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announcements => administerial roars and woofs => Topic started by: WhiteShepherd on June 14, 2009, 02:15:45 pm
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Update Jul 2 2009: Well as many of you have already guessed the upgrade is taking longer than planned. In fact I've been working straight for the last 48 hours. We've run into two issues that has slowed us down. First is a multi source router (redundant 3 net feeds into our network). It tested working but has been losing routing information over time. After two days we believe we got it fixed. Second is the porting of applications to a multi-user system. It's coming along but slower and a tremendous amount of work. I want to tell everyone please pardon our construction dust and we WILL get there with a better Furtopia when the work is all done! I also want to say to all web users that we have current backups of ALL data on multiple servers so your work is safe as we upgrade.
Well it's been days since I've slept so I'm going to rest now. But come morning I will return to working to get this done ASAP. I also want to say a HUGE thank you to Quamer who has already put 50+ hours into this project working with me. He's been a life saver!
*hugs to all Furtopians* Full steam ahead! WhiteShepherd
News: The Furtopia FTP has now been taken off-line. Jun 28th 2009 and will remain off-line for 3 days to give us time to move all accounts to the new Ohio server. When we have finished moving all accounts we will reopen FTP.
Hello it's WhiteShepherd here and I wanted to give you all a heads up on some of the new things that are coming. :) Here is a heads up on some of our plans and progress. From me as well as the extensive crew of mods/staff/OPs/watchers/helpers it has been a pleasure hosting and helping furries for over the last 10 years. It is a project that started as a hobby and turned into a full self run furry community service with a voting board. Over the years as time has progressed we have seen many changes on the internet. Some of them good and others bad. Do to the sport of vandalism we have decided to switch to a modern Linux server which will afford tighter controls on user accounts and security. So between June 25th and June 30th we will permanently shut down our Primary Houston Texas server for good and transfer to a group of 3 Ohio based servers to take it's place. During this massive transfer FTP will be taken offline as websites are transferred to the new servers. FTP and hosting will then begin on the new Ohio servers as we restore Furtopia services one by one until fully restored.
There are some new additions to the Furtopia services that many of you will enjoy. The Indexer (the Furtopia gallery that automatically displays your images if no web page is found in a directory) will have some display enhancements to improve the viewing experience. If you don't have time for a webpage the Furtopia Indexer is a very easy to use gallery. There will be a new "User Control Panel"! This will allow web members to add/remove their own mysql databases and domain names, change website name, and recover passwords automatically instantly without having to wait for an admin to service these requests! Webpages applications will now be "automatically" processed by the system in 48 hours. They will be displayed during the review time to admins for review/cancel. This will solve the problem of Admin backlog that can delay applications. We will also be implementing a new bandwidth management system in our new Linux servers. Larger files greater then 512k will give bandwidth priority to smaller files. This while supporting downloads of larger video/image formats will help prevent them from slowing down tipical artist sites.
Any thoughts or suggestions feel free to ask.
WhiteShepherd
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change website name,
By that you mean the URL is gonna change?
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change website name,
By that you mean the URL is gonna change?
I might be mistaken here, but I think what he was saying is that users with hosted websites will be able to change their own website name easily. So for example if you have a hosted site named oldfurname.furtopia.org you could change it to newfurname.furtopia.org
The main site will still remain at the same URL.
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Ok thanks :-[
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It's a long ways off but will get here soon. Guess I should get busy packing and taking inventory of my Pringles and Kit Kats and other goodies.
*passes by his old stand*
Hmmm...
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You are exactly right Vararam. Also my mistake. Updates start on June 25th not July.
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You mean to tell me that I will be deprived of my IRC for 5 days?! My world is ending.. =x.x=
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No the IRC will remain running. There may be a downtime of up to 1 hour as the DNS (domain name) switches servers but that will be it.
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PHEW! I almost fainted... Without the IRC I might end up doing something productive with my time..
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Aww, I wanted to see Saloonka miss his precious IRC... :p
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You so would of had withdrawal McMajik
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News: The Furtopia FTP has now been taken off-line. Jun 28th 2009 and will remain off-line for 3 days to give us time to move all accounts to the new Ohio server. When we have finished moving all accounts we will reopen FTP.
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News: The Furtopia FTP has now been taken off-line. Jun 28th 2009 and will remain off-line for 3 days to give us time to move all accounts to the new Ohio server. When we have finished moving all accounts we will reopen FTP.
I was freaking out because it would tell me I had an incorrect password. I see though, no uploading for 3 days.
I'll survive....
*drops dead*
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I had the same thing o.o But I know what's going on now ^_^
*Attempts to revive Mazz* o.o;;
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*Pokes Mazz* You ok there?
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Update Jul 2 2009: Well as many of you have already guessed the upgrade is taking longer than planned. In fact I've been working straight for the last 48 hours. We've run into two issues that has slowed us down. First is a multi source router (redundant 3 net feeds into our network). It tested working but has been losing routing information over time. After two days we believe we got it fixed. Second is the porting of applications to a multi-user system. It's coming along but slower and a tremendous amount of work. I want to tell everyone please pardon our construction dust and we WILL get there with a better Furtopia when the work is all done! I also want to say to all web users that we have current backups of ALL data on multiple servers so your work is safe as we upgrade.
