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3 mass shootings in one week!
« on: August 04, 2019, 09:43:24 am »
I think I'm ready to move to Canada now. Somebody stop the world. I want to get off.


Gun violence. It never ends.  :'(

20 people dead and about 2 dozen more injured in El Paso, Texas on Saturday.
Then hours later early Sunday morning, about 10 people dead and another 2 dozen injured in Dayton, Ohio.
These two incidents are mere HOURS apart!  :o

WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING IN AMERICA?!  :o


https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-shooting/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/el-paso-tx-shooting-live-updates/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ohio-shooting/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayton-ohio-active-shooter/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/specials/us/guns

Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/gilroy-california-shooting-intl-hnk/index.html

You can definately be sure that in the next several days and weeks, Congress, particuarly the Democrats, are going to bring gun control back at the forefront of political issues that need solving.

My thoughts and comments from this thread still stand today as they pretty much did in the past.
https://forums.furtopia.org/debate-forum/the-topic-of-gun-control/
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2019, 06:53:55 pm »
What really grinds my gear is this response from our President.  >:(

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Asked what he was going to do to address gun violence, President Trump told reporters Sunday that “a lot of things are in the works” and claimed his administration has done “much more than most administrations.”

Oh really? Do tell.  :P *sarcasm*

Trump oversaw a ban on so-called bump stocks but has not pursued large-scale gun control efforts. His predecessor, Barack Obama, took dozens of executive actions on gun control, including on background checks and mental health.

Trump touted his administration’s work on the issue, saying, “We’ve done actually a lot but perhaps more has to be done.”

A lot? Like what? And what does he mean "perhaps"? That's almost like saying "Maybe" we'll do more.

Trump also said this is a “mental illness” problem.

Are you kidding me?  :o >:( Both of these mass shootings were HATE CRIMES.

Trump ignored other questions on the topic, including one on white nationalism.

^ Naturally. What else is new.  :P *more sarcasm*
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2019, 07:16:51 pm »
The man supports hate groups. He's not going to have anything bad to say about the people who support him. He will continue his 'rape, murderers and enemy combatant' rhetoric. Because he and the republican party who support him doesn't care how many Americans die. If you like at both the republican and fox's use of fear and anger you'll see a pattern. It's done to control their voter base. Just like in the past events like these will be twisted around and used in their favor.  He's also a blatant lier. His supporters AND the republican party have gone to great lengths to make excuses for his lies. Both him and the do nothing party needs to go.

VOTE.
 
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 07:59:50 pm »
This was the gun used by the shooter in Dayton, Ohio.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS TYPE OF WEAPON AND THE LARGE MAGAZINES TO BE ON THE STREETS OR FOR PEOPLE TO POSSESS THEM!  >:(



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Dayton police showed a photo and provided detail on the gun the suspect used in the attack.

Police Chief Richard Biehl told the media the weapon has a "double drum magazine" which has a capacity of up to 100 rounds.

Biehl said the gun was purchased legally. He said the gun was ordered online from Texas, then transferred to the suspect at a local firearms dealer in Ohio.

Biehl added that police weren't aware of anything "in this individual's history or record that would have precluded him from purchasing that weapon."

Asked by reporters about the legality of the large magazine, Biehl said there is "no indication that that is illegal at this time."

Biehl said the suspect fired "dozens" of shots during the shooting.
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 12:03:40 pm »
This is why say ban assault weapons to many imature idiots can get em too easy. I'm getting sick of seeing people bringing 30 round banana mags to hunt you only one bullet and these kids think because they play cod they can shoot I'm getting sick of it next time I see an ar15 or an ak I'll put em in the dirt and smash there guns its a privalige to own a gun not a right I'm done ranting I'll go cry
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2019, 01:04:23 am »
Told ya so.
"GOP lawmaker blames shootings on Obama, 'fatherlessness' and 'drag queen advocates'"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/politics/candice-keller-ohio-lawmaker-mass-shootings/index.html

These people are not cold in the ground yet and republicans are already lying. 

VOTE.
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2019, 01:25:10 pm »
Trump is always claiming he is better than any other president,
but the only thing he does is act like a big shot at his rally's,
lie, and cheat at golf.

The sooner he is out of the White House, the better off we all
will be. The only thing Trump should be doing is cleaning out
stalls at a race track.

It's so sad we have to see so much violence, when in this day
and age people should be save and secure. Not burying their
loved ones.

There is no perfect solution, but people don't need military type
weapons to defend their families. I know it's a free  country, but
we should make the same requirements to operate all dangerous
equipment. Be it firearms, cars, trucks, or anything else that can
cause serious injury to the user or the innocent. If people are
 caught in possession of such equipment while drunk or in the
influence of drugs, they should be treated the same as drunk
driver are.


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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2019, 02:30:42 pm »
Trump isn't the problem. he's the result of a problem.
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2019, 02:37:29 pm »
This was the gun used by the shooter in Dayton, Ohio.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS TYPE OF WEAPON AND THE LARGE MAGAZINES TO BE ON THE STREETS OR FOR PEOPLE TO POSSESS THEM!  >:(



I would call that image of the weapon and huge magazine... "over kill".  I do not know of a legitimate use for it in civilian life.
Even if it were used at a shooting range... heck.. with that many bullets you will hit the bullseye once just by random chance.  Doesn't mean you are any good or have any skill.  Anyone can spray lead long enough at a target to shred it.  Now hit the bullseye with one shot from 1/2 mile away in variable winds, ya you are something.

