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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1925 on: September 27, 2021, 01:52:15 pm »

The GOP continue to claim non white votes aren't legitimate, and shouldn't be
counted.  I have said this in the past, the GOP is working to prevent election
losses in the future. Their rich supporters fear wins by Democrats mean higher
taxes. Not only that, but loss of loop holes in the tax code that could cost them
millions in taxes they currently avoid paying.

Not only that Democrats could change laws to make it harder for the GOP to
do their dirty work. This would make it much harder to harm their opponents
politically as well. 

If Democrats don't take this attack by the GOP seriously, the
GOP just might win permanent control of the country which would allow them to
pass all kinds of crazy laws. Many would likely take rights away from the poor,
handicapped and all minorities except themselves and the rich. Yes The GOP is in
the minority, about 30% of voters. Without support from non republicans they

would have little control. It's unfortunate so many feel the need to support the GOP.
Otherwise the GOP radicals couldn't do much more than make noise.

Trump is claiming executive  privilege, but since he isn't president any more. only
president Biden can give Trump protection, and he isn't inclined to give it unless
deserved.  I am sure Trump wants to hide his activities as president, just as he
does for  almost every thing he does. Even as a private citizen. During Trump's
presidency, he has faught nearly all attempts by congress to investigate his
activities as president or the White House. I am sure he will attempt to stop the release  to congress, but will likely fail.

The GOP is being taught con artistry by Trump. Which is never tell the truth when
ever a lie can be used. Also defend authority figures, no matter how bad they are.
By  blaming  those they harm.  Now the GOP is apparently being told to not
vote to cover the national debt, claiming it should be up to the Democrats to do
because they spent the money. Well the national debt is the business of
 government, not a political party as the GOP claims. So if the debt ceiling fails to
be raised, every member of congress or the senate who fails to vote to raise the
debt should be held responsible for any trouble this causes the nation. Of course
the GOP want to blame the Democrats for any and all problems the GOP can
 create. In my  opinion this kind of politics is un American, and puts our economy and country at an unnecessary risk.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1926 on: September 27, 2021, 07:28:36 pm »
Repubs just killed the bill........which I knew they would. :(

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/27/politics/senate-debt-limit-shutdown-vote/index.html

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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1927 on: October 04, 2021, 05:09:02 pm »

 The GOP and Trump supporters all claim they are out to protect their rights. Well
that is all well and good, but others should be able to stand up for their rights
as well. If Democrats allow the GOP to gain the power to pass conservative  laws
for the purpose of holding power, this country could become an theocratic
autocracy. Many people would unfortunately support religious laws as they did in
the past to stop life styles of the LGBTQ. and many other rights by a lot of
people. Most of these people who claim they are against the LGBTQ are hypocrites, because they like many people enjoy the same things hiding behind closed doors. A practice sometimes done by the far right. Not
counting their evening visits where some secretly pay for sex.

It's so sad how the GOP punishes the poor of this country with their lies that claim
the Democrats are wanting to create a socialist society. Whet the Democrats want is a long ways from socialism. Socialism is where the government owns all businesses,and  land, along with the distribution of products and food stuffs. Much
the same as communism.

The Democrats mainly wish to maintain a balance of society, to keep a small
percentage of the rich from taking control of the economy. Capitalism and material-ism are fine,but must be controlled or a few will take advantage of those
who are unable to defend themselves against the rich.

Greed causes some people to steal and others to kill. It's why we must have laws
designed to control those who otherwise use greed to control others. Sadly it's
greed that gives people the desire to be creative, but it doesn't stop there. In the
past many successful people have let greed use their creative genius to harm
 others and still do. Requiring laws to stop these very people from ruining  the economy.

For many years now these people have slowly used the GOP to gain power so
they can control the lawmaking process for their own benefit. They chose the GOP
because the party already favored the rich over the middle class. Since many
in the upper middle class see themselves getting rich, they tend to favor laws that the rich support. There again it's greed that helps the rich gain power so they can
 take advantage of those who have no power or understand politics well enough \
to vote against those who use lies for their own benefit.

