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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2017, 12:57:48 pm »
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Trump is putting more far right people into the National security counsil.
People who don't support rights for minorities, gays, or women. Trump
needs to kick all those hard right people out. They will create more problems
for him and us in the future. I think they are at the bottom of much of the
radical actions Trump has taken.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html

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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2017, 11:11:39 am »
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Trump is putting more far right people into the National security counsil.
People who don't support rights for minorities, gays, or women. Trump
needs to kick all those hard right people out. They will create more problems
for him and us in the future. I think they are at the bottom of much of the
radical actions Trump has taken.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html


That link doesn't get into the National security council issues very well. This
link takes you to a video that goes in depth about it. You will have to watch
it for a bit to see it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/trump-puts-steve-bannon-on-national-security-council/vp-AAmnLtN

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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2017, 12:52:44 pm »
I suppose Trump is trying to protect the public. I just wish he would take the
time to work out a reasonable order with people in the know. Seems like he
is trying to use common sense methods that will backfire on him. Common
sense rarely leads to good plans. The world is too complicated for simple ideas
to work.

Stopping an 88 year old blind man, and a 5 year old, or a  wheelchair bound 75
year old woman from entering the country isn't going to win Trump any favors..
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2017, 01:10:20 pm »
Trump
Not much new since the problems with his refugee ban. Many people
are out demonstrating against Trump and his cabinet picks.

Republicans and Democrats alike are being swamped by calls and
demonstrations at their home offices.

Time will tell. If this continues Trump is in for trouble if the GOP
stops their support of him. Many of Trumps supporters are still
saying. "Give him time." I wonder how much time they will give
him if he continues acting the way he has.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #79 on: February 01, 2017, 12:05:33 pm »
Over 1000 professional Diplomates of the state department have 
protested Trumps order banning refugees. Trump can't fire them,
but I bet he wishes he could.

Trump
Well there it is, Presidnet Trump appoints a GOP conservative
Judge (Goresuch) for the supreme court. The GOP right picked
the man, and Trump gave them what they wanted. A Ivy league
man from Harvard or Yale.

Turns out when the GOP stood in the way of Obama's pick for
the supreme court. It was bought and paid for by corporate america.
Big business wanted a conservative judge that will support their
agenda in the future. They will likely have it with this Judge. He has
supported big business over the worker, and common man.

With this appointment we have another business pick by Trump.
He he has made decisions supporting his religious values over
the rights of others as well.

The GOP is saying this man is highly qualified to do the job
of a supreme court judge, but that doesn't make him a good pick
for the job. No one is perfect of course, but let's have someone
who looks at our nation and balances it against the constitution,
not following the GOP or any policical party when making a
judgment. Thats the reason they get a life time term. To prevent
partisan threats. Of course it's still possible someone could
try to bribe them. It's not very likely as the judges get paid
well and generally have a lot of integrity.

The judges are human of course and in 2000 the judges voted
on party lines for Bush over Gore for president. It's a shame
there isn't a way to keep religious feelings and partison
politics out of the equation. Our constitution was written
trying to do this, but human nature continues to put it to
the test.

The GOP has said that if Clinton had won they would not approve
any appointment of hers to the supreme court. In fact they don't
plan to approve any man that is appointed by the democrats from
now on. Now they are telling the Democrats they should approve
this pick? That is about as hypercritical as they can get. They have
complained in the past that the Democrats were out to pack the court
with liberals. Turns out the GOP wants it full of conservatives
instead. 3 Judges are close to the end of their ability to serve,
so it's possible they could get their way.

It's the constitutional duty of the Senate to advice and consent for
an appointment of the president.. It is not their duty to use politics
as a part of their process. They are supposed to put the apointed
people to the test. To see they are lawful individuals deserving of the
job. Our founders would be pointing their fingers in shame at our
politicians of today.

I have a hunch both the Democrats and the GOP will be
getting an earful of protests from the voters over this pick.
Even the pro life people aren't totally happy about it. Turns
out he wasn't openly against abortion, so they fear he might
not help them get rid of womens right to abortion.

As bad as this all sounds, on occasion a new supreme court judge
turns out to not be what was hoped they would be. So we can hope
if the man is approved he will realize how his dicisions will
affect all the people of the nation, and make them accordinly.

A link to one Senators comments about this appointment.

https://www.merkley.senate.gov/news/press-releases/merkley-statement-on-supreme-court


Link to MSnbc report on the appointment.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-nominates-federal-appeals-court-judge-neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-n714551



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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #80 on: February 02, 2017, 12:51:23 pm »
Trump
Well it seems our new president likes to give foreign leaders a earful of bragging
and telling them how to run their country. Even to give a thinly vailed warning to
Iran.

I really think all those leaks from the White House was more about diverting the
media away from the nomination of the supreme court judge. I am sure he is
aware of the public pressure on the congress to reject his picks. So he likely feels
he needs to help the GOP by diverting attention to things that sound even more
important. He did much the same when he was running for the office of president.


If Trump starts picking on Iran I think he will find his buddy Putin telling him
to back off. After all Iran and Russia are pretty friendly. Putin has a large Muslim
population to deal with, so he will likely put on a good front trying to show he cares
about them. Including Iran.

I hope Trump learns he can't treat other leaders in the world like they are his lackies.
If he dosen't we may find our selves in a a war before the year is out. Then I wonder
how his supporters will feel about their man Trump? Especially when the body bags
start coming home.

GOP
I don't think they ever expected to get so much flack from the public over Trump.
The GOP has always been the party of the Business man. They support them, and
it's not that surprising they would vote for people who are the riches people in the
country. They always make the claim they are for JOBS, but never care that much
about working conditions, wages except to keep them low. They hate Unions the
same way big business does. So the only way your going to get their attention if
to give them the fear of loosing their prestigious job in congress.

Dem
Our friendly democrats have been sucked into the big money love that many of
the GOP has. I think they are finding if they don't return to their roots they will
find them selves hard pressed to stay in office as well.

If things continue as they are. 2018 may become the real year of change instead of 2016. The 
Tea party made big inroads in 2010, but compared to the public outcry of 2017 they weren't
much more than a whimper. At their height they had an approval rating of 39 percent. The
current outcry already has an approval of 60 percent, and may still be climbing.