In a war zone, this machine may have use, yet it will be used by skilled people too.

My words to the mass killers out there...(none in Furtopia I bet)
The kind of people who go on killing sprees are total losers.  And that is coming from a loser. I mean, if you can't get a date, yeah that is sad I feel for ya.  If your looks are bad, yeah I get it.  If you are socially awkward, well I am worse.  And if you are unemployed, so am I.  But doesn't mean you can go take it out on others.  Whatever your issues, don't cause others to suffer for them. If you need help, ask for it.  You might be surprised who helps.

The kind of people who do these things are also the kind who can't  (or refuse to ) cry at scenes like in Disney's Fox and Hound where Mrs Tweed sends Tod off to the woods.  Now if that doesn't get you crying, you may be unable to feel empathy and sympathy.

Our country will not discuss and address mental health.  At DenFur, I was glad to hear it talked about!  And the fur community was very loving and kind.  I feel that us furs, if we were in the right place, could have changed the shooter into a better person just by being role models.

It is amazing how ones aches and pains, as well as failings and self doubt all dissolve when you know someone cares.
Yet it is hard to be loved when you are full of hate.

This is why say ban assault weapons to many imature idiots can get em too easy. I'm getting sick of seeing people bringing 30 round banana mags to hunt you only one bullet and these kids think because they play cod they can shoot I'm getting sick of it next time I see an ar15 or an ak I'll put em in the dirt and smash there guns its a privalige to own a gun not a right I'm done ranting I'll go cry

Charcoal sounds like you are a smart and responsible gun owner.  Ya it sucks when others ruin things for the rest. 

With great freedom comes great responsibility. 

Seems our country is forgetting to teach responsibility.
(people hate rules.  i had a neighbor who routinely trespassed by my windows so close I could reach out and grab him.  I talked to the father of the trespasser, and the father told me "we do not believe in rules, they are too restrictive to the soul".  I then told him to tell that to the cops, that i was going to restrict his soul till it screamed!)

America has gotten into a rut of believing that we all can just get what ever the heck we want , however we want it.  No one is teaching responsibility and being an adult.
Too many people are underdeveloped as a human, and just think it OK to take take take, and never give. 

AHHH
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2019, 03:42:17 pm »
Some good comments there, Jade. Well said. ;)


Told ya so.
"GOP lawmaker blames shootings on Obama, 'fatherlessness' and 'drag queen advocates'"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/politics/candice-keller-ohio-lawmaker-mass-shootings/index.html

These people are not cold in the ground yet and republicans are already lying. 

VOTE.

Haha! What a joke.  :D If that Repub lawmaker were in Wisconsin, I'd quickly vote her out of office.  :D
In my opinion, there is no single source for gun violence. People and organizations can make studies and spend money till their heart's content to try and find some sort of unifying theme or cause. But they will never find it because gun violence is a "combination" of various factors.
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2019, 06:16:41 pm »
I blame the media for glorifying these little pukes by showing they're pics and saying they're names and idiots are gonna fallow close behind I believe the victims names and pics should be the only one shown
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2019, 12:49:37 am »
More republican retoric.

Tucker Carlson tells his viewers that the country's white supremacy problem 'is a hoax'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/media/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-reliable-sources/index.html

Trump is the result of a problem.
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2019, 10:12:09 am »
More republican retoric.

Tucker Carlson tells his viewers that the country's white supremacy problem 'is a hoax'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/media/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-reliable-sources/index.html

Trump is the result of a problem.

Ignorance does breed stupidity.  :P
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2019, 11:13:51 am »
More republican retoric.

Tucker Carlson tells his viewers that the country's white supremacy problem 'is a hoax'

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/media/tucker-carlson-white-supremacy-reliable-sources/index.html

Trump is the result of a problem.


Carlson is smarter than that. He is just wanting to save his high paid
cushy job. He and others who put money over the good of the country
should be ashamed. Instead of backing Trump he should resign.
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2019, 02:49:05 pm »
Carlson is no different than any other on fox news network. Undermining our county one lie at a time.
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2019, 03:05:32 pm »
And this is why you will never see more gun control measures now or in the future from Congress and/or the President: Because they always listen to the NRA.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/08/politics/trump-nra-wayne-lapierre-guns-background-checks/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/09/reality-check-dems-calling-mcconnell-bring-back-senate-gun-reform-avlon-newday-vpx.cnn


Stupid move by Walmart. Video games are not the "sole" reason for gun violence.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/business/walmart-violent-video-games/index.html
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2019, 10:44:28 am »
Some people may want to stay away and stop shopping at Walmart.  :o
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/11/us/walmart-store-threats/index.html
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Re: 3 mass shootings in one week!
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2019, 07:08:04 pm »
Listen walmarts not gonna be effected at all trust me and this song sums it all up https://youtu.be/6dixPDujD2g
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