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Title: Fur Trek!
Post by: firefox_b on January 08, 2004, 12:11:54 pm
I suspect that a fair percentage of furs are also Star Trek fans.  Are you?  If so, of all or which of the series?  Who's your favorite Captain? -- Warp speed, now!!!    :)
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Post by: Rohein on January 08, 2004, 01:03:57 pm
Star Trek is great. My favorite was Next Generation (and my favorite captain was of course Picard). I hate Enterprise though, and I hate Archer.
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Post by: Lexington the wolf on January 08, 2004, 01:12:50 pm
My whole family are trekkies.
I own most of TOS
A few TNG
And a coulpe random VOY and DS9, episodes.

I like all the series.
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Post by: beyond the darkness on January 08, 2004, 01:36:38 pm
Well, Kirk was my fav captain, TNG Was probably my fave series but Voyager is a close second!
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Post by: Darius Greywind on January 08, 2004, 01:52:37 pm
TOS and TNG are the best series, overall. DS9 suffered from 'angry bitter man' syndrome, since Avery Brooks didnt really want to do Star Trek in the first place. And Voyager, well, had awful characters and worse scripts. The spiffy special effects didnt completely cover that up. As far as I'm concerned, 'Enterprise' isnt really Star Trek at all. Its too far from the original vision to really make any sense at all.
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Post by: Poet on January 08, 2004, 02:17:56 pm
I can't pick a favorite captain or series...I think, if someone put a gun to my head, DS9 would be my favorite series, and Picard my favorite captain.
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Post by: Draska on January 08, 2004, 02:22:00 pm
Voyager all the way!  Janeway i the best captain, hands down.  She's got more hair than Picard  :p
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Post by: firefox_b on January 08, 2004, 02:24:14 pm
I agree that TOS and TNG were the best series; I could never get into DS9 or Sisko, either.  Voyager had problems, but Seven of Nine alone was worth the price of admission, Rrrrr!  She could assimilate me anyday!  Enterprise has its moments, and the jury is still out on that one.  

As for captains, Kirk is my favorite.  He would try to reason for just so long, and then would haul off and slug the guy!  William Shatner has written some books bringing Kirk back from the dead with Borg technology; he also destroys the Borg home planet.  If he were a fur, Kirk would be a fox... :)
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Post by: beyond the darkness on January 08, 2004, 02:31:28 pm
Ok then, what about the other captains? I think Sisko would be a bear.
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Post by: Rohein on January 08, 2004, 02:39:05 pm
I think Picard would have been a wolf. I think it fits him well.
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Post by: Poet on January 08, 2004, 02:41:18 pm
I know I can't be the only person who enjoyed looking at Kes more than Seven on Voyager.
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Post by: Draska on January 08, 2004, 02:52:51 pm
But what woudl Janeway have been?
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Post by: Rohein on January 08, 2004, 02:53:48 pm
Some kind of cat, I think. Maybe a leopard.
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Post by: TheIronMaiden on January 08, 2004, 04:19:48 pm
I watch Star Trek: The Next Generation on Spike T.V. once everyday. I'm not a huge Star Trek fan, though. TNG is the only series I will watch.
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Post by: Jalex Darnco on January 08, 2004, 06:02:01 pm
I used to be a trekkie, till Enterprise came out. I got angered by many of the changes, twists, and inaccuracies that they had made. Then Seeing all the loop holes in the other episodes/seasons/series. I gave it up. It had gotten so stupid, and they couldn't stay with their own plots, and inventions.

Mef, Star Trek became rather poopy to me.
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Post by: DarkDancer on January 08, 2004, 07:26:43 pm
I enjoy watching both Kes and Seven, just in different ways... ;)
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Post by: on January 08, 2004, 07:32:01 pm
Though I often consider Trekkies to be close associates of furries, but I am definitely not a fan of the series itself.  It just doesn't seem possible that humanity could restrict which sentinent lifeforms they establish relations with so they only have to deal with races that breathe oxygen and look like humans with pointy ears or large foreheads. :blush:
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Post by: Ulario on January 09, 2004, 08:31:59 am
Star Trek isn't my thing... But I loooooove Star Wars!  :)
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Post by: Benji Skunk on January 09, 2004, 10:43:36 am
I'm not really into Star Trek.  Too talky for my liking.
SG1 on the other paw....  :cool:




