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Offline Mylo

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Firefox
« on: February 07, 2011, 03:33:09 pm »
The furry web browser!
I don't know...I just started using it...
The themes are called "personas"
It couldn't fit better!  :)

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Re: Firefox
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 03:41:50 pm »
But do you have a furry persona?  ;)
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 05:39:43 pm »
No, I just started using it.
Maybe I'll make one...

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Re: Firefox
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2011, 05:56:17 pm »
They should'v called them FIRsonas because of the first three letters in FIRefox. I personally don't use it because chrome imo is faster :)
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Re: Firefox
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 09:00:28 pm »
sweet! 
I am now using the second one

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Re: Firefox
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 09:47:25 pm »
I'm using a blotch one, don't remember the url though
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 01:50:43 am »
www.avantbrowser.com

I quit using failfox back in 05. never looked back.

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Re: Firefox
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 04:09:23 am »
Hmm I may have to look into this avant browser, Chrome is nice but my mate is paranoid and thinks it's sending google all my info.
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 09:55:32 pm »
www.avantbrowser.com

I quit using failfox back in 05. never looked back.
Well that’s not saying very much,
It sounds to me like you tried Firefox 1.0 for a few month and then gave up.

It’s the same as if I said I quit using Windows in 1986 and never looked back.
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Hmm I may have to look into this avant browser, Chrome is nice but my mate is paranoid and thinks it's sending google all my info.
I wouldn’t change browsers for that reason,
All browsers send your data to Google, that’s how all the internal features work, built in spell checkers for example,
as well as many other things including GPS locating / tracking, that is if your hardware supports GPS "features".

But if you want a different browser, Firefox is a good way to go,  Firefox and Chrome are about the same, as far as speed and security.
Chrome is a little faster with some webpage encodings, but Firefox averages out a little faster overall.

My experience is that you can do more with Firefox overall, but that’s just what I favor,
However, if your only reason for wanting a change is the reason you mentioned, then it’s probably best to stick with the browser that you’re familiar with.

And as for Avant, the browser uses the Trident engine, so avant is really nothing more than a fancy Internet Explorer.

Not to mention that Trident has always been the worst engine of the big three. (WebKit, Gecko, Trident)
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Anyways, getting back on track…

I’ve been using Firefox since the beginning, all the way back when the browser was called Phoenix, which became Firebird, which finally became Firefox.

The persona I’m currently using is The Wolf Pack,

And some of my other notable favorites are Arctic Foxes T - V, Wolf Spirit 2, Foxkeh Canoe, and Firefox Carbon.

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Re: Firefox
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2011, 10:15:30 pm »
I use firefox exclusively, and my "persona" os
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2011, 10:37:28 pm »
My experience is that you can do more with Firefox overall
Massive plugin library for the win!
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2011, 02:03:49 am »
Hmm I may have to look into this avant browser, Chrome is nice but my mate is paranoid and thinks it's sending google all my info.
I wouldn’t change browsers for that reason,
All browsers send your data to Google, that’s how all the internal features work, built in spell checkers for example,
as well as many other things including GPS locating / tracking, that is if your hardware supports GPS "features".
No they don't. Spellcheckers use a dictionary file stored on your hard drive. You really think your browser sends everything you type to Google for spellchecking? And geolocation is normally done using your IP address and some guesswork, not GPS hardware.

However, if your only reason for wanting a change is the reason you mentioned, then it’s probably best to stick with the browser that you’re familiar with.
If you're paranoid, a little work with a packet sniffer will tell you exactly what info your browser is sending, and to whom. As for what browser to use, I'd recommend Firefox with AdBlock Plus, BetterPrivacy, FoxyProxy, Google Analytics Opt-out, and HTTPS-Everywhere extensions. If you're paranoid.
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2011, 03:58:47 am »
No they don't. Spellcheckers use a dictionary file stored on your hard drive. You really think your browser sends everything you type to Google for spellchecking?
Some do and Some don’t, different browsers use different methods, and there are spell checkers and add-ons that do get their information from web sources like Google.

And geolocation is normally done using your IP address and some guesswork, not GPS hardware.
Geolocation uses the best available source, or whatever source the web page is scripted to use,
which can be an IP Address, a GPS cord, or GSM triangulation as well as several other methods.

All cell phones and most new laptops have GPS locator chips built in, for our “convenience” of course.

And if you really don’t believe me, take a look at your browsers internal configuration file,
it won't tell you what your computer can do, but it can tell you what your browser can do, should your computers hardware have the ability.

And then do some reading on the W3C Geolocation API, the HTML 5 API, and the HTML 5 JavaScript API,
and then you might just learn something.

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Re: Firefox
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2011, 11:25:29 pm »
No they don't. Spellcheckers use a dictionary file stored on your hard drive. You really think your browser sends everything you type to Google for spellchecking?
Some do and Some don’t, different browsers use different methods, and there are spell checkers and add-ons that do get their information from web sources like Google.
I know for a fact that Firefox doesn't, and I have no reason to believe that any other browser does. This sort of thing is a dead giveaway on a packet log, so any browser that did would not get away with it for long.

And geolocation is normally done using your IP address and some guesswork, not GPS hardware.
Geolocation uses the best available source, or whatever source the web page is scripted to use,
which can be an IP Address, a GPS cord, or GSM triangulation as well as several other methods.