Only time will tell. Also I want personally apologize to our Aussie friends for how
Trump treated your countries leader, and to our Mexican friends for how Trump
treated your president, and the people of Mexico in general. I think Trump has little
or no shame when he trys to bully our friends.

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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2017, 01:30:34 pm »
GOP
The GOP made the claim thei all the phone calls they are
getting are due to robo calling. Well they can lie to them
selves, but the truth will bite them in the end. They can quit
hiding and come out and talk to the voters too. A GOP senator
from Arkansas who's election was financed by a bunch of
billionairs finally said he would come speak at a townhall
meeting later this month. I have a hunch it will be after he
votes for Trumps picks. I am sure he wouldn't want to disappoint
his super rich supporters.Trump has said he will support
removing the law against churches supporting political
canidates. Another place for rich people to feed money to a
favored canidate. I wonder if the GOP realize a lot of minorities
go to church, and they will be able to support their canidates
via church too..

Trump
Trump should never talk unless it's a speech written for
him. He almost always sticks his foot up to the kneee in his
mouth when he tries to make a speech on his own. He like most
people make slipups when they talk to a crowd. With Trump it's
much worse because he seems to look at his self with  visions
of Godhood in the eyes of his supporters. And now as president
his words have real effects on real people.

I think this is why he falls apart when talking to other
world leaders on the phone. He runs off at the mouth about
things people have little or no interest in, and when they
don't agree with his bluster he gets mad and acts like an
idiot. Then people have to make excuses for him. This could
lead to serious trouble.

Now Trump is trying to place blaim on Obama for the problems
the attack he authorized in Yeman where we lost one of our
highly trained Navy seals, and several others injured. He is going
to own the next mistake he makes that kills our brave soldiers.

Trump was complaining about his replacement on the Apprentist
show. Does he really think the public really cares? Now I
understand he has removed the sanctions Obama put on Russia
for their hacking during the election. Put on your bib Trump,
perhaps Putin will spoon feed you some nice words in return.

Come on GOP, Democrats, Let's hold Trump accountable for how
he is acting. How he is ignoring the constitution. I know it's
only been 2 weeks, but he has squandered any good will the
american public might have had for him since he was elected.
His support in Congress is slipping, and if he starts a war
with Iran, who will support him then?

I have heard Trump really desires appreciation of his actions by
the american public if not the world aaccording to a friend of his.
That friend tried to talk him out of running for fear it might cause
him a mental breakdown.

Stubbernly he didn't listen.  The job of president is the  worse job there
is for appreciation, as almost always half the people in the country don't
like the president for one reason or another.That probably includes half
the world too. If this desire is strong enough he may end up having a
nervous breakdown after all.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2017, 12:22:48 pm »
Trump flies to Florida for the weekend. Millions of tax dollars spent for
the trip. Turns out the GOP is having a super big fund raiser for their senators
in Florida this weekend. You suppose it's a coincidence? I think not, he will
stop by.. I think  we can depend on it.

Why is the GOP having a big fund raiser at this time. It's a year before
any primaries? I think Trump told his rich friends and the GOP party leaders
their senators need to be reminded who butters their bread. So send them
off to a big fund raiser for that purpose.

Trump meets pharmaceutical company CEO's. He never mentioned
controlling prices to them as he said he would during his campain.
Ok all you supporters. You should remmind your man Trump of this.
I bet if his supporters started shouting at him for breaking a promise he
like the GOP legislatures would go hide. Or call them paid anarchists.

Trump is he really in control or a figurehead?
It appears Trump doesn't like to read. He depends on others
and television for his information. So if this is the case
who is really running the white house? Is Trump the president
or a puppet of his advisers?

So far he seems to be following the advice of his avisers,
mainly Bannon, and Flynn. Two right wing racists. I have
said it in the past, Trump is a racist because the follows
Bannon and Trump has a record of treating minorities, gays,
and women like second class citizens.

I know many of his supporters felt there was a smart buisness
man behind his harsh comments, but so far that hasn't shown up.
Trump hates it when people disagree with him. So now he is
calling protesters paid anarchists, people against the state of
law. This from a man who defies the constitutioin for his own
gain.

I often wonder why he didn't tell his supporters he was going to put
the same people in his cabinet he was running Clinton down for associating
with. You suppose he was afraid they might think he was a hypocrite?
I imagine he did.

Trump said he felt a dictatorial government was more efficent,
and he appears to be acting like one with the help of his
puppet masters. If the american people don't stand against
him the GOP may give Trump the power he and his billionaire
frends want.

Dictators often use the excuse. I am protecting the people.
That's what Trump is saying about his travel ban, and is
already wanting an appeal to over turn a Judges stay, because
his ban supposedly protects the american people. Trump has even
revoked the Visa's of 100,000, people in secret apparently
trying to give his ban more credibility. To what end will
Trump go to get his way?

GOP
This is for the people in various states. Several GOP controled
states are pushing to control demonstrations. This could lead
to loss of the freedom of speech and assembly in our country.
The laws could require permit approvals based according to
partisan feelings. Say yes if your our party, No if your not.

The GOP can see the handwriting on the wall. They know they
are in trouble if this unrest by the people continues. The
GOP is a minority party. They can only stay in power if the
majority lets them by not voting. So they do things like
setting up voting districts to favor them, Restrict
voting for people who normally don't vote for them.

Most GOP leaders are people who think they need to control
the common man. They don't want the common man upsetting their
playhouse. They will lie to get their way. I have seen ads on
television already trying to convince people to support Trump
and his picks by contacting their senators.

House GOP members voted to let people who are so mentally ill
they can't be trusted to cash their own social security checks
to have guns. It's up to the Senate to vote next. The NRA doesn't
want any restrictions on guns. So I imagine they will vote the
same. And they worry about Muslims. (shakes head)

I think most people who voted for Trump feel it's too soon to bad
mouth him, but it's not so much the executive orders. He is putting
big business ahead of our country and the people. Above all a president
should follow the constitution which his business practices prove he hasn't.
Now he may start a war with Iran. If it happens the price of Gasoline will
go up fast. All thanks to Trump.



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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #83 on: February 05, 2017, 01:01:40 pm »
Trump
He should like the Saturday night live skits about him.
They are getting better all the time. He should be
willing to laugh at his self. If Trump doesn't like
the skits he should act more like a real president. The
skit writers won't stop, but at least he could be proud
and not have to make up lies to prove why he is.