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Post by: Azron on January 09, 2004, 11:09:10 am
I really can't stand it I'm afraid (though I have heard a very funky version of the theme tune  :D ). I've never really worked out exactly why though, might be because the sci-fi I watch tends to be sci-fi-comedy *is reminded of HHGTTG*

Brain the size of a planet...
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Post by: on January 09, 2004, 12:26:57 pm
hey speaking of star trekkin, this furry sim/Role plays in a star trek simulation in kdfs.net
irc server  irc.kdfs.net/ or try ./server irc. klinzhai.kdfs.net
its fun im on alot of simulations i even Co one called
#USS-Thunderchild, its really fun i like it and you meet people on there and make good friends on the side.
the website is http://www.ucip.org :D
Tell them Deanna sent you :)
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Post by: Kamui on January 09, 2004, 01:30:41 pm
I'm a trekkie my favorite series was Voyager, though my favorite captain was definatley Picard by far. Stargate; SG1 is also a good series though.
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Post by: Draska on January 09, 2004, 02:01:55 pm
SG1 is awesome.  Unfortunately, lacking cable, I have to wait 'till 2 AM to see it on my local channel   :dead:
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Post by: Choky on January 09, 2004, 03:48:12 pm
Geeks J/K :)
*Runs away*
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Post by: Lobar on January 09, 2004, 06:47:37 pm
My dad's a huge Trekkie, and I watch it with him pretty often.  He prefers the original series, but I like TNG better.

Reasons why I like TNG better than the original series:

* In the original series, the plots tended to be pretty far-fetched without even attempting to make a credible explanation for things.  Just HOW did this time-traveling portal wind up on this uninhabited planet in the middle of nowhere?
* Picard would never reduce himself to shooting an alien with a hollow log.
* The original series doesn't have Data.  Everyone loves Data.
* In TNG, the consoles on the bridge of the Enterprise-D all look like they do something.  Just what the hell does that Spirograph-looking thing do?  Or any of the other flashy/blinky/spinny things on the bridge of the original Enterprise, for that matter.
* Does EVERYONE that wears a red shirt have to die?

Maybe I'm just nitpicky, but some things just bug me a little.  I still like the original series, but I just like TNG a lot more.

And Picard is my favorite captain.  I like all the TNG crew more than their original series counterparts.
Except Scotty.  Geordi's cool, but Scotty beats everyone. ;)

And I'm NOT a Star Trek nerd, I'm just opinionated. :p
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Post by: Katra on January 09, 2004, 06:55:26 pm
Quote (Draska @ Jan. 09 2004, 2:01 pm)
SG1 is awesome.  Unfortunately, lacking cable, I have to wait 'till 2 AM to see it on my local channel   :dead:

That's what VCRs were invented for. :)  (:
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Post by: Kobuk on January 09, 2004, 07:40:08 pm
I really like Star Trek a lot and have been a fan since STNG came out. I've taped and collected every episode that I can get my paws on for every series, including Enterprise.

My favorite captain would have to be Picard.  :)

About the only thing I can't stand with all the series is that the crew's are almost always meeting humanoid races that look just like humans except with slight changes to the ears, nose, or some other facial feature. I guess the producers and makeup dept. didn't want to spend the big bucks to bring about more creatures with fangs, tentacles, etc., etc., etc. From what I've noticed (and I could be wrong), 70% of the species the the crews meet are human looking.

However, there is some good news. There are some furs on Star Trek if you look hard enough. Take for example the Selay and the Antican species from the STNG episode, "Lonely Among Us". And if you look hard enough in the Star Trek IV movie during the Federation Council scenes, you will see a cat-like species (with dark brown fur and wearing a Starfleet uniform) sitting on the left side of the council chambers. I think the name of this species are the Caitians, but I'm not sure.

If anybody else knows of any furry species on Star Trek, feel free to chime in.  :)
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Post by: Firebreath on January 09, 2004, 10:25:38 pm
I really like Enterprise, personally.
Sure, some plots are rather... stretched, and that whole "polarize the hull plating" thing really bugs me (I mean, he's afraid that the ship will get a sunburn or something?!;), but I really think that it's what it should have been. "First humans in deep space exploration". I mean, they SWEAR! XD
Not your usual "we are holier than thou" stuff. They are humans, whereas you could have put Data instead of Picard, and it wouldn't have made one bit of difference in 95% of the TNG episodes. That whole "Hmmm... They are kicking our butts to next eon, but let's try to reason with them first." thing really got bad and fast. The only time they didn't do that was with the Borg (finally SOME sense...).