Now the GOP is claiming the Delta surge of covid19 is due to immigrants and
tourists. This is nonsense as tourists and immigrants are tested for covid19. It's
just more GOP crap to feed their supporters.  If anyone is responsible for  spreading covid19 its likely GOP supporters who refuse to get vaccinated. Sadly these people due to misinformation fail to
follow advice by CDC that would protect them and family from
covid19. I had hoped the internet would help spread facts, not
miss information , seems some people enjoy seeing others hurt.
So they spread lies online.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1928 on: October 08, 2021, 05:05:22 am »
Trump is threatening using executive order to keep the Jan 6 committee from gaining evidence against him. If he doesn't have anything to hide than why is he trying so hard to hide it? DOJ should take over. Or become part of the Jan 6 committee and work with them. It's hammer time for Trump.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1929 on: October 08, 2021, 04:22:15 pm »
I really wish somebody would just arrest Trump and cart him off to jail. The sooner it's done, the better.
I'm sick and tired of Trump getting away with just about everything and not being held accountable for his actions. People who support him need to stop enabling him.  >:(

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« Reply #1930 on: October 10, 2021, 01:00:21 pm »

Violence  due to handguns is increasing as the GOP is allowing people to carry
them without being licensed. I know many people feel they should have a right to
carry them, but some people can't keep their anger under control, and have no
business with a handgun at the ready. The process of licensing usually can
determine who should not carry one, and goes a long ways in preventing someone
from using a handgun while
angry.

The GOP threat to not raise the national debt, trying to  harm the Democrats will
harm the country much more, and not only that it will damage the economy and the
millions who depend on retirement. Not only social security, but salaries for our
armed forces and their retirement and payments for the equipment they depend on.

It appears a drop in the stock market got the GOP's attention, because suddenly
they have come up with a deal to extend the debt ceiling till early December.
Just shows who is controlling the GOP. Because the stock market is at the heart of
the richest people, and they tell the GOP what to do.

The GOP's attack on abortion is relay the far right playing up to the evangelicals,
because they don't really have any other policy people really care about enough to get republicans out to vote in the numbers the far right needs to win.

 If Americans let the GOP's fear of losing  power destroy our democracy to gain one party rule.
Individual rights will be lost, because the far right will take them
away from those they hate.

If the American people fail to kick the far right out of the GOP, this country is in
trouble. Not only that, without a strong American democracy the world is headed
for another world war. A war that could end life on our planet. At  least ending life
for the vast majority of mankind.

It's
been the strength of NATO and the U S that have likely convinced countries
under the control of autocrats from getting the idea they could take over neighboring countries with
impunity.

 In the past wars generally started with the invasion by an aggressive
neighbor. One thing would lead to another and the whole region
could find it's self at war. Before nuclear weapons wars generally only
affected small areas of the planet, but could easily affect the  entire world now.

One man rule may be easier, but never good for a country. One man just isn't
smart enough, and usually allows greed to control his decisions, and greed is
never good for a leader, much less the country he rules.


Trump's failing was due to greed, and those who follow him will likely wish they

never knew him in the end. Because if Trump is able to run for president again,
and wins, he plans to use that power to punish those who didn't help him stay in
office. Even if he fails to get the votes, he will try to use political  power to
regain the power his sick mind desires.

Trump's control of his followers is strange in that they claim they don't trust
government, yet they are willing to trust Trump. A man who lies every time he
opens his mouth. The big reason he wants to hide what he does is so he can
lie about it. If the Democrats fail to get tough with the GOP and Trump, this country
is in real trouble, because the  GOP is learning Trump's dirty tricks, and is more
than willing to use them.




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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1931 on: October 17, 2021, 12:07:07 pm »


Trump's control of his followers is strange in that they claim they don't trust
government, yet they are willing to trust Trump. A man who lies every time he
opens his mouth. The big reason he wants to hide what he does is so he can
lie about it. If the Democrats fail to get tough with the GOP and Trump, this country
is in real trouble, because the  GOP is learning Trump's dirty tricks, and is more
than willing to use them.

If Trump regains the White House and control of the legislature, he will do all he
can to turn the country into an autocracy with him as it's leader. Think the military
will protect the country? Think again, because Trump will put it under the control
of his supporters first, because he now  knows it's the only way to gain real
-control of the country, and would have 4 years to pack it with support
for
him.

We should remember when Trump became president, he had little idea of what he

could do. So by the time he found out, he didn't have time to use the power to
gain full control of the military, as he likely thought he already had it. This was likely because
he had no real idea he could win, and by the time he felt he could
he didn't take the time to learn about how our government works. He spent the first
2 years trying to run the office of president just as he had his businesses he failed at. Because he
Trump just wants to be a big shot playboy and little
else. So the
great pretender just played being president, because he had little idea
how to otherwise.