If he wants people to like him all he has to do is be
honest and care about people. Lying and only caring about
his rich friends will gain him nothing but false praise.
This can lead to paranoia, and mistrust of those under him.

Another thing he has to get over wanting everyone to
like him. No president has ever pleased everyone. One
mans like is anothers dislike.

Trump has to get over this egomainia as president. He
can't run the country like a CEO of a corporation. If
he starts firing people for doing their job, it will
cause him nothing but trouble. Especially if people
feel they have to please him instead.

If he isn't careful his approval rating will be as
bad as congress has been. Less than 30 percent.

It seems those who support Trump may be getting together
in groups to show their support.  I hope we don't have clashes
between supporters and protestors. This will only discredit both
groups.  I am sure our man Trump will point at his supports and
say "Look at the huge numbers of supprters out for me." Even if
there isn't a huge number.

I understand Trump has been studying President Nixon, even
to feel he was a good President. I don't think many from that
era would agree he was all that good. Nixon tried to defy the
supreme court. I wonder if Trump wonders if he can get
away with that? I think that just might get him inpeached if
he did.

Seems the GOP feels it's ok for them and Trump to not
follow the constitution to the letter. As if the fact they were
elected gives them the authority to do what they want. Where
will this lead? The court only has federal marshals to enforce
their rulings. Trump has the US military at his beckon call.
Would our military support Trump in that case? I would hope
not, but I hope we never have to find out.

I listened to one of his supporters talking to a reporter. The
way he talked sounded supishiouly like someone who was paid
to be there. The reporter then talked to a protestor, who sounded
more like a regular person would talk. Just there to show
they don't like Trump, not making a speech that sounded practiced.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #84 on: February 06, 2017, 12:22:24 pm »
Not a lot to say for sunday. The Vice President decided to go see the
superbowl. I wonder if he even cared that his presence created problems for
many people who went to see the game, and not him. Not counting the
considerable expense it cost tax payers for his protection.

The VP was on Meet the press, and was trying to defend President Trump. He is
a smooth talker so when he was asked why even after bad mouthing Obama for
complaining about a court decision back when he was a congressman. He was saying
it's fine for Trump to do the very same thing now, He replyed "I have learned much
over the years in office." He then tried to change the subject. I paraphrased it, but
that was his excuse. I would say he has learned how to avoid questions.

I don't care which party a politician is in, they should answer the question or say
they can't, and admit it if they make a mistake. This business of trying to spin
something bad into something good just destroys their credibiity in my opinion.

It does seem our man Trump is going to be a president that plans to
travel around the country and the world alot. I imagine he has been one
who likes to travel. Otherwise why have a big comfortable airplane of
his own. Of course it did make him look important to some and a con
artist to others.

So to those supporters of Trump I say be proud. Your man may come
to your city soon, and you get to pay millions of tax dollars for his travel
and protection. Odd he said he wanted to cut government costs, but each
trip he makes costs 10's of millions. He should avoid UN-nessecary trips or
pay the cost his self. I mean a billionaire like Trump could afford a few trips..

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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #85 on: February 07, 2017, 01:19:02 pm »
Trump
He continues to fight the courts about his Travel ban. One
appeals court has supported the stay untill a hearing is
held. Now Trump says it will be the courts fault if we have
an terrorist attack. As if Trumps order was going to stop
any and all terrorist attacks.

Our man Trump is saying the media doesn't report terroist
attacks. Perhaps Trump falls alseep watching the news. The
media jumps on any attack terrorist or otherwise. They spend
hours on attacks.

He went to our militaries nerve center in Floria, and talked
to those in the military. Not that they could oppose anything
he might say. So it was a good place to avoid protesters while
making one of his usual speeches.

Trump implied our government kills people just as Russia does.
This accually got some of the GOP upset a little. Others made
excuses for Trump. Putin has people in the press killed along
with leaders of those who oppose him.. I really don't think our
government does that. I can't say it's never happened though.
I am sure there are some consperiacy theories out there
that would say it does.

There is some talk that President Trump isn't reading
some of the orders he is signing. The saturday night live
skit about being under Bannon's control might be more real
than we think. Trump said. I call the shots, not any
one else. He sure doesn't like anything that makes him
look wrong or bad. Now Trump claims he wasn't briefed on
the order to put Bannon on the security council. Well he
only had to read it.

I wonder how Trump felt when the guy they tried to
catch in Yeman called him a "Fool"

GOP
Well our friendly GOP voted for Trumps pick for secretary
of education this  morning. Another Billionaire added to the
cabinet. She has little or no knowlege about public schools.
She promotes privately owned schools, and of course she
owns some of them. Talk about a conflict of interest.  It
seems the GOP  will vote for anyone who gives them a lot
of money which she did for most of the GOP.

They totally ignored the outcry from the public to not
vote for her. I hope every senator who is running in
2018 who only cares about the rich are voted out. Along
with those in congress who do the same.

If we don't this country will be controled by the super rich,
and they think the common man is too ignorant  to make any
government decisions. Trump all be said so. He said I am going
to pick the smartest people when I am elected. Almost every
pick is someone who is a billionaire or a friend of one. I guess
he thinks regular people are too ignorant for the job.

Trump still has almost 650 heads of government agencies to fill. So
far he has picked about 40. I guess he is having trouble finding
enough super rich people that want to work in jobs that won't
give them a lot of prestige.

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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #86 on: February 08, 2017, 01:15:41 pm »
Trump
He should cancel his order for a travel ban and draw up a new 
one that fits the constitution. Trump just can't admit he made
a mistake. It apparently goes against his beliefs. He seems to
fear it will harm his credibility of being a strong leader.

His new education secretary is a fund raiser and
donates to the GOP. She also wants to push religion
for schools. Her ideas have caused Michigan to have
the lowest test scores in the country. They used to
be one of the highest.She also doesn't want to educate
kids who are handicapped physically or mentally.

This is the kind of person Trump likes. I think all he
looks for is how much money they make.

Trump continues to use fear trying to make his self look
good to the public. Fear is what dictators use to gain
power. They say "I need more control to protect the people."

So at some point they gain enough to do anything they want
telling the people it's to protect them. This is how Russias
Putin works. He tells the people he is protecting them, and
since he controls the press the people only hear what he
says. I think Trump is using Putin as a model for how he
wants to run the USA.

