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Weird fastener sizes. 23mm? Really? Really?! You have to search to find a wrench for that, let alone a wrench that will actually reach where you need it too.

*grumbles something about channel locks and shade-tree maintenance*
I heard about Trumps space force branch of the military. We already
have military satellites in orbit.  What I fear is this might trigger a
race to weaponize near space. Russia and China, and others
could decide to put nukes on orbital platforms which could trigger a
war at the slightest mistake or misunderstanding. Leave it to  Trump
to add to our troubles with his over sized ego. Trump never seems to 
consider the future, just at the moment. 

Trump used the word infestation when talking about immigrants from
Latin America. A word that refers to  cockroaches and other vermin.
Granted there are criminals in Latin America, but very few of them
have kids in tow. Kids require too much attention for most criminals 
to fool with. These people are humans not insects or animals.

As I said yesterday Trump finally felt the pressure to stop this separation of
family's. Now he is saying he couldn't let this happen anymore. Just as if
he just heard about it. So he will want to be the hero. Even though he
started the whole mess in the first place. He changed back to more like it
was under Obama. Time will tell how it comes out.

I have a hunch Trump got chewed out by his wife. No counting  GOP
members scared of loosing power.

The Trump administration is still trying to hide this even
though they were trying to say it was because of the law.

You can find out more at the following links.

furries on furry / Re: your most hated thing about furry.
« Last post by Loc on Today at 10:20:07 am »
This topic has been locked due to gravedigging.
Please feel free to make a new thread to continue discussion :)
poetry corner / Walking in front of me
« Last post by Jade Sinapu on June 19, 2018, 07:53:28 pm »
I will try to keep this terse.
This poem has 2 lines of mildly suggestive verse.
It also has one weak swear word .
In other areas, things may have gotten blurred

I admit my style is probably rather unfashionable and simple, but it is what rolls off my flapping tongue.
I am not a professional writer.  I was just having fun.

Spoiler: show

Walking in Front of Me

These woods are the place I like to be
With you walking in front of me.
The sunlight burning bright in your fur.
Quietly, you continue to purr...
... As you walk in front of me.

The heat of sunlight soaking deep into your fine coat.
Vaporizing oils that float on the breeze you make.
I am surrounded by the odor of you, floating in your lake.
Hoping it will last, pray nothing will capsize my boat.

Your silky black tail, with its gentle curve so right.
I declare, is one of the prettiest things in sight!
The way it connects with a wonderful bump,
And whats beneath..oops...tripped over a stump!

Your paws land on the forest floor without a sound.
Panting with frustration, I continue to pound.

You are taking me to your private place only you know.
A place where you say the white rapids flow.
Between smoothed boulders worn by time.
A place, you assure, that is sublime.
The hunting is easy, the air clean.
I bet you live there, like a queen.
The trail is long, but the view is pretty.
As I walk behind this fluffy, cute, kitty.

Looking down, your claws retracted.  A relaxed feline.
Looking down, mine are blunt and fixed, typical canine.
How much farther is it there?  I whine.
Are we walking the straightest line?

"What's the hurry, do you have some place to be?
Why not walk this path with me?"
No, no.  No plans have I.
Harder, I guess I must try.

Do you have anything to eat once we get there?
Perhaps a crisp apple, juicy peach, or ripe pear?

Hey you dropped something, what is this?
"Hmm...must be the key to my cabin up ahead.
We can go there.. or keep walking instead..."
Cabin please, I sure need to take a piss

"Cant you use the outdoors?"
No, I'm a dog of the indoors.
What, you think I walk on all fours?

"I do sometimes, its only primal.
For survival, its often vital.
You can run faster,
To escape disaster.
You know like an animal?
Certainly that is something understandable?
Hey speaking of, I could show you how to live like a big cat.
Anyway, were almost there!  Let's cut the chitchat!"

Fitting the key to the lock, it easily turns.
inside I see, a light that burns
Candles all around, already lit
You had this planned, now I get-it!

A dinner table, a comfy bed.
This place is much more than a shed!
What a cozy place... just yourself?
Kind of reminds me of my old place in Guelph.

Well, well what's for dinner?
That long walk has made me thinner!
Meat all around if you please!
Canines are lactose intolerant, seriously, no cheese!