The worst part is Trump is a first class con artist, and has convinced millions of
people he is good for the country, which he definitely is not due to the fact he  is
mentally ill. Sadly his followers don't want to believe this, which makes it just bat
much worse with the GOP using Trump trying to gain permanent power over the
country, to benefit the richest 5% of Americans. Leaving the rest of us to exist the
best way we can, and by the time Trump supporters realize what he and the GOP are really up to, our democracy and constitution  may be lost.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1932 on: October 22, 2021, 12:57:33 pm »

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Climate is the highest priority for the world governments to deal with. Sadly
the pretend Democrat from west Virginia is known as Joe Coal. Since The state
is a big coal producer he is pushing for the  expansion  of coal use, and as coal is
big business, the producers support senator Joe Mansion with money for his re election. Unfortunately many corporations have little interest in protection of the
climate. To those who control the operation of these polluters, money is what they care about. So they do what they can to elect those who work to help them make
more money, and let the losers  worry about the climate.

 The GOP controlled states complain that the Democrats are out to take states 
rights by telling their people they must be vaccinated against covid19. The GOP
claim their people must have the right to choose, and not be forced to be
vaccinated. as they should have a right to control what happens to their body. Yet
the very same GOP wish to take the rights of women to choose what happens to
their body from them. They claim it is to save lives, well requiring people to be
vaccinated is to save lives as well. But the GOP ignore this in hope of gaining
support to be elected again.

Trump and the GOP are working hard to convince people that the Democrats are socialists. While Democrats support social issues much more than the GOP does,
they are far from true socialists who want the government to run and own everything.


While the GOP is a big supporter of business, in the past they supported the small buisnessman. Now it seems they are more for the big corporations to the detriment
 of the environment and the little guy. I think some of us can remember when
businesses cared about those they served more than making big profits. Now I am not against making a good living, but over the years it seems big business is
are more interested in big profits than being a good neighbor, and the GOP has lost  interest in protecting the
public
from greedy corporations, in favor of big money and power.


It's time we let the GOP know that protecting the people is the job of government.
Not to help the rich get richer on the backs of the people who work hard to make
ends meet each month. It's time we make the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Not to support people like Trump who play and take, while the little people must work
hard and pay more and more.

It's sad how the far right lie to support the GOP and Trump. Their radical beliefs are bad for the
country. They want to use division, religion,  and  the GOP to gain
political power. They know they are a small minority  who would have little chance to gain

power otherwise.

These people aren't  new, they have been around since the beginning of the
nation.
 They hate anyone who is different, be it race or lifestyle. Now with the white population
soon to lose political power, their
worst fears are soon to be  realized. So they are working hard to take political power away
from the Democrats. To
the give the GOP single party control of the country. A party mostly controlled by
the white population, and the far right.

Single party control of the country  was tried in the past, and led to a civil war that
nearly divided the country. I fear history could repeat it's self if enough voters
fail to  support the Democrats over the far right controlled GOP. So time will tell
what happens to the country. Let's hope the far right fail in their effort to create an
autocracy run by Trump and the GOP.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1933 on: October 29, 2021, 01:25:31 pm »



As I have said in the past, women should decide how they are treated. But
for centuries, men continue to claim control over women, and many women continue to
let men get by with it. Sometimes I think a lot of women like the idea of
letting men control their lives. I know some women let their husbands tell them
how to vote. The problem is most GOP states are run by men, and they have little
interest in women's rights. We can see that by how long it took to give women the

vote. They virtually had to make men sleep by themselves to get it done.

In the days when Trump claimed America was great, most girls were taught by
their mothers to play dumb and helpless around men. Not allowing men to feel
superior to them, in most cases would make it very hard to find a good man that
would marry them. And in those days a single woman found it difficult to make
a
good living for themselves. I am sure most women that let men control their lives
feel it's the only way to have a nice life. Then I imagine some feel it's the proper
way for women to live. I am sure religion plays a big part in this.

I have a hunch most of Trump's supporters like the idea of having a
wife who
acts more like a slave. I am sure Trump does. it's part of his making America great
again thinking. After all he was for turning Afghanistan over to people who want
total control over women.