There is about 20 percent of the population that would
be in favor of a benevolant dictator. One that agrees with their
way of thinking of course. These people feel it's a much
better way of government. Trump has made comments that
he feels it is more efficent.

Several dictators gained power by using fear, Congress possibly
could declare some kind of emergency to suspend the constitution
if they thought it was needed. Marshal law can be declared during
wartime or emergencies. Even though it seems unlikely. It's not that
big a step moving to a dictatorship supposedly only temporally. Often
once a dictator has power they find excuses to keep it. Since  we have
a highly educated military, its likely they would take over, and
reinstate the constitution if they felt the whole thing was  an attempted
take over by crooked people or another country.

Though we feel our democracy is safe, it's people who run it, and
they can make mistakes that sometimes are hard to undo. We only
need to look at other countries, and the bad leaders they often get.
Rich people often feel they know what's best for the public. Perhaps
they do, but they are humans with human failings, that's why we need
checks and balances for government.

GOP
Last night the majority leader of the US senate stopped a senator from
reading a letter from Coretta Scott King. The letter told of the racist actions
of the Senator Trump picked for the US atterney general. He implied it made
the Senator look bad, and he would not allow it to be read. Then the rest
of the GOP senators voted to agree with the majority leaders ruling.
I think this shows what kind of politicans who call themselves Republican we
have in the US Senate. I hear some are afraid of Trump . They should stand
for whats right and not keeping their seat in the Senate.

Later excuses have been made saying the woman Senator had been warned
to stop making bad remarks about a fellow Senator, and not the letter. I think 
they are trying to cover the fact they don't like minorities and what they say.
Especially since they often don't get their votes.

One other thing. The state of Missouri has passed a law making it a
"Right to work" state. If I understand right the AFL CIO union has
asked for a referendum for the voting public to decide.

It's not just a few states that have this law. The GOP is pushing to make
"Right to work" a federal law. I expect our man Trump will support it.

If it comes to a vote i will support the union cause. Big business
always tries to pay workers as little as they can along with few
benifits. This law is a union buster and the GOP knows it.

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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #87 on: February 09, 2017, 11:52:10 am »
GOP
I wonder how many people know the senates rule 19 was made
for the Senate to stop fist fights on the Senate floor in
1902.

Senate majority leader used it while a Senator was quoting
a honored black womans concerns of a racist the Senate was
about to vote for . I think he planned to use it on the woman
Senator from Massachusetts hoping to make her look bad.
Turns out she has been a thorn in the GOP's side since she
was elected to the Senate. The same Majority leader allowed
male Senators to quote the same latter the Woman Sanator
was removed from speaking for doing the same.

This majority leader has done much by this action to
stir up more women than almost anything else the GOP has
done. Though the GOP is afraid of Trump. The GOP may end
up destroying it's self trying to keep Trump happy.

After the unsucessful attempts to hack our voting
machines by the Russians. Our friendly GOP votes to
end the commission that worked to protect voting
mechanics in our country. I think this looks bad for
keeping our votes safe from those who would like to
change the results to their benifit. Rather strange
for a party who claims to want legal voting. I hope
this wasn't done to make it easier for GOP controlled
states to restrict voting even more.

Trump
He tells the public he is probably smarter than anyone
else, but then Trump turns around saying everything only
requires simple fixes. If there is a problem he seems to
think he can sign an order to solve it. Just like the
Travel ban. He seems to think this will prevent all terror
attacks. A wall which will keep illeagle aliens out. He
looks like a man who has a lot to learn about many things
as well as government.

All this sounds good, but it's never going to do what 
Trump claims it will. I wonder if he really believes
what he says. If so the country will go down hill
following his lead. It's possible since Obama got the
economy so strong it might coast along well even with
Trumps bad ideas till after the 2018 election.

If this happens the GOP will likely stay in power. Then
in 2019 or later the economy could crash. But if the economy
fails in 2018 the GOP will be out and the democrats will have
to pick up the pieces with Trump trying to blame them
for the problems.

A country the size of the US changes slowly, and unless
something drastic hamppens. Trump could ride the wave 
playing his games. I hope all goes well, but there
will be a lot of people hurt if it doesn't.

Like President Bill Clinton said when he fires tran for the
presidency. "It's all about the economy." That's True as
most people vote with their pocket book in mind. His
wife should have remembered that.
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« Reply #88 on: February 10, 2017, 11:51:02 am »
Trump
Our man Trump looses appellate court decision on his
Travel ban. All three judges voted to keep the
stay in place.

Trump was obviously upset over this loss, but instead
of trying to fix his executive order he continues to
fight vowing to win in the end.

Trump still claims he has greater power than the courts
when it comes to protecting the country. The court reminds
him the constitution and rule of law is to be obeyed even
by the president.

Trump calls it policial even though 2 of the 3 judges were
appinted by a GOP president.

He still claims his order is to protect the country, but he has yet to
prove it's not a religious ban as no proof was given to show terrorists
from the affected  countries have attacked our country. Also he has
made many statements saying he planned to ban Muslims if elected. He
could fix this by amending his order, but that would be admitting he made
a mistake. That is a no no for Trump to swallow.

A Poll of his supporters seem to think it's ok for Trump
to call the court names and even to ignore their ruling.
I wonder if they know it's the court that protects their
rights. Without the courts no ones rights would be
protected. The country would revert to strong man law.

It seems some of his supporters think Trumps word should be
law even if it's unconstitutional.

Apparently our schools are doing a poor job of teaching kids about
government if people know so little about how our Federal system
of government is supposed to work. Somehow I doubt if our new
Billionairess education secretary will try to improve it.


GOP
Untill the GOP congress and Senate get a backbone and tell
Trump there are some things he can't do. Trump will drag them
down with him.

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« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2017, 11:38:55 am »
Trump
It appears Trump is starting the alien roundup he promised
in his campain. Officials denied they were doing it. Seemingly
not wanting to warn those who might want to hide or seek
a safe haven. I wonder if they go after illegal aliens from other
countries like the far east, and Europe. Or just Latinos and
Muslims?

Trump threatens California  and other states for not following his 
unconstitutional orders. "California is out of control." was a statement
by our new president. If he has a problem with a state. Let him go to
court and prove it.

This will just add to Trumps problems. These actions may be
legal, but doing it this way is thoughtless as many children
will end up seperated from their parents.