Well it's been days since I've slept so I'm going to rest now. But come morning I will return to working to get this done ASAP. I also want to say a HUGE thank you to Quamer who has already put 50+ hours into this project working with me. He's been a life saver!
*hugs to all Furtopians* Full steam ahead! WhiteShepherd
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*hugs WS really tight*
Man, we say it every time, and we mean it every time: thank you so much for all the work you do to make Furtopia a better place.
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*Pokes Mazz* You ok there?
Eh, I die all the time. I'll be alright.
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Are these upgrades also affecting PHP scripts on the sites, perchance?
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Update Jul 2 2009: Well as many of you have already guessed the upgrade is taking longer than planned. In fact I've been working straight for the last 48 hours. We've run into two issues that has slowed us down. First is a multi source router (redundant 3 net feeds into our network). It tested working but has been losing routing information over time. After two days we believe we got it fixed. Second is the porting of applications to a multi-user system. It's coming along but slower and a tremendous amount of work. I want to tell everyone please pardon our construction dust and we WILL get there with a better Furtopia when the work is all done! I also want to say to all web users that we have current backups of ALL data on multiple servers so your work is safe as we upgrade.
Well it's been days since I've slept so I'm going to rest now. But come morning I will return to working to get this done ASAP. I also want to say a HUGE thank you to Quamer who has already put 50+ hours into this project working with me. He's been a life saver!
*hugs to all Furtopians* Full steam ahead! WhiteShepherd
You are welcome my friend =) ...
*hugs back*
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WS, for the outstanding work you've put into this site and helping furs everywhere have a place to call home I'm happy to give you...
Two 5th Avenue Bars (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/931/5thavenuett8.jpg)
Thank you again.
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The front page said that things should be finished up by the 5th so I'm just checking to see if there are any updates; if this is going to be prolonged I need to re-link images in my LJ and other sites to not have broken images everywhere until I can go through mutantskunk.com again.
It messes with my OCD. D:
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I too am wondering what present progress is. Using FileZilla, I still get "incorrect password" when I enter ftp.furtopia.org, username and password into the appropriate fields and try to connect. If this comes across as complaining about slow progress, I apologize, I don't want to do that, I only would very much like to know what present progress is.
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It has taken far longer than planned. The best I can offer at this point is I hope we'll be finished in the next few days. I'll do my best to get FTP up by this evening. I do apologize for the inconvenience and dust.
WhiteShepherd
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No apology necessary, I do understand that you and the other admins are doing the best you can! Thanx for the update!
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Due to the fact that updating the new server is taking so much more time and work than planned and in consideration to the users of Furtopia who need to use their web sites I went ahead and paid out of pocket to have the old server kept in service for another month at $200 extra over our new server costs. I don't normally ask but if you have been planning to make a donation NOW would be a very good time. I am very stressed in finances. My paypal e-mail is fuzzydog<at>whiteshepherd.net
Long story short what happened was two major problems. First we have to convert every Furtopia user into it's own Linux user and this has been very time consuming. Second there has been problems with one of the routers to the point for the last two weeks I have been working 6+ hours a day on it and Furtopia. I even took a week off of work to do this. Crazy thing is I feel like I'm within 1-2 days of finishing the new server. However it has been so long that it has run into something else important I CAN'T put off, my Vision Quest. My adoptive mother is Native American Lokota and it's been planed that this weekend I will fast up on the hill on my Vision Quest. I had planned to have Furtopia finished a week ago but best laid plans of mice and dogs... So tonight I need to stop for a bit. I've secured the old server and FTP is back on-line. When the new server finishes we'll transfer then.
Caring and hugs to everyone who makes this place the wonderful home it has become! WhiteShepherd
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*hugs WS really tight*
Man, we say it every time, and we mean it every time: thank you so much for all the work you do to make Furtopia a better place.
Mm yeah I forgot to mention that.
I personally say thanks, as this is a place where i can be myself.
I can find quite a decent amount of art, topic , music ETC
And i think you have really done a good job.
Goodluck finishing the upgrade.
You deserve a big pat on the back
8)
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*hugs WhiteShepherd very tight and licks his nose* Really thank you for all your efforts and hours to make this project possible.
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Quamer THANK YOU! *hugs* If it wasn't for your time helping me on the server we wouldn't be near this close to being finished.
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I was just curious, thanks for getting things up and running though. <3
I appreciate the hard work you and your staff are putting into this upgrade as well as the forums themselves.
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Thank you for your hard work! I hope the new server will be up and running soon.
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Ok we've made a lot of tweaks and changes. I plan to take the FTP off-line tonight to transfer files to the new server. I expect things to go smoother. ;) Downtime for FTP is estimated at 48 hrs but less is hoped for as we now have working all three connections adding up to 30Mbs.
