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not-so-furry discussion => general non-furry discussion => Topic started by: Kobuk on August 01, 2019, 04:07:11 pm
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Anybody hear of, or have eaten, an item called "Impossible meat"? Basically, it's like meat, but has no actual "meat" in it. It's all made with plant protein or some other meatless ingrediants.
I'm a carnivore. I like and want meat. REAL meat! Not any imitation substitutes. Is this what the future will be? No more regular meat hamburgers at McDonalds? No more steaks at your local restaurant? No more "meat" hot dogs when grilling out?
Sample link to what I'm talking about.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/01/business/impossible-whopper-national/index.html
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I've had meatless "meat" before. And yeah, I like it. Imitation meat has gotten better over the years too.
Prices of real meat are going to start rising and frankly, the large scale farming for everyone to get their real meat has reached the point of being unsustainable in the long run from an environmental point of view. I'm fine with this rolling out in a big way. I'm sure some people will moan about it, but if this is the future, sign me up. If it tastes the same, and it is giving you your protein, then what's it matter?
If your meat HAS to have real meat in, then would you be happy eating cloned meat? It's real, after all.
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They take away meat something bad is going to happen were humans we can't just survive off of veggies its fine to have vegan options for the vegans but don't cram your fake crap down our throats
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Never had it but I am a hardcore carnivore (hey, that rhymes! :D )
I've had people attempt to feed me burgers that were like 30% tofu, thinking that that I wouldn't realize the difference. It upset them a lot when I retched and told them it was the worst tasting burger I had ever had.
We got into a bit of an argument because they said it would taste better if I had put tomato and lettuce or onion on the burger but I insisted that I cannot abide the way vegetables feel in my mouth.
And that's the rub. It isn't the taste of veggies that puts me off, it's the way they feel in my mouth, how it feels when I bite into a piece of celery or a leaf of lettuce or a piece of onion. No matter how it is cooked, it does not feel the same way meat feels and the feeling of vegetables makes me ill. I always feel like I am biting into a cockroach, and sadly I DO know what that feels like. :(
Eventually my friend did come clean about what he tried to pull on me and said he was trying to show me that tofu feels and tastes the same as meat. He couldn't believe that I was able to detect it but when you have a mouth like mine that strictly consumes ONLY meat since I was a little kid I can take a pepsi challenge on that fake meat stuff.
And hey, I'm an open minded woman. I'm not against fake meats for any other reason than they do not taste, smell or feel the same as home grown, bloody red meat. However, if science can produce a meat substitute that feels like real meat in my mouth, tastes like real meat, smells like real meat and doesn't make me feel sick to my stomach like fake meats do, then I will happily eat it. But that is a VERY high bar and I will not accept anything less than genuine meat till then.
:goldbloody: :goldhowl:
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I actually took a Pepsi challenge once long ago. Pepsi seemed really sweet. It had more of a fizzy bubbly taste to it. Coca-cola on the other hand tasted very syrupy. Like almost too much of that caramel food coloring additive. I've always preferred Pepsi over Coke.
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I've always preferred Pepsi over Coke.
Them's fightin' words there pardner.
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I tried tofu I had to run out of the restaurant gaging I told my cousin never again you hippy
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My reaction to every "meat substitute" I've tried: youtube.com/watch?v=7sYJinHOvwM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sYJinHOvwM)
I don't know why they bother; it's like they're admitting they can't make vegetarian food taste good without cheating. Personally I can't wait for cultured meat so we can finally put all these embarrassing failures behind us.
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They take away meat something bad is going to happen were humans we can't just survive off of veggies its fine to have vegan options for the vegans but don't cram your fake crap down our throats
I'm living proof of this. Tried to go veggie. Ended up physically hurting my liver. Doc put me on a high protein diet. I've had to checkups sense then. Everything's back to normal. I don't care if it comes out of a test tube. As long as it's real meat I'm good with it.
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I have had "fake meat" on a number of occasions. I agree with Kay in that it is the texture thing that bothers me. It just does not feel like a piece of meat to me. That is what sets me back. And I guess I have been conditioned to taste "meat" when I'm presented with something that been traditionally flesh and not plant material. So, it may be that I would have to condition myself to accept it. I do like my meat to be meat.
