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A possible government shutdown.

President Trump said in the past that the president is responsible
for any government shutdown. Guess what? He doesn't agree with
that now. The GOP and Trump are playing politics by saying this is
due to  the Democrats when Trump caused it by claiming he would
sign a bipartisan bill to fund government. He then changed his mind
backed up leaving the GOP wondering what to do.

Of course the GOP and Trump want to blaime the Democrats. They say
lets fund government now and talk later. The Democrats know that
the "LATER" never arrives. The GOP and Trump are using these kick the
can down the road funding is just them trying to push their agenda.
They don't seem to  care this activcity costs the tax payer because no
one can make plans for government projects. Even the Military can't
work  well this way. They should fund the government for the year
and be done with it.

I hope the public  see's this for what it is. The GOP is trying to use
the fact the Democrats want to fix the Dreamer problem and
insurance for poor kids to get their way. The GOP cries crocodile
tears for the kids and the Dreamers. They should be ashamed,
but they never are.

furry greetings / Re: Doroud from Shams Mithra, Hello!
« Last post by Old Rabbit on Today at 09:21:18 am »
Welcome to furtopia

Hope you have a nice stay.

"Tosses you a chocolate chip cookie of welcome."

Old Rabbit :orbunny:
general furry discussion / Re: Non-performance uses for Fursuits?
« Last post by Jade Sinapu on January 18, 2018, 07:08:57 pm »
5)  On a similar note, wildlife researchers (not just rehabilitators) could use a convincing quad suit to infiltrate groups of animals to study them closer? (but may be dangerous!)

6)  You could, again, stuff a fursuit, place it in your bed, and put pillows over the head.  Then escape out of the house!  ;) :D

3)  A stuffed fursuit sitting at the dinner table could keep you company...    :-[ 
I immediately thought of the volleyball. Wilson! XD

4) Pretending to be the dog/cat/pet reindeer so visitors you don't want think you're not home.

you have a pet reindeer? neato!  ;)
foodie furs / Re: Home made bread. From traditional to no knead refrigerator.
« Last post by cause the rat on January 18, 2018, 03:30:15 pm »
Well still no answers so I did some research on my own. If your going to do an autolyse your going to have to have a bread recipe that doesn't call for milk. There is a way to get eggs in. You would have to hold a cup of flour back when making the autolyse. Blend the egg with that cup and fold it in when your folding in the yeast and salt. You could do the same with the liquid fats. Basically any fat or oil in the autolyse will keep it from working.

This next is another example of conflicting information. I asked if dough needed yeast to ferment. Could it be done without it. And got a strict no for an answer. Yet I find by the same people that an autolyse will ferment and flavor the dough. And they told me that without yeast the dough would become a breading ground of bad bacteria. Yet they're saying a 12 hour autolyse makes the bread taste better.  All this by doing a search on the same forum I belong to. The answers given depends on what author answers first. Then there appears to be a lot of up kissing. I think it's time I stopped relying on them. There are other examples of bad behavior. So I'll continue to comment on posts and stop asking questions.

An autolyse can be done for 20 to 60 minutes before you add the rest of stuff to the dough. Usually 30 minutes is all thats needed. I still plan on trying it with the 1 1/4 cut water and 1 cup milk my go to bread calls for. But I will have to knead the dough. The benefits will be I wont have to knead as much. The dough will come together faster. And that's good enough for me.
furry greetings / Re: Doroud from Shams Mithra, Hello!
« Last post by Varg the wanderer on January 18, 2018, 12:32:55 pm »
Welcome! I hope we don't disappoint you as you begin exploring the furry community. You also have an interesting backing to your name. I wouldn't have thought to do something like that.

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furries on furry / Re: Are you in the furry closet?
« Last post by cakith on January 18, 2018, 12:24:20 pm »
Yeah, no one in real life knows that I'm furry.
news forum / Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Last post by Old Rabbit on January 18, 2018, 10:29:04 am »
President Trump is playing politics with a government shutdown.
He is likely plans to jump in a the last moment claiming to
save the day when he created the problem to begin with. The
last few days he has been acting undecided saying the Democrats
won't work with the GOP to pass a budget extension that will
prevent a government shutdown.