WhiteShepherd
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We are transferring files now. Here is a sneak peak of one of the new beta options. In the past the indexer used to open a picture in a new window. That option is still available but the default now opens in a slideshow window. http://whiteshepherd.furtopia.org/pictures/Carter_Caves_2007/
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It seems to work OK for me in both Opera 9.64 and Firefox 3.5.1
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cool. I do have a question though. If we decide to change it back to the old set up how would that be done?
I use my site to host images when I show them off and the set-up like this won't allow that I don't believe.
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Good luck with getting everything up and running again, and thank you for the hosting and all the hard work going into this.
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Mazz: I will keep the old indexer so others can switch back to it with a .htaccess file. However the new indexer is compatible with direct linking. There are two ways to do this. First you can right click on a picture and under "properties" it will show the address for remote linking. Second to note in the indexer demo the added link: "original file" which is a direct link itself.
As far as features to be added. It has also been decided that users from their control panel will have the option to enable a Furtopia web e-mail address (user@furtopia.net). Also if a user hosts their own domain name at Furtopia they can opt to host their web mail to their hosted domain.
There will be a change in the way bandwidth to web pages is handed out. This has been a long decision coming in an attempt to curb abuse and save bandwidth for legitimate users. The reason Furtopia hosts web pages is to offer a "free" and stable web site to artists who cannot often afford good hosting. Unlike a gallery only service Furtopia lets an artist completely control the look of THEIR web site to the public as they can share their artwork with the world. Most artwork is jpg/gif/txt/doc/php/html and similar small files. As in the past all files on a artists website WILL remain downloadable from the Furtopia web server. But these mentioned files types will now take priority in bandwidth over other files (especially very large ones). The server will also check on the fly that these files are real to their extension (jpg/doc/etc) so a user renaming say a zip file to .txt or .jpg will still take second class priority and a slower download. This action is a move to cut abuse and save more resources for the legitimate artists and use of the service. :)
It's a LOT of stuff and improvements and a lot of hours to work. But it's all coming together bit by bit. :)
WhiteShepherd
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Oh ok cool, then no worries about me having to change it. I didn't know you could do that.
Wow, a lot of cool new features. Amazing stuff!
Thank you so much WS!!!!
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The new galleries are looking really cool so far!
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Ok the transfer has started. It's 4AM and this dog is going to crash for some rest. I'll resume in the morning. Over the comming week I will be bringing services online. Here is my priority so far:
Get e-mail online, Restore DNS, add TLDs, check and fix permission issues, restore mysql backups, restore IRC bots, restore (recompile) missing indexer function links, add user control panel, add web mail.
Aside from these issues if you notice something wrong send me a PM so I can look into it. Here we go!
WhiteShepherd
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Ok all member Top Level Domains (*.com, *.net,*,org, etc) have been restored as well as furtopia domains ( user.furtopia.org ). Thousands of accounts were converted so if you have a website check your web address and FTP to make sure it is working properly. If not PM me ASAP so I can fix the issue quickly.
More work to do but so far the new server is proving MUCH faster and responsive then the old one! :)
WhiteShepherd
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I sent a PM but figured I'd update this thread. My ftp works but MutantSkunk.com is still not running but mutantskunk.furtopia.org is working.
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Is dragoncity.net supposed to be redirecting to furtopia.org now? :o
My sites are alive, cannot access FTP however.
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Sweet my stuff is running clear now and ftp works.
<3 Thanks for all the work WS, I hope you can get all residual bugs ironed out.
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I lied, my site won't fully load and I get an error.
Runtime error 2 at $0000000000404399 $0000000000404399 $00000000004049D1 $0000000000405F96 $00000000004077F3 $0000000000400178
At the top of my page.
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I lied, my site won't fully load and I get an error.
Runtime error 2 at $0000000000404399 $0000000000404399 $00000000004049D1 $0000000000405F96 $00000000004077F3 $0000000000400178
At the top of my page.
Hmm...just tried my FTP, it's not working.
My site is down to.
Guess it'll be down awhile I'm using PHP and MySql lol. (:
Response: 530 Login authentication failed
Error: Unable to connect! x_x
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I can acess my FTP no problem, it's nice an fast. My site itself seems to be working fine (from fallenangel.furtopia.org). Any offsite linked images (like art I post in my LiveJournal) are broken, however.
Are the indexer/directory pages back up yet, or is that in the next batch of things to be done?
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Managed to get into FTP! :)
EDIT: And now I cannot see my webpage, 403 error.
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yea mine is gone too kira, my whole site is gone too.
I'm sure he'll work out all the kinks associated with new servers.
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Wow.. I've been making adjustments and recoding the indexer since yesterday as I got reports of errors to make it compatible going from a single user system to a multi-user system (Linux). Everything from thumbnail creation to getting the correct paths. During this two day process of debugging I changed permissions on the top web folder. I did not realize it blocked access to sites bellow it for three hours. *doe!!*
Ok did a LOT of debugging on the indexer and code addition to the indexer. It should work for everyone now. The indexer should load fast. However one thing do to if a web site has a corrupted image the indexer can hang on the image for 15 seconds trying to fix it before moving on to other images. So if the indexer hangs on a image it can't create a thumbnail for you should try and replace/re upload it with a good image.