Trumps security adviser has been accused of collaborating with
Russia to help Trumps election. Even to interfere with
Obama's sanctions due to the hacking. Flynn is claiming he
can't remember what he did. Before he said he didn't do it.
Trump is trying to say it's Fake news.

GOP
Now I wonder if the GOP will investigate this. They haven't
seemed to worry about other possible illegal or unconstitutional
activities by Trump and his people.

Our politicans continue trying to avoid groups of voters asking 
them questions about how they plan to vote and why. These groups
number from a handful to several hundred.

As time passes I think our politicans will realize time is
running out for them to vote and then make excuses for why
they voted to hurt those they might need in 2018 if they
want to stay in office.

Trump continues to harp that there was huge numbers of illegal
votes for Clinton during the election. I think this is part of
a GOP plan to restrict voting even more using Trumps claims as
an excuse to do so. There is no evidence of illegal voting, but
Trump continues saying there is. Trump lies all the time so
why believe anything he says without proof.

Now the new attorney general (A GOP favorite of the extreme right ) says 
he is going after voter fraud, protesters, gays, and minorities that cause 
trouble, with all the power of the US Justest department. I have a hunch many 
people will feel it's more like the injustice department after while.

I know people will try to protest Trumps justice, but they will have
more success in the courts and voting booth than in the streets.
Trump will use all the force needed  to combat unruly crowds. 
Perhaps even enough to finish his rule in the end.

I wonder how long Trump will last before he runs out into
the night screaming "I quit".. LOL.. I understand he is 
becoming very frustrated by protesters, news leaks and how
much work he is having to do.

Trump is keeping Airforce One busy. It's his second trip to 
Florida. Once last weekend and now this weekend. I guess he 
is entertaining the prime minister of Japan at his Florida 
mansion and golf course. Instead of spending millions of Tax
dollars going to his home in Florida why not stay in DC.  As usual 
Trump just has to show off to important people. Many many poor
children could have more to eat with the money Trump is
wasting with his running around.

Unfortuantly Trump isn't alone. Almost all rich people in government
are spoiled, and feel they have the right to use tax dollars for their
own benifit. Of course they don't talk about that to their voters.

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« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2017, 12:08:45 pm »
Trump
North Korea launched a large missile into the ocean perhaps to test Trump.
His only response was to say. "We are 100% behind Japan.  A obvious
answer since we have been behind Japan since ww2. We will have to
wait to see if he has anything more to say.

His policy adviser was questioned this morning on "Meet the Press". It was
hard to follow as as usual Trumps people and politicians want to make
speeches every time they see a camera.

He was asked if Trump thought just being in the USA illegally was enough of
a law breaker to be removed from the country. He wouldn't answer the
question. So we don't know what the accual line is as he kept changing
the subject by saying illegal aliens are dangerous people. I have news for
Trump. Drug dealers and gang members know how to stay out of sight, so
the people who are causht generally are people who just want to work and
have a safe life, not hurt other people.

I personally feel if someone has lived in the USA for 5-10 years or more contributing
to society and not causing trouble by breaking our laws and hurting people. They
should be given the chance to apply for citizenship. If they agree they shouldn't
be deported.

Trump is still trying to avoid the idea that  Flynn talked to the Russa about Obanas
Policies. Strange actions for a national security adviser.

We have to wonder if Trump and the VP knew the truth or did Flynn do it alone?
Either way it puts a shadow over Trump and his people.

When Kelly basicly advertised for Trumps daughters business she found that unlike
Trump she can't publicly support businesses as a government worker. I imagine
Trump gave her a nod for trying.



GOP
Will our friendly congressmen and women stand up for the country or follow Trump.
to the extreme right. Hopefully some will draw the line at some point. I understand
many of the GOP find Trump a problem, but are afraiid of his supporters.  I think
they need to be afraid of those who are protesting instead. I imagine those running
for office in 2018 are worried because they don't know who to follow.

Dem
I think it's nice Obama is enjoying his time relaxing after many years of hard work. I 
hope he can help the democrats get back to the people who supported the party in
the past. Working people, and Unions were the strength of the party, not the rich.

In a way its sad that the super rich really run the country even though the public
elects the politicans. It's true, I remember when Bill Clinton decided to run for president
he had to pass muster of a group of the richest elite behind the democrat party.

I sometimes wonder why I haven't heard of this since. Perhaps the rich people didn't
know this was to be told, and have taken steps to keep it under the radar since.

The super rich have a big stake in how the laws of the country affect them, and protect
them. Even with their riches they have to depend on the power of a country to protect
their way of life and they will do anything to keep it.


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« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2017, 12:13:13 pm »
Trump
Canada's prime minister meets with Trump.  Trump says he wants
to change the trade agreement with Canada. It's probably a good
idea as it's been over 20 years and many things have changed over
the years. Trump best be careful as Canada is a very good friend and
trading partner for the USA all around the world.

Trump is planning to sign a new order to possibly fix his travel ban. Who 
knows if it will be any better. I really don't understand why he is making
such a fuss. Obama wasn't making a big stink about it, and people from
other countries were checked out well. The attacks we had under Obama
were almost all from people born and raised right here in the US.

Health care
Canada is giving better care for less money. They do more preventative care
than the US does. Our politicans should look at Canada to improve health
care in the US. The cost per person averages 47% less in Canada. Some claim you
have to wait for care, but that is only for elective care. More people die in the US
than Candians do to lack of care. Everyone is cared for rich or poor. I am sure
there are instances where people feel they didn't get the care they need, but its
more likely to happen in the US than Canada or many other countries.

It seems it's profit first and care second in the US. I am not placing blaim
on our health care workers, but those politicans who care more about the
relection money they get from the rich than health care for all americans.

Trump was caught discussing security information on N. Korea in front of
people who likely didn't have clearance to hear it. He jumped all over Clinton
for not being careful with security matters, what's his excuse?

Today there are large demonstrations happening in Wisconsin against  Trump
and his travel ban. More are planned across the country. People best work
to change local state canidates in 2018 if they want to make real changes. It's
the GOP controlled states who decide how to set up voting districts for congress.
In 2020 they will be changing them again. If the GOP is in power in your state.
They will set the districts to favor themselves.  I don't think either party should
be allowed to set districts, They should be set to balance voters for all concerns
as even as possible.

