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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2005, 11:11:16 pm »
Quote (Patrick Rangerwolf @ June 16 2005, 8:05 pm)
I still have fun in the fandom, but I just want to steer clear of things that have gotten under my skin as of late.

So that makes you like a pseudo fur?

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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2005, 11:13:20 pm »
Or maybe faux fur? '<img'>  '<img'>

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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2005, 11:26:51 pm »
Nah it was a good joke Raven.

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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2005, 01:26:54 am »
Quote (Patrick Rangerwolf @ June 16 2005, 10:30 am)
Please, don't refer to me as a furry anymore. I'm now only a furry artist or an anthropomorphic artist, if you prefer the more academic term. The drama bores me.

heh-heh.
Drama and furs seem to go together.

Furs are about the only fans I know who feel the need to make declarations about changes in their interests.  And then they seem compelled to explain their reasons.  Seems every week someone here will make the announcement and list the whys.

I never see comic fans, trekkies, etc. make such declarations.  They just change their lifestyle and that's that.  Whereas furs seem to enjoy drawing attention to the issue, making it a major event that should be debated.  As Kim Possible might say, "So the drama".
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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2005, 02:09:19 am »
Congradulations Patrick!

I completely agree with your sentiments on what it is to be furry.  Enjoy your new family!



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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2005, 02:20:20 am »
Heheh yeah Party Pony it's kinda odd. Didn't wanna bring it up because I don't want to trivialize what people are saying, but I've left and given up a lot of other communities with no announcement whatsoever myself.. *shrug*
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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2005, 04:57:22 am »
Ive always seen the "Lifestyler" Side of furry as an escape, No offence to anyone elses views of it all.. I was there once when life seemed so ####, The interest in Anthro animals is legit, as my love of roleplaying. But now I look at it as that I escaped to my fursona.

Now lifes better Im still interested in the art and games and the wonderful people around the fandom. But not so much the hardcore side of the fandom.

I hear and im sure We all hear where your voicing from Patrick. Just dont ditch us we enjoy your company online very much and would hate to see someone pushed away by the other sides of the furry world...

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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2005, 06:24:11 am »
You don't have to be into the more "Hardcore" Stuff to still be furry! I respect your decision, and it was the right one considering you now have a family to take care of but you shouldn't leave just because a few furs spoiled it for you! I have never used furry as an escape, and I'm not really a lifestyler. Most people I talk to haven't either. I enjoy being human very much, I have thumbs, I can play video games, and have such deep emotions. You could still call yourself a fur even if all you have is a character you don't use that often.

Good luck with your family! And sorry for rambleing it's only 6:15 here and I got up about 17 minutes ago.  ':p'




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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2005, 09:48:13 am »
Completely understood.  I've only been up for about an hour, long enough to get ready, race out of the door, and get my hair cut, which was as overgrown as my yard.

I'm just dumping the hardcore side.  My character will still exist.  I just re-designed him, in fact.  Now, my biggest problem is finding more time to draw him as well as many other furry characters which want out of my brain and on to paper.
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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2005, 11:31:46 am »
Burr and Party Pony, perhaps the reason Furs constantly announce they're making a change in their lifestyle is because furs are starting to turn up younger and younger? For a child and even a teenager, making any kind of change can be frightening to them, and they want to have someone there they trust to tell them it's allright. They don't trust their broring old parents to understand what is actualy a simple matter, so they exlaim it over the net.

Patrick, sounds like you made a good choice and you're happy with it! Have fun and good luck! *Doesn't remember if she posted in this thread before...*

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« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2005, 12:40:55 am »
I applaude you.  I agree with you and many others who have posted their thoughts about the community.  God bless, and good luck with everything. '<img'>
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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2005, 04:43:29 pm »
Patrick, I hope everything goes the best got you. You know youll always have a home here.
 
The choice of how deep one wishes to be into the fandom depends on the person and thats one of the best things about it,no matter what level you take it to youre always accepted.

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« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2005, 04:49:40 pm »
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Quote (Feldy-MDR @ June 16 2005, 11:03 pm)
Heh, it'll be kinda odd to have a non fur as a mod at a furry forum.

But anyways, do what you want to.

Heres my oppinian on furry. Furry is awesome, no matter what kind of furry you are. Aslong as it doesn't prevent you from advancing in life, it's an awesome thing to do.

Actually, I shouldn't be listed as a mod.  I quit that position way back in October, so I really can't figure out why I have the honour, still.

I still have fun in the fandom, but I just want to steer clear of things that have gotten under my skin as of late.

A nonfur can be a mod. Its whats inside that makes someone good at the job.


