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cause the rat:
Freedom of speech. Freedom of creativity. Freedom of self expression. These are American values. If 'righty' values differ then they are no longer American. These "lefty' values are the reason you can be a furry. "Righy" lie and falsely accuse the furry fandom. "Lefty" gives freedom. "Righty" seeks to take freedom away. "Lefty" believe that all points of view are equal. "Righty" believes their point of view is the only one.

"Lefty" = American
"Righty" = Nazi

It is very cut and dry.

Praising oppressive governments for banning books is very "righty" of you.  If there was anything in those books that wasn't appropriate they would not have been in schools to begin with. Banning them because they have different views than "righty" is wrong. Is anti-American. Cut and dry.

Simo:
This is nonsense.


--- Quote from: cause the rat on September 09, 2022, 03:00:55 pm ---
Freedom of speech. Freedom of creativity. Freedom of self expression. These are American values. If 'righty' values differ then they are no longer American. These "lefty' values are the reason you can be a furry. "Righy" lie and falsely accuse the furry fandom. "Lefty" gives freedom. "Righty" seeks to take freedom away. "Lefty" believe that all points of view are equal. "Righty" believes their point of view is the only one.

"Lefty" = American
"Righty" = Nazi

It is very cut and dry.

Praising oppressive governments for banning books is very "righty" of you.  If there was anything in those books that wasn't appropriate they would not have been in schools to begin with. Banning them because they have different views than "righty" is wrong. Is anti-American. Cut and dry.

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Let's take this one at a time.

"Freedom of speech. Freedom of creativity. Freedom of self expression".

Who is it that's destroying these freedoms? That would be Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube -- all run by far left CEOs like Zuckerberg. They are the ones doing the shadow banning, the demonitizations, and the outright banning: always of conservative opinions, never leftist.  It's leftist college boys who resort to violence to silence consrvatives such as Ben Shapiro and Ann Coulter. Political Correectness is about nothing other than suppressing freedom of speech.

" "Righy" lie and falsely accuse the furry fandom".

Evidence please? This has not been my experience. When the subject comes up, the furbashing always happens on left sites, never conservative ones.

""Lefty" gives freedom. "Righty" seeks to take freedom away"

Like bans on autoloading (misidentified as assault rifles) rifles that would deny me the freedom of purchasing an AR-15? Or "vaccine" mandates that would deny pure bloods the right to travel, go to school or work? Last time I checked, it wasn't Republicans or conservatives doing that.

""Lefty" believe that all points of view are equal"

Demonstrates just how mindless lefties really are. Phlogiston Theory is not equal to Oxidization Theory. Creationism is not equal to Evolution. Astrology is not equal to Astronomy. Flat Earth is not equal to Round Earth. All points of view are not at all equal.

""Lefty" = American
"Righty" = Nazi"

You do understand that "Nazi" is the English mispronounciation of the German acronym: NSDAP? What does NSDAP stand for? Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. What does that mean? National Socialist German Workers Party. Doesn't sound very conservative to me. However, "Nazi" is another thought stopper that means nothing more than "I don't like you".

"Praising oppressive governments for banning books is very "righty" of you"

Congratulations, you learned your Rules for Radicals: accusing the opposition of being/saying/doing what the left really is being/saying/doing/. I did no such thing and you know it.

"If there was anything in those books that wasn't appropriate they would not have been in schools to begin with".

How would they know unless there was an honest debate? There has always been differing opinions as to what is age appropriate and what is not. There have long been controversies over such books as Catcher ibn the Rye or The Learning Tree. These decisions are best left to the parents and their representatives on local school boards.

When you come down to the basics, there are only two political philosophies. One is to disperse state power as widely as possible, to place it in the hands of the people. This is what the authors of the Constitution tried to do with a system of checks and balances between the legislarture that enacts laws, an executive that enforces laws, and a judiciary that intreprets laws. It is also why the United STATES was organized as a federation of semi-autonomous states -- a fourth branch of government.

The other philosophy is to concentrate state power in a central government that becomes large and highly intrusive. This is the system you find in Communist China or North Korea. Is this really what you want?

cause the rat:
Shadow banning is a lie. Social media sites have rules. Break those rules and you get banned. Both far left and far right posters get banned for breaking rules. Shadow Banning is a lie used by extremists to make it sound like they are victims of censorship.

Evidence? So your claiming to have never heard about furries using litter boxes in schools? Or how furries use transgender bathrooms? Or do you believe these "righty" lies?

The constitution does not give you the right to buy anything. The government has now and has always had the right to regulate what weapons you can own. it is a right wing lie to say otherwise. And a favorite tactic. As soon as someone points out facts the far right scream "GUN CONTROL" It's very "righty" to hold onto a lie to prove a point.

The idea that all view points are equal does not mean all view points are right. Making an argument that a view point should be right is right wing propaganda. You have done well to prove my point.

Nazi was a far right extremist government far removed from the labor party. The labor party would have never invaded Poland. Your historical reference is flawed.  No. Nazi does not mean "I don't like you".

"Spoken like a true leftoid. Stalinist Russia,  Maoist China and all their vassal states banned books too.  I'm sure North Korea still does. So what's your point? Authoritarian regimes gotta authoritarian." Yes. You praised oppressive governments. You made it clean you believe America should also be oppressive and ban books as well.

Thank you. The rest of your post was as argument against the far right. So you claim I'm for the far right by arguing against them? How "righty" of you.

cause the rat:
Now here's an exercise you can do. You can prove to yourself that "righty" views are the same as communists. Look up old Fox New Network's programs on these topics.

"Critical thinking is a waist of time"
"Well educated people are dangerous"
"Free thinkers are dangerous"
"Thinking outside the box is dangerous"

Far right equals nazi therefor nazi equals far right. This reads like Hitler's Manifesto.

Kobuk:
Guys, you're getting off topic about my topic which is supposed to be about discussing banning books about race and/or gender/sexual orientation.  >:(

Let's get back to questions like:
Should schools and/or libraries stock these types of books? Or ban them?
Do politicians have the right to ban these types of books?
What rights do parents have or not have in what is selected at the school/library for reading material?

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