the Democrats are
treating him. Because he is afraid a moderate might get
the nomination.

Trump and the GOP feel they can use the tired old phrase
that socialism will wreck the economy. So you better not
vote for the Democrats, a socialist party, they will claim.
What they don't talk about is all the money and tax
breaks they give to the rich. Just socialism under a
different name. It wouldn't be so bad if the rich would
use those saving for the benefit of the  country instead
of themselves.

In spite of the far right, and the wishes of the GOP, the
country is changing. The younger generation is wanting
a more socialist society, and less desire for capitalism.

Over they years the rich has sent tens of thousand into war
to protect their money and way of life. They will always fight
to maintain their money and power over the rest of us. They
use peoples greed to stay in control. Just as Trump does. I
think Trump is showing the GOP and rich how far they can
go. If we aren't careful the country could shift into a authoritarian
nation, where only the rich will have rights if any at all.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 20, 2020, 12:55:47 pm

256 days and Trump continues trying to run the justice system in our country.
Not for the average man or woman, but to keep the rich who are guilty of white
collar crimes out of jail. Especially if they are loyal to him.

Trump and Moscow Mitch continue working to pack the federal court system with
conservative judges. Many who will do nothing to protect the rights of the LGBTQ,
women, and minorities. So these people better wake up and plan to vote to get
rid of corruption in the GOP. Even Democrats have bad people, so each time we
vote, we must work to put good people in office.

The Democratic debate last night was contentious. Everyone was shooting barbs at
the other candidates. Many of the shots were at Bloomberg, who did a poor job
defending himself. He mostly attacked Sanders for his socialist policies. Senator
Warren did very well when she asked Bloomberg questions he didn't want to
answer. So I think she could do well in a debate with Trump. The news media
gave Warren the win, and Sanders did himself no harm. VP Biden did well, one
of his best debates yet. All but Bloomberg likely helped gain support for their
nomination at the convention this summer.

At this time Senator Sanders is leading the pack in the polls for the nomination.
Even beating Trump in a nation wide poll. But unfortunately the nominee has to win
a majority of electoral votes to be elected president. It's time we put the electoral
system in the dustbin of history, and elect presidents with a popular vote. Because
Trump could squeak out a electoral victory while loosing the popular vote by nearly
ten million votes. Obviously he and the GOP want to keep it.

Personally I am a fan of Senator Warren, but to defeat Trump we will need every
advantage. Unfortunately many voters aren't ready to have a woman in the white
house. So we likely need a moderate and a man to give the Democrats the best
chance. Senator Sanders may get the nomination, but Trump will try to scare
the voters away from him, using socialistic conspiracies.

Trump and the GOP claim Sanders Medicare for all will bankrupt the country. Well
one of the best economies in the world, "Denmark" has a national health care system.
So that argument is wrong. After all a single payer system would save billions in costs
for the health care system. Also there would be payroll tax increases, taxes that would
be somewhat less than what people pay in premiums and co pays now. People may like
their health plans, but they should understand, these plans can change at a moments
notice. Changes that could cut coverage, and or increase in costs to them. Government
coverage can't change that way. Also drug prices could be lowers by as much as 50%
due to mandated price negotiation. Right now the VA gets drugs 40% cheaper this way.

People should remember, if we don't flip the senate in November. Moscow Mitch will
continue to block all attempts to pass laws the people of this country want, and need.
Even with a Democrat in the white house.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 21, 2020, 12:43:03 pm

255 days with no real leader for the Democratic nomination. Senator Sanders seems to be the
odds on favorite at this time. Last time those who wanted Sanders to win the nomination felt
cheated by the party. It's possible this helped Trump win, if they decided to not vote because
of his loss. If Sanders loses again,hopefully his followers won't stay home, helping Trump win
by default.

Voters shouldn't be afraid of the policies of Senator Sanders. It will take 60 votes in the Senate
to pass anything coming from the house. There is hope the Senate will flip to the Democrats, but
it's very unlikely they would win enough seats to get 60 votes. Sanders could use the power of the
presidency to make some changes as Trump has, but his health care plans will require approval by
both houses.

Trump has put a man at the head of the intelligence agencies who has no experience at all for the
job. He is just a Trump loyalist. Trump fired  the old one because he failed to tell Trump what he
wanted to  hear. Also he made Trump mad, because he told congress the facts Trump wanted to
hide.

This type of response is typical of dictators. Like Trump they want to cover up anything that
might  show  their incompetence. Also this man could work to help Trump cover up activities
by other governments to help Trump win re election.  Something Trump has tried to deny over
the last 3 years.  Even though the Mueller report proved otherwise, Trump's fixer attorney
general lied trying to mislead the public. So Trump could claim Russia wasn't involved.

Trump continues to tell his supporters not to believe anything anyone tells them
other than himself. It really amazes me how he leads his followers like a
flock of sheep. Seems they refuse to listen to any facts at all. Just what
he calls alternative facts which are  nothing but lies.

I know some of his followers feel he is doing a good job, apparently due to the conservative
far right press. Who in most cases pander to Trump for the money it will make them.  It is
sad how the almighty dollar causes them to sell out our country. With Trump it's money
and nothing but money. If he was the great genius he claims to be he would be the
richest man in the country. As is he isn't even a true billionaire. Because he is too
lazy to do a good job.

How people can believe lie after lie. There isn't any way the Democrats could cover up
everything Trump wants to call lies and attacks by the deep state. In fact the so called
deep state belongs to Trump, and the GOP, not the Democrats. Because Trump has
fired most of those in what he called the deep state, because they wouldn't swear
total loyalty to him. Even though they were trying to do their job.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 22, 2020, 12:54:37 pm

 254 more days of Trumps lies. He has no policy for the country. I am sure people
would  point to his wall. A wall a 100 dollar saw will cut a hole in. He isn't removing
immigrants from our country any faster than Obama did. Perhaps his followers are
afraid people of color will take over the country? Well I have news for them, white
control of the country is ending in spite of the far right, the GOP, Trump and other
racist people, and they should accept it, and work to improve life for all people
in our country.

Without immigration the United States would not exist, ever since the 15th
century people have been moving to the America's from all parts of the world.
The only indigenous people are the Indian Tribes, we immigrants stole the land
from them. So now Trumps followers are like the Indians I guess. Well just like
the Indians, they will lose. Only this time it will be for the good of the country. 
Because we need immigrants to fill jobs, feed our population, pay taxes. Short
sighted people fear them, But Trump loves immigrants, go to any of his resorts,
and you will see foreign workers by the score. People he can push around and
pay them less than Americans.

People shouldn't think the economy is tied to Trump. It isn't, because he has done
little, but lie about all he is doing. His tariffs has cost thousands of jobs, and put
many farmers out of business.  His big tax cut is adding Trillions of dollars to our
national debt. I remember Trump during his campaign telling people that he would
work to cut the national debt. So what's his excuse? It's certainly not the fault of the
Democrats. But to hear him, it's always someone else's fault.

The Nevada Caucus is happening today. Tomorrow I will try to give the results.  That is if
the counting goes as it should. Already 75,000 people have voted early, so the debate
wouldn't have changed that. It will be interesting to see who comes out on top. You
would think after hearing the news media that the Democrats can't decide who they
 want to run. Well for Pete's sake the primaries have just started. Lets see what
happens after super Tuesday.

There are reports foreign countries are trying to mess with our presidential election. Even
trying to get Senator Sanders nominated by the Democrats. Because they think he has
little or no chance to win against Trump.  All the more reason Democrats need to come
out in record numbers this November. To vote to get rid of Trump and those GOP Senators
and congressmen  who haven't followed the constitution, and lied when they took their oath
of office. If we  don't corruption will not only continue, it will get worse, because Trump is
out to wreck the government, to benefit himself, and his rich friends. I fear those followers
of Trump who aren't rich will rule the day they ever heard the name Trump if he wins.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 23, 2020, 12:57:37 pm

253 days till the voters have a chance to take America back. Over
the past half century the rich have been telling us how bad socialism
really is. Sending our young people off to war, to protect the super
rich from countries that don't let the rich run their lives. Ever notice
their kids rarely fight in those wars?

There isn't anything wrong with having money. It's the love of money
that corrupts the rich. The love of a life style only millions will buy.

They want to convince us all that being rich is the American dream. This
is wrong. The American dream is having a comfortable life for your family.
Where you don't have to beg and choose between home, food, and your
health. A hundred years ago few pharmacists would dream of not helping
the sick. They chose their plkrofession to help people, not to become very
rich. Unlike today people seem to feel it's all about getting rich, not to
have a life with a comfortable home and family. This form of greed is
tearing  our society apart. Where few have so much money they only
live to have more, and they don't care who they hurt to get it. Sadly
even to ignore wife and kids while caught up with their first love.
Making all the money they can. This my friends is Trump in a
nutshell. Full of nothing but greed, and dragging our country
down with him.

Oh the GOP and his supporters want to think otherwise, but
Trump uses the one skill he has. Where he can convince Millions
he is a financial genius.  In reality he is nothing but a money
grubbing con artist who works to cover up his crimes with
his lies. Sadly he corrupts everyone who tries to work for
him. Telling them they must be loyal and lie if he tells them
to, and threatens them if they don't.

More proof of this is how his National security advicer was on
fox telling lies to please Trump. Saying there isn't evidence
the Russian's aren't trying to help Trump. Something Trump
wants people to believe. In fact Russia is even trying to help
Sanders because they feel he is a man Trump can easily defeat .
These dictatorial societies want Trump because they can
manipulate him.

The Nevada caucus gave Senator Sanders a victory. Leading
others by several percentage points. Mayor Pete was a distant
second. This showed Sanders  has support from minorities.
Greater support than most of those in the news media thought
he had. Leaving Biden,  and Warren with less than half the
votes he got. The next  primary in South Carolina may lead
Sanders into super Tuesday with a big lead or perhaps not.
Some are saying South Carolina won't support Sanders,
because of his socialism. We can be sure the GOP and
Trump will cast  Sanders as a danger to the countries
economy and a  communist. The trouble with this plan
is the younger generation isn't that worried  about
socialism like  people used to be, they just want to
vote Trump  out, out, out.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 24, 2020, 01:10:29 pm

252 days to go and the Democratic leadership is afraid a Sanders nomination
will cost them seats in the house, and no gains in the senate. The News Media
seems to have the same opinion. Well in 2016 the GOP sure didn't like Trump
until he was nominated, and the media were expecting him to lose almost on
a daily basis. So it's all speculation. The news media want to keep steering the
pot, so people will listen, and improve their ratings. 

Once the results of Super Tuesday are out, then we will have a better idea of who
has a good chance for the nomination. I do wish Sanders was a bit more moderate
with his speeches. The other day he mentioned how Cuba's Castro improved the
education in his country. Though true, it makes people nervous when a candidate
brags about a communist leader. Especially one who imprisoned anyone who spoke
out against him.

Communism and Socialism are like night and day, but a lot of people feel socialism
will drag our economy down. Make us all equally poor so to speak. Socialism properly
used gives everyone an equal start in life. Capitalism is only controlled, not destroyed.
We can see how people take advantage if there isn't any controls. When monopoly laws
were put in place, the rich complained, saying we make all the jobs. They didn't want
to talk about company towns, where workers were cheated, and held back to increase
profits for the owners. This is how Unions protect workers. Big business doesn't like
Unions because they have to treat those they hire fairly. Costing them some of their
profits.

Socialism should be for all, not just for big business and the super rich. Big business lobby's
Senators, and congress to give them protection, subsidies, and tax breaks. They spend
millions to help their friends in both houses and even the white house stay in office.
It all boils down to socialism for those who can buy it. For everyone else it's bad for
the economy, or the country.

The GOP claim they are working to create jobs, but have no interest in how workers are
paid or treated. Like the minimum wage? The GOP would get rid of it if they could get by
with it. Like Social Security? The GOP would get rid of it if they could. The same with
Medicare, and  Medicate. Those in the insurance industry would be happy to take them
over. To make more billions while people who haven't the means suffer and die.

Socialism like our Monopoly laws would put controls on big business and the richest
Americans. Not to make people poor, but to enrich us all. No one needs billions. Not
even a family. It's an incredible amount of money that people end up using to help
friends gain power. Few people have the knowledge to use this kind of money, except
trying to make more with it. It's been proven the more you have the more you want.
Like a drug addiction people will do anything to get more. Even if it hurts others.

Capitalism, and Materialism can coexist with Socialism. It just puts limits on them. Yes
some think there shouldn't be any limits on money you can make or property you can
own, but without limits people will take advantage of those who haven't the means to
fight back. That is why prices are so high now, people wanting riches they don't deserve.
These very people will fight hard to  keep their rights to use people with their millions.

We as  voters can put an end to corporations ability to steal from the needy, and the
disadvantaged. You can be sure they will complain, and threaten us with claims it
will hurt us all to make them pay their share. Other countries have stood up to  these
greedy people, and put limits on them. Yet the world didn't end, and they didn't leave,
because even with the limits they still make a good profit.

This is why we must vote for change, to put an end to unfettered greed. Or it will
just get worse. Trump could be a fair president if he stopped listening to the  far
right, and the leadership of the GOP. All, who feel only the richest people  should
make the laws, and run the country. Because the rest  of us are too stupid to do it.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 26, 2020, 12:37:44 pm
251 days left.
There wasn't any clear winner in the debate last night. Mostly just a lot of
cat fighting by the candidates. They know if they don't do well in South
Carolina, and on super Tuesday, they might as well give it up.  Senator
Sanders took a lot of the heat since he has won the first three state
elections. Senator Warren went after Bloomberg.  Biden did well enough,
he shouldn't have hurt his chances in South Carolina.  The others
pretty much repeated the views from the last debate.  So time will
tell if the debate helped or hurt any of them.

Trump was in India being cozy to their leader. A man who is making
life miserable for Moslem's. Basically telling the police to allow groups
to attack Moslem's, burn homes, businesses, and even their religious
buildings. This is typical of Trump. Instead of supporting human rights,
he sucks up to leaders that treat their people like dirt. Even to brag on
them. It's likely Trump used his visit to promote business for himself
as well. Something he has been doing around the world.

Trump wants to leave Afghanistan. While it is true we need to leave. But
i really don't think Trump has any interest in protecting the women there.
In the past women there are treated like property, virtual slaves to men.
If we leave without any agreement for change, this treatment will start
again. Call it religion, but I am sure it's just men using it as an excuse
to use and abuse them. A culture unchanged for centuries. I think we
should invite those women here, who wish to escape this act of slavery.

Well we could pay dearly because of Trumps hate for Obama. In
2018 he basically ended a program started by Obama to deal with
a pandemic if and when one hit the United States and the world. 
Trump fired everyone involved, because he felt anything Obama
started had to be destroyed. I suppose because Obama was a black
man, and Trump has no respect for people of color.

Now Trump is trying to claim this virus has no chance of spreading
here, even to say there is a vaccine in work. Yes there is experimental
work for one, so Trump is trying to claim there will be one very soon. 
Experts are say it will likely take a year or more to develop a vaccine,
but Trump never accepts scientific truths unless he agrees with it.
I fear Trump wants to keep the truth from the American public,
because he fears it will cause a big slow down in the economy.
Something that would hurt his chances for re election. 

Already  the stock market is falling due to it's effects  in China
and around the world. Businesses can't stay  open if their
suppliers fail to  deliver, and this virus is  slowing production
in China.  A country  that provides medicine, and many  other
products businesses sell  here in the United States.  If it
continues to spread  the world economy could  suffer
as well. 

Politicians, be they Democrats or Republican, best wake up, this virus
is starting to scare people here, and if they don't  show some comfort
for the  people, they will feel it in November. Trump can claim everything
will be fine, but it's a big risk, because if this decease starts to spread
throughout the United States, Trump may pay dearly. I am sure
he will try to blame others, but historically people look to a
president in a crisis. I am not sure he can save himself with lies,
but I am sure he will try.

Will Trumps supporters stay if they see their king put himself
above the public health? Only time will tell. Wither they want
to believe it or not, he will.

Many people want to keep their insurance over Medicare. Well I
have been on Medicare for years, and I wouldn't  trade it for any
insurance I ever had. You only have to show your card, and as long
as the doctor or hospital accepts it, your in. Nothing else  to worry
about.  The only thing I don't like is it only covers 80% so I have
to buy a supplemental policy, but as long as you do that it's good
coverage over all.

s link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 27, 2020, 12:31:56 pm
250 and counting days down to the election.

As I figured, Trump claimed the virus is under control here in the United States.
Claiming only 15 are being held in quarantine, soon to be zero, when in reality there
are 60. Oh I  guess he forgot about  the man who came down with it in California.
A man who hasn't  been out of the country.  So there is a rush to find out where
he might have gotten it,  and to track down those he came in contact with.

Yes a president doesn't want to cause a panic, but lies only create more problems
later, when the public feels they can't depend on the president. "Is he telling the
truth or not". He did appoint his VP to deal with controlling the virus. A man
who has experience in management, but has a terrible record in Indiana where
he did a poor job in decease control. It appeared Trump picked his VP on the
spur of the moment instead of having a meeting to decide the best choice
for the job.

This virus is going to spread, no matter if Trump wants it or not. This is one
crisis he can't lie his way out of. I fear many Americans will pay for Trump's
inept ability to do the job of president. Hundreds of government jobs are yet
to be filled by Trump. Many of them will likely be needed to control the spread of
this disease. Trump has wasted time, he should have been looking for good people
to fill them. Trouble is he never hires good people, just rich friends who he wants
to impress by giving them a high paid government job.

I think Trump is in a panic because of the stock market decline of over 2000 points
in 2 days, and today it is down over 500 more points so far. So we can expect Trump
to come up with more ridiculous excuses like the one he made last night. That  the
Democratic debate caused it. After all the most of the drop was before the debate.

A poll showed Joe Biden being strong in South Carolina. Double digits over Senator
Sanders. The others are even 10 points lower. So it will be interesting to see who
turns out to win. There are reports the GOP is trying to get Republican voters to
vote for Sanders in the primary, because they think Trump can win with him on
the ticket.  Just shows how dirty the GOP is willing to play.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
They are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 28, 2020, 01:45:57 pm

249 days left for Trump if his administration  fails
to control this virus from China.

Trump is telling government officials to not talk about this virus.
As expected he is trying to blame the Democrats and the News
media for the stock market panic. Until The Trump administration
shows the public that it has a handle on this virus, concern will
continue to grow across the nation. This business of Trump wanting
to hide the facts will cause him nothing but trouble. Unlike almost
anything else this virus will affect everyone and even jobs unless
Trump shows a real effort to contain it. Even then that may not be
enough.

Trump can go to his rally's and tell them there isn't anything to worry about.
Tell them it's a media hoax, but when people start getting sick, all his lies
will only  make it worse for him. Also if millions get sick the economy will
end up with a depression for sure.

Already there are predictions of empty store shelves at Walmart, and other
big box stores. Most people don't realize how many products come from
the far east and China.

Trump and the GOP best get their act together, and get serious about getting
the country ready to deal with the worse case. Hospitals and doctors need
test kits,  protective masks and clothing across the country. Stalling to see
how bad it's getting could kil  thousands, if not tens of thousands. Perhaps many
more, because influenza a mild form of this disease kills tens of thousands each
year, even with a  vaccine.

s link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 29, 2020, 12:26:31 pm
248 days left with a president who is calling the China virus a
hoax. Already with people getting sick who have no obvious
connection to other countries. Other than living close to a
military base with quarantined people who came from the
far east.

A whistle blower reported health care workers were sent
to this base without proper training or equipment, so
they could offer care safely.  This would be the responsibility
of the Trump administration, not local government, or the
Democrats, or the news media as Trump wants people to
believe.

Other countries are testing thousands, while in this country
its less than one thousand. In Florida a test was offers at a
cost of $3000.00. This is a ridiculous price. I think this is
why so few test have been done here. Trump and the GOP
are likely waiting for a business or businesses to develop
tests to make big profits on them. These tests should be
free. Thefaster we test, the better we can control this
virus if at all.  People are not going to get tests they
cannot afford.

To hear Trump at his rally last night, this virus is just another
attack against him by the Democrats, the so called deep state,
and the News media. Even with almost 3000 dead around
the world, the conservative media  is making the same claim.
Apparently to protect Trump  and not  the people. Even
telling Trump supporters that the Democrats  are hoping
it will get worse. This disgusting claim shows  just how far
the far right will go to protect Trump their King.

I am sure Trump and the GOP will want to forget about
these claims when the virus starts to spread across the
country. Then they will make claims of how hard they
are working to protect the people. It will be interesting
to see who Trump blames then, because nothing is ever
his fault, or responsibility.

Trump is pushing for another tax cut, even with the national
debt climbing faster than ever before. If Trump wins and the
GOP take control of congress, they will cut social security, medicare,
and medicaid. Because the GOP never wants to  raise taxes, even
to protect the poor, the sick, or the elderly. They want them to beg
charities for help. Or they can just die.

The GOP and Trump want to say Socialism is bad. So why do we
have public supported Fire departments? Why do we have public
supported Police departments? Or publicly supported Schools?
All of this is socialism in it's raw form. People who want the rich
to pay their fair share has nothing to do with setting up a  socialist
state. When people work together it makes it possible tor all
people to have a better and safer life. Not just for the  rich, who
in most   cases used society, and it's publicly supported
infrastructure, to gain their wealth.

So when a GOP politician tells you social programs are bad for the
country. Ask him or her why they use it to help the rich, when it's
so bad for everyone else. If they say the rich make jobs. Then ask
why do we need unions if the rich work for the good of the country,
or do they work for their own good instead. Because in most cases
workers have to fight to be treated fair. 

Today it's a presidential primary in South Carolina. Joe Biden is
expected to do well. 41% over Senator Sanders at 25%. The others
following several points behind. I will post some of the results
tomorrow. It will be interesting to  see how it comes out.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 01, 2020, 12:27:37 pm

247  The election. is getting closer all the time, and I think this China virus could
be Trumps demise.

Trump had one of his rare press conferences yesterday. When asked about his
claim the virus is a hoax, he tried to say the hoax was how the news, and
Democrats were talking about it, not the virus. Even though at his rally it sure
sounded like it was about the virus.   When asked, Trump's secretary of state
wouldn't deny Trumps hoax claim. He just danced around the issue.

Trump wants to play down the danger this virus puts on the people, Especially
because it's driving the stock market down. I really doubt the business community
is going to believe Trump's lies, no matter how many times he tells them. Not counting
those around the world who know  the facts. Also world trade is quickly slowing as air
travel slows, along with shipping concerns. Even if China's production returns, it will
take time before public confidence returns. Besides this virus is spreading around
the world. It's slowing in China, but mostly due to draconian measures by their
government that is  keeping those affected under quarantine. 

Trumps older son Don Jr claimed the Democrats want millions of people to die, just
so his father will be removed. This is a disgusting claim. I think Trump's son is trying
to be like his father, but doesn't really know how. This isn't the first time he has made
remarks that do little to help his father, president Trump.

Well as predicted Joe Biden won handily in South Carolina yesterday. Leaving Senator
Sanders a distant second. The rest fell back to low teens, and single digits. Sanders is
claiming a big win on super Tuesday. So time will tell. Though this  does give Biden
a surge, it won't change all those early votes that have been made.

Senator Sanders is claiming the corporate wing  of the Democratic party  is against him. I
really don't doubt this. Back when Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, he had to get
 approval from a group of rich Democratic supporters to get nominated. This was in the
news only  once. So I kind of think they really didn't want  the public to know. I am
sure the richest Americans don't want anyone doing things that will hurt their profits.
Be they Republican, Independents, or Democrat.

The rich, and especially the super rich will work to  keep control of this country. One of
the few bastions around the world where the rich can protect their wealth.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 02, 2020, 12:49:48 pm

246 days till the election. Joe Biden is working hard to gain delegates. He knows
Senator Sanders is likely to pick up a lot of them on super Tuesday. So Biden is
trying to make it a race between him and Sanders. Reports are that Mayor Pete
may endorse Biden. This could be a big help to Biden.

Bloomberg is claiming he will win in some of the primaries tomorrow, But time will
tell. He hasn't done very well in the two debates he has been in, and this hasn't
helped him at all.

The rest of the candidates are under a lot of pressure, hoping to get at least 15%,
to get any delegates at all. This is what Biden needs in California or Sanders will pull
so far ahead, he will be hard if not impossible to catch.

President Trump's deal in Afghanistan may be falling apart. Reports are the signers
have backed out of the deal. I am sure Trump will put a good spin on it, but lies
won't close the deal. It's likely his bragging about the signing caused them to
back out.

Trump was asked if he planned to  continue his rally's with the China Virus threat. He
basically said yes he would, because the Democrats are still having them, and it's a
political need to have them. Personally I think the only way he would stop, would
be if a lot of his supporters got sick, causing a big drop in attendance.

Trump sent the VP out to be on the Sunday news shows. So he could tell the public
how hard his administration is working to control the virus. Even though Trump hasn't
shown any concern untill it started showing up here in the U S. He was told about it
in January, so he should have to answer why he waited so long to start preperation.
By now there should be nation wide training for health care workers. Also if they had
started in January there would have been time to get hospitals up and ready. Testing
kits in the thousands, instead of only a few. Also  working to prepare schools, and
businesses who have large numbers of employees  how to operate remotely. It boils
down Trump likely didn't want to believe this  virus would even be a concern. This
has been typical of Trump ever since taking office. His lack of concern for anything,
but himself has left our country at risk. Even the economy if this virus spreads accross
the nation.

It seems Trump is betting on this virus slowing by spring, as most influenza
types of viruses do. Hoping it won't start up much till after his election. If this
virus  is anything like the 1918 pandemic it will be much worse next fall and
winter. I am sure if it does slow, Trump won't want to spend much on it. His
request for funding should be 15 Billion instead of the 2 1/2 billion he
asked for a couple weeks ago. As is if it does get worse next year it will
be playing catch up all over again. Trump claims a vaccine will be ready
soon, but experts say it will be at least a year.

Trump is claiming the News media and Democrats are trying to cause
a panic. Well this is just Trump looking for any reason to  run them
down. Because if the people aren't informed they won't know the
basics of protecting themselves and their families. This is the big
reason it grew so large in China. The government wanted to cover
it up, so people didn't have a chance to use proper caution.

This business of covering up, is how most dictators operate. They
say whatever it takes to please those who support them, and use
lies to  cover mistakes. Trump spends a lot of time talking to  dicators.
He claims it's for the good of the country, but it's likely he is looking
to learn their ways they run, and  control their governments. I am
sure Russia's Putin has told Trump a lot of what he should and
shouldn't do.  I imagine China's leader has as well.  Because all
these leaders would like to see Trump in power, because he is
so easily manipulated compared to any other president.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 04, 2020, 12:42:23 pm

244 days to go, and suddenly the Biden campaign has been turned
around. From dying on the vine to full bloom. After winning 9 states
on super Tuesday, with a lead in delegates, and with Bloomberg signing
out and throwing his support to Biden. Senator Sanders is going to
have a hard time getting the nomination in July. I imagine he will work
hard to keep Biden from getting enough delegate to get the nomination
without a fight at the convention.

I think it would benefit the Democrats and the country, if all the candidates 
started working to defeat Trump, and the GOP, instead of fighting to win
the nomination. I personally like Senator Warren and Sanders, but to
defeat Trump we need someone like Biden who voters won't be afraid of.

Many people feel the policies of Warren and Sanders is a step toward
socialism. Something Trump and the GOP would exploit against Warren
or Sanders as candidates. The GOP have always pointed to the Democrats
as a Tax and spend party. Even though the GOP who used to care about
fiscal responsibility. Is letting Trump drive the deficit higher, by Trillions
of dollars with his irresponsible tax cuts, and spending.

The GOP have wanted to get rid of all social programs since the days
of FDR in the 1930's. All that has kept them from it is their fear it would
cause the destruction of their party.  Now with the big deficits they are
pushing again to cut social security, Medicare, and other social programs
created over the years. This is why they want to destroy Obama care (ACA).
They will do all they can to reduce government. Because they claim big
government is a danger to the country. 

This claim is rather hollow now that they are allowing Trump to create
big deficits. Not only that Trump is calling for another tax cut, even
though the last one did little to help the economy. His predictions of
4% or better turned out to be 2% and falling, and this virus will likely
drive it down even more.  With Trump it's all about getting re elected
and nothing else. Think not? Just look at all his rally's. The man started
running for re election even before he took office.

Now that Bloomberg has decided to not run for the office of president, we
can hope he will use his vast wealth to defeat Trump and many of those
GOP senators running for re election. In 2018 he did help many of those
Democrats running for Congress in state elections as well as federal. He
claims he will again, so time will tell.


Well the virus Trump calls a hoax has killed 9 people in Washington State.
The number of people infected is nearing 200 across the nation. World wide
it's pushing 90,000 with 3100 and nor dead. Slowly the Trump administration
is responding with more test kits. Tests that should be paid for by the government
since they are for the good of the nation. Not some big money maker for Trump
and his cronies.

Reports from China claim the virus infection rate has slowed greatly there. Hopefully
this is true. Even though Trump should have went after this virus with a passion in
January. It appears his administration is taking it seriously at last. We can only
wonder how many people will die because of his delay to take action.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 05, 2020, 12:46:04 pm

243 days left, and now we are apparently down to two
candidates. Senator Warren has decided to throw in the
towel after her poor showing in her own state of Massachusetts.
So who will she throw her support to? Sanders said in the
past a woman can't win against Trump. Biden hasn't supported
her move to Medicare for all. So which will she choose?  She
will likely want to choose the one who will agree to most of
her policies. So time will tell. No matter who she chooses
both Biden and Sanders will get about have of her supporters.
Which will probably help Biden more.

The primaries show there is a lot of interest in who will win in
November. Nearly all primaries had a similar turn out as in
2008. When large numbers of African Americans came out
to vote. If this happens in November, Trump stands a good
chance of losing. Because most African Americans don't
want to see Trump, a man who hates Obama re elected.

No matter who gets the Democratic nomination, people will
have to come out in large numbers, because without a decisive
vote against Trump, he will try to have the election over turned.
Claiming everything from illegal voting to a rigged election.

Trump is doing all he can to make the China Virus look like the
flu or just a cold. Where most people have little danger from it.
Even to say they could go to work as they would with a simple
cold. Trump is doing all he can to protect the Stock Market
by saying this virus is a lot about nothing. It would be different
if he was just trying to lessen panic, but to hm it's a political
battle he wants to win. No matter who it hurts.

The problem the Trump administration has dealing with his virus is
Trump himself. He just can't stay away from Twitter, or claiming to
know more than the experts about the virus. This keeps those
trying to do the job off balance, because they have to deal with
the president as well, and how it affects the public response to
the virus.

The Democratic leader of the Senate during a speech outside
the Supreme court, gave to Judges a political threat  if they
vote against the will of the people. That it will com back to
hurt  them, and the party they appear to represent.

Of course Trump and the GOP are trying to call  this some
kind of physical threat to the two judges Trump put on the
court. Though he could have chosen his words better. It
shows anytime the Democrats use words similar to those
that Trump or the GOP use. The GOP come back with claims
of how it proves how terrible the Democrats are.

Of course, they want to forget how Trump has bad mouthed
judges since he has been president, and even before

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 06, 2020, 12:59:19 pm
This post is largely about Trump and the corona virus.

242 days, and the Trump administration is still playing for
a coverup. The problem this time it's about the corona virus.
It appears Trump doesn't want large numbers of people tested
for this virus. Because it's the economy he is worried about, not
the American people. They promised there would be a million
test kits ready by tomorrow. Where in fact the number is closer
to 100 thousand instead. Now they are saying there will be
one and a half million by the end of next week. At the rate
they are going it's likely there won't be a half million at
best.

At some point even Trump's supporters are going to be asking for the
facts, and not lies.  Even this years influenza has killed 40,000 people
so far this year, and the Corona virus is up to 20 times as likely to
kill. So in spite of Trump's claim it's nothing to really worry about
it's likely to affect most if not every family in the nation if not the
world. Only time will tell, but hopefully it will disappear as Trump
wants, but wishes by me or our corrupt president won't do any good. 

So far only about 20% of those infected need serious health care.
But even at that there will be thousands who will need hospitalization
to survive, and 10% of those will likely  die.

It's time our president wakes up, and stop trying to lie this virus
away. Otherwise he will be lucky to win even one state  this
fall. 

So what is Trump doing? he is worried about being re elected more
than anything else. I kind of think he put the Vice president in
charge of fighting the Corona virus  so he could  blame him
if this virus really does spread throughout the country. We know
Trump never takes responsibility for anything that goes bad. Just
for things that he feels look good for himself.

Trump should have been preparing the nation for this virus last
December. Even then it would have been a hard job to be
ready for it. Now we have to play catch up while people get
sick and die.  Health care workers, and Nurses are getting
sick because  the Trump administration failed to provide
training and equipment for hospitals and clinics to protect
them.  No, because Trump in his infinite wisdom decided
there wasn't any reason to prepare, because it wouldn't
be a problem. Well no matter what Trump claims , he
isn't a genius. In fact he only knows how to be a
con artist and nothing else. So now there is over 230
people we know to be infected, and 12 dead.  These
numbers will unfortunately grow as tests become 
available for the virus.

The Spanish flu of 1918, and 1919 killed 50 million around
the world.  In the United  States nearly 700,000 died, and
this virus is several  times more dangerous, with even billions
more people to  affect  now in 2020.  There could be over 100
million dead around the world before it's done.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 07, 2020, 01:11:19 pm
More about the Corona Virus and Trump. Because that's about all that's
in the news.

241 days left and the president is at the CDC telling reporters
that he wants to keep the number of infected people from growing.
Even saying I want to keep the cruise ship off California from
unloading it's passengers. Not to protect Americans, but because
once on land their numbers would be added to the national number 
of people  with the Corona Virus. Trump doesn't care about them,
even though they are Americans. It's all about  him, because he
fears  larger numbers will harm his  economy. A economy he feels
will help his re election if it remains strong.

It seems the Trump administration has backed down from this,
because the Vice president stated the ship will be allowed to
dock and unload. Those who have the virus will be quarantined
and sick put in treatment.

This is partly why testing is being delayed, because Trump wants to keep
the numbers of Americans with the virus low as reported. It doesn't
matter if is irresponsible actions cause even more people to get sick,
just as long as those under him do what he wants. He fires anyone
who has the courage to give him advice or tell him he is wrong.

It's sad, but it's likely only if this pandemic effects his supporters will
he change at all. Even those in the GOP continue to ignore the damage
Trumps actions are causing our country. Many of those in the GOP are
in their 60's and 70's. If a congressman or woman brings this virus
into congress, we could lose some of them. The same in the Senate as
well. You can be sure Trump has everyone tested he gets close to.

This virus proves how bad we need a national health care system.
Because people without coverage won't get tested, or go to the
doctor till they feel they are about to die. By then they will have
spread their disease to family and friends.

This applies not only to the corona virus, but any infectious disease will be
spread by the sick. By not providing health care to the poor just increases
costs for us all.

336 people have the virus-nationally  and with 2 dead in Florida the toll
rises to 17 for the country. Of course the virus isn't listening to Trump and
just marches on.

Even though Trump is trying to quell panic, the stock market continues to
fall. Business leaders aren't listening to Trump. They are smart enough to
know a con when they hear it. So they are cutting back for their own
protection, not Trump's. Though the job growth continued in February
it's not looking good now. With dozens of big businesses cutting back and
big events stopped or delayed. Many many jobs will be lost.

A federal judge found that Attorney General Barr apparently misrepresented
the Mueller Report in a way to help President Trump. Barr's  justice department
came back claiming no such thing. This judge however isn't a pushover, so
it's likely Barr and Trump will have a battle on their dirty hands.

Senator Sanders and VP Joe Biden are in six primaries next Tuesday. It seems
Sanders is worried, because he is hitting hard against Biden and his record.
Even to misrepresentsome of it. If Sanders does poorly next Tuesday, will
he give up, or continue. Hoping to win at the convention? It could be a repeat
of 2016 where Sanders fought all the way to the end. It matters not who
ends up with the nomination. They must bring the party together, or
Trump could end up back in the white house.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 08, 2020, 12:50:05 pm

240 Days left, and only two days till the next group of primaries. Trump is out telling
his supporters how bad Senator Sanders is being treated. Now isn't that interesting.
It's likely Trump is afraid Joe Biden will get the nomination. Also he likely feels
Sanders is a marshmallow he can squash in November.

Well I am not so sure Sanders is the push over Trump thinks he is. But we
really need to defeat Trump in November, and I don't really see his revolution
taking off. On Super Tuesday Joe Biden had more of a revolution by far. He
brought out many many more voters than Sanders could show. Sanders did
well in Arizona, and California, but if he isn't able to win the industrial states,
like Michigan, he is a bad risk for November.  Also I am not sure he can bring
people out to put more Democrats in the Senate,  and congress.

 If we don't take back the Senate, little will change, because the GOP won't
do much more than block legislation passed by the Democrats. No matter
wither it's Biden or Sanders in the white house. I think a lot of people like
Sander's policies, but they won't go anywhere without congress, and the
Senate.

The Trump administration continues to claim there are many tests
available for the Corona Virus, but doctors, hospitals, and clinics
can't get them. Or told no, because they aren't eligible to get
them.

The VP, doctors in the CDC and others in government are saying
millions of tests will be available next week. Well  tests in
warehouses don't do us much good. They have  to be made
available to all who need them. I fear  government doctors are
afraid to oppose the Trump  administration  for  fear Trump will
fire them, and  most feel it's better to go  along with  Trump so 
they can continue to help defeat  the virus.

Trump continues trying to say this virus is under control. This is
apparently the reason tests have been slow to be made available.
Because Trump fears when testing becomes readily available,
large numbers of people will show up with the virus. 

Even though the Trump administration is trying to play down this crisis
the media and the internet are telling people about it, and  how best
to protect themselves from it.

During this crisis people need to use care. Wash hands, stay away from large
gatherings of people. Stay home if possible when sick. Masks don't give protection
as dust masks can't filter out the virus. If you are sick, wearing them will help
protect others around you.

Pets won't pass this virus, except if someone with the virus touches them, and
you touch the same spot on their fur. Then you could.

It's likely many people will get this virus, and when a vaccine is
available, those most at risk for it will get vaccinated. Just as
they do for influenza, and pneumonia.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 09, 2020, 12:50:52 pm
239 days to go, and the stock market, Trumps pride and joy, fell 7%
today, and it's only morning. Reports are Trump is going to have a
meeting on how to turn the economy around. Oh yes his precious 
stock market must not continue to fall. The one thing that could
help is Trump being honest about the corona virus, but honesty
is a no no for him. So will he wake up or just keep trying the same
old thing. Lie Mislead, and lie, because that is the first rule for any
con artist.

Trump is claiming a drop in oil prices is the reason for this mornings
drop. Well what do you expect. Several countries are shutting down,
trying to limit the spread of the corona virus. Unlike Trump who is
trying to say the virus is under control. So people and business are
going to use less fuel, and that will drive down prices.

People in the United States want the facts, not a pipe dream from Trump.
A man who wants to blame everyone but himself for anything that happens.
Until he stands up on his hind legs and tell the public what we really
need to do, the economy is going to drop. People are getting scared,
and fear will keep them at home, and not out to buy products businesses
need to sell too stay open. The last job report was great, but it's very likely
to see a big rise in unemployment in a month or two. Because businesses can't
keep or pay employees if they are closed.

A lot  of people around the country are going to  run out of money if they
can't work. It's time Trump and the GOP do as Obama did in 2009. Make
money available for people, so they can pay for child care when and if
schools close. Perhaps help provide places kids and go during the day.
Leaving young children alone just can't be done. So there must be a
way to care for them.

Also people may need aid to get food. Many people in the country don't
have enough  money to cover a missed paycheck. So a lot of people are
going to be hurting, and desperate, if things keep going as they are. We are
fortunate there are several organizations set up to offer food to families in
need. But even they have limits. So the Trump administration should be
working to provide help for this possible eventuality. 

Jo Biden is rising in the polls, in spite of Sanders claims about Biden. He
should be working for the good of the country, he has good policies, but
we need to get rid of Trump. Unless  he can really be sure he has a chance
to win the nomination he should give up and support Biden. Yes I know
people need national health care, and other social programs, but let's
work for that when we are running against a honest person for
president. So if we lose it's not a disaster for the country.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 10, 2020, 01:33:42 pm
The corona virus has about 800 infected here in the U S, and the death toll
is at 28.

238 days left and is Trump infected with the Corona Virus? Turns out Trump
and other GOP leaders were at a conservative action conference where they
likely were infected by a man who was there, and because he donated a lot
of money had access to the top people, including Trump.

When asked, Trump said he didn't need to be tested for the virus. I really
doubt Trump would wait to see if he did catch it. He would want to know
immediately, and if he does have it. It's doubtful we won't know unless
it puts him in the hospital. Several of the GOP members decided to put
them selves in quarantine anyway. As I said before, many of the GOP
members in congress or the senate are over 60, and some 70 and more.
Also they have bad eating and sleeping habits. So we could lose a few
of them before it's over.

Well we best hope Trump doesn't have it, because he isn't quarantined,
and is out to political meetings, and around the white house staff. So
time will tell.

It's another primary day, and with 6 states voting we will soon see how
the candidates end up. Will Sanders win Michigan or not? If he doesn't
will he stop running or do as he did in 2016, where he fought all the
way to the convention? I fear he will, but only time will tell.

Trump is pushing for a payroll tax break. This might sound good, but
if people don't have a job, it won't do much good. I think it's just
something Trump feels will help his  re election. If the Democrats
block it, he will use it as a campaign issue. If they pass it he will
use it claiming how much he cares. People need cash if they
are laid off. They need unemployment pay, so they can buy
food and pay the rent. A tax break is just a political move
by Trump when he should give people real help instead.

No matter what Trump wants, the stock market isn't going to do
well until world commerce improves. That could be months from
now, and it could trigger a recession that could take a few years 
to recover from. 

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 11, 2020, 01:02:50 pm

Yesterdays Democratic primaries didn't go the way Senator Sanders would
like. He lost in Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, and others. Instead of gaining
delegates on Biden he fell farther behind. Next week more big states will be
voting, and unless Sanders has a big improvement he may have to admit
defeat. I hope he goes to Biden and is willing to work with him about some
of his policies. Biden will need support from Sanders voters to defeat Trump.
So a reasonable compromise should benefit Biden and the country.   

I would like to see a progressive government for the United States. But we have
to remove Trump, a man who only wants the rich to control the country. A man who
only cares about how much money he can make using the office of president.
For many years people have tried to make the United States more progressive,
but the GOP have continued working hard to keep control. To make government
smaller to keep taxes low, and by using human greed to promote their ideas. All
to protect the top 5% of the people, and their riches. .

Already some in the GOP controlled senate are pushing to  investigate Joe Biden and
his son. Hoping it will help Trump's re election. Something they do each time there is a
serious threat to their control of government. The GOP never fails to use anything to win,
no matter how disgusting it is. As long as they have control they will limit voting for any
group that opposes their control.

These big political action committees that raise millions of dollars to support GOP
candidates was a design of the GOP to win elections. Because the rich weren't allowed
to give huge amounts of money to support candidates otherwise. The heart of the GOP
is little more than 30% of the people, so the GOP have to  cheat and scheme to win.

237 days to go, and Trump wants to cut taxes to aid the economy. So how is a
tax cut going to help people when they aren't working, because they have to
stay home. Because they are sick from this Corona Virus, or because schools
are closed they have to care for their kids. Even those who have family like
grandparents, it's a risk if the kids stay with them instead.

It's time Trump forgot about his re election, and put the people of this country first
for a change. In the past the Center for Disease Control had priority over any
government response to health concerns.  But not with Trump. They have to follow
his instructions good or bad.

Thankfully some of the experts at the CDC are willing to side step Trump and go
directly to the media and give them the real results of their findings. Reports are 
Trump went in a rage each time the CDC didn't follow his instructions. Because he
doesn't want this virus to control his decisions, or cost him his re election.

 People have to take this disease seriously, even if Trump doesn't want them to. Trump
want people to believe this virus will go away soon, and people shouldn't worry about it.
Testing should have been ramped up 2 months ago. There isn't any way to control the
spread  of any disease without knowing who has it and who doesn't. Even with more
test kits available testing is still restricted and hard for many health professionals to
get it when requested or needed. So many more people will get sick and some will
die, because Trump fears he will lose his next election if the virus drives down the
economy.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 12, 2020, 01:12:41 pm
236  days, and Trump's Corona virus voes grow.

Trump spoke to the nation on TV last night. The speech
was apparently designed to help him more than the
people. He put more emphasis on businesses than the
virus. Yes he did restrict travel from Europe, except
from England and Americans returning. He bragged
about how he stopped  travel from China, but this
was only partly true. He  still let some return, and
hasn't restricted travel to   South Korea, One of the
world hot spots for the  corona virus. He also didn't
mention any restriction for crews on  container ships
from the far east and  China.

He claimed there would be more testing, but
it's still way slower than nearly every other country
in the world. He didn't mention increasing the number
of hospital beds, and there is every chance we are
looking at a big shortage in the near future. He made
big claims about how much he has done to prevent
the spreads of the virus, yet there is no real evidence
of this. In fact he has done little but to claim there isn't
any risk for most Americans.

I got the feeling listening to him that we are fighting
a war, and not a virus. While it is true we should stand
strong. It will take science to  defeat such a disease. 
Also the public will have to stay away from crowds
and anyplace where there is a lot of people.  why?
Because we must slow the progression of the virus
to give our system of health care a chance to treat
people. If the numbers become huge there won't
be enough to handle them, and they will have to
allow some to  die while treating those who have
the best chance to  survive.

Though Trump talks the talk, but so far his
interest is the economy more than the people.
Time will tell if he follows through for anyone
but the rich, who give him a lot of money.

In a news conference Trump had this morning,
he was asked about testing, and his response
was to  talk about how many test kits are being
created. Not much about how hard it is for people
to get tested.  Just to say testing is going great,
because he wants people to believe he is doing a
fine job.

It all boils down to Trump's administration has no
idea how to deal with a health crisis. Because Trump
hired people because of their donations to him, and
not because they know how to do the job. Even
those in the GOP are complaining about Trump's
people who come to hearings, where they can't
anser questions they should be able to answer
if they were qualified to do their job.

The GOP  are partly to blaim, because they
could  have told Trump to not put people in jobs
just because  he liked how much money they
gave him. The GOP senate is more guilty of
this than anyone else. Because they have
approved most of them.

The congress is trying to move a bill through that
would give those affected  by the virus temporary
aid, but the GOP is stalling, because they want
to protect their supporters first. Not all of them,
but enought to slow down the process. The
Democrats are pushing to get it done inspite
of this. So time will tell if Trump sides with
the GOP or not. If he does, a lot more people
will suffer.  Trump's tax relievf  doesn't help
because if  people can't work tax saving do
little if any good.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 13, 2020, 01:25:23 pm

235 days till the election, and Trump is wanting to blame Obama for the slow
response to the corona virus.

In early February Trump was calling this virus a hoax by the Democrats and news
media. Now he is trying to find another goat to blame. Because he just couldn't be
responsible for it. Trump's ego keeps him from doing the right thing, so he is always
looking for  someone to blame when anything goes bad, and takes credit for everything
that goes right.

I think this health crisis is finally proving to many of Trump's followers that he really only
cares about himself, and not the people of this country. Unless they are rich with a check
for him in their hand.

The stock market is up a bit today, but I think it's more about people buying up cheap
stocks, and not better feelings about the economy. I heard a report Chase, one of
the countries biggest banks is predicting a recession in the near future.

It seems no one is saying it, but I think this slow response is more about profits for testing
labs, and pharmaceutical companies than anything else. Because they could have got help
from other countries in February, but it was turned down. I think it was Trump not wanting
to give his rich friends competition that would hurt their profits.  Trump and the GOP are all
aflutter about how much the aid for the public is going to  cost the country. Yet they didn't
worry about that when they gave Trump a huge tax cut for big business and the richest
Americans. Now Trump is pushing for a payroll tax cut. This should have been the tax
cut he got, instead of the big one for his rich friends.

Free enterprise, and Capitalism is fine, but is a hindrance during a crisis. Because if people
put profit over public health we all suffer the loss. And many will do this, unless government
puts a stop to it. Of course when government is run by greedy people they often look the
other way-instead of stopping it. Unfortunately the business oriented GOP have a hard
time  accepting social need, even during a health crisis.

The house controlled by the Democrats has been working hard to  get a aid package passed
to help people affected by the corona virus, but Trump and the GOP have been stalling to protect
businesses, from being required to have sick leave, and other expenses included in the aid bill.
Many small  businesses don't have any sick leave, so workers lose pay when sick, plus doctor
bills. It's likely there will be more viruses to deal with in the future, so workers really need
some protection when they or their kids are sick.

Also the GOP is trying to take this opportunity to make
changes that  would affect existing social programs. Even
to get rid of some, As well as accusing the Democrats of
wanting to add more. I don't doubt the Democrats are trying
to help people. But the GOP should be ashamed trying to take
advantage of a health crisis to help their friends and supporters
 make more money, while hurting the needy.


During Trump's address to the nation, he claimed health insurance companies would cover
Corona virus health expense with no co pay. This was a lie, along with several others he
had  to correct the next day. Trump just can't help himself. He has to lie, and lie. So how
can people expect to believe anything the Trump administration claims.  Even the CDC isn't
reporting the whole truth, because Trump wants his administration to cover up his mistakes.

Every city in this country has homeless people. People who go to privately owed shelters
and food banks to survive. Many panhandle for money as well. So what happens when these
people catch the corona virus? They will spread it even more as they move about and beg
for food and money. This is another reason we need national health care. So even the poor
in the streets have a place to get care, and medicine. The poor and homeless often spread
diseases more than any other group.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 14, 2020, 01:05:01 pm

234 days left, and Trump is afraid his stock market is going down even more. So he
was out in the  Rose Garden with big business leaders talking about how much they
want to work to control the corona virus. Trump wants to give millions to the air
passenger service, and the shale oil industry, and other  businesses he feels wheel
improve stock prices and the economy. Then made statements he has declared
a national emergency to free up money for this purpose. Even claims his administration 
is working hard to increase testing, when this should have been done in January,
and still is barely1000 tests a day across this nation. Doctors and hospitals still
finding it hard if not impossible to get testing for people who need them.

This apparently did help the stock market as it jumped up 2000 points
during his Rose Garden news conference and speech. I have a hunch  it
will start down again, because people have to get out and spend money,
or the economy will continue to sag. Cuts to interest rate sand other
treasury tricks won't do much to  help.  Until people feel it's safe to
return to normal.

Trump doesn't seem to understand those he calls the little people are the economy.
Not the billionaires and big business. who just provide jobs for those who buy their
products. A bill was passed in the house finally after Trump said he would sign it. The
GOP wouldn't even vote for it unless Trump said he would. Moscow Mitch was crying
the Democrats were just filling a wish list, instead of working with them to help all
Americans who  need aid to get through this crisis. And where is the senate and
Moscow Mitch? He sent the senate home for a 3 day weekend. That's how much
he Trump and the GOP cares about the people.  So we all will have to  wait till the
GOP decide to do their job.

The business oriented GOP have been working hard to reduce the size of government.
An efficient government is fine, but it has to be large enough to handle national
emergencies. Something the GOP and Trump want to  ignore. Natural disasters
do not compare with pandemics that effect us all. Even wars short of a nuclear
one don't. Because if enough people get sick society shuts down, and people
across the country will die. Especially those in the cities.

Trump had another news conference today, and was already bragging about the
bill that the Democrats worked hard to pass. As if it was all his idea. He is still
trying to get the interest rates down to help the stock market. Threatening to
fire the man who decides if he doesn't. Apparently Trump believes he can help
himself and the economy by having more  news conferences. He puts a big
group of his puppets on stage where they are  expected to brag on him, while
giving  him credit for doing a great job. Which is  just full of misleading
statements and lies. I am sure some of it is true, but it will take a lot of
fact checking to  be sure. 

Trump always follows his sales tactics, trying to sell misleading statements
and lies. Because he wants people to believe everything he says.  Trumps
love  of the almighty dollar still controls most of what he does.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 15, 2020, 12:56:40 pm

The corona virus is up to  3000 people infected with  50+ deaths
across the nation, and climbing.

233 Days to go. and conservative media is in denial about the  corona virus.
Just how long will they try to support Trump over public health? Many of those
who support Trump are at a bigger risk due to age. So when their local news
start talking about people dying, will they realize the danger Trump and his
lack of concern for two months put this country at greater risk? After all this
time the Trump administration is telling everyone we must support Trump. A
man who tells lies to benefit himself, and no one else.

Personally I consider Trump and the GOP fully responsible for ignoring the danger
this corona virus has put our country and it's people in. The GOP had a chance to
remove Trump so we could take this pandemic seriously. Instead they only cared
about the politics and nothing else. Now I am sure Trump and the GOP will try to
blame anyone but them selves for the damage and deaths this virus will cause.

The response to this disease has been slow at best. Trump is stopping air travel,
but not to Americans. In reality  it's too late, because the virus is already here and
spreading fast. Air travel should have been shut down for all people a month ago.
Not now. I think Trump was worried about the economy and nothing else. Because he
was trying to hide the numbers of those affected by limiting testing. Afraid it would
harm his chances of being re elected. 

Trump claims he was tested. I really doubt if he will admit if it comes out that
he has the virus. If so he will suddenly be too busy to talk to anyone, So the
white house staff will do all the talking, and likely deny all problems with his
health.

So far several GOP members have self quarantined after finding
out they had socialized with a man who had the virus.

It's time the Trump administration uses their national emergency
to  start building temporary hospitals, pressing factories to build
equipment for health care providers, and ventilators now and
not later. The quicker this is  done the better for us all. 

This is something the military could do as well. I fear the Trump
administration will want to use private industry first if not all to
gather.  If we do we can expect a long wait for needed supplies.
Because generally private industry takes time to get up and running.
They will have to find workers to run three shifts a day, and that will
take time. Where the military is trained with people who are ready to
work as needed. under all conditions.

It's time we become inventive. Ventilators don't have to be made with
perfection. Keep them simple as possible. If we require everything to
be made to high specs people will die waiting.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 16, 2020, 12:47:04 pm

232 days left and even with Trump's begging the treasury to drop
interest rates, as I expected this did little good, and the stock market
dropped again today. So Trump is running out of options to keep 
a falling aecconomy from continuing down. So  it's time he realized
it's the health crisis  that is driving the economy,  no matter what
he wants it to be. So it's time he gets out of the way  and let the
experts do their job.

The states will have to work together, and not depend on Trump.
Or we could end up getting little done to save lives. The GOP and
Trump see the aid the Democrats are pushing for as socialistic and
don't want any part of it. This is why Moscow Mitch closed the senate
for the long weekend. To give GOP members time to fight for their
big money supporters.

We can only hope the public will let the GOP know they are putting
their party at risk if they don't help those who really need it.  The
If things get bad enough, this country could be pushed toward
socialism inspite of the wishes of the GOP and Trump. All societies
need a bit of socialism. It's time the rich are forced to deal with it.

The corona virus has pushed our society out in front of the GOP, and
Trump. People need help. If they can't work they can't pay the bills, so that
leaves the government to keep society together. Something Trump doesn't
understand how to do, and is shaking in his boots for fear everything is going
to fall  down arounnd him.

It's disasters like this that get leaders in real trouble, because it generates
the fear that takes a real leader to cure.  Empty pkromisses by the GOP and
Trump just won't cut it.

It's time Trump stops trying to tell the public it's all fine and in control, and start
leading for a change. I fear he just doesn't know how to do it, and is afraid to try.,
for fear of losing.

The GOP controlled senate is back, but Moscow Mitch and his cronies are in a back
room trying to figure out how to save their rish supporters money. It's time they
start worring about the public and do what needs to be done, inspite of what
their rich frends want.  Otherwise they may be looking for a job come next
November.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on March 16, 2020, 02:38:26 pm
I just read the following on CNN and my first thought was "Way to go, Trump. Throw the American people under the bus why don't you.".  :goldpissed: :goldpissed: :goldpissed:

Total imbecile. Moron.

Quote
Trump urges governors to secure additional medical equipment on their own

From CNN's Kaitlan Collins

President Trump urged governors on a call today to try to secure additional medical equipment on their own without waiting for the federal government to intervene, though he did say they would try to help.

"We will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves," Trump said on the call, according to a person familiar.

He was discussing what health experts say is a serious need for more respirators and ventilators to deal with the influx of coronavirus patients.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 17, 2020, 01:02:37 pm

Yes Kobuk, Trump is a moron and a idiot to boot. He and the GOP care
more about the economy that the public health. Nearly every speech
he makes is about business especially big business, because that
drives the stock market.

Day 231 and Trump  tells governors to do the job he is suppose to do. The
military needs to be enlisted in this fight. They have a strong medical care
system that needs to be added to the private health system. Unfortunately
only the president can order the military and the  Army core of engineers to
help with the job of protecting us all. So people wait and die, while Trump
brags, and postures about how good a job he is doing. 

The medical community tells us we need more beds and ventilators. The military
has a stockpile of ventilators, and bed capacity, but Trump will have to release
them.

Some of this was addressed today, but as usual we have to wait and see what
Trump does. Because he lies constantly. Hopefully he will approve what is needed
and not stall as he and the GOP have been doing. 

Moscow Mitch is now wanting to change the bill passed in the house, because
he wants to protect businesses and the economy first, and the public health
second. Then only if it doesn't cost too much. As I said the GOP doesn't want
to get into socialist practices for fear people will want to keep them. That's
why they continue trying to destroy Obama care (ACA) They fear the public will
want to keep it.

The Trump administration say they are looking and considering this and that.
It's time they did something instead, because every day more people get sick and
die.

Trump wants to give billions to big industry. 50 billion to the air
passenger industry. Seems to me they can just part some of their
planes if they don't need them. Keep them afloat, yes, but not
with huge amounts to  rich people that don't really need it. Also
we should be pressing factories into building medical equipment. Now
not later. Already Britain is doing this. So there isn't any reason we
can't. Yes it takes time to retool, but the more we wait the more
people die.

Trump continues to say this will be over very soon, and the economy will
grow and grow. This is because Trump is afraid if it doesn't he will lose in
November.  So as he has in the past  he misleads and lies to benefit himself.

We all hope it will end soon, and there is even a  vaccine being tested, but even
if it works, it will take time to prove how safe and effective it is.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 18, 2020, 01:13:51 pm

230  days, and it appears Trump's eyes are starting to open a crack,. Very late,
but it's good to see. Unfortunately his ego is still squirming to get out. He claimed
he knew we were in a pandemic before anyone  else. He just can't keep from
wanting to look like the genius in the room.

Also he still wants to put the  economy ahead of public health. So he talks
to big business leaders, wanting their advice on how to bring the stock market
back up. Because his re election  is never far from his little mind. Trump is
nothing but a lazy old man with a big pocket book. He wants to act smart,
won't take responsibility for anything  that goes wrong. Just like a little spoils
rich kid would.

Trump has finally started to use governmental powers for the public good.
How far? Only time will tell. We have hospital ships that have a 1000 beds,
perhaps more in a pinch. One of these could be parked  in New York harbor.
Will Trump order it? Time will tell. But this disease needs to be hit as  hard
as possible as soon as possible. 

Trump continues to claim this virus will be over soon. This is just him wanting
the public to get out and start up the economy again. We are looking at
unemployment approaching that of the great depression. Over 20%. When
this number comes out you can be sure the stock market will tank. I wouldn't
be surprised if Trump tries to hide it.

I have been talking about Trump, but the GOP have been sitting on bills for
the public good, because the GOP doesn't want to setup sick leave for workers.
Or any other kind of social assistance. After many days they appear to be ready
to vote in the senate after a week of waiting. 

The white house has been having daily news briefings. But Trump makes sure
his puppets toe the mark, and not make him look bad. The briefings would go
better if Trump would just go to Florida and play golf. But he wants to look like
he is doing all the work, so his nose is right there every time telling everyone
how good a job he is doing. Brag brag and brag. While calling every question
that makes him look bad nasty or wrong. It's time he started being honest,
but that is a bad word in his mind.

I must admit, I was a little surprised when Trump cancelled
his rally's. He gets so much from his fans. Their cheers
uplift him. It's a shame he won't go out into the crowd
and embrace them all. But he is afraid of anyone and
hides behind is bodyguards. Something he has done
for many years. Unless of course it's a woman he can
impress or pay to do what he wants. Because according
to him women will do anything for someone famous or
rich.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 19, 2020, 01:49:08 pm

229 days left, and Trump is still up to no good. He promised two
hospital ships would be sent to help, but failed to mention they
are both under maintenance, and won't be available for weeks.
He promised to put our military to work, but the military hasn't
received any orders as of yet. He said he would orders factories
to start building medical supplies, then said when only if we have
to. I wonder how many people have to die before Trump thinks
it's time?

Trump is back with another news conference this morning.  Telling
us how good a job he is doing. Talking  about all the  regulations  he
his slashing,  and how bad they were.  Regulations that were
designed to protect the public. Without them businesses could
put drugs on the market that are dangerous.  Yes the FDA is
slow to release drugs, but it's to protect us. During a crisis
such regulations can be waved, but to do like Trump is doing
is reckless.

Trump continued his speech which started to ramble about
several drugs that had nothing to do with the Corona Virus..
Instead it was to justify his removal of regulations. A man
from the FDA stepped up to the mike and first had to  tell
Trump how good a job he is doing. As usual Trump's ego
takes precipice  over everything else. Then he continued
with a report about the virus. The BP then stepped up and
after telling Trump how good he is, he talked about how
good the government is doing, even though it could do a
lot better in post professionals opinion.

Seems these drugs he talked about showed some signs
of lessening the effects of the virus, but tests must be done
first to prove their usefulness and safety. As usual Trump jumps
the gun about them. Instead of letting the experts make the
report first.

I wish I could brag about the Trump administration, but it
and the GOP are getting a D- in most cases. Trump has
spent his life starting businesses then walking away
expecting them to run themselves. Of course they
fail, and Trump blames everyone but himself. This
is how he is running the government, and all those
bad people he put in high office just don't know
how to do the job. Trump of course just says it's
not my responsibility. As I said, Trump is lazy.
Doesn't know how to lead, or to even be a good
boss. He just wants to sit back and  have people
brag about him. Again like a spoiled  rich kid.

I thought it was a bit odd, when Trump sat with
people who had this virus, but never got it. Even
to shake hands with a man who had it. Makes a
person wonder if Trump is taking something to
protect himself. Though this is unlikely. Probably
those he was around didn't have the virus after all.

Trump can't stay on subject, no matter how hard
he tries. Then he never misses a chance to bad
mouth the news media or the Democrats. Even
during this crisis. Trump only wants to hear good
reports about him and his administration, and always
claims he is the best at everything.  Yes he should
promote calm and security, but telling lies just
makes everything worse.

He went through the whole news conference without giving
the public any real news. Just a lot of frag and  bluster and
promises that continue to be made and not fulfilled. 

So far it's been the states that are really trying to do a good
job. Trump is just talking and not much else. Perhaps Trump
would take it seriously if he was personally affected. perhaps
not, unless it hurt his bank account.

Turns out even young people are starting to get the virus in a
way that puts them in the hospital. Mostly those of the very
young.  Perhaps this will get the attention of the GOP and
supporters of Trump. To ask why he isn't doing more. Who
can say.

Congress has passed some bills to aid workers and the
public, but more must be done to keep the country
moving forward. The more Trump and the GOP drag
their feet. The longer this will last.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 20, 2020, 01:10:33 pm

228 days left, and even though Trump said he knew this pandemic was
coming, he apparently called it a hoax to give his friends time to sell
stock. GOP members told voters all was well, while they sold their stock.

Yes they are swearing they never did such a thing. Now Trump is trying to
say no one could know it was coming, Yet in 2018 the Trump administration
rand a test pandemic. Yet they ignored the results.  In early February Trump
was caught saying I want reported numbers kept down.  Though the Trump
administration   knew it was coming they didn't push to have testing ready,
or preparatory supplies made ready. Apparently wanting to keep the public
in the dark as long as possible. 

This is one time Trump's desire to hide facts may come back, and bite him and
his corrupt GOP friends hard. Every one of them should lose their  seat, and some
should end up in jail.

Trump still hasn't ordered all factory's under the war powers act to manufacture all
the medical supplies they can. The last I heard he was leaving that as a last resort.
We can only wonder what he considers the last resort is. He keeps saying he has done
it, but time will tell.

Trump went back on the immigrant thing again. Trying to use the Corona virus as an
excuse. Well gathering up immigrants will only spread the virus. So they best let this
go for now. Of course Trump wants it as a campaign talking point. So it's likely he will
want it to continue.

The Trump administration as I figured is pushing to have unemployment claims
 go unreported. Because they are rising into the millions. Something Trump doesn't
want the public to see. I am sure he will want unemployment figures covered up as
well. It's likely they will hit 20% at least.

I think Trump and the GOP better hope this virus is on it's way out this fall, or they
will likely fall in a big way themselves.

The way the vice president talks,  butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. Instead of honestly
telling facts. He stands there bragging on Trump and how great everything is going. The
people aren't children, they want the truth, not some alternative fact that is more a lie
than anything else. Hospitals and clinics are running out of medical supplies, no matter
what Trump and the vice president say. These press conferences are more to make
the GOP and Trump look good than anything else, because they tell little real information.

A reporter asked Trump what he can tell people to help their fears, and he called it a
bad, nasty question. Something he tells any reporter who asks something he doesn't
want to answer. He was asked about GOP members selling stocks because of inside
information, he defended them of course, since they were GOP members he likes.

I wonder how many people have to die, before Trump is seen as what he is, a corrupt
con artist who will lie and mislead the public at the drop of a hat. Even if it kills people.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 21, 2020, 01:28:01 pm

227 days to go and  the  GOP senate is wanting to give a one time check of
$1200.00  to workers  between the salary of 40,000 to 99,000 a year. Those
below that get less  if anything at all. Big business would get bailouts of
 millions  to billions of dollars. Without any restrictions on how to use
the money.

So they can give bonuses with it, by back stock with it, but they don't have
to help any workers with it. Just money they can pocket. All the GOP want
is help with their re election.

Seems Trump is wanting bailouts for hotels, and motels too. Suppose that
is because he has them? Of course it is.  They should write it into the bill
that no public official can benefit from a bailout including the president.
If you feel sorry for Trump, just remember he ran for office, no one
forced him there.

The Democrats in the senate unlike the GOP are pushing for multiple payments
over the next  several months. For workers and the poor. Also they are pushing for
better unemployment coverage, and sick leave. Even relief for college loans, and
help if people have to retake courses because of this crisis. This isn't all, but it
shows which party is for working people, and people in general.

Yes small businesses do need help, but they must use the money to stay in
business, to help their employees. Along with other operating expenses.
Many, especially big corporations use tax savings to  buy back stock.
This should not be allowed with bailout money.

Trump continues trying to say there are drugs available that can all but
cure the Corona Virus. He is saying this in spite of doctors who say they
need to be tested first. These claims by Trump are based on unproven
evidence. Where people apparently got better because they took a drug.
There could be several reasons why people get better. So it must be
sorted out before millions slammer for a drug that may only have a
placebo effect if anything at all.

This kind of talk is likely Trump trying to gain points  with his supporters.
Trump like any official should leave medicine to  medical men and women.
All it does is confuse people, and increase distrust of government. Without
trust fear takes over, and fear is a danger to us all.

It's time Trump put our military at work to organize this crisis. They have
the know  how to distribute material and supplies where they are needed.
The last thing we need is politics controlling it as Trump likely wants to do,
so he can claim this fall how great a job he did.  I really fear Trump is worried
more about losing the election than the health of the people. Along with the
GOP, and the billionaire elite.

Trump had another news conference where  guess what?   Why! he bragged about
how good a job he is doing, and how good a job his administration is doing. So we
can only wonder why hospitals and clinics can't get the supplies they need.  Because it
isn't his fault. Because to hear Trump he isn't responsible for anything. By the way he
said we all need to sacrifice.  Everyone but Trump of course.

As I said yesterday these news conferences are more about bragging than substance. Likely
Trumps substitute for the rally's he can't have.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 22, 2020, 01:28:04 pm

226 days till election day, and  Trump is showing how low he can get. This
business of pushing drugs, that just might work against the corona
virus is a con. There is no real evidence to prove these drugs work.
The doctor on stage with Trump does everything but call Trump down
for his claims. Testing must be done before talking about any cure. But
Trump is apparently hoping this drug will save him from all his mistakes
 by stopping the pandemic before election day. Then he can brag about
how he saved the country if not the world. If it doesn't work he can claim
it was a good try, and blaim something or someone else. Because he can't be
at fault for anything.

The worst part about this is his followers will likely ignore all the precautions
to prevent spreading the disease, because Trump and the far right want to
say it's not a big deal. This is likely why Trump and the GOP are dragging
their feet. To really go after this pandemic fully, would legitimize it, and.
to do that would expose their mistakes and lies.

It's a shame Trump wasn't born 150 years ago, then he could have
sold his snake oil from the back of a wagon.

29000 people are infected, and well over 300 dead. This virus isn't slowing
down. We can only wonder at what point will Trump and the GOP do the
job they were elected to do. GOP congress members and in the senate
are doing all they can to limit help given to the people that need it most.
Instead they want to help those rich businessmen who help them stay in
office. 

By November, if this virus is still going strong, we will need to have voting
by mail. Otherwise many people may stay at home. Of course the GOP
doesn't want voting to be easier, so they won't likely vote to allow mail
in voting. Even though several states do already.

It is sad, but crowds of people are in Washington DC to  look at the 
Cherry blossoms this year. Well there is a possibility that some of
them won't live to see another spring by being in these crowds. The
park department should be discouraging this by warning them to
spread out.

The GOP controlled senate is voting to put a time limit
for getting a bill ready that is supposed to help control the
corona virus. This move is more to prevent the Democrats from
getting help where it's needed. Because the GOP doesn't want to
spend money for anything that might increase spending for social
leaningprograms. They fear if they do they won't be able to get rid
of them without being punished.

It's likely we should be enforcing the rules needed to control this
virus. Though many would complain, it's snot unusual where it's
necessary to save people from themselves. Otherwise tens of
thousands could die.  Many of which may be sent home to die
because hospitals don't have the room or equipment to treat
them. By the time this happens  it will be too late to prevent
many more from getting the same treatment.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 23, 2020, 12:56:26 pm

225 days to go. Apparently Trump and his crowd have put a end to this crisis at
march 31. I wonder if anyone has told the Corona virus about it?  Somehow I
think we are  just getting started with it. No matter what the GOP or Trump
want, this is one thing the rich can't  control.

The GOP and Trump want a 500 billion dollar slush fund they can hand out to
please their big business friends. A fund with no oversight at all. The Democrats
say no, because the last time this was done, the money went to give big bonuses
to executives and to buy back stock. This buy back is done to increase the value
of it. Which feeds those at the top. Not the workers of course.

So far Trump has not invoked the war power where the president can order factories
to manufacture products needed during a national emergency. Trump claims this is
nationalizing businesses, yes it is, but just for the emergency, and they are paid
very well. I have a hunch this is big business talking to Trump, asking him not
to do it, because it would be a lot of trouble and a pain. In fact for all we know
their lobbyist are offering Trump money not to do it. Trump doesn't seem to care
that a ad hock volunteer system doesn't work well enough for the emergency we
are in.

As is these volunteer factory's are making states bid against each other
for needed supplies, and equipment, so they can make a huge profit.

This all boils down to the fact that a free market system doesn't work during this
kind of emergency. The government has to  step on toes to get done the things
that need doing. Some rights must be suspended, people have to do things they
don't like. Otherwise a lot of people will die while  greedy people are appeased. 

There is a lot of work being done toward a cure or a treatment, but it is still weeks
perhaps months away. Big mouth Trump isn't helping matters by promising  cures
sooner than later.  Slowly though Trump is helping states with supplies and equipment
Even some national guard medical facilities as well. He should turn logistics over to
the military. People that are trained to coordinate materials and supplies 

But Trump apparently wants to look like he is doing the job himself. This is how
Trump  likes to do things. Be the man in control. The problem is he isn't smart
enough to be a boss. Oh he thinks so, but 4 bankruptcy's prove he is not. 

Moscow Mitch stood at his podium in the Senate and lied about what the Democrats
are doing to hold up the GOP relief  bill. Of course he didn't mention his 500 billion
dollar slush fund the GOP wants to please big business. It's time Trump and the GOP stop
their partisan bickering, and vote for the people and not for their super rich friends.
They can have a vote to help big business later, but no, they know they will have
to put controls on their big fund for big corporations if it's done alone. So Moscow
Mitch wants to play a blame game trying to get his way.

The number of people infected around the world is at 240,000  The number of
dead is at 9,800. 

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 24, 2020, 12:53:42 pm

224 days and it  appears Trump, the GOP, and the far right is wanting
 to send people back to work even though they might be sick, or could
spread the virus.  Because their economy is going down, and putting
Trump's election in November at risk.

 Right now his plan is to wait till April 1, and  declare the virus under
control, and have everyone go back to work and to  school.
Somehow I really don't think this will fly. Some will listen to
Trump, but most people are going to be very slow about returning
to a normal way of life with people dying in hospitals from this virus.
So even if businesses open, they will not have enough customers to
stay that way. Also if schools open, there won't be enough students
to keep them open.

At what point will the cult of Trump understand Trump only cares
about himself. Are they going to follow him when he tells them
money matters more then lives? Sure the rich may feel they can
hide in their ivory towers and be safe, while 100's of thousands die
from a disease out of control, because they  didn't want to lose some of
their riches.

The main reason a relief bill has been stalled, is due to the GOP wanting
a 500 billion dollar slush fund, that they can hand out without oversight.
Of course Trump said he would over see it.  Sure, you just as well give a
fox control of a hen house. First thing Trump would do would be to hand
a wad of money to his son n law, and a bailout for his hotel businesses.
Because he could hide every bit of it. This has apparently be worked out,
so there will be oversight by a panel.

The Democrats say no. It's workers first, hospitals, clinics, and after that  then
big corporations can get their loans. All they have to do is put their workers first.
Something they really don't like to do.

It's not that hard, but the GOP works for their rich friends   first, and the people later
if they get around to it. Another thing is many GOP members in the legislature are stock
holders, so they want the stock market to go up. So they are going to push to  get the
economy going, even if it kills people. Yes alot of rich people do care, but many care more
for their pocketbook than anything else, and Trump is leading the pack.

It seems Trump has taken one of the countries best doctors off the press conference stage
 because  he didn't agree with him. This is what Trump does. You do as he says or your out.
It doesn't matter how wrong he is, Trump wants everyone to think he is always right.

The Democrats tried to  get mail in voting in the relief bill, but the GOP doesn't want anything
that makes voting easier. Because it would likely cost them elections. The democrats will keepl 
trying, but it probably won't get passed. Even if it did, Trump wouldn't sign it. 

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 25, 2020, 12:57:13 pm

223 days  left. The senate may vote on a 2 trillion dollar bill today. But time will
tell. This could have been done already, but the GOP kept trying to make it so
Trump could give billions away without any oversight. They did their best to
help big business and their rich friends. So the Democrats had to work hard
for days, to make the bill work fore  real people and not just for the richest
Americans.

It's sad, to see Moscow Mitch stand at his podium  bragging about a senate vote he
didn't really want passed in the first place.  No he wanted a big  package for the rich
 instead, but due to the hard work  of the Democrats it works more for the people.
Mitch of course being a politician jumped on the band wagon, and I am sure Trump
will claim credit as well.

I said yesterday that Trump wanted to open up the economy April 1, but no
he is waiting for Easter. I have a hunch he picked that day for his religious
supporters benefit.  Still even this date is too soon. Yes some parts of the country
don't have a lot of sickness, but in two weeks this will likely change. If businesses
and schools open  back up  the virus will have a lot of people to infect once more.
So that will require another shut down.  A too soon return to get the economy
moving  again will just make things worse.

A large right wing religious college said they would open up after spring break. This
campus  has close to 100,000 people studying and working there. I can't imagine
the number of infections will be spread there and to the families  of the students
when they return home. I have a hunch this decision was money related, because
it makes no sense health wise. Because you can be sure many students picked up
the virus while on spring break.

A lot of young people apparently have decided this virus is just a old persons disease.
Well they best think again. Though fewer in number, people  in their 20's are getting
sick and ending up dead, and some younger than that. It seems the far right and
conservative news is trying to convince people the economy is more valuable  than
people's lives. Apparently in support of their king Trump. This will only lead to more
problems. It's time the far right forget about Trump and do what's right. Otherwise
we could end up in a depression for sure.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 26, 2020, 01:20:01 pm

222 days till this falls election, and the GOP is doing all they can
to stall the passage of the relief bill. A bill that could have been
done a week ago otherwise. At the last minute the GOP voted to
cut unemployment payments by $600.00 for the  lowest wage
workers.

The GOP is so afraid they might give a dollar to someone who
isn't rich. Someone who wouldn't help them get re elected. It's
time the people wake up and realize the Republican party is all for
the businessman, and only for the businessman. Oh! they claim they
are for the working man, but not directly, only through the businessman
and no one else.

Big business stands up and brags about all the jobs they create, but
the workers have to fight to get a decent wage and working conditions.
Now with this health crisis, health care workers are having to beg the GOP 
for protective clothing, while the GOP make false claims that they are working
hard to provide them.

Now Trump and the GOP claim we must end this business of shutting down
the economy, and let the states deal with the  virus. Because the economy is
more important than old people or anyone else that might die. Somehow I think
if one of those old people was Trump, or Moscow Mitch it would be a totally
different story. 

Trump still won't trigger the law that would   require factories  to build medical 
equipment.   Instead he just says he would if it was needed. Using the excuse that
enough factories are volunteering.  The problem with this is factories are running
bidding wars to make all they can. Even selling needed equipment to foreign
countries if they win the bid. So we should ask Trump what happened to
America first? I have a hunch with Trump and the GOP  it's a dollar first
instead.

Personally I feel Trump and many of the GOP members of congress and the
senate should lose their next election. Because they aren't working to help
the people across the country. They are just looking out for their rich
supporters. Supporters who spend millions to get them re elected.

Trump wants to help the cruise industry. A industry that pays very little in taxes.
A industry who is almost totally own by foreigners. Is this more of Trump's America
first? Doesn't sound like it to me. He wants to give billions to big corporations as well.
I guess Trump and the GOP forgot about chapter 11 bankruptcy. It allows businesses
to restructure and get loans. Especially  if they have assets. Like big ships and lots
of airplanes. So there is little reason to give them a bailout, except to  please their
rich friends. Gotta have that re election money I guess.

Big corporations will get this money quickly, but small businesses will have to wait
to get the loans they need. So if Trump and the GOP think the economy is going to
bounce back, they may be waiting for a while. Because the economy rides small
businesses, not big corporations.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 27, 2020, 01:03:10 pm

221 days left. The house is set to vote on the two trillion dollar relief
bill. Seems a GOP congressman is threatening to ask for a roll call
vote. This won't keep the bill from passing. It's just a man up to no
good. Even Trump called him out for making the party look bad.

It appears the corona virus is hitting New Orleans hard, and is likely
to be the next hot spot after New York. Apparently this is the result of
the Marti  grass celebration. Where over a million people attended in
February. Those in power claimed, no one told them they shouldn't
have it. This a very poor excuse as it was already known the corona
virus could spread in large crowds. It was likely decided it would
cost the local economy to much to not have it.  As usual the Business
community overrides  health concerns.   

Trump still won't use the law to force big companies  to manufacture 
Medical  supplies and equipment.  He and the GOP want to  open
up businesses and  relax restrictions allowing the public to
get out, and move about communities. This is due to  big
business concerns, because they don't care how  many
sick people die.  They just want the economy up and running
again.

I saw a poll the other day that showed favor for Trump, even to
show favor for his handling of this corona virus. It amazes me to
see how little people check for facts, and just want to believe the
most corrupt man who ever served as president. After all it was Trump
who called this virus a hoax in early February. I suppose these people
still think it's a hoax. Even with a half million people infected around
the world. This disease Trump wanted to call a bad cold will likely kill
tens of millions before it's done. 

There is talk of investigations after this crisis has past, but I can
guarantee little will be done if the GOP have anything to do wit
it. Because it's the GOP in control, and to  hear them and Trump
everything is going just fine. And when the economy is going again
they will be happy, and the deaths will be irrelevant.

In spite of claims by Trump and the VP supplies and equipment  are
in short supply. Also limited testing for the virus. These problems
put many more people at risk. Especially doctored and nurses.   Just
remember than if you think the GOP and Trump  cares about you. because
they don't.

World wide the number of people infected is nearly 550,000 , and deaths 
are nearly 25,000.

The numbers for the United States is over 85,000 infected, and over
1,250 deaths.


This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 28, 2020, 01:01:56 pm

220 days left and the right wing is ready to sacrifice older  Americans for the
good of the economy. Not counting the moral aspects of this. Opening up the
economy will just kill more people, and really wreck the economy in the end.

Sending people back to work could cause  the Corona virus to continues spreading
across the nation this summer and into  the fall. If so, Trump and the far right will
have  to deal with a depression that could last for several years.

I doubt even the cult of Trump could survive that. The depression of the 1930's
came close to destroying the Republican party, and another one could finish the
job. I really doubt if Trump even cares. Because he will sit back in his gold plated
tower while people starve, grow sick and die. 

Trump's lack of morality stood out strong when he said he wouldn't help governors
who didn't give him praise.  This isn't new for Trump, he expects praise for everything
he does. and wants to punish those who call him out for his bad actions.

The relief bill that was passed does help a lot of people, and will likely make a lot of
rich people even richer. Trump told one foreign corporation to register here and they
would be eligible for bail out money. Is that Trump trying to make American Great
again? Though it may help some workers here, those corporations pay little or no
taxes here. I find it hard to believe these rich corporations are all that hard up.
Especially when they pay their executives millions.

The democrats will try to push another bill through  to help the poor and disadvantaged,
but I  am sure the GOP will stall, and cry for weeks, now that they don't need the
Democrats to help get money for their rich supporters. Moscow Mitch has already
made claims that the Democrats are just wanting to pass social programs during this
crisis.  Something the GOP hasn't any problem with it the program is to help the rich.
They continue to claim  trickle down economics is the best way to help workers.

It's been proven wrong time and time again, because human greed gets in the way. It's been
shown the richer people are the more greedy they are, no matter what the GOP wants to claim.

The number of people infected in the United States is over 102,000, and the death toll
 is over 1,600. With no signs of slowing.

This link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 29, 2020, 01:13:34 pm

219 days till Trumps day of reckoning. It seems he is starting to worry because
he is complaining about an advertisement telling people the truth about how
he has responded to the corona virus. Even threatening to sue TV stations
that air it, and if that doesn't work he threatens to have their license
removed. I doubt if he could legally do this, but Trump would likely
try anyway, hoping to scare off station owners from airing the
offending ad.

As is he moved his press conferences to prime time, which steals   valuable
advertisement time from stations across the country. He is doing this because
he can't have his rally's any more. Some stations are moving their coverage
to secondary channels,but it still hurts the stations revenue. Something
Trump cares nothing about. 

Trumps comments do little to give the conference any value to the public. since
Trump mostly lies and brags about himself, and how much good he is doing
for the country. He doesn't care about deaths or health care workers. He may
make a good talk, but there isn't anything from his heart. Because he only
worries about himself, and his re election. He apparently doesn't understand
being president is for all the people, not just those who brag about him.

The governor of New York gives news conferences any president could be proud
of. Perhaps this is why Trump doesn't like him. Instead of learning from this man,
he considers himself smarter by running the governor down.

Trump has a belief that to win you have to fight back. This is why he bad mouths
anyone who makes him look bad. This may work in cut throat business deals, but
not in government, and especially not as president. Some may think he will learn,
but as in the old saying  Old Dogs can't learn. Trump never will. He might be rich
but he is a mental midget, and only has wealth because he inherited  it. 

Unfortunately Trump benefits from people wanting to support the president during
national emergency's. He has done nothing to earn it. Just as he has done little or
nothing to build the economy, which was growing when he became president.

Some may claim there are enough hospital bed, and ventilators, but what about next
week? The biggest problem we  have with the virus , is Trump and his GOP friends
want to wait and see what is needed. Not to prepare for it. Because that might be
an unnecessary expense. This business way of responding to a health crisis is only
 going  to make it worse. 

The speaker of the house said it. Trumps actions are deadly. Because he just fiddles
around trying to make his self look good.

 in the united states.The last I heard122,000  were infected and over 2,200. have died.

world wide the infected number is almost 700,000 , and over 30,000 deaths.
 and 141,000 have recovered. Depending on the age group the death rate is
around 2%.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 30, 2020, 12:58:42 pm

218 days yet to go. The hospital ship Comfort  arrived in New York. This ship will
handle a lot of non corona virus emergencies in the city. This is fine, but the  cities
hospitals need tens of thousands of ventilators , and other supplies. So what is
Trump doing? Worrying about the costs of these supplies, making accusations
that people are asking for a lot more than they need. Not just in New York,
but around the country. As if he is an expert about medical needs.

If there are suspicions of theft or hording, Trump should have the Justice department
look into it. Making it public just harms the credibility of hospitals unnecessarily. But
Trump wants to look like he is on top of it. No matter who or what it hurts. At this
time our hospitals  and other medical services need all the credibility they can get.

Though Trump extended the recovery date to April 30, He is claiming the peak will be on
Easter. This might be true for certain areas of the country, but the virus is moving around
the nation, and will be months  before we see a overall reduction.

Using lies and misleading statements, Trump is dancing around trying to take credit for
anything that might help his credibility. If Trump had not tried to  hide the fact that the
corona virus would be a pandemic. and pushed to really control it. He would likely have
guaranteed his re election. But no, Trumps paranoia and ego caused him to do the
opposite, and will likely cost his re election instead.

The longer this virus holds the world and this country hostage, the more damage to the
economy, and will likely push the world into a economic depression. So it's time Trump
gets out of the way, and let the experts do their job, because all he accomplishes is to
slow everything down with his economic worries.

Trump just can't stand it. He just has to brag on himself,
even if he has to  lie about it. He complains if a news
reporter ask a question he doesn't want to answer. Especially
if the question is about a lie, or a mistake he made.

There have been over 140,000 infections, and over 2,400 
deaths here in the United states . Also over 2,000  recorded
recoveries.

World wide over 750,000 have been infected, and over 30,000 deaths.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 31, 2020, 01:16:26 pm

217 days left for Trump to convince Americans he is worth re electing.
Well he isn't going to do it by not being able to answer a simple question
about what is going on with the testing for the corona virus. When asked
by a governor about it, Trump said I haven't heard anything about  testing
for weeks. The governor should have responded by saying you should 
quit worrying about the  election and do your job. If he had, I am sure
Trump would have blown up. Because he doesn't like anyone telling him
 what to do. Because of this Trump is unable to do a good job, much
less be president.

The Governor  of New York continues to out perform Trump. He cares about
 the people while Trump worries about his own credibility.  The governor of
New York is on TV explaining the facts about the virus and how he is trying
to deal with it. When Trump is on TV he brags about how good a job he is
doing, and when the economy will be starting.   Not only that he shifts
to subjects that have nothing to do with public health. He seems to think
people want to look at him and hear him talk. Even if it's about nothing
relevant.  Just as he did at his rally's.

Trump claims to be buddy buddy with the leader of China. So he should be
working to help  bring  many of their doctors here to help our doctors with
this virus. They apparently have a pretty good handle on how to treat it.
It would take a order by the president, because i am sure many doctors
wouldn't  like taking suggestions from foreign doctors.

As the governor of New York said, FIMA should be handling distribution
of medical equipment  and supplies. The way it is states are competing 
with each other. Bidding against each other. It wouldn't surprise me if
Trump  and the far right are wanting it this way to make a lot of
money for their rich friends.  Because letting  FIMa or the Military
handle it would be a obvious way to do it.

The latest numbers are  162,000 infections and  over 3000 death.

World wide is almost 800,000  infections and over 38,000 deaths.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 01, 2020, 01:02:33 pm

216 days to go, and it's census day . I hope everyone managed to
get counted. I did mine online yesterday. I sure didn't want one of
Trump's census takers at my door. Hi Hi.

The corona virus is getting in the way of this years election. It's going
to be interesting to see how all these political leaders are going to have
a convention with this virus going around. I kind of doubt we will see Trump
and his cronies talking to a huge crowd if there is a chance they could catch
the virus there. I think the GOP would like to see if the Democrats have a
convention before they commit to one.

There are comments going around about congress having investigations about what
might have caused so many problems during the corona virus pandemic. I am sure
the GOP and Trump won't want the facts brought out. So hopefully the Democrats
can control any investigation that occurs.

Even though Trump and the VP continue to tell us there are millions of tests and supplies
going out many supplies, tests, and some of the ventilators don't arrive at all. This leaves
one to believe  someone isn't being honest. We know Trump often has been found to lie, so
 it's  likely the VP is doing the same.

The Military offered to deliver 2000  ventilators where ever they might be needed, but
Trump  never answered them. So those ventilators are just sitting in a where house, not
doing anyone any good. I can guarantee if Trump or one of his rich friends needed one
it would be there very quick. So it's likely Trump has a few stashed for his personal needs
and friends.

It appears Trump feels that there will be as many as 220,000  deaths when this virus
works it's self through the population. Even to say it would  be acceptable. Some how
I don't think he would want to  be one in that very big number. The trouble is if Trump
opens up the economy to quick the numbers will surge once more. Trump's latest date
of April 30 will be too soon, and I fear Trump won't want to wait much longer, because
he fears the economy won't get going till after the election if he sits on it too long.

The latest U S Corona virus infections are  187,000 , and the deaths are over 3,800.
Over 5,000 have been reported to have recovered.

World wide the number of infections are at 850,000, and  42,000 deaths.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 02, 2020, 01:15:37 pm

215 days left while Trump and the GOP are trying to cover their backsides as the
corona virus takes it's toll on the United States. Some GOP governors are trying
to act like Trump by denying they knew how bad the virus was. Moscow Mitch, the
senate leader is now wanting to blame the Democrats in the house, because their
impeachment of Trump was the reason the government  was slow to react to this
crisis. This is a ridiculous excuse as the house finished the impeachment in
December, and Trump ignored the danger signs while playing golf, and the
senate leader close the senate  when it should have been passing the relief bill.
So if anyone is to blame for delaying government action it was Trump and the GOP.

I wish I could make good comments about Trump and the GOP, but they
continue to mess up day after day. Seemingly because they are worried
more about being re elected than the health of the nation.  Trump is more
concerned with making Obama look bad than the proper run of the government.
President Obama had a plan in place for pandemics, but Trump tossed it away,.
His lack of filling government jobs is making it harder to get the work done.
2000 government  ventilators sent to New York failed to work, because they
weren't maintained. Trump didn't want to spend the money for their maintenance.

It seems Trump is coming  around, but only time will tell, because Trump
has appeared to change in the past, only to go bad again. He sits and watches
the crowd on Fox News, and other conservative outlets. Allowing their nonsense
to make his decisions, instead of listening to people who have the true facts.
Because he wants to win in November above everything else. Even if people
have to die for his benefit.

18 states still haven't required their population  to stay at home. Florida's
governor finally did so. Georgia's   governor did after saying he didn't know
 people could spread the disease without symptoms. Though this
was common knowledge since early February. Just  more dumb
excuses by money hungry GOP politicians. It's time they ignore
Trump and the GOP leadership and work for the people instead.

The big problem is a free market system doesn't work well during
disease pandemics or emergencies. Leaving this to the free market 
allows prices  to climb, because many people want to get rich when
others  are desperate, and will pay any price for their needs. Due to
this  government must step in and force people to do the right thing
for the public good. Otherwise society will self destruct  under the
weight of greed. Some already have the fear of uncontrolled riots,
As many are buying weapons.
 
The number of those infected in the U S is 214,000 with  4,800 deaths.
just over 5,000  have been reported  to have recovered.

Nearly 1 million have been infected  with over 48,000
deaths  world wide.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 03, 2020, 01:25:29 pm

214 days remain and Trump removed a aircraft carrier captain because he
asked to protect the sailors under his command. Trumps excuse was he
didn't follow the chain of command. Perhaps he didn't, but I think those
above him didn't respond to his pleas, so he did what any good commander
would do. Try to protect his men.  As we have seen Trump doesn't do anything
but try to protect his self, and to heck with the rest of us.

The Florida governor declared there would be no restrictions  for religious assemblies.
As if they would be immune to the corona virus. I have a hunch this was because
Trump wanted to please the religious right, and the GOP governor wants to please 
Trump. So we can expect to see other southern GOP governors do the same. With
Trump it's politics over public health anytime.

Medical supplies and equipment are still slow to move. Trump continues to put  people
in control that don't know how to do the job of dealing with this crisis. Instead he puts
family and friends in jobs they have little or no experience doing. He is apparently afraid
to put someone in that will tell the truth or let the public know just how terrible he is at
his job of being  president.

Trump should put the military in charge of distributiting medical supplies and equipment, but
no. Trump wants to play politics with our health, and the health of doctors, nurses and first
respondents.

Trump came out swinging at the Democrats, saying any investigations or oversight
attempt would be called witchunts, and  they should keep their business on making
laws. As usual Trump doesn't want anyone looking over his shoulder , much less the
Democrats.  So we can expect he will do all he can to hide how he uses the money congress
appropriated for businesses.  You can be sure he wants to use it for himself and those he likes.

Trump apparently thinks it's his job to only help those he approves of. So if a state
or any government workers does something he doesn't like,  they are pushed to the
 back of the line, or pushed out of sight.  Trump doesn't understand or care about anything
 -that doesn't help him one way or another.  He just doesn't understands that the job of
president is to work for the people, and not for himself. A president puts him or herself
last, but not Trump. He puts himself first.

If the GOP was doing their job, Trump would have been removed after six months, but no,
they were and are afraid of losing power to the Democrats. No matter what Trump does to
 the country. I am sure history will show this time as dark indeed for the Nation. Certainly
not great as Trump wants to claim. I know many in the GOP feel they are working to make the
country prosper, but the trouble is they want to  dismiss social responsibility while they are at it.

The country is changing, no matter what the far right or conservatives want. White people are
going to have to live with it. They can slow it down, but change will happen, because the younger
generation will take us there.


The number of infected people in the U S is at almost 250,000 and almost 6,000 deaths.
Also around 10,000 have been reported recovered.

World wide the number of infected is over `1 million   and 53,000 deaths. The number of those recovered is over 100,000

This link is to a site where you can see what the senate is doing.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 04, 2020, 12:51:34 pm

214 days left, and with the justice department under Trump's control who can we turn to 
to if we find our president is profiteering with his control of   medical supplies and equipment?

 Trump claims to be a great businessman, but if he is, how come everything is such a mess?
To me it looks like someone is trying to use this crisis to make a lot of money, and the president is
in a position to do just that.  Either for himself, or his family and friends. 

Could this be why he hasn't used his authority  to force factory's to make supplies and equipment?
Because by doing that it would limit profits, and I am sure his big business friend would rather
volunteer so they could make all the money the market would bear.

Yes this is all speculation, but much of what we see points to it. Perhaps if we get a new
president next November, all this can be looked into. Only time will tell.

Trumps son in law said the government stockpile of equipment and supplies is ours, not the
states. Well according to the law it does belong to the states. Ins-spite of what he ore Trump
want to claim. Trump continues to put people in charge only if they are totally loyal to him.
Their ability to do the job means little, since Trump likely figures he can lie his way out of
any problems this might cause.


Ever since Trump started calling the corona virus a hoax, or just the flu. The GOP governors 
got right in line to do much the same. Because the last thing they wanted was to get a nasty
tweet from Trump.  This virtual control that Trump has over the GOP is causing all kinds of
problems for the country. They are so afraid of him they let him break laws and the constitution.
I noticed when I filled out the Census there was a question asking if I was an hispanic. Not just
if I was of Spanish discent. As if Trump was trying to find out how many hispanic's live in the
country, and where they are. This question looks like a substitute for the citizenship question
he wanted, and wasn't allowed by the supreme  court. 

Trump continues to say it's up to the governors to decide what they need, not him. Trump doesn't
want to accept the responsibility  for anything that might make him look bad. The job of president
demands just that, but Trump is only interested in  control and money. He listens to the far right
and the religious  groups expecting to  get their votes. Everyone else is just so much noise. He
runs down anyone who points out his lies and mistakes. Hoping his followers will listen to him and
no one else.

If a good economy is his ace in the hole, he will likely leave the white house in disgrace, because
 his mishandling of this virus crisis will likely end up causing a depression, and the deaths of many
thousands.

The number of infected is 275,000  in the U S. Deaths are at 6,800. Those reported  who
have recovered is just over 10,000

The number world wide is well over a million and deaths are 58,000. Those reported who have
recovered are 250,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 05, 2020, 01:05:07 pm

213 days left, and Trump continues to have his daily lie filled speech. Yes lies , because
nearly every thing he says is either misleading or a lie. All designed to make him look
like he is doing a good job, and yes he is jealous of the New York governor, because
he is getting better reviews, and ratings with his daily reports. Jealous, because Trump
 cares more about ratings than the public health. 

Yes, Trump claims to care about people, but that is just talk, because his actions don't
show it. He punished a navy captain because the captain cared about his crew more than
 Trump did. Something Trump  doesn't want anyone to know.

Trump continues to use the excuse that governors are asking for too many ventilators
and supplies. Claiming this is the reason for the shortages.  There is nothing to show
this to be a fact. If anyone is causing the shortages it's profiteers, that just might
be supported by Trump himself. You can be sure if this is the case Trump will have
it well hidden.

Trump is responsible  for many of the deaths due to the corona virus. Because he would
not accept the need to prepare,  or properly start the work nation wide to deal with this
pandemic.  He continuously worries more about his image than the public good. He demands
those he does help to give him praise,  something no president should ask for.   The worst
part is the republican party won't go to the Democrats and help them remove Trump to
save lives instead of their party. They know Trump's inaction is killing people, but they
won't do anything to stop it.
 
Trump uses his sales tactics when he speaks, be cause he wants to make the best
 use of his free  television time. Time he never dreamed he would have. So he is 
turning it into a daily rally for his followers, and the news media is playing right
along.

Trump never talks to the American people in a way that is caring and understanding
of how they feel. Because he doesn't know how. He hasn't ever been really hungry 
or been without a place to sleep. I doubt if he has ever mourned the death of a loved
one. He may have felt some loss when his parents died, but probably more of the
loss of support than anything else. It's not really his fault, it's just they way his
mind works, and the biggest reason he shouldn't be president. 


The number of  infections here in the U s is 309,000  The number of deaths is nearing 9,000.


The number world wide is 1 million 100,000  infections, and almost 70,000 deaths.

This link is to a site where you can see what the senate is doing.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 06, 2020, 01:01:12 pm

212 days till Trump's election or disgrace. We can only wonder how he will
respond if he looses. It won't be good, I am sure.

To hear the surgeon general this will be a week to remember, not in a good
way, but for the deaths. I really fear it will be the first of several weeks of
death and despair, before Trumps light at the end of the tunnel appears.
Even then it's likely to surge again this fall.

Trump continues pushing his malaria  drugs. So far this has done little  but
cause shortages for those who really need the medicine. I think Trump is
betting it will turn out to be beneficial, so he can brag about it this fall.

Many of those working to find a treatment for this disease  feel it may
take more than one drug to combat this virus, much as it does for
AIDS or some cancers. So it will likely take many months before a reliable
treatment is found.  Hopefully sooner than later.

Trump's news conference last evening was time to conflict with a town hall 
by Joe Biden. Shows Trump continues playing politics with the corona
virus. He couldn't know if Biden might have something important to say.
So he assumed the town hall meeting was political and nothing else.
Just shows how much Trump fears Biden, with his attempt to prevent
news coverage of the meeting.

When Trump started these daily news conferences his poll numbers rose,
but they are beginning to fall again. They never rose as much as they did
for other presidents. With Bush it was a 30% or more jump, With Obama
it was 25% and more. Trump's overall  increase was less than 5%, and has
lost 2% already.  Of course he claims much more, but it's too early to
call any kind of victory for Trump.  If this virus is still killing thousands
and the  economy is tanking by this fall, Trump best pack his bags.

A sad thing about this virus is that it requires separation when comfort 
between people is  needed the most. We all feel the need to be with our
loved ones at the time of death.  But with his virus being close puts us all
 at risk. It is a shame we have a president who is so uncaring at this time.
When we really need a president who can understand the pain and fear the
people have. Perhaps he does try at times, but he just doesn't have the
mental capacity to feel anything but his personal needs.

 One thing people can hold on to is in most cases doctors
nurses, and health care professionals are doing everything
hey can to save lives. Unfortunately the poor and minorities
are suffering the most, because they live in close spaces
which spreads the virus quicker.  Then since they haven't
good access to medical care they are more  likely to die.

Here again Trump doesn't care, because he and the GOP
don't want national health care. This just might change
since a lot of those people who had  insurance with a job
don't have it now. And they will learn what it is to need
insurance, and not have it.  Perhaps then they will let their
elected officials know there  is a need for national health
care. 

The number of people infected in the U S is at 336,000  and over 9,600 deaths.
Over 13,000  have been reported to have recovered.

World wide the number is 1,200,000 infected. and
nearly 70,000 deaths. Those reported to  have
recovered are 260,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 07, 2020, 01:14:07 pm

211  days left, and Trump is trying to claim he didn't have any idea there would be
a virus pandemic. Sadly this is just another one of his lies. He was informed that
there was a high ricks of a pandemic  coming in early January. Not only that, the
GOP controlled senate was informed of this by the middle of January. The GOP
members decided to keep it quiet, so no member could tell the public. We can
only wonder why the GOP wanted to hide this. Perhaps because Trump didn't
want to believe it. and this way he could call it a hoax when the news media
found out. Which he did. 

This is why Trump is wanting to pass along all responsibility to the state governors.
Because if he was saddled with it, and it was found out he knew this was coming
after calling it a hoax. he could kiss his presidency goodby.

The fact the GOP in Wisconsin force the people to have the primary  election while
under a  order to stay home shows how little they care for the public health. It's
all about republican control of the state supreme court. They feared if the election
was delayed so more  could vote. Their man running for supreme court judge might
lose. Just more proof the republican party cares little for the democratic process
unless it's in their favor.  It was a majority vote by both the GOP controlled state
supreme court and the GOP controlled federal supreme court that voted to force
the election, and it was a party line vote in both cases.

Trump continues to push the malarea drugs, and he knows it's a no lose message,
because if it doesn't work. He will say it was a good try, and if it does, he will
claim credit for it.  He doesn't care that there is a risk to somepeople if they
use it, even if it kills them. This is why it needs to be tested and only used
on people as a last resort.

I know a lot of people are like Trump. They would agree it's worth the risk. The
trouble as is, there is no real way to know if a person recovers because of the
drug or because they just recovered.  This is why studies are needed.  I do
hope it turns out to be a viable treatment.

Trump continues to claim testing is going well around the country, yet in many
places people can't get tested. It's the same with supplies and equipment. Trump
lies about the availablity instead of trying to make it work for us all. It's time Trump
stops trying to pass the buck, and do his  job.

Trump and the GOP do not want to make voting safer in November. They are opposed
to mail in  voting, or extended absit T voting as well. They know in general republicans
are more likely to vote, so they do everything they can to make voting harder.  Because
they just don't have the numbers to  win in fair elections. Unless of course they run
someone who cares more about people than GOP policies, and they won't support
anyone like that.

A good sign is a possible leveling off of hospital admissions in the New York area.

The number of people infected in the U S is 368,000 and the number of deaths is over
10,800.  The number of recoveries is over 18,000.

World wide the number of infections is about 1,300,000 and the number of deaths is
over 74,000.  Also over 274,000 have recovered.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 08, 2020, 01:26:51 pm

210 days left.  We are seeing some flattening of the curve, but this isn't the time
to claim success. To do so will only cause a surge in the number of cases. Don't listen
to Trump, because he wants to see the economy rise for his own benefit, and the
public health means nothing to him, in spite of his lies.

Trump fired the man set up to oversee the use of the relief fund. Trump doesn't want
anyone looking  over his shoulder. He wants to use that money to benefit himself by
giving it to those who support him, and not to  those who don't. 

To Trump everything  is political, and when asked about mail in voting he claimed
there wouldn't be a single republican in office if it was easy for people to vote. This
of course is a stupid remark as  there are good people in the GOP. people who care
more about people than the money big business wants to offer them. Most of these
are staying quiet for fear of having Trump call them names on twitter. Trumps remark
does show what the GOP leadership believes. In that they must work to limit voting to
stay in  power. Power they will use to keep the rich rich and the poor poor.

Senator Sanders pulled out of the race for the Democratic nomination to run for
president today. I personally liked most of what Sanders wanted for the people
of our country. I am sure though he didn't want to  make it any easier for Trump by
staying in the race.  We should all  respect him for that.  This pandemic has made
an election year less predictable, and Trump will use everything in his power to
win, no matter how many people it hurts.  So all of those who supported  the
senator for president, should vote for Biden. If we don't Trump is sure to  win.

Trump will do his best to divide the Democrats  as he did in 2016.  He has already
tweeted that Sanders supporters should move to him.  Because  of how the
Democratic leadership treated them in 2016, and caused Sanders loss this
 time too.  Biden unlike Clinton is well liked by the party faithful. So his con
job won't likely get Trump very far this time around. Also Sanders supporters are
smart enough to see a con job when they see it. Also Trump has a dirty record to
drag him down. Something he didn't have last time.

Trump will continue to use his daily news conferences  as long as he can't have public
rally's.  It's a shame the news media feels they must sit and watch Trump spew his
lies and misleading statements. Much less broadcast them on TV.

The governor of  Washington  has done more to help limit the harm from the corona
virus than any other state. A man Trump called a snake early in February because he
didn't agree with his claim the virus was just the flu. Trump  badmouthed  the world
health organization. Yes they  made some mistakes, but this isn't  the time to discredit
a organization that does more good, than bad trying to  make himself look good.


The number of  peeple infected in the U S is almost 400,000, and  almost 14,000 deaths.

World wide the infected are  almost 1,300,000.  Deaths appear to be slowing .

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate.
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 09, 2020, 12:58:58 pm

209 days left and Trump is getting scared. The word is he is going to
start a briefing on the economy in addition to the virus briefing each
day.  I am sure it will be more lies to sift through, because Trump is
afraid the national economy is sliding into a recession if not a
depression. So he will do his best to lie his way out of trouble.

While its true millions of people are at home and not working, if Trump
convinces people to open businesses too soon. The corona virus will
surge once more. This isn't just a guess, because cities in the far
east have tried this and had a wave of resurgence  each time they
tried to open up their economy. Theirs wasn't too bad, but here
many people won't follow the rules once they leave home. 

People here will want to return to beaches, churches, theaters, and
restaurants. All of which will crowd people together.  Then after a couple
weeks many people will get sick and die again. All because Trump  is
worried he will loose his re election if the economy is still failing.

If you think not, just remember for people to go to work they must
commute. Riding together in trains and buses. Subways where people 
travel in crowds. This is just for workers. Then add people who travel
to stores for groceries, and other needed goods.  In all these cases it's
not easy to maintain separation from each other, and many won't even try.

This is why we must first setup testing for us all. It's the only real way
to know who is infected, and how to  track them when  it's needed. Just
checking for fever isn't enough. Not only that, I can imagine some people
getting mad if they can't enter a business because they have a slight fever.
So not wanting to lose a customer some will let them in anyway.

Until we have a vaccine or an effective treatment, people should have to
carry  proof they are virus free. Why? Because this disease is deadly to
many people.  Yes that would be a pain, but no different than needing
a license to drive.

I know a lot of people want to listen to and believe Trump. Some do because
he lives in the white house. But this man is deadly, and he doesn't care if you
or your family dies. He tries to make you think he does, but it's a lie, a dirty
 black lie. The worst part is the GOP sits back an lets Trump get by with it.
This makes them just as guilty as he is. 

Today Moscow Mitch is trying to pass a bill without considering the needs of hospitals and
local governments. He is doing this to give the Trump administration more money to play
with. Knowing the Democrats won't go along, he plans to make it look like the Democrats
don't care when they won't agree to a unanimous vote for a bill to help small businesses.
Just shows the lengths the GOP will go to help their rich friends.

Trump just can't get it through his  thick skull that he was elected to work for  all the people.
Not just those who like him. This is why he shouldn't be president. Because he doesn't care
for anyone but himself. He complains because the News media doesn't brag about him. He
complains when Democrats don't agree with him. Even when a GOP congressman fails to
go along with him, and will fire anyone who doesn't crawl on their hands and knees when
he demands it. Not exactly, but demanding  total loyalty  is the same thing.

The number of those infected in the U S is over 430,000 and is almost  15,000  deaths..
also over 18,000 reported recovers.

World numbers are over 1,300,000 and deaths nearly 75,000.



his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 10, 2020, 12:56:24 pm

208 days to go. As I thought , Trump is wanting to call it good by May 1.
The problem is Trump isn't the boss of this virus. It will be done when
it's ready. Not when Trump wants it done. Trump should be pushing to
have testing all across  this nation as quick as possible if he wants to
get the economy going by summer.  If he doesn't people will be hesitant
to leave home, much less get out to purchase goods.  I am sure most of
his cult will follow Trump stupidity, but the masses will not.

So by the middle of May a new surge will be under way if Trump decides to
open the economy May 1. Then the country will have to be shut down once
more with many thousands more to die.  We must get testing for all first, or
it will just go again and again with Trump leading the way.

Trump first heard about the Corona Virus in November of last year, and certainly
by December. Yet as usual he claimed to know better and discounted the reports.
Now he stands at his podium and claims he didn't know anything about it.  Just
lie after lie. This is how he does with anything he wants to deny. Just lie again and
again till people believe him. At least his cult does.

Trump is a first class con artist, so I fear many will believe his lies. So this virus
will likely be still a serious problem by November, and many won't want to stand
in lines created by the GOP to  vote.  Of course Trump's cult will, and there may
be enough to keep the GOP in power, and Trump in the white house. It would be
sad, but Trump may end up killing many of his followers by convincing them the
virus isn't that dangerous. 

Trump will likely use the excuse that most hot spots are  slowing  down, so we
should restart the economy. What is slowing the virus down is separation and
people staying home. But many health care workers are paying the price trying
to keep people from dying. Many of them are nearing burn out so if Trump plan
to reopen will put them even more at risk. This is why we must have nation wide
testing before any reopening of the economy. Then those found to be virus free
can safely open businesses and get out to work again.

Trump continues to claim there are more than  enough tests, but he won't answer
or tell where they are. He should be yelling at his people, asking why these test
they claim are out there, aren't being distributed. Instead he just keeps claiming
there are enough of them. Which is obviously a lie. He shouldn't be making the
claim there are enough when he hasn't the knowledge to say this in the first
place.

Trump and the GOP are wanting to use this crisis to pass pork barrel bills to buy
votes. They should be working with the Democrats to  help the people that need
the help. Not to please their big business friends who give them millions for their
re election. This happens time and time again. The GOP uses any excuse to help
their party and not the country. Then blame the Democrats when things go wrong.
Especially when the Democrats have to raise taxes to pay for GOP mistakes.
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The number of people infected in the U S is  over 460,000 and over 16,000 deaths.
Over 22,000 have been reported to have recovered.


World wide there have been nearly 1,500,000  people infected. and nearly 90,000  deaths.
Over a quarter of a million have recovered.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 11, 2020, 01:06:27 pm

207 Days to go.. It appears the GOP have plans to limit voting across the nation this fall.
Most likely just as they did in Wisconsin last Tuesday. One major city cut polling places
by over 100 claiming they couldn't get enough poll workers. Turns out this was a lie as
many people offered to do the job. But the GOP said NO.  Just more proof the GOP has
no interest in helping people vote. In fact they are working to limit voting every where
and anyway they can. Because they believe this will help them win elections.

This is in reality unconstitutional, but with the aid of conservative courts and  and now a
GOP controlled  supreme court they can get away with it. They learned  in the past, when
they didn't control the courts they were prevented from this cowardly act. So for decades
they have been working to load the courts with conservatives, something they  complained
the  Democrats were doing each time they put a moderate on a court.

The nation was created because the British King imposed taxes without representation.
Now the GOP is wanting to do the very same thing the King did. Run the country by their
decree. Not by the vote of the people. And their King is Trump. I have a hunch they are
going to use the corona virus to help them keep power. At least try to.

If we don't get out and vote in big enough numbers this fall they may very well  succeed.
The GOP, the party of the rich want to cut government as much as they can. To cut social
programs, in an attempt to lower taxes for the rich. It won't matter how many people get
sick and die. It won't matter how dirty the air and water gets. Because the rich will live
where the air and water is clean, while the rest of us live in filth. Just as people did during
the dark ages hundreds of years ago.

Trump wants us to believe he is for the country, but it's a lie. Where is Trump with people dying
in nursing homes across the country. Where are all the tests that could help protect these people.
You can be sure anyone that is near Trump is tested, and most likely the GOP leadership as
well. To hear Trump he just can't provide enough tests to  protect us all, or even health care
workers. When asked by the news media Trump still claims to know everything with the
details in his head. Just more of his lies. Trump is incapable of any empathy, no matter
what he claims. All he cares about is Donald J. Trump, and the GOP cares only to keep power.

This is why even though people of color are dying at a greater rate. You won't see Trump or
the GOP out to help prevent this. Because they only care about people who vote for them, and
not a lot about those who do.


The number of infected people in the U S is nearing 500,000.  Deaths are over 18,000.
Over 25,000  have been reported to have recovered.

World wide the corona virus has infected 1,600,000 and killed over 100,000.
Recoveries are over 300,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 12, 2020, 12:48:32 pm

206 days left, and Trump is trying to increase oil prices for the benefit of
our oil industry, and oil countries like Saudi Arabia ,and Russia. all which
have likely put money in his pocket or the pockets of family and friends.
I am sure people who haven't enough money for rent, will be happy to pay
more to gas up their car.

Isn't it interesting that Florida has gotten supplies and equipment when other
states have not. Could it be because they have a republican governor who
kisses up to Trump? We know that Trump helps those who he likes, and not
those he doesn't. And it matters not even if lives are at risk. It's all about
his ego, and nothing else.

Trump Bragged about how much the stock market went up, but does little to
help small business owners. Wall street is for the rich, and in most cases aren't
having money problems. While the small businesses may be gone if they can't
get help. I am not talking about a small business who has 100 employees, but
those who have 50 or less. They make up most of the small businesses in our
country. The other day the GOP tried to pass a bill giving the Trump administration
more money without oversight. They claimed it was for small businesses, but
without oversight  Trump would just give it to his friends, or those he liked.

It appears Trump is trying to use the corona virus to gain stronger support  from the
 evangelicals, by encouraging them to go to church where they will likely spread the
virus even more. Then of  course their leaders who wish to support Trump all they can,
tell their followers they should fill the churches  in defiance of the medical community,
because Trump said to do so, and he is the chosen one of god to save our country.

The sad thing is all those good church goers will spread the virus to others during
the week. Religion teaches people they should use the mind GOD gave them, and
not test the will of GOD by putting their lives at risk.

Trump continues to push for reopening the economy without increasing  testing.  Of
course Trump doesn't care, he just wants his strong economy  back. Even if it kills
a lot of people. It has been shown if separation and shelter in place is relaxed the
corona virus will return, perhaps even stronger than ever.

Trump wants to create a panel of people he likes, to supposedly help him decided
when and  how to open the economy. He  then said he would use his gut to make
the final decision.  This from a man who's gut sent him into 4 bankruptcies  So I
have a lot of doubts. But I am sure Trump wants to be able to claim this fall that
he saved the economy.

The number of people infected in the U S is  520,000, and the deaths exceed
20,000.  Those recovered are over 27,000.

World wide the number of infected is 1,700,000. The deaths are 108,000, and
the number recovered are almost 400,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 13, 2020, 01:26:17 pm

205 days and counting down  Trump is complaining that the Democrats are
blocking a relief bill to help small businesses, Of course he fails to mention
that the GOP is standing in the way to help hospitals, and local governments.
Not counting how much first responders, and healthcare workers need
supplies and money to pay for them. It's time Trump and the GOP stop
their political posturing and do their job. 

Trump and the GOP continue to push to privatize the Post office. The Post
office will likely run out of money in August of this year. Millions of people
and businesses depend on the Post office, but the GOP and Trump continue
to play games with it. According to the Post master general, they need about
15 billion dollars to cover the shortfall. Time will tell if we lose our mail along
with dealing with the corona Virus. Somehow I don't think that would help
Trumps election prospects. Much less the GOP.

People continue to ask when will it be over. Well Trump isn't going to end it.  It
will take testing to track this virus. Untill we hve a effective treatment an a
vaccine, it will continue to spread through out our population. With testing
we could at least slow the growth of this virus, but Trump doesn't want to
do anything but open up the economy. This will just spread the virus all
the faster without effective testing.

People may think now that the so called curve is leveling it's okay to go out and mix
with people again. This is wrong, because the slowing of the virus is due to  seperation
and staying at home. If people ended this the virus would spread quickly all over again.
People  must listen to medical men, and  not people like Trump who knows nothing at all
about medical science. Because Trump is already trying to say he knows better than
his surgen general.

The time may come when we have to decide either to take the risk of getting sick or not
opening the economy. Trump is putting the economy first and lives second. So it's going
to be up to individuals, and their ability to pay their costs of living to decide in the end.
We can hope andpray science will come up with a treatment or vaccine soon. The earliest
I have heard is a possiblevaccine by September. Don't depend on it though.

Our government must help nursing homes across the nation, or   we will lose many
many people who depend on them to live. Some might see them as expendable,
but these people have spent their  lives working to make our country waht it is,
and deserve the help they need.

The number of people infected in the U S  is over 560,000. and  over 22,000 deaths.
Also over 28,000  recoveries.  These numbers are probably not as high as they are
in reality because not everyone can be counted.

World wide  the number infected is up to 1,800,000, and the number of deaths is
over 115,000. The number of recoveries is about 500,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 14, 2020, 01:18:15 pm

204 days left and Trump is claiming his decision to stop air travel
saved thousands of lives. Perhaps it would have except he allowed
thousands of American citizens to return to the country. Many of these
people brought the corona virus back with them. One of the first infections
in my state was from a citizen that just returned from Italy. There is no
telling how many more did the same thing. So his claim is rather empty
at best. In fact Trump's overall response  likely caused thousands of
deaths. Because he claimed from the beginning that it was a lot about
nothing.

Trump has apparently ordered FIMA to grab medical supplies wherever
they find them. States have had truck loads of supplies basicly stolen
by FIMA. It would seem Trump is doing his best to make sure those
he supports get their supplies, even if he has to steal them.

One state has ordered their national guard troops to safeguard shipments
due to arrive from China. We can only wonder what might happen if Fima
was to show up and order the troops to stand aside. Hopefully if this does
happen it shows up on the national news.

This business where Attorney General Barr"s  declaration that Trump has the
power to do anything he feels right, is legal. Has given Trump the idea he has
unlimited power. This is unconstitutional, because each branch of government
has equal power. Of course in Trump's case the GOP have decided to support
Trump's claim, and now that the GOP controls the supreme court, they likely will
as well.

Now Trump is trying to bully governors across the nation. Claiming they aren't
following his orders. By opposing his decision to reopen the economy. Using this
excuse that he has total authority. Now he is tweeting they are trying to steal his
power by opposing him. Trump should realize this isn't about politics, it's lives.

The governor of South Dakota has decided to have these drugs that Trump
continues to support tested, to see if they are good to treat the corona virus.
Something Trump has failed to do. In some cases these drugs cause heart
problems, so studies must be done to see if they work and they are safe to use.

Test kits continue being hard to find, and Trump doesn't support massive testing. He
has been this way from the beginning. I really think he doesn't want the public to
know how many people are infected.  So now that the governors plan to improve
testing he is complaining about it.

The governor of Florida is apparently blocking the data that shows infections and
deaths in nursing homes throughout the state. Since we know this man sucks up to
Trump, it's likely because he was told to keep this secret. The last thing Trump
wants is bad news from Florida.

I think Trump and the GOP are beginning to feel pressure from their
voters, People are finding out that Trumps claims are false. So if
Trump and the GOP leadership don't  want to be behind the 8 ball
this fall, they best get their act together, and do their jobs. There
was a bit of a back track by Trump today in that he is now saying he
will work with the governors. Only time will tell.

The number of people infected in the U S is over 580,000 and deaths are over 23,000.
Recoveries are over 30,000.

World wide infections are over 1,900,000,  and deaths are over 120,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 15, 2020, 01:15:13 pm

203 days left. and Trump is cutting funding for the world health organization. Claiming
the did a bad job predicting the pandemic. When in fact it was China who first tried to
cover it up.  This is just another bad mark Trump has put on the reputation of the
united states. The W H O had done much over the years to protect the health of people
around the world. I am sure Trump expects to get praise from the far right. Even though
it will do much to harm the health of people around the world. This is just another attempt 
by Trump to cover up his  own mistakes, when he refused to take the corona virus
seriously early this year, and still refuses to follow medical guidance to limit  it's
spread across the nation.

Trump is incapable of admitting any mistake he makes. I have only seen him ad mitt
it once. When during his campaign he said he was wrong about Obama  not being a
citizen of the country. When he did you could see the pain it was causing him
to do it. It was likely because he had been told it was necessary  to win the
election. 

With Trump is all about him personally, never to benefit others,unless they pay him in
some manor, Either by praise, work, or financially. Much the same as a mob boss would.
Compromise isn't in Trumps vocabulary, It's yes, no, or nothing. So when he decided 
to cut funding for the W H O he didn't care that we may need them to work with other
country's on health issues. Help that  often benefits our people as well.

Also when we the U S step away from any world organization it opens a path to other
countries to step in, and they may not have our interests at heart.  Trump's complaint
about the W H O being too close to China, his actions only bring them closer.

Trump continues pushing for reopening the economy without increasing testing. To do
this will only help the virus spread. Testing is needed to track those who are infected.
Other methods like temperature checks help, but this virus doesn't always tell us when
it's infected someone enough to give them a fever.  Instead it takes tests to see if the
virus  is there.  If we don't the virus will jump from person to person, and we won't
know  until people show up sick from it.

The number of infected in the U S is 600,000, and over 30,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infected is over 2 million , and the number of
deaths is over125,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 16, 2020, 01:39:48 pm

202  days left and Trump is wanting to shutdown the senate so he can Appoint  federal
judges one right after another. This obscure  power he is  trying to use has nothing to do with
the pandemic. Instead it's likely a GOP plan to fill every federal judgeship while they have
control of the government.  Because this pandemic is getting in their way to do it otherwise.
And they likely know they will be out of power in 2021. This shows where there priorities are,
and it's not the public health.

Trump and his VP both promised there would be plenty of  tests and masks  in just a
few weeks. It's been over a month and nearly two months now, and testing and mass
are still in short supply. Turns out the white house got 3500 masks for their senior staff
almost immediately.  Yes  the white house should have protection, but this was done while
Trump was claiming we don't need masks.

I think Trump is running scared with the economy failing more each day. This is likely
why he is pushing to open the economy now, and not pushing for tests as he should
be. If he manages to get GOP governors to open up their states. We will likely see a
second wave of infections and deaths by early summer. And if we do, Trumps name
will be mud, and may drag the GOP down with him. 

Turns out when the GOP worked to pass the relief bill not long ago they worked hard
to include a one time tax cut for millionaires, and real estate tycoons like Trump and his
son n law.  This shows even during a pandemic the GOP worries  about not only their
rich friends, but their super rich friends. To the tune of 90 billion dollars.

It seems the governor of Florida  felt the sport of wrestling is needed
 for the public good. So he authorized real time TV coverage of matches.
Under investigation it appears a super pack of Trump was wanting this
to make millions to help Trump's election this fall.  Just more proof
Trump cares more about himself than the public good.

Trump is creating more  panels to study the reopening of the economy. 
Turns out most of the people he is appointing to these panels are some
of his corrupt friends looking to make a lot of money for Trump and
themselves.

Trump claims he has for the first time caused China to pay us money.
Well this is just one more of his many lies. Because these tariff are
costing Americans money, not China.

It appears Trump is doing his best to blame the news media and the
Democrats  for the damage to the economy. He wants his  people to
think it's the reason for all the loss of jobs. So rich GOP supporters
are organizing demonstrators to cause traffic jams and disrupt
state and local governments controlled by Democrats.

Thousands of people in nursing homes are becoming victims
of the corona virus. And a nursing home in New Jersey  was
found to have several dead bodies that were  unreported.
This should make every person with a relative in a nursing
home very concerned. People should be asking Trump why
he is only talking about the economy,  and not working to
save lives.

The number of infected in the U S is over 600,000  and deaths over 30,000.
Those recovered are over 30,000.

Around the world over 2 million  have been infected. and over 135,000 have died.
Almost 600,000 have recovered.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 17, 2020, 12:54:04 pm

201 days to go. and Trump lays out a 3 step plan to restart the economy. This
may sound good, but we need testing testing testing before people will feel
safe enough to leave their homes. The problem with this virus is that  people
don't always have symptoms while they can still spread the virus. Even if a
test shows someone to be virus free, they can be infected a day or so later.
Perhaps even sooner.

The only test that shows someone to be safe for a while is the one that checks to
see if you have the antibodies, that shows you have recovered from the disease
Even then we still don't know how long a person is protected from reinfection.

The antibodies test is what needs to  be done for people needing to return to work.
This is the test that needs to be replicated across the nation, and until it is, most
people won't feel safe to leave their homes. Though many will have to, if they are
to make a living, or to take care of necessary business.

Trump is making the claim that people die from many other things in life, so why be so
concerned about this corona virus. Well I would tell him we make choices for many of
those things that are dangerous, and a disease that kills isn't usually one of them. Also
I am sure Trump is taking every precaution to keep himself virus free, while telling the
rest of us not to worry.

Trump decides to pass the buck to the states, this in it's self is a relatively  good idea ,
but where is the funding?  Like we people, states can't spend money they don't have. 
So the federal government must come up with the money. Otherwise every thing will
grind to a halt.

Trump claims he will wack every hot spot that opens up. Well just what is he going to use
for a stick? He hasn't setup any testing to find those infected, or a network of trained people
to find those the infected person may have infected.  Trump continues putting the cart before
the horse. To open the economy, preparations must be made.  Otherwise  we will have wave
after wave of infections, and deaths.

The supporters of Trump who are going out to demonstrate are just going to make things worse.
Just because they don't want to  believe  anyone but Trump, won't protect them or their families
from the virus.  Even innocent people they may be in contact with. We must stand together or many
may get sick and many could die. If this disease wasn't such a killer it would be different, but it is,
and until we have a effective treatment or vaccine we must work together, or the economy will
continue to stagnate into a full blown depression.

The number of people infected in the U S is almost 700,000, and the deaths are nearly 33,000.
and about the same have recovered.

world wide the infections are over 2,100,000 , and deaths are over 130,000.
recoveries  are over 1/2 million.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 18, 2020, 01:16:12 pm

200 days left, and our frightened president is encouraging his followers to put
their lives at risk for his benefit. Trump isn't out there shoulder to shoulder putting
his health at risk. No, he is standing in front of TV cameras feeding anyone who
will listen misleading claims and lies. All those people who are out demonstrating
for Trump's benefit should understand, they are being used by people who care
not for them, but for their own benefit. Yes the super rich are  behind this, and are
happy to put the lives of Trump's followers at risk.

Down through history it's been the super rich who send people off to war, or to
work for their benefit while  convincing the poor they must put their lives at
risk to save their way of life which is usually only an existence  living. While
the rich continue to prosper at the poor's expense. This will continue as long
as the people allow it. The sad thing is the super rich work hard to keep
this way of life the same. Even education in schools is designed to  mislead
the masses so they won't kick those who wish to keep power out.

The rich lead the poor with the promise of gaining wealth, a dream that
generally fails, while the rich continues their promises generation after
generation. They do this because they know human nature drives
most people with the desire to be rich, and this desire is much
the same as a carrot held in front of a mule to get him to follow.
Of course humans are much smarter, but have similar  failing, and
the ruling class use this to their advantage.

The super rich will continue to do this as long as they can con the
public into believing them. This is what Trump has been doing
ever since he started running for the office of president. And
will continue till he is removed.  Unlike most con artists he
isn't smart enough to hide his desires, but he found a  need
the public wanted, so he was able to build a following who can't
see or want to see any farther  than his promises, which are
mostly lies.

People need to understand the GOP doesn't want to help the
hospitals, local governments, small businesses  or governors.
This is why they won't work with the Democrats, because to
do so would help the public needs.

So Moscow Mitch stands in front  of the senate and lies
when he claims he wants to help small businesses.  Otherwise
he would do so. But he and Trump want to mislead the public
into thinking only the GOP cares. As Obama said the other
day. The GOP is only interested in power, and will only
help those who help them keep it.

So far there isn't any treatment that will successfully  cure
everyone, but in some cases there have been treatments that
have seemed to work. I think this disease affects different
people differently. Perhaps. even depending on their
genetic makeup. I say this because a pair of 80 year
old twins survived  on a ship where many didn't. And
we know twins have identical genetics.

The number of  people infected in the U S  is about 700,000,
and deaths are over 36,000.

The number world wide is 2,200,000  and  deaths are over 150,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 19, 2020, 12:56:05 pm

199 day's left , and Trump continues to play the claim credit the for good,
and blame others for his mistakes game. Now he is encouraging his supporters
to oppose governors who are trying to save lives. We can only wonder what he
will use for an excuse when these victims of his get sick.

Reports are most of these demonstrators  are white upper middle class supporters
of Trump. Most of which are doing well, and may not have even been eligible for
the 1200 dollar relieve check. I am sure some may be hurting for money, but a lot
of people are.  If we don't stand together against this virus. We are all going to lose.
It no time to let Trump push us into a political fight with leaders who are working for
our own good. Because Trump cares only for himself,, and if you think he cares for
you as a supporter, your sadly mistaken.

The people that Trump put on  his panel to  reopen the economy are almost all rich
big business people. We need people on that panel that understand the needs of small
businesses,  Not a bunch of big shots that have little understanding about what it's like
 to have a small bank account.  Most small businesses haven't got enough money to last
more than a few weeks, and some even less. Yet the GOP and Trump either don't care or
aren't smart enough to  figure it out. I have a hunch it's that they don't care about
people who can't afford to hand out huge sums to  keep the GOP in power.

People need to remember Trump considers the rich winners  and those who aren't losers.
And when I say rich it's multi millionaires, , not the upper middle class Because to Trump
if you have to  ask how much something is, your a loser.

Yes some parts of the country are improving, but without good testing to reopen would
be a mistake. Because this virus given a chance will come back. Control is the only answer
until we have a good treatment, or a vaccine.  It won't matter how many people want to
believe Trumps misleading lies. This virus isn't going anywhere soon, and to follow Trump
is a terrible decision for us all, and the country too.

The number of people infected in the U S is over 730,000, and the deaths are over 36,000.

World wide infections are over 2,300,000  and deaths are over 158,000

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 20, 2020, 01:03:25 pm

198 days left. Trump and the GOP complain about  cost when the Democrats
want to help states, hospitals, local governments , and workers. Yet  when the
GOP and Trump want to help big business price is no object.

Trump talks about the economy being more valuable than peoples lives, but
if people don't have the money to spend there is no economy, no matter
what king Trump claims. The federal government has a virtual unlimited
amount of money. So they could fund the economy if needed til this virus 
is taken care of. But the GOP and Trump won't, or don't want to do it. 

They won't do anything big business is against, because the super rich owners
want to continue filling their pockets with money, and they own the GOP and
Trump.  When the GOP finally  agreed to give small businesses money, you can
be sure the rich law  firms and accounting companies jumped at the chance to
get all they could, even though  most of them didn't need any of it.  You can
be sure the GOP made sure there wasn't any restrictions to keep rich businesses 
from grabbing money before the little guy could.

If the states are allowed to go bankrupt, millions more workers will be out
of a job. The same with hospitals and local government.  So unless the
GOP and Trump fund them, the economy will continue to  fail. Hopefully
the GOP and Trump will wake up and do what is needed, or millions of
people will suffer and wait in long lines for food, or starve. Also farmers
won't be able to afford to even grow the foods we need.  Trump has the
power to  make food available under emergency funding for the states. 
But he refuses to  do it. So it's likely many people including  kids will go
hungry while the GOP and Trump do nothing,  but blame others for their
problems.

We may end up  wishing we still received those big sears catalogs because
toilet paper is  going to be hard to  find. There is even a risk the post office
will have to shut down for lack of money, and the GOP and Trump are doing
nothing about it.  In fact Trump is wanting to punish them because they
wouldn't break their shipping contract with Amazon.' Because Trump was
mad because the Washington Post paper wrote unfavorable stories about
him. And that newspaper is owned by Amazon.

The far right and conservatives news claim this virus isn't killing enough
people to warrens the shut down of the economy. The numbers they claim
are for a year where the numbers for the virus is just 2 months.  So their
excuses are misleading and even lies.  One example is about traffic deaths.
They claim only about 45,000 for that verses those killed by the virus. Well
will just over 2 months the virus has killed about 40,000. If you drag that
out to a year your looking at about 500,000 deaths. Just a bit more than
what they are claiming. Something I hope we don't have to point out this
time next year.

These misleading claims are causing people to go out and demonstrate. Putting
their lives and others  at risk. Trump should be telling people to stay home, but he
wants the economy back for his benefit, no matter who it hurts. If these people want
to work. They should be asking Trump  for the tests that are needed to allow it. But
no, they only want to follow Trump and his lies. Apparently because he tells them
what they want to hear.

The number of people  infected  in the U S is  over 750,000, and the number of  deaths
are over 40,000.

World wide the number affected by the covis19 is over 2,300,000 and deaths are over 160,000.

Sweden decided to let the virus run wild, and their death raid is running very high compared
to their neighbors.  Trump seems to think this is a fine idea instead of closing an economy.
I kind of doubt he would feeel this way if he was in a hospital with a tube rammed down his
windpipe to keep him alive.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 21, 2020, 01:00:16 pm

197 days to go, and Trump is wanting to blame all immigrants for spreading the
corona virus by stopping all immigration. This is going to make little difference
as just about all immigration is stopped now. It's likely Trump is just wanting  to
distract from his incompetence  Because he  has no idea how to deal with the
pandemic, and wants to hide this fact.  All he knows how to do is sell himself,
and use everyone else for his own benefit.

As I said these people who are out demonstrating are only hurting themselves
and all those doctors, nurses, and first responders who are trying their best to
keep this virus from killing people.  I don't really blame them as much as I do
the far right and conservative media who are pushing people to do this, and
obviously they have no shame in their support of the GOP who has been
corrupted by Trump.

It appears the GOP doesn't want to help the states with the latest bill they
are working on. I am sure the Democrats are doing their best to add money
for states, but so far the GOP won't do it.  Apparently because Trump is
against  it, and they don't want to put Trump in the position where he
would want to veto the whole bill. Which would hurt millions of people.

Some of the southern, and mid western states are wanting to open up businesses.
Not just essential  ones, but Gyms, clothing stores, massage parlors, bowling alleys,
and restaurants.  It's likely by the middle of May, these states are going to see a big
increase of infections and hospitalization of people. All to please our corrupt president
who fears a recession will cause him to lose his election. 

These GOP governors are putting their own voters at risk, and if they continue trying to
please Trump, thousands of GOP voters will get sick and many may die. Not only that
they will spread it to others. Politics has no place in the middle of a pandemic, but
Trump and the GOP seem to not care.

It seems for the first time ever the far right and conservatives are speaking well of
Sweden. Why? Because they didn't shut down their economy over this virus. Over
the last few weeks they have been talking about how much better there decision
was.  Even though Sweden has the highest number of deaths by far per capita 
that their neighboring countries.  This is just an excuse  to give cover for Trump and
GOP governors who wish to open the economy early. The far right and conservatives
get much of their support from the super rich, so it's no wonder why they support such
stupid ideas in support of the economy.

The GOP continue to push to have private businesses handle much of the testing and
supplies of masks and equipment. They don"t support the president forcing businesses
to provide such things. As is private industry is making out like pirates by allowing them
to volunteer. Charging many times as much for the medical supplies as  they should. It's
just more of the same. The GOP is always the friend of big business and to aid them to make
more and more money, at the expense of everyone else.

Science is telling us that this virus will be with us till we have a vaccine, and viable treatment.
This is predicted to take many many months inspite of the wishes of Trump and the GOP. In
fact it may take years before we can keep it under control with vaccinations. In the meantime
we will have to learn a new way of living to survive with a good economy.

The number of infections in the U S is 780,000, and deaths are over 42,000.
Recoveries are reported to be over 60,000.

World wide the infections are 2,400,000, and deaths  are nearing
180,000.  Recoveries near 700,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 22, 2020, 01:24:32 pm
196 days left and counting. Trump has claimed he is all for the military from
the beginning. So why are VA hospitals having to ration masks and other supplies
for their health care workers? Oh the VA is denying this, but those working in the
health care facilities say their aren't getting the supplies they need for their
safety and those they are caring for.

The kind of testing we need is the kind that tells us if we have immunity, not just
wither we have the virus or not. Because this disease infects others without showing
symptoms of those infected. Some are claiming this disease isn't dangerous enough
to require people to stay home. What these people don't realize is this disease is
quick to infect, and can quickly overwhelm our health care system with hundreds of
victims.

Some claim this virus isn't killing any more than the Flu does. Even if this was true
it's the infection rate and deaths it causes is what we have to worry about. The flu
only affects  .1% where the corona virus affects several times as many or more under
the same conditions.  This is why separation and staying at home is so important
while we are  waiting for a  treatment or proper testing.  Yes, numbers of deaths
and infections are dropping in  places, but it's due to our separation, not  because
the virus is less infectious.

While it is true people need to  work, so they can pay their bills. But if we open
the economy to soon, it will just make things worse. Businesses who have large
numbers of employees or customers, will have to figure out a way to keep them
safe, or they won't be able to stay open.

It appears federal legislation is being passed  to aid hospitals, and more small
businesses, but none to help states and local governments. This will lead to
tens of thousands laid off by state and local governments. It was a battle
to get the GOP to do this much. This crisis needs continuing aid for the country
and  our people. Not a month by month political rat race. But the GOP only
wants to  do it this way because they might spend too much, and we know
they don't want  to do that, especially for people they don't like.

Trump and the GOP are the worst  people to be in charge  of any emergency.
Especially a pandemic. Because they want to do everything as cheap as possible.
Even for the public health. All they care about is getting rich and the power it
brings them.

The far right and conservative news are trying to convince  people that this corona
virus is going away, because they   want Trump to look good. A man they can lead
around  by the nose,  because he thinks they will get him re elected. So he will
do just about anything they want.

Trump continues to act  like he is working hard for the country , but he spend
much of his time watching the news. He uses a DVR so he won't miss any of it.
Because he wants to see who brags on him and who doesn't. Because to Trump
his image is very important. Because to him his TV appearances  are a reality
show, and he is the star.

Reports are the GOP and Trump plan to attack Joe Biden on his work in the past
with China. As we know Trump has claimed China has been allowed to take advantage
of us economically. So expect to see ads trying to blame Biden for this.

The number of people infected by the corona virus is overt 800,000 here, and the number
of deaths is over 45,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 2,500,000 and deaths are nearing 180,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 23, 2020, 01:10:00 pm

195 days left. the federal house of representatives will be voting today to pass
another relief bill, and Trump said he would sign it. The bill has money for
small businesses, hospitals, and tests. Unfortunately this bill isn't enough
as the money for businesses will be used almost immediately. Also there
isn't any money to help people with ongoing expenses for rent, food, and
other needs. By the way our senate leader said, Let the states and  cities
go bankrupt. Now isn't that nice of him. This will  put thousands more out
of work, which will hurt even more businesses, and fill the streets with
uncollected garbage. Not counting loss of fire and police protection. 

As usual the GOP has lots of money for big business, but little or none for
the public need. I have a hunch this will come back to bite the GOP this
fall, and our corrupt president as well.

Speaking of our president. A doctor who was in charge of find a vaccine for this
virus was removed because he spoke out against using drugs that Trump was
promoting. He wasn't even doing this publicly, but apparently Trump found out
and as usual wanted him punished. More proof that Trump doesn't care for
anyone but his self  and his image.

Both Trump and the GOP leadership need to  be thrown out  of office, if for nothing
else, the good of the country. Also there is plenty of evidence that the demonstrators
across the country are supporters of Trump and  led by the far right, and conservative
super rich who are afraid the economy will  turn into a recession. unless it can be
 restarted. right away. Of course they want to protect Trump as well.

This act driven by greed may end up sending the economy into a depression instead.
Because unless people are very careful, opening up the economy too soon will cause 
a second wave of infections. There are still about 300 million people who are  at  risk.
Some GOP governors are allowing beauty salons, barber shops, massage parlors, and
other businesses that require close contact with customers to open. Oh they are supposed
to be careful by using masks and gloves. Well I can tell you this may sound good, but in
practice, people make mistakes, and some just won't follow the rules. So we can expect
another infection peak in these states.

