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Offline OSDCC

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« on: October 03, 2003, 03:13:10 am »
Hello, ladies and gentleman. I'm new here; here's hoping the following doesn't hamper my introduction much:

My name is Alex Osaki. I'm a furry, first of all. I'm also an author, and I'm working on a book about the fandom. It's indicative of the nature of the problem that it's taken me two years and dozens of rewrites to come up with about ten pages... Anyhow, I'm lacking in primary source material, so I hit eventually upon the idea of a survey. The goal is to collect as many responses as possible, to help reduce sample bias, etcetera.

The guidelines are fairly simple; they're all contained within the introduction to the poll. I'd simply ask that you please be forthcoming (this is anonymous) and take the poll seriously--it does no good otherwise. It's fairly simple, twenty-one functional questions and a few questions of identity (required by the provider) that you can blow off with gibberish if you choose.

The survey can be found here

The URL for the record:

http://home.comcast.net/cgi-bin/MFEntry?owner=osdcc

The survey is noncomprehensive and the answers are mostly 'multiple-choice'; I originally was going to use a more precise method but my focus group said that this was unsuitable for mass distribution. The questions range from age to interests to sex, and are intended to address demographics as well as what I see as misconceptions about the fandom.

Now, I've posted this at Alt.Fan.Furry; I'm considering posting it at Alt.Lifestyles as well. I'm getting the impression that A.F.F. at least may be less than objective; if you have any other ideas I'm open to them. Also, if you know people who might be willing to participate, you might ask them, too. I'm looking for variety, as well as numbers.

If you have any questions, I can be reached at osdcc@comcast.net, or my AOL screen-name 'OSDCC.' I can also, obviously, be reached here.

Thanks in advance!
-Alex

(edit:

Uh... well, apparently you can't click through. You may need to cut and paste. I'm working on a solution, but my HTML skills are a tad rusty. May take some time. I'm terribly sorry)




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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2003, 05:20:49 am »
Welcome, don't forget to post in the furry greeting forum.

Also, that link wouldn't work for whatever reason. I needed to copy and paste it into a new window.

A couple questions were a bit tricky, but I answered all of them as truthfully as possible. Good luck with the book, and make sure you let us know when you get around to finishing it.

Oh, and since this is post number one for you (and I want to):

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2003, 07:00:20 am »
Hiya Alex, you're an author? Nice one! It's a pleasure to meet you *Massive Hug* I'm new here to but don't worry, you'll fit in fine! *Waves paw*


PS Well done Sun! First this time!
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2003, 03:17:39 pm »
Quote (beyond the darkness @ Oct. 03 2003, 7:00 am)
PS Well done Sun! First this time!

Yay!

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2003, 04:32:43 pm »
Welcome Alex!  I took the poll, and enjoyed it.  I seem to like polls in general; does this mean I'm Polish?   '<img'>
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2003, 04:46:38 pm »
I've filled it out. Good luck with your survey and all. ':cool:'
It's a good idea, really.
These things need to be done every so often, to be kept current with the nature of the fandom.
 
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2003, 06:52:43 pm »
Hrmph.  The URL works, but it just takes me to a page asking for my name and email address.  When I fill it out, I get an error (No Mailform Selected).

Help?
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2003, 07:23:42 pm »
Quote (Lobar Sciuridae @ Oct. 03 2003, 6:52 pm)
Hrmph.  The URL works, but it just takes me to a page asking for my name and email address.  When I fill it out, I get an error (No Mailform Selected).

Help?

I said this ealier, but you need to copy the address and paste it in a new window. Otherwise it messes itself up.

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2003, 08:07:48 pm »
Alright! Hello, everyone! It's nice to meet you!

Hmm. As I said, I really don't know what's up with the URL reference. I've been trying to cobble together my knowledge of HTML and load the survey itself as a frame within another page, but it's taking some time and Comcast is not being very friendly with me. For what it's worth, it worked fine at A.F.F, so my guess is it's just how it loads from here. I'm terribly sorry.

Oh, good. Three cups of coffee later my brain is finally working enough to take a stab at it: here's the link

Link!