Having said that, if someone enjoys or wants to promote meatless meat, then that is something that they can do. I just won't necessarily jump on the wagon with it so to speak.
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I've been tempted to try ground turkey and have turkey burgers, etc., but I haven't tried it yet.
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Ground turkey is good just add a bit of extra oil to the pan or it burns and drys out
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Is this synthetic meat energy efficient to produce? They must already process the bejabbers out of soybeans to get soy milk and butter substitute, but--like soy milk--it probably has a certain snob appeal.
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https://impossiblefoods.com/
https://www.cnet.com/news/beyond-meat-vs-impossible-burger-whats-the-difference/
I WANT REAL MEAT! :goldbloody:
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Amen
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I've been tempted to try ground turkey and have turkey burgers, etc., but I haven't tried it yet.
Turkey is real meat. :D That sounds good! A turkey burger. Covered in a celery sage pesto and lots of butter. With a slab of cranberry sauce. Like a holiday in my mouth. I'm going to try this.
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I've been tempted to try ground turkey and have turkey burgers, etc., but I haven't tried it yet.
Turkey is real meat. :D That sounds good! A turkey burger. Covered in a celery sage pesto and lots of butter. With a slab of cranberry sauce. Like a holiday in my mouth. I'm going to try this.
Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
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I eat turkey burgers regularly. I like the taste, I add spices from time to time to jazz it up. I also get way less fat and more lean meat this way. And it is real.
My mom will gag if she eats it. When it cooks she says..." smells like someone didn't pluck the bird, smells like burnt feathers!"
I of course like chicken, pork, beef, fish, dinosaur, dragon, corgi, coyote, malamute, etc... Corgi thigh muscles are rather delicate and juicy, just add a hint of tarragon.
I like Turkey burger with usual fixings of dill pickle, lettuce, tomato, onion, yellow mustard. I have used black pepper as well as rosemary or sage as well with good results.
My dog, in fact, would take turkey burger when sick, when all other foods she would shun. Of course when she was in her last few days, she wouldn't take any food.
Synthetic meats, I just go into it knowing its fake, yet should be harmless, and i eat it. I can usually gag my way through most foods if I know they are harmless. I grew up eating my grandmothers rubber pickles which were tasteless, slimy, old as Muthuzela, and made me burp for a few days.
If people are brought up knowing no difference and there is no nutritional difference, perhaps more people will use them in the future. But for a fur who has bloodlust, veal is real. Soy is beans.
However... no need to shut down the synthetic junk. Lessens environmental burden (perhaps) and allows others to keep getting their meat-fix. This, eating meat, is not going away anytime soon.
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I of course like chicken, pork, beef, fish, dinosaur, dragon, corgi, coyote, malamute, etc...
How dare you! I'm offended by that! :goldpissed:
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I of course like chicken, pork, beef, fish, dinosaur, dragon, corgi, coyote, malamute, etc...
How dare you! I'm offended by that! :goldpissed:
Tastes like good-ole mountain dew! Sweet, and smooth.
:) (:
(Now... what other fur will actually catch that?)
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How dare you! I'm offended by that! :goldpissed:
Cannibalism doesn't count if it's cloned. *chows down on own cloned sirlion* What? I'm low-fat! ;)
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Hide this from farfar he might napalm you while you sleep jk lol
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Thanks FoxPup.
Yep cloned malamute!
It's a dog eat cloned dog world out there in the year 2104
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We could aways go to Soylent Green. :D
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We could aways go to Soylent Green. :D
Just add some hot pepper sauce to those Soylent Greens ;)
But yeah, cloned meat? Hey, Ill eat it if safe to do.
Plant based meat substitutes , same as above.
No meat? I do that too.
Just tell me the truth when I buy it!
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We could aways go to Soylent Green. :D
Soylent Green is furries! :o
Just tell me the truth when I buy it!
Actually, this is what bothers me. What if a company, restaurant, or some other person or place did NOT reveal that the product they were selling was a meatless substitute? Food companies, restaurants, and retailers have been caught lying multiple times in past decades about the stuff they sell, how something is made, the ingredients they use, and so forth. If I go to McDonalds and they serve both the regular meat Big Mac and a meatless Big Mac, then how do I know I'll get the regular Big Mac if I order it? What if a cook secretly switches the patties used without telling me? Or what if the company's CEO secretly tells all it's restaurants to secretly switch all the patties without telling it's customer base? What then?