Keep the reports coming! I need to know if something is not working. Next on my list to get working is the new MYSQL.
I also again want to give a big thanks to Quamer who has been helping me lots with the setup of servers. If it wasn't for his help this project would of never come off the ground!
WhiteShepherd
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lol, a lot of work you must do big white one. Make sure you sleep.
My site runs great now. I'll report any bugs I find. Thank you.
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ObliviousAlly I looked into your linking issue and found the problem. The new server is "case sensitive" to the web path of the file you are trying to link (this is a web standard). The old server did not check to see if the case of a path matched exactly.
As an example a working link to your forums avatar is: http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/lj/icons/icon_ally21.png
However what is stored in your profile: http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/LJ/ICONS/icon_ally21.png
Notice the capital letters /LJ/ICONS/ this is what is throwing off the remote linking. It's noting you did wrong as the old server didn't care. Just the new server is more strict on this.
I'm saying this here as following exact case applies to everyone's website now.
WhiteShepherd
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It's obvious that passwords being case sensitive makes them more secure, but what's the purpose of the web standard of web paths being case sensitive?
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In linux, directories, names, e.t.c. are case sensitive.
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After reading this, I see why case sensitive would be the web standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Market_share_and_uptake
Though I do still wonder why Linux does it like that to start with.
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Since the upgrade my cutenews isn't working. This is what I get:
Fatal error: date() [<a href='function.date'>function.date</a>]: Timezone database is corrupt - this should *never* happen! in /webpages/artwork/ryoko/cutenews/inc/editnews.mdu on line 82
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The indexer pages not being in alphabetical order confused me. I was about to be like. "bawwww my stuff is missing"
All is well in the world of Mazz now.
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Ii can view my directories now, but they're all text. :/
Also, what's with the case sensitivity on the directories? I don't want to have to go through everything and change all my links to caps. :/
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Got mysql loaded and have started restoring users DBs. Made some fixes to PHP. I'll look into how the Indexer is getting it's file order.
ObliviousAlly the case it's not a choice but part of the OS. So even I need to learn to check my case on files. Under Windows (our old server) it can't see a difference between a uppercase and lowercase letter. A=A and a=A as both letters are the same to it. So Any.gif is the same as amy.gif or any combination of the same ordered letters.
However Linux can see upper and lower case letters in it's files. For example: A=Uppercase "A" and a=lowercase "a". So on a Linux server you could have the filenames Amy.gif, amy.gif, and AMY.GIF in the same folder as each is a different combination of letters which is why case must be exact. Windows treats upper/lower case the same so it don't care if your case is correct.
I took a look at your site Ally and I noticed some pages called the folder "images" (the folder that exists) and some folders called "IMAGES". I created a temp fix by making a additional folder called "IMAGES" (it did not replace the lowercase "images" folder) and copied the files from your "images" into the new "IMAGES".
Your web site now seems to be working as calls to both folders works. I'm hoping that helps as now that your site is working again you can correct paths whenever you wish.
Let me know if there are any more problems with your site or if there are any questions. I am always glad to help!
WhiteShepherd
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WS, I think you could probably set up a symbolic link to the IMAGES folder from images.
I'm not sure the specifics of setting one up on your distribution, but it can be done. Have a look into it.
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I actually first set up a symbolic link. But then after thinking it over I decided to keep it simple. There was a chance someone could see a symbolic link thinking it a folder and delete the original folder thinking the other still held their files.
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Ah, that's not specifically what I was referring to. But thank you for changing over that one folder, I must have missed it while fixing my directories from lowercase to caps last night. I need to revamp my site anyhow, so this is a good reason to do so, have all my things in order and labeled properly.
What I'm referring to is this:
http://fallenangel.furtopia.org/JUNK/furtopia.png
I don't get the nice Indexer in any of my directories. I'm not sure if it's something lingering on my site or if I've just forgotten to implement something. I'd really like to have my shiny thumbnails back, though. ;_;
If it's something you haven't gotten to yet, then disregard my babbling. D:
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I can't log in to my ftp. :(
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Got mysql loaded and have started restoring users DBs. Made some fixes to PHP. I'll look into how the Indexer is getting it's file order.
Let me know if there are any more problems with your site or if there are any questions. I am always glad to help!
WhiteShepherd
Sweet. :D Your awesome!
Hmm...PhotoFrame is out.
Error: Sorry, but I couldn't find the GD 2.* functions that I need to convert images. Check the configuration of this script (imagemethod variable) or your system. Make sure that your copy of PHP has been compiled with GD support and native JPEG support eg
configure --with-gd --with-jpeg ...
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Ally I checked and saw we turned off the indexer on a request. No problem turned it back on. You can also customize the indexer so it becomes a part of your website with a header and footer file. http://www.furtopia.org/indexer/
NeoFur I did plan support for GD. I'll check the setting for that after work today. DBs should be finished loading today as well.
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Is FTP shut off for everyone or am I just having problems?
also, idk how updating databases work and all that, but i'd like to note that when i went to look at my website today i noticed that recent additions to it are missing. same thing happend to a friend of mine the other day on artistsworld.
