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general furry discussion => furries on furry => Topic started by: Siberian on September 15, 2010, 10:23:57 am
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I was just reading a section about furniture but how would real anthros design clothes? If you were a fox,dog,cat,ect. You would need to have something for your tail. :)
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Actually, digitigrade shoes have been my design question... :D
Doesn't apply to all styles of furries though; there are the plantigrade type who can use standard shoes as we know them
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i've seen a lot of artists, have a croth zipper/button in the back, but with out the zipper.
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I guess it depends on what sort of life said fur leads, and what type of world he or she lives in. If he/she lives in a forest, with not much contact with others, I don't see why he/she would need clothes.
I guess if the world is like ours, they'd probably wear clothes, because we do.
On the other hand, my fursona, Junyad Van Bloodmourne, was brought from earth (as a human) to a different world, and most furs there DO wear clothes.
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Oh, well if we're talking about what our fursonas wear, Avan just has a cape. Because capes are awesome. Well, for more formal meetings with human diplomats, he & the other class-alpha & beta directors all have division uniforms.
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The furs in The Shadow of the Dog Lord all have holes for their tails in the back of their pants/skirts/robes. The holes are just big enough to squeeze the tail through, so the risk of being, ah, indecent are reduced greatly. I've also toyed with the idea of putting armor plates hanging down from the belt or backplate of a curiass, but since I haven't given full plate armor to any culture yet, this idea has not been expanded to the state I'd like.
They also (the civilized ones at least) wear tall buccaneer style boots that are made of a softened leather, so they can bend when the digigrade foot moves.
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One of the races I designed for a non-furry world but which has one furry race wear nothing but belts and other straps to hang stuff from. Other than that because of their heritage even the toughest weather means nothing to them, even at -100 they would be perfectly fine.
Degigrade feet comes down to sandals to protect the the pads of the feet from sharp objects. Some human runners wear something similar in order to run as normally as we evolved to. With hoofers a friend of mine writes as horses and the like sometimes wearing rubber padding on the bottom of their hoofs to provide both traction on certain surfaces as well as to keep from scratching flooring.
as for general clothing it really depends on the author for graphic pictures I'm used to seeing pants with buttons or ties that go over the tail, and slits in dresses for the same purpose.
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In the world I created trousers have a second set of flys at the back and all jackets have a vent in the rear, problem solved.
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I like the idea of making a "sleeve" that adjusts to the tail so as if to poke it out.
There's some who just make a hole in the pants and some who put buckles, belts, and some other weird things...
To be honest, if that doesn't directly affect my area of work (my stories) I try to veer clear of certain explanations. X3
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While it doesn't need to be explained as Serra points out since as many people say in regards to Sci-Fi, an author of fiction that takes place in the real world isn't going to explain how a car works so why should a sci-fi author sit down and explain how a star drive works in their world? However since in some fiction authors will describe people getting dressed, by saying things such as they were talking while buttoning up their shirt, or something similar you can easily slip in something regarding the way a tail is accommodated by clothing, all that needs to be said was that a character buttoned their pants over the tail just as he was walking out the door. It's brief and it gives the reader a more in depth picture of the world you are writing in just a few short words.
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Holes in pants for small tails, you'd need like a strap/belt for bigger more unruly tails. Hats with holes in for ears. Having massive horns, like a ram, it'd be really hard to wear hats D: Unless they were small and fitted between the horns.
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Ah, ears are fun as well. I usually just make hats cause the ears to fold down. As for helmets on suits of armor, I tend on making tall simple helmets that are tall enough to fit over the ears :)
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If there is a fastener in back to accommodate a tail, would it be necessary to have another set in front? Undoing the tail-end fastener would loosen the waistline for putting on/removing pants or whatever.
My sci-fi setting has anthros wearing clothes partly because it's social convention (they're trying to fit in with humans) and partly for practical reasons (spacesuits!).
As far as hats are concerned, I would think that hearing would be considered a major sense for anthros (maybe as much as sight) so they wouldn't want to dull that sense too much. I'm not sure what planet-side head fashion might be, but I like the idea of specially-designed space helmets to accommodate the ears (and muzzle, of course... but that's obvious). The audio equipment would be designed to have directional sound to work with anthro physiology.
End of random thoughts. :D
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As far as hats are concerned, I would think that hearing would be considered a major sense for anthros (maybe as much as sight) so they wouldn't want to dull that sense too much.
Hats tend to work pretty well for anthros, depending on the species, and style of hat. I've always been a fan of the Rabbit-Tophat
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af260/Shimansa/Silverbluehatexample.jpg)
(Credits to Dave Hopkins, of course.)
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Having massive horns, like a ram, it'd be really hard to wear hats D: Unless they were small and fitted between the horns.
Take a look at how Isambaard does it. :D http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4501024/
(By the way, how awesome is this picture??)
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Maybe furs would develop a different taste of fashion considering their bodily limitations and advantages?
I think, for example, some winged furs (such as myself) would like to decorate their wings with some light-weight shiny things, or paint them patterns so that when you spread them they would shine off! <3
Maybe horned people could carve something into them, or into shapes.
