A new low for Trump.

[Old Rabbit]

Seems people feel the choice from president is the least of two evils.

It is likely the Clintons have feathered their own nest while in politics, but
they have helped many people. Especially minorities and the disadvantaged.

Trump on the other hand is only concered about making money. It's very likely
running for president is only to make more money. He doesn't care for others.
There isn't anything wrong with making money, but not when you make through
cheating others. He claims to  care for others sounds rather hollow after finding
out the following.
 

During one of his ralleys january of this year. He hired kids to sing and dance to his
praise.  He promised to pay all their expenses. Let them sell T-shirts and other things
to raise money while there.

Well it turnes out he lied to them. Not only did he not pay their expenses, he didn't
let them selll their stuff.  His guards made them leave their stuff outside ungaurded
where it was stolen.

So they are now having to sue Trump for their losses.. I imagine if this gets on the national
news he will claim it was all a mistake. For now though he doesn't care or has cared over the
last several months.

A person that takes advantage of people especially kids should be run out of town instead of
being elected for president. 


Here is a link to the story.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/floridas-singing-freedom-kids-sue-trump-for-stiffing-them-for-rally-appearances/

[Chipper Blu-wolf]

Yup, as I've said many times, he does stuff that does not strike me as presidential or worthy as being an office holder.  This doesn't help his image in my point of view of him anyway.

[cause the rat]

Now what i want to know is fox news network calling this out. Children singing someones praises? They flipped out when a grade school class sang a song about Obama.

[GrayWolf448]

didnt hear about this but it does sound horrible. i still prefer trump over hillary though (even though he does some annoying/immoral things still better than hillary, hopefully there will be someone new/better after him)

though it is a good lesson for those kids. dont trust anyone even if it's the president/soon to be president. too many people are driven completely by their own interests, so its best to mostly keep to your self.

[Old Rabbit]

Trump went to Flint Michigan most likely for a photo op, but he claimed the problem wiould
have never happened if he had been president. As if that would have made a difference.

He likely was there trying to prove he cares about minorities, but when he went to a church
supposedly to show his support for them he tried to blaim Clinton and was immediatly told
to stop by the preacher. Not because they like Clinton better, but because he wasn't there
to talk about her. In his case one might say he was trying to bare false witness against another.
If I remember right that would be breaking one of the 10 commandments. In a church of
all places.

Besides those poor people need clean water, not some politician getting in their way instead
of helping.

That was yesterday and today he is being disrespectful to the preacher for not letting him
use their pulpit to make a political speech against Clinton.

[Old Rabbit]

To be honest I didn't think Trump could go any lower, but this last
week he made a point  of talking about a Miss Universe from years ago. and
how fat she got.

He has little respect for women in general. Considers them as commodities.
Is she fat? is she pretty? I heard he has had women fired because they didn't
look good enough for one of his businesses.

I didn't think I would need to post something about Trump in the adult section,
but now we find he was in a Soft Porn Video. So I can't post a link to that here.
Does he do this often?  He talks about Bill Clinton being unfathful. He has had
3 marrages I guess his other 2 wives weren't pretty enough for him.
He even publicly talks about womens body parts, and their value to men. 

Yes I saw a still of the video of Trump with a nude woman on MSNBC. I doubt if
they could have shown it on network tv.. You suppose this is a good example
for kids across the country? If you want to find it do a net search.

I have heard bad people compare others to themselves. Perhaps
that's why Trump calls H Clinton "crooked".

[Kobuk]

I'm really not surprised by anything that Trump does anymore. The guy is a jerk. A loser. Totally pathetic. A perpetual and habitual liar.      And I sure as hell hope he NEVER becomes President of the United States.  Trump is a fool if he thinks that he can become President. And his supporters are also fools for believing in him and being brainwashed by his propoganda. 

[cause the rat]

What really surprises me is people thinking he's a fair business man. Like he's not going to treat them like he did those fellow Americans.

[Old Rabbit]

The other day Trump managed another low. He claims to be all for our military.

Then he says the soldiers that come home with mental problems are weak. He says
if they were stronger they could deal with the terrors of war.

How uninformed can one man be.  Even as a layman I know that mental problems
have nothing to do with strength of will.. People like those soldiers need our praise
and help, not to be run down by calling them weak.

Perhaps Trump didn't mean to be cruel, but he should learn the facts before speaking.

[GrayWolf448]

The other day Trump managed another low. He claims to be all for our military.

Then he says the soldiers that come home with mental problems are weak. He says
if they were stronger they could deal with the terrors of war.

How uninformed can one man be.  Even as a layman I know that mental problems
have nothing to do with strength of will.. People like those soldiers need our praise
and help, not to be run down by calling them weak.

Perhaps Trump didn't mean to be cruel, but he should learn the facts before speaking.

i remember a post that said the media took out a lot of context, but i dont know where that post is atm. but when trump said that im pretty sure he meant it in a way as they arent strong enough to get out of war untouched by the effects of it.

im not an expert of it but ptsd does require some strength on the individuals side. from what i understand most the severe cases of ptsd are likely from soldiers having people killed/injured right next to them, or seeing lots of death/injury on the enemy's side. in the injured/killed soldiers case you need strength to get over the shock of losing a friend/seeing someone killed, in the death/injury on the enemy's side case you need strength to realize that there wasnt much else that you could have done, and that that person would have likely killed you or anyone else if you didnt take that chance.

edit: just found the post and apparently trump didnt even call/use the word weak. this is a quote i found which i believe is what he said
"when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it. but a lot of people cant handle it. and they see horror stories. they see events that you couldnt see in a movie, nobody would believe it."

i dont know what exactly he means by "maybe a lot of folks in this room have seen many times over" but he didnt even say weak, or imply that they are weak in a negative way. he said that they cant handle it, which in my opinion isnt hostile or insulting at all.