In Nevada  there is pressure to open the Las Vegas  casinos. There isn't anyway to maintain
separation in a business like those. Everything depends on interaction between people. Even
slot machines are continuously handled by different people, and are set side by side.  Not
counting the fact that people across the nation, and the world come a go from these places.
I really can't see how they would be anything but a breeding ground for the virus, affecting 
thousands of people.

The number of people infected in the u s is at least 830,000, with over 48,000 deaths.

World wide the infections are over 2,600,000. and deaths over 180,000.

Many people have recovered , but without proper testing it's hard to  say how many.
Hopefully testing will improve in the U S, and world wide. Because until we have a
vaccine it's going to spread everywhere.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 24, 2020, 01:11:08 pm

194 days left, and Trump is making irresponsible claims, or suggestions about the
treatment  of the corona virus. Using UV light on your self will give you a sun burn,
and possibly skin cancer if you use it for an extended period. Soap and water works
better by far for the skin. His suggestion of injecting sanitizer into the body might
kill the virus, but it will likely kill you as well.

Of course Trump is denying it now. Claiming the media is misrepresenting him,
which is a lie. What he said was clearly shown on TV. It's time he stops thinking
out loud, because his thoughts show his stupidity.

Trump continues to act like a coffee shop politician, or bar fly know it all. He doesn't
seem to understand, or even care that his words as president can cause people to
take is words seriously. Even when his statements are dangerous if followed. Doing
this could end up killing some of his followers and others.

These close contact businesses are putting themselves at risk of being sued if their
customers end up sick or dying.  Also using sanitizers in a close environment is risky
if done very often. Their vapors can damage the throat and lungs over time, and cloth
masks will do little to prevent this.

I know businesses need to open, but putting ones self or their customers at risk is a bad
idea, and a good way to be closed permanently. Things or businesses can be replace, but
lives can't.

When Moscow Mitch said let states and local governments go bankrupt, Well this won't
fly any farther than a big rock. Because there would be an immediate sock market crash if
they did. Especially the bond market which depends on cities being solvent. So I have a
hunch he would love to take those stupid words back. It's past time the GOP and yes, Trump
too, stop playing politics with this pandemic.

Sadly the covid19 virus  is killing large numbers of people in nursing homes and long care
facilities. Yet the GOP or Trump fail to provide adequate medical supplies and equipment to
protect nurses and other workers in them. Not counting the people they care for. These people
are apparently meaningless to the GOP and Trump, since most of them are unable to vote.

Also tens of thousands of people in prison and those who work there are at risk, and rank
high in numbers of infections. Not just prisoners, but those working there. and they take
the virus home to family and friends. These people need the same concern as anyone
else. Yet many states seem to have little concern for them, or even those who work
there.

Trump is against funding the post office, claiming they should increase their shipping
charges to Amazon. This mad he has against Amazon just shows he is putting his ego
ahead of the public good. Because Amazon has a legal contract the post office agreed
to, and Trump can't change that.


The number of infections in the U S is nearing 900,000, and deaths are over 50,000.

World wide there have been over 190,000 deaths from the corona virus.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 25, 2020, 01:13:44 pm

193 days left, and Trump is wanting to delay the presidential election.
This is interesting because he encouraged Wisconsin to not delay their
primary election. Because he and the GOP felt a delay might cost them
a seat on the state supreme court. Turns out they lost it anyway. I am
sure this desire by Trump and the GOP is in hope it will help his chances
to be re elected. Not the health of the people.

The second relief bill was signed by Trump. The problem is this bill did
nothing to aid the states. Or nothing to help the post office, or nothing
to set up mail in voting. The GOP and Trump continue to claim they will
look at  it next time, but it's likely next time will never show up in the
opinion of  Moscow Mitch or Trump.

Moscow Mitch made the comment that the federal government  shouldn't
bail out Democratic states. Yet many of these states send more money to
the federal government than they ever receive. Turns out Mitches own state
of Kyntucky receives more money from the federal government than they
ever send in. So why doesn't he tell his own state he must cut their aid?
Of course it's always fine if he and Trump like a state that gives them
political support.

The state of Georgia is starting to reopen close contact businesses  even
though infection numbers are still climbing, the governor  is out trying to
help his boss Trump by trying to open Georgia's  economy. He and other
GOP governors are working to keep  Trump in the white house, even if it
kills people. Because the GOP will do anything to keep political power.

This slow down of the economy strikes at the heart of the GOP, because
it's always their claim that they create jobs, and cut taxes. This pandemic
is making both of these claims almost impossible for them to do.  You can
be sure if the Democrats retake power, and increase taxes, the first thing
the GOP will say. We told you the Democrats would raise your taxes.  It
doesn't matter if it's necessary, because the GOP wants to cut government
programs, mainly for the needy, and do all they can to help the rich. Because
they believe helping the rich will help everyone. This believe in trickle down
economics,  has been proven wrong for years, but they still cling to it. Or
at  least claim to. 

Immunity to the corona virus is still an unknown. There are studies in China
that show people who have recovered have immunity, but so far how long it
lasts is an unknown. All this makes testing all the more important, as well as
protection for the care givers. Yet Trump and his cronies continue to make false
claims they are making testing and supplies more available.

There are reports that Trump may scale back his daily news conferences.
conferences that are more like political rally's than news. Only time will tell
as we know Trump loves to think his TV chats are giving him political benefit.
Only thing when they drag out past 2 hours, Trump starts to rant, and make
claims that make him look rediculous. Also I kind of doubt if a lot of people
sit infront of the TV for over 2 hours just to listen to Trumps comments.

I hate to think how many kids were watching when Trump was making his
dangerous comments about ingesting cleaning liquids for virus protection.

It appears some cats are affected by the covis19 virus. So far there doesn't
seem to be any evidence they can give it to humans near them. One Dog in
China apparently had the infection. So far no cat has been reported to have
died from the virus. The best precaution is if your sick it's best to let
someone else care for your pet. Also if your walking your dog, try to
keep it away from other dogs or cats, and humans.

The number of infections in the U S have topped 1 million, and the number of
deaths are almost 52,000.



world wide the infections are over 2,800,000, anddeaths are over 190,000.
recovery's are over 700,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 26, 2020, 01:18:48 pm

192 days to go, and Trump is apparently going to spend less time doing his
news conference rally's. I have a hunch after his statement asking why not
ingest cleaning fluids and exposing ones self to a strong UV light, something
most children have been taught not to do, was likely read the riot act by the
far right. Because it made him look like a fool, and any more of this stupidity
would keep him from being re elected.  The last thing the far right wants is
another  Democrat in the white house.

Turns out after Trumps statement about the ingestion of cleaning fluids,
hundreds called poison  centers to see if this was safe. Just to prove
many people want to believe what a president tells them. If people had
ingested these fluids there would have been many deaths across the
country. Also many with severe burns to their throats and stomachs.
Trump should be begging for forgiveness instead of trying to deny his
own words.

There is a lot of pressure by the rich to reopen the economy. Many of
them are supporters of Trump and the GOP. Yes many people are feeling
the pain of needing money with bills mounting and the lack of food.
This is why the federal government needs to support more people
by  preventing utility cut offs, and having loans called in among other 
expenses, until people can  work safely once more.

All this goes against the grain for the GOP, and it's like pulling teeth
to  get any of them to agree with staying loan payments. I am sure
most want to say it's bad business to allow non payments of loans.
What many of them don't understand is that people are their business,
not repossession, and putting people on bread lines. Much less forcing
them out of their homes.

Once people are sick and homeless , they are hard to employ, and
are more of a drain on society than public support would be in the
first place. Something the GOP just can't seem to understand. It
took a war to pull us out of the depression of the 1930's. I fear
if it happens again it will take a very long time to pull out of this
one, along with the pandemic. With Trump's ineptitude, and the
GOP's stubbornness, it will be a long slow grind.

We can only wonder where we will be by the middle of May. With
several states deciding to open their economy we are likely in for
another spike of infections in a few weeks. Some people feel this
virus is going away, but it's due to people staying home and out of
crowds.  If businesses don't enforce separation and limit customers
this virus will take off again. Even the use of cleaning agents in
excess is a hazard to our health. So businesses that have confined
work areas could be in trouble. Also this virus infects through the
air we breathe more than what we touch.  It has been shown the
virus can remain in the air for up to 3 hours. So  wearing masks is
very important.

Testing for the virus is important to control it. Especially for businesses
who have large numbers of employees. Because this virus is so sneaky
it can be spread from someone who has no symptoms.

The number of infections in the U S is nearing 1 million, and the number
of deaths are over 53,000.

World wide the infections are over 2,800,000 , and number of deaths are over
200,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 27, 2020, 12:54:37 pm

191 days left, and several GOP governors are allowing more businesses to
open. Reports are showing several people on the streets. and last Friday
there were lines of people wanting hair care from barber shops and beauty
salons in Georgia. All this is in reality a test to see if it causes a significant
spread of the corona virus. It seems the GOP is willing to put peoples lives
at risk for their own benefit.

Again Trump shows his indifference for the health of those in the military,
or anyone else for that matter. Because he is requiring the cadets of
west point to return just to listen to a speach of his. A speach that
is likely to be more political than anything else. It's a good possibility
that this could spread the corona virus to the families of said cadets,
but Trump just wants another chance to brag about how great he is.

All these openings may work out, but I very much doubt if people
continue to follow the rules after a week or two. Or can businesses
survive with fewer customers. I have a hunch some people are going
to not like having to wait out side so they can get a beer, a cup of coffee,
or have lunch. This will grow to aggravate a lot of people very fast.
Especially the  followers of Trump who think the virus isn't a big deal.

Yes, about 80% don't get seriously ill from this virus, but
putting the rest of us at risk is wrong. What we need is proper
testing, and a network of workers to follow up infections. That
way those found to be infected can be quarantined. This way
businesses can stay open and most people can do their jobs
without spreading the  virus to the overall population. Those
quarantined could be provided food and money and have their
job protected. This would be much cheaper than closing down
the economy.


This is needed to protect the vulnerable in our society, while
protecting our economy as well. Sadly people of color and
native Americans are at greater risk. This is because these
people generally have to live in homes without enough room
and can't afford proper health care, much less medicine. The
same goes for a lot of elderly people living on social security.
Where the rising costs cause them to not have the medicine
they need.

The problem is Trump and the GOP want to try the same
thing Sweden is doing. Suggesting  people stay home if
sick and not crowd together, while expecting the population
will gain an natural immunity to the virus. This may sound
like a good idea, but it doesn't give any protection to vulnerable
people. Who in Sweden are dying in significantly greater
numbers than in the nearby countries. 

One big problem with this herd immunity idea is so far there
isn't any solid evidence that people will only get this disease
once. It is possible this will start again this fall making the
same people sick once more. Hopefully not with the same
severity. Untill there is a treatment or vaccine we will have
to chase infections and quarantine.

This idea where the GOP want to privatize everything, telling
the hungry to beg for food, and the sick to die goes against
the majority of Americans. This is likely why Trump said allowing
everyone to vote would prevent the GOP from holding office.
Because if the greater majority did vote many GOP members
would be out. All the GOP would need to do is show a bit of
compassion, and many would still be elected.

The number of people infected in the US is about 1 million, and the
number of deaths are over 55,000.

World wide over 2,900,000 have been infected, and deaths are over 200,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 28, 2020, 12:58:50 pm

190 days to go. Trump claims he is all for the military, so why did he
allow FIMA to prevent the VA from getting 5 million protective masks
for their workers. Masks to prevent infection of nurses doctors and
the patients in VA hospitals?

Even though thousands of workers in meat processing plants have been
infected. Tests are unavailable for them.  seemingly after it was found
a large percentage were  found infected, promised tests were stopped.
Apparently Trump is continuing his desire to hide the number of
infections when and where he can. Perhaps so his push to reopen
the economy will appear to be proper.

Trump is still trying to talk his way out of his troubles, claiming
the economy will bounce back even stronger than before by the
4th quarter, and even better next year. This is nothing but a
fantasy by Trump. 26 million and growing are unemployed, and
thousands of small businesses will likely be bankrupt before the
summer is over, because this early opening of businesses without
 proper testing or tracking of infections will very likely cause a
second  wave of this covid 19 virus. Already one business every
hour of every day are closing permanently.

Trump is even threatening to sue any state  that fails to reopen
their economy. There apparently isn't any limit to what he will do.

This madness by Trump is going to catch up with him, and the
sad part is how many people will have to suffer in the process.

Not only this, but many many businesses are unable to get the
emergency loans promised by the federal government, and a lot
of those will go bankrupt if they can't.

One would think the GOP would wake up, but  it seems they are
willing to sink or swim with Trump, and if things go as bad as they
appear they will , Trump will drag the GOP down with him. 
Because  he will never change, and will  try to put the blame
on everyone but himself.

A second navy ship has infected sailors, and is heading for California
hoping to clear the ship of the infection. Our military could end up
with quite a few members suffering before this virus is dealt with,
and Trump needs to do more than try to cover it up.


Farmers, rather than throwing their produce away are offering
what they can't sell to people willing to come for it. The governor
of New York is having milk hauled in to the city rather than
seeing it dumped.

Thousands of people across the nation are doing what they
can to help where they can. Making masks, nurses traveling
to hot spots, and delivering food and medicine to those
unable to go for it. All these Americans are better than
Trump  ever has been or ever will be.

The public after weeks of confinement are wanting to get out and
resume jobs, and normal activities. This is understandable, but if
we ignore science and the medical community, It's likely to cause
an even greater trouble for society. Yes, younger people seem to
do better, but there is no guarantee they won't be affected. The
youngest to die was less than one year old. Some might feel we
and hospitals have learned how to manage this virus, but we must
remember those health care workers, nurses, doctors, first responders
are worn out, physically and psychologically.  A doctor committed
suicide apparently because they couldn't live with what they saw and
had to do over the last several weeks. Also many have said they will
have to quit. So with a second wave we may not have the care that will
be needed.

If we don't test, track and quarantine people this virus will
continue to spread, and many more will die.  Properly done
most people can work, with many businesses open while
we wait for a treatment and vaccine.

The number of people infected in the U S is likely over 1 million and
deaths are over 57,000.


World wide the number of infections are over3 million,  and deaths
are over 200,000.


his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 29, 2020, 01:05:56 pm

189 days left, and Trump orders meat plants to reopen, not just that,
the workers are ordered to work as well. I must admit, I enjoy having
meat to eat, but we can live without it. It wouldn't be fun, but forcing
people to put their lives at risk to provide it is wrong. Reports are
showing workers aren't happy about Trump telling them to work.
Demonstrators of Trump have complained about their rights being
curtailed by states, so what about Trump stepping on meat workers
rights?

In states who are telling businesses to reopen, those businesses are
in most cases trying to provide protection to their customers. Even
this isn't likely to give good protection, because some people will
crowd in due to a lack of patience, and some don't believe it's a
big deal anyway.  It will be interesting if we have another wave
of infections in a few weeks. Will people stop showing up? Only
time will tell.

Trump continues trying to hide the number of infections where
ever he can. The VP showed up at hospitals bare faced, with the
excuse he wants people to look at his face. It's likely because
Trump doesn't want him to wear one, and Trump doesn't want
to be seen with his face covered.

Trump has ordered investigations claiming China and the
World Health organization were hiding the facts about the
corona virus from him. This is just Trump trying to cover the
fact that he was trying to hide it from the public instead.
Because he was afraid it would be bad for his precious
stock market. Trump, as a con artists wants two things.
Loyalty, and secrecy. This is why he tries to hide what
he does, and lies  about everything he can't hide. Then
everyone he hires  must do the same, or he will get rid
of them.

The conservative media continues to lie about the corona
virus. Trying to convince their audience that Trump is right
and everyone else is wrong. Even science and the medical
community is wrong to hear them talk. This attempt to play
politics with peoples lives is disgusting.  If we had been
attacked by Iran and 60,000 lives had been lost, you
can be sure they would be raising the roof. instead
of saying it's not a big problem as they call this virus.

Trump is claiming there will be 5 million test a day very
soon. This when testing isn't even 200,000 a day now. It's
likely just Trump wanting people to think he is doing a great
job with claims he can't back up with any facts. In fact the
recommended number per day would be 20 million. I will
be surprised if there is 5 million by June, and Trump may
still want to hide the real numbers.

We as a country need to be more prepared to deal with pandemics.
The Obama administration had plans in work, but Trump with his
hate for Obama got rid of the plan. Not only that he has removed
regulations that would help protect the public from companies
trying to provide testing and medical devices that don't work well.

The only way we can work to  protect the public from improper
allowances for big business is to get rid of Trump and GOP
control. As is they will continue working for big business, and
not for the public good.

Each time there is a news conference at the White House Trump can't
keep his nose out of it. Acting like he knows everything, even to  block
those who do know, there at the conference, from speaking.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1 million and deaths
are about 60,000.

World wide infections are over 3,100,000 and deaths are over 216,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers report too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 30, 2020, 01:20:01 pm

188 days to go and reports are Trump is planning to go on the road again.
I wonder how many of his followers are ready to stand in a huge crowd
just to listen to their big mouth leader? After all there would be a good
chance they will catch the corona virus if they do. don't worry about
Trump. You can be sure he doesn't get near anyone who hasn't been
tested at least a dozen times.

It was reported when Trump heard he was behind Joe Biden in battleground
states, he had a  cussing fit. Which continued for 3 days. Calling this lies and
bad mouthing the  people who told him the facts, and even a threat to sue
one of them. Of course he denied it all.

In a rally We can be sure Trump will brag about a quick recovery to the
economy, and his plan to have a vaccine by the end of the year.  I am
sure he will try to claim this new possible treatment for the virus is
somehow due to his credit. Also we can just about guarantee he won't
apologize for calling the virus a hoax, it's likely he will blame China, W H O,
the  news media and the Democrats for the slow response to it instead. 
Then he will  likely brag  about how great a job he has been doing.
All lies and more lies.

The number of unemployed is reported to be over 30 million as of today.
Unless Moscow Mitch of the senate doesn't start giving money to aid the
states, the number of unemployed will increase by tens of thousands. Also
Hospitals need funding as the corona virus isn't making them enough money
to cover their costs. because many of the victims don't have insurance, and
can't pay.

By the way Moscow Mitch wants to open the senate on Monday, not to help
people harmed by the corona virus, but to appoint an unqualified friend as
-a judge for a federal court. Just a continuation of his desire to fill the courts
with conservative judges designed to curtail the rights of the common
American. If we allow the GOP to continue their control of the senate,
it will set the rights of many Americans back to the 1950's. Where
people of color where second class citizens, women have no rights
to control their bodies, and the LGBTQ will have to return to the  closet
or go to jail.

Even with thousands of deaths ongoing, states are wanting to open the
economy, mostly to  please Trump. They point to fewer victims and the
needs of businesses. While this is true, we must prepare with testing and
tracking people who are found to be infected. If we don't a second wave
of infections is bound to  occur. Then  the economy will get even worse,
with more suffering, with even more hunger  due to people out of money.
Already lines miles long are showing up where food  is being distributed,
and will get worse if we fail to use precautions prior to reopening
the economy.

Some essential workers are refusing to work, saying they don't have the
protection they need to be safe. If this isn't dealt with soon, people in cities
could be without police and fire protection, or ambulances. Without water
and power. Garbage piling up as well, and a lack of transportation will
prevent doctors, and nurses  from getting to hospitals, or food being
delivered to groceries stores and  restaurants.

I think our politicians best wake up, especially the GOP. Because when this is
over, the people are going to look to punish those they feel are responsible for
the deaths of their relatives.  Already in European countries, this is starting, and
I am sure  we will see  people wanting retribution here, and with all the lawyers
across the country,  they will be plenty to help. To either sue or jail those
responsible.

The number of infections in the US is over 1 million and growing, and
deaths are over 61,000.

World wide the number of infections are 2,200,000 and deaths are
almost 230,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 01, 2020, 12:58:32 pm

187 days left and a   senate staff member is accusing Joe Biden of a sexual assault. This
was supposed to have happened 27 years ago. This person accused Biden of inappropriate
touching in 2018, but nothing about a sexual assault. Biden has said it didn't happen, and
asked the senate  to check their records for any complaint of this sort about him. I am sure
the Trump campaign will want to make a big deal out of this, but Trump has been accused
of rape and said he could do the same on video. So I would think Trump would do well to
leave this alone.

So far virtually every woman asked about Biden support him and his support of women
and their rights. Also women Democrats said they would vote for Biden. Personally even
if this was true, Trump has a record of treating women disgracefully. So not supporting
Biden for an act of 27 years ago in favor of a man like Trump would make little sense.

Several states have decided to allow opening of businesses today. Yes they have told them
to limit numbers of customers along with separation.  States like Georgia which are having
increasing numbers of infections and deaths has been directed to open by their GOP governor.
Demonstrators by Trump supporters invaded the state house in Michigan. They were carrying
firearms and yelling to allow the opening of the economy. The Democrat governor has strong
support for keeping the economy closed. The GOP controlled legislature is suing to open the
economy, even though 63% of the population support the governors decision to keep it closed.

Even with these Trump supporting demonstrators, the population of the country support the
stay at home policies of most states by a large majority. Even republicans as well. It's just a
minority making a lot of noise to please their cult leader Trump.

Trump supporters point to fewer infections and deaths to support their reopening the economy.
They don't seem to understand that it's the closing of the economy that has brought down  those
numbers so much, and to reopen without proper preparation will just start  it all over again. The
virus doesn't care about politics, or state boarders. It is just looking for another human to infect,
and we must do all we can to prevent it's spread. Otherwise it will shut us down anyway.

We shouldn't let a minority push us all in the wrong direction. This virus is a killer, and will
put a lot of people in their graves. People that would have years of life otherwise. People we
in many cases depend on.  People we love, or parents and grand parents. As it turns out this
virus even kills young people, and in some cases cripple them with strokes, kidney failure
and heart failure,  Not just the lungs.  Not just the aged as we thought in the beginning.

Yes we are getting tired of sitting at home. We want to  go to parties, theaters, and
concerts,  going out to eat,  but we must resist. Once there is a good treatment, and
a vaccine, we can  return to the   life we enjoy.

Trump is now wanting to blame China. Claiming they may have created this virus, and
it got away from them. Well Trumps own people say this virus shows no indication of
being created by man, and Trump has been told this. This is just another one of Trump's
diversions. Even if China was guilty of creating this virus, it doesn't change the fact that
Trump wanted to ignore it, and the danger  it presented to our population. All to protect
his precious stock market and not our lives.  As usual Trump is full of lies, and little else.

The number of people infected in the U S is almost 1,200,000  and the number of deaths is
over 63,000.  Also around 150,000 recoveries.

World wide the number of infections is nearly 3,200,000  and nearly 300,000 deaths.

These are the latest reports I have found.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 02, 2020, 12:50:57 pm
186 days to go, and Trump wants to put people of color back to  work.
To put them at risk of catching the corona virus. Perhaps  because he
and the GOP leadership want to get rid of them,  because they are a
threat to the GOP's control of the country.

60% or more people of color who are infected by the corona virus die from
it. Also people in nursing homes, long care facility, and those in veterans
homes are at a high risk of infection and death. It's time the GOP wakes
up, or they will lose a lot of their older voters too.

This country should be paying people where they need it to stay at home.
One 1200 dollar check isn't going to pay the bills. Not even for one month,
especially in the cities. With the thousands of deaths, many people can't
afford a funeral for their loved ones. Does Trump care? Of course not. He
could order Fima to do this, as they often do during other national
emergencies. But not with this president. A man who never had to do
without for anything. Not from the time he was born.

As  usual the GOP always claim if they hand out money, many will just
sit at home and not try to work or find a job. While some may do this,
not providing aid to those who need it, hurts businesses and local
economies during this crisis.

The claim that Joe Biden sexually assaulted a woman was denied by
Biden himself. Also he told the senate to release all records that apply
to him. This claim was made by a supporter of Sanders. In the past
this woman claimed that Russia's Putin was a good man, of which
there is nothing to show him being good. Also when Joe Biden
was asked to be vice president by Obama, he was investigated
thoroughly. We can be sure if there was evidence of impropriety 
the news media and GOP would have found it. If people want to
think this makes Biden just as bad as Trump. They should look
at his record of which shows Trump to be much worse that Biden
ever was.

It's interesting how the conservative media is supporting this woman's
claim, but not when a woman claimed the last appointed supreme
court justice assaulted her while he was drunk.


Many people in states that have sea coasts and  beaches are
wanting to go to them. The problem is many of the people
won't distance themselves from others. Yes some do, but not
enough to be safe.  some GOP governors have been allowing
people to get out, unfortunately this is likely going to spread the
virus. Even if people don't want to believe it.

The number of people infected in the U S is well over 1,200,000 and deaths are over 65,000.

World wide the number of infections are over 3,300,000 and deaths are over 230,000.

his link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 03, 2020, 01:25:36 pm

195 days left, and Trump continues to stand in the way of smart people he brings
to his news conferences. One day he claims one thing, and a day or two later he
calls his own words lies. He continues to encourage his followers to put their lives
at risk by demonstrating without separation or masks. These people may believe
they are just standing up for their rights. But we as a people must respect the
rights of others first. Just as the freedom of speech doesn't allow one to yell
fire in a crowded theater.

Unfortunately this problem of some people feeling the government is out to take their
rights and  guns has been around for many years. I had friends who felt this way
over 30  years ago. Many still think the  Democrats want to take everyone's guns even
yet. Something I myself never saw any evidence of. Yes they want to eliminate military
style weapons, and others that can be used to kill large numbers of people. This is
supported  by a large percentage of the population, because most people have no
interest in mass killing. I get the impression those who do want these weapons have
it in their heads they need them in case the government fails. Or to protect against
mob violence. I really doubt if most of these people would survive long once they run
out of food, water. and bullets. Survival under these conditions takes planning and a
large group working together. Not a individual holed up somewhere with a family
and a weapon.

There is encouraging words about a vaccine being developed  soon in Britain. But
it will be at least September before it's ready. That is if proves to be safe and effective.
Then it will take time to produce the hundreds of millions needed for the world population.
Even if it works, they still have to determent how long it's good for. It's very likely it will
require a annual injection to keep the virus under control. Much as we do for influenza.

Trump is trying to claim the economy is going to bounce back very fast. There is little
evidence to show this. Until we have a vaccination people will be slow  to put them
selves at risk, by going to crowded event. These businesses and restaurants can't 
survive on 50% or less of the customers they need. Just allowing them to open their
doors isn't enough. People have to feel safe, and many don't have the money to do
any more than pay outstanding bills and try to get food for their families.

Unfortunately many people can't even do that. They have to go to any food bank
they can find or let their family do without. This is why Trump and the GOP should
be  providing a monthly check to people so they can stay home while this virus is
still uncontrolled. But no, they just want to send people out to put their lives at
risk so Trump can claim he brought about a recovery, or claim he did his
best  to do so when it fails. We need a president who is willing to take the
responsibility to do the job, instead of hiding behind yes men governors
who are afraid to do the job they need to do, because Trump might call them
names.

The number of people in the U S is about 1,100,000 and the deaths are over 65,000.
growing around 2,000 a day.

World wide de is around 3,300,000 and deaths are about 240,000.

this link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org








Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 04, 2020, 01:07:39 pm

194 days to go, and Trump is ready to go on the road with lots of rally's. I am sure
he misses all that cheering, and applause. I understand his first stop is Arizona. I
wonder how many of his followers will be wearing a mask? It's likely we will see
a spike of infections there by the end of the month.

Several states are allowing their businesses to have limited opening today. By the end
of the month we may see another surge of infections of covin 19. Perhaps not, but
infection numbers are climbing now. Trump is still trying to hide increasing infections
in his attempt to open up the economy. So time will tell. I fear Trump's desire to help
himself is going to get a lot of people killed. 

Fortunately most businesses are trying to protect their customers, and many are
deciding it's best to stay closed for the time being. Also many people have decided
it's best to continue to stay home for now. Unfortunately some still think this virus is
nothing but a scam by the liberal media and Democrats, and it's likely they and their
families will pay,and I fear some with their lives. All because Trump wants to play
politics rather than looking after the good of the people, or the nation.

Trump continues to remove people who fail to support his lies and misleading statements,
He may think that is smart, but leaders who have failed to listen to people who know
what is really going on end up ruining themselves and unfortunately in many cases
the country they rule.

Trump has decided it's time to open national parks, even though infections are on
the rise. Also this virus is having unforeseen effects on children, though still rare
parents will have to be on guard.

Many nursing homes for seniors and veterans are suffering many deaths from this
virus. Mainly due to a lack of protective supplies and proper testing. Just more of
Trump's failures to protect the people.

Trump is wanting to blame everyone he can for his irresponsible response to the
corona virus. He never wants to take responsibility for anything that might make
it look like he is doing a bad job. If he can't hide bad things, he just lies about
them.

A lot of people are complaining about cabin fever. I can understand why people want
to return to work, but if they think staying home is tough, they should have to stay
home like a handicapped person. except to go to the doctor, pay bills or get groceries
I haven't been out much for almost 10 years. The farthest away about  25 miles during
that time. Oh yes, the hospital too.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,150,000 and over 67,000 have died.

World wide the number of infections are over 3,500,000 and deaths are near 250,000.


this link takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 06, 2020, 12:17:34 pm

with correction there are 181 days till November 3, which is the next election date
for the U S president. Some how I had too many days by mistake.

There is a possibility we could have a vaccine by September. It depends
on how successful the many vaccines work out over the next few months.
Animal trials don't always work the same for humans. Also tests to see
how safe they are with large studies with humans. It would do little
good to have millions of vaccines created only to find out they make
some people very sick or even to kill. 

We can hope Trump doesn't try to circumvent safety studies with hope  to
get the economy going again. We already know he considers the economy
worth more than our lives. Apparently even the GOP does as well.

These pro Trump demonstrators don't seem to understand it's the super rich billionaires
who are supporting Trump and the far right. The rich people do not care how many people
die. They only want to keep control of this country to  protect their vast riches. They
know if the Democrats get their way, programs will be passed that will sap away
hundreds of millions from their great wealth. There isn't any thing wrong with being
very rich, but when people use this wealth to take advantage
of others, it's time they were stopped.

Down through history rich men have sent the children of the poor off to war. In most
cases these wars were to protect the rich. Both wars we fought since world war II
was mostly about the rich and their fear of socialism. They want the public to think
they must follow their lead to keep capitalism, and a free market economy in our
country. This is wrong, many countries around the world  have free market economies
along with social programs that care for the needy, Canada for one. This crisis we are
having show the failures of a society that doesn't control greed.

The first thing Trump did when this virus came on shore was to protect himself and
his rich cronies. The GOP gathered to provide funds to protect the economy, not for
the average American, but their rich supporters. If the Democrats hadn't jumped
on them, there would have been little for anyone else. The GOP always have
virtually unlimited funds for their rich friends, but when it comes to helping
those who have little, they complain about spending too much money, and the
national debt.

Trump claims the economy will take off if given a chance. He fails to
remember his so called great economy was showing signs of failing
last fall, before this Virus arrived. An economy he was bragging to
have over 4% growth was barely at 2% and slipping. Yes unemployment
was low, but many people were working 2 jobs to make ends meet,
because minimum wage jobs don't  pay enough to cover family
costs.

Trump will be lucky if there is any growth by November, much
less a growing economy. More likely we will be in a deep recession if not a depression.

The number  of infected in the U S is over 1,200,000 and almost 71,000 deaths.

World wide over 3,600,000 people infected , and  255,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 07, 2020, 12:44:31 pm

180 days left, and unemployment is likely over 20% even if it's reported to be less.
This is because many of the unemployed aren't looking for a job yet. I am sure 
Trump will want to claim the lowest figure to be accurate.  Because he wants
everyone to think he is doing a good job. This is likely the reason he is trying
to hide infection numbers as well. We know our corrupt president hides his
mistakes, and lies about those he can't hide. So all you can believe is what he
does, and nothing else.

It appears thousands of people are dying due to this virus instead of the resulting
pneumonia it causes. This could mean the numbers could be as much as 50%
more than what is being reported.  So many deaths are being checked to see
if they resulted from the corona virus or not. This possibility was discovered
because death rates are running higher than normal even with covid19 deaths
included.

Unfortunately more children across the nation and the world are showing up with
tocsic syndrome and the damage it' does to their heart and other parts of their
body. This appears to be the result of a corona virus infection, but medical
science isn't saying for sure yet. So parents need to watch for unusual  rashes and
stomach ailments in their children.  Also it's being found that children can transmit
this virus just as easy as adults. So returning to school will likely spread the virus
more.

Even though Trump and the GOP are claiming this virus is on it's way out, Medical
science is telling us, we will likely be dealing with it for months if not years yet.
Only a vaccine can stop the spread if we don't practice separation and follow
proper health safeguards. Nursing homes and other long care facilities must
be converted to isolate those who have the virus, or these places will continue
to be  death traps for thousands. infectious people should be removed to a
hospital otherwise.

Trump said the other day it was terrible for any to die, yet he still presses states
to open their economies, which will likely kill thousands more. You can be sure
Trump isn't going to put himself in jeopardy as he asks the rest of us to do, and
you won't see him in a mask, because he thinks it makes him look weak.

Trump and his cronies continue to promise more testing, but after 2 months
we still don't have nearly enough. Even supplies for hospitals and other
care facilities are yet in short supply.

It will likely be the middle of this month before we see a surge  caused
by states opening their economies. If the expected surge occurs, and
nothing is done we can expect infection numbers to climb exponentially.
Then we will be back where we started, and to not overwhelm hospitals
we will have to shut the country down again.

The number of infections in the U S is nearly 1,250,000 and deaths are over 73,000.

World wide infections are over 3,700,000.
and deaths are almost 270,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 08, 2020, 12:59:41 pm

179 days left and Trump's valet may have infected him. Reports are Trump
had a fit when he found this out. Yes this would make most people upset,
but throwing a fit just shows how unbalance Trump is. Just more proof
that he shouldn't be in control of nuclear weapons, much less being
president.

Attorney general Barr has apparently decided to not continue to press charges
against a friend of Trump who was charged with lying to the FBI. Claiming the
charges weren't proper in the first place. It seems to me if lying to the FBI is
a criminal offense. It shouldn't  matter what the lie was about. The FBI should
decide if it required prosecution, not the president, which apparently who Barr
is wishing to please.

Trump and the GOP continue to press states in dealing with convid19.
wanting them to decide how to open their economies. This lack of
leadership at the national level leaves the nation with no direction.
State and local governments going this way and that,  doesn't work
well. Trump calls it a war, but if a nation fought a war the way
Trump and the GOP fight this virus, they would lose, really bad.

This virus has caused unemployment to rise, and is officially 14.7%
at last report. In reality it's more likely over 20%, because many are
still at home, and many haven't been able to even report being out
of work. Yes several businesses are trying to open, but at a terrible
risk to the public. Yes they sanitize and clean, but this virus has been
reported to hang in the air for 2 or 3 hours. So in a small business
one customer after another could end up breathing the virus. Even
with masks, because most masks won't filter out the airborne virus.

To win a war we have to stand together, pushing  in the same
direction. As is we are going in 50 different ways. We ask people
to stay home, but if left to Trump and the GOP they should risk
their lives or starve. They should provide people with enough
money to stay home until a cure or vaccine is produced.

But no, the GOP doesn't want to send that much money to people
they don't want to support. Yet they send much more to their
rich big business supporters. It's the same old line with the GOP.
We won't send money to lazy couch sitting boozers, especially
those of color. or immigrants. They feel  this helps them get the
votes to stay in power, and sadly, many GOP congressmen and
senators  think this is proper anyway.

Today marks 75 years since the war ended in Europe, and Trump
lays a reef at the tomb of the unknown soldier. A tradition done
by presidents since that war. Personally I think it's a disgrace to
have a corrupt president like Trump involved. A man who stayed
home from a war claiming foot trouble, when many went and died.
Hopefully  we can get a honorable man for president to replace
him.

I think it's sad for a woman to wait 27 years, then try to help
a man like Trump stay in office with claims of sexual attack by
his opponent. The same type of attack Trump thinks is fine, and
said so in a video.

The number of infections in the U S is at almost 1,270,000  The number of
deaths is almost 76,000.

World wide infections are over 3,800,000 and deaths over 265,000.
Recoveries over 1 million so far.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 09, 2020, 12:58:51 pm

178 days left and another staff member of the White House has been infected by
convid19. Of course Trump claims he hasn't been around this person, because he
fears it will hurt the stock market if people think he could be infected. I have a
hunch he is getting tested daily  due to his paranoia. I am sure everyone around
him is being tested  the same way. So all you pro Trump cultists can stop worrying.

Trump continues to claim the economy is about to come roaring back. Well I am
afraid this fantasy of Trump has little or no chance of being true. Before the virus
hit, the economy was slowing, and with over 30 million out of work it will take
many months before the unemployment  numbers even drop into the single digits.

Sadly Trump is telling congress he doesn't want any more stimulus packages
passed.  This even with infections growing, and even more people out of work.
This attitude  of Trump will only make things worse for the economy. Without
money for customers  to spend. Many more businesses will go bankrupt,
causing  their employees to be out of work.

This cycle of losses feeds upon it's self, and much like the virus will drive us
into a deeper recession. Already this virus is expanding again, likely due to
people not following safe practices, and with businesses trying to reopen it
will likely get worse, and as long as Trump continues to encourage the
reopening of the economy, his followers will likely continue their
demonstrations. Especially those who think this virus is a lot about
nothing. Sadly they will be slow to learn.

This lack of concern by Trump and the GOP for the people of this country
should prove just how little they care. With multiple thousandth going to
food banks to feed themselves and their families. Trump should  be calling
for more money for the masses, not less. This is more proof that Trump
and the GOP only care about the top 5%, and they as Marie Antonietta said
2 centuries ago, "Let them eat cake". Of course they unlike her won't lose
their heads due to their selfishness. I doubt if it would change anything
even if they did.

Until will have a vaccine we must test,  and track infections. Then quarantine
those who have been exposed. Otherwise the virus will spread it's infections
and deaths throughout the nations.

Trump went to see a group of 90+ year old veterans, and didn't wear a
mask. He claimed he didn't get close to them.  Still is just more of
Trump's bad examples for the nation, and his followers. 

Trump continues to claim this virus came from a lab in China. This is likely
his desperate desire to  divert attention from the fact he ignored warnings
because he feared a threat of a pandemic would hurt his economy, and
his chances for re election. Instead this virus likely came from ill eagle
exotic animal trading in China. The Chinese government may have tried
to cover it up, but Trump did as well. 

The number of people infected in the U S is almost 1,300,000 and
deaths are almost 77,000.

World wide infections are over 3,800,000, and  deaths are near
300,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 10, 2020, 01:14:22 pm

 177 days left, and Trump wouldn't let members of the CDC answer questions
in a House hearing, but said okay for a senate hearing. Apparently he was
afraid to let them talk in a Democrat controlled hearing, but was okay for the
GOP to do it. Could be he feels the GOP won't allow questions that would
expose his mistakes, or embarrass him.

Trump continues to push for reopening the economy. Claiming the economy is
more valuable than peoples lives. Unfortunately this encourages people to feel
they don't need to use safe practices in public locations. Also when Trump won't
wear a mask, it causes some to feel they don't need to either. 

As I  said a while back, some people would refuse  to wear masks, and get
mad if they weren't allowed into businesses if they didn't or has a fever.
Sure enough this is happening in various places across  the nation. Some
are even using violence trying to get their way. This is largely the result
of Trump's lack of concern for our lives. I can understand why people are
tired and want to go back to the way things were, but to do so put's
peoples health at risk. Even if it was only themselves, it could
take hospital space away from someone else, and put others at risk.

I think most of those complaining about their rights to not wear masks
and return to a so called  normal, are the same kind of people who
support Trump and his cult. I wish Trump would tell these people
to use safe practices. But no, he fears they won't like it, and he has
been preaching for them to go forth, spend money and work.

Even though Trump claims the country is ready to reopen, he doesn't even
have control of the virus in the white house.  Two staff members showed up
infected this last week. Trump tried to minimize it, but reports showed testing
has been stepped up, and workers in and around the white house are starting
to wear masks.

Numbers of infected are growing across the nation, yet states continue to allow
businesses to open. Those controlled by GOP governors seem to be the most
likely to allow public gatherings. Parks, beaches, and even churches. All of
which are hard to  keep people separate at. I just wonder how many of those
who follow Trump, will have to  die before they understand the need to keep
safe while waiting for a vaccine or effective treatment?

Even with Trump's encouragements most people feel it's not safe to return
to a so called normal life style yet. This is why Trump's  claim the economy 
will quickly return is wrong. Yes many of his supporters will risk their
health for him, but in not enough numbers to keep most businesses open.
Also many businesses have already closed and a lot of them won't reopen.
It takes time to build a business, and once closed their workers must look
elsewhere for work. Leaving the business without experienced workers.

In spite of the claims by Trump and the GOP it will take many months
if not years  before over 30 million people find jobs again. Also this
virus must be dealt with first. Hopes and wishes by our corrupt
president and GOP leadership isn't going to change the facts.

The number of those infected in the U S is over 1,320,000 and nearly 79,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infected is over 4 million and nearly 280,000 deaths.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 11, 2020, 01:04:54 pm

176 days left, and how can people feel safe to leave home when this virus can
invade the White House. This pretty much undermines Trump's claims it's safe
to go  back to work when he can't even keep his own people safe.

More children are getting sick with a strange disease that seems to be related
to the corona virus. Rare as of yet, but parents should be aware of rashes,
stomach pains, and a persistent high fever.

Obama, during a conference call was heard to say Trump has done a terrible job
during this crisis. Trump came back with claims he has received good reports
by the public and others. Of course Trump can always come up with something
good to say about himself, no matter how poor his work is, even if it is a lie.

Covid19 is showing a increase in South Korea, and India in the last few days.
So it appears this disease isn't going to be seasonable after all. I fear a second
wave of this virus could be worse than the first. Especially since many people
need to get back to work. Just another reason the government should provide
funding so people can afford to stay home. One 1200 dollar check isn't enough
for most people to live on for even a month. Most people would need 2,000 a
month, and should be provided monthly till a vaccine is available. But I am sure
the GOP would cry No, claiming it would cost too much.

Yes it does sound like a lot of money and it is. But if this virus  takes off again
unemployment will climb even higher with more businesses closing. We must
test and track infections if we are going to have any control of this virus. No
matter what Trump and the GOP want to claim. Otherwise we are heading for
a depression that could last for years.

Every time Trump gets on television he brags about himself, and runs down those
he feels oppose him. It makes no difference if he has to lie. I really think he could
pass a lie detector test since he is a professional at telling lies.

Trump and the GOP are still working to get rid of health care for the masses,
especially Obama Care (ACA). They want private insurance to cover illnesses
and other health problems. This may work for most people with jobs that
provide health insurance, but the rest of the population can't afford it, or
even get coverage if they have a pre existing condition. Even one your
born with.

Trump and the GOP are lying when they claim they are in favor of coverage for
pre-existing conditions.  Because private insurance can't make the money they
want covering sick people. Since the GOP and Trump have no plans to make
them do so, it won't happen. The same for drug prices, the GOP or Trump
won't force the pharmaceutical industry to cut prices either.

You can be sure many of those recovering from the corona virus will have to
declare bankruptcy, because they will get a bill from the hospital and doctors
that will likely be over a million dollars. This will even exceed most limits for
insurance  plans many people may have. Perhaps this will put enough pressure
on the GOP to pass national health care over the objections of big insurance.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,400,000 and deaths are over 80,000.

World wide infections are over 4,100,000 and deaths are over 280,000.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 12, 2020, 12:05:13 pm

175 days left and a hearing is being held with doctors from the CDC in the GOP
controlled senate. Of course the GOP members are going to ask questions that
benefit Trump, and his desire to open the economy sooner than later. One doctor
did show concern that some states aren't following proper precautions before
reopening their economies. Saying this could lead to more outbreaks of the
corona virus.

Senator Sanders asked the question that when a vaccine or treatment became
available, would it be provided to all wither they could afford it or not. This of
course was dodged by the CDC and the GOP senators. Then the chairman
told Sanders his time was up. Just shows the GOP have little or no interest in
spending money on the disadvantaged.

The GOP and Trump feel there isn't any need for another stimulus package, claiming
the economy is well on it's way to recovery. Also they claim to spend more would
increase the deficit even more. Seems suddenly they are worried about spending money.
Especially when the Democrats want to help the unemployed, very small businesses, and
the needy.

One GOP senator implied the number of deaths didn't show the need to continue
closing schools and the economy. Shows the GOP place money over lives, be they
elderly or children. While the economy is important, there are ways to give good
protection, and still allow some businesses to operate safely.

Democrats in the hearing did try to keep questions about people, though the GOP
did their best to keep it on the economy. Because they think it's the job of business
to help people, not the other way around. It would be nice if this  worked, but in
most cases help to businesses do little for the public good.

Trump's claim that covid19 has been defeated, a misleading lie,
makes it that much harder for states to hold the line against this
virus.

The number of infected in the U S is nearing 1,400,000 and deaths are over 80,000.


World wide infections are over 4,100,000  and deaths are nearing 290,000.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 13, 2020, 12:54:38 pm

174 days left, and the senate leader, Moscow Mitch is calling the current house relief
bill basically  a big spending bill that does nothing to help the economy. Apparently
since it helps the little people, and not so much his rich supporters, he has no interest in
it. To be honest, I doubt if Trump would sign it, and we know Moscow Mitch  doesn't do
anything unless his boss Trump likes it.

The hearing that was held in the senate yesterday didn't turn out exactly the way the
GOP would have liked. The lead doctor of the CDC told the senate and the nation this virus
will likely be with us into the fall, and if we try to open the economy too soon, not only the
economy will continue to suffer, many more lives will be lost. This doctor told Trump not to
open the economy too fast, but Trump ignored him. Also for more testing and tracking, yet
nothing but promises from the Trump administration.

One senator accused the doctor of not being smart enough to forecast such a bad future.
The doctor reminded him that he is only telling the facts as science tells him.  It's obvious
this  senator was kissing up to Trump by his remarks. There is no place in this crisis for the
political nonsense the GOP and Trump continue trying to push.  All Trump and the GOP 
want is to keep power, and the money that goes with it.

Lately Trump is claiming the virus is going away. So we should ask him why it is spreading
into the rural areas of the Midwest. Thousands more are being infected, and dying while
Trump is denying there is any  problem with opening the economy. It is apparent he  doesn't
care if people live or die, as long  as he gets reelected.

Trump can claim he has lots of support, but the polls show he is loosing support from older
Americans. People who were some of his strongest supporters. This alone could cost him
the state of Florida, and if he does, he has good reason to worry.

Reports are that even when a vaccine is found for covid19 it's likely a booster shot will be
required four months later.  We can hope this booster is only required  once, and hopefully
it will only be an  annual  vaccine treatment as the flu requires.

States across the nation are needing money from the federal government. Yet Trump and
the GOP ignore this. By doing so tens of thousands of state workers will have to  be laid off.
This business of wanting the private sector to fix the economy is going to push the country
all the deeper into a recession, and likely into a depression that rivals the great depression
of the 1930's. A depression the GOP caused as well. Seems they just can't understand a
economy rests on the masses, not just big business, and the rich.

The number of infections in the U S is nearly 1,400,000  and deaths are nearly 82,000
from covid19.

World wide infections are nearly 4,400,000  and over 290,000 deaths from covid19.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 14, 2020, 01:05:28 pm

173 days left, and Trump continues to claim the economy is going to
come back fast and strong by this fall. At this time there are 36 million
unemployed across the nation, and growing. So for Trump to claim a
strong third and forth quarter is more a fantasy than real life. In late
march he was claiming the virus would be gone by now, but it's still
spreading fast. The American public needs a strong leader, not a man
who  does little more than spread his wishful thinking.

Since Trump's poll numbers are sagging he has started spreading
conspiracy theorists trying to divert peoples attention away from
over 80,000 deaths and over a million infections, caused mostly by
his refusal to admit the facts about the corona virus in the beginning.
South Korea  had their first death the same day we had one from the
corona virus and as of now they have suffered less than 300 deaths
while we have over 80,000. Because they unlike Trump immediately
started testing and tracking infections while Trump wanted to ignore
the virus.

The main reason Trump ignored this virus is because he feared the
stock market and economy would take a big fall. From the beginning
Trump has put his so called great economy over the lives of the
American people, and still does. Mostly because he feels a strong
economy will return him to the white house this fall.

Today there is a hearing talking to the doctor that Trump removed
from the study of vaccine development. There is evidence that Trump
did this because the doctor opposed his promotion of  drugs that
weren't shown to be safe or effective. So far the GOP members are
trying to say that since in some cases they appeared to stop the
virus. Trump was right to claim they  could work. Even to excuse
the fact these drugs could kill in some cases with the hope they
might work. Shows the GOP will say anything to support their king.
The amazing  thing is some of these GOP members claim to be
doctors.  Personally I  wouldn't trust them to doctor me, after
the way they  dismiss good medical practice.

The American public deserve to hear  the facts, not wishful thinking
from our leaders. The GOP seems to fear Trump when they deny the
facts, because I am sure they aren't stupid. Trump makes misleading
claims and promises he has no intent of keeping. Then lies and
denies his own words when the truth is put to him.

Now the GOP and Trump are trying to  say the Obama administration
is the reason for shortages of medical supplies and ventilators. This
is them trying to save Trumps presidency, because Trump himself
shut down programs to protect the American public   from a
pandemic. Programs that Obama and Biden worked to create.
Yet Trump shut them down because he didn't believe they were
needed.  Now he wants to hide his stupid mistakes, and put the
blame on others.

Trump never ends his claims of how bad the news and Democrats
have treated him ever since he became president. Yet nearly every
think he complains about was his own doing. We need a president
who doesn't cry and whine every  time he gets in front of a camera.

The number of infections inn the U S are almost 1,400,000 and almost 83,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections are about 4,400,000 and deaths are almost 300,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 15, 2020, 12:46:31 pm

172 days left and  the GOP senators are standing against the Democrats relief bill.
A bill with money for states and local governments. Governments who are running
out of money, and soon will have to lay off tens of thousands that provide needed
services for the people. As usual the GOP has lots of money for the rich and big
businesses, but none for the rest of us.

It appears a lot of people are showing up at restaurants and bars.  It seems to me that
it would be hard to wear a mask and eat or drink. Places such as these are usually in
confined spaces where separation would be difficult at best. Also the air would quickly
become filled with tiny drops of water that could easily contain covid19. Studies have
shown such drops can stay airborne for up to 3 hours. So even if only one person in
the room who was infected was there for an extended time could  infect them all. Then
they would take it home or work to likely infect others.

This is why our federal government needs to support those who need to be quarantined, but
so far the GOP and Trump are against this. They want people to go out and risk their health
and life instead. I think we can see they and the president are playing it safe while they
tell the rest of us to risk it all. This support would only need to be provided until a vaccine
was available, but they say no, and claim the democrats are just playing politics with this
bill.

This is a normal reaction by the GOP, and for almost 40 years they continue to push trickle
down economics. An idea they know doesn't work for anyone but the rich. Business owners
except in rare cases won't pass along tax savings to their workers no matter what the GOP
claim. This is why unions were created. To force businesses to  treat their workers fairly.

It's a shame, but it seems the majority of Americans need a crisis to get them interested
in voting for honest people. The rest of the time they often just sit and let politicians lead
them around by the nose. The trouble with this is dishonest people get elected, and work
for their own good instead of the people. Then they do just enough to get re elected  and
nothing more. Often this is just for show and little else.

It appears Trump is starting a new plan that is supposed to speed up the  creation of  a vaccine,
and it's distribution. I think this is just another promise that is more hot  air than anything else.
Trump is afraid, because his poll numbers are falling and will say or promise anything he hopes
will give him better numbers, and possibly help the stock market as well.

A lot of people claim they are out because they have to survive. The problem is, they could
end up in a hospital and kill family too.  Businesses may open, but without enough customers
they will go bankrupt anyway, and get sick too. They should be calling their GOP senators and tell
them they need help if they want their vote. Not empty promisses or told they should die to
benefit Trump.

The number of people infected in the U S is over 1,400,000 and deaths are almost 87,000.

World wide the number of people infected is over 4,400,000 and deaths are over 300,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 16, 2020, 01:02:45 pm

171 days left, and Trump said testing will just increase the reported number
of infections and little else. Something Trump has been wanting to limit from the
start. Not infections as such, but the reporting of them. From the start he has
been telling Americans that this virus will be gone by the  beginning of summer.
So as the number of infections continue to climb rapidly, he has to make
excuses and put blame on others, trying to  cover his ineptitude. As he has
claimed, he is perfect and incapable of being wrong. Which is nothing but a
con job, and just proves how much of a despicable  liar he is.

Since Trump  puts so  little trust in testing, we should ask why they do so much
in the White house?  Perhaps it's because Trump's claims about covid19 are lies.

Each time professional who work for the government come out in opposition
to Trump's ignorance, he has them transferred to shut them up. Trump only
wants people who will lie for him, and if they don't they are out.

Attorney General Barr continues to undermine the  rule of law to please
Trump. His ridiculous belief that a president can do no wrong is destroying
the justest Departments ability to do it's job. Which is to protect the American
people, not the president.

The house passed a 3 trillion dollar relief bill, that Trump declared  dead on
arrival, because he and  the GOP have no interest in helping the states and
local governments with their  budget shortfalls, or your pocketbook. The GOP
and Trump claim  the economy is coming back and there is no need to spend
the money. In the senate leaders opinion is just political. Yes, and your GOP
senators are happy to see you in long lines to get food for your family, and
if you  don't get on your phone and let them know how you feel, you will be
in those lines for months to come. Because they don't plan to help anyone
but their rich supporters.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,400,000 and deaths are over 88,000.

World  wide, the infections are over 4,500,000 and deaths are over 300,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 17, 2020, 01:04:28 pm

170 Days left, and Trump along with  the GOP have decided to attack
Obama, claiming all kinds of nonsense about our previous president
to hide  the mistakes of Trump and the GOP. They don't want the
public  to know that most of the nearly 90,000 deaths are due to
Trump's incompetence, and lack of leadership. They want the public
to believe it was due to Obama and the Democrats.

Trump continues to lie, claiming there are enough tests, and supplies
for all hospitals and those who work in them. Even for VA hospitals,
and nursing homes. He and the GOP leadership do not care if you
are hungry or sick. All they care about is money and power. It's  up
to you if you wish to survive. The only thing they fear is your vote.

Infections by covid19 continue to grow, and unfortunately deaths are
as well. Trump wants you to ignore this, and go back to work and spend
money. Because his election means more than anything else. Not your
lives, or your family. because to Trump your a loser if you fail.

Trump is depending on the news media to be as incompetence as they
were in 2016. Where they were afraid to call Trump's lies a lie. Where
they felt they must find bad things about his opponents if they had to
report something bad about him. Trump used this by doing terrible
things so the news media would feel the need to find fault with his
opponent. Trump is a terrible president , but a very smart manipulator.
He uses his misleading lies to lead his followers around by the nose.

If he wins in November he will do his best to get the supreme court to
allow him to run again in 2024, and beyond, and that will just be the
beginning of the nations problems. Because he and the GOP want
complete control of this country,  if and when they do, the only
people with any rights, will be rich white men. Just as it is in Putins
Russia.

Trump's followers might think that would be okay, but total  control
like Trump wants, requires removal of the right to  bear arms, and
the freedom of speech. History has shown dictators  start out with
promises of making the country  better,  just as communism
promises a better life for all, but in the end the public is forced
to live under the governments hobnail boot, with no rights at all.

You might think you can just vote to put things right, but Trump
and the GOP with control of the courts can invalidate elections
that don't turn out the way they want. That is where we are headed
if we don't get out and vote in November. Because Trump and the
GOP won't protect the rights of women, elderly , veterans, people
of color, or the  LGBTQ, as long as they run things. At that point
I fear only a civil war could put things right again, and that could
destroy the country, and millions of lives.

The number of infections in the US are almost 1,500,000 and deaths are about 88,000.

World wide infections are almost 4,500,000  and deaths are over  300,000.


This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 18, 2020, 12:58:14 pm

169 days left till the November election. Is Trump losing his mind?  all he does
is blame others for his own mistakes. If he is wanting the  minority vote, he
shouldn't be going after Obama, the most popular politician in the country. But
this seems to be how he thinks, just point and blame, instead of doing a good
job. Cry and whine about being treated so bad. I would tell him to grow up,
but I fear  it's too late for that. At 73 he is more likely suffering from senility
and mental defect. At least anyone that believes conspiracy theories the 
way he does, would be. 

Trump treats this crisis like he would politics. This is a big mistake, because it's
all about infection rates. Decisions must be made that slow infections, not based
on a governor being loyal or not. Trump wants to do the opposite, and run away
from this virus. Hide it from the public, apparently thinking this virus
will go away if he pretends it doesn't exist.

This is a world wide crisis, but Trump treats it like a political game. Blaming
China, the World health Organization or anyone else he can find. because it
just couldn't be anything he has done. It will take the countries  of the
world working together to stop it. Trump doesn't want to join the
nations of the world  in this fight. Just more of his stupid nationalism
That will do us and the world more harm than good.

We are seeing more states opening up businesses over the past few weeks,
and there has been a uptick in the number of infections as well. Some may
say it's just due to more testing, but I think this is just due to hopeful thinking. I
fear people are going to relax and stop being careful. This virus isn't going
anywhere, and given a chance it will take us back where we started months
ago.

Trump and the GOP are pushing to get the economy going again, but this
is going to take a lot more time than they want the public to believe.
so far many businesses are going broke waiting for customers even after
they can open. In spite of the conservative media's claims the economy
is going to grow fast. These businesses will likely be closed long before 
the economy recovers, and for every closure more people are out of work
with no money to spend.

Trump and the GOP just can't get it out of their head that the private
sector should deal with this crisis. It's the same old story, bottom up
government. Just like trickle down economics it only works when there
isn't any greed.  So government must step in and force people to do a
good job with laws and regulations since greed is often the nature
of man.


The number of infections in the U S is  over 1,500,000 and deaths are over 90,000.

World wide the infections are 4,700,000 and the deaths are over 314,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 19, 2020, 01:14:53 pm

168 days left and Trump by last Friday has fired 4 people  whose  job it was to
over see actions by members of Trumps cabinet. The last one was apparently
investigating the secretary of state for improper use of tax money, and state
department personnel. Trump said he fired him at the request of the secretary
of State. The man who was apparently being investigated. Trump has fired others
who were apparently doing their job. Trump has of course denied he did it to stop
any investigations, but all 4 did things that Trump felt was disloyal to him, and we
know Trump expects loyalty above the constitution or the law.

Many pharmaceutical  companies are working hard to find a vaccine or Treatment
for the corona virus. We need our government to tell any company that they can't
restricts the release of this to only the privileged and rich. Because it is a matter of
the public health and national security. This treatment and or vaccine will be a gold
mine which will cause any developer the desire to gain virtually unlimited  wealth
with it. So we can expect the GOP and Trump will be ready to trade protective laws
for political support from such a company.  This is another reason to remove GOP
control of our government during the next election.

There are some reports that plans are being worked out in hope that thousands of
people will have to give up their homes due to mortgage defaults. to be ready to
buy these homes up just as was done during the 2008 recession. Real estate has
always been a money maker for the rich, and those in government.

As I figured many people are gathering anywhere they can when the states open any
place like a beach, park, or church. Largely ignoring rules for their protection. I fear
this will only increase until convid19 starts putting large numbers in hospitals again.
It's understandable to see people wanting to work, but to ignore safety considerations
just to have a bit of fun is irresponsible. Also using the old excuse I have a right to
do it, is wrong when it puts others at risk. Even getting sick by not being careful is
wrong as it takes health care away from people who might need it.  I think part of
the problem is people just love to be in crowds. Kind of a herding instinct so to
speak. Perhaps most people just feel safer that way.

The corona virus is very likely to get much worse this fall, in spite of the claims of
Trump or the GOP. This is why many in government are pushing to allow voting by
mail. Yet Trump and the GOP are against it, claiming it will allow fraudulent voting.
This is just a lot of nonsense, records have shown very little fraud in voting over
many voting cycles. It's just the GOP and Trump's fear if a lot of people can vote
they will lose elections. GOP losses would be their own fault, because all they have
to do is follow the wishes of the American people, people who just want honest and
fair treatment by their government.  Some of Trumps supporters are even making
the stupid claim that the virus will end the day after the November election, something
that would be completely impossible.

According to Trump he has been taking the Malaria drug for over a week. A drug he
claims could protect people from the convid19 virus. This claim by Trump is nothing
more than a hopeful guess by him. Science has shown it has little or no defense
against the virus. Instead it can cause heart problems, and should be only used in
a hospital setting. Of course the White House is the next best thing to a hospital for
a president. So perhaps Trump feels he can use the drug safely because of that.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,500,000 and over 90,000 deaths from the
corona virus.

World wide the number is 4,800,000. and deaths still increasing.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 20, 2020, 01:00:39 pm
A personal  note. My Girl Friend of over 20 years, who lived in Brazil died  :'(
from covid19 last week. So this virus may reach each of us one day, as it has me.


167 days left and the GOP in the senate are more interested in having
hearings about Trumps conspiracy  that Obama and Biden made illegal
wire taps and other attacks on  hiss 2016campaign. Than working to
help the states, local governments, and the people recover or deal
with this corona virus crisis. Yes they must help their King be elected
in November above all else.

They have no interest in extending unemployment benefits, food,
health care, or any thing else except to do what Trump wants, which
is looking after his loyal big business and rich friends. And above all, help
him be re elected.

Yes the GOP and Trump feel people must go back to work, and start spending
money, no matter the risk. According to Trump we are all supposed to be
soldiers in his army, and die if need be to make his economy great again.

Well, if his cult members wish to die for Trump, so be it. But my  health
means more to me than Trump's well being, or the GOP's for that matter.
Yes, there are improvements in parts of the country, but not over all. Many
areas show increases. Especially in poor communities where many people of
color live. African American and spanish Americans are at the greatist risk.
They tend to have health issues more than other people, because they are
generally poorer than anyone else.

The GOP and Trump point to  Sweden and say, They are doing very well with
no restrictions to their economy. Even to say better than other countries. This
is misleading and lies. In relation to their population they are doing very poor
with deaths,  and infections. Though there isn't any restrictions people who
are at a greater risk are staying out of crowds.

When Trump claimed thousands of health care workers were using the Malarea
drug to prevent infections, he lied. The facts are only a few do, and they are
in clinical trials for the most part. The drug inquestion is dangerous and can
kill in some cases, and so far there isn't any science showing it prevents
covid19. So Trump's followers best not listen to their King when he prescribes
drugs to use. When he said "what do you have to lose"? It could be your life.

Trump continues his disire to hide this virus. This is a terrible idea as if we
the public don't know where the virus is, how can we avoid it? Some states
are trying to hide infections as well. Seems the GOP and Trump think they
will benefit if the public doesn't know how many infections there are.  I
really think the public wants transparency from their officials, not dishonesty.
Trump's disohnesty about this virus has already cost him in the polls. People
may not care if he steals tax money and is corrupt, but this virus is a different
story, even to some of his followers.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,500,000 and deaths are near 92,000.

World wide infections are almost 5 million , and over 320,000 deaths

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 21, 2020, 01:03:54 pm

166 days left and Trump threatens to cut off federal aid to Michigan if the state
continues to pursue mail in voting, even though it was just fine for Trump to vote
by mail.  It seems Trump is afraid if too many people vote he and others of the
GOP will   lose elections this fall.

Trump is going to a Ford factory in Michigan where they are building ventilators. It's
likely just a political stop as he is falling behind Joe Biden in that  state. It will be
interesting to see if he wears a mask, or follows any safety rules while there.

So far Trump has set a poor example by not  wearing a mask anywhere he goes.
By doing this many of his followers think it's just fine to ignore  wearing masks or
maintaining separation while working or in public areas. Putting many more people
at risk of infection. This and his use of the Malaria drug encourages  his followers to
ignore safe practices, and cause some to mistakenly think the virus is a fraud.

Over 38,000,000 people across the nation have lost jobs since this pandemic began.
Medical science tells us that if Trump had shut the country down just a week earlier
30,000 lives may have been saved. Of course though, Trump was afraid it would
cause the stock market to go down. So at least 30,000 families can wonder if their
loss was to protect the stock market for Trump or not. 

A decent president would have put people ahead of any economic loss. Trump seeing
how his selfish decision has cost him, is now trying to put the blame on China, Obama,
Biden, and the world health organization. In spite of evidence to the contrary.

With the holiday weekend coming up, it's likely many thousands of people will go to
parks, beaches, and to cemeteries for memorials. I fear many will ignore separation,
wearing masks, or any safety rules. Some will likely complain to officials that they
have a right  to do as they wish, with little or no regard for others.

We have already seen this, where people have argued or tried to forced there way in
while  trying to  enter businesses without wearing masks or following safety rules.
They try to say they have a right to  do  so, even though  businesses can restrict
entry based on public  safety.

I really hope the GOP and Trump pay dearly this November for their lack of caring
and greed. Which has caused a lot of suffering by hundreds of thousands. If not
millions of Americans.

The number of people infected in the U S is well over 1,500,000 and deaths over 93,000.

World wide the infections are over 5 million and deaths are almost 330,000.

The numbers of infections may be much greater since in most cases only
tests tell who has the virus. Some estimates say it could be several times
higher.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 22, 2020, 01:01:26 pm

165 days to go, and with the holiday weekend most states have opened businesses
and recreational areas with limitation rules hoping to keep the public safe. Only time
will tell if this causes a peak in infections or not.

Trump said he didn't care if there is another wave or infection. He wasn't going to shut
down the economy, or recommend doing so. Just more proof Trump cared more about
the economy than the public health from day one. It is true we must try to protect  the
economy and jobs, but it people are sick and dying there is little or no economy to 
protect.

There are reports that the GOP controlled senate may be backing down from it's stand
against passing another relief bill. It seems they have been hearing from the public
demanding more aid to small businesses, for unemployment, state and local
governments. Only time will tell wither Trump will sign such a bill or not.

Several of Trump's cronies who were convicted of law breaking, have been released
because they could be at risk of getting covid19 if they stay in prison.  To stay locked
at home for the rest of their conviction term. I find it interesting that these criminals
get a break while thousands of others must stay and risk infection.  Not dangerous
criminals, but similar to those who Trump thinks are great guys that shouldn't even
be in jail. Trump was likely going to pardon some of his cronies anyway, but this
gives him kind of a back door way to pardon them, as I don't think he wanted to
deal with the political flack their pardons might cause.

The Trump administration is still claiming they are going to have millions of
vaccines available by the end of the year. Most medical scientist are warning
against a hurry up job, and continue to claim it will likely be at least next
spring before a vaccine can be produced. I imagine a lot of people are going
to be skeptical about getting a vaccine that may not be safe. Leave it to Trump,
a man who always puts himself first, and the people second.

As we know Trump always claims to be for those in the Military. So why did he
want to dismiss national guard troops after 89 days of service? When he
very well knew one more day would make them eligible for benefits they other
wise would not be. When this was revealed to the public, Trump allowed them that
extra day. Just shows Trumps true feelings for those in the Military, and why he hides
much of what he does.



The number of infections in the U S is almost 1,600,000 and deaths are nearly 94,000.

World wide infections are over 5,100,000   and over 330,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 23, 2020, 01:11:44 pm

164 days to go, and the GOP controlled senate is back at work putting conservative
judges on the federal courts. In the meantime the covid19 relief bill, passed by the
house sits waiting for Moscow Mitch to put it up for consideration. A bill he claims is
just to help the Democrats and nothing else. Trump's cult may want to believe this,
but he  and the GOP leadership don't care if the people lose their homes, or go hungry,
as  long as they keep power.

Trump's cult members may feel conservative judges is a good thing, but one day when
they wish to sue a big corporation, a conservative judge will likely side with the big
corporation against them.

Trump's cult members may not care how corrupt Trump is, or how many of his
cronies rob tax payers as long as they stand against those people his cult hates.
The trouble   is when these people finally realize their mistake, Trump might be
gone, but the super rich could have what they want. Which is full control of the
country, and  if they do, those old cult members along with the rest of us will be
the losers. It's sad how little these people care about their future as long as those
they hate lose as well.

Trump cares nothing for those in his rally's, or he wouldn't lie to them, or mislead them.
He wouldn't make people think they could drink cleaning solutions if he liked them. Or
take a drug that can kill them under certain conditions. He claims he takes that drug,
but for all we know it's a lie, and besides he could be wearing a heart monitor in case it
causes his heart to act up. In a way it's rather odd how Trump is actually killing many of
those who  voted for him in 2016 with his lack of concern for this virus.

GOP governed states are putting many GOP voters at risk too by listening to Trump.
The southern states especially are starting to have increasing numbers of covid19
infections, and most of them  are governed by the GOP. Something that may change
in November if another wave hits.

Joe Biden made a comment that some people of color may not have liked. But if
they thing Trump will improve their lives more than Biden. They should check
both men for how to they have treated them  in the past. I am sure they will
find Trump cares little for anyone except rich white men.

Trump said the other day he wanted all churches allowed to  be open no matter what
governors wanted, and with no limitations. Apparently hoping this would  please his
evangelical  supporters. They might like Trumps demand, but it's likely to cause a
lot of covid19 infections and some deaths.

The number of infections in the U S is 1,600,000 and over 96,000 deaths.

World wide infections are over 5,200,000 and deaths are over 335,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 24, 2020, 01:13:59 pm

163 days left, and if Trumps followers think he is out to protect them, they are
fooling themselves. Trump only likes himself, and only works for himself and
those who will kiss his backside when he tells them to. If a white voter walked
up and laid a hand on Trumps car, he would likely have his body guard knock
them down, then have them arrested for daring to put fingerprints on his
property.

If you think not, this is how the very rich think and react when regular people
get close. They see regular people as a threat to them and their property. He
may act nice in a rally or on TV, but what you don't see is a group of
bodyguards ready to do anything he tells them to. Even to kill.

Yes Trump hates anyone who gets in his way, and it matters not if they are
Black white, or whatever their religion is. Perhaps his followers like him because
of his hate, but if they think he will work for them no matter what, they are
completely wrong.

This is why we should  never put any billionaire in public office. They generally
do not have any empathy for regular people. A few do when they get older,
and think they need to do good work to get into heaven. Well Heaven is a
concept left to the religious, but I have read rich people may have a hard
time going anywhere but down when they die.

It is sad, but a lot of people look up to the rich, thinking they are smart.
The trouble is a lot of rich people are just lucky. Some made it with
their intelligence and hard work, but it's hard to get really rich without
stepping on other people on the way up. I have been around a few
rich people  during my life, and nearly all of them thought more of
themselves than anyone else. I guess it's something they learn
while becoming rich. The trouble is, it's this lack of respect for
others that makes them a poor representative of the people, and
why the greatest leaders are chosen by others and not themselves.

Trump is spending this weekend playing golf, not at camp David,
but at one of his own resorts. Where he can charge the government
a lot of money for his being there. Money that goes in his own
pocket. Perhaps his followers think this is smart, or payment
for his work against those they hate.

Trump should be like the governor of New York. He is working
for the people today while Trump is on a golf course spending
tax money on himself. When Trump ran for office, he claimed
that he would spend all his time working in the white house. So
far he has only spent two thirds of his time in the white house
and the rest goofing off. He was a goof off before he was
elected, and will likely always be one.

Trump is the laziest president this country has had for over a
hundred years. He seems to think all he has to do is talk and
sign documents. Then return to the billionaire lifestyle he
enjoys. He never planned to be a working president. In fact
he never planned to  be president. The campaign was just
to ad value  to the name Trump. This is why he has done such
a poor job. He just tries to bully, con, and lie his way along. Then
hide his mistakes. Now he loves the attention, money he is making,
and power. So he will do all he can to keep the job.

Lately Trump is trying to say the numbers of infected and deaths have been inflated.
Supposedly to make him look bad. While in fact the numbers are likely much higher
instead. Because there isn't enough testing, and several states aren't properly reporting
infections or deaths.

The number of infected in the U S is almost  1,700,000 and almost 97,000 deaths.

World wide there are over 5,200,000 infected, and almost 340,000 deaths. from
covid19.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 25, 2020, 12:49:17 pm

Memorial day.162 days left and Trump does his presidential duty by laying a reef at the
tomb of the unknown soldier. One of the very few things he does we can be proud of.

It's sad that we have a president who's actions over the past several years lays
shame to our nation around the world. Now he refuses to acknowledge the
danger covid19 presents to the nation and  the people.

Unfortunately Trump continues to set a poor example for the people of this country
by not wearing a mask, and telling people they don't need to worry about covid19
and should go out and spend money. This virus is far from over, and with Trump
telling those who listen to him it's okay to get out again, just puts millions of 
people at risk. Trump doesn't care as he wants to be able to brag about the economy
again. To tell Americans how great he is, and forget about how  100,000 people died
mostly due to his irresponsible response to the virus in January of this year.

We can only wonder how many people  are going to die, because Trump wants to
be re elected, and will do or say anything to win in November. It's unfortunate
to see thousands of people out this weekend, apparently ignoring much of the
rules to prevent infection and or transmission of covid19.  We can only hope
this doesn't cause a surge by the middle of June.

All this while covid19 is spreading ever faster in parts of the country. In Alabama 
numbers of cases are rising so fast to overwhelm rural hospitals in that state. I
fear Trump is going to ignore this till the virus is killing several thousands a day
once more.

Yes it is true people need to  work, and businesses need to thrive again, but if
we don't test, and trace infections across the nation. Then quarantine those found
to be infected this virus will shut us down again. No matter what Trump or the
GOP want to happen. Across this nation the majority of the people want more
testing, and don't feel it's time to get out again. Be they Democrat or Republican.
It's the GOP members in congress who want to please Trump, by agreeing  with
his desire to open up the country much to fast.

The GOP leadership and Trump are encouraging people who claim they have a right
to go out and not follow government rules meant for their protection. To claim wearing
a mask is un American because Trump doesn't want to do so in public.  These  people
should be ashamed as their actions put many others at risk, as well as themselves, and
their families.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,650,000  and deaths are about 98,000.

World Wide the infections are over 5,300,000 and deaths are about 300,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 26, 2020, 01:04:17 pm

161 Days left, and with most states allowing limited opening of businesses, will this
lead to a surge in infections? It seems there are a lot of people not following safety
rules by not wearing masks or keeping a distance between themselves and others.
Although as we know the news media always looks for the worst to report, so they
 don't report so much on those who do follow the rules. This might be why Trump is
supporting the rule breakers, thinking this will help his poll numbers. When in reality
he is supporting a minority who already support him, and if anything it will hurt his
poll numbers.

It seems since Trump has tried to make wearing a mask some kind of a political
statement. Many of his supporters fail to wear them. This apparent plan by Trump
is just going to spread covid19 and will likely cost him votes by making many of his
supporters and their families sick, and unfortunately some may die.

Trump is threatening to move the republican convention if the planned city hosting
it doesn't allow capacity attendance that could number in  many thousands. Due to
contractual agreements this is likely an empty  threat, but it just shows Trumps desire
to again speak before a huge crowd after a few months of waiting,, and apparently
not caring how many might get sic or die because of it.

The Democrats are planning a virtual convention unless there is a safe way to have
one. In fact there are studies that say conventions do little for political parties anyway,
so they may be done a ways with completely in the future. I am sure many will disagree
as it's a big party many members love to attend every 4 years. Be they GOP or Democrats.

With millions of people out of work it would be a good time to start working on our
countries infrastructure. This would create tens of thousand of good jobs. The kind
of jobs that in most cases wouldn't require close contact. So will Trump and the GOP
see the possibility where this could help save them from a big defeat in November?
Because with unemployment nearing 40 million, they are in real trouble if the
economy doesn't return quickly, which it won't likely do without a big stimulus.

Somehow I really doubt if the GOP and Trump will work with the Democrats
well enough to get anything done before November, Both parties will likely
want to use this to pass things neither party would want to vote for, and
since Moscow Mitch knows the senate will likely switch to the Democrats
this November, he will probably want to  work on judgeship's instead.

Trump and the GOP are still against mail in voting. Mostly because Trump
is against it. It's another case where Trump doesn't take the time to study.
The GOP for years has pushed for mail in voting, as in many cases it has
benefited them with wins. Trump has it in his head it's just the opposite,
and the GOP feel they must agree.

The Post office is on the verge of running out of money, and the GOP
and Trump want to privatize it. This isn't new, the GOP has been
wanting to do this for many years. They passed a law that requires
the post office to have enough money  on hand to cover full
retirement of it's workers. This sounds good, but it is costing
them so much they don't have enough to pay their expenses.
Normally a retirement fund is built over time instead of all at
once as this improper law requires.

The number of people in the U S infected is over 1,650,000 and over 98,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections are 5,500,000  and over 340,000  deaths.


This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 27, 2020, 12:47:01 pm

160 days left, and Trump is complaining that Twitter is blocking his rights of speech.
All I can say is bless his heart, and his complaint is stupid as usual. All Twitter did was
provide a fact check ink under Trumps post. They didn't remove his post, or change it.
Apparently Trump didn't like there being a link, where people could check his facts Right
below his post. I mean since when  did his followers care if he lied or not. If anything
this complaint just brought attention to the dumb attacks he often makes.

Trump has been tweeting for the last few days now. Apparently wanting to divert attention
from the covid19 deaths that are nearing 100,000 in our country. I am sure he knows his
desire  to protect the stock market caused over 30,000 or more  deaths. I am sure he and
the GOP are fearing a big loss this November. He is already crying about the Democrats
planning to rig the election with mail in voting. This claim is nonsense, and there is no proof
that mail in voting helps the Democrats or hurts the GOP.  For years now the GOP
has been promoting mail in voting. It's just Trump's gut that fears it.

A black man was killed by police apparently due to excessive restraint. The four
policemen  involved were fired.  Vice president Joe Biden remarked he agreed fully 
with the firing. So far Trump has said little or nothing about it. Seems to me there
needs to be a change in how the police are trained. From what I heard on the news,
there was no excuse for this act. I fear this kind of thing is going to continue as long
as conservatives are in control of our government.   I am sure Obama wanted to stop
this kind of violence, but he had to deal with the GOP during most of his time in office,
and they had  little interest in working with him. 

It's a bit off topic, but the first launch of American astronauts to the international
space station  from American soil in 9 years is scheduled to launch today. The only
reason I brought  it up, is because Trump apparently plans to use the opportunity
to make a speech  that the space center.  Just more of his nationalistic promotion,
likely for his  re election. It is a proud moment for our country, but he diminishes it
with his verbal nonsense. 

The number of infection sin the U S is nearly 1,700,000 and deaths are over 99,000.

World wide the number of infections are almost 5,700,000  and over 345,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 28, 2020, 12:29:04 pm

159 days left and Trump continues his threat to social media. Apparently planning a
declaration to limit what they can say about the president, namely Trump of course.
For years Trump has used social media to vent his spleen so to speak. Since he became
president he has used twitter to lie to and mislead his followers, or anyone who takes
the time to  look at his posts. I think he is afraid he is going to lose control of this
valuable resource he uses to side step the news media.

Even members of the GOP have told Trump he should stop tweeting so much. I fear
Trump may go too far in trying to protect himself this time. I  am sure a lot of people
would be upset if he steps too hard on social media, and some of them may be his
supporters. Trump may have to learn the hard way he can't sop speaking rights 
the way presidents do in Russia and China.

Trump finally gave his condolences to the nation about the 100,000 deaths over the last
three months. Not on TV, but hiding behind a keyboard on Twitter. I guess he decided
just his twitter followers needed to see what he had to say.

The governor of New York did meet with Trump, and got a promise from Trump he
would get  back to him in a week or so. I would be surprised if the governor hears
much if anything from Trump. New York isn't going to vote to put Trump back in
the white house, and Trump  knows it. So I don't see Trump or the GOP doing
much to help New York.

This feeling by Trump and the GOP isn't just limited to New York, but nearly all
states controlled by Democrats. They seem to think this country hasn't got 50
states since only those run by the GOP count.

Trump never has learned that he is the president of the whole country, not just those
who voted for him. This is apparently why he ignores much of the needs of states
who didn't vote for him, This lack of concern for those who didn't vote for him has
held his poll numbers down below
50% throughout his presidency.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,700,000  and deaths are now over 100,000.

World wide infections are over 5,700,000 and deaths are nearly 350,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 29, 2020, 01:00:10 pm

158  days left and our country is in turmoil, and here we are with a president
who knows not what to do. His response is as expected, use violence instead
of leadership. Violence will only add more violence. What the people are
demanding is justest. While it is likely looting and damage to property is
due to a few, threatening to shoot them  is far from the answer.  Trump
needs to call for the arrest of those policemen who were involved with the
death of a man who showed no opposition, along with full transparency. 
It's not the job of the police to be judge and jury when arresting people,
and those who do have no  business as policemen, and should be subject
to the law as anyone else.

I understand those who serve as policemen need the same legal protection 
as everyone else, perhaps even a little more, but I think we need a law that
allows incarceration of officers  when a death is involved.  Especially if the
cause is apparently due to improper  actions by the police against minorities,
and or anyone's  civil rights.

This is a big problem with the far right. They see this response by minorities 
as a form of terrorism, and should be treated as criminals. Think not? Trump
has already said looters should be shot. He and the far right don't want to
fix the root of the problem, just put them in jail.  Minorities are human
beings, and should be treated that way. Law enforcement needs reform,
responding with violence just adds more violence.

I often bad mouth the GOP, but even Democrats  fail to  make changes that
must be done if minorities are to be treated properly. Often politicians take
the easy road, and not the hard one. This is why we must try to put good
people in office, and hold them accountable. As long as we just vote and
expect them to do their job without oversight we are just as much to
blame  as they are.

The GOP has a bad habit of making false claims  against the Democrats when
they fear a loss of power.  They put themselves above the national good. To
support the super rich over the common man or woman. It is true there are
good GOP members, but they tend to  be silent while Trump and their fellows
do harm to the country.

This is why all those who hold political office should have term limits.
To help prevent cronyism. People are subject to human nature and Greed,
and though most try to avoid it, politicians ten to forget who put them
in office. People like to  think they are special, and will do bad things
to keep power.  Only term limits can prevent this. Like all policies  for
the public good, it will take a public effort to make those we elect to
do the job that must be done.  Because they will find all kinds  of so
called good reasons not to do them.

Those who feel they must continue to demonstrate need to remember
covid19 is still with us, and is ready to infect those who do not take
care to stay separate  and wear masks when they can't.  If you
don't, you put yourself and family at risk.

The number of  infections in the U S is over 1,700,000 and deaths are over 101,000.

World wide the infections are over 5,800,000  and deaths  and almost 360,000.

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 30, 2020, 12:49:09 pm

157 days left and as I feared people who wish to discredit demonstrations
against police violence  are showing up at night to cause damage. To force
response by authorities. Apparently in hope of increasing violence and to
 turn the majority of white people against minorities and others who they
hate.

Though authorities will have to take control, I hope they can limit violence
to the innocent. Because many will find it hard to trust claims by government.
Especially if they see large numbers of police and military force against them.

I hope legitimate demonstrators report anyone who is obviously doing things
to harm minority interests. These people generally follow the far right, who
only see America for white people and the rich.

As bad as all this is, it is destined to repeat if violence against the weak and
minorities continues in the future. These people must be protected by the police ,
not attacked by them. Police must be trained to work against violence and not
make it worse. I think most police wish only to uphold the law, but unfortunately
some actually join law enforcement with a plan to harm minorities due to mistaken
ideas that they deserve it. Government entities must work hard to weed these
terrible misled people out, or nothing will change.

With all this violence, Covid19 continues to spread across the nation. I fear all these
big demonstrations will serve to  spread it even more. Trump, I am sure is happy to
see these demonstrations by minorities, as they divert attention from his problems
caused by his lack of leadership with covid19.  Now he will likely make terrible
decisions against  minority demonstrations as well. Even to put units of the army
on alert if needed. Also to invite his followers to stand near the White House. A
poor decision, with demonstrators there that could end up clashing.

Now he wants to pull support from the World Health Organization. Claiming  China
is running it. He continues to turn China against us with his dumb decisions.  We
depend on China for much of our medicine, and trade. He seems to think they will
continue to back down because they want our business. I fear this will push us
into a cold war with them. China is not the backward country it was during
world war 2. They could do a lot of damage to us if a hot war was to  ensue.

We must strive to  be friendly where possible. I doubt they would  want a
war, but there are limits people will put up with, and authoritarian leaders
want their people to  think they are strong.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,750,000 and deaths are near 103,000.

World Wide the infections are over 5,900,000  and deaths are over 360,000.

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 31, 2020, 01:19:12 pm

156 days left and last night we saw a 180 degree change from little or no law enforcement
to total and harsh enforcement. Though people were out when they shouldn't be, but a
group of peaceful marchers were attacked without warning. Even to attack the news
media who were attempting to cover this shock and awe style of attack, seemed to be an
unnecessary shameful police act.  I don't  doubt this kind of enforcement was needed
in other parts of the city of Minneapolis  But it seems the police were given full backing to
 do whatever they felt was needed, and government leaders are making excuses for them
this morning.  Claiming it was all necessary to protect the city. 

While there isn't any doubt there were those out to destroy and loot, there wasn't a lot of
evidence that it was a wide spread problem as city leaders are claiming.  The problem
remains that some in law enforcement go too far, and this must be curtailed  or nothing
will change. This over reaction by police showed it's ugly face in other cities last night as
well. 

The investigation of improper acts by the police should be done by a separate  entity.
Allowing them to investigate themselves often leads to coverups. Professionals tend
to stick together, and protect those they work with. Even a local prosecutor who
depends  on the police for help,  would find it hard to prosecute someone they
have worked with.

Trump and his yes man attorney general are calling these demonstrations the work of
the far left, and make little mention of the far right who there is evidence that it has
been involved most of all.  The far right want the American public to think minorities
are bad terrible people who must be policed closely. Especially African Americans.

The far right and Trump would like nothing better than to convince the American  public
we need our cities patrolled by armed troops for their protection. To watch all  those
so called dangerous  people of color.  Then claim they need Trump and the GOP to keep 
the  country safe, pure and clean, because the Democrats will let the bad people of 
color and the   LGBTQ  take over the country.

The pandemic has likely increased tension in minority communities, and this  likely has
contributed to these demonstrations. People of color have been most affected by convid19,
along with the resulting unemployment  would make things worse. Also the looting and
destruction allows Trump to forget about the reasons for the demonstration in the first
place. Trump himself has promoted harsher treatment by the police, telling them to
get tough. The job of the police is to protect, not to beat up on the public, no matter
who or what their race is. Yes the job is frustrating at times, but people who want
the job must learn to deal with it.

The number of infections in the U S is nearing 1,800,000 and deaths are almost 104,000.

World wide the number of infections is 6 million and the deaths are almost 370,000.

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 31, 2020, 10:19:55 pm
Before you make your post tomorrow, Old Rabbit, about George Floyd, protests, Trump, etc., I just have one thing to say
Watch the video. This woman hit the nail on the head concerning racism. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjtvDE0-XSU
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 01, 2020, 12:55:05 pm

Yes Kobuk she does tell it in a good way. Racism is learned and sadly it is virtually a culture in this
country. This country is moving away from white control, and the far right  wants to stop it. We will
get there, but I fear it will be a long sad road to travel. Once done this country will be all the better.

155 days left, and Trump has done what I figured he would do. Call the so called extreme left terrorists.
Then continue to ignore the actions of the far right who supports him. It doesn't surprise me that he
calls the left anti Fascist, because that type of government is what he wants. To be a dictator and run
the country just as he wants. Well Mr Trump we have a Republic. During World War 2 we and the free
world fought to stop the Fascist-Axis powers, and I don't think we will stand by and let you try to
create a Fascist state  here.

I hope demonstrations continue to strive to be peaceful, because looting and destruction just plays
into the far right, and Trump's dirty hands.

I fear by the middle of June we will see another peak wit covid19  after all these demonstrations.
Hopefully not, but shouting and being close favors the transmission of this virus, even with  a
mask.

Already many places in the south are suffering with growing infections, and many small hospitals don't
 have the intensive care facilities to deal with it.

A historical church in Washington D C was damaged by fire yesterday. There are concerns it
was caused by vandalism  tied to the demonstrations. Historically all but one president went
to this church the morning of their  inauguration. This makes one wonder if it was just ignorance 
or planned? Destruction of history harms everyone. Fortunately the damage was limited to a
basement nursery.

All this aside the Mississippi river may flood many towns along it's banks soon. Just more
problems we could do without.

The number of infections in the U S is nearly 1,800,000  and deaths are over 104,000.

World Wide the number of infections are over  6,100,000  and deaths are over 370,000.

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 02, 2020, 01:01:24 pm

154 days left, and Trump apparently thinks violence is the answer to the demonstrations
and destruction.  Perhaps this shortsighted plan of his will stop some of it, but unless the
reason for it is dealt with it will return. It was sad to see our president  declare he was
prepared to send heavily armed troops against American citizens.  Granted a few might
be armed, but he isn't sending our armed forces against a invading army, but unarmed
citizens. It was reported he just got off the phone with Putin of Russia. We can only
wonder why. We know how Putin deals with demonstrations, so perhaps Trump was
asking for advice.

While he was making this speech designed to please his voting base, he had ordered
the forceful removal of peaceful protesters lawfully demonstrating nearby. Just so he
could walk to a  nearby church for a photo op, while holding a Bible. As if he ever took
the time to read one. If he had he could have learned love others as you do your self is in
it's teaching. Something he apparently doesn't believe applies to himself.

He also made the claim he is a law and order president. Now isn't that a laugh.
He only considers this for anyone but himself, because he has broken many laws
and only believes in following those he agrees with. Apparently considering himself
above us all.

It's reported some GOP members are appalled  at Trumps actions, but as usual they
fear to  even speak out. Afraid Trumps followers won't vote for them if they do.  If
they stood together Trump would likely back down, because he is nothing but a
bully at heart. 

We must vote to remove Trump this fall, or he will continue his rain  of
terror against minorities and anyone who stands against him. We are
fortunate the GOP lost in 2018. If they still held the house of representative,
It's likely he would try to gain absolute power over the next 4 years,
claiming it would be for the better good.

Trump and the GOP should be working with the Democrats to stop Covid19 and
left the states deal with the lawless themselves. The problem is Trump isn't
capable of leading, he is just a money hungry con artist wanting to keep
his job as president.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,800,000 and  deaths are at 105,000.

world Wide the number of infections are 6,200,000  and death are over 374,000.

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 03, 2020, 01:00:38 pm

153 days left, and who ordered the use of a medical helicopter to intimidate
a group of peaceful protesters? This smacks of Trump, because he wouldn't
likely care how dangerous it was. Not only to the crew flying it, but to the
people on the ground if a mechanical failure was to  occur. Also it was reported
the rotor blades struck tree branches. I  rather doubt if the pilot could tell
how close to the tree and how large the limbs were. Striking a large limb
would have sent the craft to the ground at once. likely causing the deaths
of several people.

The pilot ought to lose his license over this. No matter who ordered  him
or her to do such a irresponsible act. Because a pilot is always responsible
for the safe operation of his craft.

All the low level flights over crowds of people shouldn't be allowed Unless
it in a emergency. I know some of these military pilots are thought  to do
tight maneuvers. This is acceptable in wartime, but not over civilian crowds.
I also know some pilots become careless and take unnecessary risks. This
is why all pilots are checked for bad habits biannually, and Some even more
often than that.

Over the past few decades, it seems law enforcement has gone from
serve and protect, to grab and attack anyone they see as a threat. People
of color, or anyone that looks different becomes a target to many policemen.
This business of going after someone by looks alone must change. I know
most law enforcement agencies try to eliminate anyone who can't deal
with being treated disrespectfully, but it seems a few always slip through.

Democrats have been trying to pass laws against inproper treatment or mishandling
of people taken into custody. Trump and the GOP seem to  think it's just fine to use
violence against anyone who doesn't  bow and scrape to authority.  It is true we can't 
stand by and allow people  to break laws. But this looting and destruction wouldn't
have  likely  started in the first place without police violence against people of color.
 
Demonstrators are asking for justice, to hold accountable policemen  who break laws,
and  kill people of color, for any excuse they want to use. I really don't know who taught
those in law enforcement that violence works, because it's just the opposite. Violence
just causes more violence. People may be cowed by it for a time, but they will strike
back if pushed far enough.

The secretary of defense claimed he didn't know Trump was going for a photo op, so
why didn't he turn his back on Trump when he found out? He also claimed he was
trying to keep politics away from the military. Well he sounded more like a politician
than anything else, and the use of federal police to forcefully clear peaceful demostrators
from a park for Trump benefit, was definately political. I wish the news media had asked
the secretary who he pledged his loyalty to, the constitution, or Trump? I have a
hunch he wouldn't have told the truth, because Trump demands loyalty to him
first and the constitution second.

 The number of innfections in the U S is over 1,800,000 and over 106,000 deaths.

Worrld wide the number of infections is over 6,400,000  and almost 380,000 deaths.


 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 04, 2020, 01:15:50 pm

152 days left and who are the camouflaged dressed guards standing in front of
the White House? They have no identification showing on their clothing. We can
only wonder why. With Trump they could be anyone, even part of a private
army of his followers hired by him. We know Trump continues to have  his
private bodyguards with him. Apparently because he still doesn't  trust  the
secret service completely. While it is common for the super  rich to have a lot of
 bodyguards, and we know Trump does because he is a coward. President Jimmy
Carter bravely  spoke to protesters while Trump hides  in a underground safe room,
or behind a  line of federal police.

Trump is apparently feeling that he is being unfairly attacked by retired  military 
generals  due to their comments about his lack of leadership and attacks by him
against the constitution.  I imagine Trump is especially bothers, because he bragged
on these men and now they are turning against him. Even his secretary of defense
is speaking out against his policies.  Trump wants to be compared to Winston
Churchill and president Bush, but neither of these men would stoop so low, or
turn against the government the way Trump has. Trump is more like Hitler than
any other man of history. A man who brought fascism and hate to his country.

Protests continue across the nation, not just over one man, but for all innocent
people of color who are abused and killed by police in this country. Most policemen
and women do serve and protect, sadly a small number seem to think people of
color are all dangerous criminals. Sadly organization set up by the police themselves
stand against prosecution of their member officers for almost any police action
they might do. Even violent  acts of beating people who are handcuffed. These
organizations don't just protect their working rights, but apparently tell officers
how they should mistreat people of color. Seems if fellow  police want to speak
out against this feel threatened and mostly stay quiet.

It's these organizations who are making it difficult to make real changes in the 
way police  treat people of color. Some leaders of these organizations have been
seen at Trump rally's,  So that shows us they have very conservative leanings, if
not fascist. Hopefully change comes sooner than later.

Attorney General Barr spoke out apparently to back up Trump trying to explain
the government position on protesters and their control by law enforcement.
As we know Barr is one of Trumps yes men, and should be treated as such.

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,800,000  and over 107,000 deaths. due to covid19.

World wide the number of infections are over 6,500,000   and over 385,000 deaths.

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 05, 2020, 01:19:06 pm

151 days left and president Trump is ecstatic over a very small improvement in
employment numbers. The improvement was for white workers, the numbers for
African Americans got worse to over18%. Teenagers went up to 29%. These numbers
Trump is bragging about are mostly due to people returned to word because of the
loans offered to businesses if they rehire their workers. This money runs out in
July, so the real story will be told in August. -

Trump continues to claim how great the economy was before covid19. This of course
is a lie. The economy was down to half the prediction Trump and the GOP were making
in 2017 of almost 5%. Numbers worse than they were during Obama's last year in office.
Of course as we know if it's good he claims it, and it it's bad it's always someone else's
fault. No matter what it is.

No matter what Trump or the GOP want to say, Tens of thousands of small businesses 
are going  bankrupt, and their employees will have to find other jobs. Jobs that are likely
going to be very hard to find for many months to come. A business can go bankrupt in a
month, but can take a year to  start, and with so many out of work, money is going to be
tight. The small improvement in employment came at a cost of over a trillion dollars. I kind
of doubt if the GOP is ready to spend even more trillions to make another small improvement.
If they don't I think their re election is in doubt, and Trump's too.

Trump can brag and his voting base can cheer, but if people don't have a job, and the wolf is at
their door, people are  going to vote to save their family.  The GOP and Trump better learn this
or both of them will be history, where they truly  belong.

 Demonstrations continue and it appears Trump didn't want to  see them by having a tall fence
erected.  To hide them, or more likely to hide his fear. Just as all dictators do. It would be interesting
to know what Trump really does all day, as he sits in the oval office. I wouldn't be surprised if
his feet rest on his desk, as he leans back  in his big cushioned office chair while watching Fox
News or Rush Limbaugh on TV bragging about him. And pouting when others tell the truth about
him. There are reports that he shouts at the TV when he doesn't like what he see's. I wonder how
many TV's have been wrecked by him  throwing paper weights at them.

The number of infections in the U S are over 1,800,000 and deaths are over 108,000.

World wide  infections are over 6,600,000 and deaths are over 390,000.

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 06, 2020, 01:04:45 pm

150 days left and Trump seems to think covid19 is behind us, or just
wants the American people to  think so. he apparently wants to move
on to law and order plans against protests across the nation. Plans he
likely thinks will give him more voter support from his far right cult. The
GOP senators, even after all the discussing actions by Trump, still run away
when confronted by news reporters. Especially if asked about Trump.

In spite of the wishes by Trump and the GOP covid19 is still with us, and
unfortunately killing 1000 people a day and shows  signs of increasing.
Nevada, and Utah both are running out of hospital space, both states
may be forced to close businesses and have people stay home again 
soon. Of course Trump would not like this at all, and likely call the
state leaders names if they did.

The GOP and Trump are looking for any excuse to not spend anymore
money to help stimulate the economy. The GOP never wants to  spend
money on anyone but their rich supporters. They want to privatize  social
security, and medicare. To get rid of medicaid and any aid to the poor.
To let the states deal with it.  The GOP fears big government, they believe 
too much government will destroy the country, and the economy.

It is true past governments have failed because they grew so large their
economy couldn't support it. But in most cases it was more due to corruption
than the size of government that caused  them to fail. Seems the GOP is
too corrupt to accept this reality. 

Trump continues to promote Fascist policies by having his attorney
general install an army of secret police on the streets of Washington
DC.  I say this because they have no identification of who they are. Trump
apparently did this because the U S military opposed deployment against
U S citizens. Our military has the right to disobey any order that is unlawful,
and when Trump found that out he turned it over to Attorney general Barr. 
A man who thinks president Trump can do no wrong.

Trump apparently thinks the police should act as if they are at war, to attack
anyone who disobeys. Not just arrest, but to put fear into those they stand
against. Trump has come out in the past to cheer on foreign governments
who use deadly force against people who stand against tyrannical  leaders.
So it shouldn't surprise anyone when Trump tells law enforcement they
should be tough, and use violence if they wish.  I think Trump would
encourage them to use deadly force if he thought he could get by with it.

Trump is apparently terrified of demonstrators  as he  has had installed
a high fence all around the White House. Not only that he has had more
streets barricaded as well. This along with Barr's secret police surrounding
the area. This isn't necessary, because the White House has enough safeguards
to defend against civilian demonstrators, and has underground exits if needed.

To me if Trump wants to look strong, the last thing he should do is turn the
White House in to  a fortress he can hide in. A strong leader shouldn't fear
peaceful demonstrators. But Trump is a coward through and through. Only
brave with a army to protect him.  Typical of any dictator. 

The number of infections in the U S is over 1,900,000 and over 109,000  deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 6,700,000  and almost 395,000 deaths

 This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 07, 2020, 01:22:15 pm

149 days left and our infamous president is freaking out. Because his own
poll numbers are showing he is likely to lose in November. No matter what
Trump claims, he knows he just squeaked out a win in2016. So you can be
sure his election team is warning him about losses in voters who voted for
him before, and won't likely vote for him again. Of course Trump doesn't
want to believe this, partly because poll  numbers showed him losing last
time. So he figures this could happen again and win anyway. All he thinks
he has to do is get his base out to vote. A voting base he has done little to
build since his election. If anything his voting base has shrunk.

Those voters who wish to see Trump removed, can't allow themselves to think
Trump is destined to lose, and not vote. Thinking Clinton was  going to win is
how Trump won last time. We can't assume anything  because his voting base
is full of dedicated voters, so it will take all the votes Democrats can muster to
secure a win. This includes down ballot voting, because even if Biden wins he
will need both the house and the senate to get anything done. Because the GOP
will do all they can to block Democrats and their legislation.  Also state and local
governments will need progressive members or nothing much will change.

Society must be adjusted so people of all races feel they can trust each other. Other
wise I fear change will be slow to happen. People naturally feel more comfortable with
others of their own race. Unfortunately  this tends to keep people of various races 
separate. History shows us that all across the nation how people have set up towns
inside of cities, where people of various races live together. It appears to be due to
culture and other beliefs that cause it. Where one person of a different race might
manage, groups become isolated from the larger community. Then over time people
become distrustful of each other. Mostly due to a lack of understanding, and lies
that mislead. Lies corrupt politicians often use trying to get elected. Over time people
start believing them.

I don't have the answer, but if we don't work to build trust and justice for all races, society
will continue to  suffer, and minorities will the most. One problem is the civil war didn't rid
the country of slavery, just changed it from  ownership to maltreatment of Black Americans.
Southern states started passing laws that put restrictions on Black people. The U S constitution
was amended to give them protection, but left a loophole allowing laws that virtually kept-Black
people enslaved.  The K K K became a vigilante committee of white people who wished to keep
Black people in their place. as they saw it at least.  In later years this terrible committee of
far right people resumed about a hundred years ago. Then faded into seclusion. I think they
still exist, just waiting to show their ugly sheets once more, and likely support Trump.

Democrats led by the black caucus are planning to pass a bill to put limits on how police can
treat people across the nation. I really doubt if Trump will sign it, even if the GOP controlled
senate voted for it, and that is in real doubt. This is just one more reason people need to get
out and vote. If the GOP keep control of the senate, little or nothing will get done. Just as
Moscow Mitch did to Obama, you can be sure he wouldn't vote to  put a moderate on the
supreme court. Or anyone nominated by Joe Biden.

Democrats are working hard to registered people of  color, so they can vote
this fall. I am sure republicans are doing this as well. One thing voting by
mail will be allowed in my state of Missouri, only thing it must be
motorized. This means people will have to fine a notary and pay to
have this done. Only bright note is people 65 and older arnt required
to do it. No one should have to in my opinion.

The number of infections in the  U S is over 1,900,000 and almost 110,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 6,900,000  and deaths are over 398,000.


This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 08, 2020, 01:01:59 pm

148 days left and the Democrat controlled house of representatives starts
work on a comprehensive bill to put limits on police across the nation.  It
includes creating a registry where bad behavior by anyone doing police
work will be listed. This will help prevent someone from being fired in
one town and rehired in another. Where they would likely repeat
similar bad behavior.

Racism by police isn't new, early in our history policing developed from
groups of vigilantes who went after poor immigrants and Blacks since\
they were poor as well. It's sad, but many people look down on the
poor as having less importance  as the wealthy white majority. So
it's no wonder racism shows it's ugly face among the police,  because
the white majority turned their back while African Americans were
lynch , shot, whipped, and worse of all executed by the state
without proper justice. This isn't limited to blacks, but similar
treatment is served on other minorities as well.

This control by white Americans is ending, but not without  a
lot of crying and fighting by conservative far right groups.  People
who fear change and loss of control, so it will require standing  up
for rights and voting in large numbers to put people in government
who are willing to  make unpopular changes. 

Democrats aren't perfect, but they are willing to work for the poor,
and minorities. Where the GOP mostly support the rich. and yes there
are many good people who call themselves republican, but the people
they elect often are not. Officials who through greed or desire for power
lie and cheat to get elected. They know how to make people feel they
need to elect them, even to go so low to use peoples hate to win.

Trump and the GOP will likely not support demonstrators and their
desire for change. Trump seems to think he can win riding the peoples
desire for law and order. If Trump truly did believe in law and order for
himself, it might be a good plan, but Trump thinks laws are for the
masses, not for him, or his rich friends. As long as he feels this way,
he will never understand those who are  demonstrating.

To remove police from our society, a replacement must be found first.  I
hope people realize this, because otherwise we would end up with a
criminal pandemic without some kind of protection.  Not only that
a lot of people would likely shoot anyone they perceived to be a
danger to them, just as some do now. 

The number of infections are over 1,900,000 and over 110,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is  over 7 million and deaths are over 400,000.


This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 09, 2020, 01:22:23 pm

147 days left and calls to change how police do their job continue. Not so much to
removed them from society, but to remove them from dealing with social services.
 A mentally ill person  often needs professional help, not rough handling by a
policeman who has no idea how to deal with them. Many times when the police
respond to social violence, what is needed is  understanding not threats that
often leads to more violence. If it's found force is necessary  then further
assistance could be requested by first responder's. Most police calls don't require
military style force, they often end up taking down information instead. Many
officers  may never even pull their fire arm out of it's holster during their career.
Most  don't want to, because it leads  to all kinds of paperwork and questions.

Change will be slow to come, because many people don't often see the police
as a personal threat. Also many police unions will fight to protect their members
from changes they don't like. They hold a lot of power, much like the N R A does
with our federal congressmen. They will consider these changes as a threat, even
small changes as a foot in the door so to speak. It will take strong public support
to make significant changes to a service many look to for  protection.

George Floyd's death will only bring changes if the general public demand it.  So
demonstrations will have to continue, and people will have to  vote, otherwise
needed changes may slip away as many have in the past. Corrupt politicians
know the public generally has a short memory, and feel all they have to  do
is delay and it will be forgotten. Only if they feel it will cost them votes, will they
stand up and do their job. Otherwise they just do what people with money want
them to do.  Unfortunately Trump and the GOP follow the money instead of the
votes if possible.

The number of infections in the U S is about  2,100,000 and deaths are about 112,000.

World wide the infections are over 7,100,000 and deaths are over 407,000.


his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 10, 2020, 01:10:19 pm

146 days left and a hearing in the House judicial committee was held today about
police violence.  Typically GOP members talked about how bad black people are
treated, then turned around and defended Trump and his law and order claims.
We can see just how much the GOP cares about law and order, by how they
defended Trump during his impeachment. Instead of holding him accountable
for his unconstitutional actions, they found him innocent of all charges. If they
truly cared about law and order Trump would  be gone from the White House and
likely charged with several crimes. 

It the GOP still controlled the House of representatives this one hearing might be
the end of their concern. As in the past they talk good, but do next to  nothing. So
it's likely the Democrats will have to carry the ball, and perhaps a few brave GOP
members will risk bad tweets from Trump and do their job.

I really don't see why GOP members worry about Trump,  few people he has supported
have won elections over the past 3 years. Yes they probably would lose Trump supporters
but they aren't the only people who vote. Many independents and moderate republicans
do not support Trump, and would likely vote to re elect GOP members that stand against
Trump and his authoritarian designs for this country.

 As long as Trump and his cronies are in control of the government, minorities, women,
immigrants  and lgbtq will continue to lose rights. Not counting loss of clean air and
greater pollution of the  environment. Trump made a claim the other day about how
clean the air has gotten since he  took office. He failed to mention that it's due to covid19
and how it's shut down the economy.  He never fails to take credit for good and always
blames others for whats bad.

People had to wait 3 hours and more to vote in the Georgia primary yesterday. The
secretary  of the state of Georgia had excuses, but failed to explain why poll workers
waited till the  day of election to see how to do their job.  Also nothing to say about
why voters in white areas didn't have to wait long at all.  I don't think it's just a
coincidence that voting there was easy, and  hard for minorities, when this is common
under GOP control.  The GOP fear voters who vote with their head, and won't listen
to GOP lies. 

Trump is trying to claim a 75 year old man faked a fall to blame police as a cause
for it. To say the man was a far left radical. I suppose the blood was supposed to
be fake as well. This is just more of Trump trying to gain more votes from his
far right base. I have a hunch it cost him a lot more than it gained him. I imagine
as election day grows near, Trump will grow even worse. 

It was reported that  the defense chief had to argue Trump out of sending army
troops out across the country. Later Trump claimed it was just for the area around
the White House. Just another one of his lies to cover his stupidity.

The number of infections in the U S is almost 2,000,000 and the number of deaths is almost 112,000.

World wide the number of infections are over 7,200,000  and deaths are over 410,000.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 11, 2020, 01:22:19 pm

145 days left and Trump is planning rally's again. first one in Oklahoma very soon.
Trump apparently thinks it's safe to have thousands of people in a closed environment.
I doubt is many will be wearing masks, or keeping separate. Trump doesn't like open
rally's because it's hard to keep unwanted people out. The last thing he wants is non
supporters in his audience. They might shout embarrassing questions of him. He expects
his followers to listen and not question anything he says, because  in his mind he is a
genius, and looks down on everyone else. I think he  is putting all of his followers at
risk because his poll numbers are dropping almost daily. I will say this, if these  fear
rally's of his cause thousands of new infections among his followers, he may wish he
had stated home.

I am sure Trump will claim the economy is quickly growing with millions returning
to work. We can be sure he won't mention the  21,000 businesses closing permanently,
leaving  their employees without a job.  He won't likely mention over 41 million people
are still out of work, and we can be sure he won't tell his rally goers it will take years
before the economy is anything like it was before the pandemic.

Trump can lie and mislead all he wants, but the man or woman who is out of a job, and
is force to wait in line at a food bank to feed their children. Isn't likely to believe him after
a few months. This doesn't count the numerous people across the nation who will likely
end up bankrupt owing hundreds of thousands in medical bills, due to a virus Trump
refuses to deal with. With no health insurance after losing their job, and Trump
promoting private health insurance that pays little unless you can afford their good
plan, you better not have any health issues, or you can forget any kind  of affordable
health insurance with Trump and the GOP in control.

Many of Trumps supporters will cheer his claim that he is for law an order. Trump
knows he can play on their fears, and hatred  of homosexuals and abortion. He
claims he has gained religion, even though the only religion he looks to  is the
one based on the almighty dollar and the power it brings to him.

Since taking office  Trump has worked hard to  get rid of regulations designed to
protect our environment, using the excuse they cost big businesses to much, and
harm the economy. Not only that he has opened federal lands to mining, and
deforestation. Both of which cause pollution, and harm wildlife. Speaking of
wildlife, Trump has done away  with restrictions on hunting Wolves, Bears  and
other wildlife in Alaska's forests. This was done so his son could have hunting
parties for the pleasure of the rich. These pristine forests have also been opened
to  logging and mining that require the building of roads that do permanent
damage  to the land, and rivers.

Putting a man like Trump in the White House is like putting a fox in control of a
chicken house. They care little for the future, and grab what they can for their
own benefit. If Trump is allowed to spend another 4 years as president. This
nation and it's people will suffer greatly. Pollution will rival that of the 1960's.
where big business had little or no restrictions  on where they dumped
their waste.

The confederate battle flag has been band from some racing events , and many
statues of confederate  generals and leaders are being removed or damaged.
Many of these statues were erected  in the 1960's due to opposition to the civil
 rights movement for African Americans in southern states. Requests have been
made to change the names of any military base named after confederate
generals as well, but Trump is opposed to doing this.

The number of infections in the U S passed 2 million and deaths are over 113,000
Predictions  of over 200,000 by September have been made.

World wide the number of infections are over 7,200,000 and over 416,000 deaths.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 12, 2020, 01:13:39 pm

144 days left and Trump spent the first night away from the White House
in months, and of course at one of his resorts. He never stays where some
one other than himself might profit from it.

Trump is claiming his rally in Oklahoma is a celebration. I very much doubt
it is anything but a rebuke of the demonstrations that are happening across
the nation.  Because the date is an anniversary of a massacre of 300 African
Americans and destruction of a black community  a little over a hundred years
ago in Tulsa. Committed  by white extremest. Apparently because a black
man was caught  looking at a white woman.

Also this rally appears to be an experiment by Trump to see how many it may
are infected with covid19. I say this because his campaign is telling those who come
that they agree to not hold Trump responsible if they catch the corona virus
while there. Also they are told to  not wear masks or be separate.

Trump is opposed to limits put on the police, claiming it's a lot about  nothing.
Just a few bad eggs. Trump is blind when it comes to  race  relations. Just doesn't
seem to understand why they are complaining. The only reason he is in the White
House, is because African Americans didn't listen to  Obama and go vote like they
did when he was running.

I think Trump is worried about the rebuke he got from the military over his plan to
use them against demonstrators. I think he considers them a force of protection as
other authoritarian leaders do around the world.  Loss of their favor means they
won't come to his aid if he decided not to give up the presidency,  claiming the
election loss was do to it being rigged  against him.  I think he looks to  the
police the same way. He used his attorney general to  clear a path to his
photo op. A man who tells Trump he can do anything as long as he feels it's
for the good of the country. I wonder how the Attorney General would feel
if Trump turned against him unjustly? Would he change his mind?  Barr has
no business as attorney general as he see's  the presidency as he would a
king on a throne.

Since Trump took office, he has been on the phone to authoritarian  leaders
around the world. Inviting some to the White House and his Florida  resort.
We can only wonder what he has discussed with them. I think there is a good
chance he has been asking advice about crowd  control,  and how he might
keep the presidency. Even to fix elections. I hope I am  wrong, but the
number of phone calls to Putin of Russia adds suspicion.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2 million, and deaths are over 114,000..

World wide infections are over  7,500,000  and over 420,000 deaths.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 13, 2020, 01:24:21 pm

143 Days left and Trump spoke to West Point graduates. Trump a man who avoided the draft,
claiming a foot problem. Yet he golfs, and when you see him walk, shows no limp. Trump spoke
of honor, yet he has none. Cadets promise to be honest and never cheat, something Trump
doesn't follow or understand. Trump spoke of loyalty to the country, yet he wants to keep
confederate statuary which dishonors the very country he claimed to support. He refuses
to change names of military bases which were named after confederate generals and  leaders.
Men who led a war against the united states. Men who were traitors, yet Trump apparently fails to
understand,we shouldn't glorify historical traitors. Yes they are part of our history, but they belong
in a museum, not as a symbol to be proud of.

Trump apparently decided to keep his speech low key. Turning out to be rather boring and misleading
at times. Claiming he alone was making America stronger. This of course is a lie, work to improve our
military had been in work before Trump took office. He didn't mention how he is putting our  country
at risk, by pulling troops out of Europe, and not giving NATO the support it needs.  We must continue
to support our friends if we want them to help in our defense.

Trump best learn the United States military isn't his personal guard, or follow unlawful  orders made
by him. They are to support and defend the constitution, not the president or his cronies. In 2016
Trump did gain votes from members of the military, but reports are he has lost a lot of support since
being in office. They pretty much know a con artist when they see one.
 
So far most of the GOP leadership has tied themselves to Trump, but they may change
their tune as election day grows near.  Because Trump is likely going to try crazy ideas
hoping to gain in the polls. Trumps desire to start rally's is dangerous to party supporters
and will likely spread covid19 over the next few months. Not  counting his mad desire to
have a big convention. Filled with GOP supporters, many who are at greater risk of  covid19
due to their age. 

I have a hunch the actual number of far right supporters isn't nearly as large as it appears.
Yes many show up claiming support of Trump, but their support is rather shallow. Because
they often walk away when they see trouble headed their way.  More of a mob mentality
where numbers are needed to hold the group together.  It takes leadership to stand alone
for a belief. Trump pretends to be a leader, but doesn't know how. One needs a moral center,
and intelligence, neither of which describes Trump. 

The number of infections is over 2 million and deaths are over 116,000.  True numbers are
getting hard to find as GOP controlled states are hiding actual numbers of infections and deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 7,700,000 and deaths are over 425,000.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 14, 2020, 01:06:31 pm

142 Days left and another African American is killed by police. Apparently because
he was running away. After seeing a policemen murder a African American in
Minnesota , I can't blame any man of color for running from police. Yes most
police aren't out to kill black people, but how can they tell who won't when
facing arrests? From what I saw on video, this man should have only been given
a summons to appear in court. Since he was found to drunk to  drive they should
have told him to park and call for a ride.  After all he was found on private property,
not on the highway.

Actually the people at Wendy's should have sent someone out to tell the man
to wake up and move. If he refused, then they could have called a  tow truck,
and left the tow truck driver call the police if needed.

This is more proof that better training for police is needed. The GOP and
Trump seem to think it's find for the police to use violence when dealing
with people. Perhaps in movies where a actor points a gun and says
make my day, looks cool. But it doesn't work that way in real life.  Most
people if treated  properly, will obey, without force or violence. A good
police officers have a good understanding of human psychology, and
can prevent a serious situation from going bad in most cases.

Perhaps one day will have police androids that can be programed to do
a proper job in all cases. But for now we must use humans to deal with
humans. So unfortunately  due to human failings the police can loose
their temper and do bad things. This is why they need training that
tries to make sure they can control their anger when called names
or attacked for doing their job.

The Democrats are pushing to improve training for police, and the GOP
isn't objecting too much yet, but Trump wanting voter support from
the far right and police may not want to sign a bill that puts a lot
of limits on them.

If we use some of the money spent for police to help people, it will
likely be better spent. People become frustrated when they have
to do without, not because they are lazy, but because they are
treated unfairly. In the past when the police walked a beat, they
knew people, and the people -knew them. Over time the police
became more mobile in vehicles. Then they lost that connection
they had with the public. That loss of human connection has  led
to misunderstandings on both sides. We need to reconnect so
the public see's the police as human beings and not just a
badge ready  to step on their necks.

Democrats are far from perfect, but if we don't vote to remove
Trump from the White House, and put the senate back in the
hands of Democrats. Little will change. In the past decade
the GOP would talk when something bad happened, but stall
allowing the public to forget, and end up doing little or nothing..
It seems  our politicians want to turn law making over to the courts.
I think this is why the GOP is putting all those conservative judges
in federal courts.  To make legal decisions they don't want to  be
directly responsible for. It's time our politicians got back to  making
their own laws. I don't know if the Democrats will get it done, but
we can be sure the GOP and Trump won't. 

The number of infections in the U S is almost 2,100,000 and over 116,000 deaths. due to  the
GOP and Trump wanting to hide infections and deaths, these numbers are likely incorrect.

World wide the number of infections are over 7,700,000 and deaths are over 425,000.


his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 15, 2020, 01:12:00 pm

141 Days left and the LGBTQ community have something to feel good about.
The supreme court voted 6-3 to protect homosexuals and transgenders from
being fired from a job because of their sexual orientation. There are still some
discriminatory action to be address, but this is a good decision, considering how
conservative the court is. It would be better to have legislation that protects sexual
rights for Americans, rather than depending on the supreme court, who's decisions
depend a lot on the judges political leaning.

Just another reason to flip the senate to Democratic control. The GOP for the most part
doesn't favor changes in lifestyles. Mainly because they are chasing voters instead of
human rights. People should remember, the senate is there to do what is right, not
just what the  conservative crowd or the president wants. The GOP  leader of the 
senate has lost sight of this and just thinks the senate should stand for GOP conservative
values alone.

Demonstrations for human rights continue across the nation. Demanding justice for people 
of color. To tell the government black lives do matter. Demanding the police respect the
lives of African Americans and other people of color. Some states and cities are making
changes, but will they hold police accountable when and if they fail to  follow the law. Failing
to do this, bad policemen will continue to do terrible things.

The GOP and Trump best come to understand this, or many of them will find themselves
out of a job in January of next year.

Trump did change the date of his rally in Tulsa Oklahoma from the 19th to the 20th,
claiming  he did it because he wanted to respects his Black friends holiday.  Now it is
rather interesting  that he said this, because in a interview he said he wanted it on
the 19th as a celebration. Of what, he didn't say.  I think most of us know how Trump
thinks when it comes to African Americans, and I doubt if many believe Trump is their
friend.

Covid19 is spreading, and in some places worse than it was in March when states closed
down their economies. I wonder when hospitals over flow, will states start making
restrictions again, or not?  Some may feel the corona virus is just a disease  affecting
the elderly, but I have news for them. People in their twenties and thirties  are dieing
from covid19. So when you join crowds of people without a mask, or keep separate,
your risking your life. Being young may lower your risk, but you can put your family
at risk if you happen to Cary the disease.

Some claim they are just risking themselves, and have a right to do so, but unless they
stay away from others. they would put them at risk, which they  don't have a right to do.
I have a hunch these same people would want to sue if they caught the virus while in a
business crowded with people.


The latest numbers of infections in the U S is over 2,100,000  and deaths are almost 116,000.

World wide the number of infections  are over 7,900,000 and over  432,000 deaths.


his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 16, 2020, 01:15:14 pm

140 Days left and Trump claims to sign a executive order to put limits on
policing in this country. Well I see this is him playing politics, trying to
overshadow the Democrats. Well any order he signs will only affect
federal officers. Local and state are beyond his control. Even if he
wanted to do so. His order is supposed to start a national database
for police officers and their improper use of force. While this is a
great idea, who is going to enforce it? This and any other part of
his order is limited to federal police. Only the legislature can
create laws  that affect local and state officers.  I am sure Trump
will try to boast that he really cares about how  minorities  are
treated by the police. Though in the past we have heard him
encourage tough treatment of those arrested.

As usual  Trump makes a good speech, but it takes more than talk  to make
changes to a  bad system. He claims only he knows how to  fix what the
demonstrators want. One could ask why has he waited over 3 years to fix it?
I think the truth is he doesn't  really care. He spent more time bragging on the
police than how he wants to fix it. Then turned his speak to more of a political
rally than one about making the policing in this country better.  Even to lie about
 Obama and of course   didn't mention that he dismantled work Obama did
toward making policing better. All because he doesn't respect people of
color.

His talk about the economy does little for the people of color. So as usual
Trump never understands the their needs. He might be able to con white
people, but not African Americans, or others of color.

The main problem with policing in this country is the lack of accountability.
Many departments already have policies that supposedly put limits on
officers use of force, but they aren't enforced. When a officers uses
excessive  force, there is an immediate amount of protection comes
to play. Not for the victim, but for the  police officer. While police officers
need to receive fair treatment. Justice for those who are the victim of
improper use of force must take immediate priority.

Covid19 marches on. Most states are putting their economies  over  the
lives of their population. While businesses need to be open, Peoples
lives need to take priority.  Yes the public is tired of fighting this  virus,
but our leaders  must stand strong to control this virus, or it will cause
the  economy  to  suffer  in spite   of the wishes of the business 
community, Trump or the GOP.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,100,000 and deaths are over 116,000.
While infection numbers are going up due to more testing, it is still spreading in
spite of the GOP or Trump wanting to  say otherwise. I fear this virus will be out
of control by fall. Mostly Due to lack of concern by many.

World Wide the number of infections are over 8 million, and deaths over 437,000.



his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 17, 2020, 01:08:39 pm

139 Days left, and Trump made a campaign style speech yesterday,
claiming  he cares about people of color. Trump lies when he claims to 
care  about his white followers much less people of color. Trump likes
to bring people to his speeches as props, hoping the public will be
impressed by them. His one black member of his cabinet is nothing
more than a prop when he needs a black man to stand with him.

Trump lied when he claimed Obama didn't do anything to stop police
harassment of African Americans. He knows it's a lie because he dismantled
Obama's work soon after he took office. Trump lied when he claimed the
Democrats didn't work to change policing, because he knows the GOP
stood against any efforts to do so during Obama's presidency.

Trump and the GOP have no real interest in stopping violence  by the police
against people of color. Yes they have a luke warm bill that politely asks the
police to be good, and not use choke holds on those they arrest. The Democrats
have a bill that makes choke holds illegal, but Moscow Mitch of the senate claims
their work is an over reach, because, in his opinion laws affecting police should
be up to state and local governlments. The problem with this is there is no
guidence. allowing each department to treat people however they wish. It's
just more of the GOP's bottom up way of governing. Which allows local control
by intemidation.

I agree sometimes it's best to let loacls make laws that fit their situation better,
but  it can allow for corruption, because powerful people use this to make laws that
benefit themselfves, and not the public.

Trump and his followers, along with the conservative media apparently want the
public to believe the corona virus is on it's way out, and no longer a threat to
the public at large. Even to claimthe reports that the virus is spreading is just
a Democratic ploy to make Trump and the GOP look bad.

This is nothing  but a  pack of lies that Trump and the GOP are pushing, because
they are worried if the  economy doesn't come back strong befor the election they
will suffer big losses. This shows they don't care if thousands of people get sick and
many may die. Just as long as they can hold power.

The GOP governors claime the only reason infections are increasing is due to more texting.
This is partly true, but in many states hospitals are starting to fill again. Some to critical
levels. Still Trump and the GOP do not want to close or limit business operations, even in
states like Florida, Alabama, Arizona, and Texas where hospitals are filling fast. Now Trump
wants to  start having big rally's again. This will increase the spread of covid19 even faster.
His first rally is in Tulsa where the virus is at it's highes levels. Trump has his VP out claiming
there is nothig to worry about, so thousands plan to go putting themselves and their fammlies
at risk, because few will wear masks.

The number of infections in the U S is almost 2,200,000 and number of deaths is almost 117,000.

World Wide the number of infections is 8,200,000 and deaths are nearly 450,000.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 18, 2020, 01:12:20 pm

138 Days left and the supreme court puts a stop to Trump and his desire  to
remove Dreamers from the country. People who were brought here as children.
Many who have if sent to their country of origin, would have no knowledge of it's
culture or it's laws.  This act by Trump is opposed, even by his own party. But
if Trump and the GOP hang on to power, Trump will likely try once more to
remove these people. He or the far right doesn't care that these people
do much for our society, instead of being a burden, they do more for
the country than many citizens do.
 
I hope Hispanics see this  as more of a delay than as a win, because Trump
won't give up.  So they best vote for those who support Dreamers, and they
best not believe GOP members who suddenly support them now.  It's sad,
but the only people Trump and the GOP care about his their rich supporters.

The two decisions by the  supreme court this week shows just how important
the removal of Trump is. Because if he is returned to the White House, he will
over the next 4 years put 2 or more judges on the supreme court. An we can
be sure they will be hard right conservatives, who may serve for as much as
40 years. Hopefully if nothing  else I hope there are enough  vote  to flip the 
senate to Democratic  control.

It's time the GOP and far right are made to understand that it's immigration
that makes this country strong. No matter their race or color of skin. To do
this will require a lot of votes, because the GOP and far right are very
determined to hold power,. No matter how dumb or racist  their ideas are,
and the longer they hold power, the harder it will be to remove them.

Covid19 continues to spread no matter how much Trump and the GOP want
to ignore it. Trump claimed it's going away, he pressures GOP governors to
hide numbers of infections and deaths where they can. To not talk about
how full hospitals are becoming in their states. 

Trump even makes false  claims of treatments and how quick vaccines
will be available. There is  a report that Trump plans a October surprise
where he will claim a  vaccine is ready, even if it is not. He would not
care if it failed to protect  or made people sick or dead once he was
re elected. Think not? If you still believe his lies, I wish you luck, because
a lot of smart people don't. In fact  they call Trump a moron and a danger
to the security of the nation. If the GOP cared about the country, they
would have voted to remove Trump last January. A vote that would have
likely saved up to 50,000 lives with Trump gone.

The number of infections in the U S is almost 2,300,000  and over 118,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 8,300,000 and almost 450,000 deaths.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 19, 2020, 01:06:43 pm

137 Days left and even though Tulsa is showing a big growth of covid19  Those who like
Trump are going to listen, and perhaps get a view of the man they see as their savior. 
Well be that as it may, it's likely they will end up just spreading the virus to  their friends
and family. If Trump really did care for his followers, he would want them to  be safe, and
not lead them into danger with a Rally he desires above everything else.

Trump has tweeted a not to subtle warning, that any disruption would be met with over
whelming force.  Hopefully this doesn't end up with a riot. Something Trump would blame
anyone but his self for if one happened. You can be sure there is an escape plan for himself,
and testing for anyone he gets close to. Though he claims the virus is going away, he makes
sure he won't catch it. He wears a mask when he thinks the media isn't around. Because he
thinks wearing one in public makes him look weak. Unfortunately this has become political, and
many of his supporters won't wear one. 

It's likely Trump is having this rally because of his poor poll ratings. Last report by Fox News has Trump
12 points behind Biden. Others show him even farther behind than that. So you can be sure Trump is
sweating, and not sleeping well.

It's still a long time till election day, so anything could happen to help Trump or hurt Biden. You can
be sure Trump is going to come up with lies about Biden and  the Democrats. Reports are he begged
the leader of  China to help him win. Even to offer a reduction in tariffs if he did. Just more proof
Trump cares more about himself than the country.

If you see any advertisement  where Trump brags on a news service, just expected  to lie for
Trump's benefit. It's unfortunate, but most conservative services are doing just that. It's sad but
several of the super rich support Trump and the GOP. They apparently fear the Democrats will increase
their taxes to help people they consider as lazy. In reality people who are poor isn't due to laziness, but
mostly due to misfortune.

It is strange how the GOP ignores the public at large.  Around 80% want proper treatment of African
Americans, and a similar amount feel the GOP and Trump aren't taking the virus seriously enough.  Yet
the GOP just follows Trump and his lack of leadership. Most of them know better, but fear Trumps wrath.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,200,000 and over 118,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over  8,500,000 and 453,000 deaths.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org






Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 20, 2020, 01:28:19 pm

136 Days left and Trump's fixer attorney general Barr fires the federal prosecutor  in the 
southern district of New York. It appears Trump was unhappy with his prosecution of
a Turkish business that the authoritarian leader of that country wanted stopped. As
we know Trump supports many authoritarian leaders around the world. Including
those of China and Russia. This type of lawlessness is another reason Trump must be
removed from office. Not only that the leader of the GOP senate who is complicit with
 many of Trumps lawless acts must be removed as well.

If these people are allowed to continue running the country, our democracy and
freedoms  are at great risk. All these people who are loyal to Trump, the mos
corrupt president in our nations history will work to put an end to our democracy
in favor of an authoritarian system  of government.

When the supreme court failed to  support Trump, he made the ignorant statement
that those on the court must not like him. Just more evidence that Trump has little
or no understanding of the judicial system. Courts do not make decisions based on
liking someone, they make decision based on the law, and the constitution.  To do
otherwise would throw the country into a state of anarchy. 

The GOP controlled senate continues to only follow the wishes of Trump and their
rich supporters.  They continue to support lynching  and choke holds by police.
Turns out the GOP receives a lot of campaign funding from police unions, so they
don't want to  upset this money cow with laws that adversely affect the police.

In 2016 the GOP stood against Trump until he got the nomination. Then after
this bad mistake they started to fall in line behind Trump. In 2017 many still
stood and  voted to start an investigation of Trump and his connection to Russia.
But after Trumps cronies in congress came to his aid, and with his threats to those in
the GOP who didn't support him. Nearly all  fell in line by 2018. Even after GOP had
big  losses that year, they still failed to  hold Trump accountable. It was then Trump
hired a new attorney general, a man who see's the presidency almost as a king. So
he has since worked hard to defend  Trump instead of the people of this country.

So over the past year Trump with the help of  Barr and the GOP senate felt he could
do almost anything, and got impeached because of this. But the GOP controlled senate
failed to  remove him, apparently fearing Trumps cult of voters.  Soon after Trump
trying to  save the stock market ignored the dangers of covid19, and almost 120,000 
people have died largely due to his incompetence.  Even with Trumps terrible record
the GOP  want to re elect him. Not because he is a good president, but because he
gives them much of what they want, and likely fear his supporters.

People attempting to protest Trumps rally need to remember he always calls them
private meetings, so he can have police remove anyone he doesn't approve of.  If
his rally's  were public he couldn't get by with that, and this is why he calls them so.
Because he doesn't want to deal with protesters who would disrupt his speeches.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,200,000 and deaths are over 118,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 8,600,000  and deaths are nearly 460,000.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 21, 2020, 01:14:34 pm

135 Days to go and could we be seeing the end for Trump? A rally in one of the
states that gave him a 26 point win in 2016 was lack luster at best. I am sure
Trump and his cronies will put a nice spin on it, but a Oklahoma stadium designed
to hold 19,000 people had thousands of empty seats, and few if any supporters
outside.  It's probably true that many stayed away fearing covid19, but Trump
claimed  it would be full to overflowing, with thousands outside waiting to see
him as well. It was interesting that even before he spoke inside there were workers
tearing down the outside stage he was to speak from. Reports said he appeared
to be very angry when he started his speech. I am not surprised, because Trump
really hates to appear as a loser.

Only more Rally's will prove that his popularity is lessening or not, but I have a good
hunch his next rally will be held in a smaller stadium, where he will be sure there are
no empty seats. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have been in charge of setting up
this rally, because I am sure those that were, ended up with a trip to the White House
wood shed, and may be looking for another job by now.

The Trump campaign claimed there  were nearly a million ticket requests for this
rally, but rumors are many teenage pranksters may have requested most of them. Now
I am not saying I approve of this, but it's kind of nice to see Trump on the bad end of an
internet scam for a change.

Another Trump supporter is pushing the  conspiracy that China  created covid19. This
has been proven false already, but the Trump campaign seems to think it will help them.
It's sad, but I am sure those in his cult are ready to believe anything Trump claims as
true. It's always seemed strange to me, that people who don't want to believe the
government, are willing to listen to a liar like Trump.

-I suppose many of his supporters remember back when factories generated a lot of  good
jobs, and now many of them have moved out of the country. I think like most, people often
remember the good things much better than the bad. I don't know about factories in the
cities,, but those near where I live never paid all that well, and treated their workers almost
like slaves. Factory jobs are quickly being replace by automation and robots. Unlike the past,
technology is making it possible to do the work of thousands. Something big business is happy
to move to. Because robots don't complain and work faster. with little expense to their owners.

Trump and the GOP claim they are for jobs, but they don't talk about benefits or wages much if
at all. In reality Trump has done little since being president to create jobs. Most were created in
spite of him, not because of him. Now the corona virus is ruining all of his gains. Trump and the GOP
promises  affordable health insurance, but the low cost insurance they talk about gives poor coverage,
and those with existing health problems aren't likely to be able to afford any insurance they can find.

Trump and the GOP claim they want good affordable health care, but they are doing all they can to get
rid of the ACA (Obama care) A program to provide affordable health insurance, even for those with
existing health problems. Something many will need after losing the coverage they had with a lost job.
because most insurances won't accept a person back if they are a poor risk.

The number of infections  in the  U S is almost 2,300,000 and deaths are near 120,000.

World wide the number of infections is  over8,800,000  and deaths are over 461,000.

his takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 22, 2020, 01:04:35 pm

134  Days to go and Trump plans to go to Arizona and speak in a mega church
that seats 3000 on Tuesday.  Another inside meeting that will put many at risk
of catching or spreading covid19. Trump just might get a full house this time as
his religious  followers may believe GOD will protect them. I wish them well, but
I have always believed GOD gave man a mind to use for our own good. But
many still think a church is a sanctuary. So be it, but many have died or gotten
sick in a church.

I understand  our dear president is very mad, because his grand rally in Tulsa
Oklahoma became an embarrassment instead of the celebration he planned it
to be.  Hopefully he won't blow a gasket if things continue to go bad for him.
It would make a terrible mess if all that hate inside him got out. Especially 
in a big church. 

Arizona like many other southern states are suffering from a surge of covid19.
Hospitals are being overloaded, and even some are talking about requiring a
return to a shut down,. Trump of course wants us all to  think the corona virus
is behind us, and to get out and  spend money, work and act as if all is normal
again. I think the poor attendance to his rally should show him people aren't
going to believe his lies about the virus.  At least most won't. 

It appears Trump and the GOP can't understand  what all the demonstrations
are about. Oh they talk with some sympathy, but when it comes to making
changes they start making excuses. Trump even called the Black lives Matter
demonstrators outside his rally bad people.

Trump claims he knew nothing about Barr's firing of the southern district
of New York's federal attorney general. It appears Barr and Trump didn't
keep track of what each other was doing, and made a big mess out of what
they hoped would be a easy job of putting a yes man in place of the one who
wasn't protecting Trump or his cronies properly.

Trump ran saying he would get rid of corruption, and drain the swamp, but
instead he has made it all worse. Because it's all about him and staying in
the office of the president. He doesn't care about the country or the people.
It's all talk, and little of anything else.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,300,000 and over 120,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 8,900,000 and over  467,000 deaths. 
All this in the first 6 months.

 
This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 23, 2020, 01:04:21 pm

133 Days to go and the house of representatives are trying to investigate Barr attempt
to fire the federal prosecutor of southern New York. So far he hasn't come up with a proper
reason for this action. Previously he did much the same in Washington DC. It seems on the
orders of Trump to protect his cronies.

Today their hearing is about testing, and the federal response to control covid19. The
Trump administration has been slow to provide testing for the population. Though they
have often claimed  they are doing a good job. This country has fallen behind other
countries in testing, apparently because Trump doesn't want to see infection numbers
growing with large numbers of tests. Perhaps he hasn't directly told the CDC to slow
testing, but he certainly hasn't encouraged them, and hasn't from the beginning. The
only place he has pushed for testing is for those who work around him.

Trump still continues to push for fewer tests for covid19.  Claiming it will just make the
virus  appear to look worse than it is. Doctors claim we don't have enough testing no
matter  what the president says. Personally I believe doctors over Trump,a man, who
is know for his thousands of lies. All Trump cares about is his re election, not even his
supporters. If  he did he would be telling them to wear masks, and not gather in
crowds.

Covid19 is still spreading in Arizona, Texas, Florida,  Alabama, and several other states.
Some with hospitals to overflowing. Most with GOP governors who refuse to even report
numbers of infections and deaths, because they want to please Trump. They like Trump
are putting the economy over the lives of the people. In the beginning deaths were mostly
in the elderly population, but now numbers are growing in the younger crowd,  Yes in for those
who are 20 to 30 years of age. Perhaps this will get the attention of the younger generation,
who might not be all that worried about the elderly.  Especially GOP congressmen and
senators who might be at risk.

Overnight demonstrators were attempting to tear down a statue of the confederate president.
This statue is in a park near the White House, and Trump ordered it's protection. Claiming he
was going to make a declaration to make it illegal to damage federal property. Well Trump doesn't
have the power to create laws, and he should know federal property is already protected by law.
It's likely he just said this as political boasting to please his cult of voters, and if 3000 people
show up at his church rally in Arizona, he will brag about the support, even though he put a
lot of people at risk.

Between now and election day we can expect Trump to do just about anything he thinks might
get his voting base to vote for him. He is already making life miserable for many people.
Especially immigrants and people near our boarder with Mexico. What he doesn't understand
is people along the boarder don't really like what he is doing, and may cost him states that
boarder Mexico.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,300,000 and the number of deaths is over 121,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 9,100,000  and the number of deaths is over 471,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 24, 2020, 01:03:34 pm

132 Days to go and Trump is leading his flock  of voters and our country to
disaster. I am sure they see him as a savior for the country, but he is not.
He is using them to benefit himself. If they get their way, and Trump and
the GOP keep power, we will lose our democracy and Trump will grow more
powerful with  his authoritarian control over the country. If his health holds 
he will attempt  to continue as president beyond  2024.

I think Trump in his delusions see's authoritarianism as  not only a way to
make himself  great, but to allow him to make the country great as well.
He wouldn't be the first mentally disturbed man to  ruin a country with
delusions of grander.  Unlike other authoritarian leaders, I don't think
Trump consciously wants to harm the country, he is letting others tell
him what to do, and unfortunately he is listening to the far right who
have convinced him only they can keep him in office, and they know by
using his desire to stay president they can get him to do whatever they
want.

The far right is playing a dangerous game, because Trump is unpredictable,
giving them a few gray hairs each time he makes a decision  on his own.
Hopefully he will lose bad enough in November, that he has no real chance
to dispute the results, because he is already hinting the election may be
unfairly stacked against him with mailin voting, and he and the GOP will
try to invalidate  a close loss.

Covid19, in spite  of Trump and the GOP is nearly as bad as it was in early April.
Still, Trump and the GOP are trying to tell the public there is no reason to worry.
They want to claim testing only makes the virus look worse, even  with hospitals
filling, and having to send patients to other hospitals in other cities. Intensive care
beds are running low, and health care workers and doctors are close to  exhaustion.
It is likely if people continue to go without masks, and ignore warnings against
large crowds,  a stay at home order will have to be imposed once more.

If Trump would tell his followers to wear masks, and stay out of crowds it would
help a lot, but Trump apparently thinks this mask controversy is benefiting him,
so has no plan to stop it.

Attorny General Barr is apparently trying to help Trumps friends by blocking their
prosecution in federal courts. This is likely because Trump is afraid a pardon would
cost him votes.  By doing this Barr is damaging the rule of law. I am sure Barr will
do all he can to help Trump win in November, because a loss means he is gone
as well. I have a hunch there will be a flurry of  pardons if Trump looses.   

The number of infections are over 2,300,000  and deaths are almost 122,000.