Colin powell past away, in spite of Trump's disgusting comments about this man, he was a
great man who returned respect to our military after the Vietnam war. A
man who helped prevent the cold war from becoming hot. This man shows us
just how disgusting Trump really is, and how bad the GOP has
become.
We must stand up against the far right control of the GOP. Other wise the work of
a  great man like Powell and other men like him will be lost.
The supporters of Trump may think he is what this country needs, but he is using
them for his own benefit, not theirs. The GOP only supports Trump to gain support
from Trump's followers. They want to use them to keep the Democrats from taking
power from the GOP, who is currently dominated by white extremest. People who
care nothing for the rights of the LGBTQ, woman, people of color,and minorities.


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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1934 on: November 05, 2021, 12:48:41 pm »


The conservative movement in our country appears determined to keep people
of color from voting in numbers that could defeat the GOP. A party that seems  to
only want whites to run our  country.

The GOP leadership want to limit the teaching of slavery and discrimination in our
nations past. I think they are afraid if our young people learn how white
extremists treated people of color after the civil war. They would lose
 future support of the far right to Democrats.

If we fail to teach our young people the history of slavery and discrimination that
existed in our countries past, It will likely be repeated. Because it's the only way
to show people just how bad slavery, and discrimination is. Sadly many people
wish to hide the facts so they can be repeated, because they don't want to
compete with people they don't like, because they are different or won't
follow their way of thinking. Not only that, but many people want  to blame people
they don't like for their  own failures.

 An example of this occurred in Tulsa Oklahoma one hundred years ago. Where
a suburb of mostly black people was attacked by white extremists. this black
community was litterer destroyed and hundreds killed. All because the blacks had
the audacity to be successful in spite of white claims that blacks are ignorant.
As bad as this was, the greater tragedy was how  it was 
covered up by so called law abiding citizens of this city.

It is a shame, but it seems down through the history of  our great country there
have always been those who hate people who are different. Either by race, culture,
religion, or lifestyle.  Sadly the GOP has decided to use these terrible people for
their own benefit. With the help of Trump, the GOP found they can gain power with
lies and false claims. To use the internet to spread conspiracies and with the help
of the far right to convince the public to vote for the GOP with claims it's for the
good of the country. In reality the good is for the GOP and it's rich supporters.

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« Reply #1935 on: November 08, 2021, 12:51:01 pm »


Many Hispanics have moved here from countries run by governments who claim
to be socialist. So they fear socialism, or anyone connected to socialist ideas. So
the GOP paints Democrats as socialists with the hope to gain votes from 
Hispanics.

Because of this Democrats must educate Hispanics the difference between
their social programs and socialism. Otherwise Democrats will lose many Hispanic

votes to the GOP.   This is why the GOP has held on to Florida, due to the GOP
claims that Democrats are socialists. If Democrats fail to educate Hispanics they
will lose other states to the GOP as well.

The GOP uses abortion, freedom to decide to get vaccinated, claims that the
Democrats are out to take your guns, along with anything including lies, that will
get voters out to the polls. If the Democrats fail to use issues that will get their
supporters out to vote, the GOP will retake both the house and senate in 2022.

Then they will make sure nothing gets done that might help the needy people of
this country. Not only that, they will stop any hearings that might hurt the GOP or
 Trump. Because the GOP and Trump want to cover up the truth.
 
The Democrats have passed a infrastructure bill. If they don't educate the public
about how this bill helps the nation. You can be sure the GOP will try to make it
look bad for the country. Because they know this passage makes the GOP out to
be the bad guys if they don't. Because the GOP leadership did their best to
prevent it's passage.

The GOP's big tax cut for the rich and big business is the main reason Trump
never seriously tried to get an infrastructure bill passed when he was president.
because his tax cut was more important to the GOP, big business, and him than
infrastructure for the good of the country.
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« Reply #1936 on: November 14, 2021, 12:51:52 pm »

I fear little if anything will be done to curb global warming until it's too late to
prevent coastal flooding around the world. Powerful nations have little interest in
protecting island nations and poor countries. It's all about power and money for
the rich. People who could care less if someone dies due the heat, or loses their
property to flooding.