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« Reply #92 on: February 14, 2017, 01:00:31 pm »
Trump
I hear our man Trump canceled another one of his ralles. I
guess he was afraid there would be more protesters
than supporters. Maybe he is allergic to "Boooos"

His security adviser Flynn resigns. He should have left
sooner. It may be too late now as questions will be asked
if Trump told Flynn to tell the Russian ambassador the
sanctions would be taken care of once Trump takes office.
Trump has said he makes all the decisions so if one of his
men did something it's very likely it was Trumps design.

I wonder if Flynn is found to be guilty of breaking the
law, will Trump Pardon him? He might, but probably not
a good idea.

I think if Trump would get rid of Bannon too, his probelms
would become less. Only time will tell.

I understand the GOP is finding it more difficult to stand behind
Trump. More of them are speaking out against him and his people.
I wonder how long the GOP can avoid starting investigations on
Trumps activities. Some of which really should be since they have
little or nothing to do with partisan politics.

Trump makes claims he supports women, but Trump has a history
of treating women with little respect. They have to fit his
ideal of how women should look or act to get any favor from
him. He has only 2 women in his cabinet.

Trump gets his pick for secretary of health, and human
services. A smart man to hear Trump talk, I heard he
recieved 250 million to take the job. I guess that could
be considered pretty smart of him.

Trump plans another trip to Florida. Apparently he has gone
so often the secret sevice is saving money by keeping the
infrastructure in place. So that keeps the costs significatly
lower. Only 3 million dollars for the round trip. Stil they
have to fly 2 or 3 Airforce one planes. That requires fuel
and maintenance and man power. Trump used to complain about
Obama spending money to go on a vacation. Obama stayed in
Washington DC most of the time, and went to Camp David for
a weekend of rest now and then. That was just a short helicopter
ride away.

Just more hypocrisy by our man Trump. He also doubled the
membership fees for his club in Florida to %200,000.00 a
year. I guess Rich people feel it's worth it to have the
chance to talk to Trump.

Trump is using his office to make a lot of money. I guess
we should expect it, Most Billionaires acording to Trump are
very smart. As I said before, Trump loves money, and those
who have money. Just look at people around him, almost all of
them are Billionaires. People who will step on the common man
to get what they want.

I hear Trump is having problems finding people he wants for
heads of agencies. Apparently due to all the problems and
iradic behavior of Trump. Perhaps most of his friends are too
smart to get involved with him.

Billionaires may be smart, but they carry a lot of baggage
with them. Many of them do things that would get most of us
put in prison, but they have the best lawyers, and manage
to wiggle free in most cases. Trump is no exception. I think
he will have a lot of problems having his super rich friends
working with him. They all like to run the show, and some could
cause trouble by being loose cannons.

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« Reply #93 on: February 15, 2017, 12:04:40 pm »
Trump
As smart as our man Trump claims to be, I kind of
wonder if Trump is smart enough to know he should ask
for help. Help from more than one person, non parisan experts in
the affected field to compare with each. This idea of his that only
rich people are smartis going cause him nothing but trouble.  Trump
is said to not like reading, instead he  watches TV. He should be 
talking to experts not listening to some one on TV who may or may 
not know anything or just being political.

Trump needs to remember he is working for the whole country,
not just those who voted for him. This business of only wanting
to please his supporters is wrong. He unlike congress should
be non political. His business is working for us all, not his
friends and politics.

Our man Trump knew that Flynn was at risk for being
blackmailed by the Russians three weeks ago.Why did
Trump wait all this time to tell him to go? Over the
past three weeks Flynn had access to security secrets.
Perhaps even names of people who are putting their lives
on the line to spy on Russia and other countries that
don't like us. There are many who would love to see
the USA disappear into history.

Flynn may be the one behind Trumps kindly feel for
Russia. As he has been to Rusaia a couple years ago.
Where he spent time with Putin.

GOP
Our friendly GOP leadership feels there is no reason
to investigate Trump, his security adviser Flynn or
any one else.

They claim they are too busy to investigate wither
the president or his people were involved with
russia before the election and or after. They say it's
the business of their security hearings if they do. I
have a hunch they don't want a public investigation
on this at all.

I imagine if you let a fox guard a henhouse you probably
wouldn't want to tell those who owned the chickens where 
they they went, and why they didn't take their feathers.

The GOP man who was appointed as atterney general worked
in Trumps campain. So I really don't think he will do a good
job or want to investigate his self or those who were involved in 
Trumps campain concerning the Russian connection.  So far he hasn't
disqualified his self, and he should.

I can just about guarentee the GOP would be falling
all over them selves investigaineing Clinton if
she had been accused of this as president. This
has nothing to do with politics. It is about the
safety and integrity of our country. The GOP
should be ashamed for being political at this time.
There will be more than enough time to pass laws
for their ideals at a later date. I think they want to
pass their far right laws now with over a year before
the 2018 election. They know most voters have a short
memory, at least they used to. That might have
changed though.

If the public lets them get by with not doing
their job, where will it stop. I fear many people
will find their rights gone unless they are a white
male, and not gay. or anything ofther what some
religious people think is natural.

I heard they made some rule changes about how
people are quarantined due to sickness. Now this
sounds good on the surface, but they are even saying
if people have symptoms similar to the desase they
are concerned about quarantine them too. This is another
fear tactic. Some desease can take weeks to surface
after someone has been exoised to it. They would have
to quarantine entire cities to stop some diseases. I am
not sure Trump had anything to  do with this, but it's likely
one of his picks did.

There is nothing wrong with being carful, but a balance
is needed to prevent the abuse of human rights.

Dem
If the democrats don't get busy, and start working to
put good people up to run for congress who will.Perhaps
some independents can.. Other wise the GOP will hold
power.

If we leave it up to the billionaire class this country
will continue moving to an authoritarian system of
government.
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« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2017, 12:24:42 pm »
Trump
Our man Trump still defends Flynn claiming the media and
illegal leaks caused the problems. I find this a shameful way
for Trump to defend anyone. If someone makes a serious mistake
it's better to find it out no matter who exposes it.

The cabinet pick for labor secretary was withdrawn today.
Due to some things he did in the past. There may be others who
may meet the same fate eventually. People who have a lot of
money are hard driving individuals. They work long hours
making the money they love. So they tend to be short tempered
if they feel their money or reputation is at stake. This often
causes them to do things if brought to light can disqualify
them to be leaders of government.