Patrick, Ive mentioned this post to WS.

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« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2005, 11:25:45 pm »
I would love to be Artwork of the Week judge; however, with my crazed schedule and backed up commissions, I just can't peruse the site as leisurely as I could just a little over a year ago.

I would like to keep the title, but not in good faith.  Not when I can't engage in the job properly.

Hopefully, when I can get these backed-up projects cleared out, I'll get back into it.

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« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2005, 04:36:51 am »
Trust me. I will revel in my humanity. I still see the wolf as my totem animal, of sorts, but I will never achieve lupine. Why work and obsess over something that will never happen? I must concentrate on my God, my wife, my child, and my art.

Again, it will suffice in my life to be a fandom spectator. As for lifestyling, I want no part of it. To me, furry is an art movement much like Impressionism, Baroque, Abstract Expressionism, or the like.


So whatcher problem? No one sets any sort of standard as to what Furry is. It is up to you to determine how you "do Furry", what level of fandom involvement you will have. If anyone tries to tell you that your way isn't right, then they are just being iceholes.

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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2005, 09:02:51 pm »
HI all. Hey Patrick. I dont know you,but from reading your posts,but I feel i have something to add. IT sounds likw you have alot on yer mind. I guess a family will do that!! Congrats on that,though! But like in life,there will be drama. Im in the Navy. There is ALWAYS drama!!!!! I hate drama. Life in general has taught me to be me. Im human and i love myself. No one can take the fact that i love myself away from me! ITs kinda like an information manual. TO make it work for you,take the information you need from it,then discard the rest.  Do what you do,say what you mean,love how you love,and above all,be true to you!!!!!! It might not help,but I fell i had to say something. I hate seeing people upset!!

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« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2005, 04:21:29 pm »
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The funny thing is I feel the same way as you but I have no problem still calling myself a furry (though not a lifestyler). *shrug*


Yeah, what Burr said.

I'm married. Happily so and have been for nigh on three years. I work at a job, as does he. No children, because my body doesn't allow for that. I tend to call myself "broken" a lot. I pay for a home and a car and bills like all other human beings do. I've never thought of myself as anything but a human. A human that enjoys furry things and participates in these things because it's a hobby, for lack of a better word. I draw furry art and write furry stories.

My point in all that is that I don't see why you're so worked up about NOT being called a furry. Face it, man. So long as you like furry things, like the art, then you're gonna be a furry. Even if you swear up and down that you're not, people are gonna come along and say that you are. But that never ONCE meant that you ever thought of yourself as an animal.

Now, I really don't know just how many furries think they're animals in a human's body, but I'm going to risk guessing that it isn't a whole lot. I think for the majority of us all, it's just a fun interest to enjoy with those who also enjoy it.

I don't condone people running around mating everything that moves because animals do it. Animals don't catch STD's like humans do. But let's face this, also. Not just furries go have sex with people they don't know. Many ordinary people do it every day. I know of at least three women who do it. Not one of them is remotely furry in any way. It's just what some people do! It might be wrong, but it's what they wanna do, so we should try not to judge them.

If you're having some sort of hard time in life, I'm hoping you'll find yourself beating it. Best wishes to you.
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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2005, 02:17:58 am »
Patrick, I hardly know you and I don't want to speak for you, but from what you've said it really sounds like what you wish to shed is the title of "furry" and the implications associated with it. That's all well and good, but to me titles have never really meant anything when it comes to who you really are. In a way, I guess it's a healthy habit for one to disassociate himself from categories and groups, as they never really can do justice to the complexity of one's character (as useful as they are). When you look at it that way, your choice seems prudent. At the same time (and again, I don't wish to sound judgmental or presumptuous) it seems a little odd that you'd spend so much time thinking about the title in the first place. You're Patrick, a person which many people apparently know and love whether you choose to call yourself furry or not.

So I guess what I'm saying is that it's no big deal. You're still a cool guy.  '<img'>
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« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2005, 11:51:58 pm »
I think that being furry is a very human thing to do - for me its about knowing the difference between who and what I am and who and what I would like to be, and trying, in my own way, to bridge the gap between them. That what I dream is sometimes unattainable is also very human, and I do not see it as a reason to relinquish the dream. Attainability is not a requisite of desire, afterall.

Of course, if its legitimate to say that furry can be about finding out who and what you are, then perhaps thats just what you are doing. And maybe descarding the furry label is an important part of that for you.

I think the problem may be the freight that the title itself can carry though. I have a couple of friends that I think are very furry, but who will not use the word to describe themselves for similar reasons.