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Actually, this is what bothers me. What if a company, restaurant, or some other person or place did NOT reveal that the product they were selling was a meatless substitute? Food companies, restaurants, and retailers have been caught lying multiple times in past decades about the stuff they sell, how something is made, the ingredients they use, and so forth. If I go to McDonalds and they serve both the regular meat Big Mac and a meatless Big Mac, then how do I know I'll get the regular Big Mac if I order it? What if a cook secretly switches the patties used without telling me? Or what if the company's CEO secretly tells all it's restaurants to secretly switch all the patties without telling it's customer base? What then?
I'm not fluent in legal matters but i would think they have to inform people for allergy reasons. You can't just switch someone's food on them without them knowing, it's highly illegal.
When I worked at McDonalds two guys got fired for giving customers diet soda instead of regular because the customers in question were large women and they felt the women didnt deserve to drink regular soda till they lost weight. Incidentally they made it no secret about what they were doing and why and were promptly fired.
Soy allergies are a real thing and in extreme cases can cause a person's throat to close up.
Just as manufacturers are required by law to print on their packaging if food product is processed with the same machinery as peanuts, yes even if the product is a snickers bar, I imagine that restaurants which serve tofu products are require to inform customers if their food might contain soy.
But knowing the way some vegans can be; some, not all. I wouldn't be shocked if there's a big asterisk and then the smallest type they can print. *
*Because why should they provide you with clear information yeah?
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I wouldn't be shocked if they pulled this stunt again
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If I ever had to give up beef for whatever reason and I couldn't stomach eating any beef substitute, I'd most likely switch to chicken.
Gimmie a nice grilled chicken breast fillet, melted swiss (or pepperjack) cheese, lettuce, maybe bacon, possibly tomato (but not sure), and maybe some sauce (BBQ perhaps?).
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They already sell fake fish at McDonald's the last time I worked there they don't throw anything away like the hamburgers left in the trays for hours and when I tried to toss out the way overdue burgers I almost got fired they cut corners and theyre trying to make everything via vending machine
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At least at Kobuk's Kafe & Koffee House, we serve our sandwiches with only fresh meats. No artificial flavors or other products. No meat substitutes at all!
Though for vegetarian eaters, we do offer pita pocket sandwiches stuffed with your choice of fillings such as, but not limited to: mushrooms, onions, tomatos, spinach, regular lettuce, romaine lettuce, bean sprouts, carrots, diced red & green pepper, broccoli, sliced cucumber, etc.
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At least at Kobuk's Kafe & Koffee House, we serve our sandwiches with only fresh meats. No artificial flavors or other products. No meat substitutes at all!
Though for vegetarian eaters, we do offer pita pocket sandwiches stuffed with your choice of fillings such as, but not limited to: mushrooms, onions, tomatos, spinach, regular lettuce, romaine lettuce, bean sprouts, carrots, diced red & green pepper, broccoli, sliced cucumber, etc.
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Here is something else to think about along this thread....I know we are talking about meatless meat (soy/veggie, etc), but what about wood pulp in food as a filler? A bit off topic perhaps with this thread, but that is pretty meatless also. And disgusting.
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I hope wood is not used as filler.
Is that illegal?!
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Here is something else to think about along this thread....I know we are talking about meatless meat (soy/veggie, etc), but what about wood pulp in food as a filler? A bit off topic perhaps with this thread, but that is pretty meatless also. And disgusting.
I hope wood is not used as filler.
Is that illegal?!
Isn't wood actually a plant? Made up of lots and lots of cellulouse fibres?
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Oh, and here's some other articles worth reading.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/health/ipcc-report-food-security-climate-scn/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/health/plant-based-diet-heart-disease-study/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/health/plant-fake-meat-burgers-good-for-you-or-not/index.html
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I hope wood is not used as filler.
Is that illegal?!
Don't worry, it's been chemically treated to bear no resemblance to the original plant matter. Check your ingredients lists for E-numbers 460 through 469.
And disgusting.
Having once eaten a spoonful of pure methyl cellulose (E461) on a dare, I can confirm that it is... not very tasty. (Although the same can be said for most pure substances found in food.)
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Yesterday I tried that colieflower crust pizza it needs work it was too mushy for my liking but it would be good for folks missing teeth