At this point I have sixteen responses; my guess would be half from here and half from the newsgroup. I'll report tentative results at twenty-five responses, with a margin of error +/- twenty percent.

I'm kinda happy that I've gotten as many responses as I have. Granted it's sort of improper to assign any special significance to them until I get up into the hundreds, but since the poll has been active for just over thirty hours I figure I could probably do worse.

Thanks everyone!

-Alex

(edit: I guess I should make a more substantive response:

I've done my best to make sure that the questions aren't misleading or ambiguous--that was one of the reasons for having fewer choices, putting simplicity over precision.

I consider myself an author even though I've never been published. I write a lot though, not the least of which being this ongoing project. In a more real sense, I'm a sophomore linguistics and anthropology student at a university in Colorado, in the United States.

I think the survey is helpful, myself. I'm slightly puzzled by some of the responses so far, but the pool of data is so small that I can't really draw conclusions. Yet.)




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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2003, 09:58:11 pm »
I took the poll as well.

Though some of the questions were a bit broad. Like #4. I feel that the answer would be different depending on whether or not the person already knew about furs or didn't.

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2003, 11:12:39 pm »
I took it, and welcome, by the way.

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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2003, 06:06:32 pm »
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Quote (Lobar Sciuridae @ Oct. 03 2003, 6:52 pm)
Hrmph.  The URL works, but it just takes me to a page asking for my name and email address.  When I fill it out, I get an error (No Mailform Selected).

Help?

I said this ealier, but you need to copy the address and paste it in a new window. Otherwise it messes itself up.

I did copy and paste the URL and it still happened.  But the link in the new post works, so I guess it's moot '<img'> .

One small complaint about the survey: There is a check box for plushophilia, but nothing for those of us with a more platonic relationship with our plushies.  I myself have very strong feelings for my plushies, but I haven't done 'it' with any of them (trying to keep this PG-13 ':p' ), and I felt that marking myself as either a plushophile or not a plushophile would be inaccurate, so I chewed on that one for a bit.  Eventually I just ended up explaining myself in your comments box ':p' .

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2003, 10:33:11 pm »
Ah. I'm sorry.

The questions are a little limited as a design of the poll, in places--as the intent of the poll, in some places, was to provide objective responses to lingering misconceptions and questions about the furry community.

Now... I promised results. I note that these are extremely tentative:

Results, MoE +/- 22.4%

And I'm still looking for respondants!

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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2003, 10:55:11 pm »
*waves a paw* Hello! '<img'>

I was one of your early respondents after you posted in alt.f.f. (and I remember that I suggested posting to alt.l.f. as well). Good luck with all this stuff, as I tend to think that the more facts we can draw on the better when explaining to non-furries what we're about. '<img'> Personally, I'd have preferred the more precise questions you originally intended to use, but then I don't like focus groups much in any case. ':p'

Some thoughts on the early results, noting the very high MoE at this stage:

* 75% heterosexual surprised me a lot - that's a much higher figure than I've seen anywhere else. I suspect that this is partly a function of your concentrating so far on alt.fan.furry - certainly I'd be astounded if alt.lifestyle.furry respondents came out anywhere near 75% straight. (And I speak as a straight lifestyler! '<img'> )

* No-one at all believes that the public have a positive view of furriness, or that the popular perception of furry is accurate. Having said that, we respondents appear to be a bit guilty of it ourselves, looking at the way in which most of us said that sex was of little importance to us, but medium importance to others. Though nowhere near to the same degree as non-furs, it seems that we too rather overestimate the sexual element of furry.

* Interesting to note that, while unsurprisingly almost everyone finds the net important to their furriness, literature is considered nearly as important to the fandom as is art - and in fact, more respondents described themselves as authors than graphical artists. That's maybe a little surprising given the popular image, but as a writer myself I'm not all that upset about it! '<img'>

* No-one actively dislikes furcons, which is interesting - there must be someone out there who's had a bad experience at one and been put off them. Plushophilia seems to be a matter of "*shrug* nothing to do with me" to most people, though zoophilia is predictably far more unpopular. The interesting one is fursuiters - a sizeable minority (15%) having a negative view of them. As with the sexuality question, I suspect that alt.fan.furry is more likely to throw up negative responses here than alt.lifestyle.furry would be.