For me "furry" is what I was even before I knew there was a word for it. Its what I will always be, not because I choose it, but because it is a part of me. The most I could do is ignore it or deny it, but these actions would change nothing essential about my nature or my character.

Because of it and my exploration of it, I feel closer to and more aware of nature- I've learned a lot about foxes and other animals that I would never have known, and more about myself as well. I've made good friends and good memories. That's what the word "furry" means to me. I am happy to use it to describe myself- though it needn't define me as a whole person.

And the furry "community" is like any other aspect of human society. As a microcosm, it contains a variety of kinds of people and behaviors. Thankfully it is not a package deal. I can choose to partake of what I percieve to be good in it and leave the rest behind. Others may choose to make the same decision when regarding me from this perspective- if they choose the negative stereotype, I feel it is their loss.

Whatever your path though, if it is right for you, then I salute your resolve to follow it, and I wish you a fruitful journey. In the end we are what we are, and hopefully its the best that we can make of ourselves.
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« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2005, 01:09:27 am »
All that I can say to that is, do what you feel is right.  If you feel like it's not for you anymore, then don't do it; no one should hold it against you.
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« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2005, 12:53:56 am »
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« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2005, 08:07:19 am »
I stopped being a furry a while ago. I simply found other things to fill in my time. Occassionally I still think about it, and perhaps some of it will always be with me (including those tiger ears in my closet).

I was here because I saw the good site of it (this site) and hoped that I could cling to it. But people will always see "those weirdos who get it on in animal customes" and so on and so forth, so it's better for me and any future career of mine to just supress it for a while.

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« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2005, 02:44:20 pm »
I hope you still poke around here once in a while Pat. I wish I could have gotten to know you more.

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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2005, 02:57:44 am »
Quote (Patrick Rangerwolf @ June 16 2005, 10:30 am)
It's been a while since I've been here, and I've noticed a few members of the fandom showing some dissatisfaction with the Furry realm.  I can be included in this club, now.  I wrote this a while back in my Live Journal.  Read on if you like, but mind you, I've lost my taste for this furry thing as a lifestyle, so some of you may get a little upset reading this.  Be aware, though.  This is just me and my feelings.  

Can I chalk this up to growing up (I had a nice long conversation today with a local friend that told me that having a kid will change you even more than getting married) or to the fact that I'm seeing too many friends obsessing about attaining something that they will never be or involving themselves in pointless relationships that are only about animalistic physicality and not love?

Gee, isn't that what animals do? Mate with anything that's moving.

Newsflash! You are human, and promiscuous sex in the human world is dangerous. Besides, many animals revel in loyal lifematings such as wolves, ravens, eagles, falcons, orcas, and a few others I can't name off the top of my head.

I grow weary. The furry fantasy for me is now lost on me. Please, don't refer to me as a furry anymore. I'm now only a furry artist or an anthropomorphic artist, if you prefer the more academic term. The drama bores me. Don't get me wrong. I love good fantasy, and I sure enjoy immersing myself in it, at times, but you have to live in reality. Sure it's cold and harsh, but you must deal with it. Escapism is fine, but using escapism to not deal with reality is just as bad as slugging back a whole bottle of Captain Morgan's or sticking a needle in your arm.

Again, Patrick Rangerwolf is just a cute symbol, not me or something I want to be. Okay, maybe he's an artistic rendering of an extension of myself (another thing my friend today told me, which made perfect sense to me). I guess that's how Disney saw Mickey, an extension of himself, but Patrick Rangerwolf is not me. Trust me. I will revel in my humanity. I still see the wolf as my totem animal, of sorts, but I will never achieve lupine. Why work and obsess over something that will never happen? I must concentrate on my God, my wife, my child, and my art.

Again, it will suffice in my life to be a fandom spectator. As for lifestyling, I want no part of it. To me, furry is an art movement much like Impressionism, Baroque, Abstract Expressionism, or the like.

"I am not an animal! I am a human being!"
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I am now satisfied to be a furry artist exclusively, and I will enjoy being a human.

As a newb I agree somewhat, the lifestyle seems to be where I fit, but you're right about the importance of commitment and marriage and having kids... all things not uncommon to animals either... no they don't mate with everything... I hope being a furry goes a little bit deeper then mating with anything. Well, at least I hope, I feel like I've found myself and have security because of it I don't want that ruined so early, I got up in front of my digital media class and spoke about my project with complete confidence! I'm scared to death at that stuff! I don't want my security taken away from me, not now!  ':dead:'
And finally I can connect with something, other people like myself. I finally figured out why I'm so shy I thought I was alone in being a furry. I can finally have more friends. sigh... someones reading this aren't they? Someone understands right?