And what about aquatic furs with fins? Maybe they could pierce them! X3
And us with fur patterns could use fur dye and paint some stripes or spots in different colors!
The possibilities boggle the mind <3
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Maybe furs would develop a different taste of fashion considering their bodily limitations and advantages?
I think, for example, some winged furs (such as myself) would like to decorate their wings with some light-weight shiny things, or paint them patterns so that when you spread them they would shine off! <3
Maybe horned people could carve something into them, or into shapes.
And what about aquatic furs with fins? Maybe they could pierce them! X3
And us with fur patterns could use fur dye and paint some stripes or spots in different colors!
The possibilities boggle the mind <3
Actually in one of my stories which will hopefully be posted on Raccoons-Bookshelf.com (Shameless plug for a site with some well written furry stories) I have a minor character who is an albino vixen that dyed a harlequin mask on to her face.
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Take a look at how Isambaard does it. :D http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4501024/
(By the way, how awesome is this picture??)
Quite, in fact, it was my friend that took it and I was there at the time :P
That's one way of doing it, yeah, but it'd be harder with hats that are meant to cover the whole head, rather than rest on top etc.
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Meh. Because these are part animals (as in my stories), they have no need for clothes. Their skin is either protected by fur or they have skin that is as tough as leather. Also it would be quite uncomfortable i would say having to put on a pair of clothes with a tail hole because you put your legs in and your tail wont fit or you put your tail in and you knock everything over hopping around to get your legs in.
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As an otter, I'm plantigrade so I can wear regular shoes, but I prefer sandals if any footwear. My ears are small enough that normal hats fit just fine too. Not that I wear them, I always wear my green headband. The only thing I have to get tailored is my shorts because of my massive tail. There's a wide hole for it to go through, and a snap at the waist that helps me put them on.
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Hats tend to work pretty well for anthros, depending on the species, and style of hat. I've always been a fan of the Rabbit-Tophat
(Cut the image to safe space)
(Credits to Dave Hopkins, of course.)
(Silverblue (http://www.gothbunny.net/) isn't his character. ^^; She just got borrowed.)
I don't see much need for too many modifications to clothing for furry use. Tail/ear holes certainly, but not much more than that. My characters go without shoes, so I don't think about that too much.
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(Silverblue (http://www.gothbunny.net/) isn't his character. ^^; She just got borrowed.)
OT: I'm aware ;). Hopkins uses a lot of characters from other media, but that depiction/drawing of her, was by him, which is why I gave him credit.
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Hmmm...
Well, I guess large webcomics can illustrate some issues on how authors address the dressing issue.
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in terms of the tail-trouser issue, i personally see most jeans riding just below the tail, so that you could wear any trousers. these would probably ride kinda low though. the idea of a hole would make them a right pain to put on, but what about lagomorphs? surely they'd have to buy completely different trousers in order for their tail to fir through. same could go for a lizard or any kind of reptile with a fairly beefy/meaty tail.
the shoes idea is a bit weird. when i think of most anthros nowadays however, i think of them being completely barepaw. their pads have just godda take it like men! my kinda view of the paws is mid-way towards the human side of things, sorta like this... http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk154/josh_down/drawings%20done%20for%20me/josh.jpg?t=1286966682 ... so i guess a pair of fairly clunky shoes with a bit of a redesign could be crammed over them.
but nope! take it like a man!
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Shoes really come down to how human a writer/artist wants to make his characters. In my stories very few furs would think of going with out shoes in the winter because of how cooled cement and asphalt get in the winter, especially if they risk stepping on black ice. If the weather is cold enough for black ice a lot of animals simply don't have paws that can handle that kind of extreme. Yes I have one character who's nickname is Snow Dancer because as a kid he would rip off his clothes in the middle of winter and jump around in the snow naked as the day he was born and even as an adult simply doesn't get cold, he just wears a jacket to keep people from thinking he's completely off his mind, and risking getting picked up by the cops for being high on drugs.
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I do think most people who dress their characters have them wear shoes. It just it's part of the set, I guess :D
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I mostly dress my anthro characters as they look better in my opinon. If I was a real
anthro I would likely wear loose fitting clothes that would be cooler.
One added note. I was walking my small pooch on a icy winter day, and after he
did his buisness he wanted me to carry him. So even our furry friends
would likely appreciate paw protection at times.
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I mostly dress my anthro characters as they look better in my opinon. If I was a real
anthro I would likely wear loose fitting clothes that would be cooler.
One added note. I was walking my small pooch on a icy winter day, and after he
did his buisness he wanted me to carry him. So even our furry friends
would likely appreciate paw protection at times.
My dog's fur is a lot more wiry than furry..We bought her a little embarrassing beyond words dog jacket for her, when it gets a bit too cold :P..I know what you mean.
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I mostly dress my anthro characters as they look better in my opinon. If I was a real
anthro I would likely wear loose fitting clothes that would be cooler.
One added note. I was walking my small pooch on a icy winter day, and after he
did his buisness he wanted me to carry him. So even our furry friends
would likely appreciate paw protection at times.
Actually professional mushers always have shoes for their dogs. Glaze ice which looks perfectly smooth is actually full of sharp as needle flakes which, after a while of running, will shred the pads of an unprotected paw.