*gasps for breath* By Frith, I've gone on a bit here! '<img'>




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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2003, 04:09:45 am »
Yeah... I wasn't aware until while I was drawing up the poll that there was the stereotype of the 'gay furry.' Then lots of people started mentioning at once--one going so far as to say that he'd heard of people who thought they were gay because they discovered that they identified themselves as furries.

I'm also slightly puzzled at the gender dichotomy--furries being overwhelmingly male. I was expecting this, although not quite what it's come up to so far--ninety-five percent male, as you see.

Another interesting thing is as you noted what furries think about other furries. It's worth noting that all told, out of my responses so far, only one person has said that sex is less important to other furries than it is to him or her.

Another thing of note. Almost everyone thinks that the public assumes sex is very important, but only two had equal values for 'what do you think about other furries' and 'what does the public think.' One of these was a '2', or 'a small degree.' Only one person thought that the public's assessment of sex playing a large part was correct.

Now... I was discussing this with a friend, who noted that it's easier to be an author than an artist and, I suppose, it may be. But it's telling. I think it's also sort of nifty that everyone so far is either a high school graduate or in school presently, and the majority have college degrees (or are in college). We're an educated bunch.

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2003, 09:15:30 am »
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Now... I was discussing this with a friend, who noted that it's easier to be an author than an artist and, I suppose, it may be.


Pfff... I'm glad that friend didn't say any such thing in my earshot! Mind you, it depends whay they meant by "easier". It's certainly not any less hard work, and if they meant that I'd be a little offended to be honest... but it may well cause less difficulty with the public at large, as said public can't just glance at a story and instantly think, "huh?" - they have to make some effort, and those prepared to do that are probably more inclined to be fair.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2003, 10:24:55 am »
I would say that sometimes it can be harder to write a story than draw a picture ( and I do both)..
Both require alot of hard work...

Rember a picture describes a thousand words.. '<img'>

I did the poll buy the way... - I sent you afew coments.. I think you need to explain afew of the words you have used.

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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2003, 03:29:35 pm »
I just took your poll. Good luck with it, and welcome to the forum.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2003, 06:47:43 pm »
As you stated, 20 people/furs is a very small number to draw conclusions from.  You may also see different results if you posted a link to your poll on other sites.  In fact it would be interesting to see what the results are from where furs came from to take the poll.

Furry is definitely male dominated, but there seems to be an influx of females joining some of the forums I'm on.  Yiffy.net I think is running 1 new female for every 4 or 5 males that join.  The female fur population seems to have recently started growing.

I was a little suprised that sex ranked as high as it did.  So many of us seem to rush and say that sex plays a small role when anything goes out to the general public, but it plays some role for the vast majority of those that responed.  It's also funny to note that everyone but one person thought the sex played the same or higher role in the life of other furs.

The online communities response doesn't suprise me at all.  One, it is a predominate way that furries interact.  Two, the only places that the poll is advertised in is on two online communities.  Furry has grown exponentially the past couple of years and it is almost all due to the wide spread use of the Internet.

I'll be interested to see what your responses are when you have a larger group.

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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2003, 03:37:00 am »
Alright, don't have much to say. I've updated the data (Twelve responses in six hours! Whee! ), and it's now down to a more reasonable +/- 15.8 percent. At forty-five responses (ie--hopefully, soon), this drops to below fifteen, and I'm inclined to accord a little more significance to the results.

The link I provided earlier (this one) now contains the updated data. The graphs haven't changed overmuch--there's some tendency towards extremism, and the sexual preferences graph is beginning to get more even. Over all, rather interesting.

The poll is also updated to version 0.6.11, which just adds a small explanation to the question about 'graphic art' (the question was phrased poorly--I got numerous questions about this). Unfortunately I become fairly limited in what I can change--the more the poll differs from its original version, the more likely it is that the earlier results invalidate themselves, and this is something I'm hesitant to do.

-Alex




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