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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #150 on: May 29, 2016, 09:47:33 pm »
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I have a feeling a lot of the crap D'Trump says is playing those that support em.

Of course it is! He's toying with people's emotions and playing on their fears to gain support for himself.
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #151 on: June 19, 2016, 07:00:02 pm »
Trump was not my first choice, but he does have the endorsement of the National Rifle Association.

Hilrod, who pledges to put coal miners in the unemployment lines, received the AFL-CIO's support. Mrs. Bill also wants Australia-style gun confiscation, but perhaps she is playing to a certain fear-mongering constituency.
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #152 on: June 19, 2016, 07:11:34 pm »
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Bill also wants Australia-style gun confiscation,

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #153 on: June 21, 2016, 02:41:20 pm »
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Bill also wants Australia-style gun confiscation,

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http://forums.furtopia.org/debate-forum/gun-control/

Mrs. Bill...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvcWePEsg94
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #154 on: June 22, 2016, 04:04:19 am »
Can I ask a question.

I know why Donald Trump is evil, but what exactly is wrong with Hillary Clinton.  I know people say she's bad but never explain why, all I really know about her is that she's wife of Bill Clinton

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #155 on: June 22, 2016, 11:27:10 am »
Can I ask a question.

I know why Donald Trump is evil, but what exactly is wrong with Hillary Clinton.  I know people say she's bad but never explain why, all I really know about her is that she's wife of Bill Clinton

What's wrong? For starters, this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #156 on: June 26, 2016, 12:56:52 pm »
It seems Trump is more interested in running his business than being president. He
should let others take care of it till after the election. Makes one wonder if he is going
to give the job of president his ful attention or not?

I heard on "Meet the Press"  Trump has legally used campain funds to pay hisself and
his businesses over 6 million dollars..  Interesting in that he said he was going to pay
all his own bills unlike others.  :P
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #158 on: July 16, 2016, 12:30:14 pm »
Trump picks Mike Pence for VP.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/politics/donald-trump-vice-presidential-choice/index.html

Yep that he did. At least the presumptive one.  Guess Trump is worried the conservatives
will stay home if he doesn't show he is one..  I understand Gov Pence is Mr conservative,
and very religious. At least someone Trump can live with. 

I hear he doesn't like gays, or transgeders, ect.. He is against womens reproductive health
care, unless it's to make sure pregnant women have their kids.

Trump/Pence a match made for the religious right I guess.  Hopefully those who care
about the rights of others do do get out and vote this fall.
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2016, 09:24:50 am »
Trump incites violence.  >:(

This is not the first violent act to be done, nor is it the last. This is just one example I woke up to this morning while reading the news. If this is what it takes to gain support from people and become President, then I'm outta this messed up country.  >:( Trump and his supporters can kiss my fluffy tail and go to hell! The Texas family didn't deserve this. The dog didn't have to die.

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2016, 10:19:54 pm »
ok that is a little too much... still doesn't change my opinion on who i like more though. also how the hell did they get access to the dog? if you just leave your dog outside that kinda being a bad owner.. if that happened to a child people would likely be yelling at them saying how did they even get access to your child.

though one thing is i have some very large doubts about if that new article/report is true. all the media seems to be siding with hillary, and it might be a completely made up story.

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #161 on: August 27, 2016, 10:54:10 am »
Trump has hired a leader of the Extreeme right to help run his campain. Trump claims to not
be racist then he hires a racist that has no business in politics much less government.

He can say what he wants about Clinton, but when he associate hisself with bad
people some of it is going to rub off on him. It will make it harder for the victims
of hate groups to  believe anything he says.

Trump should never associate with people who hate others for their race, religion or lifestyle,
much less hire them. It's a matter of record that Trump has discriminated against people of
color in the past. If he has changed he isn't doing a good job of showing it. Talk is cheap, lets
see the action.

 
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #162 on: September 01, 2016, 11:30:52 am »
As much as I dislike Trump, I think the fact that he hasn't been essentially convicted of half the crimes he's been accused of is enough to justify his presidency in the face of Hillary as an alternative. Given there's an Independent who's actually not doing too bad though, and who offers some (painful, but fairly reasonable) compromise between both sides, I'm going with Gary Johnson so long as he's still in the race when voting comes. I'm tired of the same old "right vs left" bologna - let's introduce a little anarchy. *Joker laugh*
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #163 on: September 06, 2016, 09:28:55 pm »
Maybe Scooby Doo for president? :D  NY doesn't allow write-in votes, so I couldn't do this if I wanted to.