Otherwise, TOS was cool.
William... Shatner... Was really... Da man... for the... show.
Heehee

Anyhow, I'm not really into ST anymore tho. Used to be a huge fan, but now, time restrictions in my life make it hard to follow it... Oh well...
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Post by: Bear Paw on January 10, 2004, 08:31:17 pm
Watched all of the series so far though not as good as B5 they are woth while television. Like the TNG however likes the bad guys better than the good uns. Give me the Borg Datas twin and of course Q not bad but still the dam finest character  oh and as Captains go will say Jainway (if its spelt like that which I doubt)
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Post by: Zoonar on January 11, 2004, 07:15:59 am
I love to watch any Star Trek series. I loved Voyager because it was the technobabble series and I love technobabble.

My fave captain would be Picard (There.....are.....four.......lights!;)

The best film I think would be Star Trek VI : The Undiscovered Country

I like Enterprise as well. I think it started off slow but it has picked up a lot. There have been some very funny episodes and I love humour. My funniest episode would have to be A Night In Sickbay - 2x05.
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Post by: sniffswind on January 11, 2004, 08:28:08 am
hard core trekkie...enough to look specifically for the Klingon™ dictonayies (which I have).  i also have a zillion models, 50-60 novels...of os DERIVIATION ( i grew up on the Orig Movies).  I wrote a crossover story with WTA for next g...I've seriously considered trek cons...I even bought the parody movie...Galaxy quest.

personally, I think Avery Brooks added something MISSING to Trek...as much as kate Mulgrew's Janeway did.  tough cynical characters, good situations, and "jiggle intrest" a la 7 of 9.  Gene kind of Over Cerebraled Next G.

as for "enterprise"...don't forget, this is the PREQUAL to OS.  I only got to see one episode...about when some of the vulcans crashlanded in the northwest in '57...and had to adopt to life here.  damn, that was a good story

as for B5?  this series, as far as I'm concerned, was Harlan Ellison's revenge on Gene Roddenberry for mucking about with his script for "city on the edge of forever", and then lying his teeth off about it till he died :P  damn well written revenge, too.  hehe :d
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Post by: on January 11, 2004, 08:47:26 am
I'm not into star trek. I'm more into the other star (word) myself, ut as this is a trekki place, I won't say it  ;)
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Post by: Kobuk on January 11, 2004, 09:28:14 am
You mean Star Wars? Right, Raef? *looks around to see if furs with torches are coming after him*  :.
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Post by: Benjamin on January 11, 2004, 11:09:08 am
I've enjoyed some of the series, but never really followed it all that strongly. I've been to cons that include Trek tracks in them, and I certainly wouldn't call myself a Trekkie. ;)
 
Benjamin
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Post by: Ulario on January 11, 2004, 01:11:50 pm
Star Wars Rawks!  I love it much more then Star Trek.

**prepares to dodge the rocks that other furs are probably going to throw at her**  :D :D :D
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Post by: Lobar on January 11, 2004, 03:23:46 pm
Quote (Ulario @ Jan. 11 2004, 12:11 pm)
Star Wars Rawks!  I love it much more then Star Trek.

**prepares to dodge the rocks that other furs are probably going to throw at her**  :D :D :D

Naw, the rocks are for the ones that don't know the difference between the two. :p

"Star Trek? Isn't that that weird movie with the light-swords and that big ape guy and--*THWACK*"
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Post by: Kobuk on January 11, 2004, 04:26:23 pm
I agree with you, Ulario. Star Wars does rock! Except for Jar Jar Binks, of course. And maybe those furball Ewoks. Why George Lucas had to put them in, I'll never know and maybe I don't want to.  :p
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Post by: OblivionWolf on January 11, 2004, 05:53:03 pm
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And maybe those furball Ewoks.


But...the ewoks! I love the ewoks!  :p  Yeah...right. I couldnt agree with you more.. :D
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Post by: Ursan on January 11, 2004, 05:55:24 pm
The last episode of voyager (with the shields stolen right out of batman) was kinda cool.