Trump continues his attempts to hide his actions in the white house during the
January attack on the U S capital. Trump has used the courts throughout his adult
life to get what he wants, either with his money or his influence. In this case the
GOP is out to help him cover up the truth, with a host of conservative GOP judges

they appointed to do the job. If nothing else they hope to  delay any decision
until 2023, where they hope to have won back the house, and put
a stop to all investigations about the January insurrection.

Also Trump continues to mislead his supporters about the law with his attempts
to protect those who are willing to break the law to protect him. Trump made the
claim that the  stock market would crash if Biden was elected. We can see that
claim was nonsense, along with about every claim he makes. Just as his lie that
the election was stolen from him is nonsense as well.

I find it sad that the public can watch the GOP block the Democrats and still blame
the Democrats for not getting much if anything done. After all if the Democrats ideas
were so bad, why don't the GOP just let them make a big mess. No,
because they know allowing the Democrats to pass these aid and  tax bills would set
the GOP back for many years. Not only that their rich  and big business friends would  have to start
paying the taxes they should be paying.  Also the health insurance and the
pharmaceutical industry would
see losses in  big profits after
being required to charge fair prices. Also the GOP would see a big reduction in corporate donations
to their party, and we know they wouldn't want
that to happen.

It's time the GOP was punished for selling out to big corporations just to get paid
for it.  Not only that they should be punished for consorting with white supremacist.
If they are allowed to continue this dirty work, the good people  of this country will
suffer because of it. The Republican party doesn't have to play these dirty games
to hold power. All they have to  do is work for the people in stead of themselves
and the plutocrats they
support.

The last place to have plutocrats is in government. Because they think they deserve
a better deal than the rest of us.  The GOP is loaded with them, and they
are out to give themselves all the power they can. I am not against people making
a good living,but I am against plutocrats getting a better deal than the average
person from the government.

The public seems to think the government can stop inflation, but if they started
putting price controls on everything, it  could damage the economy. Besides it's
it's the public who can put a stop to inflation by a reduction  in spending.
During 2020 the economy was slowed by a big reduction in spending due to
covid19.  Then this spring we saw a big slowdown for the virus, and spending
began to surge because of pent up demand. Now with the holiday season coming,
demand is even greater. this demand is causing shortages in shipping, which in
turn is driving prices higher. A kind of inflation that only a slowdown in demand
can cure. Of course the GOP wants to put the blame on the Democrats in
stead,  for political gain, and they do little if anything to curb inflation themselves.



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« Reply #1937 on: November 19, 2021, 01:21:17 pm »

I fear if the Democrats fail to get tough with the GOP, they will lose control of
both the House and Senate in the mid term election. Because the GOP will do
what ever it takes to win next year. Not for the good of the country, but for their
own good and that of their plutocrat supporters nation wide.

Sadly it seems people look up to the rich, as if they do some of their wealth might rub off on them. Or perhaps gain some thing from them if they do them a favor.
Since the GOP is filled with plutocrats, many people vote for them with the hope
of  some gain, and many think rich people are smart. Well being rich is often due to luck more than brains, or their parentage.

When Trump ran to be president, he said he would appoint the  smartest people.
In stead he appointed a bunch of plutocrats who were mostly out to make gains
for themselves in stead of the country. It's sad but true, the rich often look out for
themselves more than anyone else. Think not, just look at history, nearly all rich
people stepped on others for their own advantage, and most of them as most rich
do, feel they deserve special treatment over the lower classes.

Trump claimed he would work harder than any other president if elected. As it
turned out he was the laziest president in history. Traveling to his Florida estate to
play golf and party every chance he got. Proving to be a playboy con artist more
than anything else. Too lazy to read, people had to put reports on video so Trump
could sit back and see and hear it on television. Wanting almost total secrecy,
he often tried to throw reports and presidential papers away. Not caring that such
 reports and papers had  to be kept by law. He felt as president he was above the
law, and often tried to brake rules and laws for his own benefit.

If it wasn't for the far right news casts, it's doubtful Trump or the GOP would do very
well at the ballot box. As is they broadcast lies supporting the GOP and Trump
virtually every day. The problem is they use wording that appeals to the
conservative crowd of people in a way that is misleading in hope they will
support the GOP over the Democrats.

