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Do you believe in magic?

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Offline Kobuk

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Does magic exist?
« on: August 28, 2019, 03:03:44 pm »
Do you believe in magic? Does magic exist? Frankly, I don't think so. Magic is simply science that hasn't been explained yet. Anything touted as magic can be explained as either telekinesis, telepathy, empathy, ESP, or some other paranormal thing.

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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2019, 11:15:59 pm »
We'll its a matter of belief and there are things in this god forsaken rock that even science can't explain and and as a wiccan I don't really mess with magic I work with plants to work on herbal medicine and learn about nature and see what it has to offer
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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2019, 12:56:27 am »
If there were real psychics Vegas would be broke. If magic  was real we wouldn't strive to have the technology we have today. There would be no reason for it.
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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2019, 03:45:31 am »
I believe in ESP and other similar "sixth sense" type of things but I think there are some things which are so rare and unique that they are often faked in the name of scams.

Take future telling for example. I believe Nostradamus had some method of seeing events to come but soothsayers, viziers, and other "fortune tellers" were by and large hacks with no genuine gifts.

I believe ghosts are real and that to see them requires some measure of extra sensory perception.

But magic? No. Magic is not real at least not in the popular depictions ala harry pottor or RPG mages.
The only kind of "magic" that I can accept is genuine and real is spells performed in wicca and even those are less magical spells and more akin to saying a prayer to god for something.
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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2019, 08:08:08 am »
I am on the bus with Kobuk here.

However, we are capable of doing some pretty amazing things without needing to cloak it in mysticism.

In the sens of telling the future, it may not be quite as hard as you might think. At least in some ways. If you are a student of history, you have a pretty good chance of being able to predict what people are going to do in the future. Myself, I'm a probabilist, that is, I weigh what I think might be the probability of things happening are. Even I have had predictive dreams which I can not be explained by probability completely. Ask me about the Alligator Soup (which contained no actual alligator.)

We are capable of doing some pretty amazing things without any special powers, if we only applied ourselves more.
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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2019, 10:44:28 pm »
I do not know if magic(k) is real.  My sister is Wicca, she does indeed pray to god/goddess for help/fortune, much as christians/hindus/etc... do. 
But...Magic?  No. I have never seen it.  Penn and Teller also say it is illusions, and they are my authority on the subject.

But... Kay and Charcoal and I may have experienced things that are ... extremely hard to explain, and are honestly, very shaking to the person who witnesses them.  Perhaps that is why we are apt to believe a little in such things as ESP etc..?

You can find some of my "ghost stories" here.  And i have others I have not shared out of fear of being called insane.
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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2019, 05:31:14 pm »
I believe in the magic that is fursuiting.  :D
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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2019, 08:38:58 am »
I agree in what Kobuk said. Lots of "magic(k)" is something that simply has not been able to be explained yet.

On the other paw....

I have seen some things that are difficult to explain. Perhaps in another 50 years science will be able to explain them, but for now, I think it is some form of magic(k) or spiritual reasoning.

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Re: Does magic exist?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 11:40:59 pm »
I hope that in this advanced technological age--in which every happenstance seems to have a scientific explanation--that one can still experience a child-like sense of wonderment  that comes with imagination and creativity. Maybe that's what draws us to the fandom.
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