Holt - Gary Johnson will be on the ballot, but he's not likely to get into the debates unforunately.  I ended up voting for him in 2012 because I didn't want 4 more years of Obama, and Romney I felt didn't get what the common people wanted out of a president.
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #164 on: September 07, 2016, 07:35:33 pm »
ok that is a little too much... still doesn't change my opinion on who i like more though. also how the hell did they get access to the dog? if you just leave your dog outside that kinda being a bad owner.. if that happened to a child people would likely be yelling at them saying how did they even get access to your child.

though one thing is i have some very large doubts about if that new article/report is true. all the media seems to be siding with hillary, and it might be a completely made up story.

My post wasn't meant to "convert" you, Graywolf. It's more to show you and others what Donald Trump's rhetoric is causing people to do in this country. As I said, this isn't the first violent act to be done, and nor will it be the last. Trump's tone, demeanor, rhetoric, character, basically everything about him, is causing people to say, do, and act in ways that are "not in the best interests" of this country.
All this political squabbling, arguing, bickering, fighting, and now violence, is pitting American against American.
Mother against Father.
Parents against Grandparents.
Brother against Sister.
Uncle against Aunt.
Cousin against Nephew.
Friend against friend.
Neighbor against neighbor.
..........etc., etc., etc.

This whole political election has just turned into one big nasty mess. And does DT care about the consequences of his actions? Hell no. I used to think we Americans were better than this. That we would be more sensible and not let all this "fear mongering and hate rhetoric" get the better of us. But I guess I was wrong. Never before in history has a political election been this bad and has riled people's emotions up to the point where violent acts are the new "show your support" for a candidate. It's completely disgusting.   >:(

I'm scared. Not for if DT does get to be President, but rather for what will happen AFTER he becomes President (If he does.). Trump's rhetoric and actions are totally unbecoming a Presidential candidate. And if he continues his foul mouthed rhetoric and actions after becoming President, it'll be unbecoming a President. I thought there were rules and/or laws on how Presidential candidates should act and such? If so, why aren't they being enforced? Why hasn't Trump been taken out of the running for President?

Trump's whole conduct and attitude is soooooooo not how a President should act. As children, we were all taught or we heard, etc. that children tend to imitate things they see and hear as they grow up. As I said, I fear for what this nation, or better yet, the American public, will turn into if Trump gets into office. Already, people are starting to think that "If it's good enough for Trump, then it's good enough for me." or "If Trump can do or get away with it, then so can I."    This is a very bad attitude to take. What kind of message will we be sending future generations of children if we let these bad behaviors go unchecked? Do we really want more future generations of bigots?

I don't like Trump. But I also don't like Clinton. But if I had to vote, I'd choose Clinton over Trump. Why? What the hell has Trump done for this country? What experience does he have? The only "experience" he seems to have is shooting his damn mouth off!  >:( All he ever does is whine and complain about Hillary Clinton, the email scandal, and a few other select things. Ok, I get it. Hillary did bad with the Benghazi/email stuff. I don't need to hear any more about it. Enough already. What I DO want to hear more about is Trump's positions on the following. This can include, but is not limited to the following:
Abortion
Social Security
Medicare
Unemployment
Raising the Federal minimum wage.
College tuition.
Environmental issues.
Global warming.
Trade with China.
Immigration (Get off the "build a wall" soapbox. I want to hear a REAL plan.)
..........and so much more.

Where are these issues being talked about? I never see them. Like I said, all I ever hear is DT badmouthing Clinton time after time after time after time after time after......... :P  When are we going to get to the issues that matter most to Americans? And does DT have any REAL experience with handling any of these issues? The guy is a "businessman". Not a politician. Is doing business by building and operating golf courses, hotels, and casinos qualify him enough to run a country?
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #165 on: September 08, 2016, 03:46:03 am »
btw kobuk i have been hearing the same things from hillary (attacking trump) i have checked her twitter page and all she does is complain about trump (says a few other things but many are against trump) also i cant go a day without seeing a few hillary commercials just constantly insulting trump/saying he is going to be bad as a president. i have listened to a few speeches from trump and i barely hear about the wall he is going to build or anything about hillary. it usually ends with him just saying "and yes we will build a wall" and maybe a few times him saying stuff about hillary, but from what iv seen he is mostly ignoring hillary now.