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Think they're working on the server ryokox, and your not the only one, my mysql's missing in action. We just gotta keep checking the forums for updates.
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Nods.. I'm sorry for the errors but I'm fixing them as soon as you report them to me. If you are wondering WHY we had to go through all this trouble? Aside from needing the extra speed was security. Over ten years ago I was hosting artists for for enjoyment and to help artists who did not have a lot of money have a nice web space free of advertisements. Word spread and Furtopia has grown into a nice and supportive artist community. However over the last 3-4 years the dynamic of the internet has been changing. More and more vandalism and system theft have become a popular sport for those who get their kicks at the suffering of others. The old server was nice but we needed to rework some policies from the ground up to try and protect his home better. Thus for example the choice to switch to Linux. When all updates are done we will have a faster and more secure server.
Current progress. I checked into the PHP and recompiled the gd libs as well as added several new ones. GD in PHP should now work. I will be spending the rest of the night loading MYSQL DBs. If your site's mysql does not load by noon this Saturday let me know.
ToranekoStudios I sent you a PM 2 days ago with some new login info. Check the spelling carefully of your new login as it may differ slightly from your old login.
Ryokox PM me your FTP details so I can check them out.
Any other artist if your site is having problems due to the switch and you need help just shoot me a PM and I'll be glad to lend a paw to get it working again.
WhiteShepherd
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Is there any trick to getting our directories to sort by filename like they used to?
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Ah, thanks White! I was waiting for a reply in the email but might have missed it. v_v
THANK YOU!
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Ally I think that it is a difference between Linux and Windows. I'll look into this after I get all the sites up. If there is not an easy way I'll program the indexer to reorder back into alphabetical.
I'm stopping for the night/morning as it's 5AM. I'm about half way through loading all the mysql databases. It's a long process to do by hand. Back when we started I created and removed everything by hand. It doesn't work with a site this size so as I reload all the DBs I am creating a mysql install database. This will let me automate restoring everyones DB at once.
Another point to note. The address for using a mysql database has changed from "localhost" to "127.0.0.1".
So if your old config was:
address: localhost
db user: name
db name: name
db password: pass
Your new config should look like:
address: 127.0.0.1
db user: name
db name: name
db password: pass
As I restore DBs I am manually making this correction to users config files so back up the changes and careful on overwriting them! ;)
I've increased PHP max memory size from 16 megs to 32 megs. Large programs like wordpress need the extra memory.
WhiteShepherd
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Wordpress and Fotoframe working for me. :D
Still can't login FTP.
404 Not Found on some directories.
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Neofur I checked your FTP and it is working. I have PMed you some things to try.
As far as FTP make sure it is set for "passive mode" (this often helps).
To all users who use PHP and mysql.
Changes on the new server:
When connecting to the mysql database use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost.
If your PHP script uses the commands include or require "directory/file.php" is not proper syntax. Use "./directory/file.php" to define starting the search in the current directory.
If a file or directory is missing make sure that the case (uppercase AND lowercase) of the calling web path match EXACTLY. All web paths to a file are case sensitive.
Finally if your web site has a problem and you are unable to fix it let me know and I'll be glad to help you out.
WhiteShepherd
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Everything is up and running now. :D
THX WhiteShepherd ;)
Case sensitive was the problem.
Oh, folks should change/redo their bookmarks.
None of my worked, due to the case sensitive.
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Glad everything is working! After things calm down I'm going to test using gzip compression on uncompressed files and let the users vote on if it helps speed things up.
As far as e-mail I will be changing all Furtopia pages. I will no longer be offering support over e-mail but instead through the forums only. The reason for this is yesterday I got 32000+ spam e-mails!!!! This is even with DBLs filtering. The problem is that I've had this e-mail since the early 90s. Every spammer and his dog must have it in this lists. It takes MANY times longer to try and read through all the subject lines to find a valid support e-mail than it does to even fix the problems and it's easy to miss valid e-mails in all the junk. Where as on the forums I can just look and if someone needs help I can PM them and take care of it. So I'll eventually be changing all Furtopia e-mail links to forum links.
WhiteShepherd
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I have several issues. I know I uploaded several pictures to my art site here on furtopia and I don't see them in my gallery anymore. I also can't log in to re-add them. I can view my site just fine and everything, but some pictures aren't there that I know I added. Site url btw is http://www.foxwolfart.furtopia.org/
-Foxwolf 9-Tails
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foxwolf: I sent you a PM with some info to check.
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Hello. I'll admit I have no idea how things work, so consider me a very huge idiot about this sort of thing XD
I have been having a lot of problems trying to fix stuff around my site; I use filezilla FTP. I can enter my main directory, I can delete files and download them, yet I cannot upload anything. Seeing that the web uploader also doesn't work for me, I have no way of uploading my stuff into the server. Oh, and I can see everything there is, I just really can't upload anything.
Also, I'm sorry I didn't have time to read the whole post, but is there any way to organize my files by name? Because I have a webcomic and the pages are all jumbled so it's hard for the readers to find the next page.
If not, is there any specially way the files show up in the directories, or it's really only random?
