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Offline Scrimno

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« on: October 18, 2003, 03:54:48 am »
In all my life, I have never felt more furry than when I've been lucid dreaming. It is a state of sleep in which the dreamer becomes aware that they are dreaming. It is highly exciting and can be very intense. The dreamer's senses will become highly attuned to the atmosphere around themselves, and experienced dreamers are able to shape their dream world, and themselves within it, to their will. With practice, I think everybody has the potential to lucid dream.
    Starting out is very difficult, but the rewards are well worth it. Realizing you're in a dream may seem like a  simple concept, but the mind has many tricks to maintain the farce. Keep a dream journal. Write in it as soon as you awake from a dream while it is still fresh in your mind. Simply doing this will increase the frequency of dreams you have. Focusing on image details and emotions in your journal will make your dreams more vivid. Remember that your dreams expand to accomodate your imagination, so it is important to develop your visualization skills. A system of "reality checks" you excercise many times each day will help you catch yourself dreaming.
    The symbol method is helpful to beginners. Look at a logo, clock face, or some writing. If you are unable to decipher the meaning of these symbols, you are in a dream. If you can read the symbol, read something else and go back to the first. If its meaning has changed, you are dreaming. This method counts on the randomness of a person's dream, and as a dreamer becomes more experienced, the randomness will diminish to the point where the symbol will not change until the dreamer wills it to do so.
    The logic method counts on the suggestability of dreams, but can be more subtle to spot. An uncontrolled (non-lucid) dream will often take the form of whatever the dreamer half-expects it to take. Proof of this is a nightmare. Most nightmares proceed in a fashion that the dreamer is afraid of, so the dream picks up on the anticipation and responds as a reflex. This can work to your advantage. If you find that things are happening predictably to what you anticipate, try changing the pattern to something out of the ordinary. For example, try to high-five an invisible anthro fox. You will know you're dreaming when you feel the slap on your palm.
    The memory-gap method deals with a dream's spontaneiety. Think of the last place you were before you got to the place you are now. Then try to remember just how you got from one place to another, and what you did in-between. Dreams immediately take you to your destination and skip the go-between. If you can't recall for the life of you where you were last or in-between, you just might be dreaming.
    The awareness method is the most accurate, albeit most difficult to master, "reality check". It relies on the fact that you are invariably connected and "in control" of everything in your dream world. Try to reach out with your senses and visualize all of the things around you, behind you, in the next room... as far as you can. When you're dreaming, things will seem closer to you and close like you could pick it up from across the house. Go ahead. Reach behind yourself and pick up a hammer, then see it in your hand that was empty before. Needless to say, you can't do this when you're awake. Things will seem more detached and their existance in your mind questionable. This skill will come in useful for shaping yourself and your environment in dreams.
    Once you have realized you're dreaming, you may wonder what to do next. Practice gaining confidence that you are the master of your dream world. Come to expect that the land will take any form you choose. Be sure that whatever item or tool you want will materialize right into your hand. You can conjure up wonderous beings and send them away. You can feel and experience anything you let yourself. Most of all, shapeshifting is real and you have instinctual control of the body and senses of whatever form you choose.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2003, 09:57:48 am »
d-ream.... what is this dreaming you speak of.

I tends not to dream very often, ive never had a nightmare, even after playing and bieng scared papless by resident evil, so my question is, how do i dream more...
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2003, 10:04:10 am »
*nods slowly*

I don't dream either. I never have nightmares and I never dream.. but then I hardly sleep.

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2003, 10:09:52 am »
It would be nice to be in a dream where i have control, but then again, i can use my imagination to good effect, but its not the same, bieng able to see something with your mind is not as good as seeing through your eyes, even if what you see is created by your mind.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2003, 11:13:11 am »
Quote (Kale @ Oct. 23 2003, 6:57 am)
I tends not to dream very often, ive never had a nightmare, even after playing and bieng scared papless by resident evil, so my question is, how do i dream more...

You most likely do dream, but probably forget all about it as soon as you wake up. There are a few techniques I know to enhance the frequency of dreams. The best is to keep a dream journal and write in it as soon as you wake up. Even jotting down some fragments of a dream will help you remember more details in the future.
    The way the sleep pattern works is in steps. Sleep first takes care of your needs for rest and healing, and you start dreaming after those needs are met before you wake up. If you don't get enough rest, you never have the chance to dream. Go to bed earlier to get all the rest you need, and you will dream more. Or if you can, try going back to sleep right after you wake up in the morning. You can jump-start dreams that way. Daytime naps, sleeping with the TV on, or sleeping in a sitting position are more difficult to do, but these things open yourself to suggestability of things you might encounter in your dreams.




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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2003, 11:13:44 am »
As I understand it, everyone (healthy) dreams - the brain couldn't "recharge itself" without them. There were some experiments done a while back on this, and a group of people who said they never dreamt were woken up during their REM (rapid eye movement) sleep phases. They all reported dreams. It seems to be an integral part of sleep.