Around the world  the number of infections are over 9,300,000 and deaths over 475,000.
With the large serge of covid19 in the United states, European countries are considering
to not allow visitors from the U S.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 25, 2020, 01:17:34 pm

131 Days to go and Trump is saying covid19 hot spots will occur, but
I don't see it as bad as the fake media does, and I won't shut down
the  economy  to please them. Now these aren't his actual words, but
it  appears to  fit his thinking. Trump appears to be going on gut instinct
instead of following the facts. Facts he doesn't like, so he ignores them.
He doesn't care if it puts a lot of people at risk. He only cares about
winning in November. Something he has wanted above all else since
he won in  2016.

The GOP controlled senate is trying it's best to make the Democrats look
like they are preventing passage of a bill to limit improper attacks by the
police. They wanted to pass a weak bill to please their supporters, and
Trump, but the Democrats said no. Trump has tried to upstage the Democrats
by signing an executive order to put his own limits on police. Only thing is
this order is for federal police, but Trump hopes it will fool people into
thinking he cares about limiting excessive force by police across the nation.

If the election was held today Trump would likely lose in a landslide. Polls
show him down over 10 points in some battleground states. If this trend
continues Democrats will have to worry that voters may think they don't
need to vote, and Trump could squeak out another win. Of course if his voters
could decide Trump can't win, and they might stay home. I think this worries
the GOP more, because it would likely cost them elections across the nation.

If people wish they could get out, they should imagine what handicapped  people
have to  deal with. Many of them can't get out at all. So people  should be ashamed
to put other lives at risk, just because they are tired of staying home. I along with
many visually impaired people have a hard time going out. The world is designed
for the sighted, not the blind, and we have it easier over people stuck in bed or a
wheelchair  to get out and about. So I don't feel sorry for those stuck at home waiting
for covid19 to go away.

Speaking of the virus, thousands are getting infected and sick every day across the
nation. hospitals are so full they can't accept patients that don't need immediate  care.
Unfortunately GOP controlled states are doing little  to slow the spread of covid19. The
most they do is to just ask people to  stay home or wear a mask, while Trump wants
people to just treat the virus like the flu, because he fears a weak economy for safety
would cost him the election.

The number of infections in the U S is about 2,400,000 and deaths are about 122,000. These
numbers are suspect due to Trump and the GOP trying to cover up real data. So real numbers are
likely much higher.

World wide the number of infections is over 9,400,000  and deaths are over 481,000.

This gets you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 26, 2020, 01:37:54 pm

130 Days to go and will Trump realized  we need more testing, not less? The
trouble is Trump from the beginning seemed to think if we don't look for, or
talk about the virus  it will go away. This childish attitude is the big reason
there is so much infection, sickness and death  from covid19. The sad thing
is the GOP has gone along with this madness when they could put an end to
Trump's craziness and work for the people instead of themselves.

There is a very good chance this virus will do even more harm to the people
and our economy if Trump and the GOP continue to deny reality. This virus
can't be talked out of existence, no matter how bad Trump and the GOP
want it to go away.  They best face the facts, and follow the science, or
they just might be voted out of existence.

I can understand how Trump might think a single party system would be
a good idea, but those GOP members in the senate should know better.
 In the early to mid 1800's we had single party control, and it led to a
disaster, and  the destruction of the controlling party. Without opposition
people often carry ideas to the extreme. For good government we need at
least a two party system, to give moderation to ideas.  To argue the pros
and cons.  Because following extreme ideas harms many people. To be sure
it would  please some, but it causes division that damages us all.

There is a chance the Trump administration may promote batch testing, where
they combine swabs from 100 people, and test it as if it was just one  person.
If if turns out negative they know all 100 are okay. If it's positive they have the
100 checked again and the swabs tested individually. Other countries  are doing
this, and it speeds up the process quite a bit.

The house of representatives is discussing making the District of Columbia the 51st
state. It seems the GOP oppose this, and make all kinds of excuses why it shouldn't
be made a state. It's likely they fear the addition of 2 senators that would probably 
be Democrats in most cases. They don't care that a quarter of a million people have
no representation at all in government. They pay more taxes than most Americans as
well.  It's just more of the GOP wanting to keep control.  I think it's also a race issue as
many of the citizens are African Americans.  Like the same reason the GOP opposed the
addition of Puerto   Rico as a state due to their opposition of non white people. 

Trump's lackey VP spoke today, and did his best to  put a good spin on a serge  of infections
and the filling of hospitals across the  south of the country. He even claimed the fact that
more young people are being infected is a good thing. Somehow I don't think they would
agree with him.  He claimed the number of deaths are down. For now that is likely true, but
lets see if that holds over the next few weeks. Deaths from this virus often follow a serge a
few weeks later.  Though Trump wasn't there in person, you could hear him through the way
his VP talked. claiming  Trump cared more for the people than the economy which is a lie. Trump
and the GOP care more about the economy than lives, and have said so.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,400,000  and deaths are over 122,000.  These numbers
are likely too low, as the GOP  and Trump fear real numbers and work to hide them.

World wide the number of infections is over 9,600,000 and deaths are over 480,000.

This gets you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 27, 2020, 01:35:00 pm

129 Days to go and there is a report that Russia put bounties on coalition
forces in Afghanistan. including U S forces. Trump has known this since
march, and apparently is ignoring it, and not putting any punishment
on Putin or Russia. Of course Putin of Russia is denying it, along with
the Taliban.  This story isn't likely to go away, and Trump is already
calling it a classified  matter, apparently wanting to hide it from public
view.

Trump 2016 plan for his re election appears to be failing. Biden being
a politically moderate older white man,  doesn't fit Trumps attack very
well. So far he is calling Biden weak, or saying he his hiding. Well Biden
has been speaking out doing virtual town hall meetings. Biden is smart
enough to wear a mask, and stay out of crowds. Trump may think holding
rally's  that put a lot of people at risk for covid19 infection is smart, but
I doubt if many of his older followers are going to agree.

People who in the past liked Trump's boasting and going against the
established way of doing things, seem to be changing. I kind of think
putting ones life at risk doesn't make them feel all that good, or losing
grandparents to the cemetery does either.

Another problem for Trump is he never has tried to build his base of voters.
Just assuming if he can get all of them out to vote he will win.  He should
remember he just squeaked out a win, and lost the popular vote by nearly
3 million votes. Even without his incompetent work against covid19 he would
have had a uphill battle. It is true anything could happen between now and
November, but time is running out for Trump.

The number of infections in the U S is over  2,500,000  and deaths are  over 125,000.
Total infections could be 20 times as much as been reported in the U S.

World wide the number of infections are nearing 10 million, and deaths are close to 500,000.


This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 28, 2020, 01:18:58 pm

128 Days to go and presidential wannabe Tom Cotton, and along with senator Moscow Mitch claim
making Washington DC, and/or Puerto Rico a state would march the  country toward  socialism,
because they expect both would add Democrat Senators, and would work toward expanding the
supreme  court to 12 judges. A disaster in the opinion of the GOP as they know the  GOP is\
under attack, and can't afford any shift in power.

This just proves why Moscow Mitch has worked  so hard in packing the federal courts with far
right  conservative judges. He knows the country is moving away from conservatism, and by
filling the courts he can delay any movement to the left.  Perhaps to give time for the country
to move to the right again. So the super rich can continue to  run the country.

Trump appears to claim he wasn't aware that Russia was putting a bounty on U S troops in
Afghanistan. This would be just as bad as knowing it. Because if this is the case it shows
how inept his political appointees are.  I have a hunch Trump has known all along, and just
doesn't want to  do anything about it.  I think he wants to keep favor with Putin so he can
expand his real estate empire into Russia after his presidency.

Covid19 is spreading fast across the south. Even Trump's lackey VP decided there is a danger for
him to make a big entrance in Arizona or Florida. Instead he is just meeting the governors of
each state.  I think this is interesting because the VP just made a speech about how well the
country  is dealing with covid19. I guess he is still learning how to lie from his boss.
We can only wonder how long Trump and company continue to lie about covid19. I have a
hunch if Trump got the virus, they would try to cover it up.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,500,000 and deaths are nearly 126,000, the highest
number in the world for any country.

World wide the number of infections are more than 10 million and deaths nearly 500,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 29, 2020, 01:18:02 pm

127  Days to go and Trump seems to be working hard to downplay the report where
Russia was offering bounties to the Talevan if they kill U S Forces. Claiming he hadn't
heard about it until now. So we can only wonder why not. Trump claims he only hires
great people, so what's their excuse? We can't believe anything Trump says, so time
will tell.

Now GOP members are wanting to ignore this and call it a hoax instead of wanting
to know what is really going on. I am sure if this had been Obama instead of Trump
they would be hopping up and down wanting to know why nothing had been done to
stop it. It seems the GOP unlike in the  past want to give Russia a free pass, because
Trump demands it.

The covid19 virus isn't under control in GOP controlled states across the south. Mainly
because GOP governors are afraid to do what is needed, which to mandate mask, and to
close businesses that are known to spread the virus. It's unfortunate, but many young
people seem to think getting this virus is much like catching the flu, and tend not to
worry about it. Trump just makes it worse by making the act of not wearing masks
a political  statement.

The wearing of masks though important isn't any guarantee of safety  especially when
your in a crowd. The masks are mainly to  keep a person from giving the virus to others,
and won't do that much to keep a person from catching it. This is why separation is so
important, and why crowds must be kept to a minimum. Young people must understand
it's for the protection of others why masks must  be worn.  Our rights must be limited  when
our actions put others at risk.

The Black lives Matter movement is still going strong in spite of Trump and his cronies in the
GOP senate who wish to ignore it. Our government has ignored the needs of black people
whenever it could over the years. Especially when the GOP is in control. The GOP want to
call themselves the party of Lincoln, but do little to protect the rights of African Americans.

I hope they stand strong, because politicians often try to wait out protests in hope they will
go away. It appears the protests are having some success, but they best stay at it at least  till
the election in November. After that most GOP politicians will just look the other way.

The number of infections in the US is almost 2,600,000 and almost 126,000  deaths.

World wide infections are over 10 million and deaths are about 500,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 30, 2020, 01:11:05 pm

126 Days to go and Covid19 is on the march across the southern and western United States.
Europe is restricting travel from the U S because of how covid19 is spreading, and how many
in the  U S  aren't using caution when out and about. Not wearing masks or trying to be
separate.  Much of this is due to president Trump and his lack of leadership.  For some reason
he wants to make any and all response to covid19 political.

The story where Russia is putting a bounty on U S troops isn't going away in spite of Trump's
denials. He claims he wasn't told, but unless there is good evidence the story is not true, not
knowing  is no excuse at all. Because those responsible for telling Trump and others have
to be held responsible for failing in their job, and if they can prove they did, Trump failed
to serve and protect as he swore to do.  Then we must ask, why isn't Trump calling out
Russia to stop, and giving punishment even now?  As usual Trump doesn't want to say anything
bad about Russia's  president.

In a Senate hearing a leading doctor said the reason for the current increase of covid19 is due
to  premature opening of non essential businesses and locations. This would include churches
and anything that has large numbers of people together. Also the  lack of the proper use of
masks, and separation.  He predicted infections could reach 100,000 a day if needed  actions
fail to be taken very soon.

It appears Trump is for White Power as he re tweeted  a video showing someone shouting this. The
white house is trying to  say it was because Trump didn't hear it, or he wouldn't have retweeted it. 
The trouble with this claim is Trump has said "I hear everything.".  I am sure Trump's re election
team is pulling their hair out over things like this. I have a hunch they will be bald by November.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,600,000  and deaths around 128,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 10,300,000  and deaths are over 505,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 01, 2020, 01:14:22 pm

125 Days to go and Trump must be feeling the pressure as he had the secretary
of state trying to explain away the Russian bounty on our troops. So how come it
took 5 days for Trump to come up with an excuse? If this explanation is true, Then
why didn't they use  it when the story first broke?  Instead Trump has worked to
hide the fact he wants to protect the Russian president. A man he desperately wants
as a friend. Trump best wake up, Putin his no ones friend but his own, and the same
can be said about the Chinese leader.

Though Trump claims he reads his intelligence briefings, there is evidence  he doesn't
pay a lot of attention to them. Trump from the beginning has said he doesn't believe a
lot of what he is told by intelligence professionals. Instead he makes decisions based
on his so called gut feelings. This of course is a dangerous way to run a country. It
likely was the cause of his bankruptcies in the past, and a very good reason not to
vote for him  in November.

With independence day this weekend, a lot of people are going to have a hard time
staying home. I think many of this anti covid19 complaints are due to people looking
for any excuse to get out. So it doesn't surprise me they are wanting to use Trumps
 anti mask crap as an excuse as well. I heard one woman use the excuse that no one
she knew was sick. Well I am sure a lot of people could say that. It depends on where
you live and work.

The city in Florida that Trump wants his political convention at is planning to require everyone
to wear masks. Not wanting his supporters and convention delegates having to wear them was
his reason for moving it. So I wonder if he tries to move it again?  Since Trump likes his rally's
and meetings inside, he may try to claim personal privilege for himself and GOP delegates. 

Demonstrators continue to call out for change in how police treat minorities. It seems a
lot of  police just out of training are convinced by older officers  that black people can't be
trusted. I  think it would be a good idea to have spies looking for this kind of activity.
Because young recruits  often seek out advice from older members of police departments.

Perhaps leader of the GOP controlled senate Moscow Mitch is worrying a bit about his chances
for re election, because I heard him telling people they should wear masks, and the wearing
of them might be a little uncomfortable, but a good idea. He wasn't wearing one at the time.
So his intentions may be suspect.

The supreme court struck  down a anti abortion law that required doctors to have access to
a local hospital, or they wouldn't be allowed to preform abortions.  This would make it very
difficult for doctors, as many hospitals would rather not be connected to abortions. So it would
have forced many woman to travel hundreds of miles for reproductive care. Though this is a
blow to Trump, I am sure anti abortionist will never give up. 

I am not a fan of abortions, but a woman should be able to choose personal medical care, and
not be force to have children by those who claim to care for the unborn, yet after birth these
people often wish to ignore the needs of poor children.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,600,000, and deaths are over 128,000.

World wide infections are over 10,500,000 and deaths are over 511,000. 

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 02, 2020, 01:10:59 pm

124 Days to go and Trump is claiming the economy is roaring back. Just because of a
3% improvement in job numbers. I wonder what he will say when July numbers come
out? This improvement doesn't reflect job losses starting during the last 2 weeks of June,
and continuing into July.

Trump's claims of job improvement fails to include Black and Brown people  across the
nation. Their job numbers did not improve, in spite of Trump's lies to the contrary. Trump
still seems to  think he can lie his way out of problems. Hide his mistakes, and fire those
who won't support his misleading statements. He apparently can't understand the difference
between running a country and a business.

I have a hunch the GOP and Trump are going to point to this job improvement  as an
excuse to not extend federal unemployment benefits beyond the end of July. Along
with no more relief money for small businesses or the population either. If you think
they will later. Remember the house and Senate shuts down til early September, and
with it being an election year, many will want to be out campaigning.

If Trump persists in having a full  blown convention for his official nomination to run  for
president. It's likely it will cause another serge of infections for GOP delegates and those
around the area. It's time Trump stops thinking only about himself and to put the people
first for a change.

It seems there is a push to reopen schools for students to be in classrooms this fall. I
understand many would benefit, but it will likely put teachers, school staff, and the
families of said students at  risk of infection. Hopefully considerations will be made
to protect vulnerable people. We should have quick tests available first, because 
children often don't exhibit any symptoms or even a fever, while able to spread
the virus to  those around them.   

Trump still claims this virus will just fade away, just as he did over 3 months ago. Even
with over 125,000 deaths he  doesn't want to admit this virus isn't going away. Only a
vaccine will allow us to return to any kind of normal. Even a vaccine doesn't guarantee
protection. The influenza  vaccine is just a bit more than 50% effective.  Deaths will be
greatly reduced, but  many will still get sick as they do with the flu.

Trump continues to call Russia's bounty on our troops a hoax.  His latest excuse is
because Russia's president said it wasn't true, and Trump always believes anything
Putin tells him. Trump constantly makes claims of confidentiality, but he is the greatest
risk to our national security. We can only guess what he may have told Putin of Russia.
Who he calls on a monthly basis, without any apparent guidance. 

The number of  infections in the U S is over 2,600,000 and deaths are nearly 130,000.

World wide infections are over 10,700,000 and deaths are over 516,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 03, 2020, 01:18:13 pm

123 Days to go and some states are finally mandating the wearing of masks.
It's sad, but many people still feel it's a imposition on their rights. People should
remember it's for the protection of others, and they should be considerate of the
health of the population at large. They should realize that Trump only made
the wearing of masks political for his own benefit, and no one else.

For the benefit of the country and it's population people should celebrate this
holiday at home, and no backyard fireworks party for anyone but family who
has lived together. Just remember there will always be another holiday, but
death is forever.

Trump is having a rally near the Mount Rushmore monument this weekend.
He apparently thinks a bust of himself should be added to this great tribute
to past presidents. His addition would only defile it, In no way should any
corrupt man like Trump be added to it. The monument it's self defiles  the
land in the minds of the indigenous peoples of the area. To them the land
is sacred ground, and the monument is just more proof of how little respect
our government has for the indigenous peoples of our country.

Trump apparently thinks authoritarian leaders are smart people. Because  he
seems to  be on the telephone talking to them a lot. We can only wonder what
he talks to them about. Perhaps to get advice on how to create authoritarian
rule for himself, and we have seen over his term in office trying to run the
government as dictators do. Dictators in the past often used fear and hate
to convince  a large segment of their population they must put them in power
for the good  of the country. Telling them only they can solve issues and create
jobs. To make  the country great and strong. Then once they have power they
pass laws to limit the rights of minorities and anyone who might oppose them.
This is done to build a strong  following they need to hold power. Eventually
only a few have real power, and the rest of the population is under the thumb
of the dictator.

Hopefully Trump will lose in November, and the country can be brought back to
where the land and people can regain what has been lost. Even then it will take
time to rebuild what Trump has destroyed. It will take time to convince other
countries that Trump was only an aberration and not a permanent change.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,600,000 and almost 130,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 10,800,000 and deaths are over 520,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 04, 2020, 01:49:09 pm


122 Days to go, and Trump stood  before his followers telling lies as usual.
Claiming protestors are  Unamerican and nothing but bad people who wish
to do nothing but destroy historical monuments, loot and burn cities. He
left out their true purpose and the fact people have a right to protest
peacefully.

These people are only wanting to be treated with respect and treated with
justice. Not beaten and killed by law enforcement, because they aren't white.
Trump has no concept of right and wrong except as it applies to himself. Where
laws are only good when they benefit him and his cronies. Courts are only
good when they agree with his form of justice. Every time Trump opens his
dirty mouth he proves he has no business being president. Not only that, every
GOP senator or house member who supports Trump needs to be removed from
office.

When Trump complains about protestors destroying monuments, he fails to 
understand they only wish to remove confederate symbols that makes the
civil war look like it was justified. For our government to give prominence to
confederate generals and other civil war traitors as persons to be respected is
a misrepresentation of history, and a slap in the face of not only African Americans
but all people who still suffer from racism across the nation, and have been since
and before the  civil war. A war started over divisions between those who wanted
to keep  slave's and those who knew slavery must end in the United States.

Slavery continued in other countries for a time, but industrial advances removed
the need for cheap labor in most cases. This allowed cultures to turn away from
slavery, where in many cases people suffered and died under the whip.

Trump calls much of this desire to remove statues, pictures and symbols of bad
people and their names from prominence, is just bad old political correctness running
wild. I think this is just him going along with supporters to get votes.Something he
does even when it makes him look bad. He doesn't support the wearing of a mask
because he wants to stand by his supporters who don't want to wear one.

Black lives murals are being painted around the country. One on the  street next to
Trump Tower, much to Trump's irritation. Because he never has approved of the
Black lives matter movement.

I want to say I don't claim to understand how black people  feel,  I am only
commenting as I listen to what I hear black people say on the news. I
apologize for any misunderstanding.

Trump has apparently decided we must learn to live with covid19 instead of
trying to control it. If you get sick, or die, that's just life, and get back to
being normal for the good of the country, because Trump and the GOP
said so.

There is a big 4th of July celebration in Washington DC in spite of covid19
because Trump wants it to  happen. This is just more proof that Trump cares
more about his re election than the people of the country.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,800,000  and deaths are well over 130,000.

World wide infections are over 11,100,000 and deaths are over 526,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 05, 2020, 01:05:19 pm

121 Days left, and Trump is claiming only 1% of infected people are in any danger. Well
I think Trump best go back to school because the number of infected people who either
 die or suffer complications from covid19 is more than any one percent. His followers
who many are over 60 years of age are waking up to see Trump doesn't care about
them. Young people are beginning to find out that this virus isn't a game, especially
when it makes them very sick. It is true that only around 20% suffer the most, but
unlike we thought in March this virus  effects us all, even young people, and those
who don't suffer symptoms often spread the virus to family and friends.

During his speech he claimed a vaccine might be available sooner than later. Well
even when one is available it will take weeks if not months to manufacture and
distribute. You can be sure the poor will be the last to receive it, and I really
doubt it will be provided free of charge if Trump is still president.

In 2016 many voters felt change was needed, and saw Trump, a billionaire who
promised to rid the government of corruption, and make the country great again
decided he was the best of 2 choices.  Unfortunately, instead of being a man of his
word, he turned out to be a liar, and became the most corrupt president in our
nations history. 

Not only is he corrupt he doesn't  even know how to be a president. He doesn't 
even know how to properly run a business without cheating his customers or
those who work for him. If his father hadn't given him almost 500,000,000 
dollars, he would likely be a small time real estate broker, if not completely
bankrupt, and possibly in prison due to fraudulent business practices.

Trump has spent much of his times as president trying to fool his followers into
thinking he is a great man who cares about the country. Instead he has turned
a growing economy into a failing one. Even without covid19 the economy was
failing. His, and the GOP's promise of over 4% growth was falling and barely
over 2% by 2020.

Tragically, many people still want to support him. Trump uses his followers  feelings
of hate and mistrust of minorities, and immigrants. In hope it will get enough of them
out to vote in numbers that will win his reelection.  It's unfortunate to see Trump drag
the GOP  along with his hate an racism. To hold on to statues and busts of confederate
generals and others who were traitors to the United States.  His hard core  support
is likely around 30%, but many others have been fooled by conservative media that
he is doing a good job.

Covid19 could be Trump's downfall, along with GOP control of the senate, but they
are working hard to limit voting by minorities. In hope it will prevent their loss of
power. The  GOP denies they are doing this, but Trump has actually said too many
people voting would harm the country by preventing the GOP from holding office.

The number of infections in the U S is about 2,900,000, and deaths are over 130,000.

World wide the number of infections are over 11,200,000 and deaths are over 529,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 06, 2020, 01:28:17 pm

120 Days left and with only four months to go, Trump and the GOP are working hard
to limit voting by minorities. They know these people generally don't support the GOP
and it's policies to reduce government and any aid to the poor and disadvantaged.
They the GOP think the states, and local governments should deal with the general public,
and let the federal government handle the big issues like defense and constitutional
justice. Yes the old bottom up argument and trickle down economics that is designed
to benefit the top 5% of Americans. Turns out many GOP members who are in the senate
and the house are among the top 5%.

The GOP has worked hard over the decades to benefit themselves, to write laws with loopholes
that allow them to pay less in taxes. While the rest of us pay the most to support the country. 
Not only with money, but with our lives.

During the last 4 decades the GOP has changed tax  laws to benefit the rich even more.
Up to the 1980's the middle class was growing, so more and more Americans could enjoy
the American dream. Since then the GOP found they could by  shifting laws away from
the middle class and to benefit the rich, made it easier for them to gain and hold power.
Then they worked to make it easier for big businesses  and the rich to support the election
of politicians, mainly of course, the GOP.

The Democratic party isn't perfect, far from it, but they generally support the average American
more than the rich. They support human rights over the rich who in most cases the GOP does the
opposite. The GOP takes advantage of human greed, hatred toward the LGBTQ and their claims to
be against abortion to get votes. They claim to be for jobs, but do little to  support fair treatment by
the businesses who create them.

If we don't vote to  remove Trump and the GOP from power our country will do less and less for the
average citizen. Not only that, but our environment will be destroyed by big business who only has it's
eyes on profit. Not everywhere of course, just for the average citizen, because the rich will set aside
clean areas for their enjoyment. We already see this with Fracking. Oil companies  put their dirty
wells right in neighborhoods where people have to live, and not where the owners live.

Trump apparently has decided to hold small rallies in airport hangers. Though technically out doors,
people will be standing shoulder to shoulder cheering, while Trump speaks to them.  Trump wants to
ignore this virus, and he wants his followers to do the same. This might work, but if the  virus starts
to serge among his  followers, his crowds will grow smaller over time.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,900,000 and deaths are over 130,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 11,400,000, and  deaths are over 530,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 07, 2020, 01:13:20 pm

119 Days left, and covid19 is shutting businesses down in California, Arizona, Texas, and
Florida. Not only these states, but others will be soon.  Trump still wants to claim this virus
is no big deal, so why is he having everyone who comes near him tested? If he is afraid of
it, why tell his followers otherwise?

Trump tweeted how bad it is that NASCAR couldn't fly the confederate battle flag anymore.
Like most of the GOP Trump is trying to boost his polls across the south. So far his efforts
seem to be failing. Trump doesn't seem to understand that the movement  to improve justice
for African Americans is important, instead he calls it names and claims they are out to
wreck the nation, and our history.

I think Trump is trying the same play he made in 2016 against H. Clinton. However Biden is
a popular white man, and Trump is finding it hard to turn voters against him. Clinton had been
bad mouthed by the GOP for almost 4 years. So Trump just continued the nastiness against her.

I don't think the GOP or Trump saw Biden a threat like they did H. Clinton so they are scrambling
to cut him down, and his high poll numbers have them running scared. I have a hunch the GOP is
worried more about loosing state governors and legislatures, and control of the Senate than loosing
the White House. A big loss by Trump could drag quite a few GOP members down with him.

The number of infections in the U S is nearly 3,000,000  and deaths are near 131,000.

World wide infections are 11,800,000 and deaths are over 536,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 08, 2020, 01:13:45 pm

118 Days left and Trump has made the threat that he would cut off  federal
funding to schools that didn't reopen this fall. Now isn't that interesting , the
GOP is always saying states and local government should decide on local
decisions. So I wonder how they justify this threat by Trump?  The obvious
reason Trump is doing this is in the hope it will help to revive the economy. 
He doesn't care how it puts children, teachers,  staff, and their families at
risk for covid19.

Trumps billionaire education secretary was on the phone telling governors
they must have their schools with full attendance, and anything less wouldn't
be acceptable. So far Trump is pushing the excuse that kids need social 
interaction  to have a good education. I have a hunch this will be his stand
to the end. 

As usual Trump makes a demand, but never has an explanation for how it
is to be met. S how are kids to ride a bus, and how do they stay separate
in classrooms, hallways, and lunchrooms with full attendance?  Do they
force attendance , even by kids and others  who are at risk due to an
existing illness?  Instead he  tells them to solve it themselves.

Trump is listening to his gut once more, he seems to think attacking those
who want social justice will help his reelection. Reports are he is getting a
lot of warnings from his reelection staff that it's a bad idea to turn against
minorities, especially African Americans. However Trump isn't  listening to
them because he believes his gut instead.

The VP was on TV kissing up to Trump, with his support for anything he
boss wants him to say. Even to claim the virus spread in the south was
showing improvement. He said people should wear a mask wherever
local governments tell them to, but stopped short at telling the public
them they must wear one anytime they are out in public areas.

This was followed  by a person with charts trying to prove how good
a job the government is doing to control the virus. Then another person
explaining how great testing is being done. If people believe all this nonsense,
and the VP  they are just fooling themselves, because Trump just wants them to
believe  every thing is fine since he is a great president. Which is not true, he
isn't even a decent human being and a  terrible president who puts our nation
at risk with every word he speaks.

It is pathetic how Trumps men and women answer questions put to them about
covid19 and it's effects on the nation and it's people. Virtually every question is
dodged unless it is agreeable to how Trump wants them to respond.  Now it's
understandable even a  normal president would want those working for him
 or her to support their policies, but to require them to lie and mislead
 the public should be a reason for them to  resign. These people should be
blocked from ever having a government job again due to their indifference
to the truth, and the public  good.

The number of infections in the US is nearly 3,100,000 and deaths about 131,000.

World wide infections are over 11,900,000 and deaths are over 544,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 09, 2020, 12:59:37 pm

117 Days to go, and the supreme court decisions about Trump taxes and his ability
to hide them has lessened. Though it still shows if you have enough money you can
delay and  delay. Something Trump has done for many years each time he faces a
legal issue.  Though delays as a private citizen may save him, but as president his
delays will  likely run out before saving him from legal trouble. Sadly though the
public will be in the dark till well after the election. I have always felt if Trump
was such an honest man, why should he fear the release of his Tax returns. It
is true they would be complex, but I really doubt if his followers would be affected
even if it was shown he was guilty of tax fraud. Could be he fears his deals with
other businesses would be exposed, and could cost him a lot of money.

The one good part of these decisions, was to tell Trump he isn't above the law, and
will be held accountable in the end. So Trump, will try to dodge this, It is possible he
is having cold sweats because it's very likely he will have to answer for any and all
lies about his money dealings, and how they affected his taxes or bank loans.

In my opinion no billionaire should be elected president. Because they would  have
too  many conflicts of interest to be able to make decisions for the good of the country,
and the people. Trump has shown to have this problem time and time again, and
puts his billionaire friends in positions they have little ability to fill. Very rich people
rarely get rich because of  high intelligence. It's usually due to good luck, and others
giving them a leg up or loans. Once you have enough money where money it's self
makes money, your on your way to  riches unless misfortune gets in the way.

 The Trump administration continues to claim they are providing enough materials 
and aid for testing and other helps for states against covid19. One might wonder
why so many people are having to wait for hours and hours  in long lines to get a
test for covid19, then wait a week or more for the results. Hospitals have asked  to
be able to do their own testing, but Trump wants to limit testing to certain entities.
Could it be because Trump is making deals behind the scene for his own benefit?
Only time will tell, and in the meantime people are put at risk due to testing
delays.

until Trump and his cronies get out of the way, this virus will continue to make
people sick and even to die. Trump appears to only be concerned   with his
reelection. Wanting the people to ignore this virus, and return the economy
to what it was before. Thinking this would be the key to saving his reelection.

The number of infections in the U S is over 3,000,000  and deaths are over 133,000.

World wide the infections are nearing 12 million and deaths are over 560,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 10, 2020, 01:01:29 pm

116 Days to go, and Trump apparently hopes to get better attendance to a rally
inside a open airline hanger. Even to encourage, but not require the use of masks.
Time will tell, but rally's are filled with people who shout and cheer, and even a
open hanger will soon be filled with air particles possibly contaminated with covid19.

Trump apparently doesn't understand the risk he is placing on his followers by calling
them to rally's. Even with masks people should keep their distance from others. especially
those people who are shouting and cheering. Then when they leave they take the virus
and spread it to family and friends. He should have virtual  rally's, but it seems he
doesn't want people to believe just how serious this virus really is.

Trump apparently feels he is smarter than even the doctors at the CDC. Blaming them
for the very  mistakes he himself made. He apparently feels following their advice will
harm his chances for reelection. something he puts above all else. Including the lives of
the American public. This and his complaints about Supreme court decisions just shows
he wants his word to be law. Just like his hero's do, the leaders of Russia and China.

The GOP governors of states with thousands being infected daily and hundreds dying ,
Continue to wait, apparently hoping the virus will go away so they won't have to shut
down their economies again.  This is likely to cause their downfall, along with thousands
suffering due to their wanting to please Trump, a man they think is the key to their
hold on power.  It seems many in the GOP across the nation see Trump that way. 

Trump continues to put the children of immigrants in buildings where they are exposed
to covid19,  Not only this, the children are poorly treated and only let out 2 hours a day.
Also little is being done to track the connection to  their parents. Many may never see their
parents again. The Trump administration and the conservative media want people to think
this is only a lie, because they know if the public really learned the truth, it would be the
end of Trump and many in the GOP.

The number of infections in the U S is over 3,100,000  and over 133,000 deaths.

World  wide the infections are over 12,300,000  and deaths are around 560,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 11, 2020, 01:25:53 pm

115 Days to go, and Trump claimed the weather was going to be too bad to hold a
airplane hanger rally. As it turns out the weather forecast for the location was fair
skies at the time the rally was to begin. Not only that the rain stopped 8 hours
before the rally was to start. So we should ask why did Trump lie when he knew
the weather wasn't going to be a problem. It's very likely Trump found out the
attendance was going to be poor at best, and Trump didn't want to face another
embarrassing rally with poor attendance as he did in Oklahoma.

I find it hard to understand why Trump's people continue to support him when they
know he lies constantly. The only thing I can figure is they see him as a road block
to a more progressive society. So they use every excuse to support him. They say
he is good for the economy, yet other than a big tax cut for the very rich, he has
done little. The economy was already on a roll when he took office, and everything
he has done since has hurt the economy, not help it. In fact it was failing even before
the damage was done by covid19. Now he is trying to claim only he can restore the
economy. This my friends is just another lie. All he wants to do is make himself
richer with a name he hopes will make him millions more beyond his presidency.

Trump gave his good friend Stone a get out of jail free card. Trump apparently
feared if he didn't his cohort would spill the beans and drag him down as well.
Personally I think the constitution should be amended to prevent a president
from giving a pardon or clemency to family or any associate his they may have
had in the past 5 years. Just in case we end up with another corrupt man or
woman in the white house.

We can be sure Trump will pardon any of his loyal friends  who might be in
trouble before he leaves office. Be it in 2021, or 2025. Also if Trump loses
he needs to be convicted of his crimes, or he will likely try to run for president
again in 2024.

Disney world in Florida is wanting to open in spite  of the  growth of covid19
in that state. They say there will be precautions, but I seriously doubt it
will be at all safe. This virus jumps from person to person at every chance
it gets. The sad thing is, by the time their precautions have proven insufficient
it will be too late. Many people will follow rules very well, but it only takes a
few to ruin it for all.

Trump continues to claim covid19 is just a common disease which most
should not worry about. Yet he hides from it with a passion. No one is
allowed to get close unless they are tested first. So we can ask why
if this virus isn't all that bad, why does he concern himself personally
with it? If he is being honest, then it's his job to lead, not hide. The
same can be said for our state governors.

It seems virtually every GOP governor  is trying to please boss Trump.
They want to wait for the state  to catch on fire before they make
any changes. Due to  this lack of concern  a lot of suffering and deaths
happen across their states. They wait and wait till the public forces
them to do anything that might not please Trump. When you hear
one speak they virtually parrot boss Trump bragging on every good
thing they can come up with. Even trying to spin bad things good.

The number of infections in  the U S is over 3,200,000  and deaths are around 134,000.

World wide the number of infections are over 12,500,000 and deaths around 560,000.


This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 12, 2020, 01:09:07 pm

114 Days left, and Trump is likely leading the GOP to their destruction. Trump continues
to feed on the sickness that took over the party 40 years ago when they turned against the
middle class in favor of the conservative rich. This was done because for many years the
GOP failed to control the house or senate. So the radical right knew by supporting the rich,
would make millions in dark money

available to the party. About that time AID's was spreading through the LGBTQ community
which  gave the GOP something they could get their teeth into. They knew using the fear people
had for this  disease, and the fact many people wanted to blame homosexuals for it, gave them a
strong  platform to win on since Democrats were generally in favor of gay rights. Also they could
run against abortion which gave them a lot of support over Democrats as well.

This support of the  rich over the middle class has continued over the years, and now the middle
class  suffers under the heel of the super rich. People are forced to work 2, and 3 jobs just to
make ends  meet. The poor have little or no chance for advancement, especially people of color
who are treated  like criminals much of the time.

Fortunately times are changing, and people of color are standing up in greater numbers,
demanding justice for themselves.  The far right is loosing numbers over time and may
fail to keep control after this November. They however won't give up, and know the public
often has a short memory, and will  likely try to regain control using fear and hate to
gain power.

Even though Trump is demanding schools restart, he has little control over the opening
of schools. Schools are supported with state and local funding which Trump hasn't any 
control over. I am sure he will pressure GOP governors to force schools in their states
to open in spite of local wishes.

While kids do need to return to school, care must be taken not to cause the spread of
covid19 in the community. Also to protect teachers, staff, and the children themselves
who if infected could put their families at risk.

The number of infected in the U S is nearly 2,300,000 and deaths are almost 135,000.


World wide the number of infections is almost 12,800,000 and deaths are almost 565,000

Numbers in the U S and around the world are still climbing, and  there could be
explosive growth this fall.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 13, 2020, 01:05:12 pm

113 Days left and Trump apparently is upset with Dr falci. It's very likely
due to the fact the Dr is much more popular than he is. Also it's likely because
the Dr. doesn't go along with his ideas about covid19. Trump may think his
plan to tarnish the reputation of Dr Falci will improve his standing in the
polls, but it is likely to do just the opposite. This Doctor is world famous ,
and respected by many people across the nation. Trump seems to  think
his lies about this great man will work, as it has against others, but he
may very well regret it this time.

Trump continues to push for the opening of schools across  the nation.
Apparently because he fears the harm to the economy if they stay
closed. If Trump was as smart as he claims to be, he could have
used this virus for his own advantage, but instead his lack of
leadership   and concern for his rich friends has made him look
very bad to many people. If Trump continues  to misrepresent
this virus and it's dangers, he will just hurt himself.

Trump is wanting to stop and remove foreign students from our
schools and colleges. Not only that to make them leave our
country. This just shows how ignorant Trump is. Our country
benefits greatly from these students. Many of them accept
jobs in high tech companies. Sending them away will do much
more harm than good to our country.  Also exposing our young
people to foreigners teaches them valuable lessens in the
understanding of other cultures.

Schools can open, but not in the midst of a high rate of
infections in a  community. Yes schools are doing fairly
well in other countries, but those countries have strong
leadership, with testing, and tracing to prevent the spread
of this virus. People here spend hours waiting to get a test
who's results my take a week or more. So by the time they
get the results, they could be infected and spreading the
virus. To be effective testing must be done in great numbers
and have quick results. Otherwise it does little to stop
the spread of the virus. China tested 11 million over one
weekend, where in the U S we do well to  test 400,000
across the nation in one day.

Trump doesn't even want more testing,  claiming it just
increases infection numbers. Numbers he doesn't want
to see. I am sure Trump and his cronies will start to
turn around in the near future, but will it be to little
to late? Only time will tell.

The number of infections in the U S is over 2,300,000 and over 135,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 13 million and deaths are over 568,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it. One of these sites below should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 14, 2020, 01:27:18 pm

112 Days left and the Trump administration is claiming this last serge of covid19 is
leveling off. In stead of trying to claim the virus is going away, they should be
trying to improve testing across the nation. But no, Trump is apparently more
afraid of large numbers than the virus. So he tells his people to reduce testing
to reduce numbers.

The GOP controlled senate has been stalling, apparently hoping the economy
would improve so they wouldn't have to extend unemployment  or send out
more checks to revive the economy. I have a hunch their running out of time,
and will likely pass an extension for unemployment and help to businesses and
money to help the economy this month. Boss Trump has already said he would
likely sign such a bill.

I hope the Democrats stand strong, and not let the GOP skimp  on economic
aid for those who need it. The GOP never likes to give money to anyone but
the rich. So it takes a bit of prodding and reminding they have an election
coming up to  get their attention.

I hope we can get term limits passed as many GOP members in the senate are
over 80 years of age, and  need to retire. We need to put a stop to this good ole
boy way of staying in office, So we can get new people in congress and the senate
on a regular basis.  This would make it much harder to hide corruption overall, and
make  it very hard for big business to buy politicians.

With Trump's reelection coming in a little over 3 months, we can expect dirty
tricks coming from the Trump administration. Trump is going to do anything to make
Biden look bad, and just about anything coming out of his dirty mouth will be a lie. 
I find it hard to understand why, just because Trump was elected, people  think
they should believe anything he says. The office of the white house hasn't changed
Trump one bit. He is still just as much a liar, and racist as he ever has been.

The number of infections in the U S is over 3,300,000 and deaths are over 135,000.
I have reported infections too low, and the 3 million number is more correct.

World wide over 13,100,000 infections and over 572,000 deaths have occurred.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 15, 2020, 01:32:36 pm

111 Days left and it appears the Trump administration is wanting to filter the numbers
of infections and deaths from covid19 through a new agency, instead of the CDC. I
think this is Trump wanting to control the reporting of data about covid19. We already
know he doesn't want the public to see this virus growing across the nation. So I expect
him to report data in a way he wants and not the way it is.

Trump has a history of covering up information he considers bad for him politically. Not
only that he just wants to hide everything. His  taxes, his relations with foreign leaders,
and most of his private deals he makes with his loyal staff and workers. He apparently
thinks he must run his office the same as he would as the leader  of a corporation, and
not the president of the United States where he must not hide corrupt practices. He was
impeached due to corruption, and would no longer be president if the GOP had done the
job they were elected  to do, and for that they should be removed from office.

Trump continues to bash African Americans and other people of color. Apparently to
make his followers feel good about him. In hope they will come out in large numbers
to vote for him. He doesn't care about how people of color feel when he supports
symbols of the confederacy. He calls these objects and statues historical. Why
would the leader of a country want to support people  who turned against the
constitutions and the laws we hold dear.  Perhaps Trump wants to put up statues
of British generals, lets not forget the Union Jack flag, and King George. After all they
are historical figures for our country. Somehow I doubt if his followers would agree.

Trump still wants to hold the GOP convention in Jackson Florida, even though the
virus is running wild in that state. Already several older GOP senators have said they
aren't going with one excuse or another. But we can be sure it's because 80+ year
old GOP senators are scared of catching covid19, even more than of Trump. Trump
hasn't said much, but you know he isn't happy about it. The GOP is seriously considering
to move the convention outdoors, but I understand the conventioneers  will have to spend
their sleeping  ours on cruse ships docked nearby. They best keep their masks on or they
may take more home than convention souvenirs. I wouldn't mind if Trump did and his
cronies too.

Trump is still pushing for school opening across the nation, and most of his cronies  as
well. Trouble is there isn't any federal funding to cover the cost of safety measures to
protect teachers children and staff from covid19. So it's likely many schools will
continue with virtual teaching no matter what Trump wants.

Covid19 data may become less correct  in the future due to  Trump wanting to 
hold the numbers down for his benefit.

The infections here in the U S is over  3,400,000 and deaths are over 136,000.

World wide the infections are 13,200,000 and deaths are over 577,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 16, 2020, 01:19:09 pm

110 Days to go, and Trump must be worried as he is changing his campaign
manager. Reports are he lost favor with Trump after the low turnout in Tulsa
Oklahoma. Latest polls show a double digit lead nationwide for Joe Biden, and
if Trump doesn't follow the advice of his people, this change will do little to help.

Polls still show Trump leading Biden on the economy. I really don't understand
this as Trump has done more to hurt the economy than help. His illegal tariffs have
put many farmers out of  business, and sent several businesses out of the country. He
and the GOP are against Unions, and several Union jobs have left the country during
Trumps
term in office. 

All he did that helped the   economy was in 2017 with the big tax cut for the rich.
Since then growth of the economy has been slowing. Trump and the GOP had promised
at least a 4% growth that would cover the tax loss, but was barely over 2% and falling
just before covid19 started. Trump was running the economy down when he was
 running for  office  in 2016, but soon after he took office he was claiming the economy
was doing great due  to his work. In reality Trump has been riding the Obama wave
since taking office. A common practice each time the GOP takes over from Democrats.

It's likely the big reason people think Trump is a great businessman is due to all
the misleading talk on conservative media news programs. These people will do
all they can to keep Trump in the white house, even if they have to lie, and in fest
they almost always support Trump's lies. If anyone is un American its people who
lie when they know it's bad for the country, and nearly all of Trump's cronies do.

People may have given Trump credit for the low unemployment numbers prior
to covid19, but they should know many of those jobs were low paid, where
people had to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. Trump claimed he was
trying  to create good jobs, but few ever  materialized. The big reason he
never started work on infrastructure is because his big tax cut and his
big increase for the military was taking all the money, and of course he
wouldn't admit anything like that.

Working on the nations  infrastructure would have created millions of good paying
jobs, but Trump was more interested in making himself and other rich people  richer
instead of doing his job as president. A job where a man or woman leads the country
into prosperity for us all, not just for themselves as Trump does.

The number of infections in the U S is over 3,500,000 and deaths are over 137,000.

World wide the number of infections are over 13,600,000  and Deaths are over 587,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 17, 2020, 01:27:58 pm

109 Days to go, and another book telling the private life of Trump and family comes out. This one
by Mary Trump,  a family member who is a trained psychologist. She tells why and how Trump came
to be  such  a uncaring person, and why he can't bring his self to admit mistakes. She said his father 
would not  accept admission of guilt or mistakes by his children, calling it being weak, and that he
felt  was as  good as being dead. She also confirmed that Trump used racist language  including
the "N" word.  and of course Trump claims this is all false and untrue.

I am not giving the name of the book as I am sure you can find it or how to buy it online. I doubt if
Trump's supporters will be changed by the book, as nothing seems to change them anyway, but
perhaps those on  the  fens will give it a look.

GOP governors are mostly playing the wait and see approach to covid19. Wait till the hospitals
are overflowing to do anything but suggest people should wear masks or keep separate. Even
then they want to avoid any mandate, claiming it's too hard to enforce.  I have a hunch the real
reason is because they are afraid of tweets from Trump if they do anything he opposes. Because
enforcement isn't the big deal GOP  politicians are trying  to make it out to be.

Already several big retail stores are requiring the wearing of masks by their customers. This in
states where GOP governors won't require them or close businesses that put customers at risk.
The GOP falls back on their old line where they don't think government should tell people how to
live. Unless of course your talking about women, or the LGBTQ.

Trump continues to slip in the polls while tens of thousands are suffering sickness in death by
vovid19. He apparently has no idea how to lead our country out of this crisis.  It's sad, but he
squandered a chance to not only seal his reelection and save tens of  thousands of lives across
this nation. Now he isn't even trying to  play catch up, but repeating the same mistakes he made
in February of this year.  All he had to do was make sure testing and tracking was a priority. instead
he wants to hide the dangers of covid9 from the public at large. Apparently thinking it will just go
away by doing so.

The number of infections in the U S is about 3,600,000  and deaths are over 138,000.

World wide the number of infections are 13,900,000 and deaths are 590,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 18, 2020, 12:59:45 pm

108 Days left, and the country morns  the death of congressman John Lewis  while a  president
thinks more of his golf game than a job he never deserved  to have, or earned. Praise from
GOP senators and congressmen who worked to undo voting rights in this country, Voting
rights congressman Lewis nearly died in support of. I doubt if their hypocrisy is lost on the
minds of those they would like to keep from voting.

People who hate, and wish to deny human rights to  those who look oar act differently are
destined to lose. It seems when a majority part of a society feels threatened they do all
they can to stop the perceived threat. The sad part is, the majority is often led by a radical
minority who spreads hate and fear hoping to pull the majority along with them. The Tea
party was such a minority, and now Trump has hijacked the republican party in hope of
doing the same.

Trump has apparently decided an attack on Black Lives Matter protestors  will improve
his chance of reelection. He is sending federal police out to cities, he claims  in protection
of Federal property. Even though local police are more than capable of this protection.
He apparently hopes voters will see him as a law an order president by doing this. The
idea of him being a law and order president is laughable. Trump only cares about laws
that effect others. He considers himself above the law and even the constitutions.

It's likely this move by Trump is him trying to cover his lack of leadership to control
covid19. Somehow I hardly think people are going to  forget a virus that is making
tens of thousands sick and 140 thousand more dead, and Trump's lack of leadership 
being a  big cause of the  suffering. Trump just doesn't have the ability to do the job
of president, much less the needed compassion.

The number of infections in the U S is over 3,600,000 and nearly 140,000 have died.

World wide the number of infections is  13,900,000 and deaths are over 590,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 19, 2020, 01:33:44 pm

107 Days left and has the GOP given up on building a big tent party? I think Trump side
of the GOP has. Trump and those in the GOP seem to think all they need is white people
to get out and vote in large numbers to win. Over the years this has saved the GOP, but
with the shift from a majority white population to one of color, they find them selves  in
trouble. Even with all their attempts to limit voting by people of color, they are starting
to lose. Their experiment of tying their hopes to a far right conservative side of the party
with Trump at their lead is likely a big mistake, because Trump is going to drag the GOP
through the muck and slime trying to save  himself, and when it's all over few if any
people of color or even whites will want to follow the GOP.

Trump continues to blame testing for big numbers of infections, even though infections are
rising faster than the tests themselves. Trump still makes the claim this virus will disappear,
this is probably true, but after how many people die? That number if he even states one, he
continues to move higher trying to stay ahead of reality.  Trump is trying to tell the public
that Dr Falci isn't doing a good job. Making claims about the Doctor that is misleading and
not true.

Trump is trying to defend the idea that not wearing a Mask is a civil right. It is NOT a civil right
to infect other people with a disease you may be carrying. Even if you just got tested, because
by the time you got the results you could be infected for real. Trump should be calling for all
Americans to wear protective Mask when around other people. Instead he seems to think it
will gain him votes if he supports those who don't want to wear one.

It's unfortunate, but many people appear to think covid19 is a hoax made up by the
news media. Some even expose themselves on purpose, and find out the hard  way that
covid19 is real. Even to infect their family in the process. I have a hunch many won't even want
to be vaccinated, thinking it's all a fraud.

The virus is still growing across the south, and south west of the country, even though
Trump is telling people otherwise. Telling schools they must open with full classrooms or he
will work to prevent any federal funding for schools that don't do as he wants. Even with his
threat most schools are working to protect teachers and staff with limitations and virtual
classes. So far the GOP shows no sign of wanting to give schools money to aid them with 
needed protective devices.

With only a week or so left the GOP controlled  senate still shows little interest in extending
unemployment and other aids for the people effected by covid19.

Will Trump accept defeat in November? He was asked, and said he was going to wait and see.
Apparently planning to oppose a defeat with the claim, he wouldn't accept a lost due to mail
in votes. Joe Biden came back stating anyone  in the white house who doesn't belong there
after January 20 will be removed.


The number of infections n the U S is 3,800,000 and deaths are over 140,000.  These
numbers are likely low, but it's the numbers I found.

World wide the number of infections is over 14,100,000 and deaths are over 597,000.



This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 20, 2020, 01:12:36 pm

106 Days to go, and the thug like actions of Trump's police in Oregon  continues.
Trump claims his police are there to save the city of Portland, but they have been
beating and gassing peaceful protesters and dragging off others apparently  just
for being in the street or in the way.

Trump is claiming this is to protect federal property, and plans to do this in other
cities across the nation. So time will tell, but it's likely going to hurt him in the
end. Because his police treat people improperly.

Apparently Trump thinks by doing this will gain him votes. Feeling it will prove to his
supporters he will stand against the Black lives Matter movement. This may backfire
since many of these so called police are just people who enjoy beating up on others.
Especially people of color.

I am sure when the Trump administration is looking for people to enforce disgusting
acts desired by Trump, many of his supporters are right there wanting the job. It's
just the  kind of people Trump wants for supporters. Like most dictators, he hires
thugs to do his dirty work. Because good people won't do it.

Trump is blocking testimony by the CDC in congress. For some reason he doesn't 
want them to explain why schools need to have protection to open. Trump himself
is still pushing for schools to open with face to face learning. A study by south
chorea showed that kids from 10 to 18 spread covid19 as much as adults do. This
study included 65,000 children, so it should be reasonably accurate.

This being the case children going to school are going to spread covid19 to their
family. The kids may not suffer much illness, but those they spread it to could end
up seriously ill.

Trump made the claim the U S tests more  than any other country. Let him tell that
to people standing in line for hours wanting tests, and waiting a week or more for the
results. Trump claims we have the lowest mortality rate in the world, which is a lie as
well. He plans to start more white house news conferences soon. Well it's not going to
help if he continues telling bald faced lies. People are losing family and friends to this
virus, and no matter what Trump tries to claim that isn't going away. He may be able to
con people on the economy and taxes, but it won't work with this virus.

Trump tried to claim that covid19 isn't growing in southern states. Even to  say it's slowing
instead. Trump seems to think lies will help his poll numbers. but after 4 years and thousands
of lies, people are starting to loose confidence in Trump. A lot of people are, since his lack luster
approach to controlling covid19, not counting how he lies about it.

Trump spent the first 3 years riding the good times Obama's work gave him. Obama even left
instructions on how to deal with a pandemic, but Trump in his hate for our first black president
 threw them away. Otherwise Trump could be riding the pandemic to a certain victory in November.
A victory which is no means certain now. If the polls are right he will lose buried by a landslide, One
so deep he won't be able to lie his way out from under it.

The  number of infections in the  U S is  3,800,000, and deaths are over 140,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 14,400,000 and deaths are over 604,000.


This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 21, 2020, 01:09:46 pm

105 Days to go, and Trump and some GOP governors are claiming covid19 is no big deal for
school kids. Well most kids may only get a runny  nose but when that virus hits their folks
and other family members they could end up being orphans. The GOP can claim, oh they will
get over it. This is how GOP politicians usually are, telling people they can just take care of
them selves, because it's not the business of government to help.

GOP governors apparently think all those anti mask and anti government people will work to
keep them in office. Somehow I really don't think most people are going to vote to  keep
irresponsible politicians in office. Including Trump.

Speaking of Trump he is pushing for a payroll tax cut. I am sure he is wanting this  to use  in his
campaign, hoping it will get him more votes. He pushed for this ahead of   the 2018 election as
well. With trillions in deficits the last thing we need is a tax cut.  But Trump doesn't care, as long as
he thinks it will be to his benefit. Besides what good is a tax  cut when millions of people aren't
working anyway.

Trump is getting ready to have daily news conferences again. It will be interesting to see if he can
stay on the subject of covid19. I imagine he will hold the line during the  first conference or two, but
knowing Trump he ill want to  turn it into a TV rally. To talk about how great a job he is doing, and
we should stop testing, and start schools and the economy.

Trump claims he is about to put a new health care system in to replace the ACA. He has claimed this
since before his election to the white house. So far it's just talk, and little or no substance. He and the
GOP want to end the ACA, even during this pandemic of all times. While millions depend on it, while
millions more will need coverage due to covid19. This if done will cause many  rural hospitals to close.
causing Millions more to die due to a lack of care they can't afford or get.

The GOP, Trump and the Democrats are all on different pages. Each wanting something different. The
Democrats want to extend the 600 dollar unemployment where the GOP claims it will be a disincentive 
for people to work. The GOP doesn't want to spend money, and perhaps the Democrats want to spend too
much, but if's the difference between a recession and a depression if people loose their homes and end up
on the streets.

The number of infections in the U S is over 3,800,000 and deaths are over 141,000.

World wide infections are over 14,700,000  and  deaths are over 610,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 22, 2020, 01:18:42 pm

104 Days left, and Trump tells the nation wearing a mask along with separation and hand washing
is a good idea, but you don't have to do it. As usual Trump doesn't want to take responsibility as
any president should. He appears to fear making leadership decisions, perhaps because if he did
and the decision turned out to be a bad one he would take the hit, and he doesn't want that.

It appears Trump called for a Chinese  embassy in Texas to be closed. No word on exactly why,
but it seems China is guilty of stealing data from U S businesses, and is ignoring warnings to
stop. Wither this or something else is the reason, is unknown. China is planning to close one
of our embassies in retaliation. How far this goes we can only wait to see.

This could  be a diversion by Trump, in hope it will move the news away from covid19 and the
trouble it has caused him. It wouldn't  be the first time he has tried  to move the news away from
things he didn't want to  see.

Trump was asked about a woman who is being accused of soliciting young girls for sex. It was
interesting that Trump said he wished her well, and mentioned they had been friends. Any
normal politician would have avoided any mention of friendship or well wishes for someone
in this woman situation. Just shows Trump has no instinct of caring for young  girls, and
having a soft spot for this woman makes one wonder how deep their friendship went.

Trump and the GOP are spending millions trying to hold on to the senate in November. Also
working to suppress the vote wherever they can. The GOP has worked for years to win by
vote suppression. If their policies were so good, they wouldn't have  to stop people from voting.
Much less lie about the Democrats. If their policies were so good Democrats wouldn't have
to fix the problems the GOP creates each time they are in office.

Those in the GOP just can't or won't accept the reasons for regulations. Businesses have to be
regulated to protect workers and the environment.  Human greed has to be dealt with or it will
destroy businesses and governments if not controlled, and during this pandemic  the GOP is letting
their desire to hold power, to  cause the deaths of untold thousands of people. Instead of working
to protect lives they want to  protect themselves.  We can only hope voters hold them accountable
as they should be, or they will just get worse.

Countries and their governments are meant to work for all the people, Not just for cheats and crooks
who manage to get elected.  If the people sit back and allow it they will find themselves  under the
thumbs of dictators. People like Trump, if allowed to stay in office will continue to push for more and
more power. I am reasonably sure if he is returned in November, he will try to be president beyond
2024, with the claim his first term was ruined by the Democrats.

The number of infections in the U S is nearly 4,000,000 and deaths are about `142,000.
As large as these numbers are it's very likely they are much higher. The GOP and Trump
are working to  cover the real numbers up.

World wide the number of infections is nearly 15,000,000 and deaths are over 612,000.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 23, 2020, 01:54:31 pm

103 Days left, and the GOP controlled senate has yet to develop or have discussions  with the
Democrats to extend aids for the American people. Aids that will expire at the end of July.  The
Democrats have a bill on Moscow Mitches desk, a bill that was passed 2 months ago, but the
GOP senate leader apparently wants nothing  to do with it. It seems their boss Trump told
them he wouldn't sign it, so GOP senators are in limbo fearing Trumps tweets. In the
meantime  millions of Americans could lose their homes and go hungry. One could
wonder how these GOP puppets plan to get reelected  by ignoring the needs of their
voters.

Trump is back standing in front of a group of reporters. Just as before he is telling lies  to
mislead the public. He apparently thinks he can treat reporters just like he does in his rally's.
It seems Trump only knows how to be a con artist, As much as he would like this virus isn't
going away. He wants schools to reopen, not for the benefit of kids, but he thinks if they go
to school their parents can go back to work and rebuild his economy. The problem is his so
called great economy was failing even before covid19 got in the way. Yes unemployment 
was very low, but many people were working 2 or 3 jobs trying to make ends meet. So
in reality the good job numbers were very misleading.

Covid19 continues  to spread. Trump still refuses to  setup federal controls, so the
virus hop skips here and there as people travel around the country. The lack of
national control means people can go to a nearby town or state to find a business
they want, like a bar or get a haircut among other things. This just spreads the
virus from place to place. Also masks have been proven to slow the transmission
of the virus, yet Trump sill won't enforce their use.

Had Trump  taken responsibility at the  beginning  tens of thousands would still
be alive today. But Trump was so  afraid  to shut down the economy  he did nothing
but turn it over to the governors of states. so he could blame them if things didn't
work out. Also it appears he was trying to help his rich friends  by only letting certain
manufactures he  wanted to support provide protection equipment.

Trump continues playing his law and order game, by sending federal  police if you can
call them that into cities to stop protests. So far his ignorant cronies who are controlling
these troops are just making things worse.  So it's very possible Trump is making a big
mistake  acting like a third world  dictator.

The number of infections in the U S has exceeded  4,000,000  and the number of deaths is over 143,000.

World Wide the number of  infections is  over 14 million  and deaths are over 615,000.








Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on July 23, 2020, 10:41:50 pm
just watched this and got a chuckle out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8eRmYCfZms

I can't help but think back to 2015 when Trump was doing his campaign rally and in a stunning move of real life foreshadowing his campaign song was R.E.M's It's The End of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine).

This whole situation our country is in is so astoundingly messed up I really cannot believe that it's really real. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 24, 2020, 01:06:16 pm


102 days to go and Trump has decided not to  have a big convention where he can officially accept
his parties nomination. I have a hunch when he realized there would not be many people show up
except him and a handful of dedicated  follower, he changed his mind. Because he didn't want the
 embarrassment. . So instead he makes out like he is changed it to protect the people   in that part
of Florida. Another lie of course, because he still wants  schools to reopen in Florida.  Something 
that would put most people in Florida at risk.

Trump continues to send so called police  into cities  with Democrat mayors. Claiming  Democcrats
can't maintain law and order. It was interesting  when his national security  man pointed to the
protests saying this is what we would have if Biden was president. So one could ask why do we
have them with Trump as president. Because he is in power, not Biden or the Democrats.

With a little over a hundred days to go the GOP and Trump are looking to lose in November. So we
can wonder what trick Trump plans to pull out of his hat to change the numbers. Polls show Trump
behind by 13 points in Florida, a state he can't afford to lose. Biden is also ahead in several of the
battle ground  states that Trump will need to win, states he just bearely won in 2016.

The GOP leader of the Senate  decided to wait till next monday to work on a bill to aid the populations
with their rent, andother expenses. I just wonder what he expects these people to live on while he and
his GOP cronies take a little vacation. I hope voters give them the same consideration in November.
 People might not worry about most things their politicians do, but when it comes to a roof over their
heads and food on the  table I am sure they are watching very close.

It's possible that Trump has come to realize his mistakes, but the public has lost  much of the confidence
they had for him, and a 100 days may not be enough to regain it. Most people see Trump as a liar, and
will likely be slow to believe anything he says. Unless he accepts the facts, something he hasn't  done
in the past, this virus will continue spreading around the country. It will likely take the very thing he
hates to  stop it, and that is to shut down the economy and have the government  carry the people
till it's under control. Otherwise we will have to wait for a vaccine to do the job, and if Trump is still
in the white house, it will likely take many monnths to vaccinate the population.

The number of infections  in the U S is over 4,000,000 and deaths are over 144,000.

World  wide the number of infections is over 15,300,000 and deaths are over 625,000.
This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org






Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 25, 2020, 01:40:17 pm

101 Days to go, and We can expect Trump to start promising things in hopes it will help
his chances for reelection. He said he was going to make drug companies cut prices
unless they agreed to do so on their own. So why did he wait over 3 years to do what
he promised to do if elected. Trump lies constantly, so if reelected he will likely undo
every one of these actions. The GOP promised to give people health coverage for pre
existing health problems, but they or Trump never mentioned what this coverage
could cost. They just emplyed it would be much the same for everyone. When
in truth premiums would likely be so high, no one could afford them.

We should be asking the GOP why they support Trump's invasions of cities when
they never want the federal government to inpose it's will on the states. They
continuously complain about big government, but let Trump tell states they have
to accept the federal  police.  Also this invasion by Trump is nothing but political,
as he is only imposing them on sities under Democratic  control.

It is sad how many businesses support the GOP and Trump. It is True most
businesses are owned and started by people who are willing to work hard,
annd put many hours in to them. Unlike workers who go home after work
without any concern for their job. So we shouldn't be surprised to see
business owners support political parties who inn most cases are familiar
with the needs of businesses. The trouble is greed often overwhelms these
politicians, and start thinking only they should  run the country. This is why
we need term limits.

The GOP recieves millions from big businesses so they will pass laws that
benefit them. Businesses have to be regulated or greed will cause them to
take advantage of workers and even to damage the enviroment. All to
increase their profit.

For many years this country has been pretty much evenly  devided between
the GOP and Democrats. One could say between those of compashion, and
those of greed. While it is true many in the GOP do care about people, they
fear big government. History has shown if governments become too large,
it can destroy countries. But we are a long way from that posibility. The GOP's
support of big business and the super rich is a greater danger as these entities
tend to only care about them selves, and not the people. The election of Trump
shows just want a man who cares more about himself can do to a country.

We should wonder why Trump has talked to Russia's Putin 7 times since march?
It's very likely Trump is wanting Russia to help him win in November. Just as he
knows they did in 2016. Trump and his fixerattorney General Bar have done all
they can to say this is a hoax.  I sometimes think people want to vote for Trump,
because they want to believe he is a good president. Even though Trump is nothing
but a rich playboy who only cares for himself.

This country needs a moderate president and political parties who have a moderate
center. This used to be the case, but over the years the GOP has moved to the far
right, and become very conservative. It's time voters showed them they no longer
belong in control of the country. Democrats have no plans to take guns from responsible
people, and this virus has shown how much the people need a government who cares
about the people, and not just big business or the super rich.

The number of infections in the U S is over 4,100,000 and over 145,000 deaths.

world Wide the number of infections is over 15,800,000  and deaths are over 638,000.

is takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 26, 2020, 01:14:54 pm

100 Days marks a sign post on the path to the
presidential election. We can expect our current president to do all he can to prevent his loss.
I expect him to have federal police at everymajor voting station in states he expects to
have a close vote in. I expect him to invalidate the election if he loses. At least he will try.
This is why we must get out and vote, so his loss will be overwhelming. So any attemp
to change it will be thrown back at him.

When bad people gain power, it takes hard work by many people to get rid of them. Because
they will use all their power to keep it. The GOP wish to claim president Obama did a poor
job, but what they fail to say is how much they blocked him every chance they had. During
the two terms Obama was in office, the GOP voted over 50 times to get rid of the ACA,
because the GOP was and is afraid the people will want to keep it. JUst as they would like
to do away with mediecare, mediecade, and social security.

Trump continues to claim Covid19 will disappear  soon. This is just him wishing.  We need
a president that does a lot more than wish his problems away. Also we need a president who
allows our cities and states deal with law and order. Not one that sends troops in to beat up
on American citizens just because he doesn't like them. If his Troops are there to  protect
government property, then tell them to do that and not chase citizens down on suspicion
of criminal acts. They should let the local police do that.

I heard some call Trump a good manager, I wonder where they got that idea from. He
is a terrible manager. All he wants to do is sit and play while letting everyone else do
the work. I suppose you could call that managing, but a good manager reads reports
and lbelieves the facts. Trump  doesn't read or believe facts, instead he follows idiots
he sees on television. Not only that he listens to stupid conspiracy  theories  that have
no basis in fact.

Trump has exceeded 20,000 lies and misleading statements. One would  wonder why
anyone would believe the man? But it appears Trump is a practised con artist, and
knows what the average american will or want to believe. It is sad and as most
con artists know, there is a fool born every minute, and it appears Trump has found
most of them.

The number of infections in the U S is over 4,100,000 and deaths are over 146,000.

World wide the number of infections are around 16,000,000 and about 640,000 deaths.


is takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com





Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 27, 2020, 11:39:57 am

 99 Days left, and Represenative John Lewis memory is being celebrated in
our nations capital today. A famous civil rights leader who promoted voting
rights in the United States.

President Trump is on the road today, apparently to visit a labortary
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 27, 2020, 03:14:46 pm

99  Days left, and Representative John Lewis memory is being celebrated in our
nations capital today. A man who faught for voting rights in our country.

President Trump is on the road today  Apparently traveling to a laboratory that
is working on a vaccine for Covid19. I have a hunch he plans to encourage them
to hurry up, because Trump would like nothing better than to claim some
credit for early development of a vaccine. Also if a vaccine was available, he could
claim there isn't any excuse for mail in voting.

Inspite of Trump's secret police force, protesters stand ever strong. Trump doesn't
appear to care if police use excessive force on citizens of color. So instead of
calling for police across the nation to deescalate he does the opposite. He apparently
thinks he can trick people into thinking he cares about law and order. The only
law and order he cares about is laws that benefit him.  These protestors are
wanting justice , and it seems the only way to get the news media to notice is to
break somthing. 

 Covid19 continues to spread, and Trump is calling for schools to openinspite of
the dangers. So most GOP governors are bowing to Trump their King and pushing
local schools to open. The governor of my state is no different,  I understand he
would dance in the halls of government wearing a tutu if Trump told him to.

Aid to help the people is still working it's way in the senate. It appears Trump and the
GOP have agreed on a bill. Of course the millionair GOP and billionaire Trump don't
want to  give the average person even enough to make ends meet. They say
people will just sit and not work if they give them enough to live on.  Well if they
don't, this country is headed for a much deeper recession. Because this virus isn't
going anywhere, and will drag the economy down even more. If you wonder how
the stock market is doing so well, it's because  Trump and the GOP is sending billions
in tax dollars supporting the few big corporations to keep it up. Much more than
they want to give the average  person with a family to support.

The number of infections in the U S is almost 4,300,000 and deaths are
nearly 147,000.

World Wide the number of infections are about 16,700,000 and deaths
are nearly 650,000.

is takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 28, 2020, 12:23:25 pm

98 days to go and even though big money sports are trying to play, baseball players
manage to get infected by covid19. If players who get tested virtually every day can
get infected, what chance do college, and school kids have? It only takes one person
to spread the virus, one person who makes a mistake to spread it to dozens of
others.

Trummp is now wanting to claim a vaccine should be ready by October of this
year. We can only hope he won't force the CDC to approve  a  vaccine prematurely
to benefit himself.

Still Trump and the GOP continue pushing people to get out where they can catch
and spread the virus. Now they wish to cut federal assistance to unemployment from
600.00 to 200.00. Oh they did come up with a tax break for business lunches  and
some other expenses, as if anyone thinks that will help would surprise me. I don't
really think that will help any business stay open. Unless of course your just in business for fun. Oh they do plan to send out another 1,200.00 bucks, as if that is all
families need over the next several months  to buy food and pay the rent.

Trump is rigging the postal service to slow down the mail. This is being done to slow
votes by mail. Taking weeks to deliver ballots instead of days as it normally would. 
Hoping this delay would make it look like mailed  votes coming in late was a plan
against him. Which you know would be his claim.

Trump could win against protestors if they persist with violence. Only peaceful
protests will gain support from the public. Violence, even due to Trumps actions 
could turn many people against them. They should turn in any protestor that uses
violence, because there is a possibility some of those who are violent are working to
help Trump.

The number of infections in the U S is 4,200, and over 148,000 deaths.caused by
covid19.

World Wide the number of  infections is over 16,500,000 and deaths are over 653,000 from covid19.


is takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 29, 2020, 12:37:36 pm

97 Days to  go and Trump is promoting fake medicine again. This from a group of
people calling them selves doctors. Leave it to Trump to chase after any conspiracy theory that follows something he likes.  He doesn't care where it comes from, as long
as it sounds good to him.

Much of what Trump claims follows claims made by forign countries, like Russia, China
, Saudi Arabia,, and even North Korea. As if Trump is learning from authoritarian  leaders, how to gain authoritarian control here. If Trump has his way hecould hold
office for several years. Even beyond 2024. He is making millions as
president, and likely plans to make millions more.

When asked Trump said he didn't mention the report to Putin about Russia's offer of bounties on American soldiers. Even though there is a lot of evidence to prove it. Trump still wants to clame a lot of people say it's not true.  From day one Trump has
refused to take advice from intelligence  agents. Apparently believing it was their fault we had the Iraq war. When in reality we were led into it by Bush2 and his VP over
oil.

It's sad how people want to believe Trump. I often wonder if any of those in Trump's
administration are taking bribes from him.  People often follow the very rich just
like a puppy dog looking for a treat. Some think riches will rub off on them if they stay
close enough. It's likely Trump's riches are  pkart of his attraction. People might think
if they work to help him he will smile and spread some of his riches on them. Well they best stay loyal, or he will punish them instead.

The GOP in the senate still can't get together on a bill to aid people and the states.
Moscow Mitch said he wasn't going to put a bill on the floor unless it protects
businesses from law suits over medical issues. Even if it's not Covid19 related. If he stands by this there will be no relief aid from the GOP controlled senate period.

Somehow I think the GOP will find a way to pass a relief bill, being an election year,
even if there isn't any liability protection in it. If they don't they would be lucky to be elected as dog catcher in November.

As it stands all the GOP can do is argue, half want to spend more and half want to
spend less. Unless of course it's money for the rich or big business. For the average person they can just  do without, because the GOP is afraid they might sit at home,
something the GOP thinks all low income people want to do.

If the GOP fails to work with the Democrats on a relief bill this country is headed for
a depression. Some might think the Democrats should work with the GOP more,
but if they did the GOP would drag them down to their level, and a lot more
people would suffer for it.

Attorney General Barr was called to the house judicial committee yesterday. Where
he was asked several questions about his running of the justice department, and his
relations with the president.  The GOP on the committee did their best to defend him
every way they could. When asked by the Democrats Barr did his best to avoid
answereing questions in a clear manor, and dodge questions he didn't want to answer.
He is   typical of any loyal supporter working for Trump.  ordered to lie and mislead as
much as  possible.


The number of infections in the U S is over 4,300,000  and over 150,000 deaths.

World wide the number of infections is over 16,700,000 and almost 660,000 deaths.
This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 30, 2020, 01:33:50 pm


96 Days to go and even though covid19 is spreading nation wide, Trump is claiming
it is doing just the opposite. If that wasn't enough he is promoting  a crazy consiracy
that masks are spreading the virus, and the virus is alien in nature.   Attorney
General Barr even claimed the reason testing is so poor is due to president Obama. Which is an obviously misleading statement for Trumps benefit.

The only reason testing is so bad is totally due to Trump. He failed to use his authority
to require manufacturers to make appropriate testing supplies. Instead it appears 
that he handed it over to private labs and corporations   so they could profit from it.
Just as he  did for masks  and other related products.

Just like many in the GOP, Trump is more concerned  with making  money than the country, or the people, and like the con artist he is, he plays on   peoples greed for
his own benefit.

Apparently with his desire to please Russia's Putin, he is pulling 12,000 troops  from
 
Germany. Trump has gone out of his way to go easy on Russia. Not only Russia,
but several countries with authoritarian rule.  Russia's Putin wants to  create a
new soviet union, and Trump is making it easy for him. So it's no wonder why
Putin wants to help Trump stay in the White house. Not just Russia, but most
authoritarian countries want to see Trump win in November.

Many may like the idea of the U S keeping it's nose out of other countries business, but even though it is an attractive idea, it's a big mistake. Authoritarian leaders are
greedy, and will find excuses to take over others they see as vulnerable. If we sit back and do nothing, these leaders will eventually try to do the same to us. Then we will have to use warfare to stop them, and this could end our way of life forever.

 If Trump thinks the only reason we have trouble with Russia is because we don't stay
out of their way, he is sadly mistaken. Russia has opposed us ever since the Bolshevik
revolution at the beginning of the 20th century. Russia is largely controlled by
the Russian mafia. A criminal organization who only cares about themselves.
and power. like most criminal elements they fear loss of control. So they see us as a risk to their existence by giving the people of Russia hope for a better life.

Trump has decided our suburbs belong to  white people, because he is saying only
the uppoer class will be allowed to build homes there. Because he won't allow poor people, which tend  to be people of color to build homes there.  Trump must be getting
desperate, because most  communities have zones for building, and Trump would havenothing to do with it.

The Black Lives Matter movement is continueing inspite of Trump's objections. He would be well advised to give them his support, because it is not going away. The 
same could be said about the GOP. A party who  may go the way of the WIG party
of almost 200 years ago that lost it's way, not to return. Likely due to the fact they
tried to have single party control of the government. Something the GOP seems to
feel is their calling. Well no one party can successfully lead the United States, a
nation too diverse for any one party, and will likely lead to their eventual distruction.

Conservatism is self distructive if allowed to go too far. It often leads to  authoritarian
governments, and they usually fail due to greedy leadership.  While it is true authoritarian leadership can be more efficient, the rot of human  greed will eventually destroy one in the end.

The number of infections in the U S is over 4,400,000 and deaths are over 151,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 17,000,000 and almost 665,000 deaths.
This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 31, 2020, 01:40:52 pm

95 Days left, and the GOP and Trump do not want to work with the Democrats to
properly extend the relief plan that has existed for the last few months. Instead they
want to reduce it, or not even extend parts of it.  Instead they want to blame the
Democrats for all their problems, and now many of them have left without doing the
job they were elected to do. In the meantime people will go hungry and some will
loose their homes. While the GOP work and work to keep Trump in the White house,
and themselves in power.

Trump said we need to delay the election, but he didn't say how long. Once delayed
it could be years befor he decided to reschedual it. I imagine he would want to wait till
he felt he could win. As it turns out only congress  (both houses) have to agree to
change it. Several of the GOP claimed they didn't want to change it, but I have a hunch after Trump threatens to tweet about them, they  will change their minds. Trump is
already claiming this will be the most corrupt election  ever. Likely because he knows
he is going to lose, and he wants us to believe he could only lose if the election was rigged. I have a hunch Trump won't give up on wanting to change election day, and
it may end up in the courts before it's over.

Trump and the GOP continue to blaime China for the virus and even the deaths caused by it. They don't want to talk about how Trump called it a hoax at the beginning, and how  his delays caused many of the deaths. They brag that he
stopped flights from China, but nothing about his allowing American
citizens  to return without having them being quarantined after landing here.
This is the big reason New York suffered such a large number of deaths.

Now the GOP wants to brag about Trumps so called warp speed plan. I have a hunch
if asked Trump couldn't explain the details. Because he never reads. He just repeats
the common safeguards, wash hands and keep separate, and wear a mask if he
happens to want to mention it.  The CDC denies it, but it's likely  Trump is pressuring
them to approve a vaccine befor the election.  So he can brag, claiming he made it
happen. When in reality he has no idea how to do so. All Trump knows how to
do is lie.

The economy is  down 33% and Trump is claiming the next quarter will be a
lot better. When economists tell us it will take years to recover from this recession.
Trump is going to claim all will be better only if he is elected, and will be terrible if he
isn't. He doesn't want to talk about the 50 million who have lost their jobs and the 5
million who have lost their job related health insurance. He talks about having a great health plan to replace the ACA, but never tells us how much it will cost or who it won't
cover.

If Trump and the GOP continue trying to open up the economy, we are headed for a
deep recession with many many more deaths from covi19. Just count on it.


The number of infections in the U S is over 4,500,000 and deaths are over 152,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 17,400,000 and almost 672,000 deaths.
This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 01, 2020, 12:50:58 pm

 94 Days to go, and Trump is claiming kids are almost immmue to covid19.  Seems
he will try anything to get kids in school. Apparently believing by doing so it will
bring the economy roaring back. He doesn't seem to understand millions of jobs are
just gone, period, and aren't coming back.  Even with people able to work they don't
have a job to go to, and now the GOP doesn't want to extend unemployment pay, at
lease enough so families can have enough to live on.

While kids need to learn how to socialize, I don't see it as a priority over the danger
of passing covid19 to family. There is the promise of a vaccine by early 2021, so why
not wait, the delay of a few months isn't going to ruin the lives of our children.

Trump continues to clame voting by mail will lead to cheating. He should know the
GOP has been incouraging people to vote by mail for years now. So his claims are nonsense, aimed at making people feel the Democrats are wanting to rig the election
in their favor. In reality if anyone is rigging the election it's the GOP and Trump.

It seems testing for covid19 was handed to a family member of Trump, and that
person felt since the virus was mostly in states with Democrats for governors in the
beginning, he didn't think there was a real need to  give testing much importance. A
fter all it wasn't affecting their people very much. The GOP that is. Trump never has
 felt he is the president of anyone but GOP voters. So Democrats can just manage on
their own for all he cares. It seems Trump only considers his voters worth his attention.
So even after almost 4 years he hasn't worked to enlarge his voting base.

Trump was asked if he talked to Russia about their involvement in Afghanistan. Trump
made excuses blaiming the news media, and complained about their references to
Russia and not China. Could it be Trump is afraid to oppose Putin? It is beggining to
look that way. We tend of forget, but Trump is a coward at heart, and may not have
the nerve to stand up to Russia. Either that or Putin is blackmailing him.

Trump is trying to blame China for several things. Trade, spying, and covid19. While it
is true covid19 started iinn China, but Trump is responsible for what the virus has
caused here in the U S.  South Korea is a good example, the virus started there on
the very same day as it did here, After 6 months they have had only 301 deaths. They
have a population greater than that of Florida, with a much smaller death toll.

So we can ask why? South Korea uses masks, but the big difference  is they test and
trace. Then quarantine all those who had contact with those infected. This has allowed them to open their  economy, schools full of kids, and nearly all crowded events.  It's
not rocket science, just good hard work. Something Trump never wants to do.


For some odd reason Trump has discontinued his political TV adds. Perhaps he
feels he can win by calling the election fraudualent. Well he best read up on the
constitution, because just calling the election a fraud won't get it. If a winner isn't decided, the speaker of the house becomes president on January 20, 2021. Trump
and his cronies will face prison if they fail to step aside for a new administration.

The number of infections in the U S is almost 4,600,000 and deaths are over 153,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 17,600,000 and almost 678,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 02, 2020, 01:18:02 pm
 
93 Days left, and the GOP usually only spends a lot when they think they are going to
be in power. Since they are becoming tightwads, perhaps they see Democrats winning
in November. Why? Because they don't want to make it easy on Democrats by voting
for programs that need a lot of money. Programs that might make Democrats more
popular during the following election.  This is probably why they don't want to help the
Democrats by going along with their relief bill. By opposing it, they can blame them for
not agreeing with the GOP plan and the delays this causes.  They wouldn't risk doing this if they felt they had a good chance to win. 

The GOP always play the Democrats this way. Nearly every time the Democrats
take power, they have to raise taxes to fix deficits caused by the GOP, and their crazy
economics. Economics disigned to benefit the richest Americans.

If it wouldn't cause so much suffering by the middle class. I would suggest letting the
GOP win, and die on their own vine. But if we did, they would take millions of innocent
people down with them. Much as the great depression did, and it was due to GOP
mismanagment that caused it.  Without world war 2, who knows how long it would
have lasted.

Our current economic problems will take years to grow out of no matter who
wins in November. We best hope Biden wins, because just as during the great
depression of the 1930's, it will take liberal economics to prevent masses of people
from starving and dieing. Economics only the Democrats have a
chance to bring about.

Millions of people could be put to work rebuilding the national infrastructure. Much as wwII did, infrastructure repair would put millions of the unemployed to work with good
paying jobs. Trump blew it with his fat cat tax cut. If he had used the money for
infrastructure work, he would have gained a lot of popularity. Instead he wanted to
please the rich, a minority that does him little good at the ballot box.

The attorney general Barr in his attempt to protect Trump is using authoritarian acts,
by sending federal police into cities where they don't just protect federal property,
but run around the city grabbing people without due process.  This and his
improper court acts to enterviene in criminal cases  should get him impeached. The
job of the attorney general is to protect the people not the president as Barr has.

The problem is the GOP controlled senate would not remove Barr if he was
impeached, So it would be a waste of time.  This alone would be a good
reason to elect Joe Biden over Trump, and take the senate away from the GOP.

Trump and his far right support will wreck our democracy if he remains president
for another term. We might feel the K K K is a thing of the past, but it's out there,
and is coming out more and more with Trump's support. He denies it now, but a
point is coming where he will feel safe openly supporting the clan. A time when
he has enough power and support to be a dictator we will find very hard to get
rid of.

The number of infections in the U S is over 4,600,000 and deaths are over 154,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 17,800,000 and almost 684,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 03, 2020, 01:15:48 pm

92 Days left, and Trump is still trying to say covid19 will be gone soon, and doctors
are just over reacting. He accused the speaker of the house of making a doctor over
state the pandemic in this country.

Trump continues to push for the reopening of schools. The national
teachers union has given it's members the approval to strike if they feel they are asked
to work in conditions where they could catch covid19. Many of our teachers have
health conditions that put them at a higher risk for this virus.  Not only that many
other adults who work in schools could face the same risks. Not counting risks to those who live in a multigenerational families. Already some kids have lost families to vovid19.  I fear this demand by Trump will create a lot of orphans across the country. 
I think the risks  created by this virus is greater than kids missing a few months in
school.

There was a large outbreak of covid19 in a kids camp. So this could be a warning
for schools. It seems GOP leaders want to  play the wait and see what happens game
with this virus. Something that could get a lot of people hurt. This virus isn't well understood yet, and caution should be used.

Democrats have pushed for more broadband acess for several years now, but the GOP and Trump have done little to improve  internet acess in rual areas. Instead
they want free enterprise to do so. The problem with that, rual areas  are not profitable,
and would need to be subsidized to cover losses. Something the GOP only likes to do
 for multi billion dollar businesses.

So the lack of acess and computers make it difficult for many rual and poor families
to have remote schooling.  Routers could have a built in computer that could handle remote schooling. Then with a TV and keyboard, any  kid or adult could be schooled
remotely. With low cost single chip computer prices, there is no reason why a
router couldn't have a simple builtin computer for this purpose.

The Trump administration has been and still is sending immigrants back, sick with
covid19 to their country of origin that cannot care for them. Basically this is a
death sentence for them, and a virus attack to those countries.  Just more proof that
Trump is a discusting individual who cares nothing for others.

The number of infections in the U S is over 4,600,000 and deaths are over 155,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 18,000,000 and over 687,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 06, 2020, 01:14:02 pm
 Due to server changes I haven't been on for a couple days.

89 Days left, and isn't it interesting, suddenly voting by mail in Florida is just fine. Apparently someone told Trump many of his supporters in Florida will likely not vote
if they can't vote by mail. So now Trump supports voting by mail in that state, because
he claims it's the one state where it is secure.

Also the Trump administration is shutting down the Census early at the end
of September. Due to covid19 the Census is far behind where the count should be,
especially in areas who have a lot of poor people, including those of color. Trump and
the GOP are behind this, because they know a under count will benefit them since
most  of those who have been counted live in areas with a lot of republicans, giving
the GOP more members in congress. If that wasn't bad enough the under count will reduce funds for roads, bridges, and many other government projects across the
country. Since the GOP wants government to be smaller, this will likely
suit them just fine.

Trump continues wanting people to ignore covid19 and for them to return to work and
school. He doesn't care if people get sick and die as long as they get out and open up
the economy before they do.

People need to remember Trump has one desire, and that's to be  president till he is
ready to resign. Just as they do in autocratic countries like Russia and China. It seems
the GOP is supportive of this, apparently because they feel he will be their puppet
in the long run. Somehow I think this wish of their's will be the cause of their
destruction, because the people  of this country do not want a autocratic leader. They
might like Trump in the short run, but power corrupts, and Trump won't stop his grab of power, and when he goes too far, he will be removed one way or another.
Hopefully it won't come to this and he will lose the election so bad he will be forced to
leave in January of 2021. 

As some schools star to open, we are seeing teachers and students with covid19. This
in spite of claims all will be just fine. This is mostly due to GOP governors wishing to
please Trump their all powerful king. A man who cares nothing for the health of kids
and their families. All he wans is to be reelected, no matter who is hurt or even killed.

Trump is promising a vaccine in October.  We can be sure he will push hard to get it
out before November, so he can brag about how good a job he  has done to get a
vaccine out so quick before election day. Personally I would not trust any vaccine that
is available before February of  2021. Because we can't trust the FDA or the CDC
under Trump.

The NRA is apparently being sued for mismanagement of a charity they run.
Trump when asked about this, said they should move to Texas. Apparently
Trump thinks they should move to a GOP controlled state. As usual he wants to
blame Democrats for not looking the other way, as many in the GOP do.

Sadly Trump and the GOP are still fighting the Democrats, because they don't want to
spend the money needed by the people of this country.  So those on unemployment
will continue to do without, and the schools won't get money they need for PPE.
Also the post office will continue to wait,for the money they need, causing delays in
mail deliveries.

The number of infections in the U S is over 4,800,000 and deaths are over 158,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 18,000,000 and over 700,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 07, 2020, 01:28:40 pm

88 Days to go, and the GOP continues to stall, leaving millions with little money, and
soon to lose a place to live. Trump claims he will make money available if congress
fails to do so soon. We can  only wonder how much, and for how long. Trump and the
GOP continue to claim if they hand people money they won't look for a job. This is a
old line made by the GOP for many years. While a few will sit and take aid instead
of working, most people wish to earn their way in life.

Some say the GOP would vote to pass one or two items, So why not go along with
that? The problem with that is the GOP will just sit on their hands and refuse to do any
more. Perhaps nothing to help renters, schools, cities, or states. Once they help the
unemployed, and not even enough for that, they will just say No. At least till one of
their big business friends have need for more money. Just as Trump and his cronies
have used tax dollars to help prop up the stock market, there is always  enough money
 to help big business and the rich.

The governor of New York has given the go ahead to open schools. I imagine this
could change, but for now it's okay with proper precautions. I am sure many schools
and colleges will attempt to open, but I fear some will  have to close once more, and
just end up spreading the virus, Perhaps causing the deaths of family members when
the kids return home. I say wait for a vaccine, then try to reopen schools. Young
people and kids don't take disease serious enough to use precautions as well as
they should.

Covid19 tests are still taking too long to give  results, many taking a week or more.
Faster tests have been promised time and time again, but often give false  results.
Slow or fast, neither do any good if they can't be depended to give a true  result.

Instead of pushing for effective testing and tracing, Trump just wanted to give the
responsibility of dealing with covid19 to the state governors. Apparently afraid if he did
and things went  wrong, he would get the blame. Well I have news for him, he is
getting the blame anyway, and it's well deserved.

Trump was elected to lead the country, not to go play golf at his various golf resorts.
Then send the government a bill for staying at them. He just doesn't seem to
understand the job of president. He seems to think it's the same as being a CEO
of a corporation. Where he just sits back and play games while everyone else does
the work he takes credit for.

His own lawyer told congress how Trump operates a business. He uses his money
to start one, then wants to forget about it.  Trump just wants to play. This is likely
why he has gone bankrupt 4 times. He just never learned how to run a business.
Without his fathers money and help he would likely have gone broke long ago.

The number of infections in the U S is over 4,900,000 and deaths are over 160,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 19,100,000 and over 714,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 08, 2020, 08:43:04 pm

87 Days to go, and even though Trump's speeches about covid19 make little sense,
it seems some suddenly want to think he is doing a good job. I sometimes wonder
if these people are smart enough to come in out of the rain, otherwise why would
they want to believe a con artist like Trump who does nothing but lie.

Sadly it's nothing new, even during the great depression 90 years ago people voted
for Hoover, a republican president who did little to help the homeless and the starving.
FDR won, but Hoover still got around 40% of the vote.

Trump is wanting to blame the Democrats for not agreeing to go along with the GOP
on the latest relief bill. He claims he will do it instead, Well to do so goes against the
constitution. Only congress can authorize the spending of tax dollars. When told this
he just ignored it, and when told the courts would stop him, as usual he doesn't care,
and acted like it was wrong to make him follow the constitution.

What he should be doing is telling the GOP to come up with a reasonable compromise,
instead he just wants to make the Democrats look like the bad guys. Just more proof
he and the GOP care little for those suffering under a failing economy.  Mostly caused
by Trump and the GOP who stand by while Trump plays games with peoples lives.

The news media is crying the blues because Biden hasn't come out with his VP pick
yet. They should look to history, where most nominees make their choice known
during the parties convention. It's the media that is trying to push Biden into a
premature pick, and I think he is wise to make sure there isn't any hidden issues
that could require him to pick another later, and you know Trump would  love that.

The number of infections in the U S is almost 5,000,000 and deaths are over 161,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 19,400,000 and over 721,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.
www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 09, 2020, 12:07:52 pm

86 Days to go, and isn't it interesting that Trump is trying to legislate with executive
orders. Something he and the GOP complained that president Obama did during his
time in office. Executive orders is Trump's way of making decisions by decree.  Just
as a monarch would do. Trump may think autocracy is a good way to run a country,
but it will lead to disaster. No one man or woman is smart enough to run a country by
decree. Eventually their mistakes will add up, and the public at large will be wanting
a autocrats head on a pike.

Trump claimed he would always support Social security, and Medicare, but one of his
executive orders was to cut payroll taxes that support both. So as usual his claims
were lies. If he follows through with this, millions of the elderly and disabled will end
up starving and sick on the street, and with the loss of medicare to cover illness, many
will die.

Trump should study history, monarchs and autocrats usually, end up exiled or dead.
The Zar of Russia and his family all ended up dead when the public had enough of
the Zar's greed, and oppressive actions. Human nature often leads autocrats down the
same road. Wealth and power often leads people to think they are better than those
they rule, and want to call opposition a danger to their country. Trump is typical of all
autocrats, in that he thinks he knows whats best for his supporters, and the country.
Already he see's himself as necessary for the countries recovery, and should not be
allowed to lose reelection. Of course this could just be his narcissistic weakness,
where he just can't accept the fact he isn't capable of being a good president.

Russia is currently working to degrade Joe Biden, in hope this will assist  Trump's
reelection. It so happens China, and Iran are working to harm Trumps chances for
reelection. Any help to Biden by them would be accidental as their
intention is to hurt Trump alone.

Russia is doing this by posting lies about Biden on social media. Even pretending to
be African Americans in some  cases. So we should be suspect of any propaganda
about Biden. Especially if it makes him look bad. Russia knows Trump will go out of
his way to help Putin's plans to  expand their influence around the world. Given
another 4 years it could take decades to undo Russia's harm to the world. Not
counting the damage to our world trade.

Trump cons people into thinking he is working for them, when he only works to help
himself. His last so called news conferences were held at one of his golf resorts.
He isn't there because of golf as much as he can charge the government tens of
thousands for his stay. I have heard people running for office under the GOP
complaining about Democrats misusing tax money, but they never mention Trump
doing the same and worse.  Also they never mention how wasteful those
Trump has hired. When he was running, he claimed he would only hire the best
people, but failed to mention in his mind you have to be rich to be in that category,
and apparently crooked as well.

Also it was disgusting of Trump to  be at a resort where only millionaires are welcome.
While millions of Americans are living hand to mouth.  Just more proof that Trump has little
concern for the average American.


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,000,000 and deaths are over 162,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 19,600,000 and over 725,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on August 09, 2020, 01:53:16 pm
If anybody thought that the 4 Executive Orders that Trump signed on Friday to provide relief are going to help people, then guess again.
They may not.  :o You might get little or no financial help at all.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/09/politics/trump-executive-actions-coronavirus-explainer/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 10, 2020, 01:25:58 pm

85 days, and Trump claimed he would protect Social security, Well his order to  cut payroll tax
cuts money for social security and medicare. So let's hear where the money to  replace this tax
is coming from Mr president,  and none of your lies. I would never trust Trump, because if
reelected he will forget what he is promising now.  Just as he has for the promises he made
in 2016.

This business where Trump can't feed his ego with rally's has him all in a turmoil,
so he tries stupid Ideas to replace his rally's. If he would pull his head out of the sand
and do the job he was elected to do, he would be in much better shape. But no he won't
listen to smart people, and instead of working to stow this pandemic he worries about the
stock market, and his big business friends. As long as this virus is running amuck, the
economy isn't going any where but down.

These so called executive orders are meant to make the Democrats look bad, not to help
relieve anyone but Trump, because he knows if they oppose these unconstitutional orders he
only has to claim, "I tried to help, but the bad old Democrats won't let me."

Trump and his cronies know he isn't going to gain much between now and election day,
so all he and his friends, be they legal or not, will try to  pull Biden's support down. The
GOP even put a popular singer on the ballot in Michigan, hoping this will drain some of
Biden's support away with 3 candidates to vote for.

Trump brags that he is a great deal maker. Yet he fails to attend meeting to work out
compromises so bills can be passed for the good of the country. Instead he just tweets
and  runs around playing golf. By the size of his belly, he likely spends most of his time
sitting in a golf cart.

I hope if the Democrats manage to win, they will work to limit presidential powers. As
long as the office of the president has more power than congress, he or she can do bad
things if they happen to go rogue  as Trump has. It doesn't matter if the person has good
intentions or not. No one person should be allowed to take over the country.


The number of infections in the U S is almost 5,100,000 and deaths are over 163,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 19,900,000 and over 730,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 11, 2020, 01:15:29 pm

84 Days left, and  Trump continues to prove how little he cares about the American
public. Claiming athletes aren't going to die from this virus. Well that may be true, but
that's not the problem. It's their families and other people they come in contact
with, who could die or become very sick.

Trump's old buddy Putin of Russia is claiming Russia is first to have a vaccine.
Even though the vaccine is still going through trials, Putin is gambling that it will
safely prevent covid19 infections. He is likely doing this for the money, and
the prestige for mother Russia.  As it turns out, even Russian doctors are telling
people this is very premature in spite of Putin's claims.

These executive orders of Trump are turning out to be more fantasy than fact.
Trump as usual is playing his con artist game. Trump believes  he can talk people
into anything. Then when he fails, it's someone else"s fault. Usually he wants to
blame the Democrats, and if a GOP senator or congressman opposes him, he
calls them names, just as a spoiled child would. It's time we got rid of a president
who acts more like a spoiled rich kid than a man.

Many colleges and schools are wanting to open, in spite of warnings by doctors.
It seems, especially in GOP controlled states they are being told to do so. So we
can expect a surge in the number of infections. Especially in college towns and
cities.

Despite complaints Trumps crony he appointed as post master  general continues
to slow mail delivery. Apparently Trump thinks by slowing mail delivery, he has a better
chance to win in November. This could backfire on Trump if enough people believe
it was done only for political reasons. Because many people are  dependent on
the post office for regular delivery of social security checks, and medicine, and many
of those voted for Trump in 2016. Votes he can't afford to lose.

The number of infections in the U S is over 5,100,000 and deaths are over 163,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 20,000,000 and over 730,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on August 11, 2020, 05:47:59 pm
BIDEN PICKS HARRIS FOR VP!

Will she be up to the challenge?
Does she have enough skills and experience?
And most importantly, can Biden and Harris beat Trump and win in November? Only time will tell.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/2020-election-biden-vp-pick/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/politics/biden-vp-pick/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/opinions/why-kamala-harris-won-vp-content-axelrod/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/opinions/four-reasons-joe-biden-chose-kamala-harris/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on August 11, 2020, 09:14:05 pm
For those who want to know more about Kamala Harris and where she stands on various issues, you can read these two links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Kamala_Harris
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 12, 2020, 01:15:19 pm

83 Days to go, and Biden chooses senator Kamala Harris for a running mate. The first
woman of color on a major party top ticket. It would appear she has Trump's attention,
because he is calling her NASTY, Just as he does any woman who is smarter than he is.
Trump expects women to be sexy and little else. The moment  they oppose him, or what
he wants, they are NASTY. It was interesting that he called her a liar. Well if anyone is a
liar is Trump. A man who has told over 20,000 lies since taking the office of president.

I have a hunch before November we find out just how much of racist Trump is. Harris is
going to tickle that Nasty spot in Trump's mind enough to dig it out. Because Trump's ego won't
let him treat her with respect. He has already called her disrespectful because she opposed his
nominations while in the senate. In Trump's mind anyone who doesn't agree with him is being
disrespectful. Just shows any deal he makes is good for him and no one else.

Trump is going to have a hard time sitting on the fence, because many people of color will
see his personal attack on Harris as attacks on them as well. Already his political advisers
are telling Trump to stay away from personal attacks on her. Trump rarely listens to good
advice, so unless his poll numbers fall farther he isn't likely to stop.

The Democrats are hoping the choice to put Harris on with Biden, will encourage a large
voter turn out by people of color. Just as they did for Obama during his elections. Only
time will tell, but many are already talking about this choice will get them out to vote.
In 2016 Clinton only got 59% versus Obama getting 66% of the black vote. Just a few
points could put the Biden / Harris team well over Trump, a man who only got 8%.

Also if there is a surge in votes by people of color, down ballot candidates could greatly
benefit. Putting many more Democrats in state legislatures. Which would make it much
harder for the GOP to limit voting.

Sadly the GOP and Trump still oppose doing what is needed to slow covid19 here in the
U S. They only want to open up the economy. Apparently expecting the virus to  just
go away on it's own. A mistake that is killed over 150,000 people, and infecting over
50,000 daily. Trump seems to think people shouldn't worry about it, because to hear
him talk, it's just a bad cold. The worst part is doctors don't know what the long term
effects will be on humanity. New problems are showing up where many parts of our
bodies could be damaged, perhaps permanently. Even brain damage in some cases.

Trump tried to say Biden would hurt GOD. Now isn't that interesting coming from a man who
knows little or nothing about religion, much less wants to. Evangelicals may want to believe
otherwise, but playing with Trump to get what they want is like making a deal with the
devil. Of course that's between them and God.


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,100,000 and deaths are over 164,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 20,400,000 and over 740,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 13, 2020, 01:33:39 pm

82 Days to go, and Trump is claiming he has brought about peace in the middle east. This is
very premature, because in reality little has changed until nations in the region follow along.
It's doubtful, because Israel would have to agree to a 2 state agreement with the Palestinians,
and thta would mean giving up lands they claim as their own. Doing so would mean the removal
of Jewish settlements, and that isn't likely. 

This appears to be Trump wanting the American public to believe he has accomplished peace 
where no other  president has in the past quarter century. I am sure his supporters will point
and clame this shows how great Trump is. He knows even if this falls apart, the election will
havepast. Then it won't matter to  him.

Trump plainly stated he is refusing to fund the post office to prevent mail inn voting. So
what is his excuse when his lack of funding prevents people from receiving social security
checks and medicine they get by mail? He apparently doesn't care about all the people and
businesses who depend on the post office for their livelihood. All he and the GOP care about
is preventing people from voting for the Democrats. Because to allow this might cost them their
election.

Trump is still pushing for schools to return to full attendance. Even though  several of those who
have tried, are having to close due to infections. He doesn't care how this will spread the virus,  he
only wants the kids in school so the parents can return to work. He doesn't seem to realize. that
many of those parents don't have a job to return to, and depend on food bans to feed their family.

Being a billionaire, he has never known a day without something to eat, or a roof over his  head.  To
him, anyone who is poor and hungry is nothing but a loser, and can die for all he  cares. Trump is the
perfect Scrooge, it's a shame he isn't being haunted by ghosts.

Trump continues his attacks on Harris, apparently forgetting that Biden is his opponent. Well Trump
hates women who speak out against him, so it's likely his  ego will make it hard for him to stop. He
spent a week running a woman down in 2016 when he was running for president, and that was because
he didn't like the fact she won a beauty contest. He might think he can bully Harris into backing down,
 but I have a good hunch if anyone backs down it will be Trump.

People who are saving money due to  Trump's  payroll tax delay, best be
saving it, because if Trump loses you will have to give it back to the IRS
early next year. I imagine Trump came up with this hoping it would give
him votes from people who want to keep the money. Even if he is  elected
there is no guarantee they can, because only congress can cut taxes.

The number of infections in the U S is over 5,200,000 and deaths are over 165,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 20,400,000 and over 740,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 14, 2020, 01:18:06 pm

81 Days left, and the GOP controlled senate walks away from work on a relief bill, and went home.
This while millions of Americans need help to pay utilities, rent, mortgages, and buy food for their
families. Meanwhile the Trump administration spends trillions on loans to keep big business and
the stock  market from falling. It just proves Trump cares more for his billionaire cronies than the
average American.

Trump promised to give the unemployed $400 a week till the end of the year, but to get it the state
they live in has to add $100 to Trumps $300 for them to be eligible for the $400 weekly check. As it
turns out most states aren't paying $100 in weekly unemployment, so many unemployed won't get
what Trump promised.


During the impeachment of  Trump  the GOP complained saying let the voters decide if
they want to keep Trump or not. Now they are sitting on their hands while Trump tries
to steal the election for himself by preventing voting by mail. So one might ask why
don't they make Trump abide  by the voters in a fair election? Or did the GOP lie when
they said let the voters decide.

It seems  the GOP has become an outlaw organization by defending a
president who defies the law and the  constitution. They have spent the
last 3 1/2 years putting judges in the  courts, judges who claim to be loyal
to Trump, and the GOP, not the country, much less the constitution.

Trump has given the GOP a way to move the country in a direction they have
wanted for years, but feared to go. They never expected someone like Trump
could get away with defying the law and constitution the way Trump does. If
the public fails to putan end to Trump and his authoritarian designs, he will
put an end to our democracy and way of life. Our country has been moving
toward control by the rich for years, and Trump is just taking advantage of it.

Trump has apparently decided to  use covid19 to his advantage. By preventing the people
from voting by mail. By putting limits on testing he is able to create enough fear to keep
people away from the polls. He could care less that his plan has likely caused the deaths of
over 100,000 people. I could be wrong, but why else would Trump be against wide spread
testing,  the very best way to control covid19. His only excuse is claiming it increases the
reported number of infections, which makes no sense at all.

We can only wonder what Trump will  try if he fails to win in November,
Will he ask the supreme court to declare him the winner? Will he call on the
federal police to defend him, or worse yet call on a private armed force of
citizens if the courts  go against him? In that case would the military  follow
the apparent  winner, and force  Trump to leave the white house? Something
that could split the country, if his  supporters didn't back down.

I really don't think enough of Trumps supporters would  attempt to start a civil
war, because it would mean certain defeat. A defeat that would destroy their
hopes to change the country to fit the far rights plans. Plans to create an apart
hied  system for people of color in this  country. Return the LBGTQ  to  the closet,
and deny all but  professionals immigration into the country.


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,200,000 and deaths are over 168,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 21,000,000 and over 755,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 15, 2020, 01:27:58 pm

80 Days left, and Trump and the GOP are out to destroy the postal service. This didn't start
with Trump, and his multimillionaire friend he made post master. A man who Trump expects
to privatize the Post office, and prevent his defeat due to mail in voting. Years ago the GOP
passed a law requiring the postal service to maintain a retirement fund much larger than
any private business in the country. This was designed to make it all but impossible for
the post office to exist without a subsidy or postal rates far beyond rates charged by
commercial  delivery services.

This is just more of the GOP's work to reduce government. They apparently  believe only
the private sector should operate all services except the justice system tax collection and
the military. They also believe all laws and regulations should be decided from the bottom
up. This is a business friendly design which allows local control mostly by big business and
the rich, to  decide how they are regulated. If you think this is a good idea. So would a fox,
if allowed to decide  how a farmer builds his chicken house. I really don't think a farmer
would approve that bottom up plan. Neither should we agree with the GOP's.

While it is true people making regulations and laws, should accept input from those affected,
we can't allow business interests to make all the decisions, because if we do the environment
and public interests will be harmed. This is why workers have to unionize, to prevent abuse
by greedy business owners, and the rich.

I do think many in the GOP have good intentions, but businesses have to be regulated , or
human  greed will prevail in the end. It's time the American voter tells those far right radicals
in the GOP  it's time to go. We must return to moderates in the congress and the senate. Joe
Biden and  Harris are both moderates, no matter what the GOP or Trump claim.  If Trump is
returned,  we are looking at economic  ruin, because the Trump administration will continue
to pump  billions into the stock market while allowing the public at  large to starbe in the
streets. If the GOP keep control of the senate and Trump is still in the white house. He will
have no limits on him at all. It won't matter if there are riots in the streets, Trump will stop
them with force, claiming he has the elected right to do so.

The only way to return the country to benefit all Americans  is with our votes. Some might
think the military could take over, but that would create even more chaos. Hopefully it won't
come to that, because it would turn the country upside down, and millions would suffer during
the turmoil.

The number of infections in the U S is over 5,300,000 and deaths are over 168,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 21,000,000 and over 760,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on August 15, 2020, 01:35:47 pm

82 Days to go, and Trump is claiming he has brought about peace in the middle east. This is
very premature, because in reality little has changed until nations in the region follow along.
It's doubtful, because Israel would have to agree to a 2 state agreement with the Palestinians,
and thta would mean giving up lands they claim as their own. Doing so would mean the removal
of Jewish settlements, and that isn't likely. 

This appears to be Trump wanting the American public to believe he has accomplished peace 
where no other  president has in the past quarter century. I am sure his supporters will point
and clame this shows how great Trump is. He knows even if this falls apart, the election will
havepast. Then it won't matter to  him.

Trump plainly stated he is refusing to fund the post office to prevent mail inn voting. So
what is his excuse when his lack of funding prevents people from receiving social security
checks and medicine they get by mail? He apparently doesn't care about all the people and
businesses who depend on the post office for their livelihood. All he and the GOP care about
is preventing people from voting for the Democrats. Because to allow this might cost them their
election.

Trump is still pushing for schools to return to full attendance. Even though  several of those who
have tried, are having to close due to infections. He doesn't care how this will spread the virus,  he
only wants the kids in school so the parents can return to work. He doesn't seem to realize. that
many of those parents don't have a job to return to, and depend on food bans to feed their family.

Being a billionaire, he has never known a day without something to eat, or a roof over his  head.  To
him, anyone who is poor and hungry is nothing but a loser, and can die for all he  cares. Trump is the
perfect Scrooge, it's a shame he isn't being haunted by ghosts.

Trump continues his attacks on Harris, apparently forgetting that Biden is his opponent. Well Trump
hates women who speak out against him, so it's likely his  ego will make it hard for him to stop. He
spent a week running a woman down in 2016 when he was running for president, and that was because
he didn't like the fact she won a beauty contest. He might think he can bully Harris into backing down,
 but I have a good hunch if anyone backs down it will be Trump.

People who are saving money due to  Trump's  payroll tax delay, best be
saving it, because if Trump loses you will have to give it back to the IRS
early next year. I imagine Trump came up with this hoping it would give
him votes from people who want to keep the money. Even if he is  elected
there is no guarantee they can, because only congress can cut taxes.

The number of infections in the U S is over 5,200,000 and deaths are over 165,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 20,400,000 and over 740,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
On the middle east:
I personally live in Israel so I might be able to give some insight. You are correct that Israel will never agree to a 2 state soloution. In fact, Netanyahu is actively trying to find loopholes in the deal to continue the annexation. Honestly though, I don't think a 2 state soloution would be beneficial to either side.
The truth is, this isn't about palestine. It's about Iran.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 16, 2020, 01:02:21 pm
Thank you for your input about Israel Hans, I agree, Iran with Russia's help is a big problem for the area.


79 Days to go, and Trump lied when he said if I am elected I will put a end to the
payroll tax. A tax that supports social security and medicare. People need to know
only the legislature can put an end to this tax, or any tax required by the American
public. The president can defer collection of a tax, but he cannot do away with one.

Even the GOP isn't ready to stop social security and medicare for the elderly. This
plan by Trump is just a political con job, because in January workers will have to pay
back  every dime. If Trump is reelected, he might further delay the collection, but the
tax will have to be paid eventually. So workers best set up a savings account and
put the money in it, so they will have it to pay when required.

Trump claims he is doing this to help the economy, but the only way to help the
economy during this pandemic is to get rid of the pandemic. Playing with taxes
trying to help his reelection won't do anything, but cause more problems.

His wise guy plan to disrupt mail service to make it harder for people to
vote will likely  backfire as well. People depend on the mail for many things
besides voting, and  Trump's  disrupting the mail, is playing with fire,
because rural Americans are more   dependent on mail than anyone
else, and it was rural Americans to  elected Trump  to begin with.

Trump and the GOP are still trying to  claim it was their work that built the economy we
had before the pandemic. That strong economy was built with the good work of the
Democrats, and as usual the GOP always wants to claim whats good, and blame the
Democrats for what's bad.

Trump is claiming a resurgence of the economy, although I have a hunch there are millions
of unemployed workers, and several thousand businesse owners who would disagree.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

 
Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is, the country needs young healthy poll workers during this  pandemic.

Also to fight Trump's disruption of the U S mail, Be sure to vote early. No later than
October 15, go to your county clerk if possible if you wish to vote early. That way
you can avoid the mail all together by voting absent T directly.

The number of infections in the U S is over 5,400,000 and deaths are over 170,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 21,300,000 and over 760,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 17, 2020, 12:52:20 pm
The Virtual Democratic convention starts tonight. It will be on msnbc at 7pm eastern.

78 Days to go, and I think most people if ask, Are you better off today than you were
4 years ago would say  no. I think most people would have said this even without
covid19. Even though the unemployment was low, so were wages, and the economy
was a good 2 percent below what Trump promised it would be, and was still falling.

Trump claims he is trying to make the post office more efficient. If this is the case
why is the post master having high speed sorting machines removed, and even
destroyed, machines that cost millions of dollars. Why has Trump waited till just
a few months before his election to do this? If he really wanted to save the
country money by updating the post office, he should have done it in 2017
not 2020. He even said he was wanting to prevent mail in voting. Something
the GOP has been wanting to  have for years. But since Trump their lord and
master wants to stop it, they say very little for fear he will bite their political
heads off. 

Trump is still complaining about how the Post office delivers packages  for
Amazon. I have a hunch this is because Amazon refuses to give Trump a
lot of money for his reelection. The owner of Amazon is noticeably absent
during corporate meetings at the white house. So that's a good sign Amazon
isn't playing ball with Trump.

If the people don't get out and vote, allowing Trump and the GOP to hold
power, they will continue to remove all social programs, or limit their scope
to please the top 5% of Americans. They want all aid for the poor and sick
to be done with private donations. Where people have to  beg in the streets
to survive. These people don't seem to understand, if people get desperate
enough there will be a revolution to take down the Rich, and will work to
setup a social system of government.

This has happened before, Russia, and France both put many rich people
to death during their revolutions. It seems when people gain wealth they
allow greed to blind them to human needs. Yes some of the very rich in their
declining years, start donating money, hoping it seems to buy their way into
heaven.

Personally, I don't think Trump will ever take pity on anyone. He will likely
get stuck in the proverbial eye of the needle on his way to the  hereafter.

The speaker of the house is calling congress back this coming weekend to have a
vote requiring the post office to properly deliver the mail until this pandemic  is
over. Then it will be up to the GOP controlled senate and Trump to do the same.
Trump best realize over 90^% of Americans like the post office, social security,
and medicare.


Also Trump is breaking his oath of office by his disruption of the
postal service, as the constitution requires we have a post office
that will provide proper mail service. It's the job of the president
to protect the constitution which Trump hasn't done.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

 
Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is, t

The number of infections in the U S is over 5,400,000 and deaths are over 170,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 21,700,000 and over 775,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 18, 2020, 01:11:02 pm

77 Days left, and the GOP is feeling the  pressure due to Trumps attack on the
post office. Apparently as a man who likely never felt dependent on the post office
in the past, Trump  has little knowledge of how the common citizen depends on the
U S mail. Where Trump can use many kinds of delivery services, the public doesn't have
the resources or the money to do the same.

Trumps resistance to admitting any kind of mistake prevents him from backing down.
Instead he continues his claim voting by mail will lead to fraud,  and uses  this as his
reason to disrupt mail service across the country. As opposition builds he claims it's all
about making the post office more efficient. This claim isn't playing well since the real
reason for the slow down is rearing it's ugly political head. Especially after Trump
admitted it was to discourage voting my mail.

Trump actually made the claim if everyone was allowed to vote the GOP would lose every
election. This just proves Trump fears an honest election will end his presidency, and will
do all he can to  rig it in his favor. Think not? Trump said the other day the only way he
could lose, would be if it was rigged against him, just shows his ego won't let him believe
he isn't  liked by a majority of honest Americans.

Also Trump may actually believe he is doing a good job, and can't see how someone doing a good
job like he is could lose an honest election. People that really know Trump, say he isn't mentally
capable  of doing the job of president. Trump's inability to admit mistakes or lies pretty much 
proves this. The sad thing is how the GOP stands up for him, even though they know he isn't 
fit for the job.  If you think  not, just remember how bad GOP members talked  about Trump
before he was nominated to run under the GOP banner.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,400,000 and deaths are over 171,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 21,900,000 and over 775,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 19, 2020, 01:42:47 pm

76 Days to go, and Trump's corrupt post master general claims he will stop his changes to the  post
office till after the election. So will he undo the damage he has done so far, or not? I have a hunch
he and Trump want to leave the damage as is. It seems it was mostly pressure from retired veterans
that halted Trump's disgusting plan to disrupt the U S Mail. Unless service is restored, this pressure
won't end, but grow worse.

Trump's plans to help the GOP limit voting by anyone but white Americans, may actually cost him votes.
Because it's hurting the people who helped him win in 2016. Trump's voting base is too small to elect him
if it shrinks very much. Thousands of those who have died from covid19 were Trump supporters, and
depending on where they were, could cost him a state.

It seems  some industry workers feel Trump will protect their jobs. I fear they are sadly mistaken,
because once Trump doesn't need them, he will forget any promise he might have made to them.
The steel industry is a good example, because Trump bought steel and aluminum from foreign
manufactures when he built Trump Tower. At the time he didn't need votes, so he could care less
if an American steel or aluminum worker had a job or not. So if Trump wins in November, he won't
need votes any more. So if it benefits him he will hand those jobs to a foreign country.

At the time Trump was wanting to buy Greenland, he was thinking about selling Puerto Rico.  An
island with 3 million American citizens living there. Trump doesn't like Puerto Rico, because to
him  it's a dirty place filled with poor people, and we know Trump considers poor people losers.

When Trump was running for president, he said he would hire  the best  people and drain the
swamp. Well it seems people have to be very rich and ready to kiss Trump's backside to be
considered to be one of the best people. He apparently doesn't care if they are honest or not,
just  as long as they are  loyal and  give him money. And the swamp? it's deeper than ever
before. Filled with lobbyists carrying bags of money to give Trump.

Trump's supporters don't seem to care how much he wastes tax money. As if they think
he deserves it along with money given to him by the rich. They don't even seem to mind
when his cronies grab tax dollars. As long as Trump says it's good they seem to be okay
with it. It's these people Trump figures will give him another 4 years, and I expect him to
try for a third term if he wins.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,500,000 and deaths are over 172,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 22,200,000 and over 780,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 20, 2020, 02:03:49 pm

75 Days left, and Trump as always denies knowledge of anything that might make him
look bad. Trump claimed he supports the Curds, and fails to mention he allowed Turkey
to attack them right after they helped us with ISIS. Trump continues to cry about all the
investigations about him, and his taxes. Of course to hear him he is totally innocent of any
wrong doing.

Then when asked about any wrong doing he always tries to shift the discussion to someone else. In most
cases he wants to blame Obama, especially if its related to his work as president. He called the speeches at
the Democratic convention, "Showboating", implying there wasn't any truth to what was said.

Trump invited a conspiracy group into the white house, a group that claims there is a world
wide organization of pedophiles  who plan to get rid of Trump because he Trump is working
to  stop them. Instead of denouncing this idiotic conspiracy, and this claim the organization 
is using high speed cell phone signals to infect people with covid19, Trump just said "I don't
know, but  if true he would be against it.  This loony bin group should never have been let in
to the white house, much less talk to the president.  It's just Trump wanting to place a seed of
doubt in peoples minds.  I am sure Trump has been told this group is full of crap, but with Trump
he might actually believe it. This group also claims the organization is guilty of cannibalism.
Trump when asked wouldn't say they were wrong.  Association with people like this only gives
them credibility. Trump either doesn't care or isn't smart enough to know he is putting people at
risk. He just likes the fact they talk nice about him.

Another one of Trump's cronies has been arrested, and of course  Trump claims he hasn't any
knowledge of it, or what Banner might have been doing. He just talks about how sad it is. When
asked why he Trump had so many friends who have been accused or arrested for wrong doing.
He just changed the subject, claiming Obama spied on him, and cried about how bad he has been
treated, which is just more of his lies. 



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,

The number of infections in the U S is over 5,500,000 and deaths are over 173,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 22,500,000 and over 787,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on August 20, 2020, 03:21:51 pm
Steve Bannon was arrested for fraud. Gotta love it!  :D Karma doing it's job! But........how long will this last? Knowing Trump (and Barr), he'll probably pardon Bannon like he did all his other cronies.  >:(

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/08/20/trump-steve-bannon-indicted-border-wall-fundraising-vpx.cnn

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/private-border-wall-timeline/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/steve-bannon-charged/h_ce67f00375e5f922f231e4e90d1e4a8a

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/bannon-build-the-wall-indictment/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/steve-bannon-donald-trump-2016-campaign/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 21, 2020, 01:10:27 pm



75 Days to go, and another opponent of the Russian president is facing
death, as many others have over the years. Not just to face death, but
to often die under unusual circumstances.  Opponents of other authoritarian
dictators often end up dead, or exiled.

 If Trump who is a fan of authoritarian dictators like Putin is re elected, it is
possible he may decide to do the same. All it takes is putting people in
positions of power where with the cover of national security could cause
people to disappear. People who have damaging information, or enough
popularity to cost him a election.  This is how dictators hold power, and it's
possible Trump could convince himself he should continue as president,
and with the help of his supporters remain until he decides to
leave. I  have heard Trump mused the idea of starting a line of
succession. Where he would pass the presidency to his son,

Although all this may seem highly improbable, With the GOP putting
judges on courts who are loyal to Trump, it would be difficult  to  remove
-Trump from power. With support from armed citizens, and the justice
department, it would take  the military to remove him.

So far Trump  hasn't been able to find military  leaders who will
give him total support. If he was to win, he would have another
4 years  to gain that support. Then as with other dictators around 
the  world,Trump could use military force to keep power.

Yes all this seems unbelievable, but with another 4 years, and
the chicken GOP lined up behind him, almost anything is possible.

Today Trumps post master cronie was at a virtual Senate  hearing.
He claimed the sorting machines he had removed weren't needed.
Though postal workers claim otherwise. Several claims by him have
been disputed. This man may be looking at jail time if Trump loses
the election. Senators can lie like dogs, but people in hearings can
go to jail for lies.

One GOP senator made the claim phone calls with complaints sounded
scripted. This senator should lose his seat for telling an obvious lie.

Trump is trying to tell who ever will listen that the Democrats were
running the country down during their convention. Of course Trump
isn't willing to  admit  it was him they were talking about, and likely
hopes the public will believe him and not the Democrats.

Every authoritarian dictator wants the people to see them as
great leaders, and Trump is no different.

Those who plan to vote for Trump should realize the following.
Trump will not change.

With Trump we will have to hope covid19
 disappears.

With Trump millions of people will end up homeless.

With Trump millions will be lined up needing food for their families.

With Trump millions will still be looking for a job.

With Trump millions will lose health care.

With Trump millions with preexisting conditions won't be able to
get affordable health insurance.

With Trump our infrastructure will continue to decline.

With Trump our air quality will continue to become worse.

With Trump pollution from industry will grow worse.

With Trump our forests and lands will end up in the hands of people who will destroy
them for profit.

With Trump there will be cuts to social security, medicare, and Medicate.

These are just a few things we can expect with the re election of Trump.
Things that a Biden presidency would work to fix and improve. Where Trump
and the GOP would not.

Trump's friend Bannan was released on 5 million dollars bail. He was arrested while on a 150 ft yacht owned by a
Chinese Billionaire. One could wonder who put up all that money for bail, and why is he cozy with a Chinese
billionaire?

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,500,000 and deaths are over 174,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 22,800,000 and over 788,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org







Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 22, 2020, 01:02:14 pm

74 Days left, and Trump apparently has no interest in calling Russia down for the
apparent poisoning of a political opponent of president Putin. Though virtually every
other democratic country around the world has done so. Just more proof that Trump
has no interest in saying anything the Russian president might not like. It seems
Trump never bad mouths anyone who he feels is supportive of him, and we know
Putin is currently helping Trump with his reelection. So that makes Putin his greatest
friend.

Every time one of Trumps cronies gets in legal trouble, suddenly he hardly knows
them. Even with solid evidence he continues to lie about his connection he had. He
claimed he knew little of Bannock's wall project, even though it was reported he had
close connections to it prior to Bannock's arrest. No evidence he was party to the fraud
and charges though.

When Trump was running for the office of president, he claimed  he would hire the
best people. So why has seven of those so called best people been arrested and
charged with crimes? It seems to me if Trump was so smart, why would he be
connected with so many criminals?

Stories from people who know Trump, continue to claim Trump is mentally
incompetent, crazy, narcissistic, and likely suffers from dementia. This keeps
the White  House staff in turmoil, as they never know what his state of mind
might be. The worst part is the conservative media is aware of this, but are
protective of him, apparently  because of their opposition to the Democrats. 
So they manipulate him for the benefit  of the GOP.

We can only hope this dangerous game of theirs doesn't end up getting us in a war,
It's bad enough their meddling has likely cause thousands to die from covid19.
It's sad we have people that support conservative media who cares so little for
our democracy that they support a corrupt president like Trump. It's true I don't
agree with conservative ideas, but they should put our democracy above all else.
The GOP used to do so, but as the old guard  died off it has changed in a way that
harms the country to protect the richest Americans. I fear it may take a war that
puts our country at great risk, before people will put democracy first agains.

Trump claims he is for the people, but all his actions say otherwise. Never before
has a president made the claim that the only way he could lose the next election is
because of fraud. He apparently is afraid of losing, because he doesn't want to do a
proper job of being president. A  job that requires 24/7 365 days a year if done properly.
Something Trump has no plan to do, or ever did plan to do. Trump only wants to pretend
to be president. He never wanted to be anything but a popular rich playboy. This is why
he went bankrupt 6 times, because he just wanted to play instead of working. Now he wants
to play at being president, while the country falls apart.
 


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,600,000 and deaths are over 175,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 22,700,000 and over 793,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org







Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 23, 2020, 01:37:15 pm

72 Day's to go, and will the American people decide to keep the most corrupt
president in  history, or return to a government we can look to that will work
for the people? If people who consider them selves as being republicans continue
to look to Trump as being a  conservative republican, they need to wake up, because
Trump is doing a con job on them.

Trump pretends to support anyone who claims to like him. It doesn't go  any
deeper  than that. It just boils down where the support of Trump is nothing
more  than   making a deal with the devil, to go after policies so called
republicans don't like. If these people really cared about the country,
Trump would  be sitting in prison, not the white house.

If Trump stays in the white house, his supporters may cheer, but they
will be cheering  the end of our  democracy as we know it. Because
Trump is putting us on the road to a  government much like the one
in Russia. A government run by billionaires who step on everyone
else to get what they want. In short an oligarchy.

You might ask why Trump likes the way the Russian president runs
his country. It's because Putin and Trump likes strong man governments.
Putin believes authoritarianism is the only way, because it doesn't
depend on a group of elected members of congress. People who
often do nothing but argue. While there is some truth in this. A one
man government is bad for the people and a country.

Tomorrow starts the GOP convention, and it appears Trump wants to
make it a 4 day rally. Because he plans to speak each night, where he
should wait till the last night. to give others a chance to explain why he
should be elected to another term. As usual Trump thinks only he knows
how to run the GOP convention. So we can expect to see and hear Trump
brag about how good a president he has been since taking office. Trump called
the democrat convention dark, but Trump has been running on hate and  fear
from the beginning. So we can expect more of Trump's hate and fear with his
words and videos during the convention.

People who plan to vote for Democrats should go vote absent T in person as their
county seats as early as possible. Offer to take others along to do the same. This
way Trump, or the GOP can do little to stop voters. If you wish to vote absent T by
mail, do it as early as you can, because Trump is hoping his work to slow mail
deliveries will keep your  vote from counting. Another good reason to vote absent T
in person is to prevent GOP county officers from calling your ballot invalid, because
they have been throwing ballots out by the thousands for any reason they can find.
You being there will make it much harder for them to do this.



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,600,000 and deaths are over 178,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 23,000,000 and over 798,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 24, 2020, 01:24:03 pm
 
71 Days left, and the GOP convention has started along with the role call of states. It
appears Trump wants to have the role call at a time that doesn't enter fear with his
free television time. Time he can use to brag or lie to Americans across the country.

Not only this, Trump is having GOP members gather together in a crowd to listen to campaign
 rhetoric. Exposing them to covid19. Just because Trump loves crowds. During the Democratic
convention they kept it virtual to keep from putting people at risk.

The house had a hearing with Trump's postmaster general today. He failed to give
proper answers to questions about deliveries of medicine, and refused to tell why large
trucks ran empty, leaving  bags of mail behind. Denying reports by postal workers when
they told of delays and stacks of mail left undelivered.  He wanted people to believe all
this is just political claims to  mislead the public. Well people who are left waiting for
mail deliveries will continue to complain, and a lot of them are republicans.

I expect most activities by Trump will be campaign related this week. Because our corrupt
president is running scared, because he is looking at jail time if he loses.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,700,000 and deaths are over 178,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 23,500,000 and over 808,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 25, 2020, 12:59:05 pm

70 Days left, and the first day of Trump's convention  was pathetic,  with nothing about
what Trump planned  for the next 4 years. Virtually all was to say Joe Biden would
destroy the economy, and Trump would continue to make the country great
with jobs for all, which he has  not. Nothing about wages, or affordable health care. 
Trumps son  wants to get rid of the payroll tax, which would eliminate social security
and medicare. Basically Trump and company want to turn the country over to the
rich, and allow the poor and elderly to starve and die in the gutter.

I am sure  Trump and the  GOP will claim full protection for social security and
medicare. Just as they promise to  make sure people with preexisting  conditions  will
-have affordable health insurance, Which is a lie.  The GOP has been wanting to get
rid of social security, medicare, and medicate  for many years, but afraid to try,
but Trump will, and walk away from the harm it would cause. Because  he considers
those without money losers, and could care less if they  die.

Trump wants people to forget his mistakes, and the deaths caused by covid19. If they
don't he wants them to think the number of deaths would be much higher without him.
Trump wants people to believe he is against immigration with one hand, and for it with the
other. He claims with Biden the cities will burn, but fails to mention what he warns is happening
while he is president with months to go. He claims suburbia will decline with people of color
moving in. He apparently doesn't realize people of color already live there,and the white upper
class is moving to the inner city.

Trump wants people to think he can save lives by pushing treatments faster than people of
science recommends. Though on one hand it may be good, but experience shows it to cause
harm, especially if it doesn't work as expected. This is basically treating the public like Guinea-pigs.
To see if it works or not by saying it will. No respected scientist would do such a thing with humans.

The people who founded the United states offered to make George Washington
a monarch, but he said no, because he wanted this country to be a democracy.
Unlike England which had a law making body, but the King could over rule it.

This is what Trump wants, to be a monarch with the power to over rule the legislature.
It seems his supporters want this as well. They best hope he doesn't become a king,
because, as king he would have no reason to follow the wishes of his supporters,
and as King  he could pass on his powers to his children. To create a Trump Dynasty. 
By then even Trump supporters would likely want to make the name Trump a hated word.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,700,000 and deaths are over 180,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 23,700,000 and over 813,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 26, 2020, 01:28:31 pm

69 Days to go, and the second day for the republican convention was full of misleading
statements and lies. One of the blackest lies was that Trump can't be bought. Trump
made this claim in 2016. It wasn't long before he was holding his hand out, and since
being in office he has accepted over 100 million dollars from the rich across the nation.
Not only that there is a train of lobbyist filing in and out of the white house every day.
Also virtually every good position in Trumps administration was bought with big donations
to Trump, and this is just what we know about. Trump has used his position as president
to make tens of millions from his personal businesses. and millions  more have come from
foreign countries  to actually buy favor from Trump. A man who claims he can't be  bought.
It is true most politicians give good jobs to those who help them get elected, but they don't
claim they can't be bought.

They claim Trump is a law and order president. This is laughable, over his years in office, Trump
has broken law after law, and pardoned law breakers, not out of compassion, but for political
favors and loyalty. Also Trump has broken his oath of office for not protecting the constitution, or
the people of the country. Trump treats the presidency as a partisan position like a member of the
house or senate would, by only supporting those  who voted for him. It's not the business of the
president to only support his, or  her party as Trump has. A president must support all the people
according to the constitution first, and party second.

Trump has told our nations law enforcement to be tough on anyone who breaks the law. Instead of supporting  demonstrators across the nation, he sends federal police which act like storm troopers who fail to respect the
demonstrators civil rights. This just makes things worse, because it's the mistreatment of minorities  that is
causing the demonstrations to begin with.


Over the years Trump has failed to protect the nations security by not standing up to foreign leaders.
By failing to properly support our allies in Europe and others around the world.  Instead he supports
dictators, especially if they offer him, his family,  or his friends money.

Trump just can't get it out of his head, that running a country is like running a business. He seems
to think as in a business it's all about money, or trade.  So when he talks to foreign leaders he tries
a business plan, apparently because he thinks they think the same way he does. Then when this doesn't
work he walks away. This is how he treats others in business. Make a offer then if they don't agree he
walks out on them, because compromise means treating others as equals. Something he never wants
to admit.

This hurricane is likely an irritation to Trump, because it's distracting news reports from his convention. Those affected best be thankful that Trump is facing an election, because it means he will go out of his way to help
them. So he can point and brag about how good a president he is. Especially in an area where he had a lot of
voter support in 2016.



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,800,000 and deaths are over 180,000.
These numbers are likely too low, as testing has been cut  in most GOP states, because
Trump doesn't want people to know how bad covid19 is.

World wide the number of infections is over 23,900,000 and over 819,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 27, 2020, 01:17:48 pm

68 Days to go, and the GOP convention continues with misleading stories and lies to
support Trump their king. Seems to me if Trump is such a great president, why not tell
the American public the honest  truth about Trump and everything he does? Why not
tell the truth about all the people he has appointed to government jobs? After all if
these people are the best, their history should make Trump look all the better. But no,
they and Trump are afraid the truth would turn the people against them. They don't
trust the public to blindly accept Trumps lawless acts, and corruption. So  they cover it
with lies.

In the past the GOP believed they could convince the American people their policies
were the best for the country. They didn't resort to lies,  while some did stretch the truth
somewhat, they really believed their ideas were better. ,Sadly about 40 years ago the
GOP came under a different group of people. People who were tired of being honest  ,
because it made it difficult to win elections. So rather than working hard to make the
country better for all, they wanted it better for them selves, and their rich friends. These
people did not care how they won, as long as they did. So with lies and misleading
stories they helped their selves and rich friends gain power and wealth at the expense
of the  middle class across the nation.

All this dishonesty over the years has cause many people to not trust the government,
and created a desire for change. A change that attracted Trump, who saw a opportunity
to enrich himself, by running for president. Not really expecting to win, he mainly
wanted to make his name more valuable around the world.

Now because the GOP failed to hold him accountable he is wanting to be president
for another term. Partly due to greed, and partly because he knows he is facing prosecution
when he leaves office, and another 4 years would make prosecution for his crimes past the
time they can be legally charged.

Now he is claiming with him as president our cities will be protected against violent
demonstrations. He  wants to blame Democrats for allowing them, and sends federal
police into cities, police that act like storm troopers that violate the civil rights of
demonstrators.  Trump wants to look the other way when outsiders invade peaceful
demonstrations. Outsiders likely supported by the far right to give demonstrators a bad
name. Democrats must not stand by and let Trump get by with this, or the public will
start to believe it.  Also there will likely be more followers of Trump who will take their
fire arms to demonstrations with the idea Trump wants them to kill looters.  Just as a
misled young man did, and now faces a double murder charge after killing two demonstrators.
A charge Trump can't pardon even if he wanted to.

When asked one of Trump's spin doctors tried to say the VP's statement he wanted to  stop
violence, included police violence even though he didn't say it. It would seem to me if the Trump
campaign would want to be explicit about any violence including the police if they really meant it.
It's likely they don't want to be seen as anti police for any  reason.

I think it's interesting that Trump is claiming he will prevent city violence when this kind of violence has
increased ever since he took office. Of course he will never admit that. So we should ask how he plans
to reduce it if we give him another 4 years to do it in.

It's time we take America back, Trump hopes the violence will get worse,
because he believes it will help him politically. Biden will work to remove
the reason for the violence, unlike Trump who just pours gas on it with
more police violence.

The Trump campaign is trying to claim the pandemic is going away, even though
it's killing 1000 people a day. Even to say almost 200,000 deaths aren't all that
bad. Even if a vaccine was available today, it will take months to make it available
to  us all, and Trump has no idea how to do it, and will make sure his rich friends
are at the head of the line.

Trump and the GOP, have and are improperly using public property as a backdrop for their political
speeches. Trump treats the White House like his personal property, which it is not. Also it's illegal
for government workers to take part in any political activity. Yet Trump has had many of his
staff help him with his reelection campaign. But of course the GOP looks the other way, but
you can be sure if a Democrat dared to do this, they would be raising the roof over it.

Tonight Trump makes an acceptance speech in front of a thousand supporters in Washington DC.
Then there will be a fireworks display at the Washington Monument. Since few will be wearing
masks, they best hope for a windy night.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,900,000 and deaths are over 181,000.
These numbers are likely too low, but Trump doesn't want us to know the real numbers.

World wide the number of infections is over 24,400,000 and over 825,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 28, 2020, 01:23:25 pm

 67 Days left, and the  last day of the Trump convention is  history.  To hear Trump
you would think Biden is already president, and the people must vote for Trump to
save the country. Trump wants people to think only he is able to run the country. Only
he is able to restore the economy. Trump's acceptance of nomination from the GOP
while standing on the White house grounds. This evenings last night  was a criminal
act by Trump. The Hatch Act disallows any use of government workers or property for
any political reason. So every government worker or official attending this convention
on white house property has committed a criminal act.

With Trump the White House has become the house of Trump. Because in his mind
it no longer belongs to  the people. He is so afraid he has put several layers of
fencing around the building to keep the public away. Just as he would if it was his
private residence.

Trump wants the people to forget about covid19. To forget about the deaths it has
and still causes. Because he knows he is solely responsible for the damage, and
deaths it is causing across the nation. He wants people to believe he prevented
millions more deaths, but he failed fearing if he warned people, of the danger, it would
 cost him his election.

Nations around the world have shown that with good leadership the virus could be
largely controlled. A fact that proves how inept Trump is. No matter what he claims.
I am sure Trump was told how to control the virus, but he was afraid his followers
would not like it. So he handed virus control to state governors instead of doing the job
him self. Passing the job of being the leader he was elected to be to others.

Not only was the last night full of lies, Trump wanting an audience put over 1500
people at risk  of being infected by covid19. Most weren't even tested.  Of course
Trump was standing at a safe distance away. By the time  he finished a 70 minute
speech, he was  sweating and shaky. Trump  has done his best to hide his physical 
health condition. I have notice he often gets short of breath after a short walk. Not
every time, so perhaps we should question is ability to do the job for 4 more years. 

The GOP and Trump put people in front of the camera who claimed Trump helped them,
and would support him. These stories  sounded seductive, but many more people have
suffered under the rule of Trump than have  done better. 

Members of Trump's family spoke of how kind and compassionate he is, but would you
really expect them to  say anything else? After all Trump has a vindictive nature, and would
punish them financially  if they made him look bad.  Virtually everyone  who spoke the truth
about him have been fired. Like a mob boss Trump puts loyalty above all, and punishes those
who are not loyal.  This might be expected, but Trump's expects people to stay loyal, even if
they have to  break the law, or go against the  constitution.

The man police shot 7 times in the back lays in a hospital bed  paralyzed  from the waist  down.
Yet authorities fear his escape and have him shackled to the bed. This black man was apparently
unarmed when he was shot. It seems the police havebeen trained to shoot first and ask questions
later. Especially if the  person they are after is black.

The young  man who apparently killed two demonstrators was white, and even though 
he was carrying a AR 15  past the police after the shooting. They just ignored him. you can
be sure if he had been black, he would have been killed by the police. This attitude  toward
black people has to change, no matter who is president. Biden like all humans isn't perfect,
but minorities  will have a much better break with Biden in the white house.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,900,000 and deaths are over 180,000.
These numbers are too low and at least 5% higher, but Trump doesn't want you to
know.

World wide the number of infections is over 24,500,000 and over 831,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 29, 2020, 01:12:24 pm

66 Days left, and I find it odd when Trump supporters complain about being told what
to do by the government, turn around and let Trump tell them what to do. It seems
a lot of people are like sheep, and look to what they think if a strong leader to guide
them. They don't want to think for them selves, but wait to have someone grab
them by the collar, and show them the way. The danger with this is you have
to trust them to have your own good in mind and not theirs instead, as Trump does.
Because he will use people for his own benefit. Going back to the sheep analogy,
Trump as their leader would lead them to slaughter if it benefits him in the short
term. Rather than a way to benefit them instead.

Sadly Trump has led over 100 thousand people to their death, by not providing
proper leadership. He fears taking any responsibility for anything that might
turn people against him. The mark of a good leader, is one who cares about those
they lead. They don't worry about them selves as Trump does.

Trump is so worried about loosing the election, he tells his followers they should
oppose his loss because it would have to be rigged for him to lose. No president
in our history has had the gall to claim a election would be rigged  against them.
This is just more proof that Trump isn't fit to be president. This along with his
lawlessness, and breaking of his oath of office shows how little he cares for our
nation.

Click on the following link to  fact check Trump's acceptance speech.
https://www.axios.com/cnn-fact-check-trump-chyron-cdb00eec-3db9-453b-a114-2053a0a5297d.html



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is nearly 6,000,000 and deaths are over 181,000.
It's very likely the number of people affected in the U S is much higher, but
Trump wants it covered up.

World wide the number of infections is over 24,500,000 and over 831,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 30, 2020, 01:19:57 pm

65 Days to go, and Trump's republican party continues to push this country
toward Fascism. Think not? Fascism is a system of government run by one
man, a dictator. To accomplish this Trump and his party are working to
gain complete control of what is left of our democracy.

If he stays in the White house for another 4 years, he and his party will
work to put an end  to honest elections. Once done they will have control of
the legislature. A  control where they can give the president dictatorial power.
You might ask wouldn't the people stop this? This is why Trump supports
the far right and the vigilante groups they support. This is how Hitler
controlled those who  opposed him. He had groups going after Jews,
and others he didn't trust.