Of course many of them have powerful friends that can make
life difficult for anyone they want revenge on. This can make
it hard to expose them as people fear what these people can do.

I think we have noticed that Trump wants to sue people who
accuse him of doing bad things. Like the women who made claims
about him. So he like most of the super rich are ready to give
regular people problems if they get in the way.

Usually when we think of criminals we think of some poor slob
or punk wanting something they don't want to work for. Turns 
out those you wouldn't imagine do bad thing too. Rich people 
are subject to human nature as poor people are. Perhaps even
worse because they have the money to really hurt a lot of 
people when they get dollar signs in their eyes.

GOP
Seems more of the GOP are speaking out against Trump, and
his people. Hopefully more will find the courage to do so. Some
might feel this Russian thing is trivial, but our way of life
could be threatened with things like this. I hope those in
the GOP find their patriotism over politics.


Demonstrations are still going strong across the country. Sp 
perhaps some GOP congressmen are getting the message, and
feel they better listen a bit closer. I hope the democrats
get the message too..

Trumps plan to rid our country of immigrants continues with
hundreds of deportations. Even those with minor offenses.
I think the Statue of Liberty that stands in New York 
harbor would be crying if it could. At the base is a plaque that
reads.  "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses
yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming 
shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift
my lamp beside the golden door!"

Almost all of us who live in the USA are immigrants or
descendants of them. Even Trump. Instead of kicking good hard 
working men and women out, offer them the option to become
citizens instead. Many of our best americans were and are
immigrants. 
 

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« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2017, 12:21:27 pm »
Trump
Our tweeting president had a long news congerence today, with lots of
lies, and bragging as usual. Probably trying to divert attention about
his failure with security adviser General Flynn and connected troubles.

Twittering Trump claims his Travel ban was perfect till the
bad courts messed it up. He claimed a congressman wanted to have
a meeting, and lied saying the congressman backed out. He asked
a news reporter set up a meeting with him and the congressional
Black caucus. This would be impossible for a news reporter to do.
Trump called the news leaks by people in government are fake news.
Does Trump feel everyone in government lies but him? It sounds like
it.

Our twitter man continues to say he is smarter and better than anyone
else. How can a egotistical man ever do a good job as president. A job
that requires the expertise of thousands of people he needs who I am sure
know their job much better than he does.

Trump doesn't like it when people ask him about being racist or our anti
somatic problems. The question wasn't about him personally anyway. It
was about the rise of  anti somatic activities in the country. But he
is so thin skinned he doesn't listen to the question enough to understand
it. He doesn't like having his administration said to be in chaos.
Instead he claims it's running like a fine tuned machine. Of course
all these things that are said by the press is fake news according
to Trump. Unless it's something he likes.

It's understandable that a politican wouldn't like the pres because
they are a light that shines to hold them accountable. Trump isn't
the first politiican who has hated the press, and he won't be the
last.

Trump claims he has done more in the last month than any president since
Reagan. He hasn't accomplised anything except sign some executive orders
one of which was a travel band that has been shut down by the courts.
Trump had several bankruptcies. Perhaps we can understand why after
only a few weeks of him trying to be president. No one can succeed alone
as president, no matter what Trump claims. When Trump is caught in
an obvious lie he sometimes backs up and blaims  someone else by saying
 "That's what I was told."

GOP
We may see movement from Congress soon with or without Trumps help.
They will likely lay a bill on his desk for him to sign or not. Trump needs to
get on the stick and start working with congress instead of just talking
and tweeting. That is if he plans to get anything he can put his name on.

I really don't mind how long they drag it out.The closer we get to the 2018
election the more politicans will listen to the voters.



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« Reply #96 on: February 18, 2017, 11:53:44 am »
Trump
His pick for the EPA was approved by the GOP, A man who
has sued the EPA several times to help big industry in
his state. I have a hunch this guy doesn't live near a
fraking rig or pipeline. Few people if any who are rich
do. Obviously they can live where they want, but how can
they make decisions on thing they have no experience with.

The approval of this man is more proof that the GOP cares
more about big business than the health of the american
people.

http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/the-man-who-ll-head-up-the-epa-827504707659


Trump and his family are running up high costs for the tax
payer.
Here is link to a page that shows how much our jet setting president is
costing american tax payers. It's more than just trips to florida.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/trumps-florida-trips-cost-taxpayer-money.html

Trump is used to traveling at the drop of a hat and now he
thinks the tax payer should support his disire to be on the
move. Odd he used to complain about Obama spending money for
his travels. Saying Obama should stay in the White house.

Trump seems to still be in campaign mode. He seems to crave adoring
crowds. I am thinking those crowds will be harder to find as time
passes.. Also he should refund the Tax payer when he makes one of
these stops that masasges his ego.

I Get most of my info at these links.

http://www.msnbc.com/

http://www.politico.com/



GOP
Many of our friendly GOP congress members seem to be hard to find these
days. Are they afraid to tell peple in their district why they are
supporting Trump?  I would think they would be happy to stand up for
the twitter man.

Many conservatives in the GOP are saying these immigrates are here
illegally, Why shouldn't they be kick them out. I would answer them by
saying if you had went to the trouble to pick them up with a few days or
even months of their entry fine, but to let them stay for 10-20 years or more
then decide to enforce the law. I think that is just politics and not worrying
about law breaking.  If they are caught being a danger to the public, export
those that are. After all they would be in custody and ready to go.

Also many immigrants have been allowed to work here for the benifit of big
business, and the politicans have known this for many years and little if
anything has been done to stop it.

Trumps plan will cost the nation billions to catch 11 million not counting the
economic loss due to many providing needed services.

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/rep-castro-trump-admin-coming-for-undocumented-immigrants-880002627838
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #97 on: February 19, 2017, 01:34:19 pm »
Trump
He is still telling us how big his win was. How big his
electorial win was. Even bigger than any president got since 
Reagon. Well he best study the real facts as Bill clinton 
got more both times he was elected, and Bush got more once.
The media interviewed few of his supporters. Some traveled 
hundreds of miles to see him. I hardly think the average
supporter has the time or money to travel that far. I would 
say most that do are activists. You could tell by listening
they were strong supporters. 

Trump often hurts his self by talking about things like
his winning, how smart he is, or bad press instead of 
just doing his job. It's like he doesn't know how to
quit running for the office he won. In a couple years
or so he can start politicing again, but the best way
to win in 2020 is by doing a good job.