It's just that under ordinary conditions, many people never remember the things when they wake up. I almost never used to. One interesting thing is that I seem to be remembering noticeably more of my own dreams since finding furry... and happily a good proportion of them are furry dreams. '<img'>
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2003, 02:15:48 pm »
Quote (Loganberry @ Oct. 23 2003, 10:13 am)
One interesting thing is that I seem to be remembering noticeably more of my own dreams since finding furry... and happily a good proportion of them are furry dreams. '<img'>

I noticed that too...and I've started waking up with phantom parts after a furry dream.

I haven't had a lucid dream for years now, but I think I used to have them all the time as a kid.  I would know I was dreaming, and I had some control over what happened, but usually as soon as I realized I was dreaming, I woke up within seconds.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2003, 04:15:17 pm »
Quote (Lobar Sciuridae @ Oct. 23 2003, 11:15 am)
... usually as soon as I realized I was dreaming, I woke up within seconds.

That can happen because of your initial shock at realizing you're in a dream. It's totally understandable to be excited about that, so don't blame yourself for waking up right after becoming lucid. The more times you become lucid, the easier it will be to control your reaction and stay in the dream.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2003, 04:00:23 am »
well, i made an entry in my dream diary, its currently just an addition to the various jottings on my pc. the first entry reads

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Something about toilet roll, it got wet (possibly something to do with my younger brother)


I just posted becaude it was as wierd as hell, and shows off my general wierdness and highly selective memory
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2003, 04:00:47 am »
I've been interested in lucid dreaming for quite a while now. I'm still pretty much a novice at it though, and have only had a few.

If haven't already checked you could go look at www.ld4all.com theres a good bit of info and a forum as well. There's also the lucidity institute but I forgot the web address.





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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2003, 05:25:34 am »
Quote (Kale @ Oct. 24 2003, 1:00 am)
Something about toilet roll, it got wet (possibly something to do with my younger brother)

How did that make you feel? Me, I probably would be upset at the fact that perfectly useful toilet paper got ruined. And if it had to do with my brother, I'd be angry at him for being wasteful.
    Sometimes when you don't remember much from a dream, it helps to focus on the emotions you experience. They can lead you to fill in the gaps.

Zero, thanks for the link. It's got some interesting ideas, like home-made dream goggles. BTW The Lucidity Institute, is www.lucidity.com




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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2003, 06:39:34 am »
I was a little wierded out by it actually, i know i was in my house and that it involved soggy rolls of toilet paper, but the rest of it eludes me
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2003, 08:46:59 am »
Wow sounds like this was right out of this dream book I have here. Pretty elliquent. Good reading too.

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2003, 02:39:18 pm »
I very rarely realise that I'm dreaming but it's fun when I do although sometimes i can't workout why I don't realise I'm dreaming if you get my meaning.
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2003, 12:47:41 am »
I started having lucid dreams when I was a kid and was always afraid to go to sleep because I knew I would always have the same nightmare! Something was after me and I had no escape but before I would get caught, I always woke up. Thank goodness!

Then I remember reading something some where about thinking about something pleasant or listening to something pleasing before going to bed. And I also heard that one could control what happens in a dream. I tried both. It took a couple of years but I finally was able to be my pegasus and was so excited in the dream that I could actually change and get away before being captured that I kept dreaming and flying around and seeing things I never saw before! It was fantastic. I never had that nightmare again after that.

I would have other dreams after that but I knew I could control what was happening so sometime it was a lot of fun and other times I just let things go the way they were knowing I could 'get out' any time I wanted.

Now adays though, if I am dreaming, mainly having a nightmare, I wake myself up because I know that I need to change positions since the nightmare is caused by severe back pain that I am sleeping through.

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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2003, 05:29:28 am »
I never dream. Every time I think it's a dream, it turns out to be a vision or something. I still can't understand it.


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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2003, 07:10:50 am »
I found a while ago that if you begin to tell your self a story before you fall asleep you can continue you it as you dream.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2003, 02:31:38 pm »
Well, I'm starting my dream diary again, and I'll see where I end up.  '<img'> The act of buying a journal for this purpose seems to have helped me remember my dreams too, because I had the first dream I can remember for a while last night. '<img'>

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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2003, 04:32:20 pm »
*gets his dictaphone out again* Well, i finally have a use for my dictaphone again, which is nice
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2003, 08:05:07 pm »
I have dreams every night and I can usually remember them as well.  (In alot of my dreams I can jump as high as I want)  I have never had a Lucid dream befor though. (sighs)
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2003, 05:16:39 am »
Quote (naquadria @ Oct. 25 2003, 8:05 pm)
(In alot of my dreams I can jump as high as I want)

Someone's been watching The Matrix too much, methinks


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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2003, 01:37:55 pm »
LOL
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2003, 03:23:50 pm »
<.. drams daily

usually 2-3 weird dreams that i cant control ( lucid ones ) per week
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2003, 03:48:43 pm »
When I have a dream, it comes true. When I don't dream, it feels strange.


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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2003, 03:49:53 pm »
I have dreams just about every day..but if i dont really think about them, or write about them as soon as i wake up, i usually forget.
I NEVER have good dreams...i dont even remember the last time i did. Usually all my dreams are about things that could have been good, going wrong..people trying to kill me, people chasing me, people i love hating me...and that kind of stuff.

I think ive only ever had about 3 or 4 dreams where ive actually been aware that i was dreaming and stuff.

Yeah..