Author Topic: Cloud computing  (Read 939 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Alsek

  • The Fluffy Destroyer of Tasty Fish
  • Species: White Wolf Pup
  • *****
  • Posts: 5234
Cloud computing
« on: October 05, 2011, 09:53:23 pm »
This video had me in tears.   :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmXJSeMaoTY


Personally this about sums up my personal opinion.  I was really happy to see someone as prominent as Larry Ellison (Oracle CEO,  for those of you who didn't know)

I was quite irked when i saw the overuse and complete fascination that people seem to have with the term. Even my VPS hosting provided now refers to the VPS as a,  "cloud server."

What are y'all's thoughts on,  "cloud computing?"   :3
« Last Edit: October 06, 2011, 05:10:44 pm by Alsek »

Offline Hoagiebot

  • Sr. Member
  • Species: Thinking Machines Corporation CM-5/1056
  • Analyzing MLP w/ 135-GFLOPS of raw computing power
  • ****
  • Male
  • Posts: 437
    • Project Destiny Studios
Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 06:03:02 am »
As much as I personally detest the business practices of Larry Ellison/Oracle (they made a lot of expensive Sun equipment that I own essentially useless), I have to agree with Mr. Ellison's sentiments in this video.  "Cloud Computing" is one of those buzzwords that has no real defined meaning, which means that every half-brained marketroid in the information technology industry has taken the term and is now running with it, applying it to nearly any network-based computing technology du jour that they need to promote and sell.  Because of that, you now need to break down what kind of "cloud computing" technology that a company is even shooting their mouths off about, because the term blankets so many things.  For example, is the word "cloud" being used to describe "Software as a Service (SaaS)" like what SAP offers?  Is "cloud" being used to describe "Platform as a Service (PaaS)" like Microsoft's Windows Azure?  Is "cloud" being used to describe "Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS)" like Amazon's EC2?  Or are they really being vague and just using the word "cloud" as a drop-in replacement for the word "Internet" or "web" so that when you are buying something through Amazon.com's website you are now "shopping in the cloud," or when you check your webmail account you are now "hosting your e-mail in the cloud."

What's even more annoying is that this whole idea that "cloud computing" is going to change everything isn't even new.  Does anyone here remember the bold prophesy that was made 12 or 13 years ago by Larry Ellison of Oracle himself about how the PC was going to be completely replaced and rendered obsolete by the NC ("Network Computer"), and how several companies, including Sun, IBM, Acorn, and others bought into that nonsense and lost big because of it?  Does anyone here remember the closely related "Internet Appliances" that came out around the same time that were supposed to bring the idea of the NC into the home?  Does anyone still have an Internet Appliance such as the Netpliance I-Opener, 3com Audrey, Virgin Webplayer, Compaq iPAQ (not the PDA or the desktop of the same name, but the Internet Appliance), or MSN Companion and use it to surf the web or check their e-mail?  Heck, does anyone here even remember the existence of those Internet Appliances?  They have become so obscure now that I, a vintage computer collector, have started collecting some of those ridiculously high-profile failures of technology as a sport!  While "cloud-based" stuff is here to stay this time around due to the fact that various Internet and networking-based technologies have caught up with the vision, I still get very annoyed by people who think that today's "cloud computing" is some revolutionary fantastic new thing instead of the result of the evolutionary progression of several long-existing technologies that have just had a new label applied to them.

As much as I wish that I could just ignore buzzwords like "cloud computing" because I know better, the sad reality is that I can't because the suits in a lot of companies just eat these words up.  As a result, often in IT if you want to improve your chances of getting hired you have to have assorted "cloud-based" technologies listed in your skill set, be prepared to answer interview questions about what "cloud" technologies you have worked with or how you would implement this or that in the cloud, and be able to spout the "cloud computing" B.S. with the best of them.  Another annoying buzzword these days is "HTML5."  HTML5 is a real (though unfinalized) specification, however when you hear most marketroids spout out about how HTML5 is going to change this and revolutionize that and cure all infectious diseases and solve world hunger etc. etc. they are rarely talking about HTML5.  At best, they are talking about HTML5 when used in addition with other related but separate web technologies, such as CSS3, JavaScript, SVG, jQuery, etc.  This is still misleading, because they are bundling up all of these separate web technologies under the magical blanket term of "HTML5," obfuscating what HTML5 really is.  At worst, I think that some of these marketroids are just making stuff up and calling it HTML5, just like they say now that this or that is "in the cloud" no matter what the heck it is.  HTML5 has become such an over-hyped fever-pitch technology that they even sell HTML5 T-Shirts now to promote it!  And since there are still 3-years and 81-days at this point before the HTML5 specification is made final, no web browser as of yet supports the entire specification completely, and what HTML5 *really* is is still subject to change!  *facepalm*  HTML5 may be the way of the future, but people are taking it up now as if it were some kind of new web religion when it isn't even finalized, matured, or even completely supported yet!  Talk about jumping the gun!

Do you see what you have done bringing up cloud computing in the forum, Alsek?  You have now gone and made me all upset!  Now I am going to have to curl up in a fetal position in my bed, throw my covers over my head, take deep breaths, and cry myself to sleep trying to pretend that there are no such things as over-hyped technology buzzwords and that that the big bad technology company marketing departments that create them don't really exist!   :D
« Last Edit: October 06, 2011, 06:06:53 am by Hoagiebot »

Offline Foxpup

  • Hero Member
  • Species: Cyborg Fox
  • *****
  • Male
  • Posts: 1182
Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2011, 08:21:07 am »
I second Hoagiebot's rant.
“Hmm... They have the Internet on computers now.” - Homer Simpson

“Art doesn't work without pain. Art exists for compensating pain.” - Till Lindemann

“There's a fine line between sayings that make sense.” - Too Much Coffee Man

Offline Alsek

  • The Fluffy Destroyer of Tasty Fish
  • Species: White Wolf Pup
  • *****
  • Posts: 5234
Re: Cloud computing
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 03:59:26 pm »
Do you see what you have done bringing up cloud computing in the forum, Alsek?  You have now gone and made me all upset!   :D

And you-sir,  have amused me to no end.  :)
« Last Edit: October 06, 2011, 05:10:19 pm by Alsek »