Sadly republicans are generally more  politically active than Democrats. this tends
to give the GOP an advantage, even though they are in the minority. Unless
the Democrats take voting more serious the GOP could win by default. It's a
shame, but historically the GOP has little interest in those in need. They look at
them as lazy people who are a drag on the economy.
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« Reply #1938 on: December 03, 2021, 12:56:18 pm »

Personally I think we need to stop  any and all vigilantism in this country. Because
most people that involve themselves in private enforcement of the law, usually go
too far, just as these 3 men in Georgia did. Even well trained policemen and police women
allow themselves to go too far at times. We are all human   and subject to human   failure,  So law enforcement should be limited to well trained people.

As long as people see the black race as being overly aggressive  , I fear black people
will have a hard time getting  justice in this country. It will take more than a Democrat in the
White House to put laws in effect to protect the rights of people of color. Because the GOP is out
to win votes, and they see the support of people of color costing them a lot of votes by people who hate blacks and other people of color. So people of color and others who support them need to use their votes  to remove the conservative radicals from the
republican party, local state, and federal. If we
don't I fear we will soon be a one party autocracy, headed  for a possible  civil war.

As I have said in the past, I am not a fan of abortion, but the GOP seems to only be
interested  in keeping the poor from getting abortions. Women who can afford  to travel are free
to get one any time they wish, by leaving the state, or the country.
 If the GOP would punish women instead of doctors or clinics, then the law would treat all women the same , no  matter where they got one. But no, as this would cost the GOP support from a  lot of women.
When   Trump started to run for president he publicly  said women should be punished , but the GOP
told  him this would likely cost him the election, so he changed his mind about punishing women for abortions.  This alone is proof that the GOP is only against abortion to get votes from the far right and
the rich. They aren't worried about the poor, as they often don't even vote.

All this aside making abortion illegal is a mistake in my opinion. Just as laws making theft illegal doesn't
keep people from stealing, laws against abortion won't stop women who want one from getting an
abortion. They will do it themselves or pay a crook to do it for them. In fact making it illegal will
likely increase the number of abortions, because doctors and clinics won't be available to talk
women out of having one. Sadly radicals who imagine laws will stop all abortions are  unwilling
to listen to anything but their own nonsense. So with a conservative supreme court abortion
will likely be made illegal once more, and women will suffer for it. some will even die attempting it
themselves or by someone who only wants to make a buck, and the radicals or the
GOP could care less.
 
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1939 on: December 08, 2021, 12:46:56 pm »

I fear if the GOP retake the house in 2022, nothing will get done, because  they want to  win the white  house in 2024. Because they want full control of the government. If this happens it will be a 
disaster for the needy and those who depend on the government for survival. If you think there are  a
lot of homeless people now, you haven't seen anything yet. Because the GOP doesn't care
about the homeless, or the poor. They just want to lower taxes for themselves and  their rich friends.

Much of the support for the GOP is from people who only care about themselves. and no one  else. 
these are the people who don't want the government to tell them anything. To wear a mask, or to
get
 vaccinated. These are the people who claim abortion kills babies, but they don't care about the risk
child birth is to the life of a woman. Some even think a woman should give up their life
to save the life of the unborn.

People should remember that it was the feeling that the federal government had no business telling them
what to do that started the civil war. The support that the GOP is giving these radicals is very
dangerous for the country. Because it encourages GOP controlled states to do the same for
radicals in their own state. If the GOP continue using this to win elections, they could lose
control of the radical element, which could lead to nation wide violence against our
government, much as we saw last January.

The Covid19 Delta version is still the major  cause of sickness and death so far   here in the U S.
 Turns out in counties that Trump won in 2020 have 3 times the deaths for voters  for covid19 due to
their  belief in disinformation about the virus.  these same people  apparently failed to    get vaccinated.
So
 many more are getting sick and dying , and spreading the virus as well. Sadly   these people want to
blame the Democrats for letting them get  sick, when it's their own fault by listening to Trump and the
 GOP's lies.
People should care more about others than their own
inconvenience
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1940 on: December 08, 2021, 06:10:02 pm »
"Slightly" off topic, but the Christmas tree in front of Fox News HQ was lit on fire.  :o :D
Shame it wasn't Trump's Mar-a-lago Christmas tree instead. Would have been funnier.
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« Reply #1941 on: January 12, 2022, 01:05:23 pm »

A year has past since the supporters of Trump attacked  the U S capital. So far the GOP is
claiming it was just a riot that only appeared to support Trump, in spite of claims by the Democrats. As I
have said many times, Trump is a first class con artist. He knew if he claimed his loss wasn't true many of his supporters would want to believe him. Just as they did in his rallies many many times,
and still do. This claim by Trump has  divided the nation, especially since the GOP has mostly supported   this terrible lie.  A lie that could destroy our democracy, and put our country in the hands of a autocracy run by the GOP with Trump at it's head. A man who only cares about himself.


