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Re: 2 bombs detonate at Boston Marathon
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2013, 06:56:19 pm »
Someone has made snarky comments hoping that this dastardly deed is the work of some white reactionary trying to derail gun control or immigration reform. Just like during the DC Sniper's reign of terror.
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Re: 2 bombs detonate at Boston Marathon
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2013, 10:28:35 pm »
the blast was actually focused low theres a picture that showed atleast 50 people lost there leg"s so they werent using small shrapnel atleast larger like about marbel sized metal things plus the speed might be like 120 feet per second of the shrapnel which is devastating to flesh and bone
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Re: 2 bombs detonate at Boston Marathon
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2013, 03:23:05 am »
It's been a very hectic night for law enforcement.  Details are still mixed, but concrete news stories should be available tomorrow.  

A police officer was shot at MIT and died in the hospital...no one knows if this is connected to the Boston events yet.  MIT campus was put on lock-down.  After this, there was a car jacking at a gas station near the MIT campus, both occupants armed, who were apparently chased to Watertown, MA, around 5 miles away.  The FBI and Cambridge Bomb Squad were also on the scene as there were reports of shootings, live bombs, grenades, and explosions, and as I am writing this, the suspect is still at large.  It seems that the scene has moved to the Arsenal Mall.  Hopefully this violence will end soon.

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Re: 2 bombs detonate at Boston Marathon
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2013, 05:54:47 am »
Classes are cancelled at MIT, and they closed the MBTA (subway and public transportation).  Boston and Cambridge, along with all the surrounding towns, are essentially shut down at the moment as around 9000 officers attempt to capture the remaining suspect.


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Classes are cancelled at MIT, and they closed the MBTA (subway and public transportation).  Boston and Cambridge, along with all the surrounding towns, are essentially shut down at the moment as around 9000 officers attempt to capture the remaining suspect.



and this is exactly what they want

no one pays attention to the quiet tragedy of a hobo freezing to death under a bridge...until it was worked out that he was a millionaire and he gets on the news
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and this is exactly what they want

You are right about that.

Here are pictures from Watertown, completely locked down at the moment:





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Re: Boston on lockdown
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2013, 09:26:20 am »
This is what I read on my local news website this morning.

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WATERTOWN, Mass. - MSNBC reports that two people have been taken into custody during the search for the surviving suspect in the Boston marathon bombings after a long night of violence that left another suspect dead.

The suspects killed an MIT police officer and hurled explosives at police in a car chase and gun battle overnight that left one of them dead and his brother on the loose, authorities said Friday as thousands of officers swarmed the streets in a manhunt that all but paralyzed the Boston area.

The suspects were identified by law enforcement officials and a family member as Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, brothers from a Russian region near Chechnya, which has been plagued by an Islamic insurgency that has carried out deadly bombings.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who had been known to the FBI as Suspect No. 1 and was seen in surveillance footage in a black baseball cap, was killed overnight, officials said. His 19-year-old brother -- dubbed Suspect No. 2 and seen wearing a white, backward baseball cap in the images from Monday's deadly bombing at the marathon finish line -- escaped.

The law enforcement officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the unfolding case.

Authorities in Boston suspended all mass transit and warned close to 1 million people in the entire city and some of its suburbs to stay indoors as the hunt went on. Businesses were asked not to open. People waiting at bus and subway stops were told to go home.

"We believe this man to be a terrorist," said Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis. "We believe this to be a man who's come here to kill people."

The bombings on Monday killed three people and wounded more than 180 others, tearing off limbs in a spray of shrapnel and instantly raising the specter of another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

The endgame -- at least for Suspect No. 1 -- came just hours after the FBI released photos and video of the two young men at the finish line and appealed to the public for help in identifying and capturing them. Tips came pouring in to the FBI immediately, but exactly how authorities managed to close in on the two young men was not immediately disclosed.

The men's' uncle, Ruslan Tsarni of Montgomery Village, Md., told The Associated Press that the men lived together near Boston and had been in the U.S. for about a decade. They traveled here together from the Russian region near Chechnya.

The White House said President Barack Obama was being briefed on developments overnight by Lisa Monaco, his assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism.

The images released by the FBI depict the two young men walking one behind the other near the finish line. Richard DesLauriers, FBI agent in charge in Boston, said Suspect No. 2 in the white hat was seen setting down a bag at the site of the second of two deadly explosions.

Authorities said surveillance tape recorded late Thursday showed Suspect No. 2 during a robbery of a convenience store in Cambridge, near the campus of MIT, where a university police officer was shot to death while responding to a report of a disturbance, said State Police Col Timothy Alben.

