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« on: January 17, 2006, 11:11:00 pm »
I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Life Problems forum. Sorry if it's in the wrong spot.

For the last few days, I've been having some thoughts about myself being in the furry fandom. I can't help but wonder if I've stopped being a fan and am now progressing toward becoming a lifestyler. But I'm not exactly sure how I would know when that change occurs? What exactly stops a person from simply becoming a fan and then changing to becoming a lifestyler? I never thought I would be in the fandom for very long, maybe just a few weeks or a few months just to see what it was like and then leave. But now here it is slightly over two years later and I'm enjoying it very much. '<img'>  It's hard for me to put into words my feelings and thoughts why I joined the fandom and why I like it so much now, I just do. The atmosphere and friendship that one finds are truly amazing. I've never had this much fun and this many friends before and I find it quite wonderful and refreshing. My life has never been this happy before. When I'm my furry self, I just feel more relaxed and content(sp?).
But for all the time I've been in the fandom right now, I still want more and am still not satisfied.

I still need to go to a con.
I still want to meet as many Furtopians as I can.
I still want to buy and wear a fursuit.
I still want to keep collecting furry plushies, artwork, etc., etc. to put in my home.
I still can't get enough of Furtopia! I love it here! '<img'>

As days go by, I just keep thinking and dreaming about a lot of furry things. Every time I ride the bus to work or going home, all I ever do is think furry. When I'm at home, I'll be browsing the Furtopia website keeping up to date on all the latest stuff 6 or more times a day. I'm also constantly viewing furry websites for artwork, news, cons, etc. when I know I should be doing dishes, cleaning the apartment, building my friend's model ship, etc.  Am I going a little too far? Have I really progressed from fan to lifestyler? Or is being a lifestyler something more that I haven't reached yet and probably don't want to?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 11:43:26 pm »
Quote (Kobuk @ Jan. 17 2006, 11:11 pm)
When I'm at home, I'll be browsing the Furtopia website keeping up to date on all the latest stuff 6 or more times a day. I'm also constantly viewing furry websites for artwork, news, cons, etc. when I know I should be doing dishes, cleaning the apartment, building my friend's model ship, etc.  Am I going a little too far?

Maybe.  It's probably not especially healthy to be spending time online that needs to be devoted to more important things.  The trouble with furry is, most of it can only be experienced at the user end of an Internet connection.  The trick is to find a balance.

And I'm one to talk. ':shock:' I'm about as addicted to the Internet part of it as anyone can be, in the absence of any other outlet... or inlet as it may be.  But I can speak from experience.  Too much Internet... it does things to your brain, man.  I'm not kidding.  Wreaks havoc on your attention span.  And worse, it keeps you wanting to come back for more... it's like a drug... OMG SAVE YOURSELF WHILE YOU STILL CANNNNNNN *turns into a horror movie and melts into the floor*

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2006, 12:15:39 am »
Quote (Kobuk @ Jan. 18 2006, 3:11 am)
I still need to go to a con.
I still want to meet as many Furtopians as I can.
I still want to buy and wear a fursuit.
I still want to keep collecting furry plushies, artwork, etc., etc. to put in my home.
I still can't get enough of Furtopia! I love it here! '<img'>

ditto '<img'> i just cant get enough fur '<img'>

i dont really know what the definition of a lifestyler actualy is so i cant really say whether you are one or not.
i would sugest to you to do the dishes...but...u know...*shrugs*
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2006, 12:18:04 am »
Sorry if this has been stated already (I'm being a bit lazy)

But can someone outline the difference between say a Fur...and a lifestyler....

Pleeaaseee

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2006, 12:23:30 am »
Quote (Murphy @ Jan. 17 2006, 11:18 pm)
Sorry if this has been stated already (I'm being a bit lazy)

But can someone outline the difference between say a Fur...and a lifestyler....

Pleeaaseee

QFE, I don't know what the line is either.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2006, 01:45:36 am »
I'm not one so I could be totally wrong, but my impression of a lifestyler is not so much how much you are into the fandom itself, but rather, the means you'll go to in order to act out your fursona. Fursuiting is one of them, but also all the other stuff people do to be more like the animal they claim to be (eating certain foods, behaving a certain way, etc.), really taking it on as a spiritualism all its own instead of merely having fun with drawings and such.

That's what pops in my head when I think lifestyler. Not just someone who goes to a lot of cons and spends a lot of time on the web, but someone who really thinks they are the character they've created and is willing to stretch boundaries to show it.




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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2006, 01:55:05 am »
Quote (Kobuk @ Jan. 17 2006, 8:11 pm)
I can't help but wonder if I've stopped being a fan and am now progressing toward becoming a lifestyler.

I'd say don't worry about it. Just be you. Though... you should make sure to do those things that need to be done.

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2006, 02:30:28 am »
"But can someone outline the difference between say a Fur...and a lifestyler...."

These days, it's not such an easy question to answer since the meaning of "lifestyler" has changed. Today, "lifestyler" is used to mean much the same thing that the Anime fandom calls an "Otaku" -- a fan who takes his fandom a bit too seriously.