as for the way americans are acting blame the people not trump. im glad that trump is actually exposing what they are like (even if they are bad) and as for the children thing. well its going to be the parent's fault if the children turn out undesirable.

and as for what iv heard trump isnt going to do much with minimum wage but he is going to lower small business taxes down to 15% from 35% (me planning on becoming an indie game developer that would be pretty helpful) also lower taxes mean companies can hire more people. and for immigration iv heard he is pretty much just going to do what obama has been doing (deporting, and better boarder patrol) as for syrians trump wants to build aid camps in the middle east and keep them over there instead of bringing them into america. trump doesnt have much to say about the environment, and healthcare (besides getting rid of obama care), so im not sure about those.

while he isnt exactly qualified to for the job i'd rather have him than hillary who blames deaths on guns, thinks bringing more syrians into the US is a good thing, thinks building massive amounts of solar panels is a good thing (the process to make them is harmful to the environment unless you are willing to spend millions/billions on a less harmful process), thinks racism is a big problem (listen to cops if you dont want to die), is making money of foreign donations (while trump might manufacture things in other countries, it seems most of his money is from property in the US), all the random health problems (she doesnt even talk about them), changing her mind on things then lying about her previous opinion (gay marriage, wars, ect), her strange hate/constant blaming of russia (when there isnt even any proof russia does anything she talks about economic/political/military action for the hacks that happened a few times), her email server (seriously just use the government appointed one and stop denying that you did anything).

and lets see what trump did.. not much prior experience, and saying mean things. we havent even given him a chance let but hillary has been around for awhile saying many bad things, having bad ideas, and just doing sketchy stuff. she has kinda had her chance and it doesnt seem that good.

hillary's ideas are just horrible, and she just keeps lying.

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #166 on: September 08, 2016, 12:46:10 pm »
It always seems odd to me when people blaime the president for their problems. After
all it's the legislature that passes laws, and spends the tax dollars. Even if there isn't any to
spend.  The president may want a law or policy, but if congress doesn't support it. It's totally
dead on arrival.  Of course he can veto a bill, and it would take a two thirds vote in both houses
to overide it.

Beauricratic regulations are made by people who aren't elected or have any
thing to do with the president. They are hired by government agencies that
congress controls.

If we want change put different people in the congress ore senate. They have the
say on most everything that happens inside the country. The presidents work is mostly
outside the country.

The main thing I see between T and H is appointments to the federal court system.
Trump will likely appoint conservatives, and Hilary more liberal. Conservatives tend
to find excuses to limit human rights. To save money or because it's immoral.

Trump has no military experience. He is immensly rich, but he or his famly haven't
served in the military, or apparently doesn't pay taxes. It seems odd he is afraid
to release his tax record for this or the last few years.

He went to Mexico and claims that shows he is a statesman. He seemed to be cowed
by the Mexican leader while there. Once home he was a bully again..To a  country that
presensts no military threat to the US. Diplomacy is the mark of a good leader. Not a two
faced bully trying to run over others.

He says we should take the oil from the middle east in payment for our help.  I can guarantee
we would need a huge military presence to accomplish such a thing. Also it would make
nearly everyone there hate us.  You know the Russians would help those countries against us.
Not counting China.

Another sign he knows little about how to work with foreign countries. Except by military threat.
I know it looks like we get stepped on more than not, but it would likely cost us much more to
be a bully in the world arena.

Clinton might not be a great choice for president, but when the only other real option is Trump,  I
think thoughtful consideration is warrented.
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #167 on: September 08, 2016, 01:06:51 pm »
yep.. again its a pretty hard decision on who is less worse. as for trump not knowing how to deal with foreign affairs, just today on the news i heard that he hired some people to help him learn about the stuff.

really hope trump isnt too bad if he gets presidency (and if he is hopefully he will get kicked out)

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #168 on: September 08, 2016, 01:24:55 pm »
yep.. again its a pretty hard decision on who is less worse. as for trump not knowing how to deal with foreign affairs, just today on the news i heard that he hired some people to help him learn about the stuff.