Trump's Fascist movement will do the same as they gain more power. He
would deny this, but over time with the  support of those who believe in
him will work to shift the nations thinking to accept Fascism, and Trump's
authoritarian control. By then it will be too late to  stop him.

Trump and his Fascist movement is racist, and will work to prevent any
gains of women, the LGBT, or minorities. As a dictator Trump can, and
will destroy the rights of Americans to benefit himself. His followers
may think Fascism would be a good think for the country, but in the end
many will wish otherwise.

A lot of people see Trump as a strong leader, but Trump is nothing but a
big mouth con artist. Trump claims he is for law and order, but it is nothing
more than a lie. Because over the last term in office he has refused  to obey
laws, and his oath of office.  The man is just an illusionist who spins lie
after lie to benefit himself.  People should tell Trump if he wants their support,
he must follow the law, and stop hiding the facts about his actions.  Sadly it
seems his followers are afraid to hear the truth about him. Instead they listen
to  the lies told by the conservative media.

Honest Americans should demand this, because they don't need Trump, any
moderate republican would be much better for the country.

Trump is wanting to have his big audience  rally's again, and only time will
tell wither it causes the spread of covid19, because Trump doesn't require
people at his rally's to be separate or wear masks.

Joe Biden doesn't want to put people at risk by having large rally's, but I am
sure Trump will claim Biden is weak by not having them.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,000,000 and deaths are over 182,000.
These numbers are likely too low as Trump wants the real numbers covered up, and less
testing. He really  wants people to ignore the virus, by saying it's not serious.

World wide the number of infections is over 24,800,000 and over 837,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 31, 2020, 01:13:47 pm

64 Days to go, and as schools along with colleges open, often they are
closing again due to high rates of infections. Not just kids, but staff and
teachers as well. With all this Trump continues pushing for schools to open.
Because he wants the parents back at work, and if people get sick, it's
just the way it is, and Trump doesn't care if people get sick or die, just as
long as it helps his chances to win in November.

Sadly many of our young people aren't taking this virus seriously enough,
and are socializing without using proper precautions. Turns out this is a
big cause of college infection rates. Colleges are trying to deal  with this,
but it's not easy, and will have to  return to virtual  teaching if infection
rates stay high.

With schools who teach the lower grades the big problem is seeing
that the kids keep separate, wear their masks, wash hands, and
other necessary precautions. While in school, going to school and
anytime they are moving about. This would be difficult for adults,
much  less kids who don't  listen much of the time, and hate to sit
still.
 
Unless the GOP controlled senate, and Trump agree to give assistance
to help people with rent.  We will soon have millions thrown out of their
homes into the street. Seems with the GOP there is always plenty of
money for big business, but with lower class individuals they claim they
have to  watch their spending.

Trump claims he is all about law enforcement, yet he wants to blame peaceful
protesters for damage done by outsiders. people who are likely supported
by the far right, and we know Trump supports anything done by the far right.
If Trump really cared about law enforcement he would go after outsiders, no
matter who supported them. I haven't heard a word from Trump about the
white young man who killed two black demonstrators in cold blood. So where is
Trump's outrage over a vigilante breaking the law. You can be sure if that had
been a black man, there would have been a dozen policemen hunting him down
like a wild animal. But a white vigilante had no such worry, especially with Trump.

I think we can expect Trump to play politics with a covid19 vaccine. I am reasonably
sure he will claim one is ready just before the November election. Because he figures
an announcement that due to his leadership, a vaccine is ready months sooner, will
give him a bump that will help him win over Biden. It won't matter that it will still take
months to distribute, or fails to work, because by then he has the win he desperately
wants.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,100,000 and deaths are over 183,000.
These numbers are likely higher, but Trump doesn't want people to know the facts.

World wide the number of infections is over 25,100,000 and over 842,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 01, 2020, 01:23:35 pm

63 Days to go, and it seems some people still think Trump is a  good business man. This
is sad, since Trump is anything but a good business man. I mean the man went  bankrupt
6 times. Trump doesn't take his work seriously. He likes to start things, but fails to follow
up with the needed work. Why? Because he likes to play to much, and worst of all he wants
to play at being president. We need someone that takes the job seriously, not someone
who just pretends to.

When asked about the vigilante who shot and killed two black men, Trump suggested it might
have been self defense. Trump continues his refusal to  condemn acts of white violence, or to
condemn excessive acts of violence by law enforcement. He wants to blame the left for the
violence committed by vigilantes, and those hired by the far right. So it's no wonder why  he
makes excuses for a young man misled by his and the far rights rhetoric.

Joe Biden asked the question, "Do you feel safe in Trumps America"? A good question
since violence has grown a lot since Trump became president. Remember during Trump's
campaign? When he told the crowd to beat up on anyone who demonstrated against him,
and he would see to their legal protection. Turned out that was a lie, but it shows his
willingness to promote violence, if it was to his benefit.

Trump doesn't care that his rhetoric causes some people to commit violence. To him it's
totally separate, as he doesn't seem to realize some people wish only to please  him, even
if they have to kill to do it. This is what makes Trump so dangerous to anyone he Trump
seriously complains about. His continual support of the far right and their ideals  only makes
things worse. I fear if Trump wins this November there will be a resurgence of the K K K.
It may even be growing now. Trump's father was a member, so it wouldn't surprise me if
Trump had sympathy for the clan.

Covid19 continues to kill over a thousand people a day across the country, but Trump
doesn't want to talk about it. In fact he wants people to forget about it. Because he
knows it is  politically disastrous for him to take any responsibility for the 180,000
plus deaths it has caused since January. Instead he was people to believe city
violence  is being caused by  democrats. Even though the republicans and he
are running the country, and have been  since 2016. It's just more of Trump's
finger pointing, because nothing is ever his fault.



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,100,000 and deaths are over 183,000.
Just an estimate as Trump wants the real numbers hidden.

World wide the number of infections is over 25,500,000 and over 850,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 01, 2020, 01:57:30 pm
I don't want to start a big argument but if you check the footage of Kyle Rittenhouse, then it is clear that the shootings were in a act of self defense. Also, I fail to understand how the voilence is Trump's fault when it was started by the left and fueled by the left media and leftist influentials.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Mister Initial Man on September 01, 2020, 02:57:46 pm
I'm equally concerned by who the Democratic candidate is.  Mr. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is almost as old as my father--the difference being at most two months.  From what I understand, Mr. Biden may be suffering the beginnings of dementia, though that perception of mine may be due to carefully selected clips (much like the perceptions of anyone who watches the news these days).

Who here knows who Ronna McDaniel is?  More of you may know who    Tom Perez is.  They are the chairpeople of the Republican and Democratic Parties, respectively; neither Trump nor Biden exactly control their own parties.

And Hans has brought up a good point, also I'd like to point out that the violence has been taking place in Democrat-run cities.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 01, 2020, 03:21:37 pm
I'm equally concerned by who the Democratic candidate is.  Mr. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is almost as old as my father--the difference being at most two months.  From what I understand, Mr. Biden may be suffering the beginnings of dementia, though that perception of mine may be due to carefully selected clips (much like the perceptions of anyone who watches the news these days).

Who here knows who Ronna McDaniel is?  More of you may know who    Tom Perez is.  They are the chairpeople of the Republican and Democratic Parties, respectively; neither Trump nor Biden exactly control their own parties.

And Hans has brought up a good point, also I'd like to point out that the violence has been taking place in Democrat-run cities.
Very true. Also I would like to mention that the Portland Courthouse belongs  to the US  Government, Not the Pprtland Municipality. When the mayor of Portland doesn't do anything to protect both the courthouse, and more importantly, his own residents, Then Trump has every right to send in federal officers. Also, it's important to mention that those who vandalise Federal property and, or/ incite violence are not protected by the constitution.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 02, 2020, 01:05:14 pm

If Trump obeyed the law himself, and didn't try to hide his health records, along with many
other things congress has a right to see I might look at him differently. But after over 20,000
misleading lies. racist history, and lack of concern for immigrants, minorities, and I still can't accept 
his lack of leadership for covid19 that has likely caused over 100,000 deaths. He has no business
being the leader of anything, much less a country.

This doesn't even include his narcissistic disire to be a monarch. So in my opinion Biden
is better than Trump, if for nothing else than his empathy for humanity. Something Trump
is unable to feel. Trump is a mental midget compared to Biden or Harris.
and if people put this poor excuse for a human being back in the White
house, heaven help us all. Especially minorities, and the handicapped. 

I think the only reason the GOP leadership stands with Trump is because he is their
best chance to hold the white house. So they can pack the judicial system with conservative
judges who work mainly for the super rich.

62 Days to go, and Trump apparently feels his only chance is to make the Democrats look like
idiots, who are under the control of the far left. I kind of doubt if he gets very far with this, as
most people who might believe this are already supporting him. Playing to his supporters is all
he apparently wants to do. He has started his rally's again. Only time will tell if covid19 comes
along to share the fun. Hopefully if it does, not to many people die because of Trump and his
desire to speak before a crowd.

We have to ask ourselves, why does Trump want to hide his health records? Why did he make
a quick trip to  the hospital a year or so ago? Why was the Vice president required to make an
emergency return to the white house with no  excuses given. Trump has had trouble speaking at
odd times,  and even some physical difficulties. 

Instead of giving a full report of his health to the public he has a white house doctor brag about
how amazing his health is. Then  turns around and wants people to believe is opponents health
is suspect, with mental issues.

With Trump it's always someone else at fault. He is always perfect. He hides the fact he paid
someone to take his  college entrance exam, and had his sister do his homework. I find it sad
that so many people still want this person to lead the country.  I suppose it's largely due to
the far right media who support him constantly, and were fooled with his TV show the
apprentice where he played the part of being a super smart business man. Even though this was only
a fantasy, apparently many people still believed it was true.

Trump's not the  first person to fool people with con jobs and won't be the last. As they say
a fool is born every minute, and apparently is mostly true.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,100,000 and deaths are over 184,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 25,800,000 and over 857,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 02, 2020, 01:14:05 pm

If Trump obeyed the law himself, and didn't try to hide his health records, along with many
other things congress has a right to see I might look at him differently. But after over 20,000
misleading lies. racist history, and lack of concern for immigrants, minorities, and I still can't accept 
his lack of leadership for covid19 that has likely caused over 100,000 deaths. He has no business
being the leader of anything, much less a country.

This doesn't even include his narcissistic disire to be a monarch. So in my opinion Biden
is better than Trump, if for nothing else than his empathy for humanity. Something Trump
is unable to feel. Trump is a mental midget compared to Biden or Harris.
and if people put this poor excuse for a human being back in the White
house, heaven help us all. Especially minorities, and the handicapped. 

I think the only reason the GOP leadership stands with Trump is because he is their
best chance to hold the white house. So they can pack the judicial system with conservative
judges who work mainly for the super rich.

62 Days to go, and Trump apparently feels his only chance is to make the Democrats look like
idiots, who are under the control of the far left. I kind of doubt if he gets very far with this, as
most people who might believe this are already supporting him. Playing to his supporters is all
he apparently wants to do. He has started his rally's again. Only time will tell if covid19 comes
along to share the fun. Hopefully if it does, not to many people die because of Trump and his
desire to speak before a crowd.

We have to ask ourselves, why does Trump want to hide his health records? Why did he make
a quick trip to  the hospital a year or so ago? Why was the Vice president required to make an
emergency return to the white house with no  excuses given. Trump has had trouble speaking at
odd times,  and even some physical difficulties. 

Instead of giving a full report of his health to the public he has a white house doctor brag about
how amazing his health is. Then  turns around and wants people to believe is opponents health
is suspect, with mental issues.

With Trump it's always someone else at fault. He is always perfect. He hides the fact he paid
someone to take his  college entrance exam, and had his sister do his homework. I find it sad
that so many people still want this person to lead the country.  I suppose it's largely due to
the far right media who support him constantly, and were fooled with his TV show the
apprentice where he played the part of being a super smart business man. Even though this was only
a fantasy, apparently many people still believed it was true.

Trump's not the  first person to fool people with con jobs and won't be the last. As they say
a fool is born every minute, and apparently is mostly true.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,100,000 and deaths are over 184,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 25,800,000 and over 857,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
So how exactly are the riots Trump's fault? What you said is not relevent to the mass destruction that the LEFT is inflicting on the country.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 02, 2020, 07:00:17 pm

So how exactly are the riots Trump's fault? What you said is not relevent to the mass destruction that the LEFT is inflicting on the country.

How do you know it's all the left's fault? Did you interview people? Did you take a poll? Do you have ESP or a crystal ball? How do you know? I think you're making a blanket statement there which isn't right. Just because a bunch of people protest, loot, burn things, etc., etc., etc. DOES NOT in any way, shape, or form mean they are all on the left. There can be just as many moderate or right leaning people that probably don't like Trump, police brutality, etc. and are protesting just as much as anybody on the left or middle has.

What I'm saying is this: Don't blame the entire political left for the protests and destruction that is going on. And don't stereotype all the protesters as being on the left only. People come in all walks of life and come from the ENTIRE political spectrum. Left, Moderate, and Right.

I don't like Trump.
I don't like his policies/actions.
I don't like excessive police brutality.
And I don't like the extreme far right.

After saying all that, does that make me a person on the Left? Not necessarily so. You don't know where my political allegiances lie. You don't know who I voted for in 2016 or even who I'll vote for in 2020. You don't know where I stand on various economic, political, social, etc. issues. For all you know, I could be someone in the middle (Moderate) of the political spectrum or I could be on the right. Or..........maybe I am on the left? You really don't know.

I really am getting tired of people being labeled as either Left or Right. Conservative or Liberal. Democrat or Republican in this country.
Your average ordinary citizen (Librarian, Taxi driver, Dentist, Construction worker, etc.) is none of those things.
The only people who deserve those political "titles" are the politicians themselves. Not the ordinary citizens.

The only "titles" that should be used to describe a person are: Individual, Citizen, Person, and most importantly........Human Being.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 03, 2020, 01:20:53 am

So how exactly are the riots Trump's fault? What you said is not relevent to the mass destruction that the LEFT is inflicting on the country.

How do you know it's all the left's fault? Did you interview people? Did you take a poll? Do you have ESP or a crystal ball? How do you know? I think you're making a blanket statement there which isn't right. Just because a bunch of people protest, loot, burn things, etc., etc., etc. DOES NOT in any way, shape, or form mean they are all on the left. There can be just as many moderate or right leaning people that probably don't like Trump, police brutality, etc. and are protesting just as much as anybody on the left or middle has.

What I'm saying is this: Don't blame the entire political left for the protests and destruction that is going on. And don't stereotype all the protesters as being on the left only. People come in all walks of life and come from the ENTIRE political spectrum. Left, Moderate, and Right.

I don't like Trump.
I don't like his policies/actions.
I don't like excessive police brutality.
And I don't like the extreme far right.

After saying all that, does that make me a person on the Left? Not necessarily so. You don't know where my political allegiances lie. You don't know who I voted for in 2016 or even who I'll vote for in 2020. You don't know where I stand on various economic, political, social, etc. issues. For all you know, I could be someone in the middle (Moderate) of the political spectrum or I could be on the right. Or..........maybe I am on the left? You really don't know.

I really am getting tired of people being labeled as either Left or Right. Conservative or Liberal. Democrat or Republican in this country.
Your average ordinary citizen (Librarian, Taxi driver, Dentist, Construction worker, etc.) is none of those things.
The only people who deserve those political "titles" are the politicians themselves. Not the ordinary citizens.

The only "titles" that should be used to describe a person are: Individual, Citizen, Person, and most importantly........Human Being.
I don't love Trump either and I'm not saying that all  people with left leaning veiws are doing this. I just don't understand how everything is Trump's fault.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 03, 2020, 01:06:23 pm

The reason I personally blame Trump for the destruction of property in the  cities, is his blanket
support of the far right. He shouldn't support either extreme, he should support proper law
enforcement, which is want the demonstrators are wanting. Trumps support of the far  right
encourages extremist to come out, no matter which side they are on. He does because he
see's his  support of them as his best chance for reelection, and he is for anything that
will help him  win, no matter who it hurts.  Trump took an oath to support the nations  laws
and the constitution, but has failed to do so from the beginning. Sadly the GOP has failed  to
hold him accountable,  fearing his supporters would kick them out of office.

61 Days left, and Trump wants to hide Russia's effort to convince the American public
Joe Biden is mentally unable to be president. Apparently even the Russian's find Biden
such a strong candidate they must attack his intelligence, and that of the people.

 As many assumed, Trump is pushing to make a vaccine available by November 1.
Never in our history has a president had the gall to force the CDC or the FDA
to approve a vaccine for political reasons. Trump doesn't care if the vaccine works,
or harms people. He just wants the few percentage points he feels he will get from
the early release of a covid19 vaccine. Because he knows once he wins, he will have
another 4 years in office, even if the vaccine kills more than it saves.

Trump apparently told supporters if they want to make sure their mail in vote counted,
was to try to vote again in person. Trump best hope his voters don't try this. Not only
will it kill their vote, they will end up in jail. So even if Trump tried to pardon them all, he
would lose their vote.

Trump claims he cares about the military, but when Russia puts a bounty on our
soldiers, he looks the other way.

Trump puts tariffs on China, hoping it will show he is putting pressure on China. The
trouble is, China says okay, and starts buying soybeans somewhere else, and many
American farmers with the loss of sales, go bankrupt.

Not all farmers though, Trump makes sure the large corporate farms receive
millions in tax dollars to make up for losses caused by his tariffs.

These tariffs in reality are illegal, but Trump with the help of the GOP puts them in
effect. Even though they hurt many small businesses, driving their foreign customers
to manufactures in other countries. Some American businesses even have to
move out of the country to survive.

When Trump first took office, he sent a special forces troop on a rescue mission.
The problem is, he didn't discuss this with mission experts, apparently wanting to
look good to his voters, and due to this a soldier lost his life, and a 75 million dollar
aircraft was lost as well. After all this the mission ended up as  a total failure.

Trump called covid19 a liberal hoax to begin with, then told state governors.  the
virus was their responsibility.  Trump and his rich friends apparently  then decided
they could make a lot of money providing personal protection items for the people.
I think this because Trump, instead of invoking a law that would require manufactures
to start producing these items, he allow big business to do it them selves. This of course
allowed them to make a big profit, by charging several times as much for the items than
their normal prices would be. Even to have bidding wars that drove  prices even higher.
Trump or his rich friends have no shame when it comes to money.

Schools continue trying to open, but in many cases they have to  return to virtual learning
due to infections from covid19. Trump is still wanting less testing, hoping this will hold the
numbers down. The bad thing is, less testing just allows the virus to spread more and more.

Trump and the GOP are encouraging doctors to not list covid19 as the cause of
death on death certificates.  This to reduce the real number of deaths caused by
the virus. They want the people to think the virus isn't as dangerous as it really is.
Just more evidence of how far Trump and the GOP will go to hold power.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,100,000 and deaths are over 185,000.
World wide the number of infections is over 25,800,000 and over 860,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on September 03, 2020, 05:10:14 pm

So how exactly are the riots Trump's fault? What you said is not relevent to the mass destruction that the LEFT is inflicting on the country.

How do you know it's all the left's fault? Did you interview people? Did you take a poll? Do you have ESP or a crystal ball? How do you know? I think you're making a blanket statement there which isn't right. Just because a bunch of people protest, loot, burn things, etc., etc., etc. DOES NOT in any way, shape, or form mean they are all on the left. There can be just as many moderate or right leaning people that probably don't like Trump, police brutality, etc. and are protesting just as much as anybody on the left or middle has.

What I'm saying is this: Don't blame the entire political left for the protests and destruction that is going on. And don't stereotype all the protesters as being on the left only. People come in all walks of life and come from the ENTIRE political spectrum. Left, Moderate, and Right.

I don't like Trump.
I don't like his policies/actions.
I don't like excessive police brutality.
And I don't like the extreme far right.

After saying all that, does that make me a person on the Left? Not necessarily so. You don't know where my political allegiances lie. You don't know who I voted for in 2016 or even who I'll vote for in 2020. You don't know where I stand on various economic, political, social, etc. issues. For all you know, I could be someone in the middle (Moderate) of the political spectrum or I could be on the right. Or..........maybe I am on the left? You really don't know.

I really am getting tired of people being labeled as either Left or Right. Conservative or Liberal. Democrat or Republican in this country.
Your average ordinary citizen (Librarian, Taxi driver, Dentist, Construction worker, etc.) is none of those things.
The only people who deserve those political "titles" are the politicians themselves. Not the ordinary citizens.

The only "titles" that should be used to describe a person are: Individual, Citizen, Person, and most importantly........Human Being.

You don't have to be left or right to disagree with Trump. He has done objectively bad things. He has done things that are undeniably wrong.
The republican party has become so afraid of being accused of flip-flopping or being indecisive that they can't even bring themselves to admit they put an incompetent no-brain in the office of the president. They seem terrified of changing their minds or admitting they were wrong because if you admit you're wrong then oh no everything you've done can be called into question.

Not to mention a lot of people with extreme views think that the office of the president is sacred and holy and we are never allowed to ever question what the president says. You know that if Obama had pulled the same stuff Trump has the GOP would be slanderizing him hourly.

Look, forget sides. Okay? How about we put a man in the white house who bankrupted four CASINOS! Do you know what a casino is? It's a place where people come in, give you all of their money and walk out. It's a place that makes money on its own. If you run it right a casino will run forever and always turn a profit and this chucklehead managed to make that fail FOUR TIMES. Four!

I wouldn't put this man in charge of managing a piggybank and yet the GOP put him in charge of a superpower with nuclear weapons at his command. A man who is so insecure he has to boast that he remembered five words like he's an grade schooler who got a perfect score on a test for the first time, and we let this guy run the nation?! Are you insane?

There's stuff I'm liberal about, there's stuff I'm conservative about. I believe in gun control, but I also believe in letting americans actually own guns to begin with. I believe we should tax the hell out of the super wealthy but I also don't think we need to throw ALL of the money at the poor because it'll just devalue the dollar. I believe the lower classes should get an increase in their wages and their earnings and I believe rent and water and gas and electricity should come down a bit, but I also don't think we need to make all those utilities free or mega cheap.

This isn't about sides or being a republican or a democrat or a whatever-the-heck-else-you-can-think-of-to-divide-people-into-groups. This about what is right and what is wrong and trump has done things that we all really should be acknowledging are wrong and not let him hide behind the office of president. 

Is everything bad his fault? I can't really say for sure but what I do know is that all of these things are all intricately woven together in the tapestry of this country, as president trump is not supposed to tell everyone exactly what to do, his job is to carefully steer our country like a ship. Subtle movements with long lasting effect. Give direction for others to follow and guide them away from actions which will hurt the country. Let the leaders lead and steer with confidence and the voyage will be sound.
Right now our captain is not just asleep at the wheel, he's taking naps at the wheel, going golfing on the party deck and the rest of his time is spent on the radio talking with other captains and asking them how to steer a ship without looking where he's going.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 03, 2020, 05:12:44 pm

The reason I personally blame Trump for the destruction of property in the  cities, is his blanket
support of the far right. He shouldn't support either extreme, he should support proper law
enforcement, which is want the demonstrators are wanting. Trumps support of the far  right
encourages extremist to come out, no matter which side they are on. He does because he
see's his  support of them as his best chance for reelection, and he is for anything that
will help him  win, no matter who it hurts.  Trump took an oath to support the nations  laws
and the constitution, but has failed to do so from the beginning. Sadly the GOP has failed  to
hold him accountable,  fearing his supporters would kick them out of office.

61 Days left, and Trump wants to hide Russia's effort to convince the American public
Joe Biden is mentally unable to be president. Apparently even the Russian's find Biden
such a strong candidate they must attack his intelligence, and that of the people.

 As many assumed, Trump is pushing to make a vaccine available by November 1.
Never in our history has a president had the gall to force the CDC or the FDA
to approve a vaccine for political reasons. Trump doesn't care if the vaccine works,
or harms people. He just wants the few percentage points he feels he will get from
the early release of a covid19 vaccine. Because he knows once he wins, he will have
another 4 years in office, even if the vaccine kills more than it saves.

Trump apparently told supporters if they want to make sure their mail in vote counted,
was to try to vote again in person. Trump best hope his voters don't try this. Not only
will it kill their vote, they will end up in jail. So even if Trump tried to pardon them all, he
would lose their vote.

Trump claims he cares about the military, but when Russia puts a bounty on our
soldiers, he looks the other way.

Trump puts tariffs on China, hoping it will show he is putting pressure on China. The
trouble is, China says okay, and starts buying soybeans somewhere else, and many
American farmers with the loss of sales, go bankrupt.

Not all farmers though, Trump makes sure the large corporate farms receive
millions in tax dollars to make up for losses caused by his tariffs.

These tariffs in reality are illegal, but Trump with the help of the GOP puts them in
effect. Even though they hurt many small businesses, driving their foreign customers
to manufactures in other countries. Some American businesses even have to
move out of the country to survive.

When Trump first took office, he sent a special forces troop on a rescue mission.
The problem is, he didn't discuss this with mission experts, apparently wanting to
look good to his voters, and due to this a soldier lost his life, and a 75 million dollar
aircraft was lost as well. After all this the mission ended up as  a total failure.

Trump called covid19 a liberal hoax to begin with, then told state governors.  the
virus was their responsibility.  Trump and his rich friends apparently  then decided
they could make a lot of money providing personal protection items for the people.
I think this because Trump, instead of invoking a law that would require manufactures
to start producing these items, he allow big business to do it them selves. This of course
allowed them to make a big profit, by charging several times as much for the items than
their normal prices would be. Even to have bidding wars that drove  prices even higher.
Trump or his rich friends have no shame when it comes to money.

Schools continue trying to open, but in many cases they have to  return to virtual learning
due to infections from covid19. Trump is still wanting less testing, hoping this will hold the
numbers down. The bad thing is, less testing just allows the virus to spread more and more.

Trump and the GOP are encouraging doctors to not list covid19 as the cause of
death on death certificates.  This to reduce the real number of deaths caused by
the virus. They want the people to think the virus isn't as dangerous as it really is.
Just more evidence of how far Trump and the GOP will go to hold power.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,100,000 and deaths are over 185,000.
World wide the number of infections is over 25,800,000 and over 860,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Could you please provide examples of Trump supporting the far  right?

Reagrdless, the behaviour we are seeing right now is in my opinion, unacceptable ibnevery way, shape, or form . I don't believe that these criminals are trying to help. If anything, they are hurting the black community. Support for Trump by the black community and other racial minorities has steadily been on the rise since the George Floyd incident. I suggest you refer to this video: https://youtu.be/a4sD9Ms38ns

You know, the silent majority on both the left and the right is sick of this. It's no coincidence that Trump's approval rating is rising. Biden only condemned the violence this week after 3 MONTHS of endless violence. Hariss joined in and on the very same tweet, blamed Trump for it. Don't you see the hypocrisy in this? The left loves to criticize Trump for blaming others for his shortcomings. That may be partially true, but before the left starts criticizing others, they need to take a good look at themselves. Biden and Hariss are influentials. If they, along with other leftist influentials and the leftist media condemned the violence when it just started, then maybe we would be in a better place now. But no, they wait 3 months and now they realize that this will affect them politically. Who will the democrats blame if they lose in november? I don't know, but they most definetely will not blame themeselves.

Also, BLM is a corrupt orginazation that is leveraging "racism" to put money in their corrupt leaders pocket. I am anti racist, but I will never support BLM.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 03, 2020, 05:15:21 pm
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 03, 2020, 05:50:13 pm
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 03, 2020, 06:38:23 pm

So how exactly are the riots Trump's fault? What you said is not relevent to the mass destruction that the LEFT is inflicting on the country.

How do you know it's all the left's fault? Did you interview people? Did you take a poll? Do you have ESP or a crystal ball? How do you know? I think you're making a blanket statement there which isn't right. Just because a bunch of people protest, loot, burn things, etc., etc., etc. DOES NOT in any way, shape, or form mean they are all on the left. There can be just as many moderate or right leaning people that probably don't like Trump, police brutality, etc. and are protesting just as much as anybody on the left or middle has.

What I'm saying is this: Don't blame the entire political left for the protests and destruction that is going on. And don't stereotype all the protesters as being on the left only. People come in all walks of life and come from the ENTIRE political spectrum. Left, Moderate, and Right.

I don't like Trump.
I don't like his policies/actions.
I don't like excessive police brutality.
And I don't like the extreme far right.

After saying all that, does that make me a person on the Left? Not necessarily so. You don't know where my political allegiances lie. You don't know who I voted for in 2016 or even who I'll vote for in 2020. You don't know where I stand on various economic, political, social, etc. issues. For all you know, I could be someone in the middle (Moderate) of the political spectrum or I could be on the right. Or..........maybe I am on the left? You really don't know.

I really am getting tired of people being labeled as either Left or Right. Conservative or Liberal. Democrat or Republican in this country.
Your average ordinary citizen (Librarian, Taxi driver, Dentist, Construction worker, etc.) is none of those things.
The only people who deserve those political "titles" are the politicians themselves. Not the ordinary citizens.

The only "titles" that should be used to describe a person are: Individual, Citizen, Person, and most importantly........Human Being.

You don't have to be left or right to disagree with Trump. He has done objectively bad things. He has done things that are undeniably wrong.
The republican party has become so afraid of being accused of flip-flopping or being indecisive that they can't even bring themselves to admit they put an incompetent no-brain in the office of the president. They seem terrified of changing their minds or admitting they were wrong because if you admit you're wrong then oh no everything you've done can be called into question.

Not to mention a lot of people with extreme views think that the office of the president is sacred and holy and we are never allowed to ever question what the president says. You know that if Obama had pulled the same stuff Trump has the GOP would be slanderizing him hourly.

Look, forget sides. Okay? How about we put a man in the white house who bankrupted four CASINOS! Do you know what a casino is? It's a place where people come in, give you all of their money and walk out. It's a place that makes money on its own. If you run it right a casino will run forever and always turn a profit and this chucklehead managed to make that fail FOUR TIMES. Four!

I wouldn't put this man in charge of managing a piggybank and yet the GOP put him in charge of a superpower with nuclear weapons at his command. A man who is so insecure he has to boast that he remembered five words like he's an grade schooler who got a perfect score on a test for the first time, and we let this guy run the nation?! Are you insane?

There's stuff I'm liberal about, there's stuff I'm conservative about. I believe in gun control, but I also believe in letting americans actually own guns to begin with. I believe we should tax the hell out of the super wealthy but I also don't think we need to throw ALL of the money at the poor because it'll just devalue the dollar. I believe the lower classes should get an increase in their wages and their earnings and I believe rent and water and gas and electricity should come down a bit, but I also don't think we need to make all those utilities free or mega cheap.

This isn't about sides or being a republican or a democrat or a whatever-the-heck-else-you-can-think-of-to-divide-people-into-groups. This about what is right and what is wrong and trump has done things that we all really should be acknowledging are wrong and not let him hide behind the office of president. 

Is everything bad his fault? I can't really say for sure but what I do know is that all of these things are all intricately woven together in the tapestry of this country, as president trump is not supposed to tell everyone exactly what to do, his job is to carefully steer our country like a ship. Subtle movements with long lasting effect. Give direction for others to follow and guide them away from actions which will hurt the country. Let the leaders lead and steer with confidence and the voyage will be sound.
Right now our captain is not just asleep at the wheel, he's taking naps at the wheel, going golfing on the party deck and the rest of his time is spent on the radio talking with other captains and asking them how to steer a ship without looking where he's going.
I agree that Trump is no saint but I do think he deserves more credit then you are giving him.
Anyways, it is true that Trump actions , or anybody for that matter may have an affect on events in the future. But to put complete responsobility on him is utterly ridiculous and is devoiding the left from any blame.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 03, 2020, 06:50:06 pm
Perhaps a mod should move this to the debate forum.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 04, 2020, 11:03:58 am
Perhaps a mod should move this to the debate forum.

Moving this to the debate forum would take the whole thread with it. I would suggest you start a thread
there instead. You could post a link there from here if you wished.

Old Rabbit.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 04, 2020, 01:48:00 pm

 60 Days left and it's reported our president privately considers the members of our military suckers
for serving our country. If they are killed they are losers.. His denials sound hollow, because in the
past he has called hero's of our military losers, especially if their  family happens to be Democrats
or supportive of them.

Trump considers anyone who isn't rich a loser, so it would not surprise me that he considers  military
service a job for suckers. Because you won't get rich serving our country. Money wise anyway.

-Some might think a president isn't totally responsible  for anything,
but a president has to be. Because most people look to them for
leadership.

One of Trump's worst habits is wanting to  believe conspiracy  theories, especially if
they make him look good. A  president should want the facts, not the ravings of idiots.

By playing to the worst of this country, Trump places himself at their level. A president
must reach out to the best of the country, and by example improve us all. Trump's example
drags the country down, not up.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,

The number of infections in the U S is over 6,100,000 and deaths are over 186,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 26,500,000 and over 886,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 05, 2020, 01:13:35 pm

59 Days to go, and Trump, a man who has no idea what it means to offer service to anyone wants to
be elected for another term as president. His first term as president showed how little he understand
what it takes to be a good president. Trump doesn't believe in public service, he wants to  be paid, and
thinks anyone who does is a loser, or a sucker.

This is one big reason why Trump isn't qualified to be president. A president above all must be
willing to sacrifice everything. Trump is  just the reverse, he thinks he deserves every dime he
has gained by being president, and see's his supporters as fools for believing in him. He will continue
to use them as long as it's to his benefit. They might think he is for  them and the country, but when
he is finished,  he will turn his back on them and the nation.

,Trump brags about not accepting his salary, but makes sure when he travels, he stays at his own
resorts. There he charges tax payers tens of thousands in fees for the stay. A president isn't supposed
to use the office to make money as Trump has. Trump see's the job as a manager of a large corporation
where he can pay himself and  anyone else he wants, including his family, even for make believe jobs.

I get the feeling his supporters feel all those in government are crooks, so why worry about Trump.
While several in government are crooked, we should try to eliminate them. Not accept them, just
because they do a few things we like.

Trump claims the  government shouldn't give aid to cities and states  run by Democrats.
As it turns out many states run  by Democrats send more money to the federal government
than they ever receive, and many run by the GOP get more money than they ever send in.

The GOP to be a party by and for the business man, do a terrible job running the country.. Mainly
because they cut taxes too much, and by eliminating regulations many businesses cost the
government millions, because of having to do jobs over, and over.

Trump continues to deny calling soldiers who gave their lives losers and suckers, and brags
about all he has done for the U S military and veterans.   He bragged about  raising a million
dollars for veterans, but failed to mention he had to  be shamed into giving them the money.
Trump claims he goes to VA hospitals, but in most cases he is just there for photos of him in
a hallway, or talking to a nurse or doctor.  Trump even had the gall to use money meant for
military schools and other needs  to spend on his wall with Mexico. A wall he claimed Mexico
would pay for. Just another of his many lies.

This holiday weekend will likely spread covid19 into  many more areas, because a  lot of people  refuse
to wear masks and stay separate.  Also many will go to bars and nightclubs where the air will be filled
with the virus in many cases. Trump continues to claim covid19 isn't anything to be concerned about.
So why, one might ask does he have everyone tested who comes near him.



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,200,000 and deaths are over 187,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 26,200,000 and over 868,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 06, 2020, 01:15:03 pm

58 Days left, and early voting is starting in some states. Make sure your registered now if you
plan to vote. Some states will take you off the rolls if you fail to vote a time or two, and some
GOP controlled areas remove names just for the purpose of keeping people of color from voting.

People should be prepared to walk past uniformed police at polling locations. Also we should
expect to see federal police in camouflaged attire  Because Trump and the GOP hope to
intimidate anyone who might fear the police. Especially people of color, and naturalized
immigrants.  The republican party was punished for this in the past, but we can expect
them to try it again, especially with a conservative majority on the supreme court.

It might sound weird, but the president of Russia is likely more of a patriot than Trump is.
Putin really wants to make Russia strong again, while Trump is only interested in adding to
his riches and staying in the White House. Even though he claims he wants to make America
Great, his time in office has shown this to be a lie. 

Trump and his cronies are working hard to limit the damage done to  Trump over his disgusting
comments about those who have given their lives for our country. Not counting how he has run
down military hero's who made sacrifices for the nation. Many people have lost family to wars,
and many more have become seriously handicapped for life, doing their duty for the country.

Trump has no right to call anyone a loser, if not for his father he would likely be one himself.
His father kept him out of the military during the Vietnam war. While tens of thousands were
drafted and died, becoming losers  to hear Trump talk.

Trump claims he has done more for the military, and veterans than any other president.
 This of course is a lie. Yes he did increase the budget for the military, but took money back
to help pay for his stupid wall. If he thinks so much about the vets, why  doesn't he want
those who come back  handicapped to be in a parade?   Trump expects the military to back
him if he claims the election was stolen  from him.   Top people in the military  haven't
shown Trump the loyalty he wants. It's military support  authoritarian  dictators  depend
on to hold power, and  Trump knows this.  I am sure Russia's president has told Trump
what  he  needs to hold power, and I doubt if the military  is ready to help Trump break
the constitution. Given another 4 years Trump just might pull it off.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,200,000 and deaths are over 188,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 26,700,000 and over 875,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 07, 2020, 01:02:34 pm

57 Days to go, and Trump continues his denials that he called U S soldiers  suckers and
 losers. Even though he at one of his campaign  rally's called  military  hero's losers, because
they had been captured.

Trump's attorney general Barr continues  to lie and mislead the American public to benefit Trump.
Barr believes he must protect  the  president from all accusations. Because in his mind the president
should  be treated like a King.  This misconception by Barr gives Trump protection that allows him to
abuse the powers of the presidency. Trump is smart enough to understand the value of a man like Barr
and will continue to use him if reelected, 

If the GOP cared about our democratic system of government. They would not only impeach and remove
Trump, they would impeach and remove Barr as well. But No, they will do anything to keep the presidency
for the GOP. So they can fill the federal courts with conservative  judges. Judges that will support big Business
at the expense of us all.

Hopefully if Trump retains the White House, the GOP will lose the senate. That way Trump will be limited, and
perhaps can be led to be a better president. If not perhaps kept from doing more harm to the country, and
the people.

Trump wanted to do away with the soldiers newspaper, the Stars and Stripes, but with the reports about
his lack of respect for fallen soldiers, Trump backed down. Apparently fearing this would hurt him even
more. Well you can be sure if he is reelected, that famous paper will be gone. Because Trump doesn't
want any news outlet that he can't control. When Fox News told it's audience that Trump did call U S
soldiers suckers and losers. Trump wanted  them to fire the newsman to spoke against him.

Trump is using campaign funds to sue people he fired who are speaking out against him. This may not
be illegal, but I really doubt those who gave money wanted it used to help Trump punish those who
weren't loyal to him. So far Trump has spent millions this way. Just more proof Trump doesn't even
care for those who support him.

I fear if Trump feels he will lose, he will start a war. Probably with Iran. Expecting the public
won't replace a president during wartime. Because Trump will do anything to  win, even if
it gets a lot of people ,killed. 



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,300,000 and deaths are over 189,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 26,900,000 and over 879,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 08, 2020, 01:38:29 pm

56 Days to go, and  even though schools and colleges are trying to open, often they end
up closing again due to covid19 infections. While in other countries many schools are opening
with few problems, here in the U S, Trumps lack of leadership is keeping them closed.

Trump is afraid to take responsibility, so 50 state governors  with 50 different  ideas are
working to protect the public, and schools. Sadly GOP governors trying to please Trump
are having more trouble  with the virus. Because like Trump they want to ignore the
pandemic, instead of  requiring the public to do what is needed to control the virus. Yes
many people have it in their heads the virus is a hoax, and would complain if they were
told to  do what is needed. This is largely Trump's fault, because he won't stand up and tell
Americans they must wear masks, and stay out of crowded places.

Now Trump is claiming there will be a  vaccine before November. Since this is obviously  a
political  gambit, many people won't want to take a vaccine touted by Trump to be a wonder
drug. If Trump really cared he would delay any release till after the election, to  show it's not
politically driven. But as I have said for years, Trump  only cares about himself. 

Moscow Mitch, the leader of the GOP controlled senate is now claiming it's time  to pass a bill
to aid the public. I have a good idea he has no plan to provide the aid that is really needed  by
cities, schools, and states. Much less the working public. The Democratically controlled house passed
a bill last May for this purpose, but Moscow Mitch decided it was time to wait and see. In the mean
time millions of people have stood in lines waiting to get food for their families. With many looking
to be kicked out of their homes, because they can't pay the rent or a mortgage.

Though the Democrats will attempt to work with the GOP to pass a bill that provides the needed
money, It's likely the GOP will complain and not approve enough  funds. Because they never like
to give money to people they call lazy, and Trump calls losers.  Trump doesn't want to give money
to any city or state controlled by Democrats either.

It seems many people feel Trump may win, but it's all about people voting , People expected
H Clinton to win in 2016, but a low turnout gave the win to Trump. If Trump supporters
get the idea Trump is going to win, they just might decide they don't need to  vote.  If
turnout for Democrats continue to be high as they have since 2016, Trump and
many GOP politicians  may be looking for a new job this November. Not that Trump
ever had a job in his life, much less worked.

Trump is trying to claim the Democrats are lying, strange from a man who has told over 20,000  lies  since
taking office. I suppose   those who want to see him sit on his fat bottom for another 4 years, will want
to believe his nonsense.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,300,000 and deaths are over 190,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 27,400,000 and over 892,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 09, 2020, 01:19:17 pm

55 Days left, and Trump is pulling about half the Troops from Iraq,. We know this is a political
move, but is it a wise move?  It seems to me any withdrawal needs to be a slower process than
this, especially in a region where our troops are still being attacked. But as we have heard, Trump
considers  most soldiers suckers, and losers.

Reports say Trump is doing little to prepare for the first presidential  debate, thinking Biden will be
an easy man to beat. Apparently because Trump thinks Biden is mentally unable to win. This is likely
a mistake by Trump, but as usual Trump will claim a victory no matter how it comes out.  Perhaps
even believing it himself. 

Many of Trump's supporters see Trump as doing a good job for the economy, yet  we are having
big deficits with Mexico, and China. Also thousands of people are losing jobs to other countries.
Even though when Trump ran for office, he claimed jobs would be brought back. Heck he even
has his campaign items like hats, made in the far east. Because he doesn't want to pay American
workers a fair wage to make them.

The U S attorney general Barr has decided to defend Trump in court  from  an accusation of rape. In
 effect claiming  the tax payer is supposed to defend the president for a personal civil action.  Possibly
of his  own doing. Because  Trump doesn't want to  spend any of his own money to defend himself.
 
There is audio evidence  that Trump knew how dangerous  covid19 was in late January of this year.  Yet
at the time he was playing it down to the American public. All because he feared it would cause a panic
in the  stock market an damage his precious  economy. In his mind A stepping stone to  his reelection.
The lives of the American public was his last concern.




For those who would like to read  Bob Woodwords latest Book about president Trump, or
other presidents  Click on the link below. This national acclaimed  reporter tells
of direct interviews of Trump in his latest book. You can read about Trump's conversations 
related to covid19, and what Trump thinks about authoritarian leaders around the world.
You will have to purchase the book to get the text. the link  is for google, but I am sure
Amazon  has the books as well.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Bob+woodward&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk02qeEXx8K1hqI_zw6aIAHi8stT-Mg:1599668384447&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi7t8COvdzrAhVBG80KHTCLDCUQ_AUoAnoECCIQBA&biw=1414&bih=668


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,400,000 and deaths are over 191,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 27,700,000 and over 897,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 11, 2020, 12:34:52 pm
Today marks 19 years since the attack on our nation by terrorists. Destroying
the twin towers in New  York city, and the surrounding buildings. Killing over 3000
people directly, and many of those first respondents then and since. Caused by the
dust and injury in their attempt to rescue any survivors they could find.


Trump was out making speeches with a somber tone, but sadly with little emotion. 
Tragically he isn't capable of empathy, so his only emotions are of happiness, hate and
 discuss. It was good to   see he appeared to avoid being political. I give him credit for that.

It's not a time for politics, but a time to stand together.  So today I will only say let us
pray  for peace and an end to covid19.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 12, 2020, 01:43:45 pm
This post is rather long because I missed a couple days.

52 Days left, and apparently Trump's supporters are still wanting to hang on to a man
who is more like a vicious animal wanting to kill every truth that he can get his  teeth
 around. They don't seem to care, but one day this individual will come after them as
well.  Then it will be too late, because he will have the power to shut down anyone
who gets in his way. To kill, or imprison people just as other Dictators do around the
world. Our only hope is to remove him now while we can, with our votes. The GOP
is too scared to do the job themselves.

If Trump would tell the truth, and do the job he was elected to do. We could over look
much of his money grubbing and corruption. He just doesn't understand how to do the
job of  president. He seems to think the country can be run like a business. Unlike a
business  where a CEO has full control, and even majority ownership. A president
must share  the power with the legislature, and the judicial system. Hiding everything
and forcing  staff to do his bidding is extremely limited by law. This would be acceptable
in a  corporation, but not by the president of the United States.

In the beginning, we could over look Trumps mistakes, considering he would still be
learning how to do the job. But by now he has no excuse, and should be held
responsible for all he does. Yes, I am sure many of his supporters like how he
attacks others, and policies they don't like. The GOP has given up it's response ability,
fearing Trump's attacks as well. People should hold Trump accountable, and replace
him with the plan to put a better person up for election in 2024. No one person is worth
the destruction of our democracy. You may not approve of policies put forward by the
Democrats, but at least they aren't attacking our federal system of government as
Trump is doing.

Some claim they support Trump because he attacks the elite in our government. The
Trouble with this is Trump is an elitist himself. Just because he acts like the common
man at his rally's, it's nothing but a show. Trump considers himself better than most
people that show up at his rally's. Even before he was president, the only people that
could get physically close to him, were investigated first. He never went anywhere
without a body guard, and had nothing to do with the common man. To him, you have
to be very rich, or your just another loser.

Trump is still leading his followers to believe a vaccine will be available  before
election day. If one is, it may or may not be safe, or as effective as we can expect
Trump to claim it to be. Because Trump hopes this will help him win, not to protect the
American public.

Some of Trump's  followers are planning a mask burn on September 15. 
All they will accomplish is the spread of covid19 by ignoring the use of masks to protect
each other, and their families.  Trump should denounce this, but he doesn't care if
they get sick, just as long as they vote for him.

Trump spends more time watching cable news programs than any other president.
Programs that no president should watch for the purpose of learning facts needed for
the proper running of a nation. Yet Trump watches mainly conservative news
programs that in many cases are designed to feed his ego, and to mislead his 
followers. Not for the good of the American public, but for the good of the far right, and
it's rich supporters.

Attorney general Barr appears to be pushing to finish investigations, designed to harm
the election chances for the Democrats. Apparently because Trump hopes it will help
him win. Ever since Barr was appointed to the justice department he has worked
for the benefit of Trump. Using lies and misleading statements to help Trump and his
cronies.  No attorney general should be at the command of any president, much less
Trump. Barr believes a president should be treated like a king  with no oversight at
all. He never should have been appointed in the first place, but the GOP wanting to
please Trump voted to give Barr the job.

Trump claims he didn't want to cause a panic by telling the American people the
truth about covid19.  Yet Trump has done his best to scare the public ever since he
took office. With claimed immigrants will kill people, and those in the Black Lives
Matter movement  will loot and burn down our cities if he loses the election. This and
telling the public that Moslem's are here to commit terrorism, while white Americans
 gun down dozens across the nation. So his anti panic excuse is nothing but a
lie and a sham trying to cover up his real  reason for misleading the public
about the virus. Worrying more about his reelection than the lives of the 
American people.

People  should realize  Trump's promise  to take us back to the good old days of the mid 1950's
is nothing but a play to romanticize a time many older Americans  want to remember  as being
great. Well for many middle class white men it was a good time, but for women, people of color
and homosexuals. It was a time they would like to forget. Because of the way they were treated.
Women like property, people of color like second class citizens, and homosexuals  faced jail, Trump
has no plan to do anything, but make himself
great, not the nation.




People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,400,000 and deaths are over 193,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 28,200,000 and over 910,000 deaths.

It appears the number of infections and deaths
around the world is accelerating. Trump is  doing
all he can to convince people here it's ending while
it's actually growing and spreading instead.

Sadly many of Trump's supporters still want to believe the virus is a hoax.
At least till it puts them or a family member in a hospital close to death.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 13, 2020, 01:28:53 pm

51 Days to go, and  Trump continues his cry that only he can maintain law and order. One might ask if he is
so very good at law and order, why isn't he working to stem violence now. He just shows how ignorance he
is by trying to use violence to stop violence. This only creates more hate, and  resistance to authority. It might
slow it at first, But the only way to contain it is by dealing with the issues that cause it.

This upcoming election is more about White Supremacy defeating social diversity than just defeating
president Trump. Trump and the GOP are working hard to keep people of color from voting, because
they see a big vote by non whites will cost them not only the white house, but the senate as well.

Trump is going to Washington state, and Oregon where he plans to show how much  he cares. During
his last rally he laid blame to those states for not having good forest management. Well the country can
lay blame on Trump for his bad management of covid19, which is a lot worse.

Trump claims there would have been millions of dead if it had not
been for his work to slow the virus. This is interesting as all around
the world there is less than a million dead. I really don't think Trump
had anything to do with controlling covid19 else where. The world is
fortunate he hasn't, or there would have been many more deaths.

Now Trump wants to ignore the virus, while over a thousand die each
day, with a total approaching  200,000 dead in this country.


The GOP  has for years wanted to avoid dealing with the environment, and now join by Trump who over
his term in office, has caused even more damage to air and water across the nation. Trump has opened
up  pristine lands, and forests to mining and lumbering. This has and will cause damage to
wild life and river ways.  Not only this he has opened coastal waters to oil exploration. Interestingly
enough he excluded Florida's coasts. So other coastal states should ask him why.

People should remember the GOP, and Trump only concern themselves   with big business. Now
this  alone isn't bad, but they want to forget about the needs of non business  people, or even
small businesses needs. They talk about making jobs, but never mention wages, or benefits for
workers. They want to eliminate the minimum wage, or anything that limits profits for businesses.
Also all social programs. They feel social issues should be state or local concerns, Not for the
federal government. This may sound good, but putting social issues on states and cities  alone,
would  put people in small states and cities  at an disadvantage. Spreading the costs across the
nation gives equal help to everyone.  Something the GOP leadership cares little about. They
say let charities care for the poor and the needy. Sure turn them  into beggars, and street
urchins it would seem. Just more shortsighted  reactions by the rich GOP leadership. 
 Cities filled with beggars only creates more crime, and health problems for everyone.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,

If you plan to vote by mail, be sure to vote as early as possible, because  Trump's new postmaster
general is under orders  to slow mail delivery. With the hope it will prevent absent T voting by mail.
This is interesting as the GOP has been pushing to increase voting by mail for years.


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,500,000 and deaths are over 194,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 28,500,000 and over 915,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 14, 2020, 01:05:42 pm

50 days to go, and if Trump had been smart enough to use leadership at the start
of this pandemic instead of hiding behind GOP governors, he could have been
walking toward a fairly easy win.  Because foreign countries who did use proper controls
are  doing well along with improving economy.  Even with a much more normal
life at this time.  But no, Trump was afraid to do what was right, so now all he can do
is lie and do what he can to mislead the American public. Then cheat all he can with
hopes of winning. Even to claim he can only lose if the Democrats rig the election
against him.  He made this claim in 2016 just before the election he won.  So why
didn't he lose if the election was rigged as he claimed?  It's because he lied.

Trump claimed the forests in the west wouldn't be on fire if they were properly managed.
Perhaps someone should remind him that these fires are mostly in federally managed
forests. In fact most all large forests are federal,  and not state owned, and it is due
to not having controlled burns that have allowed so much under brush to build up over
the years. If allowed small fires will prevent large destructive forest fires, but many
people want no fires at all, which is a big mistake.

It seems most of Trumps followers only want to believe the word of Trump. I can
understand why they voted for him in 2016. Because the GOP and Trump had
managed to convince voters the choice was between two equally bad people. Then
deciding to choose someone new, and believing a man who is very good at being a
con artist. They fell into his trap. Just as many people before fell for his lies, which
cost them their life savings, or lost their businesses because Trump cheated them out
of money he owed  them.

In fact right after he won, paid a 25 million dollar settlement  to people he had
cheated with a fake university. Trump calls the main stream media  fake,  trying to
cover up his lies.  He stands in front of his rally crowds playing them for suckers.
Sadly they fail to see through his smooth manipulations. He is a master salesman
who has full knowledge of how to con the average person out of their last dime.

He makes his rally's private meetings, so he can have anyone who is smart enough to
see him for what he is, thrown out.  The last thing he wants to do is talk with his
audience.  Because he would lose control trying to debate smart people. By only
talking to the audience he can play the crowd into a frenzy. Repeating phrases that
give him the best response.  Making promises he knows they want to hear.  So by
the time the rally is over people would carry him on their shoulders if he let them.

He has missed these big rally's, but covid19 has kept him from having them for several
months.  Now he is attempting to have them again. I imagine he will find a good
excuse to stop if and when dozens of his followers find themselves very sick.
Especially if fewer people show up. The last thing he wants is for people to see him
standing in front of empty seats.

The sad thing is, if Trump would use his talents for the good of the country, instead of
for himself, he could have been a good president. But no, it's all about him, and if given
the chance he will remain president till he wants to leave, and by then this country
will be in terrible condition. Because he and his rich friends care nothing for our
environment. We will have smokey skies, and filthy rivers. Cities filled with disease
and crime.  While the rich live in protected areas.  Minorities will be restricted just like
the old apart i system was in South Africa.

People like Trump have no understanding  of what it's like to be poor. Or to be
treated like second class citizens. No idea what it's like to not have a place to
sleep or to go hungry. This is one of many reasons why the super rich should
never be president. The best people for the job are people who have seen
the world for what it is. Soldiers have made some of our best presidents.
Because they have seen pain, hunger, and despair.

Covid19 continues to sicken and kill, while Trump claims it's nothing to worry about.
He wants to  hide this virus, to keep people from thinking about it. Because he knows
he made a big mistake by ignoring it's danger, and has no idea how to fix it or the
damage to the economy it caused.



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,

Remember to vote early if you plan to vote by mail, because the GOP and Trump
are trying to keep your votes from counting by slowing the U S mail.


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,500,000 and deaths are over 195,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 28,800,000 and over 920,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 15, 2020, 01:33:48 pm

49 Days to go, and  Trump had a indoor rally, in spite of the Arizona governors attempt
to prevent it. So those  supporters of Trump who showed up, have put themselves, family,
and friends at risk  just because they wanted to listen to Trump and his lies.  Yes I  support
Biden, but I wouldn't cross the street to  see or hear him, much less risk getting sick. I never
could understand why people go to a rally, just to hear some politician blow a lot of
hot air.  When they could watch them online or TV.
 
Every time I see a politician on TV, and refuses to answer reasonable questions.  They
lose all credibility with me. Especially when they try to out talk the person interviewing
them instead.

Also any time a politician or his party attempt to limit voting, they not only should lose,
they don't deserve to hold any political office.  In fact if a political party's policies  can't
attract enough votes to win, they need to  come up with new policies, if they really do
want to win. When people cheat to win, it generally means they only care about
them selves.

It always amazes me to see how close the two major  parties continue to have
support. You would think one party or the other would be much more popular
than the other. It seems the public actually try to keep them fairly even. This
is generally a good idea since single party control is a really bad idea. Something
the GOP need to keep in mind because it destroyed a party early in the countries
history. With single party control radical policies often become law, and this can
cause the public to rise up against the ruling party.

Trump and the GOP want people to believe the socialism wanted by the Democrats
will destroy free enterprise, and capitalism. Especially those people who have lived in
socialist countries. All the Democrats want is to prevent hunger, and sickness by
increasing taxes on the top 5% of the richest Americans. Taxes that would do little
to affect their lifestyle if at all. The very rich have way more money than anyone
would ever need, even for a lavish lifestyle. So why not make them pay their fair
share. After all they use the countries infrastructure to build their wealth, and depend
on the military, and police to protect it.

Trump is happy to have the Russians help him with his reelection. He wants to win, and
does not care how. He will lie, cheat, and do his best to steal this coming election. Then
if he loses, he will try to claim it was stolen from him. Trump is a man who has spent his
life getting what he wants, any way he can, and winning this election is no different.

Trump is pointing to a peace deal in the middle east. A deal that will take months to work
out. Yet Trump wants the public to believe it's going to bring the Arabs  and Israel together.
This has been tried in the past, but the country of Israel isn't likely to ever get along with
the Arab community.  After all Palestinians aren't likely to ever accept Jews on their land,
no matter what Trump claims. I could be wrong, but I think this is part of a deal to help
Trump more than anything else.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,500,000 and deaths are over 195,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 29,300,000 and over 929,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 16, 2020, 01:37:02 pm

48 Days left, and Trump continues to claim a vaccine will be ready in late October. This is obviously
a political plan of his. If people are wise, they will listen to medical doctors, and not a man who just
wants to  be reelected. So we can't really believe anyone tied to  the Trump administration, like the
FDA or the CDC.

Medical science tells us an effective vaccine isn't likely to be available till sometime next year.
No matter what big mouth Trump claims. Any vaccine approved for October isn't likely to be
safe or very effective. The best thing to do is wear a mask, keep separate, and wash your
hands till science makes a good vaccine available.

Trump is even trying to  deny his own statements that were recorded. Of course his cult members
are bound to believe him, Even if he claimed a sunny day was the middle of the night.

When asked, Trump would not give any information about a health plan he claims to have. He claims
his plan will cover those with preexisting health condition, Well that is good, but we need to know if
people can afford the premiums. Because reports say they could be as high as a hundred thousand
dollars a month. If this is the case, coverage at those costs would be useless
to almost everyone.

The only thing I have ever heard Trump say about how he would  lower health insurance  costs was
to allow competition between insurance companies  across the nation. Nothing at all about coverage
for preexisting conditions. You can be sure insurance companies won't give coverage at a loss. They
will want government subsidies to cover preexisting conditions. Otherwise the premiums will be too
expensive for almost everyone.

Trump claimed he likes all races of people. Now isn't that interesting as he has run down
black people, latin Americans, and Moslem's.  Not only that he hires foreigners so he can
get by with paying them low wages, without benefits.

Trump implied  Joe Biden  is a pedafile by retweeting a tweet, Trump may find himself with  problems
 here, because it has been reported Trump was involved with a 13 year old girl once. So I really don't
think he would want people reminded of it. So he best watch his dirty lies. As there is no evidence that
 Biden has ever done such a thing, or ever would.


 

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,600,000 and deaths are over 196,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 29,600,000 and over 936,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 17, 2020, 01:14:41 pm

47 Days left, and Trump is getting so rattled he can't keep his facts straight. Collin herd immunity 
herd mentality instead. It seems to me if anyone is mentally deficient it's Trump, not Biden. Trump
and his attorney general both, seem to be losing control. People who know attorney general Barr
say he is doing things that is harming the department of justice. Even causing good people who
have worked there for years to resign. Not for political reasons, but because he isn't doing the
job properly.

Barr has always felt authoritarian control was the best, but not the way he is supporting it with
Trump. We can only wonder why so many people are corrupted when they start working for
Trump. Is it due to threats, offer of power or money? Hopefully one day we will learn the truth.

I have a hunch that Trump, after becoming president, has become power hungry with visions of
god hood in his head. People often grow to think they are indispensable when they gain power.
Thinking only they can fill the job. In Trump's case, it's thinking only he can properly run the
country.  He has already claimed the country would fall apart if he lost. This could just be a
ploy to get votes, ore may actually believe it himself.

Trump is opposing the claims by the leader of the CDC that a viable vaccine won't be available
till next year. Acting like he, Trump knows more than professionals of medicine. Unfortunately
his supporters will believe him over medical science. Many of them still believe Trump's claim
the virus is a hoax. Trump is now claiming only areas which are under control by Democrats
are claiming virus infections. This is a lie, because several states and cities controlled by the
GOP are suffering the most from covid19.

Tens of thousands are dying due to  Trump and Barr's  lack of responsibility. The worst
part about this is they don't care. Especially if the dead are Democrats. When in history
has leaders of a democracy approved the deaths of political opponents?  Yes Trump and
others of the GOP leadership say the words that they care, but their actions say NO.

These actions would be expected in Russia, China, or North Korea, but not in the United States.
If we keep Trump and his corrupt officials, Hundreds of thousands of Americans will suffer under
their control, and by 2024 the country will be one of violence to the extreme, and a environment 
killing thousands due to it's filth caused by industry out of control.

Trump claims he wants to  return us to the great days of the past. Well  by the late 1960's Pollution
was ramp it with poisons leeching from trash dumps. Making ground water unsafe to drink. Industrial
wastes were being dumped into rivers causing some to catch fire. Only regulations  that the rich hated
put an end to this. Trump and the GOP want to  put an end to the very regulations that helped clean our
environment. Just to  please  big corporations so the rich can get richer. I fear we are going to repeat the
mistakes of the past just for the benefit of the super rich.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,600,000 and deaths are over 196,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 29,900,000 and over 942,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 18, 2020, 12:42:53 pm

46 Days left, and Trump continues to act like he knows more about
covid19 than medical doctors.  Claiming Masks do little to protect
people from the virus. All of Trumps nonsense is him trying to gain
votes. He could care less if people live or die as long as they vote for
him. He has decided that he  likes the virus because it gives him a
good excuse  to not shake hands with discussing people at his rally's.
The very people he expects to vote for him.

 People who go to  his rally's are putting their health at risk, wither they
want to believe it or not, and Trump could care less as long as they show
up and cheer. People sand and cheer a man who has literally caused the
deaths of over a hundred thousand people because he refused to do his
job, fearing doing  so would cost him reelection.

Even if a vaccine is available before the election, it won't be due to anything
Trump has done. All he has done is  hand out a lot of tax money to drug
companies who have likely given him a pile of money. He even gave a
lot of money to a company that had no experience developing drugs, much
less a vaccine, and they haven't anything ready yet. Likely was just Trump
giving a favor for their support.

Somehow I doubt even if a vaccine is approved before the November election,
Trump won't see any real gain from it. Because most everyone but his
supporters  will distrust it due to Trump making it so political. 

As the election draws near Trump is starting to promise everything but
a chicken in every pot. People should remember last time after the election
Trump used the excuse when asked about his promises.  Said those
were just campaign promises he didn't really need to fill, and I am sure
he considers promises he is making now to be the same.

Trump is claiming the Democrats are out to take your guns. Well the only guns
the Democrats have in mind are the military style weapons that can hold high
capacity  magazines.  Weapons no civilian really needs. There are several rifles
that can be magazine loaded, so if people feel they need more fire power those
will still be available.

Trump is doing all he can to convince  his followers they are under attack by
the left. Though this is a lie, Trump feels division will bring more of his followers
out to vote. Well it also will bring more Democrats out to vote as well. I am sure
he still remembers the huge crowds in Washington DC that showed up the day
after he took office. Not to support him, but in opposition to him. I am sure this
upset him, because above all, Trump not only desires praise he expects it.

With just over a month till the election, Trump is  claiming the early voting is
fraudulent because his polls show him losing, and a loss could mean prison for
him and some of his cronies. This is why his Attorney general is out trying to
help Trump win. Because he knows with Trump out, he is as well.

Every time someone brings up the fact that Russia is trying to help Trump win, he
comes back asking how about China? Well Trump knows China isn't helping him,
so as usual he is against anyone who isn't helping. If Trump was a true patriot he
would punish any country trying to affect our elections, but no, Trump doesn't care
how, just as long as he wins.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,700,000 and deaths are over 197,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 30,000,000 and over 945,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 18, 2020, 04:32:43 pm
VOTE!

Get out and vote, folks! Make your vote count!

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/politics/voting-questions-answers/

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/voter-guide/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/health/voting-in-person-early-covid-19-wellness/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/politics/what-matters-august-14/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/politics/mail-in-voting/

https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/elections-101
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 19, 2020, 01:55:16 pm
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45 Days to go, and the loss of justice Ginsburg is an American tragedy. A woman of
integrity, not only will be missed, but for the Republican party to declare they own her
seat, shows how deep their shame goes. This is total hypocrisy, because in 2016 the
GOP leadership declared the people should during an election year decide who nominates
a replacement supreme court justice. Now they have decided, apparently because it's
to their advantage they want their man to pick a justice instead of waiting for the people to
choose a new president to make the choice.

The desire of the GOP to  pack the supreme court with conservative pro corporate justices
shows it's long past time to put an end to minority party rule in this country. It's time
he corrupt big business GOP is sent to the dust bin of history. If we don't, big business
will turn this country into a refuge for the super rich with the rest of us treated like
second class citizens, and minorities more like slaves.

The Democrats must get off their backsides and vote, or the GOP will turn this country into
a hybrid autocracy much like Russia is. They no longer care about patriotism, only money and
power. To be governed by big corporations with a puppet autocrat at the top.

For years Democrats have stood by and allowed the GOP with their desire to turn the country over
to the super rich, Allowing big corporations to over price necessary goods, to the point where
people have to choose between a quick death, or  dying slowly to acquire them.

With corporate boards deciding who lives or dies, we can't expect fair treatment, because they
are only interested in keeping their stock holders happy. Where large profits raise the value of
stock, there is pressure to raise prices for their goods, caring nothing for public needs. This is
why they give millions to elect government legislators who will work to protect corporate profits.

It's unfortunate Democrats are willing to let the GOP turn the government over to corporate
America. The only way to put a stop to this is for the Democrats or some new party to take
control of the government. Then put an end to corporate greed, just as they did in the late
1800's.

If and when the GOP put another conservative justice  on the supreme court , we can expects
to see the loss of rights for women, LGBTQ, and people of color in this country. Even for
the handicapped, because by not providing  aids for those with special needs, businesses
can save money, and a conservative court will generally side with business needs, fair or not.

The GOP want to politicize the supreme court so it will benefit their party. They seem to forget
the supreme court is to protect people not a political party. To hold laws, and lower court
decisions up against the constitution. Not to make laws to benefit any group, or party.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,700,000 and deaths are over 198,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 30,500,000 and over 951,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 20, 2020, 01:17:18 pm

44 Days left, and though Trump likely feels the death of justice Ginsburg will help him
gain votes with a quick nomination for a replacement justice. His followers have little
more reason than before to vote for him. Because even if the justice had lived 2
months more, and had Trump lost, he could still have nominated a replacement justice
till January 20th. Even if the senate had been lost to the Democrats, they would have
had till December 31 to appoint the new justice.

Of course Trump isn't likely to point this out to his followers,  Instead he will likely claim
they need to reelect him so he can nominate even more justices in the future.  Though
with 6 conservative justices appointed, there would be little need for more.  Six can
easily approve any desire the Republican party or their supporters could want.

In the past the GOP had cried foul each time it looked like the Democrats might gain
and advantage of justices on the supreme court, but they see no problem if they want
to do it themselves.

I fear the GOP has lost sight of what they have been elected to do, in favor of gaining
welt, and the lust for power. No longer do they stand with other nations against
autocracy, in favor of democracy. They ignore the will of the majority, claiming they
have the right to rule, even though they cheated their way into office by limiting voting
where ever possible.

People that ignore the will of the people have no moral right to rule. Yet the
GOP continue to ignore in many cases over 60% of the population just to
receive millions in support from large corporations and the super rich.

The only reason the GOP have control is due to the majority of the population not
taking the time to vote, and worse yet, many don't seem to even care. By the time
the GOP's corruption affects them, it will be very  difficult to undo, and may not even
 be possible if our democracy has been destroyed. Because it's a very small step from
a democracy like ours to one like Russia's where the population comes under threat
each time they oppose the leadership. Threats, not only of jail, but by police attacks
that cause injuries and death.

Already demonstrators have been attacked, so if Trump wins another term, any opposition
will be met with force, and more force. Then just as he has treated immigrants at our southern
boarder, he will do the same to protesting demonstrators. Perhaps even to put their children in
cages as a cruel deterrent. 

For some reason Democrats don't see the value in control of the courts as the GOP
does. Already Moscow Mitch has added over 200 conservative judges to the federal
court system. All of which have life long terms that may last up to 50 years. The
only way they can be removed is with a 67 vote of impeachment in the U S senate.
A vote that would be difficult unless the judge was guilty  of flagrantly breaking
the law, and you can be sure that would be hard to prove.

The GOP only wants justices that agree with their policies , so they always appoint
conservatives to judgeship. They know it's easier to win in a conservative court
than in congress, where they have to deal with hundreds of members.


I fear unless the Democrats are able to expand the supreme court where a
balance is restored. Many people in this country are facing discrimination and
loss of rights. Because Trump and the GOP want to restore society to what it
was in the early 1950's.  That is the time Trump thinks American society was great.
A time when people of color were largely segregated, a time when women were
treated like property by their husbands, a time where homosexuals had to hide
their lifestyle to stay out of jail, a time when the population wanted
the handicapped hidden from sight, and a return to discrimination
of the handicapped by the business community.

Now this won't be immediate, but plans are already being made to get rid
of (Obama care) This will take affordable health insurance away from about 100
million people, if you count those with preexisting conditions. Because insurance
companies never want to cover people who have chronic health issues. The only
way they will is with extremely high priced premiums. Add this to the pandemic,
and millions could end up dead without health care.

Trump continues to promise a great health care plan to  replace (Obama Care),
but has yet to tell us anything about it. I have a hunch this will drag on past
the election, because his plan is a nothing burger. Leaving the people with
overpriced health plans by greedy insurance companies.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,800,000 and deaths are over 200,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 31,500,000 and over 955,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 21, 2020, 01:42:38 pm

43 Days left, and Trump is pushing for a quick installation of his pick for the supreme court. He
apparently believes doing so will help him win reelection. This just shows how little respect he
has for the fallen justice, who wanted Trump and the GOP to wait and let the people decide. Just
as the GOP did in 2016.

Republicans always claim how terrible the Democrats are any time the court shifts just to the middle,
much less the left. Yet when they want to push the court to the right, it's just fine, the very thing to do.
Sadly the GOP care nothing for the poor, and the sick. They claim to hate abortion, but care little for the
kids after they are born. Now they are filling the court system with conservative, big business loving
judges, who will do little to protect the individual in a fight against big business.

Even had justice Ginsburg lived, the supreme  court had a 5 to 4 conservative advantage. So it's very
likely (Obama care) would have been put down. This is why Trump's Attorney general Barr put the courts
decision off till after the election. Because Trump, and the GOP feared the backlash that would likely occur
when people were left without health care. It's unfortunate, but people are much more reactive than proactive,
and politicians take advantage of this. Especially the GOP.

If Trump is reelected, and the GOP keep the senate, the following will happen.

Obama care, ACA will be gone.
Voting rights will be gone.
LGBTQ rights will be gone.
Women's abortions rights will be gone.
This is just a few things the far right wants gone.

Other items could be in play.
Aid to children, and poor in general
Medicate
Medicare for the handicapped could be gone.
Social security disability for the handicapped could be gone.
Basically any social program by the federal government will be at risk.
Because the GOP is against federal aid. They want it all turned over to
the states. The trouble is, the states do not have the money to make
up the difference. Especially small states. So many people will be left
to suffer, and beg. Just as many did in the 19th, and early 20th century.

It took the great depression of the 1930's to overcome the conservatism
of the GOP. Still the GOP taught against the creation of social security,
and any other social program FDR pushed through. Just shows how
powerful big money is. They hate helping the poor, because they
consider being poor is the poor's fault, and not their responsibility.
Generally the super rich wait until they are looking at the grim reaper
before they feel any need to give money to the needy. Apparently
thinking they can buy their way into heaven.

I am not pointing my finger at the average Republican, as many of
them are misled by their leadership, because most are generous
and willing to help others in need. Most may regret the reelection
of Trump later on if it happens.



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,600,000 and deaths are over 201,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 30,700,000 and over 960,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 22, 2020, 01:16:26 pm

42 Days to go, and it appears the ACA (Obama care)  will soon be history, unless
the fear of GOD is put on the GOP. Trump claims he will nominate a new supreme
court justice by the end of the week. Expecting that person to be appointed  soon after.
Though a new justice may not be allowed to rule, there are still enough justices to
rule wither to end it or not. With 8 justices there could be a tie vote, which
 would let a lower court decision to end the law, stand.

Though hypocrisy is common among politicians. This reversal by the GOP to  gain
another conservative seat on the supreme court could hurt them. So Moscow Mitch
is between a rock and a hard spot. Because the appointment of a justice prior to the
election could cause the loss of GOP senate seats, and not doing it
could cost GOP seats. So he has to decide which is the least damaging to the party.
What the Democrats think means nothing to him, much less the people in general.  He
just wants to convert the federal court system to a conservative mob.

I think this is because he and others in the GOP know this country is moving away
from conservatism. So by packing the courts it can be delayed with hopes they can
turn the country back. Those in the GOP claim they are protecting the country from
socialism, but it's just a lie. It's all about protecting the super rich, so they don't have
to share the cost of government.

The end of the ACA means some of the following.
Coverage for children up to age 26 on parents plans would end.
coverage for preexisting conditions would end.
Subsidies to help pay low income peoples insurance coverage will end.
coverage to pay for tests looking for cancer will end.
Requirements to hold down drug costs will end.
Limits on insurance coverage will return.

As we can see, most of this will place hardships on millions of people. But
Trump or the GOP could care less, because their big money supporters want the
ACA to end, and the GOP may come to wish they had left it alone. Because taking
health coverage from tens of millions during a pandemic will come to haunt them for
several elections to come.

Trump claims preexisting conditions will continue to be covered, but he doesn't say
how high the premiums will be. Reports say they could be as much as $100,000.00
a month. Not counting the increase in drug costs. 

The GOP want people to think the Democrats are pushing socialism on the country,
but what they really want is to cut taxes for the very rich by reducing
government and it's regulations. The super rich take in billions they have no need
for. Money that could be used to improve the lives of millions, Not only that it would
boost the economy by making more money available for people to spend.  As is the
super rich just use it trying to grow even richer at everyone else's expense.

I would recommend people vote absent T in person, because conservative
judges, and county clerks are tossing out any mail in ballot that isn't perfect in every
way. This could end up killing hundreds of thousands of votes, not just for Democrats
but the GOP as well. That is of course those checking ballots don't give ballots
favoring the GOP special treatment. We can be sure if mail in ballots showed way
more votes for the GOP, they wouldn't want it investigated.

If you wonder why the GOP cheats by trying to limit voting, it's because the GOP is
a party with only about 30% of the population.  If all those who usually vote for
Democrats voted, the GOP would have to change it's ways, or never win a election.
As is they depend on convincing Independents with lies and misleading claims.

People should never vote based on their religion. Because this country was founded
on religious freedom. This doesn't mean each person can practice their religion in a way
that limits the rights of others. Religion is a  belief each person judges for them self,
and to impose it on others is morally wrong, along with being unconstitutional.
 

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,800,000 and deaths are over 201,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 31,000,000 and over 960,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 23, 2020, 12:52:09 pm

41  Days to go, and it appears states where Trump is having rally's are seeing a
increase in covid19 infections. Yes Trump doesn't care if you get sick and even die,
just as long as you cheer and vote for him. He doesn't care if you catch the virus at
his rally, or if you spread it to family and friends. just as long as you vote for him.

He doesn't care that over 200,000 people have died mostly because he called the
virus a hoax, and failed to  take responsibility for the public health. Trump tells people
to go to Bars, Gyms, and restaurants even though he knows these places spread the
virus more than most any where else.

The country of Canada just across our northern boarder is having a lot fewer infections
by just requiring masks, separation, and restriction on crowd sizes. Along with not
allowing high risk businesses to operate. By doing this they have virtually no deaths
through out their country. This shows there is no reason why we shouldn't be doing
just as well if Trump would do his job. Instead he just lies, trying to put the blame on
anyone but himself. Even to claim the virus only affects the elderly. Mostly he wants us
to ignore it.

It has been reported that Trump is glad the virus gives him an excuse to not shake
hands at his rally's. Because he considers the people there to be disgusting, and unfit
 to be around. Of course his followers don't want to believe Trump would say such
a thing, and some wouldn't likely care if he said it to their face.  In fact Trump seems
to has turned his followers into a death cult, as many claim they would die for him.

The once revered federal agencies, the CDC, and the FDA has been corrupted by Trump.
No longer can they be depended on to give accurate reports for public health  Because
Trump wants them to stand behind his lies, and not give the facts about covid19. Not only
this, but to minimize recommendations for factories at risk to infect it's employees.

When asked people  from these agencies  said the reason that fewer people in other
parts of the world suffer from this virus is likely due to natural immunity gained from
 their environment and climates. But they really don't know, and admitted they are
still learning. Of course they didn't mention those countries were requiring their people
to wear masks, and doing a better job of testing.

With an attorney general backing Trump and the packing the courts with conservatives
it's getting harder to do anything to stop the most corrupt president this country ever
had in it's history. If he is elected to another term and the GOP hold on to the senate,
this country will turn into an autocracy. Because the house without a court system that
will stand up to Trump, can do very little to prevent it.

The Democrats really need to impress on the public what the GOP expects from a
conservative supreme court.
They want to eliminate all rights for women to have an abortion, for any reason at all.
They want to do away with all rights to vote.
They want to do away with Obama care.
They want to eliminate all social programs.
They want to eliminate environmental regulations that protect air, and water.
They want to invalidate a win by Biden this November.

These are just a few of the GOP plans for our country.

I hope if the Democrats take the white house, senate, and keep the house. They do
the following.
Allow a simple majority vote for everything in the senate.
Restore all voting rights.
Restore affordable health insurance to the people , including those with health issues.
Require pharmaceutical corporation to sell drugs in the U S at world prices.
Restore women's rights over their own bodies.
Start state hood proceedings for Puerto Rico.
Start state hood for the U S capital city.
Restore rights to the LGBTQ.
Expand the supreme court to at least 11 seats, then fill the extra seats with liberal
justices. Perhaps even to 15 seats so the GOP won't do it instead.

I am sure the GOP would be squealing bloody murder over this, but it's time they took
some of their own medicine. It's time our government looked after the people, and not
just big business, and the super rich.

 


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,900,000 and deaths are over 201,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 31,700,000 and over 971,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 24, 2020, 01:33:25 pm

40 Days left, and it seems Trump thinks he can continue to be president for another 12 years.
Well he and his supporters best read the constitution, because ever since FDR served 4 terms
the GOP decided to limit the office of the president to 2 terms. Because they were afraid that
 another Democrat might be popular enough to do the same. I wouldn't put it past them to
come up with an excuse to give Trump more time in office, since they believe only they
should run the country. I don't think they alone can change the limit they worked
so hard to set 70 years ago. 

At his rally's Trump tells his supporters he will win unless the Democrats rig the election. He
said this 4 years ago, because Trump isn't capable of accepting the possibility he could lose
in a honest election. So in his mind a  loss must be due to a rigged election, because he can't
ever lose due to his mindset. So if the vote goes against him, he will have numerous  lawyers
in any state where the election is close going to court, suing to over turn the vote, and if those
judges go against him, he will take it to a supreme court with justices he thinks should be loyal
to him. He has already said he would accept any decision by the supreme court, because he
apparently thinks it's in the bag.

The GOP doesn't trust the courts to decide in Trumps  favor, so they are going to every
state with a GOP controlled legislature pushing for them to make their electors vote for
Trump even if their state votes for Biden. Yes this is legal, though immoral. But since
the election of Trump the GOP has lost any morality they ever had. If they really sink
so low as to do this, they should never win another election again.

The FDA said it's not likely a vaccine would be approveable before the election, so
Trump spoke up and said he himself would approve one if they don't. So since
when did Trump get a medical education to make such a decision? But I am sure
his cult followers are ready to believe him no matter the danger. I never could
understand why a man or woman should be more believable just because they
have been elected president. If a man or woman is corrupt the office of president
isn't going to change them. Over they years many corrupt people have won public
office, with no change at all. They continued to be corrupt. Just as Trump has.

If Trump steals the election, The only entity able to hold him accountable is the
military. Hopefully they won't stand by and allow him to remain in office, because
at that point Trump will be an autocrat not a president.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 6,900,000 and deaths are over 202,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 31,900,000 and over 978,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 25, 2020, 01:17:51 pm

40 Days to go, and Trump wants the American public to  ignore covid19, a virus
that not only can kill, it can damage the health of those who catch it. Medical
science still doesn't know how long effects from this virus will stay over time.
Many many people are still suffering months after contracting covid19. Not just those
in hospitals, but at home.with brain damage, lung damage,heart, and kidney damage
as well. Even other problems too. Though some may be rare, the risk is there.

Trump doesn't care, he just wants the public to forget how little he did to protect
the public health. He wants you to forget that due to his irresponsible acts over
200,000 people  are dead. All he wants is to win the  election he has no business
winning. So he is trying to convince his followers and the public  a loss has to be fraudulent, so if
he does lose they will support his claims that
the election was stolen from him.

It voting turned out to  be fraudulent, Trump would not remain president. Instead the current
speaker of the house would become president until another election was held. I am sure Trump
would dispute this, but the speaker is the default president if one isn't elected.

When Bush was declared the winner in 2000, it wasn't due to fraud it was
a judgment about the reading of ballots in Florida, and his opponent Gore
accepted the judgment for the good of the country. Something Trump would
 fight to the bitter  end, not for his  followers or the country, but  for himself.

People should understand that Trump wants to be an autocrat, not a president. He envies
Putin of Russia, and the leader of China, because they are able to keep the leadership as
long as they like. His followers may even want Trump to be president as long as he wants, but
this is a foolish idea, because unlike FDR Trump wants to be a dictator, not a president. So the
the longer he is in office, the more dangerous he will become. Not just to people of color, but
to those who put him there as well. Because he does not have any respect for them or anyone
else. So if he felt guns were a threat to him, he would take them from the public, just as they
have in  Russia and China. I am sure his followers would not believe he would do it, but like
the slow boiling of a frog, he would convince the public it was for their good at first. This is
how all dictators do, they work to convince their people of the need, and by the time they
realize what has happened , it's too late.

The first presidential  debate will be held next Tuesday. We can expect Trump will
tell lie after lie, but I hope Biden doesn't let him steal the show, but stand strong
in presidential  form so Trump will  look like the fool  he is.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,000,000 and deaths are over 203,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 32,200,000 and over 982,000 deaths.
This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 26, 2020, 01:31:23 pm

39 Days left, and Trump has picked a woman of the catholic faith. This person claims she won't allow her religion to affect her supreme court decisions. Somehow I think she
has told Trump her feelings about previous decisions made by the court. As I am
sure Trump would have asked prior to choosing her.  Also I think he picked this
person, over a woman from Indiana thinking it would give him more votes from
her home state of Florida. A state Trump  desperately needs to win.  I have a hunch
I am sure her feelings against abortion also helped get her the nomination.

 I will be surprised if the senate votes to put her on the court before the election.
Because once appointed people would no longer need to vote for Trump, because
by the election the court would be solidly conservative for years to come.

 I know many people don't like abortions. even I  don't like them, but it's
not my place  to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body. 
Sadly it appears women soon will be  required by law to carry pregnancies 
to term. In some cases even if it's the result of rape or insets. Some would
even require young girls to endure it.  Others would have a woman die to save a fetus. 

 anti abortionists  only care about  the unborn,  The really sad thing is many of these
radical, once born  , they don't care about the child any more.  They like the GOP no
longer worry about them.

These people are so single minded, they don't understand making  abortion illegal won't 
stop it. In fact doing so will cause more abortions. If a woman doesn't want to have a
child, she will find a way to either get an abortion, or toss their newborn in the trash. Yes
this is a terrible thought, but the way to avoid it is to allow women the chance to
go to a reproductive health clinic. Otherwise they will find some quack to do it instead.

Trump signed a executive order he claimed forces Insurance companies to give
coverage for preexisting health conditions. This order has no legal standing. So you
best call your insurance carrier to see if they plan to follow  this order. I expect they will
laugh at you, because this order has no more teeth than a  tweet has.

One of the reasons Trump and the GOP want to get rid of the ACA is because
insurance companies  don't want to cover people who have health issues  like  diabetes, cancer, heart problems, and many other issues. Not counting the 7 million
people previously having covid19.

It seems the only time the GOP care if people with preexisting conditions can get
health coverage is just before they face elections. Because they never talk about it
after them.  Though the GOP clame they care about health coverage  and drug
 costs. They only say so when they need votes. Because the big insurance and
pharmaceutical companies pay them not to do anything that would affect their multiple
billions of dollars in profits.


Trump claims ballots with votes for him were found in a trash can. What he didn't
say was the GOP created with a law suit a requirement if a mailed in ballot in
Pennsylvania is accidently opened  it must be discarded. So it's likely this is how those
ballots found their way in to the bin.  Attorney general Barr improperly revealed  this
to Trump. Which proves Barr is trying to help Trump win. Even though it's not legal
for a government paid employee like Barr to do so. But I am sure Barr will come up
with  a non political reason for doing this. Even though revealing a investigation by
the  FBI is very  improper, even to  a president, but Barr thinks he can show
Trump anything.

The Democrats need to educate the public about Trump and how he has wrecked
the economy. Yes many people see the stock market doing well, and think it's proof the
economy is doing good. Well the economy 
is  lousy and it's Trump's fault. Trump seems to think it's all about the rich,
when it's really about the middle class, and small businesses. Trump came
into office riding an economic wave.and has done little
to keep it going. So even before the  pandemic  the economy has been slowing.


People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,000,000 and deaths are over 203,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 32,600,000 and over 990,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 27, 2020, 10:32:25 am
Trump (and/or the Republicans) is shooting himself in the foot. Two things to think about. ;)

1. There's been a lot of speculation and reasons for why Trump picked Amy Coney Barrett as a new Supreme Court justice and why he wants her nominated so fast. The most obvious is that he wants somebody confirmed before Election Day. He thinks that having her confirmed right away might help his re-election chances.
But there's something else that needs to be looked at. The Affordable Care Act. There's been speculation that Trump picked her to help him overturn/get rid of the ACA. Trump and the Repubs have been adamant about gutting the ACA. They hate it. And now with Amy Coney Barrett being chosen as the next Supreme Court pick, they may just get their wish.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/21/politics/supreme-court-obamacare-affordable-care-act/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/26/politics/democrats-biden-amy-coney-barrett-nomination/index.html
Millions of people have signed up for Obamacare in the last several years. If Trump, the Repubs, and Amy gut the ACA, then that's going to piss off a lot of people. Some of whom could potentially be Trump/Republican supporters/voters. Not everybody who signs up for Obamacare is a Democrat. You could have people/families who are Republican/Conservative just as well. Trump and the Republicans in Congress will have more to lose than gain if they gut the ACA. Particuarly losing any potential future voters. ;) Repubs are already on life support in Congress. If they gut the ACA, watch as voters vote them out.

2. Trump loves to talk about how bad mail-in voting and absentee ballots are. He constantly whines and complains about it. But the thing is, he's also shooting himself in the foot on this issue. Not all people who vote by mail with an absentee ballot are Democrats. You can have people who are Republican/Conservative vote by mail just as well. Coronavirus is making a lot of people, regardless of political affiliation, refrain from voting in person and switch to absentee balloting. So by slowing down, canceling, etc. main-in voting and absentee ballots, Trump (and Repubs in Congress) could potentially be losing votes from Republican supporters and this will hurt their re-election chances. ;)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 27, 2020, 01:10:40 pm
Trump (and/or the Republicans) is shooting himself in the foot. Two things to think about. ;)

1. There's been a lot of speculation and reasons for why Trump picked Amy Coney Barrett as a new Supreme Court justice and why he wants her nominated so fast. The most obvious is that he wants somebody confirmed before Election Day. He thinks that having her confirmed right away might help his re-election chances.
But there's something else that needs to be looked at. The Affordable Care Act. There's been speculation that Trump picked her to help him overturn/get rid of the ACA. Trump and the Repubs have been adamant about gutting the ACA. They hate it. And now with Amy Coney Barrett being chosen as the next Supreme Court pick, they may just get their wish.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/21/politics/supreme-court-obamacare-affordable-care-act/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/26/politics/democrats-biden-amy-coney-barrett-nomination/index.html
Millions of people have signed up for Obamacare in the last several years. If Trump, the Repubs, and Amy gut the ACA, then that's going to piss off a lot of people. Some of whom could potentially be Trump/Republican supporters/voters. Not everybody who signs up for Obamacare is a Democrat. You could have people/families who are Republican/Conservative just as well. Trump and the Republicans in Congress will have more to lose than gain if they gut the ACA. Particuarly losing any potential future voters. ;) Repubs are already on life support in Congress. If they gut the ACA, watch as voters vote them out.

2. Trump loves to talk about how bad mail-in voting and absentee ballots are. He constantly whines and complains about it. But the thing is, he's also shooting himself in the foot on this issue. Not all people who vote by mail with an absentee ballot are Democrats. You can have people who are Republican/Conservative vote by mail just as well. Coronavirus is making a lot of people, regardless of political affiliation, refrain from voting in person and switch to absentee balloting. So by slowing down, canceling, etc. main-in voting and absentee ballots, Trump (and Repubs in Congress) could potentially be losing votes from Republican supporters and this will hurt their re-election chances. ;)

Well said Kobuck.

38 Days left, and this supreme court pick by Trump is a far right radical. If you live in a state with a GOP senator
up for election, call his state office. Tell them if they vote to  appoint this hypocrite on the court you will vote to
kick them out of office. Yes she calls herself a Catholic, but no true Christian would accept the far right or anything
they stand for.

If you don't think so, go to The Christian Bibles  New Testament and read Christs  sermon on the mount. Compare it
to the policies of the far right and the GOP.  Love is the message, and the subject is man. Virtually all major religions
follow a similar doctrine.   The far right is the belief based on conservative radicalism created by people who want
to blame others for their failures.  It's unfortunate, but movements like the far right show up now and then, and
must be put down. Otherwise they will divide the country by playing on peoples ignorance.

Trump claims he will replace the ACA with a better cheaper health plan. He has promised this from the time he
started  his run for the office of president. Yet he has never actually  presented a plan. It's always something
he has for the future. With over 20,000 lies, I don't think he has any plan other then handing health care back
to big insurance, where they control pricing and decide who they cover. This is what the GOP want to do with
medicare and medicate. Which would end up with millions of people dead and  in bankruptcy , along with many
 small rural hospitals closing.

The GOP and Trump only care about the rich, and to heck with the rest of us. The only control we have
is to vote, and vote for people who see us all the same, with all rights as we U S citizens deserve.



People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,200,000 and deaths are over 205,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 32,900,000 and over 995,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 28, 2020, 01:29:19 pm

36 Days left, and is the GOP making a mistake in Florida by opening high risk businesses like Bars with
 covid19 growing there? I have a hunch this is Trump's idea. Because he wants people to forget about
 the pandemic. So by opening businesses he thinks it will create enough of a normal environment to do
so. This is a gamble, because it could cause a real expansion of covid19, filling the hospitals with very
sick people. I rather doubt if that would help the GOP.

Trump is encouraging his followers to go to the polls and perhaps keep people of color from voting. Well
his followers could find them selves in jail, because voter intimidation is very illegal. If they think Trump
will pardon them, they better think again, because Trump isn't at all dependable, and if they break a
state, or local law, Trump can't help them.

Some of Trump's taxes have been exposed, and as expected he pays little if any personal taxes. His
followers might think this is because Trump is smart, but should a billionaire get by paying so little
when a minimum wage worker pays more? He apparently pays other countries more than he does
here. Seems rather unpatriotic to me. The super rich shouldn't be trying to avoid all taxes just
because they have smart tax preparers. I have a hunch he paid his tax man more in 2017 than
he did in personal tax. I think there should be a minimum tax based on ones ability to pay. Too
many rich people worm there way out of paying taxes using loopholes. This isn't socialism, it's
just requiring people to  pay their fair share.

Some of the super rich see the avoidance of paying taxes  as a game. Because to them
it's not the money as much as it is winning. This is what Trump enjoys, winning. When
you stop to think about it, people like Trump see money a lot different than most people
do. It's like an addiction, they can't get enough of it.

It also appears he owes about 400 million dollars, and if this  is owed to foreign countries, it
could be used to blackmail him. This is why the super rich should never hold political office.
They have too many obligations to put the country or office first.

As usual Trump is calling the reports about his taxes fake news, and continues to claim
all his taxes are under audit. Being under audit has nothing to do with him not wanting
to release his taxes. Because the IRS doesn't care if you make your taxes public, under
audit or not.

Trump isn't going to lose his cult voters, because only Trump himself could stop many of
them from voting for him. But there are quite a few disgruntled GOP voters who may
either not vote, or hold their nose and vote for Biden. In 2016 Trump had a third party
candidate sapping quite a few votes away from H Clinton, but this year there isn't a
significant third party to help him. What there is, may take votes from him instead.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,100,000 and deaths are over 205,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 33,100,000 and over 998,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 29, 2020, 01:23:00 pm

35 Days to go, and  the first debate is tonight. I think we can be certain that Trump will
declare himself the winner, no matter how bad he does. Of course no politician admits  he
or she is losing, no matter what. Personally, knowing Trump for what he is, this debate
won't change my feelings, or my vote. If I had a choice it would be for Senator Bernie
Sanders, because I think Joe Biden is too close to the center. But Center is much better
than the far right where Trump is.

Trump always attacks instead of answering a question he doesn't like. Sadly his cult thinks
this is good instead of wanting their leader to properly respond. Since many of his supporters
probably couldn't answer the question themselves, is probably why they like Trump's attacks.
Like Trump, people often attack rather than admit they are wrong.

Trump apparently owes almost 400 million to unknown entities. If it turns out these entities
happen to be foreigners , we have to wonder, will Trump trade favors as president to pay off
these debts?   It appears he has done this with Saudi Arabia to get a loan for a favored family
member. Trump hides everything, so we have no idea what other presidential favors he might
have traded for money.

I think Democrats are way too nice, and need to get tough with the GOP who cheats and does
all they can to keep minorities from voting. It has been said Democrats bring a knife to a gun
fight with the GOP. The GOP knows they are at a big disadvantage due to the fact the Democrats
have more voters. But instead of working to get more votes legitimately, they cheat, and lie
to win. Already votes from minorities are being rejected at four times the rate votes from
whites are. Since many of these decisions are made by GOP elected officials, they are looking
for mistakes, especially if the vote is from a minority voter, then overlook those from whites.

Investigations have been promised, but anytime there is a obvious discrepancy  like this,
it should have been automatic. Instead it had to be pointed out to them. Personally I think
any vote that has been rejected should require notification of the voter, so it can be corrected.
Voting is a sacred right, and should be treated as such. Yet the GOP wants to pick and choose
their voters. It's sad the public puts up with this, because anyone who is patriotic should want
voting to be correct.
 
These reports about Trump's finances show just how poor a businessman he really is. His
supporters should take notice, but they will likely want to believe Trump when he calls
it all fake news. Interestingly enough a GOP congressman who supports Trump, is
calling for a investigation to see who  leaked Trump's tax information. If it was all
fake, why would he want to  prove these
reports are true?

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,200,000 and deaths are over 206,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 33,400,000 and over 1,000,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 29, 2020, 08:25:51 pm
For anybody that has or hasn't kept up with the news, the last two days have been "interesting" to say the least regarding Trump's tax situation.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur


It's quite possible that his tax situation could be one of the reasons why Trump is so heavily focused on winning a second term.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/opinions/trump-cant-afford-to-lose-2020-election-avlon/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/09/29/trump-tax-returns-us-election-reality-check-avlon-newday-vpx.cnn

Basically, it seems to me that Trump is using the Presidency of the United States to hide from the IRS and banks/creditors. If he loses the election, he's in deeeeeeeeep doo-doo.  :o
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on September 30, 2020, 12:01:45 am
For anybody that has or hasn't kept up with the news, the last two days have been "interesting" to say the least regarding Trump's tax situation.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur


It's quite possible that his tax situation could be one of the reasons why Trump is so heavily focused on winning a second term.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/opinions/trump-cant-afford-to-lose-2020-election-avlon/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/09/29/trump-tax-returns-us-election-reality-check-avlon-newday-vpx.cnn

Basically, it seems to me that Trump is using the Presidency of the United States to hide from the IRS and banks/creditors. If he loses the election, he's in deeeeeeeeep doo-doo.  :o

Not just that he's also trying to hold onto the office and the power as if he'll have final say in all things. We're looking at someone who aches to turn the US into his dictatorship but he's not smart enough to actually do it so he's relying on a lot of other people all over to join in.
It's like he got on the phone with Putin and Putin "Da comrade just glue yourself in chair and refuse to leave. Dey cannot throw you out if you have majority control of the main governmental institutions."
Except that Trump hasn't disassembled the main institutions of government, he has instead tried to stuff it full of other republicans all of whom are saying "Yay Trump! Go Trump!"
But I wonder if the extreme right are really so dumb that they don't see what damage this fool has done to our country. I wonder if they might pull some coup in the last moment and try to get someone else in office besides Trump. Pull the rug out from under him which he won't be expecting cause he'll expect the entire red party to stand with him.

I mean you would have to really not want to see the damage this moron has caused. I honestly think our country would have been in better hands if we had somehow elected Gilligan from Gilligan's Island to be president.

Still, all of that aside, all Trump is doing buying time till he faces the headman's axe. He's gonna have to face the music of his tax dodging sooner or later or flee the country forever. And I hope he doesn't think he'll find asylum in Russia just because he talked about how great Putin is. Putin would sell his chubby butt to the highest bidder. :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 30, 2020, 01:05:49 pm

34 Days to go, and Trump did little to help his campaign in the debate last night. Trump
just showed how big a bully he is by  not listening to the moderator or following the
debate  rules. More than once the moderator had to call Trump down for speaking out
of turn. Biden did his best to stay on subject matter while Trump jumped all over the
place, telling lie after lie. Sad to  say, I imagine many of his followers will say Trump
was just trying to defend himself each time he interrupted Biden. Even though Trump
had every opportunity
to do so without interrupting.

When asked to denounce the white supremacists, he refused and told them to stand
back and stand by. As if he plans to  have them go watch polling places and intimidate
people to limit voting. These people will likely end up in jail if they attempt this, then
Trump will complain and make excuses claiming they were preventing fraudulent voting.
In fact everything Trump has done over the past 4 years proves him to be more than
a racist, but a white supremacist as well. Trump even put a stop to sensitivity training
that is used to educate people so they don't inadvertently hurt others. Just more proof
Trump cares nothing for people who are different.

Trump claims he would lower drug prices and the cost of health  insurance. Yet after
4 years he is yet to tell us how he plans to do it. Replacement of the ACA will take
legislation  not a presidential decree.

People like Trump who use bullying tactics are just showing how ignorant they are. Smart people
use their brains, not lies to get their way. A president who is a bully is a poor excuse for a
leader.  I am sure most people see bullies as ignorant people who blame others for their
inability to be popular, or win.

Trump didn't even speak to America last night, instead it was all about him.
wanting to defend himself. Worried that he might lose, and end up in jail for
the rest of his life. Being president may have been the biggest mistake of his
life. Because the last thing a crook should do it expose themselves to the light,
and the job of president is under the brightest bulb around.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.


Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,200,000 and deaths are over 206,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 33,700,000 and over 1,000,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 30, 2020, 01:35:34 pm
I was honestly shocked by Trump's behaviour last night. I think this really showed how big his ego is. The debate almost looked more like a 3rd grade classroom than a presidential debate. But I can't give Biden a pass either. He refused to do a drug test or an ear check. There also is a zoomed in video of him which shows that he was wearing a wire. Of course though, it could have been doctored. Also, in the debate itself he downright refused to answer some of the questions.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 30, 2020, 01:55:51 pm
The debate last night was a complete joke.  >:( The comedy team of Stan Laural and Oliver Hardy could probably have done better. If anything could have brought that debate to a more "civilized" manner, it should have been more moderating. Chris Wallace did a poor job of moderating last night.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 30, 2020, 02:40:30 pm
The debate last night was a complete joke.  >:( The comedy team of Stan Laural and Oliver Hardy could probably have done better. If anything could have brought that debate to a more "civilized" manner, it should have been more moderating. Chris Wallace did a poor job of moderating last night.
It's all a show that the MSM profits from.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on September 30, 2020, 04:14:46 pm
In the end all 3 parties were deeply in the wrong.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 30, 2020, 07:51:20 pm
Quote
But I can't give Biden a pass either. He refused to do a drug test or an ear check. There also is a zoomed in video of him which shows that he was wearing a wire. Of course though, it could have been doctored.

Fact check, please. Cite your source/evidence. I'd like to see.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 01, 2020, 03:35:08 am
Quote
But I can't give Biden a pass either. He refused to do a drug test or an ear check. There also is a zoomed in video of him which shows that he was wearing a wire. Of course though, it could have been doctored.

Fact check, please. Cite your source/evidence. I'd like to see.
Wire- https://youtu.be/GdJBcKvt3-A
There are all sorts of people claiming is was a shirt crease. You can judge for yourself on that one.

drug test- https://khn.org/morning-breakout/biden-campaign-laughs-off-trumps-pre-debate-drug-test-suggestion/

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 01, 2020, 11:35:39 am
Hans, that "wire" that people think they saw, is just a shirt crease. I rewatched the debate last night. No wire. It was just Biden scratching an itch he probably had. And Biden had no devices in his ears, either.
I'm sick and tired of all these nutjobs spreading wacko conspriacies all over the Net.  >:(  Stop believing in all that rubbish, Hans. As for that drug test, it's just Trump trying to aggravate Biden and get under his skin so to speak. Trump is just doing whatever he can and in any way he can to discredit Biden. It's nothing more than a "cheap trick".
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/no-evidence-biden-was-wearing-a-wire-in-debate/
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 01, 2020, 12:19:24 pm
Hans, that "wire" that people think they saw, is just a shirt crease. I rewatched the debate last night. No wire. It was just Biden scratching an itch he probably had. And Biden had no devices in his ears, either.
I'm sick and tired of all these nutjobs spreading wacko conspriacies all over the Net.  >:(  Stop believing in all that rubbish, Hans. As for that drug test, it's just Trump trying to aggravate Biden and get under his skin so to speak. Trump is just doing whatever he can and in any way he can to discredit Biden. It's nothing more than a "cheap trick".
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/no-evidence-biden-was-wearing-a-wire-in-debate/
You're right. On the higher quality film it does look more like a crease then a wire.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 01, 2020, 01:05:17 pm
33 Days left, I really would expect both Trump and Biden to have a earphone. Consider some national
emergency was to arise. Would we want the whole nation to know? This way Trump could walk out with
an excuse. I really wouldn't expect Trump to submit to a drug test, unless it was fake. But I think Biden
is honest enough to admit the use of any serious medication that could affect his mental proficiency.
If either one of these men have mental problems, it's Trump.

If Trump was a honest man, and had been willing to discontinue control of his businesses, I could
overlook some of what he does. But not the way he treats immigrants, the environment, and the
way he sucks up to big business would turn me off completely. Trump never has wanted to be president
of all Americans, just for those who voted for him, and those with a bag of money to give him.

In his mind we are all suckers and fools, even those who support him. I really don't know how
to change their minds. I am afraid as people have down through history, will have to learn the
hard way.  Too many people are ready to blame someone else for their troubles. Trump knows
how to manipulate them, the perfect cult leader.

The GOP has done a good job to convince people they shouldn't want the government  to
help  the poor. or the sick. To think these people are lazy good for nothing people  looking
for a hand out. And to do so would lead the country into socialism. While behind closed
doors they want us all to give big business and the rich handouts.

The next debate has apparently been changed to a town hall format. Still I am sure
Trump won't keep his mouth shut while Biden tries to answer questions. I think they
should have left it the same, and give the moderator a switch he or she could use  to
cut either mike off. Because Trump doesn't want to play by the rules. Also they shouldn't
use a supporter of either man for a moderator. The last one worked for Fox News. I even
heard him apologized to Trump, saying you will like the next segment better.

To hear Trump the election is rigged against him. He expected to lose the one he won, with
plans to go online with a video hoping to convince the public the Democrats cheated him out
of a win. I think he has this in mind if he loses this time. I fear this time he will have supporters
who will use violence in his support. People who believe the lies of Trump. It's sad, but
Trump thinks the only way he can lose, is if someone cheats him. This has been his life
long belief. This is another good reason he has no business being president.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,200,000 and deaths are over 207,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 33,800,000 and over 1,000,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 02, 2020, 10:55:22 am
BREAKING NEWS!

It was only a matter of time. When you mess with karma, karma bites back. ;)

President Trump (and his wife) both test positive for coronavirus.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/president-donald-trump-coronavirus-positive-test/index.html

But how serious is it for trump? Good question.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/health/trump-melania-coronavirus-risk-factors-bn/index.html

It's a good bet Trump probably caught it from White House advisor Hope Hicks. So now what will Trump do? He'll obviously have to stop his in person campaign rallies. He'll have to quarantine at the White House. I wonder if this will now make him change his mind on wearing masks? (Yeah, right. Doubtful.)


Hans Husky: About that wire/crease in Biden's shirt:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/tech/biden-debate-wire-conspiracy/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 02, 2020, 01:04:12 pm

32 Days to go, and Trump the so called chosen one has been infected with covid19.
This is the fault of Trump himself. He didn't have to travel around the country, but he
not only put himself at risk, he put dozens of staff at risk as well. At last report Trump
has minor symptoms, but will they tell the public if he really gets sick? Tweets mean
nothing as anyone could be posting those.  Historically some presidents have hidden
illnesses, even serous illness. President Wilson had a serious stroke which was kept
secret.

It was reported that when Trump left to go to a fund raiser, he already knew he
and staff had been exposed to the virus. Yet instead of cancelling he decided to
go anyway.  Putting dozens more people at risk. More proof that Trump cares little for
those around him. Even with a pandemic in play.

Joe Biden may have been put at risk during the debate, but so far he has tested virus
free. Trump has met with dozens of people, including senators, and congressmen
lately. So we could end up with much of the senate shut down. The supreme court
nominee has met with 30 GOP senators over the last few days. So she could be
infected too.
 
With a president possibly becoming seriously ill, national security becomes a issue.
So hopefully the vice president is kept up on security issues till Trump recovers. If
he becomes infected too, the speaker of the house should be made aware, so she
can pick up the ball so to speak. But with someone like Trump, we can only wonder if
he would allow proper preparations to be made.

Even if Trump recovers quickly, the virus has been known to cause lingering
problems. So it could take weeks of not months to know if he has been
seriously affected by the virus. Something for voters to consider, but
we can be sure the Trump campaign will want to play this down. Perhaps
even to hide any lingering issues he might have.

 Reports are the GOP legislature in Pennsylvania is considering the creation  of a
investigative panel to make sure the voting is honest, and to invalidate the
results, if it doesn't favor the GOP.  It's likely other states with GOP controlled
legislatures would do the same.  Doing this would be for the benefit of Trump,
and those GOP congressmen should lose their seats for such a disgusting
brazen act.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,400,000 and deaths are over 208,000 and
4,200,000 active cases.

World wide the number of infections is over 34,200,000 and over 1 million deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on October 02, 2020, 02:23:01 pm
BREAKING NEWS!

It was only a matter of time. When you mess with karma, karma bites back. ;)

President Trump (and his wife) both test positive for coronavirus.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/president-donald-trump-coronavirus-positive-test/index.html

But how serious is it for trump? Good question.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/health/trump-melania-coronavirus-risk-factors-bn/index.html

It's a good bet Trump probably caught it from White House advisor Hope Hicks. So now what will Trump do? He'll obviously have to stop his in person campaign rallies. He'll have to quarantine at the White House. I wonder if this will now make him change his mind on wearing masks? (Yeah, right. Doubtful.)


Hans Husky: About that wire/crease in Biden's shirt:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/tech/biden-debate-wire-conspiracy/index.html

Forgive me a little schadenfreude but
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

What did he expect going all over the world, not wearing a mask, doing nothing to protect himself or others and acting like this thing is no big deal.
I wanna say he's been hoist by own petard but for this moron its more like hoist by own retard.

I mean I don't want him dead, I don't hate trump that much, but I will enjoy watching him get a spanking from the universe and see if he learns his lesson.
Which I very much doubt he will.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 02, 2020, 02:46:31 pm
Trump downplayed Hope Hicks COVID19 hours before coming down with it himself. President Trump waltzed into his own lie.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 02, 2020, 03:50:28 pm
I read a post on Facebook where somebody was mentioning that if Trump became too ill and passed away from the coronavirus, that the next in line for the Presidency should be his son Donald Trump Jr. or his wife, or some other member of the Trump family.
Uh, sorry, but the line of succession doesn't work that way. That type of succession might be all well and good in some other country. But here in the U.S., that's what our Founding Fathers wanted to get away from when writing the Constitution. The line of succession falls next to the Vice President, then the Speaker of the House, then the Senate president pro tempore, then to various Cabinet members.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/trump-covid-line-of-succession-governance/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/us/succession-presidential-and-vice-presidential-fast-facts/index.html

Sorry, folks. But Constitutional law is the law. Trump's family will not be ruling America forever.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 03, 2020, 12:41:54 pm

Yes Kobuck you are correct. It seems some of Trump's followers think this country needs a king. Somehow
I think they would change their mind when Trump decided everyone but the elite should be peasants with the
rich as their overlords.

31 Days to go, and all we know for sure is Trump is in the hospital. What his condition
may be is anyone's guess. Over the years Trump has kept his health a closely
guarded secret, with misinformation and lies. So we have to take all official reports
about his health with suspicion at best. In fact we won't likely hear anything but
 glowing reports  unless his condition becomes very serious.

We may wonder if this experience will change Trump at all. To be honest I doubt if it
will. Instead he may just claim he is proof the virus isn't a big deal for any one who is
healthy. Especially if he happens to recover quickly. I very much doubt  if he would
admit to any lingering issues.

Though his doctors are claiming he is doing well, his going from testing positive  to
being in the hospital in under 24 hours seems rather ominous. Especially with what
appears to be rather aggressive treatment.

With his being in the hospital and the fact he wants total control over decisions, we
can wonder just how much this will affect his campaign, and the running of the
government. Already the Vice President didn't want to mention any plans for taking
power if Trump became unable to do the job of president. As if he was afraid his boss
wouldn't like it.

The highly infectious nature of this virus means anyone who enters the room with him
is at risk of being infected. If Trump cared, he would transfer power to his VP to limit
the need for anyone being with him directly. Though it would be a good thing to do, I
am sure Trump would fear loss of control, for it could mean the release of secrets he
wants kept close. I doubt if he really trusts anyone with his secrets,
secrets that if released could mean his defeat in November, and prison.

As I expected the latest reports on Trumps condition was glowing. Just as he
would want it to be.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,400,000 and deaths are over 209,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 34,500,000 and over 1 million deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Firelight on October 03, 2020, 03:09:28 pm
My dad thinks that Trump may fake his own death and flee to Russia if he doesn't win the election. I hope he doesn't win and or the virus does him in.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 03, 2020, 05:49:46 pm
Nothing about this is clear. Of course there are all sorts of conspiracy theories that it's a hoax and that he is using it to win the election. Even if it is real and nothing happens then it may help convince people. If he does get sick though, then he is in big trouble. The best outcome would be that after this, he will start to take the pandemic seriously, similar to what happened in England.

Regardless, I wish the Trump family a speedy recovery. I may not be his biggest fan, but I wouldn't wish death upon him.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 03, 2020, 08:20:33 pm
One scary and possible future scenario might be that if Trump were to die from the coronavirus, he might (before his passing) try to convince his son (or other family members) to carry on his "legacy" and run for office. Either in Congress or President of the U.S..

God, I certainly hope not.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 03, 2020, 08:24:26 pm
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312525833505058816?s=20

A update from the President. I hope that maybe he will take the virus more seriously after this.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 03, 2020, 08:25:28 pm
One scary and possible future scenario might be that if Trump were to die from the coronavirus, he might (before his passing) try to convince his son (or other family members) to carry on his "legacy" and run for office. Either in Congress or President of the U.S..

God, I certainly hope not.  >:( >:( >:(
There are speculations that Trump Jr. or Ivanka may run in 2024 .
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 03, 2020, 08:44:58 pm
There are three scenarios I see happening. Depending on what happens to President Trump.

One. He quickly recovers. Then goes on a rampage downplaying this virus. Going as far as calling the death rate a hoax. Then, like his comments on the US military, insulting those who suffered or lost family and friends.

Two. Becomes very ill. Has complications that could stay with him the rest of his life. Making it difficult or impossible for him hide this form the American public.

Three. Dies. This will cause the republican propaganda network to go into overdrive. Blaming his death on science and doctors who should never be trusted. Blaming it on the democratic parting for not doing their part in stopping this virus. The brainwashed will praise them and join in. The republican party will then continue their misinformation tactics. Even more Americans will die.

Unfortunately the only good scenario is 'Two'.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 03, 2020, 08:48:18 pm
Another thought I had: With Trump now having coronavirus (and making that Twitter video), that could play very well into Trump's hands/reelection campaign. Because now, his supporters (and/or others) might feel sympathy/pity for him and re-elect him. A lot more votes could go toward Trump instead of Biden. I really feel people should not do this. Don't elect somebody out of sympathy, pity, etc. But vote for somebody based on their actual accomplishments (or lack thereof).
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 03, 2020, 08:50:41 pm
One thing is for sure. It will be very interesting to see how this will play out.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 03, 2020, 08:52:45 pm
Another thought I had: With Trump now having coronavirus (and making that Twitter video), that could play very well into Trump's hands/reelection campaign. Because now, his supporters (and/or others) might feel sympathy/pity for him and re-elect him. A lot more votes could go toward Trump instead of Biden. I really feel people should not do this. Don't elect somebody out of sympathy, pity, etc. But vote for somebody based on their actual accomplishments (or lack thereof).
This is why some people are calling this a hoax. I personally don't believe that but it will defientely impact the election.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 04, 2020, 01:14:20 pm

30 Days left, and it appears several members of the GOP leadership have been infected. If Trump
recovers quickly, I would  be suspicious, but to pull off a hoax claiming Trump had been infected
would be difficult at best. Too many people would have to go along with it. Someone would likely
spill the beans. Then the backlash would cost the GOP dearly.

Though a president should get the best of care, and medication. It
shouldn't mean the rest of us get less. I understand the treatments
he is getting is some of the most expensive there is.  One might
wonder if he is getting it because he wants it, or because it is needed.
His supporters should wonder why he isn't getting the same medication
he has been bragging about for the rest of us.

In the past, any reports about his  health have been approved by him
prior to release, so we have to wonder how honest they really are. So
all of his glowing reports seem  unusual, because most overweight
people his age would not be doing that great. We
know Trump has some health issues even though he
wants to hide it, because he wants
us   to believe he is very healthy.

Even if Trump returns to the White House in a few days, there is a
good chance  he will have  lingering effects from this virus. Trump 
isn't likely to mention them, and he wouldn't want his  doctor to
either.  So unless he has to return to the hospital or he has a
weak spell in front of  the media, we won't know about it.
When  he does leave the hospital, he will need to   be virus 
free to be around other people. This could take many days,
and  Trump will be wanting to get out even though it will
put many at risk.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,400,000 and deaths are over 209,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 34,800,000 and over 1 million  deaths.
This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

If my text looks weird it's due to my poor vision.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 04, 2020, 01:44:49 pm
https://youtu.be/f-dzNcXcTnQ

An update from the white house medical team.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on October 05, 2020, 05:18:55 am
Another thought I had: With Trump now having coronavirus (and making that Twitter video), that could play very well into Trump's hands/reelection campaign. Because now, his supporters (and/or others) might feel sympathy/pity for him and re-elect him. A lot more votes could go toward Trump instead of Biden. I really feel people should not do this. Don't elect somebody out of sympathy, pity, etc. But vote for somebody based on their actual accomplishments (or lack thereof).

If anything, sympathy should keep people from voting for him.
"Oh no, he's sick. We shouldn't put the pressure on him to run the country"

Besides, he got the plague. That's not something I want in a leader. I prefer presidents who don't catch the plague.  8)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 05, 2020, 12:38:49 pm

29 Days left, and it appears Trump is deciding his hospital treatment. He fails to stay in
his room, and left the hospital for a joy ride so he could wave to his supporters. We can
only wonder if he is telling his doctors how to treat him?  This joy ride of his put many
people at risk as he rode in a sealed vehicle with several others. Just more proof
Trump only cares about himself and not those who are required to support his travel
needs.

Trump seems to think he doesn't have to follow quarantine rules. So when he feels
like taking a walk, he just walks out of his room with no concern for anyone who might
be in the hallway that he might infect. His supporters might think it's okay for him to
break hospital rules, but these rules are to protect others who are in the hospital.

It seems Trump has little interest in how his movements affect national security. He just
seems to only think he should be able to jump up and go at the spur of the moment,
just as he did when he was a private citizen. Dozens of people are required to keep
track of him 24 hours a day.  To do their job properly they need advance warning when
he decides to move, even if it's just around the block.

Trump claims he has learned a lot about covid19. Well this is likely a lie, because his
actions say otherwise. If he had he wouldn't be walking about, exposing others to the
virus. Also he would be following doctors orders, because they can't help anyone who
doesn't listen to them. Trump seems to think he is smarter than the doctors trying to
treat him, and this could put him at serious risk. Also the drugs they have him on can
affect him mentally. Slow his thinking, or cause him to be confused at times. So he
ought to turn power over to the vice president while he is receiving treatment. Because
he might be required to make a quick decision that could start or prevent a war.

But no, he fails to understand the danger his actions are putting our nation in. Either
that or he is more concerned about his reelection than the country. Here again the
GOP leadership is refusing to stand against Trump for the good of the nation.

Reports say Trump wants to get back on the campaign trail. So will he wait till he is
virus free, or will he put dozens, perhaps hundreds of people at risk just for his own
benefit? 

it appears his  showing off at the debate with Biden has cost him support. I felt
his bullying tactics just made him look ignorant more than anything else. If he
was as smart as he claims to be, he would have spoken intelligently instead of
improperly budding in on his opponent, like a schoolyard bully.

This business of Trump wanting people  to think he is tough by moving around
instead of resting just puts himself at risk. This virus can turn on a person from
letting one feel good to needing a ventilator in a matter of hours.  So Trump
 should  stay at the hospital till he is virus free. His hospital has everything  a
president needs to do his job, so there is no good reason to leave early.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden
and Harris look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over7,400,000 and deaths are over 210,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 35,000,000 and over 1,010,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 05, 2020, 02:24:22 pm
Another thought I had: With Trump now having coronavirus (and making that Twitter video), that could play very well into Trump's hands/reelection campaign. Because now, his supporters (and/or others) might feel sympathy/pity for him and re-elect him. A lot more votes could go toward Trump instead of Biden. I really feel people should not do this. Don't elect somebody out of sympathy, pity, etc. But vote for somebody based on their actual accomplishments (or lack thereof).

If anything, sympathy should keep people from voting for him.
"Oh no, he's sick. We shouldn't put the pressure on him to run the country"

Besides, he got the plague. That's not something I want in a leader. I prefer presidents who don't catch the plague.  8)

You could always vote for me.  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 05, 2020, 02:59:21 pm
It really sickens me to see that Trump just doesn't care about the coronavirus at all. Him being in that SUV was just a careless photo op political stunt.  >:( Even some of his Secret Service agents were against it. But to Trump, he doesn't care.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/politics/donald-trump-walter-reed-coronavirus/index.html

Quote
But the drive-by was totally and completely unnecessary. There is absolutely no medical reason for why Trump should be put into a car and paraded by his supporters, with two Secret Service agents in the front seat. None.
The reason why Trump did it, then? There are actually two.

1) He is increasingly concerned that being in the hospital makes him look weak in the eyes of voters. And for Trump, there is NOTHING worse than looking weak. He has spent his whole life projecting a tough-guy image and deriding those who he views to be less tough. Trump has released multiple videos from Walter Reed making sure his supporters know that while he's in the hospital he is still working -- and not laid low by the virus. But that wasn't enough for him. He wanted more of a show, more of a "moment" that would make clear that he was holding up against the virus. And so, the parade.

2) He needs to hear the cheers and applause of his most ardent backers. When Trump heard that there were people waving flags and standing vigil for him outside the hospital, it was like a moth to a flame. Trump has long believed that his raucous campaign rallies are the lifeblood of his campaign, and it's become increasingly clear how much he depends on them. This is a President who desperately needs to be affirmed for every word he says and action he takes. The applause, the chants, the MAGA hats -- they all fuel him. It's how he does what he does. And in the hospital, he hasn't been able to hold any rallies or even see people cheering for him. And so he leaped at the chance to do so.

Trump didn't think about anyone else -- and what his stunt might mean for them -- because that is not what he does. As he has proven time and time again as both a candidate for president and during his first term, he lacks the empathy gene. Trump views the world through a very simple lens: Is this good for me or bad for me? If the former, he does it. If the latter he doesn't.

In short, Trump is an attention seeker. He craves and wants attention and will do almost anything to get it. Even if it means sacrificing others to get it.
Even his own Secret Service detail was against the SUV ride.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/politics/trump-secret-service-trip/index.html

Quote
Afterward, members of the Secret Service voiced escalating concern at what many of the agency's personnel have determined is total disregard for their well-being amid a deadly and highly contagious pandemic. Agents have tested positive for the virus while traveling for the President's political rallies, which he insisted on maintaining even against federal health guidelines. As employees self-quarantine or isolate in place, others have been forced to work longer hours to fill the void.
It's a situation that has prompted growing and more vocal concern.

"That should never have happened," one current Secret Service agent who works on the presidential and first family detail said after Trump's drive-by, adding that those agents who went along for the ride would now be required to quarantine.

"I mean, I wouldn't want to be around them," the agent said, expressing a view that multiple people at the Secret Service also voiced in the wake of Sunday's appearance.

 "The frustration with how we're treated when it comes to decisions on this illness goes back before this though. We're not disposable."
Another veteran Secret Service agent also expressed deep dismay at the Walter Reed ride, though was sympathetic for those around the President given the difficulty in pushing back on the commander-in-chief.
"You can't say no," the agent said.
While agents in the Secret Service have the power to say no to activities that could put a president in danger, they can't say no in situations that could put themselves in danger.

A third agent told CNN: "It was simply reckless." But another sought to downplay the concern.
"I've watched some of the news today and it's ridiculous to say the President is trying to kill off his detail," said another current agent on Sunday. "He's unconventional, but we get the job done."

And it's not just his SS detail he put at risk, but a lot of his aides and other important people too.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/04/politics/trump-circle-covid-cases/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 05, 2020, 07:19:45 pm
The president has just returned to the white house from Walter Reed
It's important to remember the it takes 14 days for the symptoms to develop and he was only infected 5 days ago. He may very well have another flair up and have to return to Walter Reed. With white house staffers getting infected left and right, it will be very interesting to see what will happens in the course of the next month and if the president will take a new approach the the pandemic.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 05, 2020, 07:21:58 pm
Quote
......and if the president will take a new approach the the pandemic.

It'll be a cold day in hell before the President changes his tune on coronavirus.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 05, 2020, 07:23:16 pm
It really sickens me to see that Trump just doesn't care about the coronavirus at all. Him being in that SUV was just a careless photo op political stunt.  >:( Even some of his Secret Service agents were against it. But to Trump, he doesn't care.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/politics/donald-trump-walter-reed-coronavirus/index.html

Quote
But the drive-by was totally and completely unnecessary. There is absolutely no medical reason for why Trump should be put into a car and paraded by his supporters, with two Secret Service agents in the front seat. None.
The reason why Trump did it, then? There are actually two.

1) He is increasingly concerned that being in the hospital makes him look weak in the eyes of voters. And for Trump, there is NOTHING worse than looking weak. He has spent his whole life projecting a tough-guy image and deriding those who he views to be less tough. Trump has released multiple videos from Walter Reed making sure his supporters know that while he's in the hospital he is still working -- and not laid low by the virus. But that wasn't enough for him. He wanted more of a show, more of a "moment" that would make clear that he was holding up against the virus. And so, the parade.

2) He needs to hear the cheers and applause of his most ardent backers. When Trump heard that there were people waving flags and standing vigil for him outside the hospital, it was like a moth to a flame. Trump has long believed that his raucous campaign rallies are the lifeblood of his campaign, and it's become increasingly clear how much he depends on them. This is a President who desperately needs to be affirmed for every word he says and action he takes. The applause, the chants, the MAGA hats -- they all fuel him. It's how he does what he does. And in the hospital, he hasn't been able to hold any rallies or even see people cheering for him. And so he leaped at the chance to do so.

Trump didn't think about anyone else -- and what his stunt might mean for them -- because that is not what he does. As he has proven time and time again as both a candidate for president and during his first term, he lacks the empathy gene. Trump views the world through a very simple lens: Is this good for me or bad for me? If the former, he does it. If the latter he doesn't.

In short, Trump is an attention seeker. He craves and wants attention and will do almost anything to get it. Even if it means sacrificing others to get it.
Even his own Secret Service detail was against the SUV ride.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/05/politics/trump-secret-service-trip/index.html

Quote
Afterward, members of the Secret Service voiced escalating concern at what many of the agency's personnel have determined is total disregard for their well-being amid a deadly and highly contagious pandemic. Agents have tested positive for the virus while traveling for the President's political rallies, which he insisted on maintaining even against federal health guidelines. As employees self-quarantine or isolate in place, others have been forced to work longer hours to fill the void.
It's a situation that has prompted growing and more vocal concern.

"That should never have happened," one current Secret Service agent who works on the presidential and first family detail said after Trump's drive-by, adding that those agents who went along for the ride would now be required to quarantine.

"I mean, I wouldn't want to be around them," the agent said, expressing a view that multiple people at the Secret Service also voiced in the wake of Sunday's appearance.

 "The frustration with how we're treated when it comes to decisions on this illness goes back before this though. We're not disposable."
Another veteran Secret Service agent also expressed deep dismay at the Walter Reed ride, though was sympathetic for those around the President given the difficulty in pushing back on the commander-in-chief.
"You can't say no," the agent said.
While agents in the Secret Service have the power to say no to activities that could put a president in danger, they can't say no in situations that could put themselves in danger.

A third agent told CNN: "It was simply reckless." But another sought to downplay the concern.
"I've watched some of the news today and it's ridiculous to say the President is trying to kill off his detail," said another current agent on Sunday. "He's unconventional, but we get the job done."

And it's not just his SS detail he put at risk, but a lot of his aides and other important people too.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/04/politics/trump-circle-covid-cases/index.html
Correct me if i'm wrong, but he had to get into the car anyways to get to marine one when he was discharged. I also believe that he always has the same agents with him. In the end , I don't see how it made any difference.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 06, 2020, 12:43:15 am
Told ya. Looks like it's scenario 'A'. The only thing we can hope for now is enough of his base has had friends and family members die of this virus. And become offended by his antics.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 06, 2020, 01:51:37 pm

28 Days to go, and does Trump have a death wish? Leaving the hospital just because
he is apparently afraid of the drop in the polls. puts him at serious risk. If his supporters
think not. after he climbed the stairs to a balcony, he removed his mask, apparently
do to being short of breath. Even though he claimed to be doing fine.

Trump is trying to claim this virus is nothing to worry about, but few people will have
the same access to the drugs he has received. Even if they turn out to be a good
treatment for covid19, they are very expensive and are slow to make.

Some are claiming Biden was disrespectful to the president during the debate. Well I
 think Biden did the best anyone could with a bully like Trump interrupting constantly. I
think most people would have got into a shouting match with Trump, and I think that is
what he was hoping to start.

 Trump continues to act like an authoritarian. Strutting and  putting on a  show to those
he can con into supporting him. This is how dictators do, when they stand in front  of
huge crowds.  Many of who are afraid of opposing them, yet feel they must show up
and cheer, or face possible loss of friends.

Many in Trumps circle are turning up being infected by covid19, and appears to be
spreading. They continue to meet without masks or maintaining proper distance from
each other. Moscow Mitch is wanting to put Trump's pick for the supreme court up for
a vote soon, even with GOP senators coming down with Trump's virus. Senate rules
require senators to be present to  vote, but Mosscow Mitch may try to get around this.

The debate between Harris and the VP is still on for Wednesday evening. Harris asked
for a plexiglass divider between them, but the VP tried to make out like it was silly. But
the debate committee said they would, in spite of the GOP's not wanting it. It's time the
GOP stood up to Trump's claims about this virus, no matter what he says.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U s is over 7,450,000 and deaths are over 211,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 35,500,000 and over 1,012,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 06, 2020, 02:07:14 pm
I've received info on absentee voting in MO. You have to above the age of 65 and or have medical conditions that would make you more susceptible to catching the virus. Also the voter info has to be notarized. Which means despite the fact that you are more susceptible you have to go to a public place to get it notarized. YES the republican party sucks. They should all be voted out.

My scenario A is playing out to the letter. President Trump is downplaying the virus. Even had a video removed from Facebook. His next move will be to insult those who have died. This should happen withing 48 hours. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 06, 2020, 02:55:52 pm
You know, it's so sad that the US is filled with such great people, yet the 2 people that are competing for the presidency, are the 2 biggest nutjobs I have ever heard of, in my personal opinion.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 06, 2020, 03:03:30 pm
You know, it's so sad that the US is filled with such great people, yet the 2 people that are competing for the presidency, are the 2 biggest nutjobs I have ever heard of, in my personal opinion.

Biden isn't nearly the nutjob that Trump is. Not even close.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 06, 2020, 03:26:24 pm
You know, it's so sad that the US is filled with such great people, yet the 2 people that are competing for the presidency, are the 2 biggest nutjobs I have ever heard of, in my personal opinion.

Biden isn't nearly the nutjob that Trump is. Not even close.
Look, I'm not here to debate  who is crazier. Both have major flaws and anybody who thinks that there candidate of choice  is a perfect saint and the other is a evil demon is just plain ignorant and honestly, rather foolish. The point is, there are many people who are much more qualified for the presidency than Trump and Biden, yet we end up with people like this. I personally identify politically somewhere between a right leaning centrist and a moderate conservative and although my views tend to align more with the GOP than the other right wing parties like the libertarian party and  the Constitutional party, I still think it would be nice if other parties besides the GOP and the Democratic party got a good shot at the presidency.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on October 06, 2020, 09:09:33 pm
The jackass-in-chief has ignored doctor's orders and returned to the white house and taken off his mask so as to project an image of strength.

He says he "feels great" neverminding the fact that he's on a ton of medications to keep him in that state.
I have to admit, I hope he gets knocked on his rear end again. This moron doesn't deserve to be in the white house. He doesn't even deserve to be in this country. We should deport him to russia and let them deal with it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 07, 2020, 12:34:34 pm

27 Days left, and Trump decided to wait till after the election to approve any relief bill to
help those affected by covid19. Claiming he didn't want cities and states run by
Democrats to benefit from it. Seemingly to forget GOP areas need help too. This may
just be a diversion tactic to move the news off of covid19, only time will  tell. This
decision could end up being a political disaster, perhaps made under the influence of
the drugs he is on.

It appears Trump has backed up a bit due to a drop in the stock market caused by his decision
to not approve a relief bill, so he has decided he would approve a bill to help the airline industry.
He claims he is  doing this because he wants to help workers involved with the airline industry,
when in reality it's to benefit the stock market and his rich friends.

The GOP has been stalling, not wanting to support a relief bill, apparently afraid it would 
benefit  the Democrats. While publicly claiming they don't want to increase the national
debt any more. It seems the only time they care about the national debt is when the
money is for the average American. When it's for the rich, the sky is the limit.

The Trump white house is turning into a pandemic of it's own with Trump apparently
spreading his virus by not wearing a mask. Where he should be in isolation and hospitalized,
he is putting many people at risk. Just because he wants to look like a strong man. He
should be showing Americans how to protect themselves and their  fellow Americans
from covid19. Not trying to do the opposite.  He feels good due medication he is on, not
because he is beating the virus on his own, as he seems to
think.

The GOP is still telling senior citizens to forget about the virus for the good of the
economy. Yes they and president Trump are asking the elderly to put their lives at risk.
This may be backfiring on the GOP and Trump, as many of those over 65 are deciding
to vote for Democrats this time a round. A 9 point switch so far.

The justest Department claims they are going to bring terrorists to justest. Well it appears
this only applies to foreign terrorists, as terrorism by white supremacists is apparently ignored.
It seems even though white supremacist mingle with people of color to discredit their protests.
Trump's justest department wants to only blame people of color for damage to life and property.

Huge  numbers of people are voting early, and this is driving the GOP to distraction. So we are
seeing them doing everything they can to make voting more difficult. They are worried they will
not only lose the white house, and the senate, but governorship and state houses as well. Losing
control of states will make it much harder for them to limit voting in the future.  Perhaps this is
payback for all the dirty work the GOP has been up to for many years. Including their support
of Trump, the most corrupt president ever.

Trump has been tweeting and tweeting, over 40 tweets since  returning to the white house. Not only
that many of them make little if any sense. One may wonder if this is drug induced. Also there isn't
any mandate to wear masks in the white  house. Rather strange with Trump shedding virus where
ever he goes. He may not realize the steroid treatment  he is one increases his chance for other
infections.  Infections he could pick up from others in the white house.  Also this steroid would ease
and body pains he may have. So he would likely feel better due to that. Hopefully the doctors treating
him are watching for mental confusion often caused by his treatments.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,600,000 and deaths are over 212,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 35,700,000 and over 1,015,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 07, 2020, 12:47:11 pm
The jackass-in-chief has ignored doctor's orders and returned to the white house and taken off his mask so as to project an image of strength.

Not the first time nor the last a President will try to "project" a show of strength. There have been multiple Presidents in the past who have done similar things. And sometimes, the reasons may even be legitimate.  :o A President cannot be seen as weak to the people of the country nor to our allies. And if he is seen as weak to our adversaries overseas, then they could take advantage of us in some way.
So.......what Trump did was a lot of political grandstanding. But he also cannot be seen as weak either.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 07, 2020, 12:57:41 pm
Kobuk, there's a  real difference between what President trump did and those before him. Those before him did it to keep a strong image of America to both this country and the world. Trump did it to mock a virus that has killed well over 200.000 people in this country. His actions are not one of a hero. His actions make him a murderer.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 07, 2020, 01:10:36 pm
Another thing I don't like is Trump canceling the stimulus talks.  >:( Granted, they were only moving at a snail's pace before Trump stopped them, but they were still moving nonetheless.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/politics/stimulus-negotiations-latest/index.html

IMO, I see this tactic as nothing more than an attempt to get re-elected. It's like Trump saying "You want to continue the talks? You want more money? Then re-elect me!".

It's kind of like the way a person holds out their hand to give another person something. The second person reaches for it, the first person suddenly pulls their hand back and refuses to give the item to the second person unless the second person does something for the first.

Will what Trump did hurt the economy and/or his reelection chances? I don't know. On the latter, possibly. A lot of people and businesses need help. After seeing what Trump did, they may not be so willing to reelect him. But, we'll have to see how this all plays out.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 07, 2020, 08:41:50 pm
The Vice Presidential debate starts tonight. I got the popcorn ready. Did anybody bring the drinks?  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on October 07, 2020, 08:50:16 pm
Kobuk, there's a  real difference between what President trump did and those before him. Those before him did it to keep a strong image of America to both this country and the world. Trump did it to mock a virus that has killed well over 200.000 people in this country. His actions are not one of a hero. His actions make him a murderer.

I wouldn't even give him that much credit. I believe Trump worries more about what the american people think of him, namely his cult of followers, than any outside nation. Frankly I think every other country knows we don't have so much as a strong president as we have one that is a total lunatic.

There's a big difference between past presidents who project a sense of strength and Trump. Guys like Jimmy Carter, Kennedy, Reagan, Nixon, even Bush the older put out this sense of "I'm pretty sure this guy is someone to watch out for." who makes america look like the neighborhood strongman who will pound a bully into the dirt. Then you have the annoying orange who projects a sense "This guy is bat$&!% insane. Let's not rile the escapee from the funny farm." who in turn makes america look like the stereotypical shotgun toting drunken loudmouthed redneck who'll blow your head off if you insult him.

Trump's whole thing is about making himself look like the greatest thing to happen on earth he's the quintessential "fake it till you make it" con man just making it up as he goes along.
I very much doubt Trump had the idea of making america look strong when he took off his mask, I think his only concern was getting his followers to think "Trump's so good heat corona in a couple days!" just so they'll reelect him.

but that's my own opinion and speculation. I could be wrong. I don't think I am but I could be.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 08, 2020, 04:08:57 am
There is something to be said about confidence, unfortunately it won't do you much good if you don't do anything to actually solve the problem.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 08, 2020, 04:14:49 am
Trump should be taking notes from Mike Pence on how to properly debate.  I think that they both made good points. The moderator was a joke though. Yelling " Mr. Vice president" isn't moderating. At lesst it was better than Chris Wallace who was just adding fuel to the fire.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 08, 2020, 11:05:21 am
The VP debate was actually more civil this time.......almost. I could say a lot about last night's debate. But I think the best part......and the winner......of the debate last night was the fly that landed on Pence's head.  :D :D :D  That was the best part of the debate last night. We all know that flies are attracted to trash and dung, and last night proved it!  :D

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/08/mike-pence-fly-on-head-debate-sot-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 08, 2020, 12:20:51 pm
Trump has often lamented in past years that he deserves a Nobel Prize. Frankly, I can't see him winning one........for anything. But if he did, I'd be very shocked and surprised. The Nobel Prize for Peace is to be awarded tomorrow. Would Trump get one for the peace negotiations and developments that have been taking place in the Middle East? I don't know. The criteria for selecting who gets a Nobel Prize and so forth is very long and complicated. And the list of contenders is equally long.

https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 08, 2020, 01:08:43 pm

26 Days left, and the debate showed the VP as disrespectful, nearly as much
as Trump was. Yes both skipped questions, but the VP seemed to do it much more
than Harris. As most GOP politicians  the VP would not shut up, it seems they are
afraid the public might believe the Democrats instead.  So they go on and on, just as
the VP did last night. Even over the top of the moderator.

To me the VP seemed tired, and even a bit hoarse. Could it be he is infected, and
hiding it? Only time will tell if this is the case.

The Trump administration still won't put their health care plan out for the public to see.
Even after 4 years. I have a hunch it's because it's just a return to the old way, where
people with health issues  can't get affordable insurance, and even if they can, it's so
expensive many people can't afford it. So once the ACA is gone over 100 million with health problems will be without health insurance, and another 20 million will lose
affordable insurance as well. 

The next debate is to be a virtual one, but Trump knowing it would be almost
impossible for him to dominate with constant interruptions, he has said he would be a
no show. Apparently afraid to be in a debate where he could be forced to follow the
rules. He seems to think debates should be a fight instead of a discussion between
two civilized people. Unless he changes his mind, he claims he will have a rally
instead. It will be interesting to  see how many show up in front of a man that is
likely infected with covid19.

Sadly he has decided that he has been cured of covid19. It this was the case it would
be the very first, as science has not found a cure yet, much less a dependable
treatment. Trump doesn't even want to release his latest test results. Perhaps because
it will show his claim that he is cured to be a lie. It is interesting that each time he is on
a video he has a lot of makeup. Could it be he is trying to hide his real appearance.

If Trump is still infected and contagious, he should continue his quarantine, and not
put people at risk by traveling. But no, it's about him and his ego, and no one else.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,600,000 and deaths are over 212,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 36,000,000 and over 1,015,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 08, 2020, 01:44:29 pm

26 Days left, and the debate showed the VP as disrespectful, nearly as much
as Trump was. Yes both skipped questions, but the VP seemed to do it much more
than Harris. As most GOP politicians  the VP would not shut up, it seems they are
afraid the public might believe the Democrats instead.  So they go on and on, just as
the VP did last night. Even over the top of the moderator.

To me the VP seemed tired, and even a bit hoarse. Could it be he is infected, and
hiding it? Only time will tell if this is the case.

The Trump administration still won't put their health care plan out for the public to see.
Even after 4 years. I have a hunch it's because it's just a return to the old way, where
people with health issues  can't get affordable insurance, and even if they can, it's so
expensive many people can't afford it. So once the ACA is gone over 100 million with health problems will be without health insurance, and another 20 million will lose
affordable insurance as well. 

The next debate is to be a virtual one, but Trump knowing it would be almost
impossible for him to dominate with constant interruptions, he has said he would be a
no show. Apparently afraid to be in a debate where he could be forced to follow the
rules. He seems to think debates should be a fight instead of a discussion between
two civilized people. Unless he changes his mind, he claims he will have a rally
instead. It will be interesting to  see how many show up in front of a man that is
likely infected with covid19.

Sadly he has decided that he has been cured of covid19. It this was the case it would
be the very first, as science has not found a cure yet, much less a dependable
treatment. Trump doesn't even want to release his latest test results. Perhaps because
it will show his claim that he is cured to be a lie. It is interesting that each time he is on
a video he has a lot of makeup. Could it be he is trying to hide his real appearance.

