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First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« on: September 14, 2015, 08:03:00 am »
Yup, that's right. A guy is set to have his head transplanted onto a different body in just two years.

The guy in question? 30-year old Russian computer scientist Valery Spiridonov, who has Werdnig-Hoffman disease (aka a form of spinal muscular atrophy). He has volunteered to have the chance at having a healthy body and a normal life.

The operation may take a full day to perform, during which time Spiridonov's head will be cooled by 10-15C, and the window of time for removing his head and getting blood flow restored is incredibly small:
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'We will have an hour to 'switch' the head to a different body. You need a few minutes to join blood vessels. Valery's head will be detached from his body and transferred to another one in a matter of seconds, and brain's blood flow will start in about 15 minutes.'

Spiridonov  is understandably nervous about the procedure:
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'Am I afraid? Yes, of course I am. But it is not just very scary, but also very interesting. '

He stressed: 'I do understand the risks of such surgery. They are multiple. We can't even imagine what exactly can go wrong. I'm afraid that I wouldn't live long enough to see it happen to someone else. If I want this kind of surgery to happen, I shouldn't put the responsibility onto someone else but should try it on myself.

His family is in full support of him.

Head transplants have been performed on other species with a degree of success - 50 years ago, a rhesus monkey had its head transplanted onto another body. It loved for 9 days before the body rejected the head (now there is the most horrifying sentence I have read all week). Other scientists have transplanted literally thousands of mice heads from one body to another.

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What do people think about this? If it succeeds, it will be a great medical breakthrough. It could restore normal lives to so many people who have been disabled from birth, including those like Spiridonov, whose disease is often an early death sentence. The amount of technical skill needed is huge, the risks are massive, but success has the potential to bring so much joy to so many.

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Links:
http://www.iflscience.com/human-head-transplant
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/head-transplant-volunteer-might-face-fate-more-terrifying-death
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3117029/I-m-not-going-crazy-cut-head-Disabled-man-volunteering-HEAD-transplant-meet-surgeon-time-tomorrow-insists-ll-knife-99-possible.html

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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 09:19:49 am »
So.... if he is going to get his head transplanted to someone else's body... then who is that person? O.o Maybe someone who is "brain dead"?

Also, I'm pretty sure there was an x-files episode about this topic.

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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 09:57:41 am »
The body will be from a donor who is already dead, just like with organ donors.

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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 11:54:15 am »
I would think the spinal cord connection would be the most difficult part of
the surgery. There must be hundreds perhaps thousands of of nerve paths
to reconnect. Or possibly misconnect.  :o

The body depends on many autonomic impulses from the brain. So those
would need immediate connection.

If that's not the case perhaps it will become common in the future. They
might be able to clone a mindless body from the persons own cells for the
purpose..

I would think it would be better to store the memory and personality of a
person then transfer it to a clone, or an android. After all the head may retain
some of he illness, and give it to the new body. Certinly would be safer. Now if
we can find a way to transfer memory, and personality.  :P  Might end up being
easier to transplant a head.

Of course the persuit of giving individuals a normal life is a fine idea. But
in the end everything dies or changes form. I wonder if man will be better off
extending life. Only time will tell.
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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 08:37:38 pm »
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Also, I'm pretty sure there was an x-files episode about this topic.

You mean the movie, right?

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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 11:11:44 pm »
This would definitely be very interesting to follow up on. There are a lot of things that may go wrong, but would would happen to the guy's mental state?

Also, imagine being that guy. How would you feel waking up with a new body? :o
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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2015, 09:09:41 am »
I've little to no faith that this will work.
There's so many variables in a medical experiment like that, I don't know where to begin.

It would be a miraculous breakthrough if it actually works.
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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2015, 12:38:10 am »
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Also, I'm pretty sure there was an x-files episode about this topic.

You mean the movie, right?

"The X-Files: I want to Believe"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X-Files:_I_Want_to_Believe
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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2015, 01:16:06 pm »
Perhaps adding ones head to a volunteer or animal subject might work. Perhaps even to a Pig. I understand
pigs can live with human blood. At least for a while. That would be rather weird though, having a pig body.  :o
Maybe a Chimpanzee instead.

Of course there would likely be much turmoil with two heads on one human body. So I doubt if that would
ever work, at least for long.
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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 07:57:06 am »
Erm,

What's he transplanting to?  When they did these tests with the Monkey and Mice, were they just switching heads in both direction or did they kill of one then switch heads.  0.o

Aside from that ultimately disturbing thought of murder.  There is allot to think about.

Genetics being the top with blood type, allergies, etc, hereditary illnesses.

My biggest problem with this though is that we have Macs, we have PCs, we have Linux, we have yet to create completely harmony on our man made systems to be totally compatible with one another....

I think for Moral reasons definitely but other reasons, this is not only a bad idea, but a foolish chaotic science

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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 07:59:37 am »
"last century attempts with dogs and monkeys resulted in animals who survived for a few days, though a more recent mouse head transplant showed that it was basically possible. "I think we are now at a point when the technical aspects are all feasible," Canavero says."

Erm....Thats not feasible

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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2015, 01:25:06 pm »
I have very, very low hopes that this procedure will work. In fact, I'm pretty much against it. I hope it never gets done simply for moral and ethical reasons.
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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2015, 01:09:55 pm »
This sounds medically absurd, extraordinarily dangerous, and I feel kind of bad for the ill volunteer. I'd be shocked it if it worked for even an hour.

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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2015, 01:06:26 pm »
Who knows what may be taking place in hidden labs around the
world. But if there is a way you can be sure some rich dude would
be willing to pay for it, on the chance it might work. Rather than
giving themselves up to the grim reaper.  Even if it meant stealing
someones body.. :o
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Re: First head transplant scheduled for 2017
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2015, 11:25:44 am »
I remember when I was in high school and first read about a peculiar but interesting experiment from many many years ago, here have a read: (From scribol)

"It was widely reported in the media, that a Soviet scientist in the late 1920s by the name of Sergei Brukhonenko actually managed to keep the severed head of a dog alive. The dog’s head was reportedly connected to a primitive heart-lung machine called an “autojector” (or that’s what the inventor dubbed it). The device supposedly gives the head everything it needs to maintain life.

Brukhonenko presented a similar experiment in 1928 at an international scientific conference, at the Third Congress of Psysiologists of the USSR. However, his science has often been questioned. As proof of his dog experiment and to show that the head wasn’t just part of the corpse, a video follows where Brukhonenko does a series of tests. He shines a light in dog’s eyes making it blink. He hits the table with a hammer and the dog’s head reacts. And last but not least, to make things even more gross, he feeds the dog head a small piece of cheese, which lands on the table at the other end of the esophageal tube."


There are videos of it working, but I doubt you'd be the happier for seeing them. : P

If he wrote a Scientific paper on this i'd love to read it though.
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