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Should AR-15's be banned?

Yes, ban them.
4 (44.4%)
No, don't ban them.
5 (55.6%)
Undecided.
0 (0%)
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Offline Chewy, God of Rats

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Re: Why do people need an AR-15?
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2022, 05:57:10 pm »

But so long as everyone can keep their cool and discuss things respectfully, there should be no reason to lock this.


That seems hard to do given the specific topic at hand. Some people are very passionate about it.
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Re: Why do people need an AR-15?
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2022, 12:19:16 pm »
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Re: Why do people need an AR-15?
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2022, 07:53:40 pm »
I watched the video.
Yes they are the most optimized rifle made thus far.

As a critique on the video...
So what is the " emergency" cases that he references?
And what is probability of occurrence?
This has always been my big question in this debate.

If it is home defense... is it easier to maneuver in home with long gun. Or hand gun? Do you need the power of AR-15, or will 22 suffice? Do you need accuracy of rifle to hit intruder 10 foot from you, or will hand gun be good enough? Do you need deep magazine of 20, or will 12 be good? My Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 9mm is good enough for me.

If you are a soldier in a firefight,  maybe you need range, big magazine
, high accuracy,  and the grenade launcher attachment.

So for the average home owner. Is the AR -15 literally overkill? Will those rounds exit the body of the intruder and hit someone or something behind them?  Will a hand gun with hollow points stop intruder, and only them?  A body is soft, easy to puncture.   Many intruders do they wear tactical gear?

If our government is supposedly going to attack its people,  how is this going to happen, and what are the historical examples in this country,  and how can citizens fight that? This needs answering before one should be expected to believe there is a real threat to the citizens of the  USA  by its government. If we all lived in a war torn country,  these arguments would hold water because the government, neighboring areas,  etc may actually be your enemy. 

If the other emergency cases are attack from another country,  again, what are historical cases of citizens using these weapons to stop enemy.  The people of the USA have had to make a unified,  trained fighting force to be effective against an enemy.  Look at the few soldiers who volunteered from USA to go fight in Ukraine.  They are joining forces there.  They are not fighting by themselves.  People in WWII were drafted,  trained and sent enmass to fight the enemy. And they had more than rifles. Air support,  heavy vehicles,  amphibious vehicles,  intelligence reports,  communications,  etc. 

Pearl harbor.  Did citizens or soldiers stop that from happening by using firearms? No.  How could they?  If a government, be it another,  wants to give USA citizens a beat down,  they need to go through the military first. And we have the finest!!

If our own government wants to attack its citizens,  they can use tanks,  planes,  grenades,  charges,  fully automatic weapons,  directed energy weapons,  cyber attacks,  and who knows what else.  So how will your weapon stop that. Can your gun stop power grid from going off line? No but it can kill your neighbor so you can get their water store.  This is what I see them being used for here if things really go south.  We won't ban together,  we will have in fighting. A government does not kill its populace,  why would it? They would be killing the golden goose. They would enslave us but keep us alive.  And since they have more weapons than us,  our best defense against a tyrannical government is our vote. Nip it in the bud. America is good at that.  We haven't let it happen. 

So yes it is the most advanced rifle a citizen can get here.  So what.
Good intelligence often trumps weapons. There is more to being safe than owning a weapon. 

Culturing a good society with educated people,  who want peace, is our biggest issuance against such evil as the supposed emergencies he tries hard not to explain.
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