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Both of them  the best Star Wars movies I've ever seen.
2 (4.5%)
Both of them are just as good as the original three.
3 (6.8%)
Episode II was great even if Episode I was crap.
4 (9.1%)
Episode I was great even if Episode II was crap.
0 (0%)
Well, neither of them is that bad....
17 (38.6%)
What was Lucas smoking?
14 (31.8%)
The Star Wars movies all suck so it makes no difference.
3 (6.8%)
What's "Star Wars" again?
1 (2.3%)

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Offline -SilentKnight-

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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2005, 05:20:05 am »
Episode 1 was so...awful.

Episode 2 was much better, but still lacked something.


I think one of the key problems is that the new ones are filled with too much CG. The old ones had a more genuine, realistic look to them with the real puppets, animatronics, and model ships.

Well, that and Anakin is a whiny brat.

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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2005, 10:21:29 am »
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Jar-Jar Binks saved that crummy movie ':p'

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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2005, 08:24:56 pm »
I didn't think they were quite as bad as some of you make these movies out to be. I'm also one of those people who doesn't actually hate Jar Jar. I haven't seen them in awhile though. Might go back and watch 'em again after reading this topic.

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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2005, 07:31:51 am »
Change the titles to "The Darth Vader Story". The whole crappy thing is now about mister "I have a trash can on my head and asthma".

I refuse to sit through them until they meet my demands to include more Jawas. I -like- Jawas. And taun tauns. And that's about it  ':p'

I want a dvd release of the unedited/unchanged last three. I'd buy that. Screw the cg and "aww it's meen 4 han 2 shoot greedo first =( let's edit!". Jawas~!

... Well, hey, things that go "tee hee!" when they explode are funny. Like in Super Star Wars. Badly programmed games, but amusing in passing.

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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2005, 09:17:54 am »
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.. Well, hey, things that go "tee hee!" when they explode are funny

rofl that made my day

but yha the episode I wasent as great as it could have bieng and it lacked some key parts..

c3po wasent really forced as he is alot diffrent then other protocal droids and it would tie in that he was made bye some one else. even if it was some bratly litte punk like anikin was.. i do agree that the anikin saved the day part was a bit anoyin.. as talented starpilots couldent do anything but some little boy could...

episode II was much better in that it portrayed much more about the jedi then the republic.. also the yoda thing was sweet '<img'> ...

cant wait to see episode III
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« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2005, 05:37:08 pm »
Am I the only one who thinks that the fight between Yoda and Dooku was, very possibly, the most ridiculous, laughable, and downright idiotic swordfight in modern cinema?  Yoda bouncing around like Happy Fun Ball on coke ':p'  God, that was awful.

And Yoda didn't even bother to take ten [expletive deleted] seconds out of his [expletive deleted] acrobatics to [expletive deleted] disable Dooku's [expletive deleted] ship to keep him the from getting the [expletive deleted] out of there like he eventually does.  Stupid he is, Yoda.  (That's the gaping logical hole I referred to upthread.)

I'll say it again, Episode I was bad but it actually had some elegaic moments in it that I'd actually pay to see again if the movie turned up at a second-run theatre somewhere.  But Episode II was a loud, wretched, almost unwatchable mess from start to finish.  Bad dialogue, a worse romance that makes Empire Strikes Back look like frickin' An Affair to Remember in comparison, stupid action scenes (the gladiatorial arena scene was the worst), horrible actors in the lead roles while competent actors languish in minor parts.

Lucas's worst crime is to make Anakin's turn to the Dark Side look like a pathetic teenage snit - oh, and in the scene where he supposedly wipes out the Tusken raiders, Christensen looks about as threatening as a boy-band reject.  (Why couldn't Lucas have gotten a young actor who can, well, act?  Christian Bale would have been my choice.  He can project a sense of menace.)  Lucas fails completely at establishing Anakin's character; why Anakin should either view Obi-Wan as a father or hate his guts is a mystery.  Lucas tells us he does these things but neglects to tell us why.  Anakin whines about his mother (blaming everything on Obi-Wan for...well, I don't know what reason, you tell me) yet there's no evidence, not one line of dialogue, to suggest that he could not have gone back to Tatooine to save her or at least visit her.  (Finally he does, just in time for her to cark it, of course.)  Oh, and he couldn't wire some money to buy her freedom?  Anakin has not one redeeming quality, not one thing going for him except his youthful looks (I don't think that Christensen is all that attractive but there's no accounting for taste).  He's a borderline psycho right from the start - and he's the centre of the movie.  Qui-Gon was the centre of Episode I (Anakin isn't really) and he's a good, well-acted character so that movie is tolerable.  But because Anakin the protagonist of Episode II and because Christensen can't act the movie is painful to watch.  As I said before, it's ugly clear down to the bone.

I'm not bothering with Episode III.  Episode II was that bad.




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« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2005, 06:18:32 pm »
As standalone movies, they were alright. Not very good, but not very bad. Yoda may not have stopped Dooku's ship, but at least he can levitate pillars >.>
Putting aside the fact that young Anakin looks like my half-cousin (son I've been told; long story, different topic), he just ruined vadar's image... Vadar is so awesome, but Anakin (both young and old) are whiny and completely void of evil jedi material. Not close to the old trilogy's standards. Still gonna watch Episode II though, just because of the trailer that showed Vadar being... vadarized...
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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2005, 12:34:56 am »
I loved the episodes 1 and 2. Heck, I'm one of the few people that actually liked Jar Jar.

Episode 3 looks like it may just be the best movie of 2005.

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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2005, 09:13:06 am »
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to suggest that he could not have gone back to Tatooine to save her or at least visit her.  (Finally he does, just in time for her to cark it, of course.)  Oh, and he couldn't wire some money to buy her freedom?

im not sure if i got teh quote thing to work but here goes...

im not sure if you have read teh rpg books or the main suppliment books for the rpg which was givin teh ok and supervised bye lucas (probly not ive only read em 2 weeks ago) but jedis dont have all the freedom you think they do to

1 suggest that he could buy his mother from guato (probly wrong but i think im close). jedi only recive an amount of credits from the counsel only to the amount that the counsel will deem fit.. everything else is provided for them.. transportation, food, lodging,ect hell the acadamy evn has its on personal mini fleet of starships.

2 to think that he could have the time or the jedi counsels wishes to go to tatootine and save or even visit his mother.
as it was 1 in hut space which is out of the republics influence and 2 teh jedi had far more important things on there hands. jedi at this era were sent all over the galaxy on diplomatic missions to try and hold the galaxy together and to make sure whole regions of space didnt turn over to teh dark side... or the galactic empire.

also jedis are taught to forsake all emotional bonds to teh familys befor hand. this was one of the reasons yoda said that annakin was to old for the training as yoda rightly feared that if something happend to anakins mother it could push any over to the dark side.

well theres my rant.. hope this fills up anything for peps that didnt know.
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« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2005, 09:33:44 pm »
there not that bad...just not as good as the first three.

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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2005, 08:40:33 am »
I hated episode 1... only because I hated JarJar.

As for episode 2, it had it's good points like the Yoda fight scene.  :P  I didn't think either of them were that bad, but no where near as good as the originals.  

I'm actually thinking about going to Ep3 dressed as one of my Star Wars Galaxies characters.




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