Ten years ago, or so, there were two terms: "fan" and "lifestyler". The definitions were clearer: "fans" were basically passive consumers of art and comics produced by mainly the APA's (Alternative Press Associations). The "lifestylers" were more participatory in the fandom's creative process. They created their own art, wrote their own fanfic and comics, invented new Furry artforms such as fursuiting and role playing. Since these "lifestylers" were using the 'Net to do an end-run-around the established publishing houses and APA's, offering their works for free, this led to a not inconsiderable amount of friction and a nasty flame war on the AFF (alt.fan.furry) Usenet group. An uneasy truce was reached with the foundation of ALF (alt.lifestyle.furry).

Confusion can result since the older Furries tend to use these terms with the old definitions in mind, whereas newer affiliates tend to use the term "lifestyler" to mean the obsessive/compulsive type of fan.

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2006, 06:00:28 am »
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I'm not one so I could be totally wrong, but my impression of a lifestyler is not so much how much you are into the fandom itself, but rather, the means you'll go to in order to act out your fursona. Fursuiting is one of them, but also all the other stuff people do to be more like the animal they claim to be (eating certain foods, behaving a certain way, etc.), really taking it on as a spiritualism all its own instead of merely having fun with drawings and such.

That's what pops in my head when I think lifestyler. Not just someone who goes to a lot of cons and spends a lot of time on the web, but someone who really thinks they are the character they've created and is willing to stretch boundaries to show it.


So far Burr, I don't think I've reached that point yet. I don't purr, bark, growl, taste animal food, or behave in a certain animal type of way. In fact, I also don't have any sort of spiritual connection to a animal species or my fursona. About the only thing I truly do at home to act out my fursona is to wear my tail but that's about it. And sure, I do want a fursuit for wearing during holidays, parties, festivals, cons, etc., but I don't want to actually "live in the suit" and become my fursona that way.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2006, 11:54:27 am »
Quote (Simo @ Jan. 18 2006, 2:30 am)
Today, "lifestyler" is used to mean much the same thing that the Anime fandom calls an "Otaku" -- a fan who takes his fandom a bit too seriously.
Ten years ago, [snip] The "lifestylers" were more participatory in the fandom's creative process. They created their own art, wrote their own fanfic and comics, invented new Furry artforms such as fursuiting and role playing

I guess it just goes to prove what goes around comes around.

I first heard the term "lifestylers" in the 1980s.  At that time, it was a deragotory term for fans who took the whole furry movement "too seriously".  There were "fans" (who seriously collected and studied stuff) , "furs" (not so seriously into collecting, but just into "fur" characters) , and "lifestylers" (those who could not stop talking/thinking fur stuff) .  Guess you might have called "lifestylers" the "geeks" of early furry fandom.  And yes, in those early days, one was referred to as being in "furry fandom", not being "a furry".  Which is a difference.

At that time, most lifestylers were NOT creative types.  The artists, writers and suiters were simply using their skills with a furry bent.  After all, many furry artists were originally "just" comic artists, animators, writers, cotumers, etc. who enjoyed anthropomorphic stuff.  They went to cons to talk shop, sell wares, and enjoy those with similar interests.  The first furcons had many of the same folks you would see at comic cons and scifi cons.

I remember how a majority of the furry fandom actually looked down on lifestylers.  They were considered true fanatics who were "bringing down" the fandom.  At several early parties, cons, and bbses (computer bulletin boards, early versions of forums) there was a movement to ban lifestylers.  Several years later, a similar attempt was made to ban furs into adult material.  

Today, I am not sure what constitute a lifestyler.  It seems most current "furs" are closer to the old term of "lifestyler".  The newer breed seldom consider themselves any sort of fan, but rather a "fur".  They are very much into the lifestyle of furdom with fursonnas, tails and ears, alternate lives on the web and such.  

And I would think anyone who gets their "fur up" due to heated arguments on forums like this is a "lifestyler".   '<img'>
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2006, 01:12:50 pm »
Poor alt.lifestyle.furry . .  so full of .. spam.  =T.T=

I know I'm a lifestyler.  But then I'm therian, too.  I meowed before I could speak, and one of my first questions in life was "why don't I have a tail like other cats?"

Hmm.. as for lifestyle getting in the way of normal life...
I suppose if you're getting fired over the fact that your boss won't let you wear your fursuit to work, and you're protesting...
Or something like that..  Yeah, that'd be over the top.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2006, 06:46:38 pm »
Well, ok here's my take on who is a fan and who is a lifestyler.
A fan generally only likes furry as a hobby, yanno, like he/she likes (only) the fiction, 'zines, art, and furry-related movies an stuff, but nothing more than that, Except the usuall hefty gobs of time online, like most other people who have an intrest in anything that you can find so much stuf of online.
For a lifestyler Its more a part of there personality, and they go spend lots of money on a fursuit, make it a point to go to cons, do animal type stuff (the general, purr, growl, mew, whatever), and also make it a point, even if it proves very difficult, to hang out with other furs often.

For a fan, its a hobby.
For a lifestyler, or what for all pratical purposes i shall call a 'fur' (and i shall call a fan a 'fur fan' ), it is more a part of themseves, or at least for them its more a subcoulture then a hobby.

If you discribe your personalyty or something about you as furry, then you are a fur. But if you describe one your intrests/hobbys as furry, then you can be called a 'fur fan'. So theres about as detailed as i can get, but of corse, were all right and were all wrong, right?  ':p'

What would work best is if we just describe all furries in a more personal way, and everyone can make up there own mind how much this person is into furry, rather than trying to disern who is who by calling them differt names. But, if you still really want to know which one you fall into Kobuk, IMO, your more a 'lifestler', and nothing wrong with that '<img'>.




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