In reality the GOP can't get enough of their members to pass a
bill to prevent the shutdown without help from the Democrats.
The GOP is claiming the Dmocrats won't work with them. This
is a lie because the GOP won't work with the Democrats to create
the bill  they want to pass. Then when the Democrats won't agree
support the GOP agenda they hope to mislead the public saying the
Democrats are at fault. When it's the GOP and Trump created the
problem, because they won't agree to compromise.

Compromise is how government is supposed to work. One party trying
to push it's agenda on everyone causes division and other problems.
The GOP knows their hard ball actions will be overturned in the future.
So instead of trying to grab all they can they should return to good
government by working with everyone. This way when power shifts
time won't be wasted putting everything back in order.

The investigation with Trump and his campaigns connecting
to Russia continues. This link should have the latest info.

foodie furs / Re: Home made bread. From traditional to no knead refrigerator.
« Last post by cause the rat on January 18, 2018, 10:04:34 am »
And just when you think you've learned it all. A no knead method that was invented by a French guy back in the 1970's.


You let the water in the flour make the gluten. Folding the dough once every half hour or so. Then you add the yeast, salt, any fats but they have to be in liquid form but not hot, eggs, sugar and the like. The best explanation I've found for it is,
They explain what it is and what it does. Nice pictures too. Talk about using it with kneading.
In this set of videos he shows the technique as it was designed.
The technique is shown in detail in six videos. The first five on his channel and then number seven.

This technique was designed to work with really sticky doughs. I'm still waiting on answers for using it on regular bread recipes. I'm guessing because there's less liquid it'll take longer to do.

There is a drawback to using this method. You can't use a poolish or biga. However it appears you can use a sourdough starter. But only after you let the flour and water do their thing together. Ya, I know what some of you are thinking, "But rat, if you only add a small amount of yeast you could let the entire batch ferment for say only four to six hours." Yes you could. But this has two drawbacks. First would be time. If the autolyse takes three hours you could be talking nine hours before proofing and baking. Secondly if your bread recipe calls for milk and or eggs. I have no problem with milk. However the proteins in eggs or the combo of milk and eggs could cause nasty things to happen when left sitting in a warm room for six hours. I'm not a pro, this is just my cautious guess.

Fro the sake of this thread i've been looking for things that can be done with almost every bread recipe out there. Autolyse may be a technique that you'll have to pick and choose when to use. it looks like a lot of fun. And kneading can get to be a chore. Especially if your doing three or more batches of bread. I've read over and over again, the best way to kill as stand mixer quickly is to use it to knead bread dough. Even the high power Kitchen Aid Pro I have is no match for the dough. That's why I stopped using it and went to hand kneading. It's a great machine. Works wonders for what it does. And yes it's designed to knead dough. But it will last years and years longer if I don't.
furry greetings / Doroud from Shams Mithra, Hello!
« Last post by Shams Mithra on January 18, 2018, 05:43:21 am »
Hello. My name is Shams Mithra, or rather, my fursona is Shams.
My real name is much longer.
I am very new to being a furry and hope I will one day have a fursuit to represent myself.
I am new. However, I am very eager (and nervous) to step into the Furry Community.
I hear it is a very welcoming community and hope that you will have me. I am sure you are all wonderful people.
Hopefully, I will soon get to know all of you.

My name, Shams Mithra, comes from the neighbouring faiths of Akkadia and Persia/Media.
Shams, also called Shamash, is the Akkadian god of the Sun, known for having the head of a lion.
Mithra, also called Miça, is the Persian/Median god of the Sun, known ALSO for having the head of a lion.
So, my fursona is Shams Mithra. : )
Hello everyone! :D
general non-furry discussion / Re: The "Good News" thread.
« Last post by Firelight on January 17, 2018, 11:00:34 pm »
I bought the first ever werepups kit from Asia Eriksen!
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