Oh, by the way, the site url is http://vilani.furtopia.org
Thank you very much for your help.
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I'm thinking that these upgrades taking longer to do than expected may have resulted in hosting applications being delayed? (The main page had july 5th as the end date for some sort of service/upgrade, and then it disappeared, so I assumed I was good when I submitted my application, but then I never got a responce for... months (I even sent emails to the admin2 email address, but I never got any response. Then I started poking around here)
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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They get pretty busy. I suggest sending kada-Ru a PM.
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^^ NP - Whiteshepherd already answered my questions...
anyways, the automated processing of the applications is due to start any moment now, if it has not already started...
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Vilani I checked into your issue. When we migrated servers all web accounts were hard set to 150MB web space which is why it wasn't allowing uploads. I checked over your site and approved it for 3GB. Let me know if you still have problems.
As for the sorting I'm looking into that now. I'll try and have something in the next few days. If now I'll recode the indexer to do the sorting for us.
WhiteShepherd
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I've been working day and night programing new software. Right now I'm programming applications and they should be back on-line any day.
For a few users you may have problems uploading to your web site. Due to some members trying to use their web sites to store large volumes of commercial mp3s/etc we have enabled the upload limits of 150MB per site. However: If ANY artist needs more than 150MB and the extra space will be used for YOUR art/writing/music send me a PM and I will promptly increase your limit to as much as you need.
WhiteShepherd
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I currently have 5 emails waiting for processing towards web hosting.
These are from:
Taoi
Ky Spectrum
FireStarterWolf
Avan
TC Fox
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thanks! :3 ^^
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Heya ^_^ Yeah i have a few problems i'm missing alot of files and i can't seem to be able to connect to any of the FTP software aswell i click upload and i get permission denied. And i can't connect with regular FTP either ^_^ O.o so yeah i'm using IE7 and the application in the gallery doesn't work right with IE7 either i can't click on the pics to get the full size. ... works with Firefox O.o I dunno about IE8. And it doesn't order alphabetically anymore. But i'd like it to order from recent to older instead. But thats just a suggestion. ^_^
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Ok finished writing the Furtopia account software. We have processed all pending applications. If you sent in an application and it did not get an acceptance e-mail send me a PM.
Matoc: Due to changes in the way things work the web ftp will be replaced with the new "User Control Panel" we've been working on. In the mean time you can use an FTP program. I've tested your ftp and it works. I was able to upload/download. We have a program called "FileZilla" that is fast and very easy to use. Set it for passive mode and give it a try. You can find it here: http://www.furtopia.org/tools/filezilla_2_1_5_setup.exe
As far as image files from what I could tell it seemed many errors were from the called case of a file. For example a thumbnail would call: A link would call for Myfile.jpg when the real file was named myfile.jpg . I found a few files in a backup and restored them just in case. But it was not many.
Another suggestion for you and others is for ease of use you can customize the Furtopia gallery (indexer). Here is the difference. A gallery makes it easy to upload artwork but your stuck with the galleries format. A web page lets you show your full creativity and custom everything. But it can take time to add your artwork. Furtopia can give you both. The Furtopia gallery auto thumbnails any directory that does not have a "index.*" web page. The Furtopia gallery will also REPLACE the default Furtopia header/footer with one you chose if you place a "header.html" and/or a "footer.html" in a "css" folder where you have your art. This lets you replace the Furtopia gallery theme with your own! Example (uses a "css/header.html" but no footer): http://www.kcff.net/paint-shop-pro/teachme2tag/1_early-beginners/
Matoc: If you still have problems restoring your site let me know and I will work at fixing it myself.
More custom options can be found here: http://www.furtopia.org/indexer/
It seems the gallery works with Firefox, IE 6 & 8. I do not have 7. Can someone else confirm 7 does not work with the gallery? If you want to remote link to your original images use the link named: "original file" that is under every thumbnail.
WhiteShepherd
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Well i downloaded your program and it seems it still doesn't let me connect to FTP ...the message i get disconnect from server and unable to connect. I verified my firewall and all and its all set to let the program through O.o the port i'm using is default 21 which should work. And i have set it to passive mode aswell O.o i use "matoc.furtopia.org" in the address feild and my login and pass i entered correctly for sure. ^_^ So yeah ...not all my files are back either alot of em are though. ^_^ I wonder if i might have reached my space limit and thats how you keep someone from uploading more.
Well anyway the history of recent trouble with FTP i've had in uploading here was strange lately .... like 2 months ago i could connect anymore to the non web ftp cauz it said my password was not right when it couldn't have been changed ...then later it worked again ... but i had started enjoying the webftp so i still kept using the webftp ...now the webftp started denying me permission to access then i went back to regular ftp and it didn't work anymore and that was timed with your upgrades.
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Huh... that was odd... I logged on last night, now it keeps saying it won't connect... ? (I'm using filezilla)
*20 seconds and 3 tries later*
:goldthpt:
I just tried again and it worked!?
Am I doing something wrong that's causing the inconsistent connections?
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Any news on how this thing organizes galleries?