If Trump is still infected and contagious, he should continue his quarantine, and not
put people at risk by traveling. But no, it's about him and his ego, and no one else.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,600,000 and deaths are over 212,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 36,000,000 and over 1,015,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
You are entitled to your opinion but to claim that this debate was as bad as the last one is simply beyond me. In fact, according to a fact check I saw, Hariss lied twice much as Pence. She was caught completely red handed when she outright lied about fracking. I am going to do some more research to confirm this. Also she refused to answer the question about filling the court which I found disgusting. Also, people love to talk about how divisive the GOP is. Now tell me, on the final question, which answer do you thinkencouraged more division?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 08, 2020, 02:29:00 pm
Hans. Are you trying to say that four years of blatant white supremacy support can be equal to a few questions?
Let me ask you a few questions then.

A member of a white supremacy group runs over and kills protesters. President trump said he was in the right. Good or bad?
A white supremacy group is known for attacking and beating up people. ANTIF stepped in and stopped them. President trump calls ANTIFA a terrorist group. Good or bad?
People are being brutalized and killed for the color of their skin. So these people protest with signs saying "Black Lives Matter". President trump calls black lives matter a terrorist group. Good or bad?

There is plenty more examples of our President supporting white supremacy. How about the fact that he refused to call out 'The Proud Boys' in his last debate? He later had to be forced to so he would look good.

So please tell me how a few questions is as divisive as four years of blatant support for white supremacy? I would LOVE to hear your answer.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 08, 2020, 04:20:44 pm
Hans. Are you trying to say that four years of blatant white supremacy support can be equal to a few questions?
Let me ask you a few questions then.

A member of a white supremacy group runs over and kills protesters. President trump said he was in the right. Good or bad?
A white supremacy group is known for attacking and beating up people. ANTIF stepped in and stopped them. President trump calls ANTIFA a terrorist group. Good or bad?
People are being brutalized and killed for the color of their skin. So these people protest with signs saying "Black Lives Matter". President trump calls black lives matter a terrorist group. Good or bad?

There is plenty more examples of our President supporting white supremacy. How about the fact that he refused to call out 'The Proud Boys' in his last debate? He later had to be forced to so he would look good.

So please tell me how a few questions is as divisive as four years of blatant support for white supremacy? I would LOVE to hear your answer.

Let's take this one by one.

1.  I assume you are talking about the Charlottesville protest.  Watch the full conference and not the one cherry picked quote without context. Here is the link https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs
He was talking about the nonviolent protesters who were peacefully protesting against the removal of the statue. He said both sides have very fine people. He Literally condemned neo nazis and white supremacists and called them troublemakers and made the distinction between the 2 groups in the next sentence. This is a very good example of how the media likes to spin the truth so it will align with their agenda.

2.I am not familiar with this incident. Assuming what you say is true, then yes, what they did was a good thing HOWEVER Antifa's leaders encourage violence. They are the ones responsible for the burning and looting, not the right wing and therefore, I thing it was the right thing to label antifa a terrorist group.

3. You have to differentiate between BLM the idea and BLM the orginazation. I agree and I am confident that most of my fellow conservatives agree with the idea that black lives matter no more and no less then other lives. Then you have the organisation that like antifa, also encourages violence. In addition there are reports that BLM is using the proceeds from their donations to fill the pockets of themselves and politicians. They have been very reluctant in telling the public where the proceeds go to and it is still very unclear.

4. Proud boys is not a white supremecist  group FACT. In fact, their leader is black. They are a anti communism and neo fascist group. I don't agree with their ideology but to say that they are white supremacists is just plain wrong. Don't blindly believe everything the media says.

I hope that this is enough. Personally, the conclusion that I have made front this is that it isn't Trump and the GOP that is responsible for the division. It is the media. Why do they do this? Well it is very simple. They make money from it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 08, 2020, 08:17:15 pm
Republicans claim that Democrats are packing the Supreme Court.
Democrats claim that Republicans are packing the Supreme court.

So who's right? Well, they both are. But the Republicans do it more. ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_appointment_history_for_United_States_federal_courts#Supreme_Court

Look at the very first 2 charts for the Supreme Court. Particuarly for the years 1976-2008. Now if that isn't "packing" the Supreme Court, especially by Republicans, then I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 08, 2020, 09:15:42 pm
Somehow, I don't think this Bill is going to get very far.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/politics/house-oversight-commission-president-health/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 09, 2020, 01:39:20 am
First off No. President trump has supported the Proud Boys. Just like his refusal to call them out during the debate. Then forced to afterwards. That is the truth.
article
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/proud-boys-arrest-trump-stand-by_n_5f74ac08c5b66377b27c1edd (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/proud-boys-arrest-trump-stand-by_n_5f74ac08c5b66377b27c1edd)

And as for ANTIFA. Wrong again. ANTIFA is not a violent organization. They where formed to stand between violent groups and protesters. The proud boys have always been a violent group. Got time? Google proud boys arrest. Yes there have been a few incidences by and hand full of people in ANTIFA.
As far as ANTIFA goes.
article.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/10/51-protesters-facing-federal-charges-yet-no-sign-of-antifa-involvement/#597b0a964138 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/10/51-protesters-facing-federal-charges-yet-no-sign-of-antifa-involvement/#597b0a964138)

Black Lives Mater is not, nor has it ever been an organization. Trump as falsely called it an organization and a terrorist group. Right wing media has done the same. The republican party has done the same. Blatant racist act. Call it a terrorist group and ignore the real issue.

There is the truth. Then there is right wing media.
Here's the difference between them.
January.
Media: Covid 19 is a deadly virus that is killing people.
Right wing media: Covid 19  no deadlier than the flue
February.
Media: Covid 19 has hospitalized thousands. Leading to mass graves of unclaimed bodies. Schools are closing to help keep the virus from spreading faster.
Right wing media: Covid 19 is a hoax their using to attack trump. Media and liberals are spreading fear.
March
Media: Local governments are closing businesses and public gatherings of any kind to try to keep the virus from spreading faster.
Right wing media: We never called the virus a hoax. Yet we are still going to downplay the virus and call all this unnecessary and over reactions by democrats and liberals.

So you have no right in saying that all media is spreading lies. The republican party, trump and the right wing media live and depend on them. Remember 'alternate facts'. What media stood behind that lie.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 09, 2020, 03:39:09 am
Republicans claim that Democrats are packing the Supreme Court.
Democrats claim that Republicans are packing the Supreme court.

So who's right? Well, they both are. But the Republicans do it more. ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_appointment_history_for_United_States_federal_courts#Supreme_Court

Look at the very first 2 charts for the Supreme Court. Particuarly for the years 1976-2008. Now if that isn't "packing" the Supreme Court, especially by Republicans, then I don't know what is.
You are talking about replacing justices. Packing the court means to add seats so they can make it a democratic majority. The number of seats has not been changed in 150 years and Biden is refusing to tell people if he will do that. He says that you will find out after the election.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 09, 2020, 09:58:35 am
First off No. President trump has supported the Proud Boys. Just like his refusal to call them out during the debate. Then forced to afterwards. That is the truth.
article
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/proud-boys-arrest-trump-stand-by_n_5f74ac08c5b66377b27c1edd (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/proud-boys-arrest-trump-stand-by_n_5f74ac08c5b66377b27c1edd)

And as for ANTIFA. Wrong again. ANTIFA is not a violent organization. They where formed to stand between violent groups and protesters. The proud boys have always been a violent group. Got time? Google proud boys arrest. Yes there have been a few incidences by and hand full of people in ANTIFA.
As far as ANTIFA goes.
article.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/10/51-protesters-facing-federal-charges-yet-no-sign-of-antifa-involvement/#597b0a964138 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/10/51-protesters-facing-federal-charges-yet-no-sign-of-antifa-involvement/#597b0a964138)

Black Lives Mater is not, nor has it ever been an organization. Trump as falsely called it an organization and a terrorist group. Right wing media has done the same. The republican party has done the same. Blatant racist act. Call it a terrorist group and ignore the real issue.

There is the truth. Then there is right wing media.
Here's the difference between them.
January.
Media: Covid 19 is a deadly virus that is killing people.
Right wing media: Covid 19  no deadlier than the flue
February.
Media: Covid 19 has hospitalized thousands. Leading to mass graves of unclaimed bodies. Schools are closing to help keep the virus from spreading faster.
Right wing media: Covid 19 is a hoax their using to attack trump. Media and liberals are spreading fear.
March
Media: Local governments are closing businesses and public gatherings of any kind to try to keep the virus from spreading faster.
Right wing media: We never called the virus a hoax. Yet we are still going to downplay the virus and call all this unnecessary and over reactions by democrats and liberals.

So you have no right in saying that all media is spreading lies. The republican party, trump and the right wing media live and depend on them. Remember 'alternate facts'. What media stood behind that lie.

1. It is not entirely clear what Trump meant when he said stand by and stand down. By the standard defiition that means to disengage but be ready to reengage. Regardless of what he meant, the proud boys took that literally so I can't really defend trump on that, however, to claim that he supports white  supremecists is just plain wrong.

2. Antifa is a decentralized movement so it's very difficult  to pinpoint what exactly their ideology is. However, to claim that they are not violent is ridicoulus. There are countless instances of people  who may be linked to antifa threatening and using violence. Just check the wikipedia page.

3. It's obvious you haven't done your research here. BLM is a orginazation. They even have website that says that they are an orginazation. While you are there, you can also make a donation that may or may not go directly to their leaders and various politicians pockets.
Here it is
https://blacklivesmatter.com/

The leader of the new york chapter also said that they will burn down the system.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-leader-if-change-doesnt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/

4.Let me fix this for you. There is media and then there is media that has a bias and spins and twists the truth so they will make more money. This applies to both right and left wing media. Don't lecture me oen the right wing media until you fix the left wing media. Here a just a few examples of the lies they told the american people.

https://www.gainesvilletimes.com/opinion/letter-editor/opinion-here-are-plenty-examples-media-bias/
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 09, 2020, 10:50:49 am
Well, Trump didn't get that Nobel Peace prize that he's been wanting for so long. Sucks to be him.  :D

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/world/nobel-peace-prize-winner-2020-intl/index.html


All media is a lie to some degree. The question is, Who's doing the lying?
The photographer/cameraman out in the field?
The reporter holding the microphone doing his/her report and asking questions?
The people in the sound/editing booths back at the studio?
The head honcho CEO who owns the media ?
Or somebody else?

As an old phrase kinda goes: The "brown stuff" falls downhill. We all know that media is about ratings and money. Make a news report spectacular enough and people will watch it and believe in it and that will drive the ratings. But who's pushing for that? Certainly not the cameraman holding the camera? Everything flows downhill from the top to the bottom. IMO, it's the big honcho Execs. who are making the media to be what it is. Not necessarily always the lowly camera people, staffers, desk reporters, etc.

Not all media is fake/false.
Is the weather fake?
How about sports?
Travel & Leisure?
Cooking and Home life?
Entertainment?

There probably are some reporters who do want to get the truth out for a news story. But in some way they can't because their bosses above them say to change this story or this fact to make it more "entertaining" to the wider audience.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 09, 2020, 10:55:32 am
Well, Trump didn't get that Nobel Peace prize that he's been wanting for so long. Sucks to be him.  :D

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/world/nobel-peace-prize-winner-2020-intl/index.html


All media is a lie to some degree. The question is, Who's doing the lying?
The photographer/cameraman out in the field?
The reporter holding the microphone doing his/her report and asking questions?
The people in the sound/editing booths back at the studio?
The head honcho CEO who owns the media ?
Or somebody else?

As an old phrase kinda goes: The "brown stuff" falls downhill. We all know that media is about ratings and money. Make a news report spectacular enough and people will watch it and believe in it and that will drive the ratings. But who's pushing for that? Certainly not the cameraman holding the camera? Everything flows downhill from the top to the bottom. IMO, it's the big honcho Execs. who are media to be what it is. Not necessarily always the lowly camera people, staffers, desk reporters, etc.

Not all media is fake/false.
Is the weather fake?
How about sports?
Travel & Leisure?
Cooking and Home life?
Entertainment?

There probably are some reporters who do want to get the truth out for a news story. But in some way they can't because their bosses above them say to change this story or this fact to make it more "entertaining" to the wider audience.
Very true. The question is how do you fix such a problem. Not everybody knows how to factcheck and do there own research. Do you have the government control the media? That wouldn't be any better. Ultimately, I believe the media has to be held accountable , but how?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 09, 2020, 01:04:34 pm

25 Days to go, and even though he coughs  during an interview, Trump claims he is at the
top of health. Not just once, and more than a clearing of this throat. I don't think Biden or
those who work for him, should be around Trump or anyone who works for Trump either. I
wouldn't put it past Trump to try to infect one of Biden's staff.

I sometimes wonder after years of misinformation, will those who support Trump. ever will
accept the facts. People caught up in cults like Trump has created  find it very hard to accept
the possibility they have been lied to. Perhaps if Trump is removed, the GOP will come around
and be honest, but I am afraid even then they won't admit their wrong doing.

This terrible attempt by a terrorist group to kidnapped the governor of Michigan  shows
to what ends people will go, when they put too much faith in conspiracy theories. I really
don't think  Trump understands the danger he is putting our country in with all his lies and
conspiracies.  All he cares about is keeping the power of the presidency. 

Trump is all but begging his attorney general to indict Joe Biden and  Obama. Claiming
they spied on his campaign, though after several investigations by the GOP, no evidence
has been found to  prove Trump's claims.  I think the AG knows this lie by Trump wouldn't
go anywhere, and doesn't want to tie himself to it. Yet Trump knows by the time  Biden was
found innocent, the damage might help Trump stay in office. So we can be sure Trump will continue
to pressure his AG.

Too bad for Trump, though he expected a Nobel Peace  prize. he missed the boat. If he had agreed to
resign for one, I would say give it to him.
 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,600,000 and deaths are over 213,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 36,200,000 and over  1,015,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 09, 2020, 05:51:22 pm
Quote
Very true. The question is how do you fix such a problem. Not everybody knows how to factcheck and do there own research. Do you have the government control the media? That wouldn't be any better. Ultimately, I believe the media has to be held accountable , but how?

I wish I knew. But I don't have an answer. :( The only thing I can think of is to "re-invent" so to speak the way college journalism classes are taught. Other than that, maybe put some sort of penalties on news execs. and/or reporters who report false news?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 10, 2020, 12:32:23 pm
Quote
Very true. The question is how do you fix such a problem. Not everybody knows how to factcheck and do there own research. Do you have the government control the media? That wouldn't be any better. Ultimately, I believe the media has to be held accountable , but how?

I wish I knew. But I don't have an answer. :( The only thing I can think of is to "re-invent" so to speak the way college journalism classes are taught. Other than that, maybe put some sort of penalties on news execs. and/or reporters who report false news?
Who would do that? The government?
Then they could just censor whatever they want.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 10, 2020, 12:38:08 pm
I was confident that trump would win even though the polls show otherwise. Now I'm not so sure. It wilI take something really big to change things. I feel like the country will go to crap whatever happens.  it's so bad, you may as well not even try. There is a reseon the the US has become the laughing stock of the world in the last few decades.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 10, 2020, 01:25:07 pm

24 Days left, and Trump is asking his secretary of state to release H. Clinton's emails. So why is Trump
returning to his 2016 campaign? She isn't running for any political office this time around. Some feel he
is just trying to make all Democrats look bad. Then again it's just more of his craziness caused by his
poor showing in the polls.

If his AG Barr fails to arrest Biden and Obama, will Trump replace Barr with a man who will?  I think he
just might if the polls don't show him gaining on Biden over the next week or two.

The supporters of Trump want to believe the left is just as bad as white supremacists, but people  should follow
the violence. Look to see who is actually killing people. Who are shooting the police? Look to see who is hiding
behind umbrellas, and black clothing. People who are up to no good will always want to hide their face.

Trump announce he was pulling all of our troops from Afghanistan by Christmas. A move  catching our
military totally off guard. The last thing we should do is to tell those who oppose us when we are leaving.
Trump claimed in the past he would never give advance warning of our military movements. So Trump is
obviously putting politics above the safety of our troops.

During the VP debate the VP claimed the Democrats wanted to pack the courts. This was hypocritical
since the GOP has been doing nothing ever since Trump took office, but pack the courts with conservatives,
and this latest nomination to the  supreme court is the third conservative Trump has given to the GOP.
A party who knows only the courts can give them, or help get rid of the laws they hate. Because they
are in the minority, and know the majority population is against them.

Reports show one of Trump's treatments included stem cells which were
harvested  from fetuses gained through abortions. Can we assume the
right to life crowd would be happy to hear this? Who can say, many of
Trump's supporters forgive him for about anything to get what they
want.

Though over 7 out of 10 people want to keep the ACA, Trump
is still trying to get rid of it. Even after he got very special
treatment. Treatment no one else could get, and cost him
nothing, but his time.  So if government health care is good
for the president, why isn't it good for the rest of us.

We should wonder why doesn't Trump want to release his covid19 tests.
He claims he has been cured, so why not prove it? I think his claim is
a lie, so he plays it's the none of your business game.

Trump claims the Democrats want to take our guns. This is a lie, because it
would take a constitutional amendment to do so, and that would take a
2/3 vote by all the states. That after a 2/3 vote of both houses of congress
to even start the process.


Trump calls the News fake, and should only believe him. Well I only believe what
he does, not what he says, because the truth isn't in him. I think any news
organization that has trouble bringing members of the GOP on, must be
doing something right. Especially when that member of the GOP who does
show up, is only there to make a speech, and never answered reasonable
questions, instead they just  run off at the mouth trying to convince
people they should support the GOP and Trump.  News outfit that
only asks questions that the GOP and Trump is  willing to answer
isn't at all reliable in my opinion.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,700,000 and deaths are over 215,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 36,800,000 and over 1,018,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 10, 2020, 09:12:13 pm
During the VP debate the VP claimed the Democrats wanted "to pack the courts. This was hypocritical
since the GOP has been doing nothing ever since Trump took office, but pack the courts with conservatives,
and this latest nomination to the  supreme court is the third conservative Trump has given to the GOP.
A party who knows only the courts can give them, or help get rid of the laws they hate. Because they
are in the minority, and know the majority population is against them."

I am not going to criticize your opinions but that is not packing the court. It is the presidents duty to replace justices. Packing the court means to add seats which hasn't been done in 150 years. Joe Biden has literally said that voters don't deserve to know what he will do.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 10, 2020, 10:01:00 pm
https://apnews.com/a9b581897fff3c034d8fa838a2eb0768

The latest news.

It is also looking more hopefull that Trunp might win. Experts say that whoever wins PA will win the elction. Bidem is still leading in the  polls but only by 5 percentages and reports are saying that support for trump in PA is growing.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 10, 2020, 11:25:29 pm
I'm not as trusting as you seem to be concerning Trump's Covid condition. I have my doubts. I suspect the doctor was "pressured" to give Trump a clean bill of health. Trump wants to do anything to get back on the campaign trail. Even if it would mean having his doctors falsify reports and stuff.

As for polls, swing states, etc., I would take that with a grain of salt. A lot of people, polls, news reports, etc. would like to "put the cart before the horse" so to speak and say that Trump will come out on top and win this election. But we really won't know until Nov. 3rd. Not beforehand. Will Trump win in November? It's hard to say for sure. Some people are saying that we could still have another repeat of 2016 where the popular vote went to Biden, but the Electoral vote went to Trump. If that happens, it's because the Repubs pulled every dirty trick in the voting book to get Trump reelected.  >:( It's not the Democrats who are "rigging" the election. It's the Repubs who are making voting harder and doing whatever they can in any way they can to secure a second term for Trump. (And let's not forget Russian meddling too!)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 11, 2020, 12:43:58 pm
Well so much for the conspiracy theories that Trump and the GOP was behind the attempted kidnapping of governer Whitmar. Turns out that they were anti government and anti police extremists.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 11, 2020, 01:18:51 pm

23 Days left, and we should ask, after claiming he feels better than he has in 20 years, why did
Trump only speak 18 minutes to a group on the white house lawn. When he nearly always speaks
for over an hour?  His on a leash doctor claims he is safe to be around, but why is Trump afraid  to
release his test results? As usual Trump hides anything he is afraid  to show the public.

The New York Times has been publishing Trump's tax information, information Trump has been working
so hard to hide. It appears Trump has likely broken election laws as well as tax laws.  So it's not surprising
why he is so afraid of  losing this election. Because once out of office he can be dragged  into a court of law
where he will likely be sent to jail for the rest of his life.

It seems when the members of the GOP get on TV all they do is complain about how bad the news media
treats Trump, and their party. They should  be telling the public about the health plan that is so much better
than the ACA they want to replace. They should be telling the public when they plan to sen relief the people
who desperately need it. But no they just want to  please Trump and his cult instead of doing their job. They
better hope if the Democrats ever get 2/3 control of the Senate, because if they do, many of those idiot conservative
judges the GOP put on courts will be removed, and that includes the supreme court justices too.

Trump wants to claim he has found a cure for covid19, but each man or woman who catches the virus  has a different
response. There was an  80 year old set of twins who hardly got sick at all from the virus, and that was months ago. So
just because Trump appears to be doing well, may have little to do with a possible cure, or even a good treatment.

Almost 10 million people have voted absent T already, At this rate there may be over 30 million by the end of the
month. Perhaps even more. Last reports show most of these voters are Democrats. So it will likely be at least
a week after election day, before the total vote count is  known. Unfortunately  we can expect Trump to be
crying foul all the way unless he is winning. I hope people  won't let Trump supporters try to bully them away
from the polls. Hopefully Democrats  will be there  to  stand with voters against GOP bullies.  One good thing is
 thousands of volunteers are showing  up to be poll workers this year. So it's going to be much harder for the GOP to claim they don't have  enough workers to open all polling places.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,700,000 and deaths are over 216,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 36,900,000 and over 1,017,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on October 12, 2020, 06:28:53 am
As for polls, swing states, etc., I would take that with a grain of salt. A lot of people, polls, news reports, etc. would like to "put the cart before the horse" so to speak and say that Trump will come out on top and win this election. But we really won't know until Nov. 3rd. Not beforehand. Will Trump win in November? It's hard to say for sure. Some people are saying that we could still have another repeat of 2016 where the popular vote went to Biden, but the Electoral vote went to Trump. If that happens, it's because the Repubs pulled every dirty trick in the voting book to get Trump reelected.  >:( It's not the Democrats who are "rigging" the election. It's the Repubs who are making voting harder and doing whatever they can in any way they can to secure a second term for Trump. (And let's not forget Russian meddling too!)

Also don't forget that it actually takes a very long time to count all the ballots. We won't know the actual outcome of the election until some time after "election day" and it's possible that the trump ballots might show him in an early lead, trump declares himself the winner and then later on after everything has been counted if it turns out trump didn't actually win he's likely to throw a hissy fit and scream "fraud". He's made it very clear that even if he does lose the election he will not go quietly. I fully believe that if left to his own devices he'd glue himself in the oval office and tell his followers to start shooting like it's a new civil war because he ain't leaving.

I mean I would hope that this moron doesn't try to spark off a civil war but I wouldn't past him to have considered it a viable option.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 12, 2020, 11:12:50 am
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He's made it very clear that even if he does lose the election he will not go quietly. I fully believe that if left to his own devices he'd glue himself in the oval office and tell his followers to start shooting like it's a new civil war because he ain't leaving.

I mean I would hope that this moron doesn't try to spark off a civil war but I wouldn't past him to have considered it a viable option.

That's what I'm afraid of. This has been one of the most divisive and partisan times times in American history. All it takes is just one spark.......one spark......to set off the powderkeg and create a second Civil War. I hope it never happens. But with Trump and his supporters, anything is possible.

Abraham Lincoln once said: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

It's bad enough people are upset about the coronavirus situation. Look what happened in Michigan and the plot to kidnap the governor of that state.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/11/us/michigan-whitmer-plot/index.html

Now imagine something similar to that with every far right (and/or far left) gun toting nutjob facing off against each other declaring that their candidate was the rightful winner.  :o Not a pretty sight.

Even our own military has said in various news reports that they will not get involved in settling an election dispute. They have repeatedly said it is up to the courts to decide the outcome.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 12, 2020, 12:53:27 pm

22 Days left, and the senate is shamelessly working to appoint a supreme court
justice without waiting to see who the people choose for president  in just a few
days. It's likely not only to get rid of the ACA, Abortion, voting rights, and it's very
likely to decide the election if Trump doesn't win outright. For many years the GOP
has become a party grasping for power, instead of one that serves the people, and
this appointment is being done to give the GOP even more control. Control that can't
achieve any other way, except through the courts.

Sadly the GOP continues to work for smaller government and it matters not
who it hurts. Moscow Mitch  complained about all the money Democrats were
raising through small donations. It seems the GOP is falling behind, even with the
help of their rich friends.   

The main reason the GOP wants this person for a justice, is to get rid of the
ACA. They have tried over 70 times to remove this bill since it was passed.
over 10 years ago. The GOP not only wants to get rid of the ACA, they want
to get rid of all social programs that  benefits the people.It's unfortunate that
the people don't seem to realize what the GOP is really up to. I fear they will let
the GOP do their dirty work, then wonder what happened, but by then it will be
too late. It's sad, but it seems people have to suffer befer they wake up.

If you have health issues they are coming for you. If your Gay they are coming for you
if your a woman they are coming for you, if your a person of color they are coming  for you,
if your handicapped they are coming for you.  So call your senator, vote early, but vote for
your own protection. The GOP and Trump care nothing for you no matter what they claim.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 7,800,000 and deaths are over216,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 37,700,000 and over 1,019,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 12, 2020, 05:27:43 pm
The first day of Barrett's confirmation hearing is over. Still more days to go yet.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/10/politics/affordable-care-act-amy-coney-barrett-obamacare/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/politics/amy-coney-barrett-hearing-takeaways-monday/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/politics/democrats-health-care-supreme-court-hearing/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/12/politics/barrett-supreme-court-hearing-day-one/index.html

The first day mostly concerned Barrett's position on Obamacare (Affordable Care Act).

This is just my opinion, but I sincerely hope the ACA is not gutted by the Supreme Court/Republicans. Too many Americans have enrolled in it and are relying on it for medical care/coverage. If it goes, what the hell are they supposed to turn to? Trump has said he has a replacement health care plan, but has given no specifics. IMO, it's all a bunch of "hot air" coming out of his mouth. If Obamacare is so bad as Repubs allege, then why not just fix the parts within that are broken without gutting the whole thing? And also don't get rid of the ACA without first having something to replace it.

Regardless of how good or bad the ACA is, people need something. Especially in this time of the coronavirus pandemic. Good health coverage is better than bad health coverage. And bad health coverage is better than no health coverage at all. If the Supreme Court and/or Repubs gut the entire ACA, then watch as the American populace votes out nearly every Repub for years to come.

Think of it this way:
The Democrats are offering a first-aid kit. It may not be the best or it may be missing some stuff, but it's better than nothing.
The Republicans are offering a band-aid and a lollipop and telling you it will get better.

Which would you rather have?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 12, 2020, 07:16:35 pm
https://www.healthline.com/health/consumer-healthcare-guide/pros-and-cons-obamacare.
It's definetely done both good things and bad things.  It's certainly made healthcare more affordable. But you have to remember that the idea of the government imposing something is against the core conservative ideology which is why many are against it. It's not just that conservatives are evil and don't care about others. Trump says that his plan will provide more freedom. I still need to do more research on it though.

And. about the supreme court, The dems on the comitee seem a bit confused. The court is not a legislator and their duty is to interperet the law. Not talk about political opinions. They have no right to be bringing stuff like this up during a scotus justice hearing.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 13, 2020, 02:05:25 pm
Well trump is holding mass rallies again. I guess he didn't learn his lesson.
On another note, the way ACB is getting treated at the hearing is disgusting. They are attacking her because if her faith, backround, everything. It's absoulutely abhorent. I like the way sen. Cruz put it
https://youtu.be/pt1Xp8zYPNE

This is nothing but a power grab. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 14, 2020, 02:34:18 pm
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 14, 2020, 02:48:37 pm
This is for the people who claim that the radical left isn't violent.
https://www.fox9.com/news/feds-investigating-suspicious-fire-at-brooklyn-center-home-with-trump-2020-sign

How do you know it's the radical left's fault? There was nothing in that article to even suggest the fire was started by the radical left, Antifa, or any other left group. Police said they are still investigating the incident.

Don't automatically assume a certain person, group, organization, etc. is to blame.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 15, 2020, 05:38:36 pm
Is this Trump and the White House's new strategy for coronavirus?  :o God, I certainly hope not. We all know that Trump is trying to play down the effects of coronavirus. But to think herd immunity will save people is just reckless.  >:(

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/opinions/white-house-herd-immunity-reckless-idea-sachs/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 15, 2020, 10:42:59 pm
I tuned in more to Biden's Town Hall tonight instead of Trump's. At least Biden's was more civilized. Trump's town hall was more like a repeat of the first debate. Except the "combat" wasn't with Biden, it was with the moderator.........who couldn't seem to get the town hall under control. :(  From what I've read and seen of Trump's town hall, Trump was sounding like a broken record just repeating lies and baseless crap over and over and over and over and over and over...... :P :P :P
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on October 16, 2020, 02:10:43 am
Is this Trump and the White House's new strategy for coronavirus?  :o God, I certainly hope not. We all know that Trump is trying to play down the effects of coronavirus. But to think herd immunity will save people is just reckless.  >:(

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/opinions/white-house-herd-immunity-reckless-idea-sachs/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
Anyone who thinks herd immunity is gonna save lives doesn't understand what it is they're calling for.
In order for the herd to gain an immunity you need all of the people who aren't immune to DIE.
And quick sidebar here, it's been shown that getting covid doesn't make you immune for life.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 16, 2020, 05:11:41 am
We just had two town hall meetings for president at the same time? What? Absolutely  disgusted with this. I have no words to say that will vent how angry I am right now. There is no way anyone could view this as anything less than an attempt to keep America separated. What is wrong with this country of ours? This is just shy of hypocrisy of our electoral system. Making you choose who to watch instead of giving you the opportunity to see both? Absolutely horrified at this. The only way a voter will get to see both is by watching the one you didn't watch on tv on line? Absolutely irresponsible. There are millions of American voters who don't have internet access.

NBC should be boycotted at all costs. Turn it off. Keep it off. This is as irresponsible as tampering with the election itself.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 16, 2020, 10:27:39 am
https://youtu.be/xT-3ZPMw3_o

Senate Judiciary Cmte to Vote to Subpoena Jack Dorsey
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 16, 2020, 10:32:43 am
I tuned in more to Biden's Town Hall tonight instead of Trump's. At least Biden's was more civilized. Trump's town hall was more like a repeat of the first debate. Except the "combat" wasn't with Biden, it was with the moderator.........who couldn't seem to get the town hall under control. :(  From what I've read and seen of Trump's town hall, Trump was sounding like a broken record just repeating lies and baseless crap over and over and over and over and over and over...... :P :P :P
The debate was pretty bad but I was actually surprised how well he behaved at the town hall. The moderater actually interrupted him almost every sentence. She seemed to think it was a debate.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 17, 2020, 02:38:20 pm
I hope Old Rabbit is ok. I haven't seen him post the last 2-3 days. He's generally pretty consistant in his thread here.

In other news.........
Trump is in BIG legal trouble if he loses the election.  :o
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/politics/trump-election-legal-reckoning/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 17, 2020, 04:50:07 pm
They are all so corrupt. Trump with the things you mentioned and Biden with Ukraine and burisma. Why can't we seems to nominate a normal, honest candidate for once.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 17, 2020, 10:41:49 pm
Still fuming over NBS's blatant town hall timing. Now learned that despite the rules stating that all audience members should be non decided voters we got the 'nodding head lady'. Turns out she ran for office as a trump supporter. It's no surprise. Trump and his team can't be honest about a single thing. Why be honest with America during an even that was supposed to be unbiased.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 17, 2020, 11:14:27 pm
They are all so corrupt. Trump with the things you mentioned and Biden with Ukraine and burisma. Why can't we seems to nominate a normal, honest candidate for once.

You just answered your own question.  :D


Still fuming over NBS's blatant town hall timing. Now learned that despite the rules stating that all audience members should be non decided voters we got the 'nodding head lady'. Turns out she ran for office as a trump supporter. It's no surprise. Trump and his team can't be honest about a single thing. Why be honest with America during an even that was supposed to be unbiased.

About that nodding woman........
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/16/mayra-joli-trump-town-hall-nodding-woman-keilar-sot-crn-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 18, 2020, 03:16:06 am
They clearly said that there would be trump supporters, biden supporters, and undecided voters. I see no problem with that. In the NBC biden town hall they said that they were undecided and it turned out that they were all biden supporters.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 18, 2020, 05:33:01 am
Hans, you know what really funny about the Biden supporters? All the right wing news outlets are claiming Biden's town hall was on NBC. So they are all saying The NBC broadcast of Biden's town hall was full of Biden supporters. Critical thinking would instantly, in fact any thinking at all, would instantly bring to mind that Biden's town hall was on ABC. Not NBC. It's funny how propaganda works isn't it.

I'll quote this from your post.
"In the NBC biden town hall they said that they were undecided and it turned out that they where all biden supporters."

Truth is good. Propaganda is bad. Alternate facts are lies.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 18, 2020, 02:04:54 pm
The final Presidential Debate will be on Thursday. I think we all know how this will end. Not very well. :(
Here are the six topics for discussion.

    "Fighting COVID-19"
Trump: "We've completely beaten Covid. It was just a flu, that's all.

    "American Families"
Trump: "I've done more for American families than any other President in history. Unemployment is way, way down. Jobs are opening up by the hundreds of thousands. The Recession is over I think."

    "Race in America"
Trump: "There are some bad people on both sides. But particuarly the left. Very bad people. But you also have good people on both sides. Our law enforcement officers are doing a terrific job. Just terrific. We will bring order to America. No, wait. I will bring law and order to America."

    "Climate Change"
Trump: "The wildfires out in California? That's California's fault. Climate Change is unproven."

    "National Security"
Trump: "I've gotten a lot accomplished with other leaders of the world. Russia, China, North Korea. We're friends now."  (Yeah, riiiiight.  >:( )

    "Leadership"
Trump: "I'm the greatest President there ever was. Maybe even the greatest leader of the free world. Nobody has done more than me for this country. Nobody."

I think you can pretty much see how this is going to play out.  :P
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 18, 2020, 02:16:37 pm
Hans, you know what really funny about the Biden supporters? All the right wing news outlets are claiming Biden's town hall was on NBC. So they are all saying The NBC broadcast of Biden's town hall was full of Biden supporters. Critical thinking would instantly, in fact any thinking at all, would instantly bring to mind that Biden's town hall was on ABC. Not NBC. It's funny how propaganda works isn't it.

I'll quote this from your post.
"In the NBC biden town hall they said that they were undecided and it turned out that they where all biden supporters."

Truth is good. Propaganda is bad. Alternate facts are lies.
I am aware of the difference between NBC and ABC I am talking about a town hall he did on NBC a few weeks ago. They said that all the people there were undecided voters. Turns out, the same people appeared on a programm for biden supporters. How come that causes no controversy but the left explodes at the "nodding lady" on the trump town hall when they clearly said that there woupd be trump supporters, biden supporters, and undecided voters. How do you justify that? Do you justify Twitter and Facebook censoring the NY post article about Hunter Biden.
Let me make it clear. Propoganda, lies, censorship, misinformation, and manipulation are alive and well in the US.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 18, 2020, 07:06:15 pm
It caused no controversy because it isn't the truth. And the entire  Biden with Ukraine and burisma thing has been proven false and lies over and over again. The only reason why right wing media created the Biden supporter propaganda is because they were caught with their pants down with the nodding lady. The only reason right wing propaganda networks are bringing up an already proven propaganda is because they can't find anything against Biden.

Facebook and Twitter blocked NY post's article because it is a lie. They have the right to block deliberate lying by both right and left wing propaganda networks. If you go back and look at the truth you can find that out for yourself. It's not a controversy. it's a fact. If Biden's son was in the wrong he would still be in prison. If Hillary Clinton's emails had shared guarded information she would also still be in prison. If Obama wasn't born in American  he would have never been able to run for office. Lies are lies. It's not a controversy that both Facebook and Twitter do their best to keep political propaganda off their formats. It's also not surprising that almost all of the posts blocked are either from Trump himself or right wing propaganda networks. Both right wing media and the republican party have supported Q-anon and alternate facts. Trump has shone over and over again his support for white supremacist. The only real shame is no one can point to the posts. Because both Facebook and Twitter have removed them.

If you look at the actions taken by both Facebook and Twitter you can easily say they are doing their best to make Trump and the right wing media look good. They are hiding the lies so no one can point them out. Doing their best to make Trump look good. If there is no evidence there is nothing that can be used against Trump. All you end up with is someone being censored with no proof of why. Censorship with no reason turns Trump into a victim. Had both Facebook and Twitter not taken these posts down they would be splattered all over American TV. Using Trump's own words against him.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 19, 2020, 01:50:41 am
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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 19, 2020, 12:03:30 pm
Not saying anything today, Hans?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 19, 2020, 02:31:05 pm
I was going to respond to cause but I just came across this.
https://youtu.be/woGyMvqLV5o

The director of intelligence says the there is no evidence that the Hunter Biden emails are Russian disinformation. Of course it's still unclear if there was any corruption on Joe Biden's part but don't be so quick to say that it's all a hoax.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 19, 2020, 10:48:56 pm
Haha! Gotta love it!  :D Microphones will be muted at the next Presidential Debate.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/19/politics/presidential-debate/index.html

Finally, we won't have to listen to all that hot air coming out of Trump's flippant mouth.  :D :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 20, 2020, 01:54:54 am
Haha! Gotta love it!  :D Microphones will be muted at the next Presidential Debate.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/19/politics/presidential-debate/index.html

Finally, we won't have to listen to all that hot air coming out of Trump's flippant mouth.  :D :D
Couldn't he just yell very loudly. I have a feeling that that might happen.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 20, 2020, 11:30:00 pm
Well, well, well. The plot thickens.  :o There may be something to this........or nothing? Time will tell. ;)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/trump-china-taxes-financial-records/index.html

In other news........
Interesting article:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/opinions/if-trump-loses-lockhart/index.html

Biden's tax plan:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/joe-biden-tax-plan/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 21, 2020, 02:08:12 pm
Miss you Old Rabbit. Hope your able to read this and are doing well. Looking forward to reading from you again soon!

Hans, it is very clear that Hunter Biden is in the clear.

Seems Trump walked out on an interview. Still can't handle the truth.

Trump is a big fan of right wing propaganda networks and here's the numbers to prove it. This is a list of how many interviews he's done and one what network.

Fox News (all platforms): 115

Wall Street Journal: 10

NBC/CNBC: 9

Washington Post: 8

Reuters: 8

New York Times: 8

ABC: 7

CBS: 7 (including Tuesday's "60 Minutes" interview)

Associated Press: 2

If your not smiling and nodding at him he's not going to talk to you.  115 on a right wing network. 59 for real news networks. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 21, 2020, 02:51:11 pm
Miss you Old Rabbit. Hope your able to read this and are doing well. Looking forward to reading from you again soon!

Hans, it is very clear that Hunter Biden is in the clear.

Seems Trump walked out on an interview. Still can't handle the truth.

Trump is a big fan of right wing propaganda networks and here's the numbers to prove it. This is a list of how many interviews he's done and one what network.

Fox News (all platforms): 115

Wall Street Journal: 10

NBC/CNBC: 9

Washington Post: 8

Reuters: 8

New York Times: 8

ABC: 7

CBS: 7 (including Tuesday's "60 Minutes" interview)

Associated Press: 2

If your not smiling and nodding at him he's not going to talk to you.  115 on a right wing network. 59 for real news networks.
Honestly the only real outlet here is Reuters. All the rest are bs including FOX.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 21, 2020, 03:00:04 pm
Hmmmm. About Trump and the media.........What will Trump do after the election if he loses? He always complains about the media and how they portray him negatively, etc.

Could this be his next career choice?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/21/politics/donald-trump-2020-election-fox-news-oann/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 22, 2020, 01:39:52 am
Kobuk, I heard Trump has said he'd leave the country if he looses. From the USA to the USSR in one vote. You know I'm voting. Hopefully all the 'best people he knows' will join him.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 22, 2020, 02:52:47 am
Hmmmm. About Trump and the media.........What will Trump do after the election if he loses? He always complains about the media and how they portray him negatively, etc.

Could this be his next career choice?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/21/politics/donald-trump-2020-election-fox-news-oann/index.html
I wouldn't doubt it . What about hosting a presidential  apprentice. Instead of you're fired it could be: "you're impeached"
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 22, 2020, 02:55:44 am
https://reut.rs/3jsfxpf

DNI Ratcliff says that evidence suuggests that both Iran and Russia are meddling in the election. Iran is trying to hurt Trump while Russia is trying to hurt Biden. Be very carefull about what you read. Research on how to spot propoganda and always fact check everything.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 23, 2020, 10:27:49 am
I swear, if Trump says he killed the Individual Mandate one more time, I'm going to rip his tongue out.  :goldpissed:
The guy has absolutely no health care plan whatsoever. NONE! He just sounds like a broken record repeating the same stuff over and over again. Trump's performance in the third debate last night was just a repeat of his performance in the first debate. Nothing changed. More interrupting. More false and baseless claims.  :P

Biden on the other hand was "modestly" ok. But I do think he dug himself into a hole with his responses concerning fracking. He's going to take heat for that.

At least last night's debate moderator did a somewhat better job of keeping the debate on track than what happened during the first debate. Kudos to her.

A few selected topics for reading:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/last-presidential-debate-hits-and-misses/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/politics/trump-biden-final-2020-debate/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/politics/biden-3-5-million-russia/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/23/politics/biden-fracking-fact-check/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/fact-check-final-presidential-election-debate/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 25, 2020, 11:44:43 am
For those who may wish to know . I have been sick,
and my vision is so poor  I can't see to wright.
Over the past years I have told the truth as I know
it about Trump.

The only real power we have is our vote. Trump thinks his money
will buy what ever he wants.
Trump  can't understand  anything  but self
indulgence. Anything  else means nothing
to him. So vote to get rid of Trump, Biden isn't
going to hur us, vote to flip the senate, because


They care not for anyone  else. all they GOP want is power and money. and
they will work to  destrroy mddicare and social security All to cut taxes and
make government  smaller.

They want us to beg for our food and health care. Otherwise 
we can just starve and die. Don't believe anything the GOP
say, because like Trump they will like to win. No matter who it
imay hurt. There are a lot of good people  in the GOP, but they have
been misled  by Trump and the far right. So it's up to us to kick them
out.


Remember  vote as if your life depanded on it, because it likely does.be corrupted and mislaed by the far right.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 25, 2020, 12:03:16 pm
I just read a news article (Actually, make that 2 articles.) that made my blood boil.  :goldpissed: I probably shouldn't be surprised by this, but I am. In short, Trump and the rest of his administration are giving up. They're not going to do anything about the coronavirus and are just going to give in to defeat.

White House chief of staff: 'We are not going to control the pandemic'

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics/mark-meadows-controlling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html

Quote
White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said Sunday that the US is "not going to control" the coronavirus pandemic, as cases surge across the country and nearly 225,000 Americans have died from the virus.
"We are not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigation areas," Meadows told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."
The comments from President Donald Trump's chief of staff come as coronavirus cases surge across the US and the administration continues to consistently disregard advice from government health experts to wear masks, social distance and avoid large gatherings as a way to curb the spread of the virus. The White House is also facing a potential second outbreak of the virus after at least five people in Pence's inner circle have tested positive in recent days, according to a source familiar with the situation.

Pressed by Tapper on why the US isn't going to get the pandemic under control, Meadows said: "Because it is a contagious virus just like the flu." He added that the Trump administration is "making efforts to contain it."

"What we need to do is make sure that we have the proper mitigation factors, whether it's therapies or vaccines or treatments to make sure that people don't die from this," Meadows said.
The US reported its second-highest day of new cases on Saturday, with nearly 84,000 Americans contracting the deadly virus. As of Sunday, there were at least 8,575,000 total cases of coronavirus in the US, and at least 224,800 Americans have died from the virus, according to Johns Hopkins University.

But as concerns grow that more people surrounding the vice president could test positive in the coming days, Pence, who is the head of the White House's coronavirus task force, does not currently plan to self-quarantine, in defiance of US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines, and will continue campaigning as the election nears.
Pence and second lady Karen Pence each tested negative for coronavirus on Sunday, a White House official said.
"I spoke to the vice president last night at midnight and I can tell you that what he is doing is wearing a mask, socially distancing and when he goes up to speak he will take the mask off and put it back on," Meadows said. "He is wearing a mask as it relates to this particular thing because the doctors have advised him to do that."
Meadows also refused to disclose the extent of the Covid-19 outbreak in Pence's orbit, saying the administration doesn't share personal information and that such disclosures are only appropriate in the case of the President, vice president or those in their inner circle.
"Anytime there's someone in harm's way, we have an obligation to let people know for contract-tracing," he said.
Meadows argued that Pence would continue with travel plans because he is "essential personnel."
"I'm not saying he is not campaigning, I'm saying that is only part of what he is doing and as we look at that, 'essential personnel,' whether it's the vice president of the United States or anyone else, has to continue on," he said.

Pence, who is known to rarely wear a mask while flying on Air Force Two, traveled on Saturday to Florida for campaign rallies in Lakeland and Tallahassee. The vice president walked across the tarmac from Marine Two in a mask and boarded Air Force Two about an hour behind schedule.
Pence emerged maskless from Air Force Two in Florida, running down the steps and jogging across the tarmac, fist pumping as he approached the podium.
An official told CNN's Kevin Liptak on Sunday that Pence is expected to campaign every day until Election Day and those plans remain in place for now.
After visiting North Carolina later Sunday, the vice president is traveling to Minnesota on Monday and back to North and South Carolina on Tuesday. He's also expected to return to the upper Midwest this week. The official said Pence would continue to be tested but, like Trump, still plans to be on the road every day for the next week.

California Sen. Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for vice president, said Sunday that Pence "should be following the guidelines," when asked about his decision to continue campaigning despite news of the positive tests. "We're doing it. I think what we have modeled (is) the right and good behavior, and they just take our lead."
Harris canceled travel a week ago "out of an abundance of caution" after two people in her orbit tested positive for the virus.
Harris, speaking shortly after arriving in Detroit, said that Meadows' comments to Tapper on Sunday show the Trump administration is "admitting defeat."

"We are breaking records of the number of people that are contracting, a deadly virus, and this administration fails to take personal responsibility or responsibility in terms of leading the nation through this dangerous, dangerous and deadly mass casualty."

And if the above article wasn't bad enough, there's also this one. Trump could put thousands or millions of government civil serive jobs at risk. Basically, he could fire anybody he wanted to and instead put in his own crooked cronies who will do and say whatever Trump wants. In short, it all comes down to "loyalty". Trump wants loyalty from those around him and he'll do whatever he can to get it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/24/opinions/trump-executive-order-reclassify-government-employees-schedule-f-garrett/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 25, 2020, 12:42:40 pm
Trump  wants us to forget about Covid19, Because he knows it's bad for his image.

Yes  he will do anything  to get loyalty.

Hopefully if Biden wins  he can reverse  any presidential  declaration  Trump may make.

Trump has broken many campaign  promises. Especially  infrastructure  repairs. The big
reason  he hates  the ACA is because Obama  has his name on it. Trump  wants to get
rid of anything  Obama  touched.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 26, 2020, 12:03:38 pm
Only a week to go, and Trump is blowing hot air across the nation. The
trouble is he still doesn't have a plan. Just empty promises..

Are the men of Trump
preparing to leave the ship of state if Trump loses? I have a
hunch these man of Trump are going to have a bad reputation to live down if their
 boss is on his way out.

Trump is hoping any loss will be close, so he can use his high dollar legal team to take
 to the supreme court where he would expect his appointments to give him
another 4 years as president.

 
Currently Trump is about 5 points behind where he was in 2016. Trump doesn't
have the support from women or the older crowd as he did in 2016. This
will make it more difficult unless this support
changes. With only a week left and with covid19
on the rampage Trump's lies are getting harder to swallow.

Trump seems to think he ccan scare people  into voting
for  him, but in many cases  this is back firing  on him. People want
a return to a strong democracy, not a autocracy run by Trump.

People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 8,700,000 and deaths are over 226,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 42,000,000 and over 1,100,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 26, 2020, 08:22:20 pm
It's official. Amy Coney Barrett has just been confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Get ready to put your muzzle between your legs and kiss your health insurance goodbye.  :(

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/amy-coney-barrett-senate-confirmation-vote
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 27, 2020, 12:57:17 pm

One week to go, and I find it strange that there are people  who haven't decided who
they wish to vote for. Makes me wonder if they even care about the country. A democracy can't exist unless the people  are willing to take the time or interest  in it by
voting. I have heard people complain, but many politicians only work to benefit them
selves if voters don't hold them accountable.

We have a new supreme court justice as of today. A woman who claims she won't
let her faith affect her decisions, but time will  tell. A judge who lets religion or politics
control their decisions should be impeached, because they must follow the law or the
constitution to control their decisions. Congress can override the courts, but it is a slow
process, where politics often gets in the way.  This is why the GOP has decided to use
the courts, to  keep the people  from interfering with their plans to take and keep
power.

People in the GOP  leadership manipulate the public to stay in office for  many years.
They know most people are too lazy to care enough to  hold them accountable. So they give the public just enough to keep their support while in the background  they cheat
and   steal from the taxpayer.

 This manipulation starts at the local level, where corrupt politicians learn how to enrich
themselves and crooked businessmen. They do get caught, but not often enough. With bribes they work to cover their crooked activities.


Trump is a  professional manipulator, and knows exactly how to lead the public around
by the nose. Trump repeats his lies time and time again, because he knows people
will accept them eventually. At his rally's he works his audience, listening to see what
they want to hear, then repeats these lies. He also uses conspiracies that are
popular with the public to gain their favor. Trump is a con artist and uses the tools of
the con artist trade to manipulate those around him.

It's unfortunate, but Trump uses those who lust for money and power to  help him
make money and keep power. He knows if he loses, his control is lost as well, and
will face judgement beyond his control. So we can expect him to do all he can to
manipulate the election for his benefit.  This is why there was such a rush to replace
the supreme court  justice, to give conservatives  more power to  control the election.

Control by conservatives will soon end, but not till after a fight. If they hold the
white house, and the senate, It may take a real war to get rid of them. So be
sure to vote.

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris. 
They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any
mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 5,400,000 and deaths are over 170,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 21,700,000 and over 775,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 28, 2020, 01:04:42 pm

6 days left, and the GOP are in courts across  the nation  doing all they can to limit
voting.  To the GOP, all is fair when it comes to politics. It is sad when you see a
GOP politician lie and cheat to stay in office.  Just like Trump all they are interested in
is money and power. I hate to say it, but perhaps this country needs a world war to
wake people up to why a democracy is so important. After ww2 the government had
quite a few veterans who understood why we need a democracy. Now government has
too many who are only interested in money, and  do little for the good of the country,
much less the people.

 
Trump plans to fight any defeat, so hopefully the senate can be flipped at least.
That will make it much harder for Trump to ignore the constitution and the law.  All Trump has done  over his first term is pack the courts with conservatives and remove
regulations that were  designed to protect our environment. Trump, the GOP and far
right are only  interested in power and money. They will just continue doing the same
if returned to power.

Trump and his minions continue to claim covid19  is nothing more than a bad case of
the flue. This of course is just Trump trying to avoid blame for ignoring the virus.
Sadly his rally's are spreading the virus, because his supporters fail to follow safety
measures and attend rally's without mask.  Then return home where they pass the
virus to  family and friends.

Trump has been working hard to convince people that the Democrats plan to create
a socialist state. This of course is a lie. Trump and the GOP want to create an
autocracy with Trump as a dictator.  Much the same as Putin of Russia. Trump plans
to make his super rich friends much like Oligarchs  who will hold monopolies over
industries.  So the rest of us will be little more than slaves,  with little chance for
advancement, unless your born into riches as Trump was.

Trump continues his attack on Obama. Even though over 100 million people  will
lose access to affordable health insurance  by doing so, he wants to do away with
Obama care.  Only the election of Biden, and flipping the senate can undo much  of
Trump's dirty work of the past 4 years.   

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.



Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 8,800,000 and deaths are over 226,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 44,000,000 and over 1,100,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 29, 2020, 12:46:53 pm

5 days to go, and Trump continues to lie. It makes no sense why people  want to
believe a man just because they voted for them. A title is just a title, it doesn't change
a person's morality. Once a crook, always a crook.

People need to realize a president can't  make laws, only congress can. So when
Trump claims Biden will create a socialist state, it's a lie, because only congress
could do it. Then the supreme court could undo it. To create a socialist state would
require a change to the constitution. A change that would require a 2/3 vote b y both
houses of congress and the president. Then 2/3 of the states would need to agree.
So people need not worry, because it's just one of Trump's many lies.

Trump will likely claim a win on the night of the election if he happens to be ahead.
He should be ignored as it may take several days to count all of the votes.
Thousands of absent T and votes by the military from around the world must be
counted before a winner can be declared. No matter what Trump claims, this is
perfectly normal.

Many people seem to give Trump credit for a strong economy. More jobs were created
during the last year of the Obama administration than during all of Trump's time in
office.  Trump has been riding a economic wave created by the Democrats. In fact
the economy was slowing prior to the pandemic. Trump's economic claims are just
claims. The GOP has taken credit many times for economic growth created by the
Democrats.  The GOP creates economic loss each time they take power. Then the
Democrats have to undo GOP actions to fix it. Actions that are often unpopular, so the GOP comes along an regain power with promises to undo the very actions that are needed for economic growth.

Sadly politicians, take advantage of public  greed and ignorance to hold power. So
the economy bounces back and forth, up and down while the GOP plays their games.
This is why we need term limits for all politicians. To break the back of this cycle of
greed. I fear due to political opposition term limits will be slow to pass, if ever.




 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.

The number of infections in the U S is over 8,800,000 and deaths are over 228,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 44,100,000 and over 1,100,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 29, 2020, 01:35:50 pm
Well the election is only a few away. This may very well be a repeat of the 2016 election with the controversy of the 2000 election. One thing is for  though, there will be a huge outrage no matter who wins.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 29, 2020, 03:09:31 pm
AWESOME! to see you back Old Rabbit!

Let's do a recap of the 2016 election.

Gun Control! The Dems will take away all your guns! If you register your guns the government will take them away. The truth, found out by about everyone who owns a gun. Or is now or has ever been a member of the NRA. ( past member myself ). The NRA  has a life long agreement in their original contract ( the one I had and millions of Americans still have ) that states ( If you have proof of ownership and your gun gets stolen we ( the NRA) will replace it. So the entire fight was over money. The NRA didn't want people to register their guns. That's why you don't hear any of this now.

Emails. This was a bad thing. However there was no, not a single email that had any compromising information or even national information. These were privet email. The same kind anyone on the internet would send out. The truth. The only people who still believe otherwise only get their information from right wing media. Trump tried to bring this back. Was quickly backed down by his own party. To many people know the truth.

Hunter Biden. A joke. The only people who still don't get the joke are those fed by right wing media.

Huge outrage? No. Again right wing media using fear to control their brain washed victims. Can you guess how many times Fox News and others have repeatedly used fear to control people? Ever hear about the horror of spent uranium?

Let me put this in a way any right wing media fan will understand.   ALONE.... OUTNUMBERED....



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 30, 2020, 12:39:41 pm

4 days to go, and over 80 million votes have been cast. It's likely the total will exceed
100 million  before election day. Trump and the GOP continue doing their best to
limit votes with lies and intimidation. Not counting hundreds of law suits intended to
help Trump win another term.

Even if Trump wins,it's likely the GOP will lose hundreds of elections across the nation.
Millions of people are getting tired of GOP dirty tricks and lies. Trump continues to
lie about covid19, and it's spread across the country. Over 1000 people are dying
each day. Yesterday over 90,000 were infected. Yet Trump claims it's going away.

 It was reported that Trump told his Attorney  General to end a case against a Turkish
bank because the leader of Turkey asked him to do so. This alone should be a
impeachable offense, and if Trump was a democrat the GOP would have been calling
for  his impeachment. As is the GOP could care less. 

It's likely the only reason the GOP and Trump have any chance is due to far right news
outlets and their lies in support of Trump. The GOP claim millions of their supporters
will vote on election day to surpass any lead Biden might have. This is likely wishful
thinking by the GOP. Political parties never admit they may lose before an
election, because it would likely discourage their voters. Trump and his minions are
in states they should win, so it's a good sign they are worried, otherwise they would
be trying to win states Trump lost in 2016. The sad thing is Trump cares so little
for his supporters, he is putting thousands of them at risk of being infected by
having rally's
in states spreading covid19.

I still believe presidential elections should  be by popular vote. Because a
president is for all the people, not for any part of the country or party. Trump never has
been a president for the people. Instead he cares only for those
who voted for him. Just as a senator or representative would.
 

 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.


The number of infections in the U S is over 8,900,000 and deaths are over 229,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 44,700,000 and over 1,100,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Yip on October 30, 2020, 02:24:05 pm
If you want to vote by mail and haven't already done so, it's probably too late for that. Instead, you'll have to drop your ballot off at a polling station or vote in person.

(edited to correct typo)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 30, 2020, 10:41:32 pm
Quote
Gun Control! The Dems will take away all your guns!

Actually, this isn't exactly true. It is true to a certain degree, but not 100%. I'd like to explain more, but it'll have to be much, much later when I have more time.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 31, 2020, 12:54:18 am
Kobuk, I was referring to all all the propaganda put out by the NRA. And the truth behind it. There is a reason why this has never been brought up again. Most NRA members knew about this. They became hostile to the NRA. The NRA found out quickly that people do not need to be paying members of their organization. No. No one in our government wants to take away anyone's guns. You can't have a true democracy if you disarm your population.  if you look at England they both disarmed the population AND the public police force. This is a balance. Yes they have agencies with arms. But they are not the folks you see everyday.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 31, 2020, 12:04:50 pm





3 Days left, and Trump is running scared. Using fear and lies, he wants people to
believe a vote for Democrats will ruin the economy and the nation. There is no reason
for people to believe the nonsense Trump is spreading. His promises of 2016 have been ignored in favor of working for himself and friends. If he wins another term, there
is no reason to believe anything will change.  Covid19 will continue it's rampage across
this nation. Though we are one of the most advanced medically in the world, we have
the greatest infections and deaths from the virus.

Trump could have been a hero, but he was so concerned about his chances to win
another term, he ran away from his responsibility for the people. So now he wants
to claim the virus is a fraud promoted by doctors and hospitals. Telling people it's just
another form of the flu, and nothing to worry about. Well I personally lost a close friend
to this virus, and another friend who could die from it. Over 230,000 people here and
1.1 million people around the world are  dead due to this virus Trump wants to ignore.

,  If your a person of color, LGBTQ, woman, disabled, have health problems, poor
or elderly. Neither Trump or the GOP care about you. All they care about is people
who are rich. Trump has said it, the poor are suckers and losers. Only those who can
offer them money have any value at all.

Trump promised to improve the infrastructure of this country. Instead he gave big
business and the rich a big tax cut. This tax cut made his rich friends happy, but
did nothing to improve roads, bridges, water, and sewer systems across the nation.
Infrastructure is for the common man, people Trump cares nothing for. If he wins
another term, He will forget about affordable health  care for those with pre-existing
conditions, to please his big insurance friends, and to undo the work of president
Obama. A man Trump hates.

People of Color must realize the only way they can change  the justice system  of this
country is with their votes. The far right believe only white  people  can be trusted. The
only way to change law enforcement is to change the leadership of this country.
 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.


The number of infections in the U S is over 9,000,000 and deaths are over 230,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 45,700,000 and over 1,200,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Hans the husky on October 31, 2020, 12:07:04 pm
I strongly oppose the idea of abolishing the electoral college. Here is why: you can't have NY and California make decisions for an entire country. The urbanite liberal type people that live in the big cities simply don't know what's best for the country. If you look at the makeup of many of the battleground states you will notice that they are generally very politicaly diverse. For example, i'll take Pensylvania since I'm familiar with the state because I have family there. Phillidelphia is a pretty typical liberal coastal city while the more rural areas tend to be much more conservative. Same with Florida, You have the classic "dixiecrats", the cuban immigrants who are tend to be more conservative, and the more liberal people that come from up north.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 31, 2020, 12:34:08 pm
For anybody who plans to vote for Trump simply because he's done so much for the economy, think again.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/business/stock-market-by-president/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/business/us-economy-trump-vs-other-presidents/

Policy differences between Biden and Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/trump-vs-biden-2020-election-policies/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 31, 2020, 01:54:17 pm
Don't believe the polls, statistics, pundits, etc. This history professor says Biden will win. He has correctly predicted every Presidential election since 1984. Polls and percentages mean nothing.

https://www.dw.com/en/professor-allan-lichtman-has-correctly-predicted-every-us-president-since-1984-he-says-joe-biden-will-defeat-trump/av-55404679

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/us/allan-lichtman-trump-biden-2020-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 31, 2020, 02:11:57 pm

Yes a popular vote has some drawbacks, but a voter in a state can only vote to decide
who his state will vote for. He or she can't vote for a president directly. So a voter
in a  state must accept who his state wants for the job.  Though I didn't vote for
Trump in2016, my state voted for Trump even though I didn't. While my single vote
wouldn't likely have changed anything, I think all the people should have a say in who
represents the country as a whole.  Just because a state votes for a president
that vote may or may not affect how that president acts. Trump is a new yorker who
supports the rich elite. Not a person in the countries center. Unless they
happen to be a billionaire.

Also the electoral system  doesn't require a state to vote according to how it's voters
voted.  A state can require it's electors to vote for anyone the state legislature wants.
The electoral system wasn't setup for a fair election, but to elect a man the elite felt 
was good for them and the nation.

Yes people in different parts of the country want different policies, but that is what
political parties are for. To bring like minded people together.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 31, 2020, 08:02:03 pm
Agree with you Old Rabbit. And on that the idea that two large cities would have more say in an election than the rest of the country is mathematically impossible. But anyone who actually thought about that would come to the same conclusion. The stupidity of right wing media is astounding. The population of USA is over 330.000.000. The total population of New York state and California is just over 59.000.000. That leaves 271.000.000 people. And to claim the political diversity of those two states in non existent is without proof and irresponsible. Like any other propaganda this has no basis in facts.  The electoral collage needs to go. Why should the state I live in matter less than another?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 01, 2020, 12:21:32 pm

2 days to go, and it's all about voting. Trump is hoping the polls are wrong as they
were in 2016. Allowing him a squeak victory.  He is likely to get more votes this time
around, but this time he has a history that may cost him votes, and may bring many
people out just to vote for his defeat.

Hopefully he  loses bad enough so a challenge to his loss will fail. Over the last month
Trump has apparently for gotten he is the president as about all he has done is have
rally's.  Not only that, these rally's have been spreading covid19 as well. Trump continues
to run people  down for trying to protect themselves from this
virus. Yes he recovered, but few people get the same health care as Trump
received. Trump considers people who can't afford insurance coverage to be
losers, and can just die.

When Trump became president, he wanted to be the boss, just as if the country was
his to rule. So anytime someone opposed his way of thinking, he would just get mad
and leave the room. Compromise was out of the question. During business transactions
Trump used this same way of dealing with people Using his money to intimidate people
who needed the business, and many times they had to give in. Now
Trump wants to use these same tactics as president. Proof he doesn't understand the job. This is another reason he should be defeated.

Apparently some Trump supporters tried to run a Biden Harris bus off
the road in Texas.
Instead of running this down Trump acted like it was a good thing and no big deal. Just more proof
Trump only cares about himself, and  supports those who support him, for now
anyway. Who can say how long. Once he wins these people could become more of his losers.


 
People need to remember if you see someone online trying to make Biden and Harris
look bad, they are likely supporters of Trump and spreading lies. Russia is working
hard all across social  media with conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris.  They
want Trump because  he is like a puppet on a string for them, and they know Biden
is no puppet.

Those who plan to vote by mail need to  vote early, because Trump and the GOP
are doing all they can to slow mail service, and limit voting by people of color.
People should go to their county seat, and vote absent T in person. This will make
it very difficult for the GOP to keep your vote from counting. Also take a friend with
you, and if the state doesn't allow in person absent T voting, personally deliver your
mail in vote to them instead of mailing it. That way you can ask them to see if you
made any mistakes, or if your signature matches or not.

Anyone who is interested in a fair election should volunteer to be a poll worker. Just go to
your states website or google for state info about being a poll worker. No matter what your
party affiliation is,


The number of infections in the U S is over 9,200,000 and deaths are over 231,000.

World wide the number of infections is over 46,000,000 and over 1,200,000 deaths.

This takes you to an article on GOP work in the Senate
showing how they are blocking legislation in the senate. Too much to list here..
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump

You can find out more at the following links. I don't have a
direct link to the Mueller Report, but You really should read
it, because Trump is still calling it a hoax which it is not, and
he and the Russians don't want you to read it. One of these
sites below  should have a link to it, and the
whistle blowers reports too.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 02, 2020, 01:00:24 pm

Well folks it's down to 1 day left, and the GOP and Trump are going all out to limit
or block early voting. They fear early votes, and expect election day votes to win the
day for them. Trump has legal teams across the nation ready to declare  any loss by
him due to illegal voting.

Don't let all this crap by Trump and the GOP keep you away from the polls, because
that is just what they want. Stay home unless your voting for them. It seems gone are
the days when politicians worked for votes. Now it's all about winning even if they have
to cheat and lie. This is why we need term limits. To keep people   from making a career
out of the job. No one should make political office a career as many have
done. The average age for GOP senators in the senate is over 80 years. We need
people with fresh  ideas, not old men who are there only because they are afraid to
retire.

If you have followed my posts since Trump took office, you should know Trump has no
business as president. He only cares about him self. He only has rally's to hear people
cheer for him. The GOP work hard to keep Trump away from the truth, or any place
where he might hear how people actually feel about him. Because boo's would deflate
his ego. They know his rally's put thousands at risk, but they only care about winning
and nothing else.

Perhaps they really believe the nonsense they spew  but only supporting the rich is a
disaster for the country. To make this country really  great, we have to support
everyone. Especially those who need a helping hand. People who Trump and the GOP
turn their back on.

Trump plans to let covid19 continue to infect and kill, So a vote for Trump could
mean deaths for millions, Not just infections. Trump and the GOP will leave millions without
affordable health care. Doing this under a pandemic is immoral and disgusting.

If Trump wins, I will end these posts, even if Biden wins I won't continue posting   daily.
A win by Trump will be a disaster, but me posting about it won't help anyone. So all I can
say is I prey for the good of the nation, Trump is defeated, and defeated soundly.

Be sure to vote, it's the only real power you have. If you have a ballot, take it to a polling 
place, or put it in a drop box. It's the only way it will  count. It's too late to mail.

If you plan to vote tomorrow, be prepared to stand in line, especially in
large cities. So take a folding chair along with food and water. If you see
someone trying to intimidate voters report it. be sure to vote for state and
local people as well. All the best for everyone and the country.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 02, 2020, 03:36:51 pm
For two days now youtube has only been showing trump adds.

If's kind of like shooting yourself in the foot. Keeping voters away from polls means your also keeping voters form voting for the republican party. This is a decent showing of the complete lack of reality the republican party has. And in all honesty folks legal teams can do nothing to keep Trump in office. Trump and the GOP are nothing more than jokes. It is really unfortunate that an entire political party has gone from believing in a cause to nothing more than a power mad joke.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 04, 2020, 02:49:21 am
I know it's the night of the election. There has been no winner announced yet. Trump has made a statement that "He's already won. This election is being stolen from me". So I tuned into fox network. This is a direct quote.

"Every vote for Biden is stealing this election from President Trump."

They went on do discuss how trump has a right to use legal teams . 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 04, 2020, 11:30:12 am

Well as expected Trump is  claiming victory, even with millions of votes to count. He
wants people to believe most absent T votes are fraudulent. It appears we will have to
wait a few days before a winner can be decided. Trump is already claiming he is expecting
the supreme court to declare him the winner.

Trump is already pushing legal challenges. It's not likely these challenges will get anywhere, but
you can be sure appeals to higher and higher courts will be made.

At this time several states have yet to finish vote counting, so all we can do is wait
to see who is the winner. As expected election day votes favored Trump, but early
votes favored Biden. So we have to wait for early vote count to finish.

It seems most of the people who voted for Trump felt he is the best man to bring the
economy back. Even though this is a Trump fantasy as it has been shown by  economists
Biden is the best man for the job. So if Trump does win, these people and
the rest of us will likely have tough times ahead, because Trump just doesn't know how
to do anything, but feed the stock market with tax dollars. Even before the start of the
pandemic the economy was slowing. and we will likely end up in a
recession if not a depression, with only the super rich doing well.

It appears the senate will stay under GOP control, so even if Biden wins he will be
very limited as moscow Mitch can prevent Biden and the Democrats from doing much
if anything at all legislatively. Perhaps by 2022 people will be fed up enough to take
the senate from the GOP, but
I am not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 04, 2020, 02:54:59 pm
Old Rabbit. It must be remembered that Trump is only threatening legal actions in the states he lost to. He has no problems with the states he's won. And secondly the supreme court can not declare him the winner. They have absolutely no say so in any election. He seems to think the supreme court has more power than any other branch of government. The don't.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 04, 2020, 03:57:46 pm
Once a person reaches 270 electoral votes, it's GAME OVER. Finished. The Toddler-in-Chief can throw a hissy fit and temper tantrum all he wants if he loses, but there's little or nothing he can do. Recounts might be possible, but I doubt it might happen.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 04, 2020, 10:53:37 pm
He seems to think the supreme court has more power than any other branch of government. The don't.
You could fill several books with information Trump doesn't know about the election system. And then use those book to teach classes about the system...

....oh wait.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 05, 2020, 09:15:18 am
As I write this post, the current total of electoral votes that each candidate has is the following:
Biden - 253
Trump - 213

There are still thousands and thousands more mail-in ballots that need to be counted in the following states: Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alaska. Those are the 6 states that are left. Each of those states has the following number of electoral votes:
Pennsylvania - 20
Georgia - 16
North Carolina - 15
Arizona - 11
Nevada - 6
Alaska - 3

If Biden wins Arizona and Nevada which it looks like he could do, then it's game over and he wins.
If Biden were to win Pennsylvania, it's game over and he wins.

If Trump were to win Pennsylvania, Georgia, and North Carolina, he'd have 264 electoral votes.
Trump as it stands right now is expected to win Alaska. But Alaska only has 3 votes.
264 + 3 = 267. Trump would still be shy 3 electoral votes from winning.

This presidential race is the closest I have ever seen in my life.  :o
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 05, 2020, 12:07:25 pm

The country is on pins and needles as the vote count continues. Of course Trump is
still claiming  victory, with law suits trying to stop vote counting except in states where
he is behind. Biden is only 7 vote short of the 270 needed to win. Trump however is 56
votes short, so he needs nearly every state that is left.

Trump is calling for a recount in Wisconsin. This is an obvious attempt to delay as it's
not likely to change a 20,000 vote lead by Biden.

The control of the senate is likely to stay under GOP control,but 2022 is likely to flip
control with several vulnerable GOP senators up for election then.

Arizona has been called for Biden by two news outlets, but it's still a possible win for
Trump and may take a few days to decide even yet. Nevada still shows Biden with a
lead, but should be decided soon. Georgia is going to be very close and could go
either way. Pennsylvania appears it will be close as well.

Trump and the GOP are hoping the conservative federal judges they have install will
give them an advantage over the Democrats with their law suits. This seems to be
the case as several of the filings have been poorly written. Almost like they think the
judge will give them a win no matter what.

Infections  by covid19 is hitting 100,000 a day, and may expand even more. Trump
claimed reports about the virus would go away after the election, but people are still
being infected and dying from this virus, election or not.

So far infections in the U S is 9,500,000 and deaths are 234,000.

It seems polls showing Biden with a easy win were wrong, so
either people lied to poll workers or they have a lot of work to
correct their numbers in the future. Otherwise polling will lose
all credibility.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 05, 2020, 10:54:29 pm
Trump supporters must be some of the lamest and stupidest people on Earth.  :P Case in point:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/tech/video-suggests-possible-vote-fraud-detroit-trnd/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/media/detroit-windows-covered-ballots-vote-center/index.html

If the brain dead Trump supporters and right wing media believe that, then I've got a bridge to sell them.  :P Just goes to show what little intelligence these people have.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 06, 2020, 02:25:11 am
Trump is like "Anyone who doesn't vote for me is stealing the election from me. The only legal votes are the ones that say my name. Anyone who is voting for my opponent isn't to be counted. I'm the winner. If you look at the votes that say trump then I've won. That's it."

 :P  Like yeeeeah if you only look at the votes for you then you won 100% of the votes. And if you don't look at the rising global temperatures there's no global warning. And if we just shut our eyes tightly, plug our ears and go "blah blah blah blah blah blah" then you can't hear the wildfires burning the country down or the riots or the massive civil unrest. Everything is good! No problems here! America is number one best country because we don't look at everyone who's ahead of us!

Trump is being such a crybaby sore loser I honestly would not at all be shocked if he loses and his last act as president is to try and launch all of our nuclear weapons to blow the world to kingdom come cause if he can't be king he'll take us all down with him. Trump: Vote for me, or else.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 06, 2020, 12:07:28 pm

Reports are saying Trump is having a fit with each update showing Biden's lead
growing. It is possible that Trump doesn't want to believe he could lose except by voter
fraud. The GOP has done it's best to hide Trump from those who don't approve of him.
So Biden taking the  lead in vote totals could  be a shock to him.

I really don't see Trump tossing in the towel till he is forced to. Law suits from the
Trump campaign have been dismissed by the dozens due to no evidence to show voter
fraud. Claims alone aren't enough to convince judges. His cult may want to believe 
anything  Trump wants them to believe, but a Trump fantasy isn't likely to work in the
courts.

Biden is leading in 4 of the 5 remaining states, but not enough to be declared the
winner yet. Hopefully by the end of today he will be declared president elect. Then we
can expect a fight by Trump to undo the election to begin. There is a possibility the
GOP controlled legislature in Pennsylvania will attempt to require it's electors to vote
for Trump even if Biden carries the state. This might feel good for Trump's cult, but
would be bad for Pennsylvania and the country.

Even if Biden wins, we can expect Trump out having more rally's and online claiming
the election was stolen from him. Personally I hope Trump is charged with his crimes
as soon as possible. The sooner he is held accountable the better. Because he will be
working to convince his cult following of his innocence, and if he isn't charged we can 
expect him to  start running for the 2024 election.

Covid19 sadly is still expanding. Yesterday an increase of 120,000 infections which is
a new record, and most of these were in GOP parts of the country. More proof that
Trump's rally's were super spreaders of the virus. Hospitals in these areas are being
overwhelmed and some may have to pick and choose who they can accept for
treatment. Likely giving preference to younger people.

Here in the U S infections are over 9,600,000  and deaths are over 240,000.


Hopefully someone will tell Trump he has to accept the fact he lost for the
good of the country. Perhaps the leader of the senate could do it since he
was just re-elected for a 6 year term. So time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 06, 2020, 01:03:30 pm
I can't be the only one who mildly thinks waiting till late today to know the winner is a bit odd. I know things this important should be taken seriously. But seriously. :) In all honesty I have to say the states that are still counting votes are doing the right thing. Every vote should count.

I imagine President Trump throwing a three day temper tantrum. Like a spoiled four year old. His staff keeping him away from any cell phone or computer. All the wile he's stomping around proclaiming he is the President and should be allowed to do what ever he wants.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 06, 2020, 03:10:03 pm
Kay, what I fear most from Trump (and/or his supporters) is what comes in the next 3 months from November to January 20th. If Trump loses, which it looks like he will, he still has 3 more months left of his presidency to go. What will he do during that time? That's what scares me.  :o  He could conceivably create a "scorched earth" policy. And I don't mean with nuclear weapons. What I mean is, he could say "If I can't have this Presidency, then neither can Biden.". He could fire more people, create more executive orders, or do God knows what to "trash" democracy, the White House, gov't institutions, etc. to prevent Biden from securing the White House and having a new government. Trump is like a caged animal that has been backed against a wall. And you'd better be cautious when dealing with him cause you don't know what he is going to do. I even just read on the news this morning that Trump has made his intentions that he will not concede if he were to lose to Biden. And of course, let's not forget that he is peppering the courts right now with legal challenges about vote counting, fraud, recounts, etc. to try and stop the counting, etc. How effective these lawsuits will be remains to be seen.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 06, 2020, 03:15:32 pm
I imagine President Trump throwing a three day temper tantrum. Like a spoiled four year old. His staff keeping him away from any cell phone or computer. All the wile he's stomping around proclaiming he is the President and should be allowed to do what ever he wants.

And here he is!  :D

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCfPqi5UMAAvP3x.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 06, 2020, 03:51:43 pm
New update. New math prediction.

Currently right now:
Biden - 253 electoral votes, Needs 17 more to win.
Trump - 213 electoral votes, Needs 57 more to win.

Each of those states has the following number of electoral votes:
Pennsylvania - 20
Georgia - 16
North Carolina - 15
Arizona - 11
Nevada - 6
Alaska - 3

In order for Trump to win, he'd have to win Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, AND Alaska. But, he's not. Currently, it looks like he'll win North Carolina and Alaska.
If he wins North Carolina and Alaska, that brings his electoral count to 231. He'd still be 39 votes shy.

If Biden wins Pennsylvania, it's game over.
If Biden wins Arizona and Nevada, it's game over.
If Biden wins Georgia + Arizona and/or Nevada, it's game over.

News outlets were right. Biden has more chances/avenues of winning than what Trump does. The "math" is not in Trump's favor. I think one of the reasons you are seeing such a tight race in Georgia is probably because of high black voter turnout. Blacks are fed up with Trump.


On a side note...........the 2020 election isn't even done and Trump and/or the Republicans are already preparing for 2024.  :o  If Biden does not in any way seek a second term in 2024, I can't help but wonder if Kamala Harris will make a run for President in 2024? I have a gut feeling she might. But who would challenge her from the Republican side?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/06/politics/donald-trump-2024-joe-biden-2020/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Rocket T. Coyote on November 06, 2020, 05:14:37 pm
Golly, Trump observers aren't being permitted to witness the tallying of the ballots in a number of states. Why not let them in to watch and be humiliated at the defeat of their champion firsthand?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 07, 2020, 01:31:23 am
Kay, what I fear most from Trump (and/or his supporters) is what comes in the next 3 months from November to January 20th. If Trump loses, which it looks like he will, he still has 3 more months left of his presidency to go. What will he do during that time? That's what scares me.  :o  He could conceivably create a "scorched earth" policy. And I don't mean with nuclear weapons. What I mean is, he could say "If I can't have this Presidency, then neither can Biden.". He could fire more people, create more executive orders, or do God knows what to "trash" democracy, the White House, gov't institutions, etc. to prevent Biden from securing the White House and having a new government. Trump is like a caged animal that has been backed against a wall. And you'd better be cautious when dealing with him cause you don't know what he is going to do. I even just read on the news this morning that Trump has made his intentions that he will not concede if he were to lose to Biden. And of course, let's not forget that he is peppering the courts right now with legal challenges about vote counting, fraud, recounts, etc. to try and stop the counting, etc. How effective these lawsuits will be remains to be seen.

I imagine he's got the dictator's guide to holding power and he's following it by the numbers. Cast massive doubt on the voting system even though it put him in power, tie up the system with as much legal red tape as possible and then yeah, it's quite possible he may try to just completely tear everything down to bog down Biden so that most of his first term will be spent just putting things back in order.

As of right now the votes sit at Biden 264 - Trump 214

So here is hoping things stay good.

(https://i.imgur.com/QNKkwjl.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 07, 2020, 11:50:06 am
Whelp that's it. Biden has officially won and the race has been called.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 07, 2020, 12:34:00 pm
Quote: "I imagine he's got the dictator's guide to holding power and he's following it by the numbers. Cast massive doubt on the voting system even though it put him in power, tie up the system with as much legal red tape as possible and then yeah,"

Yep. I already read a news article where he's threatening massive legal action come Monday.

Quote: "it's quite possible he may try to just completely tear everything down to bog down Biden so that most of his first term will be spent just putting things back in order."

Precisely. Even though Biden and Harris have made promises during their campaigns to do all sorts of stuff, I don't think a lot of the things they said they wanted to do may get done. Just to get the coronavirus situation under control or the economy back to some semblence of normalcy might take just the first 1-2 years (or longer) of Biden's presidency. Biden only has 4 years to get things done.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 07, 2020, 12:44:35 pm
P.S. - The idiocy of Trump supporters.  :P Just because a guy crumples up a piece of paper does NOT in any way mean it is a ballot. This just goes to show that some people only see and believe what they want to see and believe, and nothing else. They don't ask questions, don't fact check, don't do research, etc. They just shoot their mouths off or post immediately to social media without getting all the facts.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-07-20/h_00527e193eb89c784d82c8ab86de8dac
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 07, 2020, 12:56:57 pm

Trump is reported to be playing golf today, and may be shooting a boogie when Biden
is declared the winner. He might even wrap one of his clubs around the nearest secret service agent at the news.

Yes we are still waiting to get a decision abut a winner, mostly due to the GOP
state legislatures wanting to delay the results by not letting the polls begin the early
vote count till election day. Apparently to give the Trump campaign time to file law
suits.

The major news outlets seem to be purposely delaying their call to make Biden the
presidential elect. Makes us wonder if those at the top are afraid of what Trump will
do at the news. Even though Trump could try to start a war, the military isn't likely to
follow a wild order from a lunatic.

Trump isn't likely to admit defeat, and we can expect claims the election was stolen
or rigged. Trump just isn't mentally able to accept the fact that he could lose.
at anything. This is why the GOP should force Trump to accept the facts for the good
of the country.

Biden is likely to  win Georgia. Also there are two senate runoff races to be decided
in early January. The control of the senate is at stake, so we can expect the GOP will
do all they can to win at least one if not both. So the Democrats must convince their
voters to come out in big numbers. Because if the GOP hang on to the senate, Biden
will find it all but impossible to get anything of significance done,
because the GOP will want to keep the Democrats from making any gains.

Covid19 is still expanding with over 120,000 new infections per day, and deaths are
running over 1000 a day. Proof that Trump's claim it's all because of too much
testing is wrong.  If Trump cared about his supporters he would tell them the truth, but
he doesn't really care for anyone but him self.

The number of infections in the U S is over 9,700,000 and deaths are over 240,000.

Joe Biden has been declared the winner of Pennsylvania. This  win puts him over 270
electors, which makes him the presidential elect. There are still 3 states he will likely win, but it will take several days to finish the official counts.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Loc on November 07, 2020, 01:23:14 pm
Trump is gone?
Finally! Something good has happened in 2020.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 07, 2020, 02:01:56 pm
Trump is gone?
Finally! Something good has happened in 2020.
(https://pics.me.me/thumb_the-evil-is-defeated-taylor-swift-ha-logrado-lo-superar-27559335.png)

Not that I think Biden will be some kind of second coming of jesus coming from heaven to put right what once was wrong but I do think it's a bit better to have a mature and functioning adult in the office.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 07, 2020, 02:11:46 pm
I imagine President Trump throwing a three day temper tantrum. Like a spoiled four year old. His staff keeping him away from any cell phone or computer. All the wile he's stomping around proclaiming he is the President and should be allowed to do what ever he wants.

And here he is!  :D

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCfPqi5UMAAvP3x.jpg)

Thanks Kobuk! That's getting printed and will be on a bulletin board at work. I'll  have to print several because I know they will get taken down.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 07, 2020, 08:36:34 pm
Two articles which I saw that are worth reading.

Will Biden be able to clean up Trump's mess?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/opinions/joe-biden-election-2020-clean-up-bergen/index.html

What will Trump do in his final 2-3 months of his presidency?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/opinions/what-trump-may-try-to-do-honig/index.html


Hilarious video that Kay Alett shared with me.  :D
https://i.imgur.com/cVpWHsp.mp4


In celebration of Biden's win, free round of non-alcoholic drinks and sandwiches at my cafe.  :D *passes out free food to Cause, Jade, Loc, and others*
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 07, 2020, 09:17:41 pm
Decided to go over to fox news network on line to see what headlines they're toting. Was surprised by a few of them. One on how the rest of the world is celebrating President elect Biden's win with large gathering and fireworks. But there were a few propaganda headlines as well. I especially like the 'lawyers will decide who won this election' one. But nothing on how many of Trump's suits have already been thrown out of court.  And then there was one on how CNN is only showing the Biden celebrations and not the Trump protests. Why would that be important to fox? Probably because CNN reported how Fox new network was making false claims on Trump winning states before the states made official statements. Or the report that showed how Fox's own TV personalities were confused over conflicting reports. Right wing media lying to the end. Lying so bad even their own couldn't keep up with it. And now there's a battle brewing over the far left pics for Biden's cabinet. The only cabinet pics Biden has talked about is one for fighting Covid-19. Watched the end of Biden's speech and went right over to Fox News network. Was really happy to see the ticker at the bottom listing all the law suits made by Trump being tossed out of courts across America. Only to hear the hosts say the election isn't over because of all the on going law suits. So if the far right can read they will read the truth. I find it brazen on how they can lie and show the truth at the same time.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 07, 2020, 09:19:59 pm
Think we were typing together Kabuk. I'll raise my Coca Cola and give a toast to and with you!

Old Rabbit. Thank you for keeping a record of all of this throughout Trump's presidency. Your work is a record of fallacy, bigotry and abuse by the worst president America has ever had. I'll raise my Coca Cola and toast you as well!
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 07, 2020, 09:36:59 pm
Two more noteworthy articles that are worth reading.

The electoral voting process still isn't over yet, folks. Here's what happens next.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/politics/electoral-college-timeline-2020-election/index.html

Trump lost and will eventually be out, but his "legacy" (Trumpism) will likely prevail for quite some time. Especially in the Republican Party.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/politics/republican-lawmakers-trump-legacy/index.html


Here's a question I want to ask everyone: 2024 is still years away, but what do you think of Kamala Harris's chances of running for President in the next election if Biden does not run for a second term? Would she make a good President? Don't just look at her political record of service, but also look at the "character" of the person. Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing her run for President.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 07, 2020, 09:41:51 pm
If I had any booze I'd be celebrating with hard liquor.
This is a victory. I may not think Biden will be fried gold but I think he will at least bring some grace and civility and humanity back to the office of president.

I find it funny that I have heard trumpers whining that they're gonna go to mexico after this.America has to be the only ship that the rats abandon when it stops sinking.



Here's a question I want to ask everyone: 2024 is still years away, but what do you think of Kamala Harris's chances of running for President in the next election if Biden does not run for a second term? Would she make a good President? Don't just look at her political record of service, but also look at the "character" of the person. Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing her run for President.

I don't really know anything about her and I think with some people it's difficult to gauge how effective they will be in office but hey I'm down for a woman of color being prez.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 07, 2020, 10:51:27 pm
QUOTE:
"I find it funny that I have heard trumpers whining that they're gonna go to mexico after this."

And then Mexico will say that they have to build a wall to keep out all the "nasty" Trumpers and that Donald Trump will end up paying for the wall.  :D


I so wish Weird Al Yankovic would make another parody of this video, but it would instead be titled "I Lost the Presidency, baby."  :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUZijEuNDQ
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Firelight on November 07, 2020, 11:51:03 pm
I welcome four years of Biden. He may not be Obama but he's way better then Trump or as dad I call him "Darth Cheeto."
As for the Vice prez she might make a good prez but idk atm. But for now a howl of victory!  :goldhowl:
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 08, 2020, 12:44:29 am
The one thing I haven't heard fox news say again. "Anyone who voted for Biden is stealing the presidency away from President Trump." It was clear they knew when they said it they were in hot water. This was a televised attack on our democracy. It's also very clear that fox news will continue to try to undermine our democracy. What isn't clear yet is whether or not the republican party will.

Republican party speculations and there legal outcomes

Saying they will stand with Trump and refuse to acknowledge Biden as president. = setting up a separatist government = treason.
Say they will stand united against Biden. = politics = nothing new.

So don't get your feathers ruffled over political nonsense. It would be nice but they are not dumb enough to commit treason. And seriously folks. Harris for president in 2024? Enjoy this moment of reality and ignore all the speculation and 'what ifs'.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 08, 2020, 10:02:30 am
A few other links for today's reading.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/11/politics/2020-vs-2016-election-map-charts/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/donald-trump-loss-election-2020/index.html

If there's a proverbial "nail in the coffin" so to speak that ended Trump's presidency, I believe it was his lack of leadership in handling the coronavirus situation. Not a good move with him trying to "play it down".  :P

The "main event" of the election is over. But the smaller battles are still going on: the House and the Senate. While the Dems still maintain a majority in the House, it is a "slim" majority. The Senate is a different situation. I am not exactly as optimistic about that. As Pelosi has said, "We may have lost the battle, but we won the war.".

What will Trump and/or the Republican Party do in future months and years? That is anybody's guess. This election has hurt them a lot. And chances are, they will find a way to come back in a vengeful state in 2024. But what will they do? More voter suppression? More conspiracy theories? More divisiveness? The list goes on and on.
One thing which I don't like (and I have a link to, but can't find it right now) is that the QAnon conspiracy movement has seeped into the Republican Party and Congress.  >:(   Conspiracy crap has no business being in any party or in Congress whatsoever.  >:(

I am so glad Trump is out.  :) This is like the American people telling a spoiled kid that No, you can't always get what you want, or No, you can't have that.
I am glad the American people stood up to Trump and told him NO.
It's a bitter pill to swallow, but Trump needed to hear it. But will he learn any lesson from it? Sadly, I doubt it.  :(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 08, 2020, 12:41:08 pm

 The Democrats can cheer a victory, but if they don't  work to improve the lives of 
those who gave them the win, namely people of color the GOP will regain the
white house in 2024. Where they will continue to reduce government for the benefit
of the super rich, and will continue to claim the Democrats are wanting to create a
socialist America.

I think Biden's choice of Harris for his running mate is why he won. He has said  he
plans to have diversity in his administration. This means more women, people of color
and various races common in our country. This is a good plan, but faces alone won't
be enough. We must deal with racism, and that alone will be difficult. He could put
millions to work by going after infrastructure, but I am sure the GOP will try to block
it.

Trump continues to claim voter fraud, but so far there isn't anything to prove his claims.
Vote counting was watched from the beginning by the GOP, and could be watched
online as well. So now the friends of Trump are wanting to claim the early vote ballots
were fraudulently created to give the win to Biden, though there is no evidence to
prove it.

 After the 2016 election Trump claimed his loss of the popular vote was due to fraud,
but even though he tried to prove it. He failed to do so. Trump just won't admit he could
lose at anything legitimately. I think he fears admitting to a loss makes him look bad.
Something he never wants to see. Well this time he lost the popular vote by 4 million
votes. Something else for him to worry over.

Biden is working to slow covid19, because he knows to improve the economy, the
virus has to be dealt with. The trouble is by the time he takes office another 250,000
deaths will have happened. Because Trump has no plan other than treatment and
vaccine to deal with it. Neither of which will be readily available till next year.

I am sure Biden will do all he can to get the public to wear masks. Science has shown
this one thing is nearly as effective as a vaccine would be. Sadly Trump has made this
political, so I am sure his supporters will be slow to accept it. Many have said they
look to the president for advice. So with Trump gone, will they follow Biden's advice?

I heard one of Trumps supporters state they have no plan to accept Biden as president.
So one might ask will they continue to believe Trump's lies? Already Trump's claim
the  virus would go away after the election has been shown to be a lie. Just one of
thousands he has told to his followers.

I am sure Trump will claim this election was stolen from him. A claim he will likely
make for the rest of his life. It's doubtful that his cult followers will continue to stand
with him over time. After all watching a sad old man cry isn't likely to hold much of
an audience.  Especially when they realize all he does is lie.

Covid19 is still expanding at a high rate. Over 122,000  infections yesterday and over
1000 deaths. People must follow safety guidelines, or this virus will continue to grow.
Yes many do survive the infection, but  many do not. This isn't the flue. Yes the flu kills
but there is a treatment and vaccine for it. Covid19 can affect the whole body, unlike the
flu which generally only affects the lungs.

Victims of covid19 can suffer organ damage as well as lung damage. So you might
not suffer seriously from an infection at the time, you could suffer lingering problems
for months, and some may end with a chronic illness.

In the U S infections are over 9,700,000 and over 240,000 deaths.
World wide infections are over 49,600,000 and over 1,200,000 deaths.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 08, 2020, 01:39:24 pm

I am so glad Trump is out.  :) This is like the American people telling a spoiled kid that No, you can't always get what you want, or No, you can't have that.
I am glad the American people stood up to Trump and told him NO.
It's a bitter pill to swallow, but Trump needed to hear it. But will he learn any lesson from it? Sadly, I doubt it.  :(

Sadly it isn't just trump that has to learn this lesson. It's his cult. They're going to be bitter and angry about this for years to come.
I hope that, if nothing else, these people will try to not make it a "us vs them" issue. I hope, but I know better... I suspect that even now many trumpers are starting to feel persecuted, imagining that somehow even though they're the loudest the "other side" was able to shout them down. Even though they have numbers the "other side" has more.
Some will just say that they outnumber the "other side" and that they won cause they cheated somehow but my many years in texas have shown me that some of the most stupid people will accept some logic to have an excuse to be afraid.

Biden's acceptance speech said it all - "To make progress we have to stop treating our opponents as enemies. They are not our enemies, they are americans."

And that is the attitude that we need to see more of going forward. I think that's what bothered me most about the trumpers, they were all rallied behind that clown ready to jump into war at his behest. It's bad enough that some cities saw shootings and killing in the streets, a militarized police force marching against peaceful protestors, and trump didn't have to say much to tip things to get the irrational to fly off the handle. Just a thumbs up from him and they take that as "The chief's given us the go!"

That's why I was concerned about a possible new civil war breaking out.
The thing that has been ringing in my ears most these past four years is words melvin, my father's father, said about my not supporting bush - "He's the president, you HAVE TO support him NO MATTER WHAT."
People genuinely believe that line of thinking. Course he dropped it the moment Obama took office and he was highly critical of Obama and he really hated me throwing his own words back in his face. But there's people who will legitimately support the president regardless of what he does. They just blindly accept "He's the president, we must obey."
Ironically one of the most unamerican mindsets its possible to have coming from the people who claim to be the most american.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 08, 2020, 03:05:49 pm
QUOTE:
"Biden's acceptance speech said it all - "To make progress we have to stop treating our opponents as enemies. They are not our enemies, they are americans."


I'd probably put it another way:

The American people are not Conservative.
They are not Liberal.
They are not Republican.
And they are not Democrat.
Titles like Republican, Democrat, Liberal, and Conservative are better left to politicians. The only "titles" that are needed to describe myself and other Americans is Civilian, Person, Individual, and most important of all........Human Being. :)

QUOTE:
"He's the president, you HAVE TO support him NO MATTER WHAT."

Nobody "has to" or "must" support/follow a President or any other elected leader. There's no law or regulation that says I must show fealty to an elected official. Or what? Somebody is going to point a gun to my head and force me to support someone? I don't think so.
As former early 20th century President Theodore Roosevelt once said, "Patriotism means to support the country. It does not mean to support the President or any other elected official."
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 08, 2020, 03:28:52 pm
Well said Kobuk, although I think you take me a bit out of context where I was quoting what my grandfather said. He's the one who said that we must always support the prez no matter what. When I said that it was specifically to throw his hypocrisy in his face because he didn't want to support Obama simply because he was black.
I personally I agree with you, that for us to genuinely make this a great country again we need to stop all of this "us vs them" attitude between democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, red, blue mentality.

Treating the president as some kind of figurehead who can do no wrong is just gonna lead us down bad roads. It's already happened many times. 2020 should be the year when americans finally open their eyes and all of us comprehend the ages old truth of "Those who do not learn from history's mistakes are forever doomed to repeat them".
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 08, 2020, 03:34:29 pm
Unfortuneately, I fear a lot of Trump supporters will stubbornly refuse to open their eyes. Case in point:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/trump-voters-react-to-election/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 08, 2020, 03:50:40 pm
Unfortuneately, I fear a lot of Trump supporters will stubbornly refuse to open their eyes. Case in point:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/08/politics/trump-voters-react-to-election/index.html

"We're heading towards socialism! We're going to be a communist country!" Just... wow :P
Now that is a fine vintage of idiot right there. The US is never going to become communist. What makes this even more laughable is I seriously doubt any of those people have enough income to really take advantage of the capitalist system. Capitalism has gone crazy as of late and there's no way that that's going away.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 08, 2020, 04:03:41 pm
What really gets me is the fear mentality that a lot of Trump supporters (or even some Biden supporters) have of what could happen when Biden becomes President next year in January.
I mean, you hear so much from people saying Biden will do this. Biden will do that. America will be socialist. Guns will be taken away under Biden. Biden wants to tax the hell out of America. And on and on and on and on.

Biden isn't even in the White House yet. Sure, him and Kamala Harris have said a lot and proposed a lot during their campaigns. But actions speak louder than words. What a candidate says and what they do are two different things. Trump has used fear very effectively to gain people's support of him and make people believe the Democrats are going to screw the country. But we really don't know what Biden will do until he's in the Oval office, sitting at his desk, and putting pen to paper.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 08, 2020, 05:09:03 pm
All of those fears you mentioned Kobuk, I remember when people said the exact same thing about Obama. "Obama's take our guns!"
And don't get me wrong with what I'm about to say, I like guns. I enjoy them very much. I've fired guns, I enjoy shooting, I love the intricate engineering of a firearm. I like the feeling of pulling the slide back and chambering a round to arm the weapon. Heck one of my favorite games is Receiver, a game that is based entirely around high fidelity to gun mechanics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VstiGn7TBno&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNG_FRyKrao&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtHlhWKBWyw&feature=youtu.be

Some videos of the first game I made demonstrating what I'm talking about with the gun mechanics in this game. And no, it isn't VR, you control with mouse and keyboard.

Anyway, all that said, with all of the gun violence that has happened in the US as of late, I think we could stand to lose a few guns and have some tighter gun and ammo control. My own hometown of santa fe texas had a shooting. That breaks my heart.  :'(

I love guns, but I don't love this country's fanaticism with guns.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 08, 2020, 09:12:22 pm
Twitter will no longer delete or block Trump. This is a really good thing. First his fan base can no longer say he's a victim. Secondly Trump's own words can now be used as evidence against him. Right wing media has not made the statement "Anyone who voted for Biden stole the Presidency from Trump" again. They new fully this was a direct attack on our democracy. They have switch gears. Trying, allong with Trump, to defraud the election process itself. It's like going from first to second degree murder. And yes it can still be legally seen as treason. Or depending on Trump's behavior in the coming weeks, 'aiding and imbedding'. With Trump's record of off the wall statements it would not be impossible for him to say something else that could land him in real trouble. Right wing media isn't stupid. They are having guests say all the stuff they themselves can get in legal trouble for. However like the statement above they made about voters they can and will eventually hang themselves. Agreeing with someone who is clearly defrauding or attacking our democracy is 'aiding and imbedding'.

President elect Biden promises to take executive actions to undo Trump's actions. Or in reality what Trump was able to get past the court system. You know.  They are the same people who kept telling him 'no, this is not constitutional. You can't do that". These are the same people who Trump claims will declare him President. It's like trying to find a corner in a round room.

Kay there is noting wrong with guns. I've owned a few. Was even a member of the NRA. I have quite a few friends who own well over 100  guns each. Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns. And before that people killed people with knives and swords. And right here before this place was called America people killed people with stone weapons and arrows. Tougher laws and gun control of any kind wont stop this. Tougher laws on gun violence will slow it down. But that's the best we all can hope for. Lets take this into a more fandom relevant scenario. To stop the spread of underage furry art we pass a bill limiting the amount of and making people register the art they have. This action treats any artist or collector as a criminal for the act of creating or collecting furry art. This is not right or fair for anyone.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 09, 2020, 03:31:09 am
Kay there is noting wrong with guns. I've owned a few. Was even a member of the NRA. I have quite a few friends who own well over 100  guns each. Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns. And before that people killed people with knives and swords. And right here before this place was called America people killed people with stone weapons and arrows. Tougher laws and gun control of any kind wont stop this. Tougher laws on gun violence will slow it down. But that's the best we all can hope for.

Well as I said, I am not against guns. I like guns. I think the better route to go down is to encourage more education about firearms and try to make people more responsible with their guns.
But I only brought that topic up because the extremist conservatives seem terrified that democrats are gonna try and "terk der gerns". Which is just one of many symptoms of the issues between left and right. I am more of a centrist if anything. There's stuff liberal about and stuff I'm conservative about. I just can't imagine how anyone can see an "all or nothing" attitude as beneficial.

Left Wing. Right Wing. We're all on the same bird people. Can't we please find some middle ground so we can straighten up and fly right before we hit a mountain or something?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 09, 2020, 09:33:00 am
Hmmmm. This doesn't sound very good.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/election-2020-donald-trump-joe-biden-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 09, 2020, 11:37:40 am

As I expected Trump is going to start more campaign style rally's to show his followers
a pile of fake ballots presumably tied to dead people. I am sure  they will eat it  right 
up. I expect Trump to beg them to go out and protest as well. Trump can get by with claims that the Democrats used dead people to win, if will make a good show
 at a rally, but if they take made up ballots to a court of law, someone will likely go to
jail.

Today the Trump campaign is filing another law suit in Pennsylvania. I think he is
doing this to please his supporters, because he hasn't any evidence to support the
law suit.

Trump plans to send his own people to do recounts, but even if the states allow
Trump's people to do the recounting, You can be sure the Democrats will be watching
them closely. Because none of the numbers are close enough to realistically change
the outcome with a recount.

Sadly Trump's followers all seem to  be parroting Trump and the far right media. As
if none of them have a mind of their own, or want to believe anyone but Trump. This
is typical of a cult mentality, and will be slow to change. I think it was Trump's plan to
create a cult following. This is likely why he has continued his rally's over the years.
To keep his cult followers from slipping away.

News about a vaccine that is 90% effective has been released. This would be
great,  but tests have to be done to see if the vaccine works as well for older people
and children.

Also how long will this vaccine protect people? What if
someone has a early infection, will it stop that infection?
These and other questions must be resolved.


The stock market is going skyward over this due to if true will
return the economy to nearly normal. Yes Trump is already claiming credit because
of his warp speed plan. Though there was a slight tie, no real  government support was
involved. I am sure Trump is upset that this news came a week to late to help his
re-election.

In the US infections are nearly 10 million, and deaths are nearly 240,000 with
infection rates of covid19 still climbing.

Runoff elections for two senators in Georgia will happen on January 5. If the GOP
hold on, Biden will be blocked at every turn by Moscow Mitch. The GOP leader that
 has a history of blocking reasonable Democrat plans for years. Already the GOP is pouring millions of dollars into trying to  hold on to these seats. Money may not be enough though as the people of Georgia  understand what is at stake, and are
showing their desire to flip the senate to democratic control.

The GOP has been trying to scare people into believing the
Democrats want to create a socialist America. The problem
is, many people don't even understand socialism. Socialism is where the
government owns  all businesses, and run by people from the upper class.
This kind of society destroys incentive. All the Democrats want is to
make health care a right, and to aid the disadvantaged. Yes this has
socialist overtones,  but is far from true socialism. People should
realize government often must run some things for the good of
the people. The police, Fire departments,City utilities, and public
schools. otherwise there would be chaos.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 09, 2020, 02:53:39 pm
Trump just fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper. This was expected, but not surprising. The both of them have not seen eye-to-eye in the past.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/trump-fires-esper/index.html

Biden's transition can not go forward till a certain piece of paper is signed. How much you want to make a bet Trump will refuse to the bitter end?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/ascertainment-trump-biden-transition/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/donald-trump-election-transition/index.html

The fight for Obamacare is about to begin. What will the Supreme Court do? Or I should say, what will Trump's appointees do?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/barrett-kavanaugh-gorsuch-obamacare-supreme-court/index.html

Biden announces his coronavirus stategy and response team.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/09/joe-biden-coronavirus-task-force-nr-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-results-and-news-11-09-20/h_9e69845af33118b3fd6ec0710cb0aa49
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/biden-coronavirus-advisers-experts-rick-bright/index.html

Pfizer says it has a vaccine that is at least 90% effective. Trump is already spin doctoring that and trying to take credit for it. 90% may seem good. But I'd rather see more testing done and wait till the vaccine is 95-98% before I'd ever take it. How much you want to bet Trump will use this news and say we now have a vaccine ready (when we don't) and tell people masks aren't needed anymore (when they are)? It's going to be several more months before a vaccine could be ready for the American people.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-effective/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 09, 2020, 05:14:53 pm
As I said before, Espers firing was expected, but not surprising. This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg of Donald Trump's rage. The next 2 to 2 1/2 months will see him issuing more firings and making more rash and illogical decisions which will hurt democracy in the U.S. and people's lives.
I expect him to fire FBI director Christopher Wray next.
Then fire the head of the CIA.
Trump has had confrontations with those two people in the past.

This is Trump setting a "scorched earth" before Biden gets in office. If you think firings are bad now, then you ain't seen nothing yet. What could be worse? Well, probably don't look for him to revive the stimulus issue and help get Americans back to work and offer them financial help. And don't expect Trump to do anything more about the coronavirus situation either. He's probably thinking: "Well, we have a new vaccine from Pfizer, so now the government doesn't have to do anything anymore.".

Trump's only concern is the election. That's it. Nothing else matters to him. I'm not sure I understand Trump's fixation with Georgia. Even if he did somehow win that state (which he won't), the electoral votes from Georgia still won't help him get over 270. I suspect his fixation on the state has to do with the Senate instead and the two races that are still to be determined there.

Other misc. news links:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/mark-esper-fired-donald-trump/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/09/carl-bernstein-trump-election-result-behavior-sot-nr-vpx.cnn

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/trump-campaign-future/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 09, 2020, 05:35:40 pm
I saw these and nearly fell out of my chair laughing  :D

(https://i.imgur.com/aBIkawH.png?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/62LGUOM.png?1)

Mmmm that is a sweet sweetmeat there. Very nice tunnel vision y'all got when you think the US is the only country that is on the internet or part of the world.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on November 09, 2020, 09:13:15 pm
Yeah and the reject missed the further context provided by means of comparative countries in the population results.  You know...Armenia and Yerevan, neither of which are in USA!
Is this what people call confirmation bias? Seeing what you want to see out of the data, despite all evidence to the contrary?

And to rub more salt in the wound is that judging by the profile pics, the one who knows what the heck is going on is a young guy, unlike his supposedly better elder? Haha!
Sorry. When I was younger people called me "young and dumb" and I hated it.  Today I recognize the intelligence many young people have!  Hurray for someone who paid attention that Georgia is also a country!
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 10, 2020, 03:27:07 am
Kay, it's all good. The NRA, years ago when I was a member, had yearling gun safety events. For all ages. They did a lot of good back then. They became the right wing circus they are today. Not to protect our rights to own guns. But to keep people from registering their fire arms so they would not have to live up to their contractual agreement. It was all about money. Not about anyone's rights. And thank you for posting this twitter feed. That speaks volumes.  :)

Kobuk, no vaccine will ever be 100% effective or safe. That is the unfortunate truth.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 10, 2020, 11:43:02 am
More headlines for today that are worth reading.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/mitch-mcconnell-donald-trump-conceding/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/donald-trump-transition-joe-biden-presidency/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/republican-congress-investigation-senate/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/senate-results-majority-democrats-election/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/what-matters-november-9/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/10/jen-psaki-biden-harris-transition-gsa-trump-ac360-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/trump-gop-after-2020/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/10/burnett-monologue-trump-biden-transition-emily-murphy-sot-ebof-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/10/bill-barr-investigation-voter-fraud-2020-election-ebof-vpx.cnn

I know I've said it here in this thread or in other threads that I believe we may be headed toward another 2nd American Civil War, but the more I hear and read of Trump's refusal to concede and his spreading of lies and falsehoods as well as members of the Republican Party that are also continuing to back Trump and helping to spread his rhetoric, the more I believe it could happen. Or maybe.........it already has. Maybe not a Civil War with people taking to the streets and shootings guns, etc. But rather what I would call a "silent" Civil War where the weapons right now are words, rhetoric, and social media. And the more and worse the rhetoric gets, the more liklyhood we actually may be in an actual shooting war with civilian shooting civilian, brother vs. brother, neighbor vs. neighbor, family vs. family, and so on.

You can choose to disregard it all you want. But Trump and his supporters (Republican Party and/or civilians) are digging in and will not give up. Not one inch. And they will use whatever "weapons" they have at their disposal to dispute the election results and claim that Trump is the official winner.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 10, 2020, 12:04:20 pm

Barr, Trump's attorney general is feeling a sharp tug  on his leash  from Trump to give
states an excuse to not certify election results if the justest department finds any
irregularity in vote counts. This is likely just more gas on the fire from Trump to stir
up his base even more. Because there isn't any legitimate evidence to change election
results. Yet the justest department could declare an investigation without any good
reason. Which would give the GOP and far right media more talking points to support
their man.

Trump's firing of his defense secretary was expected, but odd after Trump loss of his
election. likely just more of Trump's vindictive acts against anyone who opposes him.
More firings are expected, which puts the government and the nation at risk during
a change in administrations. As usual Trump's ego always comes first.

The GOP senators in Georgia are complaining because the states GOP secretary of
state hasn't done more to stop wins by the Democrats. So  far the secretary is standing
strong claiming he is doing his job, and won't resign. It's good anytime a member
of the republican party plays by the rules, Especially when they are under pressure not
to.

The president elect is working hard to prepare for his inauguration. Even though Trump
is working to slow it,still claiming he hasn't lost.  This childish reaction by Trump isn't
doing him or the country any good. As we figured Trump will likely have to be led from
the White House on January 20 still  refusing to
admit he lost.

Covid19 continues to rage across the country, with hospitals filling as well. Even if the
vaccine turns out well, it will take months to make it available to the public. One big
problem is the vaccine must be stored at 100 degrees below zero, much colder than
the average cold storage unit. So hospitals and clinics will have to make preparations
just to store the vaccine once they have it. Also everyone will have to get a booster
shot about a month after the initial injection. I have a hunch a lot of people will fail to
get the booster at the proper time.

  Infections are over 10 million in the U S, and deaths are over 240,000 and growing.
Biden made a public announcement asking the people  to wear masks and follow
safety protocols. Because masks protect people almost as well as a vaccine. It's not
just Biden asking people, governors in many states are as well.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 10, 2020, 12:48:16 pm


I know I've said it here in this thread or in other threads that I believe we may be headed toward another 2nd American Civil War. Or maybe.........it already has. Maybe not a Civil War with people taking to the streets and shootings guns, etc. But rather what I would call a "silent" Civil War where the weapons right now are words, rhetoric, and social media. And the more and worse the rhetoric gets, the more liklyhood we actually may be in an actual shooting war with civilian shooting civilian, brother vs. brother, neighbor vs. neighbor, family vs. family, and so on.

Sounds like a Cold War. A Cold Civil War. Fought with information, words, deception, lies and espionage.
Though considering the way one side behaves I would not call them silent in any sense of the word.
Though if there was no shooting and trump and his cult just all got together in one spot and bugged off to a different place and founded their own country with blackjack and hookers that'd be fine with me.

Trump: You will make me the rightful president or I'm leaving with all of my supporters!
US: Bye-den!  :D

Trump even said so himself that losing to Biden would be so humiliating that he might leave the country. "Can you imagine losing to a guy like that?" He said with a chuckle. "I might have to leave the country!". Whelp, you lost. Hit the road cause you're out!
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 10, 2020, 03:09:09 pm
If Trump ever did leave the country, it'd be no surprise he'd probably go to Russia and his "friend" Putin.  :P
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 10, 2020, 04:39:36 pm
Oh I would love that I really would. I can just see him running to Russia and asking Putin to help him and Putin just throws him in a prison or uses him as some kind of political puppet and Trump would just be like  :o
Or like the surprised Pikachu face.

But getting back on topic, I am concerned that his cult is gonna do something really dumb in the next few months. These are not people who take losing well or graciously and I don't think they are going to just accept this.

I am hopeful that once trump is out of office and he no longer has certain legal protections he'll be prosecuted to the fullest and harshest extent of the law.
And as OR reminds us, the coronavirus is still here. We have a lot of work to do before it's taken care of.

The hurricane is starting pass but there's a lot of devastation in its wake and there's a greasy orange stain that ain't coming out for a while.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 11, 2020, 12:16:25 pm

Trump continues his tweets claiming voter fraud, even though there is no evidence to
support his claims. Reports are, no state governor is giving Trump's  claims of fraud
any support.

The news media is making a big deal about Biden's transition being blocked by Trump.
Biden appears to be dealing with it better than the media is. As we know the news
media will do almost anything to get people to watch, even to exaggerate problems.

Is Trump putting our troops at risk by firing top people in the pentagon just because
they aren't totally loyal to him? Trump should know the military isn't going to follow
illegal orders. Unlike China or Russia our military isn't political. I do think Trump was
wanting to fill top positions in our military so they would follow him without  question.
Another 4 years and he might have succeeded. Above all a dictator must have full
military support, and I am sure Trump knows this.

The CDC is promoting mask wearing in that it both protects the wearer  and those
who they are around. Sadly Trump allowed mask wearing to become politicized.
So it's likely those who still support him will be slow to follow CDC recommendations.

Reports are Trump is refusing to admit defeat so he can raise millions of dollars he
will need fighting many many law suits once he is removed from power. Most of these
law suits will be civil and not political. He is going to be desperate for money because
many of his rich supporters will be gone. There is worries that Trump may try to sell
state secrets for favors and perhaps to settle debts.

Trump plans to start a nation wide network where he can continue to speak to his
supporters. This will likely be online, but may find it's way to cable.  Once out of
office Trump will need a source of income, and food for  his ego. So we can expect he
will continue to have rally's now and then. Reports are he  plans to run again in 2024,
but to do so he can't be charged with breaking laws. I am sure he will attempt to
pardon himself, or resign and let his VP pardon him.  This will save him from federal
charges, but not state ones.

Covid19 is continuing to spread, and grow. Even exceeding what it was last spring.
Doctors fear this is just the beginning with the start of the flu season. There are claims
there will be over 400,000 deaths by the end of the year. Already infections are
increasing, and over 130,000 a day and deaths hit 1400  yesterday.  Even with a
vaccine coming, this pandemic may exceed the number of deaths caused by the
pandemic of a hundred years ago.


Title: pif.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 13, 2020, 02:22:46 am
I just saw this and had to share because it made me laugh

(https://i.imgur.com/B99V0AP.jpeg)

Trump and his lot are also bragging about winning alaska and yet when it comes to electoral votes he is still way waaay behind Biden. He can talk all he wants about "winning ___ a lot" but the numbers show that he lost the race by "a lot".
"Trump can still win!" cries of the cultists reminds me of the scene where Homer and Bart are chasing the BBQ pig. "It's just a little dirty, it's still good! It's still good! It's just a little slimy, it's still good! It's still good! It's just a little airborne, it's still good! It's still good!"
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 13, 2020, 04:46:09 am
Thank you Kay. That is definitely going on the board at work. After a very ruff night at work you made my day SO much better.

President Trump is loosing everything. Including respect. Both Dem and Rep are telling President elect Biden they will keep him informed. Everything as if he was already the president.

There will be no cold or and other kind of war in America over this. Trump isn't putting our troops or anyone else, besides himself, at risk. There is no 'one man' to make all the decisions in any part of our government or military structure.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Loc on November 13, 2020, 06:03:44 am
President Trump is loosing everything. Including respect.
Oh come now. He lost that a LONG time ago.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 13, 2020, 12:40:15 pm


Covid19 is continuing to rage, over 150,000 infections reported yesterday,
and over 1500 deaths. In another week these numbers may very well double. Hospitalizations
is at 65,000  and with these numbers hospitals are at capacity. So by next week
where are sick people going to go? It's not just beds, it's health care workers who are
not machines. Without rest they are getting sick. Also people with other illnesses
aren't  able to get the care they need. 

A doctor on fox news was reported to say people who have had the virus don't need
to wear a mask. This doctor should hang his head in shame, and should lose his
license to practice medicine. Just because a person has had the virus doesn't keep
them from spreading it or getting it again. A 25 year old man caught covid19 a second
time six weeks later and died. So until there is a vaccine available everyone should
wear a mask and follow safety rules to protect us all.

You might not wish to believe covid19 is real, so go to a hospital and see for
yourself if you dare. Trump claimed this would end with the election, so people should
know by now  it was a dirty lie. Because Trump doesn't care if you live or die, just as
long as you support him.

The GOP claim the democrats commit fraud, but in reality the GOP commits election
fraud, and dirty tricks in nearly every election.  If you can get them to admit doing
this, they claim they have to do it or they couldn't win any election. This is stupid,
 because  all they have to  do is run in support of policies that the public would support,
but they  aren't interested in what the public wants. They want to use public office to
obtain  power and money for themselves and their rich friends. This is why we need term limits
for all political offices, as is people try to make a career of public office which is wrong.
Because even good  people can be corrupted over time.

The law suits Trump is pushing aren't going anywhere because Trump's lawyers
have to admit there isn't evidence of fraud when the  judge asks for it. If a lawyer tells
a lie in court he or she could lose their license to practice law, and perhaps even
held in contempt for doing so. These suits are just Trump trying to please his
supporters so they will send him money. Trump is going to do all he can to keep his
cult intact, even after he has to leave the White House. The loss of his  supporters
would likely mean bankruptcy for him and perhaps even his family.

So we can expect Trump to bad mouth any republican who  decides to work with the
Democrats over the next 4 years, and if he succeeds in hurting the Democrats or
the GOP he will take credit for it. You can be sure Trump will try to run for  president in
2024. Unless he is convicted of a crime.  Which would make him ineligible to run.

The GOP is holding a  indoor rally in Georgia trying to build support to re-elect two
senators that are in a run off election in January. Of course few are wearing masks
and are sitting next to each other. So it's likely they are helping spread the virus more
than they are helping the GOP candidates. Hopefully these guys don't win, because
they are  corrupt people out to help themselves instead of doing their job.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 14, 2020, 12:54:22 pm

The virus is still spreading, and Trump is staying with the idea that the public at large
will gain immunity if the virus is allowed to run wild. In the meantime hundreds of
thousands will die, and  there is no guarantee this will work. After all other corona
viruses continue to make people  sick, and some die from them.

It is true a shutdown would be bad, but the GOP leader of the senate doesn't want to
provide relief that could be used to help those businesses from going broke. The
GOP isn't interested in helping people who are being affected by  covid19. they
only want to help their rich supporters.

It appears many white women, especially those in the south support the far right.
Perhaps they are just voting to please their husbands. I know many women do support
their husbands politically. Perhaps to keep the peace, it's hard to say, but I know a lot
of men expect their wives to support them. It appears Black women don't let their men
tell them how to vote nearly as much as white women do. Or men of color and their
wives tend to be in agreement more.

The one fault I find with Democrats is they appear to be afraid to stand  up to the
GOP. The GOP will cheat and lie, while the Democrats stand by trying to play nice.
They should know nice guys tend to lose. They should be out there doing all they can
to expose the GOP's dirty tricks. As is they  seem to just let the media do the job.
The Democrats need to fight the  far right media with their own media organization.
It has been said the Democrats tend to bring a knife to a gun fight. Well this will get
them shot down every time.

Trump plans to create a media network just for the purpose to continue his lies and
in support of his cult. If the Democrats stand by not opposing this nonsense by Trump,
he could gain support over time, and if allowed to run in2024 could win. Reports say
he plans to declare he is running in 2024 once he has officially lost this election. This
will keep him in the news,and help support any media network he wants to start. If the
GOP is smart they will force Trump to run as a third party candidate, but I doubt if they
have the guts to do it.

The internet has given people a way to
communicate, but bad people are using it to spread lies to gain power and public
support. If good people don't work to oppose this we could see fascism destroy
democracies around the world. Like communism, bad people will use fascism to gain
support from people who think it is a way to get a society they want. Though a country
run by a strong man dictator is more efficient. Human nature will turn most good
dictators bad. Then the people are forced to live with them, or fight to depose them.

In the U S there over 10,700,000 infections and over 244,000 deaths.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 14, 2020, 02:39:24 pm
Quote
It is true a shutdown would be bad, but the GOP leader of the senate doesn't want to
provide relief that could be used to help those businesses from going broke. The
GOP isn't interested in helping people who are being affected by  covid19. they
only want to help their rich supporters.

G.O.P  Greed Over People
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Varg the wanderer on November 14, 2020, 05:16:26 pm
The internet has given people a way to communicate, but bad people are using it to spread lies to gain power and public support.

I find it rather amusing that what you consider "lies" is backed up with hard evidence, math, and sworn statements from witnesses, yet what you consider as "truth" in regards to President Trump has turned out to be gossip, appropriate action taken out of context, or just flat out lies when examined in court.

Trump's followers seem to be cult-like in many ways, yes, but you're looking at them as if they were some small, isolated, brainwashed population. What you're not recognizing is those 73 million people are angry, and have been angry for a very long time. They've been ostracized, censored, falsely called names like "bigot" and "racist". They've had people in government, the media, and big technical corporations persecuting them because they fail to have the same opinions as others. Remember the Citizens' United case under Obama, where they were sued for being critical of a Democrat's administration? Remember how it was championed afterwards on how that ruling would be over turned? Conservatives haven't forgotten that. Nor have they forgotten a very long list of other grievances against them.

Now there is clear, demonstrable fraud in this election, but they are being told to shut up, knuckle under, and accept a Biden win. If the election is audited and it turns out he really did win, then that may happen, but to disregard cries for examination only makes it that much clearer that the Demonrats really are hiding something. You would think they would be just as interested in an honest election as the Republicans, especially after foaming at the mouth for the past four years over the "russian collusion".

So now there are 73 million Americans that are tired of being lied to, censored, persecuted, and attacked. They held an election and voted for the person they elected to fight for them, but it appears that the other side would rather cheat than loose. Not only that, but now those 73 million are being gas lighted to and told they should "reconcile", "unite", and "heal".

I've been abused. I know what the cycle is like, and I can recognize it here. So can those 73 million.

What you are looking at is a recipe for civil war. One side is being fed a lie: that the election is over with (it's not) and Biden has won (maybe he has, maybe he hasn't). The other side is being told to shut up, stop seeking the truth or integrity, and surrender. They're being told to accept what was clearly a fraudulent election.

"Unity" and "Healing" won't happen until there is honesty from the media and big tech. Until then there will be no surrender; there will be no quarter.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 14, 2020, 08:12:13 pm
When you have a President who guts the military budget to build a wall. Then tells everyone the democrats gut the military. When you have a president with a four year history of executive actions that have been challenged and thrown out because they were unconstitutional. When you have a president who spent his first two years loosing appointed staff members. Some of these "best and brightest people I know" are still in prison. When you have a president who separated children from their parents then openly blamed Obama for it.

When you have a political party who openly fights every effort to control this pandemic. And a president who said "The media will stop talking about this pandemic as soon as the election is over with."

When you have a president who claimed four years ago that any vote for Clinton was proof of fraud. When you have a President Who just claimed "Any vote for Biden is stealing the election from me". When you have a political party who backs a president who makes claims without proof of any election fraud. When you have a president who is only suing states he lost in. When every suit is thrown out of courts because of lack of evidence.

If there was 'clear, demonstrable evidence" it would be clear to everyone. Including the republican party members who are being called out for "allowing democrats to win." Then why is there no clear and demonstrable evidence in the states trump won? The only states who have "evidence" against them are the states Trump lost. How can anyone not see through this childish ploy. There is no country wide call for a recount. Only in the states Trump lost in. Because, according to Trump, any vote against him is fraudulent. What a pathetic joke. So there are 74 million Americans who will believe anything they are told. As long as it's by who they want to believe. Any and all other information is fake.

Your right. America is fed up with this. That's why Biden won. And no amount of propaganda and lying is going to change that.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 14, 2020, 11:28:47 pm
Biden won. End of story. Nothing that Trump or his supporters or the Republican Party can do or say to change that. They all need to stop their crybaby attitudes and dry their eyes and get over the election. The election is done and over with.

Trump lost.
Biden won.
Deal with it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 15, 2020, 03:12:36 am
And once he's out of office trump is gonna have to deal with all of the consequences of his actions and all the mounting legal crap coming his way.

(https://i.imgur.com/cP3JzaH.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 15, 2020, 12:16:54 pm

The friends of  Trump had a rally in the nations capital yesterday. As usual Trump's
people lied about crowd sizes, claiming there was over a million when it was just a
few thousand. This discrepancy was blamed on fake news and their lies.

Trump has from the start claiming the national news always delivered fake news. This
is an obvious distraction from his lies, and conspiracy claims. Sadly Trump has and
continues to use his con artist talents to convince  his followers to only believe him
and the far right media.

Trump continues his lies claiming he didn't lose the election, and begs for money to
pay for his fake law suits. Trump is looking at bankruptcy, and civil suits once he
leaves office. So he needs his followers to send him millions  to cover his personal
costs. Trump may even try to sell state secrets to help pay the hundreds of millions
he owes, apparently to foreign banks or oligarchs. If he is caught doing this he will be
spending the  rest of his life in prison.

If The GOP continues to control the U S senate, little or no legislation will be passed
for the benefit of anyone but the rich friends of the GOP. Little or no relieve will be
sent to help the average American to deal with job loss due to covid19. The senate
leader has no plans to help people with health care, rent payments, utility payments,
or to help pay for food for their families. The GOP continues to send billions to big
business while the average American goes without.  The senate leader claims the
government can't afford to spend trillions to help states, communities and the average
American deal with covid19. This is a lie, because the country is able to spend the
money in spite of Moscow Mitch and his lies.

Trump continues to block president elect Biden with the transfer of power. Apparently
hoping it will aid his support for a possible run in2024. Either that or just to convince
his followers to  send him a lot of money. His followers won't like to see him go to jail,
but even though he will manage a pardon for himself it won't save him from state
crimes which will have nothing to do with politics.  Though I am sure Trump will want
to claim it to be so.

I have a hunch Trump will leave the white house before January 20 to avoid the disgrace
of being led from the building. I hope the Biden team have the White House fumigated
prior to entering it. As is it's filled with the covid19 virus.

In the U S there are over 10,900,000 infections and over 245,000 deaths.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Varg the wanderer on November 15, 2020, 12:25:55 pm
Biden won. End of story. Nothing that Trump or his supporters or the Republican Party can do or say to change that. They all need to stop their crybaby attitudes and dry their eyes and get over the election. The election is done and over with.

Trump lost.
Biden won.
Deal with it.


News agencies do not determine the winner of elections. Neither Biden nor Trump have won anything until one concedes or the state legislation bodies ratify the election December 14. James Madison was no fool. Learn civics. It will serve you well.

And once he's out of office trump is gonna have to deal with all of the consequences of his actions and all the mounting legal crap coming his way.

Don't you find it disturbing that people like AOC are demanding a list of Trump's supporters for persecution, or that David Plouffe said "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."? Destroying political opposition and anyone who believes differently than you do is perhaps the clearest identifier of tyranny in existence. It was practiced by most recently by Hitler, Lennin, Stalin, Mao, and many other oppressive regimes after rising to power in the 20th century, and that's just the most recent examples. While you may enjoy it when you're party is in power, if things were reversed and you were persecuted for supporting Biden, denied aid, employment, the right to enter grocery stores, etc, I don't doubt the screaming and shrieking of "unfairness" would be loud and clear.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Varg the wanderer on November 15, 2020, 12:35:47 pm
The friends of  Trump had a rally in the nations capital yesterday.

Tell me, Old Rabbit, was the Democrat violence on the peaceful protesters in Washington DC last night justified?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 15, 2020, 06:29:18 pm
Don't you find it disturbing that people like AOC are demanding a list of Trump's supporters for persecution, or that David Plouffe said "It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again."? Destroying political opposition and anyone who believes differently than you do is perhaps the clearest identifier of tyranny in existence. It was practiced by most recently by Hitler, Lennin, Stalin, Mao, and many other oppressive regimes after rising to power in the 20th century, and that's just the most recent examples. While you may enjoy it when you're party is in power, if things were reversed and you were persecuted for supporting Biden, denied aid, employment, the right to enter grocery stores, etc, I don't doubt the screaming and shrieking of "unfairness" would be loud and clear.

This is not about destroying trump as a person. This is about destroying his tyrannical mentality. Trump has repeatedly attempted to make plays for more power and set himself up as a dictator, even now he is removing people from important offices and replacing them with yes-men. He tried to destabilize and dismantle the USPS in order to stop the possibility of mail in voting happening because he knew that democrats were going to mail in their votes he wanted to destroy the system that they were going to use for voting.

Why? Because mail in votes aren't as easy to "hack" or change like electronic voting machines are. Then when he couldn't get that done in time he spent months talking about how mail in voting was fraudulent without any evidence to back up his claims, hoping his followers would just blindly lap it up which they did. He suggested that democrats would "steal" the election away from him and that if he lost the election it was because people cheated. His followers went off the rails with how crazy they were persecuting Biden supporters and all trump had to do was smile at them and they took that as encouragement.

That alone is galling enough but trump has done worse. Even before the elections in 2016 he was tweeting about how fraudulent Obama was all that "show us your birth certificate" stuff.
He played on the publics fears of immigration to whip people into a frenzy of america being overrun and selling himself as the only cure.
He has used these fears of immigrants to build up a steadily growing population of white supremacists in this country. He refuses to denounce these nazis because he knows they are his most rabid supporters.

And this isn't even getting into all of his sexual misconduct. We all know that he has gone on record as saying he believes because of his status he is entitled to just grab any woman he wants and he has done this multiple times throughout his presidency.
Not that Trump is the only man to take office and do that but he is one of the most shameless about it.

He has used and abused his position as presidency for personal profit and put money in his back pocket and the pockets of his family, again not the first to do so but he is more blatant about it.

Do I need to go on?

How about the complete lack of respect to other world leaders who are not despots? Do you remember the disrespect he showed Queen Elizabeth II? I mean it's one thing to disrespect a sweet old lady, it's one thing to disrespect a monarch, but to disrespect both in one move is some real crap.

He has colluded with russia and obstructed the pursuit of justice regarding investigations of his collusion on a number of occasions.

Trump has engaged in criminal behavior at worst and gross negligence concerning his responsibilities to the american people at best.

He should be put in prison to pay for his crimes. This is not a political statement, this is about justice. Plain and simple.

If you want the full list go back and read every single one of Old Rabbits posts here, this man has done an astounding job reporting everything.
Or you can read this nifty list |  https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-978

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The friends of  Trump had a rally in the nations capital yesterday.

Tell me, Old Rabbit, was the Democrat violence on the peaceful protesters in Washington DC last night justified?

I'll throw in my two cents here on this as well. NO

Violence on any peaceful protest is not warranted. I don't care if the trumpers have been doing it to the democrats. "They hit me first" didn't work in kindergarten, not gonna work here.
There is a difference between using violence to defend yourself when crap goes down and using violence on people who you don't like. Those people who decided to get violent against the maga protestors who were peaceful should be charged with assault plain and simple.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on November 15, 2020, 07:58:30 pm
I won't lie.  I have always disliked politics.  And because of this I do not know a huge amount about it compared to those who eat, breathe,  and live it.  I took civics in high school.  I think it should be required still,  and again in college ( along with money management).  I found civics sinfully boring,  I get it is important,  but I still dread talking about it.  I see it divide so many people,  friends become enemies,  families can be torn up.

We have a system.  Once all votes are counted,  and a winner is declared that is out of the margin of errors, then we all can move on.   I think fairness,  a chance of change is our countries best feature  (or one of them) and not only our country, but others!

If who you didn't vote for won,  ok. It's the system. Next time,  vote again.  If you voted for who won,  good for you,  but remember some one lost.

For the last 4 years I've worked in jobs that are heavily geared towards military stuff.  All around me are people who are mostly Republican.  Ok. They are supporting troops. Ok. I'm actually an independent.  I vote for who I want,  not along a party line.  This means I often am not in line with people around me at work on a few issues.   I speak little of my views because I knew most people would get so very heated they might hate me,  stop working with me,  stop being my friend. And we need to work together.  I just say...i voted. 

Violence is violence.  Hatred is never good despite your reasons. We need to just come together,  not apart.  Make America strong.  Be strong yourself.  Help others.  Lift up your fellow human,  not crush them under paw.


I wish all Americans could discuss things with less emotion,  and move on.  Let's solve things.  Stop feeling so much that people get butt hurt over every little thing. People need to grow a thicker skin,  and think more. 

I wish we were a species that naturally got along with each other.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 15, 2020, 09:49:43 pm
QUOTE: "I wish we were a species that naturally got along with each other."

Good luck with that. That might work in STAR TREK, but not right now in reality. It might take decades or even centuries before we as a human species ever learn to set aside our vast differences and get along with one another. But even then if we did all get along, it still might not be 100% perfect.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on November 16, 2020, 12:18:30 pm
Oh I know...I wanted to point out how bees can work together well , and ants as well, but humans not so much.  Politics I feel arises from the fact we do not get along, and we are trying to discuss things and find a way forward.  One aspect of furry I like is a chance to not be human(as much) and attempt to get away from the hardships of it all.  (escaapisim)   I so wish life could be like star treck at times.

But back to the thread topic...

I hope whatever happens, that the country can move forward and people become more civil.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 16, 2020, 01:10:25 pm

Trump supporters still foolishly think Trump is the best man for our economy.
Just because Trump was some kind of fantasy TV genius doesn't transfer to real life.
The man when bankrupt 6 times for Pete's sake. Also people who worked with him
reported Trump would start a business then tire of it, and allow it  to fail while playing
games to pacifie his bordeom. This propensity to become aeasilyy bored has shown
throughout his presidency, and harmed his ability to do the job.

Trump's economy was handed to him on a platter by the Obama administration. But
like most republicans Trump laid claim to an economy he never earned. Then Trump got a tax cut that mostly benefited big business and the rich. This gave a boost to the
economy at a time it didn't need one. Even though Trump lied that his tax cut was for the
good of the economy, it was just to gain favor from his rich friends. Also the tax loss
because of the tax  cut made it impossible to start the repairs to our national infrastructure.
Work that would have provided millions of good jobs.

A second vaccine was reported to be 95% effective against covid19.
Better yet the storage temperature is zero instead of 100 below zero. 
This would make it much easier to transport and for small clinics to store.

So far our infantile president is still pouting about his election loss, and isn't talking
about the virus or how to deliver vaccines. The last I heard he could care less about
this or anything else. It's time he grew up and started doing his job instead of chasing
golf balls.

Hopefully the people Trump has convinced  the virus isn't really dangerous.  Will come
to realize this virus is for real and will kill people who are physically too weak to
recover from it. Yes fortunately most people do recover, but some suffer lingering
organ damage that they may have to deal with for the  rest of their lives.

I fear this holiday season will be the darkest in history if people don't wake  up and
limit gathering to the internet. If they don't there will be a lot of funerals by January, and
many of those may not be limited to older relatives. It would be much better to wait
a year and have them for many years to come. Most of these visits are done out of
habit anyway. I have spent the last 16 holiday seasons physically alone with no
problems. Much of our holiday habits are to benefit big business, and not for the
public at large.

There are over 11,100,000 infections in the U S, and over 246,000 deaths.

The continuing growth of covid19 is forcing some cities and states to require
the closing of some buisness's due to hospitals being o verwhelmed.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 17, 2020, 12:28:47 pm

The republican party claims time and time again there is voter fraud, and states must
pass laws to protect the voting  process. Like voter ID and whatever they can do to
make voting more difficult for those who might vote for anyone but a republican.

The party continues to claim they are only protecting the vote, but instead behind the
scenes they are working to protect their ability to hold power. It would be bad
enough if they actually believed they were protecting our democracy,  but their actions
prove otherwise. It's unfortunate but many voters want to believe those they have
voted for, or those over the years, and those voted for by their parents. Also some
only want to vote for party members, because they  have been convinced not to do
otherwise.
 
This is another reason we desperately need term limits, to prevent either party from
having members making a career out of being in congress, be it state or federal.
Mainly to protect the country from corrupt people who can convince the public to keep
them in office. If the public took the time to watch their congress member, we wouldn't
need term limits, but unfortunately most people don't care enough to watch
them between elections. So people tend to vote for a favorite party member time after
time.

A nurse reported that patients were claiming they couldn't have covid19 because it
is a hoax. Even though they were barely able to talk due to that very virus. The nurse
who was wearing PPE, said the patient argued, not wanting to believe the nurse.
saying it must be something  different.  This shows just how much control Trump
has over his cult followers. Even to  the point of arguing with qualified medical people while
deathly sick.

As covid19 spreads, even GOP governors are beginning to impose restrictions for non
essential businesses, and the mandate for masks when close to others and while
inside businesses. Sadly there is opposition to these life saving actions, mostly due
to Trump's politicizing covid19.

The GOP is apparently scared they will lose control of the senate by trying
to influence the Georgia secretary of state. Wanting him to throw out mail
in votes to affect election  results. When this was brought to light the GOP
claimed otherwise. When asked why they  were even talking to the Georgia
secretary of state. A GOP senator claimed he was trying to protect the
country, when in reality he was out to protect GOP control of the senate,
and perhaps  claim the state of Georgia for Trump.

It is reported that Trump is wanting to remove troops from Iraq, and
Afghanistan. Eve though he isn't giving the military time to make
proper preparations. He is getting opposition from GOP senators
and others who know this would be a bad move for  the country,
and our troops.

Also there is a report that Trump is considering an attack against Iran,
to destroy a nuclear storage facility. Of course now that Iran knows
about this we can be sure the materials will be moved. Trump's plan
to attack Iran would place us at war with Iran, creating a serious
situation for Biden. Most likely putting him in a war that might
be difficult to stop.  While Trump stood back and tried to blaime it
on Biden and the Democrats.


In the U S infections  are over 11,200,000 and deaths are over 247,000.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 17, 2020, 07:11:26 pm
Just want to plop this here.

https://i.imgur.com/GQ7XgUy.mp4

This is the most presidential trump has ever sounded. Oh if only he had this much dignity...
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 18, 2020, 11:39:12 am
The woman holding up the Biden transition.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/politics/biden-transition-trump-delay/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/opinions/emily-murphy-has-refused-to-do-her-job-filipovic/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 18, 2020, 01:15:38 pm

Trump has spent most of his life getting his way, so now he is mad because he isn't.
Like a small child to has had a favorite toy taken from him, Trump is having temper
tantrums, and wanting to punish those who are responsible for his woes.

Frivolous law suits continue to be filed in state and federal courts by lawyers working
for Trump, even as they are thrown out time after time. The GOP is pressuring their
members to undo the election when and where ever they can. Last night two of their
workers attempted to invalidate  an election, but after a voter outcry they backed down
and properly validated it.

We can be sure this isn't the end of Trump trying to interfere in his election loss. It's
likely to continue till after the vote of state electors in December. Even then I doubt if
Trump will admit defeat, and want to blame others for his loss.

Not only this, Trump has spent most of the last two months doing
little else but trying to be re-elected. He continues to claim Covid19 isn't a serious
virus. Much the same as influenza. Sadly his cult following want to believe him, and
mostly ignore safe practices for their protection and that of others.

It's likely the many rally's he had during the last few weeks of his campaign has
caused much of the spread of covid19 throughout the Midwest. Numbers of infections
are over 11,300,000 and deaths are closing in on 250,000.

These increases are filling hospitals to overflowing. Many are setting up tents to 
have more room. The big problem is we are running out of health care workers who
are qualified to do the job. Also there are shortages in PPE, that they need for their
 own protection.

Now Trump is ordering the removal of many of our troops from Afghanistan and the
middle east. Already terrorist groups are increasing activities where troop removal
will allow it. I am sure Trump is doing this just to make Biden's life as president more
difficult. Not for the protection of our troops as I expect him to claim. Also
it's likely these troop removals are meant to please Putin of Russia, because I am sure
Trump still wants to build a hotel in Moscow.

I am sure if Biden is required to send troops back, Trump will point and blame the
Democrats for any increase in troop deployment, and if he is returned to the White
House he would pull the troops out for good. Trump has had four years to get us out
as he claimed, So his followers should ask why has he waited till now to do so.

Trump should be allowing Biden full access for the transition, but has no interest in
helping Biden prepare for his job as president. Trump never has wanted to do a
proper job as president. Instead he tries to act as if he was an authoritarian  Dictator.
The only reason he has lasted, is due to the GOP failing to follow their oath of office.
I wish they would pass a law that would punish any government official for breaking
their oath with prison time and never allowing them to obtain another government job.
As is failing to follow ones oath is judged by a political  vote. Which  usually ends up
with a slap on the wrist if anything at all, and nothing permanent.

Trump has failed to do much of what he promised in 2016, but in his rally's he never
answers questions, he just makes speeches, bragging on himself. So his followers
are never given a chance to ask him why, and if someone dares to try he calls them
down for disrupting his rally.

