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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2005, 09:05:23 pm »
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You think so? I always hated it myself. Sure it has its good points but they in no way outweigh the bad. At least for me. 'Course I have issues so... Oh never mind.

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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2005, 02:03:12 pm »
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Then there is the theory that there is only so much conciousness and intelligence in the universe.  As our population increases, the amount of each decreases per person.  That is why folks today show less of both.

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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2005, 09:13:17 pm »
Oh nya, I forgot to mention something. All this reincarnation stuff boils down to what you believe. I mean there are still people who refuse to believe that dinosaurs ever existed even though they can go to a museum and see the bones for themselves. I'm not out to change anybody's mind though. I'll only crush someone's beliefs if they start something. Otherwise I'll let them think ignorance is bliss. *shrugs*

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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2005, 10:07:43 pm »
*raises hand*
Ooh ooh I would like to have my beliefs crushed! Prove reincarnation is real!
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2005, 01:14:31 am »
Uhm, honestly I'd rather not. Do you have any idea how creepy it would be to have a dead version of you on display at a museum? I'm really not here to start trouble. I was just trying to make a point. But if it was your corpse in the glass case I'd be all for it.




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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2005, 11:32:20 pm »
I have had.. flashes. A wolf pack, in the snow, the place seems mountanous and we are happy, and I am with him, the one I know to be my lifemate in this life. Then there is misery, blood on the snow and in white fur.

This is strange because, as a Christian, I of course did not originally belive in reincarnation. After deep thought I have come to the conclusion that life is a challenge of sorts, that it may be possible to move up the animal chain of existance and that the most important thing in life is to find the elusive other half of your soul. Only when this occurs can anyone hope to assend to heaven for we are all broken and without our other half none of us can ever be complete.

Well those are my views anyway. I'm sure they seem stupid enough to those who are not me, but at the end of the day every religion and beleive seems a little odd if it is not yours.

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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2005, 05:04:10 am »
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...and that the most important thing in life is to find the elusive other half of your soul. Only when this occurs can anyone hope to assend to heaven for we are all broken and without our other half none of us can ever be complete.

I've had a recurring, incredibly vivid dream, i felt like it was a lucid dream as well, though during the dream i had no memory of here... anyway... it had something to do with me being in this home further away, not a fancy place, but i lived there for a week, and was taught things from some girl with pink hair that i could never see her face... then she taught me how to create this disc by moving my hand in a certain pattern on a table... the disc was somewhat like plastic, had a hole in the center... she proceeded outside where she did some sort of dance, and a larger disc appeared around her about waist high. This is the strange part b/c sometimes i actually just start thinking about this suddenly and i get this weird chill... i can't explain it :\  um... but anyway... about a day later we're going to this ceremony, in a humongous area, looks like a castle but... more like just a huge pedestal (sorry, bad spelling there) with a equally enormous stone wall around us in a sort of square shape... i'm on a wall, looking in... the floor of the area is packed with people, i can pick out some people i know... and then everyone gets quiet and begins praying, or chanting, i'm not sure exactly, but upon waking it kinda came to me like the "Lord's Prayer" from Roman Catholic Christianity (our Father). Then an orange version of one of these discs appears in the sky, and the whole of the area begins to shake in huge thuds... rhythmically... not like in any crazed way... sorta like how it is if you tap your foot to a song... but on a grander scale... then the disc begins glowing... and there's this huge light... and then i woke up.

I dunno why, but for some reason what you said up there... reminded me of this.
There is another more common dream, shorter to explain... where I'm usually a girl, but have been also my fursona, my normal self, and a hermaphroditic version of me and the girl version... the strange part of it, other than me being a petit girl, is um... that it continues... like every night i have the dream, it continues from where it left off last time... without fail.  At the moment the dream is of me in a college campus that i've never seen, but i could almost map it i've dreamt it so many times. There is also the thing that these dreams are normally very lucid... and by concentrating hard enough on an upward movement i'm usually able to levitate.

not sure why i shared all of this suddenly though... maybe it's because it's late... i dunno... i'm not used to openly sharing stuff this private to the open public... but... i guess i don't see any harm in doing it... maybe i'll get some feedback on if it means anything ':p' it kinda.. troubles me a lot
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2005, 10:39:34 am »
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Well my question is the same as other skeptics of past life theory and stuff. How come nobody dreams they were a cockroach or anything else rather undesirable in a past life?

The coakroach brain isn't developed enough to remember....  

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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2005, 10:48:32 am »
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*raises hand*
Ooh ooh I would like to have my beliefs crushed! Prove reincarnation is real!

OK, here's my "non-religious, scientific take" on things:

Life is a form of energy.

Energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed.

All energy that ever was, is and will be is here, now.

Therefore, unless physics change, all the life that ever was, is and will be is here, now.

However, not all the animal or vegtable life is here, now, as it has been (think extinct species).

Therefore, it has been transformed into something else.

As for religious belief, I'm with Triad on the second part of his post '<img'>

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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2005, 10:56:56 am »
I have always pondered reincarnation.  Here are some facts of my life that cause me to wonder.

I have a deep love for Patsy Cline music.  She died when I was 1 and a half years old.  I asked my parents about it and neither of them have ever been fond of her music so I probably didn't hear it much on the radio as a toddler.

I also have a deep love for symphony music.  Mostly when incorpoated into rock and roll, ie Kansas, ELP and Nightwish.
Something about the instruments...... yet I have never played any instruments and no one else in my family likes orchestra music.