I use to organize by naming files certain things so I need to figure out how to get things to be together when they're related. D:
I have no web design smarts so no way I'd be able to do it myself.
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Organizing on the user end or the web developer end?
I'm taking you mean on the development end. All you need to do is have a directory something like:
<root directory not shown>/images/gallery1
<root directory not shown>/images/gallery2
<root directory not shown>/images/gallery3
<root directory not shown>/images/gallery4
and then just link them like normal...
I hope that answers your question.
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I've hoping that this problem I have might be related to the server upgrade and that it would pass, but it seems it won't go away. I've been trying to use the "Artist Upload" option to upload my latest work and update my page, but for some reason I keep getting this:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /login on this server.
Anybody know how I can fix this? I know my website and account are still active and working last time I checked. Thanks for any help!
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MatoC: I was able to log into your account. I sent you a PM with some details to check.
Avan: Is your ftp client set to "passive mode" (solves problem with some users router/firewall settings)? If your connection is still intermittent do you have the same connection problem connecting direct to the IPs: 24.123.192.158 and 24.123.192.170?
Mazz: I believe it orders from last uploaded to the server. What I will need to do is reprogram the Indexer to alphabetise the image listings itself. It's a little more involved coding so give me 48 hrs to finish the programming and it should sort alphabetical.
Strikersa: Our old web ftp software is not directly compatible. However do to it's simplicity and popularity I will be working on recoding it tonight to see if we can get it working again. I also recommend trying FileZilla (an FTP client) out: http://www.furtopia.org/tools/filezilla_2_1_5_setup.exe It is easy to use and a lot faster than a web client.
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Oh ok cool. Thank you for the hard work again.
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Strikersa: Our old web ftp software is not directly compatible. However do to it's simplicity and popularity I will be working on recoding it tonight to see if we can get it working again. I also recommend trying FileZilla (an FTP client) out: http://www.furtopia.org/tools/filezilla_2_1_5_setup.exe It is easy to use and a lot faster than a web client.
All right. I'll try Filezilla while I wait for the ftp software. Thanks! :)
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Took longer than I planned and a lot of work. But I've started the sorting code (will still be adjusting it a bit longer). Sorting is alphabetical with capitals coming before lower case. The Furtopia gallery indexer will sort based on name (default sorting method), time (from when it was uploaded to the server) or by file size.
You can manually set sorting method by adding a file named:
sortname
sortsize
sorttime
to your individual css folders. You can also add the files
msortname
msortsize
msortname
to your root css folder to set sorting for your whole site. You can find other "switch files" for the indexer here: http://www.furtopia.org/indexer
***Added:
The alphabetical sorting of the indexer is finished. I also got the add description="add desc" link working. Next order of business will be the web based FTP. I will also be making some functional and cosmetic improvements to the indexer in the coming days
If anyone has any issues or requests with your service please let me know. Once things are functional for our users I will start working on the Control Panel.
WhiteShepherd
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Well I deleted a lib that the server needed. The option was to run apt-get to restore to get it back. But the restore needed the lib too. :~( So I scrambled for a bit till I recovered it off a CD backup.
Moved the forums to the new server. I need to install the spell checker into the chroot (working on that).
On the positive size I am testing using compression. So let me know if site loading (mainly web sites) loads any faster or slower.
WhiteShepherd
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I'm running into a couple odd problems. First of all, I can't seem to delete some of my folders in my mrinitialman account (in particular, phpmya and my library). I'm doing a complete site upgrade which disnecessitates (sp?) the former and recreates the latter. And now, I cannot see any of my files or folders at all in my FTP program (I use FireFTP).
Oddly, I can see everything in the Coach Random account.
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having a minor issue with my gallery not accepting new pics when i try uploading. It just wants to cycle through the "Select an Image File!" Been having to manually ftp stuff into the directories and check for new images to force them in. x.o
Already tried upgrading it to the newest version and tried chmodding the folders/files since the servers OS's changed but neither's helped. Asked on the 4images site and they said it had to do with a php.ini's upload_tmp_dir not having a valid path.
Thanks in advance and you've all been doing a great job. ^.^
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Okay, I've set up Filezille, but now how I do set it up so I can upload to my account? Thanks in advance!
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ftp.furtopia.org
yourname
yourpassword
port 21
then click quickconnect or you can add it to filezillas site manager.
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ftp.furtopia.org
yourname
yourpassword
port 21
then click quickconnect or you can add it to filezillas site manager.
I entered the information in Filezille, but when I connect I get:
Error: Can't resolve host name
What does that mean?
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Lets try going to:
File - Site Manager on filezilla
type the host in as ftp.furtopia.org
Server type : FTP - File Transfer Protocol
Logon type - Normal
User : yourname
Password: yourpassword
Account: -Leave blank-
Comments: only if you want to ^^;
Make sure your typing it in correctly, the fields are case sensitive. Then click okay. Then back on filezilla's main window, click the down arrow under file and select the site you just added. Hopefully it'll connect without any problems.