[Old Rabbit]

edit: just found the post and apparently trump didnt even call/use the word weak. this is a quote i found which i believe is what he said
"when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it. but a lot of people cant handle it. and they see horror stories. they see events that you couldnt see in a movie, nobody would believe it."

i dont know what exactly he means by "maybe a lot of folks in this room have seen many times over" but he didnt even say weak, or imply that they are weak in a negative way. he said that they cant handle it, which in my opinion isnt hostile or insulting at all.

Personally I feel if one refiers to one group as Stronger than the other. It emplies
the one who isn't strong must be weaker even if they don't say it directly.

People with mental illness shouldn't be labeled anyway. Even if it wasn't meant to
be hostile. Too many people use labels for people especially if they don't understand
them. I have a friend who fears answering his own door, due to  the horrors of
war, and he sure isn't weak. Not even a little bit.

Trump has a habit of using labels for people, Perhaps it's because being rich everyone
around him is hired help and can't complain for fiear of being fired.  It's rather sad to 
see someone have to buy all their friends or companions.

[Holt5]

I'm pretty sure it did make the news - I don't remember where I heard it, maybe it was during the debate, but somebody mentioned it to him, and he basically said something along the lines of, "Well, I wouldn't intentionally cheat anyone that fulfilled their end of a bargain."

Seems people feel the choice from president is the least of two evils.

It is likely the Clintons have feathered their own nest while in politics, but
they have helped many people. Especially minorities and the disadvantaged.

Trump on the other hand is only concered about making money. It's very likely
running for president is only to make more money. He doesn't care for others.
There isn't anything wrong with making money, but not when you make through
cheating others. He claims to  care for others sounds rather hollow after finding
out the following.
 

During one of his ralleys january of this year. He hired kids to sing and dance to his
praise.  He promised to pay all their expenses. Let them sell T-shirts and other things
to raise money while there.

Well it turnes out he lied to them. Not only did he not pay their expenses, he didn't
let them selll their stuff.  His guards made them leave their stuff outside ungaurded
where it was stolen.

So they are now having to sue Trump for their losses.. I imagine if this gets on the national
news he will claim it was all a mistake. For now though he doesn't care or has cared over the
last several months.

A person that takes advantage of people especially kids should be run out of town instead of
being elected for president. 


Here is a link to the story.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/floridas-singing-freedom-kids-sue-trump-for-stiffing-them-for-rally-appearances/

[Old Rabbit]

Trump watches the cable news channels. I first saw the story about his campain not
paying those dancers on MSNBC.. and they have heard from people around Trump
he watches MSNBC quite often, especially the time slot I saw the story on.

I suppose he could have missed it, but you would think by the time his campain was
served with the papers for a law suit he would have known about it. Goes to show
you he doesn't have people around him that care much for others or Trump
for that matter. .

[Old Rabbit]

I think the story speaks for it's self. I am sure many women would find Trumps
sexual aggression an eye opener.   He apologizes sort of, but is it enough?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-wapo-229299

[GrayWolf448]

in reference to what trump says about women, i dont see it as much of an issue. hell iv heard/seen worse stuff at school. so what if he's offensive, as long as he doesnt break anything/breaks less than anyone else im fine with him.

[cause the rat]

Trumps apology. Not only did it take twelve hours but he looked like an eight year old being forced. Ever hear a kid being forced to apologize?

" I'm sorry. But they did....."

The truth is Trump didn't have to apologize. To most of his supporters he can do no wrong.

Trump has degraded women derring his entire run for president. He also stiffed little girls out of payment. What you hear in school is a lot different than what's expected out of real adults. There is a reason why republican are withdrawing their support for this guy. Some even asking him to step down. They can no longer sugar coat this pathological lier. Their jobs are at stake and they know it. What's even more pathetic is the only real support I hear for this guy is by republican who are no longer in office.

Trump is the result of a disease that has destroyed America.  America died one lie at a time.

[Old Rabbit]

if Trump was a high school teenager or the guy down the street we might overlook this, but do we
want someone for president who jokes about sexual assult, and implies it's okay? I have been
around alot of people in my life, but it's been very rare to hear someone talk about women the
way Trump does. It usually happens when people get half drunk at a party.

I am sure many men talk about sexuality when alone with friends, but in most cases it's just
talk, but with the rich due to the free hand many had growing up. They tend to think they
can buy or do anything with fame and or money.

Actually I think the country would be shocked if they really knew the sexual habits of some of
their leaders in government. Look at what President Clinton did. He like some other people of
influence have, and do take advantage of women, and think it's okay.

That doesn't mean it's okay to be for someone who is obviously against womens rights of
body or ideals because others are that way. We should want someone better  than that.

There are others running for president if you can't vote for Clinton. Vote to change Congress
and the Senate if you really want to see government change.