From there, authorities said, the two men carjacked a man in a Mercedes-Benz, keeping him with them in the car for half an hour before releasing him at a gas station in Cambridge. The man was not injured.

The search for the vehicle led to a chase that ended in Watertown, where authorities said the suspects threw explosive devices from the car and exchanged gunfire with police. A transit police officer was seriously injured during the chase, authorities said.

In Watertown, witnesses reported hearing multiple gunshots and explosions at about 1 a.m. Friday. Dozens of police officers and FBI agents were in the neighborhood and a helicopter circled overhead.

Watertown resident Christine Yajko said she was awakened at about 1:30 a.m. by a loud noise, began to walk to her kitchen and heard gunfire.

"I heard the explosion, so I stepped back from that area, then I went back out and heard a second one," she said. "It was very loud. It shook the house a little."

She said a police officer later knocked on her door and told her there was an undetonated improvised explosive device in the street and warned her to stay away from the windows.

"It was on the street, right near our kitchen window," she said.

State police spokesman David Procopio said: "The incident in Watertown did involve what we believe to be explosive devices possibly, potentially, being used against the police officers."

Boston cab driver Imran Saif said he was standing on a street corner at a police barricade across from a diner when he heard an explosion.

"I heard a loud boom and then a rapid succession of pop, pop, pop," he said. "It sounded like automatic weapons. And then I heard the second explosion."

He said he could smell something burning and advanced to check it out but area residents at their windows yelled at him, "Hey, it's gunfire! Don't go that way!"

Doctors at a Boston hospital where Suspect No. 1 died said they treated a man with a possible blast injury and multiple gunshot wounds.

In the past, insurgents from Chechnya and neighboring restive provinces in the Caucasus have been involved in terror attacks in Moscow and other places in Russia.

Those raids included a raid in Moscow in October 2002 in which a group of Chechen militants took 800 people hostage and held them for two days before special forces stormed the building, killing all 41 Chechen hostage-takers. Also killed were 129 hostages, mostly from effects of narcotic gas Russian forces used to subdue the attackers.

Chechen insurgents also launched a 2004 hostage-taking raid in the southern Russian town of Beslan, where they took hundreds of hostages. The siege ended in a bloodbath two days later, with more than 330 people, about half of them children, killed.

Insurgents from Chechnya and other regions also have launched a long series of bombings in Moscow and other cities in Russia. An explosion at the international arrivals hall at Moscow's Domodedovo airport in January 2011 killed at least 31 people and wounded more than 140.
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Re: Boston on lockdown
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2013, 11:41:42 am »
To the best of my knowledge and understanding, the U.S. has no active military involvement in Chechnya and the Islamic extremeists located there. So I don't understand why the Boston suspects did what they did and target U.S. citizens/soil? I did read somewhere this morning (but can no longer find the link) that there may instead be domestic reasons for the attack. I read somewhere that one of the brothers may have had college/university issues and that he was having trouble making friends.
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Re: Boston on lockdown
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2013, 12:16:25 pm »
Frustration can lead to violence. It's possible the older brother
had some experience or training in terrorism, and possibly used it
for his own ends with help from his younger brother.

We tend to forget that if one wishes it's not hard to create a
lot of vioence with creative planning. Now unfortuantly there is
information on the internet to help anyone learn how to do the
same.

I wish the media would refrain from identifying people by name
who do violence. The last thing they deserve is world recognition.
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Re: Boston on lockdown
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2013, 01:02:16 pm »
I just heard that one of the bombers is dead and the other is still on the run. Here's an article with photos http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston

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Police ARE looking for a gray Honda CRV, perhaps now in Connecticut, in which suspect may have fled. MA tags 316 ES9. Tips call 1-800-CALL-FBI.
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Re: Watertown - Police have apparently surrounded the suspect
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Re: Boston terror suspect in custody
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2013, 08:50:57 pm »
The suspect is now in custody.  

He was found in the boat in the back of this house:

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Re: Boston terror suspect in custody
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2013, 12:41:02 am »
I'm so glad at least this part of the incident is over...hopefully everything can progress back to normal.

I find it amazing though that all this was caused by 2 people, and in the final day of this scare, the suspect was only 19...