Though I watch it if i know its on I'm hardly a major fan. TOS was a little too cheesy, TNG was always trying way too hard to be politically correct. Enterprise is weak and Scot Bakula is a great actor but was the worst possible choice for Archer.

Think DS9 was my favourite!
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Post by: Cesarin on January 11, 2004, 10:17:39 pm
Quote (Firebreath @ Jan. 09 2004, 9:25 pm)
I really like Enterprise, personally.
Sure, some plots are rather... stretched, and that whole "polarize the hull plating" thing really bugs me (I mean, he's afraid that the ship will get a sunburn or something?!;), but I really think that it's what it should have been. "First humans in deep space exploration". I mean, they SWEAR! XD
Not your usual "we are holier than thou" stuff. They are humans, whereas you could have put Data instead of Picard, and it wouldn't have made one bit of difference in 95% of the TNG episodes. That whole "Hmmm... They are kicking our butts to next eon, but let's try to reason with them first." thing really got bad and fast. The only time they didn't do that was with the Borg (finally SOME sense...).

Otherwise, TOS was cool.
William... Shatner... Was really... Da man... for the... show.
Heehee

Anyhow, I'm not really into ST anymore tho. Used to be a huge fan, but now, time restrictions in my life make it hard to follow it... Oh well...

polarizing could be the first plasma shields using magnetic devices.
its like you put XEON or some plasma gas in the midle of 2 magnetic camps
one positive and one negativ
ethe atraction of the magnetic camps presses the plasma to convert it in almost-solid


or maybe to keep the metal hull thied to itself after the blast
i mean you get hit by a bomb, after the wave, the decompresion would hurt a lot a spaceship
thats why "polarize" would keep the hull pieces togueter
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Post by: Ulario on January 11, 2004, 10:48:10 pm
Quote (Sno-Pak @ Jan. 11 2004, 4:26 pm)
I agree with you, Ulario. Star Wars does rock! Except for Jar Jar Binks, of course. And maybe those furball Ewoks. Why George Lucas had to put them in, I'll never know and maybe I don't want to.  :p

I don't think I know anyone who actually likes Jar Jar... In my opinion, he ruined episode 1 by turning it into a kid's movie.  What's really interisting is to look through the Star Wars Wildlife book if you have the chance.

I've been totally obsessed with Knights of the Old Republic for the past month.  I spent my entire Winter Break playing it.  :D  Right now I'm actually considering doing some KOTOR fan art.

I think I said this somewhere on my forum somewhere ... but Carth Onasi is extremely sexy.  I almost envy my female character 'cuz she ended up with him in the end.  (Don't Tell my mate I said that :D :D :D)




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Post by: Kobuk on January 12, 2004, 12:15:48 am
I don't have the Star Wars Wildlife book, but I have seen it in a few bookstores. I'm mostly a techie that enjoys reading about the spacecraft and other technological stuff. As for Star Trek, yeah same thing. I like reading about all the cool starships. The USS Prometheus is my favorite.  :cool:
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Post by: Rohein on January 12, 2004, 12:24:08 am
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In my opinion, he ruined episode 1 by turning it into a kid's movie.


There were a LOT of things that ruined episode one.
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Post by: Ulario on January 12, 2004, 06:45:02 am
Quote (Rohein @ Jan. 12 2004, 12:24 am)
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In my opinion, he ruined episode 1 by turning it into a kid's movie.


There were a LOT of things that ruined episode one.

True.  But JarJar especially did.  The thing that ticked me off the most is the fact that the gunguns had the potential of being a really cool species, but for some reason, George Lucas likes to make the characters in all of his movies meet the stupid species all the time (the exception being those cool aliens who were doing the Jango Fett clones in episode 2).

Episode 2 was a lot better because you got to see Yoda open up a little green can of whoop arse.  My mate went to see that movie about 5 times in the theatre just to see that one scene.  He loves Yoda, was even thinking about getting a Yoda tattoo on his arm.
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Post by: Skunki on January 12, 2004, 03:22:11 pm
i like some of the movies, but i like anything that is interesting. so i wouldn't really call myself a trekkie. now star wars is another matter. star wars is one of my favorite scifi film series.
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Post by: DarkDancer on January 14, 2004, 08:31:03 pm
Love Star Trek, Love Star Wars. I have a person that's ane Ewok! (j/k, but there's nothing wrong with the ewoks, bold little fighters, and from what I have read, Cheewbacca was originally supposed to have been an Ewok.).