Here we are about 2 months from the election and Trump is "hiring" people to teach him and help him learn stuff for if he becomes President?  :o Heaven help us all! What a moron.  :P

really hope trump isnt too bad if he gets presidency (and if he is hopefully he will get kicked out)

Kicked out? Good luck on that. Even if Trump could be impeached out of the Presidency, how much you willing to bet he'll have some scheme or he'll "complain and whine" that nothing is his fault and that he didn't do any wrong?
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #169 on: September 08, 2016, 01:58:48 pm »
he has likely been doing research on stuff this whole time.. i doubt he would have been that stupid to have not tried to learn any of the stuff.

as for being kicked out we would just need to hope that it works. if he really screwed up bad he might be gone fast.


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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #170 on: September 08, 2016, 02:10:17 pm »
"Doing research" and "hiring people to help him learn" are poor substitutes for ACTUALLY having experience.........which Trump has none of.

Trump has no fiscal policy experience. No experience on military matters. No foreign policy experience. And the list goes on and on. So what EXACTLY can he bring to the Presidency? As I said, his only "claim to fame" so to speak is building and operating hotels, casinos, and golf courses. That hardly counts as "experience" in becoming a President and running a country.  :P
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #171 on: September 08, 2016, 02:18:21 pm »
i'd rather have someone with little experience but better ideas be in charge than someone with lots of experience but horrible ideas. from what iv seen trump's ideas are more logical than hillary's. not sure how he's gonna do it but i feel that he should at least get a chance (and he might cause less damage than hillary if he screwed up)

iv heard hillary making almost direct threats towards Russia. i'd rather not have someone like that in charge of the us (we really need to improve relations with Russia)

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #172 on: September 08, 2016, 03:18:53 pm »
i'd rather have someone with little experience but better ideas be in charge than someone with lots of experience but horrible ideas. from what iv seen trump's ideas are more logical than hillary's. not sure how he's gonna do it but i feel that he should at least get a chance (and he might cause less damage than hillary if he screwed up)

And how exactly is building a border wall to keep out Mexicans, or banning Muslims from entering the country "a better idea"? It's not. It's racism, Pure and simple, which we don't need more of in this country.

iv heard hillary making almost direct threats towards Russia. i'd rather not have someone like that in charge of the us (we really need to improve relations with Russia)

What threats? Cite your sources on this, please.
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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #173 on: September 08, 2016, 03:44:11 pm »
improving boarder security will keep more illegal immigrants out, and those people just bring crime, and drugs (not all of them though) and take jobs that Americans could have (hopefully they will actually take the job though) as for the wall i doubt its actually going to be an expensive large wall (might just go from chain link to sheet metal)

i doubt there will actually be a ban on Muslims, but Syrian refugees are likely going to be kept out (they are causing a mess in Europe so i don't want them here)

also trump seems more interested in money than being racist so i dont think racism is much of a reason.

link:http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/clinton-us-should-use-military-response-fight-cyberattacks-russia-china-1579187#
i dont know how good the article is, but i saw a video of her saying something like that. with a country as large as Russia i don't think saying stuff like that is a good idea. (also automatically assuming its the russian government. who knows.. it could just be some 25 year old hacker in some basement in Russia)

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Re: Donald Trump: Worst candidate for President.
« Reply #174 on: September 10, 2016, 11:56:13 am »
Another year marks a aniversery for the 911 attack on the
trade center twin towers in New York City. 

I think Trump did visit the memorial last year. He said he lost
100's of friends that tragic day. Odd thing though no one ever
saw him at one funeral or wake of any victim.  He claimed he watched
people jump while watching from a window in the Trump Tower. He must
have eagle eyes, it would have been hard to catch a glimps of someone
falling even with field glasses, as he would have been 4 miles away. A news
man said he had a hard time seeing them fall from near the base of the towers.
He offered 10 thousand for a donation soon after, but no donation was recorded.
Though lately he had his foundation write a check for 100,000.00.. Even that
wasn't his own money. He claimed he saw 1000's of Moslems cheering, but
none were seen.

H Clinton on the other hand has worked to help first responders,
and the families of the victims, and spent time with them.
I don't know how many times she has been to the memorial, but not
only for publicity, as Trump did.

You would think Trump being such a fan of the people of New York
and the city, he would have been honest about this one thing.
People died and Trump lies trying to look like he cares.
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