Set before me, plates of plenty!
Meat of all kinds, maybe twenty!
Does anything excite me more than good food?
Except, perhaps, hedgehogs stewed?

A gust of wind blows the windows ajar.
Now where did that come from? Bizarre!
The candles are out!  I can't see!
Oooof!  Dang!  I bumped my knee!

"The food has spilled all over the place!
How ever will I clean this space?"
Let's use our raspy tongues, you know what to do!
Just slurp it up, don't forget to chew!

"Okay, but what about us?  We are covered in vittles."
Well, that's easy!
Same as the floor; just don't hold the giggles!


general non-furry discussion / Re: What really "grinds your gears"?
« Last post by Kobuk on June 19, 2018, 04:06:42 pm »
Political Correctness

Just because something bothers another person and they think it should be removed, does NOT mean that I am offended by it and I think it should be removed.
news forum / Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Last post by Kobuk on June 19, 2018, 10:45:22 am »
In other news.........

Donald Trump wants a 6th U.S. military force: the Space Force.
Seriously?  :o Sounds like more of a "Space Farce" to me.  :D

Need to say it, but we don't need a 6th military force for the United States. We've got enough problems in the U.S. (and/or the world) right now that need taking care of without having to worry about how the heck we're going to try and come up with another military force. We've already got the U.S. Space Command which is part of the U.S. Air Force. They already watch and handle any U.S. military space activities, so there's no need for more "duplicity" by creating another military space organization.
Where the heck are we supposed to come up with the money and materials to create another military force anyway? Oh wait, that's right, by cutting back on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Education, and other programs and services that Americans need.  >:( Way to go, Trumptard! What the hell does Trump expect? That we're going to get invaded soon by "illegal extraterrestrial alien immigrants"? So he wants to create another military space force to protect our solar system's borders?  :D

news forum / Re: Trump the GOP and Democrats. A new path or more of the same.
« Last post by Old Rabbit on June 19, 2018, 10:23:31 am »
President Trump has likely grabbed a hornets nest by picking on
little kids. Yet he still continues to blame it on everyone but him self.
It's Trump who made the decision to seperate kids from their parents.
Even to send parents back to their country without their children.

I think if Trump is backed up to a wall and his people tell him he
has lost. He will changed his tune claiming he ihas to save the
children from the bad democrats. And his  supporters will

Trump doesn't want the media to take pictures, he doesn't
want the media to see anything. He wants to hide this even
from those who support him. He knows video's would bring his
plans down along with him and the GOP.

You can find out more at the following links.

traditional and digital artwork / Re: Holt5's Artwork
« Last post by Jade Sinapu on June 19, 2018, 07:52:13 am »
Holt5, I think you have a device that allows you to go to a real anthro world, and you are taking pictures!
furries on furry / Re: your most hated thing about furry.
« Last post by Jade Sinapu on June 19, 2018, 07:49:27 am »
One big issue I dislike about furry and try to change  is how  furries  deal with  the younger and older members  outside the demographic. We had  and incident  at anther fur group shunning  and insulting and elderly member. Then I feel general (not   specifically adult  like meting at a bar) furcons  should serve the whole community. I do not by banning under 18 reason about insurance but    lack  of social skill of  20 - 30 somthings  leaders  to deal with those outside the peer group. For  me a  a Christian is  an 18+ 21+ con is usually a red flag to stay away. My only  only experience  with  18+ multi genre  convention is people getting drunk and acting  immoral is they want to. The idea of  adult does not mean acting as a mature  adult.

If I was  running a con my policy is  leaders  will serve the  community, young and old  or get out and if you do not like kids ruining around then I can suggest stay home of find a bar.

I agree. Many furs when they get interviewed by certain media go about how furry is welcoming. But to who? Seems old furs like me seem to be ignored by the younger furs who don't talk to me and only seem to stick to themselves.

I, as a new furry who's already getting grey, realize that the older ones are the ones who make it possible for me to enjoy the fandom.  I personally would interact with anyone, if they wanted.  :)
traditional and digital artwork / Re: Holt5's Artwork
« Last post by Holt5 on June 19, 2018, 01:56:53 am »
Thanks, Kay - I appreciate the thoughtful input!  :)

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