I liked Jar Jar, and let me tell you why. Admittedly, the first time I watched it, he annoyed me, not his bahaviour, just that it took me so long to figure out what he said that I had missed 5 lines of dialogue spoken after that. About half way past through the movie I started ignoring him, problem solved. Then I read about halfway through the book, and saw the movie again, I understood him perfectly, problem resolved again.

Now as to why I like him. Throught the movie, everyone gave the Jedi much respect, either in the form of awe, or of fear, and also held everything they said in high regard (except for Padmay/Amidala), but not Jar Jar, the only reason he had respect for Qui Gon, was because he had earned it (saving JarJar's life). As heralded by the line "Maxi big dis force!" said with much sarcasm, anyway, that's my reason.




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Post by: Laowin on May 21, 2004, 03:59:40 am
Voyager is my favorite series, and Janeway is my favorite captain. Picard is my second favorite.
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Post by: Taren on May 21, 2004, 07:08:38 am
Die hard trekker =3 Live long and prosper.
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Post by: lordstacker on May 21, 2004, 08:21:33 am
:cool: oh yeah! im a big fan. seen almost all episodes of deep space nine, vouager. loved the the next generation.

though also a BIG sgi, and x-files fan.

then again me and my girl love renting a season of manythings per week. best this way i thikn. never have to wait for a week at a time
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Post by: Benjamin on May 21, 2004, 08:44:45 am
For anyfur that may like a Star Wars, Star Trek, and furry combination, check out http://www.furryconflict.com. ;)
 
Benjamin
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Post by: P_Z on May 21, 2004, 09:00:32 am
Star Trek aint so good. Atleast not as good as Farscape. Now, Farscape is the best sci-fi series i have EVER watched.
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Post by: Savaaha on May 21, 2004, 09:25:40 am
Even went to one Con at Santa Rosa.. met Nana Visitor, very cool and fun.
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Post by: sniffswind on May 21, 2004, 09:47:43 am
i notice that the general concensus, here is that
1.  the origonal series sucked
2. that next g was the best, if brainy
3. that DS( was to much about being pissy
4. that voyager was half decent
5. that Enterprise sucks even worse than TOS
6. that Jar Jar (bliped) up TPM

youve got a point about Yoda "opening up a little green can of whup-a**" i thought it was about time.  personally, I think George was paying attention, tho, about Jar Jar...or why would he have written in AOC that HE was the wone that started Palpatine on the path to the Empire?

unfortunately, what you guys seem to do with these sci-fi series is take them dead seriously, and apply real time "hard fi" as the genre is put, to every little detail.  hard fi does NOT match Sci fi.  Hard Fi authors like the late Iassic Asimov laugh their *** off at sci fi because it's "fantasy".  that's the point!!  enjoy the series, don't anylize it to death...it's only entertainment after all...unlike our own bad press, because it's considered reality because it's usually in a reality show :P
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Post by: Rosalie on May 21, 2004, 10:44:16 am
Ive see lots of episodes of star trek but none have ever grabbed  my attention
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Post by: Raust Shieldra on May 21, 2004, 12:41:42 pm
TNG was alright, DS9 was awsome and I never really could get into the others.





Raust-00gryphon
Title: Fur Trek!
Post by: Taren on May 21, 2004, 02:20:03 pm
Quote (sniffswind @ May 21 2004, 9:47 am)
i notice that the general concensus, here is that
1.  the origonal series sucked

Dude, MOST trekkers agree that the original series is the best, by far, and I agree with them. Deep Space IX would be my 2nd favorite however.
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Post by: Maltarius on May 21, 2004, 02:27:18 pm
I'm a fairly big trekkie, not to mention a TOS novel is one of the things that really got my intrest in furry into a feaver pitch several years ago. I don't really have a favorite series and have only seen enterprise a few times on top of that. I'm surprized the animated series has yet to come up in this thread which had a rather underdeveloped felonid comm officer appear from time to time.  

Star wars was alright, Luke did get on my nerves some what however and the new movies are total garbage. I was and still am a fan of Boba Fett and the whole though of him being a clone did not set too well with me to be honest.

I still RP/sim whatever; both SW and ST when I can find the time to which is reletively rare, and I'm on SW:Galaxies.