Trump continues to fire anyone who doesn't support his claims of fraud. It's a shame
he never put as much energy in being president as he has for his re-election. I imagine
this is more about keeping his cult followers than anything else. They are potentially
worth hundreds of millions to him in future sales and name recognition. So all you
Trumper's out there, feel proud as being money to fill his pockets, allowing him and
his family a super rich lifestyle.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 18, 2020, 11:53:58 pm
I knew it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/trump-biden-natsec-transition-fires/index.html

Trump is going full Gul Dukat in his final days. Like Cardassians leaving Terok Nor he's gonna completely cripple the government and the nation so that when Biden arrives her has to spend most of his first term just repairing the damage Trump is leaving behind. As if he didn't do enough damage already.

Trump obviously doesn't care about the people that could be hurt by this move, he just wants to make things hard for Biden and that's good enough. He seems oblivious to the damage this is gonna cause in the middle east.

But is anyone really surprised at this point that trump doesn't care if his temper tantrum gets people killed? He doesn't care about anyone but himself. I take back my comparison to Gul Dukat, Dukat may have been evil, narcissistic and self absorbed but at least he cared about a few other people. Even showed a sliver of remorse when he got Jadzia Dax killed and admitted she was just an innocent bystander. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 19, 2020, 11:19:01 am
It's like I said before. Trump is setting a "scorched earth" policy before he leaves the White House. He'll do as much damage as he can in whatever way he can to prevent Biden from repairing things.
There could be another reason why Trump is doing all this. Granted, it's just me grasping at straws so to speak, but............By creating and leaving as much damage as he can, Trump will somehow spin this around years later when (and if) he tries to run again in the 2024 election. He'll say that Biden and the Democrats created all this mess and that Trump (and the Republicans) is the only one that can "save America" and get us out of the problems that the Democrats have created. He'll spin doctor it so much and so bad that so as to get people to re-elect him as President.  >:(

Two more links for further reading.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/what-matters-november-18/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-joe-biden/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 19, 2020, 01:25:01 pm

Moscow Mitch has sent the senate home, so there won't be any vote to give relief to
help those affected by covid19. No aid to help families buy food, pay rent or even to
heat their homes this winter.  I find it hard to see how the GOP can turn their back on
the needy of our nation. I find it even harder to understand how GOP supporters can
ignore covid19, or the needs of the country, yet want to believe  the most  corrupt
president the nation as ever had.

Infections continue to increase across the nation. Over 11,500,000 and over 250,000 deaths
have occurred. Yet millions plan to enjoy a Thanksgiving as usual. This will likely lead  to an
even greater spread of the virus by the middle of December. Perhaps over 400,000  deaths by
the first of the year.

 72 million people  apparently fell for Trump's lies about his greatness. They apparently
would rather believe a fantasy spun by Trump than the truth. It is sad that people
would rather believe Trump's lies than do a fact check for them selves.  It seems as
history has shown, people have to learn the hard way. The trouble is these people
are dragging us along with them. By the time they see Trump's fantasy for what it is,
the damage will have been done, and millions will suffer and die. 

So as in the past people will have to  fight and die to gain back what they had in the
first place. Just because they listened to a man and party who was out to help themselves 
and not the country or the people.

78 million people did not listen to Trump's lies, but can we stand together enough to
stop those who want to believe a fantasy instead of the facts? Only time will tell. If the
people of Georgia fail to elect Democrats to the senate in January, Biden will have little
chance to help the suffering people of this nation. Because the GOP is determined to
ignore the needy for the good of the rich.

I think they know the middle class is the key to a great economy, but to please  their
rich supporters and desire to hold power they apparently want to ignore this truth. So
they will lie and cheat to convince people their way is  the best. They and Trump will
tell the rank and file of the GOP that the Democrats will destroy the country with their
socialist ideas. Tell them the Democrats want to give tax money to lazy good
for nothing people. Using conspiracy theories trying to  prove that people receiving
federal aid live better than working people, and buy steaks to feed their pets. While a
few people are willing to live on aid alone, there are ways to make this very
uncomfortable. This is why we need a government of moderate people, and not one
of the far right or far left. Either extreme is bad for us all.

Free enterprise and a free market is the best way to build a strong nation, but if not
controlled with regulations, human nature will use it to feed greed, and this will harm
the disadvantaged. People who for one reason or another can't help them selves.  In
the past we allowed people like this to suffer and die, to beg in the streets, to spread
disease, and commit crimes. We even built work houses that force the children of the
poor to work in them. Sadly this is how some conservatives believe society should be.
So only those of means can have a decent life, and let the rest fend for them selves.

This might be acceptable to the natural world, but I think man should be better than
animals. To be willing to make life better, even for those who for one reason or another
can't help them selves. I think most of us want to be better than animals, but a minority
think we all should look out for ourselves, and to heck with those who don't or can't.
It's people like Trump who bring out the worse in people by filling them with bad lies
about their fellows, instead of looking for the good in them.

Lets hope for a better future for us all.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 20, 2020, 05:05:06 am
VIDEO

https://i.imgur.com/Bi9ZKNR.mp4

TRANSLATION: We cannot believe the results of this election. We rigged it so that Trump would win and he still lost because of an unexpected amount of opposing voters that we cannot get our heads around. We are not going to let the american people stop us from controlling this nation. We own you. We will not let fair elections stop us from controlling what is ours by right. We will take this nation back and you will never get control of it no matter how you vote. You will not stand in our way of holding control over this government and this nation.
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This is just baffling... They really do want to commit a coup. So far all I can say is thank the graces that there are some honest judges in the courts who stand by the law.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on November 20, 2020, 10:33:18 am
Maybe here is not the place?
I have been told by a person in security circles that destabilizing the American way of life is a tactic opponents use to weaken us.  At the least, it can just hurt our economy and give them some satisfaction.  At the most, it can get us weak and divided enough to leave us vulnerable to attack.  In the past , one favorite method was to pour drugs into America and funnel that money out.  It creates people with dependencies and gives the enemy money. Confusion here means we fight each other and forget or never see the enemy coming in.  I feel like this is where we are headed, and Trump either is not stopping it or not seeing it etc.

Why I bring this up is I keep thinking, why would any president want to cause such disruptions or at least let them continue?  Are they in league with a government who wants to destabilize us?  Or are they ignorant of the security risk?
Let's be strong, follow process.  If he didn't get the votes, he didn't get them.  Fair is fair.  Happens to all sides.
Just move on, and not cause division and weakness.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 20, 2020, 01:04:39 pm

Trump is apparently telling his administration to slow the transition to president elect
Biden. If true, this is another illegal act by Trump. I think we can be sure Trump fears
the inauguration of Biden,  because this will open him up to civil suits and criminal
indictments. Pardons can protect him  from federal crimes, but not those of states,
or civil law suits, and no longer will he have his AG Barr to protect him.

Covid19 continues to rise, yesterday an increase of 185,000 people were infected, and
2000 more died. With the holiday season coming these numbers are only going to rise.
Because it's the time people get together for celebrations, and parties. It was good

to see a CDC news conference yesterday, where they encouraged the wearing of
masks, and other safety measures to help prevent more infections. Perhaps Trump
has been convinced to allow those in his administration to promote protections against
covid19, but this could change with a tweet. Especially if he hears a complaint from
the far right.

The news media talks about all those who voted for Trump. Well what about all those
who didn't. almost 5 million more. They should count even more in the news. They
need to be out  demonstrating in front of the homes of GOP governors, senators, and

representatives, federal and state both. Non violently of course, but to let them know
those who oppose them aren't going to stand quietly while the GOP steps on their
rights. This is what the GOP  expects Democrats to do, and it's time for a change.

It appears the republican leadership wants to disenfranchise people of color. To
ignore their votes unless they vote the way the GOP wants them to, and Trump has
hopes he can convince law makers of swing states to declare his win by installing
electors that will vote for him. This is more proof the GOP and Trump don't care
who black people vote for, in their mind it's likely they don't even think they should
be voting. Think not? Then why does the GOP work so hard to stop them from
voting? Personally  I think this smacks  of Treason as it goes against the constitution,
and if the country was at war they could be in serious trouble. I think they should
be anyway.

This country is becoming more diverse every year. I am sure many white people fear
this change, but it's going to happen in spite of their wishes. I hope for the good of
the nation the change won't cause a civil war. White people may think they can defeat
people of color, but they best wake up. The color of skin has no effect on
ones ability. Mental or physically, in fact many are more capable than most white
people, in spite of what racist people think.

In the U S infections are over 11,700,000  and deaths are over 252,000.

World wide the number is over 57 million infections and over 1,200,000 deaths.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 21, 2020, 01:21:39 pm

In their attempt to hold the attention of the American public, I think the national news
media is doing more harm than good to our Democracy. It seems all they want to talk
about is how bad things are, and little about the good. Yes bad news sells better, but
the country needs positive news, even with a pandemic and a president trying to
wreck the presidency with his childish behavior.

Could it be the GOP is shooting them selves in the foot by telling voters their votes
don't really count? Because just because they are targeting people of color doesn't
prevent the possibility white voters might just stay at home if they live in areas
who have more people of color than whites.

Presidential elect Biden wants to do all he can to slow this pandemic immediately after
taking office. He is preparing to undo much of the damage Trump has done during
his time as president, but since the Trump administration is working to inhibit the
transition it will take longer than it would otherwise.

Though presidential elect Biden is continuing his transition work as best he can. Trump
claimed he wants Biden to suffer similar hardships he had at the beginning of his
presidency. Of course Trump won't admit he was the  cause of his troubles, because it
had to be due to the Democrats wanting him to fail. Because in Trump's mind he
himself is  perfect in every way, and can do no wrong.

Over the years Trump and family have been students of positive thinking. Where
you never blame yourself for failure. This belief is likely why Trump can't accept the
fact he failed to win the presidential election. In his mind it has to be due to fraud or
the fault of others. So we can expect he will never admit his defeat, as it would go
against a belief he was taught since childhood. I think he has tried to pass this along
to his followers from day one.

 In the United States covid19 infections have passed 12 million, and deaths are over
255,000. Hospitals are being overwhelmed, with dead bodies being stored in
refrigerated trailers. This is just the beginning as there aren't enough health care
workers to care for the victims of covid19. Soon hospitals will have to start turning
people away, if not already.

The Trump administration still isn't doing all it can to slow the pandemic in the U S A.
Many of Trump's followers don't even believe there is a covid19.  I guess when they
get sick it's just their imagination, or a bad case of the flu. Trump even had the gall to
claim it is a fraud created by hospitals, nurses and doctors. I really don't think people
who wish to save lives would kill 255,000 people trying to convince others of
a fake disease. Instead it's Trump doing all he can to avoid taking responsibility  for
failing to do his job. It's likely he is to blame for over 100,000  deaths caused by
covid19, and it's time his cult followers wake up and see the truth for what it is. 

The GOP needs to send relief to the American public while shutting down all but
necessary businesses for a few weeks. Businesses wouldn't need relief funding if
everyone received money to replace their earnings anyway. Any money sent to
businesses with everyones earnings covered would just be a gift to people who wouldn't
need it. Something the GOP likes to do for the rich if they get the chance.

Giving money to the rich doesn't help the economy, as rich people  put free money in
the bank. Money received by working people is usually spent, which does help the
economy.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 21, 2020, 06:38:40 pm
So what happens between now and Inauguration Day on Jan. 20th? Here it is:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/politics/electoral-college-timeline-2020-election/index.html

This is the period of time when Electoral College electors are chosen, electoral votes are cast and certified, sent to Congress, etc.

How much you want to bet the recent meetings Trump has had with Republican election officials from Michigan (and possibly from Pennsylvania and/or other Republican states) is to try and bully, coerce, and pressure various Republican election officials from certain states to elect Electors that are loyal to Trump and/or the Republican Party and try to get all the state's electoral votes to count toward Trump? It's not out of the realm of possibility. If Trump can't win in the courts with all the lawsuits he's been throwing at states, then this is another underhanded tactic of his.

Of course, there have been instances of electoral college Electors not casting their vote for the person the majority of the people voted for in the state in past elections. These are called "faithless electors".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

So what really happened during Monday's meeting with Michigan state board election members?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/michigan-election-results-certification/index.html


EDIT:
Judge dismisses Pennsylvania lawsuit.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/federal-judge-dismisses-trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit/index.html

Liklihood of electors voting against state's popular vote.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/11/21/donald-trump-joe-biden-election-cross-exam-honig-nr-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 22, 2020, 04:14:46 am
President Trump is actually loosing legal battles faster at the end of his presidency than he lost cabinet members at the start.  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 22, 2020, 12:30:34 pm

  The popular vote has passed 6 million in favor for Biden. "GO BIDEN"

Trump's crying continues, even though he is losing court case after court case. His
lawyers claim they will take these cases all the way to the supreme court if they have
to. It's not likely the supreme court will accept a frivolous case, even with a
court that has 3 GOP judges appointed by Trump. Several of his lost cases were in
courts with judges appointed by Trump. This shows just how frivolous these cases are.
If they weren't he wouldn't be losing all of them.


Now it seems Trump is taking an different approach, by attacking the votes of minorities.
He has repeatedly claimed he is the least racist person ever. If this is the case, then
why is he claiming every major city  in swing states he has lost, were filled with fraud?
Cities that have large populations of African Americans who mostly vote for
Democrats. Even conservative judges recognize the law suits are aimed at
disenfranchising people of color.

In Wisconsin Trump is paying over 3 million dollars to have recounts, Not for the state,
but cities with large black population. It seems the only parts of the states  with fraud
according to Trump, have people who mostly vote for Democrats.

This ridiculous attempt to overturn an election with a baseless claim of fraud should
be proving to the American public that Trump him self is nothing more than a fraud.
If Trump's followers would wake up and look at his record with an open mind, they
would soon see Trump for what he is. A self serving con artist.

The GOP is running scared by attacking the black people of Georgia. Telling
white people if they allow a black preacher go to the senate, He will vote for non
christian values that white people would not want. It seems the GOP will even twist
the words of the christian bible trying to win. This preacher is likely a better christian
than a lot of white people are, but the GOP calls him a radical. When it's the GOP
that has become a radical organization over the past decade.

I find it strange that some of Trump's followers still want to deny that covid19 exists.
Even though their king Trump is claiming with his support a vaccine for this virus
will be available very soon.  I mean do they think Trump has been pressured to
create a fake vaccine? Who can say, but the public best get vaccinated when it's
 available  or many will continue to get sick and many will die.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 22, 2020, 09:31:48 pm
There's been a slight "hiccup" in certifying the Michigan election results.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/22/politics/michigan-election-result-certification/index.html

EDIT:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/22/politics/what-matters-for-november-22/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 23, 2020, 04:14:55 am
Kobuk, the first link you posted is one of the reasons why I get really upset with CNN. It is NOT conspiracy or favoring Trump in any way. He is not going do anything until al the evidence is proven false. It's the law. Even if all the evidence is trying to prove the world is flat. You still have to follow the due process.

Instead of acting like an adult President Trump is dragging his pain out as far as he can. His supporters are getting tired of this. Even the dimmest candle in the box is starting to see through this behavior.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 23, 2020, 01:02:18 pm

Another vaccine may be available soon, which would be number 3. This one, unlike
the first one doesn't require deep cold storage. So it would be valuable for third world
countries. Also for rural areas in the U S.  Proper dosage could be up to 90%
effective.

Also the same drug Trump was treated with could be available soon, but production is
much slower, about 2 million doses a year. This medication could be a game changer
as it is a valuable treatment for covid19.

In the u s there over 12,200,000 infections, and over 256,000 deaths.

President elect Biden plans to name some cabinet members this week. It is good
to see picks of truly qualified people instead of money grubbing crooks that Trump
always picked for the jobs. This country needs qualified people to handle national
security. Not a bunch of yes men to do the bidding of a corrupt man like Trump.

Many government jobs have gone unfilled during Trumps time in office. Many of these
jobs affect air and water quality for the country. Others to protect the quality of food
and safety. Trump never has cared about public safety, unless it helped him get votes.
Even then he often put money for him self first.

Supporters of Trump want to point to things he has done they like, and want to ignore
the terrible things he has done.  Trump takes advantage of this by doing a few things
his supporters want him to. This business of people supporting an anti democratic
president will eventually come back to  bite them. People need to understand Trump
is using them, and we all will end up paying dear for their support in the end. Hopefully
they will learn this before Trump runs to be president again in 2024.

Trump is saying he will veto a defense funding bill if it includes name changes for
those military bases with names for confederate leaders. Obviously it's time to put
the civil war behind us. The south lost and they need to get over it. This continues to
show how racist Trump really is.

If Trump cared about the country  he would be pressuring Moscow Mitch and other
GOP senators to provide financial relief for all Americans. But no, all he wants to do is
cry about his lost election. It's time he puts his golf bag away,and do the job he was
elected to do. Either that or resign so his VP can finish the term for him.

Trump claims his law team is about to release evidence to prove he won big.  If this
is true, why have they waited, why all the fruitless law suits if they have this proof?
It's more likely that this is just another delaying tactic to give the democrats and Biden
a hard time. It's not likely Trump could get any lawyer to lie in court. Because it would
end their career, and possibly jail. Trump might get them out of jail, but I doubt if he
could restore their career as a lawyer. So Trump isn't likely to get any lawyer who
wants to  keep a good reputation.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 23, 2020, 02:47:40 pm
Instead of acting like an adult President Trump is dragging his pain out as far as he can. His supporters are getting tired of this. Even the dimmest candle in the box is starting to see through this behavior.

Which is friggen hilarious to me because trump has been saying how much he loves fox news over and over and over and the second tucker whats-his-name questioned trump BOOM they dropped him like a sack of moldering potatoes.

It's cultism at its most rabid.
They're lined up behind their leader and they'll swallow anything he says.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 23, 2020, 06:19:02 pm
Michigan just certified their election results. That's a relief.

Meanwhile, on Furtopia..........

Starts counting ballots.
2 for Carnivore.
1 for Herbivore.
2 for Carnivore.
1 for Herbivore.
3 for Carnivore.
1 for Herbivore.
5 for Carnivore.
1 for Herbivore.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on November 23, 2020, 08:05:32 pm
I vote omnivore, an equal opportunity eater.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 23, 2020, 10:17:11 pm
I vote omnivore, an equal opportunity eater.

Traitor! Traitor to the Carnivore Party. Where's your loyalty?  >:(

In other news.........Win for Biden! The Transition can now begin.  :)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 24, 2020, 01:42:26 am
Of course I would vote omnivore. I'm a rat.  And Loyalty? You are all food for me. :)

It's over. No civil war. No cold war. No violence in the streets. No separate government. No Trump Nation or Trump loyalist government. No votes have been disqualified or taken away. All in time for the holidays! Right wing fanatics will soon be back to normal people. Buying Christmas presents and worrying about shipping costs. Because they will start caring for family more than propaganda.

For all his antics and lies Trump will spend the rest of his life as a social pariah. Rudy Giuliani will go down in history as a clown.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 24, 2020, 12:01:01 pm

It's over. No civil war. No cold war. No violence in the streets. No separate government. No Trump Nation or Trump loyalist government. No votes have been disqualified or taken away. All in time for the holidays! Right wing fanatics will soon be back to normal people. Buying Christmas presents and worrying about shipping costs. Because they will start caring for family more than propaganda.

For all his antics and lies Trump will spend the rest of his life as a social pariah. Rudy Giuliani will go down in history as a clown.

You see a glass as half full. I see a glass as, well..........I'm not exactly sure yet. All or nearly all of Trump's election lawsuits are failing. States are certifying their election results. Various Republican supporters are questioning his tactics and/or leaving him. BUT...........just remember that Trump is still President for at least another 1 1/2 to 2 months till January 20th. We don't know what Trump will do during that time. As I may have said before, Trump hates to lose........at anything. He will do whatever it takes to win. His back is against the wall and he is like a caged animal. A very rabid, angry, and tempermental caged animal.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 24, 2020, 12:35:33 pm
Kobuk, what could President Trump actually do in 55 days. After failing at almost everything he tried to do in 1405. And with less support and no credibility on the world stage. Whit his record of lashing out he'll probably blame all his supporters. Alienating himself from even more people. He's not the fault he lost. It's everyone else's fault. These next 55 days should be a mudslide of blaming and bullying from a man baby. Not a caged animal. President Biden would be legally able to undo any and all damage President Trump does in less than a week. About the only thing he could do now is get all his friends out of prison.

X president Trump will continue to throw lawsuits at people after he's out of office. Only now he will have to rely on his own money. Not the taxpayers. And he's in deep financial dept. Plus there are lawsuits he will have to face once he's out of office.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 24, 2020, 01:13:08 pm

Even with the vaccines, it will be months before they are available to the general public.
Sad to say some won't want the vaccination. Some because they don't believe there
is a virus, and others who just don't like vaccinations. So many of them will end up sick
and some will end up dead. The worse part is they will spread the virus to family and
friends.

In the U S infections are over 12,400,000 and deaths are over 257,000.

World wide the number of infections are almost 59 million and deaths are over 1.3
million.

People across the nation are having to line up for free food they can't afford to
buy. It's a shame GOP members of the senate don't have to do this as well. No, they are
mostly Millionaires who never went hungry a day in their life. So they are only
interested in cutting their taxes, and the needy can just need.

The stock market continues to climb even with Trump expected to leave office in
January. So apparently even though I am sure Trump would like to claim credit
for it. It's more likely due to the vaccines and his leaving than anything else.

 As of yesterday afternoon president elect Biden's transition was officially approved.
If Moscow Mitch refuses to approve Biden's cabinet picks. I think Biden should just
give his picks security clearance himself and tell them to do the job till Moscow Mitch
does his.

I have a hunch the main reason Trump delayed the start of the transition was to
give his people time to get rid of information about their possible  criminal activities.
Because the Biden team can gain access to agency records now. Records that could
be very incriminating. We know Trump rarely ever turned over documents about his
activities. So was it just a habit from his business days, or was he really trying to hide
law breaking that could get him and his close family in trouble.

It will be interesting to see how big a pardon list Trump comes up with before he
leaves office. I think we can be sure he will pardon friends of his that should go to jail.
In spite of GOP support Trump is more like a mobster than a president who cares
about the country. The sad thing is most of his supporters believe the election was
stolen. Why? Because Trump their king said so.  Sad to  say, but it just proves how
people can be fooled by a con artist  like Trump. Even after over 20,000 lies, they want
to believe him.

Trump is still working to help Russia. He just ended U S participation a open sky policy
that allowed overflights of each of our countries gathering information. We could share
this information with over 30 countries. So now those countries won't have access to
the data we were gathering. Not only that Trump ordered the destruction of the planes
we used for this purpose. Perhaps to prevent Biden from starting it again.
I am sure Trump would still like to have a Trump hotel in Moscow. But I really doubt if
Putin will even talk to him, once he is no longer president.

Reports are that Trump is planning to have several parties in the White House this
holiday season. All  inside, so it's likely those attending will get covid19 as a gift from
their king.

For some reason Trump hasn't been willing to take questions from the press since he
lost the election. Guess he is afraid he might say the wrong thing.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 24, 2020, 06:20:44 pm
I laughed when I read this.  :D  :D  :D I wonder how many Republican Trump supporter observers got the wristbands?

https://www.tmj4.com/news/election-2020/recount-observers-in-milwaukee-given-wristbands-with-smiling-poop-emojis
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on November 25, 2020, 02:01:54 am
I vote omnivore, an equal opportunity eater.

Don't forget that even animals that vegans would classify as "Pure herbivores" like deer are known to eat flesh and bones.  :goldbloody:

Deer are well known to eat the flesh that sheds off their antlers when they're done growing to get back nutrients and they do the same when antlers shed, they will also eat bones for calcium and they'll eat meat as well. There's even been a discovery of a white tailed deer eating human meat!

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/05/deer-eating-human-forensics-decomposition/#:~:text=(Read%20more%20about%20the%20white,rabbits%2C%20and%20even%20live%20birds.

Now I know that's neither here nor there about the election but I thought it was important to point out that the herbivore party cannot be trusted to maintain their own vegan values! Everyone loves the taste of flesh! HAHAHAHA-er... I mean....back to you in the booth Old Rabbit.   :goldlaugh:
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 25, 2020, 09:53:39 am
Trump will soon be gone. But "Trumpism" won't.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/trumpism-without-trump-democrats-plan-future/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on November 25, 2020, 11:47:32 am
I vote omnivore, an equal opportunity eater.

Don't forget that even animals that vegans would classify as "Pure herbivores" like deer are known to eat flesh and bones.  :goldbloody:

Deer are well known to eat the flesh that sheds off their antlers when they're done growing to get back nutrients and they do the same when antlers shed, they will also eat bones for calcium and they'll eat meat as well. There's even been a discovery of a white tailed deer eating human meat!

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/05/deer-eating-human-forensics-decomposition/#:~:text=(Read%20more%20about%20the%20white,rabbits%2C%20and%20even%20live%20birds.

Now I know that's neither here nor there about the election but I thought it was important to point out that the herbivore party cannot be trusted to maintain their own vegan values! Everyone loves the taste of flesh! HAHAHAHA-er... I mean....back to you in the booth Old Rabbit.   :goldlaugh:

OMG I am dying laughing!  I love it!
And no, I actually did think deer didn't eat meat ever.
I guess I will be more careful around those thin legged herbivores.
 :o
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 25, 2020, 01:06:22 pm

President elect Biden's transition continues. The news media seems to think Biden
should have talked to Trump by now. I really don't see what  good that would  do
Biden since anything Trump might say would very likely be a lie. Also a visit to the
White House would likely expose him to covid19, and I am sure Trump would like that.

Some are saying the Biden administration is going to be a repeat of the Obama
administration. This is nonsense as the nation and the world is much different, and
president elect Biden needs fully experienced people he knows to deal with a
government Trump has made a mess of, along with covid19.

Sadly millions of people are ignoring the warnings of doctors across the nation, and
are traveling to spend Thanksgiving with relatives and friends. This is almost certain to
set them up for a very sad Christmas, With many of those relatives and friends sick
and some dead from covid19. A virus doesn't ignore those who don't want to believe it
is real, just like a fire it is it's nature to destroy what it finds.

Trump should have stood up and told his followers this virus is dangerous, but he fears
it would damage his reputation with his supporters. Something that in his mind is more
valuable than the lives of his followers, or anyone else. Sadly many are willing to give
their lives in support of this terrible con artist. Just as others have in support of cults
down through history.

In the U S there are over 7 million active cases of covid19, and 12.6 million have been
infected. and nearly 260,000 deaths.

World wide infections are over 60 million and increasing.

It's reported Trump is working on a list of people to pardon. Most will likely be those
who were loyal, and lied for him. Also likely any who got in legal trouble  standing up
for him. Just like any mob boss,Trump helps those who give their all for him, and
punishes those to turn against him. Of course this only applys if it doesn't cause him
any problems. Then they are ignored. Because it's always Trump first and everyone
else last, in spite of what his supporters may think.

Trump loves his power to pardon. It is a power that is his alone, for good or bad. In that
it effectively gives him god like power over life and death, because he can pardon the
most vile criminal who ever lived if he wished. I think this is why he wants to be a
dictator, because then he would have the power to convict, and have people put to
death if he wished, and as a dictator no one could oppose him.

It's Trump's lack of compassion and his only caring for himself ,is why he should
never have power over others. So hopefully he will lose his following once out of office.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 26, 2020, 12:33:52 am
So x president Trump left  his 'friends' in prison for how long? Do you really think they'll be loyal to him when they get out. Folks! Gather round! Let's all listen to the canaries as they star to sing! This should be a fun ride.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 26, 2020, 01:35:15 pm


The supreme court showed it's political stripes overnight, by keeping the governor
of New York from limiting church attendance trying to  slow the spread of covid19.
The court claimed it was unconstitutional, but the governor didn't pick on one religion
but all religious attendance.   So his decision had nothing to do with religion, but for
public health. In spite of constitutional claims by the court. If we had a senate that
cared about the constitution, we would have a constitutional supreme court instead
of a political one with judges, who need to be impeached.

I fear we will see many political decisions by this conservative court, which will limit
the rights of life style, voting, and government health care  Along with the  rights of
minorities. All to favor the GOP, and their far right friends.

The GOP complain about the left, but they never say anything to run down the right
side of politics. Years ago politics were more moderate. In the middle so to speak. This
was much better, because it leaned toward compromise and not the idea of today
where many on the right want to say, we are in control so live with it. This single party
idea of control is bad for the country, and could destroy the party pushing it. Because
this business of one party control limits the rights of many people, and will
eventually turn those people against that party.

It's unfortunate, but the GOP apparently used the fact that Obama was the first
black president, to appeal to the far right and their racist desire to limit the rights of
African Americans generally. This is where the Tea Party came from. A very radical
party that rose from racist people who hated the idea of a black man in the White
House, unless he was a janitor or dishwasher.

Hopefully the fact we have a person of color for a vice president doesn't give
the Tea party a membership boost in congress come 2022.

The response to covid19 shows how selfish people tend to be. When asked to wear a
mask they fret about their comfort and claim they have a right to get sick. This would
be okay if they lived alone on a island, but they live around others who they  don't have
a right to put at risk by not wearing a mask. It's much the same as falsely crying
fire in a crowded theater. You have the right of speech, but not the right to  put others
at risk with that right. This is something Trump and many of his followers don't seem
to understand. They act like their rights stand above all others. Many of these people
reminds me of "Rednects,"  People that think they should be able to do what ever  they
want, and the rest of us can just deal with it, and they sure don't want government
telling them what to do.

In the US there are over 12,700,000 infections and over 262,000 deaths caused by covid19.
Sadly  a lot of people feel they can't skip even one holiday for the good of their neighbors, or
even their relatives. So we can expect an additional  surge of covid19 in December.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 26, 2020, 03:24:33 pm
Old Rabbit. It's constitutionally right to allow people to gather together. No state or authority can tell a group the can't get together within already established laws. They don't need a permit or permission to gather in properties they own. Our constitution was written for and buy smart people. It's up to the individual to decide their own safety. Let them die. What the supreme court did is constitutionally correct. They are not throwing their weight around. If they ban gay marriage then they are being unconstitutional and throwing their weight around. Right now they are doing what they are supposed to. These people have the right to be stupid. There is only one cure for stupidity. If they want to rush head long into their own death let them die. The smart ones will stay home.

Fear is a tool of propaganda used by the far left as well. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 27, 2020, 07:41:32 am
Straight from the Library of Congress.

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/peaceful-assembly/us.php (https://www.loc.gov/law/help/peaceful-assembly/us.php)

I can get all bible on you if you want to hear just how wrong these churches are for doing this.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 27, 2020, 01:19:17 pm

Yes people have a right to be stupid, but they don't have a right to cause harm to others.
Religious structures don't belong to everyone that may show up or come by invitation. So
they should receive protection. Just because a few might be like a club owned by members
shouldn't eliminate protection for others. We should  remember young people are invited, and
they may not be old enough to make informed decisions, or allowed to.

Trump claims he will leave the White House if the electors vote goes against him. Well
at this time Biden has 306 electors, so Trump should be packing his bags, and send all
those flags, and eagles and memorabilia to Florida, along with his lucky golf clubs.

The GOP is worried that all of Trump's claims of a rigged election will limit turn out by
GOP voters in Georgia, and cost them control of the senate. I hope it does, because
the GOP has become a fascist far right party that will destroy democracy if they keep
control. Before Trump, the party was afraid to push the far right too much for fear of
losing elections, but Trump changed this by creating a cult of support that is willing to
believe anything he tells them.

We can expect Trump to do all he can to maintain this cult even after he leaves office.
Because without it he will likely fade into history, and lose any political influence he
may have.

Trump and the far  right play to public fears and weird conspiracies to build political
control. Doing all they can to convince the  public if they don't give them their support
the left will bring economic destruction and job loss with their socialist plans for the
country. They use  nationalism to gain patriotic  furverto build even greater support.
They know a good percentage of the public can be easily led like a flock of sheep with
promises they never have to keep. Just like Trump's wall, even after 4 years only 5
miles of wall beyond that which already existed has been built. Much of the billions of
tax dollars Trump claimed he  used likely went in the pockets of millionaire supporters
of the GOP and Trump.

Interestingly the GOP and Trump claim the Democrats are guilty of the corruption the
GOP has been involved in  for many years.  They even admit this if one listens closely.
Trump continues to claim millions of ballots with votes for him were thrown away. But
he never gives any evidence of this. He knows his cult will believe him and his lies, so
he doesn't worry about coming up with proof.

As feared millions of people enjoyed Thanksgiving with family and friends. So as with
other holidays we will  likely see an additional surge of infections and deaths by the
middle of December. So we can expect hospital to overflow, requiring them to
turn people away, or put them in tents. The big problem is, health care workers are in
short supply, and so is PPE, and any help from the new president is well over a month
away. Yes vaccines are coming, but it will be weeks and months before they are
available to us all.

In the U S almost 12,900,000 infections have occurred and almost 264,000 deaths.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on November 27, 2020, 01:57:52 pm
And even if "millions" of votes were thrown out,  it's probably due to the fact that these ballots were marked improperly,  smudged,  torn, etc and were not up to the quality standard the election commission needed to ensure a definitive result for either party.
Aka,  normal stuff, expected,  nothing to worry about..   when 100 million+? ballots are cast there has to be a few that are discarded because of these issue.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on November 27, 2020, 05:07:42 pm
Lets put this in a different scenario. To try to explain why this is constitutionally correct.

Consuming alcohol can induce liver and brain damage. It impairs judgment and reflexes. Is known to lead to violence or other criminal activities. It's consumption alone has killed  people in America every year. Yet we have places called "Bars". Giving people the right to gather in a public place that can cause themselves and others harm. 

Our constitution is meant to rely on the intelligence of the individual. This is why they stressed free public, non religion based education. We where the very first nation to create free libraries. This insures our rights can not be swayed by belief or science.

Here's another fact that I really hope people know. This is the law. Scenario. You have a tree branch that needs to be removed. So you grab a hand saw. Climb up into the tree and start cutting. It's a breezy day and your saw blade keeps getting pinched. Making it impossible for you to get the job done. I come along. I tell you. "If you sit on the other side of the branch your weight will hold the cut open." You follow my advice. You fall out of the tree. Who's fault is it? Legally it's my fault. Right wing media, President Trump, the republican party and these preachers should be held to the letter of the law.

The left wing has propaganda too. It would be more helpful to everyone if the left wing media would rely less on senseless propaganda and more on the truth.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 28, 2020, 01:02:09 pm

Yes it seems to keep peace, people must be allowed to do dumb things. Just like helmets for
motorcycle riders. They save lives, but many complain if they must wear them. Yes Alcohol
and other substances are dangerous to health and  cause hazards, but if people want to use
them, there is little to  stop them. just  as it was with alcohol laws have to be adjusted for them
to be useful, or they do no good. Sometimes laws must be tough to protect the innocent, and most
people do agree. The supreme court should limit their decisions carefully, because politicians will have
them make laws if they can.

Yes both the far left and right often wish to go to the extreme. This
is why we need to elect enough moderates to keep those extremists
from passing bad laws.


As I expected, Trump is claiming credit for covid19 vaccines. This is nonsense as he
has done little, he might have thought up the word warp speed for his so called plan,
but he isn't smart enough to  do anything else. These vaccines are being designed
by the smartest medical scientists in the world, with little or no encouragement from
Trump. All he wants is credit for the good, and to blame others for the bad.

Trump and the GOP have done their best over the past 9 months to help their rich
friends use this pandemic to make millions. They don't want Trump to use war powers
to force big business to make PPE, as this would keep their rich friends from making
huge profits with the competition.

Our free market system works just fine till there is a disaster someplace, then greedy
people  come running to sell items people need at greatly inflated prices. They are
doing the same with this pandemic. This is why we must have regulations and   laws
to control greed to prevent the abuse of the free market.

The stock market topped 30,000  the other day, and Trump immediately claimed
credit for it. Millions are waiting in lines for food, but Trump didn't mention this. The
stock market affects the upper class of Americans, while millions stand to lose their
homes and have to beg for food, and shelter. While Trump plays golf, and claims
the election was stolen from him. Not only that the GOP leader of the senate closes
the senate, when they should be working to pass a relief bill to  help desperate
Americans.

The assassination in Iran will make the Biden administrations plan to restore the
nuclear treaty with them nearly impossible. This could be what those behind this attack
had in mind. Because the death of this one scientist won't stop Iran's nuclear program.

Trump has shown he cares little for diplomacy, so it wouldn't surprise me if he would
try to make Biden's job harder. Trump seems to think deals are better than diplomacy,
it just shows his ignorance. Authoritarians and dictators only respect strength, not
some fool like Trump trying to suck up to them. This lack of respect can only lead to
economic loss or war.

Trump likely thinks this supreme court will give him a win in Pennsylvania, Even if it did
he would still lose unless he could get the court to invalidate other state elections as
well. Even to give Trump this, when the vote went against him, and with no proof of
fraud, it's very unlikely the court would even agree to look at it. Even to touch it would
show the courts political intent to support the GOP.

Reports are saying 70 million people decided to spend Thanksgiving with family and
friends. This could be a disaster in the making. Hopefully most people did their best
to be safe, but this virus sneaks up on people, so it's likely millions will become sick
due to their holiday visits.

In the U S there are 13.1 million infections and over 264,000 deaths from covid19.
Reports tell that there may be 8 times as many people affected than we are being
told. Hopefully not, but time will tell.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 29, 2020, 12:52:52 pm

Trump continues to spread his lies about how many people
voted for him, or Biden. Even for Obama. He apparently still
believes a lie is always
better if the truth doesn't
make him look good.  Sadly his cult continues to believe his lies.

Trump complained when he was told he wasn't allowed as president to file a law suit.
As usual nothing is fair unless he can get his way. Votes must be for him or they
must be fraudulent. This cry baby attitude of his is why he should not be president now
or ever again.

Trump continues to hint that he will run for president in2024.  It would seem to
me if he has rally's for the next 4 years, can people stay supportive over such a long
time? Also any rally he has will continue to spread covid19, because most of his
people don't believe there is a virus, and aren't likely to get the vaccine.  Trump
just might be a good test subject to see how long immunity lasts for this virus. But
then he would likely hide or lie about any reinfection he might get.

If the GOP continue to hold the senate, Biden should use every power he has to help
the economy. Let the GOP howl, because they have no plan to help. They want to
regain the House, and hold on to the senate in 2022. To do this the GOP will use every
trick to convince the public only they can restore the economy. Also the Democrats
must work to undo the perception that they are for socialism.  They should educate
the public about socialism. There isn't any way the Democrats can make this
country a socialist  state where the government owns or runs everything.

Left to the GOP everything will be turned over to the super rich, where this country
will become more like an oligarchy  than a democracy.

I would think people who are in food lines, and stand to be evicted from their home
wouldn't support the GOP or Trump, but I have a hunch many still do, and blame the
Democrats for not supporting GOP relief bills that mostly help the rich.

I say this because at the beginning of the great depression of the 1930's Millions
supported the GOP when FDR ran against Hoover. With people in soup lines, living
in the streets, tent towns, and 26% unemployment. You would think FDR would have
gotten a landslide win, but only won by around 4%. It seems people just never learn or
take the time to see who cares about the people. Instead many continue to vote for the
same people, even when they are corrupt.

In the U S infections are over 13.3 million and 266,000 deaths from covid19.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 30, 2020, 12:28:45 pm

Covid19 vaccines should be available soon. I hope they give some priority to those
workers who provide food for the population. Grocery store workers, warehouse
workers who handle food, field workers who pick foods, and truck drivers. We depend
on these people, even though we tend to forget about them.

Then they should see that people at the greatest risk are vaccinated. I fear this will be
decided by race instead of need. It's unfortunate, but many people consider them
selves more important, and others use their money to gain advantage.

In the U S infections are 13.4 million and 267,000 deaths by covid19.

It's reported that Trump is walking around the White House saying I won, I won, as if
he is lost all conception of reality. People can talk them selves into believing almost
anything. So it's possible Trump has done so.

If the GOP continues to control the senate, Moscow  Mitch may be slow to put
president elect Biden's nominations up for approval. He did this when Obama was
president, and claimed if H Clinton won during the last election he wouldn't approve
her pick for the supreme court, and hold it open till a GOP president was elected.
Knowing this he is libel to deny approval for Biden's picks, especially due to their
diversity. 

The supreme court is hearing a desire by the Trump administration to deny counting
anyone but citizens in the U S senses. If the court agrees several states will likely lose
representatives in congress, and millions of dollars in aid that is based on  population
listed in the senses. This is Trump wanting to punish states for their support of
undocumented  immigrants. I am sure this is aimed at Democrats since it would
benefit the GOP more. Since the court is more conservative, it's a good possibility it
will vote in favor of Trump, and we will be stuck with it till 2030. Just shows how votes
can end up damaging the country. Yet people continue to vote without proper consideration.

 A democracy is only as strong as it's voters. Many people don't even vote. Then
complain about the government. I know many don't favor it, but I think voting should be
compulsory. Just as jury service is. Perhaps if the government would offer a million
dollars randomly to a voter. More people would vote.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on November 30, 2020, 04:06:39 pm
Don't look for anymore stimulus this year from Congress, folks. :(

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/stimulus-checks-covid-relief-congress/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 01, 2020, 01:19:09 pm

in the U S infections are over 13.5 million and deaths are over 268,000.

The people of Georgia need to understand if the GOP keeps control of the senate
President elect Biden isn't likely going to be able to get relief for millions of people.
People who need food,and money for rent and utilities this winter. The GOP are only
interested in helping their rich friends and the stock market. Help for the needy is a
low priority. They want the states and charities to help the needy, so they can cut taxes
for the rich. This is why we need to kick millionaires out of government. They only want
to help themselves and their friends.

Covid19 vaccines are being shipped by air, where they are packed in dry ice. Most
will be stored in large hospitals till approved for distribution. Somehow in states with
GOP control, we will see politically decided distribution. I imagine Trump will want a
say in these decisions.  He is already wanting credit for their distribution across the
country. Apparently worried that president elect Biden might get it instead.

President elect Biden continues to pick people for his cabinet, and other government
jobs. Trump left many government jobs unfilled during his time as president. Perhaps
some weren't needed, but many were left unfilled because Trump didn't care enough
to do so. Trump never took the job of president seriously. When he ran for the job, he
claimed he would work harder than President Obama did, and hire the best people.
Instead he spent much of his time in the oval office watching cable news and tweeting
complaints about news reports about his bad deeds. Those he hired were mostly
cronies who only cared to feather their own nest, and did as little work as
possible.

The GOP is complaining that one of president elect Biden's picks is a bad tweeter.
Because she has accused them of not doing their job, among other things. Of course
the GOP members publicly approve of all the nasty things Trump has tweeted about
Democrats. It's likely they are just wanting an excuse to deny this very qualified 
person the job.  After all they want president elect Biden to have a hard time as
president.

Trump has said the state of Georgia shouldn't have a runoff election and just declare
their  two senators elected. Of course Trump doesn't have any authority to tell a state
to not have an election, but that doesn't keep  him from saying it.

Trump continues to rant and complain and likely will till he is no more. With each GOP
governors declaring a Biden win, Trump calls them unpatriotic and other nasty things.
His supporters continue to send him money supposedly to pay for court fights. I have a
hunch much of that money will find a different path as long as Trump runs the GOP. I
think this is a big reason he plans to run for president in 2024, so he can continue to
get millions in donations. Which over 4 years could exceed a billion dollars, maybe
even two. So Trump could end up actually being a billionaire after all.

Then again if he is convicted of one of his various offenses, his political prospects are at
an end. This includes state crimes, so pardoning himself won't protect him. President
elect Biden has said he doesn't plan to go after Trump, but will leave it up to the system
of justice to deal with him.  I am sure Trump will want to blame Biden and
the Democrats if he is indicted for anything.  In hope donations will continue to arrive.
His supporters don't seem to care what Trump uses their money for, and Trump is
happy to spend it for them.

Trump could have won the election with  ease if he had showed compassion, and was
a decent human being. The trouble is, he doesn't know how, much less cares for
humanity. He has spent his life believing people who help others are suckers and
 stupid. Likely because he was taught this while growing up.  He has said the poor
are losers,and deserving of how they must live. Trump will never change, and the sad
thing is he hasn't the mental ability to do so.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 01, 2020, 01:27:19 pm
EX President Trump's irrational behavior has a purpose. He needs to keep his fan base active. This way he can start pilfering them for donations.  I can see hem going directly to fox news once he's out of office. Use their platform to start his campaign for 2024. Claiming he needs donations to help win back the office that was stolen from him. This money will go directly to him. He can do anything he wants with it. Including helping him to pay off legal fees and fines he's facing once out of office. Any real news of how he's handling this money will be treated as 'fake news' or 'Trump bashing'.

After Palin and Trump it will be interesting to see the next clown the republican party supports for president. They still need a clown in office to keep America uninformed.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 02, 2020, 12:51:48 pm

In the U S infections are over 13.7 million and over 272,000 deaths.

The CDC is saying emergency room, and hospital covid19 care workers will be the
first to receive vaccinations once approved for use. Then those in nursing homes
would be next. I imagine there will be changes along the way, as there always  is.
Reports are it will likely be 2 weeks before any decision for use is made.

We need to continue the wearing of masks and use social distancing until we are
told otherwise. Because it will take months before enough people are vaccinated
where we can return to normal.

It would seem there is an investigation about bribes for pardons in work by the justice
department, no names, but only one man in the world can offer a pardon in this
country. So we  know who he is. Trump immediately called this fake news, just as he
always does when he is accused \of wrong doing.  The term fake news is the name he
has trained this  cult to believe is a lie by the news.

We can be sure Trump will give out pardons to non deserving people, If we want to
 stop the misuse of pardons, we will need to amend the constitution. Because we can
be sure if we get another person like Trump as president they will do the same.

The Attorney General Barr may be looking for work before January 20 if he continues
to irritate Trump. We know Trump usually fires those who fail to support him, much less
make him look bad. Now Barr is saying there is no evidence of fraud in the
election. So this isn't likely to make Trump happy.

The GOP and Trump claim they are waiting for the vote by state electors to accept
the winner of the election. Even then they claim Trump should be able to pursue law
suits in the court system. With his claims of inappropriate voting and subsequent
counts. Personally I see this as kissing up by the GOP to the cult of Trump. People
that want to only believe Trump their king. Because they fully accept votes for the
GOP, with no issues at all.

Moscow Mitch is claiming he wants to hear from the new administration before he
makes any decisions on relief ex year. This is the first time he has made any
indication that he accepts the fact that Trump has lost. Perhaps he feels he may lose
the two senators from Georgia. Even if he keeps control, it would only take two GOP
senators to put his control at  risk, and if one loses then only one could make it tough
for him.

In the past the senate nearly always approved those picked by a new president, unless
they had some serious reason not to. Never just for political reasons. But with a man
like Moscow Mitch, it's hard to say.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 02, 2020, 01:46:46 pm
If I remember right Ex president Trump peppered the DOJ with his picks. And if I remember right Barr is one of Ex president Trump's hand picks. And it would seem the only way to get a pardon would be to bribe Ex president Trump. So why is all his family members wanting pardons? Because they all know they are in deep DEEP, way over their heads, trouble. Well folks. As promised. The choir is about to start singing. This should be fun to watch.

Looks like there's going to be hearings on how this pandemic was handled. Folks, let us all sit back and watch. A pack of guilty monsters is about to accuse a fellow monster.  Let us all sit back and watch who among this crowd will be accused of killing off the most sheep. When they get all of the guests from Fox news network and Ex president Trump on the stand. Plus right wing media stars like Limbaugh. Plus their fellow republican party members. AND they all get accused. Remember the law I previously mentioned. It will be at that point in time I will start having faith in our government. The truth is I don't see any more coming from this than a good slap on the back and "Congrats for doing a great job everyone".
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 02, 2020, 02:24:32 pm
EX President Trump's irrational behavior has a purpose. He needs to keep his fan base active. This way he can start pilfering them for donations.  I can see hem going directly to fox news once he's out of office. Use their platform to start his campaign for 2024. Claiming he needs donations to help win back the office that was stolen from him. This money will go directly to him. He can do anything he wants with it. Including helping him to pay off legal fees and fines he's facing once out of office. Any real news of how he's handling this money will be treated as 'fake news' or 'Trump bashing'.

After Palin and Trump it will be interesting to see the next clown the republican party supports for president. They still need a clown in office to keep America uninformed.

If I'm not too mistaken, Trump has been getting irratated with FOX News lately the last few weeks and how they have been covering his actions. Trump has threatened to go instead to other right wing conservative news sources such as Newsmax and One America Network. It's been reported that FOX News has been losing viewership and ratings to these two new up and coming media outlets.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 03, 2020, 01:06:15 pm

Infections have exceeded 14 million and 275,000 deaths. Yesterday
2,700 people died from covid19, and hospitalization hit 100,000, and the
surge expected from the Thanksgiving holiday hasn't hit yet.  Even after
vaccination it will take several days to gain protection.

Trump is on a holiday party spree. As it turns out it will likely be GOP only events, so
there will be a ton of republicans on the sick list a bout the first of the year. Especially
after 20 more parties held inside, each having hundreds of guests. I have a hunch if
any need  hospitalization, they will have priority over the public at large. Also they will
likely get the latest covid19 treatments, even if no one else can.

 Trump lies with his claims the Democrats are elitists, when in reality most are
members of the GOP. People who grab power, and money every chance they get.
Unfortunately the GOP plays to the greed many people have, to get the votes they
need to hold power. Many people care for them selves first, except during disasters,
but even then some are happy to take advantage of peoples need to make  a lot of
money. This is the free market running wild if not controlled.

Trump posted a 45 minute video on Facebook that was filled with lies and claims only
he can save democracy. Apparently he felt the need to feed his cult with a online
rant due to his frustration of court failures to prove his wild claims of election fraud.
Facebook should remove this post for the good of the nation, because it is only a pile
of dirty lies designed to feed Trump's ego and cult. Even senator Graham,, a
staunch  GOP supporter of Trump called it a bad move. Especially since there isn't any
evidence to support his claim of fraud. I am not posting a link, if you wish to waste your
time watching it. You can find it your self.

Trump claims there are hearings across the country showing he should be the winner.
These so called hearings are just groups of GOP leaders complaining and trying to
please Trump with useless gab.

Some GOP leaders in Georgia are calling on voters to not even vote. Claiming the
election is rigged. Apparently trying to please Trump, but to me if the GOP wants to
win, they need to start working together, and do all they can to get voters excited
enough to vote  in large numbers.

Personally I  hope they blow it, so the Democrats will have a chance between now and
2022 to prove they can get something done, besides fighting among them selves. 
The GOP in 2017 had both houses and the White House, and all they did of
significance, was to  pass a big tax cut for big business and the richest Americans.

This country needs infrastructure repair. Trump claimed he would work for it, but his
big tax cut cost so much he had to forget it.  If Americans don't get the money they
need now, the economy is only going to get worse. The public must have money to
drive the economy. The GOP complain about the cost, but with a stronger economy
money from taxes will offset the costs. The GOP is smart enough to know this, but the
last thing they want to do is help Democrats.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on December 03, 2020, 05:17:47 pm
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/trump-to-congress-repeal-section-230-or-ill-veto-military-funding/

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/2/22037118/trump-section-230-repeal-ndaa-rider-facebook-twitter-moderation

This man is insane. I've heard that he's doing this because #diaperdon went viral on twitter. So being the kind of baby that he is with an ego more fragile than cotton candy he thinks it's a good idea to punish the internet by repealing section 230. What he doesn't seem to realize is that if it goes down twitter will ban him and delete all of his ramblings in order to not catch heat for having his crap up there.
Trump is really lashing out hard all over the place. A baby who lost the game and so now he's gonna break all the toys so no one else can have fun.

This is beyond being a sore loser. This is the actions of a whiny brat being told he can't have his way and now he's just out to hurt everyone for standing up to him.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on December 03, 2020, 06:39:10 pm
And how many people in the military sector voted for Trump because they had hoped it would HELP their jobs?!  And now he wants to hurt those who may have been a large part of voting for him? Oh man...

I didn't vote for him BECAUSE he is a "good businessman" which to me means he will back stab, cheat and force his way so he gets what he wants to acquire.  He didn't get rich by following rules or being nice.  To get that kind of money he probably used cheap under the table labor and abused workers.  Why would he not do similar to you and me?  I mean he is so unstable and unreal, he told Mexico to pay for a wall they had no reason to want.  Then we paid for it, and only part is made.  And it didn't stop anyone from crossing over to USA.

Any other republican would have done more for our country and military oriented jobs than he.  And even most democrats too, since they do not want to destroy our military either.  Stability, in any form, would have been preferable to him.
I have worked in military oriented jobs for 4 years now, and my brother 10+.  Neither of us can see any correlation to who is president.  Because in the end, military needs funding and gets it.  If trump kills this funding, it will prove how nuts he is.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 04, 2020, 01:14:39 am
Remember folks. What every Ex president Trump does in these last few weeks can be corrected next month. And you can always remember, with a smile, all of EX president Trump's signed executive orders that flew apart quicker than a stack of cards on a windy day. And the best part is Ex president Trump will be remembered through out history for his behavior these last few weeks. His entire presidency was a failure. No matter how bad he was as president. He will go down in history first as a man who lied about a pandemic that's killing thousands of Americans. And secondly for his irrational childlike tantrums. He is noting more than a stain on the American carpet, The very stain that has been covered up by right wing media for four years. Will be cleaned up in a few weeks.

I hear now there is an alternate universe news channel for trump fans. Wonder if they'll have conventions. Everyone running around in orange wigs and expensive suits.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 04, 2020, 12:45:07 pm

I imagine Trump has convinced himself, by continuing
to rant and rave online and TV, he can keep his cult
from fading  away. Only time will tell.

Job loss and the economy is getting worse with the pandemic expanding. This is
why a good relief bill is needed, Not a half harted one by the GOP which won't give
the economy the proper help it needs.

Apparently Moscow Mitch is afraid Georgia will elect Democrats in the run off election,
because he is talking about a relief bill. By doing this now, the two GOP senators
running in Georgia would be able to say they voted for the relief the people needed.
A gamble Moscow Mitch is likely to make.

Perhaps if GOP voters in Georgia don't want to vote for a Democrat, they should do a
write in vote for Trump. I think Trump would make a good senator, he has the mouth
for it.

The GOP is pouring hundreds of millions into the Georgia run off race. Seems the rich
and misinformed electorate think piles of money will buy enough votes to keep the 
senate in GOP control. Only the voters will tell. It's a shame the GOP is willing to spend
all that money for an election, but not to help the needy.

Reports are China is developing genetics to enhance soldiers for the battlefield. They
apparently are working to have superiority over the United States military. Sadly these
experiments will likely cause a lot of sorrow, because many will likely end up disabled.
I think China's leadership is smart enough to know a war would be a disaster for
the world, including themselves. So I think they would avoid war unless force into
it. Not to say they wouldn't push it to the edge, and having a superior military
would be  an advantage. I wouldn't attempt to predict what a man  like Trump would do, but
Biden would do everything possible to avoid a war.

Personally I don't think a vaccine that has
to be stored at 94 degrees below
zero is a good choice, as there will be a greater risk of spoilage.  Especially with a
vaccine coming that can be stored using standard refrigeration.

President elect Biden plans to ask people to wear masks for the first 100 days of his
presidency. Hopefully it will encourage more people to do so. Even those who don't
wish to. He knows a mandate isn't likely to succeed anyway, but he can still encourage
state governors to require their use.

In the U S infections have exceeded 14.1 million. Over 8.5 million active cases
and over 276,000 deaths.  Still approval for a vaccine
is weeks away.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 04, 2020, 01:36:20 pm
Remember folks. What every Ex president Trump does in these last few weeks can be corrected next month. And you can always remember, with a smile, all of EX president Trump's signed executive orders that flew apart quicker than a stack of cards on a windy day. And the best part is Ex president Trump will be remembered through out history for his behavior these last few weeks. His entire presidency was a failure. No matter how bad he was as president. He will go down in history first as a man who lied about a pandemic that's killing thousands of Americans. And secondly for his irrational childlike tantrums. He is noting more than a stain on the American carpet, The very stain that has been covered up by right wing media for four years. Will be cleaned up in a few weeks.

^ Not everything that Trump did may be able to be corrected/overturned by Biden. There may be some actions that will require Congress's approval. Specifically the Republicans in the Senate. If the Democrats don't win the two Georgia elections in January for Senate control, Biden will have an uphill battle trying to overturn a lot of Trump's actions as well as getting a lot of his Cabinet picks approved.

I hear now there is an alternate universe news channel for trump fans. Wonder if they'll have conventions. Everyone running around in orange wigs and expensive suits.

Trump and his supporters are already going to Newsmax, One America Network, and the social media platform Parler.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 04, 2020, 06:55:20 pm
Didn't see this one coming.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/politics/trump-pentagon-board-lewandowski-bossie/index.html

And if you think that's something, wait till you read this:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/politics/trump-nominee-pentagon-martial-law/index.html


Now about Biden's Cabinet picks...........I understand that Biden wants some diversity in his Cabinet. Blacks, Latinos, Native American, White, etc. But when a person considers and selects someone, that person should also have the experience and skills necessary to go with the job. Biden has said in the past that he wants a more diverse Cabinet. But he's also looking for expertise too. I've been reading in the news recently that various Latino, Black, and other groups are "pressuring" Biden to select more people of other races. Well, that's all fine and well to a certain degree. All these groups can say "Pick him! Pick her! Pick me". But what they don't understand is if the people they are suggesting to Biden don't have the necessary skills and expertise to do a certain job, then what's the sense in having them in Biden's Cabinet?

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 05, 2020, 02:32:05 am
39 more days. Ex president Trump just peppered the pentagon with loyalists. So what. I can imagine President Biden calling all the fired staff up. Telling them to enjoy a long Christmas holiday with friends and family. And be ready to go back to work on the 21st of Jan. And as far as the congress scare thing. No. Just no. Congress with all it's republicans has swatted the now Ex president Trump down a number of times. They've slapped him down. Lower courts have slapped him down. The Supreme court has slapped him down. And now America has slapped him down.

I'm wondering if Trump is so irrational he thinks by peppering the pentagon he will be able to use military force to stay in office. Even if he declared marshal law congress will have no choice but to slap it down. There is no war and America is not in clear or present danger. Ex president Trump ( i love typing that ) might as well declare himself king and dismiss congress, the house and the supreme court.

It's a shame. There's only 39 more days of this. This train has gone so far off the tracks it's become a parody of itself. What started out as an American horror story is now a comedy of errors. Kinda makes you wonder if it's possible to impeach a president after he's already been voted out of office. 39 days to find out. Sit back and watch the show folks.

Please take all left wing propaganda with a grain of salt. No president has the authority to do what ever he wants. It that were true Ex president Trump would have been able to do that four years ago. It's over. Get out and get some fresh air.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 05, 2020, 01:07:00 pm

I plan to stop my political posts after the Biden inauguration. My vision  is getting  pretty bad, but  I think these
posts are helping me use the computer with my failing vision. Otherwise I might just give up on it's use.

In the U S infections are 14.5 million  and over 280,000 deaths.  Yesterday
alone over  2,800 died.  While Trump and his cult watch people die waiting for
herd immunity to take over. This was tried in Europe and failed. Yet to please a mad
man and his cult and GOP do little to save lives.

Covid19 is still spreading. Sadly several GOP governor's still refuse to acknowledge
this reality while thousands sicken and die. All because they are putting their job over
the good of their state population to please a wild president.

One of Trump's loyalists that Trump appointed to the defense department is blocking
access to security information the Biden transition team needs for a smooth transition.
This petty action by the Trump administration puts the countries security at risk.  We
can only wonder what risks Trump is creating, trying to make it hard for Biden.

As usual the GOP leaders in Georgia are working to limit votes by people of color,
because they fear a big turn out by them. When asked the GOP cry, we would never
be elected if we let all democrats vote. Well if those in the GOP worked for the majority
they would get plenty of votes, and if they saw a real danger to the country, then
educate the people about it, but no, they only want to help themselves and those who
give them millions for re-election. This is why we need term limits, to get rid of career
politicians. Many have been in office for over 20 years, and several are well over
70 years of age, and should be retired anyway. Moscow Mitch is 79, and likely got
re-elected because of habit, not because he was doing a good job, which he is not.

I would think most people in Georgia would want to see the Democrats control the
senate with so many out of work and begging for food. They should know the GOP
has little interest in helping the needy, while Democrats do. After all with another
election in 2022, people could put the GOP back in control of the house if not the
senate. Of course the GOP fears with the increase in diversity of voters, they could
end up out of power permanently. Especially if they lose enough states.

Trump continues with his frivolous law suits across the country. One would think he
would be going through lawyers at the same time. It seems most judges are letting
lawyers get by with it, when they should receive punishment for filing such suits. 

Many GOP Senators sill won't publicly admit Biden to be the president elect. Most are
using the excuse, they want to wait for the electoral vote to give Biden their nod. This
is just a fear that Trump will tweet about them. They apparently expect he will start
a campaign for 2024, and continue to point his finger at them for non support. I have
a hunch most GOP leaders hope Trump will just go away, because he may end up
doing a lot of damage to the party, if not the country. Only time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 05, 2020, 01:39:15 pm
Old Rabbit. When Ex president Trump got elected the first thing he did was throw a party at one of his properties. He had the secret service bring what's called 'the football'. Just to show it off. The very first time Ex president Trump was given classified information he turned around and blurted out people's names. These people had to be rushed back to this country to keep them alive. Ex president Trump was never trusted with classified information again. The only real damage that could happen is Trump's loyalists could give information to Trump that has been kept from him for four years. But I wouldn't worry about that. To may watchdogs and loops to go through. What I really suspect is Ex president Trump thinks his pics will always be there. So President Biden will be treated the same way he was. This is more along the lines of Ex president Trump's childish irrational behavior.

I personally would miss your posts if you stopped. Perhaps make a new thread chronicling a new presidency.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on December 05, 2020, 05:54:43 pm
Get out and get some fresh air.

Wha-
NO! BAD!!

We're still in a pandemic! You can't just go outside and taste fresh air cause Trump is on his way out! The virus is still here!
I do hope you're being metaphorical with that Cause cause that is just.... No! DO NOT GO OUTSIDE UNLESS YOU MUST! Wear a mask! Stop walking into the clouds of death that science has outright TOLD YOU is a cloud of death!


I plan to stop my political posts after the Biden inauguration. My vision  is getting  pretty bad, but  I think these
posts are helping me use the computer with my failing vision. Otherwise I might just give up on it's use.

I'm sorry your eyesight is failing you Old Rabbit. But you have fought the good fight here chronicling everything. You deserve a nice long rest a warm cup of tea after this.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 05, 2020, 07:51:42 pm
LOL

Sorry Kay, I forget not everyone lives out in a small town with large yards. Plenty of space between me and everyone else.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 05, 2020, 08:28:02 pm
Quote
Wha-
NO! BAD!!

We're still in a pandemic! You can't just go outside and taste fresh air cause Trump is on his way out! The virus is still here!
I do hope you're being metaphorical with that Cause cause that is just.... No! DO NOT GO OUTSIDE UNLESS YOU MUST! Wear a mask! Stop walking into the clouds of death that science has outright TOLD YOU is a cloud of death!

Kay, you don't have to wear a mask if you go outside and it's just you and nobody else is around. If there's nobody near/around you for 50ft. or more, you should be ok without a mask. It's mostly when there's people a lot closer where you and others should wear a mask.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 06, 2020, 01:15:32 pm

In the U S infections are nearly 14.6 million and deaths are close to 283,000.

Covid19 continues to get worse, yest I sound like a broken record, but facts are facts,
and more people are getting sick and dying. While Trump and the GOP fail to show
the leadership needed to slow the virus. President  elect Biden is doing all he can, but
Trump is still the president, and is the responsible party. Instead he just complains and
lies about his lost election. Instead of doing his job he runs around doing little
but chasing golf balls.

One reason it's difficult for Democrats to defeat Republicans is the latter like to
vote, and often don't pay a lot of attention to who they are voting for, as long as it's for
the party.  Where many Democrats feel they need a reason to put up with the hassle to
vote. Then the GOP takes advantage of this by making it hard for Democrats where
ever they can. To limit people that understand the need to vote, because being a
voting minority they  fear any group who may come out in large numbers to vote.

The GOP work hard to convince people charity should be by the individual, not the
government. They go out of their way to convince people that being poor is by choice
and not by misfortune. They want people to believe a bottom up approach to 
government is the best. The reason is, it favors the rich, where a large business can
intimidate a local government into less regulatory limits and taxes to increase profits
that usually ends up in the owners pocket. Where it should go into the local economy.
People should remember, the rich spend little of their extra money locally.

Think not? When Trump had Trump Tower built, he bought the steel and aluminum he
needed from China. He and other rich people go where the costs are low. They care
little about who it might help or hurt. Even though they often depend on their countries
infrastructure to make their millions. Yet they work hard to keep from paying the tax
that pays for what the public provides.

People like Trump and the GOP claim this is being smart. They can call taking
advantage of hard working people smart, but I call it being unpatriotic, because we
should want to make the country better for us all, not just for oneself. Sometimes I
think Trump supporters look at Trump, and want to be just like him. This is sad,
because people like Trump step on the little guy for their own benefit, and this most
certainly does not make the country great.

Trump and the GOP claim they are against immigration, yet they use immigrants every
day for cheap labor. The only reason they say they are against immigration is because
they get more votes from ignorant people who don't realize that immigrants built this 
country with back breaking labor, and without them this country will eventually fail.

The GOP and Trump will lie to their own voters just to get their votes. Not small lies,
but lies that cost people their livelihood and even their health. For sure the
Democrats have their faults, but they do try to help the disadvantaged. To help
the hungry, and the disabled and elderly. While the GOP leadership look the
other way and complain that the Democrats just want to tax and  spend. The
sad thing is the
GOP turned against the middle class to  favor the rich. A move that has made the rich
richer alright, but has drove many of the middle class into poverty. It was success by
the middle class that made it possible for people to have the American dream. Not
to have fantastic wealth, but a comfortable lifestyle, and security for a family.

We should work to rebuild the middle class, because the rich just want to get richer on
the backs of what is left of the middle class.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 06, 2020, 05:11:22 pm
Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus. Karma works it's magic again, folks. This is why you should never mess with karma. ;)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/06/politics/rudy-giuliani-coronavirus-positive/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 07, 2020, 01:27:01 pm

In the U S over 14.7 million people have been infected and over 283,000 deaths.

Polls tend to show many people may not agree to get vaccinated, fearing it hasn't been
properly studied to show it's safety. This could put millions at continued risk, so hopefully
people will come to believe the vaccine is safe and effective.

 Attorney General Barr could be planning to resign by years end. So if Trump has
thoughts of firing him, he best hurry. We know Trump didn't like it when Barr reported
that there wasn't any problems with the presidential election. So only time will tell.

Reports are saying diplomats and intelligence agents may have been attacked with
a microwave weapon under development by Russia, and possibly China as well. It's
likely the Trump administration hasn't given this the attention it needs. As we know
Trump has been cozy with both Russia and China. Hopefully when Biden takes over
there will be a serious investigation and who ever is responsible punished.

I have a hunch president elect Biden will put friends of the GOP and Trump on notice,
where their free ride will soon end. Trump is pushing to get contracts with oil
companies signed, before president elect Biden takes office. To  open up Alaskan
coastal  areas, and lands to allow oil exploration, along with mining and tree cutting. 
Because once the contracts are approved it will be difficult to undo them. Perhaps as
president, Biden can invoke regulations that will make the pursuit of these resources
financially impractical. Because allowing this will put fishing and wildlife in these areas
at serious risk of pollution and environmental damage.  We can only wonder why
Trump is pushing this, unless it's to  get a large donation from these big companies.

Trump is pushing to make it more difficult to vote in GOP controlled states like Georgia.
He continues to file law suits that do nothing but feed his cult with lies about his lost
election. At least the GOP state leaders are unwilling to listen, as to do what Trump
wants would break both state and federal law. Most of these law suits are so
ridiculous that Trump must be hiring lawyers with promises of who knows what.
Because they are putting their license to practice law at risk by filing them.

I imagine Trump is going to continue with his claims of a stolen election all the way to
the end, and beyond. Just as long as he thinks it's to his advantage. We can only wonder
if he can continue to cow down the GOP  leadership. It seems to me if the
GOP leadership would stand together,against Trump, his cult would start falling apart.
Because many GOP members would turn away from Trump if GOP leaders told them
they should, and give good reasons to do so. As long as the leadership supports
Trump publicly, his  cult may as well.

 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 08, 2020, 12:23:34 pm
Trump's window for election subversion is closing.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/what-matters-december-7/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 08, 2020, 12:30:37 pm
No stimulus deal yet from Congress.
More and more people dying and getting infected from coronavirus.

And yet, the First Lady builds and praises a new tennis pavillion at the White House. Your tax dollars at work, folks.  :goldpissed:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/08/melania-trump-presents-white-house-tennis-pavilion-take-this-ctn-vpx.cnn

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/politics/melania-trump-tennis-pavilion/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 08, 2020, 06:25:16 pm
Yep,

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/supreme-court-pennsylvania-trump-biden/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/supreme-court-pennsylvania-trump-biden/index.html)

And everyone thought the supreme court was in Ex president Trump's back pocket. :)

The far left has as much bad propaganda as the far right.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 08, 2020, 07:43:47 pm
And more good news. Seems Trump doesn't have the sway he demands anywhere.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/defense-bill-house-vote-trump-veto-threat/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/defense-bill-house-vote-trump-veto-threat/index.html)

There's a real easy way to spot propaganda. If it could happen, might happen, we see it this way, If the tittle of the article doesn't match the information given. Or there is no clear 'yes or no' then it's propaganda. "Trump has replaced so and so with people loyal to hem. This could lead to..... yep it lead right to propaganda. "This may have an impact"... nope, it's not hitting anything, it's propaganda. Treat everything you read or hear like a weather report. Not like reporters are psychics. Because both left and right wings have plenty of fear, worry and anger for everyone. You will be a hole lot happier with out it.
 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 09, 2020, 01:01:56 pm

In the U S there are over 9 million active cases of covid19, and nearly 15.2 million
infections.  Deaths are nearly 287,000, and the surge from the Thanksgiving holiday is
beginning.

Trump and the GOP continue trying to keep him from having to give up the presidency.
Even the supreme court rejected a try to invalidate Biden's win in Pennsylvania. I am
sure this sent Trump into a rage, because even those he put on the court didn't
support him.

Trump says he will veto the defense Bill, even if it causes a government shutdown.
Claiming it's because of name changes for military bases. From confederate names to
others. Also to prevent the removal of statues of confederate leaders.  Apparently to
support GOP members from former confederate states.  I think it's time people accept
the fact the south lost the war. I have, and I live in an area that was part of the confederacy.
 If people want to set up areas for historical reasons, fine, but not for and
by the government.  The civil war was a sad part of our history, and should be left to historians.

Last summer Trump refused the offer to hold 100 million vaccines for the U S. Trump
claimed it was because he felt there would be several companies providing vaccines
soon. Personally I think he did this to protect drug producers who gave the GOP and
 Trump large political donations. So if there is a shortage this spring, people should
 blaime the GOP and Trump.

One of the big stumbling blocks holding up a relief bill is the demand by the GOP to
give big business legal protection. The GOP claim it just for the virus, but it's designed
to give broad protection beyond covid19. They don't want to admit it, but legal
protection already exists for businesses that follow worker protection guidelines
set up by OSHA. There again it's likely to pay large businesses for  political donations to
the GOP. Because OSHA requirements are often expensive.

It's time the people tell the GOP they must work for the good of the nation and not
for the good of the party. If they don't the Republican party is headed for it's demise.
Not right now, but in the not to distant future. Because the people aren't going to
continue their support of a party that treats minorities and the disadvantaged with
unfair laws, and cruelty. They should take a lesson from history. Push the disadvantaged
far enough  and they will fight back. Just as the french did with their
revolution.  Though Trump want's his followers to believe he really
won. He lost the popular vote by over 7 million. Just more proof
we need to elect the president with the popular vote.

Those in the far right have already suggested we have a capital punishment that is
more cruel, even to beheading for some offenses. This just shows how far some in the
far right are willing to go.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 09, 2020, 05:09:38 pm
Hmmm. This doesn't look good for Hunter Biden. But the bigger question is, will it affect in any way Joe Biden's presidency? Because if there is some form of trouble brewing, Trump and the Republicans are gonna capitalize on it for everything it's worth.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html

What Congress is proposing in the stimulus talks.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/congress-coronavirus-relief-package-proposal/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 10, 2020, 01:09:21 pm

In the U S nearly 15.4 million have been infected, and nearly 290,000 people have
died.  Yesterday alone there were 3000 deaths.

Preparations are being made to start distribution of the covid19 vaccine as I write this
post. So trucks can roll the moment the government gives the okay. These trucks will
have a police escort due to the chance they might be hijacked otherwise. These
trucks are UPS, and Fedex. UPS for the Easter U S and Fedex for the west.

Arguments continue in the U S senate over a relief bill to help the American people.
The trouble is most of these politicians never had a hungry day, or gone without a
warm place to sleep in their entire life. Democrats and GOP both have little
understanding of what it's like to be needy, or poor. This is why we need to get rid
of these multi millionaire politicians, and put people in office that know what it's like to
physically work to make a living for them selves and their family.

This with term limits would help, but I fear there will always be those in congress who
wish to help them selves first. So it will always take vigilance by the public to chase the
bad people out. The problem is those who know how to do a good job often have
worked hard and are in the habit of helping them selves, and need term limits to keep
them honest.

Both of the GOP senators in Georgia wanting to keep their senate seats are
multi millionaires. One has hundreds of millions with a private jet, the other a private
island to live on. So if you think either of them care about the average person in
Georgia, you are sadly mistaken.

Reports are showing possible evidence that the Trump administration  is hiding and
trying to destroy evidence of wrong doing. Now why would anyone be surprised at
that? After all when president elect Biden takes office, just about all of Trump's
activities can be looked into. Along with those of his cronies.

The Texas attorney General filed a law suit claiming the swing states should not have
allowed vote by mail. Because this allowed people of color to vote for Joe Biden for
president instead of for president Trump. Several other GOP controlled states join
with Texas. They want the U S supreme court to force these states to throw out all
votes by people of color, which would allow Trump to win, and likely several members
of the GOP to win their elections as well.  This law suit isn't likely to go anywhere, but it
is likely designed to just slow the  transition more than anything else. To make
president elect Biden look bad, along with the Democrats.

Ever since Obama won the presidency in 2008, the GOP decided any votes by people
of color should be thrown out unless they voted for Republicans. This decision by the
GOP leadership, changes the party into a white nationalistic party, much like the one
they had in the republic of South Africa several years ago. That party felt black people
were little more than animals wit few if any rights. A system called apart hi where non
whites were very restricted politically and economically. It appears the GOP wants to
create  a similar system here in the U S.

The GOP under far right control just might try this, but it will be their undoing, because
it would turn most other nations around the world against us, and wreck our economy.
Racists in this country must learn to live with a diverse population even if they don't
 like it. People have to learn to work together to have a prosperous society, and it's
time the GOP accepts this, along with equal rights for minorities.

 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 10, 2020, 02:01:18 pm
Explaining the Supreme Court lawsuit from Texas.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/trump-texas-supreme-court-election/index.html
.......and why it might fail.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/texas-ken-paxton-election-fraud-lawsuit/index.html

Debunking 5 conspiracies in Texas AG's case.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/texas-ag-filing-fact-check/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 11, 2020, 11:31:25 am
The latest Supreme Court/Election news:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/election-texas-trump-states-supreme-court/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/read-house-republicans-texas-supreme-court/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-trump-us-election-news-12-11-20/h_639dd53375cc74798021c8e7d67e666e

Latest news on stimulus talks which are failing.........again.  :(

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/stimulus-negotiations-latest/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/congress-stimulus-coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine/index.html

Coronavirus and vaccine news.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/business/vaccine-distribution-coronavirus/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-12-11-20-intl/h_60ced5e9e6dbfd91cc5e6d193252790a
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 11, 2020, 01:16:15 pm

In the U S infections are over 16.6 million, and over 293,000 deaths.

The covid19 vaccine should get emergency approval in the next few days. Starting
with health care workers and doctors. Followed by others at high risk. Most people
should have access to the vaccines by early summer.

Turns out that Trump is making sure his family, friends and political supporters
in Washington DC are  getting  effective treatment if they are infected by covid19.
Treatment that can cost 100,000  dollars. Just like what he  received. Treatment not
available to the thousands  that continue to die across the nation. As usual
throughout history, we can expect the rich, and powerful to get life saving
treatment even when  others can't.

 Over one hundred GOP representatives signed on to the same  law suit to
remove votes by people of color. It seems a lot of GOP politicians are running
scared of Trump  and his tweets. Apparently afraid Trump will kill their
chances to  be re-elected in 2022 by supporting replacements in state
primaries. It's time these chicken hearteded men and women put our
constitution ahead of them selves and their party, and tell Trump
he lost the election and he must live with it. Then they should tell  his
supporters they  shouldn't believe anything he tells them, and the facts.
If they all stand together Trump's cult will  fade. Besides Trump is a
coward,and faced with the truth he would likely go away without party support.

The GOP leadership, and their rich supporters apparently fear the country is
becoming too progressive, and will  work to prevent the super rich from being in control
of congress and the nation. They know many people of color,unlike many Democrats
tend to be progressive and will take the time to vote. Knowing this the GOP over the
last 40 years has worked to limit votes by people of color, and with the election of
Obama, and now Biden over Trump, largely due to  African American voters is proof
their fears are real. So we can expect the GOP leadership to work even harder to
keep power.

Since the end of world war 2, the GOP has sent thousands of soldiers to fight in wars
that put the rich more at risk than the country. The rich fear socialist programs, because
it would likely limit their control over government. Control to protect their way
of life. So they work to convince the public that social programs are bad for the nation.

The people are fortunate the Democrats took the house in 2018, as the GOP planned
to privatize all social programs, or just get rid of them. Trump planned to permanently
stop pay roll taxes that support Social Security and Medicare if he was re-elected.
Allowing these programs to run out of money by 2023. Letting millions of people
go hungry and lose their health care. Something the GOP has wanted to do for many
years. Using the excuse they need to reduce the size of government. In reality it's just
the rich not wanting to help those they consider to be lazy. Claiming it's their own
fault if they don't have any money to live on, and can just suffer and die.

I don't blame people in the GOP so much as I
do the leadership as most are hard working
people wanting to better their life. The sad
thing is the far right media continues to misinform
them,just to get their support.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 11, 2020, 07:26:56 pm
BREAKING NEWS!

Supreme Court hands Texas......and Trump.......another loss.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/supreme-court-texas-trump-biden/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/supreme-court-order-texas-election-case/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/trump-turmoil-supreme-court/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 12, 2020, 12:44:46 am
As far as I'm concerned everyone who signed and tried to get votes overturned should be viewed as traders to the United States of America. They are actively and deliberately undermining our democracy. Sowing loyalty to one man and not the country.

Ya!!! Supreme Court!!!

I'm sure everyone remembers when Ex president Trump decorated his golf club with fake pictures of himself on the cover of Time. I think it would be a nice gesture if everyone would post in Ex presidents titter feed. A nice picture of Biden and Harris on the cover of Time. With a hash tag, #real. Just to remind him to buy an issue.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 12, 2020, 11:05:02 am
Quote
I'm sure everyone remembers when Ex president Trump decorated his golf club with fake pictures of himself on the cover of Time. I think it would be a nice gesture if everyone would post in Ex presidents titter feed. A nice picture of Biden and Harris on the cover of Time. With a hash tag, #real. Just to remind him to buy an issue.

I guess I don't mind that Biden and Harris are on the cover of TIME. But I think health care workers and other first responders should have been on the cover instead. They are the ones......the heroes...... who really need recognition for all the hard work they are doing to help save people's lives.

As for Trump.........yeah, he lost. The Supreme Court slapped his hand and told him to STOP! But do you honestly think Trump cares or that he actually will "stop"? Not very likely. This is a guy who hates to lose. Somehow and someway, he is still scheming. He won't let this rest. Dec. 14th is when state electors cast their votes. Is it possible Trump could pressure various state electors to change their votes?
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 12, 2020, 12:53:48 pm

In the U S infections are over 15.8  million, and over 296,000 deaths.
As usual these numbers are often on the low side. I get them from the internet.
I have a hunch with the limited supply of the vaccine, many will be asking
"Do you have it yet"?

As of last night the FDA gave emergency approval to a covid19 vaccine. So we
should see it's use starting, perhaps as soon this weekend. First to get jabbed will be
doctors, nurses, and most health care workers. Then those workers who provide
needed services. Followed by those in long care facilities, and  the over 65 crowd.

Trump seemed to be very sure that the "His" supreme court would put him in the white 
House for another 4 years. So loser Trump continues with his attemps to stay president
 even after the supreme court rejected the stupid law suit filed by
the GOP attorney general of Texas. Even after all the GOP kissing up, Trump is still
heading for retirement on January 20.

I have a hunch Trump could be heard all over the White House when he heard the
supreme court decision, and I am sure everyone else was hiding under their desks.
Yet  Trump's $20,000 a day  New York lawyer said, were not done till Trump says
we are. Personally I think Trump's lawyer will end up being the winner when it's all said
and done. So all we can do is wait and watch while Trump spends his supporters
donations. Because he sure wouldn't spend his own money.

Moscow Mitch continues with his lies about how bad he wants to pass a relief  bill. All
he wants to do is find out how bad the Democrats really want it. So he can get all he
can for his rich supporters, before agreeing to anything. While this kind of manipulation
is mostly okay for many bills passed through the senate. Doing it now when so many
Americans are in need of help is discusting. The GOP is failing to honor their oath
to the constitution that says the governlment will protect and serve the people. But I m
sure they would claim they are, with their faulse claims they just want to hold down
costs for the taxpayers.  The American public will likely have to put the fear of GOD
in the GOP to move them more than an inch.

Well Trump becomes doctor Doom with a string of executions ordered for those on
death row in   federal prisons. Since many of these people are black, we can only
wonder if Trump is doing this as a way to punish black people for his election loss.
There are reports that southern states used executions as a way to give notice to
black people in the past. But who can say for sure if this was Trump's plan?

The vote of the electors is on monday, so you can be sure Trump will be on
twitter bad mouthing each vote for Biden.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 13, 2020, 10:47:00 am
The state electors will cast their electoral votes tomorrow. Here's what happens next.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/13/politics/electoral-college-vote-step-by-step-guide/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 13, 2020, 12:55:48 pm

In the U S infections are over 16 million, and deaths are nearly 300,000.  Vaccines are
now being shipped all across the nation. Hospitals should be vaccinating health
care workers tomorrow. We need to remember that we must  continue to use masks,
wash hands, and keep separations as recommended. Because this virus isn't going
away soon. Even once vaccinated or have recovered from covid19 you need to
continue to follow these rules if not for yourself, do it for the good of others.

People need to ignore any quick access offer of a covid19 vaccine, because there
will be scam artists online and making fake phone offers as well. All you will end up
with is less money, and nothing else of value.

Hopefully the people of Georgia elect Democrat senators, or president elect Biden will
be hamstrung, at least till 2022. Then only if the Democrats keep the house
and gain the senate then. If not nothing of significance will happen, because the GOP
doesn't want to do anything to help the Democrats. This will force Biden to use
executive powers to do much of anything. That will bring cries of an emperor president
from the GOP, and of course they will want to  forget about those Trump used.

Demonstrations of some violence occurred  in the nations capital over night.  As bad
as it is president Trump had his helicopter fly over in support of those supporting him,
and his anti democratic actions. Apparently Trump doesn't realize the danger he is
putting our nation in, with his attempt to steal the election from president elect Biden.
It's past time Trump officially admitted defeat, as he is only becoming a fool by not
doing so. With the electors vote tomorrow, it would be a good time for him to do it.

It is strange to me to see people who hate government interference in their lives would
support a president who plans to be a dictator. It seems they think Trump only wants
to help them fight government interference. Well if Trump really did gain that kind of
power, these people just might wish they never heard of Trump. Because he wouldn't
care about their votes  or support any more, and if they didn't like it. He would put
them in hard time prisons to get rid of them. Trump knows all about population control.
You can be sure is visits, and talks to dictators around the world weren't for nothing.

Trump wants to create a dynasty to run this country, and all his supporters are just
so much fodder in his mind. Unless your one of the rich elite that has  his favor, your
just another sucker to be used by him or to make him money.  I am sure most of his
supporters wouldn't want to believe this of their man Trump, but by the time they did
find out he would be very hard to get rid of, and might take a revolution to remove him.

No one really likes it when government messes with our lives, but sometimes it's for
the good of us all. Just like wearing masks, or soon to get vaccinated. Electing a man
just to get government out of our lives, sounds good in the short term, but it will bite us
in the end or even destroy all we hold dear.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 14, 2020, 10:22:44 am
The latest political news.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/electoral-college-donald-trump-joe-biden/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/13/politics/what-matters-december-13/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/stimulus-negotiations-state-of-play/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 14, 2020, 10:34:35 am
Track the electoral voting process here:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/2020-electoral-college-vote-tracker/index.html

Live updates on the electoral voting process.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/electoral-college-vote-2020-biden-trump/index.html


AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE HERBIVORES AND CARNIVORES TO CAST THEIR ELECTORAL VOTES TODAY FOR A NEW FURTOPIA BEASTAR. WHO WILL THEY CHOSE?  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 14, 2020, 01:18:49 pm

in the U S infections are over 16.3 million, and deaths are climbing over 300,000.

Health care workers and doctors are receiving vaccinations for covid19 this morning.
Most say they hardly feel it. Just like most vaccines. Nothing to worry about. Personally I
plan to get one when available. Even though I caught the virus in early October. For 
me it felt kind of like the flue, except it made me really weak. It took the better part of
a month to recover from it.  I should have natural immunity for a few months, but I
hear I should get vaccinated when I can, due to my age. I hope those who wish to
deny the
existence of the virus, wake up and get  vaccinated, because they can continue
to spread the disease if they don't.

 It appears government agencies have been hacked by the Russian version of the CIA.
Somehow I think it's mostly due to Trump and his poor leadership as president. Also
he never wants to accept the fact that Russia wants to pull us down as a world leader,
or even cares with his nationalistic attitude.

I know most of Trump's supporters think America first is a great idea, but we don't live
on a world alone. If we don't work with other nations, we and our economy will go down
the tubes. Then when countries like China,and Russia become true economic powers,
We will be playing second fiddle for sure. Personally I want the country to be a strong
world leader, not a second class nationalistic state.

Trump continues claiming the election was stolen from him, when it's he who  is trying
to seal it. Today votes by the electoral college will officially make Biden the winner of
the presidential election, and eligible to take the oath of office in January.

It appears Trump will continue to claim he won, and sadly GOP members of congress
are mostly going along with him. Claiming it's just a game to please Trump. A game
that should not affect our democracy in the long run. That may be, but around 30%
of the country really believe the election was stolen from Trump.

These people listen to the Far right media and if the GOP leadership doesn't call it a
lie by Trump, and tell it like it is. Many will continue to believe it. Some may even use
 this as an excuse to use violence, or start a personal war against Democratic leaders. 
All this will accomplish is innocent loss of life and injury. The government cannot allow
any group to physically attack and kill elected political leaders. If the
police can't stop it, the national guard will.

People need to understand, to have a civil society we must accept the rule of the
majority. If we don't agree, then we work to elect people who do agree with us. Crying
about a loss is childish. If people believe there is evidence of fraud, then work to prove
it. Conspiracy theories are just guesses that prove nothing. Only evidence should be
allowed to rule, not guesswork.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 14, 2020, 05:59:36 pm
Finally! A GOP congressman has the guts to stand up for what's right. Only..........it comes at a time where it's too little, too late.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/paul-mitchell-quits-gop/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/read-paul-mitchell-republican-party-letter/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/14/paul-mitchell-leaving-gop-republican-vpx.cnn

And as I finish writing this post, there's only 1 state left where the electors have to cast their votes: Hawaii. If I remember correctly, I think Biden did win Hawaii during the election. Anyway, the total as it stands now is: 302 for Biden, 232 for Trump. Hawaii has 4 electoral votes. As I said, I think Biden will win Hawaii which will bring his total to 306. Well above the 270 total needed to become President of the United States.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/electoral-college-vote-2020-biden-trump/h_283c5d22bc517e32e6399ce61f027717

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/14/donald-trump-electoral-college-votes-2020-election-acosta-sot-vpx-lead.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 14, 2020, 08:44:58 pm
Thank God! William Barr is resigning from the Justice Dept.  I never liked the guy.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/william-barr-out-as-attorney-general/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/ag-barr-resignation-letter/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/politics/bill-barr-donald-trump-ag/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 15, 2020, 01:04:17 pm

In the U S infections are over 16.5 million, and deaths are over 302,000.

Distributions of the covid19 vaccines are working their way around the country. Seems
the news media is searching to find snags in the system. It's a typical thing for them as
problems get attention more than success does. Still I think with this they should
use encouragement more than failure with their reporting. I will admit though they are
following successful vaccination stories from one hospital to another,  While some
responses to the injections vary, typically it's a positive experience.

The electors voted, and it is official, Joe Biden is the president elect, and Harris is the
vice president elect. It appears this has given some GOP senators the courage to
admit Trump has lost. Moscow Mitch even came out and admitted it after a speech
bragging about all the good Trump has done. Most of which was for the benefit of the
 GOP, and not for the public good.

Many small businesses across the country are desperate for government aid, along
with people who have no money for rent, food, or many other expenses. Already many
businesses are gone. So their employees will have to find new jobs. In the meantime
they need financial help from a government who is more interested in politics and the
people of this nation. Most of the problem is the U S senate under GOP control which 
has failed the people of this country for at least six months, ignoring the public need.
There appears to be some last minute movement toward relief funding, but very
limited. No cash for the people, or for cities and states.  Unemployment funding is
uncertain. So it's a wait and see situation. The Democrats have backed down on
much of their aid requests with the hope to try again in January under the new
administration. But if the GOP holds on to the senate, little is likely to be done.

Many people across the nation are doing all they can to help those in need, but even
this has limits with the economy doing so poor. Sure the stock market is making
millions for the rich, but it does little if anything for most Americans.

As bad as many in the GOP are, some are trying to turn the party around. These
people realize the party is headed for it's demise if it continues to follow the far
right, and it's tribalism. The GOP rose from the failure of the WIG party over 150 years ago.
So could history repeat it's self and see the GOP disappear? Only time will tell.

Trump continues his foolish attempt to defraud the election. Trump has spent much of
his life winning with legal fights using his wealth to wear down those he faught  against.
So perhaps he really feels he can do the same against the government. Either that or
it's to con his supporters into sending him a lot of money using his misleading lies.
Money he apparently can put in his own pocket. Perhaps his supporters like the idea
they are making their man Trump a lot richer.

Trump decided to send his Attorney general Barr on his merry way, we can only
wonder when he expects Barr's replacement to do. There isn't time to do much, but
with Trump's vindictive nature it's hard to say.

While the GOP, Trump, and his followers worry about their future, many Americans
continue to help their neighbors. We should remember, while the News media spins
their reports of gloom. Real Americans are helping each other.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 16, 2020, 01:15:58 pm

In the U S there are over 16.7 million infections, and over 203,000 deaths.

It appears the FDA will give emergency approval for another vaccine by this Friday.
Since this vaccine can be stored at home freezer temps, it will be much easier for
rural hospitals,and clinics to make the vaccine available to people in those areas.

By the end of the year, about 20 million health care workers and people in high risk
care facilities should have been vaccinated. By the end of February nearly 100 million
should be as well.

Some people may have concerns that a vaccine developed so quickly may not be
safe. People need to understand that improvements in technology has made it
possible along with the need. Even though Trump has spread lies about doctors and
hospitals using the virus to price gouge the public, I really doubt much of this is going
on. If anyone is guilty of price gouging, it's the developers of the vaccine, and I
wouldn't be surprised if Trump is making money on the side.

This country is in need of fresh leadership. Our government has too many people that
have little understanding of the needs of young people. It's time we sent the over 65
crowd home. Yes they have a lot of experience, but not the kind Americans of today
need to do the job. Being as old as most of them, I can understand why they still
think they aren't ready for retirement, but they really are.

Though many people even past 80 are still sharp of mind, but some at 60 don't realize
how they have slowed mentally. Dementia can sneak up on a person. I think our
government leaders should have requirements of mental fitness. Even now there are
people in congress who have memory problems. Not just in the GOP, but across
party lines. Especially those who must make quick decisions for our national security,
need to be mentally fit. Prior to the era of intercontinental missiles, leaders often had
days if not weeks to make decisions of war. Now, even seconds of indecision could be
deadly. So it's past time to consider the mental fitness of those in office, according
to their responsibility.

Sadly since people are reactive, and often not proactive, it will likely take a disaster
caused by indecision for any changes to be made. So I don't see anything serious
being done in the near future. Mainly because it would take a cultural change to get
people to really accept it, and that takes time.

This gets back to the need for term limits. As is someone can be elected, and stay
in office as long as they can get people to vote for them. Even till they die.  Term limits
would go a long ways in keeping fresh faces in government, and help prevent someone
from talking voters into keeping them, even though they should not.

Also term limits would help bring more diversity to government. Only this puts people
of various races and beliefs where  they can make society better for everyone. The
way it is now, a popular person in office who has racist feelings can damage our
society. Where term limits would at least remove their influence after a while.  Some
states have term limits now, but it's time the federal government did. Sadly the only
reason the presidency has term limits is because the GOP was afraid another Democrat
like FDR, might end up being a long term president.

Though the electoral system needs to be done away with, the GOP would likely fight
to keep it. Because they have lost the popular vote more times than not. They would
likely be against term limits too, because they would fear the loss of a popular man in
office.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 16, 2020, 02:29:50 pm
There is a "slim" chance of another round of stimulus checks for Americans. But even if it is approved, don't expect it to be $1,200. It may be much lower at $600 or $700.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/politics/stimulus-negotiations-state-of-play/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 17, 2020, 12:49:58 pm

In the U S infections are over 17 million and over 307,000 deaths.

The House,and Senate passed a defense bill that Trump claims he will veto, because
it requires name changes for southern military bases. The bill passed by a veto proof
majority, so unless some GOP members are afraid to vote to over ride Trumps veto,
it will pass anyway.

Also a covid19 relief bill is in work. It's too early to say, but it should give some
temporary help for millions of Americans.

As I have said, Trump wants to turn this country into a autocracy, where he can be
the absolute ruler or dictator. Just like the Chinese leader,and Putin of Russia. We
may be very fortunate that Trump lost his re-election, because during another 4 years
he might have been able to get a third term, and possibly managed to have a
constitutional convention started by the end of that term. Because if the GOP
was able to gain control over election results, they could do most anything to
the country, and as long as it appeared to be political, there would be little the
people could do.

Other democracies around the world have been taken over by corrupt political groups
who disrupt elections, to convince the population the opposition is trying to take over
the country. Once they convince the public they only want to save the country, they
can secretly take over, claiming they have to keep power for the public good. If they
are able to take control of law enforcement, and the military, it's all over.

Personally I think the super rich are using the GOP to take control of the country. Not
so much in the open, but as a shadow government. I don't think this is new, but as
these people gain more wealth and power, the harder they will work to protect it.  Even
to have a oligarch to lead the country. Trump fits this, but I think they would rather
have a smarter man to lead them. This is mostly a guess, but the rich are giving the
GOP and Trump a lot of money for some purpose, and I don't think it's all for
legislation alone.


Reports are saying Trump, after watching a so called expert on far right media, say
the U S should work toward herd immunity. Then said this would quickly return the
nation to normal again. Along with the economy, and likely cinch Trump's re-election.
According to the report this got Trump all excited and ordered his people to do all they
could to increase the number of covid19 infections across the nation. This is why he
wanted colleges and schools re-opened. So they could help spread it to their families,
and home communities.

What this so called expert failed to say, was that the herd immunity experiment was
failing in a European country.  As with many so called experts, they like for people to
believe what they say, no matter who it might hurt. Apparently the media station was
out to please Trump, and didn't investigate this claim prior to putting this guy on.

So it seems this may have caused the deaths of tens of thousands. By Trump thinking
if he could get herd immunity going, he would be a cinch to be re-elected, and it
mattered not that this attempt could cause the deaths of millions before the required
70% of the population was infected, and even then it could fail. Just more proof that
Trump cares nothing for anyone but himself.

Trump continues to claim he hasn't lost yet, but this foolish claim is likely just to keep
the donations coming, because all that is left is for congress to count the electoral votes.
Yes there are reports that the GOP may try to disrupt this count, but it's just
a show to please Trump, and nothing more.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 17, 2020, 02:52:41 pm
Did you all catch Ex president Trump's latest action? He signed a bill wiping out the 1990's water conservation act. Ex president Trump claims "when you turn the shower on all you get is a drizzle." "People all across America have to flush their toilets 15 times." And so one. Just another lie that's lead to another joke this guy will be remembered for.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 17, 2020, 04:18:51 pm
Did you all catch Ex president Trump's latest action? He signed a bill wiping out the 1990's water conservation act. Ex president Trump claims "when you turn the shower on all you get is a drizzle." "People all across America have to flush their toilets 15 times." And so one. Just another lie that's lead to another joke this guy will be remembered for.

Yeah, I heard about that long ago. I guess Trump couldn't get enough water to wash that beautiful orange hair of his.  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 17, 2020, 07:38:46 pm
RUSSIA HACKS U.S. GOVERNMENT! NEWS AT 11!

While Trump has been sitting on his butt and crying foul about the election and how he lost, Russia hacked the U.S. government for weeks or even possibly months.  :o This is quite possibly the worst hack by Russia ever against the U.S..
Just remember one thing, folks. This happened on Trump's watch/term. Nobody else's. So if Trump decides to enter the 2024 presidential elections, just remember not to vote for him because of this mess and how he wants to be "friends" with Putin.  >:( Anybody who let this hack happen, even including Trump, should be called a traitor and tried for treason.  >:( THEY LET THIS HAPPEN!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/politics/trump-silence-cyber-hack/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/15/politics/what-matters-december-15-russia-hack-explained/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/politics/tom-bossert-trump-us-agencies-hack-russia/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/tech/solarwinds-orion-hack-explained/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/politics/us-government-agencies-hack-uncertainty/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/politics/us-government-hack-extends-beyond-solarwinds/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 18, 2020, 12:44:29 pm
Looks like we may be faced with a government shutdown, folks..........unless a miracle happens to avert it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/government-shutdown-stimulus-negotiations/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/second-stimulus-check-congress-12-18-2020/h_6beac5fe6b825d9d3b47378d8b26976e

In other news........

Donald Trump, by the numbers.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/trump-presidency-by-the-numbers/index.html

Where is Donald Trump? Donald Trump doesn't care.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/politics/what-matters-december-17/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/donald-trump-absent-covid-stimulus-vaccine/index.html

Americans suffer as Covid rages.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/pandemic-america-poverty-unemployment/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 18, 2020, 01:16:58 pm

In the U S infections are over 17.3 million and deaths are nearly 311,000.

Covid19 is running ramp it in California and most states across the nation. Deaths have
been running over 3000 a day for a week now, and still increasing. It's the lack of
health care workers more than hospital space that is the danger. People suffering
emergencies for reasons other than this virus are dying because of being turned away
or while waiting for aid.

The GOP is still trying to limit the size of the covid19 relief bill. Since this bill is to be
part of the operating budget for the government, we could see a short term government
shutdown which could start tonight. It seems one GOP member is the main cause for
the delay. Could be he is doing this on Trump's orders, who can say, but Trump is still
mad, and still claiming he really won the election.

Shipments of vaccines for some reason are less than promised to the states. The
Trump administration is blaming the vaccine producer who claimed they are just
waiting for orders. We can only wonder what the facts are. If it turns out that Trump is
behind this for some reason, it will likely hurt him, because it's affecting everyone.

The Russian hack into our government network shows why secret government  data
does not belong on the internet, much less accessible online. No computer
with access to government data should be capable of using or receiving email, or have
access to the civilian internet. None of the countries utilities should be allowed to be
on the civilian internet. Yes it would complicate their use and control, but as anyone
familiar with computers knows the easier they are to use, the easier they are to hack.

Yes it would cost a lot to make the needed changes to networks, but the damage it
would prevent, would cost much more. I don't really blame those who bought into the
current structure, It's the fault of computer manufactures who wanted to sell systems
designed mainly for civilian use.  Also the design of the internet did not take into
account that people might hack to steal data. Even though it's really too late to change
, the internet should be revised to make hacking a lot harder, and easier to track those 
who use it.

Also all new computers should be designed with hardware switches that can be used
to make them impossible to hack. Software can be hacked, but hardware cannot.
I doubt if changes like this occur, because of cost, but it should. I am a bit surprised
that computer manufactures aren't pushing for changes to increase security. After all
it would make them billions in sales. Of course this all presupposes no one purposely
allows access to systems, after all only guards can keep people from stealing
or changing hardware.

Even with this Russian hack there is no sign that Trump has any plan to punish
Russia. Microsoft reports that at least 40 government agencies have been
affected, and it's likely the hackers are still in the agency networks. I wouldn't be
surprised if Trump is to blaim and won't do anything about it. Leaving it for Biden to
deal with. If espionage is pardonable it shouldn't be. Personally I think Trump has
been giving secrets to Putin, and others. I hope I am wrong, but we know Trump loves
to brag about what he knows. Only time will tell.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 19, 2020, 12:07:25 pm

In the U S infections since February are  over 17.2 million and deaths are over 311,000.

The FDA has given emergency approval for a second covid19 vaccine. So this should
go a long ways in slowing the pandemic in our country,  Hopefully Trump doesn't try
to interfere with the distribution prior to president elect Biden taking over.  Distribution
is still being slowed for some reason, yet unknown.

The GOP is spending huge sums of money in their attempt to keep control of the
senate. Even this may not save the two corrupt GOP senators trying to keep their
senate seats. Because voting in Georgia is running at record levels.  As we and the
GOP know, big turnouts can be bad news for the GOP. They are apparently scared,
because they have gone  to court with law suits to limit early voting. Fortunately the
two suits they went to court with were thrown out.  Still we can expect them to not give
up with three weeks to go before the election in January.

If the GOP does keep control, we can be sure Moscow Mitch will stand in the way of
the Biden administration. During the last two years of the Obama administration
Moscow Mitch spent months slowing appointments of nominations he needed, and as
many remember,  refused to appoint Obama's nomination for the  supreme court. Even

if the Democrats get control, it will only be for two years, because in 2022, more senators
will be up for re-election.   Americans need to realize, if the GOP get enough control, they
will do all they can to limit voting by people of color. Because many in the GOP feel only
white people should  rule this country. They know eventually they will lose, but if they
get their way it will  take many years to undo their dirty work.

Congress has passed a bill that keeps the government open over the weekend, and
they expect to work out an agreement by sometime tomorrow. Well only time will tell as
the GOP is still against giving people much help, claiming giving them money will
just make people lazy. This is an age old claim by the GOP.  The excuse they use
anytime the Democrats try to help the needy.

The biggest problem I see with government aid is they never want to give people the
help they really need. Apparently wanting to keep them from climbing out of poverty.
Because once people can stand on their own, their politics just might change.

I was actually thinking I was going a bit overboard, but it appears the radical far right
crowd is hinting that to hold power, Trump should declare marshal law. Using the
insurrection act. Well he best study that, because he would be turning government
control over to the military. While it is true he is commander in chief, that doesn't make
him king, and the military has already said they will have no part in anything political.

I think this is why Trump has been playing up to the military, but above all they support
the constitution. So if Trump tries to side step the constitution, the military isn't likely
to support him. Especially if it's a political move to keep power.

With about a month to go, Trump isn't likely to hide under a rock, so we can expect
a lot of crap from him and his far right cronies between now and January 20.  I just
hope we still have a democracy by then.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 19, 2020, 12:39:45 pm
The fallout from Russia hacking the U.S. government keeps getting worse.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/18/james-clapper-intv-russia-hack-intelligence-sot-nr-vpx.cnn

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/tech/solarwinds-hack-companies/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/pompeo-us-government-hack-russia/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/us-government-hack-early-signs/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 19, 2020, 05:03:49 pm
I know this is going to sound completely offal of me. But at this point I don't care. The republican party needs more of this.

US State Senator Jerry Relph dies after Covid-19 diagnosis

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-12-19-20/h_6c7e66d39c8be51023acc3ea4d2f7b67 (https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-12-19-20/h_6c7e66d39c8be51023acc3ea4d2f7b67)

Heard immunity means we are nothing more than cattle to them. Let them be cattle too.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 19, 2020, 06:05:39 pm
Yep, I read that. Though there aren't many details forthcoming about how he died and so forth.
All these gov't Senators need to heed warnings and stop ignoring masks, stop going to gov't parties and functions, etc. You reap what you sow.

In other news.........

Why the future of the Republican Party looks good.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/opinions/biden-won-republican-astonishing-victories-bond/index.html

Why the Electoral College is here to stay.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/electoral-college-analysis/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 19, 2020, 06:26:11 pm
Trump has been using every dirty trick he can think of the last several weeks to try and get the election results overturned.

Could declaring martial law be next? Some of Trump's friends are suggesting it to him. And Trump seems to be listening.  :o
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/19/oval-office-meeting-trump-martial-law-powell-flynn-diamond-sot-nr-vpx.cnn

And a slightly related article:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-dominion-voting-systems/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on December 19, 2020, 07:35:42 pm
Heard immunity means we are nothing more than cattle to them. Let them be cattle too.
(https://i.gifer.com/8R1Q.gif)

Trump: See the thing about viruses is they can only infect so many people. Knowing its weakness I sent wave after wave of the poor and ignorant into the plague till enough people died that herd immunity was reached. Kiff, I mean Mike, show them the medal I won.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 19, 2020, 11:27:12 pm
Oh no! NOT FOX NEWS NETWORK!!! How could they???? Apparently after threat of legal action.

After legal threat, Fox airs news package debunking election fraud claims made by its own hosts

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/business/fox-smartmatic-news-package/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/business/fox-smartmatic-news-package/index.html)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Grab some buttered popcorn folks. It's getting good.

Really REALLY and I mean REALLY hoping for legal action against the network. With this action against them if they or their corespondents or guests claim anything other than the truth the hammer is coming down fast.

On another subject. Ex president Trump can NOT proclaim martial law just because he wants to. There are laws in place.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 20, 2020, 11:14:35 am
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On another subject. Ex president Trump can NOT proclaim martial law just because he wants to. There are laws in place.

Yes, there are rules, regulations, and laws in place. But do you think any of that means anything to Trump? Hell no. If he or his cronies can find a loophole..........any loophole........to overturn and do something, then they will. Trump hates to lose. It's not in his nature, or the rest of his family's.

In other news.........

Congress getting ever slightly closer to a stimulus deal.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/politics/congress-stimulus-deal/index.html

Trump only cares about himself and screws everybody else.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/politics/donald-trump-martial-law-election-2020/index.html

Trump's impeachment foretold various things.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/politics/trump-impeachment-us-political-future/index.html

Heated oval office meeting included talk of special counsel and martial law.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/19/oval-office-meeting-trump-martial-law-powell-flynn-diamond-sot-nr-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-oval-office-meeting-special-counsel-martial-law/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/us/politics/trump-sidney-powell-voter-fraud.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-dominion-voting-systems/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 20, 2020, 01:01:53 pm

In the U S infections since January are over 17.5 million, and over 316,000 deaths.

The covid19 relief bill is still in work. It appears cash payments of 600 dollars and
300 dollar addition to unemployment is possible. Trump tweeted he felt a bigger cash
payout to Americans would be good. I really think he did this to just muddy up the
process, not to help people.

Trump could be taking a victory lap of sorts on his way out, with two vaccines to slow
the pandemic, but no, he appears to only want to cause all the harm he can on
his way out instead. To make the transition to a Biden presidency as difficult as
possible. To convince his supporters as much as possible that his defeat was
illegitimate. All due to his vindictive selfish nature.

Trump continues to defend Russia. I could be wrong, but I think it's because Trump
hopes Putin will let him set up a real estate business in Russia. To build a high rise
hotel in Moscow. Well I think Trump is in for a disappointment. I think Putin will ignore
Trump once Biden replaces him. Just as he did before Trump became president.

More reports about Trump and his possible declaration of Marshal aw.
It seems Trump is considering the idea of having the Military seize the ballot boxes in
the swing states. To do a recount? Or who knows what to make him the winner. If he
did try this, reports are we would see many resignations and it's likely the Military
would refuse as it would be an unconstitutional act by Trump. The only constitutional
way to use Marshal law is through the insurrection act, and that is to use the military
to stop a revolution or public unrest that civilian law can't deal with. Nothing in relation
to help a unhappy president that has lost his re-election, legitimately or not.

Trump's supporters need to understand, there will be another election in November
 of 2023 ,. If they still want Trump they can  vote for him then. Name calling and
shouting is unproductive, in spite of  Trump's lies the election was honest. Supporting
a man who just hates to lose doesn't help anyone. It's time to work for the good of the
country, not just for a party or a man.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 20, 2020, 03:58:36 pm
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On another subject. Ex president Trump can NOT proclaim martial law just because he wants to. There are laws in place.

About that..........

He conceivably could through the Insurrection Act.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/media/stelter-trump-martial-law/index.html

Quote
Nevertheless, even the mention of martial law may fan the flames of many supporters clinging to the belief the election result was fraudulent. That could incite violence to bring the idea into fruition.

"In the conspiratorial conservative base of supporting Trump, there are calls for using the Insurrection Act to declare martial law," said Elizabeth Neumann, former assistant secretary of Homeland Security under President Trump and adviser at Defending Democracy Together, on CNN's "Reliable Sources."
"When they hear that the president is actually considering this, there are violent extremist groups that look at this as a dog whistle, an excuse to go out and create ... violence," she said.

It's a concept she calls "acceleration," in which violent extremist groups, especially White supremacists, try to overthrow of the United States government. These groups believe that will take place through a civil war and look to "accelerate the chaos, accelerate the coming of the civil war."
"So when they hear that the president is open to this idea of martial law, we may see certain groups mobilizing to commit acts that, in their minds, a justification for the use of the Insurrection Act," Neumann.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 20, 2020, 04:52:18 pm
Another article worth reading.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/opinions/trump-sidney-powell-out-of-control-election-obsession-honig/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 20, 2020, 05:16:02 pm
Yes. Ex president Trump has  a fancy toy to play with. However it's up to each state to say yes or no. And as far as the army of violent supporters go. Really? Why make this sound like thousands will rush in?  They could cause problems. Not denying that. But making it sound like most Trump and QAnon supporters will take up the fight is fearmongering at it's best. Each state has a National Guard. We have our states headquarters in the small town I live in. They are NOT a lightly armed group of boys and girls. These are some heavy and big gun equipped and well trained solders. In this day of 'everyone is a camera' it would be very hard for any group to not be identified and dealt with.

Remember folks. CNN does their share of fearmongering too.

Even Ex president Trump's staff is working against him. They were the ones that went right to the media, the real media, to let folks know what Trump was thinking about doing. It's about time we had transparency from the White House. Took almost four years.

Grab a soda and maybe a box a candy to go with that buttered popcorn folks. This show should get even funnier before it ends.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 20, 2020, 05:22:13 pm
The thing about insurrection and martial law is.........would the military really get involved or not? And how much? Would some military leaders/elements "rebel" against Trump's orders? How would such a scenario play out?

In other news..........

Trump never did get TIME's Person of the Year. But he did get "Lie of the Year".  :D
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/dec/16/lie-year-coronavirus-downplay-and-denial/
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 20, 2020, 05:26:35 pm
Kobuk. You posted before I finished and I posted before reading yours. So it's even funnier now!  :D :D :D :D :D

Nope. A president can NOT post a special legal counsel. This is just another "I'm the king and you will obey me" move. The guy is an ongoing joke.

What I really would like to see is Trump going to far. And all the right wing media follows him off the cliff. 

Better make that a extra large bucket of bettered popcorn. This show is getting really good now.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 20, 2020, 05:46:22 pm
I'll take my popcorn lightly buttered and lightly salted, Thank You. ;)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 21, 2020, 12:41:31 pm

In the U S infections are over 17.8 million, and over 318,000 deaths.

The covid19 relief bill should be voted on today, but who can really say as GOP
members could still stall it's passage. So only time will tell.

Covid19 vaccine deliveries are still seeing delays across the nation. Seems the excuse
is due to logistics. Well that seems a bit thin, but hopefully deliveries will improve as
time goes by.

So far side effects from the vaccine have been minimal for the vast majority of those
injected. The big warning is for  people with allergies. They should check with a doctor
prior to any vaccination.

A more infectious mutation of covid19 is apparently spreading in Great Britain. So far
the big difference is it's infectious nature, and not more dangerous to the body. Also
the vaccine appears to still be effective. Reports are this vaccine can be quickly
adjusted to deal with mutations as needed. Travel to  and from the U K has been
stopped to many countries for now, but I wouldn't be surprised if this mutation has
already arrived in the U S, and likely will circle the globe by the end of the year.

This is all the more reason for people to avoid travel over the holidays. Yet I hear over
80 million will likely travel anyway. 2 million plan to travel by air. So with this virus
mutation and people moving around, and parties everywhere, we will likely see a huge
surge in infections by early January. Yes many will be vaccinated, but not enough to
prevent the surge that is likely to arrive, followed by many deaths.

Trump is still worried more about his election loss than anything else. So  we shouldn't
expect much from him. His Attorney General is resigning today, and still see's no
reason to investigate further for voter fraud. This, of course sent Trump into a rage, as
it didn't support his lies, or claims.  Barr even said he feels the computer hacking
points to Russia. This goes against Trump's China claims. So it's no wonder why
Trump wants Barr gone. Trump doesn't want anyone that fails to agree with him, lies or
not.

There is some evidence that the Democrats are slightly behind in Georgia voting to
replace the GOP  senators. If these two do hold on to their seats, we can expect
a senate that will continue to support the super rich, and will do little for the next
four years. So Georgia voters best get busy if they want a senate that is willing to help
the average American. Especially those affected by covid19. The only reason the GOP
is working to pass the current relief bill is to help the two GOP senators from Georgia
win their re-election. Otherwise they would have gone home already after passing
a bill to keep the government running, and little else.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 21, 2020, 01:17:59 pm
The latest on the Covid relief and stimulus.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/second-stimulus-check-congress-12-21-2020/h_00eb559e4bae8c2c7b54774941ccab9b
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/politics/second-covid-stimulus-package-details/index.html

Bill Barr is going to be in hot water after disagreeing with Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/politics/william-barr-hunter-biden-election-special-counsel/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/politics/william-barr-russia-cyberattack/index.html

Sidney Powell back at the White House. What is she and Trump up to? Hmmm?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/politics/sidney-powell-white-house-trump-election/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 21, 2020, 02:19:35 pm
Because it's funnier than it looks.

Barr in trouble with Ex president Trump? So a guy without a job is angry at a guy who tells him, "Your fired. Stop wining and go home." And this is supposed to matter?  :D Who is Barr not in trouble with? The CIA, FBI, The House, Senate........ you get the picture.

Apparently Ex president Trump got word that all his staff went running to the real press. So Ex president Trump had a privet meeting with Sidney Powell. So what. It's my guess they got together to discuss what to do with all the documents they've been court ordered not to destroy or alter. Ex president Trump knows he's in real legal trouble. And like any conman his looking for outs.

This is like watching one of those old black and white mystery movies.

There's one cast member we haven't heard from. Giuliani. The dejected lover? This guy is way to narcissistic to stay out of the picture. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 21, 2020, 07:34:03 pm
I was on the phone tonight with my mom talking about Christmas stuff, and a side conversation popped up where she reminded me that there was a chance Trump could still win.  :o Despite the election happening on Nov. 3rd and people voting more for Biden than Trump, and despite the state electors casting their votes on Dec. 14th.............the electoral votes still have to be certified by Congress on Jan. 6th. And that's where things could get messy.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/electoral-college-vote-2020-biden-trump/h_283c5d22bc517e32e6399ce61f027717

Click the link above and scroll down till you get to an article titled: "Your questions, answered: How challenges in Congress to the Electoral College's reported results could unfold."

If Repubs vote as state delegations, that benefits Repubs who control more state legislatures. And Trump could still win. Not a pleasant thought.  :(

More news links for further reading:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/politics/house-conservatives-trump-meeting/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/politics/trump-white-house-sidney-powell/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on December 22, 2020, 01:04:56 am
I do not know why popular vote is not the way to go these days.  We all can vote via mail, in person, computer?
This is not 1800 where no one had much more than a 6th grade education and towns were a few thousand and spread out over hundred miles or so. We can get from point a to point b in a day or less and instantly if we use a computer.  Let's do away with electoral college. 

Colorado had a thing on the ballot to opt into a thing where popular vote was what chose the president for the state.
If the union is for the people by the people etc, why not let the people speak and that is that?
Popular vote is the voice of the people.  The president is he servant of the people.
Or maybe I live in a different dream world altogether. It is late.

I think Kobuk, that the chance is low that Trump is president.  But will have to see, won't we. Isn't it fun, this experiment we call democracy!?!?!
 :P
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 22, 2020, 03:24:07 pm
The ugly part of the $900+ billion stimulus.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/opinions/stimulus-deal-ugly-part-sachs/index.html

10 years in prison for streaming? It's in the Covid-19 relief bill.  :o
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/tech/illegal-streaming-felony-covid-relief-bill/index.html

Pentagon anxiety rises.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/pentagon-anxiety-trump-final-days/index.html

Trump threatens 30 day reign of destruction.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/donald-trump-white-house-countdown/index.html

This is one of the stupidest executive orders Trump has issued.  :o Your tax dollars at work, folks. We have millions of people suffering and yet Trump wants this? Give me a break.  :P
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/politics/trump-executive-order-beautiful-architecture/index.html

This is not a drill!
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/22/michael-flynn-2020-election-trump-kth-ac360-vpx.cnn

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on December 22, 2020, 08:07:03 pm
People got to spend the stimulus....no saving it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 22, 2020, 10:31:06 pm
What's in the Covid relief bill?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/politics/second-covid-stimulus-package-details/index.html

Trump threatens to veto Covid relief bill.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/trump-coronavirus-relief-bill/index.html

Trump pardons more of his friends.  >:(
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/trump-pardons/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/05/politics/trump-pardons-commutations-list/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 23, 2020, 04:15:54 am
OH NO! This can't be happening. What's next? People searching for the truth?  First Fox news is now telling the truth about the election. But that's ok. Most of the people that watch fox news are so brainwashed they will believe both Ex president Trump won the election AND he lost. And now? Pat Robertson , who still will not admit that Trump has ever lied, says 'Trump is living in an alternate reality". Pat Robertson is the fox news network of Christianity. He slings out lies and propaganda just as fast. He's as Christian as Dr Phil is a real doctor.

OH NO! Everyone is turning on Ex president Trump. What will he do next? Hopefully something that lands him in prison.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 23, 2020, 12:43:16 pm
Trump threatens to veto Covid relief bill and asks that more money be given to Americans.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/donald-trump-covid-relief-capitol-hill/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/trump-coronavirus-relief-bill/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/economy/stimulus-checks-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 23, 2020, 01:25:38 pm

Yes, I have a hunch the far right media is being turned upside down and wrong
side out with Trump's unpredictability. If it wasn't so serious, I would laugh. I
hope it has his cult hanging upside down as well.

In the U S infections are over 18.2 million and over 322,000 deaths.

leave it to Trump to stir up trouble. After doing nothing to encourage  Moscow Mitch
to pass a relief bill, last night he decided to  jump in with both feet, and refuse to sign
claiming 600 dollars wasn't enough, and said he wanted 2000 dollars instead. Also to
take out funding for Museums, and environmental work.  The speaker of the house said
okay, lets do it. So let's see what happens in the senate.

If this stalls in the senate, Nothing may get done till next year. Putting millions more
people at risk. This bill had money for covid19 vaccines as well. So more people could
die because of Trump.

2000 dollars would help a lot of people, but I really don't think Trump did this to help
people, if anything it's aimed at gaining public support in hope it will force congress 
to flip the election results so he can remain president. Trump is likely scared, because
once Biden is president, Trump will be subject to prosecution by New York state, no
matter what he tries with his pardon power.

Speaking of pardons, Trump pardoned 20 people last night, people ranging from
white collar crimes to murder. All apparently because he felt he owed it to them. It
doesn't matter that his use of the pardon is wrong to Trump. To him it's a way to pay
people for loyalty. Just the way a mob boss would.

There would be nothing to keep Trump from emptying a prison full of murderers if he
wanted. It's not likely, if anything Trump is seeing that many on death row in federal
prisons are being executed. More in the last 6 months than in the past 30 years by
previous presidents.

Seems odd, considering the GOP's pro life  stand against abortion, claiming they are
wanting to save lives not take them. Of course many in the GOP are hypocritical and
would be happy to support both. The bad thing is a fair number of people on death row
are innocent, and several have been found so. This is why appeals  are often granted,
to give the  innocent a chance to prove it.

Trump's lack of respect for laws, and justice is wrecking respect by citizens for laws
in general. Some are thinking, all you need is a friend in high places,and you can get
by with anything. This has been the case in the past, but not so much by a president.
Many people look up to a president, so a corrupt man like Trump is very destructive
when it comes to public respect for law and order.

I hope Democrats do gain control of the senate, so they can make it difficult, if not
impossible for another corrupt president to be able to disregard laws, or the 
constitution. Somehow I doubt the GOP would want to impose limits on a president
similar to Trump, especially if he was a republican.

President elect Biden has assembled a cabinet that closely mirrors the population
and it's diversity. This is another reason the senate needs to be in Democratic control
so president elect Biden's nominations can be quickly approved. He could do like
Trump and make them acting, but he wants his picks approved so they can do a
proper job without limitations.

Unlike Trump, president elect Biden has picked people who are qualified, not people
who just want the prestige and the power associated with the job as Trump did.  Trump
 claimed he wanted to remove corruption, instead he created the most corrupt
administration in history. While the GOP did little or nothing to prevent it.

The quicker we get rid of Trump the better. and I hope he spends his remaining years  in prison,
along with family that deserve it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 23, 2020, 02:39:39 pm
Let the law suits begin!

Voting machine company executive sues Trump allies for defamation
CNN Digital Expansion 2018 Veronica Stracqualursi


https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/dominion-voting-executive-defamation-lawsuit/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/dominion-voting-executive-defamation-lawsuit/index.html)

Gotta go gets me some more popcorn.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 23, 2020, 09:13:57 pm
Trump just pardoned another 26 people.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-pardons-stone-manafort-kushner/index.html

Trump vetoes massive defense bill.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/23/politics/trump-ndaa-veto/index.html

In other news........

Trump has said he is against the massive covid relief bill and wants to see Americans get more money.......possibly as much as $2,000. A major increase from the $600 stimulus checks being floated in Congress. This is probably one of the few times.......and I do mean "few"......where I would have to agree with Trump. But I highly doubt that monetary increase will pass approval in Congress. $600 right now just won't cut it for millions of Americans who are suffering. I would be fine with anything between $1000 and $1500. But anything lower than $1000 just doesn't go that far when buying groceries, paying rent, paying utility bills, etc.
It will be interesting to see how Congress reacts to what Trump wants in the next few days and/or weeks.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 24, 2020, 11:48:37 am
House GOP refuses to pass $2000 increase.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/politics/house-vote-stimulus-checks-government/index.html
I knew it wouldn't pass. It was doomed to fail from the start.

I almost tend to think the real reason Trump wanted to push for a higher $2000 amount was to appease his supporters and Republican voters down in Georgia. If the $2000 amount would have passed, Republicans and Trump would have used it as leverage in some way during the Georgia Senate election runoff and gain more support/voters.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 24, 2020, 01:00:39 pm

In the U S infections are over 18.5 million and  over 327,000 deaths. Deaths are
predicted to soar to well over 430,000 by the middle of January.

This is Trump's last Christmas in office, and so far he has pardoned over 50 of his
loyal cronies. Who can say what the total will be, but he says he will pardon himself
as well. The constitution doesn't directly allow this, but Trump is sure to try. Then
under a Biden administration Trump could be indicted, where Trump would claim a
pardon. Then it would likely be litigated all the way to the supreme court. A court
that just might allow the pardon to stand. The problem with a self pardon, means a
president could break any federal law and get by with it.

Trump apparently believes president elect Biden will be president on January 20,
otherwise he wouldn't be giving pardons that could be damaging to his public support.
Also if he fails to sign the relief bill before a new congress is seated, the bill will have to
be passed all over again. He could be planning to use the pocket veto which would
prevent congress from over riding the veto since it would last till it was too late to
do so.  In case anyone is wondering a pocket veto is where a president leaves a bill
unsigned,or vetoed. In 10 days, not counting Sundays the bill is returned to
congress,as vetoed. In this case by the time it's returned, a new congress would be in
place,and the bill is defunct, since bills cannot be carried over to a new congress.

The question is, will the GOP continue to support their crazy president, or will they
be willing to over ride his veto of a defense bill that is needed for national security? Or
are they still to scared to oppose a lame duck president who should be locked up
instead of being in the White House.

If the relief bill is allowed to die, All of it's provisions die with it. Unemployment funds
will stop. People will be kicked out of their homes, No checks of 600 dollars for the
people. and many other things. Also the budget for the Government is attached,
to this bill, and we could end up with a government shutdown that could last till after
president elect Biden takes office.

All of Trump's pardons won't keep these people from being required to testify against
Trump, or his cronies. This is because they can no longer use the 5th amendment as
an excuse to keep quiet. Also accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt, otherwise
one wouldn't need the pardon in the first place.

If the VP, GOP and Trump's cabinet cared about the nation, they would invoke the 25th
amendment of the constitution, and remove Trump from office. Then the VP could
take over and properly finish Trump's administration for the good of the country, and
the republican party. Yes, Trump and his supporters would throw a fit, but sometimes
government  leaders should do what is right, even if the public doesn't like it. 

Don't hold your breath, because I don't think they have the guts to do it.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 24, 2020, 01:41:10 pm
Here's what happens if Trump doesn't sign the $900 billion relief bill.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/politics/covid-relief-bill-programs-expiring/index.html

And more news.......
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/politics/congress-trump-confrontation/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/politics/second-stimulus-check-status/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 25, 2020, 12:42:53 pm

I hope Furtopia members are having a fine Christmas day. Even though many
around the world have suffered losses due to the pandemic. I pray that the new
year brings a much brighter world to us all.

If Trump was to use the pocket veto to keep the government shut down, telling
congress he will keep the government shut down till January 20 unless they vote to
undo the  election. Would congress do their job and declare president elect Biden the
winner, or  try to undo the election to please Trump?  There are no reports to  indicate
anything like this that I have heard of, but it is certainly possible. Because congress
must  declare the elector vote to be correct, and would be Trump's last chance to hold
on to the  presidency.

However something must be done, or the government shuts down this Monday  night.
Then we shall see what happens. If Trump fails to sign the relief bill which includes
the government budget. Congress will have to pass a separate budget for Trump to
sign or veto. Then we shall see if Trump is up to no good or not.

A car bomb exploded in Nashville Tennessee this morning. Fortunately injury's were
few due to the  time of day, and police quick action to clear the area. Some how they
realized there  was a danger prior  to the bomb going off.  Was this a warning by radical
supporters of Trump? Only time  will tell.

Best wishes to all during this holiday season.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 25, 2020, 08:45:03 pm
Let the reality show begin. This is when the truth strikes back.

Dominion Voting Systems CEO doesn't rule out legal action against Trump

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/politics/dominion-ceo-trump-legal-action-cnntv/index.html

This is turning out to be a really good holiday season for all of us. Well except the far right media, all the far right media's experts and political guests, and Ex president Trump. I'm guessing when he was told to not destroy or alter any documents pertaining to the election he panicked. All he has is the real election results. And noting to back his claims.

Old Rabbit. Ex president Trump does not have the power or any authority to change the election. Even if he decided to shut the government down President Biden will still take office on the 20th. The part congress plays is just a formal thing. It's like a sports caster declaring one teem won after we've all seen the score.  Please don't jump to any idea about what happened in Nashville. Wait till all the dots and lines are made. Then we will all know the truth. There has been enough fake news and lies out there. Better to be patient.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 26, 2020, 02:01:26 pm

I tend to go a bit overboer don some things  Mr Rat.
But he can use the pocket veto to cause trouble as he
leaves office.

Unemployment  government help has will end today,,  and if Trump continue to sit and refuse
to sign the relief bill government will shut down on Monday, and aid for renters by the end  of
the year.

Sadly Racism by those in law enforcement showed it's ugly head in 2020.            Unfortunately racism
isn't new, and the GOP did little to put an end to it. Trump claims
he isn't racist, but it's just another of his many lies. Instead of
working to stop racism by
the police, Trump and the GOP claimed the Democrats wanted
to get rid of the police
as a campaign issue. This
of course was a lie, but the GOP
will lie anytime they think
it will get votes. They know
racism is a deep seated problem,
and are happy to use it
when it gets them votes. Just as
they do with homosexuality and abortion.

People of color really need to work hard, if they
want to make any real change in
government. Because the far right is
determined to keep power for white
Americans,.
and return people of color to the
days where they had a harder
time to even vote, or
have decent education. Racist
people have been convinced
that people of color are
by nature to be ignorant
and dangerous. Nothing
could be farther from the truth.
Skin color has nothing to do
with a persons intelligence. Or
how they treat other people
is due to how they have been
treated them selves. Under
decent conditions they are
no different than anyone else,
Even better than many whites.

Covid19 continues across
the nation. Vaccine injections
are increasing, mostly for
first responders and medical
workers. Soon vulnerable
people like the elderly
in
long
term care will receive
vaccinations. Also those
who make deliveries   
and food
handlers will get them.
It's unfortunate , but
those in jails and
prisons  need
to be vaccinated too, but I am afraid many will complain if they are given  any  kind of
priority, even though they need it. After all over 1700 have died due to covid19. 
I would rather they get vaccinated than allowed out of prison where some will return
to  crime.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 26, 2020, 06:30:27 pm
I'm not sure how I feel about the covid relief bill situation right now. Will Trump sign it or won't he? Knowing him, I wouldn't be surprised if he waited till the very last minute before midnight and signed it at 11:59pm Eastern Time before everything expires at midnight.

Trump is keeping Americans on pins and needles. And if he doesn't sign, well, that's him saying "Screw you, America! You didn't vote for me for a second term as President. So why should I help you now?"

Trump only has about 3 1/2 weeks left as President till Joe Biden is sworn in. I guess Trump feels he can just coast along till he's out of office and not do anything important.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/politics/unemployment-benefits-stimulus-relief-bill/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/politics/biden-trump-covid-relief-bill/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/politics/second-stimulus-check-status/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/politics/donald-trump-stimulus-unemployment-benefits/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 27, 2020, 10:34:06 am
I tried to hold out some hope that Trump might sign the Covid relief bill last night, but..........he didn't.  :(
In short, Trump just gave the "middle finger" to both Congress and the American people.  >:(

So, no more unemployment benefits for Americans.
Potential government shutdown on Monday.
And no rental assistance either.

 :'(  :'(  :'(

Like I said, Trump is not just burning bridges on his way out. He is also setting a scorched earth policy and destroying whatever he can and however he can. In his mind, let Joe Biden pick up the pieces and try to put America back together. What Trump is doing is all about settling scores. It's revenge, pure and simple because he lost the election.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/donald-trump-stimulus-bill-unemployment-benefits/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/politics/unemployment-benefits-stimulus-relief-bill/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/electoral-college-objection-bush-boxer/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/trump-2024-analysis/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/26/politics/biden-trump-covid-relief-bill/index.html

I really wish I could say how I really feel about Trump and what he did NOT do last night. But I'd be breaking Furtopia rules, so I'll leave it to people's imaginations instead. ;)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 27, 2020, 12:55:52 pm


In the U S infections are nearly 19 million, and deaths are over 331,000.
 The latest mutation of covid19 is spreading around the world. So far it hasn't been
detected in the U S, but likely will soon. At this time vaccine manufactures feel their
vaccines will work against all mutations to date.

Trumps pardons are notably for rich friends and loyal people who worked for his
benefit. Pardons were created for people who the system treated unjustly, Not for
friends and loyal people who lie and break laws for a pardon. I am sure the founders
of our nation did not create a pardon to allow people to break laws purposely. Much
less to benefit a corrupt president. We could over look most of them, but some were to
forgive brutality, and acts of murder. How can we expect the respect of other
countries when our government approves of such acts.

Trump continues his refusal to sign the relief bill. Democrats tried in the house to pass
the bill with the 2000 dollar change, but the  republicans said no, claiming the
dollar  change was just a stunt by Trump, and didn't really mean it. Unless Trump
vetoes the bill, congress can't vote to over ride it. All they could do is write a new bill,
and wait for  Trump to sign it.

By using the pocket veto Trump could stop all current legislation, and stall any for up to
10 days into the new year, and considering it will be a few days before the new
congress can act, it could stall veto over rides till the middle of January.

All this depends on Trump of course, so hang on to your hat, we still have 24 days of
Trump's craziness left.  Oh, don't expect a $2000 check, because now with a Democrat
coming to the white house, the republicans will want to be physically responsible.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 27, 2020, 05:18:07 pm
So, what happens next? Anybody wanna place any Las Vegas odds on what Trump will do?  Place your bets, folks. Place your bets.  :D

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/unemployment-benefits-coronavirus-stimulus-relief-bill-latest/index.html

1. Trump signs Covid relief bill.
2. Trump vetos Covid relief bill.
3. Trump could pocket veto the bill.
4. The House could raise the payments to $2000 before Trump takes any action.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 27, 2020, 07:45:02 pm
I'm placing my bet on

"Ex president Trump will pass the bill. Then claim responsibility and author of it. Make a big speech on how great of a president he is. But he will not continue with his fraudulent claims about the election. He will do this on Fox or another right wing network. After twittering it. And like the others he will illegally put his name on it.

I"m doubling down.
He will pocket the unemployment bill. And say nothing about it.

Millions of Americans are suffering and loosing their homes. What's Ex president Trump doing? Playing golf at his privet resort.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 27, 2020, 08:50:58 pm
Trump finally signs covid relief and gov't funding bill.
The question is, why now when he should have done it Sat. night or earlier?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/politics/trump-relief-bill-christmas-eve/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 28, 2020, 03:09:05 am
I think Trump was at his privet golf course Saturday. Actually doing his job would have interfered with his game.  >:(

Getting a bit tired of hearing people say Ex president Trump is making the republican party look bad. No folks. Trump isn't acting any different now than ha has for four year. The republican party stood by him for four years. They are the same people and political party they were four years ago.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 28, 2020, 12:57:25 pm


I agree, The GOP became the party of Trump 4 years ago, so they
just as well accept all that goes with it.

In the U S infections are over 19.1 million, and over 333,000 deaths.

Trump finally signed the relief bill last night, we can only wonder if he did it to keep the
government open, or due to arm twisting by the GOP leadership worrying over the two
GOP senators from Georgia, fearing they would lose if Trump let it run out.

Signs are those two corrupt senators may lose anyway as turn out by voters is very
high for a run off election. Yet the GOP is spending huge sums of money in hopes to
carrying the day on January 5. Their ads are filled with misleading  lies, and claims that
have no  foundation or fact. If people in Georgia want covid19 relief from Washington,
they better vote for Democrats, because those GOP senators once elected will have
little or no interest in providing aid for their state. All they and many in the GOP are
interested in  is increasing the size of  their own bank accounts, and holding on to power.

Money and power seems to be the goal of most in the GOP. Even with millions they
want more. Just like people on drugs they never have enough. They like Trump see
the poor as lazy individuals wanting to live on handouts. I am sure some are like that,
but most people want to stand on their own two feet. Sadly the disadvantaged and
those unable to work have to suffer while rich GOP congressmen turn their backs on
the needy. I am not saying all in the GOP are uncaring people, but those who lead
the party are.

When Trump ran for office, he claimed he would drain the so called swamp. I presume
he was talking about all the gimmicks designed to waste government money. Yet after
four years nearly all of these gimmicks survive. In fact Trump and his friends in the
GOP have created even more. To spend more and more billions mostly to buy votes,
and get donations from the rich. The old Pork Barrel is running over to keep politicians
in office, and  Trump is all for it.

His supporters may have been convinced by the far right otherwise, but waste by
government under the GOP and Trump is alive and well.

Trump's complaints about wasteful spending in the relief bill were approved by his
people to begin with. As usual Trump uses lies to convince his supporters that he is
against waste. In reality he never reads reports or bills he signs. People have to make
up videos, or read them to him. So all he knows is what he see's on TV or is told to
him. This is why Trump is the worst president in history, even if he didn't lie, One can't
properly run the country when all you want to do is brag, play golf, and entertain
powerful rich people.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 28, 2020, 07:25:03 pm
$600 stimulus checks to go out soon.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/28/politics/stimulus-checks-timing/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-12-28-20/h_0f7dcb9b5d5e9f6337b38d44c31cdffa

House votes to increase checks to $2000.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/28/politics/house-vote-direct-payments-2000/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/28/politics/stimulus-checks-politics-trump-mcconnell/index.html
This might pass the House, but I doubt it will pass the Senate.

House to attempt to override Trump's veto on defense bill.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/28/politics/veto-override-vote-ndaa-congress/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 29, 2020, 01:19:50 pm

Moscow Mitch isn't going to allow a vote in the senate to give the average American $2000 , we are lucky to get 600.

In the U S infections are over 19.3 million and over 334,000 deaths.

Some of those  in the Trump administration continue to deny the upcoming Biden
administration details, about national security, financial, and defense. We don't know  if
this is due to Trump, or not. We do know he wishes to give Biden similar problems he
had during his first year in office. Trump apparently doesn't want to believe he himself
caused those problems.  He blaims the Democrats even though  it was the GOP who
approved the special investigation of Russia's involvement in his campaign.

Actually Trump has done little since the election in November, but complain about his
loss. When he isn't complaining he is playing golf. This man has been the most
useless president since the founding of our nation. Yet the Republican party continues
to support him. They even fail to honor their oath of office to protect and defend the
people of this nation. It's time this party was replaced as it has lost it's independence
to legislate or even follow the constitution.

The Georgia run off election is likely to be close. Even with a heavy early turn out by
Democrats. GOP voters will likely come out in big  numbers on election day. The
question is, just how big will that vote be? Trump has convinced many GOP voters
his election was rigged against him, so many may feel there vote may not count, and
not take the time to vote.

If the GOP continue to hold the Senate, it's likely racial issues won't go anywhere.
Those who have been led to follow the far right, need to understand people of color
have rights equal to their own. Hopefully demonstrations by people of color will   
continue to be peaceful. Perhaps with Biden in the White House we will have a justice
department who will go after radicals who wish to turn the public against people of color.

Many people are wondering why so few have received a vaccination for covid19 so
far. There are over 11 million vaccines available, but just over 2 million have received
a vaccination. The Trump administration claimed 20 million would received 
vaccinations by the end of the year. A goal that is no where near complete.

Fortunately those in long term care facilities are starting to receive vaccinations
now. This is good as many have spent the last several months away from family and
friends.  The psychological stress has been tough, and led to the deaths of many.

Hopefully when the Biden administration takes office, there will be a national program
to see to the distribution and vaccination of the people. Not like the Trump
administration who have turned it over to the states, who in many cases don't have
the money or experience to do a proper job.

Investigations continue on the suicide bombing in Nashville. Early reports indicated
the bomber may have done it due to ideology, but now they claim they just don't know.
Makes one wonder if there is a cover up, because it's a rare individual who has no
opinion or feelings about social or political issues, and anyone who is willing to
kill them selves, surely had a reason, a strong one at that.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 30, 2020, 01:50:36 am
Call me a bad person, I don't care.

Another republican congressman dies of Covid.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/luke-letlow-died-covid/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/luke-letlow-died-covid/index.html)

There needs to be more of this. After all their miss information and downplaying this virus I wouldn't mind seeing a lot more republicans die. God knows they've helped kill of plenty of Americans.  Right now 1 out of every 1000 of us have died. We are nothing but cattle to them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 30, 2020, 10:28:30 am
Call me a bad person, I don't care.

Another republican congressman dies of Covid.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/luke-letlow-died-covid/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/luke-letlow-died-covid/index.html)

There needs to be more of this. After all their miss information and downplaying this virus I wouldn't mind seeing a lot more republicans die. God knows they've helped kill of plenty of Americans.  Right now 1 out of every 1000 of us have died. We are nothing but cattle to them.

I don't like Republicans as much as the next person, but I totally disagree with your "outlook" on the situation.  >:(

In other news.........