Also my recurring dream of falling and fear associated with it.  Yet I have no fear of heights.

Why would I have such a strong feelings in these areas when I really don't a reason too.  I just wonder if these are fragments of past lives that break through to my consciousness.

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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2005, 01:27:35 pm »
If anyone believes in Re-in, it's me ^_^

I believe in it, because I seem to have heightened senses that mostly animals have (IE, hearing and smelling). Sometimes it gets bad though x.x;;

I've also been known to stretch oddly, more like a dog, and my yawns remind me of a cat. I'm wondering what I was before, and what I'll be next... and why right now I'm human...
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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2005, 06:16:52 pm »
I would think that i have the soul of a tiger more than of a human. the ways that i act like a tiger ie stretching, yawning, heh groweling, the hightend sences, like smell and hearing. heck i can smell pizza a mile away in NY of all places even my parents are trying to fiure out how i did that. I seem to ack a lot like a tiger, i see it more and more each day, noticing new things that i have done but never knew that i did it to begin with. Tigers and all cats have been a huge fasination of mine all my life.

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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2005, 02:21:28 am »
I don't know if re-in is a fact or fiction, but i know that when i was 9, i went through a period where i dreamt things i knew nothing about. After having these reoccur a couple times since i researched the time periods, i ahve come to these maybes:

I might have been an Egyptian guard during the building of the earliest modern pyramids.

I might have been a scottish bard during the middle ages.

I might have been a Victorian noble woman in the court at Versiles.

I may have been a Cuban peasant during the last century.

and, i may have been a child in New Orleans during the 20's: this one actually died as a child.

Or, i could be dreaming.
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2005, 02:36:25 pm »
Yep, I believe in reincarnation (if you are meaning a soul recycles after it's shell --body-- expires).  I also beleive it's a soul's choice to come back to Earth ot to move on to somewhere else --whereever it is happiest going.

Past life experiences -- yeah I think there are people who can remember a bit of what shells their soul has inhabited before.  However, I don't think it's as common as many people would prefer you to beleive.  I feel it's a rare phenominon which is often imitated by those who deeply wish it had happened to them.

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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2005, 04:19:34 pm »
my opinion:

people who think they have had previous lives are deluded idiots, YOU LIVE ONCE AND ONCE ONLY that is fact, when you are dead there is no possible way to come back alive in a new body. the human mind is a impression given by the dischage of electrical and chemical signals in the brain there is no real detachable self that can live on in a literal manner.

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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2005, 07:25:13 pm »
Ackron even tho it may not be your belief that such is possible I do ask you to be respectful to others.

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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2005, 10:22:21 pm »
In my previous life I believe I was a dragon that had the power to transform into any livin creature.
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« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2005, 10:41:23 pm »
not sure of furryness in a past life. But I have a strong feeling I was a cruel man with power and responsible for deaths of many. Odd huh? Makes me wonder
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« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2005, 10:51:03 pm »
Hmmm, wish I was lucky enough to remember my past lives. 'Twould be very cool and enlightening. While it is unprovable, I believe it, but hey, it might or might not be true. They say seeing is believing, but maybe some things you need to believe before you can see?

As for religious questions, gosh I wish I could figure the whole thing out! I'm so confused! ':shock:'  ':p'

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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2005, 12:35:09 am »
Reincarnation?  I don't believe in it.  

Which is kind of sad, really, because I think its an awesome idea.  I wish, and I *hope* there is a life after this one.  I do hope I'm wrong.  I really do.

But there is no scientific evidence supporting such, and as a scientist, I will remain in a state of disbelief until such evidence is provided.  As much as I hate to say it: I believe reincarnation is a state of wishful thinking on our part, and is more or less as fallacious as any other religious belief.

Which, if anything, is all the more reason why we should live each day to the last.

But again: This is one thing I would absolutely love to be wrong about.


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« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2005, 12:03:20 pm »
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Ackron even tho it may not be your belief that such is possible I do ask you to be respectful to others.


just because i think people are idiots for beleiving nonsense it dosent mean i dont respect them. the best of people have tricked themselves in to thinking rubbish is true, gemeran scientists during the second world war seemed to think it took thousands of kilos of uranium to make a atomic bomb dosent mean they werent clever.

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« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2005, 09:45:13 pm »
Religion and science together are chaos ':p' I side with science personally
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« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2005, 08:05:20 am »
agreed theres far less sillyness in science. unless its very cold or very small. spirituality in my opinion is total rubbish. none of it has ever been proven true through scientific means which probably means it is untrue.

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« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2005, 05:27:35 am »
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agreed theres far less sillyness in science. unless its very cold or very small. spirituality in my opinion is total rubbish. none of it has ever been proven true through scientific means which probably means it is untrue.

Untrue as a universal concept, but each person tends to create their own definition of what really is true to them. And, there is plenty silliness in the history of science: there was not proof for the Ether, but people believed it because it "had" to be true.
Science started as a way to better know God through the world around us.
  This is coming from a scientist. And, obviously, our interpretation of what "science" is is also different.
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« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2005, 06:40:32 am »
50% of science is theory same goes for religion prove to me the theory of singlearity at the point of a black hole not theory l want to see it answer you cant  same goes for god prove his/her existance the only way is to die and l'll wait for that.every one needs to belive in something  science religion what ever we should all respect thier beliefs even if we dont agree with them
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