Post by: grumble on January 26, 2005, 08:49:37 pm
Since My plant's tend to die, a pet is out of the question.
Post by: Pillowmint on January 26, 2005, 09:36:41 pm
Post by: JakeandTayu on November 26, 2004, 05:34:58 pm
Post by: Sporty Fox on November 26, 2004, 08:16:27 pm
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Post by: Savaaha on November 28, 2004, 11:10:50 pm
Post by: Varg the wanderer on November 28, 2004, 11:55:17 pm
Post by: BlackTail on November 29, 2004, 05:06:06 am
Post by: cloud on November 29, 2004, 09:48:24 am
Or a lizard/fox
Post by: Ritsuki on November 29, 2004, 11:23:46 am
How many topics do you need to make a day?..seriously, I'm going to boarder this on flooding,
Post by: JakeandTayu on November 29, 2004, 06:10:12 pm
Post by: Lackadais on November 29, 2004, 11:04:12 pm
Post by: on November 30, 2004, 07:07:10 am
mind you we would live in the wilderness of west Canada ore Alaska
we need lots of space
where I'm now there just is-sent enough space for an pet like that
so I'll keep my plusses for now
Post by: Happenstance on January 04, 2005, 05:06:31 pm
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Where did you get your wolf-dogs, if you don't mind my asking? I think it would be helpful for me to know for the future...
Post by: Burr on January 04, 2005, 05:34:57 pm
Post by: Spike on January 04, 2005, 06:10:36 pm
Post by: Dixie Landoe on January 04, 2005, 07:33:35 pm
I remember once when I was at a zoo (twas when I was much younger, and I can't remember the place's name), and I saw this absolutely beautiful timberwolf in a dog run. I was amazed by his beauty, but I saw something in his eyes. he was scared. he was pacing his cage all day, and I could sense that he was in horrid mental pain. I went up as close as I was allowed to the cage and begun to raise my hand as if to try and reach him. just then, I did something I rarely did and still rarely do now, I fell to my knees and started to cry. his pain was mine for that moment, and as he saw me, he stopped and looked at me in particular. after a few moments of inconsolable bawling, I swore, out loud to the wolf in the cage, that I'd set him and his brethren free. this is the main reason I want to be a wildlife scientist and supporter. (true story, I'm not being a drama hog)
anyway, then there's the subject of keeping wild animals that have been injured or orphaned until health was restored. I very much agree with this idea. as long as the animal in question is kept within its natural area, and only stays until its wounds have 100% healed, I have absolutely no problem with this. one of the greatest gifts God gave life was the ability to feel pity and remorse towards other life, and I feel that it would be treason not to help another fellow animal in need.
finally, there's keeping wild animals as pets out in the middle of nowhere. as long as you live in the natural area of that animal, and it's given unlimited space to roam around, then I feel that, even though it would still be taking the freedom away from a living being, it would be acceptable. only on one condition though: at any time should that animal feel the need to return to its wild brothers and sisters, that it should be allowed to at any time.
I DO want a wild animal as a pet. however, to do so would be to deny our fellows their basic rights. there's nothing that I would like to do more than be one with my wild cousins. but, the only way that you can truly be one with an animal, IMO, is to live alongside it, in the wild, in its natural habitat, in an area where both of you can be happy and free.
oh dear lord I blabber on... this thread was prolly never meant for anything like this... sorry 'bout that.
Post by: on January 04, 2005, 09:05:53 pm
anyway i have a parrot
Post by: Ulario on January 04, 2005, 09:25:52 pm
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Post by: Karazynn on January 06, 2005, 06:18:02 pm
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Post by: Mazz on January 06, 2005, 09:28:25 pm
i had a fox as a friend once. it lived in the woods near my house when i was younger and use to come sit in my lap.
Post by: Sporty Fox on January 06, 2005, 09:38:46 pm
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Where did you get your wolf-dogs, if you don't mind my asking? I think it would be helpful for me to know for the future... |
I found mine locally after a long search, and spent a year looking for them when I was finally ready to aquire one. I had turned a few down over the years as I did not have the proper place to have animals such as that at the time. The first breeder I contacted was the woman my brother got his from 7 years earlier. She no longer raises them, but was involved with other breeders in the state in fighting improper regulations on ownership, so she knew quite a few other breeders and was willing to look for me.
While she was looking around for me, I went and looked at a few cubs from another breeder and walked away from what I saw, they were not from well-bred stock but a 'puppy-mill' operation. Any animal with wild stock in it needs to be from breeders who know how to handle and raise thier animals, these people didn't. When I asked to meet the parents and get to know thier dispositions the answer was no, and bad parent genetics make for bad cubs. They also offered me the pup for a price WAY lower than quality cubs go for, so that also turned me away.
Anyway, after a year I got a call from the ex-breeder I had spoken with to start my search- she knew of a litter, did I want to look at them? I called the breeders, talked with them for two nights on the phone getting to know them and learn about thier animals. The also interviewed me extensively before allowing me to come out and meet the cubs. I was only looking for a male at the time, they had said they had two three week old females, but I went to look anyway.
I went out the following weekend (after talking on the phone with them almost nightly!
to see the cubs and got a surprise- one was a male after all. I fell in love with him and put down a deposit that night but had to wait another week before they would let him go. While I was there (and all the next week, as I went out there 4 times during the week to let him get used to me) they showed me pictures of all the cubs they had sold over the years. They keep in touch with everyone they sell to over the years and keep updated on all the animals.The next weekend he had turned five weeks old and was ready to go home- young enough to allow him to bond to me instead of his parents. While I was playing with him during the week they had brought out a 11 week old female that they hadn't placed and had taken off the market due to her age. Wolf-hybrids bond by the time thier 8 weeks and she would be a difficult one to raise with people, but she was so cute
After an hour or so of discussion they said they would sell me both of them for a discount, they were satisfied that I would be able to handle her while I was bonding with him, and having him around would make getting her used to me easier.They called me almost nightly for the first two weeks to make sure that I wasn't having any problems and to answer any questions I might have had. We still talk at least every other month and I visit them a couple of times a year also. When they had a 13 week old male a year later that hadn't sold they called me and offered him, I told them that unfortunately I couldn't to buy another one at the time. They said no, we want to give him to you- And then there were three!
I know this was long and didn't fully answer your question. The reason I'm giving you this story is so you'll know what to look for in a breeder if and when you look for one. Breeders like the couple I got mine from aren't that unusual, in fact most of the good ones are just like them. You have to be willing to take your time, and check them out carefully while they're checking you out. If the breeder doesn't interview you to be sure you're capable of caring for the animal then I would walk away. If they don't offer support while you bonding with the cub, again, walk away.
As for finding someone around you that breeds, the internet is a good place, as are rural vets and feed stores. Good luck!
Post by: Adamina on January 06, 2005, 09:42:25 pm
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obviously
I would have a fox, though I wouldn't really have it as a pet either, I'd let it roam free if it wanted
Post by: on January 26, 2005, 09:59:11 pm
but he would be more a a captive friend then a "pet"
Post by: Kyuzo on January 27, 2005, 02:21:28 am
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