Don't expect $2,000 checks. That plan is dead. :(
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/senate-vote-2000-checks-limbo/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics/mcconnell-poison-pill-attached-to-bill/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/trump-republicans-choice/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 30, 2020, 12:55:21 pm
Trump wants U.S. Supreme Court to take up Wisconsin case.
https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/trump-asks-u-s-supreme-court-to-take-wisconsin-case

U.S. Congressman contests electoral votes.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/josh-hawley-force-votes-electoral-college-results/index.html

$600 stimulus payments are on the way. Faster than you might expect.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/treasury-second-round-stimulus-payments/index.html

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 30, 2020, 01:25:41 pm


I understand the death of a republican from the virus seems to be deserved, but it's the fault of voters, not so
much  a member of the GOP for deaths across the country. Until people realize how bad many in the GOP are,
nothing much will change. Even if a lot of them die from covid19.

In the U S infections are over 19.5 million and over 338,000 deaths.

It seems our police has been trained to shoot first and ask questions later. Yes to do
otherwise can get policemen killed, but how big is the risk? Those wanting to be in
law enforcement must realize they may have to chance being shot even if they think
someone has a gun. The assumption someone is about to shoot them puts the public
at risk, and the police is supposed to protect the innocent, not kill them.

Hopefully the Biden administration can work to make law enforcement more accountable,
as is many policemen see a greater risk by not shooting than doing so. This needs to 
change, or innocent people will continue to die at the hands of the
police. People of color need to see the police as a friend not someone ready to kill
them if they move.

The GOP chase for votes has caused them to pass open carry laws across the
nation. This just makes law enforcement even more dangerous. I personally think, people
should be licensed to carry a weapon. To show mental stability and the responsible
use of a firearm. Allowing anyone to carry firearms makes everyone a possible  risk to a
law enforcement officer. So it's no wonder why they want to  shoot first if they think
someone has, or may be reaching for a gun.  Mix this with the perception that people
of color are dangerous and innocent people get killed.

 Hospitals in California are having to  turn ambulances away, literally having to send
people to their deaths because they don't have the room or ability to care for them.
We could see this happen across the nation if people continue to ignore warnings to
stay home and not gather with family and friends.

Yes we have vaccinations, but it will take months to vaccinate the population, and it's
possible people will have to be vaccinated more than once a year.  In the meantime
people will continue to get sick and some will die.

Moscow Mitch has offered to allow a vote for a $2000 relief if by combining 3 bills. This
is just his way to make the final bill not acceptable by many Democrats, which would
cause it to fail. The senate leader does this anytime he is backed into a corner so to
speak. He knows the 2000 dollar bill would pass if he allowed it to be voted on, since
he is against giving relief money to the public he changes the bill so it's unlikely to
pass.

Moscow Mitch is just a foul minded old millionaire who should be in a rocking chair
instead of the Senate. He must have really done a song and dance job to get re-
elected. At nearly 80 years of age he is more proof we need term limits. No one
should serve more than 2 terms in the senate, ore 6 terms in the house.

If passed the $2000 in cash would be a big boost to people in desperate need of
money, and when spent would be a great help to small businesses and cities. If
Moscow Mitch doesn't understand this, he and his GOP members need to either
retire or get a new job.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 30, 2020, 03:01:49 pm
Sorry folks. I disagree. Anyone who stands by and supports lies and misinformation deserves what they get.

Hey everyone. Lets gather round and watch as republicans try to keep Ex president Trump in office. They have absolutely no power to do so. They have absolutely no chance this will work. There is nothing in the constitution that supports this. There are no laws they can go by. By every law they have no right to even suggest this. Everything from the election on out is just pageantry and ceremony. That's it. The republican party is so far removed from reality it's not funny anymore. Why can they even suggest this? Because no one in our history ever thought people would be brazen enough to try this. We are witnessing a political party so far removed from America their historic.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 30, 2020, 04:38:21 pm
Oh, I probably agree that they do deserve what they get. I just don't agree that they should die. A lot of Republicans have been seen with Trump or at some of his activities not wearing masks or social distancing during this coronavirus pandemic. As I may have previously said in this thread, let karma do it's job. They know the risks. They should also learn to accept the consequences of their actions. So if they get sick, then fine. But dying? No, I don't wish that. They may say and do some dumb stuff. But they're just as human as the rest of us and still deserve to live.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on December 31, 2020, 04:49:13 am
Oh, I probably agree that they do deserve what they get. I just don't agree that they should die. A lot of Republicans have been seen with Trump or at some of his activities not wearing masks or social distancing during this coronavirus pandemic. As I may have previously said in this thread, let karma do it's job. They know the risks. They should also learn to accept the consequences of their actions. So if they get sick, then fine. But dying? No, I don't wish that. They may say and do some dumb stuff. But they're just as human as the rest of us and still deserve to live.

Yeah I'm pretty much with Kobuk on this one. There's plenty of people I would wish death on but those are people that I know personally. People who I am certain are irredeemable. And while I feel like many in the GOP are very likely irredeemable I can't feel okay wishing for them to die...
But if they do just so happen to die as a result of their own stupidity... Well that's on them and I can't feel bad for them. I would wish they chose a better path sure but I wish that of just about anyone who follows a moron, and I say that as someone who has followed their share of morons and wished they chose a different path.

They're just greed fueled cowards who don't know which way to jump that will profit them most. They sold their morals and I can't help but pity them for that the poor, spineless fools.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 31, 2020, 01:04:28 pm

Reports are saying the man who bombed Nashville  Christmas morning
believed we have been invaded by space lizards , who controlled the
internet and who knows what else. This and many other crazy
ideas do a lot of harm, and unfortunately  Trump has done little
to prevent their spread.  I know we have the freedom  of speech ,
but perhaps there should be limits on social media about spreading  harmful
threats that are just stupid.

In the U S infections are over 19.7 million and over 342,000 deaths.

One hospital offered to let people make appointments to get a covid19 vaccine, and
they got so many calls their phone network crashed. They were able to count up to
100,000 calls prior to the crash. So it appears letting people make appointments
isn't going to work very well.

One GOP senator from my state has the gall to claim he will vote against any
declaration by the senate that Trump lost the election. I do believe if the GOP
controlled both houses of congress, they would try a vote to steal the election from Biden,
Because of their fear of the  cult of Trump, and his tweets. As is they can't vote to 
please Trump and  his desire to wreck our democracy with his lies, and to prevent his
being hauled into court by the state of New York.

Moscow Mitch is claiming he is against the $2000 cash payment to the average
American because a lot of rich Democrats would get it as well. This was a lie as no
one making over $78,000 a year would be eligible. The GOP can give their super
rich friends big tax cuts, but say no to people that really need financial aid.

Trump is returning to the White House for some reason today. Could it be he is
planning to twist the arm of the senate leader personally? I kind of believe Moscow
Mitch won't like the idea of Trump coming to see  him, if that is really the case. After
all Trump could give him covid19. I have to admit I wouldn't mind. It's not that bad, I
caught covid19, and came through just fine. Didn't even need a doctor, so he could
too.

Well here we are at the end of a crazy year, I prey 2021 is a lot better. I am sure the
GOP will be blaming Biden for everything, but I  wish him and us all a really great
new year. Please everyone, wear a mask while out in the public if you can, don't gather
together in large  groups, and wash your  hands often. With all our help and
vaccinations perhaps this  time next year the pandemic will be a thing of the past.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on December 31, 2020, 02:33:58 pm
I will cry for the murdered. Not those who murder.

Another republican comes down with covid.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/31/politics/congresswoman-elect-maria-elvira-salazar-covid/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/31/politics/congresswoman-elect-maria-elvira-salazar-covid/index.html)

Thousands have died while republicans continued to lie. People died because of these lies. People who blatantly and knowing commit murder will get the same sympathy from me they gave to their victims.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 01, 2021, 01:40:13 pm

In the U S infections are nearly  20 million and deaths are over 345,000.

Covid19 is going wild, and hitting red states hard, so it's likely even if the GOP hangs 
on to the senate, they are going to be forced to provide relief even if Moscow Mitch
doesn't want to. Because the midterm election isn't that far away, and if Republicans
are left to suffer, both the senate and the  house could be in the hands of Democrats,
in spite of the GOP  leadership, or Trump fussing in the background.

Though the news media is making a big deal out of president elect Biden not getting
the details he should have prior to taking office. I doubt if it will keep him from making
a good start. After all he is fully experienced in the ways of government. Biden has
forgotten more than Trump will ever know when it comes to leading the country.

Trump returned to Washington DC for some unknown reason yesterday. Some are
speculating he might address a crowd on January 6, but I really doubt it. I am sure the
secret service would not want Trump to expose himself to a crowd that might have
firearms. I doubt if Trump would either. Of course he could ride in his bullet proof
limousine along crowded streets in DC.

I imagine many of us feel lucky to see the new year, or still have a home to live in. Of
course that doesn't count all those greedy multi millionaires who with the help of the
GOP and Trump, were able to increase their wealth by millions more.

Now there isn't anything wrong with being rich, or making money. Just as it isn't done
on the backs of the disadvantaged. So many times these rich people forget they
became rich more by luck than by hard work. Then they want to claim anyone can
succeed with hard work, ignoring the real way they became rich. This doesn't
count people like Trump who are born so rich,with money and resources, even
stupidity can't get rid of it all.

When Trump decided to run for president in 2015 , he never expected to win, but when
large crowds showed up at his rally's, and with primary wins, he got cough up in the
excitement, and decided to really try for it.

I am sure his lawyers advised against his run for public office due to his corrupt way of
doing business, but as those who know Trump. Once he decides to do something, no
one can change his mind. So now once he is no longer president, he will likely face
indictments due to investigations that might not have even occurred if he had never
been president.
 
We can only wonder what Trump has in mind following January 20. Reports are that
he might  have a fake Oval office in Florida, and even a fake inauguration at his resort
there. Personally I think he would be advised to leave the country while his lawyers
sort out his legal problems. Perhaps his old buddy Putin, or Saudi Arabia might give
him a place to hang out for the duration. If Trump wasn't so fat, Putin could stuff him
into a space craft and send him to the space station.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 01, 2021, 07:06:24 pm
This show is getting funnier by the day! And with so precious few left in Ex president Trump's presidency we have to enjoy them at their fullest.

Vice president Pence said no. He is not going to commit treason on behave of the republican party. Probably the first real American thing this man has done in office.

I hear there's a group of republicans who refuse to accept the fact that president elect Biden will be the next president of the United States. Oh my! Let us all sit back and watch as nothing happens. You have to think like a republican. Don't count the electoral vote. Because ex president Trump didn't win that. But there's still that pesky popular vote thing........... they can't say that was rigged....because there's a lot of law suits going around and they don't want to loose their jobs.

A dictator demands total loyalty. You will honor a dictator's dictations. If you don't you will get a dictator's wrath. Ex president Trump is showering the fallen with his wrath. How dare they! Who do they think they are? They are all meaningless without him. How can they possibly be loyal to America and not Trump. Trump is America. Trump's very word is the only truth of America! How dare republicans side with the needs of America and not the desires of Trump. Ex president dictator wana be Trump is dictating his dictations through Twitter. Lashing out at all those who have fallen from his grace. How dare they stop him from continually undermining the US armed forces.

Looks like the prom queen didn't show up to his own dance. Leaving his guests at Marry-go-round to the graces of Giuliani and Vanilla Ice. Vanilla Ice? Now there's somebody trying desperately to stay relevant. Apparently an all mask less crowd.

And a final thought. I know what it's like to be around very bad people. I know how folks like this think. Ex president Trump let out a large group of very bad people. Do you think very bad people are all singing "Ya! we're out!" Nope. Very bad people do not have short memories. Very bad people would say, "Four years hu?" "You waited four years." I like to think of them as a glade of song birds. Some of these songs should be chart worthy.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 02, 2021, 01:26:21 pm


In the U S infections are over 20 million now, and deaths have passed 350,000.

President elect Biden plans to push for a $2000  cash relief bill once taking office;.
He might  get it past Moscow Mitch giving up policies that would likely cost Democrats
support in 2022. I think Biden is smart enough to see through Moscow  Itches  tricks.
So he may have to give up on that unless the Democrats win the senate seats from
Georgia.  So both Democrats and republicans  will be pushing for a win this coming
Tuesday.

GOP members of congress continue their attempt to please Trump's voting base by
pretending they can flip the election to Trump. They know it's a done deal, but they will
do anything to please Trump and his voters. I wish people would take the time to check
the facts about people they vote for, and quit listening to politicians and their paid 
supporters. The internet has access to government congressional records, so it's not
hard to see how a member of congress votes.  That will tell you more about your 
member of congress than anything else.

 People need to understand that politicians are more likely to become  corrupt the
longer they stay in office. They learn to get re-elected is with a bit of pork to please
the voters. Lobbyists are more likely to go after a congressman or woman who has
been there a long time than a new comer. Human nature  exposes anyone to greed
and people in congress shuffle millions of dollars, so it's easy to think they could  grab
a few thousand here or there without notice.   Though many members are honest it's
best to not vote to keep someone in congress for many years. Being in congress
wasn't' meant to be a career move. Though many want it to be.
The best people are chosen , not those who want the job.

I think the Tea party, appeals to many people  because it appears to be a party out to
clean up government. The trouble is the party attracted radicals who are willing to use
their acquired power for their own benefit, and beliefs,  Not for the good of the country. 
Over the past decade, the GOP has used racism and fear to gain control o  the
government, and the Tea party came into being due to racist ideals. If the people
don't shut this down, it will destroy our democracy in favor of a  fascist  autocratic
government run by a dictator. Likely a benevolent one to begin with, but over time
the people will find it was a big mistake that will be very hard if not impossible to
change. Because dictators grow to benefit themselves, not the people they rule.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 03, 2021, 12:52:18 pm

In the U S infections are over 20 million, and deaths are over 350,000.

Trump continues to put fear in the hearts of many in the GOP. Telling them not to vote
to declare Joe Biden and Harris winners on January 6. Claiming they will never see
re-election if they do. This is nothing, but a fools dream by Trump, apparently  wanting
to keep his cult of supporters behind him, and for those GOP members that support him.  If
 anything, by trying to save himself Trump is likely going to destroy the GOP's
credibility, and  possibly their electibility over time.

I still find it strange that people who hate government rules and regulations want to
support a autocratic style of government that Trump represents. Just as those who
push changes that represent more freedom for the masses. This is a fools dream that
is meant to give the rich elite, and powerful, full control over the masses. Just as it
does in Russia, and China.

These people need to understand that only a representative form of government will 
give them the freedom they want. These  people who are pushing for an autocracy just
want power, and the riches it will give them.  This is why they are working so hard to
mislead Trump's cult of believers. Once they gain control, and put their people in
positions of power, the people will find they have no rights at all. This is why freedom
loving people must vote for a party that supports law and order, not one grasping for
power, as the GOP, and Tea party has over the  last decade.

 They claim the Democrats want a socialist form of  government, one that is out to
take your money and property, and give it to the elite. These lies are designed to
scare people into voting against Democrats who only wish to make the country better
for everyone. Not just for the rich and powerful as the GOP, and Tea party  do.

It is unfortunate, but the GOP, and Tea party both  see the people of color as their
opponents because they don't support their racist  policies. Just as it was over 100. 
years ago when  the K K K marched in the streets wanting to show white power, and
deny people of color their rights under the constitution. We must stand strong or the
democracy so many have died for may be lost if the radicals of the far right prevail.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 03, 2021, 05:29:27 pm
Trump and his cronies have sunk to a new low.  :o  >:(
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/donald-trump-brad-raffensperger-call-washington-post/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html
The full transcript of the conversation:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html

In other news........
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/georgia-election-brad-raffensperger-donald-trump/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/kevin-mccarthy-republican-push-house/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-republicans-electoral-college-new-congress-democracy/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/electoral-college-trump-loeffler-perdue/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/republican-reaction-trump-overturn-election/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/media/media-trump-coup-reliable/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/01/politics/gohmert-pence-electoral-college-lawsuit-thrown-out/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/nancy-pelosi-speaker-vote/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 03, 2021, 09:39:37 pm
FYI.
Apparently "coup attempt" is floating around as a way to describe Ex president Trump and some members of the republican party recent actions. And this is not being taken lightly. It's also been legally stated that an attempt to pardon himself is an immittance of guilt. I lived through water gate. Comparing the two water gate was a parking ticket.

It's my hope of all hopes that these folks keep going in this direction. When I said Ex president Trump had less than thirty days to do something really stupid I never dreamed he'd actually surprise me.

Toss that buttered popcorn folks. This is meat and potato time.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 04, 2021, 12:48:45 pm

In the U S infections are over 20.6 million and over 351,000 deaths.

Vaccinations for covid19 continue to be  slow across the country. Doesn't say much
for Trumps warp speed plan.  The vaccine that requires deep cold storage is likely
part of the problem. Especially in rural areas around the country. In Florida where
they opened up vaccines for all people over 65, created lines of people waiting up to
8 hours, then some to be turned away due to running out of the vaccines.

As of now, just over 4 million people have received vaccines, falling way behind
the Trump administrations promises. Of course to hear Trump it's the fault of the
states, and not him or anything he has done. The GOP haven't done much to aid
states with money or services to help. I am sure once Biden takes office, the GOP
will be pointing their dirty fingers at the Democrats, and blaming them for the
problems now, and for the rest of the year.

The cowardly behavior by GOP members of congress is disgusting. Anyone who
hasn't the courage to stand against a corrupt president has no business in government,
much less congress.  Even now after a call by said president, trying to  convince the
secretary of state of Georgia to rig the states election in his favor, these
so called members of congress continue to support a man who belongs in jail, not
the White House.

This is more proof that Trump should have been removed a year ago with his
impeachment. Of course GOP political cowards didn't have the guts to remove him.
In hope of keeping their senate seats, they turned against the country by not removing
the most corrupt president in our nations history.

Every new GOP congressman or woman who agrees with Trumps claim of voter fraud
should subject their own election to see if their election was fraudulent. After all if
Trump lost by fraud, they may have won the same way. Yet they seem to think their
election was honest and true. Even those new members from states Trump claimed
he lost due to fraud.

Even after this likely illegal call by Trump, GOP members of congress continue
their support of Trump, and plan to not support the win of president elect Biden on
January 6.  These cowards should be censured along with president Trump for  their
unpatriotic and unconstitutional acts.

Trump continues to destroy the value of the Medal of Freedom by giving it to 
people who not only are undeserving, they are unpatriotic with their support of a
corrupt president.  The Medal of Freedom wasn't meant to reward the support of a
bad president, but for extraordinary service to the country by a civilian. 

It's downright amazing to  hear Trump tell lies. It's no wonder why many people fall
for his nonsense, because his lies sound so natural, with no indication of not being
honest. I wouldn't be surprised if he could pass a lie detector test cold turkey. 
Hearing him on that call, you would think he actually believes everything he said.
If he really does, he is a fool, and has no business being president, ever again.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 04, 2021, 02:05:33 pm
Today's headlines:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-calls-georgia/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-georgia-election-joe-biden-congress/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/josh-hawley-electoral-college-count-congress/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/what-matters-january-3/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 04, 2021, 02:43:43 pm
For those who want to know if they'll get a second $600 economic impact payment, you can check here.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/treasury-and-irs-begin-delivering-second-round-of-economic-impact-payments-to-millions-of-americans
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 05, 2021, 03:35:18 pm

Trump wasn't very smart to call a state that allows the recording of a phone call with
the permission of just the person he called. Also the GOP governor can't arbitrarily  pardon 
Trump for a state crime. So Trump could be looking at a criminal conviction in
the state of Georgia once he leaves office.  All due to his attempt to coerce the
state secretary of state into committing a state crime of election fraud.

We can only wonder how many other state officials he may have called trying to
change vote numbers to give him a win in their state. He would have needed to
change election results in at least 3 states to flip the election. I am not  sure it would
even be legal now after the electoral vote.  Once congress approves the vote by
state electors, Trump is done, and I don't think the GOP has the  votes to stop a final
vote to declare his loss. As of now there are 13 senate GOP cowards planning to upset
the elector count, and I am sure Trump is browbeating others with the hope to save
his presidency.

Trump continues his hope to flip the election. You could hear it in his phone call. He
expects everyone to accept his word as fact. Not just those who come to this rally's,
but everyone. Including all members of the GOP. If they don't, he threatens to ruin
any chance of their re-election.

Even though Trump wants to ignore  Democrats, or anyone who fails to  support him,
GOP members need to remember they need independent voters to win most elections,
and they may not look at them with favor after attempting to flip a presidential  election.
Also they should remember Trump's voting base hasn't shown much support to
other politicians, even when Trump campaigns for them.  Their support seems to be closely  tied to Trump, and not so much for others in the GOP. Even when Trump
wants them to vote for someone he supports.

Can you imagine how those in the GOP would be reacting if the Democrats tried to do what Trump is trying to do. Why they would be having a fit. This is the problem  with Democrats. They sit back   hoping the rules will work while the GOP cries and cheats each time  the  Democrats  gain an advantage.  The Democrats should stand up and
fight back just as the GOP does.

I have a hunch the 2022 election will tell how much power Trump has left. If the GOP
does poorly, Trump will likely loose any control he might have left over the GOP.   Of
course that depends, Trump just might be sitting in a fancy prison cell by then.
 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 06, 2021, 09:51:31 am
It's going to be a crazy day in politics today, folks.  :o Today is when Congress counts all the electoral votes and Biden becomes President. It's also today when we find out the official results from the Georgia Senate election. So get that popcorn ready. It's going to be a wild ride.  :D

Here are some links to start. More will probably follow later during the day.

Electoral/Presidency news:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/donald-trump-mike-pence-congress/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/congress-electoral-college-vote-count-2021/h_1c99b7968aff9942ce9a4f80e6e2a17e
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/pro-trump-supporters-dc-protest/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/congress-state-of-play-electoral-college-certification/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/opinions/congress-trump-supporters-counting-electors-ginsberg/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-congress-election/index.html

Georgia Senate election news:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/politics/loeffler-ossoff-perdue-warnock-runoff-results/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/georgia-senate-runoff-election-results/h_27722165a170732a82ef3000b9aba342
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/politics/georgia-senate-runoff-elections/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/state/georgia
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 06, 2021, 01:04:11 pm

In the U S infections are over 21 million and over 357,000 deaths.

We have two more weeks to deal with Trump's craziness. Still having the power of
the presidency, he could do a lot of harm on his way out. He continues seemingly to
think his election was stolen from him, and of course Americans, if you believe his
lies. It's unfortunate, but many do believe him. This will only harm the country, and
do  nothing to help Trump or his supporters. I think the best thing that will convince
Trump voters is to disprove Trump's lies along with the conspiracy  theories  he
claims are true.

Could it be the GOP actually lost control of the senate? Even if they have, there isn't
any guarantee we will see very many progressive laws enacted. Quite a few
Democrat senators will be up for re--election in 2022, so they may be hesitant to vote
for progressive laws that are unpopular with most Americans.

I would say once the pandemic has been dealt with, infrastructure improvement should
be started. This would create millions of good paying jobs which would make
Democrats look good to most Americans. Since it takes 60 votes to deal with some
objections, the GOP will likely try to stop passage of laws that would help Democrats,
and go against wishes of big business. So once Biden takes office, he will have his
work cut out for him, to convince GOP senators to support his policies.  We can be sure
Trump will be tweeting and on conservative media trying to make it harder for the
Biden administration to get work done.

It appears our nations capital is going to be subjected to possibly violent 
demonstrations by Trump supporters. Not by the average American, but people
who think violence will solve every thinng. Sadly Trump has done little to stop these
far right white supremacists from trying to  disrupt our government for his benefit. 
Hopefully with the help of the police and the national guard these people will be 
prevented from causing damage and harm to others.

Trump is blaming GOP politicians for their loss, because  there is no way it could be
his fault. Like I have said, Trump is loyal to no one, but himself. If anyone decides
to stop their support of him, He will turn against them, no matter how much they
helped  him in the past. So when the Vice president counts the electoral votes,
Trump and his supporters expect him to declare Trump the winner, not Biden.  This
would just make the VP out to be a fool by choosing to ignore the constitution in this
way. Because it would not change anything since he hasn't the power to do anything
but count the votes.  Despite this Trump and his  supporters will turn against him 
unless he follows their wishes.

So it will be of some interest to see how all this works out.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 06, 2021, 04:44:31 pm
By all of grace I both cannot believe it and I'm shocked that the maga cult broke into the capitol building...
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 06, 2021, 08:59:05 pm
Words can't even begin to describe what I've been seeing on the news the last few hours. I am in shock and I am pissed.  :o :o  :goldpissed:
I can't believe I'm living through this spectacle. I never would have believed it could happen in America. But it has. Trump supporters and rioters storming the U.S. Capitol building in protest of the electoral college voting being taken by Congress.
But what disgusts me more is Trump's complete and utter lack of "judgement" in condemming these insane acts of lawlessness.  >:(
Twitter has suspended Trump's account for 12 hours, and may even ban it. Lot of good that'll do. Trump will just go someplace else to spew his rhetoric.
There's even talk of the D.C. attorney general who wants to invoke the 25th Amendment to have Trump removed. And at least one Democrat is again attempting to write up articles of impeachment again.
If I were a D.C. police officer or a National Guardsman and I had the opportunity/chance to use my firearm to protect Congress, the Capitol building, etc. from those lawless rioters, I wouldn't hesitate to put them down where they stand........permanently.  :goldbloody:
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 06, 2021, 10:37:32 pm
There are way too many news links to list and too much news to talk about concerning today's Washington D.C. riots and storming of the Capitol building. If I listed and talked about everything, it might end up looking like a novel instead of a post.  :D
But here's a few sample links that are worth reading:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/what-matters-january-6/index.html

Tracking the electoral college votes being counted by Congress.
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/01/politics/electoral-vote-count-congress-tracker/?iid=politics_electoral_college_bop
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 07, 2021, 05:35:29 am
You have no idea  how happy I am about what happened in DC. Not only the riot but how Ex president Trump handled it. It's now my greatest of hopes that right wing media outlets speak highly of these events. And I really REALLY hope Trump talks favorably about all of this as well. The murders ( republican party ) are scrambling to try to make themselves look good. Condemning the actions of a man they praised for all this anti American actions just a day ago. Both Trump and these members of the republican party can now be charged as enemy combatants. Fox news networks executives can now be charged as enemy combatants. Every "expert" Fox news network has had who said any lie about this election can now be charged as enemy combatants. Any republican who has spread lies about this election can now be charges as enemy combatants. And yes. Trump can now be charges as an enemy combatant against the United States of America. He refused to protect the United States Government.

You have no idea how happy I am.

It's cake and ice cream time.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 07, 2021, 10:10:33 am
If I had to pen a letter to Donald Trump and/or his supporters, it might go something like this:

You lost. Get over it. Stop acting like an infantile immature crybaby and dry those eyes. Grow up and start acting like a human being for once in your life. Biden has been affirmed as the next U.S. President. THAT IS A FACT!


I am still in shock of everything that happened yesterday. I would like to see Trump removed from office before his term is finished, but I don't know if that will happen. And if it did, it may inevitably make the situation worse and give his supporters more reason to create more chaos. Trump only has 13 more days to go. What will he do? Going to be an interesting next two weeks.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 07, 2021, 12:25:45 pm
Facebook bans Trump from posting for the remainder of his term.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/tech/facebook-trump-restrictions/index.html

What the 25th Amendment means and whether it might be used to remove Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/07/25th-amendment-explainer-laura-coates-john-harwood-nr-sot-vpx.cnn
https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xxv

For anybody who thinks the death of that woman rioter was unjustified in the Capitol building yesterday, you'd be wrong. Capitol police and Secret Service, as well as any other Federal law enforcement agencies, will use any and all necessary means, including the use of deadly force, to protect Congressional leaders, the Capitol building, and other people and property as necessary.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/capitol-mob-deaths/index.html

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And for those rioters who were really dumb enough to enter the Capitol with their faces exposed..........say Cheese! You're now on camera and on the FBI's list!  :D :D :D

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 07, 2021, 01:04:26 pm


The people in this mob are lucky they live in the U S A, ore they would have been cut down like animals.  Very few
nations would have allowed a mob to force their way into a government  building as we did.


I must admit I didn't expect a mob incited by Trump to break into the capital building.
I was disappointed to see the capital police basically standing by, and mainly just
working to protect people and little else. They had plenty of warning that a large mob
of Trump supporters could approach the capital. So they should have had plans in
place to deal with a mob of thousands. I really don't blaim a limited number of
capital police for not confronting the mob with violence, as this could have made
things worse, but the appearance of being friendly with many of these people was bad.
It's likely public leaders told the police to use minimum control with plans to arrest
those doing actual damage later.

I think they should have treated this mob just as they would have if the mob had been
people of color. Because it gives the appearance white people get special  treatment. As is
one got the feeling the police was partly complicit. Perhaps even in  agreement with
many of those in the mob.

It appears the leadership is going to provide an overwhelming force along with a
fence to keep this from happening again. As usual leadership waits to deal with a
issue instead of making proper plans ahead of time.  I got the impression that the
police didn't have proper leadership, or planning to deal with this kind of  situation.
Leading to a disorganized response.

Several of the people in the mob were interviewed, and said they would return again,
and with weapons next time. I would hope for them, and public safety this doesn't
happen. It would just get a lot of people hurt or killed. 

The GOP is mostly to blaim as they should never had allowed Trump to run for
president as a member of the republican party. Prior to the GOP primaries they were
running him down, and calling him a danger to the country. Yet instead of not allowing
him to join their party, they decided to use him to gain the White House. Now the
GOP has lost control and should deal with this man, by removing him from power
before he can do further damage to our government or the country. I fear these political
cowards will stammer about fearing Trump's supporters till they are forced to deal
with a man who has lost his mind. We can only hope he doesn't start something we
can't stop in the meantime.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 07, 2021, 01:34:01 pm
The one thing that bothers me the most about this. Turning this into a race game. There is no reason for this. The truth. The way the riot for Black Lives Matter was held was the correct way. It was never about race. There is a responsibility to protect the government. The guards were set up non threatening. None confrontational. To make the statement "if the pro Trump rioters were black the National guard would have been there" is absolutely irresponsible. It also takes away the true horror of what happened. Trump refused to protect the capital.  The proper thing was done for the Black Lives Matter riot. When it was about Trump, Trump let the rioters in.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on January 07, 2021, 03:30:21 pm
I am about to vent a little.

So people are dragging race into this all now?! Just to make this worse? 4 people are dead. Does color matter? No.
Black lives matter? YES.  So do all of the lives!

What happened was wrong regardless of color.  People had warning (police etc), people had job duties (police and president etc), people should have known wrong from right (adult protesters).  No race required.  Just people.  People being stupid. 

Trump encouraged people to "protest" (which is okay), but did not act to calm or control when riots happened (not okay). He knew he didn't have to.  He probably suspected those individual protestors were people who could succumb to fervor and riotous behavior.  Aka people who are not mature and rational.  He probably knew they would turn violent (part of being immature and irrational).  But because we can't read minds, and can't prove this suspected motive, we can't hold him accountable.  But I do believe a rational caring person , would feel some responsibility and would quell the violence, even if they did not start it.

The cause the people were protesting against seems to be stained and possibly damaged due to their own handling of the issue.  To desecrate that place, to possibly damage statuary hall! WHAT!?

They will now be seen as irresponsible lunatics or something because of how this unfolded.  Just look at those pics!  What in God's name are they representing?  A man with horns and fur?  He does not represent me.  What is the message?  These people are flatly stupid based upon this representation of themselves.  What fools!

If they wanted the cause to be investigated more and taken more seriously, they should have acted in a better way. like Black Lives Matter, or MANY OTHER CAUSES through out our nations history.  Like women getting right to vote, stopping nuclear weapons production, or even cleaning up the major rivers from pollution , or trying to protest to recover POWs, or protest higher wages.  So how many of those example worked... ;-)  Some causes and associated protests fail.  But in America you always have opportunities for peaceful change.

Besides this was a ceremony, almost a going through the motions thing, and the president elect was already decided. 
Courts had already overturned many alleged reports of fraud in the voting system etc.  The protestors turned riotous mob, had no ability to change the vote unless they took hostages, which it can be suggested was the real motive of those mobsters.  And if that is proven, those people have conspired to do grave harm to America and that may be punishable as treason.  There are cameras, social media posts, and we have facial recognition.  These people were flatly stupid for what they did.  They didn't even cover their faces!  Fools.  Prosecute as many as possible!

And after the outburst at the capitol, many staunch supporters turned their backs on the man who runs this country.  When your friends all tell you , you are wrong, you should listen.  When a nation and its system tell you that as well, time to suck it up.  we have rules.

If Trump is brought up on treason or other potential crimes, he may be barred from being a presidential candidate, right?
If I were to storm my local capitol building with weapons, what crime did I commit?  What is my punishment? 
Throw the book at them all! 
That is how we operate in America.  Rules and we all have to obey them. Regardless of color, orientation, beliefs, politics.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 07, 2021, 04:08:09 pm
There's going to be a lot of discussion and blame going around the next several days about the "lack of security" around and in the Capitol. Here are some links that discuss that.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/politics/national-guard-troops-deployed-dc-capitol/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/pence-national-guard/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/opinions/whose-job-restore-order-capitol-opinion-callan/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 07, 2021, 04:19:35 pm
Black Lives Matter protests in Washington, vs. protest riots in Washington yesterday.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/police-response-black-lives-matter-protest-us-capitol/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 07, 2021, 07:11:23 pm
I didn't know I could feel this patriotically enraged about actual, genuine treason happening. It's been several hours now I still can't rightly process my feelings about seeing these.... things swarming over the Capitol and the police just letting it happen I am sickened and enraged beyond my ability to accurately and vocabulistically articulate  my feelings about it.

"I'm mad" just doesn't cover it and nor does "furious", "fed up", "enraged" and "done". To say that I'm angry with trump's cult's actions yesterday is the kind of understatement that can only be matched by saying " Gee, the universe is kinda big".
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 07, 2021, 08:03:01 pm
The more news I keep watching and reading, particuarly about the 25th Amendment and/or impeachment, the more I wonder if it's really such a good idea to use those options right now? Biden isn't very comfortable with either option and hasn't said much on either. Vice President Pence hasn't said or done much on the 25th Amendment option also. Trump only has 12-13 days left in office. I also have a gut feeling that Republicans in Congress won't support either option very much. It might just be better to let let Trump's presidency run it's course and let it finish. At least, that's the vibe I'm getting from all the stories I'm seeing.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/politics/house-democrats-impeachment-plans/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/politics/25th-amendment-cabinet-secretaries/index.html

And..........Abraham Lincoln was right.

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Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 08, 2021, 06:25:36 am
Like rats off a sinking ship. Jumping off in droves. Trumps staff is leaving faster than the revolving door he had four years ago. My favorite is the transportation sec. In her letter she says she's proud of what they were able to accomplish in the last four years. Really? What? There was a single bill passed around  that went nowhere. She's proud of doing nothing. Like any other republican. Lie.

Should Pence be charged? Yes. When Trump told Pence to commit treason he refused. But did nothing about it. Pence may not have many duties but he does have a legal obligation to the United States. He has refused to commit to that legal obligation. It's not his choice to make.

Do you all remember the last time Twitter was going to ban Trump? Then they made some really off the wall wacky story to allow him back on. Well that just happened again. Twitter banned Trump. Then turned around and said. "Trump has deleted the acquired amount of posts to be reactivated." And Trump has fallen for it again. I imagine law enforcement told Twitter to find a way to give Trump enough rope to hang himself.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 08, 2021, 12:20:43 pm

In the U S infections are over 21.5 million, and over 365,000 deaths.

Trump was on a video last night trying to act like he had no part in the attack on the
nations capital, and said those that did should be held accountable. Interesting in that
he sent them to the capital building, and lied about leading them as they went.  I would
think these attackers would feel Trump, a man who told them he was standing with
them has turned against them. They should realize now that they can't trust the man
they had supported, a man who is now shows he has no loyalty even for his
supporters.  I really don't believe anything Trump says, so people best watch
out.

It seems the far right is trying to  claim the mob that invaded the capital were members
of the far left, even though it was obviously far right supporters of president  Trump.
We must meet these lies with the unvarnished truth, because they will continue with
Trump to spread the lie that the election was stolen, and that the left, and people of
color are out to take over the country.

You would think even the GOP would have turned against Trump after he sent his
followers to the capital building where they threatened the nations congress men and
women. Yet  over 100 GOP members voted to disenfranchise millions of voters who
voted for Joe Biden, and Harris over Trump. Every one of these GOP members should
be removed, or lose their next election.  I hope they end up losing, but by the time
they run again, many voters will have forgotten, or won't even care.

Will the VP do his job, and invoke the 25th amendment of the constitution, or will he
remained cowed by Trump and his supporters? I expect the house will file to impeach
president Trump once more,  but I seriously doubt that there are 20 senators with the
guts to join with Democrats to remove a president who instigated the invasion of the
capital of the United States of America. I am not even sure the leader of the senate
will even call for a vote to remove Trump.  Many claim Trumps removal might cause
violence across the nation. Though this might happen, we should never allow threat of
violence to defy the law.

Also this attack on the capital appears to  have had inside help, and if it turns out
a member, or members of congress  were involved  they should pay the price.  In
  case they think they have strong support at home, they should think
again. The attacker who had his feet on the desk belonging  to the speaker of the
house has received threads against him by people who care about our country more
than Trump winning an election. 

Trump apparently still plans to try to pardon himself. This should not work, and if
Trump is smart he would have his VP to agree to pardon  him after he resigned just
hours prior to Biden taking office.  Of course there is the possibility that his VP might
refuse to do this. So time will tell.  Perhaps  Trump in that case would
leave the country a day or two before the end of his term.

There are still 12 days, more than enough time for Trump, a man who likely fears he
will go to prison when he is removed from office. to do great harm to the government.
Even to declare a national emergency where he could invoke marshal law to prevent his
removal from office. This would give him the power to be a virtual dictator till he
decided to resign, or at his death. It seems many of the GOP either don't think  he can
do this, or don't care. It would take support by the military, and reports are they have
no plans to support such a action by Trump. Hopefully that is true, because Trump
just might try anyway.

Personally I think president elect Biden should not take the oath of office in public,
unless he is behind a bullet resistant barrier, because there could be a sniper
planning to assassinate him as he stands in full view. Trump followers have already
said they would return with weapons, with plans of who knows what.

Desperate people can do terrible things.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 08, 2021, 02:51:30 pm
About those $600 stimulus payments. There may be some slightly bad news. :(

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/success/irs-stimulus-payments-turbotax-wrong-accounts/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 08, 2021, 07:20:12 pm
BREAKING NEWS!

Twitter bans Trump's account..........PERMANENTLY! Hurray!  :goldlaugh: :goldlaugh:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/trump-twitter-ban/index.html

However, the bad news is that he'll just go someplace else to spew his foul mouthed rhetoric.  :( >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 08, 2021, 09:35:36 pm
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/trump-incites-anger-among-acolytes-let-down-by-lack-of-support

What a shock! The man known for being a lying huckster who throws people under the bus to save himself, just threw all of his cult followers under the bus to save himself!

........and?

https://i.imgur.com/t3JbRVj.jpg

I'm just gonna put this up as a link cause it's kinda big but worth reading.
I really hope that now, maybe these people will see. Maybe they will finally wake up and see that trump doesn't care about them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 09, 2021, 01:21:35 am
Well what do you know. Remember what i said about giving Trump some rope to hang himself with? His last tweets where hints of setting up a separate government. That my fellow furrys is called treason. That's some rope there buddy. Thank YOU Thank YOU THANK YOU to who ever in law enforcement convinced Twitter to let Trump continue to post. THANK YOU! Now let us all hope with all our hearts that Trump finds a new, welcoming platform and continues to nail his own coffin shut.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 09, 2021, 10:39:17 am
Well what do you know. Remember what i said about giving Trump some rope to hang himself with? His last tweets where hints of setting up a separate government. That my fellow furrys is called treason. That's some rope there buddy. Thank YOU Thank YOU THANK YOU to who ever in law enforcement convinced Twitter to let Trump continue to post. THANK YOU! Now let us all hope with all our hearts that Trump finds a new, welcoming platform and continues to nail his own coffin shut.

No, they weren't. His last tweets were about setting up or going to a different social media platform. Here's one of his last tweets:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/washington-dc-riots-trump-news-friday/h_9a8e6e454dec8fdb394b86269949c95c

QUOTE: "We have been negotiating with various other sites, and we will have a big announcement soon ... while we also look at the possibilities of building out our own platform in the near future. We will not be SILENCED!"

If Trump goes anywhere, it will most likely be Parler.

In other news.........I warned people earlier in this thread about my thoughts that America could potentially see a second American civil war. And my warnings went unheeded. Looks like I'm the one having the last laugh now.  :D Jan. 6th was the official start of it. And the woman who got shot in the Capitol building was the first casualty. And now the questions are: What will happen next, Where will things happen next, and How much longer will this go on? All unknowns at the moment.
But what ISN'T going away and appears to be getting louder is more calls for violence and such. If you think I'm joking, then read this. It's plainly obvious that Trump's supporters aren't giving up nor are they going away. Trump started this whole mess with his damaging tweets. How America will get out of this mess and heal is another good question.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/us/online-extremism-inauguration-capitol-invs/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 09, 2021, 01:34:24 pm

In the U S infections are over 21.8 million  and over 368,000 deaths.

Yes I am sure supporters of Trump will attempt to create a replacement for
Twitter, but  they will need money and a lot of it to setup a system that can
handle millions of users. So they will likely switch to a existing one that can
do it already. One that may quietly expand Trump's support. If his supporters
attempt another attack, we can hope they underestimate their ability and end up
losing all they may have gained.

The supporters of Trump have been convinced  that it's up to them to save our
country from leftest  socialist people of color.  Unfortunately Trump has tapped into
a basic worry by many people who feel our government has turned against them in
favor of minorities, homosexuals, and  immigrants. This concern by many people has
existed since the civil rights movements of the 1960's and 70's where people of color 
were given jobs,and acceptance to colleges over white people. While this was done
trying to undo the mistreatment of colored people since the years following the civil
war. The government failed to consider that white people would need to be educated
so they would understand it's purpose, and to give white people time to adjust.

Trump tapped into this simmering hate for his own benefit, and not for the good of the
country. Unfortunately during the 2016 election the major media did not impress on the
public at large just how dangerous Trump's plans were. Instead they ended up making
H Clinton out to be just as bad as he was. Then once Trump got the GOP nomination
the party worked hard to help Trump win, because they wanted control of the White
House. Apparently feeling they could control crazy man Trump. But wanting to keep
control of the country, They decided to give Trump their full support fearing his voters.

The GOP has lost there conservative values and are falling under the control of the
far right, because of their desire to keep their political power. Even to accept the ideals
of white supremacy to keep that power. This country is in danger if this movement
by the far right is allowed to grow. Because it's followers are being misled by people
who plan to turn this country into an oligarchy with a dictator of their choice. Then
the followers of Trump will find they have no rights at all, and by then it will be too late.

This is why until the GOP can be returned to a party who supports a middle class
they should not receive enough voter support to stay in power, or the country will be
lost to an authoritarian system of government, just like Russia, and China.

This means people who desire to keep our federal system of government must
get out and vote for people who support our democracy. Use  the internet to
educate and support the truth, and not the lies by those who wish to  enslave
the people of this country.

Even though president elect Biden is a good start, the man seems to be afraid to
bring Trump's corrupt cronies to account. These people need to understand they can't
get by with their attack on our government. Otherwise they won't stop, and will try
again and again, even to work to elect themselves if need be. Trump and his close
family should fear to stay in the country, because they will continue trying to regain
political power. I know Biden wants to bring the country back together, but these
people have to understand attacks on our government will cause them nothing but
serious trouble.  These people think they are at war with our government, so our
government needs to defend our country against them, as they would any invaders.

I have a hunch most of these supporters of Trump would fade away faced with
possible imprisonment.  Trump may give a blanket pardon to those who invaded
the capital, but if they attempt it again they will go to jail, and Trump won't be
there to pardon them a second time.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 09, 2021, 10:27:30 pm
If it really comes down to full on civil war it's gonna be even shorter than Half Life's "Seven Hours War" cause we're talking about a band of riotous militiamen who think they're badass vs the united states military.

Part of the reason why the capitol invasion went so badly was cause trump didn't call in the national guard, he allowed those people to get in there. What really counts here is that trump needs to be impeached again to take away his ability to run again in 4 years and eliminate all of his post presidency perks, all those involved with the invasion of the capitol need to be locked up, the roots of treason have grown already this needs to be pulled up from the ground like a choking weed.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on January 09, 2021, 10:48:37 pm
 I've worked in a job where I signed papers to the effect of "if you do wrong things,  you get charged with treason " and I do believe it is still punishable by death,  hanging from the neck until dead.  Let me tell you,  that is a very good deterrent for me!  And nope,  I never betrayed that  life long oath. Never will!

Yeah,  let's please charge them with treason and televise the punishment.  ;) or maybe not the last part.

I do not want a civil war,  and I bet too  many people are so hurt by covid  and its economic junk,  that they just don't want to risk ruinining what little they have left.

Yeah,  I laugh at these preppers and such extremists, regardless of "side".  Some have worked in the military,  but probably most are wannabees.   Their automatic weapon can do a lot,  but one shot from a mobile artillery, or high explosives ,  can do vastly more!!  Do not pick on the government with force and violence! If they want to change it,  they should get into law and politics! Elect who represents you,  but do not use violence.  Ok  ok... sigh.

The pen is mightier than the sword!



 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 10, 2021, 10:38:20 am
First Twitter, then Facebook, now Parler. Trump has almost nowhere to go.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/09/tech/parler-suspended-apple-app-store/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 10, 2021, 12:25:55 pm

In the U S infections are over 22.1 million, and over 372,000 deaths.

World wide over 89 million have been infected, and over 1.9 million have died.

Covid19 continues to kill, already over 4000 a day. Hopefully once the Biden
administration takes over we will see an improvement. But don't believe lies from the
GOP and Trump may wish to claim. It will  take time to offset the damage done by the
previous Trump administration.

Also many of those people who still want to believe  the lies of Trump, will refuse
to wear masks, and continue to gather in groups. These people will spread the virus
in spite of anything the new administration tries to do.

Some of the attackers are wanting to claim they just got caught up in this, but there
is plenty of evidence that many of them were out to take hostage, members of
congress, and hang them by the neck till they were dead in front of the capital
building. This was obviously planned a head of time. Because several were carrying
zip ties and had erected a gallows in front of the capital.

Acts like this cannot be forgiven. What if we had seen on TV people hung? I would like
to believe it would have been a step too far even for the followers of Trump across
the nation.  I do know many people were upset by the desecration of the capital
building it's self, and have no plans to protect these attackers from the authorities.

There are estimates that hundreds of these people will be arrested, even if it takes
months to find them. I do hope most are found, because attacks on our capital cannot
be acceptable. If people want to change our government they can run people for
office, and vote for them. Using violence to make changes will only end up destroying
the nation, and cannot be allowed.  People must accept the fact they will lose
elections. If fraud is found to be involved, then gather the  evidence and take it to
court. If you lose there then keep trying with legal means.

There is a good possibility these attackers were assisted by the capital police, and by
congress members and staff. So hopefully there will be a full investigation and
conviction of those responsible. Even if they are members of congress.

Many members of the GOP appear to be involved, and I hope these so called law
and order people end up removed from office and put in jail if the evidence shows
their involvement. The Senator from my own state was seen encouraging these
attackers, along with Texas senator Cruz. Both of these men should at the very least
ejected from the senate.

It must be found out why these attackers were treated essentially with kid gloves,
where if they had been people of color just wanting to show their discontent of not
getting equal treatment under the law. They would have been arrested by the
hundreds, and likely dozens shot down trying to enter the capital, or even trying to
climb the steps. It is long past time we put an end to treating people of color like
dangerous animals instead of human beings.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 10, 2021, 03:50:02 pm
the rope for Trump is set up and getting thicker by the day. Only one place left for him on line. A place that has no rules or restrictions. Other than state and fed guidelines. And he's Trump. The president of the United States. Those guidelines are not meant for him. He's already proven that he makes his own rules to play by. A place where everything is traceable. A place that is so easy to monitor it's like watching TV.  His very own web site. Built and protected by his very own severs and equipment. With privet phone lines and all. Let us all hope he bites.

Kobuk. Here's how your civil war will play out. Trump's statement, as you correctly stated, wasn't treason. It was to start a new political platform. The resat of this is speculation based on human nature and history. There are a number of republican law makes who will switch over to that platform.  Just for fun we'll call this new platform MAGA. Because Trump doesn't have any imagination. They will continue the lines of propaganda and to make sure they keep the fever up, add more. Because people who are angry are easy to control. That's why today's republican party is desperately holding onto what they have now. When very smart people said " Our democracy is in danger" they were not lying. Anyway this new political party will create it's own media platforms. And like any other cult they will warn people not to listen or trust anyone else (fox news network). Like a well greased factory they will pump out propaganda and fear. They will promise a new and better tomorrow.

Why this wont work. This is not the first time America has faced this. People look at the McCarthy hearings like they were a scene from a horror movie. The truth is it stopped the above from happening. At that time in our history there was a huge youth movement in our country. Indoctrinating thousands of American children into Nazi idealism. Even invoking President Washington has they're historical leader. There were politicians who switched over to the communist party. Without going into full detail it was stopped cold. Yes McCarthy was really bad at accusing anyone at the drop of the hat. And there where a lot of bad things that came out of this. But we have learned from this.

Why this new platform based on propaganda will not work. Our legal system. And before anyone goes all wacko if our legal system was broken Trump would have won all his arguments. Our legal system is well prepared for this.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 10, 2021, 09:56:41 pm
Pence as 24 hours to invoke the 25 Amendment.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/10/politics/james-clyburn-impeachment-senate-trial-biden-cnntv/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/10/politics/james-clyburn-impeachment-senate-trial-biden-cnntv/index.html)

The vice president has a duty to protect America. Thee is a wall of law suits lining up against Trump. Including domestic terrorism. If Pence does not do the right thing HE could face multiple charges.

There is talk of filing charges against politicians and media outlets who added Trump in fanning the propaganda to overturn the election as well.

There is one thing everyone should remember. The people who stormed the Capital are victims of propaganda. These are Americans acting on years of lies and propaganda by both the republican party and right wing media.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 11, 2021, 02:00:18 am
Man the terrorists are losing all their ground now. They can't fly anywhere cause they've been identified and they're all being rounded up in their homes. Cause you know, the cops and FBI would never think to look for you at your own friggen house! :D
You guys really ain't very good at this whole fugitive thing are you? I don't the cops should be able to find your secret hideout by googling your bloody name!
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on January 11, 2021, 11:24:02 am
They weren't none too good at the whole thinking thing were they?
Like I said, nobody covered faces and showed tatoos, etc...
Must be their first time. :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 11, 2021, 01:23:14 pm

In the U S infections are over 22.4 million, and over 374,000 deaths.

The holiday surge of covid19 is starting to over run the ability of hospitals  to care
for those affected. Those businesses who handle funerals are being over run as well.
Even to get death certificates is time consuming for those wanting to deal with family
members they need to bury.  So some of the dead will be on ice for quite a while.

It appears some of our police want to follow Trump and the far right. I have friends
in the police, and they are generally not allowed to publicly support political policies.
Of course privately they do, and it appears some let their politics affect their work.
These people must be weeded out, or they will continue to cause problems, and much
of it is racial.

Many are asking why there wasn't any preparation to protect the capital. I have a
hunch Trump and those in government who support him were at  fault. Hopefully
investigations will find those responsible in the end.

It is possible Trump is planning to order the national guard to leave just before his
supporters start to gather in Washington DC at the end of the week. It was he
who prevented the guard from being deployed during the attack by his mob. I hope
this can be prevented, but who can say. A president has powers that are hard to
deal with if he won't back down.

The GOP is losing members and Trump is losing support daily. I think people are
finding it harder to support Trump and those in the GOP who still wish to stand
with Trump. Especially after viewing the carnage at the capital last Wens day.
These people who seem to think violence will bring the change they want, need
to wake up. They will not win, Trump is leading them to failure. Even if they attack
every state  capital, they will face military action if the police is unable to deal with
them. All it will do is cause their deaths or imprisonment. Just as it did for the
confederacy  during the  civil war, and this time few will be left to continue their
fight against the people they wish  to control or rid the country of.

Trump and his supporters are complaining that social media is defying the first
amendment free speech rights. They should know private businesses are not required
to follow the first amendment, only government is. The government can punish
businesses for denying rights, but in the end  they can't be forced to  protect  peoples
first amendment rights. These people who are complaining, in many cases are the
same ones who complain about  government interference. So they should listen to
their own complaints.

Trump is heading for the Mexican boarder tomorrow. If it was next week, I would
wonder if he is planning to leave the country. Of course he still could.

It appears big business is turning against the GOP and Trump. This is likely to put
more pressure on the GOP politicians than even their voters. Because the two big
things they listen to is money, and votes. Loss of money hurts them most.  Though
the Democrats had nothing to do with the attack on the capital, some businesses are
removing support from both parties. Possibly waiting to see who the public supports.
Because they don't want to turn their  customers against them.

9 days left for Trump, hopefully we all  survive.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 11, 2021, 01:27:11 pm
You can read the House impeachment bill here:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/house-articles-of-impeachment/index.html

Fact check on impeachment.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/fact-check-tweet-trump-impeachment-run-2024-secret-service/index.html

What happens if Trump pardons the people who stormed the Capitol? (Not a pleasant thought IMO.)
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/nancy-pelosi-trump-impeachment-25th-amendment-nobles-sot-tsr-vpx.cnn

Live updates about impeachment proceedings.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-news-01-11-21/h_b9b3f6283a403cfb9b4a7e948c30e362

10,000+ National Guard troops to be in D.C.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/bowser-avoid-dc-biden-inauguration/index.html

In other news.........

The furry FBI has arrested 3 suspects today for their involvement in last week's insurrection. Kay Alett was arrested for producing and distributing chocolate Kit Kat bombs. Cause the Rat was arrested for vandalizing and defacing property by grafitti with acrylic paints. And Jade Sinapu was arrested for excessive barking, growling, snarling, and chasing at police (as well as postal carriers). All 3 will be charged in a furry court of law on Friday.  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 11, 2021, 05:32:53 pm
The "brown stuff" just hit the fan, folks.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/politics/fbi-bulletin-armed-protests-state-us-capitol/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on January 11, 2021, 07:41:05 pm
Looking at my beautiful passport, these words pop out at me.

"We the People
Of the United States,
in Order to form a more perfect union,
establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare, and secure
the Blessing of Liberty to ourselves and
our Prosperity, do ordain and establish this
Constitution for the United States of America."

These words have meaning, and I wish others would remember this.
We need to have Tranquility and be a more perfect union.  Not divided.

So sad.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 12, 2021, 01:21:54 am


In other news.........

The furry FBI has arrested 3 suspects today for their involvement in last week's insurrection. Kay Alett was arrested for producing and distributing chocolate Kit Kat bombs. Cause the Rat was arrested for vandalizing and defacing property by grafitti with acrylic paints. And Jade Sinapu was arrested for excessive barking, growling, snarling, and chasing at police (as well as postal carriers). All 3 will be charged in a furry court of law on Friday.  :D

I will defend my rights! MY art is not vandalizing! Ok, it's not that great. And just because you can't tell what it is supposed to be. Well, you and almost everyone else. I'll call it modern art! Because no one knows  what that is supposed to be either! My modern art is not vandalizing! It may not be beautifying. But it is critically acclaimed! Everyone is critical of it.  :)

Well it looks like Pence is still not willing to use article 25. To his credit he didn't commit treason in Trump's name.  in all honesty no one has the authority to put a time limit on something like article 25. All we can hope for now is Trump will mess up really bad again. He will be speaking live in Texas. Let's hope this time it's something even the republican party can't look away from.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 12, 2021, 12:02:28 pm
A quote from this article caught my eye today.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/congress-briefing-us-capitol-threats/index.html

QUOTE:
"The member added that lawmakers are hoping National Guard troops who are being dispatched to the capital are vetted, because while lawmakers trust most of them, many will be coming in from all over the country."

Scary to think, isn't it? I've already read some news stories about Capitol police and other law enforcement officers who "didn't do their jobs" when the rioters swarmed the Capitol building. Now we've got more Secret Service agents and thousands of National Guard troops pouring into D.C.. But can we trust any of them? Makes you wonder.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 12, 2021, 04:26:45 pm
1st Amendment Freedom of Speech doesn't mean what you think it means, folks.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/first-amendment-explainer-2021-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 12, 2021, 04:58:19 pm
In other news.........

The furry FBI has arrested 3 suspects today for their involvement in last week's insurrection. Kay Alett was arrested for producing and distributing chocolate Kit Kat bombs. Cause the Rat was arrested for vandalizing and defacing property by grafitti with acrylic paints. And Jade Sinapu was arrested for excessive barking, growling, snarling, and chasing at police (as well as postal carriers). All 3 will be charged in a furry court of law on Friday.  :D
Hey now if you can think of a better way to distribute kit kats to people I'd like to hear it!  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 12, 2021, 09:33:42 pm
BREAKING!

Pence does not support invoking the 25th Amendment. I had a slight feeling he wasn't going to support it.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/house-vote-25th-amendment-trump/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/pence-letter/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 12, 2021, 10:31:15 pm
Don't resist, Mr. Trump. We're making America great again.  :D

(https://i.imgflip.com/1p7c8q.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 13, 2021, 12:50:24 pm

In the U S infections are over 22.8 million and over 380,000 deaths.

Covid19 is continuing to ravage the country. Killing over 4000 a day. The holiday
serge will continue for another week at least. Many hospitals are being overwhelmed
already, even before this latest serge.

The inauguration should be moved inside, not only to protect Biden and Harris, but
many of our government leaders will be standing or sitting on a platform that can
be seen at a great distance. I am sure  there will be close surveillance of the area
but there isn't any reason to put our leaders at risk from snipers. Any government
protection could remain under Trump's control till 12:01 pm on January 20. So in
theory Trump could order any protective  guard to stand down till his term ends at noon
on the 20th. I hope the plan to  hold it outside  is a diversion to confuse any attack by
any  of Trump's supporters. A better place  would be under the dome within the capital
building, or better yet underground. After all  coverage will be televised across the
nation and the world no matter where it's held.

Reports are the secret service is controlling the security around the capital with high
fences and thousands of armed national guard. Numbers that may exceed 15,000
before the 20th of January. If true, protection might be adequate. But I would feel
better if it was under cover.

We know in spite of Trump's narcissist personality he may actually believe to lose
his re-election would need to be fraudulent. Ever since he started his run for the office
of president. He and those working for him, have done their best to not expose him
to people that didn't support him. All his rally's were setup to be private meetings
between him and those who support him. If a non supporter did manage to get in,
they were quickly removed. So his exposure to the average American was very limited.

Then Trump's links to the far right gave him a lot of support on far right media, and
online from those who believe the far right ideology.

Exposed to crowds of supporters and by the far right media, most anyone could
start to think they should win with ease. This added to a person who thinks they are
better than anyone else, and you have a person that might believe they could only
lose in a rigged election.

Add all that to a man who claims he will work to change government to please the far
right, and worse yet, white supremacist, and you have a president who is a danger to
the country.

All this assumes Trump is a honest man, which he is not. He is a professional con
man, A dishonest salesman who is perfectly willing to sell lies to anyone who is looking
for changes they already want. Over the past 5 years Trump has built a following who
see Trump as a man who will save the country from immigrants, minorities, and homosexuals.
The trouble is it's all a lie, but when his followers finally realize Trump
is only interested in creating a autocracy with him at the top, it would be too late to
remove him. This is why he must not be allowed to ever run for office again, because
he wants to be the a autocratic leader of this country for the rest of his life. A man who
is only interested in his own needs, and no one else's.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 13, 2021, 06:31:40 pm
ANY LAWMAKER, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, WHO ASSISTED IN ANY WAY THE RIOTERS WHO STORMED THE CAPITOL, NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND TRIED FOR TREASON! :goldpissed: :goldpissed:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-insurrection-insider-help/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/13/ali-alexander-stop-the-steal-gop-lawmakers-griffin-sot-nr-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-riot-investigation/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on January 13, 2021, 08:05:07 pm

In other news.........

The furry FBI has arrested 3 suspects today for their involvement in last week's insurrection. Kay Alett was arrested for producing and distributing chocolate Kit Kat bombs. Cause the Rat was arrested for vandalizing and defacing property by grafitti with acrylic paints. And Jade Sinapu was arrested for excessive barking, growling, snarling, and chasing at police (as well as postal carriers). All 3 will be charged in a furry court of law on Friday.  :D

Hey I resemble that remark!
I like the taste of paper and boxes. I just wanted to chew that paper!  Postal carriers carry paper products!
And I was chasing the police because there was another GSD in the car!  And I think it was a female!  :-[
And I am exempt from being tried, I am totally insane, and therefore not responsible for anything I do. Nothing at all.  Nothing I say! NOTHING!
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 14, 2021, 03:22:51 am
Huzzah!
Huzzah!
Huzzah!
Trump has been impeached for a second time! the evil orange stain is being removed! :D

There's still a lot of work left to be done, this is not the end, merely the prelude. There's still a lot of cultists out there still supporting trump and don't forget, dictators always lose the first attempt. He will try again. The law says that he cannot run for president again but he will try.

Never forget these words of wisdom from Picard...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eahs1H9tdcU
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 14, 2021, 01:49:52 pm


In the U S infections are over 23 million and over 384,000 deaths.

Unfortunately many people across the nation have no desire to be vaccinated against
covid19 unless they feel they are at risk of dying from the virus. This will only help
spread the virus even more, because a lot of people will be carriers of the virus if
hey aren't vaccinated. This decision is being caused not just by followers of Trump, but
those who want to believe weird conspiracy theories about government plans to
implant tracking devices by injection. Then you have those who just don't like the idea
of vaccinations, thinking they cause diseases.

I will be surprised if enough GOP senators have the guts to convict  Trump, even
after he has left office. Doing so would allow a vote to prevent him from ever holding
office again. A vote only requiring a simple majority.  Already GOP senator Grhamn
wants  to forgive Trump because he is afraid Trump's supporters might riot again. This
man should hang his head in shame for ignoring his oath of office, and resign.

-People should never follow any person, group, or media that encourages people to
break the law, cause damage to property, or injury to others. In fact you should see
this as a obvious reason to run away, because anyone or group who supports bad
acts, are being led by criminals, no matter what they claim. Following them will only
lead you to nothing but misery.

Reports are that most GOP members of congress are afraid to do their job, fearing
for themselves and their family. This is why they voted no for Trump's impeachment.
Now I am not going to tell these people to put themselves and their family at risk, but
if they can't, they should resign.  Because allowing criminals to intimidate them
to not do their job, means they have no business doing the work of government.
Just imagine what our country would be like if criminals were allowed to make laws
and do anything they wanted.

I think most of the rioters who attacked the capital, were misled by Trump and others,
but this is no excuse. Laws must be enforced or we have nothing but anarchy.  So
even though some of these rioters are usually good people, they must be held
accountable for their acts. Though Trump has said we can't allow such acts to go
unpunished. It would not surprise me if he pardoned them all just before leaveing office.
After all he said late that day that he loved them. 

Apparently he is worried about being unable to run again, because he is still claiming
he had  nothing to do with the riot, in hopes this will prevent a conviction in
the senate.

I think it's time the moderate members of the GOP worked to  create a new conservative
party. A party that truly believes in law and order, and leave the  political  cowards behind. I
think it's past time we ignore the supporters of the  far
right, and white supremacists to their own dirty work. I think there is enough good
people left in the GOP to support a new party as long as it continued the conservative
values we had many years ago. Values that supported a strong middle class instead
of one who only supports the richest 5% of  Americans.

It would take a lot of work, but even minorities would support a party that considered
the rights of all Americans, and work to eliminate racism in law enforcement.  Also I
think there are other policies they could support once the radicals are eliminated.

Time will tell, but us old no Trump republicans can hope.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 14, 2021, 03:02:46 pm
First let it be remembered and NEVER forgotten. The Americans who raided the capital building are victims of lies, propaganda and brain washing. Don't be angry at them. Be angry and never forget who did this to them.

Well this was one of the shortest impeachment trials. One day. I didn't watch it but kinda wonder who would speak up for Trump. And speaking of speaking there's a lot of speaking about three republicans who were speaking for months to the leader of the "Stop the Steal" movement. Actually speaking about planning this attack of the US Capital on that exact date. So in a game of cards you have a public speaker who just happen to be speaking on that planned day in front of a large crowd that would not have been there if that speaker wasn't speaking. The same date talked about by three republicans who were speaking to a propaganda organizer. There is a lot of speaking about how there where four republicans who would of had to know about this attack. One of them was actually speaking on that exact date to a crowd who would not have been there if that speaker wasn't speaking. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 14, 2021, 03:29:48 pm
First let it be remembered and NEVER forgotten. The Americans who raided the capital building are victims of lies, propaganda and brain washing. Don't be angry at them. Be angry and never forget who did this to them.

Well this was one of the shortest impeachment trials. One day. I didn't watch it but kinda wonder who would speak up for Trump. And speaking of speaking there's a lot of speaking about three republicans who were speaking for months to the leader of the "Stop the Steal" movement. Actually speaking about planning this attack of the US Capital on that exact date. So in a game of cards you have a public speaker who just happen to be speaking on that planned day in front of a large crowd that would not have been there if that speaker wasn't speaking. The same date talked about by three republicans who were speaking to a propaganda organizer. There is a lot of speaking about how there where four republicans who would of had to know about this attack. One of them was actually speaking on that exact date to a crowd who would not have been there if that speaker wasn't speaking.

Hey, Cause. How's about stop talking in riddles and guessing games, and instead actually give some links to further information and/or names of people.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 14, 2021, 04:03:38 pm
First let it be remembered and NEVER forgotten. The Americans who raided the capital building are victims of lies, propaganda and brain washing. Don't be angry at them. Be angry and never forget who did this to them.

I get where you're coming from Cause, and I sympathise to some degree. I feel bad for the people who were strung along, they were misled and brainwashed into this cult, but let me be clear that I believe that at some point you are still you doing the action. Mob mentality is not an excuse for breaking the law. "I was swept up in the moment", "I was following orders", and other such excuses do not justify breaking into the Capitol building. These people stormed in, caused a riot, broke things, stole, they made our representatives afraid for their lives. And while I get a chuckle out of making the spineless republican cowards afraid not all of the GOP are awful trump loyalists.

I feel bad they were misled but that is not an excuse for what happened. They broke the law and even worse they disrespected a place of importance to our government. We're America, we're supposed to be better than this. We're supposed to hold ourselves to a better standard.
They attacked a government building and I genuinely believe they would have done harm and injury to the people working there and if they had got their hands on the electoral votes they probably would have rummaged through them all and destroyed every vote for Biden.
They are traitors to our democracy, our government, our system of election and they need to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. And frankly, I feel so ashamed of them and their actions I genuinely think they should all serve time in prison and then be deported. They want their own government where trump is king? Fine, goodbye, how about they see if trump will buy an island for all of them to live on. We can take bets on how long it takes before they start eating each other.  :goldbloody:

Yes, I'm still mad about the attack. This wasn't an accident. They didn't trip and fall on a firearm and then stumble up the stairs into the Capitol.
Some things, once done, can never be undone.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on January 14, 2021, 05:16:24 pm

I get where you're coming from Cause, and I sympathize to some degree. I feel bad for the people who were strung along, they were misled and brainwashed into this cult...

Sadly there are ways to "hack " someones mind.  Humans have mental weaknesses, and are exploited every day, usually to buy things they do not need.
But yes, at the end of the day, we are supposed to overrule those impulses and weaknesses and use golden rule etc and not hurt or destroy.  We are the ones directing our lives, and we have the power to change our actions.  We have free will.

I've quit great jobs because something in me said "NO".

The people who stormed in the capitol should have been able to say "this doesn't feel right, don't do it".
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 14, 2021, 06:41:13 pm
In other news........

Biden to unveil nearly $2 trillion economic recovery package.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/biden-economic-rescue-package-coronavirus-stimulus/index.html

$2,000 stimulus payments back in play?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/stimulus-payments-2000-dollars-biden/index.html

Capitol riot denialism is already here.  :P
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/media/capitol-hill-insurrection-denial/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 15, 2021, 01:45:44 am
Fare enough Kobuk.

here's a link showing three republicans in contact with the creator of the 'Stop the Steal' propaganda movement. There is evidence that the attack on the Capital was planned. There is talk but no evidence that Trump's speech was also part of this plan. Giving way to the thought that Trump himself knew about this as well.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/13/ali-alexander-stop-the-steal-gop-lawmakers-griffin-sot-nr-vpx.cnn (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/13/ali-alexander-stop-the-steal-gop-lawmakers-griffin-sot-nr-vpx.cnn)

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 15, 2021, 01:22:26 pm

In the U S infections are over 23.3 million and over 388,000 deaths from covid19.

President elect Biden has plans to stop covid19 which will help to improve the nations
economy. This will take time, but people need to continue to wear masks, wash hands
and stay out of groups.  If people fail to follow these rules, it will prolong the spread
of covid19 no matter what the government does.

Unfortunately many followers of Trump wish to disrupt the inauguration of president
elect Biden, and VP elect Harris. This will only damage their cause, and turn the good
people of this country against them. 

The followers of Trump must accept the truth. Trump lost the  election of November
3rd, no matter how many times he repeats the lie that the election was stolen
from him. Trump understands if you repeat a lie often enough people will start to
believe it. It just the way the human brain works. To be an effective salesman Trump
has studied the way people think and how to manipulate them. Not in a good way, but
for his own benefit.

People need to understand the government cannot allow people to break the law even
if they think the government is bad. If people want to change the government they only
need to have people run for office, and work to make the desired changes. If the
required majority votes to do so, and it follows the constitution their wishes will be
done. Change by force will never happen. It will only cause harm to the innocent, and
the country.

While an election loss can seem wrong to many people, voter fraud in our country
is very rare. Then when any did happen, it had little or no effect. I know supporters of
Trump want to believe his claims of voter fraud, but if this did happen, all those running
in the same election would have been affected which were not. In fact the GOP gained
seats. If Trump's claims were true, then why didn't the GOP lose seats as well?
If people you like lose an election, then have them run again. If their cause is good
they will eventually win.

People should study the rise of Hitler in Germany, and the rise of Mussolini in Italy.
Both of these men took over their country using lies to convince people to follow them.
All this caused was the demise of their countries with much suffering by the people.

Human nature will never accept autocratic rule. Even though rule by a dictator is very
efficient, but no one man or woman is smart enough to rule a country, They will
eventually turn the people of their country against them, where to hold power, they
will have to use tyrannical force which will eventually cause their demise and the 
downfall of the country.

Terrible people down through history have used lies to gain power. Anyone who lies
must be placed under suspicion, because it is a clue to their true nature, and if
allowed to gain power, will bring ruin to a democratic form of government using lies to
turn misled people against the innocent.

To keep a democratic  form  of government healthy, the people must use  care
to put good people in office. Never believe what they say, but look to see what
they have done.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 16, 2021, 01:10:27 pm

In the U S infections are over 23.5 million and there are over 391,000 deaths and
it's likely over 400,000 will have died before Biden takes office.

The Trump administration bragged that they were going to have 20 million people
vaccinated by the end of 2020, but only a little over 4 million were vaccinated. Even
now only about 12 million have been done, with reports vaccines still haven't been
delivered as promised. We can only wonder if Trump has caused these delays with
the hope of making the new president look bad.  It wouldn't surprise me if this is
found to be true.

It was reported during the capital riot, the Vice president was almost spotted by
rioters. I just wonder if these people realized they could be shot trying to harm the
vice president? Because the secret service attachment who's job  it is to protect him
at any cost, could have ended up[ killing several rioters. Now that would have put the
fat in the fire once it hit the news.

Also there are reports that private tours of the capital were made the day prior to
the riots. So investigations are ongoing to see who authorized these special tours. To
see if they were men to show rioters how to gain access to congressional members
and their offices. This could lead to the conviction of staff and even members of
congress of collaboration with rioters. Only time will tell.

I think the senates impeachment trial should be put off to give the legislature time
to do the work needed to deal with the pandemic and the economy. Also the senate
needs to  approve the Biden cabinet members as well.

The moment Trump leaves office he will be subject to many law suits and criminal
indictments.  So he isn't going to have much free time to continue his attempt to
maintain his cult of support. Also if he is convicted by a state court of a crime, he
won't be able to run for president ever again. He may try to pardon himself, but it's
doubtful the supreme court will agree, and would open him up for indictment of federal
crimes as well. 

We should let Trump worry over all of these problems first, after all I doubt if there
are 17 GOP senators with the guts to vote for a conviction anyway, and besides,
Trump would love to point to a non conviction by the senate with his claims of
innocence.

I hope social media giants continue to limit posts of hate, and racism on their
internet sites. Yes this does reduce the number of people trafficking their sites,
but it is for the good of us all. These sites allow the weirdo's of the world to spread their
nonsense. Before the internet most of this was only found in supermarket checkout
news stands.  But with social media it's only a click away, and with sites making money
at a penny a click, we need a different way for thees sites to make money. Perhaps they 
should move to a subscription access to have full use of these sites. This might
eliminate  many of those who just spread their stupid ideas with the hope to get a
lot of attention. 

Social media over the years has become a home for many strange people and
weird ideas. Yes you will find there are still people who believe the earth is flat. Also
some still don't believe men ever went to the moon, and many many other ideas
by the ignorant among us. It would be good if all posts to these sites had to be fact
checked prior to the actual posting. Perhaps even to have a charge for each post
as well. Just as newspapers do.

I fear this will be slow in coming  with
huge sums being made allowing free
access.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 17, 2021, 12:58:47 pm


In the U S infections are over 23.7 millions and nearly 396,000 deaths by covid19.

Hopefully the new administration can get the GOP senators to help pass bills for the
good of the country. If the GOP decides to use the filibuster to prevent the Democrats
from passing laws needed for the good of the people. They will get rid of it. This senate
rule was created to stop the passage of laws designed to help minorities after the civil
war, when southern whites wanted to stop gains by  black Americans.

President elect Biden is very capable with a lot of senatorial  experience. So he may
be able to get work done without changing the filibuster rule. This would be best,
because if the senate goes back to GOP control during the 2022 election, we can
be sure Moscow Mitch will be glad to take advantage of the change just as he did
with the change that allowed the appointment of judges with a simple majority. 

It appears Trump is selling pardons for money, or for personal favors. Though
immoral, Trump while president can pardon as he wishes. I think a pardon bought, just
might be revoked, but only time will tell. As we know Trump hasn't any morals, so he
does what ever he feels will  benefit himself. 

As I have said, Trump could have been an acceptable president, but with no political
experience and being mentally inpomtinent,, along with his desire to only serve himself
made him totally unsuitable for the job.

Sadly he with the support of the far right and the GOP's desire to win the White House
at any cost, he was elected president. So the country has paid dearly for this over the
last four years. Because Trump's lack of knowing how to govern a country, and
desire to turn his election to his own benefit, has undone much of our gains to improve
the environment. Opening up federal lands to big business for political favors. Cutting
taxes for his rich friends. It will take a lot of work by the new president to undo the
damage he has done, and it's likely the GOP will try to prevent the loss of gains they
have gotten during Trump's term of office. Especially tax cuts for their rich supporters.

The worst thing Trump has done during his time in office is to give support to the
far right, and white supremacy. Not so much open support, but a lack of pushing back
against these radical elements of our society. It's unfortunate, but these people have
always existed, but until the election of Obama, they mostly stayed out of sight.

The election of an African American president was too much for them to swallow, so
with the help of the GOP and the far right, they made political gains. I fear it will take
a long time to push them back into hiding, and will continue working to turn the
public against immigrants, minorities and homosexuals.  People they hate, just as
the supporters of Hitler did in the 1930's.

I hope the Biden Administration can succeed in bringing our nation together again.
In spite of those who hate, and wish to turn the country back to the time when
white Americans ruled the country. They are doomed to failure, but unfortunately
many will suffer before they do.  The white race will slowly disappear over time, no
matter what these people want to believe. Hopefully they don't destroy our country
while trying to save control by the white race.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 18, 2021, 01:03:40 pm

In the U S infections are over 24 million and over 398,000 deaths by covid19.
The virus continues to spread, but the new administration will work hard to
bring it to an end.

The FBI continues to find and arrest those who took part in the capital riots.  Many of
the tips the FBI is receiving are from friends and family of the rioters. I have a hunch
this has surprised many of those who took part. I think we should be proud of those
who are turning in people they know. Because it's an act of patriotism by good
Americans.

President elect Biden will take the oath of office at noon this coming Wednesday.
Soon after he will sign declarations to undo much of Trump's twisted work. Work that
caused suffering by many people across the nation.  Some will take affect quickly,
but some will take time to undo.

Biden still plans to stand in front of the capital to take the oath of office. I understand
there are barriers out beyond any point people can see the capital well enough to
put Biden and others standing there at risk.

By rights the senate should have been working to appoint Biden's cabinet picks over
the last weeks. Instead they haven't done anything since they voted to approve the
electoral vote. So the next several days will be taken up by hearings to approve
Biden's cabinet. In the meantime they will only be acting members. I am sure GOP
senators will try to cause delays where they can, but with  a democrat majority they
can't do a lot to limit the senates work.

It's time the GOP stopped trying to please Trump and those he has misled, and start
acting like true patriots working for the good of the people and the country. Start
telling the truth, instead of spreading Trump's lies.  They should return to their values
of the  past, and leave Trump and the far right behind in the dust bin of history, where
they belong.

Reports are Trump is mostly working to decide who he will pardon while still in office.
I hear there over 100 people hoping to get Trump's blessings before he leaves office.
Some have offered tens of thousands of dollars to Trump's staff to lobby Trump for a
pardon.  This way their offer can't be called a bribe since the lobby is via a staff
member of  Trump. It's likely he will pardon all family he likes, along with a self pardon,
with hopes it will stand. Though it should not, as it would put him above the law.

Today is a federal holiday. Created to commemorate the birth of Martin Luther King Jr.
An African American religious leader of the 1960's. He was assassinated by a radical 
who seemed to think it would stop King's civil right movement for African Americans.

Perhaps the assassin thought it might cause an uprising by black people. Though it did
cause destructive demonstrations in major cities, it failed to start any significant
violence. After all Reverend King preached peace not violence.

I apologize for any misrepresentation of this fine man. Being white in a town of
white people, I can only relate what I saw at the time in the news.

I wish all a good holiday.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 19, 2021, 12:51:02 pm

 In the U S infections  are over 24 million and over 400,000 deaths from covid19.

Tomorrow president elect Biden and Vice  president  elect Harris will take their oath of
office.  The news media has been telling us about all those who feel Trump has his
election  stolen from him.  Well as it turns out, the actual percentage of Americans who
believe it is around 16% of the  population.     Yes this is still a
large number, but not all that large of a percentage of the population.

It's likely more people were upset over president Bush winning with the help of the
supreme court 20 years ago. I am sure with the help of the far right media, Trump will
keep a fair amount of support for some time yet. Though if he becomes ineligible to
run for office again, it's likely that will  finish him.

Trump will give dozens if not hundreds of pardons to friends, and other rich Americans
before he leaves office. There may be a few deserving recipients Trump can point to
so he can claim proper use of his pardon power.  Well he can claim what ever he
wants, but he has pardoned many who were pardoned for loyalty and likely gave
him money on the side, even though that might be hard to prove. It has been
shown he never  gave anyone anything  unless they grease his palm, or did him a favor.

We are fortunate that our founders didn't give the president the power to convict
people, or Trump would have likely sent many innocents to prison. Even yet, over the
last several months Trump has had several on death row put to death. Yes they had
been there for many years, but it's just more proof that Trump has no compassion, it's
him self first, and no one else.

I started this thread right after Trump won in 2016. Mostly to cover how he turned out
as president. I imagine most of those who have followed my daily posts, know I see
him as a terrible president who should have never been elected. Tomorrow I will lock
this thread, because as a private citizen Trump is no longer relevant, or part of our
government. I am sure thousands will continue to write about him, but for me he is just
a man who should be forgotten. I do plan to start a new thread where I will post weekly
about Biden, the ,Democrats, the pandemic and the GOP. If someone feels they want
to start a  new thread about Trump they can, but I see no need for it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 19, 2021, 02:45:29 pm
Thank you Old Rabbit.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on January 19, 2021, 07:08:12 pm
OR, I think you should finish out this thread through the end of January. Trump may be out of office tomorrow on the 20th, but who knows what shenanigans him and his cronies will do afterwards. I say keep posting in this thread till January 31st. Finish off the month.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on January 20, 2021, 05:53:00 am
OR, I think you should finish out this thread through the end of January. Trump may be out of office tomorrow on the 20th, but who knows what shenanigans him and his cronies will do afterwards. I say keep posting in this thread till January 31st. Finish off the month.
Not a bad idea. If there's anything we should all know about this manbaby its that he will whine the loudest he's ever whined after this and it's going to be something to behold. Plus there's been talk of another insurrection on the 20th, it may or may not happen or they may wait.

Either way OR I want to thank you again for your efforts chronicling this insane period of history. It couldn't have been easy to go through or stay sane through.
*hands you a small carrot cake* You are a true patriot sir.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 20, 2021, 11:48:33 am


I got to thinking, and Trump is still under  impeachment, so  I am going to unlock  the
thread till either his conviction happens or not. I don't plan on posting much myself, but this will allow  comments and news reports about Trump and his trial in the senate to be posted. I still think if people wish to follow Trump after the trial a new
thread  should be started.

Thanks for the nice comments, and I do hope Trump is convicted, and not allowed to run for any political  office again.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 23, 2021, 11:18:44 am

The impeachment trial is planned to start Feb 8.  Already evidence of president Trump
attempt to steal the election is being gathered. Not just for instigating the riot at the U S
capital, but other attempts as well. It seems president Trump was trying everything he
could to keep his election loss from being officially declared by the Senate. It's very
possible if president Trump had been smarter, he might have pulled it off.

Of course if he had been smarter he would have worked hard to protect the
American public and the economy from covid19. Doing this would have saved his
re-election. But to do that would have required empathy for the people, which he never
had, because he only cares about himself.

You would think the far right media would  be looking for a new GOP leader to support
after the riots of January 6. But no they are playing the victim game, just like Trump
did when things looked bad for him. It's a shame people don't realize these far right
media outlets are just after the money they can make. Because  advertisers will  pay
a lot of money to be on stations with the large audiences they attract with their
political lies, and  misrepresentations. 

Of course the cult of Trump will remain for a while, and playing to them will gain them large audiences.
and a lot of money.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 24, 2021, 12:54:41 pm

In the U S infections are over 25 million and deaths  are over 418,000  caused by covid19.


Reports are Trump's impeachment defense will center
around free speech.. This might be acceptable, but he
sat in the White House watching the riot he likely started
on TV and did nothing to stop it. This alone breaks his
oath of office that  requires he defend the country from
attacks, domestic as well as foreign.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 24, 2021, 05:19:47 pm
Old Rabbit. Trump's team uses the 'free speech' angle is proof they know they have no ground to stand on. It has never worked. Then there's the smoking gun of Trump's lawyers all saying they would walk out if Trump continues his plan to commit voter fraud by forcibly changing the results. Yes Trump's lawyers didn't go through with it. But it was Trump's plan. Because our legal system isn't broken Trump should be facing multiple criminal charges. Outside of those against him in office.  Even Trump's lawyers are under fire. Giuliani is facing being disbarred from law by the state of NY. That last waco supported lawyer is facing a 1+ billion lawsuit from the makers of those voting machines. Trump himself should be going up against charges from them soon. Along with a hand full of republicans.

Please everyone. Don't start thinking the Supreme Cort is gong to help Trump. They have not done a single thing in his favor so far. Whether you liked some of their recent rulings or not they have all been constitutional.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 25, 2021, 12:41:08 pm

Suits  against Trump's emoluments were dismissed by the Supreme court.  I could be wrong, but it seems he got a
win, even though he made a bunch of money with his use of the office of president.

I am sure many of Trump's supporters think the impeachment is just vengeance by
the Democrats, but if we don't hold people accountable for wrong doing, it will
happen again, and the next time could be a lot worse. Besides future presidents need
to know they won't be allowed to break the nations laws.

The GOP is trying to claim they are victims,and not to blaim for anything. Democrats
must not let the GOP get by with this. They are power hungry and want to win
re-election at any cost, and will continue to support Trump to get votes from his
supporters.

If Trump is allowed to run for president again, he will go after the help of the far right
and white supremacists across the nation. Trump loves power, and will do all he can
to regain the presidency.  If this is allowed and is successful, our democracy will be
lost. Because he wants to create a Trump dynasty for himself and family.   He expects
his supporters will gain full control of the GOP, which will give him autocratic  power
over the country,  Where once he has enough support from the justice department and
the military.  Like Russia and China the people  will no longer have a say over their
lives.

So until we can remove far right influence from the GOP, we must not allow any of
their supporters to win elections.  For years now they have been quietly  gaining
support in the GOP, waiting till they have enough members to take over. The next
election just might give them control, so we must vote to remove them.

Trump isn't against abortion,  or homosexuality, or even immigration. He is just using
this to gain political support. Once he has control of the country, he will let all those
white nationalist paramilitary groups go after anyone that speaks out against him or his
policies.  So just like Russia and China, demonstrations won't be allowed unless they \
are in support of him. 

Countries with autocratic systems can be easier to run by leaders, but they will lead to
destruction of the country, because human nature will bring eventual ruin, even by
those who start out with good intentions.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 25, 2021, 03:01:15 pm
President Biden is quickly removing all the unconstitutional executive orders Trump made. Reality is quickly hitting Trump's legal team. Giuliani has two things now to worry about. Being disbarred and now a 1.3 billion lawsuit against him from the makers of those voting machines. The second of Trumps legal team to get hit. Looking for at least two republican law makers to be charges soon.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 26, 2021, 12:50:18 pm

Is Trump on the phone talking to GOP senators? In the past it was reported he would
tell them to support him, or he would work for their defeat in primaries and elections.
If this is happening now, wouldn't it be the same as a defendant in a court trial threatening
members of the jury so they would vote in his favor? Wouldn't this be a crime as it would be
in a court trial? I haven't heard anyone on the news bring this  up, but it seems like it should be
looked into. I am sure lawyers involved to convict ex-  president Trump are a lot smarter than
I am, so one would think they would be doing  so. If this kind of interference isn't a crime it
should be.

I hear Trump wants to create a new party, I say go right ahead, because it will
only harm the GOP, and a third party wouldn't likely get enough support to do
much of anything.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 30, 2021, 11:56:30 am

The Trump cult is still alive, and will destroy the GOP as a major party unless the party
leadership works against  this dangerous cult and ex-president Trump. A congressional
GOP leader traveled to Florida to beg Trump to not start a new party. He
and the GOP leadership know a third party would make it all but impossible for the
GOP to win elections over the Democrats.

However members of the Trump cult are starting a new party anyway, and if Trump decides to
support it, the GOP could be in serious trouble during the next election.

This push by racist people raised it's ugly head in the early years of the 20th century.
The streets of Washington had a march of thousands of members of the K K K in white
sheets no less. It wasn't till the great depression brought on by the collapse  of the
world economy, and a world war that turned the country away from becoming a fascist state.

Even at that the country turned a boatload of Jewish children away, forcing them to
return to Germany, where they likely ended up in a concentration  camp to die.

Trump pushed for nationalism while in office.  He did this to gain support, because
he saw it was a growing desire among white Americans across the country. it is
unfortunate, but this dangerous idea is spreading around the world, and encouraged
by authoritarian leaders, because they see it as a way to destroy democracies.

Putin of Russia has been working to spread nationalism in
Europe. Nato has been a thorn in Putin's backside, and he knows nationalism would
wreck this European community. Allowing him more influence over the region. He
wants to re-create the Soviet Union which would restore a large buffer of friendly
nations in case of a land war with the west.  Russia down through history has been
a victim of foreign invasions, and wish this to never happen again.

Trump with his desire to befriend Putin, did little to protect NATO, in fact he was
pulling American  forces out of NATO during his time as president. By doing this, NATO 
countries might  feel the need  to make deals with Putin, fearing the loss of  American
military support. 
 
If this spread of nationalism continues around the world, there is a strong possibility
it could cause another world war. A war that could go nuclear which would destroy
civilization as we know it. Something the super rich best work to stop, or they will end
up with nothing as well.

The nations of this world need to work together, to help each other. Nations that are
only concerned wit their own needs could end up feeling the need to  invade their
neighbors. This of course is how wars start, and I fear this is where our world is
headed with these nationalistic movements.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 30, 2021, 04:19:53 pm
Honestly hope Trump's supporters do start a new political party. Looking at this mathematically. Bernie Sanders was asked not to run as an independent in 2020. He agreed knowing that if he ran it would split the non republican votes into two. If Trump supporters start a new party the same mathematical thing will happen to the republican party.  They stood by and created Trump. They now own that problem. If they don't make a stand now they wont have a leg to stand on in two years.

As far as how congress and the house should deal with Trump and what happened on Jan.6. They shouldn't. They are not part of our legal system. This should be in the hands of the DOJ, CIA and the FBI. The only thing they could do is impeach him for it. With Trump already out of office this is kind of a waste of time. It would be like a former employer writing you up a few months after you left that job. The only real thing it would do is show a bipartisan stand against what happened. With the republican party broken this will not happen.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 31, 2021, 02:57:02 am
And speaking of the impeachment proceedings. Part of his legal team just walked out on him. Trump want's to continue his lie about the election. They said no and walked out. His freedom of speech angle would be thrown out of court.  His lawyer's defense on why Trump can't be impeached because he's no longer president floats like a rock. He did this crime wile he was president. Impeachment is the only coarse of action our government has. The rest would have to be done outside of the house and senate.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-trump-impeachment-team/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-trump-impeachment-team/index.html)

Trump's got home troubles too. Apparently he doesn't want to honor the legal agreement he signed when he turned Mar-a-Largo into a privet club. Legally he can't live there.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/legal-review-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/legal-review-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html)

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 31, 2021, 01:00:48 pm
And speaking of the impeachment proceedings. Part of his legal team just walked out on him. Trump want's to continue his lie about the election. They said no and walked out. His freedom of speech angle would be thrown out of court.  His lawyer's defense on why Trump can't be impeached because he's no longer president floats like a rock. He did this crime wile he was president. Impeachment is the only coarse of action our government has. The rest would have to be done outside of the house and senate.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-trump-impeachment-team/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-trump-impeachment-team/index.html)

Trump's got home troubles too. Apparently he doesn't want to honor the legal agreement he signed when he turned Mar-a-Largo into a privet club. Legally he can't live there.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/legal-review-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/legal-review-trump-mar-a-lago/index.html)


Perhaps he could put up a tent on his  golf course and live with his body guards. Hi Hi.

Nice post  Mr Rat.  I don't think Trump is going to find a lawyer who wants disbarment trying to defend a lie. 
Of course he could always threaten a GOP  congressman into defending him.
There are plenty of them to choose from.
It will be interesting to see what he comes up with.
But I think the only way he can be kept from running
for political office again is by using the 14th  amendment
against him.  That is if  the supreme court  agrees.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on January 31, 2021, 08:21:44 pm

Perhaps he could put up a tent on his  golf course and live with his body guards. Hi Hi.


Most cities have laws against using tents and campers for permanent occupancy. And by law he not only can't live there but can't receive mail there either. You have to be able to live at a location for more than 30 days to get mail. According to Florida state laws Trump can only live at Mar-a-Largo seven days at a time.

And speaking of home troubles the state of NY is demanding more of Trump's tax documents be released. Below is a quote from CNN,

"James' office has been investigating Trump and the Trump Organization since 2019, when Trump's former attorney Michael Cohen testified before Congress that the former President's annual financial statements inflated the values of his assets in order to secure favorable loans and insurance coverage, but deflated the value of other assets in order to reduce real estate taxes. "

Don't look like Trump's going to return to NY any time soon either. Guess Russia is getting to look more homie all the time..... :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 01, 2021, 01:00:38 pm

Yes the impeachment seems a waste of time, but it does give GOP members a
chance to show their true colors.

Trump's lawyers will be busy for quite some time. It's a shame Trump isn't required to
show up at all of his court troubles.  Hopefully prosecutors will come down on him hard,
because he will try to wiggle out of them like the worm he is.


 I doubt if Trump would ever live in a tent anyway.  But he might get one of
those bus sized motor homes, and park it here and there with a little trailer in tow for the
secret service to sleep in.  Also he could perhaps get a post office box for mail, or
have people send it to one of his resorts.  With Trump's money he could just rent
a penthouse nearby to live in.  Though I am sure Trump would rather stay at one
of his resorts, so he could get the  government to pay him to house his secret service
protection.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on February 01, 2021, 03:11:53 pm
Old Rabbit. The government pays for the secret service for every x-president. One of the reasons why Trump can't go back to NY is the building itself. In order to protect Trump the government would have to evict all the tenants below Trumps condo. Back when Trump got elected he wanted to stay at that location. The city of New York told him no. There are no laws that would allow Trump to evict people for that reason. It's still America.

Apparently Trump is keeping millions donated to him, not to re run for office, for himself and his legal troubles. You know what's funny? There's laws against that too.

On a side note. That group called "Black Lives Matter". You remember, the one Trump called a terrorist group. They have been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. I bet right wing media is wetting themselves over this.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 04, 2021, 12:45:21 pm

I think that is great about Black Lives Matter winning a Nobel prize. I bet  Trump had a fit when he heard
about it, because he wanted one really bad.


It seems the GOP wants to copy Trump's style of politics, using conspiracies and lies
to build cult like support for their party. This type of support can convince people of
most anything. Even totally crazy ideas that have nothing to support them but lies.
Look at Trump, after over 20,000 lies, his followers still want to believe any lie he tells
them.  I heard one man call deaths by covid19 a pack of lies. This kind of blind
support is very dangerous to this country and society as thisman  doesnt see any reason
to protect himself or those around him from covid19.

Hopefully there are enough people to punish those in the GOP for this anti social
nationalistic plan of theirs. Because if they succeed it will destroy the country and our
way of life. Hopefully the justice department will declare those who wish to use violence
to get their way as terrorists. Already Canada has done this for those groups they
see in our country using violence. I am sure they fear these groups could gain
support there, and will work to stop it.

The impeachment trial is just the tip of Trump's legal troubles. He has lawsuits
galore, and could end up in court due to charges of election fraud, and tax fraud.
 I am sure his lawyers will try to delay all these legal issues till Trump has a 
chance to run for president again in 2024. If he was able to win, he would have the
office of president to protect him from his legal issues once more.

The senate hasn't  approved an  attorney General yet. I wonder if the GOP is delaying this
to slow indictments of Trump, or his cronies he forgot to  pardon till after the senate so called trial.

 I doubt if Trump would ever live in a tent anyway.  But he might get one of
those bus sized motor homes, and park it here and there with a little trailer in tow for the
the secret service, and charge them to sleep in it.  Also he could perhaps get a post
office box for mail, or  have people send it to one of his resorts.  With Trump's money
he could just rent a penthouse nearby to live in.  Though I am sure Trump would
rather stay at one of his resorts, so he could get the government to pay him to
house his secret service  protection.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on February 04, 2021, 03:00:25 pm
Fox news network has been hit with a 2.7 billion law suit.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/media/smartmatic-fox-news-giuliani-powell-lawsuit/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/media/smartmatic-fox-news-giuliani-powell-lawsuit/index.html)

And wouldn't you know it. They are now debunking their own lies about this election. I'll have to ask a few of their fans at work so see what they think about being lied to. Or if Fox is lying to them now.

And speaking of lies. Trump has been requested to testify at his impeachment trial. His lawyers don't want him there. Not subpoenaed but they are leaving that open as a legal right if Trump refuses.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/impeachment-trial-trump-testify/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/impeachment-trial-trump-testify/index.html)

Yes I'm happy.  :D  (:  :D  (:  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 06, 2021, 01:07:43 pm

Will Trump show up to defend himself on the floor of the senate?  It's not likely
because his lawyers know Trump can't be trusted to hold his tongue from talking
too much, and would likely start claiming the election was stolen from him again.
Something the GOP have no interest in, as it just adds to the reason for his conviction.

President Biden isn't going to approve giving Trump state secrets because he can't
be trusted to keep his mouth shut, and could end up harming the governments 
work with other countries. Especially after his reported support of the capital riots 
in January.

It seems the GOP is  facing a split in their party, With the Trump supporters on one
side and those not supporting him on the other. Ever since Trump was kicked off much
of social media, he hasn't been seen, even on far right media, who are losing millions
by not having Trump on for his supporters to see. Now with the huge lawsuit against
Fox News, I imagine other far right media sites  are being careful who they want to
blaim for Trump's loss.

 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 08, 2021, 01:03:04 pm

If the
 impeachment trial does nothing else, it will likely show how little the far right
 
controlled GOP cares  about the law, the nation or the constitution. If nothing else, Trump
has  proved a sucker is born every minute, and the GOP is standing with him.
Already you  can see the far right side of the GOP using the Trump style of politics,
because they  expect it to  help them to not only retake power, but to keep power for
the  foreseeable future, even if  they must destroy our democracy to do it.

Perhaps most GOP congressional members feel to save the nation, they must keep
power, because they fear the Democrats will push the country toward socialism, which
goes against the desire of the rich. Especially  the super rich who use their money
trying to control the GOP. I fear the far right will take the GOP
too far with their desire to keep people of color under white control. This fascist plan
by the far right will only tare the  country apart. if the GOP continue to support far right extremists.

I don't think even Trump understands how limited his control is, because once
unleashed, rioting mobs only respond to overwhelming force, and would spread nation
wide if allowed to start. I often worried that people leaving a Trump rally might go on
a rampage, just as they did at the capital if directed by him. Trouble is a man like
Trump would just point and walk away as he did in early  January. Leaving his followers
to deal with what comes after. During one of his early rally's, he promised to pay the
legal bills for his followers if they attacked an anti Trump demonstrator. This turned
out to be a lie, as some of Trump's followers found out later.

I think most people who voted for Trump in 2016 felt he would change if he became
president. Unfortunately by 2020 Trump had convinced many in the GOP that he was
good for the country with all his lies, tweets, and rally's., knowing  how to sell
himself from long experience soon had his followers believing anything he said, and
many of them still do, or won't admit even to themselves  it was a mistake to support
him.

Trump, a master of the con, has created a cult following, and once caught up in
a cult, it's hard for people to admit the cult leader is a bad person, much less turn away
from one. Knowing this, Trump will take full advantage of those he has worked
hard to mislead. This is why he must be indicted and hopefully convicted  of his crimes.
If not he will attempt to regain the presidency in 2024. If  successful with his previous
experience he will work hard to gain authoritarian control over the country, and if the
far right GOP has control of the senate and house, he just might succeed.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 10, 2021, 12:34:40 pm

 It's been reported that Trump isn't happy with the defense his lawyers are presenting.
It's also been reported the reason he fired other lawyers is because they refused to
use his desire to claim he is secretly still president, and calling president Biden
illegitimate. Perhaps he will find some lawyers willing to risk their careers to please
him by repeating his lies on the senate floor in his defense. Only time will tell. I think
it would be fine if Trump himself showed up in his own defense.  Its likely he would
turn GOP senators faces red with his lies and claims.

I agree with senator Ted Cruz when he called this impeachment trial political theater,
because it is. The founders apparently never dreamed a entire political party like the GOP
would  turn against the constitution, especially the senate.  Or they would have set up a non
political way to convict  a president. The senate unlike the house is supposed to be
mostly non political, but  over the years it has fell to political expediences instead of
following constitutional norms. I fear it's virtually impossible to keep politics  out of
government, because human nature will cause a lot of people to put their own desires
over those of the voters and the country.

This is why we desperately need term limits, because some people think only they
know what is best for the country. Or worse yet, they work for their own benefit if
allowed to make office holding a career.  Being in the house or the senate should be
one of honor, not for personal gain.

Sometimes I wish there was a way to have a non human entity to setup rules for us all.
Say a alien with the power and intelligence to bring the people of the world together  in
peace and prosperity. A dream unfortunately, but I fear humanity will destroy it's
self before it become smart enough to create a world of peace.  Because the human
brain is for it's self, and only intellect can overcome that instinctual self desire.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on February 10, 2021, 01:53:17 pm
Sometimes I wish there was a way to have a non human entity to setup rules for us all.
Say a alien with the power and intelligence to bring the people of the world together  in
peace and prosperity. A dream unfortunately, but I fear humanity will destroy it's
self before it become smart enough to create a world of peace.  Because the human
brain is for it's self, and only intellect can overcome that instinctual self desire.

This is why I love the ending to the 2000 game Deus Ex. I'll mark a spoiler for anyone who doesn't want to know but if you play games I encourage you to play it.

Spoiler: show
By the end of the game you encounter an AI called Helios that is not only connected to the internet, it IS the internet. It takes control of everything connected to the net even tangentially. It shuts down China's roadblocks to Hong Kong, it locks the triads in their headquarters effectively opening up free trades and shutting down organized crime. It begins radically reshuffling the entire landscape of human society on the basic levels but while the AI knows how to run things it doesn't really understand people, their wants, their desires, their fears.

So it explains that it wants to merge itself with the player character, it doesn't want to take over his mind and body it want to merge in order to understand human nature so that it can better provide for the world. It IS the internet and it is nearly sentient, with data mining algorithms and wireless cameras it can see everything, know everything, it can give people anything they want but it doesn't have understanding and empathy and compassion on a human level. It wants that so that it predict what humanity will want and need and it can only do that if it merges with a human mind, yours.

The player character is understandably uncertain and asks what will happen to him if he merges with the AI to which Helios tells him "You will be, who you will be. We are our choices. We can choose to lead the world out of this darkness." And so the player character goes through with it, merging his mind with Helios, becoming one with the internet, an all knowing and nearly omnipresent entity. The games ends saying "If there was no god, it would be necessary to invent him. Effectively saying that you the player have now effectively become god of this world.


A benevolent dictator who provides for the people without serving itself first and foremost would be fantastic. An entity that has no further goal beyond the health and safety and wellbeing of people and doesn't ask anything in return. Not payment, not sacrifice, not worship.
Yet I fear humans would inevitably find a way to mess it up. That's just how we can be.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 12, 2021, 12:08:51 pm

The GOP senators are wanting to use the fact Trump is no longer in office as an
excuse to not vote to convict him. We should remember Moscow Mitch purposely shut
the senate down to give GOP senators this way out, because they had enough time
prior to January 20 to finish the impeachment process.

It is sad to see these political cowards sitting with their plans to allow Trump a path to
be elected again. He will likely lose again, but if and when he does, he will likely
repeat his claim of the election being fraudulent as he did in 2020, and his supporters
may be even worse the second time around, and really attack state capitals as claimed
in early January of this year.

Many of these senators lived through world war 2 and the Korean war. If our soldiers
were as cowardly as they are today, we would not have a democracy, and they have no
right to be called honorable.

It is very sad to see people following a man like Trump. When he is telling a crowd
he is for them, it's a lie. When he says WE, he really means ME, and I hope those
who follow him, figure it out very soon.

Trump is just part of the issue. Because he is just riding a wave of discontented 
people who fear minorities are going to steal control of the country away from good
white Americans. Sadly racism by white people has existed in this country ever since
the days where slave ships brought black people from Africa.  Held naked in chains,
these people were sold to wealthy whites who used them for cheap slave labor.
Unfortunately slaves were seen as little more than animals by people in towns and 
rural communities.

and Since they had little opportunity to wear good clothes and worked around animals.
They often smelled bad with little or no chance for education. People didn't want them
around and soon people treated them much the same as the animals they worked with.

This of course led many to think people of color were of a lower breed. Especially
ignorant whites who thought of them selves superior to the colored race. This of course
caused people to create laws that made life worse for the black man. Much as it did for
the red man who whites saw as savages.
 
People often look down on anyone who looks different, or is of another culture. Also
people like to blaim others for their problems, so they pick on those who are different.
Especially immigrants. During the mid 19th century Americans were opposed to Irish   
immigrants as well as those from China. Mostly because they were different.

It has been over 55 years since I was in high school, so I really don't know if there is
any classes to educate young people about respecting people of different races or
culture. There certainly was none when I was in school. The closest was on citizenship
which was mostly about government. Unless we educate young people to respect
each other, they are going to mostly follow the ways of their parents. Who in many
cases are going to teach by example, and if the parents think of themselves as better
than minorities or immigrants, their children will likely feel the same. 

Trump saw racism as a way to gain support from the masses, because he knew most
people  would follow  him if he played to their hate for immigrant, minorities, and was
against those with life styles or religions they didn't like. As his campaign continued he
worked to make people believe he would work to stop anything his supporters didn't
like. So over time he became a hero to the discontented people of this country.  He
picked the GOP's flag to run under because of their obvious racial overtones. I wonder
how many of his supporters know in the not to distant past, he had been a Democrat,
 and supported abortion. I expect he originally switched to the GOP because the
Democrats  elected a black man for president. Something he hated, being a racist
himself.

It will be difficult to turn people away from a man or party they see supporting their
wishes. Many of them don't realize Trump is leading them down a path of destruction
that is designed for his benefit, instead of theirs. I am not sure how to change their
minds, but several of the rioters are finding out that Trump duped them into breaking
the law for his benefit, and not theirs. Even friends and family are turning against these
rioters, and Trump. So perhaps it's a seed that will grow to defeat Trump and his 
plans to turn our country into an autocracy with him as it's permanent leader. 

Hopefully, truth, justest, and the American way will mean something to the GOP again.
If not they will end up in the trash bin of history. Where all bad organizations belong.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on February 12, 2021, 04:19:14 pm
Hopefully, truth, justest, and the American way will mean something to the GOP again.
If not they will end up in the trash bin of history. Where all bad organizations belong.

I know a fair few folk who are republican that voted democrat in the latest election, not because they believed in the left's views but just because they didn't like what the right has become. To those people I've been saying "Republicans by themselves are not the problem. It's the rot, the hate, the greed and the gluttony for power that has become the problem." And of them I've said "You wanna be a republican, fine, that's your choice but please continue voting democrat till your party gets its act together and gets denazified."

I got no problem with people voting right because of their personal views, that's their choice, but to just ignore the corruption and the radicalism that's taken hold in the GOP as they claw and scrape to squeeze as much power for themselves as they can is what I hate. The attitude of "I've always voted republican, I ain't stopping now" is idiotic. You might as well be calling yourself a southbound Zax.

If you don't know the reference read Dr. Seuss' book The Sneeches the story of the Zax is basically a political parable about two creatures who refuse to make any compromises in their views or behaviors and as a result they are locked forever in a stalemate, never moving while the world around them changes and progresses but the two Zax, frozen in place by their stubborn attitudes remain fixed because neither will move out of the others way. If they would just make the tiniest compromise they might get something done but they refuse.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on February 13, 2021, 04:45:13 pm
Trump aquitted..........again, during his second impeachment trial.  :o I kind of figured this might happen. He mainly got aquitted because the majority of Senate Republicans believed that it was unconstitutional to impeach a person who is no longer president.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/13/politics/senate-impeachment-trial-day-5-vote/index.html

Trump still doesn't get a "Get out of jail free" card though. He still has a reckoning with his taxes, properties, and so forth. Gonna be fun to watch that happen.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 14, 2021, 01:16:13 pm
Yes Trump got the GOP to stand by him once more. Most likely with primary  threats.

Now he will have to deal with many court actions against him. But with high priced  lawyers he will drag them out
as long as possible. This  is how he has wiggled his way out of trouble in the past, but time will tell.

The Democrats should use the 14th amendment against him as it only requires a simple majority
in both houses to invoke. This would at least stall any attempt by Trump to start a re-election plan.

Trump may just try to get a Republican elected in 2024, but I think that will be a hard sell, as his supporters
mostly want or trust him as president.

As long as the GOP put party over country they are a danger to democracy, and should be opposed.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 17, 2021, 12:42:40 pm

As usual the party of Trump is up to no good. The GOP governor  of Texas  is wanting
to blame the power failure effecting millions is the fault of the Democrats and their push
for clean energy. In fact the clean energy wind farms were doing better than those of
coal, and gas. The real fault was the privately operated power grid covering 14 states
of the central U S failed due to the extreme cold, and high demand. 

As it turned out much of the power plants, including wind generators lacked proper
winter protection. Blades for wind generators had blades designed for mild
temperatures to save money.  So instead of being able to deal with ice many had to
be shut down.

The GOP's push for private industry over government often doesn't  work due to private
industries desire for profit over spending the money needed to handle emergencies.
Southern coal, and gas power plants apparently broke down due to the cold freezing
needed water lines. If they had been insulated or otherwise protected the plants may
have not failed. But that would have cost more, and as usual private industry cares
more about profit than preventing problems. They do try to plan for highest expected
loads, but apparently not for zero degree temperatures.

I am in favor of private industry, but they must be regulated, especially when they
provide products or service that protects public lives and property. A big problem with
the GOP is they have a habit of looking the other way if big business offers them
money to do so. This wouldn't be such a problem if we had term limits to keep power
hungry people from trying to make a career out of government service.

This desire by Trump and the GOP to protect the profits of big business is a big reason
covid19 has killed so many. Trump feared this virus would hurt his chance for
re-election and the stock market. So he and the GOP didn't push for anything that
might cost profits for their big business supporters. This greatly slowed response to
produce masks and other products that could protect people from the virus, and of
course Trump lied wanting to cover it all up. 

We can expect Trump and his GOP friends to do all they can to blame  the Democrats
for any and all problems the Biden administration may run into. Even if it was caused
by Trump and the GOP to begin with.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 20, 2021, 12:57:21 pm

Unfortunately the people of Texas are suffering power and water losses due to
extreme cold weather. Seems the GOP is trying to shift blame to Democrats over
their move toward clean energy. When in reality the GOP by setting up a independent
power grid for most of Texas, to avoid federal regulations that would have required
more protection from severe cold, all to save money in their attempt to gain votes.

I am sure the GOP will continue to lie in their attempt to cover up their bad decisions,
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump adds his voice to blame Democrats as well. After all
if the GOP lost Texas support, they would find it hard to  win senatorial  elections.
 Especially presidential elections.

It is sad people continue to support the GOP. Any party that is out to cut government
have no interest in support of public needs. Instead they push toward private business
who cares more about profit, which leaves many people to do without. Yes people
should work to protect them selves, but  many times due to sickness, disability, or
 accidents are unable to do so.

Sadly the GOP lies to gain votes, I am not a fan of abortion, but women's rights should
be protected. Radicals continue to claim the unborn must be protected from the
moment of conception, and wish to put doctors in jail, even though they are only
following the wishes of the  woman. Fearing the loss of votes by women, the GOP
won't pass laws against women for having abortions even though it's always due
to a woman's wishes, and not the doctor. If abortion is made illegal again, women will
still get abortions, even if they have to do it them selves, putting their lives at risk.

Radicals don't want to admit more women had abortions prior to them being made
legal, and to be sure the GOP will continue working to make abortion illegal  again
to gain votes. Even though many rich members of the GOP will help their wives 
and girlfriends get abortions, even if they have to leave the country to get one. We can
only wonder how many women Trump helped to  get abortions over the years.

Will the GOP split into one for Trump, and one without Trump? It's a hard question 
because party leaders know a split could end their control of the government for years
to come. Just a loss of a small percentage of voters could mean the lost of a lot of
elections with a party split.

Over the past 5 years about 25% of the GOP is either going independent or to the
Democrats. That's bad news for a party that is already doing well to get 45% voter
support. Were they to fall back to even 40%, they would be in serious trouble without
strong candidates running for office. Candidates that would draw votes from
independents as well. Radical candidates would find it almost impossible to win any
elections. As most moderates won't vote for them.

The GOP knows if they can keep the Democrats from passing bills that help
people, it will make it easier for them, because most people want to see work being
done and will vote for those that appear to be doing so, and not for those who don't.
I find it interesting that the GOP ignore the wishes of their voters for public aid, but are
willing to vote to help their rich supporters. So they lie to their voters to cover up the
GOP's dirty work. I wish the GOP would return to honest work, and ignore the rich who
care little for the peoples needs. Their support of ignorant people who fail to understand
what is good for the country harms us all. Instead of lies the GOP should tell the truth.
Which would help them, and the country.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 21, 2021, 12:41:43 pm

Good old Ted Cruz went to Mexico so he and his family could enjoy 80 degree weather,
while his fellow Texans froze in zero temperatures without electricity or water.  At
least till he realized they saw him go. Then he hurried back, and  started to make all 
kinds of excuses, just like all good GOP politicians  do. Then while he was making all
those excuses Democrats were out raising money to help their fellow Texans. I hope
Texans remember how the GOP treated them the next time they vote.

Trump hasn't said much over the last month of being out of office. There is a big GOP
convention soon to start. I have a hunch he will be called to speak to those attending.
They best have their lie blinders on, because you can be sure most of his words will
be lies about his election loss, and how they need him to take back government.
Actually I think the best thing the GOP can do is tell Trump to return to his golf course
and stay there. They should remember that nearly every GOP politician Trump tried to
help get elected, lost.

It seems the GOP is wanting to step back 150 years to another time when a party 
aught to overturn elections. Sadly now as then it was to stop African Americans from
gaining political power. It wasn't long after the civil war that due to political 
manipulations, the federal government pulled troops out of southern states. With
these troops gone whites kicked African Americans out, who had won elections in
local, and state governments. Then with the help of the K K K blacks were intimidated and killed
to keep them out of politics forever. This was the start of the Jim Crow laws. It wasn't till
the early 20th century that African Americans began to over turn these laws. Now if the
current GOP gets their way, I fear we may see people of color losing more and more
of their rights, because many white people are afraid people of color will take over the
nation. 

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on February 22, 2021, 08:55:13 pm
Trump is in BIG trouble.  :o The Supreme Court has allowed his tax records to be released. Now we get to see how deep that red ink really goes.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-taxes-vance/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/28/opinions/trump-taxes-debt-and-desperation-opinion-mccaffery/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/trump-tax-returns-analysis/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/01/trump-taxes-why-he-ran-for-president-cillizza-the-point.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-election-taxes-stormy-daniels/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/02/22/supreme-court-tax-ruling-trump-statement-keilar-nr-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 25, 2021, 01:05:08 pm

The GOP is complaining about raising the minimum wage. I guess GOP millionaires
expect the people to work two jobs if they want more money. I know of some working
three jobs trying to make ends meet. The minimum wage hasn't been raised for 14
year. I guess millionaires don't notice inflation the way the rest of us do. Since they
have enough money to cover higher costs, and their big business friends hate having to
pay workers more. Keeping costs down for them is a big reason the GOP is
against Unions as well. That and the fact Unions tend to support Democrats.
Like Trump the GOP is against anyone or group that doesn't support them.

I think the Democrats should give the GOP full credit for standing in the way of the
covid19 relief bill. Not only does it help people who are in need, it would give a boost
to the economy. Unfortunately the GOP is against anything that might help Democrats.

I really don't think politicians wanted  capital police to use violence against the rioters
unless they were of foreign origin. They keep talking about the national guard, but I
wonder  just what they were expected to do? Stand in the way of the rioters, or shoot
them? 

Personally I think they should install  remotely controlled water cannons on each
side of the steps on both sides of the building. That way they wouldn't need a big fence
or a large guard to protect the building or it's inhabitants. Then if a mob was to run to
the steps, they could be pushed away without  serious injury to the mob or guards.
Passive protection like fences is cheaper, but looks really bad. Water defense could raise up
out of the ground when needed, and out of sight otherwise.

I think just having water defense would deter most people. Water under pressure can
knock people off their feet, even if they try to use a shield, and getting wet isn't much
fun either.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on February 26, 2021, 12:24:23 pm

As expected the GOP got their way to keep a vote on the minimum wage delayed.

No, Trump isn't another Hitler, but as Hitler did, he shows how fragile a democracy is
when confronted by a leader willing to feed an angry crowd of supporters with lies and false
conspiracies. I have said many times, Trump knows how to manipulate
people. A master at the con game. Which he is willing to use for his own benefit.

So now with the help of the GOP, a party he has taken control of, he plans to help
it win back control of the two houses of congress in 2022, and the presidency in 2024.
He may fail, but if he does, he will try to have his supporters help him undo the
elections which he will claim to be rigged against him and his supporters.

As popular as Trump is in the GOP, he is currently only at 37% nation wide. This
means as a presidential candidate he will lose. So if the GOP nominate him to run in
2024, they are picking a loser unless he gains in popularity.  Somehow I think Trump's
lies won't hold up over time, especially with Independents and Democrats.
Also Trump has a poor record of helping elect fellow GOP members, either to the
House or the Senate. Apparently his con game doesn't work so well for anyone but him.
So time will tell if the GOP continues to foolishly support Trump the loser. A loser who
will likely cost them more elections.

Trump's tax records have been made available for investigation of criminal activity,
but we can expect Trump will claim he is a victim of a witch hunt,  just as he  has
about  every investigation over  the past 4 years while president. This claim of being a victim
is designed to gain sympathy from his supporters. Supporters he has convinced to
believe any lie he chooses to tell them.

Unfortunately the far right media has sided with Trump, likely because he is willing to
support much of the changes they wish to see for the country. The trouble is the far
right is controlled by the corrupt super rich who want a government much the same
as Russia, with it's oligarchs controlling the economy.

Unless our legal system is able to hold Trump accountable for criminal activity, I fear
he could destroy our democracy attempting to gain total control of our government.
Already his supporters threaten to destroy the capital during president Biden's state
of the union address. This will likely fail, but the threat puts those members of
government at personal risk. All I can say is if successful a lot of the dirty GOP members
who support Trump will be lost as well. 

I hope people in this country learn from the problems Texas suffered during the
terrible cold last week. It is a very good example why private industry who worries
more about profit than planning for weather extremes, can cost people lives and
property. Not only that, but a lot of money industry wants the public to pay to cover
their mistakes. Mistakes the GOP was happy to allow industry to make. People should
remember this when they vote, because the GOP is glad to look the other way anytime
big business pays them to do so.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 02, 2021, 12:20:49 pm

Sorry about the text layout being so messy. My vision is getting very poor.

The GOP is wanting to do away with fair elections. Instead of running with policies the
public will vote for, they want to keep people who like Democrats from being able to

vote. That way they can get elected even though they don't do anything but cut taxes
for their rich friends, and do little or nothing for the public good. 

Nearly every state under GOP control is wanting to make it  harder for minorities  to
vote. Why we might ask? They claim too many people are voting for Democrats.
Especially people of color. Even without serious reports of fraud, none even

claims of fraud conservative judges and the conservative supreme court failed to see,

the GOP continues to claim they must change voting laws in over 30 states to prevent
this fraud no one can find evidence for.

The supreme court is about to rule on these changes that GOP states want to make.
If the court rules to allow these changes, it will mostly destroy the voting rights of
all Americans. Especially those of minorities. If Democrats don't get rid of the filibuster
rule, the GOP will never approve laws to protect voting rights, especially for people
of
color. Because they know their votes would remove many current GOP members from office.


The GOP, when asked about domestic terrorism, want to point to leftist attacks
which

are few, and not nearly as violent as those of the far right extremest.
When president
Trump was asked about white terrorist groups, he nearly always
wanted to point to
leftist groups, apparently wanting to protect white extremist who gave him their
support, and most GOP members who

like Trump, follow his lies about the left and Democrats.

I fear by the time their voters wise up, it will be nearly impossible to restore democracy.
The GOP politicians will likely continue using lies about religion, abortion, the LGBT, and
immigration, to keep their voter base happy and voting for them.

As expected Trump spread his usual lies while speaking at CPAC. 
Just as phony as
the blow up statue of him there. Some one should have flown the Trump baby balloon
outside the convention center. That would have been a better representation of him,
because he is always crying about something.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 04, 2021, 12:59:08 pm

GOP politicians are wanting to remove mandates that protect the public from spreading
covid19. They apparently expect to gain votes by allowing people and businesses to
return to  normal activity.  This of course puts the public at risk, but as usual many in
 the GOP care little for the public good. Especially when they want votes.

The GOP claim they want partisanship, but it has nothing to do with compromise,
because it's just a ploy to prevent the passage of bills that  would keep the GOP
from using their lies to keep control of the country.

I fear the Democrats don't have the guts to use the power given to them to pass laws
the public elected them to do, and by not standing up to the GOP, many people who
voted for Democrats may feel there is little good to vote as the Democrats won't fight
for the changes they want anyway. I think this is one reason the GOP, even as a
minority party keep the power they have. They fight for power even if they have to use
lies to keep it, and a lot of people support fighters. This is likely the reason so many
voted for Trump. A man who was happy to use lies in his fight for money and power.
You can be sure he will continue to do so.

It appears the GOP is trying to copy Trump, with the bald faced lies they continue to
tell. They seem to think if Trump got by wit it, why not us. I am not sure they will get
by with it. Trump could sell refrigerators to Eskimos, and smile while taking their last
dollar. This is why he is a good politician.  Trump has a mind that feels he must be the
first to cheat, because he expects  others to cheat him. So where others 
might have to plan to cheat, Trump does it  without thinking. In fact he would likely
have to think to keep from telling a lie. This is the big reason he never wants to be under oath in a court of law. Because he would likely lie himself into jail.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 05, 2021, 12:58:50 pm
 

A senator from Indiana claims his state is doing just fine without the Biden relief
bill, other than some money for unemployment assistance. One might wonder if
his state would be willing to have their state cut to reduce the size of the relief bill?
Somehow I think the loss of the $1400 would be very unpopular with the sate
population, or the population of any other state.

It's mostly big business that is against giving aid of any kind to the needy. Many of
them claim they made it okay, but forget success is more due to good fortune and not
just hard work that they like to claim. For every success there are untold numbers that
fail mostly due to misfortune. If Trump hadn't had a family fortune to fall back on, he
would be an unknown has been by now.

The GOP is against statehood for Porto Rico, Washington DC, and other territories
because most would be supportive of Democrats. Since the GOP is just hanging on
to  power, the last thing they want is more voting Americans in support of the
Democrats. So it will take either doing away or modifying the filibuster rule in the
senate to pass bills the GOP is against.

This rule is a hangover from the post civil war years when the GOP needed help as
a minority to have any control in the senate. There are proposals to modify the rule to
make it's use more difficult. Requiring members to be in full attendance to hold the 60
votes required to stop it. Also requiring the filibustering senator to do it all by him or
herself. I have a hunch some of those senators in their 80's would not like having to
stay in attendance for hour after hour while a fellow senator rambles on and on. I bet
their old body would get very sore just sitting there. I kind of think the GOP would
not want to use this rule near as much with those changes in effect, and likely would be
willing to compromise in stead.  Perhaps even to ad a state or two to the country.

The Democrats have the votes to change the rule, if they don't you can be sure the
GOP will continue to block legislation to please the cult of Trump, and their success
will cost votes for the Democrats and likely eventual control of the government.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 05, 2021, 05:48:25 pm
Same republican trick. The idea is to get people talking about how they are lifting regs on Covid instead of how they are undermining democracy by implementing voting restrictions. Again. The republican party willingly puts American lives in danger. Just for politics.

Yes, there is a real danger in free money. Historically proven fact. Can this cause an economy collapse? Yes. Would a few thousand for every American harm the American economy? No. However continued relief bills will start to damage the economy. This circumvents the idea of product. Think of it like a circle with dots on it's line. Each dot represents a product. The line going from either direction from the dot represents both profit and cost. Cut this and it's like a back account that's only going in one direction. The flow is what makes an economy. So a back account with 0 is just as bad as one with billions. This is why the "New Deal" worked. Basically hire one man to dig a hole and another to fill it. Someone had to buy the shovel. It's more complicated than that. But the point is it works. Personally I would rather see something more along the idea of the "New Deal" than more relief bills.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 07, 2021, 12:15:20 pm

Yes too much free money is bad for the economy, but big tax cuts that make it hard for
the government to work for the public good is bad as well. I don't think president Biden
has any plans to push for more hand outs. He is working to get the country vaccinated so people
can get back to work. I just hope the GOP who appears to be trying to throw a wrench in
this, fail, or we could see a lot of suffering for the public yet.

I just wish the GOP would stop their lies and really work for the public good, and the economy.
Ever since the days of  president Reagan  they have been working for the rich, and not for the
middle class who did more for the country than the rich ever have.

The GOP cry "If we can't limit voting we can't win." This is stupid, a child could tell them
how to win. Just work for the people and you will win. Oh yes, the GOP politicians know
very well how to win votes, but they don't want to work for the people. They want to
work for their rich big business friends that give the GOP millions to help them stay in
power. That is why they voted against the covid19 relief bill. Every last  one of them.

They didn't care that over 60% of their voters wanted it to pass. They don't care that
60% wanted the increase in the minimum wage. They only want to please Trump,
his cult, and his rich friends. So they lie, and mislead their voters in stead of working
for them.

If the Democrats ever get their act together, and really fight to win, the GOP will be in
serious trouble. Because there aren't enough hard line GOP voters to keep them in
office. This is why they work hard to win in states, because it's power in the states
that keep them in power at the federal level. The GOP knows if they vocally support
policies their hard line voters want, they will get their votes, every time.

Since Trump was elected in 2016 they have had losses they never expected. So with
Trump's loss, and the senate, they are running scared, and working all the harder to
make it even more difficult for Democrats to defeat them. Not by working for the
people, but by passing laws they hope will stop the voters of color they fear.

They don't care that the constitution gives every citizen the right to vote. They get
around this by passing laws that make it more difficult to vote, and make it count. This
is why the GOP put judges in courts that will be favorable to what the  GOP wants, and
with a supreme court that will likely favor conservative policies voting isn't likely to be
any easier.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 08, 2021, 02:09:19 pm
Voting rights Georgia's new bill. I read part of it. So what they are doing is going to the same stuff we already have in Missouri. I looked into absentee voting before this last election. I would have to be physically confined by heath issues. But still be able to get out and get my vote notarized. So I would have to be physically and restricted health wise but still be able to get to a public place and have my vote notarized. So the republicans in Georgia are making it as hard as the republicans in Missouri have made it for years now. This bill doesn't target anyone. It isn't even aimed at restricting voting. It's an attempt to make sure there is no voting fraud. It a republican bill to replace an older republican bill. What  they are saying the republican party's last bill made it easier for voter fraud. So if you use critical thinking its easy to come up with this. The republican party knows there's voter fraud because they made it possible. And now they are fixing their mistake. 

This is just another example of left wing media hype. It would be nice if folks would just stick to the news.

The republican party is a complete mess. It's not just Trump. And right now they are trying to fix the mess they made of themselves. But still show they don't care about the individual American.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 09, 2021, 12:26:31 pm

The GOP is passing laws in states they control to limit voting  by people in stead of
making it easier. There isn't enough fraud to worry about anyway, they should be worried
about getting people out to vote in stead.
Some of them are changing  laws the GOP made in the first place to make it easier for
people to vote,  but when they  saw people of color using these very laws the GOP
decided they weren't needed any more. Claiming they are only wanting to make voting
more secure. This is obviously due to losses by the GOP in 2020, because if these
changes were really  needed, they would have been changed years ago.  Personally
I think voting is too restrictive in Missouri, It's hard enough to get people out to vote as is.
If it was up to  me, voting would be required by law, because too few people  vote.

Trump is apparently  needing money, because he is telling his supporters to sen money
to his political action committee, and not to the GOP. His supporters should ask him
why he as a multi billionaire needs their money? They should remember when he ran
in 2016, he claimed to have nearly 10 billion dollars, but soon after he began to hold
his hand out for money. Sadly he has convinced them he has earned any and all
money they are willing to send him. Typical of a con man who is happy to take money
any way he can. It's a shame they believe him, because he personally cares nothing
for them.

Two women were increased to the rank of a 4 star general in the military. These women
were approved for their new rank last fall, but this was kept secret, because they  didn't
want Trump to know, for fear he would object, because of his disrespect for women,
and people of color. 

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 11, 2021, 01:04:42 pm

Sorry about the messy text, vision  bad for this bunny.

Well the GOP controlled states are still up to no good.  Arkansas  just passed a bill
against abortion. Even for rape or incest, only allowing it to save the life of the fetus,
These radicals apparently consider women as being expendable. For some reason they
consider the life of the fetus being above all else. To me if they punished a woman as
well as the doctor it would at least be more reasonable. But of course this might cause
women to not vote for the GOP, not doing this makes the whole law hypocritical. Some
claim this law was passed to get the supreme court to declare abortion illegal nation
wide. Personally i think  by not including rape and incest may give the court an excuse to
not allow this law to stand. Only time will tell.

Personally I am not a fan of abortion, but laws like the one in Arkansas is a crime
against women for being women. Some how I think if the GOP tried to passed a law 
making  sex illegal except for reproduction. It would never pass due to it involving men
in stead of only women.

The GOP continue to prove they have no shame. instead of trying to help fix
the problem with the large number of kids coming  across the boarder with Mexico, they
are claiming  president Biden is at fault for opening the boarder with Mexico. If he closed it
they would make a big deal out of it,  even though they said nothing when 
Trump force  the kids to stay in Mexico to live in squalor, and if he did let them
in, he put them in cages to sleep on concrete under a tin foil blanket. 

Yes many would just call this politics, but the mistreatment  of

people as kids often 
turns them into future terrorists. We need friends, not people who  hate us, and the
GOP  should know this. If they don't they should be removed from office.

It was the help we gave Europe after the second world war that has kept the peace
  for many years,  Not only that it made many of  them friends as well.

The poor treatment  of Germany after the first  world war helpdd  put Hitler in power, who
started the next war. It seems people never learn from the teaching of history.
and doom us all to repeat it. I fear one day this defect of man will destroy us all.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 11, 2021, 01:59:15 pm
Old Rabbit. Your leaving out the real horror of the Trump administrations actions with Mexican children. Not only did he separate these kids from their parents. But he bused them off to stay in faster homes wile busing the parents back to Mexico. The Biden administration is still cleaning up that mess. Trying to re unite these kids back with their parents.

Looking into more of the GOP backed voting bills. Most are ridiculous at beat. The ones that are not needed are,
Closing polls down earlier? Why? This has no effect on anything. Companies are required to give employees time to vote. It's illegal for any company to charge late or early leave for voting.
Restricting early voting times. How would this effect an election? This is a joke.
Sending out notifications to those who get automatic mail in ballets and haven't voted in four or five years. Apparently GOP led cities and towns are to stupid to read. it is real easy to find out who's still alive.
Restricting allowed times for mail in ballets. All this will do is make procrastinators move a little faster. If you wait till the day after an election to go to a voting station your vote wont count either. This is also a joke.

The above measures are nothing more than the GOP circus dancing around Trump's lies about the last election. They are pandering to the stupid and the brainwashed.

The one measure that is unconstitutional in all respects.
Requiring mail in voters to send proof of residence, copy of a bill or bank statement. If they only required your voting registration card then it would be fine. As long as your state sends you a new one every election. The state of Missouri does this. This is a voting restriction. If you are living with someone and don't have bills or a back account you can't vote. If your homeless you can't vote.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 12, 2021, 01:03:27 pm
I am glad, mr rat,your taking the time to mention more of ex-president Trump's dirty work. I would mention more myself,  but
there is so much of it, it's best to divide it up. Besides even writing some of it leaves me feeling a bit disgusted.

At least our new president is refreshing to listen to. Yes he has his faults, but at least he cares enough to work for the people, even if they aren't liberal Democrats.

I guess most heard the talk show idiot who bad mouthed women in the military. About all it showed is that he
could run for the GOP nomination for president and  likely get it.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 13, 2021, 12:15:46 pm

A year ago when covid19 began to cause serious problems for the country, Trump
started calling it the China virus. Unfortunately the far right and extremists followed
Trump's lead and began attacking Asian Americans. While Trump didn't come out and
tell people they should attack Asians, still his rhetoric encouraged it. As usual Trump
made little effort to stop it. Seemingly afraid it would cost him support from the far
right if he did.

Now that the covid19 relief bill has passed, some GOP members are acting like they
voted for it. Even though none did, not even one. Now when they run in 2022, win they
ask voters to re-elect or vote for them. What will they say when they want to effectively
raise taxes by undoing child credits for families? This will give Democrats a lot to talk
about when they run to defeat the GOP in 2022. This bill has 75% approval by the
American public, over 60% by GOP voters. So the GOP are going to have to be very
careful, because even the cult of Trump isn't likely to save them as it hasn't done
much to help anyone but Trump in the past.

While it is true a large part of the relief bill wasn't about covid19 directly, it went a long
way to give help and aid for people that the GOP worked to do a way with over time.
They claim to be for small government, yet they give big handouts and tax cuts to the
richest Americans, while turning their back on the needy.

Now the GOP wants to do away with the estate tax. A tax that only affected 1900
people last year, and 90% of those who are rich who would like to see that tax go
away. If the  GOP  really wanted to help, they could exempt the tax for those families
who have to  sell a  farm just to pay the estate tax. Especially if they wanted to continue the 
operation of the farm. As is many family farms have to be  sold every year just to pay
the estate tax.

The GOP is complaining about all the unaccompanied kids coming into the country.
Most of the GOP supporters who are complaining are hypocrites, because they claim to
care about the unborn kids, yet they are ready to send desperate kids trying to enter the
country back where many would face abuse and death.

 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 15, 2021, 01:30:00 pm

 
It seems to me the leaders of the GOP want to turn this country into a fascist
state. To keep total power over the  government, and minorities who don't
agree with their far right radicalism. This is a change from the past, where the GOP was a
conservative center right body who largely  supported the middle class. A
party
who

tried to maintain  a capitalistic, free market society. I fear the upper class has gained

so much control, they want to use the GOP to take full control of the country.

They see the country moving toward socialism, and likely fear the loss of their vast
wealth to the masses. People they feel will destroy the country, in favor of socialistic policies that will make it impossible to gain vast wealth in the future.

I am sure many people think they should have a right to be super rich, but when you
allow people to gain vast wealth it upsets the economy. Also those with this kind of wealth often use it as a way to hold power over the masses.

This is the very reason Unions have been created. To give power to those who other
wise would be stepped on by their employer. This isn't just about money, as many
times people are treated unfairly, and need to let their employer know they can't get
by with it.

The GOP has been working for years to get rid of Unions, and because of that they are
down to just 6% of the nations work force. I understand Unions are coming back,
perhaps we need to use a similar idea to put good people in government.  I know
Unions used to encourage voting for politicians who supported them. This is the big
reason the GOP are against Unions. Of course big business would like to see them go
as well.

The GOP is looking for  anyway they can to make president Biden look bad. He isn't a
woman, or  black, so they are having trouble finding anything to attack him on.  This
is likely why they have chosen to attack the influx of children crossing  our southern
boarder  in hope it will lower his popularity. While it is true the Biden administration is
having some difficulty in dealing  with the large numbers, but we can be sure the only
reason the GOP is talking about it, is to hurt the president, and not help the children.
You can be sure the far right media will be following along to give the GOP a way to stir
up their voting base.

Already over 30GOP  states are trying to pass 250 laws to make voting more difficult and less fair for people wih less income. Not only that they want their voters to think
they are making voting more secure against those who vote for democrats. The last
thing the GOP want their voters to think,is that their vote might not be enough to win for
them. An Arizona state congressman actually implied that
people of color aren't smart enough to be allowed to vote.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 18, 2021, 12:29:42 pm

Even though the GOP is claiming the latest surge of unaccompanied children is due to
president Biden. When asked these kids claim they know nothing about any  immigration
changes by our president. They claim they are looking for safety and a
better life.

This is proof the GOP is telling lies about most of these children,  hoping voters will
turn against Biden, and other Democrats. It seems for the last 40 years the GOP  has
been using lies to win elections instead of working for the public good.

While it's not uncommon for politicians to lie and mislead people. It seems the GOP
feel it's the only way they can win, and for the last decade or so they have been
working to limit voting by the poor and disadvantaged. They claim it's to reduce the
size of government, but evidence shows it's more about power and helping the rich get


richer than any thing else.

President Biden had a goal of vaccinating 100 million people in his first 100 days. It
seems the GOP hoped he would fail, but now that it appears vaccinations will greatly
exceed his goal, they are claiming it was Trump who made it possible for this to
happen. Even though Trump did little or nothing but complain and lie during 2020. The
GOP continue to support the worst president this country ever had.

The GOP continue to be against gun safety, even though the public is for it. Polling
shows over 90% in favor of this. The GOP continue to follow NRA, and manufactures
of firearms to keep receiving the money they get from them. Much of the support from
the GOP depends on how much money  you give them. This dependence on money to
get elected could be made a lot less, but the GOP doesn't want to make it easier for the
average American to run for political office. They want to keep it so people have to be
millionaires to have a good chance to be elected to office. Because rich people are more
likely to follow the policies of the GOP, than the average American.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 20, 2021, 12:59:43 pm

It seems the GOP is becoming more open with their racism, and willingness to go after
the support of racists as Trump does. The worst is their support of white supremacy,
people who hate anyone but white skinned people. It would be bad enough to not like
people of color, but many are willing to kill them. In the past GOP support of this dark
side of humanity was kept to themselves. But when Trump was elected, the GOP has
decided they can be open with their hate, as Trump has chasing the support of anyone
who will give him their support. No matter what they believe.

This sickness spread by Trump, and now the GOP, will likely come back to bite them,
because the majority of people are against hate, and will turn against those who do.
So far the lies by the far right media is covering up the truth, but when people learn the
facts, those using hate to gain power will lose, and will have to hide, trying to cover up
their shame. I fear there will be much suffering by the innocent, before the truth can
put an end to those willing to do anything for power, and money.

It's unfortunate, but many people are willing to believe the lies by people they like.
Instead of finding the truth they allow them selves to be led like sheep by con artists
who know how to manipulate people. It happens every day, even when people are
warned by those who know.

I fear as racial diversity increases over the next several years, Many white people will
do terrible things to oppose the rule by people who don't look like them. Much as many
men dislike having a woman for a boss. This shift will take time and I expect there will
be much suffering by the innocent before people learn to get along with other races, if
they ever do.

It's sad people let the appearance of others affect them the way it does. Sometimes I
wonder if people were blindfolded and put in a group of people of various races, what
would they think put in the same group without blindfolds later. Would it change
anyone. It might some, but probably not many. People tend to learn hate when growing
up, and it's hard to change them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on March 21, 2021, 08:13:23 pm
It's official. Trump plans to start his own social media platform so he can shoot his mouth off even more.  :P >:(

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/21/media/donald-trump-social-media-network/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 22, 2021, 01:23:52 pm

Yes Kobuck, Trump must have his audience to feed his ego. Hopefully his support will fade, but a voice on
social media may keep him going.

The GOP used to be against Russia, but now they want to copy their political system.
One which is more like an autocracy. With basically total  control of the government and
the people with an autocratic president, and rigged elections.

The GOP members of congress are trying to copy Trump with their disrespect of people
who don't agree with them. Then when they are called out for this disrespect, they
pretend to be victims. Just like their hero Trump did as president.

The GOP is pointing to the Mexican boarder, claiming the large influx of immigrants is a
 disaster created by president Biden. These claims by the GOP are mostly lies,
because the only difference is his returning to a humanitarian policy. Where Trump
force these people to stay on the Mexican side of the boarder, where they faced terrible
treatment by the criminal element there. The Biden administration is working to let
these people stay with relatives or volunteers  where possible until a decision can be
made to allow them to stay or not. At this time mostly kids are allowed to cross the
boarder, but once the mess Trump created can be undone, adults will be allowed to
cross the boarder and stay with relatives or supporters till a decision can be made for
them as well.

In the meantime the GOP is going to call this a disaster, trying to make the president
look bad. Because most of their voting base supported Trump's inhuman policies
toward immigrants. Mostly due to their ignorance, and we know the GOP isn't going to
try to help them see the truth.

Both the GOP and Trump want the public to believe the Democrats are against law and
order by de funding the police. This is a lie, the Democrats want to improve law enforcement
by requiring police to treat all citizens equally, and only use force when
it's unavoidable. Currently too many in law enforcement see all non whites as a danger
to their lives, and use deadly force even when it's not called for.

As president Trump called for using forceable tactics by the police. All this does is
make the police look threatening, especially to people of color. The police is supposed
to serve the public, not treat people like criminals on sight. It appears the police are
trained to be street fighters instead of protectors of the public. Yes police work can be
dangerous, but when the police puts it's own safety over that of the public. They turn
into hired guns.

People should have no reason to fear the  police. If they do the police can't properly
 protect the public from real criminals.  A policemen should be our friends, someone
we can approach unafraid when we need help. The color of our skin or clothing should
not affect how we are treated. Police can be trained to recognize danger by the way
people act. In the past when police walked the streets instead of riding in police cars.
they made friends and  had the respect of the public. Being in a car they can't earn the
respect of young people or make friends.

Seems today it's survival training instead of training the police to work for the public
good. This isn't to  say all police treat people with disrespect. But when training is more
about survival than caring for the public,  it's no wonder we see so many police killings.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 24, 2021, 12:57:49 pm

The GOP have no interest in passing immigration reform now or ever. Because if they
did, it would take away one of the main reasons people vote for the GOP. This is the
main reason Trump started his campaign as being against immigration, and to build a
wall along the boarder. Because he knew this would gain him a lot of support within
the republican party.