Our twitter man Trump falls back on fake facts when
he doesn't have a good answer for a question. I did 
hear he paid for the florida ralley he had. I believe
out of his war chest for the nxe election. I was concerned
that he would use tax dollars. So my hats off to him over 
that.

Trump claims the media is the enemy of the american people.
He should know lies generally require more lies to cover them.
So the last thing the major media would want is loosing the
trust of the people. Putting out the facts is how they
make money.

Talk radio is the worst because they say what ever their
audience wants to hear. If they didn't they would end up
without an audience or money either. So talk radio is mainly
for entertainment, and a outlet for the coffee shop politican
to call in and complain or brag on their man.

Trump is trying to do the same thing as talk radio does. Tell
people what they want to hear, and deny what they don't. Blaim
the major media for his problems. Then in a ralley he gives a
few of his followers a place on stage to
make them feel like he cares.

People are saying Trump needs to lead the country out of the
division we are in. The trouble is Trump doesn't seem to know how to
lead. He is a "Pusher" not a "Leader". In business you have
to push push push to get things done. Trump may get his shoes
dirty when starting one of his buildings, but then he turns it
over to the general contractors because he has little or no
idea how to do the accual building. So he pushes the contractors
to get it done. I have seen people like Trump out on jobs. They
stand around talking to the General contractors who is the real 
leader of the operation. They ask can you get this done by such 
and such a date, or can you change this. Or I want this changed.

Most contractors hate to see people like Trump show up, because 
they act like they know everything, but just cause problems 
instead by asking for the impssible.  Trump hasn't hired people
fo most government agencies as of yet. They are the General
contractors of government. So get with it Trump.

Trump may never figgure out that he can't run our government
like a business, I have a feeling even many of his supporters
will eventually see through Trumps fake claims.

The american people are not stupid. Many look to Trump to improve
their lives, but if he and the GOP start hurting too many people
they will pay in 2018. Even the GOP's fancy voting districts may
not keep them im office.


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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #98 on: February 21, 2017, 01:01:49 pm »
Trump
Our man Trump finally found a new security adviser. This one however isn't likely to be a yes man
for Trump. He appears to be more interested on our country than politics. Only Time will tell.

Trump is working on a new Travel ban. It may have to pass jugdement by the courts. But
perhaps he is taking his time to do it right this time.

The 25th amendmant of our Constitution allows the VP and cabinet to take power if they
feel the President is incapable of doing the job.. I kind of think Trump would start firing
his cabinet if he caught wind of something like that.. There apparently is a fair amount of
discontent among his people in the White House. So time will tell.

GOP
Our friendly GOP has a bill in congress to make abortions of any kind illegal. Even for
Rape, incest, or even to save the life of the mother.. The law would call a woman a
vessel for man to use to create a child. Thus removing any right of the womens
control of her body in that respect. The man would decide under the law if an
abortion was really needed.

This would be in effect from the point of conception, and to even outlaw
contraceptives or any protection. Seems our religious friends feel the act
should only for reproduction and anything else is wrong or sinful. They
should know you can't regulate sex even with pain of death.

I am not in favor of abortion to choose the sex of a child or due to inconvenience,
but this is going too far in my opinion. This will only harm women and will cause
the need for more abortions not less or none. Women died going to back alley
clinics and even doing it them selves, before it was legal.

Our friendly GOP congressmen and women are finding large groups of voters
are still showing up for townhall meetings. Some are even hiding from their
voters. If this continues I am sure GOP billionaires will start pouring money
into advertising trying to keep the GOP in power. I have already seen ads on
TV asking people to support Trumps picks.

This is a good sign people are starting to have an effect with their
demonstrations.
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« Reply #99 on: February 22, 2017, 11:31:21 am »
Trump
Our man Trump talked about how much debt our country has. Now he wants
to spend billions on defense, infrastructure, immigration deportation, and
a big wall  that will add over a couple Trillion dollars to the debt, and does he
advocate a way to pay for it? NO, in fact he is wanting to reduce taxes for
the richest people who have so much money they have trouble speding it
legally.

Our man Trump finally said the anti somatic ativities around the nation
are terrible, but he didn't say."I am fully against it, and I don't want any
thing to do with those who do., and I will have the attorney general go
after them as terrorists." I think he is afraid he might loose some
of his racist and anti somatic supporters who voted for him.

The far right doesn't like Jews, Moslims, LGBT community, women rights,
hispanics, and minorities. Trump has to say he isn't a racist or
anti somatic, but he is slow to bad mouth those who are.

Now investigations are starting about the possibiliy that Trump
and his people are involved with Russia and their war in Urcrane. It
appears there was investments into the gas and oil industry there. Only
time will tell. The new atternory general was part of Trumps campaign
fromt the beginning, so he has no business telling the Justice
department who or what to investigate. He should excuse his self,
but so far he hasn't.

The Trump admnistration is wanting to return to privately owned prisons.
Obama was trying to move away from them.

GOP
Our friendly GOP congress men and women are slowly starting to
oppose Trump on a few things. Some of course will never oppose
him.

The GOP leader of the senate commented to a group of voters in
effect.  "Winners make policy, and loosers should go home."  Perhaps
that is how he thinks it should work, but if the winners step on the
loosers needs they will likely be the loosers next time.

They made up all kinds of misleading stories trying to stop the ACA
in 2009, but now those same people are having to defend the claims
they made, because many people have insurance that could'nt afford
it before, and don't want to loose it. So Congress will have to
fix it or they may find themselves wihtout a job in 2019.

The excuse has been made that those who fail to get insurance shouldn't
be able to buy it if they wait till they get sick. Now this may lbe good reasoning
on the surface, but a lot of people get heath insurance through their employer.
So what happens if they develop a health problem while they have insurance.
Then get fired, or the company goes out of business, and loose the coverage?

Oh not much, now they need insurance and can't get it if the GOP controlled Congress
has their way.  There are many ways a person could get caught sick without insurance.
Comparing  health coverage with insurance for your home or car is a poor example.
Personally I think coverage for health should be guaranteed like it is most of the civilized
world.  Health care should be for all. Not just for those who can afford it.

Our friendly GOP controlled congress sees to it they are covered 100 percent. So why
not us? If they think it would cost too much then let them pay for theirs too. After all
most of them are multimillionaires.

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