Americanized English

[Mooshi]

We can argue all we want how the USA isn't England (which it isn't), but you can't ignore we speak the same language. Our national language isn't a native American dialect, it's English. Of course there are different slang terms unique to different English speaking nations (Australia being the perfect example) - that isn't what this about. It's spelling. To be blunt..I find it rediculious there is "American English" and "British English" Since we speak a language native to Britian, I argue that their spelling is the correct way while Americanized English is simply wrong. Try typing proper using an Americanized set up on sites with spellcheck and it'd tell you it is spelled wrong..that's a load of rubbish. My best mate is Scottish and because of him, Americanized English started to look weird. Examples: It's "colour" not "color" - "theatre" not "threater" Opinions?

[Kobuk]

You could have continued in this thread, you know.
http://forums.furtopia.org/index.php/topic,38927.0.html

[Mooshi]

Maybe, but this thread isn't about abuses or any of that. It's more or less along the lines of debate. Some people might counter my argument and stick up for the split between American English and standard English while someone else might agree that the seperation made no sense and that there should be one English with standard English rules. It's confusing to a non English speaking person trying to learn the language if there are 2 major types of English.

[Avan]

D: IB did that to me... Now I inconsistently say colour & color, program & programme, etc, in the same writing.... gah!

Technically though, Americanized english is closer to what it originally was, considering that british english evolved as a fad of trying to speak in a fancy manner back in the 1800's

[Mooshi]

Even so, other English speaking nations version of English is closer to Britian than America. It does get annoying, doesn't it? D: Mixing different spellings and all that. Believe or not, what inspired me to create this thread was a freaking shopping advert! xD It was "Buy 3 for $3 Theater Candy!" and I was like "They spelt theatre wrong.."

[Shim]

xD It was "Buy 3 for $3 Theater Candy!" and I was like "They spelt theatre wrong.."

Along with 'spelt' not being a word used here in America  , I usually find 'theater' and 'theatre' to mean different things. I usually associate 'theater' with film, or movie, while 'theatre' is a stage, with live-acting..But that's just me.

[Mooshi]

You prefer "spelled"? ;3 Oh, check this out. It's an interesting read. http://unclutterer.com/2010/06/07/is-english-cluttered-simplified-spellin-supporters-think-so/

[Shim]

You prefer "spelled"? ;3 Oh, check this out. It's an interesting read. http://unclutterer.com/2010/06/07/is-english-cluttered-simplified-spellin-supporters-think-so/

I don't prefer "spelled", in fact, I think it sounds ridiculous, but from what I can see, my spell-checker seems to think "spelt" isn't a word  .

[Avan]

Heh, at least it's not as bad as mixing up french & english...

[Mooshi]

Your spell checker is a bit dodgy, mate. Get a new one. - Avan, yes, that would be odd. For some reason you made me think of the French Canadians. >.>

[Avan]

 
Techniclly I am half.

[Mooshi]

Lovely. So is my friend Britny. Combined, you'd make one Frenchy. :O

[Avan]

 
One canadian frenchy... lol

[Kr2i]

yea I agree there shouldn't be different spelling it makes things very confusing

[Foxpup]

I don't prefer "spelled", in fact, I think it sounds ridiculous, but from what I can see, my spell-checker seems to think "spelt" isn't a word  .

But `spelt' isn't a word, at least not in America, where irregular past tenses are apparently too much for some people to handle.

[Avan]

Oh, I also have a tendancy to simply make up words...  

Not to mention my notoriety for warping definitions...

[Mooshi]

Spelt is simply
considered "old english"
and is less used in
America.

Didn't really think about it or tried to use a more English way of spelling to be honest. Came out naturally. o.o.... Spelt is the past tense form of spell. Both Spelt and Spelled mean the same thing.

[Avan]

At this point, who cares? 
I mean, it's an evolved language; it can't get any worse, so might as well not fuss over it and just let it be. I mean, its not like its utterly uninteligable.

[killrhawk]

English isn't the only language that is different depending on where you are. French in Quebec, Canada is different then french in France. While I'm not to worried about it, I think we should get on the same page with all the other English speaking countries. I use both spelt and spelled depending on how I feel at the time.

[Mooshi]

Mhm, there are a few other languages that do the same thing as well. Just look at Chinese! However, this thread is focused on English. I should not be told by a spell checker that a word like "colour" is wrong when just about all the other English speaking countries reconize colour as being the correct way. South Africa, The UK, Australia, New Zealand and so on would be the norm. The US is color. When I was a kid, I mocked the British spellings. Especially when an English kid complained that Nintendo spelled colour wrong on the Gameboy Color. When I got older and realized the rest of the world was different, it changed my perspective and now American English looks off.

[Shabbernigdo]

as long as it can be fully understood why not just use both spellings?

its not like its gonna make a world of difference.

colour / color . who cares it still means the same thing use what ever version floats your boat.

[Mooshi]

That isn't the point. The point is that I find it silly to have 2 standard versions of English. Whether you are using a text editor or installing software, you are bound to run into "US English" and "British English"  Why not just have "English" and be on the same page as the rest of the English speaking nations? May as well have Americans say "I speak American." Makes no sense to me. :s

[Shabbernigdo]

That isn't the point. The point is that I find it silly to have 2 standard versions of English. Whether you are using a text editor or installing software, you are bound to run into "US English" and "British English"  Why not just have "English" and be on the same page as the rest of the English speaking nations? May as well have Americans say "I speak American." Makes no sense to me. :s

ive never come accrost any issues with other version of english with any programs.

every nation seems to have a twist on english to suit there nationality. if we to say we speak american english then there would be the british english / irish english / etc etc.    they all seem to have add a few own terms and such.    Its like people who tune cars they may all have hondas but they change and adjust them to suit there needs / location.
sure they could try and set english standards but who would be the ones to set the standard. Imo no one version is more correct then the next.

[Mooshi]

Well...put it this way. France, The Netherlands and Germany are all near each other.  Let's say we take one person from each of those countries and they all know how to speak French. If I were learning the language myself, I would consider the Frenchman speaking it as the proper way of speaking French. Likewise, I consider British English to be the proper form using the same reasoning. (England-English) I'm not saying we should give up unique terms, that would be wrong. (Aussie terms are the most colourful! :3) I'm saying the core of the language should be more like British English is all. Since you mentioned cars, that is another thing. Americans say "hood" and "trunk" other English countries use "bonnet" and "boot".

[TashkentFox]

When I used to watch American films as a kid I didn't know what the characters were talking about half the time. Also, the Americanised letter "Z" is irritating, it's "Zed" not "Zee".