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Lets try going to:
File - Site Manager on filezilla
type the host in as ftp.furtopia.org
Server type : FTP - File Transfer Protocol
Logon type - Normal
User : yourname
Password: yourpassword
Account: -Leave blank-
Comments: only if you want to ^^;
Make sure your typing it in correctly, the fields are case sensitive. Then click okay. Then back on filezilla's main window, click the down arrow under file and select the site you just added. Hopefully it'll connect without any problems.
Ah, that got it working. Thank you for your help! :)
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Back from MFM so back to work.
Mrinitialman: I looked into your phpmyadmin folder. There is a .htaccess and .htpasswd file. Is your FTP client showing those files there? They will need deleted to remove the folder.
Thank you werewolfhero for your ftp help. I'll see if I can't run a test today using php upload function. See if I can't track down the problem.
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Back from MFM so back to work.
Mrinitialman: I looked into your phpmyadmin folder. There is a .htaccess and .htpasswd file. Is your FTP client showing those files there? They will need deleted to remove the folder.
Thank you werewolfhero for your ftp help. I'll see if I can't run a test today using php upload function. See if I can't track down the problem.
In Linux/unix based systems, a file starting with a . causes the system to view it as hidden, so it may be hiding it from the FTP program. Maybe.
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not seeing either of the .ht files for my phpmyadmin either so McMajik might be right.
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Werewolfhero I added a directive for "upload_tmp_dir" so let me know if that fixes your programs php upload?
Mister Initial Man I have enabled viewing via ftp of hidden files. You should now be able to delete/modify those folders as needed. All users will now notice a .ftpquota file in their home folder. That is nothing to worry about. It is just the file used by the FTP to track how much of the 150MB a user has used.
On Furtopia we do allow larger than 150MB if it is used for the display of your arts. The old system had a soft cap but was being abused so now limits are hard set with extra space granted on request.
Let me know if these changes do not fix your issues.
WhiteShepherd
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Wewt :3 I can upload normally again ^.^
Thanks for all your hard work Whiteshepepherd.
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Out of curiosity, do you have any idea when the furtopia radio'll be back up?
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I just wanted to say. The uploading speed and page loading speed on my site has improved immensely since this move and since the bugs were worked out.
Oh wow, I just uploaded 155 photos in less than 5 minutes. You have no idea how wicked that was.
Thanks for all your hard work and the hard work of all the staff here at Furtopia. I know how hard you all work and I appreciate it.
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Uh hey there. I read through all the posts a couple times and i guess i must be missing something.
At first i used the FTP link on the main Furtopia site, but after reading through the posts in this thread, decided to try out FileZilla. However, either i can't remember my password or it doesn't seem to want to configure for me.
I keep getting a "530 Login authentication failed" then "Error: Unable to connect" no matter what password i enter.
I have everything set up right but i just don't seem to be getting it to work for me. :\
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Orkid: Send me the address of your webpage in a PM and I will look up your info for you.
McMajick: I expect the radio to be back online in two days. I already have the server loaded. Just need to make a few adjustments.
Mazz: I'm still making tweaks and adjustments as I try and find out what's best and get things online (fit in after my day job to boot). I'm glad things are running faster! Depending on the upload speed of your ISP a user can upload to Furtopia now a max of 10mb per user (we have 30mb total download speed).
I'm currently working on the webpage applications page and should have it fixed and online tomarrow. The new application will be a LOT better as it will be fully automated to a 48hr max wait time.
WhiteShepherd
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Pfft, nobody can spell my name right...
Thanks WS!
And thanks for all this greatness!
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Added a "mobile" theme to the Furtopia Forums. It is a text only theme that's friendly toward phones and low bandwidth connections. It can be accessed form your profile.
WhiteShepherd
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The DJ Radio server is now back on-line!
I'm also officially announcing the start of project “Fur-Civilization”. How many of you know/remember the game Civilization? Fur-Civilization will be a home grown on-line multi-player civilization game based on furry races and units. The engine will be based on the open source game Freeciv. In typical Furtopia ideology the finished game will be released completely free to the public and open source. More details are provided in the game area here: http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,37254.0.html
WhiteShepherd
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Erm...how do we get on to the new radio server?
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Answered you in the DJ forums. :)
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Will the WebFTP go back up any time?
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Just tried uploading to my site via FileZilla. I received a code 530 login authentication fail, along with errors: Critical error, and Could not connect to server. I followed werewolfhero's advice but received the same thing.
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I'll drop WS a note about this.
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Thank-you!
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Varg: I sent you a PM with a temporaly solution.
Quamer.
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Got it. The change worked, which goes to show how long it's been since I updated my site x_x
Thank-you.
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We been having problems with the existing server software. If we cannot find a work around I may swap it out for a different ftp server Sunday.
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Over half of the 'service' links on the main page don't work for some reason. (I've been getting 403 forbidden errors).
Could this be due to the presumably still-ongoing server issues?
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Could this be due to the presumably still-ongoing server issues?
Yes. I've already mentioned all this to WS a few weeks ago and he is well aware of it. He is very busy lately and it's gonna be awhile before he can get those fixed.
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Ah. Ok, thanks for informing me! :D
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Unpinning and closing this thread as the information within is several years old and no longer relevent.