It seems the GOP want  to see more people sick from covid19.  Apparently hoping  Democrats will get
the blame. In my state, the state attorney general is threatening to bring law suits against  those requiring vaccinations or the  wearing of masks, and yes, my state is under GOP control. His big excuse is he  thinks people should have the right to decide to wear a mask or get vaccinated, even if it puts others at risk by failing to do so.

It seems the GOP is  promoting personal rights over public safety, apparently because they expect to gain votes by doing so. Putting public safety at risk for their own benefit is disgusting in my opinion, and should get them kicked out of office, But it seems a lot of people like the idea of  being able to do whatever they like, no matter who it might hurt. Well I fear this will end up destroying democracy by letting
people to disregard the rights of others for their own benefit, and I fear we could end up having another period of civil unrest  if the GOP continue
doing this to get votes.

The GOP needs to remember the last time a party used personal freedoms to win elections
 the party was lost,because most people feel public safety is more important than letting
hard nosed conservative  do whatever they like. This idea of using personal freedoms to gain votes
started with the election of Reagan in 1982, and could end up starting another civil war, as it did before.

Sadly the GOP has always been against helping the poor or the disadvantaged. Using the excuse
that these people are lazy, and mostly choose to be poor, and the country shouldn't tax hard working individuals  to help them.  Even though the GOP only has about 30% of the  population there are enough
 independents  to give the GOP wins around the country. Mostly because the GOP pretends to, or lies
 to deceive  many non republicans to get their support.

After five years  of comments about Trump and the GOP, I am calling it quits. Mainly due to
my failing vision. I may post a few comments along, but no longer on a regular basis. Besides my
comments may harm Furtopia if the public continues to grow more divisive, and it's time others
took up  the battle for the truth. I wish I could see well enough to carry on against those only interested
in power and money. I fear many white people feel threatened by how the country is changing. No
longer  can they depend on having full control of government, and religious  views. Sadly many feel
the need to use violence to prevent these changes. The trouble is violence just brings on  more violence, and gains nothing in the end. Just  as the civil war did. Gaining nothing but death and 
suffering for hundreds of thousands.

Basically it's up to voters, because if people dont vote to save our democracy it will be lost to those who
fear change. Even though these people claim they don't trust government, their support of the GOP and
Trump is handing power to those who plan to take their rights away from them in the end, and once they
have that power, they will control the military to keep  that power, and like all autocracies the people will have no  power at all. Even those who supported the GOP and Trump in the beginning.
 
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1942 on: February 03, 2022, 03:43:23 pm »
I know this isn't exactly about politics, well, sort of. If there was ever a time for a facepalm emote on Furtopia, now would be it.

I can't believe they put the guy who sought to overturn the election and spread conspiracy theories on The Masked Singer show.  :o If you think it's Trump, it's not. But if Trump appeared on the show, the best costume for him would be a baboon.  :D


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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1943 on: February 07, 2022, 11:45:51 pm »
Old Rabbit: Ever since November, 2016 you have filled 78 pages with DNC talking points and other leftist garbage. How many irretrievable hours have you spent doing this? Does Donald Trump still live rent free inside your head?

You need help with your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1944 on: February 24, 2022, 11:41:20 am »
My, my, how the shoe is on the other foot now. ;)

Republicans and Trump supporters, and even Trump himself have all called Democratic liberals as "communists/commies" because they want socialist reforms.
But now I've seen in the news where Trump and/or some of his supporters and fellow Republicans have PRAISED Russia for being strong and going into Ukraine, etc.  :o

Gee, who's the communist now?  :D  Sounds to me like Trump and anybody else who supports Russia is a traitor.  >:(

Back in the 1980's, Americans..........and Republicans.........knew who our enemy was during the Cold War. It was the Soviet Union. And it still is today even though it's now called Russia. But apparently Repubs just don't care about what is going on across the world and are still fixated on spreading election conspiracies. They obviously have their priorities screwed up. If Reagan were alive and President, he'd stand up to the Russians. Not cozying up to them the way Trump just did.