The party leadership have known for years that many people fear immigration, thinking it will make it harder to find jobs. When in reality most immigrants take jobs most
Americans don't want. The big danger in not solving immigration in this country is due
to the aging of the work force. Without steady immigration this country will shrink in size
and it's ability to maintain it's leadership in the world.  Increasing our dependence on
other nations for our survival.


Another  shooting for the GOP to ignore.  I  doubt if they  ever will care  how many
 people die, as long as they continue to please the NRA. Yes the NRA, because the
majority of Americans want gun safety, and to make assault type firearms and large
magazines illegal to own. 

The NRA is against any safety measures for firearms. They claim any change to limit
firearms will spell the end of legal gun ownership in this country. In reality,they are just
out to protect firearm manufactures, and the power it gives them.

While It is true laws won't prevent some shootings, but it can make it more difficult for people to go on a shooting spree due to rage, or due to mental problems. Many
deaths due to firearms is due the  lack of gun safety. Guns can be made safer, but the
NRA has stood against laws requiring manufactures to do so. Until people vote to
remove those standing against needed laws to help protect people from the improper 
use of firearms, we will all be at risk.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on March 28, 2021, 11:23:06 pm

I think the Grand Old Party has lost sight of democracy. The Georgia legislature lost it
when they made it illegal to hand people food or water while in line to vote. Not only that they voted to over ride local elections if they don't  like the results.
 The GOP has claimed they can't win if they make it easier to vote. This is nonsense as
all they have to do is work for the public, and quit supporting the radical element in the
country. People who if they had their way would like to use the Bible as our constitution.

When asked a GOP congressman said they weren't keeping people from getting food and water, because there will be stations where people can get food and water. Of
course he didn't promise people wouldn't be sent to the back of the line when they step
out of line to get a drink or bite to eat.

The GOP must feel very insecure if they fear voters who are willing to stand in line for
hours can be easily convinced to vote for Democrats just to get a drink. I am sure people visit with each other while in line. We might ask if the GOP plans to put voters in
jail for asking the time of day?

The GOP must realize changing the laws to help them win elections is un  American.
This smacks of authoritarianism, and I feel Trump is at the bottom of this. And I do
mean BOTTOM. I wouldn't be surprised if when Trump talked to authoritarian leaders if he wasn't convince that authoritarian government is the best. Especially with him at
it's head.

Trump is still up to no good with his claims the invasion of the capital was a hug fest.
He knows if you say something often enough people will start to believe it. So he will
continue with his lies as long as people are ignorant enough to listen. I wouldn't be
surprised if he claims the videows showing the attack were created by the leftest
Democrats, though he probably has already.

Trump wants to run for president again, and if he loses, which he likely will, we can
expect the same claims of voter fraud from him. So the GOP is passing laws to make
it too expensive for many people of color to vote. Requiring voter ID which in my state
cost $10 and a trip to a license office to get. I imagine most people who vote for the GOP have the extra money, but for a person living on a
limited income, or handicapped may not be able to get a ID card made, and they sure
don't have the resources to go to court. The GOP know this will likely keep
 thousands from voting. A  GOP state congressman made the claim that many people
shouldn't vote, because they are too ignorant. That is just a step away from requiring
people to be property owners to vote. Something I am sure the GOP would love to do
if they could get by with it.

The GOP doesn't want anyone who might vote for Democrats to vote. Since many
people of color and others who are in need of aid,do vote for Democrats, the GOP
works to either mislead them or pass laws that makes it harder for them to vote. The
one thing the GOP hates the most if taxes on themselves or their rich supporters. Now ,
no one likes higher taxes, but to ignore the needy will cost more in the long run. Not
counting needed repairs and improvements on our infrastructure. Left undone will cost
not only money, but lives.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 02, 2021, 12:49:34 pm

When the GOP voted for their big tax cut, a cut that just happened to save Trump and
their rich big business supporters millions in taxes. They claimed it would add 5 or 6%
to the economy, but ended up only adding about 2% instead. Now that President Biden
wants to increase taxes on big business by about 7% the GOP is claiming it will
increase  costs to the public  and cause businesses to leave the country. This is very
misleading, because most foreign countries would have higher taxes than the 28%
the president wants to set taxes for corporations.

The GOP apparently isn't interested in the presidents infrastructure bill. A bill that will
likely create millions of good paying jobs for Americans. Even though millions of
Americans currently need jobs, and our infrastructure is in dire need of repairs.   
In the past the GOP would favor infrastructure bills, but it seems now all they want

to do is block the Democrats, in spite of the nations needs.

As usual the GOP lie to both reduce taxes, and when the Democrats wish to
increase
taxes so corporations and the rich will be required to pay a fairer amount,
they lie again hoping to save themselves and their rich friends a lot of money.

Moscow Mitch, the GOP minority leader of the senate is claiming a tax increase  would
be bad for the economy.  Typically the GOP always claims tax increases are
bad, and decreases are good, even though economists not in the pocket of the GOP
tell a different story.  When asked about money for infrastructure the GOP claim the
public should pay, because they are the main users of the infrastructure. They want to
forget that without the infrastructure, big business could not make the large sums of 
money they do.

Each time a large corporation  chooses a new location to do business at, they always
make sure the location has adequate infrastructure to handle the needed work.
This alone shows corporation should help pay to build and maintain the infrastructure 
they need and use. No matter what the GOP claims.

The GOP fully understands economics, but their desire for money and power causes
them to ignore the needs of the people and the nation. So they lie and cheat to keep
the voting public in the dark. Then since Trump showed them his dirty tricks they 
appear to be copying him after seeing how well he did with his  constant stream of lies.

I have a hunch the GOP is afraid if Biden gets this infrastructure bill he wants passed, it
will wreck any chance they might have to regain control of the senate or the house.
Much less the White House. So we can expect lots of dirty tricks by the GOP between
now and the 2022 election. They are already working to limit voting by supporters of the
Democrats, any way they can.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 07, 2021, 12:57:38 pm

Across the nation, the GOP is working to pass well over 300 voting laws designed
to give them an advantaged during the next election.  They claim these changes are 
only to make our elections more secure. If this was the case, why did they wait so
long to make these changes?  Especially if their claims are the truth. The GOP claimed
 the changes made in Georgia are no different than in the state of  Colorado.  Turns out
this  is a lie, apparently told to mislead the public when a baseball
team moved to Colorado from Georgia due to the GOP's actions.

The GOP is claiming corporations should keep their  nose out of politics. Now isn't that
a laugh.  The GOP have been working for many years to please large corporations  just
to keep their political support. In fact Moscow Mitch went out of his way to create a
political   action  committee for the purpose of allowing big business to donate millions to
help  GOP members with their elections, so they would vote to pass laws that protect the
profits of those businesses.

Now the GOP is making threats that if big business doesn't support their new restrictive 
voting laws, they will make them suffer. This puts big business in a box, because the public
is likely to boycott  big business if they don't punish the GOP.

It's sad how the GOP treats the LGBTQ  community. The GOP is always glad to take
advantage of the public's ignorance if it will gain them votes, even if it involves hate.
Not only do many supporters of the GOP hate the LGBTQ, they don't like many minorities,
like African Americans, Indians, Jews, and most people who act or
look different, and especially those who have non christian religions.

If the GOP really cared about the nation, they would work to  bring our people  together
instead of dividing our people just to hold on to power. It's time we let those who
hate create a party of their own, and stop their infection of the GOP, a party
who once cared for the nation, but has allowed it's self to be taken over with
people who care more about themselves than our country. Especially Evangelical
leaders who have used the christian religion to gain power over the GOP and our
nation for their own benefit.

Not all Evangelical leaders are guilty of abusing their control over their followers.
I  could go into detail, but I am not into religion enough to preach, except to say most
good religions teach love, not hate. It is sad to see religious leaders break this rule and
teach their followers to hate those who think differently.  This abuse of religion has been
used many times down through history to hold on to power, and unfortunately has caused
many wars.  Sadly it's all based on human greed, so it's likely to continue as   greed is the
nature of mankind.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 10, 2021, 12:51:55 pm

The GOP continues to promote the politicization of Covid19. They are against  requiring
people to use masks, and other safety procedures to protect themselves and
those around them. They act like this is a terrible thing the Democrats want, as if it has
never been done before. The requiring of vaccination is nothing new. Scools have done
this for many years. Traveling to other countries almost always requires vaccinations.  Yet
the GOP is against any requirement to show proof of covid19 vaccination which would
assist the safe return to normal activity by the public at large.

It seems most states are doing little to provide covid19 protection to those in their
prisons. Especially those states run by the GOP. as if these people deserve to suffer
even more than they already do.

Most of this nonsense by the GOP was started by Trump. It seems the GOP, after   
watching Trump get by with his lies and not following rules can do the same thing
themselves. All you have to do is listen to them talk. They  sound just like a clone of
Trump, wanting to blaime everyone else for their troubles, and pretend to be a victim  of
the bad old Democrats.


As usual the GOP comes out against any restrictions affecting firearms. While it is true
laws do little to stop gun violence, background checks properly done should find
mental issues, and prior criminal activity. People who have mental issues should
not be able to  buy or own firearms. Even if medication helps, there isn't any guarantee
that the person will stay on their medication or see their doctor regularly.  Also there 
should be a waiting period for the legal purchase of firearms. Hopefully to prevent 
people from running out to purchase a firearm due to rage. Limits due to criminal
action would depend on what it was and when.

It seems the GOP want to let anyone buy or own a firearm, no matter their
mental condition or much of anything else.  Soon after the law expired that
prevented the sale
of assault weapons, the GOP refused to renew the law. Allowing huge numbers of
these weapons of war to be sold to the public. Apparently to please the NRA,
and weapons  manufactures they and the GOP support.  Of course the GOP hope
to gain votes from people who want to own assault weapons. People who seem to feel
they need them if the government was to fall. I rather doubt most would neither  have
 the training or the ability to survive long during a period of anarchy. Even with an assault
weapon, they would  likely do more harm than good.

Those who support the GOP best learn how to live with people of color, because by 2035 white
people will no longer control this nation. If they think they can start a civil war to change that
they best think again. Because people of color can use firearms as well as anyone else. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 12, 2021, 12:48:18 pm

The GOP ought to be singing their praise for the Democrat
senator from Virginia who is blocking changes to the filibuster rule, He is
claiming  laws passed by the senate
must be bipartisan, and by the senate rules. I don't know what pile  of crap he
is working under, but the GOP has no interest  in working with the Democrats, and he
should know after serving for years in the senate.  All the GOP want is to solidify 
their control over the government by packing the courts with judges that support GOP 
 desires and policies.

I think the GOP knows their support  by white America will end in about 20 years.
So by packing the courts with young conservative judges, they can keep control well
 beyond this cultural shift, since judges don't have to be elected or re-elected. I think
this is why the GOP always complain when Democrats put judges on courts, as it 
makes it harder for the GOP to control the courts with every judgeship they lose.

It's time this senator starts working for the country, in stead of wanting to
make a name for himself.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 15, 2021, 12:43:39 pm

There is a bill in the U S House  for police reform, but the GOP doesn't appear to support
it, especially in the U S senate. The so called law and order party (Namely the GOP) 
should be first to support equal treatment by the law, especially by law enforcement.
But apparently infection by Trump has caused the GOP to forget their conservative
values.

It seems even now that Trump is no longer president, members of the GOP think they
must kiss his backside to keep their job. So if he doesn't want them to support a bill,
they usually don't. Unless the GOP tell Trump to mind his own business, he will likely
cause the GOP to fail as a national party. I am no longer a fan of the GOP, but this
country needs at least two strong parties to have a good government.  Because
single party control can lead to extremism.

If there isn't a change in how the police treat people of color in this country
we will likely see quite a lot of trouble. People of color only ask to be treated with
the same respect as anyone else. When they can't even walk down a sidewalk
without being stopped for just being there, it's time for a change. Seems either by
training or state of mind many police treat people of color like wild animals.
 
While it is true some people  of color are  bad, but this can be said about any race of
 people. Seems a lot of people can't see past the color of a persons skin before they
decide what kind of person they are, or their intelligence for that matter. Many early
American settlers looked at all American Indians as being stupid or as killers. Just
because they had a bad experience with some. Even to some American Indians all
white people were bad. Just goes to show with
misunderstandings any race can fail to understand other races of
people, and their culture. It's unfortunate, but many people  look for
the bad in others before they are ready to see the good.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 18, 2021, 01:28:46 pm


The GOP is crying foul over the Democrats idea of increasing the size of the supreme court. Claiming the Democrats are trying to pack the court. This hypocritical claim by the GOP would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. It has been the goal of the GOP for
many years to have a conservative majority on the high court. In 2015 the GOP controlled senate refused to consider a moderate judge for the court, with the claim it
was too close to the next election to do so. Then in 2020 they voted to replace a justice during a very election they had previously  claimed was wrong to do.

The GOP being in the minority fear any gain by the Democrats. So they  use every dirty trick  to offset the majority power of the Democrats in any way they can. Over the last
four years with their control of the senate, and the White House, they have done little else but put conservative judges on federal courts.  This is being done so those conservative Judges can effectively change laws to benefit the GOP. By using the
courts, the GOP avoids the need to control the U S legislature to support big business
and their rich friends.

President Biden has put sanctions on Russia due to their interference in our
political process, and for stealing government and business information via the
internet. Of course they deny all this,  but we have good evidence to prove it.

When Trump was president, it seemed Russia could do no wrong. At least according
to Trump. I kind of think Trump felt if he was nice Putin would be. This just shows how
ignorant Trump was when it came to diplomacy.
 His own lawyer said Trump was too lazy to run a business, much less the  White House. The trouble with Trump is he enjoys having the title, but has no real interest
in doing the work. Oh he loves the crowds that cheer for him, and being in the spotlight,
but that is about all.

I think people  should serve at least one term in the U S House, and one in the senate
 before they can run for  the office of president. I am sure the founders didn't expect a
man like Trump to run for  president, much less win, or they would have required a background in government   service to be eligible for the office. No neophyte like Trump has any business being the  president of the United States.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on April 18, 2021, 02:53:57 pm
The GOP is crying foul over the Democrats idea of increasing the size of the supreme court. Claiming the Democrats are trying to pack the court. This hypocritical claim by the GOP would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. It has been the goal of the GOP for
many years to have a conservative majority on the high court. In 2015 the GOP controlled senate refused to consider a moderate judge for the court, with the claim it
was too close to the next election to do so. Then in 2020 they voted to replace a justice during a very election they had previously  claimed was wrong to do.

I've greatly enjoyed seeing the GOP sweating but a cornered animal is dangerous. It's hilarious they cry foul and cheat while at the same time cheating in every possible way they can and not even being secret about it.



President Biden has put sanctions on Russia due to their interference in our
political process, and for stealing government and business information via the
internet. Of course they deny all this,  but we have good evidence to prove it.

When Trump was president, it seemed Russia could do no wrong. At least according
to Trump. I kind of think Trump felt if he was nice Putin would be. This just shows how
ignorant Trump was when it came to diplomacy.
 His own lawyer said Trump was too lazy to run a business, much less the  White House. The trouble with Trump is he enjoys having the title, but has no real interest
in doing the work. Oh he loves the crowds that cheer for him, and being in the spotlight,
but that is about all.

It's nice to have a president who won't let other countries run roughshod over us. Trump was all about cozying up to dictators, likely because he wanted to turn the US into a dictatorship as well and be president for life so he could sit easy and pretty being a figurehead while the GOP ran everything from the shadows. Thing is, Putin and other dictators aren't incompetent fools who just hold office while someone else runs everything. They're ruthless, cold hearted people who put on a smile for everyone.

But never forget the 48th Rule of Acquisition: The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.

Trump was fooled by those smiling facing and their accolades, like a little kid who wants in big brother's club house and thinks they'll get in by doing everything the big kids tell him to do, Trump pretends he's a ruthless, masterful, skilled chess player but I don't think he could win a game of checkers.



I think people  should serve at least one term in the U S House, and one in the senate
 before they can run for  the office of president. I am sure the founders didn't expect a
man like Trump to run for  president, much less win, or they would have required a background in government   service to be eligible for the office. No neophyte like Trump has any business being the  president of the United States.

And yet there's still people who love this egoist and want him in charge...

"Trump should run the country" He doesn't seem like he could run a bath.
"Trump is the man to lead America." I doubt he could lead a parade.
"Trump is the only one who can save us." The man can't even save a dollar!

And yeah, I know that idiot isn't funny and his tenure as president was a nightmare that we're still dealing with but I have to make jokes. To quote Hawkeye from M*A*S*H -- "Joking about it is the only way of opening my mouth without screaming."
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 25, 2021, 12:18:36 pm

The GOP continues to blame president Biden for the high numbers  of immigrants
crossing our boarder with Mexico. Our country needs more immigrants, not fewer.
Thousands of jobs go wanting, especially agriculture related jobs. If left unfilled  crops are lost. This can cause food shortages and increases in costs for food.

If the GOP cared about anything but their political control of the government, they would
work with Democrats to improve immigration in our country. But no, they only
want to block his efforts to help restore our economy, and infrastructure, So far it seems
the GOP is running scared of the far right and Trump followers.  So unless they start
losing a lot of  elections  they won't change. They are changing election laws, but if large numbers of  voters come out again, many in the GOP could be out of a job.

Is the GOP trying to rig vote counts by hiring third parties to count ballots?  The GOP in the state of Arizona hired a third party to make a second recount with the hope of  showing Trump as the real state winner. This party is preventing all but one national
 new service to cover their recount. Already there is some evidence that either by
accident or purpose ballots are being corrupted. Once corrupted they can be thrown
out. We can only wonder  which vote ends up being tossed.  If by some chance
this recount ends up going for Trump. I think we can guess who's votes were tossed.

So far Trump is leading the cheering crowd over this attempt to change the vote.
It's obvious he intends to continue his lie about voter fraud to the bitter end.

It makes no  legal difference if the vote is changed, I think this is the GOP sucking up
to the far right, and Trump. I understand this is more about raising money than
anything else. The GOP apparently hopes by trying to help the far right and Trump,
it will bring in tens of millions in donations and thousands more votes.

It appears the GOP has no morals when trying to hold power. They  will lie and do
whatever it takes to win. It seems they really do believe all is fair in love war
and politics. With the GOP I think you can add business to that list.

It always seemed strange to me, when upper class retiring white
collar workers  move south into areas where people don't make
much money. They start demanding more public services that cause taxes to increase
for everyone.  This due to most people making minimum wage or less causes
them to lose homes and family farms. Of course these upper class  retirees
have a lot more money to spend than most working people in these rural
areas, so they hardly notice the increase while many go homeless.  Of course most
of these retirees generally vote for the GOP because they consider the needy as
being lazy and not deserving of help.

Though  we do need a police force now days, in the past the police was more
about race control than anything else. There were reports where if a white man  caused  damage to the property of a black man, the police arrested the black man
instead.  This race control by the police started  with requiring all white men to consider
any black as an escaped slave, and to either report or capture them.
In the north police went after undesirable immigrants as well.

After the civil war many areas used criminal complaints to justify the capture and 
enslavement of blacks. So it's likely many blacks were falsely accused and jailed.
This continued in the south till the middle of the 20th century, and even longer in some
areas.

This terrible history of police work in our past is likely the cause of  how people  of
color are treated by the police today.  When people train to be police officers they learn
under those who were trained by policemen of the past. So any bias or prejudice
they may have had would be passed along to the next generation of police.
This isn't to say all police are affected this way, but I am sure several are.

The foul treatment of people of color by the Police must stop, or the country is
in for a lot of trouble.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on April 25, 2021, 08:09:19 pm
The GOP is still relying on the three pillars of the Republican party.

Lies. "There is no systemic racism in America". "Covid vaccine is the mark of the beast" "Voter fraud is wide spread and we need reform" "Only well informed people should vote."
Poverty "The infrastructure plan is a waist of time and will not help the unemployed"
Suffering. "Herd immunity" "This pandemic is fake" "We don't need a new insurance plan. What we have is and will always work".

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on April 28, 2021, 07:07:20 pm
The stupidity of the GOP and right wing media never ceases to amaze me.  :P >:(

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/opinions/nonsense-from-right-on-biden-and-beef-filipovic/index.html

Hide your hamburgers, folks! The Democrats are going to take them away from you.  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on April 29, 2021, 04:04:17 am
The stupidity of the GOP and right wing media never ceases to amaze me.  :P >:(

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/opinions/nonsense-from-right-on-biden-and-beef-filipovic/index.html

Hide your hamburgers, folks! The Democrats are going to take them away from you.  :D
Is it just me or is it a bit refreshing to have the what the heck news be just sensationalized jibberish from the republicans again? As opposed to those odd four years where every what the heck moment from that side was an actual thing that actually happened.
I bet The Onion is so glad now that their dumbest ideas aren't coming true anymore.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on April 29, 2021, 01:04:07 pm

It seems the U S economy will grow over 6% this year.  Yet the GOP apparently  could
care less. Now if Trump was still president I am sure they would be shouting it to  the 
rooftops. We should remember when he was running for re-election he was claiming
if Biden won the stock market would crash. Something else the GOP isn't talking about
since the market is growing to greater heights than ever. All they want to claim is all this
spending by the Democrats will cause a  lot of inflation.

If the GOP really cared about peoples rights,and needs, there would be more women
and people of color in their party. As is it's mostly a party of greedy old
men in congress who think women and people of color should be their servants.

It seems the GOP use every means  to reduce  taxes for the rich and business every
 chance they get. Even  to take money from the needy to do so. They don't want the government to tax their supporters.

Some people in the GOP believe if we tax the rich, and big business too much there \

will be fewer jobs. This might be true in a few cases, but if infrastructure is allowed      to fail, so will jobs. Because to build businesses that create jobs takes good  infrastructure. Also many large businesses use tax savings to give out big bonuses \
to their executives, instead of raises for their workers, as the GOP wish to claim  with
their trickle down economics.

Besides most jobs in this country are created by small businesses, not large 
corporations that the stock market feeds.

The GOP depends on the public's ignorance to hold on to power while they
wheel and deal to gain  riches for their friends and themselves.  I am sure
many people that vote to elect the GOP think by doing so will help them gain
high paying jobs. Unfortunately this only works with the help of
a crooked business or congressman in most cases.

The only way to really be successful is through hard work and a fair amount of
good luck. Yes good luck, many people who have become wealthy have done so after
several tries, where through persistent they finally succeed.

President Biden want's to help women with  child care, as is many women can't afford
to put their  kids in child care and work too. So they have to apply for public aid. Seems
to me providing  money for child care  so women can work is the best way to go.   
Yet the GOP just complains about the cost to government while doing nothing at all.

If voters put the GOP back in control of the senate or the house in 2022 we can
be sure nothing will be done. All they want is more conservative federal judges.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 01, 2021, 01:08:48 pm

100 days, and president Biden has accomplished a lot. It's a shame the GOP is
working so hard against him. They seem to think by doing so will gain them votes in
2022 so they can retake control of congress and the senate. If they do we can be sure they will do nothing but complain about the presidents spending policies and little if
anything else.

 all they have been doing is blocking  Ever since the GOP won the senate in 2014,
they have been working against the Democrats. No partisanship, and when Trump
won the presidency they spent nearly all their time installing federal judges the fedeerlist society wanted. Judges that would support corporations over the average
working -citizen.

The GOP continues to holler socialism when the Democrats attempt to
provide aid to the needy. But it's just fine when the GOP votes to give aid to the rich
and big business. So for them it's just fine to use socialism for the wealthy, but
for the poor and the needy it must be capitalism or nothing.

I think it's odd when people want to run when they hear the word  socialism, but they
are fine with their socialist support of the police, fire department and school for the kids.  True socialism is where the government owns all properties and  runs all businesses.
Of course the GOP wants the public to think the Democrats want a form of communism
that will steal all  of our rights.  When it's the GOP who is out to steal our rights to benefit the rich. Now it would be great if we all could be rich, but that would never work,
because  there will  always be a need for workers, and many who want to take
advantage of them.

If the GOP is allowed to take over, this country will become an autocracy run by the
super rich. Much like Russia is today. Prisons will be filled by people who have tried to
fight for human rights, and those of us who speak out against the leaders.  All will be required  to conform, or face danger from extremists. I am sure many will think this
could never  happen here, but remember January 6. Riots like this can happen with
little or no  warning, and under an autocracy there would be little protection for the public.


President Biden has been trying to support the LGBTQ  people , but the GOP controlled
states have been stepping on the rights of Transgender young people. Claiming  by
preventing them from joining girls in sports they are protecting biologically born girls.
I think this is just an excuse on the part of the GOP wanting to gain votes with
their claims of being against  Transgender people as they are with nearly all in the LGBTQ community. 

The Democrats and the president are trying to support them over the hard line
wishes of the GOP for years. Sadly the voting base of the GOP seem to think their
religious believes should be put into law. Of course the GOP with their desire to
hold power want these people to think they will support their wishes. Both the GOP and
their voting base should remember our constitution doesn't allow religious groups to
run or control the country, even if they want to.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 05, 2021, 12:53:00 pm

The number of babies being born in this country is at a all time low. Almost 5 million
below what it should be as of last year. This is more proof we need more immigration.
 Otherwise  there won't be enough workers to keep the economy strong in years to come.  It seems Trump felt businesses could do as he does, importing workers as
needed, because he could save money that way. Personally I think businesses should
hire our own people instead.

Why the GOP want to follow Trump's advice seems strange to me. Seems to be
a foolish idea, if they want to grow as a party. Because the support of jobs for
Americans should be their priority. Unlike Trump who considers his bank account above
all else.

President Biden is going to be on the road for the next few weeks putting pressure on
politicians to pass his infrastructure bill. Even though there is big public support for it,
the GOP is claiming it's to costly. I think even if the president backed down, the GOP would come up  with another excuse because they don't want to give the Democrats a win that would   help them in the  mid term election.

 The GOP across the nation is working to slow voting by Democrats, especially   
those of color. Instead of trying to limit  voting they should be working to convince
more people to vote for the GOP. After all working to prevent voting is anti democratic, 
and downright un-American.  Especially if they continue trying to copy old man Trump.
A man who has spent his life using money and lies to gain an unfair advantage over others. It's unfortunate, but some people seem to think someone like Trump
is being smart, and think his way, is how to get ahead, which is very sad.

This could end up destroying the GOP in the end, because when people realize
they are following crooks, they will turn away. President Reagan convinced a lot
of people that big government was bad for the country. Unfortunately due to the
support   by the GOP Reagan was able to  change the tax structure in a way that
benefited big business and the richest Americans. This plan where by cutting taxes
for the rich would be passed along to the middle class.  "Trickle down economics"
never did anything but help the rich get richer.

Since the government had less money, the GOP started to cut social programs
for the poor and disadvantaged. Because if they didn't, taxes would need to be raised.
Something the GOP could never stomach. Because the GOP has aught to reduce
government, as they think if government is allowed to grow it will become to big
for the economy to support, and this would destroy the country.

I think this was a fear felt more by the rich than anyone else. History has shown
big government can destroy countries, and it's the rich who stand to lose the
most if a country fails. History shows it's the rich who start wars, not the average citizen, as the rich have the most to lose.

It's greed that destroys societies and countries, more than anything else.
It's unfortunate, but many in the GOP are controlled by Greed, and until they
give more consideration for our people, and our  country , we shouldn't
vote for them.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 07, 2021, 12:56:44 pm

It appears the GOP have lost sight of this country as a democracy. Unless of
course they win elections. Then they are fine with it.  Just like Trump, who likes the 
constitution only when it suits his purpose.  Lately the is claiming the social media 
online is breaking free speech. Even  though private enterprise isn't required to follow
that part of the constitution. Trump also complained when he found he couldn't sue
people or the news media for talking about him.  Trump loves control and hates it
when he doesn't have it.

Across  the nation GOP controlled states are passing  laws  that will make it more
difficult for blue collar workers and the disadvantaged to vote. Apparently  with the
hope it will reduce voting by people of color. Several years ago the GOP passed laws
so people could vote by mail. This was intended to increase  voting by republicans.
  which it did. But when large numbers of people of color decided to vote by mail,
Mostly Democrats, the GOP lost their advantage.  When Trump found out he told the   GOP they should limit voting by  mail in hope it would return the GOP's
advantage. Trouble is, this could backfire by reducing the number of republican votes by those  accustomed to voting by mail.

The supporters of old man Trump may think he will protect their rights and keep the
government from telling them what they must do. Well I have news for them, because 
as soon as Trump gains autocratic power he will forget about those who supported
him. They should pay attention to how he is treating the GOP. He is treating them like
a bunch of  puppets on a string. He  will do the same to his supporters once he gains
the power he wants. Trump plans to do the same thing Putin of Russia did to his
country. He will put his cronies in positions of power,  so he can do anything  he
wants, and those who try to oppose him will disappear or end up in prison.

People of color and the LGBTQ  could end up in forced labor camps. I am sure it
wouldn't be hard to convince a Trump controlled congress to support most anything
he would want, with the claim it's good for the country.

 Likely with orders from Trump the GOP is pushing to teach school kids a false history
 about the treatment of black people since the civil war. Likely with the hope to turn
more people against African Americans in the future. I am sure they are seen as
a threat to Trump's plans, after all it was people of color who cost Trump the
presidency. With another 4 years Trump with the help of the GOP could have gained a
third term in office, and possibly more under an autocracy.

I understand the GOP hopes to retake the house in 2022, then bring an impeachment
against president Biden, and try to use this to replace him with Trump, using the claim he was the true winner of the 2020 election.  Now this may not work, but even if
the GOP were to take the house, president Biden could do little of anything the GOP
under Trump's control didn't want.

Control of this country could end up in the evil hands of Trump and the GOP if they
win in 2022. This includes state elections as Trump seems to control the GOP across
the nation.  If they win more power in 2022, they could with control of the supreme
court, make it all but impossible to vote them out in 2024. I think we can be
sure the GOP will use the claim of fraud as Trump did for any close election they may
lose in the future. Just as they do in any autocracy.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com

www.investigaterussia.org

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 09, 2021, 01:29:04 pm

Under Trump the GOP calls the government  under control by the Democrats the
deep state. This is just more of Trump's misinformation to lead his supporters down the
garden path to an autocracy run by him.

The GOP far right whites are running scared. They see their control over people of color coming  to an end in the not too distant future. They see Trump's popularity as a
way to hold on to power. So they are fully willing to follow his immoral acts and support
his lies as a way to regain control of the federal government and the country.

I think the GOP is fully willing to give Trump autocratic control while they hold on to power in the background. This is a dangerous game they are playing,  Because Trump 
can be manipulated by Autocratic world leaders who pet his ego. Also he puts people
in power he trusts who in the past have proven in many cases they work to benefit
themselves instead of the government.  it's his ignorant acts that prove he has no
business being the leader of anything, much less the United States. Besides his mental
stability is questionable. Many Doctors have said he should be tested iindependantely, in spite of his claims that he has passed mental test with flying colors.

Trump holds on to his control of the GOP with threats to unseat any member of the
GOP with his support in the primaries for new legislator unless they support him
 without  question. Trump wants their support now, as he doesn't care if they supported
him in the past.  So he can have GOP members chasing their tails trying to keep up
with his every whim.

 It will be interesting to see if Trump tries to jump out ahead of the large number
of GOP members who plan to run for president in 2024. I am sure Trump would 
assume all he would need to do is run to get the nomination. No matter who else
decided to run against him, much less care.

www.msnbc.com
www.politico.com
www.investigaterussia.org
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on May 09, 2021, 03:32:02 pm
I"m going to be a wet blanket. After reading all the 'voter restriction' laws I've come to this conclusion.

Ballet drop boxes. Ballet drop boxes are for those who, for one reason or another, decide to drop off ballets instead of mailing them. If you get a mail in ballet fill it out and sent it back.  Don't wait till the last minute.

Partisan voting station watchers. So this means there's going to be one rep from every party standing around at a voting station? Or are we going to watch a bunch of four year olds wining because they didn't have one of their parting members at 'these locations' and that's why they lost. And who's going to represent the 'write in' voters?

Shortening voting times. There are a lot of laws that makes it easy for anyone to vote. And as long as your in line before the time is up your still able to vote.

So handouts of food or water to a person in a voting line. OK folks. This is a no brainer. You are not to be approached by anyone for any reason wile standing in a voting line. That's already a law. This is like saying "The speed limit is 20 MPH. Any vehicle traveling at a higher speed is breaking the law." Then passing a law saying " Any vehicle traveling and exceeding the limit between two posted MPH signs is breaking the law." Redundancy is stupidity.

One one side you have a party using lies to pass laws that do absolutely nothing. On the other side you have a party screaming voter suppression. Who's in the wrong? The party using lies to then lie to people about making voting more secure. This isn't voter restrictions. It lying. It's what republicans do. It's the only tool they have.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 12, 2021, 12:45:39 pm

The GOP may only be giving the appearance they are making voting more secure-with
the hope they can convince the voting public the Democrats are cheating. But it's still
 meant to confuse voters. Especially older or less educated people. Also this gives the 
appearance to their voting base they are trying to protect voting integrity, while  the
Democrats aren't.

Above all voting should be encouraged  by politicians, not discouraged. The GOP
seem to think the only way they can win is using dirty tricks instead of working to
convinbcepeople their way is best for the country.  Yes dirty tricks seem to be the
hallmark  of politics, but patriots should put their country first.

It seems some politicians think they themselves and their party are good for the
country, and only them. Good government requires more than one way of thinking
 Otherwise extremest ideas can be put into law. Which can lead to  civil war.

I have always felt voting should be treated the same as serving on a jury. Oddly
enough courts choose people for jury duty from voter registration lists. So some people
may not vote with the hope they won't have to serve on a jury.

Unlike many countries  the U S doesn't require people to vote. While it is true some
people really shouldn't vote due to not taking the time to understand who or what 
they should vote for. But perhaps if they were required to vote they might be more
interested.

 I am reasonably sure the GOP would oppose required voting since their party  is
in the minority of the population. They don't seem to be interested in convincing people
to vote based on policies. Instead they would rather use emotional reasons to get 
people out to vote for their candidates. Seems emotion is the only way to get some
people out to vote. Patriotism and voting seems to be lost to a lot of people.  It seems
Trump is trying to use patriotism, emotion, and policies all, to get enough votes. 
He may not be a good leader, but he  knows how a lot of people think. This is what
makes him a good salesman. It's a shame the man only cares about himself.
Otherwise he could have been a fairly good president.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 16, 2021, 12:47:59 pm

The Democrats are still doing what they can to reunite immigrant families that Trump
separated while in office. Even so reminisce of those hired by Trump are still causing
 trouble for the new administration.  Many of which are under contract, so it's
hard to remove  them.

The CDC has recommended that those fully vaccinated don't need to wear masks, but
people still need to follow local rules about masking and should use reasonable
care around others. Also the washing of hands should be continued.

Again the GOP shows how tight they are with Trump. By voting to get rid of a far right
woman member of the GOP from a leadership position because Trump told them to.
Then they replace her with a moderate woman that Trump wanted. I really don't think
Trump cared that she was a moderate,  he just liked her verbal support of him and
his followers.  I have a hunch by making this move, they created  a martyr, and a very
powerful one at that. A mistake a man like Trump would make.

It appears the GOP will do anything Trump wants, even if it's stupid. Now they are
claiming the presidents unemployment support is encouraging people to turn  down
jobs. So GOP states are passing laws to require people to look for work. Now isn't that
interesting. Seems this requirement is already required of people to get unemployment
in the first place. So either GOP legislators can't read, or they are trying to fool their
voter base.  Of course people who haven't ever applied for unemployment could be
fooled by this. Seems the news media fails to educate the public when politicians
try to fool the public. Especially the far right media.  Unfortunately even media that
supports the left doesn't always properly inform the public. 

It's kind of a shame the GOP got more support than Trump did in the 2020 election.   
We can only wonder if their total support of Trump will help or hurt them in 2022.
Trump has a poor record of helping GOP members get elected. Seems he can con
people into supporting him a lot easier than convincing them to support others.

Trump and the GOP are trying to white wash the January riot in the U S capital.
I am sure many people want to think Trump's loss in 2020 was a lie by the Democrats.
but the GOP's belief they can use this lie to retake congress may not work, and
could end up losing even more seats to the Democrats.

We can be sure Trump will be starting his parade of rally's soon, but will his support
baste on a stream of lies by him, help or hurt the GOP?  It's hard to say, but
most people that follow Trump's rally's are caught up in his autocratic cult. A cult
Trump created to make him a autocratic leader. An autocracy gives the leader power
over the government that is nearly unlimited. Once Trump has this power, his supporters will find out what it's really like to have the government control their
lives. There will be nothing to stop him from putting people in prison the same way he
gave crooks he liked pardons. He wanted this power as president, but our constitution  did not give the president the power to jail people arbitrarily. This power belongs to our  system of courts, and even they can't put people in jail without due process.

I fear by the time his supporters realize how deep the rabbit  hole Trump is creating is,
it will be too late to stop his take over. Then our lives will belong to the super rich.
Just as it does in most autocracies around the world.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on May 16, 2021, 03:17:32 pm
As you stated Old Rabbit, people are starting to notice. The unemployment bills are nothing more than smoke. Most of the out of work people during this pandemic have filed for unemployment bens. So these republican supporters got the rules and regs for getting unemployment bens already. This total act of stupidity is actually turning more heads and getting more people to realize just how out of touch the republican party is with reality.

And to show just how far the republican party will go. Here in Missouri we voted FOR medicare expansions. Our republican party has just nixed that. They decided they have the authority to tell voters NO, we don't want this so your not getting it. They don't have the right to do this. Still more people are finding out just how UnAmerican the republican party is.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 20, 2021, 12:51:04 pm

Yes the GOP are showing their true colors when they turn against voters to get their way.

 
It appears  Trump and the GOP plan to use every republican fear and hate to gain
 votes for party members in 2022. You can already see GOP controlled states working to pass laws that adversely  effect  theLGBTQ community, and to remove mandates for
protective masks to please voters.  It's sad how the GOP puts their
political needs above the public health.

They know many Evangelicals are taught by radical ministers that their followers
shouldn't vote to support Democrats because they support people who live in sin.
Those radical ministers should remember the christian religion is about love, not hate.
The one big thing I find wrong with  organized religion is many  of their leaders want\
to use  religion  for  personal power or gain. So they often mislead  people  to gain
their favor.

 Some Democrats think the president should publicly demand a cease fire by the
Israelis. Of course the GOP is trying to blame the president too.   I think the presidents Idea to stop the conflict diplomatically is best. Isn't  it
interesting the GOP is wanting to stop a congressional investigation of the January 6 riot at the capital. Could it be they are trying to hide something?
Or  is it Trump wanting the GOP to  stop it?  I think Trump has more to  worry about than his involvement in that riot.

It's sad how the GOP lets Trump lead them by the nose.
The worse part is that Trump didn't start the radicalization
of the GOP. I think Moscow Mitch had a lot
to do with it when Obama
was elected and encouraged the start of
the tea party. I don't
expect the GOP to ever be overly moderate
But to compromise is the name of the game.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 23, 2021, 10:46:04 am
A few articles for today:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/politics/republicans-extremists-worse-than-2012/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/politics/trump-big-lie-impact/index.html

I think we can all pretty much agree that the GOP is dead in America. It no longer cares about the American people or taking care of legislative business on Capitol Hill. It's only concerns right now seem to be spreading more lies and falsehoods about the 2020 election, downplaying the Jan.6 insurrection, and self preserving their own careers at the expense of everything else. The GOP truly is a joke in this country.  :P And there seems to be nothing that Mitch or other Repubs who stood up to Trump, are doing to "correct" the wayward activities of their party. The GOP has now truly become the conspiracy party of America. Nothing else matters to them. Sad.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 23, 2021, 01:00:29 pm


If the GOP retake the house and the senate, little will be done, especially if Trump
doesn't want it. The GOP and Trump want the U S to be the land for the rich, and
only the rich. They claim they want to help people get jobs, but that is all. The amount
of pay or benefits should be left up to the employer in their opinion. We know  most
employers, people who put profit ahead of workers generally pay as little as they can
and few if any benefits. This is why most workers like Unions, because organized labor
helps prevents big business from taking advantage of workers.

It seems many people who support the GOP, who do so apparently think the GOP will
protect their civil rights better than Democrats. Of course many expect the GOP to
stop abortion, and other things they consider sinful, or just wrong. It's sad when
people wish to  put their personal beliefs above the rights and needs of others.

Unfortunately the GOP wish to use the ignorance of many people to gain votes.
Instead of educating them. Education that could prevent much of the violence we see
across the nation.  Also many mentally ill people go without treatment because  they
are unable to afford the treatment and medicine that could help them. Yet the GOP doesn't want to provide health care for all, because they might have to increase taxes
on their rich supporters. Supporters that help pay for their re-election.

The January 6 commission  vote in the Senate will likely be up against a
filibuster. Apparently because Trump doesn't want it, and we know the GOP is under
his thumb. Then of course the GOP want the January riot to be forgotten. They  fear
the news coverage of a official investigation could cost them support in 2022.
In spite of this, the speaker of the house may setup their own investigation anyway. We
can be sure the GOP and Trump will call it a witch-hunt by the Democrats.

We need a commission to setup protections against a future  attack on our
government. The FBI is already seeing plans of future attacks by extremest against
the government. While another riot against the capital isn't likely. People could cause
disruption's with bombs, and sniper attacks against government officials.

The infrastructure  bill the GOP would agree with would be a joke compared to the
presidents bill. President Biden wants a bipartisan vote, but the GOP is saying
it's their way or no way. It's likely the only way will require a partisan vote because  the
GOP want to stall and argue with the hope to win back control in 2022.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on May 27, 2021, 01:14:03 pm


The GOP apparently plan to call for using funds voted for use by Biden's rescue  bill
to pay for added infrastructure spending. It seems the GOP will do anything to avoid
raising taxes on their rich supporters.

The GOP continue to support the lie that  the election was stolen from Trump. There
is no evidence to support this lie, yet many GOP politicians across the nation refuse
to stand up to Trump and call his lie a lie.  This is likely why they don't support the
bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6 riot at the U S capital. Apparently
Trump doesn't want this investigation, so his GOP lackys are still kissing his back
side with their support, and have no plan to vote for the creation of this commission.

Trump continues to complain about the Newyork investigation of his past
activities that involve himself and businesses there. Calling them a unfair witch hunt.
Isn't  it interesting that each time he is accused of criminal activity it's always a unfair
witch hunt. he apparently thinks he should be above the law, and suspicion. just
like most people accused of crimes.

It's time people like Trump find out that  they like the rest of us are not above the law.
This includes politicians, even if they don't think so.  Seem people who have money
feel they should get special treatment.  Just like spoiled kids.

Seems gun violence is increasing across the nation. While laws do little to prevent 
shootings, something needs to be done. It's time the GOP do more than make
excuses when bills are introduced to deal with gun violence. Much of this violence
is related to mental illness, or frustration. If we continue to ignore the needs of people
these troubles will continue.

Even though the GOP claim people need guns for protection, but  few shooters are
stopped by civilians. The average person is going to hide from a shooter instead of
confronting them. Texas just passed a law to allow unlicensed people to carry firearms,
and no training in the safe use of them. This might be popular with their voter base, but will just add to gun violence, and accidents  due to the miss handling of guns.                                             
It's unfortunate, but some people have no business carrying firearms. Some people seem to be unable to  control their temper, and will try to settle an argument with a gun.
Then many irresponsible  gun owners will leave a loaded firearm laying where  a child
can get a hold of it.  A child  often see firearms as they would a toy, and end up
causing serious injury or death to others or them selves. This is why training in the 
use and care of a firearm should be required. As with the  use and care of a motor
vehicle, the misuse of a firearm should be a crime.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 28, 2021, 01:47:11 pm
It's official. Repubtards in the Senate just killed the bill to have a Commission on the Jan.6th insurrection.  :(
Only 6 Repubs voted for the bill. But it still wasn't enough.
This just goes to show that Repubs care nothing for truth, justice, and democracy. They only care about Trump and the Big Lie he spreads. And they also only care about furthering their own political careers since the midterms are coming up next year.

Republicans don't care about the Truth.
Republicans don't care about Justice.
Republicans don't care about Democracy.
Republicans don't care about the American people.

Republicans only care about themselves.

Republicans are a bunch of cowards.  :goldpissed:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/senators-didnt-vote-january-6-commission/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/05/28/senate-vote-january-6-commission-bill-john-king-ip-sot-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/capitol-riot-senate-vote-05-28-21/h_9e406cc46185b9072a24cf3780d33f7e
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/opinions/republican-jan-6-commission-democrats-hardball-avlon/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on May 28, 2021, 02:39:05 pm
The law and the truth. If a judge gets a speeding ticket that judge can't be the judge at his own trial. The republican party has stated truthfully that there needs to be a comity and full investigation. But not from them. Why? Because they know the law. And they know if they are guilty then they can't deliberate their own trial. So in truth what just happened was nothing more than politics. The democrats know the law too. They just rubbed the law into the republican party's faces. This vote by the republicans can and should be used to prove aiding and abetting by fellow party members. It's also a very public admission of guilt.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 30, 2021, 06:52:06 pm
Texas must really have a hardon to prevent people from voting in their state. I guess they don't want any "Yankees" from polluting their southern ballot boxes.  >:( I guess they'll lie and cheat in whatever way they can to make sure Texas stays Republican now and forever, as well as making sure Republicans stay in the House, Senate, and especially the White House.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/30/opinions/texas-ominous-voter-suppression-obeidallah/index.html?iid=deanobeidallah

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/30/politics/hakeem-jeffries-texas-voting-bill-cnntv/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on May 30, 2021, 09:58:29 pm
i'm amazed how open the GOP is being these days. How brazen and openly they go against the spirit of american democracy. But then they never really were for democracy, they are, and have always been about power and control. They want to have the power they want to have the control, they want this country to be a dictatorship where they suppress all opposition and hold on to all the money.

I never thought I would see this kind of thing actually happening but here we are. This crap has to be fought.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 30, 2021, 10:51:47 pm
I never thought I would see this kind of thing actually happening but here we are. This crap has to be fought.

Oh, it'll be fought all right..........with protests, violence, and guns. If Texas and any other states go against the will of the people and start overturning election results, the brown stuff is going to hit the fan, BIG TIME! Governor Abbot is already starting to sound like a dictator announceing all these voting changes.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on May 31, 2021, 12:00:17 am
Let's separate the chaff from the grain here. Making it harder to vote by mail. Jump through their hoops and you can still vote. Starting early voting an hour later on a Sunday? To keep church people from voting? Make a church party event on that Sunday and then go vote. The real chaff. A judge, without probable cause, this is frightening.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on May 31, 2021, 10:52:20 am
The real chaff. A judge, without probable cause, this is frightening.

The key issue or question is, how many judges will actually do what Abbot wants? Will they overturn the results like he wants? Or will some of them "rebel" and not give in to the lunacy, lies, etc.? And if judges don't do what Abbot and the Legislature wants, what then? Will they be removed from the bench and replaced with more obediant dogs (new Judges) who wag their tails for their masters?

In other news, things just got more complicated in Texas last night.  :o
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/31/politics/texas-voting-rights-bill-sb7-house-adjourned-no-quorum/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/05/31/texas-democrat-joe-moody-walk-out-newday-sot-intv-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 01, 2021, 12:52:20 pm
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The GOP controlled states are changing voting laws in hope it will give them an
advantage. Personally voting in my community has changed little  in my memory. You go to the polls and vote. The only change I have seen is to show a id card with a
picture of me on it.  If people know they may be in line for hours they should  prepare
themselves for it. If they don't like long lines they should get rid of politicians that
cause them.

What is the GOP afraid of? Laws are being passed to cover up the darkest history of
how African Americans have been treated across the United States. Not just slavery, but since the civil war. When the freed slaves were treated as bad or worse as they
were under slavery. While these human beings have made gains, they still suffer 
discrimination and mistreatment, apparently due to the color of their skin.

I think is time decent people hold the GOP responsible for their racist acts, and
their attempt to take rights away from people of color. Until they give Trump the boot
and return to their conservative roots, and support of our democracy, They should lose
 election after election.  Trump wants to return to  power, and create an autocracy 
with him as it's permanent  leader. He apparently has convinced the GOP leadership
he has the power to cost them control of the government if they don't support him.
So the majority of GOP politicians fear to say anything against Trump.
Due to his threat to run people against them in primaries.

If this attempt by Trump and the far right succeed in wrecking our democracy. Many
will suffer, because self interested rich people will gain while the poor and the needy
will lose and die in the streets, from sickness and hunger. If the self interested rich 
think people will suffer and die quietly, they are in for a surprise.

A strong economy needs a society with reasonably happy people with money to spend.
Otherwise businesses will fail, along with crime which could wreck gains by the rich.
 Something  I really doubt Trump could understand and would likely want to blame 
others for the nations troubles.

The last thing we need to do is return to the time where groups like the K K K and
others ran the country. It was groups like this who caused the attack on a prosperous
Black suburb of Tulsa  Oklahoma, leaving hundreds of it's citizens dead and thousands homeless.   Attacks on people of color were common between the days of the civil war
until the mid 1960's. 

If we allow hate groups to grow in the country once more, our society will suffer.
Not only that, our economy will suffer with growing violence across the nation.
During the early days of the 20th century, the white race dominated society, but  this
will soon end. No matter what the GOP or people like Trump want. I fear if we allow   
the GOP to control the country, democracy will end with a push to create an autocracy 
with Trump as it's leader.  A leader who cares only for himself, and little else.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on June 02, 2021, 04:57:28 pm
Everything, or almost everything, you wanted to know about the Texas voting bill, but were afraid to ask. This has got to be some of the most toughest and strictest stuff I have ever read for a voting bill.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/02/politics/fact-check-texas-elections-bill-voting-sb7-republicans-abbott/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on June 02, 2021, 06:38:52 pm
Why limit late night voting?  People work odd hours, may be the only chance they have.  And employers say you can vote and they have to let you go, but often it is non-paid time or dipping into your time-off pool. 

Seems a few of these changes are almost designed to hurt a subset of people.  Not sure.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on June 02, 2021, 07:17:00 pm
Well, if you thought Texas was bad, Jade, then here at Furtopia, we don't allow feral furries to vote.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Jade Sinapu on June 02, 2021, 11:33:22 pm
Well shoot!  I guess I had better transform into a toony furry asap!
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on June 03, 2021, 01:36:22 am
The limit on late night hours is another smoke screen. You have the right  to leave work to vote. Your employer can't stop you. Nor can an employer charge you for being late if you where voting. Your name, date and time you voted is a public record. Your employer can access that record to verify you are in the right.

The republican party is kicking up a lot of dust. Because that's all they have.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 05, 2021, 01:21:12 pm

Apparently Trump made a not too bailed threat to  punish Facebook if and when he
returns to the White House.  If so it's not likely to help his  return to the social media
giant anytime soon.  Trump plans to speak at an annual GOP love fest. Where he will
likely continue his rhetoric on how the election was stolen from him. Also he apparently  thinks if it can be shown it was stolen from him somehow, he can return to the White
House this August.  Where he got that idea, who can say. 

There is a rumor Trump may run for a House seat in 2022 with the hope to become
the speaker. This plan is likely a way for Trump to protect himself from legal action
until he can run for president in 2024. Trump may have a lot of GOP support, but
to win a house seat will take more than GOP voters to win.

I think it's sad  how religious people are willing to support the GOP who only pretend
to support religious values. Oh they gladly pass laws that please religious people , but
when their supporters aren't looking they leave the country where those laws don't
affect them. That way someone in their family can get an abortion if they want
Or be a closet homosexual if they like.

It's a shame the religious supporters of the GOP are unaware of how many GOP
politicians spend their nights with  Washington D C ladies of the evening. Not
counting those who are privately gay.

It's easy for a rich politician to avoid laws by leaving the country, while the poor  are
forced to follow laws they can't afford to avoid. I really don't know how to correct  this
as long as crooked religious leaders support the GOP for power and money.  It's sad
but people are easily misled by crooked religious leaders.  Much the same as they
are by most con artists like Trump. A man who claimed to be religious only after
deciding to run for the presidency as a republican.

While wearing a mask can be a pain, people should consider the health of
others when they decide not to wear one. Even though I have been fully vaccinated , I
still ware a mask when around other people. Mainly to protect the health of others and
to be a good example for those around me.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 12, 2021, 01:25:37 pm


 psychiatrist, when asked, see Trump as a mentally troubled individual. But it seems 
he won't accept testing by any doctor he hasn't paid or threatened to say he is perfectly
well. So we really don't know why he makes crazy irresponsible claims.

While in the White House Trump was rushed to the hospital for 2 hours, and at the same
time the vice president was being rushed back to the capital. When questioned about this
no answered were ever given. Also prior to this Trump had episodes of slurred speech
and some stumbling. I think he had a stroke, and it was covered up. People can recover
quickly from minor strokes once treated.  So would be easy to cover up.

Russia's president Putin, when ask about Trump, did little but brag about
him, of course he did. Trump was giving Putin almost anything he wanted.
Apparently thinking Putin would be his friend if he kissed Putin's backside. Trump pretended to put
America first, but only if it didn't upset his old buddy Putin.

So if the GOP was to retake the US  House, it's likely Trump will demand to be made
speaker. Not that it would improve legislation by any means. I really think Trump is too
lazy for the job. At least Biden could stop any   radical laws Trump might try to pass.  We
can only hope president Biden can win a second term, ore at least a Democrat. Because the GOP want to privatize all social programs. Under private  control these programs would
  have their benefits cut to protect profits if need be. No matter who was hurt.

It seems the Democrat from west Virginia is more interested in being a  big shot than
working for his party or the country. He knows with his vote he can keep the president from passing bills which would likely hert the GOP  in 2022. So he can get just about anything he
wants within reason,. even from the GOP.

He claims to be against anything that isn't  getting partisan support. With this all the GOP
has to do is  not to agree to anything they want him to vote against. Like voting rights, 
gun legislation, civil rights, and police reform.

it"s sad so many refuse to be vaccinated against covid19. People claiming it's their civil
right to not get the vaccine is just wrong, because it like not wearing masques puts so many
at risk when they don't follow medical advice.

 What is strange is many of these same people are against abortion. Claiming it kills
the innocent. Well so can covid19, if you try to  ignore it. But many don't seem to care.

If autocratic white nationalism takes over in this country, no one will be safe. Even
supporters of Trump and the GOP will lose if they get in the way of favored  Plutocrats. Just
as they  do in all autocracies around the world.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 17, 2021, 12:45:23 pm
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While many Democrats complain the GOP is working to stop people of color from voting. In
most cases it's designed to make it harder to commit voting fraud. At least that is the
GOP's  excuse. But these new laws will make it harder for all voters, so their attack against
voters of color could backfire. Costing the  GOP the vary gains they hope to make.

Many times if people are led to believe they are being taken advantage of, they will work
all the harder to defeat those forces against them. So by following a man like Trump, a man
who considers himself a lot smarter than anyone of color, is likely to lead the GOP and his
supporters down the garden path to defeat.

During the attack by Trump's supporters on the nations capital, I understand they expected
Trump's help. But Trump was hiding in his underground secure vault watching the attack on
 video with a grin on his face. With no intention of giving help to either side.

Apparently Trump hoped to stop the cirtification of Biden to be president. But didn't have
the nerve to have any part in the attack. Trump never involves himself in anything he thinks 
might get him in trouble personally. So he has others do his dirty work. The sooner those
who support Trump realize they are being used,by him, the better. Because his use of them
is for his benefit, not theirs.

It seems the GOP is wanting to move to a autocratic form of government. Where they have
virtually total control over legislation, and government leadership. While it is true it's simpler
to rule an autocracy, since it's one sided for the most part. This one side control is why we
see so many around the world. Democracies require compromise which often takes time
and many times is unpredictable. So men controlled by greed always want full control of
society, with little or no compromises.  This is why president Putin of Russia is working hard
to keep Russia under autocratic control. So he can run the country the way he wants, no
matter what the Russian people want.  Typical of all autocracies.

I am sure the GOP and Trump supporters feel single party control is a good thing. The sad
thing is it's a bad idea. Oh it looks good until greedy people take control. Then all those
people who wanted it will  suddenly find their rights disappearing, and little if any way to
return to a democracy.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 22, 2021, 01:05:16 pm

It was a surprise to see the supreme court refuse to kill the ACA by not supporting a law
suit by several of the GOP controlled states. Still they are considering to rule on abortion
rights, civil voting rights, affirmative action, and other rulings that affect GOP's attempt to
take rights away from people of color and the LGBTQ in our country.

If the GOP win back the senate in 2022 all appointments to the courts will stop, especially  any
to the supreme court. So the Democrats best appoint all the judges they can this year
and next. Already conservative judges are blocking some of president Biden's  work to undo
Trump's terrible decisions.

The GOP continue to call the January 6 attack on the capital no big deal. Apparently
wanting to  follow Trump's orders to do so. Every one of them should lose their seat in
congress by not supporting our democracy.

The GOP continues to push anti racial ideas such as not teaching young people the racial
history of our country, or even current events that involve race. They apparently fear allowing
this would cost the white extremest in the GOP future elections.

Sad to say, but many in the GOP are moving the party toward fascism. I think the reason is
people who support Trump have been misled to believe nationalism is good for the
country. People like Trump know they can use peoples natural wish to protect their own to
control them. Many people naturally think of them selves first, so Trump's America first plan
gained him a lot of support. People need to understand as world population grows, we must
work together.

We all live on this one planet. It would be nice if  the human race had other worlds where
people could live however they wanted, but we don't. So we must learn to live together or
we may die together, and nationalism is definitely not the answer, as it leads to disputes
between nations with nowhere to go. I fear nuclear war will destroy most life on our planet,
since we can be sure nations who have such weapons will use them rather than accept
defeat in a war. So we need to do all we can to avoid a war that could end life on our planet.
Personally if we must have nuclear weapon, I would like them to be limited to radiation only
weapons like neutron bombs. As once the radiation flash is over it's done.  No destructive
explosion to scatter  radiation around the world. But it's not likely to happen as too many
people would rather see complete  destruction. 

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 27, 2021, 01:04:07 pm


Old man Trump is back at it  with a rally in Ohio. He is already claiming the
Democrats are out to get him. So I think we can be sure he will continue his lies
about his lost election. I am sure most of those that attend are completely under
his spell, and want to believe all of his lies. If Trump wasn't so bad I would feel
sorry for him when he rants about past losses.

The sad thing is the GOP is going along with Trump and his lies. Not only that so
is the right wing media. So it's no wonder why people are being misled into
thinking the Democrats just don't  like him when told he is bad for the country.

Trump knows what people want to hear, so he tells them this at his rally's.  He
loves the cheers, as it feeds his ego. It's this ego that makes Trump dangerous,
because he will do most anything to feed it. Hence the reason he cares only for
himself.

It's down right  amazing what some people are willing to  believe. One idea was
that Italy was using satellites to rig our presidential election. It's not possible, but
it seems people are ready to believe anything if it suits them. Another was a man
who still thinks the earth is flat, believes the Russians are planning to use an
atomic bomb to tilt the earth enough so we slide off.

 The Democrats must convince a majority of the voters to punish the GOP, if
they don't, and if allowed to take control of government, we may well be headed
for civil war or a race war. Perhaps both because many of the far right hate people of color.

GOP controlled states continue  to blame unemployment for people not returning
to work. This is GOP politicians chasing votes and support from businesses and
ignorant people who have little idea how hard it is to get unemployment  much  less stay on it.

Many businesses don't  want to pay workers more money, some can't afford to,
so society may have to deal with it or businesses with high labor costs may have
to close if they can't afford to exist. Because workers need to make a reasonable
living to maintain good health of mind and body.

Another thing is some jobs are just gone. Then some still have kids at home and can't
afford to put them in child care making low wages.
so they stay on unemployment for the money.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on June 30, 2021, 01:02:12 pm

In the mid 2000's the GOP decided to put all their political effort into taking over
state legislatures. At the time the GOP were facing political losses at the federal
level and feared their party was down for the count so to speak.

I think we can see this was a smart move by the GOP, as they gained several
governorship and control of several state legislatures. Unfortunately instead of
working for the good of the country, they have been working for the so called good
of the party, and their rich supporters.
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Now I have no problem with people wanting to make a good income, but some
are more than willing to step on others to do so, and the republican party apparently is ready to help them do it, and since the election of president Reagan
they have been doing just that, full of promises and little else. At least for middle
class Americans trying to make a decent living. These Americans grow poorer
while the GOP helps the rich grow richer. With this help the rich is fully willing to
help the GOP stay in power.

While Trump and the GOP had power about all they did was cut taxes for the
riches Americans. That and put conservative judges in federal courts. After trying
hard for several years the GOP has learned it's much easier  to use the courts
to change laws, instead of fighting the Democrats in congress. Especially since the
GOP is a minority party that depends on independents to hold power.

It seems many people either don't  want to be vaccinated against covid19, or feel
they don't need to be. The political excuse is the worst because it's a terrible
excuse to put others at risk just because a politician tells them not  to, only for the
purpose to gain more votes. In my local area a small town is trying to get rid of a
good mayor just because he is requiring people to wear masks. Seems many of
the town citizens care more about their personal comfort than peoples lives.

The sad thing is many in the GOP care more about political  power than the public
health. Yes, most people in that town are republicans, and we can be sure no GOP
politician is supporting the mayor.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on July 01, 2021, 03:28:25 am
Old Rabbit, it's not murder, it's republican! The covid Delta + variant is killing people at any age. It's now found in all 50 states. Honestly believe we have less than three months before serious lock downs begin again. Our Republican party is the first in known history of mankind to knowingly try to kill of it's own followers.

I'm going to put this out there. Because no one else seems to be talking about it. Trump believes NASA is watching him. He also said that Italy used satellites to interfere with the election. This sounds more like dementia than politics.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 04, 2021, 12:47:03 pm

Even though the population of the United States is growing old the GOP continues
it's work to block immigration. Most likely because they see it as a way to gain
votes for their party. The GOP governor of South Dakota sent 50 state national
guard troops to the boarder with Mexico to help keep desperate families from
entering  the U S to gain asylum. Not a military invasion but mothers, fathers,
 and their children who face death in their own country. The cost to send these 
troops is apparently being paid for by a Tennessee Billionaire.

The legality of allowing a private individual to pay a state for a political purpose
is highly suspect. If this is allowed, what to keep other plutocrats from supporting
the GOP who is against voting, or any protest they don't like. I am sure if a
Democrat governor was to try this, the GOP would be having a fit.

This country needs millions of immigrants to grow. Otherwise the country will fall
behind countries run by autocrats, and plutocrats. People who care nothing for the
average man or woman, but only for themselves. Trump claims he is for the
common man, but this is a lie, he is using his followers for his own benefit,
not
theirs, or the country for that matter. It's unfortunate we have a party like
the GOP who fears the lost of power so much they will lie and cheat to get what they
want from government, and the people they mislead.

These people claim they are for law and order, but many of them only follow the
law when it suits their purpose. Sometimes I feel the GOP has been stolen by
the far right because conservatism is the closest thing to their way of thinking. So
with Trump's help they are trying to twist it to suit their purpose. A
purpose we must fight with our votes to prevent. Because allowing them to
succeed will hand our country to the super rich. People who consider themselves
better than anyone else.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 09, 2021, 01:28:10 pm

It seems Trump doesn't think side benefits should be taxable. At least that is what
he tells his supporters. They may wish to believe Trump's lies, but they best
report those benefits to the IRS,. or they may wish they had, because side benefits
are considered to be taxable income. Even if Trump doesn't think so.

-Just how far will the GOP go trying to hang on to political power? So far they are
letting Trump tell them what to do, with threats to replace GOP congressmen if 
they ignore his wishes.

Trump continues to push his lie about his election being stolen. I fully expect he
planned to make this claim if he had lost to  H Clinton in 2016. Mainly because
just before the election he was making the claim his election  with her was
being rigged, because he fully expected to lose.  It's pathetic how he has
continue to run H Clinton down ever since. It seems Trump thinks by running
her down he is making himself look better. Instead is just shows how screwed up
he and his supporters are.

Trump doesn't seem to understand how to be a good winner, much less a loser.
It's really sad how he continues to run H Clinton down years after his win over
her in 2016. I really think Trump does suffer from dementia at times due to his
crazy claims that make little or no sense. The real danger to the
country is the way the republican party supports this craziness. 

If the GOP does regain control of the house of representatives in 2022, if's
possible Trump may demand to be made speaker. If this was to happen, congress
would end up being run by a crazy man who only cares for himself.

Covid19 is growing again, especially in areas controlled by the GOP. The
governor of my state of Missouri appears to be wanting to hide this in the
southwest part of our state. Claiming there are no real problems due to covid19 there. Well you would think a GOP governor would want to protect a GOP
strong hold, but he apparently fears requiring masks or vaccinations so much
he won't do anything. So hundreds are getting sick and many are dying due
to covid19 in that part of the state.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 14, 2021, 12:35:46 pm

The GOP  had their second political conference in  a  year. Likely because  Trump told
them to. On January 6 one of the capital invaders was killed, and to hear Trump talk

you would have thought she was a national hero instead of being a lawbreaker apparently
out to attack the Speaker of the house.

Trump is doing the best he can to convince people those who invaded the capital
had a right to  do so. Not only that but were patriots by trying to keep him in the
White House. He is still making the claim he will be returned to the White House
this August. Obviously a fantasy of his, or a way he feels will keep himself in the
public eye. The problem is this could lead to another insurrection by Trump
supporters when it fails to happen. This possibility is leading government officials
to prepare possible legal action against Trump and media supporters of Trump
and others if another insurrection occurs, and they are found to be the cause.

It seems many people who live in southern states feel leaders of the confederacy
should be held in esteem. In my opinion these so called hero's belong in private
museums, Not as statues or monuments in public parks. The confederacy is a dark
part of our history, and has no place in the public eye, much less celebrated.

If people wish to privately honor the confederacy, so be it, but they must realize
the confederacy lost the civil war, and  have no place other than in museums, and
left to history where it belongs.

If extremists  attempt to start another civil war, they may find themselves in prison
charged with treason when it's all said and done. I hardly think the generalpublic will
support such a stupid act. I am sure Trump would only do so if his side won.
If you think not, just remember where he was during the January 6 insurrection.
Hiding while his supporters did his dirty work. Trump is a coward through and
through, he wouldn't even risk getting a hangnail, much less be a part of any
attack. The sooner his supporters see Trump for what he really is the better for
us all.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 18, 2021, 12:35:04 pm

It's shameful how snobbish the GOP is toward people they consider beneath  their
status in life. This country was created with equality in mind  if you believe the
constitutions, but it seems the GOP cares little for equality. Especially toward
people of color. 

The followers of Trump should realize he cares nothing for them and looks down
on those he can't take advantage of. If Trump was able to gain autocratic power
he would leave his followers to fend for themselves. Just as he did on Jan 6.

It seems there is always people who let greed run their lives, and it seems many
of those who follow the GOP do. While it is true some people tend to be lazy
and are happy to let hard working people support them. The GOP often want the
public to be leave anyone who asks for government aid to be lazy and not
deserving of help. They know a lot of people think the worst of needy people and
like how the GOP talks about these people enough to  give them their vote. Then
when Democrats want to help the needy the GOP tells voters it's socialism, and 
bad for the economy to help those people they call lazy. So many people who
really need aid go without so the GOP can cut taxes for their rich friends.

Not only does this harm the needy, but  by not putting money out to help them
the local economies suffer as well. Small businesses close, putting more people
out of work. Increasing the number of people needing help. Something I am sure
the GOP understands, but could care less about.

The GOP leaders are constantly looking for things their voters hate. After all being
a minority party, the GOP needs every vote they can get to hang on to power. So
they lie and cheat every chance they get to win more votes. The courts have had
to punish the GOP many times due to their inappropriate acts, but they continue
with their dirty tricks to win  votes. It's unfortunate that they are able to convince
people to vote for the party in numbers  that make it difficult to help make the
country a better place for us all. Instead of building a strong middle class, the
rich become even richer, while the majority becomes poorer.

This is why the GOP is working to limit voting by people of color. They know a
majority of these people fail to support the GOP. So if they can reduce the number
of opposition votes, it will help them hold power.

During Trump's time as president the GOP controlled U S Senate worked hard to
pack the federal courts with partisan judges. If the Democrats had tried this the
GOP would have been squealing like stuck pigs. Seems the GOP along with  the federalist society want to follow the constitution much as it was written.
So they want judges that follow this policy trying to prevent new ideas from making
changes they don't like. Sadly in reality only a minority is against these
changes. But to keep power the GOP leaders lie, and mislead people to get their
votes.

Changes are always difficult for many people to accept. The bad thing about
the GOP is they are using this slow acceptance as a way to hold on to power.
Another bad thing about this misuse of power is it prevents changes needed
to prevent climate  change. Also many people have been misled so they fail to
get vaccinated against covid19. Causing many to get sick,and some to die.

Personally I would rather they didn't get rid of the filibuster rule as by doing so
would let the GOP pass even more laws to allow corrupt acts by the rich. I would
rather they would return the rules requiring those who wish to filibuster so they
have to send hours on the floor of the senate talking. The way  it is now all they
have to  do is  just declare it, requiring 60 votes to end it.  I have a hunch it would
be much harder for the GOP to have a member talk for many hours just to prevent
passage of bills.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 25, 2021, 12:09:05 pm


Across the nation shootings are increasing. More and more people are carrying
firearms, especially as GOP controlled states are passing laws to allow people to
publicly carry handguns. Even unlicensed, and no training with limited background
checks. Apparently in hopes to gain the GOP more votes.

Many people claim they want a firearm to protect themselves and family. The
problem I see is these firearms usually end up injuring and killing the very people
that buy them for protection. They rarely get used to protect the people who buy
them, Many people have little or no training in the proper use of firearms. So they
find out too late that the use of a firearm is more than pointing and pulling  the
trigger.

Seems the GOP has little interest in bipartisanship. It's their way or no way, or
perhaps I should say it's Trump's way or no way. We know the GOP is in his
pocket. They appear to be afraid to oppose anything he wants. I think they will find
his supporters like Trump more than those he supports. So far his support has
done little to help GOP members get elected.

Though Trump has large crowds at each of his rally, most if not all are hard core
supporters that travel great distances to hear him speak. I sometimes think Trump
believes he has more support than he really does. The GOP worked hard to keep
the crowds where ever he went to show him their full support. They know his
EGO demands it. So those who planned his trips made sure the crowds would be
large and friendly to him.

There are reports that Trump tried to get the military to keep him as president
during the days leading up to January 20. Just as Adolf Hitler  did when he took
over Germany in the 1930's. But our military would not give him their support.
Because our military is setup to not be political. They support the constitution not
-the political wishes of a president. I imagine since being commander in chief, Trump was sure the military would have to support his wishes.  But he soon
found out the  constitution outranks a president, much to  his dismay.

It appears GOP  governors are finally realizing how dangerous covid19 has
become, and are encouraging people to get vaccinated. Even in my state of
Missouri the governor has decided he must admit people need to use masks and
get vaccinated. Yet the GOP is still against mandates, so only time will tell
if they continue to be against mandates. People must realize not getting
vaccinated is more dangerous than the lies they see online. Not only refusing to be
vaccinated is a danger to others. Especially those who are not eligible  to be
vaccinated. People should wear masks even if they have been vaccinated to
to protect young children they might infect. The  covid19 virus is a pain, but to end
it requires all of us to work at protecting ourselves and others. If we don't this virus
will drag on for many years.

In the past society worked hard to rid humanity of diseases like smallpox and
polio. We did this by using mandates that required children to be  vaccinated 
before entering school. Unfortunately false reports claiming these vaccinations
caused some diseases. So many people started to not get vaccines. Now with
the internet many more people are refusing vaccines. Putting themselves and us
all at risk. Seems for a time the GOP saw this as a chance to gain votes, but even
they are coming around and starting to incur-age people to use masks and to get
vaccinated. I fear it will be too late for many people, but it's good to hear the number
of people wanting vaccinations is growing. Now if we can get Trump  to support vaccines
it would be even better.

 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on July 29, 2021, 12:33:05 pm


So far the GOP and Trump have been trying to call the invasion of the capital by
supporters of Trump some kind of love fest. According to testimony by capital
police the invaders were shouting they were there on Trump's orders. Also these
invaders were attacking, not loving anyone but Trump. It's strange how GOP
congressmen who were being protected by the police, are now misrepresenting
the police. Apparently trying to protect Trump their king. Just shows what some
 GOP members of congress will do trying to hang on to political power.
-
A select committee will be investigating this January 6 insurrection  against the
U S capital. The GOP is trying to stop any investigation for fear it will keep them
from gaining control of the U S House and Senate in the 2022 mid term election.
So we can be sure any GOP member required to testify will attempt to drag their
feet so to speak. In the past GOP members have  successfully delayed showing
up for nearly 2 years. They know this select committee will be forced to end with
a new congress in 2023. So if they manage to regain the house in the mid term
election they can stop any investigation that might harm their chance to regain
the White House in 2024.

The sad thing is by using the filibuster rule, the GOP prevented a vote to create a
independent commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection. A commission
that would not be under congressional control. Instead  the GOP, possibly under
Trump's instruction made sure a non partisan independent commission would not
be  created. Apparently to protect the GOP, and Trump to hide any  connection there might be between them and the insurrection of January 6, 2021.

 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 04, 2021, 01:01:23 pm

Another GOP member with Trump's support lost an election. More proof that
 Trump's supporters generally fail to vote for people he tells them to. A big test of
this is the election of Trump's man as the governor  of Virginia in 2022.

We can be sure if Trump's man wins, Trump will make a big deal of it, and it's proof he can win in 2024. Of course if he fails, we can be sure Trump will claim it was another election that had to be rigged.  Trump had planned to claim this in
2016, but when he won he said nothing more about it.

Hopefully Trump's man loses because he was one of Trump's men during his time
in the White House, and will likely turn Virginia over to the far right to benefit

Trump.

People need to realize Trump cares nothing for anyone but himself. When
he speaks at a rally, he is nothing but a professional manipulator. Using his
ability to gain support with his lies. If Trump wasn't such a lazy lying coward, and
so self centered, he could have made a fairly reasonable president. But then he
wouldn't have been Trump. Everyone connected to Trump knows this of Trump, but
see him as a golden goose. They follow him hoping to use him for political
gain. Not  counting any golden eggs he might give them.

I think part of Trump's attraction is his money. People have a habit of chasing
rich people, with the hope some of their riches will rub off on  them. The sad thing
with Trump he is a loser who takes advantage of anyone that will listen to his lies. Then when they need him, just like all con artist he is gone.

I fear if he an the GOP regain power, this country could end up being an autocracy
with Trump as an autocratic leader. I am sure his followers would like to see this,
but will wish they never heard of Trump in the end. Because due to his ignorance,
he will hand the country over to his rich friends. People who care nothing for
anything but riches, no matter who they hurt getting richer and richer. Just
look at Russia if you wish to see where we are going. Trump would love to be the
first trillionaire, and like Putin of Russia he will force his rich friends
  to give him much of their riches, and they won't be able to stop him.

Trump loved his power to pardon his friends, but what he really wanted was the
power to imprison those he didn't like. Especially his political enemies, and if he
gains autocratic power, that is just what he will do. The sad thing is many of his
supporters seem to think this would be a good thing. Well I have a hunch the first
time Trump put someone in jail they liked, their support would begin to disappear.
But by then it would be too late to stop Trump,  their lord and master.

The  only thing that kept him from keeping the White House is because the
military would not support his attempted take over, and if he becomes president
again. We can be sure he will do all he can to gain full control of the military. It's
control of the military that keeps all autocratic leaders in power, and I am sure
Trump's autocratic acquaintances have told him this.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 06, 2021, 12:59:53 pm

The delta version of covid19 is spreading across the nation. Inspite of the
danger to the population of Florida and Texas, their GOP governors still refuse to
require the wearing of masks, and to get vaccinated against covid19. Especially
those in schools. Even though the virus is affecting younger people and more kids
every day.

It's not only Texas and Florida, Most GOP governors are afraid to require masks or
vaccines fearing it would cost them their next election. It apparently matters not
 that it would save many lives, and improve the economy of their state. Their big
excuse is that it would be too hard to enforce. While some state governors are
telling their state populations to to get vaccinated and wear masks. They follow
saying only if people wish to  do so. So it's obvious they don't want their voters to
think it's a mandate.

It's very sad so many people don't trust the government when it comes to
vaccines. The one thing that can save people from the ravages of disease. It seams some people have to  experience sickness first, and It's especially bad
when children have to suffer from disease
due to politics.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on August 08, 2021, 03:56:44 am
Really makes me wonder what they are thinking. I realize that it's easier to control people who are angry or suffering. That is a historical fact. However it's easier to do when the entire population is suffering. Like in Germany in the 1930's. Not when your kid is in the hospital with a virus that could have been prevented. At the same time your vaccinated neighbor's kid is still happily playing video games. It's physiological. When a child is suffering a parent finds ways to blame them self. In this case it is their fault. And the next person to blame is the person who inspired them to take this action. Just what is the GOP thinking? And just when you think the GOP has killed off enough people there is now a new variant. Not enough info on the new variant. It does have a name. But as far as I'm concerned they should call it the 'Republican Variant'. Give them something else they can be proud of. And speaking of suffering there are two types of suffering happening in America right now. Those who are suffering and or dying from Covid. And the rest of us who are waiting for the rest of them to die off so we can get back to normal lives.

My fellow furries. This is the very first time in human history that a party in power has done their best to kill off their own supporters. In all of known history this has never happened before. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on August 08, 2021, 04:40:25 am
I found one! I found a world leader who killed millions of his own people. Mao Zedong. AKA Chairman Mao. Killed millions of Chinese and started the Peoples Republic of China. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on August 08, 2021, 06:20:43 pm
Opps. Nothing like what we are facing. Chairman Mao murdered educated people, school teachers, collage professors. You know, the same people right wing media has called "dangerous" in the past.  We'll have to try again. The GOP is inspiring it's entire fan base to suffer or die. Not those who could appose them. They very people who support them, donate and vote for them. That is who the GOP is trying to kill off.

The only political leader who the Republican Party comes close to is Pol Pot of Cambodia. He took pleasure in taking pictures of himself killing thousands of people. Pol Pot. A true republican.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 13, 2021, 01:09:53 pm

 I am sure most of us  have seen news reports of the fires in the western U S, and
other parts of the world. Not only fires, but extreme weather  events attributed to climate change. If politicians fail to move our economy away  from energy that continues to increase global warming. Ocean levels will rise and  flood coastal cities and many coastal areas. Not only that warming may increase faster than predicted if we don't make changes very soon. We could see rises
in temperatures that could kill millions  by2050.


It seems the governors of Florida and Texas have no plan to mandate masks
or vaccines for schools. Apparently expecting this will help them stay in office. They best   hope children don't start dying in large numbers or their names will
likely be mud.

19 GOP senators, including moscow Mitch voted to pass an infrastructure bill.
So I wonder how much steam was coming out of Trump's ears when he heard
how many GOP senators failed to follow his orders. It's going to cost him a lot
to primary every senator that failed to listen to him.

President Biden signed a bill giving the Medal of Honor to the police that defended
the nations capital and our senators and representatives on January 6. These
people risked their lives to defend our democracy, and fully deserve our deepest
thanks.

The GOP continues to attack voting rights across the nation. It's not just black
people they  want to keep from voting. The GOP is becoming so afraid of losing
power they no longer run on policies, and have turned almost entirely to voter
suppression, and the courts for government control of laws.

I fear the last census will make it even easier for the GOP to impose even more
gerrymandering throughout this decade. The use of this to separate voters in GOP
controlled states is virtually draconian, by limiting the number of minority votes to
keep them from electing representative members to state and federal legislatures.

GOP controlled courts have failed to prevent such use of gerrymandering by the
GOP, and are not likely to limit such use in the near future. This is the  vary
reason the GOP is  packing federal courts with judges that favor the GOP.
It seems the GOP are working to destroy our democracy, so they can as an
minority can take over the country for their own purposes that appear to favor
wealthy white  heterosexual evangelical males. So if your a female and a member
of the LGBTQ, and many other minorities, it's likely your rights will be lost each time the far right wants them removed.

This is why those of us who believe in human rights must vote, and let our
members of congress know how we feel. If we don't, and our democracy is lost, we
will have no say in how we are treated.

It's interesting that those who support Trump claim it's their right to choose that
they are defending, so they should be defending democracy, not a self centered
man who cares nothing for them, except for the power he hopes to gain. A power
he can use to in slave us all.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 19, 2021, 01:16:32 pm


Fortunately gerrymandering only work to gain seats in lower houses of
government. So Democrats can still win senate seats and governorship in spite
of the dirty work of the GOP. If we can keep the GOP from electing governors
and gaining senate control, the GOP will be limited on how much harm they can
do to our democracy.

The GOP is finger pointing again. They use any error or mistake by Democrats
as an excuse to place blame on them, but when the GOP mess up they run and hide, or just ignore questions that relate to their mistakes, and try to change the subject  to something the Democrats did wrong.  I have seen this many times, when a  reporter asks a GOP politician a question that might require an
imbairassing answer. The politician starts making a speech about how great his
party is.   While this is true with many politicians, it is much more common with the GOP, and often times they  don't even show up for an interview unless the reporter
favors the GOP.

It's darned if you do and darned if you don't.
I think the tragic events in Afghanistan would have occurred no matter who was
president. With Trump it likely would have been worse as he was ready to turn
Afghanistan over to the Talivan anyway, and since that crowd never keeps it's
promises, it would have ended up the same or worse because Trump would have
offered them almost anything trying to benefit himself. I understand Trump told
them they could come to camp David to sign a cease fire agreement if they wished. That would have been a security nightmare due to Trump's ignorance.
Because he seemed to think as president he only needed  to say do it, and that's
is all there is to it, because the needs of others means little or nothing to him.


   
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 26, 2021, 01:20:46 pm

Apparently ISIS K has set off an explosive near the airport in Kabul Afghanistan.
This has turned a mess into a probable disaster for those trying to evacuate
Americans and others from Afghanistan. Once we are out it's likely China is going
to offer military aid to the Talivan. This could create another situation much like
North Korea. Adding threats to any democracy in the Middle East. Governments
of China and Russia  among others are pushing to rid the world of democracies
in favor of Autocracies.   

If we wished to pull out completely, we should have kept control of those military
bases we created till every one who wished to leave did so, then go without any
warning.

This mess was started by Trump, and should have stopped when Biden took over. There wasn't any reason to  hand the country over to the Talivan. The only reason
Trump and the far right wanted to do so, apparently thought it would get the U S
out quicker. I very much doubt that Trump or the far right cared who got out except
the military. If we leave these thousands to the tender mercies of the Talivan, we
will find it much harder to gain civilian support where we fight wars in the future.

Hopefully the GOP will fail to regain the senate and the house of representatives
next year. Because if they do, we can expect a series of hearings designed to make the Democrats look bad, and a possible impeachment of president Biden
over the mess in Afghanistan. This wouldn't go any where, but the GOP are going to do all they can to win back  the White house in 2024.

If they regain total control  of the government, we will see the loss of rights for
women, minorities, handicapped, elderly, and the LGBTQ.  This includes voting rights and the rights to assemble in the streets to fight for our rights. The radical
far right want to do away with democracy in favor of an autocracy where they can
run the country as they see fit.

These people will use religion as an excuse to enforce their radical beliefs on us
-all. They want to return to the early days of the20th century where women, and the needs of the disadvantaged were ignored. They have no interest in social
issues, much less government concern for the poor. They want social aid to be
limited to private charities, and not government. 
 


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on August 30, 2021, 01:00:49 pm

The GOP can deny global warming, but weather extremes due to warmer temps
continue around the world. Hurricane IDA  is just the last example. If we continue
to elect these greedy idiots, our children will pay in the not to distant future.

Over 90% of those hospitalized for covid19 haven't been vaccinated. In most
cases these people could have been vaccinated, but decided to put themselves
and others at risk by refusing vaccinations.

If your wondering if I  have been vaccinated, I have, and I wear a mask when I am
out around other people, mostly for their protection. Yes wearing a mask is a pain,
but we all must work to stop this pandemic.

GOP members apparently have no shame with their finger pointing. Moscow Mitch and
 his cronies are trying to put blame on president Biden for the ISIS K bombing. 
This is shameful with fallen soldiers arriving home. It's time the country stands
together, and not placing blame much less the GOP playing politics.

The GOP used to be patriotic, but no more. It's all about themselves, and the
power they can gain. It appears the party has been taken over by white
supremacist who have no interest in social issues much less the needs of
minorities.

If the radicals of the GOP gain even more control of the party, we can expect an
even greater loss of rights for minorities. Not only that, but some of the misled
radicals may commit attacks, thinking  it shows support for leaders. Just like the
followers of ISIS have done. Anytime a radical group gains power there will be
followers who will do terrible things in support of the group. I fear we will see more
of this if the GOP continues to gain power.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 03, 2021, 01:01:20 pm

It appears the far right radicals of the GOP have made it all but impossible to get
an abortion in Texas. The GOP controlled legislature have passed a law allowing
any citizen in Texas to sue anyone who provides or assists women to have an
abortion who is 6 weeks pregnant. The supporters of this law know it's very
difficult for a doctor to tell if a woman is pregnant prior to 6 weeks.

I have a hunch this bounty hunter law is going to overload the justice system
because once people figure out that they can sue just about any transportation
system for assisting women wanting an abortion, and get paid to do it. There will
be loads of  lawsuits by people out to get rich. This will likely include buses, taxis,
uber drivers, friends, and relatives of women suspected of being pregnant and out to 
get an abortion. Even though most will be thrown
out each suit will have to be
looked at by a judge. Those not thrown out will take hours if not days to adjudicate.

The supreme court could have prevented the enforcement of this law, but several
of the justices are personally against abortion, so they refused to block the law.
The Democrats should expand the supreme court to make it harder for these self
righteous justices to misuse their powers. They should be impeached for making
judgments based on personal beliefs. But it would be virtually impossible to
get the GOP to  support any impeachment of a conservative justice.

Personally I am not in favor of abortion,  but it's not my place to tell a woman
when she should have a baby, much less the state. The hypocrites who claim they
are trying to protect the unborn, often forget about the child once born, by failing
to support food and health programs for needy children.

In the future when science has developed the means to move a fetus to an
artificial womb, or a surrogate. Then laws to protect the unborn would be much
more valid. Until then such laws punish women to protect the beliefs of a hard
right minority.  The sad thing  is it mainly affects the poor as the rich can travel to
--avoid such laws when the poor cannot.

The GOP has a habit of punishing people for being poor. Allowing women who
can afford to avoid this law shows how hypocritical the GOP is. I am sure if the
truth was known, they don't want to punish women for getting an abortion to
protect their rich friends, and even women they personally have sex with. Otherwise they would allow the justice system to charge women for having
abortion. After all it's women who want abortions, not doctors or other medical
practitioners.

When Trump was running for the office of president, he was asked if he felt
women should be punished for having abortions, and he said yes. However soon
after he changed his mind. Apparently because the GOP told him it would likely
cost him millions of votes.

The GOP have been using abortion and other things that largely only affect the 
poor for many years to aid them in winning elections. This disgusting treatment of
the poor should cost them elections instead. Sadly many religious leaders mislead
their followers so they will support the GOP. After all most religions
support helping the poor, in spite of the GOP's wishes.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 06, 2021, 12:49:08 pm


Sadly the age old fear that immigrants will take power away from white people
continues each time there is a large  number of immigrants entering the country.
Then of course the GOP climbs on this band wagon with  hopes to  use it to
get more support from voters. The GOP has no shame when it comes to using
peoples fears to get more votes. They consistently do this for most anything they
think will gain them support. Now with Trump's help along with far right extremist
they are using gangster style  threats and lies with the hope to cover up the bad
behavior of their party and that of big business.

It's unfortunate, but since most republicans are politically more active than
Democrats, they often win elections even though they are in the minority. Due to
this they are able to pass laws that only have minority support. Not only that
they generally support the rich and big corporations who help them win elections.
This help often hurts the poor and disadvantaged who can't afford to stand up
to big money concerns.

The 2020 election  has sent chills through the GOP as many more people voted.
The GOP knows their hold on power depends on a low voter turnout. So over
the past several months GOP controlled  states have made voting more difficult
especially for minority voters. It was these voters who help Biden become president.  Much
to the dismay of Trump and the GOP.

The Delta variant of covid19 continues to rage across the nation. Sadly this and
other issues is hurting the presidents popularity. Seems when there are problms \
people are ready to blame the people in power, when many times it's their own
fault. I am sure some would say they didn't start wars,  but their vote can put
people inn power that can start them.

People chose Trump with the hope of change. They failed to believe he is a self
centered man who wishes to take permanent control of the country. He still plans
to turn the country into an autocracy with him as an autocratic leader. If he manages to return to  power, he will do all he can to become an autocrat with the
GOP as the one and only party controlling the country. If this was to happen we
would lose the right to decide how we are treated by the  government.


We thought we had a senate controlled by the Democrats, but sadly two fake
Democrats showed up. One from west virginia and the other from Arizona. Due
to this president Biden has been limited on legislation in the senate. These two
senators aren't republicans, but their lack of support is allowing the GOP to stop
needed legislation.  Voting rights and has put limits on the infrastructure bill.
Also is preventing any change to the filibuster rules. We can only wonder why this
senator from west virginia is failing to support the president. He claims he is
against increasing the national debt, but is he being bribe or under threat to  help
the GOP? All I can say is he should lose his senate seat to a real Democrat during
his next run for office. It would be good if the same could happen in Arizona as
well.

If voters don't remove the current GOP leaders from power, we could see the end
of our democracy in a few years. Some evangelical leaders preach that the
country was started with the support of GOD. These people need to study
their American history. This country was started by people wanting religious
freedom. Not to support any one religious group. Still if it was left to some groups
the country would be under religious control. Much like some of the countries of
the middle east.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on September 07, 2021, 01:52:30 pm
The governor of Texas just signed a voting restriction law. Good news for all the conspiracy theorists everywhere!!! Now what are they going to do if they still lose? It's a joke. Everything on that bill is a joke. Everything. Even the laws making mail in voting harder. Every bit of that bill is an absolute joke.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 10, 2021, 11:53:43 am

President Biden is trying to get more people vaccinated. This isn't going to be easy
as many GOP supporters consider vaccinations a political ploy. Not only that
many people no longer trust the government, that and would rather believe the
lies they see on the internet.  It's a shame people use the internet to prevent
needed vaccinations thatt can help put an end to this pandemic.

After the presidents speech the GOP and far right  went nuts claiming he did not 
have the right  to force people to be vaccinated. Well surprise surprise, yes he and
the government does have the  right to protect people from the nay sayeres of our
country. This is why we have seat belts in cars, and why vaccinations are required
for children entering schools. This is why OSHA requires businesses to provide
safety for workers. All to protect the public from those who care nothing for others
if it costs them money. The idea that the GOP cares so little for people, even for
those who would likely vote for them. This isn't new they opposed Medicare, with
claims it would harm the country.

Over the years a number of people have decided vaccinations cause more
disease than they prevent. Sadly these people are using the internet to mislead
the public. Trying to turn people away from the vaccinations that can save their
lives. To date over 650,000 people have died from covid19, yet people still want
to mislead the public about this disease.

Sadly many people end up sick in a hospital before they are willing to believe
covid19 is a real disease that can kill. Due to this many people  suffer needlessly
from covid19. No longer is this a disease that mostly affects the elderly. Now
almost a third of those getting sick are young people, and teenagers. The delta
variation of covid19 is much more likely to infect children than the original virus.
So the need for masks and vaccines is even greater no matter what the GOP claims.   
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 16, 2021, 12:56:29 pm


If Democrats acted anything like the GOP, the republicans would be claiming
the Democrats care nothing for the people of this country. If Trump had been a
Democrat, the GOP would have tried to impeach him during his first year in
office. If Democrat governors treated the people of their states the way GOP
governors have, they all would be up for recall elections. If there was evidence
the Democrats had any thin to do with the January 6 attack on the U S capital the
GOP would be trying to remove them from office in stead of trying to  cover up
their own involvement.

This isn't the first time in American history where the GOP has tried to take
singular control of the country. This could mean the demise of the party if the
people realize the GOP is out to get rid of our federal system in favor of a
autocratic dictatorship.

The sad thing about Trump is he doesn't care about his supporters. Oh he
pretends to care, but if he was to become an autocratic dictator these supporters
would suddenly find Trump's support for them gone. Trump decided to blame the
current president for leaving high tech hardware in Afghanistan. This is totally
hypocritical because he was getting ready to do the very same thing on May 1 if he
had been re elected. Also the hardware we left behind was rendered useless and
if would be very difficult and expensive to make the high tech equipment useful 
again. Much less the training needed to  operate it.


The terrible thing about  his speech is it was more about him than those who have
suffered over the last 20 years since 9-11. His speeches always follow this line. It's
always about him and the fantasy of his greatness. Sadly his supporters continue
to see Trump as the nations savior. When in reality Trump cares nothing about
anyone, but himself.  If the GOP foolishly nominate Trump to run for president
again, and loses, we can be sure he will attempt to claim it was stolen from him
once again, because he hates to lose, much less admit it.  He is claiming  the GOP
recall loss in California  was due to voter fraud, even though the loss was
nearly 2 to one.  It seems the GOP plans to claim voter fraud even when the loss is big.
In reality the only time voter fraud would have any validity is in a close election,
not in a virtual landslide.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 19, 2021, 01:27:08 pm

I think most republicans have unfortunately been misled by Trump and other GOP
leaders who are more interested in power and money, than what is good for the
people of the U S A.  Now the GOP leadership is trying to hide the far right
violence that Trump instigated against the nations capital on January 6 with hopes
of turning the Novamber election to his favor. This black lie by Trump and the GOP
is up against video that proves the violence in spite of their lies.

White supremacist fear the loss of political power across the nation. So they are
trying to keep what power they have by lying to their supporters. Not only that, but
in states they control, they are passing laws they hope will keep the Democrats
from winning elections that will cost the far right the power they have.

This is why we must vote to remove these cowards from seats of power, or we
risk the loss of our democracy. Democrats are far from being perfect, but at least
they care more for the needs of people than the current GOP leadership does. A
leadership that supports the rich, fearing the poor will drag down the country that is
helping themselves and the rich get richer.

So they tell their supporters only they can keep the country and economy strong
because the Democrats are only interested in giving money to the lazy poor
and taxing the hard working rich people to cover the cost. They don't want to talk
about how little these so called hard working rich people actually pay in taxes. Sadly

only the rich will benefit from Trump's control of the GOP. Trump's promises to
the
 average republican, mostly end up being lies. I fear by the time his supporters
realize they are being sold a song and dance filled with lies it will be too late to
stop Trump's GOP from taking over the country.

Now the GOP is claiming all these immigrants are only here to help the Democrats
win elections. Because the Democrats want to take control from the good honest
GOD fairing white majority. It is so sad that to please Trump the GOP will tell one
lie after another. This voting claim by immigrants is nothing but a lie designed
to scare republican voters with the hope they will vote in larger numbers. Because

to vote you must be a citizen of the country, and it often  takes  years for a legal
immigrant to become a citizen in spite of GOP lies.

Minority leaderMoscow Mitch made the claim that the GOP would not
vote to raise the U S debt ceiling. This claim is nonsense, because it would
basically 
shut down the government
once the spending limit was reached. Something the GOP would not want on their
head. In reality the debt ceiling should
be raised high enough to stop this nonsense of having to raise the ceiling so
often. Because politicians will never want to vote to shut down the country anyway.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 22, 2021, 11:22:58 am
Donald Trump's coup attempt back on Jan. 6th never really ended. It's still ongoing.  :o

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/09/20/trump-letter-raffensperger-georgia-election-decertify-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/dekalb-trump-letter-fact-check/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-full-memo-pence-overturn-election/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/donald-trump-new-revelations/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 24, 2021, 09:55:58 am
Draft report of the sham Arizona audit is out and...........TRUMP WON! NOT!  :D

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/donald-trump-elections-texas-arizona-president-joe-biden/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/arizona-election-review-results/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 24, 2021, 01:17:54 pm

Yes a favorable result for Trump was expected
to please their lord Trump and his followers. I
understand the result has been called into question
already by the attorney General. Also other GOP states
plan to have election reviews of their own. They will
run into legal trouble if they try the same thing.

It would appear the GOP is willing to let the government partly be shut down in
stead of voting for the presidents budget. We can be sure they will blame him in
stead of doing their job. They don't care if the U S credit rating drops, increasing
interest costs for the country. Just shows their complaints about the national debt
is a bunch of lies.  Past actions show they only worry about the national debt
when it makes them look good. Otherwise they don't care at all.

The GOP governor of Texas seems to want to be a Trump clone. Working hard
to limit voting, stop abortion by the poor, immigration, and anything else to please
the GOP's lord and master  Trump.

Now just about every other GOP governor is wanting to copy the Texas governor
to please the lord and master Trump. A man who really does want to be a lord over
the nation. Not only that he wants to create a Trump dynasty so his oldest son can
replace him when he decides to retire.

Indo China has long been an interest  of France. So it's no wonder that France is
upset because they weren't included in talks about the defense of the area. It's not
just sales of submarines to Australia that upset them, even though they should
have been invited to share in any decision. Especially since they have been close allies
of ours since the founding of our country.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on September 24, 2021, 02:44:38 pm
So the conspiracy backed count backfired. Now they are trying to say this count didn't count. Even funnier is the idea that other states are looking into doing the same thing. Just how many times does a guy want to loose? The only thing they can go on now is to claim even the re counts are rigged. How? Deny the fact that it was a conspiracy backed Trump praised organization that did the count. Make it sound as if this Trump praised stunt was actually done by the democrats. Everyone saw that coming.

Let's look at this in a different light. It may be an attempt by the republican party to prove Trump lost. Let Trump pic who's doing the count. Because everyone knows Trump is smarter than everyone. He will know who will do the count right.  Folks, both sides of the political news spectrum are blowing things way out of proportion. Even CNN is faulting like a lawn mower running out of gas on this. Sensationalism hurts this country. Doesn't matter who side your on. Fear based broadcasting does nothing but destroy the lives of those who are watching. Treat all "expert" opinions as nothing more than farting in the wind.

Looks like other republican messes are being cleaned up as well. Teachers and school officials who defied republican mandates are receiving back pay.

Apparently the republican party loves to loose.  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 26, 2021, 06:05:49 pm
Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot when they enact voting suppression laws. It can hurt whites just as much as blacks or hispanics.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/25/politics/voter-suppression-white-people-blake/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 27, 2021, 01:24:59 pm

The GOP continue to claim non white votes aren't legitimate, and shouldn't be
counted.  I have said this in the past, the GOP is working to prevent election
losses in the future. Their rich supporters fear wins by Democrats mean
higher
taxes. Not only that, but loss of loop holes in the tax code that could cost them
millions in taxes they currently avoid paying.

Not only that Democrats could change laws to make it harder for the GOP to
do their dirty work. This would make it much harder to harm their
opponents
politically as well. 

If Democrats don't take this attack by the GOP seriously, the
GOP just might win permanent control of the country which would allow them to
pass all kinds of crazy laws. Many would likely take rights away from the poor,
handicapped and all minorities except themselves and the rich. Yes The GOP is in
the minority, about 30% of voters. Without support from non republicans they would
have little control. It's unfortunate so many feel the need to support the GOP. Otherwise
the GOP radicals couldn't do much more than make noise.

Trump is claiming executive  privilege, but since he isn't president any more. only
president Biden can give Trump protection, and he isn't inclined to give it unless
deserved.  I am sure Trump wants to hide his activities as president, just as he
does for  almost every thing he does. Even as a private citizen. During Trump's
presidency, he has fauglt nearly all attempts by congress to investigate his
activities as president or the White House. I am sure he will attempt to stop the release  to congress, but will likely fail.

The GOP is being taught con artistry by Trump. Which is never tell the truth when
ever a lie can be used. Also defend authority figures, no matter how bad they are.
By  blaming  those they harm.  Now the GOP is apparently being told to not
vote to cover the national debt, claiming it should be up to the Democrats to do
because they spent the money. Well the national debt is the business of
 government, not a political party as the GOP claims. So if the debt ceiling fails to
be raised, every member of congress or the senate who fails to vote to raise the
debt should be held responsible for any trouble this causes the nation. Of course
the GOP want to blame the Democrats for any and all problems the GOP can
 create. In my  opinion this kind of politics is un American, and puts our economy
and country at an unnecessary risk.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on September 27, 2021, 01:52:15 pm

The GOP continue to claim non white votes aren't legitimate, and shouldn't be
counted.  I have said this in the past, the GOP is working to prevent election
losses in the future. Their rich supporters fear wins by Democrats mean higher
taxes. Not only that, but loss of loop holes in the tax code that could cost them
millions in taxes they currently avoid paying.

Not only that Democrats could change laws to make it harder for the GOP to
do their dirty work. This would make it much harder to harm their opponents
politically as well. 

If Democrats don't take this attack by the GOP seriously, the
GOP just might win permanent control of the country which would allow them to
pass all kinds of crazy laws. Many would likely take rights away from the poor,
handicapped and all minorities except themselves and the rich. Yes The GOP is in
the minority, about 30% of voters. Without support from non republicans they

would have little control. It's unfortunate so many feel the need to support the GOP.
Otherwise the GOP radicals couldn't do much more than make noise.

Trump is claiming executive  privilege, but since he isn't president any more. only
president Biden can give Trump protection, and he isn't inclined to give it unless
deserved.  I am sure Trump wants to hide his activities as president, just as he
does for  almost every thing he does. Even as a private citizen. During Trump's
presidency, he has faught nearly all attempts by congress to investigate his
activities as president or the White House. I am sure he will attempt to stop the release  to congress, but will likely fail.

The GOP is being taught con artistry by Trump. Which is never tell the truth when
ever a lie can be used. Also defend authority figures, no matter how bad they are.
By  blaming  those they harm.  Now the GOP is apparently being told to not
vote to cover the national debt, claiming it should be up to the Democrats to do
because they spent the money. Well the national debt is the business of
 government, not a political party as the GOP claims. So if the debt ceiling fails to
be raised, every member of congress or the senate who fails to vote to raise the
debt should be held responsible for any trouble this causes the nation. Of course
the GOP want to blame the Democrats for any and all problems the GOP can
 create. In my  opinion this kind of politics is un American, and puts our economy and country at an unnecessary risk.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on September 27, 2021, 07:28:36 pm
Repubs just killed the bill........which I knew they would. :(

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/27/politics/senate-debt-limit-shutdown-vote/index.html
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 04, 2021, 05:09:02 pm

 The GOP and Trump supporters all claim they are out to protect their rights. Well
that is all well and good, but others should be able to stand up for their rights
as well. If Democrats allow the GOP to gain the power to pass conservative  laws
for the purpose of holding power, this country could become an theocratic
autocracy. Many people would unfortunately support religious laws as they did in
the past to stop life styles of the LGBTQ. and many other rights by a lot of
people. Most of these people who claim they are against the LGBTQ are hypocrites, because they like many people enjoy the same things hiding behind closed doors. A practice sometimes done by the far right. Not
counting their evening visits where some secretly pay for sex.

It's so sad how the GOP punishes the poor of this country with their lies that claim
the Democrats are wanting to create a socialist society. Whet the Democrats want is a long ways from socialism. Socialism is where the government owns all businesses,and  land, along with the distribution of products and food stuffs. Much
the same as communism.

The Democrats mainly wish to maintain a balance of society, to keep a small
percentage of the rich from taking control of the economy. Capitalism and material-ism are fine,but must be controlled or a few will take advantage of those
who are unable to defend themselves against the rich.

Greed causes some people to steal and others to kill. It's why we must have laws
designed to control those who otherwise use greed to control others. Sadly it's
greed that gives people the desire to be creative, but it doesn't stop there. In the
past many successful people have let greed use their creative genius to harm
 others and still do. Requiring laws to stop these very people from ruining  the economy.

For many years now these people have slowly used the GOP to gain power so
they can control the lawmaking process for their own benefit. They chose the GOP
because the party already favored the rich over the middle class. Since many
in the upper middle class see themselves getting rich, they tend to favor laws that the rich support. There again it's greed that helps the rich gain power so they can
 take advantage of those who have no power or understand politics well enough \
to vote against those who use lies for their own benefit.

Now the GOP is claiming the Delta surge of covid19 is due to immigrants and
tourists. This is nonsense as tourists and immigrants are tested for covid19. It's
just more GOP crap to feed their supporters.  If anyone is responsible for  spreading covid19 its likely GOP supporters who refuse to get vaccinated. Sadly these people due to misinformation fail to
follow advice by CDC that would protect them and family from
covid19. I had hoped the internet would help spread facts, not
miss information , seems some people enjoy seeing others hurt.
So they spread lies online.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on October 08, 2021, 05:05:22 am
Trump is threatening using executive order to keep the Jan 6 committee from gaining evidence against him. If he doesn't have anything to hide than why is he trying so hard to hide it? DOJ should take over. Or become part of the Jan 6 committee and work with them. It's hammer time for Trump.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 08, 2021, 04:22:15 pm
I really wish somebody would just arrest Trump and cart him off to jail. The sooner it's done, the better.
I'm sick and tired of Trump getting away with just about everything and not being held accountable for his actions. People who support him need to stop enabling him.  >:(
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 10, 2021, 01:00:21 pm

Violence  due to handguns is increasing as the GOP is allowing people to carry
them without being licensed. I know many people feel they should have a right to
carry them, but some people can't keep their anger under control, and have no
business with a handgun at the ready. The process of licensing usually can
determine who should not carry one, and goes a long ways in preventing someone
from using a handgun while
angry.

The GOP threat to not raise the national debt, trying to  harm the Democrats will
harm the country much more, and not only that it will damage the economy and the
millions who depend on retirement. Not only social security, but salaries for our
armed forces and their retirement and payments for the equipment they depend on.

It appears a drop in the stock market got the GOP's attention, because suddenly
they have come up with a deal to extend the debt ceiling till early December.
Just shows who is controlling the GOP. Because the stock market is at the heart of
the richest people, and they tell the GOP what to do.

The GOP's attack on abortion is relay the far right playing up to the evangelicals,
because they don't really have any other policy people really care about enough to get republicans out to vote in the numbers the far right needs to win.

 If Americans let the GOP's fear of losing  power destroy our democracy to gain one party rule.
Individual rights will be lost, because the far right will take them
away from those they hate.

If the American people fail to kick the far right out of the GOP, this country is in
trouble. Not only that, without a strong American democracy the world is headed
for another world war. A war that could end life on our planet. At  least ending life
for the vast majority of mankind.

It's
been the strength of NATO and the U S that have likely convinced countries
under the control of autocrats from getting the idea they could take over neighboring countries with
impunity.

 In the past wars generally started with the invasion by an aggressive
neighbor. One thing would lead to another and the whole region
could find it's self at war. Before nuclear weapons wars generally only
affected small areas of the planet, but could easily affect the  entire world now.

One man rule may be easier, but never good for a country. One man just isn't
smart enough, and usually allows greed to control his decisions, and greed is
never good for a leader, much less the country he rules.


Trump's failing was due to greed, and those who follow him will likely wish they

never knew him in the end. Because if Trump is able to run for president again,
and wins, he plans to use that power to punish those who didn't help him stay in
office. Even if he fails to get the votes, he will try to use political  power to
regain the power his sick mind desires.

Trump's control of his followers is strange in that they claim they don't trust
government, yet they are willing to trust Trump. A man who lies every time he
opens his mouth. The big reason he wants to hide what he does is so he can
lie about it. If the Democrats fail to get tough with the GOP and Trump, this country
is in real trouble, because the  GOP is learning Trump's dirty tricks, and is more
than willing to use them.




Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 17, 2021, 12:07:07 pm


Trump's control of his followers is strange in that they claim they don't trust
government, yet they are willing to trust Trump. A man who lies every time he
opens his mouth. The big reason he wants to hide what he does is so he can
lie about it. If the Democrats fail to get tough with the GOP and Trump, this country
is in real trouble, because the  GOP is learning Trump's dirty tricks, and is more
than willing to use them.

If Trump regains the White House and control of the legislature, he will do all he
can to turn the country into an autocracy with him as it's leader. Think the military
will protect the country? Think again, because Trump will put it under the control
of his supporters first, because he now  knows it's the only way to gain real
-control of the country, and would have 4 years to pack it with support
for
him.

We should remember when Trump became president, he had little idea of what he

could do. So by the time he found out, he didn't have time to use the power to
gain full control of the military, as he likely thought he already had it. This was likely because
he had no real idea he could win, and by the time he felt he could
he didn't take the time to learn about how our government works. He spent the first
2 years trying to run the office of president just as he had his businesses he failed at. Because he
Trump just wants to be a big shot playboy and little
else. So the
great pretender just played being president, because he had little idea
how to otherwise.


The worst part is Trump is a first class con artist, and has convinced millions of
people he is good for the country, which he definitely is not due to the fact he  is
mentally ill. Sadly his followers don't want to believe this, which makes it just bat
much worse with the GOP using Trump trying to gain permanent power over the
country, to benefit the richest 5% of Americans. Leaving the rest of us to exist the
best way we can, and by the time Trump supporters realize what he and the GOP are really up to, our democracy and constitution  may be lost.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 22, 2021, 12:57:33 pm

Sorry about the text layout I can't see
well enough to make it neat.

Climate is the highest priority for the world governments to deal with. Sadly
the pretend Democrat from west Virginia is known as Joe Coal. Since The state
is a big coal producer he is pushing for the  expansion  of coal use, and as coal is
big business, the producers support senator Joe Mansion with money for his re election. Unfortunately many corporations have little interest in protection of the
climate. To those who control the operation of these polluters, money is what they care about. So they do what they can to elect those who work to help them make
more money, and let the losers  worry about the climate.

 The GOP controlled states complain that the Democrats are out to take states 
rights by telling their people they must be vaccinated against covid19. The GOP
claim their people must have the right to choose, and not be forced to be
vaccinated. as they should have a right to control what happens to their body. Yet
the very same GOP wish to take the rights of women to choose what happens to
their body from them. They claim it is to save lives, well requiring people to be
vaccinated is to save lives as well. But the GOP ignore this in hope of gaining
support to be elected again.

Trump and the GOP are working hard to convince people that the Democrats are socialists. While Democrats support social issues much more than the GOP does,
they are far from true socialists who want the government to run and own everything.


While the GOP is a big supporter of business, in the past they supported the small buisnessman. Now it seems they are more for the big corporations to the detriment
 of the environment and the little guy. I think some of us can remember when
businesses cared about those they served more than making big profits. Now I am not against making a good living, but over the years it seems big business is
are more interested in big profits than being a good neighbor, and the GOP has lost  interest in protecting the
public
from greedy corporations, in favor of big money and power.


It's time we let the GOP know that protecting the people is the job of government.
Not to help the rich get richer on the backs of the people who work hard to make
ends meet each month. It's time we make the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Not to support people like Trump who play and take, while the little people must work
hard and pay more and more.

It's sad how the far right lie to support the GOP and Trump. Their radical beliefs are bad for the
country. They want to use division, religion,  and  the GOP to gain
political power. They know they are a small minority  who would have little chance to gain

power otherwise.

These people aren't  new, they have been around since the beginning of the
nation.
 They hate anyone who is different, be it race or lifestyle. Now with the white population
soon to lose political power, their
worst fears are soon to be  realized. So they are working hard to take political power away
from the Democrats. To
the give the GOP single party control of the country. A party mostly controlled by
the white population, and the far right.

Single party control of the country  was tried in the past, and led to a civil war that
nearly divided the country. I fear history could repeat it's self if enough voters
fail to  support the Democrats over the far right controlled GOP. So time will tell
what happens to the country. Let's hope the far right fail in their effort to create an
autocracy run by Trump and the GOP.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on October 29, 2021, 01:25:31 pm



As I have said in the past, women should decide how they are treated. But
for centuries, men continue to claim control over women, and many women continue to
let men get by with it. Sometimes I think a lot of women like the idea of
letting men control their lives. I know some women let their husbands tell them
how to vote. The problem is most GOP states are run by men, and they have little
interest in women's rights. We can see that by how long it took to give women the

vote. They virtually had to make men sleep by themselves to get it done.

In the days when Trump claimed America was great, most girls were taught by
their mothers to play dumb and helpless around men. Not allowing men to feel
superior to them, in most cases would make it very hard to find a good man that
would marry them. And in those days a single woman found it difficult to make
a
good living for themselves. I am sure most women that let men control their lives
feel it's the only way to have a nice life. Then I imagine some feel it's the proper
way for women to live. I am sure religion plays a big part in this.

I have a hunch most of Trump's supporters like the idea of having a
wife who
acts more like a slave. I am sure Trump does. it's part of his making America great
again thinking. After all he was for turning Afghanistan over to people who want
total control over women.


Colin powell past away, in spite of Trump's disgusting comments about this man, he was a
great man who returned respect to our military after the Vietnam war. A
man who helped prevent the cold war from becoming hot. This man shows us
just how disgusting Trump really is, and how bad the GOP has
become.
We must stand up against the far right control of the GOP. Other wise the work of
a  great man like Powell and other men like him will be lost.
The supporters of Trump may think he is what this country needs, but he is using
them for his own benefit, not theirs. The GOP only supports Trump to gain support
from Trump's followers. They want to use them to keep the Democrats from taking
power from the GOP, who is currently dominated by white extremest. People who
care nothing for the rights of the LGBTQ, woman, people of color,and minorities.


Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 05, 2021, 12:48:41 pm


The conservative movement in our country appears determined to keep people
of color from voting in numbers that could defeat the GOP. A party that seems  to
only want whites to run our  country.

The GOP leadership want to limit the teaching of slavery and discrimination in our
nations past. I think they are afraid if our young people learn how white
extremists treated people of color after the civil war. They would lose
 future support of the far right to Democrats.

If we fail to teach our young people the history of slavery and discrimination that
existed in our countries past, It will likely be repeated. Because it's the only way
to show people just how bad slavery, and discrimination is. Sadly many people
wish to hide the facts so they can be repeated, because they don't want to
compete with people they don't like, because they are different or won't
follow their way of thinking. Not only that, but many people want  to blame people
they don't like for their  own failures.

 An example of this occurred in Tulsa Oklahoma one hundred years ago. Where
a suburb of mostly black people was attacked by white extremists. this black
community was litterer destroyed and hundreds killed. All because the blacks had
the audacity to be successful in spite of white claims that blacks are ignorant.
As bad as this was, the greater tragedy was how  it was 
covered up by so called law abiding citizens of this city.

It is a shame, but it seems down through the history of  our great country there
have always been those who hate people who are different. Either by race, culture,
religion, or lifestyle.  Sadly the GOP has decided to use these terrible people for
their own benefit. With the help of Trump, the GOP found they can gain power with
lies and false claims. To use the internet to spread conspiracies and with the help
of the far right to convince the public to vote for the GOP with claims it's for the
good of the country. In reality the good is for the GOP and it's rich supporters.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 08, 2021, 12:51:01 pm


Many Hispanics have moved here from countries run by governments who claim
to be socialist. So they fear socialism, or anyone connected to socialist ideas. So
the GOP paints Democrats as socialists with the hope to gain votes from 
Hispanics.

Because of this Democrats must educate Hispanics the difference between
their social programs and socialism. Otherwise Democrats will lose many Hispanic

votes to the GOP.   This is why the GOP has held on to Florida, due to the GOP
claims that Democrats are socialists. If Democrats fail to educate Hispanics they
will lose other states to the GOP as well.

The GOP uses abortion, freedom to decide to get vaccinated, claims that the
Democrats are out to take your guns, along with anything including lies, that will
get voters out to the polls. If the Democrats fail to use issues that will get their
supporters out to vote, the GOP will retake both the house and senate in 2022.

Then they will make sure nothing gets done that might help the needy people of
this country. Not only that, they will stop any hearings that might hurt the GOP or
 Trump. Because the GOP and Trump want to cover up the truth.
 
The Democrats have passed a infrastructure bill. If they don't educate the public
about how this bill helps the nation. You can be sure the GOP will try to make it
look bad for the country. Because they know this passage makes the GOP out to
be the bad guys if they don't. Because the GOP leadership did their best to
prevent it's passage.

The GOP's big tax cut for the rich and big business is the main reason Trump
never seriously tried to get an infrastructure bill passed when he was president.
because his tax cut was more important to the GOP, big business, and him than
infrastructure for the good of the country.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 14, 2021, 12:51:52 pm

I fear little if anything will be done to curb global warming until it's too late to
prevent coastal flooding around the world. Powerful nations have little interest in
protecting island nations and poor countries. It's all about power and money for
the rich. People who could care less if someone dies due the heat, or loses their
property to flooding.

Trump continues his attempts to hide his actions in the white house during the
January attack on the U S capital. Trump has used the courts throughout his adult
life to get what he wants, either with his money or his influence. In this case the
GOP is out to help him cover up the truth, with a host of conservative GOP judges

they appointed to do the job. If nothing else they hope to  delay any decision
until 2023, where they hope to have won back the house, and put
a stop to all investigations about the January insurrection.

Also Trump continues to mislead his supporters about the law with his attempts
to protect those who are willing to break the law to protect him. Trump made the
claim that the  stock market would crash if Biden was elected. We can see that
claim was nonsense, along with about every claim he makes. Just as his lie that
the election was stolen from him is nonsense as well.

I find it sad that the public can watch the GOP block the Democrats and still blame
the Democrats for not getting much if anything done. After all if the Democrats ideas
were so bad, why don't the GOP just let them make a big mess. No,
because they know allowing the Democrats to pass these aid and  tax bills would set
the GOP back for many years. Not only that their rich  and big business friends would  have to start
paying the taxes they should be paying.  Also the health insurance and the
pharmaceutical industry would
see losses in  big profits after
being required to charge fair prices. Also the GOP would see a big reduction in corporate donations
to their party, and we know they wouldn't want
that to happen.

It's time the GOP was punished for selling out to big corporations just to get paid
for it.  Not only that they should be punished for consorting with white supremacist.
If they are allowed to continue this dirty work, the good people  of this country will
suffer because of it. The Republican party doesn't have to play these dirty games
to hold power. All they have to  do is work for the people in stead of themselves
and the plutocrats they
support.

The last place to have plutocrats is in government. Because they think they deserve
a better deal than the rest of us.  The GOP is loaded with them, and they
are out to give themselves all the power they can. I am not against people making
a good living,but I am against plutocrats getting a better deal than the average
person from the government.

The public seems to think the government can stop inflation, but if they started
putting price controls on everything, it  could damage the economy. Besides it's
it's the public who can put a stop to inflation by a reduction  in spending.
During 2020 the economy was slowed by a big reduction in spending due to
covid19.  Then this spring we saw a big slowdown for the virus, and spending
began to surge because of pent up demand. Now with the holiday season coming,
demand is even greater. this demand is causing shortages in shipping, which in
turn is driving prices higher. A kind of inflation that only a slowdown in demand
can cure. Of course the GOP wants to put the blame on the Democrats in
stead,  for political gain, and they do little if anything to curb inflation themselves.



Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on November 19, 2021, 01:21:17 pm

I fear if the Democrats fail to get tough with the GOP, they will lose control of
both the House and Senate in the mid term election. Because the GOP will do
what ever it takes to win next year. Not for the good of the country, but for their
own good and that of their plutocrat supporters nation wide.

Sadly it seems people look up to the rich, as if they do some of their wealth might rub off on them. Or perhaps gain some thing from them if they do them a favor.
Since the GOP is filled with plutocrats, many people vote for them with the hope
of  some gain, and many think rich people are smart. Well being rich is often due to luck more than brains, or their parentage.

When Trump ran to be president, he said he would appoint the  smartest people.
In stead he appointed a bunch of plutocrats who were mostly out to make gains
for themselves in stead of the country. It's sad but true, the rich often look out for
themselves more than anyone else. Think not, just look at history, nearly all rich
people stepped on others for their own advantage, and most of them as most rich
do, feel they deserve special treatment over the lower classes.

Trump claimed he would work harder than any other president if elected. As it
turned out he was the laziest president in history. Traveling to his Florida estate to
play golf and party every chance he got. Proving to be a playboy con artist more
than anything else. Too lazy to read, people had to put reports on video so Trump
could sit back and see and hear it on television. Wanting almost total secrecy,
he often tried to throw reports and presidential papers away. Not caring that such
 reports and papers had  to be kept by law. He felt as president he was above the
law, and often tried to brake rules and laws for his own benefit.

If it wasn't for the far right news casts, it's doubtful Trump or the GOP would do very
well at the ballot box. As is they broadcast lies supporting the GOP and Trump
virtually every day. The problem is they use wording that appeals to the
conservative crowd of people in a way that is misleading in hope they will
support the GOP over the Democrats.

Sadly republicans are generally more  politically active than Democrats. this tends
to give the GOP an advantage, even though they are in the minority. Unless
the Democrats take voting more serious the GOP could win by default. It's a
shame, but historically the GOP has little interest in those in need. They look at
them as lazy people who are a drag on the economy.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 03, 2021, 12:56:18 pm

Personally I think we need to stop  any and all vigilantism in this country. Because
most people that involve themselves in private enforcement of the law, usually go
too far, just as these 3 men in Georgia did. Even well trained policemen and police women
allow themselves to go too far at times. We are all human   and subject to human   failure,  So law enforcement should be limited to well trained people.

As long as people see the black race as being overly aggressive  , I fear black people
will have a hard time getting  justice in this country. It will take more than a Democrat in the
White House to put laws in effect to protect the rights of people of color. Because the GOP is out
to win votes, and they see the support of people of color costing them a lot of votes by people who hate blacks and other people of color. So people of color and others who support them need to use their votes  to remove the conservative radicals from the
republican party, local state, and federal. If we
don't I fear we will soon be a one party autocracy, headed  for a possible  civil war.

As I have said in the past, I am not a fan of abortion, but the GOP seems to only be
interested  in keeping the poor from getting abortions. Women who can afford  to travel are free
to get one any time they wish, by leaving the state, or the country.
 If the GOP would punish women instead of doctors or clinics, then the law would treat all women the same , no  matter where they got one. But no, as this would cost the GOP support from a  lot of women.
When   Trump started to run for president he publicly  said women should be punished , but the GOP
told  him this would likely cost him the election, so he changed his mind about punishing women for abortions.  This alone is proof that the GOP is only against abortion to get votes from the far right and
the rich. They aren't worried about the poor, as they often don't even vote.

All this aside making abortion illegal is a mistake in my opinion. Just as laws making theft illegal doesn't
keep people from stealing, laws against abortion won't stop women who want one from getting an
abortion. They will do it themselves or pay a crook to do it for them. In fact making it illegal will
likely increase the number of abortions, because doctors and clinics won't be available to talk
women out of having one. Sadly radicals who imagine laws will stop all abortions are  unwilling
to listen to anything but their own nonsense. So with a conservative supreme court abortion
will likely be made illegal once more, and women will suffer for it. some will even die attempting it
themselves or by someone who only wants to make a buck, and the radicals or the
GOP could care less.
 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on December 08, 2021, 12:46:56 pm

I fear if the GOP retake the house in 2022, nothing will get done, because  they want to  win the white  house in 2024. Because they want full control of the government. If this happens it will be a 
disaster for the needy and those who depend on the government for survival. If you think there are  a
lot of homeless people now, you haven't seen anything yet. Because the GOP doesn't care
about the homeless, or the poor. They just want to lower taxes for themselves and  their rich friends.

Much of the support for the GOP is from people who only care about themselves. and no one  else. 
these are the people who don't want the government to tell them anything. To wear a mask, or to
get
 vaccinated. These are the people who claim abortion kills babies, but they don't care about the risk
child birth is to the life of a woman. Some even think a woman should give up their life
to save the life of the unborn.

People should remember that it was the feeling that the federal government had no business telling them
what to do that started the civil war. The support that the GOP is giving these radicals is very
dangerous for the country. Because it encourages GOP controlled states to do the same for
radicals in their own state. If the GOP continue using this to win elections, they could lose
control of the radical element, which could lead to nation wide violence against our
government, much as we saw last January.

The Covid19 Delta version is still the major  cause of sickness and death so far   here in the U S.
 Turns out in counties that Trump won in 2020 have 3 times the deaths for voters  for covid19 due to
their  belief in disinformation about the virus.  these same people  apparently failed to    get vaccinated.
So
 many more are getting sick and dying , and spreading the virus as well. Sadly   these people want to
blame the Democrats for letting them get  sick, when it's their own fault by listening to Trump and the
 GOP's lies.
People should care more about others than their own
inconvenience
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on December 08, 2021, 06:10:02 pm
"Slightly" off topic, but the Christmas tree in front of Fox News HQ was lit on fire.  :o :D
Shame it wasn't Trump's Mar-a-lago Christmas tree instead. Would have been funnier.  :D

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/12/08/fox-news-studio-christmas-tree-fire-newday-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Old Rabbit on January 12, 2022, 01:05:23 pm

A year has past since the supporters of Trump attacked  the U S capital. So far the GOP is
claiming it was just a riot that only appeared to support Trump, in spite of claims by the Democrats. As I
have said many times, Trump is a first class con artist. He knew if he claimed his loss wasn't true many of his supporters would want to believe him. Just as they did in his rallies many many times,
and still do. This claim by Trump has  divided the nation, especially since the GOP has mostly supported   this terrible lie.  A lie that could destroy our democracy, and put our country in the hands of a autocracy run by the GOP with Trump at it's head. A man who only cares about himself.


It seems the GOP want  to see more people sick from covid19.  Apparently hoping  Democrats will get
the blame. In my state, the state attorney general is threatening to bring law suits against  those requiring vaccinations or the  wearing of masks, and yes, my state is under GOP control. His big excuse is he  thinks people should have the right to decide to wear a mask or get vaccinated, even if it puts others at risk by failing to do so.

It seems the GOP is  promoting personal rights over public safety, apparently because they expect to gain votes by doing so. Putting public safety at risk for their own benefit is disgusting in my opinion, and should get them kicked out of office, But it seems a lot of people like the idea of  being able to do whatever they like, no matter who it might hurt. Well I fear this will end up destroying democracy by letting
people to disregard the rights of others for their own benefit, and I fear we could end up having another period of civil unrest  if the GOP continue
doing this to get votes.

The GOP needs to remember the last time a party used personal freedoms to win elections
 the party was lost,because most people feel public safety is more important than letting
hard nosed conservative  do whatever they like. This idea of using personal freedoms to gain votes
started with the election of Reagan in 1982, and could end up starting another civil war, as it did before.

Sadly the GOP has always been against helping the poor or the disadvantaged. Using the excuse
that these people are lazy, and mostly choose to be poor, and the country shouldn't tax hard working individuals  to help them.  Even though the GOP only has about 30% of the  population there are enough
 independents  to give the GOP wins around the country. Mostly because the GOP pretends to, or lies
 to deceive  many non republicans to get their support.

After five years  of comments about Trump and the GOP, I am calling it quits. Mainly due to
my failing vision. I may post a few comments along, but no longer on a regular basis. Besides my
comments may harm Furtopia if the public continues to grow more divisive, and it's time others
took up  the battle for the truth. I wish I could see well enough to carry on against those only interested
in power and money. I fear many white people feel threatened by how the country is changing. No
longer  can they depend on having full control of government, and religious  views. Sadly many feel
the need to use violence to prevent these changes. The trouble is violence just brings on  more violence, and gains nothing in the end. Just  as the civil war did. Gaining nothing but death and 
suffering for hundreds of thousands.

Basically it's up to voters, because if people dont vote to save our democracy it will be lost to those who
fear change. Even though these people claim they don't trust government, their support of the GOP and
Trump is handing power to those who plan to take their rights away from them in the end, and once they
have that power, they will control the military to keep  that power, and like all autocracies the people will have no  power at all. Even those who supported the GOP and Trump in the beginning.
 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on February 03, 2022, 03:43:23 pm
I know this isn't exactly about politics, well, sort of. If there was ever a time for a facepalm emote on Furtopia, now would be it.

I can't believe they put the guy who sought to overturn the election and spread conspiracy theories on The Masked Singer show.  :o If you think it's Trump, it's not. But if Trump appeared on the show, the best costume for him would be a baboon.  :D

https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2022/02/03/rudy-giuliani-masked-singer-revealed-judges-storm-off-newday-chloe-melas-intv-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Simo on February 07, 2022, 11:45:51 pm
Old Rabbit: Ever since November, 2016 you have filled 78 pages with DNC talking points and other leftist garbage. How many irretrievable hours have you spent doing this? Does Donald Trump still live rent free inside your head?

You need help with your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on February 24, 2022, 11:41:20 am
My, my, how the shoe is on the other foot now. ;)

Republicans and Trump supporters, and even Trump himself have all called Democratic liberals as "communists/commies" because they want socialist reforms.
But now I've seen in the news where Trump and/or some of his supporters and fellow Republicans have PRAISED Russia for being strong and going into Ukraine, etc.  :o

Gee, who's the communist now?  :D  Sounds to me like Trump and anybody else who supports Russia is a traitor.  >:(

Back in the 1980's, Americans..........and Republicans.........knew who our enemy was during the Cold War. It was the Soviet Union. And it still is today even though it's now called Russia. But apparently Repubs just don't care about what is going on across the world and are still fixated on spreading election conspiracies. They obviously have their priorities screwed up. If Reagan were alive and President, he'd stand up to the Russians. Not cozying up to them the way Trump just did.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Simo on February 24, 2022, 06:40:18 pm
My, my, how the shoe is on the other foot now. ;)
What shoe? What foot? You don't see me filling a thread with post after post after post excoriating President Biden do you? I haven't written WORD ONE about Biden here at Furtopia. I also refuse to allow Biden to live rent free in my head. He'll have his Fifteen Minutes and he will be gone. Same as Trump.
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Republicans and Trump supporters, and even Trump himself have all called Democratic liberals as "communists/commies" because they want socialist reforms.
Isn't a Communist one who wants "socialist reforms"? Sort of goes with the territory    :P
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But now I've seen in the news where Trump and/or some of his supporters and fellow Republicans have PRAISED Russia for being strong and going into Ukraine, etc.  :o

Gee, who's the communist now?  :D  Sounds to me like Trump and anybody else who supports Russia is a traitor.  >:(
I was never a big fan of Trump's. I was pleasantly surprised by a lot of what he accomplished, but now, he's had his Fifteen Minutes; he needs to step aside and let fresh leadership step forward. His cult-like followers are every bit as creepy as the cult-like followers of Barack Obama. At least there are no paintings of a naked Donald Trump riding a unicorn.   :o
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Back in the 1980's, Americans..........and Republicans.........knew who our enemy was during the Cold War. It was the Soviet Union. And it still is today even though it's now called Russia. But apparently Repubs just don't care about what is going on across the world and are still fixated on spreading election conspiracies. They obviously have their priorities screwed up. If Reagan were alive and President, he'd stand up to the Russians. Not cozying up to them the way Trump just did.
If Reagan waas alive and President, he'd be 111 years old   :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on February 24, 2022, 09:02:50 pm
Trump has decided to start his own on line news. 24 hours about Trump. Kind of makes you wonder how many hours will be dedicated to actually showing proof of his election claims. It's been a few years now. There is still no court battles. No evidence give. Even the 'My pillow guy' romp through America has been proven to be nothing more than a hoax. I've heard it called a very long live infomercial about his products. And now we find out he's torn up and even destroyed government documents. Boxes of government documents have been found at this place in Florida. If he's not going to spend time proving himself for 24 hours a day then what's he going to do? Try to convince people that his document handling isn't a federal offense that, in all likelihood, will get him tossed in prison? If I was a Trump supporter I would be asking for proof. Not blindly believing because I was told to. No one who has nothing to hide would fight to keep evidence hidden. If I was a Trump supporter I would has him what he has to hide? People are going to start feeling duped and lied to. There is only so long they can keep this stuff going without showing proof.

And speaking of those who tell people what to believe. I hear Fox news network has abruptly stopped a story about Clinton. Apparently the threat of a law suit stopped them in their tracks. You would think if they were actually telling the truth they would laugh a threat of a law suit off.   

And speaking of saying really stupid things. Yes. If we happen to go to war against Russia Trump and a hand full of republicans will be traders. Even if we stay out and our allies go to war they will still be traders. That's how the law works.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Simo on February 25, 2022, 01:09:19 am

^
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Trump is a narcissist who believes he can do no wrong. "24 hours about Trump" -- won't that be exciting?   (: He had his chance, and now needs to retire to Mar-a-Lago. He won't.

"And now we find out he's torn up and even destroyed government documents". Like Nancy Pelosi did?   :D

"Yes. If we happen to go to war against Russia Trump and a hand full of republicans will be traders.". What will they be trading? Baseball cards? Stamps? Stocks and bonds?   :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 03, 2022, 10:58:46 am
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/politics/trump-criminal-conspiracy-defraud-january-6-committee/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/politics/trump-criminal-conspiracy-defraud-january-6-committee/index.html)

Waiting for the hammer to fall.

Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 03, 2022, 05:49:46 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/trump-january-6-committee-eastman-email/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/trump-january-6-committee-eastman-email/index.html)

The hammer is going to fall. Trump's legal team knew they were doing wrong. This along with definitive proof Trump was telling state reps to "Find votes" to overturn the election. There is definitive proof Trump destroyed documents. And finding government documents in boxes at Trumps place in Florida.

If Fox stopped running a story on Hillery Clinton because of legal threats. Proving they knew they were lying. How long do you think Fox will continue with their fake election claims? Counting the days.

There are more documents and emails to come. Right now they are tied up in legal moves. Kinda like a classical dance. You take a step, I take a step. These are normal procedures that have to be played out in our legal system.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 06, 2022, 06:14:39 pm
Is the republican party cutting off their nose to spite their face? After four years of praising a president who did everything but praise far right efforts. A president who shamelessly and openly surrounded himself with known racists. A president who praised and even pardoned an Arizona sheriff who set up concentration camps. A president who even went as far as calling Antifa a terrorist organization.  Seriously, Antifa? Only the really stupid or totally brainwashed could never see the fact that police always separated the white supremacist from Antifa AND everyone else protesting. But those facts are lost on trump supporters. And speaking of the republican party. Now it seems they are trying to cut ties with the very people they praised. Like watching rats leave a burning ship. Now that's there is enough evidence to toss trump into prison the republican party is trying to look clean again. By cutting ties with the very people they praised.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/republican-paul-gosar-white-nationalists-kfile/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/06/politics/republican-paul-gosar-white-nationalists-kfile/index.html)

There is no bigger joke in America right now than Trump and the republican party.

And speaking of jokes. Guess it's a right wing media WIN FOR TRUMP!!! Looks like there isn't enough evidence to prove anyone was financially or politically swayed by financial actions taken by trump in office. OH what a VICTORY!! Trump is innocent AGAIN!! NOPE. The state of NY can still charge trump for tax evasion for devaluating real estate to pay lower taxes. OPPS. Congress can still charge trump with unethical actions as a president. There's rules for a reason. Trump is not an exception from the rules.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on March 30, 2023, 07:30:31 pm
BREAKING NEWS!

Trump indicted!   :o

You can read more here:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/opinions/2023/03/28/trump-indictment-elie-honig-orig-jm.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-indictment-hush-money-stormy-daniels/h_746a9e0354ed693e52006a2170c0852c
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/19/politics/alvin-bragg-manhattan-district-attorney-trump/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/politics/donald-trump-indictment/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-indictment-hush-money-stormy-daniels/index.html

I just have three words to say: LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 31, 2023, 01:47:03 am
Happy Happy Joy Joy! Happy Happy Joy Joy!  Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy! Looking forward to his prison time. And by the way. Did you know Fox New Network is going to try to use freedom of speech as their only defense in the election fraud trial? They have no evidence. No Proof. Nothing. They are not bringing anything to this trial. Nothing but a defense of it's OK to lie to America. So how do you think they will pay the $$$ case against them?

it amazes me to no end the gullibility of the people who are still supporting Trump. The only people he has speaking for his defense are lawyers. The very same lawyers he's paying. The very people he's paying are the only witnesses speaking in his favor.

Today was a very VERY good day for America.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on March 31, 2023, 01:40:26 pm
Looks like X president and soon to be behind bars Trump is still relying on public opinion. Call his indictment a "witch hunt". After all, do you honestly think Trump is going to tell his followers what he's already said? And this is a direct quote from the X president soon to be jail bate. "I didn't do it to protect my campaign. I did it to protect my family". The x president soon to be someones cell toy fought for years to keep his tax returns hidden.  Telling his followers he didn't do anything wrong. It takes real gullibility to believe someone would not do everything he could to prove he didn't do anything wrong. Any one of Trumps supporters would get out their tax returns and hand them in to prove they didn't do anything wrong. But turn right around and still support someone who fought to keep his hidden. Why? Because Trump said so. That's some good gullibility. 30 indictments for fraud. And there is still the documents case. You remember right? The documents that were never there. Then they were there. Gullibility? But after all. All the X president soon to be wearing orange fashionably had to do is think about it. And those documents that weren't there. But then were there (gullibility?) were no longer top secret. Face to face lied to. Not a single Trump supporter would accept that from anyone around them. Yet they will believe both statements are the truth. Because they were told to. By a network that's being sued for 1.6 Billion. A network who's only defense is the right to lie. That's some real gullibility. 
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on March 31, 2023, 08:46:44 pm
The only other thing that would make Trump's head spin and drive him crazy would be if Melania were to divorce him.  :D
I would so love to see that on top of his indictment and all his other legal issues.
Granted, it would probably never happen. But one can always dream and hope.  :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kay Alett on April 08, 2023, 11:34:34 am
Well we can feel a bit happier. Trump has been "indicated". :D
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on April 08, 2023, 08:51:43 pm
Oh id do get better. be bedder by de moment. Trump demonstrates psychotic behavior. Taunting his opposition wile claiming to be innocent is psychotic by the book. Another trait of a psychotic is to play 'catch me if you can." Best demonstrated by the cases of Jack the Ripper and the Zodiac killer. Each leaving cryptic messages to play that game. There is another way to play. Withhold evidence until your in the clear. New York has proven they can make a weak case against Trump with the new evidence of his tax returns. The same evidence that was withheld form a Federal investigation. New York can only find evidence within their jurisdiction. Federal can go both country and wold wide. I looked it up. 20 years is the minimal sentence for withholding evidence in a federal trial. Is Trump worried? He can't be tried for the same thing twice. He's never been tried for withholding evidence. The same evidence he publicly bragged about withholding. Is his law team worried? Like turkeys on the day before Thanks Giving. What New York did was allow the Federal side to hold out their hand and say. "Who wants to plea bargain." Looking forward to things collapsing around Trump way before the end of the year. And before you can say "But Rat. The evidence is weak." Any evidence withheld is against federal law.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: cause the rat on April 10, 2023, 02:03:43 am
Fox news LOST the first defamation lawsuit.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/10/media/us-fox-election-lawsuit-settlement-hnk-intl/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/10/media/us-fox-election-lawsuit-settlement-hnk-intl/index.html)

You know not a single viewer of that network will ever hear about this.

The $1.600.000 lawsuit is set to start in a few days. Fox news is still relaying on the right to lie as their only defense.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Simo on April 26, 2023, 07:44:37 pm
Oh id do get better. be bedder by de moment. Trump demonstrates psychotic behavior. Taunting his opposition wile claiming to be innocent is psychotic by the book. Yada, yada, yada...

You don't know the meaning of the word, psychotic, do you? What Trump has  been displaying isn't psychotic behaviour, but rather narcissistic behaviour. There's a difference, learn it.

There's a reason why Trump gets himself into situations that are avoidable. There's a reason why he isn't POTUS now. Trump is incapable of saying those three simple words: "I was wrong". When the facts demonstrate he got it wrong, he doesn't correct. Instead, he doubles down. He did this when he bungled the whole fakedemic. He ruined the economic recovery of a lifetime by refusing to admit he'd been mislead by all the wrong people. He should have called the scamdemic off by July, 2020, at the very latest, cancelled "Warp Speed", told us to peel the magic circles off floors, reopen for business, get back to work or school, to get back to life as normal. If he had, he would have won a second term by a landslide. He didn't and he didn't. After seeing 40% of New York restaurants closing forever, taking the livelihoods of owners and employees with them, how do you suppose they voted? I don't know anyone who voted for Biden; I know lots who voted against Trump.

He did it to himself.
Title: Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
Post by: Kobuk on October 24, 2023, 03:32:18 pm
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-vote-10-24-23/index.html
This House Speaker business in Washington right now is a total circus.  >:(
McCarthy is out.
Scalise is out.
Now it looks like Tom Emmer may be out.

Who the damn hell do Repubs (Especially the right wingers) want as House Speaker? Seems like whatever name gets pitched, the far right won't vote for them.
Which leads me to wonder: Do they have a plan to get Trump in for House Speaker instead? Is that who they actually want?
Or worse yet, Is it part of their plan to block anybody and everybody from getting voted to be House Speaker and therefor paralyze/shut down the government until their extremist demands are met? Maybe that's what they really want after all.
I am so sick of this crap.  >:(