All cell phones and most new laptops have GPS locator chips built in, for our “convenience” of course.
Actually, not all cell phones have GPS, and you don't even need to go to any special trouble to get one that doesn't. Also, I've never seen a single laptop that with a built-in GPS (although GPS dongles are readily available, if you actually need that capability), and again, it's not hard to find out if your computer has one, because in order for the browser to make use of the information, the OS has to detect and recognise the hardware. Of course, a laptop might have a GPS that the OS doesn't detect, but then the browser wouldn't be able to use it to send geolocation data. The device could send the data  itself if it had direct access to the NIC, but that won't escape the notice of a smart hacker with a packet sniffer. Then there are GPS devices that don't transmit data at all, and simply store it until it's collected by a TLA, but if you're worried about that, you've got bigger problems than what browser you're using.

And if you really don’t believe me, take a look at your browsers internal configuration file,
it won't tell you what your computer can do, but it can tell you what your browser can do, should your computers hardware have the ability.

And then do some reading on the W3C Geolocation API, the HTML 5 API, and the HTML 5 JavaScript API,
and then you might just learn something.

Yes, I know about the W3C Geolocation API, but I haven't seen a single site that actually uses it. Every site I've seen that does geolocation does it using your IP address and nothing else. Now put away your tinfoil hat; the newer ones are all made of aluminium foil anyway, to make them less effective. (Real tinfoil contains lead, but the government banned it long ago, ostensibly because it's poisonous. But now you know the real reason.)
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2011, 12:05:06 am »
Ah, the good old browser wars debate. I stay out of it for the most part. I've been a faithful user of I.E. ever since I've been online and never had any issues with it. Well, mostly. There was a website that gave it fits, so I tried Fire Fox and it worked fine then. Another I had used I.E. on at first, then they made a change and was "no longer supported" (Their claim, though it really did still work), so I tried FF on it too since I already had it installed. It DIDN'T work with FF, and the support guy said it's likely a conflict because of my prior I.E. usage on the site and suggested trying on Chrome.

Sorry, but I'm not going to install every browser known to man to accomodate a website's every little technical personality. So I'm just gonna stick with I.E. for the foreseable future until it does become a problem with the websites I visit most often. I don't mind that other people are die hard fans of other browsers and I'm sure they all have their pro's and con's. I do mind when their answer to every I.E. related question is to get *insert other browser name here*.

Though I looked through Avant's website, and I must say it does sound tempting.
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2011, 12:26:14 am »
I know for a fact that Firefox doesn't, and I have no reason to believe that any other browser does. This sort of thing is a dead giveaway on a packet log, so any browser that did would not get away with it for long.
You're right about Firefox, but only under it’s default setup, and whats to "get away with",
My language translator works this way and I'm glad that it does, and if my spell checker did I wouldn't be bothered by it ether.


Actually, not all cell phones have GPS, and you don't even need to go to any special trouble to get one that doesn't. Also, I've never seen a single laptop that with a built-in GPS (although GPS dongles are readily available, if you actually need that capability), and again, it's not hard to find out if your computer has one, because in order for the browser to make use of the information, the OS has to detect and recognise the hardware. Of course, a laptop might have a GPS that the OS doesn't detect, but then the browser wouldn't be able to use it to send geolocation data. The device could send the data  itself if it had direct access to the NIC, but that won't escape the notice of a smart hacker with a packet sniffer. Then there are GPS devices that don't transmit data at all, and simply store it until it's collected by a TLA, but if you're worried about that, you've got bigger problems than what browser you're using.
As for the GPS systems, they are built into the net-cards, and are not a separate piece of hardware,
And many new laptops come with cellular net-cards, which can be tracked through GSM.


Yes, I know about the W3C Geolocation API, but I haven't seen a single site that actually uses it. Every site I've seen that does geolocation does it using your IP address and nothing else. Now put away your tinfoil hat; the newer ones are all made of aluminium foil anyway, to make them less effective. (Real tinfoil contains lead, but the government banned it long ago, ostensibly because it's poisonous. But now you know the real reason.)
And I don’t know where your getting the idea that I’m paranoid, I honestly couldn’t care less, I was only adding to what others had said when you chimed in.

It seems like you are the one who is paranoid and worried, so much so, to the point that you need to argue with every little thing I say,

So unless you have a recognized, reliable, and trustworthy information source that's worth posting,
something other than your opinion / knowledge arguing against my opinion / knowledge, then please go bother someone else.
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2011, 06:29:01 am »
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2011, 07:55:19 pm »
I don't mind that other people are die hard fans of other browsers and I'm sure they all have their pro's and con's. I do mind when their answer to every I.E. related question is to get *insert other browser name here*.
Well, sure Internet Explorer has its pros and cons, but there's one con in particular that stands out: it doesn't properly support HTML 4! Even worse, it doesn't even fall back to HTML 3.2 when it encounters something it just doesn't understand. And to think the W3C is talking about HTML 5! Most other browsers made in this century do support HTML 4 correctly, so if you've got a site that doesn't seem to work quite right in Internet Explorer, it doesn't matter what other browser you use, as long as it's not IE.

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Re: Firefox
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2011, 10:44:03 pm »
I'm using Mozilla's snazzy Firefox Aurora, which their 'pre-beta' release channel.   ;)
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Re: Firefox
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2011, 01:00:45 am »