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i don't really bother with clothes on my furry drawings, as they're covered in fur. *meep*
only time i draw clothing on them is if its requested or i feel like doing so.
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I tend to avoid for drawings, but wear practical clothes in RP. ^^
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i don't really bother with clothes on my furry drawings, as they're covered in fur. *meep*
only time i draw clothing on them is if its requested or i feel like doing so.
Oh noes, the nakedness! X3
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Much of the current military jumpsuits and coveralls have a convenient flap in the seat which fastens with zippers or velcro. Flame retardant too. Military surplus stores have them.
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My creations never wore more than wraps and a loin cloth, sometimes less.
(My designs are based on a tribal lifestyle each based on an element)
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Junyad Van Bloodmourne, in his various universes, wears a multitude of things.
In Skype RPs, he wears:
-Mage Robes
-Shirt and pants
In Exalted, he wears...A Satchel to hold stuff. He's a beastman. Nobody is going to walk up to a beastman and complain about ANYTHING, let alone the fact that he's walking around naked :D!
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Whether or not my winged hominids (Avianids, from a now-defunct RP) could be called furry, they had a number of modifications or purpose-oriented designs for clothing (some of these did not get a chance to be mentioned):
1. Military shirts, weskits, and topcoats/trenches/tailcoats, etc. all have four sleeves; two for arms, at the sides, and two much-larger sleeves at the back for wings (not hugely-long sleeves, but just enough to make them usable even for individuals with full sets of flank featherings (all span the distance between the tops of the shoulderblades and the waistline, for just that purpose); they also have either a wide vent or a cavalry-duster-style divided coattail at the back to allow for individuals with a full-on functional tail plumage (being magic-produced blends of hominids and predator birds, they did not have vertebroid* tails, whether prehensile or otherwise).
2. Trousers with both suspenders for keeping them on whilst in flight, and with specially-designed rear panels for, again, those with fully-functional rear plumage.
1. Boots, for those who could wear them (short-term evolution has set in, several centuries after the initial magical breeding programs that created them), are shaped to the more-or-less standard hybrid cross between hominid and avian feet. Some have talon feet that they are able to scrunch together voluntarily to fit into a boot, some have regular human-like feet. Those who have 'scrunchable' talons kick off their boots when flying, the better to maintain perches on rocks or buildings or what few trees are robust enough to support them; the boots are attached to their trouser belts lanyards or leather belts.
This would be problematic in battle, of course (difficult to imagine them taking the time and risk of putting them on again; I toyed with the idea of talon-boots, wherein each individual talon-toe would have its own dedicated and separate sole, attached to the main foot with flexible leather or chainmailed leather, but ...*shrug*) but the boots are essential for those instances in which advancing on foot is the only real option, due either to terrain or enemy fire. Why? well, caltrops (shudder), for example...
The Avianids have all this uniform specialization partly because they want to be seen as being as civilized as the rest of the world in which they live (they have something of a species-wide, not-entirely-undeserved reputation for ruthless crudity and savagery), and partly because the garments are made so as to form a sort of flyable lightweight armor. (they're a mercenary nation, you see...)
That's about all that's pertinent to this thread.
Mordavo Klimt, my character I've created for one of the RPs on this site, wears a divided-tail frock coat to let his tail poke out when it decides it wants to (it has sort of a mind of it's own in that regard, lol)
Awwww, geez, I wrote another novella, didn't I? sorry about that. :-[
*Please pardon my neologizing ;)
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As I frequently wear a white cloth cap for example, I always imagined glueing a pair of fox ears to it.
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Wearing things like a crap would get really annoying with fur, unless you got used to it. But then again, why would you need a shirt when you already have fur?
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Wearing things like a crap would get really annoying with fur, unless you got used to it. But then again, why would you need a shirt when you already have fur?
Yeah..Other than formalities, who needs clothes. Blah, I say (:
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Also, animals are adapted to the point where they don't need shoes, shirts, pants etc... what would you wear if you were a turtle? :o
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sorry bout that, I think I must have just been possessed by Billy Mays there for a second.
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I Never thought of it. Clothing is very important to my portrayal of Action. His manor and personality is more of a anthro version of William F Buckley. He has a fine sense of fashion preferring business casual at a minimum. Except when going salmon fishing. As I thing about it Acton is more alien than terrain Ursus americanus, broad shoulders, small tail that is tuck in the pants. and wee broad paw protector shoes or goes without.
My Sanrio side conforms to Sanrio's style.
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Could've sworn I've posted this on another thread, but marf.. (: I find clothing to be essential to my fursona, to the point where a specific wardrobe is essentially a major part of my fursona's identity - Navy blue Abercrombie shirt with Khaki shorts, barefoot. Basically what I was wearing at the time I made my 'sona :p
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I only wear a trench coat.
If I button my trench coat all the way, it changes my form and what I am wearing.
If I want to be wearing a clown suit, then It will change into a clown suit.
If I want to look like an humanoid figure then I can look as such.
Without my trench coat I would have been caught a long time ago. The people of my town would have killed me, suspecting me of being a werewolf. Which I am obviously not.