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« Reply #1945 on: February 24, 2022, 06:40:18 pm »
My, my, how the shoe is on the other foot now. ;)
What shoe? What foot? You don't see me filling a thread with post after post after post excoriating President Biden do you? I haven't written WORD ONE about Biden here at Furtopia. I also refuse to allow Biden to live rent free in my head. He'll have his Fifteen Minutes and he will be gone. Same as Trump.
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Republicans and Trump supporters, and even Trump himself have all called Democratic liberals as "communists/commies" because they want socialist reforms.
Isn't a Communist one who wants "socialist reforms"? Sort of goes with the territory    :P
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But now I've seen in the news where Trump and/or some of his supporters and fellow Republicans have PRAISED Russia for being strong and going into Ukraine, etc.  :o

Gee, who's the communist now?  :D  Sounds to me like Trump and anybody else who supports Russia is a traitor.  >:(

I was never a big fan of Trump's. I was pleasantly surprised by a lot of what he accomplished, but now, he's had his Fifteen Minutes; he needs to step aside and let fresh leadership step forward. His cult-like followers are every bit as creepy as the cult-like followers of Barack Obama. At least there are no paintings of a naked Donald Trump riding a unicorn.   :o
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Back in the 1980's, Americans..........and Republicans.........knew who our enemy was during the Cold War. It was the Soviet Union. And it still is today even though it's now called Russia. But apparently Repubs just don't care about what is going on across the world and are still fixated on spreading election conspiracies. They obviously have their priorities screwed up. If Reagan were alive and President, he'd stand up to the Russians. Not cozying up to them the way Trump just did.
If Reagan waas alive and President, he'd be 111 years old   :D
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1946 on: February 24, 2022, 09:02:50 pm »
Trump has decided to start his own on line news. 24 hours about Trump. Kind of makes you wonder how many hours will be dedicated to actually showing proof of his election claims. It's been a few years now. There is still no court battles. No evidence give. Even the 'My pillow guy' romp through America has been proven to be nothing more than a hoax. I've heard it called a very long live infomercial about his products. And now we find out he's torn up and even destroyed government documents. Boxes of government documents have been found at this place in Florida. If he's not going to spend time proving himself for 24 hours a day then what's he going to do? Try to convince people that his document handling isn't a federal offense that, in all likelihood, will get him tossed in prison? If I was a Trump supporter I would be asking for proof. Not blindly believing because I was told to. No one who has nothing to hide would fight to keep evidence hidden. If I was a Trump supporter I would has him what he has to hide? People are going to start feeling duped and lied to. There is only so long they can keep this stuff going without showing proof.

And speaking of those who tell people what to believe. I hear Fox news network has abruptly stopped a story about Clinton. Apparently the threat of a law suit stopped them in their tracks. You would think if they were actually telling the truth they would laugh a threat of a law suit off.   

And speaking of saying really stupid things. Yes. If we happen to go to war against Russia Trump and a hand full of republicans will be traders. Even if we stay out and our allies go to war they will still be traders. That's how the law works.
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« Reply #1947 on: February 25, 2022, 01:09:19 am »

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Trump is a narcissist who believes he can do no wrong. "24 hours about Trump" -- won't that be exciting?   (: He had his chance, and now needs to retire to Mar-a-Lago. He won't.

"And now we find out he's torn up and even destroyed government documents". Like Nancy Pelosi did?   :D

"Yes. If we happen to go to war against Russia Trump and a hand full of republicans will be traders.". What will they be trading? Baseball cards? Stamps? Stocks and bonds?   :D
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Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Reply #1949 on: March 03, 2022, 05:49:46 pm »
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/trump-january-6-committee-eastman-email/index.html

The hammer is going to fall. Trump's legal team knew they were doing wrong. This along with definitive proof Trump was telling state reps to "Find votes" to overturn the election. There is definitive proof Trump destroyed documents. And finding government documents in boxes at Trumps place in Florida.

If Fox stopped running a story on Hillery Clinton because of legal threats. Proving they knew they were lying. How long do you think Fox will continue with their fake election claims? Counting the days.

There are more documents and emails to come. Right now they are tied up in legal moves. Kinda like a classical dance. You take a step, I take a step. These are normal procedures that have to be played out in our legal system.
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