Anyways, a big thanks to everyone involved (police officers, emergency responders, medical services, FBI, etc...) for all of their brave efforts in quickly putting a stop to this incident and keeping the people of Boston and the surrounding areas safe.
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Re: Boston on lockdown
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2013, 05:59:26 pm »
To the best of my knowledge and understanding, the U.S. has no active military involvement in Chechnya and the Islamic extremeists located there. So I don't understand why the Boston suspects did what they did and target U.S. citizens/soil? I did read somewhere this morning (but can no longer find the link) that there may instead be domestic reasons for the attack. I read somewhere that one of the brothers may have had college/university issues and that he was having trouble making friends.

If it's anything to do with where they came from I would guess it's just religious extremism they grew up with there, rather than something to do with Chechnya (it does say they're from somewhere 'near' Chechnya, not the Chechen Republic itself).
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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2013, 09:09:10 pm »
Frankly, I'm impressed the police and NG put up such an effort and still haven't caught this jerk o.o That sheer volume of people against one man? That's impressive that this guy's holding out. Sure, we've had entire armies after people, but they had followers who we had to put down as well. Not saying I like, or respect, the people who did this, but part of it is impressive. But given how sloppy this "Evidence" was covered up, they are either telling some big BS story to the public, or the last man standing of the two is one godlike stealthman.

Edit; Wait, what? They caught him? Wow, I need to read these posts better >.<'
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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2013, 09:37:06 pm »
Frankly, I'm impressed the police and NG put up such an effort and still haven't caught this jerk o.o That sheer volume of people against one man? That's impressive that this guy's holding out. Sure, we've had entire armies after people, but they had followers who we had to put down as well. Not saying I like, or respect, the people who did this, but part of it is impressive. But given how sloppy this "Evidence" was covered up, they are either telling some big BS story to the public, or the last man standing of the two is one godlike stealthman.

Edit; Wait, what? They caught him? Wow, I need to read these posts better >.<'

They caught him 24 hours ago...

It only took one day for them to catch the suspect after reports of seeing him...about five days since he actually bombed the Boston Marathon.  I actually think this is a great example of the security present at the moment, and I'm actually glad that most people complied with the lockdown, that way the police could do their job effectively.  The reason why it took longer than it did (at least, according to what I heard) was because the police set up a search perimeter in Watertown, but apparently, he was hiding just one block beyond that perimeter.

And yes, some may call that impressive, but I think it is much more impressive that after only a few days, police determined, found, and apprehended a very likely suspect (if not the culprit), a suspect who was using explosives against police as well (which is very rare for police to deal with).  I also think it is very impressive that police managed to essentially shutdown the Boston area for a day (also due to people's impressive compliance to stay indoors)...you need to look at the pictures to see that this is not an exaggeration.  I haven't ever heard of police shutting down a large metro area just to catch one guy.

They caught him because of an impressive and organized operation upon the suspect's initial instigation.  I mean, you really look at the guy, and he looks just like any other college student in the area.  

The joke about MIT students is that we live in a bubble and don't care about what goes on beyond that bubble...we just study.  Friday was the first time in my knowledge (about two years) that people stopped studying and just watched the news all day (or listened to police scanners).
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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2013, 09:54:01 pm »
I didn't hear any news; I was playing Halo 4 all day.

Selfish, yes, but it's not like I watch TV. Or own a slagging computer.
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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2013, 10:01:15 pm »
I didn't hear any news; I was playing Halo 4 all day.

Lol, that is pretty much MIT ("I didn't hear any news, I was studying all day" :P)

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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2013, 06:56:56 pm »
Okay,  So apparently officials are now saying that he was unarmed in the boat (despite earlier stories of the police recounting the deadly firefight,  and news officials being rushed AWAY from the scene because, "They were in the crossfire,")


So to recap,  they shot a college student in the neck and riddled the boat he was hiding in with holes until it looked like Swiss cheese,  all while he was completely unarmed and pretty-much helpless.  He certainly didn't fire the first shot...

His father was right to beg the US government not to shoot his son.    /not happy
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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2013, 12:44:30 pm »
So what. lets not forget what he did, he knew the consequences of his actions. you really think the piece of dirt deserves anything more than his basic rights?
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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2013, 01:57:06 pm »
you really think the piece of dirt deserves anything more than his basic rights?

No, but NOT having the basic rights is the problem.

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Re: Terror in Boston: April 15-20, 2013
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2013, 07:50:23 pm »
So what. lets not forget what he did, he knew the consequences of his actions. you really think the piece of dirt deserves anything more than his basic rights?

I thought he was a ~suspect~? What happened to innocent until proven guilty and a fair trial and all that jazz?

And surely basic rights include not being shot unprovoked by police? >.>